"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e51a897f23cd46c49768149f5c480671\u0022\u003EThursday, 17 March 2011\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ec1ec5ff60d44f5aab98ec038fb07ca8\u0022\u003EThursday, 17 March 2011\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000002\u0022\u003EMr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000004\u0022\u003EPrayers.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00226e4f3e2c40604741807b22fa617abb89\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002231f3ad4842064472b8e54335c85fe061\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226984d661-9f65-4ed6-b29c-3285b598582d\u0022 data-id=\u00229daf9c19ab84495896cd945ba805cc69\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226984d661-9f65-4ed6-b29c-3285b598582d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229daf9c19ab84495896cd945ba805cc69\u0022\u003EHon JOHN CARTER (Minister of Civil Defence)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Acting Leader of the House: Next week it is the Government\u2019s intention to complete the Committee stage and third reading of the Appropriations (2009/10 Financial Review) Bill, and make further progress on the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill. Wednesday is a members\u2019 day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u00227f9b8d8188eb41bdbc3d7ceea6c4c587\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227f9b8d8188eb41bdbc3d7ceea6c4c587\u0022\u003EHon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour\u2014Hutt South):\u003C/span\u003E I ask the acting Acting Leader of the House whether it is the Government\u2019s intention to take the third reading of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill on Thursday, and I ask him to give a guarantee that that will not be done under urgency.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226984d661-9f65-4ed6-b29c-3285b598582d\u0022 data-id=\u00220c3774a6dcaf4a1d962506488b9157ba\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226984d661-9f65-4ed6-b29c-3285b598582d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220c3774a6dcaf4a1d962506488b9157ba\u0022\u003EHon JOHN CARTER (Minister of Civil Defence)\u003C/span\u003E: It is the Government\u2019s intention to make progress on the third reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d4dba102e5844c70b51d6d2b28572ae7\u0022\u003EQuestions for Oral Answer\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022be174a3adb6d4fd6b49643e7876fa976\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00223f6578b085d64b28bf6be0bb32f3885e\u0022\u003EPrices\u2014Minister\u2019s Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002209a5b71a-ca7e-4e7c-9e09-f9e63f18aa12\u0022 data-id=\u00223806b5b243514a8daf43530890f05da8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002209a5b71a-ca7e-4e7c-9e09-f9e63f18aa12\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223806b5b243514a8daf43530890f05da8\u0022\u003EHon ANNETTE KING (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: When he said recently \u201Cwhere the Government does have some influence, we are working hard to keep prices low\u201D, which prices was he referring to?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022 data-id=\u0022be53cde13b724cc4aef3c5a75a13eaf1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022be53cde13b724cc4aef3c5a75a13eaf1\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E I was referring to specific examples, such as interest rates. We have worked hard to control Government spending, so that we do not put upward pressure on interest rates. Floating mortgage rates are about 5 percent below where they were at under the previous Government. With regard to the emissions trading scheme, we have put in place a system that halved the costs of the emissions trading scheme. In electricity, we have increased competition so that households do not face a 72 percent price rise, as they did up to 2008. We have worked hard to bring the out-of-control ACC scheme under control, so that levies do not have to keep increasing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002209a5b71a-ca7e-4e7c-9e09-f9e63f18aa12\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222f1ee8035e82493cb5f801cdf967ff80\u0022\u003EHon Annette King\u003C/span\u003E: If, as he claimed on Sunday, the Government is working hard to keep prices low, why did he allow Government-controlled prices such as car and motorbike registration, ACC levies, early childhood education fees, GST, and the cost of doctors\u2019 visits, to name but a few, to go up at a time when economic commentators are saying households could face a period of significant misery in New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a3f2501a3d7a40af91f9e5547daedc36\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: We have had to strike a balance between recognising that pressure on households on the one hand, and cleaning up the mess left by the previous Labour Government\u2014for instance, the car licensing system was tens of millions of dollars in deficit. We are doing our best to close that massive deficit in the car licensing system without passing on all the costs to licence holders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002209a5b71a-ca7e-4e7c-9e09-f9e63f18aa12\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222a72a57a50034bf685a8afffd12781f1\u0022\u003EHon Annette King\u003C/span\u003E: What action will the Government take to control petrol prices now that they have reached $2.15 a litre, which is something National demanded that the previous Government do when the price reached $2.03 a litre, and which is something that while in Opposition National thought obviously the Government could do something about?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224862c8ba215b478faa401a869d9e0b9b\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: Unlike the previous Labour Government, we do not claim to be able to control everything. Consumers and households are doing their best to deal with rising oil prices. As the member knows, the Government does not have too much influence over Colonel Gaddafi, but maybe the Labour Party does. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002209a5b71a-ca7e-4e7c-9e09-f9e63f18aa12\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002252184f4cc98e40ceb1af81e219f524bb\u0022\u003EHon Annette King\u003C/span\u003E: What action will the Government take to reduce the cost to New Zealand families of milk, which has gone up by 37c a 2 litre bottle, given that John Key said in 2008 that families had to ration milk to their children because of the price and that the then Labour Government should do something about it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c8fa56c89ee6494b8ceffcb5d3374569\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: As the member will know, New Zealand is a beneficiary of high commodity prices. More people want to pay us more for more of our product than ever before, and some of those prices are reflected in domestic prices.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cb8ce83f154d430380671b5c8a0d4ff6\u0022\u003EChris Tremain\u003C/span\u003E: What is the outlook for inflation, and how does this compare with past inflation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e8a429cd23ad49d2ba2a872383ff6b80\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: Of course, there has been a spike in inflation because of the increase in GST, but, if we look at Reserve Bank forecasts for this calendar year, we see it projects there will be inflation of 2.3 percent; in 2012, of 2.2 percent; and in 2013, of 2.5 percent. Over those 3 years, the rate in each year is about half the rate that inflation was at in 2008 when Labour left office, which is why no one believes the Labour members when they complain about rising prices.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002209a5b71a-ca7e-4e7c-9e09-f9e63f18aa12\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f6f2bbb39b6b4a57978ca0726178bba9\u0022\u003EHon Annette King\u003C/span\u003E: If New Zealanders are better off following the tax cuts and the wage increases, as he constantly claims, can he explain why people are feeling the impact of food, grocery, accommodation, insurance, and petrol rises at the fastest rate in almost 20 years, and does he believe that people are just making it up when they say they are facing a struggle at this time?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bc99d2b09a29457ba951794abecd8f5e\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: They feel those prices because they are out there every day doing their shopping and paying their bills. They have not all had significant wage increases, but they have had after-tax increases in their wages. The member seems to be going down the track of, I think it was, the Herald on Sunday, which tried to claim that inflation was at the same kind of rate it was at back in the mid-1980s when it was actually 17 or 18 percent. Current inflation is actually around 2 to 3 percent. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d94f232b3cc84478ac2c770480a8ae4f\u0022\u003EEarthquake, Christchurch\u2014Effect on Government Finances\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022 data-id=\u002230bf4e6989fb42fcb750f7d8a65bef3d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002230bf4e6989fb42fcb750f7d8a65bef3d\u0022\u003EDAVID BENNETT (National\u2014Hamilton East)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: What are some of the likely impacts on the Government\u2019s finances of the Christchurch earthquake?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022 data-id=\u002259f1470805c6413fa3e0c305f2a64ab9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002259f1470805c6413fa3e0c305f2a64ab9\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E First of all, as the weeks go by we are getting better information about the costs of the earthquake, but a couple of things are clear already. The first is that the earthquake is likely to delay slightly the New Zealand Government\u2019s return to Budget surplus, and, secondly, that meeting the Government\u2019s share of the immediate earthquake costs will require quite a substantial front-loading of Crown debt in the next year or two\u2014that is, to meet costs such as the wage support package, the rescue and recovery costs, and transitional housing. It means the Government will have to borrow more over the next couple of years. Therefore, it is important that we put in place a plan to get our debt back to acceptable levels.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bdb63be9f83a48adb5310eea8f54bd63\u0022\u003EDavid Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: What will be the impact on likely fiscal deficits and net Crown debt as the Government meets the immediate costs of the earthquake?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229f37fb1e739e48c88cef0dd85ab52631\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: When the Prime Minister delivered his Prime Minister\u2019s statement earlier in the year, he said that the Government intended to get back to Budget surplus in 2014-15. Now, with the effect of the earthquake and the need to borrow to fund those costs, the surplus is more likely to occur in 2015-16. It looks as though our deficit before gains and losses could be more than 8 percent of GDP, which amounts to around $16 billion. In December we announced a revised forecast of $11 billion, which is likely to increase. Net Crown debt is also likely to rise, from around the forecast 28 percent of GDP to around 30 percent in 2014.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e0192ed9-5715-4f6c-bd52-8db4f3466087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220aa7fbd65f484e478cc16da0beb5e79a\u0022\u003EHon David Cunliffe\u003C/span\u003E: What percentage of the additional expected $4.9 billion increase above the forecast in the operating deficit before gains and losses for this year is a result of the stalled economy, which New Zealand has been suffering from since as early as June 2010, well before the earthquake hit Canterbury?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222088545b7c374e80a2d2cddd516610fb\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: I could not give the member an estimate of the exact proportion, but a significant proportion of the increased deficit this year will be just the immediate cash costs of the earthquake. Some of it will be reduced tax revenue because of the stall in economic activity in Christchurch, and some of it\u2014who knows, maybe a quarter or a third\u2014could be because of a slower economy, which was happening regardless of the earthquake.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a78f1e5825844e3bb1e7497c192d128f\u0022\u003EDavid Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: What will be the basis of decisions about the Government paying its share of earthquake costs and ensuring that net Crown debt returns to pre-earthquake levels?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221488a8d33606405e8d2552cc6ee3e8a7\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: The Government will continue with its considered and consistent way of making decisions on economic issues. The Government has made the decision that because it is impractical to find short-term, large-scale savings in public spending, we will be borrowing to cover the costs of the earthquake. Any other changes we make in Government spending will be made on their merits rather than just because we need to fund the earthquake recovery.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002259c20b934f6045f0932f8b2fb9a66111\u0022\u003EHon John Boscawen\u003C/span\u003E: Does he think that revenue raised from mining schedule 4 land would mitigate the financial effects of the Christchurch earthquake; if so, what actions will the Government take to explore mining on schedule 4 land?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229b74cb3db28643f6b72fb992215c7da1\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: The Government has explored that option. There is no doubt, though, that the effort that has been put into getting petroleum and gas resources on the list for exploration companies could yield more revenue in the future, and that would help us repay the debt that we will incur in the next year or two on the Christchurch reconstruction. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d66981129ed5474995aa0a54de9feb6e\u0022\u003EHon John Boscawen\u003C/span\u003E: Does he think that the comments of the Minister of Energy and Resources on 26 August 2009 that no mining on schedule 4 land had potentially \u201Cdenied significant opportunity for economic benefit at both a national and regional level\u201D are more relevant now that the economy is struggling with the effects of the Christchurch earthquake?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262b6adf098f64864bfec83f8bff154b5\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: It is not the Government\u2019s intention to revisit the conclusion of the debate on schedule 4, but that does not mean we cannot have a strong and growing economy in the future. In fact, in the regions high commodity prices will begin spilling over into the domestic economy in the next 12 or 18 months, and, despite the fact that they cannot mine schedule 4 land, I think that part of the economy will start growing with some strength.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c4a648bfbe0c44bfbf3631d57d8986a1\u0022\u003EEconomic Development, Acting Minister\u2014Statements\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u0022d4d39de8729d4835afd7669f30db7a19\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d4d39de8729d4835afd7669f30db7a19\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Acting Minister for Economic Development: Does he stand by all his statements on economic development?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022 data-id=\u0022553752f2ca9b4d0185fa1309494046ee\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022553752f2ca9b4d0185fa1309494046ee\u0022\u003EHon DAVID CARTER (Acting Minister for Economic Development):\u003C/span\u003E I stand by all statements I have made as Acting Minister for Economic Development.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229bd1c2a93a3d4d3783dea2489ddcca8d\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: When he said in Parliament yesterday: \u201CWe want to invest in innovation\u2014Labour opposes that.\u201D, was he referring to the research and development tax credit that Labour introduced and National scrapped, or to National\u2019s other cuts to innovation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022021b228464b948399539cbefb868ba2c\u0022\u003EHon DAVID CARTER\u003C/span\u003E: I was referring particularly to the Primary Growth Partnership, which has been in action now for 18 months. We have seen $475 million worth of projects get under way. That sort of innovation spending is serious spending. It is not like the phoney schemes that Labour used to announce.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223f8e09432a034de9983ab13ef6074e32\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: When the Minister said yesterday: \u201CWe intend to improve skills\u2014Labour opposes that.\u201D, was he referring to the $55 million that his Government cut from industry training in the last Budget?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220dec17b3c34540f494b0ab576d95e1be\u0022\u003EHon DAVID CARTER\u003C/span\u003E: I was referring particularly to the work of my colleague the Hon Anne Tolley, who is trying to address the serious situation in New Zealand where a large number of schoolchildren leave school without the ability to adequately read and write. That is the legacy that that member and his Government left.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002229850f914c1042d6862bacab40e934ad\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: When the Minister said yesterday: \u201CWe need to improve trade opportunities.\u201D, was he referring to the need created by his Government\u2019s lack of an adequate economic plan, which has resulted in unemployment increasing by over 50,000 people since he took office, and the second recession\u2014National\u2019s recession?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dfe816e2851046de94aca06cf9ce26d9\u0022\u003EHon DAVID CARTER\u003C/span\u003E: No. Again, I was referring to the excellent work by my ministerial colleague the Hon Tim Groser and the work he is doing on trade negotiations with Malaysia, Hong Kong, the Gulf States, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, Korea, and Russia.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a7adc577002a4c7cbd3c14cccb1448d8\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Why, instead of ineffectually trying to blame others for the Government\u2019s failure, will he not take responsibility and admit what many business commentators are saying\u2014namely, that the second recession is National\u2019s responsibility and that its management of the economy is lacklustre and failing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229cc1954e95ff4734826ee275ddf9b4e4\u0022\u003EHon DAVID CARTER\u003C/span\u003E: I note that when Mr Parker raises the many business commentators, he never manages to mention them by name, so I suspect many of them are his left-wing, loony mates.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00220d1a170e46374d4fa8cdb5ff83f8d925\u0022\u003EEarthquake, Christchurch\u2014Accident Compensation Claims\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f99bcf9e-1ad4-4ed4-9a97-1cccb5b1e11a\u0022 data-id=\u002205431b8196284a6c94dd560eb140d629\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f99bcf9e-1ad4-4ed4-9a97-1cccb5b1e11a\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002205431b8196284a6c94dd560eb140d629\u0022\u003EDr JACKIE BLUE (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for ACC: How many claims has ACC received since the tragic earthquake on 22 February and what steps has the Government taken to facilitate prompt compensation for those seriously injured?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022 data-id=\u002241117d21de4143fda9933a5bec8654b1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002241117d21de4143fda9933a5bec8654b1\u0022\u003EHon Dr NICK SMITH (Minister for ACC):\u003C/span\u003E As at this morning, 5,907 claims had been received. These claims included over 3,000 soft tissue injuries, 1,010 lacerations, 437 fractures, 419 neck injuries, 183 head injuries, 47 burns, and six amputations. The lunchtime earthquake created uncertainty about whether injuries were workplace or non-work accidents. The difference determines whether the employer or the employee meets the cost of the first week\u2019s compensation. The Government has decided, through a special Order in Council for ACC, to pay this first week, which benefits both employees and employers and removes any debate at this difficult time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f99bcf9e-1ad4-4ed4-9a97-1cccb5b1e11a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002257ee9b09195047b18b285e44ba8419b4\u0022\u003EDr Jackie Blue\u003C/span\u003E: Has the Minister received any estimates of the costs of accident compensation claims from the 22 February earthquake; if so, are these costs likely to impact on current and future levies for the scheme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fc6c5d1582fa441caa0864c7a1610839\u0022\u003EHon Dr NICK SMITH\u003C/span\u003E: The 22 February earthquake will be the accident compensation scheme\u2019s largest-ever single event involving claims. Its latest estimate of the total number of claims is 7,500, and this has enabled an update on the estimated lifetime costs, at approximately $200 million. This estimated cost needs to be considered in the context of claim costs per year of about $3 billion. ACC has worked very hard over the past 2 years to improve its financial position, and I am hopeful that the cost of the earthquake claims will be able to be met without any levy increases.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226827212930c740eea01b593c4a334086\u0022\u003EChris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Will the cost of providing the first week of income compensation under the scheme, which he has announced, be funded through the ACC work account; if not, how will it be funded?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e0d26d18e86149668a8c582c52fdccd5\u0022\u003EHon Dr NICK SMITH\u003C/span\u003E: For those who were seriously injured, who will be eligible for that extra week of compensation, that funding will be taken from either the earners account or the work account, in exactly the same way that the future week\u2019s compensation will be. I note that a higher proportion of claims than the overall average for ACC are actually in the work account. That is not surprising, given that a large number of people would have been at work at the time of the earthquake, and given the number of people injured in the central business district of Christchurch, where there would have been a higher proportion of working people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f99bcf9e-1ad4-4ed4-9a97-1cccb5b1e11a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fdf31d0abd104af8b577199a1e683575\u0022\u003EDr Jackie Blue\u003C/span\u003E: Are foreign nationals who were injured in the 22 February earthquake and the families of the deceased eligible for support from accident compensation, and what endeavours have been made to ensure that they are well informed of their entitlements under the scheme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225162b19526b6445bae6b79b8342bbae7\u0022\u003EHon Dr NICK SMITH\u003C/span\u003E: Yes. At the core of our unique no-fault, 24/7 scheme is automatic entitlements for everyone, including overseas visitors, as the trade-off for the loss of the right to sue. Foreign nationals who have been injured are eligible for emergency care, treatment, and rehabilitation in New Zealand and for lump-sum compensation for significant injuries. Income compensation is also available if the foreign nationals were working and paying tax and ACC levies in New Zealand. Families of the bereaved are eligible for a funeral grant. Dependants of the deceased may also be eligible for a survivor\u2019s grant and income compensation if the deceased was working and paying taxes and ACC levies in New Zealand. The accident compensation scheme does not differentiate based on which country a foreign national comes from, nor should it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022eb4dede2d2504657926d72f2ee645ba6\u0022\u003EEarthquake, Christchurch\u2014Entry into Central Business District Red Zone\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022 data-id=\u00227ef234e5fd774c3889d70a114080a69c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227ef234e5fd774c3889d70a114080a69c\u0022\u003EHon MARYAN STREET (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Civil Defence: What is the basis for according priority to entry of the red zone in the Christchurch central business district?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226984d661-9f65-4ed6-b29c-3285b598582d\u0022 data-id=\u00225e9f3cc8ddce413f88dc3a19480e09ed\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226984d661-9f65-4ed6-b29c-3285b598582d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225e9f3cc8ddce413f88dc3a19480e09ed\u0022\u003EHon JOHN CARTER (Minister of Civil Defence):\u003C/span\u003E The priority that the national controller accords is safety first, and needs second.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022189f8d8a58f64e7bbaa39b5fbed88d8f\u0022\u003EHon Maryan Street\u003C/span\u003E: How many business owners and residents are still unable to access their offices and homes in the red zone?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226984d661-9f65-4ed6-b29c-3285b598582d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f068653dc6454df6b835f5cb0c14eb86\u0022\u003EHon JOHN CARTER\u003C/span\u003E: I do not have that information to hand. The member can put the question in writing if she wishes to find out that information.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d841c4a2448f4dbfbfa4ecee113ae31e\u0022\u003EHon Maryan Street\u003C/span\u003E: How many business owners could have been given access to equipment and records that are vital to restarting their businesses, if time and resources had not been diverted to escorting the Prime Minister through the red zone on repeated occasions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226984d661-9f65-4ed6-b29c-3285b598582d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002264a72722fad249f8a471c5af4c720898\u0022\u003EHon JOHN CARTER\u003C/span\u003E: That is such a silly question that I am not sure how to answer it, other than to say the controller gives priority to the appropriate people to enter the red zone when necessary.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a6f1378d20914eebacbe5ce4349c196e\u0022\u003EHon Maryan Street\u003C/span\u003E: Then how does the Government explain its priorities to the people of Christchurch and the business owners of Christchurch, when repeated access for the Prime Minister appears to be taking precedence over access for business owners and central business district residents?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226984d661-9f65-4ed6-b29c-3285b598582d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002264bc3a1a2a6e410a8b99c27e252f3589\u0022\u003EHon JOHN CARTER\u003C/span\u003E: The controller is very aware of the needs of all the business people and business owners and is doing an outstanding job, as far as I am concerned.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022829ccbba375f45598f7a96b2a2ef02af\u0022\u003EEarthquake, Christchurch\u2014Government Support for Non-governmental Organisations\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022 data-id=\u0022f56ac682eb5249f19384445a47fa7886\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f56ac682eb5249f19384445a47fa7886\u0022\u003ENIKKI KAYE (National\u2014Auckland Central)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Social Development and Employment: What support is the Government giving to non-governmental organisations in Christchurch affected by the earthquake?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022 data-id=\u0022460ef0d26950417fb35428c053a9ae5f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022460ef0d26950417fb35428c053a9ae5f\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development and Employment):\u003C/span\u003E A lot of hard work has gone in very quickly. Funding coordination and facilities have been provided. On the Friday directly after the earthquake the Prime Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister, and I had a conference call with 17 major non-governmental organisations to work through what support is needed and how we can help. To help we have also hired the Christchurch netball clubrooms at Hagley Park for non-governmental organisations to use as needed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a744a9a7-a2e8-401b-abfb-aec22a3818c8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d596796231f546d4acfd6327dd979bb2\u0022\u003EKatrina Shanks\u003C/span\u003E: What other Government support has been available in Christchurch?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002283e74bf4b432418981236d5ec10aa179\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: We have used the Community Response Fund underspend to ensure continuity of payment for those non-governmental organisations that need it; we did that really quickly. A key focus has also been trauma counselling. We have 262 counsellors on the ground and others around the country. We will also have a number of counsellors and welfare volunteers at the memorial service tomorrow\u2014350 in total. And, of course, the Student Volunteer Army has been out in great force. We were able to provide them with $20,000 worth of funding. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002209a5b71a-ca7e-4e7c-9e09-f9e63f18aa12\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226a41f8cc43c34845a47eb40882ada4f5\u0022\u003EHon Annette King\u003C/span\u003E: Will she oppose the recommendation from the Hon Tariana Turia to cut funding for Te Rito Family Violence Prevention Strategy and from the Child Advocacy Group\u2019s budget, in light of the report from the Minister of Women\u2019s Affairs of increased family violence after the earthquake?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022630ca505b6a54dbe9bdf57fc8674b0cb\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: Budget bids are yet to be assessed by Cabinet. They will be made in due course.