"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f36761ae45db46ad95370c1456a90541\u0022\u003EThursday, 16 February 2012\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ebb32386dd704c77ac950977353f3bb7\u0022\u003EThursday, 16 February 2012\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000002\u0022\u003EMr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000004\u0022\u003EPrayers.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c74122a89d8b4e57bbeb2d2c2ba5d8b3\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022970e2914e03d42eebaf2c70d4d9fd063\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022ae8117352c274366b5d05177b3c302c5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ae8117352c274366b5d05177b3c302c5\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Next week the House is in a 1-week adjournment. When the House resumes on Tuesday, 28 February the Government will look to conclude the Address in Reply debate. The Government will also progress a number of readings, particularly first readings, on the Order Paper, including further progress on the Search and Surveillance Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u0022d49169a003f44d2c9cac1b954d69225b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d49169a003f44d2c9cac1b954d69225b\u0022\u003EHon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour\u2014Hutt South):\u003C/span\u003E Just seeking an assurance from the Leader of the House that no select committees will be sitting during the National Party maiden speeches this afternoon.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u00221f8f39921c3a4ef9bcd5d5d5275f1418\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221f8f39921c3a4ef9bcd5d5d5275f1418\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Not to my knowledge. If there is something happening that I am not aware of, the member might want to talk to me off-line about that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022822f26f7603c452fa2bd18b139647fc8\u0022\u003EQuestions for Oral Answer\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00226581b0379e6c4edc91b55decf82cfe01\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00223ee8cc1001f74bc5bb5f5673e60f1b0f\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 1 to Minister \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022 data-id=\u0022552f28b6b0894f3f98b516baece61579\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022552f28b6b0894f3f98b516baece61579\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader\u2014NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave to have this question moved down to below question No. 12 so that the Prime Minister will have a chance to answer it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dd4763af7a484d78bc79b8239d483f93\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought to have question No. 1 relocated to below question No. 12. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c4c5fb1ae5c14538bf424fc7aae1aee4\u0022\u003EOverseas Investment Rules\u2014Judicial Decision on Sale of Crafar Farms\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022 data-id=\u002242e57dc76f724012a74bf0da4ec0988c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002242e57dc76f724012a74bf0da4ec0988c\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader\u2014NZ First)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Has he had time to read and digest the judgement of Justice Miller regarding the Crafar farm deal; if so, does he stand by his comments made in the House yesterday?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022cc220863083e494785a3910e97d411f5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cc220863083e494785a3910e97d411f5\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Prime Minister: He has read the judgment and he stands by his comments.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a4d23e6c72e84097978b1896eeb171ab\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: To which law was the Prime Minister referring when he claimed in the House yesterday that the law\u2014and to use his words\u2014\u201Cdoes not allow Ministers to reverse OIO advice\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022168acb3d37604bf5b461dbc58d794e1b\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: I think what the Prime Minister was referring to was the requirement that all Ministers act within the law, and that the expectation that the advice coming from the Overseas Investment Office would, in fact, be within the law.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225cfd2d3d18a34cba9b32b59f8dbcc3f1\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: That was worse than yesterday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228175380fc05542faa4b6edab0f44ed27\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226189ac5e6d564ed28bf682c9d42ce28c\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Why did the Prime Minister yesterday argue that the Ministers Jonathan Coleman and Maurice Williamson should rely on the same view as the Overseas Investment Office?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002276ff802848734d378a789460fcfb6467\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: The expectation of all Ministers is that they should be able to rely on the advice of their officials. In relying on that advice, they come to their own conclusion, within the law. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002257e6e20352a7438682df73cd1453c89a\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Do the two Ministers not have their own officials? That being the case, what scrutiny independent of the Overseas Investment Office\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ffb76041bfbe4d49a8c15752685e2d34\u0022\u003EHon Christopher Finlayson\u003C/span\u003E: Stupid question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f4c9171445724aa2866817fd97c587f1\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I will say it again very slowly for the so-called learned gentleman down there\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e150a8dc18e442adb3593cd118f6c629\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e01fae4387b745369eee41d709c13a6f\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: But you heard what he said.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002222342b5a1baa4527a5665a917b9f70b6\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! I am on my feet, and that will be the end of any further interjection. I get to my feet to stop this childish backwards and forwards across the House. I say to the honourable gentleman on my right that such interjections do not exactly help with good order in the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002205655506d35a49e691f12f47d2cf181d\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: What scrutiny independent of the Overseas Investment Office did his Ministers apply to the Overseas Investment Office report on the Crafar purchase?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c77be655ff7640359e90cd4300c42349\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: The Prime Minister would expect all Ministers to exercise their judgment based on the advice that is put in front of them. It is patently obvious that all those decisions are reviewable. That is why we are in this situation now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002211b5f5948ce04ccc9117cacf78669e51\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. We are not going to get anywhere if we are going to get that sort of answer. I asked whether the two Ministers concerned had got independent advice, independent of the Overseas Investment Office. That is what I want to know.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022615e181e490e4feb823575f52b2c62d7\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: In the circumstances I will allow the Rt Hon Winston Peters to repeat the question he asked, to make sure everyone understands exactly what it is.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228b56b26c53774d1e8612b8b10fcfad4b\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: What scrutiny independent of the Overseas Investment Office did his Ministers apply to the Overseas Investment Office report on the Crafar purchase?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226743381cf51a4a9bb9866a0603db172a\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: I doubt that is the first question word for word. However, what I would say again is that the Prime Minister expects all Ministers to exercise their judgment based on the information that is provided to them by their officials. Their officials, in many cases, are not aligned to the Overseas Investment Office.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022974ddb7ae6c6487bad76c92e35828f36\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I got the Prime Minister\u2019s answer, but the question asked of him was did they receive, or did they seek, any advice independent of the Overseas Investment Office. That is pretty simple.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022da1d28113c7d4d869dde46403130fadc\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The member is correct; his question did exactly ask that. In his answer the Minister referred to advice from the officials. Although he did not specifically say the Ministers received advice from their own, independent officials, I picked up that from his answer. But if I am wrong there, he had better correct me. It seems that that is what the Minister intended.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e5ade31d0cef4edd95fae1e5c7acfb48\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Did the legal test always require the benefits from overseas ownership to be substantial and identifiable?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fc63b490e1484bb1ab5dbad22b156448\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: What I understand is that is the case, but it is the way in which that conclusion was reached that is the contention, and, ultimately, the judgment that has come down. So instead of that test\u2014better before or after\u2014it is now with or without. It is a fine technical point. The judge makes that clear. He has also invited Ministers to reconsider it on that basis, which they will do.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bd0cadb7e5e0435da6099b1c0e7d7b68\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Why did the Prime Minister ignore section 17 of the Overseas Investment Act in response to a question in the House yesterday asking how he had arrived at the view that his two Ministers, to use his words, had no discretion at all?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bf08195204e14a348200f6333d9b8c82\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the first point is the Prime Minister has no responsibility in this case directly, and he was correct in saying that his Ministers were appropriately following advice given to them by their officials, assessed and judged by themselves. The point is that the decision, in any event, has been reviewed by the court, and the court has made a recommendation about a reconsideration, and that will take place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d90a193d5e1f48c38b780de8f2637ba4\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Is the reality not that the court did what his Minister failed to do: it applied the economic benefit test and found no identifiable evidence that the overseas buyer would produce any substantial benefit to New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229a50036282d4497f90cfa99e8dd4bea0\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: The test applied by the Overseas Investment Office was the same test that it used to advise a former Minister, the Hon David Parker, in his decisions on these matters. The question is should the test be applied on a before or after basis, or on a with or without basis? The court has ordered it is with or without, and has invited Ministers to reconsider, and that is what they will do.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eb49ee66-7ca7-472d-a4a1-b099fd594dfa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227d6f06fade9844f297f6ad2f89e6bcba\u0022\u003EDr Russel Norman\u003C/span\u003E: How were the Ministers able to exercise their judgment in this case, while at the same time following the Prime Minister\u2019s direction that they had no discretion?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ba4bf79b8952483a99a0fd55c0cae256\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: I think the point is that all of these decisions are reviewable, and, on the evidence put in front of the Ministers, it was patently clear, using the before or after test, which has now been decided is inappropriate, they had\u2014[Interruption] It was decided that, on the before or after test, asking the questions that are required through the four points inside that particular part of the more than 20 points that have to be considered in the test, they had exercised their judgment appropriately.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d0d4850a061d4f2297a0f7315bed3656\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Can I ask the Prime Minister as to why the public should not assume that the two Ministers in question took the view that the Prime Minister keeps on defending, which is that they had no discretion at all, and therefore applied no independent thought or judgment at all, and just rubber-stamped the Crafar deal?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bd40aca4035c488483bfee7b8dd2cda3\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: The Ministers have acted totally appropriately. They were entitled to believe that the advice they had got from their officials was consistent with the advice that had been offered over the previous 7 years. For a large number of those years the member himself was supporting the Government in those decisions. It was never a problem when he was supporting the Government; apparently, it is now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002235aec1abe8684aec93353a52292b3739\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. He cannot go on to a personal attack of me when it is well known that he and others got rid of New Zealand First and Winston Peters because we were stopping their\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002222a5bc1aabb247aab0d17eac45a178c6\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The right honourable member knows that is not a point of order, under any guise whatsoever. It was successful, though, in stopping the Minister\u2019s answer. I presume the Minister, therefore, has finished his answer. Yes, he has finished his answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eb49ee66-7ca7-472d-a4a1-b099fd594dfa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b897c085b69e42aa96f984f024c2bfa6\u0022\u003EDr Russel Norman\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Prime Minister have any other concerns about the way the Overseas Investment Office is carrying out its functions, in light of comments this morning from the director of the Overseas Investment Office that in applying the economic benefit test they never take any account of the economic downside or economic detriment that might result from foreign investment, such as an increase in the current account deficit?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c210e7989304eb1a7e8ebc49d18c221\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: No. They have applied the law appropriately for 7 years, and have got to a point where one small aspect of the tests that were put in place all those 7 years ago does need to be reconsidered in a different light\u2014so going from before and after to with or without. I would ask why it is that after, you know, 7 years of this Act being operative, suddenly those who were party to passing it are so very concerned\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bfaa49bdb215463e9ce28671f114e2ef\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! That is sufficient.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eb49ee66-7ca7-472d-a4a1-b099fd594dfa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eca1424fb494406c9186b7e4aeb1f84e\u0022\u003EDr Russel Norman\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Prime Minister now accept that those of us who have opposed the operation of this system all along, such as the Green Party, have been absolutely correct to oppose it, because the Overseas Investment Office has been incorrectly applying the test, as Justice Miller pointed out in the judicial review?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222ded69e4e23b4ad2992351e05e032158\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: Justice Miller has made that point, and Ministers will act within that judgment for any future applications and for the reconsideration of this application. Other than that, the Overseas Investment Office has operated inside the bounds that were prescribed in the law by a previous Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002270ee3caf16804866b945d42797d345d3\u0022\u003EOverseas Investment Rules\u2014Sale of Crafar Farms\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u002288fdb5541d9c46f5a87c180727229209\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002288fdb5541d9c46f5a87c180727229209\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Land Information: Does he believe he and the Government have conducted themselves competently and appropriately in relation to the decision to approve the purchase of the Crafar farms by a foreign buyer; if not, what did they do wrong?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022 data-id=\u00228527ed09fcd74ca8a9a5d3dd2153907d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228527ed09fcd74ca8a9a5d3dd2153907d\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (Minister for Land Information):\u003C/span\u003E Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002295cd13b4bf3046a4b5bebaffaf45fee6\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Why did the Minister say on several occasions that he had to approve the sale of the Crafar farms to Shanghai Pengxin under the New Zealand - China free-trade agreement, when the High Court found that the Overseas Investment Office\u2019s written advice to him was the opposite? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cd122b084dbc4d0ba1cdc6f22f5202ae\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: Because, as I think the Hon Gerry Brownlee told the House a few minutes ago, for 7 years under both a Labour and a National Government the before and after economic benefit test was the test that the Overseas Investment Office used\u2014on the James Cameron application or the Shania Twain application or any of the others that have gone through it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f95ac3d36fd84f7faaf929a4923c2497\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Very interesting, but my question was why he used the cover of the Chinese free-trade agreement\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221b8ad9c841954bbfb492b2ae89f59fe3\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The member may repeat his question. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002269e50c407d37431385ea6385fce2dde4\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Why did the Minister on several occasions say that he had to approve the sale of the Crafar farms to Shanghai Pengxin under the New Zealand - China free-trade agreement, when the High Court found that the Overseas Investment Office\u2019s written advice to him was the opposite? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222ddac08800f44ac8961e13da8bf4133c\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: Because we were applying the test we believed to be appropriate\u2014the one that had been used. The fact is that Ministers\u2019 decisions are subject to judicial review, just like the Hon Chris Carter lost in the courts over the Whangamata waterways, and\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea9d03fb35874c5096d47c133dca5198\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The Minister has still not addressed the issue\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b5392b474f894b72b4bc6dbae42e833e\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I hear what the member\u2019s concern is. The question specifically asked why the Minister had said, allegedly on more than one occasion, that he had to approve the deal because of the New Zealand - China free-trade agreement, which has nothing to do with the previous practice under the Overseas Investment Office, because the New Zealand - China free-trade agreement is relatively recent. That is the bit, I think, because the question covered only that issue. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222a9130d9053540139614163530ac9cd8\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: I can be helpful. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a3220c63c5d148e0a12ee9a3561be2b7\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: If the Minister can be helpful, I will be very\u2014[Interruption] Order! If the Minister can be helpful to the House, that is great. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022033ffe46d21d41a0b20c1f61652f6a48\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: I said in the House in question time on Tuesday that this application and its processes went through, regardless of whether we had a free-trade agreement with China or not. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022761d8dfaf6d64f2ba7907f58de9f43c6\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Why did it take 9 months from the time of Shanghai Pengxin\u2019s application to his erroneous decision? Was it because it took that long for the Government to stitch up a deal involving Landcorp? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b0cd7155f1b24222b17e6a20769cc29e\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: It took that long because the Overseas Investment Office wanted to get all of the relevant information it needed, and it went back to the applicants on a number of occasions to further get that information. I am pleased that the office took the right amount of time, and did not try to rush it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022478cec2b41b2428e9dc19adcf403d614\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Can the Minister give an assurance to the House that at no stage did any Minister of the Government or any official from the Overseas Investment Office tell any party that they were delaying their decisions until after the election? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220ab64aeeee4a47e987920a59c3c16936\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, that is not what happened, and I most certainly did not say that; I do not think I can speak for every other human being there is. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b13982a180e4426aae7d9b7ff5ee49f5\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Supplementary question, Mr Speaker\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222e75b396ea8e4c039c852f889f635722\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: What has happened here is that I have just been told by the Hon Trevor Mallard that the Labour Party is giving a further supplementary question to the Rt Hon Winston Peters. These are meant to be advised to the Speaker prior to the start of question time. However\u2014[Interruption] Order! I do not want to be difficult, but I just ask members in the future, please, to make sure that the Speaker is advised of these things a little more in advance than at the moment that members get to their feet. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002251acb9b06dec4e4996c4bc22e86a78a7\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I apologise for the late notice. It will be obvious to everyone that the answers are the reason for\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fddabb5136664cb980ba3e6629bb2361\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! That is not an acceptable point of order either. It was barely much better than the one we heard not so long ago. It was just being used to criticise another member of this House, and that is not allowed under the point of order process. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bd6b550c77d1485b852f97ba5e395246\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I apologise, Mr Speaker. I will get you notice, next time, much earlier, but it was the nature of the question. I want to ask the Minister this: if he is explaining the proper due diligence done by the Overseas Investment Office on the issues he talks about as taking 9 months, why then did it take over 12 months for the same office to determine that May Wang and Jack Chen were of good character, when one phone call to the Shanghai or Hong Kong stock exchange would have told them otherwise? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220f9624c969e143ac9bc59554720df8b9\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: I do not know whether I can ever comment on the process that the Overseas Investment Office goes through. It took its time to make a determination about the bid. And in the case of Natural Dairy\u2014the member will be pleased\u2014the Overseas Investment Office recommended that the Government not approve it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022dbbbbbf2f1494023a26279e12b59a346\u0022\u003EEconomy\u20142012 Budget Policy Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022 data-id=\u00220f74b31ba6e04ddd80d4f4e367b021b9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220f74b31ba6e04ddd80d4f4e367b021b9\u0022\u003EJONATHAN YOUNG (National\u2014New Plymouth)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: What reports has the Government issued on the economy?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022 data-id=\u0022885bed92db5a41f5b3c62953a026d442\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022885bed92db5a41f5b3c62953a026d442\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE (Associate Minister of Finance)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister of Finance: The Government has today issued the Budget Policy Statement for 2012. It confirms the Government\u2019s clear and comprehensive economic plan for the next 3 years, which will make our economy more competitive so it can fulfil its potential. Within this plan the Government has set out four main priorities to help achieve this. They are to continue to responsibly manage the Government\u2019s finances by returning to surplus and keeping debt under control; to continue to implement economic policies that build a more competitive, export-focused economy; to deliver better public services to New Zealanders within a tight fiscal Budget; and to rebuild our second-biggest city, Christchurch.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b3f17379bdf2422db46cf1abb6786f3b\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: How will the Government\u2019s economic plan be reflected in Budget 2012?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aef413021330482eb6dd2d16eaf0f432\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: As the Budget Policy Statement says, Budget 2012 will be, first and foremost, about sticking to the Government\u2019s economic plan. It is important that we do that to build a stronger, more competitive economy that supports more sustainable jobs and higher incomes, and ensures that New Zealand starts to pay its way in the world. Indeed, the Government\u2019s Budget priorities throughout this parliamentary term will be about sticking to that plan.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221305a27d1f6148de8ea87fa764f319da\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: What does the Budget Policy Statement say about the outlook for the New Zealand economy?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022295dab17eaec4348b13cde3463fbe127\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: The Budget Policy Statement sets out some updated forecasts from Treasury. They show that New Zealand\u2019s economic outlook, although somewhat weaker than forecast in the pre-election update in October, remains positive. Our terms of trade are expected to remain high. Our largest trading partners, particularly China and Australia, are among the stronger-performing countries in the world. And the rebuilding of Christchurch will provide impetus to the economy in coming years. However, there is a risk that events offshore, particularly in Europe, could have a negative impact on the New Zealand economy. The Government continues to monitor those events closely.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ca6fbaaabb9545f5a9dcf6b127e66c59\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Budget Policy Statement show a rising current account deficit, as well as higher Government debt and lower growth in the coming years than were promised by National during the election?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002244550e5510dd4842a81e48721cb677d8\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: The Budget Policy Statement does show a worsening economic situation, which has a negative impact on the balance of payments and one or two of the other matters the member raises. And that has effectively caused, as stated in the Budget Policy Statement, a delay to the Canterbury rebuild, brought about by the additional seismic activity and also the more troubling clouds in Europe in the economies over there. So those things all have an impact on the predictions in this particular statement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222fa6b4ba01eb4877b714417cf83bbb4c\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: And how is the latest economic outlook expected to impact on the Government\u2019s finances?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002267ab82da9841452eb28fc00d6bd3a71a\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: The Budget Policy Statement forecasts show that the Government remains on track to post a $370 million surplus in 2014-15, to keep net debt below 30 percent of GDP, and to reduce this to 20 percent of GDP by 2020-21. Given the events in Europe and the weakened outlook for global growth, this forecast is understandably smaller than was forecast in the pre-election update, but the Government does remain on its fiscal track to surplus. It will, however, require disciplined control of spending and tight management of our capital allocations. For example, we have conferred net zero capital allowances for each of the next five Budgets, requiring new investments to be funded from capital freed up from the balance sheet rather than by additional borrowing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228ac7300872034b8f8ff92c8c9369dabc\u0022\u003EBenefits\u2014Work and Income Case Management Approach\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022 data-id=\u0022ad4d318050294a9fa00bf27d362c897d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ad4d318050294a9fa00bf27d362c897d\u0022\u003EJACINDA ARDERN (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Social Development: Does she have confidence that Work and Income meets their own \u201Ccase management approach\u201D expectations?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022 data-id=\u00226763c6ff339d4d549e8eec92ef0d9745\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226763c6ff339d4d549e8eec92ef0d9745\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS (Associate Minister of Social Development)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Social Development: Yes. Work and Income deals with 147 million transactions a year. That is 2.8 million transactions a week and 403,000 transactions a day. The Minister believes Work and Income staff work very hard and she backs them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002257a864431c9346e38fc9765a7a5b4a90\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: Does she believe the level of support a sole parent on the domestic purposes benefit can access in order to move into work or education is sufficient?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002292971c6bad454ec4b3d8e3a6dada283b\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: Yes; there are a number of benefits and assistance packages that women on the domestic purposes benefit, or anyone on the domestic purposes benefit, can access in order to get into education. It depends on which level of education they wish to access as to how those benefits will be applied. But they are available, for instance, for university study in the form of student loans and allowances; for lower-level qualifications\u2014levels 1, 2, and 3\u2014that they are seeking, they can still receive the training incentive allowance.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224c793268309a4aa88f83fb748fc4f497\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: How much can someone on the domestic purposes benefit who wants to move into education, and who has one dependent child and no income, receive per hour per child to assist with childcare?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002244c2c3c93df74685a1b33635d89cb75d\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: It is a very precise question, given the primary question, but as I understand it a person on the domestic purposes benefit with one child is able to receive the normal domestic purposes benefit. She may well be entitled to accommodation supplements on top of that. She is also entitled to early childhood education and childcare allowances on top of that. She is able to receive student loans in respect of meeting the fees for each paper, and also a $1,000 grant for course-related costs.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002210f01bb67bca4b9f8a64784a0d7ea9a4\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: I seek leave to table the details of the childcare subsidy, which states that the mother shall be\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a69c2b4ca179475baa551ec4b8065245\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Before we go into that, what is the source of this document?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022903088ff1af3441aaa246f7237c72f1c\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: It is available publicly, but given the Minister was unable to answer the specific question\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221e64b5565df740af88648f46f4716ac4\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! That was just grandstanding; we do not do that under a point of order. Silly me! Let me reword that. We should not do that under a point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002213554bf9ec4c481b808c3372a48ace6f\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: What is the difference in support a solo mum with one dependent child and no income will be eligible for if she wishes to study and approaches StudyLink versus if that same solo mother went to Work and Income, and why is there such a difference?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a99940aa9d034823a1539620a5ca06de\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I call the Hon Chester Borrows, in so far as he is able to give an answer, in the breadth of the primary question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d78a3d8e7a9a44dfb7cfd5aa6a843679\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: I would draw attention to the breadth of this question away from the primary question, which related to expectations of people approaching a case manager at Work and Income.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002293191db2cd02404a8008fd35b1349548\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The original question obviously relates to an issue of the day, where Work and Income have given inadequate advice to a domestic purposes benefit mum, and part of that was her getting very different advice from both StudyLink and Work and Income. So all of this does relate to the adequacy of the advice that Work and Income staff\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e47f5d6bd7004ce1b1d6704f7b758c38\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! My advice to the member is, if she wants Ministers to have that kind of detail available to answer questions, make the primary question more clear. With all respect, this primary question is very broad and it is not reasonable to expect that the Minister could have that level of detail, given that primary question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b0f00d9c0f324565ac9545635d698fa5\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: To what does she attribute our status as having one of the highest rates of unemployment for sole parents in the OECD, next to Turkey and Malta: a lack of willingness to work, as her welfare reform package implies, or the barriers to work, as the reality suggests?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221ec805677bac417b9dff8aa92964c44a\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: The finding on New Zealand\u2019s provision of services to people wishing to study who are in receipt of a domestic purposes benefit, in respect of other OECD countries, was not made by the Minister but in fact by an independent organisation. It is interesting to note that there is lots of assistance available to sole parents. Even without the training incentive allowance, there is extensive support available for domestic purposes benefit recipients studying at tertiary level, including interest-free student loans, student allowances, childcare subsidies, the accommodation supplement, out-of-school care and recreation subsidies, 20 hours\u2019 free early childhood education, temporary additional support, special-needs grants, and so on, and these are not available in many other countries.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ab2ec0f9c4f441e5b79d4cd37d78ced1\u0022\u003EBenefits\u2014Effect of Training Incentive Allowance Changes\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022 data-id=\u00224582f2a027304c128e02495886e1d58a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224582f2a027304c128e02495886e1d58a\u0022\u003EJAN LOGIE (Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Social Development: Does she have concerns that changes to the eligibility for the Training Incentive Allowance are causing single parent beneficiaries to consider working in the sex industry?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022 data-id=\u00226651f56aab2147e48efd1d4ce9563206\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226651f56aab2147e48efd1d4ce9563206\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS (Associate Minister of Social Development)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Social Development: No.