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e35dfabfbb4c43a6bb0707e4960b715b\u0022\u003EEarthquake, Christchurch\u2014Rugby World Cup Matches\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u0022acec7dee358946b8b52a44a912dc2eb1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022acec7dee358946b8b52a44a912dc2eb1\u0022\u003EHon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour\u2014Hutt South)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: What role did he or his department play in the decision to shift the Rugby World Cup quarter-finals from AMI Stadium to Eden Park?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022 data-id=\u002299f42f81e4d8458588c027ff34137f3f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002299f42f81e4d8458588c027ff34137f3f\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY (Minister for the Rugby World Cup)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Prime Minister: Under the terms of the host union agreement, all decisions relating to locations and venues for Rugby World Cup games are the province of Rugby World Cup Ltd, a subsidiary of the International Rugby Board. With regard to the decision to move all Rugby World Cup games from Christchurch, the International Rugby Board, through Rugby World Cup Ltd, publicly signalled its wish to consult other stakeholders, including the Government. This consultation occurred through the Minister for the Rugby World Cup, who discussed these matters with the Prime Minister. With regard to the decision to select Eden Park as the alternative quarter-finals venue, the Prime Minister understands that this decision was made by Rugby World Cup Ltd on the recommendation of Rugby New Zealand 2011, on the basis of considerations outlined by Mr Martin Snedden yesterday. The Government was informed, but not consulted, in relation to that decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a0e0ec7386da437ba3a109628a4e0750\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Did the Prime Minister\u2019s office receive a report on or before 7 March that made it clear that there would not be sufficient accommodation in Christchurch for the quarter-finals?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ab61e1c160c34eebac9e286de1797fdd\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY\u003C/span\u003E: I would need to check on which reports were received on which dates. But I can say that reports were received continuously in relation to accommodation from two different sources: firstly, Ministry of Economic Development officials were asked to assess the situation and report to the Government from time to time; and, secondly, Mr Snedden, as the chief executive of Rugby New Zealand 2011, made his own assessment, which was reported to the Government from time to time. To be more precise, I would need to check those reports. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002227d3341313914f50a4061b097d3c8fc5\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: When did the Prime Minister become aware that an in principle or provisional decision had been made to shift the quarter-finals to Auckland before Rugby World Cup officials began their trip to New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eb73377ba0104b2a80dc23f6ab5f200f\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY\u003C/span\u003E: The Prime Minister was not aware that any decision was made, as asserted by that member. The Prime Minister was aware that officials from the International Rugby Board were coming to New Zealand for the purpose of meeting the other stakeholders, formally consulting, and then making a formal decision in relation to the games scheduled to be played in Christchurch.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222e3d91b0a53c4c409f1f9bf2c92619b3\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Why did the Prime Minister, as recently as yesterday morning, hold out hope to the people of Christchurch that the quarter-finals would be held there, when an informal decision, as the Minister has just replied, had been made that they would not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c61eaa8fe46f488589aa20fd3cf0b688\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY\u003C/span\u003E: The Prime Minister was acting on the advice of the Minister for the Rugby World Cup. The Minister for the Rugby World Cup was told on Monday of this week that the board of Vbase, the Christchurch City Council - owned company that administers AMI Stadium, was receiving a briefing from the engineers who had done their scoping work over the previous days. That meeting, I repeat, occurred on the afternoon of Monday this week. On Tuesday of this week the Minister for the Rugby World Cup went to Christchurch to meet Vbase, to receive details of that report and to enter into discussions, and on the following day\u2014yesterday\u2014the parties all met, including the visiting International Rugby Board executives, to make the final decisions. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b309071f5e254005ac03f9c585267cf6\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Why was the Prime Minister not involved in the announcement of the decision to shift the quarter-finals from Christchurch to Auckland?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229af4d3bdbb4b48b289a02724eba0de5e\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY\u003C/span\u003E: The Prime Minister has enormous confidence in his Minister for the Rugby World Cup. He was aware that that Minister was keeping himself closely informed of developments in Christchurch, and was visiting Christchurch on Tuesday. The Prime Minister would not have been aware in time of the meetings taking place yesterday to shift his timetable in order to be there, if he had wanted to. But his attendance might well have been taken by his Minister for the Rugby World Cup as an indication of a lack of confidence\u2014which would have been disappointing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228174c476237841a7a6ae1f43ad37f765\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Who, if anyone, advised him that attending to matters in his room was a higher priority than attending Parliament while questions on this matter were being dealt with yesterday?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226135af5da41c479eb796816742206393\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY\u003C/span\u003E: I think that at the heart of the member\u2019s line of questioning is the suggestion that somehow the decisions should have been made sooner and announced sooner. I want to repeat what I have said publicly. The people of Christchurch, who take great pride in their rugby prowess, have suffered a significant tragedy. The decision to take away from Christchurch all of the Rugby World Cup games was made most reluctantly by all of the parties who were consulted by the International Rugby Board. For the member to suggest that somehow that decision, which was indeed hurtful, should have been made without all of the evidence being assembled and properly considered by those parties is, frankly, an insult to the people of Christchurch.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229043d941e0b44ad9a90d8064e4134747\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. That was a very long answer to a question that was not asked. It was a very clear question as to whether the Prime Minister was advised not to attend Parliament yesterday and to stay in his office. That question was not answered.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002218bd2468274445cc970570ff694084a1\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: If the Minister wishes to answer it further, I will sit down in a moment. But let me point out that it is against the Standing Orders to make any reference to the absence of a member from this House. I did not rule the question out of order, because I wanted the Minister to have the opportunity to handle it in the way that he saw fit. I do accept that he did not answer the particularity of the question, but the question is a pretty marginal one, anyhow. If the Minister has anything further that he wishes to add to it, I do not want to prevent him from doing that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221f12c686ad1247be8ce9a5e5fbd0114f\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I invite you to review the tape. The question was very carefully drafted. It gave no indication of whether the Prime Minister accepted that advice, if it was received.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002287c15653fb25401fab43c0a224c15fa6\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That is a very fine line that the member points out. The implication of the question was that the Prime Minister was not present in the House. But I do accept the point the member makes that the question did specifically ask who had advised the Prime Minister\u2014I cannot remember the exact wording. If the Minister could deal with the actual particularity of the question, that would be helpful.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228d5c1ee3f9684e2a93d413f86176744a\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY\u003C/span\u003E: The Prime Minister is perfectly capable of making decisions about his own diary and timetable without advice. Right at this minute the Prime Minister is extremely busy attending to important matters of State that are the result of some very tragic events that have occurred in New Zealand in recent times. That causes the Prime Minister to think very carefully about the allocation of his valuable time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f9c55ec2ebe84e7989759d837423395c\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Did he personally deal with all the paperwork received in his office on this issue, or did he treat it, as he claimed to have done with the BMW issue, as a matter for his chief of staff to take responsibility for?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a42e501f48904f718808fb1d3faf43a6\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY\u003C/span\u003E: The Prime Minister, as I indicated in my primary answer, has taken considerable advice from his Minister for the Rugby World Cup on this matter. That Minister has been closely engaged in dealing with the parties over recent weeks, and, as appropriate, has seen fit to inform the Prime Minister of developments as matters have proceeded.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002209a5b71a-ca7e-4e7c-9e09-f9e63f18aa12\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022801c6b759fa04598a5da172a5c9ca564\u0022\u003EHon Annette King\u003C/span\u003E: Can the Prime Minister explain why the Hon Steven Joyce, who answered questions on this issue in the House yesterday after the announcement was made, said on radio yesterday morning that no decision would be made for 2 days?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e7c7f412fdc64b498da6e081f2504cc6\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY\u003C/span\u003E: I am not familiar with the particular quotation that the member refers to, but I can say the Minister of Transport was answering questions yesterday, as I understand it, on behalf of the Minister for the Rugby World Cup, who was, I can confirm, consulting relevant parties in Christchurch.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224a82409c07f8499b97776d1b333f821d\u0022\u003ECorrections System\u2014Private Sector Investment\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a25943b-cb3b-49c3-bd10-74316fae17f1\u0022 data-id=\u0022d40a0d3d9aad4c0b8cdefff2b5116ca6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a25943b-cb3b-49c3-bd10-74316fae17f1\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d40a0d3d9aad4c0b8cdefff2b5116ca6\u0022\u003EJACQUI DEAN (National\u2014Waitaki)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Corrections: What progress has been made toward the Government\u2019s commitment to encourage private sector investment in the New Zealand corrections system?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022 data-id=\u0022fbb7e513c90d4b3daaca8b3ee4404080\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fbb7e513c90d4b3daaca8b3ee4404080\u0022\u003EHon JUDITH COLLINS (Minister of Corrections):\u003C/span\u003E I am very pleased to report that three private sector consortia have been invited to tender for the provision of a new men\u2019s prison at Wiri through a public-private partnership. The new facility will ensure that there are enough beds to cope with the forecast growth in prisoner numbers and the need to replace ageing prisons. The three consortia are led by experienced international prison management companies and each one includes a major New Zealand construction partner. A number of other New Zealand firms are members of, and advisers to, the consortia. It is expected that a final contract with the successful consortium will be in place by July 2012.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a25943b-cb3b-49c3-bd10-74316fae17f1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e00f9c6bf1dc4a7db862afd892b7ab02\u0022\u003EJacqui Dean\u003C/span\u003E: What benefits will the new prison bring to the local community and to the wider region?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cbf1f09860c449ae93f7bbef10f6e892\u0022\u003EHon JUDITH COLLINS\u003C/span\u003E: The 960-bed prison is a major project for the Auckland region and will bring significant economic benefits to the local community. It is expected that the development will inject approximately $1.2 billion into the region\u2019s economy over the next 30 years. The construction and ongoing operation of the prison is expected to sustain 1,900 jobs and inject approximately $100 million in wages and salaries into the construction sector.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224a684035592b4461be4388c5c6117a4f\u0022\u003EEarthquake, Canterbury\u2014Trade Skills Training Policy\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022 data-id=\u00229eb7723a17114d1c9297d71f47175a95\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229eb7723a17114d1c9297d71f47175a95\u0022\u003EHon DARREN HUGHES (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Tertiary Education: What specific policy changes has the Government made to increase the number of apprenticeships and other building skills training programmes since the September Canterbury earthquake?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022 data-id=\u002200be06ec7e824e0e85be527068f496d5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002200be06ec7e824e0e85be527068f496d5\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development and Employment)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Tertiary Education: Following the September earthquake the Government first ensured that there were sufficient funded places to meet immediate demand for trades training. Government agencies commenced work with the Canterbury Employers\u2019 Chamber of Commerce to develop skills requirements for the rebuild. Following the obviously much more damaging February earthquake the Tertiary Education Commission and other agencies, both Government and non-Government, are revising workforce planning and are in the process of mapping available provision and capacity from tertiary education institutions, private training establishments, and industry training organisations. We will see a move from other disciplines into trades that will now be in higher demand and we will increase places for trades training as required.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022289e50ccf024423dbcc421c4c613f615\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: Does that mean that he has taken papers to Cabinet specifically suggesting an increase in the number of apprenticeships and other building skills training programmes since the September earthquake?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002227adc84972a4498cb23fa1de60e1c8b5\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: No. As far as I am aware there is still capacity there. In fact, the reason that the Minister is not here is that he is at Christchurch Polytechnic Institute of Technology today, where they are already saying there is capacity for trades training and they could take people as of today. They ask people to get in touch with them about that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022caeb86d1d7bb48d3aae5402808190b4b\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: Does the increase in demand for tradespeople in Christchurch following the two devastating earthquakes, which the Minister referred to, mean that the Government will restore the $55 million it cut from industry training last year, or does it still believe that funding for training will be underutilised?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f051ef483faa43adab485d3bf020edc3\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: It is important that we go through this step by step. At the moment a consortium of businesses in Christchurch is getting together to analyse what skills will be needed. I know that the Minister has also been talking to the Minister for Social Development and Employment, and through Vote Employment they have been doing a skills analysis of what will be needed. As those analyses are done\u2014without getting ahead of ourselves as to what the need will be\u2014there should be a true assessment of that need.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226084406b6b1a45d1848c96ad1c4f3e51\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: When will the House know whether there will be an increase in the numbers of actual apprenticeships and of people involved in other building skills training programmes, given that the Building and Construction Industry Training Organisation was saying before the two Christchurch earthquakes that demand for building and construction workers was likely to increase dramatically if the country came out of recession?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002258e62b6f089a4b9bb7eb8fbbc894a86f\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: No one is under any illusion that there will not be a demand for those skills; there will obviously be a demand for them. We are analysing the capacity and what will be needed. We are doing that through a step-by-step planning process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022af8318cd42b241a695e7095837fb3845\u0022\u003EDairy Industry\u2014Dairy Wholesale and Retail Milk Market\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022eaaad191-62cf-43e8-a772-63a71dbf4d4a\u0022 data-id=\u0022d575b2a4deb147c1a840e49633d58f14\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaaad191-62cf-43e8-a772-63a71dbf4d4a\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d575b2a4deb147c1a840e49633d58f14\u0022\u003ESUE KEDGLEY (Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Commerce: Will he use his powers under Part 4 of the Commerce Act 1986 to call for an investigation into the dairy wholesale and retail milk market, following the release of the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry\u2019s review of the domestic milk market in New Zealand; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022 data-id=\u00229e458dc2c64b4a1bb582e85a6c8657d6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229e458dc2c64b4a1bb582e85a6c8657d6\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH (Deputy Prime Minister)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister of Commerce: The Commerce Commission can, of course, on its own initiative undertake an inquiry under Part 4, or an enforcement investigation if it has concerns. In respect of the Minister\u2019s powers to initiate an inquiry, that capacity under Part 4 of the Commerce Act is related to concerns about monopolies. There would need to be a pretty tough test applied to make an inquiry justified.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaaad191-62cf-43e8-a772-63a71dbf4d4a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002286df85d8660d4cb0b6f5f2a73052922c\u0022\u003ESue Kedgley\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree that competition in New Zealand\u2019s dairy wholesale market is limited by the fact that there are just two major players, Fonterra and Goodman Fielder, and that Goodman Fielder is required to purchase all its milk from its competitor, Fonterra?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a6fa2ecc52194ca4bd7d68fc60774d55\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: The member will be aware of the history of the structure of our domestic milk market. Going back to the formation of Fonterra in the early 2000s, there was agreement at the time to limit Fonterra\u2019s capacity to be a domestic monopoly. Fonterra was required to sell some assets at the time, and for most of the last 10 years I think we have all been generally happy that there has been a sufficiently competitive domestic milk market. But clearly Fonterra has an interest in ensuring that the domestic milk market does not undermine its export strength.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaaad191-62cf-43e8-a772-63a71dbf4d4a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dbca04605b0c4eb6a41da4a1e9598514\u0022\u003ESue Kedgley\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree that a company that controls around 95 percent of the market for dairy products has a virtual monopoly on the market and therefore has no incentive to minimise prices; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002209d3f064f32246d487531cc32fc498dc\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: I am not sure whether it controls 95 percent of the domestic market. It certainly controls a very significant proportion of the export market. There have been ongoing discussions in the context of dairy regulation between the Government and Fonterra about issues such as the transparency of milk pricing. I think we are all aware that New Zealand consumers must be protected from the potential for dominance of the market by Fonterra, and I believe up until now that both the previous Government and the current Government have acted to protect consumers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaaad191-62cf-43e8-a772-63a71dbf4d4a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002296c2ffcca0094c89806284cb82ddcd9f\u0022\u003ESue Kedgley\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree that the fact that we have a virtual milk monopoly selling to a supermarket duopoly may be contributing to the high price of milk and requires further investigation; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022184a35bc353a48618369fe6bd4171892\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: The arrangements around Fonterra certainly need to be kept under scrutiny continuously because there is always the potential that such a large company could influence the domestic market. However, there is not a lot of evidence that they have been behaving in a monopolistic manner. The market seems to have worked reasonably well over the last 10 years but I think it is natural that when prices rise, consumers are asking the question and we need to be able to demonstrate to them that they are protected.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaaad191-62cf-43e8-a772-63a71dbf4d4a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022788a5def82da4ac39a3a4a269a762d96\u0022\u003ESue Kedgley\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree that in a concentrated market dominated by a very small number of big players there needs to be scrutiny of how retail prices are set, so that consumers can be confident that the prices they are paying are fair?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022976ea998518e451bb0ca559a95678809\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002248dd9a19689d42a9a4f04a4ac8277653\u0022\u003ERahui Katene\u003C/span\u003E: Is he aware of the advice from the company Miraka Ltd, the majority of which is M\u0101ori-owned, that it saw the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry and the Commerce Commission as playing a kaitiaki role in terms of ensuring fairness within the system, and what assurance can he give the House that fairness for consumers will be prioritised to protect New Zealanders from suffering further price increases on dairy products such as milk, cheese, and butter, which have already increased in price by 19.7 percent on average over the past 3 years?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b1613f12347b423d82a88b866a7d4e78\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: Miraka, as do others, would expect the Commerce Commission and the Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry to be guardians of the consumer interest, and in this circumstance the Commerce Commission has the power to initiate an inquiry if it thinks there are grounds for doing so. I would say that an increase in prices of itself is not evidence of monopolistic behaviour. In this case it is plausible at least to believe that the sharp increase in export prices for dairy products is the main reason for the increase in the domestic milk price. If there is significant evidence that the price is being manipulated, then the Commerce Commission has the ability to inquire into that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaaad191-62cf-43e8-a772-63a71dbf4d4a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226ad6a2f798f045f2b169f502af2a122e\u0022\u003ESue Kedgley\u003C/span\u003E: Given growing consumer concern about the high price of milk, does he agree that an investigation is needed to see whether there is any evidence that high milk prices are a result of either insufficient competition in the sector or a dominant player abusing its market position and passing excessive margins and costs on to New Zealand consumers?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c1d27d6e07a64092bcd7101e906d22ac\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: As I have said, the Commerce Commission has the power to initiate an inquiry if it thinks there are grounds for it. A Minister can potentially initiate an inquiry. In both cases an increase in prices is not evidence in itself of market manipulation. But if there was significant evidence, then either the Minister or the Commerce Commission, I am sure, would consider it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaaad191-62cf-43e8-a772-63a71dbf4d4a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225721c8137b054b3ba68ae2d7767ca52d\u0022\u003ESue Kedgley\u003C/span\u003E: Has he seen claims by farmers that they receive less than 30 percent of the price of the milk; and does he not think, therefore, that there ought to be a Commerce Commission investigation into what makes up the remaining 70 percent of the retail price?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002226a75fcaf8014dd3ab3da22e764c3e72\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: It is a time-honoured tradition among farmers to complain about the small proportion of the total price that they receive, and it has been going on for as long as I can remember. I do not expect that it will ever change, regardless of the market prices. But, again, I do not think that that in itself is evidence that the market is being manipulated, but we agree that we need to be very vigilant when there is such a major company with a large market share. If there is evidence that a company is manipulating the prices against the interest of consumers, then the Commerce Commission has the capacity to look into that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00223efe3ab1ee0f4e7c8a80aef233d8ae10\u0022\u003EWomen\u2019s Affairs, Ministry\u2014Minister\u2019s Support for Independence\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223facbb72-b3b0-464b-b24d-e6de0616f323\u0022 data-id=\u00229041e2b5d8de47e2b4655c4542a0f35c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223facbb72-b3b0-464b-b24d-e6de0616f323\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229041e2b5d8de47e2b4655c4542a0f35c\u0022\u003ECAROL BEAUMONT (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Women\u2019s Affairs: Does she support the retention of the stand-alone and independent Ministry of Women\u2019s Affairs?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022 data-id=\u002236ef4a0485144c5d803c7fa9faea8f26\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002236ef4a0485144c5d803c7fa9faea8f26\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Social Development and Employment)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister of Women\u2019s Affairs: I support the Ministry of Women\u2019s Affairs. However, the Government has made it clear that it is focused on achieving greater value and excellence out of public services, so all Government agencies will continue to be under scrutiny. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223facbb72-b3b0-464b-b24d-e6de0616f323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002295c3359b5941413998e0f3d0b405809c\u0022\u003ECarol Beaumont\u003C/span\u003E: Why did she fail to rule out the merger of the ministry with another department, and state on Te Karere that she was not concerned about the ministry, because the main aim of the National Government is that women manage their own initiatives and the Government is there to support?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ee3a2fd33108457ebb1777ca94315142\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: I certainly stand by that statement. I also refer to the Prime Minister\u2019s statement, where he said: \u201Cthis Government is building better outcomes from public services by being clear about New Zealanders\u2019 priorities, by minimizing waste, scaling up what works, getting rid of what doesn\u2019t \u2026\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223facbb72-b3b0-464b-b24d-e6de0616f323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022767cb9aeda234c2aa7c1a3e164c2859b\u0022\u003ECarol Beaumont\u003C/span\u003E: What advice has the Minister sought from her ministry about jobs and training for women in Christchurch?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fbbfc9f5b0dd43b0863759545052defb\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: We are certainly looking at what the needs of women there are. The Minister has spoken to the Minister for Social Development and Employment, particularly about work for those who are stuck at home and are having problems with childcare and things as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223facbb72-b3b0-464b-b24d-e6de0616f323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002264c99ca4a04f4406bea107d6d96b293c\u0022\u003ECarol Beaumont\u003C/span\u003E: Does she see the rebuild that is required in Christchurch as an opportunity to make significant progress on the ministry\u2019s goal of getting more women into traditional trades; if so, what action is she taking to ensure this happens?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022954baa3c9f944883a4fc41a80e10dbe0\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: A woman can handle a hammer just as a well as a man and there is certainly room for them in jobs in Christchurch.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d97d16779d5d4fa1a39147b671130b30\u0022\u003EGreenhouse Gas Emissions, Agricultural Sector\u2014Establishment of Fellowship Programme\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ae94eea7-ba5f-4303-bf71-49e708bc9888\u0022 data-id=\u00228c8d6a0dd97f44bf94b3b69dd7cbf792\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ae94eea7-ba5f-4303-bf71-49e708bc9888\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228c8d6a0dd97f44bf94b3b69dd7cbf792\u0022\u003EJOHN HAYES (National\u2014Wairarapa)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Agriculture: What steps has the Government recently made to progress agricultural greenhouse gas research?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022 data-id=\u00225ac82a1cc92d458691d8bb1f5a44bbc1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225ac82a1cc92d458691d8bb1f5a44bbc1\u0022\u003EHon DAVID CARTER (Minister of Agriculture):\u003C/span\u003E Last week Mr Groser and I were pleased to announce that as part of New Zealand\u2019s efforts with the Global Research Alliance on Agricultural Greenhouse Gases we have established a major new programme. The Global Research Alliance Senior Scientist Award will support scientists from alliance countries to undertake exchanges on research programmes into agricultural greenhouse gas mitigation. Those programmes last for 6 months. This is a great example of the alliance getting down to the challenging task of tackling agricultural emissions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ae94eea7-ba5f-4303-bf71-49e708bc9888\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e59818849fe94970a9531ea05bc519b7\u0022\u003EJohn Hayes\u003C/span\u003E: What is the aim of the Global Research Alliance Senior Scientist Award?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c4c1b757779545658a2844ad8b6cecf1\u0022\u003EHon DAVID CARTER\u003C/span\u003E: It is a practical step aimed at finding the scientific solutions to reduce agricultural greenhouse gas emissions. It will build capability within the New Zealand science sector in this important area, and allow greater collaboration between research communities right across the globe. It is just another example of the substantial effort this Government is putting into developing practical options to enable the agricultural sector to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002287130691f34f4b86815494427fc73deb\u0022\u003EPoints of Order\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c3ac7c8833fc4efc9391f5c3d5baccfc\u0022\u003EParliamentary Complex\u2014Operation of Facilities Beyond Usual Sitting Hours\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022 data-id=\u0022a16c30681dff414e8636a01bc761584f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a16c30681dff414e8636a01bc761584f\u0022\u003EHon JOHN BOSCAWEN (Deputy Leader\u2014ACT):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. You are probably aware that the Committee sat beyond midnight last night voting on Part 3 of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill. During that time the air conditioning to the Chamber was turned off and the lighting in the corridors became darker. Given the Government\u2019s intention to proceed on the bill, if the Committee is sitting beyond 6 o\u2019clock this evening voting on Part 4, can we have an assurance that catering facilities will be available for staff and members?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022 data-id=\u00227c1657c55ea744e491c71ebd9f5c171f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227c1657c55ea744e491c71ebd9f5c171f\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: In respect of the air conditioning and the lighting in the corridors, the matter has been drawn to the attention of the Parliamentary Service to try to ensure that it does not happen again. In respect of the refreshment facilities, there are standard times when those facilities are provided, and there is not a lot I can do about them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c480aa4aec2044718a686689ebf51c43\u0022\u003EMarine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00228f894e5b19654959b36f1bf18814d0e6\u0022\u003EIn Committee\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000147\u0022\u003EDebate resumed from 16 March.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c1f95f200d384663bca912bc74b1235d\u0022\u003EPart 4  Administrative and miscellaneous matters\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u00227d2d02ce07cf4d4b8da719b757e23147\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227d2d02ce07cf4d4b8da719b757e23147\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General):\u003C/span\u003E Part 4 of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill sets out procedures relating to the recognition of customary interests either by agreement or order of the court, and it deals with some administrative details. The part I particularly want to focus attention on is Subpart 1, which provides the procedure for the recognition of customary interests. It can be done by either recognition by agreement, or recognition by the court. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe key changes proposed in the Supplementary Order Paper focus on the procedure for recognition by agreement. A number of people had made submissions both to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and to me personally about a desire for greater transparency. To make more transparent any agreement negotiated with the Crown for recognising customary title, the Supplementary Order Paper changes recognition agreements for titles to be brought into effect by an Act of Parliament instead of an Order in Council. That will allow scrutiny of agreements by members of Parliament at select committees, and it will allow the public some say in the matter. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe next point that needs to be addressed is an application for a recognition order. The matter of principle that people may wish to discuss concerns which court one should apply to. I have tried in the bill to provide the best of both worlds. An application will be made to the High Court, but the court may refer any question of tikanga to the M\u0101ori Appellate Court. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EMembers may wonder why I chose the High Court and not the M\u0101ori Land Court. I suppose I was very influenced by the history of the Ng\u0101ti Apa litigation that began in the M\u0101ori Land Court. It went to the M\u0101ori Appellate Court, thence to the High Court, and then the Court of Appeal, and by leave it could have gone to the Privy Council. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI am also very conscious that proceedings in both the M\u0101ori Land Court and the M\u0101ori Appellate Court are capable of being the subject of applications for judicial review. So if anyone really wanted to delay a matter or oppose a matter down to the wire, the easy thing to do, if something had begun in the M\u0101ori Land Court, was to seek judicial review of anything. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI was very concerned about cost and delay, which is why I have put in the bill that the proceeding commence in the High Court, but, as I say, it is best of both worlds because there can be reference to the M\u0101ori Appellate Court for any question of tikanga. The opinion of the M\u0101ori Appellate Court will be binding on the court. The court may also refer any question of tikanga to an expert. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe next point I wish to address is contained in clause 101, \u201CService of application\u201D. This provision should allay any fears that it will simply be a question of an application served on the Crown. Local authorities have to be served, the Solicitor-General on behalf of the Attorney-General, and, importantly, any other person whom the court considers is likely to be directly affected by the application, and there needs to be public notice of the application. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EClause 105 is an important clause, and it is the subject of an amendment in the Supplementary Order Paper. This is the burden of proof clause, and it has been clarified to ensure that applicant groups are expected only to prove the positive elements in the tests. Some people have complained that that shows favouritism to applicants. It does nothing of the sort. The Court of Appeal in the Ng\u0101ti Apa case made it very clear, based on Canadian and Australian authority, that the onus of proving extinguishment lies on the Crown and that the necessary purpose must be clear and plain. Those authorities are well established. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ESubpart 3 deals with regulation-making powers. The only provisions I refer honourable members to for the debate are in clause 118, which provides for the Governor-General, by Order in Council, to make regulations for administrative purposes, and in clause 119, which states that regulations may be made for the management of the common marine and coastal area, particularly subclause (1)(a), which provides for regulations for the safety and protection of members of the public who exercise rights of access in and over the common marine and coastal area. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EClause 119(1)(e) prescribes offences, which is something that is not contained in the 2004 Act. An amendment is also proffered in the Supplementary Order Paper to provide that any person breaching a regulation or by-law may be directed to stop. Most of the provisions in this part of the legislation are of an administrative nature, but there are some important questions, dealing with both recognition by agreement and order of the court, that need to be addressed. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u0022620df3fa7635456297cc415129257590\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022620df3fa7635456297cc415129257590\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E In my opinion the most important part of Part 4 is, as the Attorney-General has already adverted to, the way in which people can have rights recognised under this legislation\u2014whether it can be done through an Act of Parliament or just by agreement through the Minister, or whether it needs to be done through the court. I want to come back to that point, but, before I do, I want to say that I was reflecting overnight on the tone of this debate, which I am pleased to say is quite measured. I think it reflects well upon us as a Parliament that it is measured. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225000b47051ee48ecb63c4cff846d61bf\u0022\u003EPaul Quinn\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, David.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022251b2f976ceb4f0fa9dc1c64939926b1\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Quinn says thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222180ccbc695848d7a39fa3f67f6fff87\u0022\u003EChris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: He hasn\u2019t participated in the debate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f823832726634f19b254bba07bef0f71\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Quinn has not yet taken a call on a number of the parts, so maybe that is one of the reasons why his contribution has been measured. I think it is important to put on record the sorts of comments that were being made at the Committee stage of the debate in 2004, and I will quote some of them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EDr Wayne Mapp, a current Minister in the Government, said: \u201CWhat the Government is doing here is clearly preferring M\u0101ori above all members of the community \u2026 So it is very, very clear that we have two classes of citizenship. M\u0101ori are in the preferred position.\u201D That was Dr Mapp. Gerry Brownlee, now Leader of the House and currently the Minister away in charge of earthquake recovery in Christchurch, said: \u201CThe bill is designed to placate M\u0101ori with a cheque and convince other New Zealanders that everything is OK when it is not.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002263e4235400b24734980ae773ed80aff6\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: Outrageous!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022316d1df431f04da78aad0b0e73a6042b\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: It is absolutely disgraceful. That bill did not go as far as this one does. The Hon Nick Smith said: \u201CThis bill is racist. This bill is flawed.\u201D That was his contribution. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f0b18d3da9f947ad94e8e231cef0f39f\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: He said that? Extraordinary!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223f961bf349754e6fa8ca7c3ef0b32e91\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: I am reading extracts from Hansard in November 2004. We had contributions from Nick Smith later. He was responding to Dover Samuels, who was responding to fears that had been rarked up in New Zealand that the Foreshore and Seabed Bill was going to prevent people from having a barbecue on the beach. Those comments had been made by a number of people in the National Party. Don Brash was one of them; Bill English, from memory, was one of them, too. So Dover Samuels was saying that that was not the effect of the Foreshore and Seabed Bill, and actually history shows that Dover Samuels was right. There is now agreement that that was never going to be the case. What did Nick Smith say? He said: \u201CDover Samuels said that it would not make any difference to families wanting to go down to the beach and have a barbecue. Well, yes, it does and I will tell members why. In relation to the 10 percent that his M\u0101ori caucus claims will now be foreshore and seabed reserves, it will be for the management committee to decide who will be able to have a barbecue and where.\u201D That is absolutely irresponsible. This was never about the beach; it was about the part of the foreshore that is wet. Access for recreational purposes was never ever at risk, and was expressly provided for in the Act. That was one of the most despicable acts of undermining race relations that we, I hope, will ever see in this Parliament. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EIn the third reading, after all that, Gerry Brownlee again came back with comments. He was the National spokesperson on M\u0101ori Affairs at the time, and that is why it is important that we remind New Zealanders how despicable these comments were. He said that \u201Cthis is the first time a Government in New Zealand has passed a law that is as overtly racist as this one.\u201D That was in reference to the Foreshore and Seabed Act, which National now says was not good enough in terms of protecting M\u0101ori rights. But at the time National members were saying the Act went far too far. So when I hear those members, including Tau Henare, saying \u201CApologise, apologise, apologise\u201D\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cadfb04ed5d84ca1b1702c8e114c092e\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s right; say sorry.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ccbcd1f7f25248e88c63b76746fd89de\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014to members on this side of the Chamber in respect of legislation that was not perfect but was not nearly as bad as was presented, and that was done against the climate of those sorts of comments, I say to Mr Henare that he should look at himself and record his own statements on talkback radio. He was not in Parliament at the time but he was rarking things up on radio.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EI turn to a particular point of difference, which is one of the largest differences between National and the M\u0101ori Party, and the other parties in Parliament, and that is whether agreements should be able to be made between a Minister and the Crown, and then be given effect to by Parliament. The legislation as it came to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee was even worse than that which has been proposed by the Attorney-General now, and I acknowledge that change. It stated that there could be agreements between the Minister and claimant groups that would be given effect to by way of regulation, without either parliamentary oversight or court oversight. The Supplementary Order Paper changes that and states that we can now have legislation to that effect. The Attorney-General says there is precedent for that, because that is how the Ng\u0101ti Porou settlement was given effect to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EThe position that other parties in this Parliament have got to is that we think there should be absolutely fulsome recognition of unextinguished M\u0101ori interests in the foreshore and seabed, but we also think there should be no more than fulsome recognition of unextinguished customary interests. If it is more than fulsome recognition of an unextinguished interest, it is not recognition of a common law right; it is actually a Treaty settlement. The mixture of these two concepts needs to be handled very carefully. Although we support Treaty settlements being pursuant to an Act of Parliament, we do not support recognition of existing interests in the foreshore and seabed through Parliament. We think those things are more cost-effectively and more properly, openly transparently, fairly achieved through the courts. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002276b8d91c641044d6a2d198c6df1d416b\u0022\u003EPaul Quinn\u003C/span\u003E: Gobbledegook.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002258775f9dc7944a7aa0109b65ce467fff\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: \u201CGobbledegook\u201D, says the \u201Clawyer\u201D from the other side. We already covered, yesterday, the issue that it is certainly not cheaper through Parliament; it costs over $2 million for every statute in this Parliament. So the cost of a statute giving effect to a foreshore and seabed agreement is probably worth more than the underlying interests\u2014a bit of a nonsense in the first place\u2014and it certainly costs more than the alternative process through the courts. There are a range of interests\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fd49784fcc7f4df0ba47bd62f2db2327\u0022\u003EPaul Quinn\u003C/span\u003E: They\u2019re not allowed legal aid, for a start.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002230326db647874f91af1e90282f0cc3c3\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: What was that? Not if we take legal aid into account?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224c74d221cf6c49b29171408ffa83d580\u0022\u003EPaul Quinn\u003C/span\u003E: I said they\u2019re not allowed legal aid under this bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bcf77885d4834351b02891368683558f\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: I was saying that even if we were to subsidise the cost of court processes, it would be a lower cost to the taxpayer to do that than to do it through Parliament. It is patently clear that that is the case. That is what I was saying.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EWhy are court processes important? There is not a balancing of interests here; there is recognition of extant, existing M\u0101ori interests in the foreshore and seabed. We all in this Parliament now agree that that should happen. We did not agree back in 2004. National opposed that at the time, most vociferously. But everyone in this Parliament now agrees that there should be proper recognition of continuing customary interests in the foreshore and seabed that have not been extinguished through history. Court processes, though, make sure that all relevant interests are taken into account, because if we under-recognise something, we are actually poking a stick in the eye of the M\u0101ori claimant. Many M\u0101ori claim that that is the effect of this legislation. Conversely, if we go too far and recognise a customary interest that under common law would have been found to have been extinguished, we are actually abrogating a public right in favour of a private right in respect of that section of M\u0101oridom. The courts are the ones that are best placed to make that determination. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003ECourts are well versed in ensuring that the interests of anyone who might be adversely affected are taken into account. They are well versed in protecting the property rights of M\u0101oridom, or indeed any other group, against inappropriate confiscation. That has always been their central role. At times courts in New Zealand\u2014and the old Ninety Mile Beach decision might be one of them\u2014have got it wrong. Now that we have the court saying that there are extant interests and that they ought to be recognised, why do we think Parliament should take that over? The High Court has always been the guardian of M\u0101ori\u2014well, not always. For the last two or three decades the High Court has been an effective guardian of M\u0101ori aspirations to property rights. Whether it be State-owned enterprise interests or whether it be, pursuant to Treaty settlement, assets being properly reserved to be available for Treaty settlements, the High Court and the Court of Appeal have guaranteed those rights to M\u0101oridom. It actually has not been Parliament that has led that. I am somewhat ashamed to say that it has not been Parliament that has led that. It has been the courts that have led that. Parliament has sometimes given recognition to that and set up processes that have facilitated that, but it has not been Parliament that has been the primary guardian of those interests; it has been the courts. I think this legislation is wrong in saying that we\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022 data-id=\u00227764d06fdcad407b96eab816b1c26931\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227764d06fdcad407b96eab816b1c26931\u0022\u003EHon MARYAN STREET (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Speaking on Part 4 of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill, which is named in a fairly anodyne way, \u201CAdministrative and miscellaneous matters\u201D, I think the Minister in the chair, the Attorney-General, was correct in drawing to the House\u2019s attention the actual import of this part of the legislation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003EMy colleague David Parker has teased out some of the legal implications of the process of recognising customary interests, which is addressed in this part. I will pick up on this issue, because we have a situation where it is possible for the recognition of customary rights to be made by an agreement, by the recognition of an order of the court, or through legislation, through an Act. I think this process is really problematic. The bit I think is problematic is the bit to do with recognition by agreement in clause 93 and following clauses. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003EIt becomes problematic because an applicant group and the responsible Minister can enter into an agreement recognising a protected customary right or a customary marine title without reference to anybody else. That is problematic. If the agreement is effected through an Order in Council, then the Minister asserts that it is subject to parliamentary scrutiny. That process would have a huge impact on the work of the Regulations Review Committee and would politicise the committee in a way that is not helpful to the procedures of Parliament. The only way there would be parliamentary scrutiny of an Order in Council is through the Regulations Review Committee. The committee receives Orders in Council and regulations. Politicising the committee is not helpful to the machinery of either government or, more important, Parliament. I think it is an unhelpful provision. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003EI also draw attention to the Minister\u2019s Supplementary Order Paper 207. As we know, this 73-page Supplementary Order Paper, which is about half the size of the original bill, includes changes to clauses 93 and 94 that relate to the agreements that are to be called recognition agreements and to how they are to be brought into effect. The difficulty is the lack of transparency around the process. These agreements are potentially backroom deals. They are potentially deals done in private that nobody has access to and that certainly the general public does not have access to. That process is not an advancement of lawmaking in this country. It is certainly not a desirable basis on which to settle this issue, which is fractious and complicated. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003EI draw the Committee\u2019s attention to Labour\u2019s amendment to clause 94, which puts recognition agreements, or the proposed agreements made under clause 93, under the auspices and the authority of the High Court, and states that unless the High Court can confirm by order that the requirements in other parts of the legislation are met, the proposed agreement can have no effect. So we send it back to the courts.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003EThe cry from the M\u0101ori Party was that it did not have its day in court. Now the M\u0101ori Party is looking to support secret deals that will not have their day in court unless this legislation is amended.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022 data-id=\u00225877843319ac4c58a785d2582b8c48ae\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225877843319ac4c58a785d2582b8c48ae\u0022\u003EHONE HARAWIRA (Independent\u2014Te Tai Tokerau):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Chairperson. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa e te Whare. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EMembers of both National and the M\u0101ori Party have deliberately tried to disrupt the flow of my k\u014Drero, particularly during Part 3 of this Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill. As we turn to Part 4, I look to their being perhaps a little more understanding and accepting of the fact that the issues that I raise during this debate, I do not raise because of any personal animosity towards them, but because of a genuine and widely held belief that this bill is not in the best interests of the M\u0101ori people, the M\u0101ori Party, or, indeed, Parliament itself. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EAs I turn to discuss Part 4 I pledge not to raise internal M\u0101ori Party caucus issues, nor to personalise the relationship between members of the M\u0101ori Party caucus and Ministers of the National Government, because this debate should not be about what one person may or may not have said to another in the privacy of a caucus meeting, nor should it be about the relationship between MPs in this House, even though such unsubstantiated trivialities were levelled against me during the debate on Part 3 of this bill last night. This debate should be about the principles underpinning the legislation the Committee is discussing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EAs I turn to Part 4 I will try to focus, as I have done in all previous speaking opportunities during the debate, on the issues highlighted by the bill and on the public statements of relevant players in the development of the legislation, because M\u0101ori people deserve to know exactly how they will be affected by the decisions of the parties and persons who are promoting the bill. Because I am a member of Parliament elected to represent the specific interests of M\u0101ori, it is that particular area that I intend to focus my comments on. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EI will begin my contribution to the debate by asking whether the M\u0101ori Party knows that the legally prescribed detail found in clauses 94 to 97 of this bill, and other legislation like it in the field of Treaty settlements, and in the oversight, the field of governance, and management of natural resources is a dangerous turn for M\u0101ori by forcing us into the legal environment whereby the value of traditional M\u0101ori principles or kaupapa M\u0101ori will be determined and legal precedents and benchmarks will be established that will impact on those principles for ever more. Does the M\u0101ori Party realise that allowing the courtrooms to become the battleground for determining the rightness, or otherwise, of kaupapa M\u0101ori, as noted in various clauses found in Part 4 of this bill, is detrimental to the principles themselves and to the world view they represent? Will that make the M\u0101ori Party reconsider the position it announced the other day that \u201CThis bill is in the House on our initiative. Make no bones \u2026 this is a Maori Party bill \u2026 We are pleased to stand here in support of this bill.\u201D? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EDoes the M\u0101ori Party realise that by so doing, it is sanctioning the legal capture of kaupapa M\u0101ori as found in this bill, thereby limiting the effectiveness of those principles by tying them to legal concepts that are derived from a society that over time has developed into the resource-exploiting, consumer-dominated society we see today\u2014a society that in many ways is in conflict with the M\u0101ori world view that kaupapa M\u0101ori is based on? Will the M\u0101ori Party, when it realises what it has done, think about withdrawing its view that \u201CThis bill is in the House on our initiative \u2026 this is a Maori Party bill.\u201D? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EDoes the M\u0101ori Party realise that by giving its support to clauses 97 to 103 of Part 4 of this bill it is endorsing the Government\u2019s attempts to codify the principles I have already mentioned in a way that our t\u016Bpuna would not agree with and our people will not accept, and that by supporting this bill the M\u0101ori Party is setting the stage for decades of litigation as M\u0101ori seek to reclaim ground that has been lost through the passage of the bill? If the M\u0101ori Party does realise the mistake it has made, will that help it to think about dumping the decision it announced the other day that this bill is a M\u0101ori Party bill? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EDoes the M\u0101ori Party realise that by giving its support to the many clauses noted under Part 4 of this bill it is setting the stage for the spectacular loss of M\u0101ori connection to the foreshore and seabed by forcing M\u0101ori into the High Court, where $100,000 is the price of an opening address, half a million dollars is the cost of progress, and unfortunate rulings are the order of the day? When the M\u0101ori Party realises that the bill forces M\u0101ori into the \u201CCourt of Great Cost and No Return\u201D, might it not actually disown the position it announced the other day that \u201Cthis is a Maori Party bill \u2026 We are pleased to stand here in support of this bill.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EDoes the M\u0101ori Party know that by its support of aspects of the law as outlined in specific clauses under Part 4 of this bill it may be signalling the end of all Treaty claims to the foreshore and seabed, because once the bill is passed, the foreshore and seabed will no longer be in Crown hands and will become common space, owned by no one, and therefore unable to be claimed by M\u0101ori? When the M\u0101ori Party realises that the bill will put an end to all Treaty claims to the foreshore and seabed, might not that finally make the M\u0101ori Party wake up and say that perhaps it made the wrong decision when it announced the other day that this is a M\u0101ori Party bill and that it is pleased to stand here in support of it? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EDoes the M\u0101ori Party know that its support for clause 105 of the bill, whereby M\u0101ori are required to prove customary title, is inconsistent with the position that is widely held by M\u0101ori throughout the country that M\u0101ori should not have to go to court to prove what the whole world already knows anyway: that M\u0101ori were here first? Why do we have to prove it? Will the M\u0101ori Party finally accept that the position that \u201Cthis is a Maori Party bill \u2026 We are pleased to stand here in support of this bill.\u201D is simply untenable to M\u0101ori and unacceptable to all those who support the principles of justice?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EI began my speech by saying I hope that those in the M\u0101ori Party and National who have been heckling while I was speaking\u2014but not today\u2014understand and accept that the issues I raise during the debate on the bill I do not raise because of any personal animosity but because of a genuine and widely held belief that the bill is not in the best interests of the M\u0101ori people, the M\u0101ori Party, or, indeed, Parliament itself. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003EThe arrogance of the Government in refusing to participate in this debate is widely noted by all New Zealanders. The decision by the M\u0101ori Party to adopt the same attitude is duly noted by all M\u0101ori, as well. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003ET\u016B te Ao M\u0101ori, t\u016B te rangatiratanga, t\u016B Motuhake. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227883c85e-a5bb-4a12-9962-80df55af0ecd\u0022\u003E[Long live M\u0101oridom, sovereignty, and independence. Greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022 data-id=\u0022de76d0a698ff4ca39dfefe72c277b87d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022de76d0a698ff4ca39dfefe72c277b87d\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora. E mihi kau ana ki te Minita kei te tae tata atu t\u0101tou ki te otinga o te ture nei. N\u0101 te mea i roto i \u0101ku e taumahatia atu te mahi p\u0113nei tonu, engari e pai ana kei te tae tata atu ki a t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E[Thank you. I congratulate the Minister as the completion of this bill draws near. I understand that this work is strenuous, but it us heartening that we are reaching the end.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI will pick up on a couple of points in Part 4\u2014firstly, the recognition of protected customary rights. Having listened to the summary of the Minister in the chair, the Attorney-General, I will make a few points and I hope that he takes note. Clause 92, \u201CRecognition of protected customary rights and customary marine title\u201D, states: \u201C(1) A protected customary right or customary marine title relating to a specified part of the common marine and coastal area may be recognised by\u2014(a) an agreement \u2026 or (b) an order of the Court \u2026\u201D. I think that one of the things we should say up front now concerns the cost in relation to that. I hope that we do not get into a continued litigious barrage where people just carry on sucking the pocket of the State, or, worse still, cost iwi and hap\u016B outrageous sums of money for nought. So I hope for that, in the sense of this agreement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EIn the Minister\u2019s summary of issues relevant to the court, it was interesting to listen to his appraisal of why applications for a recognition order should go to the High Court. I think that in relation to what Mr Harawira said, it is quite right that we must be careful to ensure\u2014and I was trying to say this in a different way yesterday\u2014that the tikanga and tuku iho aspects need special expertise. I hope that the Minister will see it right and gather around him able advisers, or people who can ensure they have an understanding of tuku iho and aspects of tikanga that are relevant to M\u0101ori that they have inherited over generations, not just through their genealogical ties but also through living tikanga and tuku iho, through practising it and minding it. I hope the Minister will ensure that we have people who can decipher those aspects and make sure they do not get put asunder by over-endowed legalese, even though that is what creates legislation in this country. But there is a place for understanding\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a4dee016e8514f27b95ecd77302144e8\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I wouldn\u2019t call the Minister over-endowed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002234e116d294be448c9deeae5fad4bec2d\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014the great Minister\u2014and I hope that he makes sure of that. This is the serious part, where M\u0101oridom would really struggle with any attempt to realign aspects of tikanga and tuku iho. It is a serious part; it is a very, very serious part. This issue was relevant to the usage of the M\u0101ori Appellate Court and the M\u0101ori Land Court, because it has been their everyday business. They are practised in it. It is like the Environment Court and the Family Court; they are practised in it. They understand the fundamentals, and they understand the nuances that drive their activity. So I say kia ora to the Minister. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EWhen we get down to clause 95, \u201CRegistration and notification of agreement\u201D, we see that in subclause (2)(c), a copy of the agreement has to be sent to \u201C(i) the local authorities \u2026 (ii) the Minister of Conservation; and (iii) the Minister of Fisheries; and (iv) the Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs; and (v) any other person\u201D\u2014and Joe Bloggs\u2014\u201Cwho the chief executive considers is directly affected by the agreement.\u201D That is quite interesting. I ask the Minister\u2014hopefully\u2014how he will ensure true partnership and cooperation between all of those agencies, and how he will ensure that the cooperation aligns with the real needs of iwi and wh\u0101nau. I place that question with him. We know well enough about the internal differences that can happen in agencies, I tell the Minister. I hope there is some template or guidance to ensure that the situation does not end up like what I saw in my time in relation to agencies coming together, where it was all about their key performance indicators and outcomes. Those are right, but at the end of the day the last thing on the agencies\u2019 radar is ensuring surety and positive development that will benefit M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EUnder clause 101, \u201CService of application\u201D, I was wondering, to put it quite crudely, whether there was financial assistance in this area, because a lot of this talk behoves the fact that there is a cost. I think the worst thing would be to punish iwi and hap\u016B, or to distance them from the opportunity, because they have no p\u016Btea. I need to be as crude as that, I tell the Minister; I hope that that need is taken account of, and that we do recognise that. Local authorities can put up our rates and get a bit more take, but I ask the Minister whether there is financial assistance. It is all too easy in preparing new legislation to forget that, and to say: \u201CWe will do this and we will do that; now you M\u0101oris go and apply. You register, you do whatever else, and you build up your plans, but just carry on, run a raffle and whatever else, and raise the finance.\u201D It is as crude as that; I hope that a very clear direction is sought by the Minister. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EWith regard to clause 105, \u201CBurden of proof\u201D\u2014and this is an interesting one, I tell the Minister; I have heard him wax lyrical on this two or three times in other situations\u2014quite certainly in this case it has to be about the iwi proving what they are claiming. That is reasonably straightforward. But as the Minister said, it is up to the Crown to disprove that, to put spokes in the wheel and try to distort it\u2014not necessarily to undermine it\u2014or to prove it is not as iwi claim. Again, apart from financial assistance, I think that a fair bit of expert help may be needed there. It is quite easy for people to get up and make a claim because they know things through tradition and whatever else, but at the end of the day, I tell the Minister, I hope that he recognises the need for financial assistance. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EIn clause 119, \u201CRegulations for management of common marine and coastal area\u201D, there is mention of the Governor-General. There will be a great new Governor-General. I mihi to the present Governor-General, who is a great man, and to this new bloke, this new tangata whenua, who will be wonderful, wonderful. It is great that he will have the duty and role to instigate parts of this legislation. This clause certainly is about the Governor-General acting, by Order in Council, on the recommendation of the Minister of Conservation\u2014again, it is about partnerships. I ask how the partnerships are defined and ensured so that M\u0101ori will get a fair go. The member Tau Henare over there mortally wounded us yesterday by abusing us, and you know, it is really hard to take that sort of thing. We get it from P\u0101keh\u0101s, we get it from the media, but to get it from our own kin, like Tau Henare, is very, very upsetting and undermining. I think it is outlandish. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002278862d31d7fa4b289fb882e86421684a\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: What\u2019s that, e R\u014Dp\u016B Reipa?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fb7f9614be624228bfb71bde086282e2\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: Te R\u014Dp\u016B N\u0101hinara\u2014Pirimia Key\u2014said: \u201CNational will look to abolish the M\u0101ori seats.\u201D, and also said: \u201CIf the Government does not legislate to protect ownership of the foreshore for all New Zealanders, then we will put forward our own bill.\u201D There is something very mysterious there. I mihi to the member for Te Tai Tonga in that other party, because, if he abolished the M\u0101ori seats\u2014and the difference in the vote here is about three or four seats\u2014this bill would not go through. At this late time, I challenge and plead with M\u0101ori Party members to change their vote, because National said in July 2003 that it would get rid of the M\u0101ori seats. National is waiting for M\u0101ori Party members to sanction this bill and get it through, and then it will get rid of their seats. Look, it is not too late\u2014seriously, it is not too late. Those members should turn away, because that is what he said\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225524719685fd43b3a4a262e5b9293ab8\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: What does the agreement say?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262a4780a03cf473e92923873a603e521\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: What does the agreement say? In 2004 Dr Brash, who was the best friend of Mr Tau Henare\u2014who used to stand by him on those \u201CIwi/Kiwi\u201D placards and all that stuff; he used to rap it up\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022541384a82cad406088f8f9c4b54e8c2a\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: Kotahitanga!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fa802273349c4ba4b6be998041aca068\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: That is it\u2014Brash and \u201CTrash\u201D. They used to stand on the beach, yell out, and insult M\u0101ori. Dr Brash said: \u201CWe believe that there should be one law for all, that we are all New Zealanders with the same rights and obligations under the law. New Zealanders do not want to have separate titles and development rights for our beaches according to race.\u201D Then Gerry Brownlee chastised us. It was Gerry Brownlee, who is doing a reasonable job in Christchurch, who said: \u201CWe do not favour a process that would give M\u0101ori a greater say than non-M\u0101ori in the management of these significant resources.\u201D National has made its position on this clear, right from the start. \u201CWe believe our beaches and our lakes should belong to me.\u201D\u2014that is what Gerry said. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI plead with the M\u0101ori Party to understand what National said in 2003. National said that it would get rid of the M\u0101ori seats, so I am not too sure why M\u0101ori Party members are making the difference in passing this legislation, or why they are chastising the public and boasting that it is their bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022 data-id=\u0022115abd85670b452b9c7961f4c509ce8c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022115abd85670b452b9c7961f4c509ce8c\u0022\u003EHon JOHN BOSCAWEN (Deputy Leader\u2014ACT):\u003C/span\u003E How interesting that we have just heard Mr Parekura Horomia talking about the virtues of one law for all, and Tau Henare asking what is wrong with that. One would believe, with that interjection, that Tau Henare actually believes we should have one law for all, which highlights that Tau Henare does not understand the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill. He does not understand the detailed provisions in this bill. One of the clauses we are debating is clause 93 in Part 4, and that clause restricts iwi and hap\u016B\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002227e6dd0e4f8149b8bc9f6c27dd995246\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: Where\u2019s Hilary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223d29d80d6bb8403e87aa956fb198d1ba\u0022\u003EHon JOHN BOSCAWEN\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014I say to Mr Henare\u2014to bringing claims within 6 years. Why should iwi and hap\u016B have the ability to bring claims restricted? That is just one example of why we do not have one law for all, and it is just one example of a provision that is bad for iwi and hap\u016B. I can point to a number of provisions that give iwi and hap\u016B benefits that other New Zealanders do not have, but, equally, clause 93 takes away from the rights of iwi and hap\u016B.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EIn this debate\u2014and I am hoping to make a number of contributions on Part 4\u2014I want to focus specifically on clauses 93 and 105. My colleague Hilary Calvert has a number of amendments, and a number of them are very substantial and make substantial improvements to this bill. But before detailing those amendments, and before coming back to clauses 93 and 105, I need to briefly comment on the interaction and the comments from Hone Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EHone Harawira has used this debate as a continued opportunity to take shots at the M\u0101ori Party, and I need to repeat that this bill is a victory for the M\u0101ori Party. I think we can see that in the fact that 200 people are marching towards Wellington in a h\u012Bkoi, whereas 7 years ago there were 40,000. There may be a perception that M\u0101ori do not support the M\u0101ori Party on this bill, but I have no doubt that over the next 7 months, as the M\u0101ori Party gets out into the community and explains the massive benefits\u2014notwithstanding that 6-year restriction I have just referred to\u2014it will build on this support, and the M\u0101ori Party will be returned to Parliament.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EOne has to look no further than the article published in the New Zealand Herald last Wednesday where Tariana Turia and Pita Sharples made a point of all the benefits they had achieved, and they concluded: \u201CMake no mistake\u2014the Maori Party persuaded the National Party to support this bill. We will work with any party that supports the kaupapa of our people. \u2026 For a small party, we have achieved amazing results in a short time.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022118b5ac457bd4f8ba1811b8b0bcf91ee\u0022\u003EHon Parekura Horomia\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Chairperson. One thing that is important is to ensure that our language is pronounced well. The member said \u201Ckaukapakapa\u201D. It is actually \u201Cko-papa\u201D; \u201Cko\u201D as in \u201Ctoe\u201D; \u201Cpa\u201D as in \u201Cpa\u201D\u2014kaupapa, not kaukapakapa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002203bc0052-6dd8-4807-998a-4768a4732e0b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d6d7a18c3c4459eac19184bfd1add66\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker)\u003C/span\u003E: I thank the member. I am sure we can all improve our pronunciation of the M\u0101ori language, myself included. But I say to the member, with the deepest respect, that in the strict rulings of this Chamber, the kawa of this Chamber, that is not a point of order. But it was helpful.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a13a481714624ff2bd310ac9cb4f1ce2\u0022\u003EHon JOHN BOSCAWEN\u003C/span\u003E: What the ACT Party, and I have no doubt the Labour Party, have tried to have is a debate based on ideas and arguments. It has been very, very sad to see this debate cast as a racist debate in the media. I found it particularly sad when just half an hour ago, Tariana Turia, alongside me and Rahui Katene, made the comment, when responding to David Parker\u2019s submissions: \u201CNo, because you\u2019re a bunch of racists.\u201D I heard those words myself just a few feet from my seat, and I found it very sad that those comments were made by someone who has achieved so much for M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EI will turn now to clause 105, which states that to bring a claim for customary title it is not actually necessary for iwi and hap\u016B to prove that claim. In actual fact, it reverses the burden of proof. It says that those customary interests are deemed to exist unless proven otherwise. In other words, M\u0101ori, iwi, and h\u0101pu have a customary interest in the foreshore and seabed, now renamed the common marine and coastal area, unless proved otherwise. We heard from the Attorney-General, who said that there was nothing wrong with that and that was no big deal because that is the situation in Canadian and Australian common law, and we are doing nothing more than what has already happened. The Attorney-General either is trying to mislead New Zealanders or he does not understand his own bill; I suspect that he understands his own bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EClause 105 is very important. In 1840 M\u0101ori customary interests, iwi and h\u0101pu customary interests, went out to the 3-mile limit. They went out to the limit of the territorial seas. This bill enshrines in legislation a customary interest that goes beyond that 3-mile limit out to 12 miles. It creates a customary interest whereby it is then on the Crown to prove that the customary interest does not exist. If one doubts the importance of the massive win that that clause gives and the massive transfer of wealth it will create from all New Zealanders to just some New Zealanders, one needs only to look at the speech Tariana Turia gave in this House in her second reading speech.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EIf we look at Tariana\u2019s comments in Hansard, we see that she says: \u201CThere is also a very interesting provision, tucked away in clause 105, the burden of proof clause, which states explicitly that \u2018it is presumed, in the absence of proof to the contrary, that customary interest has not been extinguished. \u2026 In other words it will be up to the Crown to prove that any interest had been extinguished\u2014rather than placing the onus of proof on the wh\u0101nau, h\u0101pu and iwi.\u201D So this bill creates a customary interest: the ability of iwi or h\u0101pu to claim a customary title over land to the 12-mile limit, the territorial seas, which is a limit that was only just extended less than 40 years ago.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EI come to clause 93. The ACT Party campaigned very strongly for the tightening up of this provision. We have said to New Zealanders that this provision, as it came to Parliament, originally provided for an Order in Council to give effect to an agreement on customary title. It did not have to come back before Parliament and be scrutinised by public scrutiny. Now the Government has moved on that; it has made this change. One might be inclined to ask why. One might be inclined to ask about the quality of the scrutiny that Parliament would give, because we saw that the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee scrutiny of this bill was very poor. The 520-page officials\u2019 report and its recommendations were dismissed in an hour and a half. But nevertheless we have that scrutiny. So that is at least something to be grateful for. That is important, because the provisions of this bill are very, very wide ranging.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EThe Attorney-General has focused on the issue of free access. I wonder how many boaties are aware of the provisions of clause 28, which will be incorporated into those agreements to be scrutinised by Parliament. For example, boaties are allowed \u201Cto temporarily anchor, moor, and ground\u201D a boat and are allowed to remain in a place \u201Cfor a convenient time\u201D. What is a convenient time for boaties? What does temporarily anchoring their boat mean? Does that mean they can anchor their boat for 1 hour, 3 hours, or a day? At what stage do they overextend their welcome and a customary title can charge them for mooring their boat? We do not know; the courts do not know. The courts will have to find out, and the Attorney-General has the audacity to come into this Chamber and create uncertainty. This bill does not create certainty.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EI move now to some of the amendments that the ACT Party is putting forward, and there are several\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226593f6d816bb46858d38dfd40101cda6\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: Several hundred!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221bd4c32f335d4decad7fd739731687ec\u0022\u003EHon JOHN BOSCAWEN\u003C/span\u003E: There have been several hundred in total, I say to Mr Henare, and what a disgrace that we were in this Chamber last night after midnight voting on this bill and voting on the Attorney-General\u2019s amendments. It is interesting that we are voting on the Attorney-General\u2019s amendments, because if he had followed proper parliamentary process, we would have had those amendments in the select committee\u2014the very select committee Mr Henare chairs, and like an animal all he can do is sit there and bark at me. He sits there and barks. If he had chaired the select committee properly and shown some leadership, we would not have been sitting in the Chamber after midnight to vote on the Attorney-General\u2019s amendments. They would have been properly included in the report-back of the select committee. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EI will move to the first of the major amendments that Hilary Calvert is moving. It is an amendment to clause 118(1).\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022 data-id=\u00223b6c349cc95f4482a5b4e065aa175637\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223b6c349cc95f4482a5b4e065aa175637\u0022\u003ERAHUI KATENE (M\u0101ori Party\u2014Te Tai Tonga):\u003C/span\u003E I am grateful for the opportunity to speak on Part 4 of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill. I want to speak particularly on clauses 97 and 105. Clause 97, as we know, allows the High Court to refer a question of tikanga to the M\u0101ori Appellate Court for its opinion or to obtain the advice of a p\u016Bkenga. The concept of p\u016Bkenga comes, of course, from the M\u0101ori Land Court and the M\u0101ori Appellate Court, where the court seeks the assistance of those experts who have experience and knowledge of tikanga M\u0101ori. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EIt really saddened me to hear the nature of the k\u014Drero from the ACT Party around tikanga. One of the major achievements the M\u0101ori Party has secured in this bill has been to ensure that tikanga permeates the legislation. In that way we see the value accorded to M\u0101ori customary values and practices being reflected right throughout. I am mindful of the challenge left by former MP and esteemed M\u0101ori leader T\u0101 Apirana Ngata and his much quoted words: \u201CE tipu e rea\u201D. In those words, T\u0101 Apirana encouraged M\u0101ori to grasp the tools of the P\u0101keh\u0101 world while at the same time cherish ng\u0101 taonga a o t\u016Bpuna M\u0101ori\u2014the treasures of our ancestors. It was, if one likes, the notion of promoting excellence in both worlds. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EI have to wonder whether the ACT Party has grasped the notion of living in a Treaty-based nation in which partnership means to cherish the foundations of the two Treaty partners, working in two worlds, Aotearoa New Zealand. A commitment to nationhood, driven from the Treaty, would mean that this House would never again be subjected to the cultural assault of tikanga being described in the terms of Alice in Wonderland. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EFor the sake of generations to come, I want to make it explicitly clear that we in the M\u0101ori Party understand that tikanga is consistent with kaupapa M\u0101ori\u2014kaupapa such as kotahitanga, rangatiratanga, and whanaungatanga. Tikanga are our practices, that which is tika\u2014true and accurate. Tikanga are derived from kaupapa M\u0101ori, the foundation of M\u0101ori culture, and the basis of M\u0101ori world views. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EIronically, the reference to Alice in Wonderland was made during a k\u014Drero on the preamble\u2014a preamble that, monumentally, introduces for the first time into any public environment or into any resource management - related legislation the kaupapa of manaakitanga and the tikanga that are derived from it. In Ng\u0101i Tahu, for example, the concept of manaakitanga is the tikanga that tangata whenua practise towards manuhiri, and it enabled whalers from foreign shores to remain on the takutai and set up whaling stations. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EThe tikanga surrounding manaakitanga is such that the more hospitality that tangata whenua display, the more mana they demonstrably possess. Ng\u0101i Tahu has great mana, as we have seen with their response to recent events that have struck the people of their rohe. So, as many people of great mana have done throughout New Zealand\u2019s history, they gave without hesitation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EManaakitanga, as mana in action, works only when the system of reciprocity on which it is based is understood. When this legislation states that it should be enacted to reflect the principle of manaakitanga, we are not entering a virtual rabbit-hole of unknown qualities or quantities. We know exactly what it is that we seek, and that is to restore the balance of mana and to uphold tikanga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EAlthough this bill does not propose mana motuhake, as some may wish to see, it does propose a relationship in keeping with those tikanga derived from the kaupapa of k\u0101wanatanga and rangatiratanga. There is great mana in this. In order for the fruits of this exchange of mana to fully materialise, it is imperative that local and regional authorities step up to the mark in their exercise of k\u0101wanatanga, giving mana to those expressions of rangatiratanga by the kaitiaki of takutai moana, such as the planning documents. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EAlthough the misguided few look to role models such as Alice in Wonderland, I know there are those amongst us who look to our own Pacific role models\u2014figures such as M\u0101ui, who looked beyond the horizon, using the wisdom of his ancestors and the boldness of his youth to seek change in the world. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EThe other key clause I want to refer to in Part 4 is clause 105. This is an extremely significant clause that has attracted great interest from those who have taken the time to read the bill. I do have to say in passing that it is hard to tolerate some of the statements I have heard in the public arena from people, including some MPs, unfortunately, who have not read the bill yet claim that they oppose it. I do not understand the logic whereby someone can be opposed to something but not actually know what they are opposing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EI would like to read from clause 105(3), set out on Supplementary Order Paper 207, which states: \u201CIn the case of every application for a recognition order, it is presumed, in the absence of proof to the contrary, that a customary interest has not been extinguished.\u201D Clause 105, the burden of proof clause, is a major initiative, and I have to say it is a major initiative brought about by the member from the north. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EThe 2004 Act required M\u0101ori to prove that extinguishment of customary title had not occurred. Proving something had not occurred over a 170-year period was a significant burden on M\u0101ori. The takutai moana bill places that burden on the Crown, where it should be. If the Crown cannot prove extinguishment, then customary title will be recognised, provided the other elements of the test are met. Clause 105(2), set out on Supplementary Order Paper 207, provides that for the recognition of customary marine title \u201Cthe applicant group must prove that the specified area\u2014(a) is held in accordance with tikanga; and (b) has been used and occupied by the applicant group, either (i) from 1840 to the present day; or (ii) from the time of a customary transfer to the present day.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EClause 105(3), as I have read out, provides that it is presumed, in the absence of proof to the contrary, that a customary interest has not been extinguished. The amendment is required, as the Government\u2019s intention regarding burden of proof was unclear. The clause as redrafted is explicit that claimant groups must prove only the positive elements of the test\u2014for example, the group has held the area or customary right has been exercised since 1840, in accordance with tikanga. This means the Crown is responsible for proving that the applicant group\u2019s use and occupation of the area has not been exclusive, that there has been a substantial interruption to the group\u2019s occupation of the area, or that there has been extinguishment at law. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003EThe intention of clause 105 is to make it clear where the burden of proof lies for the evidence relating to the test for protected customary rights and customary marine title. I want to really highlight this initiative. It is something that I believe establishes a very clear precedent for working in a way in which tangata whenua and the Crown operate as Treaty partners. Clause 105 is a very important issue. It picks up what the Court of Appeal said in the Ng\u0101ti Apa case\u2014that the burden of extinguishment lies on the person or body that seeks to have it extinguished; in this case, the Crown. The Crown has the burden of extinguishment, and that is where it should lie, and the advice I have received from iwi is that that is a just and proper thing to do. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u00226b9c6afe7ad943ba84f8c4288a274f5a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226b9c6afe7ad943ba84f8c4288a274f5a\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Earlier we heard Paul Quinn say that David Parker was talking gobbledegook. How appropriate; there is no member in the Chamber who is more qualified to recognise gobbledegook when he hears it. Paul Quinn is the member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee who takes 3\u00BD minutes to ask a question that requires a yes or no answer, and in the course of that 3\u00BD minutes he will answer the question three times himself, and then he will still contradict himself.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022de04658101bd4827b9638251bda185e7\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I seek the leave of the Committee for all ACT amendments on this part to be taken as one question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002203bc0052-6dd8-4807-998a-4768a4732e0b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dff8bd99e7c745f9b7f561fd1a7e50f6\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker)\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for that. Is there any objection? Objection is taken.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea7e11bd16d54ae69d1375028bd42cb1\u0022\u003EHon John Boscawen\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Chairperson. I would like to express my disgust that that motion was moved as another Labour member of Parliament asked me to leave the Chamber in order to have a private discussion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002203bc0052-6dd8-4807-998a-4768a4732e0b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002289ded1c6748445e9aff36e577b8e8fc5\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker)\u003C/span\u003E: That is not a point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002231f3526dd7d94bf0b0ae414a75bb7722\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: As I was saying about Paul Quinn, there is no better member of Parliament qualified to recognise gobbledegook when he hears it, and the glazed and dazed and tired expressions on the faces of members in the Chamber are not because they were up until midnight last night voting, they are because we are still trying to figure out the last question that Paul Quinn asked in the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. So I thank Mr Quinn for his contribution to the debate on the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill. It has been going on for 3 days and that was the most intelligent comment he has made so far. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EI come to the application for recognition orders as set out in Part 4, which is about applying for recognition of customary rights. The more I think about what a customary right is, the more irrelevant it seems to this whole bill. There are very few examples of what a customary right is other than the launching of waka and the collection of h\u0101ngi stones. Where I come from up north we collect h\u0101ngi stones on the land; we do not collect h\u0101ngi stones out at sea. I come from the Bay of Islands, where there are a lot of old volcanoes, so there is a lot of scoria and we certainly do not need to go diving for h\u0101ngi stones in order to collect them. Regarding the launching of waka, we take our boats out all the time every weekend, so why is it that we would need to go through the process of applying to be able to launch our boats? It would take time, it would take effort, and it would take money\u2014I would say\u2014to make an application to launch our boats and to collect h\u0101ngi stones if we wanted to go diving for them. Diving for h\u0101ngi stones would certainly do away with the need for lead weights on one\u2019s diving belt; one would just need to hold on to the h\u0101ngi stones.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThe process for going through an application is that people have to come up with the contents of an application for customary rights, which in itself is a process that I will go through with members. The original Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill includes clause 100, \u201CRegistry for filing application\u201D, although that is omitted by Supplementary Order Paper 207, and clause 101, \u201CService of application\u201D. Clause 101 states: \u201CThe applicant group applying for a recognition order must serve the application on\u2014(a) the local authorities that have statutory functions in the area of the common marine and coastal area \u2026 and\u2014(b) any local authority that has statutory functions in the area adjacent to the area of the common marine and coastal area \u2026 and\u2014(c) the Solicitor-General\u201D\u2014the words \u201Con behalf of the Attorney-General\u201D are inserted by Supplementary Order Paper 207. What is the M\u0101ori Party thinking about, wanting to put our people through this? I have gone through only half of the process just to launch a waka, or to launch a 14-foot aluminium dinghy to go fishing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThe next part of the process is set out in clause 102, \u201CPublic notice of application, which states: \u201C(1) The application group applying for a recognition order must give public notice of the application. (2) The public notice must include, as a minimum,\u2014(a) the name of the applicant group and its description as a hap\u016B or iwi, \u2026 and (b) a brief description of the application, \u2026 and (c) a description of the particular area of the common marine and coastal area \u2026 (e) in the case of an application for recognition of a protected customary right, a description of the right; and (f) a date that complies with subsection (3) \u2026 and (g) the registry of the Court \u2026\u201D. This is a nonsense process, just so that hap\u016B and iwi and applicant groups can go to get the h\u0101ngi stones they can get on land and launch waka. I cannot think of any other customary rights that one would need it for. Last night I mentioned getting pipis and diving for scallops, and I was corrected by my colleagues who told me that is all covered under the Fisheries Act, so we do not have to worry about that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022 data-id=\u0022b7c4a669009b434a8d31eeb6bcd3969d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b7c4a669009b434a8d31eeb6bcd3969d\u0022\u003ECHRIS TREMAIN (Senior Whip\u2014National):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the question be now put.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022453e290adedb45e394b96e254484a769\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022453e290adedb45e394b96e254484a769\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E The next part of the application process set out in Part 4 of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill is that the applicant has to give notice of who may appear on an application for recognition order, then there are the evidence and burden of proof parts of the process. Supplementary Order Paper 207 suggests that clause 105, \u201CBurden of proof\u201D, be substituted with \u201CIn the case of the application for recognition of protected customary rights in a specified area of the common marine and coastal area, the applicant group must prove that the protected customary right has been exercised in the specific area; and continues to be exercised by that group in the same area in accordance with tikanga.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThe M\u0101ori Party members say that applicant groups\u2014M\u0101ori iwi, hap\u016B, and wh\u0101nau\u2014have to prove that they have been launching waka and collecting h\u0101ng\u012B stones in the area in accordance with tikanga. My question to the M\u0101ori Party is why should applicant groups\u2014our wh\u0101nau\u2014have to prove that stuff and go through an application process to prove a customary right to do what we as M\u0101ori just do anyway? In my belief, the application process is a total nonsense. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EClause 99 defines the contents of an application. Applicants have to \u201Cstate whether it is an application for a recognition of a protected customary right, or of customary marine title,\u201D. If it is an application for recognition of a protected customary right, applicants have to describe the applicant group and identify the particular area. Why should M\u0101ori have to identity the particular area where they want to launch their waka from? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EApplicants then have to state the grounds on which the application is made and name a person to be the holder of the order. Applicants actually have to name someone to be a holder of an order for wh\u0101nau to go and launch a waka off a beach somewhere. It is a nonsense. Applicants have to specify contact details for the group and for the person named to hold the order. They have to give the contact details\u2014people\u2019s phone numbers, email addresses, cellphone numbers, and addresses\u2014of everyone who wants to go and launch their wakas or gather their h\u0101ng\u012B stones out at sea. An application has to be supported by an affidavit. Applicants actually have to make a statement backing up why they want to have recognition of this right to go and collect their h\u0101ng\u012B stones. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EI feel that this whole part about recognition of a customary right is a nonsense. I just do not see why M\u0101ori have to go through this whole process to draw up an application, take it to court, register it, and do whatever they have to do, just to ask for the right to do what we have always done anyway. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThat process is what the M\u0101ori Party will put our people through. M\u0101ori Party members sit there and say they are proud to put this burden of work on to our people for no reason. It is ridiculous. It is gobbledegook, as Paul Quinn says. It is gobbledegook. It is nonsense, and Rahui Katene is actually standing up and justifying it when it is just absolutely ridiculous. This issue is what our people marched for in 2004. As I said last night, they were not led on a h\u012Bkoi; they have been led up the garden path. They have had the wool pulled over their eyes by the M\u0101ori Party that this legislation is something good for us as a people. It is just an absolute joke. It is a nonsense. To quote the learned member across the Chamber, it is gobbledegook. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002297a1732c284c4d7180a94e5eafb31352\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: He\u2019s not learned.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fea1c09042ee4d81a0b85a35064df01e\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: OK; that was excessive use of hyperbole there, I agree. I will wait for Paul Quinn to jump to his feet and to actually take a call and contribute to this whole debate, because so far he and the Hon Tau Henare have basically been barrelling out and chastising everyone else who stands up to contribute. People on this side of the Chamber have made rich and comprehensive contributions on the bill, and those two members have just sat over there and all they have done is throw bricks at everyone else who stands up.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022 data-id=\u0022470b933eb64e4148acfc4764c6128b4b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022470b933eb64e4148acfc4764c6128b4b\u0022\u003EPAUL QUINN (National):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the question be now put.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022ad81b5a9a95c44ccb0b2fd7100f9c15e\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the question be now put.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 62\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; M\u0101ori Party 4; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 59\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000270\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 207 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to Part 4, and the following amendments in his name, be agreed to:\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000271\u0022\u003Eto omit from clause 102(2)(a) \u201Ca hap\u016B or iwi\u201D and substitute \u201Can iwi, hap\u016B, or wh\u0101nau\u201D; and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000272\u0022\u003Eto insert in clause 120(1)(c) after \u201Caircraft\u201D \u201Cas defined in section 2 of the Civil Aviation Act 1980\u201D.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002225286ab0d2b8404499f8f3443c98d7e9\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 62\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; M\u0101ori Party 4; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 59\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000273\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 92 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000274\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000275\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Cmay\u201D and substitute \u201Cmust\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000276\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (1)(a); and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000277\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (2).\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002247747f2caf514d76a7e4fe0c0465f5b7\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022e0810ed31a8f43cf96c7e21306ff03ad\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e0810ed31a8f43cf96c7e21306ff03ad\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: Before I move to further votes\u2014and we have a number of amendments to go through and to vote on\u2014I point out that voting is a serious matter and I ask that we concentrate on what is before us at the time. The next amendments are a typescript amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to omit the heading to clause 93 and an amendment to subclause (1). These are out order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 93 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201C6\u201D and substitute \u201C1\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022cdd3175f77c1475682d036ac100d44e8\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u00223678a1fb8a734d04a354d954c32cbafb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223678a1fb8a734d04a354d954c32cbafb\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: The next amendment in Hilary Calvert\u2019s name is to clause 93(2) to omit \u201C6\u201D and substitute \u201C5\u201D. This is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision of the Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 93 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Cyears\u201D and substitute \u201Cdays\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022691e8deef0eb4f5b83e092202d763799\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u002270e715f664884ea1aa6ad7f686b20f99\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002270e715f664884ea1aa6ad7f686b20f99\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: The next amendment in Hilary Calvert\u2019s name is to clause 93(2), to omit \u201Cyears\u201D and substitute \u201Cweeks\u201D. This amendment is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision of the Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 93(2) be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit \u201Cresponsible Minister\u201D and substitute \u201CMinister of Statistics\u201D; and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit \u201Ctitle\u201D and substitute \u201Ctitle or w\u0101hi tapu\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00226e72c5c4a9644441a137d0f191a26dc2\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000288\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 93 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000289\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (3) \u201CCrown\u201D in the first place where it appears and substitute \u201Capplicant group\u201D.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00229d1e1c1499c54e2f99efb20ef72c090c\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022c7bc3c623bb84c54930447411e4d9eb3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c7bc3c623bb84c54930447411e4d9eb3\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: Further amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 93(3) to omit \u201CCrown\u201D in each place where it appears and substitute \u201Cresponsible Minister\u201D and to omit \u201CCrown\u201D in the second place where it appears and substitute \u201Capplicant group\u201D are out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. A further amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 93(4) to omit \u201CCrown\u201D and substitute \u201CMinister of Science and Innovation\u201D is also out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 93 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause 4(a) \u201Cmet\u201D and substitute \u201Cmet, and a commitment is made by the applicant group to not prevent free access for individuals and groups of the public\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00222086f1a7f36941d782a912df15e14167\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u002299ecd544ed264f32aecd5a252feee82b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002299ecd544ed264f32aecd5a252feee82b\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: The amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 93(4)(b), to omit \u201Cmet\u201D and substitute \u201Cmet, and a commitment is made by the applicant group to not prevent free access for individuals and groups of the public\u201D, is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 93 be agreed to:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto add the following subclause:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E(5)\tThe responsible Minister, upon receiving application from an applicant group to seek an agreement recognising a protected customary right or customary marine title, must direct the chief executive to, without delay, notify of this application in the Gazette.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00229deb0060684543b8b8c44cc7b286732d\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022997e339c1435448aa867d20ebc4be3a8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022997e339c1435448aa867d20ebc4be3a8\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We have an amendment in the name of the Hon David Parker to omit and substitute clause 94. This is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. Further amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to omit clauses 94 and 95 are out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 96 be agreed to:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (5) \u201Cthis section limits section 10 of the Treaty of Waitangi (Fisheries Claims) Settlement Act 1992\u201D and substitute \u201Cthis Act shall override this section\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002243980b3873364592b934119bd07864b6\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000300\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 97 be agreed to:\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000301\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000302\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201CIf an application for a recognition order raises a question of tikanga, the court may\u2014\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000303\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (1)(a); and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000304\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(b) \u201Ctikanga\u201D and substitute \u201Ctikanga and Maori customs\u201D.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022539559817ed64a9dbe884345fd72704f\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022a75183ea80004252b78cbc106183565e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a75183ea80004252b78cbc106183565e\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: The amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 97(2) to omit \u201Cis binding\u201D and substitute \u201Cis not binding\u201D is out of order as being inconsistent with the principles and objects of the bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 98 be agreed to:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201C6\u201D and substitute \u201C10\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002275375efc132e45c5b828167b1697bd91\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u00221bb6b34bae8544e5b1fbb878047cef7f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221bb6b34bae8544e5b1fbb878047cef7f\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: A further Hilary Calvert amendment to clause 98(2) to omit \u201C6\u201D and substitute \u201C7\u201D is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. A further Hilary Calvert amendment to omit clause 100 is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 101 be agreed to:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from paragraph (c) \u201Cand\u201D and substitute \u201Cand Minister of Maori Affairs and\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002261ee5025cae548ef845dd27b5717d018\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000311\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 102 be agreed to:\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000312\u0022\u003Eto omit from the heading \u201Capplication\u201D and substitute \u201Capplication by applicant group\u201D.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002214a7ea12262248fe8ef827a222e7cee3\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u002233e3388eb85b4b8093bf34692b2bd298\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002233e3388eb85b4b8093bf34692b2bd298\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We have a Hilary Calvert amendment to clause 102(1), to add \u201Cnot later than 20 working days after filing the application\u201D. This is out of order as being the same in substance as a previous amendment. A further Hilary Calvert amendment, to clause 102(2)(a), is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 102(2) be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from paragraph (c) \u201Cdescription\u201D and substitute \u201Cdescription and boundaries\u201D; and \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from paragraph (d) \u201Cperson\u201D and substitute \u201Cperson or group\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022c9e4f1c47aed4e4181bf40f0c76a28ad\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u00220a90389dd4d74f3496fb05772ce96bc1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220a90389dd4d74f3496fb05772ce96bc1\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: A Hilary Calvert amendment to clause 102(2)(e), to omit \u201Cperson\u201D and substitute \u201Cperson or group\u201D, is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. A further amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 102(2)(f), to omit \u201Cdate\u201D and substitute \u201Cproposed date\u201D, is out of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 102 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (3) \u201C20\u201D and substitute \u201C10\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00227c3a7f31d4ff42d089131a5981835cf8\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022c5eac0b89b184ad3bce71dd1bd52926b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c5eac0b89b184ad3bce71dd1bd52926b\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: A further amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 102(3) to omit \u201C20\u201D and substitute \u201C18\u201D is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 102 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (3) \u201Cworking\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022bfb7813cdd014678a86195f52e1fb88c\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000323\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 102 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000324\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (3) \u201Cdays\u201D and substitute \u201Chours\u201D.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00229f39cf555fce45ce9f37a8e309483d43\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022b761f03af7bc4121bdb7d279981d1f04\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b761f03af7bc4121bdb7d279981d1f04\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: A further Hilary Calvert amendment to clause 102(3) to omit \u201Cdays\u201D and substitute \u201Cminutes\u201D is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. A further Hilary Calvert amendment to the heading of clause 103, to omit \u201CWho\u201D and substitute \u201CAnyone\u201D, is out of order as not being a serious amendment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 103 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit \u201Cinterested\u201D; and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit \u201Cby the due date\u201D and substitute \u201Cwithin 7 days of their proposed appearance\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022d612506edb484a879f41a2f80bd259c7\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u002269e6ed6bfe1d46b0948a468d8c76d8c6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002269e6ed6bfe1d46b0948a468d8c76d8c6\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: A further Hilary Calvert amendment to clause 103 to omit \u201Cby the due date\u201D and substitute \u201Cwithin 14 days of their proposed appearance\u201D is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. A further Hilary Calvert amendment to omit clause 105 is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 106 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (1);\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto add to subclause (3) the following paragraph:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E(e)\thas any other reasonable reason to do so.; and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (4) \u201Capplication\u201D and substitute \u201Capplication for the same or any other reason\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00225cc90c7a557141619c12f81fd00fe9ae\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000335\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 107 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000336\u0022\u003Eto omit this clause.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022e52ede89011549c2892c8ef2869a18a4\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u00226ba1a6e56b194bcdb77f173e9bbf721a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226ba1a6e56b194bcdb77f173e9bbf721a\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: The further Hilary Calvert amendments to omit clauses 108, 109, 110, and 111(1) to (3) are out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. A further Hilary Calvert amendment to clause 111(4), to omit \u201Conly by\u2014\u201D and substitute \u201Cby any person or group.\u201D, is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 111 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (4)(a);\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (4)(b) \u201C, if the holder\u2014\u201D;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (4)(b)(i);\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (4)(b)(ii);\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (5)(a);\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (5)(b) \u201Cgroup\u201D and substitute \u201Cgroup and relevant local authority\u201D; and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (5)(c).