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c8a5e26812b343698d796c0b6cb8c8f8\u0022\u003EJan Logie\u003C/span\u003E: Does she think it is fair that single-parent beneficiary Tania Wysocki is reluctantly considering sex work to cover the cost of travel and childcare associated with her high-level veterinary nursing degree, whereas these costs would be covered by the training incentive allowance were she studying for a lower-level course?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220419f4f30ac14a64998c9bc551ecf8ed\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: I find it very difficult to accept that somebody is forced into prostitution in order to study. People may have to choose between earning an income through work, and studying. There are no easy options for a solo parent, but there is considerable support available, as outlined in answer to the previous question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229700d17e32164c52834af722a747e824\u0022\u003EJan Logie\u003C/span\u003E: Does she accept that the childcare subsidy offered to Tania Wysocki does not cover the full costs of childcare, whereas the training incentive allowance would meet the additional costs beyond the subsidy?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224fe55333eac34a04a7529447721c9d73\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: Ms Wysocki was quoted in an article from the New Zealand Herald, and the subsidies available to Ms Wysocki are not those quoted in the New Zealand Herald. The reporter was given an indication of those subsidies orally; he chose not to write them. It is important to note that Ms Wysocki receives the equivalent of a salary of $43,000 a year plus her entitlement to 20 hours\u2019 early childhood education. I think most New Zealanders would find that an equivalent salary of $43,000 is sufficient, or at least reasonable.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ad1abf0a30a7480db146bc198901d076\u0022\u003EJan Logie\u003C/span\u003E: Does it concern her that it took a visit with Tania\u2019s local MP, Paul Hutchison; a letter to John Key; unanswered correspondence with the Minister\u2019s own office; multiple conversations with Work and Income; and, finally, media attention for Tania to receive her full benefit entitlements, and that even then this offer of assistance is not enough to keep her from considering sex work as a way to make ends meet while studying?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022089b5a26a71442939f70f6fadff3d7f2\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: I refer to my answer to the previous supplementary question as to the level of assistance Ms Wysocki is getting. I also need to indicate that a Work and Income employee, in giving out advice as to what level of assistance an applicant can be given, is constrained by the information given by that applicant. We understand that once the full details were known as to the hours of study that she needed to do, her ability to obtain childcare was raised from the 9 hours originally offered.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002254df7a26f7d64220b2171386b6e29b31\u0022\u003EJan Logie\u003C/span\u003E: Do you accept\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ec4798dbc65d444c917a0ce70747e311\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! No, no, questions do not ask \u201Cdo you accept\u201D; they\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eb7f0d22b22045e0a584e9730e1dae95\u0022\u003EJan Logie\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, OK\u2014sorry. [Interruption] No, I am just\u2014[Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f70e1267ac534336b8330277daf8eeac\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Be reasonable.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226e5180539078416abcb75beeb7a696ee\u0022\u003EJan Logie\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister accept that Tania is financially worse off studying without receiving the training incentive allowance?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022361ac3672555402e8b445452341bb237\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: The training incentive allowance has been redirected to those people most in need. What we do know is that half the women on the domestic purposes benefit have not achieved a level of education of National Certificate of Educational Achievement level 1 or foundation course skills. So we have redirected the training incentive allowance to those people to get the best results for the investment of the taxpayers\u2019 money.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225f35af9e2456430cbc7d9ddcba7f228e\u0022\u003EJan Logie\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. It was a direct question: is she financially worse off without receiving the training incentive allowance\u2014a yes or no question. [Interruption] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b66d477530a94cadb7527cb88cba1339\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order, I say to members! Please, I am on my feet. If I heard correctly, the member asked whether or not the Minister believed the person in question was worse off without the training incentive allowance. That is seeking an opinion. But it would be helpful if the Minister did refer to the difference between someone in her position having, in theory, a training incentive allowance and not having a training incentive allowance, rather than giving the reasons why. The Minister is giving the reasons why the Government chose, it seemed to me, to redirect the training incentive allowance; that was not what the question asked. It is seeking an opinion, there is no precise answer, and we will not insist on yes or no. But it would be helpful if the answer did refer to the question asked, which is to do with whether the person is better off or not. It was even hypothetical\u2014whether they would be better off or not with the training incentive allowance. Some reference to that would be helpful.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220bd66018f6494cf6a630339c8d2f1264\u0022\u003EJan Logie\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Just to clarify that my wording was \u201Cto accept\u201D\u2014and I do think there is a differentiation between \u201Cbelieve\u201D and \u201Caccept\u201D\u2014and it is around a point of fact.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228d5bc9e6b3604e248221f499fd99f2c3\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I apologise. But it is still seeking an opinion. The member asked whether the member accepts that someone is worse off. That is not what she said when she repeated her question. When she repeated her question she said: \u201CIs such-and-such worse off?\u201D, whereas she acknowledges now that her original question was: \u201CDoes the Minister accept \u2026\u201D, and that is seeking an opinion. But it would be helpful if the opinion did bear some relationship to the question asked.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022242242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f66f8f237ed64a1a8edc4aa10e2a05f9\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: The Minister does not accept that this particular applicant is worse off under the new rules in respect of the training incentive allowance. The Minister believes that the Government assistance she receives and the assistance she could apply for leave her in a very healthy position in terms of extending her own education.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00223ea2e7cc3f8a4c6ca208195453d53b21\u0022\u003EDistrict Health Boards\u2014Results of Collaboration\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022 data-id=\u00223eae6351287441df989217402e9cbc00\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223eae6351287441df989217402e9cbc00\u0022\u003EDr CAM CALDER (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Health: What improvements have there been to services for patients as a result of greater collaboration between District Health Boards?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a83ea07a-806c-45ad-95bb-eb2c481cd0e2\u0022 data-id=\u002229a1867c5e0b4fc994250062a0768642\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a83ea07a-806c-45ad-95bb-eb2c481cd0e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002229a1867c5e0b4fc994250062a0768642\u0022\u003EHon TONY RYALL (Minister of Health):\u003C/span\u003E The Hutt Valley District Health Board and the Capital and Coast District Health Board have been working together to provide faster access to magnetic resonance imaging for their patients. In March last year, I am told, there were 760 patients waiting longer than 6 months to have routine magnetic resonance imaging at Wellington Regional Hospital. That waiting list has now been completely cleared and no one is waiting longer than 4 months. More scans are now being done at the Hutt Hospital and an after-hours radiology registrar has been provided there instead of relying on services from Australia. This is a very good example of what can be achieved when neighbouring district health boards work together.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227e0e0af50fb94b6f817472389a2835d1\u0022\u003EDr Cam Calder\u003C/span\u003E: What improvement has there been to waiting times for ultrasounds in Wairarapa?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a83ea07a-806c-45ad-95bb-eb2c481cd0e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220a92dbae6bdb449fb3a0e9cb8e6f30b7\u0022\u003EHon TONY RYALL\u003C/span\u003E: The Hutt Valley District Health Board and the Wairarapa District Health Board have worked together to reduce the waiting time for ultrasounds from 9 months last year to less than 2 months today. Additional clinics provided at Hutt Hospital have cleared the backlog, and now a sonographer is travelling from the Hutt Valley to Masterton for a clinic 1 day per week. This more efficient service sees fewer cancellations, less rebooking, and more certainty for patients, and is a very good example of district health boards working together to provide faster services for patients.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002234b4800324834408b93aa28b02a50476\u0022\u003EState-owned Energy Companies, Sales\u2014Crown Shareholding\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022 data-id=\u0022fc4758a88c6e4af095e50940971f58c3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fc4758a88c6e4af095e50940971f58c3\u0022\u003EHon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for State Owned Enterprises: Does he still intend to sell 49 per cent of the four State-owned energy companies?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a83ea07a-806c-45ad-95bb-eb2c481cd0e2\u0022 data-id=\u002225b56d85c5104969b6347966fe57dd78\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a83ea07a-806c-45ad-95bb-eb2c481cd0e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002225b56d85c5104969b6347966fe57dd78\u0022\u003EHon TONY RYALL (Minister for State Owned Enterprises):\u003C/span\u003E The Government\u2019s position has always been that it would sell up to 49 percent of the companies and so would retain at least 51 percent ownership. The Government\u2019s intentions remain subject to market conditions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002295213d675f4643b3be84493238133153\u0022\u003EHon Clayton Cosgrove\u003C/span\u003E: Will the Minister now give an absolute guarantee to New Zealanders that the Crown\u2019s stake in the four State-owned energy companies up for sale will never fall below 51 percent?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a83ea07a-806c-45ad-95bb-eb2c481cd0e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002252259340d471412aad37de0848aa9251\u0022\u003EHon TONY RYALL\u003C/span\u003E: I think we can give more than the guarantee of the Minister. That is the intention of the legislation that the Government intends to introduce\u2014to give an assurance that the Crown\u2019s ownership will not fall below 51 percent.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002258198c22f11b49a4aff3127389384b65\u0022\u003EHon Clayton Cosgrove\u003C/span\u003E: In light of that answer, could he outline whether, in the event of the companies needing more capital, the Government would borrow and/or use additional taxpayers\u2019 funds to ensure that the Crown\u2019s stake never falls below 51 percent? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a83ea07a-806c-45ad-95bb-eb2c481cd0e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002279d6fd2537924f049c82da3d8a2af5db\u0022\u003EHon TONY RYALL\u003C/span\u003E: That would be the Government\u2019s intention: if there was additional capital required for the company and it made sense for that capital to be raised, the Government would bring forward its contribution. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222a9e9496fc1d4e3797c0cd1be5683538\u0022\u003EHon Clayton Cosgrove\u003C/span\u003E: If the revenue from the asset sales is less than the Government\u2019s estimated $6 billion, which its stated intention is to use for the so-called Future Investment Fund to offset debt, will the Government be forced to borrow additional funds to make up that difference? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a83ea07a-806c-45ad-95bb-eb2c481cd0e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229e7f57e3686a4b138de3b790ab40bf6e\u0022\u003EHon TONY RYALL\u003C/span\u003E: The member is asking whether if the sales proceeds do not reach $6 billion, we would borrow money in order to make up the difference to pay back the money and the debt that we are trying to reduce? No, the Government is expecting, and has been working within, a range of $5 billion to $7 billion resulting from the asset sales. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002286f657daf2df4448806ef3e8d4f69c81\u0022\u003EHon Clayton Cosgrove\u003C/span\u003E: Why has the Government only now woken up to the fact, via Mr English\u2019s comments in the media in the last 24 hours, that there is a high risk of its 51 percent controlling interest being diluted, when a Treasury report entitled Extending the Mixed Ownership Model, dated 4 March 2011, warned that if the Government wants to keep its majority stake then \u201Cany further raisings will require Government participation to avoid dilution\u201D? Does that not fly in the face of the Prime Minister\u2019s comments that the reason for the asset sale float was because the Government could not afford to put extra capital in?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a83ea07a-806c-45ad-95bb-eb2c481cd0e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229e09fde2a5d34e6faa2d2ef1f3322a9c\u0022\u003EHon TONY RYALL\u003C/span\u003E: There is nothing new in this point. I was in a select committee and Mr Norman from the Green Party asked me that question, I think, in the middle of last year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022687d386591c04293aaa047c744f5cb8e\u0022\u003ELocal Authorities\u2014Rates Increases Since 2002\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022 data-id=\u0022e7500610ed5849468da36f3b7cfd77fc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e7500610ed5849468da36f3b7cfd77fc\u0022\u003EJAMI-LEE ROSS (National\u2014Botany)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Local Government: What analysis has he received on rate increases across New Zealand\u2019s 78 councils following the enactment of new local government legislation in 2002?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022 data-id=\u002297842739785546dfa4e7f24fabca45d7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002297842739785546dfa4e7f24fabca45d7\u0022\u003EHon Dr NICK SMITH (Minister of Local Government):\u003C/span\u003E The analysis shows that the national rates bill has increased quite dramatically, from $2.3 billion a year to $4.2 billion a year, or by 7 percent compound per annum. Inflation over these years has been 3 percent per annum. The increases range from as high as 13 percent compounded per year for some councils, to the lowest of 4 percent compounded per year for others. None of the councils were able to keep the increase over that decade to the rate of inflation. The fact that these rate rises dramatically increased under the enactment of the new local government legislation in 2002 raises questions about the negative impacts these reforms have had for both households and businesses.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022558813de4b4b43ccb97a06052cb02a13\u0022\u003EJami-Lee Ross\u003C/span\u003E: Has the Minister seen any reports from 2002 where the Government assured businesses, farmers, and householders that the changes to the purposes and principles of local government would have no impact on rates or costs, and given what has transpired since, what economic impacts have these changes had?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ca167e0373d54a208ef02dd6d305f67b\u0022\u003EHon Dr NICK SMITH\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, I have seen reports. Strong assurances were given by the previous Government, in fact, that there would be big cost savings from those changes in 2002. The fact is that the average rate rise in the decade since has been 6.8 percent, as compared with the decade previous of 3.9 percent per annum. If the rate increase had continued at the previous rate, rates would be costing the New Zealand economy today $1 billion a year less, or a saving of $500 per household. As a consequence of these figures, the Government is reviewing those 2002 changes, because ongoing cost increases of this order are not affordable and will negatively impact on New Zealand\u2019s economic prospects.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002282d49adddc03406386470bb0749ce20f\u0022\u003EEarthquakes, Canterbury and Christchurch\u2014Extension of Red Zone Offer to Retirement Villages\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c186d0a2-99f4-408b-9b4d-d484cf19724d\u0022 data-id=\u0022cfca2f28dfc44521bebfad6ccff3c405\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c186d0a2-99f4-408b-9b4d-d484cf19724d\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cfca2f28dfc44521bebfad6ccff3c405\u0022\u003EHon LIANNE DALZIEL (Labour\u2014Christchurch East)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Canterbury Earthquake Recovery: Does he stand by the part of his statement of 27 January, announcing the extension of the red zone offer to retirement villages, that letters of offer would be sent to each resident and CERA would work with village owners as quickly as possible to ensure the residents are assisted; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022f0cd1b12cb2140e49450276538ec98dc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f0cd1b12cb2140e49450276538ec98dc\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Minister for Canterbury Earthquake Recovery):\u003C/span\u003E It was always the Government\u2019s intention that red zone offers would go to residents. Receivables from the sale of retirement villages to the Crown must be applied to exit payments to residents via a statutory supervisor as a priority over any other person, including the owners, so that the residents\u2019 interests are protected.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c186d0a2-99f4-408b-9b4d-d484cf19724d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228a06922ba9174e4683223258105b50cd\u0022\u003EHon Lianne Dalziel\u003C/span\u003E: Why was the wording of the media statement, which said a letter of offer would be sent to each resident, changed to the one now on the Beehive website, which says that an offer to each owner will follow, and was that designed to cover up the humungous blunder, as one person has described this communication of this policy?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c9568ef753f7482fb84090d3799347e3\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: No, it is because the legalities around this mean that the owners of the rest home own the property\u2014have the title to the property. The residents, in the cases we are generally talking about, have a licence to occupy. So by law\u2014by one law\u2014the settlement is with the owners, but, as I said before, receivables from the sale of retirement villages to the Crown must be applied to exit payments to residents as a priority over any other person, including the owners, so that the residents\u2019 interests are protected.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c186d0a2-99f4-408b-9b4d-d484cf19724d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002249f229e51a334e7ca518763269784a92\u0022\u003EHon Lianne Dalziel\u003C/span\u003E: How has he responded to the son-in-law of one of the former Kate Sheppard Gardens residents, who was advised by his colleague Kate Wilkinson that the Government was not about to make Lance Bunting a rich man, and that the Government was going to look after the residents, in light of the statement from his own office to Kate Sheppard Gardens\u2019 statutory supervisor that there is no wider policy decision providing for top-ups above contractual obligations for residents?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226048e3c9d918411c9fcbbda6ebdd5622\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: My advice is that the rest home that is mentioned by the member in this question has effected exit payments with all of its residents bar a few, who are still waiting to have their situation reviewed, and that it is currently\u2014my advice is\u2014a matter between the residents and the owner. But by and large the particular owner you mention has settled with his residents, unlike another owner, who has the expectation of an $8.712 million settlement from the Crown and $5.2 million worth of obligations to his residents, but is enlisting the help of some MPs to see whether he can wheedle more out of the Crown.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c186d0a2-99f4-408b-9b4d-d484cf19724d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a029abc820af429fa312dfc96eef6ae2\u0022\u003EHon Lianne Dalziel\u003C/span\u003E: Can the Minister confirm the advice that I received from the Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Authority that residents do get the first call on any money that legally goes to retirement village owners\u2014that it is like being a preferred creditor, as they get first call on any money that is passed to the rest home owners\u2014and will he actually apologise to all of those people whose hopes have been raised and dashed again with the announcement that he will not provide for the residents to be looked after in this matter?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002250333ee67b054221a17225912125f6c6\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: I repeat for the third time: any payments made by the Crown for the sale of rest homes or retirement villages must be applied to exit payments to residents via a statutory supervisor as a priority over any other person, including the owner, so that the residents\u2019 interests are protected. That is exactly what the member has asked for, it is what we are doing, and there is nothing to apologise for.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c186d0a2-99f4-408b-9b4d-d484cf19724d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002251e8c5d2fd2443c499ad752a76cf6b0e\u0022\u003EHon Lianne Dalziel\u003C/span\u003E: I seek leave to table a number of documents. The first is the press statement from Gerry Brownlee referring\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227524c98186aa48c7923df77f9a89e857\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! We do not table\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c186d0a2-99f4-408b-9b4d-d484cf19724d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c696fa1c64124766a49cd81a08fc5736\u0022\u003EHon Lianne Dalziel\u003C/span\u003E: Excuse me, there have been changes to the wording from the website\u2014[Interruption] I am sorry, Mr Speaker, but I am not putting it\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225b5185dd53d64d6aa369aa4c4fdc3c4b\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! We do not table press statements in this House. The member has other ways of getting her information out in the public if she wishes to. Tabling documents in this House is to provide members with information, and press statements are not part of that package. There are plenty of other mechanisms for the member to get her points out in the public, if that is what she wants to do. But the procedure for tabling documents is not a procedure for making political points. It is a procedure for providing information to members that they would not otherwise have available to them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002270e0f507554a4413ae2eacd1120062a4\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dba8df20688340d7ac92951b67727482\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, the Hon Gerry Brownlee\u2014I am sorry, the Hon Trevor Mallard. [Interruption] Order! I apologise, indeed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b5cf5044f62a465cb6387f2418bac9b2\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: It is not the worst thing that has happened today. [Interruption] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221649162002c840dab310e22e4ca71e8b\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! I want to hear this point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002272d598fe6860421d9f85688b0d5597ca\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I think it is a relatively important point, and I think you outlined very clearly the reasons that press statements are not tabled in this House, and that is because they are otherwise available. The point that my colleague was beginning to make, and was about a sentence off finishing, was that this press statement is no longer available, because it has been taken down and changed on the Minister\u2019s website. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dfdd077dd9dc46479b9bebeae1627ea4\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Presumably the press statement was available to all members.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002227274bde657b41cb832e0d948602d4d3\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: But it is not now available to members.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c1dcd81a37ac41e0a06c5fc54a3ec15d\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I will leave the matter for the House\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b6a104696a644f6aa697e11cdc4cd94c\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Speaker\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262d1faacf6e94b4e923ac44ed3f07405\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, the House can decide. I will leave\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022719afb1427a84036b3b195e60f0444eb\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: I would like\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b9f321780367413ab306db4090ce8fef\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I will hear the honourable Leader of the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bd92b61b1577456abc0ca565d33b3d47\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: I am prepared to put my original press statement up on TradeMe with a \u201Cbuy now\u201D price. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227218d00dc4384373aada4f841b3c6979\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e69a2fee8f5446208d3a4e0c2550dfcf\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, no. I am not going to have any. I guess several members have got away with points of order today that are not points of order, and I blame myself, but I guess there has been some humour around all of them. I will leave the matter for the House to decide. I will let the member describe the documents. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c186d0a2-99f4-408b-9b4d-d484cf19724d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022625b4f38995a4f6fb32522025359f243\u0022\u003EHon Lianne Dalziel\u003C/span\u003E: The first is the original press statement, dated 27 January 2012, which referred to a letter of offer going to each resident. The second is a summary of the SMS text messages with the Canterbury Earthquake Recovery Authority where I was trying to get details of the red zone retirement village announcement, as the advice I had had from the press was different from the statement I had received from the Minister\u2019s office. The third is a letter to the Hon Gerry Brownlee, dated 6 February 2012, making him aware of the frustration their family feels at having a family member resident at Kate Sheppard Gardens, and the last document is the email from Peter Orpin, statutory supervisor for Kate Sheppard Gardens, explaining that he had spent several hours researching the matter and regretted to inform that the additional funds would not be forthcoming. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226a45275c2b584460a49b29edde27f9d9\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought to table those documents. Is there any objection? There is no objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003EDocuments, by leave, laid on the Table of the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a712c8f855a64a06865cc700cd86d2fc\u0022\u003EOverseas Investment Office\u2014Meeting with Chinese Consul\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022eb49ee66-7ca7-472d-a4a1-b099fd594dfa\u0022 data-id=\u0022d729055d8131448199aea3be25323306\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eb49ee66-7ca7-472d-a4a1-b099fd594dfa\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d729055d8131448199aea3be25323306\u0022\u003EDr RUSSEL NORMAN (Co-Leader\u2014Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Land Information: Did Overseas Investment Office officials meet with Chinese political consul Cheng Lei late last year; if so, did they discuss Shanghai Pengxin\u2019s bid for the Crafar farms?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022 data-id=\u00223c318dd6939d44b1a084d37f122a627a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223c318dd6939d44b1a084d37f122a627a\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (Minister for Land Information):\u003C/span\u003E I am advised that officials from Treasury and the Overseas Investment Office met with Mr Cheng Lei on 8 August 2011, which could hardly be described as late last year. Officials did not discuss the Shanghai Pengxin bid for the Crafar farms. The purpose of the meeting was to provide Mr Lei with an understanding of New Zealand\u2019s overseas investment laws. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eb49ee66-7ca7-472d-a4a1-b099fd594dfa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226ec11ec1732b4c658574242c108fb315\u0022\u003EDr Russel Norman\u003C/span\u003E: Does he consider that his officials should have alerted him to the fact that a senior Chinese Government official was meeting with the Overseas Investment Office, the very body that is tasked with providing recommendations on bids like the Shanghai Pengxin bid?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022179f40bfbf3d4dd1af4649380539192b\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: If those Chinese officials had raised any one specific bid with the Overseas Investment Office, I would have expected it to have informed me. But given that the briefing was just on our general overseas investment regime, so that the Chinese delegate could be well versed on it, there is simply no need to be briefing anybody.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eb49ee66-7ca7-472d-a4a1-b099fd594dfa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c6bf235e2744456f8bcb0caf8868463e\u0022\u003EDr Russel Norman\u003C/span\u003E: Is the reason why the counsel for the Overseas Investment Office raised the issue of the New Zealand - China free-trade agreement and the implications of the Shanghai Pengxin bid for that agreement connected with the meeting with the Chinese consul?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f9259f15edfa4c389d9f01559ab8f481\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: No.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219bcf2ff-a193-4361-9072-813a4e36683c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225245ec569e6547a5b5af334a6ea14ebe\u0022\u003EPeseta Sam Lotu-Iiga\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister have any examples of other high commission or embassy staff requesting such briefings from the Overseas Investment Office?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ecfd3bb54e634f5dbf6f8c936b02b756\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: I do, and, more important, can I say that under section 31 of the Act, which is headed \u201CWhat regulator does\u201D, it is actually made clear that the Overseas Investment Office must make itself available on request to explain the regime. I am very happy to say that on 8 June of last year some people from the Australian Senate, from the country where Russel Norman originated, made a request for it to do it, and then some of his countrymen from the Australian bureau of agriculture requested such a briefing on 21 June last year, as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228604deca4de34f2abe839d1697c8a6b3\u0022\u003ENZ On Air\u2014Release of Documentary Name\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022 data-id=\u00226ca7f7cfb152499b9794317b43b7ecc7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226ca7f7cfb152499b9794317b43b7ecc7\u0022\u003ECLARE CURRAN (Labour\u2014Dunedin South)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Broadcasting: What is the name of the documentary which was withheld in the papers released publicly by NZ On Air titled \u201CRecords of decisions made at working group meeting\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022 data-id=\u0022ac52007b358546b8a9e44f778bf941a4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ac52007b358546b8a9e44f778bf941a4\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS (Minister of Broadcasting):\u003C/span\u003E I understand the documentary in question is still under development with the broadcaster, and decisions are still to be confirmed about whether it will proceed or receive funding from New Zealand On Air. I have not been made aware of the details of this documentary, and it would not be in the public interest for me to provide details, because of the commercial sensitivity around decisions still to be confirmed by the board of New Zealand On Air.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227903005c9ba540639a6cb1602866f1f6\u0022\u003EClare Curran\u003C/span\u003E: Who made the decision to withhold the name of the documentary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225531db95d6fb4c408fd3f58bbdf17a58\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: As pursuant to this question, I will just repeat my first answer. If the member is referring to the Official Information Act request tabled the other day, that Official Information Act request was to New Zealand On Air, I believe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ba75a25c486e4a0ebd5e3f43710ca2f3\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. It was a really simple question: who made the decision to withhold? It had nothing to do with the OIO.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022321485060ee04b9e9a5be02e100aed90\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The OIA. The member still makes a valid point. [Interruption] Order! This is an important issue. The Minister has indicated that there are issues of public interest around this. However, the member asked who made the decision to withhold the name of the particular programme that was deleted from a document. The Minister may not have that information, but it would be helpful if he made some reference to it in his answer. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b5903c13c58841c8b670e377adf6d03c\u0022\u003EHon Gerry Brownlee\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I would just like you to reflect on the line of questioning that has been going on on this for some days now. Increasingly those questions are starting to require the Minister to have ready knowledge of operational issues. That is simply inappropriate. I think to uphold questions that need answers that would require the Minister to have such operational detail is quite outside the understandings of how the separation between governance and the entities themselves works.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c65df05c33a04c37b42953fd41e4ff34\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! I appreciate the concern of the member, but Ministers in relation to entities like New Zealand On Air do have a responsibility to answer questions. Although they are not accountable necessarily for operational matters, they have a responsibility that enables them to be questioned on those matters. I accept that in this case the Minister may not actually have that information. If he does not have that information, there is no reason why he would necessarily be expected to have that information, because it is an operational matter, presumably. He may not have that information, and that would be a perfectly reasonable answer if he did not have that information. If he did have the information, he may consider it to be delving into a matter that is still commercially sensitive. When you have a range of commercial programmes under consideration by New Zealand On Air, there may be commercial sensitivities around releasing any information about those. As to whether that is a matter of public interest, the Minister is the best person to judge that. There are a range of answers that are available to the Minister, but I think the question was in order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002227231df83d7f4f2f8ac32d822f42ca3b\u0022\u003EHon Gerry Brownlee\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I would ask you to perhaps review that offering to the House at a later point, and, if necessary, come back to us, because I do not think it would be appropriate for members of this House to be able to ask details of police operations, or, for that matter, some military operations, or, perhaps, about the Security Intelligence Service, or any range of other things. It also would mean that many Ministers would need to know quite considerable and extensive details about the operation of State-owned enterprises, for example. So there are sort of bounds under which ministerial responsibility is exercised, but it does not go right down to the daily operation\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fcda0c2715fa4119b7e601c3bb38df4c\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I apologise to the member, but I disagree with what he is asserting here. I refer him to Speakers\u2019 ruling 157/4: \u201CThere is no convention that Ministers are not answerable for operational matters;\u201D. The Minister may not have information on operational matters, or he or she may consider it not in the public interest to give detailed information on operational matters. But that does not preclude members from asking questions about operational matters, and, as I outlined before\u2014I am trying to be helpful to the House\u2014there are a range of answers available to the Minister. He must, of course, be truthful to the House, but if it is not in the public interest to reveal certain information, operational information, that is the Minister\u2019s judgment, and the House cannot second-guess that. But to preclude members or prevent members from asking questions is not within the Standing Orders at all. So much time has expired, so I invite Clare Curran to repeat her question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022709e57a7401b4ea384f71801d75dca36\u0022\u003EClare Curran\u003C/span\u003E: Who made the decision to withhold the name of the documentary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225a46d5756af340a9b68f0263f8409c3b\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: If it is referring to the point in the primary question, that was a document released under the Official Information Act by New Zealand On Air, so I presume the answer would be pursuant to whoever signed out that Official Information Act request to the member or whoever requested it in the first place. I do not know who that person was.