\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022795f174169f64e01a65748267ef588dc\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u002210fe2d791e6a43c3a9fee8c1902213c4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002210fe2d791e6a43c3a9fee8c1902213c4\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We have an amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to omit clause 113. This is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. A further amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to omit clause 114 is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 115 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Csafe\u201D;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Cmay be kept\u201D and substitute \u201Cmust be kept\u201D;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2)(a) \u201Celectromagnetic,\u201D;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2)(a) \u201Cor process\u201D;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2)(b) \u201Ca\u201D and substitute \u201Ca printed\u201D;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2)(c) \u201Cother\u201D and substitute \u201Cany other\u201D;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2)(c) \u201Creproducing\u201D; and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2)(d) \u201Csystems, or means\u201D and substitute \u201Cor systems\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002294287e4b966e4f0ca24e790961491441\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000357\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 116 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000358\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000359\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Corders\u201D and substitute \u201Coriginal orders\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000360\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Cdocuments\u201D and substitute \u201Coriginal documents\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000361\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Cinspection\u201D and substitute \u201Cinspection, borrowing\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000362\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Ccopies may\u201D and substitute \u201Ccopies must\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000363\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Con payment of the prescribed fee (if any)\u201D and substitute \u201Cwithout fee or charge of any kind\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000364\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Cinspect\u201D and substitute \u201Cinspect, borrow\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000365\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Corders\u201D and substitute \u201Coriginal orders\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000366\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Cdocuments\u201D and substitute \u201Coriginal documents\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000367\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2)(a) \u201Cpaper\u201D and substitute \u201Cpaper or electronic\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000368\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2)(a) \u201Ccopy\u201D and substitute \u201Cor photographic copy\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000369\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2)(b) \u201Ca paper\u201D and substitute \u201Ca paper or optical\u201D; and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000370\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2)(b) \u201Cdocument\u201D and substitute \u201Cor digital document\u201D.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00221d8a22a0ad0b4ecebc1fa7ccce03f736\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000371\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 117 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000372\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading; and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000373\u0022\u003Eto omit this clause.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002230a917523b764ad68efc2d67fe81c07c\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000374\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 118 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000375\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000376\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(a) \u201Cthe\u201D and substitute \u201Crecording and keeping the\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000377\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(b) \u201Cwardens\u201D and substitute \u201Cfisheries officers and wardens\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000378\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(b) \u201Ctermination\u201D and substitute \u201Ctermination, if any,\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000379\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(c) \u201Cwardens\u201D and substitute \u201Cfisheries officers and wardens\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000380\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(d) \u201Cwardens\u201D and substitute \u201Cfisheries officers and wardens\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000381\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(e) \u201Cwardens\u201D and substitute \u201Cfisheries officers and wardens\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000382\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(e) \u201Cidentified\u201D and substitute \u201Cidentified by the public and police\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000383\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(f) \u201Cmanagement\u201D and substitute \u201Cmanagement and remuneration\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000384\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(f) \u201Cwardens\u201D and substitute \u201Cfisheries officers and wardens\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000385\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(g) \u201Cprescribing the fees payable\u201D and substitute \u201Cprohibiting fees\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000386\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (1)(h);\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000387\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (1)(i);\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000388\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201CJustice\u201D and substitute \u201CBroadcasting\u201D; and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000389\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Cmust consult\u201D and substitute \u201Cmay consult\u201D.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022c5d17d22274b4612aaebf8fe6eb6fc23\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000390\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 119 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000391\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000392\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Cof Conservation\u201D and substitute \u201Cfor Biosecurity\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000393\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Call or any\u201D and substitute \u201Call\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000394\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(a) \u201Cexercise rights\u201D and substitute \u201Cexercise, without charge, rights\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000395\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(a) \u201Cthat area\u201D and substitute \u201Cthat area, including w\u0101hi tapu\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000396\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(b) \u201Cthat area\u201D and substitute \u201Cthat area, including w\u0101hi tapu\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000397\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(c) \u201Cconstruction or use\u201D and substitute \u201Cconstruction\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000398\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(c) \u201Cprohibiting or regulating\u201D and substitute \u201Cregulating\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000399\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(c) \u201Cthat area\u201D and substitute \u201Cthat area, including w\u0101hi tapu\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000400\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(c) \u201Cremoval or destruction\u201D and substitute \u201Cremoval\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000401\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(d) \u201Cplacing or deposit\u201D and substitute \u201Cplacing\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000402\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(d) \u201Cprohibiting or regulating\u201D and substitute \u201Cprohibiting\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000403\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(d) \u201Cthat area\u201D and substitute \u201Cthat area, including w\u0101hi tapu\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000404\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(d) \u201Cremoval or destruction\u201D and substitute \u201Cdestruction\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000405\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(e) \u201Cnot exceeding\u201D and substitute \u201Cexceeding\u201D; and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000406\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(e) \u201C$5,000\u201D and substitute \u201C$19.84\u201D.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00220975fe3bf8bf4f0f9e27fe3fdcc47d16\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022d2caf6b9c0e4490dbe0391e2537c0458\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d2caf6b9c0e4490dbe0391e2537c0458\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: A further amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 119(1)(e) is to omit \u201C$5,000\u201D and substitute \u201C$3,000\u201D. This is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 119 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (1)(f);\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Cof Conservation\u201D and substitute \u201Cfor Ethnic Affairs\u201D;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (2)(a); and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (2)(b).\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022bd1b401eb23c47b790346114ed3ffa89\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000413\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 120 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000414\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000415\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Cof Conservation\u201D and substitute \u201Cfor Disarmament and Arms Control\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000416\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Cmay\u201D and substitute \u201Cmust\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000417\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201CGazette\u201D and substitute \u201CGazette and publicly notified by Ministerial press release\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000418\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Cor any of the following\u201D and substitute \u201Cof the following\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000419\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(a) \u201Cprohibiting or regulating\u201D and substitute \u201Cregulating\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000420\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(a) \u201Cor parking of vehicles\u201D and substitute \u201Cof vehicles\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000421\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(b) \u201Cor mooring of vessels\u201D and substitute \u201Cof vessels\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000422\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(c) \u201Cprohibiting\u201D and substitute \u201Cregulating\u201D; and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000423\u0022\u003Eto add the following paragraph:\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000424\u0022\u003E(j)\tfor the purposes of this section, aircraft includes hovercraft.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022a767a364af4643e88c37a783517198ea\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u00229d8e0d3295b54cc28abe68d898fb74a6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229d8e0d3295b54cc28abe68d898fb74a6\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We have Hilary Calvert\u2019s amendments to insert new clause 120(1)(c)(i), to substitute other categories in the definition of \u201Caircraft\u201D. These are out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 120(1)(d) be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit \u201Cnot exceeding\u201D and substitute \u201Cexceeding\u201D; and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit \u201C$500\u201D and substitute \u201C$5\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022e7aab701b47e4ac280ad2255ee88090c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e7aab701b47e4ac280ad2255ee88090c\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: The next Hilary Calvert amendment to clause 120(1)(d), to omit \u201C$500\u201D and substitute \u201C$250\u201D, and the amendment to clause120(2) to omit \u201Cof Conservation\u201D and substitute \u201Cfor Food Safety\u201D are ruled out of order. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 120(2) be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit \u201Cunless satisfied that\u2014\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit paragraph (a); and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit paragraph (b).\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002293260190d8a646b4a3e62a567cb49135\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000435\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 121 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000436\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000437\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201COn and after\u201D and substitute \u201CFollowing\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000438\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Carea\u201D and substitute \u201Carea, access by permission right\u201D; and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000439\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (2).\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022377d82f818114c0da13e4d06f18ade26\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000440\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 122 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000441\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002298734766d75449d69a5690968eaad79c\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000442\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 123 be agreed to:\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000443\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000444\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Cperson\u201D and substitute \u201Cperson or group\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000445\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1) \u201Cin writing\u201D and substitute \u201Cverbally and in writing\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000446\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (1)(a);\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000447\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(b) \u201Cperson\u201D and substitute \u201Cperson or group\u201D;\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000448\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (1)(c); and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000449\u0022\u003Eto omit subclause (1)(d).\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022022de02d796c483483d926b82e04c513\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote  was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022a7523aae74d84d5aae2dc22d6d587b4b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a7523aae74d84d5aae2dc22d6d587b4b\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We have three typescript amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 123(1)(e) to omit \u201Cperson\u201D and substitute \u201Cperson or group\u201D. These are out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 123 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (1)(e) \u201Celectronic mail,\u201D;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Cpost or registered post\u201D and substitute \u201Cregistered post\u201D; and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Cgiven or received\u201D and substitute \u201Creceived\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022dc6a2e46c7e746f89b8639fbb3cea1f8\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000455\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 123 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000456\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201C7\u201D and substitute \u201C5\u201D.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022268f128925e94a889adf61c7b7f94ef3\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u00223c4657882523484a9b579aaeb8749b73\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223c4657882523484a9b579aaeb8749b73\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: Hilary Calvert\u2019s amendment to clause 123(2) to omit \u201C7\u201D and substitute \u201C2\u201D is out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 123 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Cdays\u201D and substitute \u201Chours\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022ac39a37e01c048f7b7fa27a509cf0f7d\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022f3f511637d044225b3f25e9a33cee15a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f3f511637d044225b3f25e9a33cee15a\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: Hilary Calvert\u2019s amendments to clause 123(2) to omit \u201Cdays\u201D and substitute \u201Cminutes\u201D and to omit \u201Cafter the date\u201D and substitute \u201Con the date\u201D are out of order as being inconsistent with a previous decision. [Interruption] Votes are taken in silence.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendment in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 123 be agreed to: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000462\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003Eto omit from subclause (2) \u201Cto whom\u201D and substitute \u201Cor group to whom\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00223296b0b93b5d462d93de90170cc810ed\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendment be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendment not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000463\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the following amendments in the name of Hilary Calvert to clause 124 be agreed to: \u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000464\u0022\u003Eto omit the heading; and\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000465\u0022\u003Eto omit this clause.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022d09a34b291134e5fb559ab51e2c101f5\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 5\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EACT New Zealand 5.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 116\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; New Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; M\u0101ori Party 4; Progressive 1; United Future 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022e26e6bac1c2a465694dae5d391d23759\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e26e6bac1c2a465694dae5d391d23759\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We come now to an amendment in the name of the Hon David Parker to omit clauses 92 to 124. These are out of order as being a direct negative.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002277248d352dab45f296a3021566caf124\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That Part 4 as amended be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 62\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; M\u0101ori Party 4; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 59\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EPart 4 as amended agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00229db09a10c7a1420e826cfee01274cc39\u0022\u003ESchedule 1\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u002228a1eb0381b44ea3832b5770dd094a47\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000468\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002228a1eb0381b44ea3832b5770dd094a47\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We now come to the schedules. Before I put the vote on schedule 1, several people have lodged amendments to omit it. The proper course is to simply vote against this schedule. Are we aware of that? I will say that again. Several people have lodged amendments to omit schedule 1. The proper course is to simply vote against this schedule.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000469\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003ESchedule 1 not agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022ecef5c6d417b4d81859828332601327d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000470\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ecef5c6d417b4d81859828332601327d\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We have an amendment in the name of Metiria Turei to omit schedule 1 as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 206. This is out of order as being a direct negative. We have a further amendment in the name of the Hon David Parker to omit this schedule. It is now out of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000471\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f372aa4ebd8d49329c9cc9dc0b4e8e8c\u0022\u003ESchedule 2\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000472\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Papers 207 and 215 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to schedule 2 be agreed to.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022c993d037676e4dae864d6d46770d9c29\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 62\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; M\u0101ori Party 4; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 59\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022666491709c8d4319985c8e93c48857ae\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000473\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022666491709c8d4319985c8e93c48857ae\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We have a typescript amendment in the name of the Hon David Parker to omit this schedule. This is out of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00226f8f161cdb9740a0b6c233d2b2e66603\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That schedule 2 as amended be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 62\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; M\u0101ori Party 4; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 59\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ESchedule 2 as amended agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000474\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022bf886cd5666b44ffa9dc1d02dc747816\u0022\u003ENew schedule 2A\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000475\u0022\u003EThe question was put that new schedule 2A set out on Supplementary Order Paper 207 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson be agreed to.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022d0afc7e00eb24b92a1fa6448c8912b88\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That new schedule 2A be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 62\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; M\u0101ori Party 4; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 59\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew schedule 2A agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022f25f8ef40ed5485cb24e633d43971ecc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000476\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f25f8ef40ed5485cb24e633d43971ecc\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We have an amendment in the name of Metiria Turei set out on Supplementary Order Paper 213 to omit new schedule 2A as set out on Supplementary Order Paper 207. This is out of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000477\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00223ad2f95fb5a34fd4a81427a3aa168b07\u0022\u003ESchedule 3\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000478\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 211 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to the proposed amendments to schedule 3 set out on Supplementary Order Paper 207 in his name be agreed to.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00225b1049c5dca74edf927c5395f0f38fae\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments to the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 62\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; M\u0101ori Party 4; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 59\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments to the amendments agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000479\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the amendments as amended set out on Supplementary Order Paper 207 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to schedule 3 and the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 211 in his name to schedule 3 be agreed to.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022b0a89d4fc42a4d90aff9c012960f701b\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments as amended and the amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 62\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; M\u0101ori Party 4; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 59\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAmendments as amended and amendments agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u00229e98d1f0637646a297c7e9b405cf69d3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000480\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229e98d1f0637646a297c7e9b405cf69d3\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: We now come to the Hon David Parker\u2019s typescript amendment to omit schedule 3. This is now out of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022f1527c6171934758b2a2412cd378b5b4\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That schedule 3 as amended be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 62\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 57; M\u0101ori Party 4; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 59\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 42; Green Party 9; ACT New Zealand 5; Progressive 1; Independents: Carter C, Harawira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ESchedule 3 as amended agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000481\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00223b6a648924be4be382414b7a6ccd7749\u0022\u003EClause 1  Title\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u0022c2f3ad8c46f444e9997dbb81909ee3b1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000482\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c2f3ad8c46f444e9997dbb81909ee3b1\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Attorney-General):\u003C/span\u003E The Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill has a dual-language title, and may be cited by either the English or M\u0101ori title.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022 data-id=\u0022ae10bf28477f47f4a12004668391de85\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000483\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ae10bf28477f47f4a12004668391de85\u0022\u003EHon MITA RIRINUI (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E K\u0101ti, kia ora t\u0101tou kei roto i te Whare. Kai te Heamana, kai te Minita, ng\u0101 mema katoa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000484\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EBefore I touch on the title of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill, I will take this brief opportunity to acknowledge the quality of the information that the Minister has provided about this bill in the Committee stage, although it is very difficult for members on this side of the Chamber to accept a lot of his explanations in terms of various parts of the bill. However, that is the Government\u2019s position, and it is to be respected.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000485\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EWhat has not been acknowledged in the Chamber throughout this debate is the mistake the M\u0101ori Party has made in taking ownership over this particular bill. It is very important that in the closing stages of the Committee stage I stand in this Chamber and make comment about that. It is our premise that there is no way we can camouflage the issues in this bill by adding a M\u0101ori flavour to the title. The addition of \u201Ctakutai moana\u201D to the Foreshore and Seabed Act will just not sell it amongst M\u0101ori communities, regardless of how the M\u0101ori Party members who have spoken to the bill have tried to sell it to this House, and to the rest of M\u0101oridom.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000486\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EThe Labour Opposition believes that the more appropriate title for this bill would be the \u201CMarine and Coastal Area (Foreshore and Seabed) Re-enactment Bill\u201D. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I myself, the man who is standing in this Chamber and speaking on behalf of the central North Island, from the rohe of M\u0101taatua, Te Arawa, and T\u0101kitimu, would call it the \u201CTe Ao Hurihuri Bill\u201D\u2014in other words, the \u201CBackward Flip Bill\u201D, the \u201CReturn to the Past Bill\u201D, because that is exactly what this bill is attempting to do. It stagnates M\u0101ori customary rights as of 1840, and by and large allows the authority of the Crown, or of New Zealand, to flourish and grow. That is why, when I was asked the question earlier during the couple of days we have been debating this bill: \u201CWhat\u2019s the name of that bill, again?\u201D, I said: \u201CWell, giving it a M\u0101ori flavour just doesn\u2019t do it for me, because to me, kei te hoki whakamuri t\u0101tou [we are going backwards]\u2014in other words, the \u201CTe Ao Hurihuri Bill\u201D; the one that takes us back into the Stone Age.