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002209a5b71a-ca7e-4e7c-9e09-f9e63f18aa12\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022951e3dc6a44a4c47a512574d464b0012\u0022\u003EHon Annette King\u003C/span\u003E: He doesn\u2019t know much at all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a8337ab24cc3497aa89a0f6fcf3b277e\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002285643e60e9be47de9c424f524c257867\u0022\u003EClare Curran\u003C/span\u003E: Given the four documentaries released under that Official Information Act request from New Zealand On Air are listed together, who makes the decision to fund documentaries from New Zealand On Air? Is it the board that makes the decision to fund documentaries; if so, why is it that the name of the withheld documentary cannot be released?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002280950f6bcce6420ba9cf505688dc7222\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: In respect of my primary answer, the general construct is that the Crown funds New Zealand On Air, the board of New Zealand On Air; New Zealand On Air has longstanding working groups and processes that decide themes and contestability, etc. for national programmes. They call them working groups. It is within that process that the members and those they engage with from the sector decide the content or the general direction of whatever programmes they end up funding.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226f88cf3ee1974eaab906bdc5783b4343\u0022\u003EClare Curran\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I have been trying to get the Minister to answer direct questions for a number of days. He gives\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002295f233b0557f4457bd4a22d174a6fbb2\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! It is not an appropriate way to start a point of order with: \u201CI have been trying to get the Minister to answer direct questions \u2026\u201D. Forgive me, but I did not observe the last question to be a particularly direct question. But the Minister did answer the question. The Minister pointed out that these working groups are involved in making decisions, and he is not involved in them, and he did not go as far as, perhaps, to identify the final decision-making person, but I think it was an answer to the question. The quality of it can be judged, but then the quality of the question can also be judged by members of the House. The member has further supplementary questions available.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224ea722faf980461caef025282b0eb660\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Would it be ethical for Mr McElrea, the chair of the Prime Minister\u2019s electorate committee, who works closely with MediaWorks on these four documentaries, to tell the Prime Minister the topic of the documentary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d3ffd4de779413496c109a2172cebf8\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: I have full confidence in the board\u2014the members of the board. They all operate under the Crown Entities Act 2004. I note that I also operate under the Broadcasting Act 1989, which prohibits me or any Minister to give any direction in respect of any programme or content.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b8dd9758df5d434584805fe0aba89a05\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I think it was a pretty direct question: would it be ethical for the board member working with MediaWorks to tell the Prime Minister, whose electorate committee he is the chair of, the name of the documentary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220a66351835804ababcc8f1e51f753754\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The member is really making an allegation\u2014it is either a hypothetical question or an allegation, I am not sure which. But there are no precise answers to hypothetical questions, and let us assume it is a hypothetical question\u2014let us put the best interpretation on it. The Minister has indicated that he has absolute confidence in the board and its members. I presume that confidence includes that it will behave ethically. As it was a hypothetical question, I do not think we can press the Minister too much further on that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d66630119a7f4a96936b6e4466147400\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The point I am trying to work out, Mr Speaker, is whether it is ethical or not, and we cannot tell from that answer whether it is the Minister\u2019s view that passing it on\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022952453fdf45e4fcc893a6d381b300039\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member, though, is, I presume, posing a hypothetical question: were a member of the board to do that. The Minister is indicating that he has confidence in the board, and I presume that includes that it will behave ethically. Clearly, the Minister is not prepared to get involved in the detail of what might be, in his view, ethical behaviour, compared with the requirements of the board under the Act. I do not think I can press the Minister further on that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bb72f1be59ff4eb28204d6933938dbec\u0022\u003EClare Curran\u003C/span\u003E: How many conversations or representations has he had with the chair of the board on this matter, have they discussed the content of the documentaries, and was the name of the documentary that has been withheld mentioned during those conversations?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fdcdcc37a5364379b373a223e9c73479\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: I think there were three questions in there. I have regular meetings. I met with the chair initially as an initial meet and greet. I think we have had an update since then. Pursuant to the point of the primary question, I have not had discussions with the chair of New Zealand On Air, but let me just take this moment to thank the chair of the New Zealand On Air board\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002274442a9148a4476f8dce2af9099c723e\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The question was three separate questions. The Minister can answer any one of them. The first one, if I recollect correctly, asked how many conversations he had had with the chair of the board of New Zealand On Air, the second asked whether he had discussed the nature of these documentaries with the chair of New Zealand On Air, and the third asked whether the name of this particular documentary was mentioned in those discussions. The Minister can answer any one of those, but he should be able to answer that question, because the Minister would know whether he has talked about those matters, and the Minister has responsibility for what he talks about with the chair of the board. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222a8b955e0b3a4621be520127d552d2c7\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: I have normal conversations with the chair of the board, as normal, on a range of matters about New Zealand On Air. We might have had a general discussion about this particular issue, but there would have been one or two conversations\u2014nothing particular to this particular issue whatsoever. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a5782a608ba1475e9f60c6e80e7e199a\u0022\u003EEvents, Major\u2014Legislative Protection\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022 data-id=\u0022abe558df288346b788157604619c731f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022abe558df288346b788157604619c731f\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Economic Development: What progress has he made declaring the Volvo Ocean Race Stopover a major event under the Major Events Management Act 2007?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022 data-id=\u0022c895579415804fbd952d4cd58e78aff3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c895579415804fbd952d4cd58e78aff3\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister for Economic Development):\u003C/span\u003E Very good progress has been made. A paper has been approved by a Cabinet committee, and I expect the Government next week to endorse the declaration of the Volvo Ocean Race stopover next month in Auckland. Major events such as these are a significant contributor to New Zealand\u2019s economy, so there are a number of protections in the Major Events Management Act. For example\u2014and I pick a random example\u2014as the author of the Act said at the time it was passed, \u201CThe bill \u2026 prohibits the on-sale of tickets at above their face value. As recent events show, those who buy up tickets and then seek to sell them at an unfair profit have deprived many Kiwi \u2026 fans of the opportunity to attend big events.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223437233db41846a4a3c79b94ff408392\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: Why are these kinds of protections under the Major Events Management Act necessary? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002299062570532342079d1a24ad76701f6f\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: Event organisers need to be confident that their investment and marketing are not undermined. As the author of the Act said at the time, organisers and sponsors make huge financial commitments to make these types of events a reality, and clearly they do not want others to free-ride on their investments and trade off their goodwill. Indeed, there are those who would advocate these protections be extended to regional events, such as\u2014I do not know; speaking hypothetically\u2014Wellington\u2019s Homegrown festival, although presumably not, in this case, the original sponsor of this Act. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220da1ab5ccbf54b63b163cd3f06a0fd16\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: What reports has the Minister received that suggest ongoing behaviour contrary to the intent of that legislation? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022872f8912a01f4f5683b300fd36a8a14d\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: I have received a report as late as this morning highlighting the problem of ongoing ticket scalping for upcoming events, taking place in this case, apparently, from a red-painted ticket sales office in Naenae, which is possibly part of a chain of such offices all across Lower Hutt. Notwithstanding that the alleged perpetrator has been quoted in the paper as saying \u201CIt\u2019s not what it looks like.\u201D, I think in this case it is what it looks like, and what it looks like is a clear case of \u201CDo as I say, but not as I do.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227ee49b2145704281920f409187bd383a\u0022\u003EPoint of Order\u2014Supplementary Questions, Prefacing Words\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u002269adf2374cb14e24bb38ac77c07f91ad\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002269adf2374cb14e24bb38ac77c07f91ad\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. It is a serious point of order. Standing Order 170/8 refers to the way in which people may begin a supplementary question. I wonder whether you might reflect on that, and come back to us on it. It is not a big matter, but it is something that has come up three times today in supplementary questions. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ff8d6b8339f7433db43f453abc525491\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Does the honourable Leader of the House mean Speaker\u2019s ruling 170/8?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002295911f12986a40fabf1c45235e37b0eb\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, Speaker\u2019s ruling. It is not necessary to talk about it now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a25383238369406282a82a9457eb93ef\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Once I see what the matter is about, I will\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222b06bd5fc5e1490683d6f01185661c70\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: That is fine. Thank you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022 data-id=\u0022a91fe0650fb3491db35903003228a8e2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a91fe0650fb3491db35903003228a8e2\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Members are aware that I have not been too strict on that issue. I am aware that previous Speakers have ruled that out, but the reason I have not followed that pattern is that I find it helpful if members listen to answers given, and then, in asking a further supplementary question, say \u201CGiven that answer\u201D or \u201CGiven [something the Minister said]\u201D, bringing focus to their question in that way. That is why I have not ruled out that kind of preface to a question. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u002211cc54b0d9cc4a1f87e9abb8966cb5c3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002211cc54b0d9cc4a1f87e9abb8966cb5c3\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. That would be fine if, on all of the occasions, the word \u201Cgiven\u201D did, in fact, refer to something that was immediately spoken, and not, in fact, to an assertion that was made in the first question. It is just one of those things that sometimes can creep in here, and makes question time a little difficult. I know the efforts you have made to get better answers to questions. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022 data-id=\u00223103a060c5c641a6ad14c82c6ec32cf6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223103a060c5c641a6ad14c82c6ec32cf6\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I am aware of the point the Minister is making. Of course, rather than ruling out questions that do that, I have allowed Ministers to use that alleged statement at the start of the question, and simply refute it. That is, to me, the discipline on members asking questions, because they do not get any answer if they do that sort of thing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002210a1f34ef90f4b718de02d16bf796655\u0022\u003EUrgent Debates Declined\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00225d269f9ecd994a83924471f993e9c9e2\u0022\u003EOverseas Investment Rules\u2014Judicial Decision on Sale of Crafar Farms\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022 data-id=\u00221f26a294c43249a893b53e46aaa40707\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221f26a294c43249a893b53e46aaa40707\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I have received letters from Dr Russel Norman and from the Rt Hon Winston Peters seeking to debate under Standing Order 386 the requirement that the Minister for Land Information and the Associate Minister of Finance must reconsider their decision to approve Milk New Zealand\u2019s application to buy the Crafar farms as a result of a decision of the High Court on 15 February 2012, and the outcome and effects of the decision on current Government policy. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003EThe urgent debate procedure is a means of holding the Government to account for matters that have actually occurred. It is not a means of debating something that may occur in the future. There is no ministerial responsibility for the decision of the High Court, as I pointed out to the House yesterday, so there is no ministerial responsibility for the decision of the High Court requiring that the Ministers\u2019 decision be reconsidered. As that reconsideration has not yet happened, there is no particular case of recent occurrence that can be raised today. The application is therefore declined. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022 data-id=\u0022c0f258637f624ac893c497b26ba58910\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c0f258637f624ac893c497b26ba58910\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader\u2014NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. This is not to in any way challenge what you have just said, but yesterday, in your comments about a similar application made for an urgent debate, you said that there were grounds you could envisage for an application being made, but they were not the grounds that were laid out in yesterday\u2019s application. That being the case\u2014I am not certain of what Dr Norman drafted\u2014I know that our application was drafted not on the basis of what the court had said, because no Minister is responsible for what the judge might do, but on the results of that, which left the policy void on a matter that is highly political and of great public interest. That is why our application was phrased that way. That said, you have ruled it out. But are there any grounds at all on which such an application could be successful, given what you said yesterday, which sounded like an invitation to lodge an application today?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022 data-id=\u002245c070d2ebe244b88daaae4de2c9a403\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002245c070d2ebe244b88daaae4de2c9a403\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I appreciate the right honourable gentleman\u2019s points, and it is a fair point of order. The grounds that I envisage would be if the Ministers made a very prompt decision to do something, because that would be a case of recent occurrence. But the case must be something that is the responsibility of a Minister, and as the right honourable member points out, the decision of the judge is not the responsibility of the Minister. The member did put some effort into trying to frame an application to try to bring it to meet the Standing Orders\u2014and I compliment him on that\u2014but it does require a case of recent occurrence involving a Government Minister, and that has not happened yet. That was what I envisaged might happen, and it has not happened yet. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00225aa54642436b48ae82765b5663e2333d\u0022\u003EAddress in Reply\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002249fed58f1e904783b8ff956198d1d555\u0022\u003EAddress in Reply\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000241\u0022\u003EDebate resumed from 15 February.