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000487\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EA lot of examples have been given by various speakers in this Chamber about where we think the M\u0101ori Party has gone wrong but is refusing to acknowledge it. We are not here to speak about Part 4, but certainly some members of the M\u0101ori Party, who do not admit to having or acknowledge they have law degrees, have not read this bill properly, and therefore do not understand the implications. As a result, they do not wish to stand in this Chamber and affirm that they have got it right, and maybe Hone Harawira is correct in challenging them on those particular points. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000488\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EFor example, let us take the burden of proof. The burden of proof still rests on M\u0101oridom, no matter how it is worded in this bill. Yes, those rights that have not been extinguished by the Crown will remain, but the Crown can prove that over 75 percent of the coastline of Aotearoa is not subject to protected customary rights because those rights have been extinguished. I will give the Committee an example. In Tauranga, in the Bay of Plenty, Ng\u0101ti Rangi, Ng\u0101ti Ranginui, and Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga had our customary rights extinguished in the period between 1840 and 1865 by way of raupatu, and the Crown can prove that. Actually, we are having a difficult job proving that it did not do that. The rest of the country accepts it, and previous Governments have accepted it, but as we are negotiating our way through these issues we are having difficulty in proving that the Crown acted illegally in our interests.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000489\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003ESo when a M\u0101ori Party member stands in the House and says the burden of proof is on the Crown, I have to tell that member to get his or her head out of the sand and come back to earth. The Crown has no difficulty whatsoever in proving that rights in certain areas of the country have been extinguished. It is the same with Te Arawa and the return of the Te Arawa lakes. Te Arawa had to prove that they not only had had ownership pre-1992 but also had had ownership in the period between 1840 and whenever it was. It was a very difficult and costly exercise for them to go through. I remind M\u0101ori Party members\u2014and Hone Harawira, whom they refuse to name, has attempted to tell them\u2014that they have got it wrong. When they say to make no bones about the fact that this bill is their bill, well, I hope they can stand up without conscience in the M\u0101ori community and say: \u201CYes, we still take ownership of it.\u201D, even though those M\u0101ori communities will have to prove they have a customary interest in their particular areas.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000490\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EMaybe the member Rahui Katene will tell the people from where she comes, at the top of the South Island, that they do not have to prove they had a customary right, and that they do not have to prove that those customary rights were extinguished\u2014because they were. They were. The Crown is currently in negotiations with her people now to compensate them for the loss of those rights. What is it about that that those people do not understand? Members can put all the nice language and legal jargon they like into these bills, but M\u0101ori still have to front up in court to prove their case. What do those members not understand about that? The Crown has no difficulty in turning up to prove that those rights have been extinguished; sometimes these debates can get up to a level where M\u0101ori can practically lose interest in them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000491\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EI think my colleague Kelvin Davis gave some examples of how this issue will affect M\u0101ori, as the rubber hits the road in their communities. Why would any M\u0101ori group make an application for the recognition of customary rights to collect h\u0101ngi stones? Why would they? I had an issue with that in 2004, because it was raised then. Why would any M\u0101ori make an application to the High Court for the recognition of customary rights so they can launch a waka? I had an issue with that in 2004; I have an issue with that now. M\u0101ori Party members had an issue with it back then, but they have refused to admit to that now. Those members should show some consistency. They should be true to their beliefs, and stand up and speak up. They should not do backward flips and try to convince our people that this bill is a good thing, because it is not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000492\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EThere are actually no changes in the bill. There are changes in the words, but the substance of the bill, in terms of the ability of M\u0101ori to prove customary rights\u2014I will use those words again: prove customary rights\u2014means that that is still very, very difficult. The Court of Appeal said that, so what is it about that that those members do not understand? The entire South Island was subject to confiscation, and all those rights were lost. Ng\u0101i Tahu have spent decades on trying to have those rights reinstated. What is it about the member from Te Tai Tonga, and her legal background, that she cannot accept or understand that? I have people in the M\u0101taatua and Te Arawa rohe who have not had the privilege or the type of education that that member has had\u2014in fact, they have struggled with literacy\u2014but they can work that one out. Every time they go to the beach to get pipis, they know that between them they can get one bucket. They know that when they go and dive for kina, they can get one bag. They understand that, even though the codification of those rights totally loses them. That is why I say to the member that when Te Ao M\u0101ori is codified, Te Ao M\u0101ori is removed from the M\u0101ori people. Members need to understand that. When tikanga is codified, it does not matter who makes the decision or who gives the advice; that is the legal precedent, and that is the end of it. What do they not understand about that? I am concerned that that member stands in this Chamber and tries to pull the wool over our eyes, and the eyes of the rest of M\u0101oridom, in saying this bill is good for them, when Te Ao M\u0101ori, as they know, it is slowly disappearing. What is it about that that she will not accept? I had difficulty accepting her arguments in the Chamber this afternoon.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000493\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EI do not often agree with Hone Harawira. Actually, I think he is a bit flighty, and I have told him that many times. But he touched all the right buttons today, and I have difficulty disproving him.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000494\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EAs the curtain closes on this particular debate I wish I had a lot more time to speak, because there are other members I would like to address, such as my whanaunga over there from Ng\u0101ti Awa. What will my cousin say to them when he goes back and tells them he voted for this bill? Will he say there is nothing in it for M\u0101ori, but that they will get to go to court? Will he say that it will cost $200,000, plus their lawyers\u2019 fees, but they will come away with nothing, because they will not be able to meet the test of the burden of proof? As to all those rights that they may say the Crown confiscated\u2014well, the Crown has plenty of evidence to prove that those rights were extinguished.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000495\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002273f60731-048d-4a21-81c5-52d588de2325\u0022\u003EThat is my contribution to this debate. I am very disappointed. I have sat quietly and listened to members make their contributions, but I am very disappointed at the level of ignorance that I have heard in the Chamber today. This is a very simple issue. This is about us, about M\u0101ori people. This is about our customary rights, but the codification of those rights changes them. There is nothing wrong with going to court and arguing our case, but when tikanga, manaakitanga, and all those areas that we hold valuable are codified, then they are no longer ours. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022 data-id=\u00222df3c337606346f1ac2a74feccc9b153\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000496\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222df3c337606346f1ac2a74feccc9b153\u0022\u003EPAUL QUINN (National):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora t\u0101tou. It is a great pleasure to be able to record for Hansard that National has fought the good battle and won, along with our coalition partner, the M\u0101ori Party. It has given us support and shown us leadership on this particular issue, which clearly is a very important issue to this nation. The M\u0101ori Party has been the shining light in this discussion, in this conversation, in this debate. I acknowledge both the leadership and the members of the M\u0101ori Party for showing the way and finding the solution that will last until Parekura and I are well gone from this earth to the gods in heaven. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000497\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003EI also at this stage comment on and address the title of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill. I was going to start my contribution by reflecting on the civility that has descended on this Chamber in this debate today. But unfortunately my taina, my whanaunga from the last speech, Mita Ririnui, has started to take it to the line. He used words like \u201Cignorance\u201D and so on. It was uncalled for. We do not need those words in the concluding stages of this debate. I will set that aside as a little blip from an inexperienced young lad, my younger relation, who is not able to show leadership, as I say. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000498\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003EI will talk to the title of this bill and the commencement date. In my view, the basic difference between the position of the Government and that of the major opposition\u2014namely, the Labour Party\u2014is around issues of codification. I know my good friend and colleague David Parker, in his contribution to the previous part of this debate, made reference to the cost of negotiating settlements as opposed to going to court, but I assure my friend that I have been through both systems. I have been through a court process and I have been through a negotiated process. Let me tell members that the most tortuous process is the court process, without a doubt. Without a doubt, the most tortuous process is the court process. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000499\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003EIn addressing the commencement of the codifications we have put into the this bill, I will read a passage from the Chief Justice in her contribution to the finding in the Ng\u0101ti Apa case. It goes to the heart of the reasons why we need codification. This is what Sian Elias wrote: \u201CI agree with Keith and Anderson JJ and Tipping J that In Re the Ninety-Mile Beach was wrong in law and should not be followed. In Re the Ninety-Mile Beach followed the discredited authority of Wi Parata v Bishop of Wellington \u2026 which was rejected by the Privy Council in Nireaha Tamaki v Baker\u201D. Those cases date right back. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000500\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003EThe point I am making is that if we follow Labour\u2019s solution and leave it to the courts, I have no doubt at all that we will end up down the track, in another 20 or 30 years, with a new, ground-breaking decision by a court. In the same way that the Ng\u0101ti Apa case turned previous case law on its head, it will do exactly the same. I have no doubt that down the track it will lead to a new decision that will take us in a completely different direction. The proposed Labour solution of letting the court decide provides no certainty and no predictability for the people today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000501\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003EThat is what people want. They want to be able to go to sleep at night knowing that the foreshore and seabed is safe, that they have free access, and that they can actually go and recreate. That is what they want to know. In this bill, by codifying, we have been able to place a fence around the issues that the courts should focus on. That is all we have done. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000502\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003EEveryone talks about it. My friends from ACT\u2014such as John Boscawen, whom I must admire for his tenacity, although I say to him to let us just be friends with regard to his contribution\u2014keep talking about M\u0101ori definitions. If they read the bill they would find that almost all the M\u0101ori definitions except for one are actually from other legislation, where case law has already been developed in relation to those terms. The Resource Management Act defines, and has case law developed in relation to, most of the M\u0101ori terms. The bill refers to the Conservation Act, the Historic Places Act, and so on and so forth. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003EI think there is only one\u2014at most\u2014new M\u0101ori term in the bill. In fact, we have had a long discussion about tikanga. I thought about it yesterday; I should have brought my matua\u2019s principled work from Hirini Mead, who wrote a thick book on tikanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220589ed12f56f42f5a62dd1506729013c\u0022\u003EHon Parekura Horomia\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s right.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000505\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022614edbc1937f46809d95a588789e7fc4\u0022\u003EPAUL QUINN\u003C/span\u003E: You probably have a copy in your office, e hoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000506\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c919186bbed24049a3c8ea8af2dcfd98\u0022\u003EHon Parekura Horomia\u003C/span\u003E: We don\u2019t need those in Ng\u0101ti Porou; it\u2019s a living thing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000507\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221f3eeaca8ac6498aad664091ebac9c02\u0022\u003EPAUL QUINN\u003C/span\u003E: No, no. This is for the P\u0101keh\u0101. This is for the P\u0101keh\u0101 so they can understand. I am surprised that my taina did not produce it when he was talking about tikanga. My uncle has written the seminal piece of work on it. It is there for the courts to use as a guide. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000508\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003EI will come back to the point. By codifying, we can place a ring-fence around what the court can and cannot decide. That will be important as we go forward, when this bill comes into force after the date on which it receives Royal assent. Once it comes into place, we will have codification, and that will enable us to go forward as a nation in peace and harmony. We can put behind us the scourge of arguments we have had in this Chamber. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000509\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003EThank you. It has been a great opportunity to contribute to this debate, and I thank the Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022 data-id=\u002293bad2a949714af28e2ee6bc981cf4ee\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000510\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002293bad2a949714af28e2ee6bc981cf4ee\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou. I roto i te t\u016B nei kei te mihi kau ana ki t\u014Dku whanaunga e noho atu i roto i te mahana o te T\u016Bru Kaiwhakahaere o te Whare. T\u0113n\u0101 koe. K\u0101ore e mau atu i te maka k\u014Drero m\u014D i a koe engari, m\u014D w\u0113tahi i roto i t\u014D r\u014Dp\u016B, me r\u0101tou m\u0101, e maka atu i roto i \u0101ku. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000511\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EE mihi kau ana ki ng\u0101 \u0101hua katoa m\u014D te ture nei, m\u014D r\u0101tou m\u0101 e kore i konei, m\u014D r\u0101tou e whai kaha i te h\u012Bkoi tahi atu i te tai i P\u014Dneke, mai i te w\u0101hi o Te Oneroa-a-Tohe, kaha atu r\u0101tou i t\u0113r\u0101 tau. E mihi kau ana. N\u0101, te pai hoki kei te tae tata atu t\u0101tou ki te oti o te ture nei, ahakoa te whakaaro wehewehe i roto i \u0101ku m\u014D t\u0113nei take.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000512\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E[Greetings to us. As I rise I acknowledge my relative sitting in the warm seat beside the Chair of the House. Greetings to you. I do not have anything critical to say about you, but I do about some in your party, and other members. I certainly have something disparaging to toss at them. Greetings to us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000513\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI commend all aspects of this legislation, I commend those who are not here and those ones who have found the energy to march together to Wellington from the Long Beach of T\u014Dhe. They were resolute last year. I commend them. It is wonderful that we have nearly completed the debates on this legislation, even though my views on it differ.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000514\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI was surprised that the member across the other side of the Chamber Paul Quinn dared to suggest that my parliamentary colleague was his taina. I have always known that whakapapa, great as it is, from the maunga Mauao, and I thought he was the taina. \u201CTaina\u201D is \u201Cjunior\u201D. In the sense of the titling of the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill, it certainly smacks of \u201Cjuniorism\u201D, in terms of the suggestions that this bill will be the be-all and end-all. It could be the \u201CHullabaloo Bill\u201D, or the \u201CHow to Pull the Wool Over the M\u0101oris\u2019 Eyes Bill\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000515\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EWe need to go back, in retrospect, and remember that the issue arose of making sure things went to the court. My learned colleague David Parker is dead right. There is a cost to all of this. It is like our youngsters who get into the trap of recidivism. This is just like it. If they sin once under the age of 20, they sin six times, and they get taken to pieces by the legal beagles and those who snuffle in that trough. I hope that will not happen here. In the essence of codification, let us be sure who pays for it and how it is done in relation to all the relevant issues in the parts we have discussed. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000516\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThere are wide-ranging notions in this legislation. Time will tell how we get through it, but let us all be honest and frank enough to say that that will be work over a period of time. For the sake of the member opposite, I tell him that I have no intention of leaving this planet any earlier than him. It is outrageous that he should get so dull as to start talking about that. That is how lopsided the member and some of his colleagues have got. They try to define what time we should leave this planet. It is bureaucracy gone mad! That is what this bill smacks of. The M\u0101ori Party has tried to couch it and it has just become over-endowed bureaucrats. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000517\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThe Prime Minister said in 2003 that he was going to get rid of the M\u0101ori seats, so I was trying to encourage the M\u0101ori Party members to change their vote. As soon as this bill is through, next week he will get rid of the M\u0101ori seats. The difference in this vote is the four M\u0101ori seats. This bill is supposed to support the M\u0101ori seats. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000518\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThe member also mentioned W\u012B P\u0101rata. P\u0101rata is a great name. I have some whanaunga who are named P\u0101rata, but W\u012B P\u0101rata was from another boundary. He said: \u201CFor you may take the land but all you have is the shadow. The land is M\u0101ori, and the soul of M\u0101ori is the land.\u201D That is what W\u012B P\u0101rata said in one of the early challenges. If the member quotes one statement, he should remember the better statements. That statement was one of his better political statements, and that is what this bill should be about. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000519\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EWhere I come from it is paradise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000520\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cc69d050542d4f20b6558d26213f9243\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: Where\u2019s that?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000521\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002211183117e2524edc8cb8607b639f7afd\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: It is paradise\u2014Mangatuna, Houri. It is a great place; beaches abound. Seals still come up on the bank and bathe and there is kai moana and all of that stuff. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000522\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThe issue is that no matter what the law provides for, we have always allowed people access, whether they are P\u0101keh\u0101, whether they come from the ACT Party, whether they are Samoan, or whether they are the local wh\u0101nau. I was down at the M\u014Dhaka River the other day and I asked this guy how long he had been there for. He said he was retired and had been there for 2 months. He said the M\u0101oris had been letting him go there for 40 years. It is not suggested in this bill that M\u0101ori are as advanced as that in intellect, in niceties, in good behaviour, and in hospitality to people who want to visit.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000523\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E I make the point that in some iwi the contiguousness of the land to the takutai moana gives them a real strong inherited right, which most of them have managed well. They do not need anyone to come along and tell them how to behave and why they should do that. That needs to be highlighted and remembered as we go along in this development. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000524\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022df788c48-b9be-42fd-b8f2-76629a5572b8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002212474ddabe714794a9284de0c86b248b\u0022\u003EHon Dr Wayne Mapp\u003C/span\u003E: You are effectively supporting the bill by that statement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000525\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002256b9744229d846f5b9b79edb7f72e8fe\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: No, Mr Mapp, it is different up north\u2014people flog the whenua and all of that. In some areas where there is a congruity of the land to the takutai moana it is as a result of M\u0101ori hospitality, not the hospitality of the court or overseas people. It is the hospitality of those generations who have inherited that right through whakapapa and living there, and that is really important. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000526\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThere is a bit in the bill about h\u0101ngi stones and launching the waka. I do not know who put that bit in there. But anyway, I was listening to my colleague David Parker the other night. We have to be explicit about what will help in this matter. The Minister for the Environment, the Minister of Corrections, the Minister of Women\u2019s Affairs, and Ministers for everything else have a say on this issue. There needs to be some serious balancing. People need to go through the sense of the legislation. In some areas now at Christmas time, when we celebrate the \u201CGreat Being\u201D and whatever else, M\u0101ori like to have a h\u0101ngi, but the Resource Management Act says they cannot light a fire. What is the use of having h\u0101ngi stones if one cannot light a fire? The point is this: there are contradictions in the law and they cut over tikanga and tuku iho. Darren Hughes likes having h\u0101ngi at Christmas. He is well practised in it. But the tikanga as versed in the Resource Management Act says we cannot use those h\u0101ngi stones and that it is no good. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000527\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI remind the Minister today\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000528\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fc220431de3b49128c23c37afc68fea9\u0022\u003ERahui Katene\u003C/span\u003E: The Labour Government could have done something about it during its 9 long years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000529\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002277b83a9ee5654a6ca89a7a9eeb0b334b\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: We did great things. We kept the unemployment rate at 5 percent. It was not running at 27 percent. We made sure petrol prices were where they should be. We made sure people could pay their bills. We made sure people had a job. We made sure M\u0101ori Television started. We made sure the distribution of health services to preschoolers was really great. It was a great 9 years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000530\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ce9d2f164dfe4c6eb3da38d6c59c01bf\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: That member voted for it .\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000531\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aa873b68a23245f68c542aa37b261385\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: And that member voted for it. She knew that we were good. At the end of the day it was a great thing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000532\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e20e198002144a98b7a8ec59c1619239\u0022\u003ERahui Katene\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Chairperson. Relevance\u2014[Interruption] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000533\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002203bc0052-6dd8-4807-998a-4768a4732e0b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022007b0d575a3b4ce39ccde5d808bf8c8e\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker)\u003C/span\u003E: I have called a point of order. The exchanges in the Chamber will stop. There is a point of order. I do not care who started it; everybody will stop.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000534\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e2e2ee61-b3b9-4a89-bcc3-5b7be76c5825\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c7b9926d9bcd4e5ba7467ba27e72830b\u0022\u003ERahui Katene\u003C/span\u003E: I fail to see the relevance of this to the part we are debating at the moment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000535\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002203bc0052-6dd8-4807-998a-4768a4732e0b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c56b88b7862d4ebeba6b796df26713a2\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker)\u003C/span\u003E: The member invited it herself by her own interjections. If the member is going to interject in that manner she will have to expect some contribution back, and the unfortunate part for the member is that the member speaking has the microphone. It is a huge advantage. I say to the member that if she is going to interject, she should calculate that the other person has a microphone and might wander a bit further than she likes. Having said that, I have been signalling to the member with the call that he needs to come back to the point. It is a point well made.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000536\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002242b11a6f8f2d462483b0bc06241b2114\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: Kia ora, Mr Chairperson. T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Rahui. In the early days, when I first came to Wellington to work out what was in the briefcase, I used to go with this great man called John, who was Rahui\u2019s wh\u0101nau. We used to go outside the Department of Social Welfare and protest. He used to tell me to line up out front at 1 o\u2019clock, and we would make sure we put right the crooked Department of Social Welfare and the Government. He was working for them at that time. He would give us the placards and tell us where to stand. I would go and start yelling out for Mrs Bazley, or somebody else, to come out so I could ask them what the hang they were doing. Then I would look around and wonder where the other 200 supporters were. There was nobody. But that M\u0101ori was a great M\u0101ori because he defended tikanga. He did not shudder, or shut up, or go away. I was proud to know him, even though sometimes he would go over to America; he would come back with big Indian belts and give me one. He had international nuances that he knew about. I suggest to that member that I could teach her about some of the things he taught me. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000537\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003ETikanga should not be left to law. Tikanga is something that we have to live and maintain, and we have to ensure it is enshrined in our being. It is not just about kapahaka and t\u0101 moko, which are great things. It is not just about those or about waka ama. They are great things for our young generations to participate in, and they keep going, but tikanga is about living those issues that are relevant to being M\u0101ori. That is all we want to see in this bill: the issues that are relevant to M\u0101ori. We may have to adjust and align but not sell out, and that is really, really important. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000538\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI feel for the 200 who are marching down the road thinking they are going to change the world; by the time they get here the M\u0101ori Party will have signed the bill off. There is nothing to come here for. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000539\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThere is nothing like being a M\u0101ori MP. We get it from the P\u0101keh\u0101s, like that silly woman over there who talked about holding one\u2019s breath under the water and Alice in Wonderland. One wonders where the hang she is; she is writing Peter Pan notions. That is disgraceful and is the extreme of the other people in this country. We get it from our own cousins, our own colleagues, especially if we are M\u0101ori and are used to working as a minority amongst a whole lot of P\u0101keh\u0101s, Africans, and everybody. We get it from everybody. Worst of all, we get it from our own wh\u0101nau. When the h\u012Bkoi came down, I had wh\u0101nau on the other side yelling at me. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022 data-id=\u0022295ec32f713048a5a98e9e67f0912ed5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022295ec32f713048a5a98e9e67f0912ed5\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE (National):\u003C/span\u003E I start off my brief stint by congratulating the Hon Parekura Horomia, because that speech was one of the best I have heard him deliver in the Chamber. It might not have been factually correct, but it was a hell of a speech. He was a pretty half-decent Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs, as well. I cannot say that about his colleagues, though. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000541\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EThe title of this bill is the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill, but maybe the title should be the \u201CApology for the Sort of Stuff that Labour Did in 2004 Bill\u201D. Let us get something straight. I have been sitting in the Chamber for the last 2 or 3 days listening very intently\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000542\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bb9f70cc64794a93852b43b156659d49\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Ha, ha!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000543\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e4469ee884fe4c7586c2082b9a0a626b\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014to the likes of David Parker. When I met him I thought: \u201CThis guy has a lot going for him.\u201D I thought he would be the Labour leader, after Helen Clark. But then we got to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, and on a Friday night at about 5.50\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002235f7be6e4ac54d7c963bd896769e7738\u0022\u003EPaul Quinn\u003C/span\u003E: 5.05.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000545\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022577169cd5d054187b69e4e2aaddba3cd\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: At about 5.05 we were delivered a 500-page document and told we should all read it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000546\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221a8eba73f078470e809d5089eeeba388\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: How was it delivered?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000547\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262407425bf9e4f5c9db9728c00be887e\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: Through the Internet. If anyone of these fellas has a BlackBerry, they should have been able to read it. They should have been able to read the executive summary, at least. I have been guilty of that before\u2014I have read only the executive summary. I do not always read the whole thing, because we have work to do. I concentrate just on the executive summary. But could Labour Party members do that? I would expect one member to have read the executive summary, and David Parker is the one member I would expect to have read it. I did not think that Kelvin Davis would go home and read it, I did not think that Mita Ririnui would read it, and I did not think that Parekura Horomia would read it. I know these fellas; they will leave it to the P\u0101keh\u0101 fella to read. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000548\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221d11867b6c314782a0051c88eba25341\u0022\u003EHon Members\u003C/span\u003E: Ha, ha!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000549\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002220a41c50b73b4569951f11d9070a2fd7\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: That is the truth. So that side was let down; it was let down by none other than David Parker. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000550\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI have heard all sorts of stories in this debate, but I say this to all those people across the Chamber who have been referring to waka jumping, and this, that, and the other thing through this whole debate. I want remind members\u2014in fact I want to school them up\u2014of what was said by Te Kooti, that great Rongowhakaata leader. He said: \u201CIt might be a different waka that we all travel in, but the landing place is the same.\u201D What we got from that was that the Labour members, in their wisdom\u2014in their mind\u2019s eye, that is\u2014put through this House in 2004 a bill that was not particularly good. Fifty thousand people came knocking on the door to tell them it was not a good thing. Within 2 to 3 hours after the Court of Appeal decision had been made, politicians jumped on it and created a mess that they really could not get out of. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000551\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI was heartened to hear the Hon Maryan Street apologise, not once but twice. That is all I wanted. As far as I am concerned, all I ever wanted from the Labour Party was an apology. If that is the apology, I thank the member. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000552\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002267431f57-e958-4c83-b438-7da8061d479e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229518d525dcef4a49be3fd0bdb8fd4ac5\u0022\u003EPaul Quinn\u003C/span\u003E: David was first.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000553\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002241a56a29d87e47a8afcfb00610858d2c\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: David Parker may have been first, but I would rather give it to Maryan. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000554\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221df1917c6bbe4953acf380b06132ca23\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: Are you going to rejoin the Labour Party?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000555\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fd5cc9ca0b7f4bd0ba79c711317a0182\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: Rejoin? What does that mean? To rejoin, one must have been a member. I have never been a member of a foolhardy group. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000556\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022099dae7d25c14108b82b9a368da21613\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: Did the member vote Labour?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000557\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022128e998abcf544a784066bc9190cc4a4\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: No, never. Let me tell members\u2014and I digress, Mr Chairperson, because I have been challenged\u2014that my first voting foray was in 1978 when I voted\u2014[Interruption] Mr Chair?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000558\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002203bc0052-6dd8-4807-998a-4768a4732e0b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea847c3c9c6543c1ba54cc27d747a7f0\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Hon Rick Barker)\u003C/span\u003E: I think I want to hear the answer. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000559\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d0bd1c6d622043ff89d1727aa7a3e048\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: I voted for the Hon Matiu Rata, who was standing as a member for Mana Motuhake, not Labour, in the 1978 or 1979 by-election. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000560\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fa88a8ea0d8649b493a0431f48ab263f\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: No, there was no by-election in 1979.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000561\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cef5164f7d1f476e8d8da43291455032\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: The 1978 by-election?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000562\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e57de08495cc42998dc0b9fe05b068fe\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: The 1978 general election.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000563\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227e90ff0857824e18bfaf03cd206b52b9\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: No, he had resigned his seat. It was 1979.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000564\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220cb1c4af053b4ef49fc3210379031a68\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: 1980.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000565\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002274585078a32347259c17cb3930e82101\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: 1980. That was my first voting foray. So I voted not for Labour but for Mana Motuhake. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000566\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c437bda8-4741-4ac5-89ab-b0818e1ab9fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221cfa996261aa4f63976ca3e504949ff3\u0022\u003EHon Darren Hughes\u003C/span\u003E: Why did he wait till he was 30 to cast his first vote?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000567\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229efa617acf8d488cb58042dc4039413e\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: Ha ha! That was a good one; I will give the member that. But I go back to the bill. I have heard the discussion in the Chamber that this bill is about M\u0101ori this and M\u0101ori that. When we look at the bill, we see that it is about New Zealand. It is about an opportunity for both M\u0101ori and others, Europeans and others, to get it right. This Government has attempted to get it right, and only time will tell whether this bill is the right thing. I believe in my heart that it is. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000568\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI will give some examples of people\u2019s access to the beach prior to the 2004 legislation and after the 2004 legislation, and what will most probably happen after this legislation. There will always be miscreants who will get on the beach and say to people: \u201CYou\u2019re not coming onto my beach.\u201D, regardless of whatever law we have. I bet my bottom dollar that individuals will get up, not representing any iwi or hap\u016B other than their own self-interest, and tell whoever is listening to get off their beach, regardless of whether they have the right to do that. That will happen, and it does happen. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000569\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bf7105ee8cc64377bc2b3169d48e4ae9\u0022\u003EHon Parekura Horomia\u003C/span\u003E: The rich people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000570\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227af67625e3e04308a31627d4577c5022\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: It is not only the rich people; it is\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000571\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222a83c5fb702c4a9bbbb05b596e251d25\u0022\u003EHon Parekura Horomia\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, it is.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000572\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002240c7530aff5548adbd0d7de01485a8ea\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: You know, Labour members have got to get it out of their heads that rich people are stopping us from doing anything. That fact of the matter is that it is most probably the rich people who are damn well looking after the beaches, as we all should be\u2014especially those people up on the East Coast and up in the north, which is my own territory, who continually say to tourists and to people from those areas: \u201CGet off our beaches.\u201D Well, they ain\u2019t their beaches; they are New Zealand\u2019s beaches. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000573\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EThis whole argument is not even about the beach. I tell John Boscawen, briefly, that the problem is not access to the beach. If people want to come to the beach\u2014and I have a plot of land there\u2014they can come and ask. Nine times out of 10, people will allow others to walk over their property to the beach. Access has never been an issue. It was always a red herring. What we are talking about is codifying and putting into legislation the bits and pieces that go with responsibility in terms of the cultural side of things\u2014the tikanga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000574\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI tell members that, like Jerry Matep\u0101rae, I am with New Zealand. I back the majority of New Zealanders, both M\u0101ori and P\u0101keh\u0101, to get on well, to have their barbecues on the beach, to have access to the beach, to protect w\u0101hi tapu, and to protect those areas that mean a hell of a lot to us, not as a people but as a nation. That is what I see in this bill. I am past the time when I could get stuck into those members for that horrible thing they did in 2004, and I accept the apology that they have given. It means a hell of a lot, and I am not kidding. An apology for doing what they did in 2004 means a hell of a lot, but we have to move on, and this is the way that we move on. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000575\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EWith this vehicle we can move on to a better place for New Zealand. Let us deal with the issues of unemployment and economic recovery, instead of getting bogged down in what I term an unholy argument about race.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u0022eb3d731db28b4f7ab415cf2dd8331455\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000576\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022eb3d731db28b4f7ab415cf2dd8331455\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Firstly, I acknowledge the officials, who have been here for a long time this week. I thank them for being here and for the help they gave to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and this Parliament. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000577\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EI will raise a couple of issues. Firstly, I will point out the logical flaw in Paul Quinn\u2019s argument. Paul Quinn said that codifying the relevant tests for the establishment of customary interests settles the issue and will provide an enduring settlement, but I ask how that can be when the M\u0101ori Party, the coalition party that the Government relies upon to pass this legislation, says it disagrees. The reason Labour withdrew from a consensus on this legislation was that it had turned into a fiction. M\u0101ori Party members could not bring themselves to say that they accepted that this legislation was an enduring deal. If they had done, maybe Parliament would have had a different outcome now, and we would just about have unanimity on this thing. The Prime Minister did not go to the M\u0101ori Party and say that the Government needed it to acknowledge this bill as a full and final settlement of the framework for the settlement of customary interests in the foreshore and seabed. It is a failure of leadership, in the view of the Labour Party, on the part of both National and the M\u0101ori Party that they did not get to that point. The objective those members set for themselves was that this bill would settle things. So there is a logical flaw there. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000578\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EThe other thing I thought was interesting in Paul Quinn\u2019s contribution was that he spent the first part of it saying how great it was that the M\u0101ori Party and National were cooperating on this issue. That is interesting, because a lot of people are effectively saying\u2014and they are right\u2014that a vote for the M\u0101ori Party is a vote for National. From the M\u0101ori Party supporters\u2019 point of view, they see that as being a plague upon the M\u0101ori Party house. A lot of other people are saying that a vote for National is a vote for the M\u0101ori Party, and that is being seen as a plague upon National in the eyes of a lot of voters. It is really a plague upon both their houses. In a process sense this legislation is being pushed through quickly, even under the shadow of the Canterbury tragedy and the Christchurch earthquake, because both the M\u0101ori Party and National know those lines are correct; a vote for the M\u0101ori Party is a vote for National, and a vote for National is a vote for the M\u0101ori Party. That is why the select committee process was truncated. Both the M\u0101ori Party and National want to get this legislation off the agenda, because it is a plague upon both their houses. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000579\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EI will also deal with something that the Hon Mita Ririnui said. I thought his contribution in respect of the member for Te Tai Tonga was appropriate. He was not making a personal attack upon her; he was just asking how she could stand there and pretend that the bill delivers what she says it delivers for Ng\u0101i Tahu, when it does not. Ng\u0101i Tahu do not favour the bill. They say the bill should go down. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000580\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227c8ffed6f0e84ec28517aae6133ad1fa\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: She\u2019s not there as a representative of Ng\u0101i Tahu; she\u2019s there as a representative of Te Wai Pounamu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000581\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220f0c6ecd6eed49759fab0199e2a56c5e\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: I agree that she is not here as a representative of Ng\u0101i Tahu\u2014her interests are broader than that\u2014but she pretends that the bill delivers to Ng\u0101i Tahu something that meets their aspirations, when it does not. It most plainly does not. I do not necessarily agree with Ng\u0101i Tahu\u2019s view on what the common law test would be if it went to court. In fact, I do not agree with them, but I do believe they should have the right to explore it, and I do believe them when they say their sense of injustice will last for generations, and will not go away through the passage of this legislation. Mita Ririnui\u2019s criticisms of Rahui Katene were not personal attacks upon her; they were actually just showing that the position she takes is wrong and is ignorant in respect of what the bill delivers for Ng\u0101i Tahu, which is very little, if anything. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000582\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EIn respect of that issue the M\u0101ori Party is hoist with its own petard, because through its\u2014in my view irresponsible at times\u2014rhetoric at one edge of the debate, during the debate on the last version of the legislation it created an expectation amongst M\u0101oridom that would never have been delivered by the Ng\u0101ti Apa decision. The M\u0101ori Party is being hoist with its own petard because it exaggerated to the people it purports to represent an outcome that would never have been achieved. That is not what the law ever said. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000583\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EThe other thing Paul Quinn said is that the legislation makes the foreshore and seabed safe, and everyone can have access to them. That is a return to some of the arguments of the past that I did not like. I acknowledge that in Tau Henare\u2019s contribution he made it clear that access to the beaches has never been an issue in relation to the Foreshore and Seabed Act. That was a fiction put about by Don Brash and other members of National. I have actually read out their contributions in the Committee stage, including Nick Smith\u2019s\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000584\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022369554292d9e4fb9ba25572d7bcd45ed\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: And yours.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227269dfcb66c54504903c36a88dbb6fc1\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, we actually said in this House that access to the beaches was not at risk. We made it absolutely explicit in our contributions that it was never at risk. In fact, we also legislated through the Foreshore and Seabed Act that it was not at risk. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000586\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EI agree with Tau Henare that access across people\u2019s land to the foreshore and seabed is a completely different issue. It has never been an issue in terms of the Ng\u0101ti Apa foreshore and seabed decision. There are places in New Zealand where, as my colleague Parekura Horomia has said, access down to the beach is increasingly difficult. That is a different issue, I agree, but it is a practical issue in parts where some private owners are exercising their property right to exclude others and are stopping people from going across their land in a way that was not the case in prior years. That is not a foreshore and seabed issue, as Parekura Horomia makes clear; it is another important issue. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000587\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EThe legislation has a new name. It is the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill. It could equally be called the \u201CReplacement Foreshore and Seabed Bill\u201D, because it is actually not much different from the original Act. It is not much different. The main difference is that someone who has proved to the court that they have a territorial customary right now does not have to go to the Crown to negotiate to get their rights back; they can get a remedy from the court. That is an important change that Labour agrees with and indeed submitted to the review committee. Yes, the threshold tests are a bit different, but they are not very different. The creation of the new definition of public space as a space that somehow no one owns is a legal fiction. What matters is not whether the space is held by the Crown or held in some other name; what matters is the different rights people have in respect of that space, and those bundles of rights are largely unchanged. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000588\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EI am saddened at the lack of leadership shown by both the M\u0101ori Party and National in not getting us to a settlement. That is the task they set us, and because National was not willing to call the bluff of the M\u0101ori Party and say it could take it or leave it, and because of the unwillingness of the M\u0101ori Party to offer up acceptance that the settlement was fair, we have left New Zealand with uncertainty\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000589\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022df788c48-b9be-42fd-b8f2-76629a5572b8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ff1563aa3d9b4cde9bacea05a7951c6e\u0022\u003EHon Dr Wayne Mapp\u003C/span\u003E: No, you\u2019re the ones who\u2019ve done that by your hype, actually.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000590\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228cb1f79f26e24d19b95806fa69c394ab\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, I tell Dr Mapp that that is not correct. I might quote again what he said in the Committee stage of the last version; he said that large tracts of the foreshore and seabed would not be accessible to non-M\u0101ori. That is something that should stand as a stain upon that member\u2019s record in this House. The reality is that this bill does not settle the issue, because the M\u0101ori Party and National have not been able to reach an accommodation between themselves acknowledging that this legislation is full and final. The Prime Minister has not required that of the M\u0101ori Party and the M\u0101ori Party has not offered it. John Armstrong was right when he made that analysis in the New Zealand Herald. National moved a long way. Labour was willing to move a little way. We did not actually have to move very far, because we were a lot closer to the M\u0101ori Party than National was. But we were willing to move even a bit further than that. The M\u0101ori Party had to move just a little way. It actually had to show a bit of leadership. As Tau Henare said, its members are not here to represent just an iwi interest. We are here representing the interests of all\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022df788c48-b9be-42fd-b8f2-76629a5572b8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c268e341d72e4a0d80d6917831c8bef2\u0022\u003EHon Dr Wayne Mapp\u003C/span\u003E: They actually have shown leadership by their vote today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000592\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224167d74d05ee4846aa7de2b3326d8386\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, they have said at co-leader and senior whip level that they do not accept that this bill is a settlement, and that it is but a first step. That is a failure of political leadership that is bad for this country. The access issues were never an issue. Sadly, this bill should be called the \u201CFailed Attempt at Settlement Bill\u201D. I think it is lamentable, because we got very close. We had the opportunity. Even if one of the Supplementary Order Papers that would flick it all back to the courts had been voted for, that would have settled it, too. There were a couple of ways in which this bill could have resulted in settlement, but it did not occur. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022 data-id=\u00228e22ce883d644471b204fa250b8bf54b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000593\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228e22ce883d644471b204fa250b8bf54b\u0022\u003EHon JOHN BOSCAWEN (Deputy Leader\u2014ACT):\u003C/span\u003E I acknowledge the contribution of David Parker. He has contributed significantly to this debate, both in the House and in the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. Some comments Mr Parker has made this afternoon I strongly disagree with, and I hope to explain that in the course of the next 5 minutes; if not, then on Tuesday. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000594\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EMr Parker began his address this afternoon by acknowledging the officials, and let me reiterate that. I thank the officials in the Chamber this afternoon for their support, and I thank them for their advice. They are always willing to contribute to, certainly, my understanding, and that of the other members of the select committee. ACT members kept the officials and the other staff in the precinct of Parliament last night until after midnight. We are sorry for the inconvenience, but we do not apologise for it. The reason we did that\u2014and I say this to the officials and to the staff of the parliamentary complex\u2014is that we strongly oppose the Marine and Coastal Area (Takutai Moana) Bill. We said we would fight this bill every step of the way. We have done that, and we will continue to fight it next week. We do not resile from the decisions we have taken and the actions we have taken. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000595\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EI will point out why we are right. If people listened to some of the speeches this afternoon, they would understand that. What did we have from Tau Henare this afternoon? He said within 36 hours of the decision from Dame Sian Elias in the Court of Appeal in 2003, the politicians had jumped out and created a mess. The politicians had jumped out and created a mess. He went on to say that this National - M\u0101ori Party Government has attempted to get it right, but only time will tell. Well, what a great contradiction. What Tau Henare has acknowledged this afternoon is that politicians\u2019 interfering in this matter has created a mess. One would think it would be a pretty simple exercise, then, for the National Government to use its majority to repeal the Foreshore and Seabed Act 2004, and to send the matter back to the courts. But, no, it actually wants to add to the mess. National members want to add to the mess and confusion that Mr Henare has accused Labour of creating. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000596\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EThen there was Rahui Katene. In fact, Rahui Katene has made a number of interjections this afternoon that would not have been placed on the record. I want to write those into the record, because the interjections I have heard\u2014albeit quietly\u2014from Rahui Katene this afternoon are absolutely correct. They are absolutely correct, and I believe that this bill is a big victory for the M\u0101ori Party. It is a massive victory for the M\u0101ori Party. As Tariana Turia co-wrote last week: \u201CFor a small party, we have achieved amazing results in a short time.\u201D Rahui Katene, in response to some of Mita Ririnui\u2019s comments, continually called out: \u201CI understand the right to go to court.\u201D Well, I understand the right to go to court, too, and the ACT Party understands the right to go to court.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000597\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EProgress reported.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000598\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EReport adopted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20110317c9a47a16d5474e61a06edfa00249d84a000599\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002277ec6495-df45-43ac-aaa1-a03b5dd4c128\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 5.55 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"