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022 data-id=\u0022be18af56657f4fcf893d67f8866dc97d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022be18af56657f4fcf893d67f8866dc97d\u0022\u003EDr PAUL HUTCHISON (National\u2014Hunua):\u003C/span\u003E It gives me great pleasure to speak in this Address in Reply debate, because of the excellent record of the National Government over the last 3 years, and because of the extremely well-crafted 120-point economic development plan, which heralds such a bright future for all New Zealanders. But I must say I was somewhat concerned last Tuesday when I heard some somewhat vacuous huffing and puffing from the deputy leader of the Labour Party, Grant Robertson, the member for Wellington Central, when he said after a 10-minute tirade that, in his view, all the National Government could do was sell, cut, and hope. That is why Mr Robertson has only 33 colleagues sitting on those benches over there, and if he continues with the lack of insight he displayed last week, there will be some fewer members left next time around. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003EWhat was extraordinary about Mr Robertson\u2019s lack of insight was that he failed to recognise that election 2011 was all about a National Government that was committed and determined to balance the books by 2014, committed and determined to achieve economic growth through a sustainable 120-point plan, and committed and determined to follow prudential financial management, versus a Labour Opposition, which seemed hell-bent, committed, and determined to spend more, borrow more, get money from wherever it could, and tax more at a time when this was clearly against the short-, medium-, and long-term interests of New Zealand. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003EThe other thing that was notable about the Opposition was that it accused both the Prime Minister and members from this side of failing to address the social issues. It is as though the Labour Opposition has this myopic feeling that it possesses the high ground on social justice and other such things. How wrong could it be! We have just seen a landmark initiative from the Hon Paula Bennett in initiating the extremely important Green Paper for Vulnerable Children. It is of extreme importance to all New Zealanders. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003EEveryone in this House knows that child outcomes have deteriorated in New Zealand relative to OECD statistics over the last 30 years since the 1960s, and everybody in this House knows that probably in the order of 15 to 20 percent of our children will not achieve their full potential or will not realise their dreams unless a huge amount of effort is put into solving what has gone on for decades. It is a particularly difficult situation, and it will not be solved easily. However, the Hon Paula Bennett is holding meetings throughout the country that are extremely well attended, and she is giving ordinary Kiwis the opportunity to turn up and show what they believe is important in solving these fundamentally serious situations for New Zealand. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003EI would say to all members of this House that they should take note of that. They should read the green paper, and, hopefully, they too can contribute by a submission to the green paper. It is extremely politically neutral in the way it has been written, and it does indeed give a great opportunity\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b398827c-6bf5-403e-90dc-ff03205302a5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229d089cadbdef40a3ac3d3eede69b3e51\u0022\u003ESu\u2019a William Sio\u003C/span\u003E: I want you to be the Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228c164030b5904727bfba682c46f412f8\u0022\u003EDr PAUL HUTCHISON\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014for a contribution, and I am sure Su\u2019a William Sio over there will be doing exactly that. He attended the meeting in M\u0101ngere, and I very much hope he will be a major contributor. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003EThere is indeed a groundswell throughout New Zealand that improving outcomes for children is a major, major issue in New Zealand and does require a far greater priority than successive Governments have put to it over the last few decades. That is why the National Government has demonstrated its willingness to improve child outcomes by forming a high-level ministerial group on poverty, by agreeing to hold a M\u0101ori Affairs Committee inquiry into the determinants of well-being for M\u0101ori children, by initiating the green paper, and\u2014only yesterday\u2014by initiating a Health Committee inquiry into what practical health and social interventions can be made to prevent child abuse and promote child well-being from conception until 3 years of age, which is the most vital time to prevent problems developing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003E As a young house surgeon at Middlemore Hospital, several decades ago, I am afraid to say\u2014I admit that\u2014it was deeply impressed on me the predictability of cycles of disadvantages that were going to occur. In the antenatal clinics I would see these young women and their babies. They were clearly highly at risk. Sadly, often they would be single, they would have tattoos, they would be smokers, they would be addicted to drugs, and they would often be in the lower socio-economic group. Again, sadly, a higher proportion of them would be M\u0101ori or Pacific Islanders. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003EThose children, having been born, would often go to suboptimal housing. They would often go to homes where their ear infections were not treated, where their sores were not treated, where they did not get their immunisations or their Well Child checks. They went to school, they did not learn well, and they would finally leave school without appropriate qualifications. They could not get a job, they turned to crime, and they got caught, because they could not even hear the policeman coming. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003EIt is worthwhile pointing out that a study by a fellow called Bowers in the 1980s of the muster at Mt Eden Prison showed that 90 percent of the muster had some sort of hearing defect and there were 15 to 20 of those prisoners wandering around with chronically suppurating ears. These are the very things that we have got to solve. All the literature\u2014the scientific, the psychological, the educative, the judicial\u2014points to early intervention. That is why it is so important that the Government\u2019s initiatives on vulnerable children must be carried through, and, hopefully, the whole Parliament will get behind it. That is why the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee inquiry into improving M\u0101ori children\u2019s outcomes is so important, and that is why the Health Committee inquiry into practical, evidence-based outcomes that can be taken from the earliest stage is of extreme importance and gives all members of this House an opportunity to contribute. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfdabe42-521a-4dca-afab-3e781731a130\u0022\u003EFinally, I just wanted to say that clearly the economic influences to resource excellent health, education, and social services are not everything; practical focus on the economy and on economic growth is absolutely vital. It is vital and fundamental that this National Government is determined to sustained economic growth through this very well-crafted economic development plan, through prudential financial management, and through balancing the books by 2014-15. This is particularly important in these very uncertain economic times, and it is particularly important for us to ensure that there are practical resources behind making the outcomes for children in New Zealand better than they are at present.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022 data-id=\u0022979e7eee96c04e3294da8c5c2b1da382\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022979e7eee96c04e3294da8c5c2b1da382\u0022\u003ECHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Mr Deputy Speaker, I want to congratulate you and your fellow presiding officers on your re-elections to office, and also to all returning members to the House, congratulations on your re-elections, and to all new members, congratulations on your elections. To the new members who have already made their maiden speeches, congratulations\u2014particularly to my four Labour colleagues David Clark, Andrew Little, Dr Megan Woods, and Rino Tirikatene on the superb speeches that they made the other night in the House\u2014and also to all the other members who have made their maiden speeches. To those who have not yet made maiden speeches, best of luck. It is a great experience and one to really treasure. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EI feel it is a great privilege to be able to speak in the Address in Reply debate to the Speech from the Throne, and particularly to support the amendment that has been moved by my friend and colleague our new leader, David Shearer. I want to read the amendment in full because it merits repeating: \u201Cand the National-led Government will sell New Zealand\u2019s assets against the will of the public; the Government has no ideas to create jobs or a clean and innovative New Zealand; that the Government is widening the gap between the very rich and the rest and therefore this House has no confidence in the National-led government.\u201D That amendment has my wholehearted support, and that of my colleagues, and it has been reinforced by the handling of the Crafar farms affair. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EIt is useful, I think, to just mention a bit of the background to that matter. The Shanghai Pengxin company made an offer for the Crafar farms. That was accepted by receivers KordaMentha early last year, but it was conditional on Shanghai Pengxin getting Overseas Investment Office approval. It should be remembered that those farms total nearly 8,000 hectares and they comprise 16 central and southern North Island properties. They have been in receivership for more than 2 years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EThe receivers gave Shanghai Pengxin until 31 January 2011 to make its offer, understood to be worth between $210 million and $220 million, unconditional. On Friday, 20 January the Overseas Investment Office did provide its recommendation on the sale to the Minister for Land Information, the Hon Maurice Williamson, and Associate Minister of Finance, the Hon Jonathan Coleman. After this, Shanghai Pengxin waited until 27 January 2012 for the Ministers involved to reach a decision to allow the purchase to proceed. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EThe success of the bid relied heavily on the involvement of Landcorp, a State-owned enterprise, in operating the farms, as Shanghai Pengxin could not prove that it had any relevant experience and skill in farming practices. It is understood that Landcorp, on behalf of the taxpayer, had agreed to pay $18 million a year, effectively to rent the farms back from Shanghai Pengxin. Landcorp, of course, had earlier bid for the farms but was unsuccessful. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EA Kiwi consortium last year offered $171.5 million for the farms, to be divided amongst members of the consortium. Receivers said the offer was too cheap, and KordaMentha reminded everybody concerned that it was legally obliged to try for the highest price for the estate. That was the decision that was taken to the Overseas Investment Office; that was the matter that was taken on to the High Court judicial review on 3 February. The decision yesterday by Justice Miller to overturn the Shanghai Pengxin sale means that the office must reconsider its recommendation in light of the interpretation that was set out by the High Court in its decision. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EThere are three points that I think it is worth having on the record of the House about the decision. In setting aside the decision, the court said, first, that the Ministers involved misdirected themselves on the law, and that the essence of the misdirection was that comparing Shanghai Pengxin\u2019s bid only against the status quo of the farms, rather than against what another New Zealand investor would do with them\u2014which was deemed likely to be similar to Shanghai Pengxin\u2019s development plans\u2014was a fundamental error. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226bb67d83798f4f309979ec3a1dd4e3b1\u0022\u003EHon Maurice Williamson\u003C/span\u003E: The same process Labour had used during its time in office.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e1509eee5a2a46819b2d93453c1c5085\u0022\u003ECHARLES CHAUVEL\u003C/span\u003E: Then Ministers ignored\u2014and we hear from one of the Ministers in error that this was a process that has been used down the ages. Well, actually, he knows that is not right, because it is not the process that the Hon David Parker employed in respect of the Auckland International Airport. He did something that that Minister refused to do\u2014apply his own judgment in the national interest to the decision. Instead of just saying \u201CWe will flog it to the highest bidder, because that suits us.\u201D, he asked what was actually in New Zealand\u2019s national interest, and that is the difference between the previous administration under Labour and the current administration. We actually did think about what mattered for New Zealand and we made decisions accordingly. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EThe second key part of the decision of Justice Miller was that Ministers were held to have ignored clear evidence of the benefits that would accrue should the land remain in New Zealand ownership. Given that economic benefits would also be realised if the farms were sold to a New Zealand buyer, the Shanghai Pengxin bid could not claim to be adding substantial benefit to the country, and that is a basic and fundamental problem with the reasoning process used by the Ministers. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EFinally\u2014and, I think, most damningly\u2014the Ministers\u2019 error was not a mere technicality and the economic benefits caused by the overseas investment were materially overstated. It is going to be very hard, despite what we have heard in answers to questions to Ministers, when this decision has to be taken again, for that bid to be upheld\u2014very, very hard, indeed. The High Court\u2019s decision to overturn the sale shows that National simply got it wrong, and in doing so, as I said earlier, just ignored the best interests of New Zealanders. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EIt is worse than that, because if one looks at the entire process, there are some suspicions that are naturally arising as a result of the way in which the process was handled. It seems pretty clear, actually, stepping back, that the Government always intended to sell this valuable land to Shanghai Pengxin, despite clear evidence that it was not the right decision for New Zealand. John Key has repeatedly claimed that the law did not allow him or his Ministers to overrule a recommendation made by the Overseas Investment Office to approve the Chinese consortium\u2019s application. That is plainly wrong, and that is certainly very different to the sort of reasoning process employed, for example, by David Parker. Justice Miller\u2019s decision shows that John Key\u2019s claim was wrong and that this was simply a way of justifying erroneous decision-making on the part of the two Ministers whom I have referred to. Ministers do have the ability\u2014clear ability\u2014to turn down recommendations by the Overseas Investment Office. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EThe test is very clear in the Act. They are not entitled to depart from the tests in the Act, but they are entitled and required to apply their own judgment to that test. In fact, the Act goes so far as to say that once they have received the advice from the office, they can consult with whomever they like in reaching their final decision. There is simply no evidence that either of these Ministers applied the independent judgment in the interests of the country that we would expect them to. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EWe on this side of the House said that the decision to sell to Shanghai Pengxin was wrong. It was not in New Zealand\u2019s national interest. We all want foreign direct investment, but we do not want to sell valuable land to foreign investors only to see profits that could have been reaped by New Zealand farmers and injected into our own economy heading offshore. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EJohn Key has repeatedly warned that there is a risk that New Zealanders could become tenants in our own land. Well, this is now his chance to make sure that that does not happen in this case. We need to be setting a high standard for any further investment. We need an absolute assurance that any investment will add more value and provide more opportunities for New Zealanders, and above all, we need competent Ministers with a plan to build a prosperous, fair, and vibrant society.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d7c81589b692490bb9b63070067d2541\u0022\u003EHon Maurice Williamson\u003C/span\u003E: So you ran that ruler over the Shania Twain bid?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002294549899cb0748dab5b27b22b2b7225d\u0022\u003ECHARLES CHAUVEL\u003C/span\u003E: Sadly, despite the shouts and shrieks from the Ministers concerned, who now seem very wise after the event, the sad thing about this case is that it shows that we do not have a cadre of Ministers with those skills or that commitment as members of the second Key National Government. That is why I wholeheartedly support the amendment that David Shearer has moved to the motion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022 data-id=\u0022047ca23a42644f49a0104f59ba94b722\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022047ca23a42644f49a0104f59ba94b722\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Defence):\u003C/span\u003E Mr Deputy Speaker, I must say it is great to be back in Parliament. I want to congratulate you on your elevation, in your case, and your fellow officers on their positions, and on the re-election of the Speaker. I would like to say to the new members across the House, from whatever party, welcome to Parliament. We have had a great range of maiden speeches from a range of members, and I am very much looking forward to some great speeches this afternoon from the new National members. We are bringing in some real quality people, and I think those people have great careers ahead of them. I also want to acknowledge the many National Party members and supporters in the gallery today, who have come from all around the country to hear those maiden speeches. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003EI cannot let that last speech go without pointing out one or two things. The thing that really struck me is that those guys over there did one thing in Government and are now saying another thing in Opposition. Of course, there is a word for that, but we do not need to go into that. But the facts bear this out. Under the first term of this National Government, 100,000 hectares of land were sold. Under the 9 years of the Labour Government, 666,000 hectares\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225e248d9fea3145a49af277553ff79fa6\u0022\u003EHon Maurice Williamson\u003C/span\u003E: How much?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022626c2511d6f34de18732cc05b59361bc\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014of land were sold\u2014666,000 hectares. In 1 year alone, 2006, those people in Government sold 383,000 hectares of land. So for Charles Chauvel to get up now and say that he is opposed to land sales to foreigners is nothing more than cheap politics\u2014below-the-belt politics. The reality is, and I can tell you, Mr Shearer does not actually believe this stuff, because he is a person with a wider international perspective on things. He knows that New Zealand has to grow, that we need foreign direct investment. But the problem is he cannot have his voice heard in that caucus, because it is the hard-nosed political people like Trevor Mallard who are pulling the strings. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003EWhat was really interesting when you heard Charles Chauvel\u2019s speech there was that he was talking about the tests that were applied in this case. Well, the thing is the tests that were applied were exactly the same ones that were used by David Parker and all the other Labour Ministers who were involved in land consent applications during the 9 years of the Labour Government. Suddenly, they are saying that the way it has been done all along is so wrong and this Government has got it so wrong, but somehow they had it right. I do not think that can possibly add up. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003ESo I think the public are going to see this for what it is, but what these people over there need to know is that when David Shearer goes to Auckland and goes to Chinese New Year and says gong xi fa cai, those people will know that the Labour Party is anti-Chinese. That is the sad fact. That is how it is going to be portrayed in Beijing, that if we ever get a Labour Government here\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002220d9656510b841b5983765a26a55888b\u0022\u003ETodd McClay\u003C/span\u003E: Except when they want their money.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cc15cc1a75304f0facfd30c5b0a53c69\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: Of course\u2014except when these people want donations. These people want to live in a small, insular New Zealand that does not look outward. They are being increasingly influenced by the Greens and I can tell you their concept of economic sovereignty is the road to economic ruin. So, they are a party\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223670ee17282245a3b50b73a7bcdf27cb\u0022\u003EHon Maryan Street\u003C/span\u003E: Grow up and be a Minister!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b2895f66e8744dc69a12e045725f88b3\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014and you can tell by how agitated Maryan Street is that we are really hitting the nail here\u2014that when it is in Government it does something totally different. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003EThere is another example that has been brought to our attention. The Major Events Management Act 2007 is a very important Act, which quite rightfully was designed to stop scalping at major events. When it was brought in, the sponsor of that bill, the Hon Trevor Mallard, was very clear about why that legislation was needed. He said: \u201CScalping is a rip-off\u2014\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022697bf072c70e47e5a737462156745669\u0022\u003EHon Maryan Street\u003C/span\u003E: Find somebody to punch on the nose, Jonathan!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a849bc12b7614b60ab5edfb3565db632\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: Maryan Street said she wants to come and punch me on the nose, so we are really hitting the point here\u2014\u201CScalping is a rip-off that could deny many people the opportunity to see an event.\u201D That is what Trevor Mallard said\u2014\u201CScalping is a rip-off \u2026\u201D. So it came as a great surprise today for people to pick up the front page of the Dominion Post and see the \u201CKing of Uber-cool\u201D, New Zealand\u2019s hippest 57-year-old, Trevor Mallard, being accused here of selling tickets for a profit online. Is that not sad? Just like with asset sales, Labour ex-Ministers do one thing in Government, but when it suits them\u2014in this case for personal financial gain\u2014they are very happy to do something else. And I can imagine the shock that these young Wellingtonians got when they were called to Trevor Mallard\u2019s contraband ticket office, the Naenae electorate office for Hutt South, and found the \u201CKing of Uber-cool\u201D coming out\u2014no doubt in his tight black T-shirt, getting down with the kids\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223c7cbd001dd7485884c74e135c016c67\u0022\u003ETodd McClay\u003C/span\u003E: In his leather trousers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022305cc00c970a4914a3c9bb255684b2d3\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I do not know, but he was flogging off these tickets at an exorbitant price. If that is about creating a more equal society, well, I think the more equal society is, frankly, empty rhetoric on that side. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003EQuite frankly, it is a complete disgrace, and I feel sorry for Mr Shearer, because he is a good man. He was one of my constituents and I am pretty sure he voted for me. He has now moved to the Mt Albert electorate, but he is a good man and the Labour Party does not deserve David Shearer. He is too good for these people. But he made a choice a long time ago, he set out his stall, and now he is stuck with this bunch of losers over there. I can tell you that those people are a long, long way from Government. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003EBut there is good news too, because today we have had the Budget Policy Statement. Look, the Budget Policy Statement shows that we are on track economically. John Key, the best Prime Minister that this country has ever had, said he would get the economics of this country on the right track. [Interruption] The new New Zealand First member Tracey Martin can go and have a read of this; it is a very good piece of paper\u2014in fact, a number of pieces of paper. We are on track to post a surplus of $370 million by 2014-15\u2014responsible management of the finances that Labour was never able to deliver. It wasted 9 years squandering every single opportunity. We could be so far ahead if it had not raided the cookie jar year after year to buy off votes from every community imaginable. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003EThere is an essential choice that the voters of New Zealand made at the general election. They voted for the mixed-ownership model, because, unlike these guys, the New Zealand public understands we have to get debt down. But we have also got to build infrastructure. We have got $250 billion worth of assets and what we are going to do, in order to buy infrastructure that the country needs, is partially float four of those companies. What I want to know, Maryan Street, if this is such a bad idea, while you guys were in office why did you not buy back the 25 percent of Air New Zealand that\u2014[Interruption] Yep, see, she is playing the violin. Why did they not do it? The fact is they had the opportunity. Their opposition to this is purely political, but if they had their way, they would be borrowing more. We would be getting into more debt. We would be going down the route of Greece, Ireland, Spain, and Portugal. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003EWe are on track, and we are on track because we are making the decisions that are right for New Zealand. So I am very proud to be a member of this National-led Government. The future is excellent for New Zealand if we stick to the economic track that we are on. If these people ever get back in charge, I can tell you the outlook is not going to be good at all. But, fortunately, what I can assure members and the public is that these people are so far away from making an impact, it is negligible\u2014years away. I do not think that the next Labour Prime Minister, frankly, is even in the Parliament. In fact, who is the Leader of the Opposition?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ac5a7fd5a5fc43c9916bc9083d7c78fe\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Who is he?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228e7d86daa92240cca72650559e3ea317\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: I do not know. Is it Winston?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227a8868a9c60948309f05c1d3112224ba\u0022\u003EDr Cam Calder\u003C/span\u003E: It could be.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022320d9df0d0004d40a8a0e463796a3bde\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it could be. It could be the leader of the Green Party, because that is a leaderless rabble. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003EPaul Hutchison talked about the 120-point economic plan. It is about economic growth, it is about looking outwards, and it is about getting investment into New Zealand and growing the economy. That myopic look that says: \u201CDon\u2019t come here if you are a Chinese investor, please.\u201D, that is not going to work. We have got to get the capital into this country, we have got to raise exports, we have got to get the country going. It needs clear-sighted vision, and that is what the mixed-ownership model is bringing\u2014a very clear view on what New Zealand needs. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003ESo those are my remarks. We have laid out our stall: a clear plan, a clear delivery. The public are behind us. It is the way to go.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022 data-id=\u0022c6de9f57f9f5400ea47efb98ab5d8b35\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c6de9f57f9f5400ea47efb98ab5d8b35\u0022\u003ETODD McCLAY (National\u2014Rotorua):\u003C/span\u003E It is a great pleasure to rise and speak in this Address in Reply debate. Can I start by saying that it is going to be a very hard act to follow that wonderful, delightful, entertaining, visionary speech from the Minister Jonathan Coleman\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229ca9d093a0b844a0b7fc752143935748\u0022\u003EHon Maryan Street\u003C/span\u003E: You\u2019ll be all right, Todd. Don\u2019t worry. You\u2019ll be all right.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022156d5e7d03e744859944fbcdd0ef4ddb\u0022\u003ETODD McCLAY\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014but I will do my very best, Maryan Street; you are absolutely right. But that was an excellent speech. The Minister touched on all of the points that were important to New Zealanders last year before the election\u2014all of the reasons why New Zealanders turned out in their droves to support this party and the Prime Minister and to say \u201CWe want more of that for another 3 years.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003ECan I say that it is great to be back, and it is enjoyable to be back in this House to join with my colleagues and, particularly, to join with other members of Parliament here from all parties as we look towards the next 3 years to work hard, collectively and separately, to make New Zealand a better place. I particularly want to recognise the role of the Speaker, and the deputies and assistants, to congratulate the Speaker on his election and reappointment, and to say that we look forward to more time with him in the Chair. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003ECan I recognise the new members of Parliament who have come here, and particularly members from the Green Party. I thoroughly enjoyed their maiden speeches yesterday, although not as much, perhaps, as my colleague on my right, Cam Calder. But can I say, it is good to see new members coming here and talking a bit about why they have come to this House and what brought them here, and so on. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EI want to recognise members of New Zealand First, the new members to the House, and their contributions in their maiden speeches. They too were enjoyable. I want to welcome back the Rt Hon Winston Peters, who has come back to the House, and also, of course, to welcome back the Hon John Banks. They are brothers at times\u2014perhaps in the past. It is good to see those members back. We may not agree on everything, but it is good to have members of the House who will come here and debate issues honestly. May I wish them well in that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003ECan I recognise four members of Labour who are new to this Parliament and who gave their maiden speeches yesterday; today we have seven new members of National who will make their speeches\u20147-4. That would have been a good score some years ago in a Rugby World Cup when the All Blacks were playing Australia or somebody else. I want to reflect on that for a moment. Here we are, a National Government in a second term, which in the last 3 years went through, with New Zealand, some very difficult times: the global financial crisis, the steepest recession New Zealand has faced in 60 years, great heartache to New Zealand and New Zealanders with the devastation of the earthquakes, and the very sad loss of life in Christchurch. But here we are with seven new members of the National caucus making their speeches today, and well done to them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EThat is a bit about rejuvenation. Three years ago we saw rejuvenation for New Zealand when New Zealanders in droves\u2014the largest vote ever cast for any party under MMP\u2014decided they wanted a change of direction and they wanted a brighter future. And here we are with seven new National MPs to make their speeches today\u2014rejuvenation after only one term. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EOn the Opposition side, in Labour, there are four new members. Actually, there were some very good speeches there but only four of them. What happened to Labour over that last 3 years when it decided that it was about listening to New Zealanders, rejuvenating, and bringing in new blood? Well, I feel very sorry for some of their hard-working MPs who 3 years ago made their maiden speeches with some of my colleagues\u2014some very intelligent MPs who are no longer in this place. So there is some work to do. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003ECan I say that in mentioning Mr Peters, we should actually have a vote in this House about who the real Leader of the Opposition is, because I think, based upon what has happened so far over the last 2 weeks, it is not clear that the party in Opposition with the largest number of votes would necessarily win there. If we think about\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022531cae0058724741a47813cc13e880f1\u0022\u003EHon Maurice Williamson\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ll go with the Australian. I\u2019m going to vote for the Australian.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e145f01b6e02436484f7105ea54589ae\u0022\u003ETODD McCLAY\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Williamson would vote for the Australian\u2014very good. Can I say here that over the last 2 weeks, when we think about question time and about the Opposition holding the Government to account we see that the largest party in this House, Labour, has been woefully neglectful and absent. And can I say that although we will not always agree with everything that happens from all parties in this House, if nothing more it has been interesting and entertaining to listen to the Rt Hon Winston Peters. I say to his colleagues that they too have a very important role to play. You see, the thing about Opposition is that it is not always about opposing everything; it is about finding ways that we can work together, putting the politics aside from time to time, and finding ways that we can work together. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003ENew Zealand First members have a list MP based in the Bay of Plenty\u2014Brendan Horan\u2014and I had a chance to talk to him for the first time last week and welcome him to Parliament on behalf of parts of the Bay of Plenty and with my National colleagues in all the other seats in the Bay of Plenty, which not only did we hold before but we were able to continue to hold in this election. I talked to him about putting aside some of our individual political issues and finding ways to work together more closely so that we can do better for New Zealanders. And I look forward to being able to do that with New Zealand First members. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EFinally, I want to get on to a bit of the detail of some of the things the Government has set out to do, but before I do I want to focus on one thing, and that is the leader of the Labour Party, David Shearer. He came into Parliament at the same time as some of us, a short 3 years ago\u20143 years and a few months. I really got to know him only when we played in the Parliamentary cricket game in Cambridge a couple of years ago. It strikes me that that is about the same amount of knowledge that most New Zealanders have on him. But do I wish him well? Absolutely. It seems that he was demoted or dropped from the Big Gay Out last week. I did not see a lot of coverage there. Breakfast TV\u2014in the headlines today, Breakfast has decided that as leader of Labour and Leader of the Opposition, he is not that interesting, so they might not be able to give him a slot every week on Breakfast. A prediction for you\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225558b796cc314085879f701bc83f2b1e\u0022\u003EHon Maurice Williamson\u003C/span\u003E: Oh.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227957c30904e24e4e9b885c6ecf82db8e\u0022\u003ETODD McCLAY\u003C/span\u003E: It is a bit of a shame because I saw him on TV this morning and when he was speaking to New Zealanders I felt my majority in the Rotorua electorate going up. So I would like to keep him there. A plea to Breakfast and TVNZ: give him some more time for the good of our majorities. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EHere is a prediction for the next 3 years. In the next 3 years, when we have shown New Zealanders that we have continued to work hard for them and deliver on the commitments and promises we made to them during this last election campaign when they re-elected us to govern this country, I guarantee that when we get there and it is time to consider John Key as Prime Minister, his commitments to New Zealand and New Zealanders, and the very hard work that he and this Government has done on their behalves, it will not be David Shearer on the other side that he is up against. There is my prediction: David Shearer is gone from the Big Gay Out and dumped from Breakfast, and I do not think it will be very long before he is finding another seat on that side a row or two back. I wish him the very best because he was quite a good cricket player a year or so ago in Cambridge, but that is about all I remember of him. It is about all that the people of Cambridge probably know about him as well. Where is Winston Peters when we need a real Leader of the Opposition? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EWhat I want to say is that these 3 years are about economic development for New Zealand, something that was woefully lacking over the 9 years of the last Labour Government. We started under very difficult circumstances in the last 3 years, delivered on every promise and every commitment we made as a party to New Zealanders, and now we must focus. In roading we must do more work. A great start\u2014$12 billion invested over 10 years. In the Bay of Plenty, a brand new road that will go from the Te Puke area\u2014the Te Puke bypass, I call it\u2014between Rotorua and Tauranga to the port will cut out about 24 or 25 minutes from a return journey. That is great if you want to go and visit the beautiful part of the Bay of Plenty and the coastline or Tauranga and so on, but it is important for our economy in that area of New Zealand, where we produce a lot of trees and a lot of goods that go to the port. That road will cut down the time it takes for us to get our goods to the port. We therefore will be more productive. When we are more productive, we can be more competitive, and that will be more money back into the Bay of Plenty. Roads of national significance are also an important part of that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EBroadband and communications\u2014wonderful. Last year, before the election, they started digging trenches in Rotorua and in 33 other towns and cities around New Zealand for ultra-fast broadband. New Zealanders cannot wait for this to happen and be delivered, because for far too long we were left with inadequate ways to communicate with the world and with each other. Rural broadband as well\u2014$300 million the Government will be investing into this. I was told by some of my constituents in a rural area, where their cellphones have never worked under the 9 years of the previous Labour Government, that a new tower is going up, their cellphones will work, and they will get internet coverage faster than actually posting a letter. That was what it was like before, under the Labour Government, in rural areas: it was quicker to post a letter and get a response, sometimes. Rural broadband is very important for us to reform our economy and give us some of the advantages that we need so that we can grow. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003ETaking away red tape and bureaucracy\u2014the Resource Management Act. We completed some significant reform there previously, but there is a lot more to do to free up New Zealanders to get on with their lives and business, at the same time continuing to protect our wonderful environment. Time is almost up. Can I say to those who have come\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a40f5af7-f9b0-4b44-9669-9e63be1c3ced\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d86fcda699c14320b6aad926507f9e36\u0022\u003EDarien Fenton\u003C/span\u003E: Thank goodness.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022443803f555d442d28741a47e171538e9\u0022\u003ETODD McCLAY\u003C/span\u003E: I will take a little bit more if you want me to. Can I say to those who have come to listen to maiden speeches that you are very welcome here; this is your House. It is great to see some friends come and support our new MPs. As with all colleagues on this side of the House, I look forward to the next 3 years of a John Key - led National Government delivering for New Zealanders and working hard for New Zealanders. It is going to be an exciting 3 years as we work towards a brighter future. Kia ora. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022 data-id=\u00225e3a407363034bb582b13955fcc86a2b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225e3a407363034bb582b13955fcc86a2b\u0022\u003EHon Dr NICK SMITH (Minister for the Environment):\u003C/span\u003E Can I begin this Address in Reply speech today in congratulating Todd McClay not just on that speech but actually on the stunning result that was achieved in Rotorua, a seat that was previously held by Labour. A big increase in his majority, over 7,400, and actually typical of results right through provincial New Zealand, where that middle group of New Zealanders strongly back the programme that this Government has set down under the leadership of John Key. Can I join other members and congratulate the new members of this House. I am particularly proud to be here as a National member and to see that new generation coming through with National and a whole range of very, very talented people coming into this Parliament to make a contribution. The part that makes me particularly proud as part of this National Government is the extent to which, on this side of the House, there is an understanding of the challenges that face our country. I have to say that I do worry that those on the opposite side of the House have no idea of the challenges, economically, that our country faces, the problems that we have incurred over the last decade, and the importance for the future of our country that we get our economy growing more strongly. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003EThe Government in the Address in Reply debate has set out four really important priorities in this term of Parliament about responsibly managing a Government\u2019s finances\u2014about, as we saw today with the Budget Policy Statement, getting New Zealand books back into the black sooner and faster. When I look around the world, and I see how many countries in the world are going to have their books in the black by 2014-15, there are very few, and I am proud to be part of this Government that is achieving that. What surprises me is that in every question from Opposition members, in every speech, I hear lots of promises about how they will spend more money, but very little about how they will actually grow the economy, particularly the productive sector. That is the only way in which we can secure the incomes, the jobs, and the prosperity for the future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003EThere has also been a huge focus across the ministerial team around building a more competitive and productive economy, and about building better public services, and I want to talk about that in some detail with respect to my own portfolios. And, of course, there is the huge challenge for this country and for this Parliament and Government of rebuilding Christchurch, for which there is such a strong commitment and for which I pay tribute to the work of the Minister for Canterbury Earthquake Recovery, Gerry Brownlee, who I think every person in this House acknowledges has got one of the toughest jobs over the next 3 years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E A key part of the Government\u2019s programme is about improving public services and improving New Zealand\u2019s productivity. I want to talk for a moment about the challenges in the local government sector. You see, one of the big concerns we have is that the productive part of our economy has actually been in recession going all the way back to 2002. If we look at our core exporting industries, we see that the extra costs and impositions that were placed on them during the term of the previous Labour Government have seen those sectors stagnate, and the big areas of growth have been both central and local government. I note, for instance, that over the last decade the single biggest increase in costs for households and businesses has been the increase in rates. For the last 10 years that increase has been at 6.85 percent per annum. That is more than double the rate of inflation, and I want to reflect on the changes that were made in all the local government legislation in 2002.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d73e1bca8d484381b030381458380b41\u0022\u003ESue Moroney\u003C/span\u003E: What are you going to do about it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea78091d07744d819531ac4033e35478\u0022\u003EHon Dr NICK SMITH\u003C/span\u003E: I invite the member who is interjecting to go back and read the Hansard of what the Labour Government said at the time. What the Labour Government said at the time was that those measures were actually going to generate cost savings. They have done the opposite. Let me put it this way. If rate increases over the last decade had been at the same level they had been for the previous decade, prior to those changes Labour made, the New Zealand annual rates bill would be a billion dollars\u2014a billion dollars\u2014a year less. What is more, if we talk in terms of households that are under pressure in terms of their costs and their standard of living, those changes have brought about $500 a year in increased rates for the average household, over and above what they would be if those rate increases had been what they were through the previous decade. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003EI want to challenge the member on a further concern, and that is in terms of the level of debt within the local government sector. I have to say that debt is the issue of our time, whether it be household debt, whether it be country debt, or whether it be debt within local government. This Government has been successful\u2014we have seen over the last 2 years household debt come down after it burgeoned in the term of the previous Labour Government, and what we have seen in terms of the farm sector is debt plateau over the last 3 years. But although the Government has been successful my worry is that over the same period we have seen local government debt not just go up but go up by ever-increasing amounts. Since the Local Government Act changes that were made by members opposite, we have seen local government debt quadruple from $2 billion to $8 billion and continuing to rise. So I say\u2014and members on this side of the House say\u2014that ongoing growth in that debt is not right, and that it will compromise the capacity for New Zealand to move forward and to be able to grow competitively. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003EThe first thing we need to do, in response to the member\u2019s question, is go back and have a fresh look at those changes that Labour made to broaden the role of local government. I say to the member opposite that those changes that were made in 2002, which imposed very large compliance costs on our councils and expanded the role of local government far more widely, have come with a very expensive cost for New Zealand households and New Zealand businesses, and that is something this Government is looking to reform. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003EI also want to draw attention to what has occurred around wage costs. If we look at the latest labour cost index, this is what it shows. [Interruption] If members would listen they might learn something. Over the course of the last Labour Government labour costs in the State sector and in the local government sector grew significantly faster than they did in the private sector. What this Government has been successful in doing is bringing back those increasing labour costs within those core Government agencies. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003EBut what worries me is this. Over the last 3 years the labour costs in the local government sector have been increasing at more than double the rate of those in the central government sector. It is our view that the same fiscal discipline that this Government has brought to central government\u2019s books needs to be translated into the local government sector so that we can get those efficiency gains. We actually need both central and local government containing their costs. We need central and local government supporting those core productive industries that actually create the wealth for this country, the jobs, and the future prospects we wish for in this country of ours. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003EThe John Key - led Government over the last 3 years has shown that it is up to the challenges that this country faces in very difficult times. What the Government has set out in the Address in Reply debate is the changes we intend to make in a number of sectors to improve the competitiveness of this country. We as a close-knit team are united in our wish to raise New Zealand\u2019s living standards and to provide the sort of policies that will mean that this country is able to prosper and go forward. I am looking forward this year to some of those local government changes that can assist in that bigger picture of making sure this country can be the best little country on earth.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022 data-id=\u0022a3f3ec8fb111488f8f7408e9648d81e4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a3f3ec8fb111488f8f7408e9648d81e4\u0022\u003ESUE MORONEY (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E On the first occasion that I have spoken in Parliament during this parliamentary term, can I take the opportunity to congratulate you, Mr Assistant Speaker Tisch, on your role, and all the team from the Speaker\u2019s office. I look forward to a rewarding year of debate under your direction. Can I also take the opportunity to congratulate all returning members who have been elected to the House again for this parliamentary term; I look forward to engaging with all returning members in a high level of debate, because we have many important issues in front of us. I want to particularly congratulate the new members of Parliament. We have had many fine maiden speeches already, and I look forward to the balance resuming this afternoon.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003EI do want to say that the last three speakers in this debate have been pretty interesting. I think they have actually personified that arrogance of the second term of the National-led Government. We have had Jonathan Coleman, Todd McClay, and Nick Smith\u2014the arrogance of this new National Government personified. In fact, Dr Smith spent much of his speech pouring scorn on the local bodies up and down this country, and not telling us what he was prepared to do about the problem he was identifying. Is that not typical of the arrogance of National members? They identify the problems, say it is all Labour\u2019s fault, and do not have one plan or one specific idea about what to do with the problem. Dr Smith spent almost all of his 10 minutes enlarging on that problem. It does make me wonder what is waiting in the wings there, and I get the very clear impression that wage cuts for people working for local bodies is very much on the agenda of the National Government. Looking at the body language of the members opposite I would say that I can now definitely confirm that wage cuts for that sector are very much on the agenda. So New Zealand families will not be relishing the prospect of even less money going into the pockets of families in their communities, and, therefore, the winding down of services even further in their communities. That is what we have got ahead of us.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003EBut having said that, I start this parliamentary term being remarkably optimistic, actually. Call me Pollyanna if you like, but I am optimistic about this year. Things have to get better. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022136da8c4-afc7-483e-a39c-c66812f71774\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b92fc8b6a2194fc29ba36074b147c63c\u0022\u003EHon Kate Wilkinson\u003C/span\u003E: They can\u2019t get worse for Labour.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223b82aa77f9dd4206bd5c2e499bf9ff38\u0022\u003ESUE MORONEY\u003C/span\u003E: They cannot get worse; things must get better for New Zealand this year, in 2012. This is the year that the Government gets to come good on its promise to build and deliver that brighter future it has promised New Zealand. The year 2012 is New Zealand\u2019s year, because this is the year that the Government must get it right. This has been dragging on for too long. It is dragging on for so long that unemployment has continued to go through the roof in this country. It has dragged on for so long that costs continue to escalate. It has been dragging on for so long that there is no plan coming from the Government to actually rectify those issues that families and ordinary working people face every day of their lives. Because, yes, they have lost their jobs, and, yes, where they have been lucky enough not to lose their jobs, they have lost hours and therefore income. But have their costs decreased? No way. In fact, costs have increased, thanks to that Government and its decision, without consulting the New Zealand public, to increase GST on everything that those families have to purchase; their costs have continued to increase much more dramatically than their incomes have. In fact, for those families\u2014those thousands of families\u2014who now find themselves in the dole queue, and for those other thousands of families who find that their hours at work have been cut over the last 3 years and therefore their incomes have reduced, they have faced a double whammy. They have faced the double whammy of losing income and having costs increase. The members opposite might sit there and think that is not their fault. They may well think that it is some external thing, like the global recession, but they all voted\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022721a14ca-e9d5-4c2e-b3ef-03d03e4fea07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022430c2cb06edd4cd0b26257a37165e50d\u0022\u003EMike Sabin\u003C/span\u003E: Nine years of Labour.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a2395f04648b4d2689cbb042aafaa46a\u0022\u003ESUE MORONEY\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, well, there you go. According to the new member it is Labour\u2019s fault. Well, you know, they can blame whatever they like\u2014Labour, the global recession\u2014but they are running out of excuses. This is the year that the Government must get it right, because for too long New Zealanders have been suffering from a lack of a plan from our Government. So this is the year that I am optimistic it must come out with a plan, and it must tell us what the plan is. The plan cannot be asset sales, because it is really clear\u2014and the vast majority of New Zealanders already know this\u2014that asset sales are not the way out. It is not the way out, but it is always the answer from National, because it is exactly the same solution it came up with in the 1990s, and before that. It never fails to surprise me, and I guess I should get over this, how often it is\u2014and it does not matter what the circumstances are\u2014that National always comes up with the same solution. The solution is this: cut taxes, cut public services, and then sell your assets. It did that in the 1990s and it is doing it again now. It is the only formula National members know. They roll it out in every single circumstance, and Maurice Williamson knows it. He was involved in it as a Minister last time, and he is going: \u201CWow, is this ever d\u00E9j\u00E0 vu!\u201D. This was happening the last time Maurice Williamson was in Cabinet, and here we go again. So Maurice Williamson knows all about this.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003EIt has not been a good start, though. As optimistic as I would like to be, the Government has not made a good start. Just look at the shambles of what has been happening this year. Already just this week the Government\u2019s asset sales agenda is looking a bit shaky. I think $10 billion was the highest estimate it gave that it was going to reap from those sales. Not only do New Zealanders not want their assets to be sold\u2014and they do not want to buy them, because they already own them\u2014but now they are realising that the whole financial case on which it has been based is actually quite shaky, and we have seen that again this week. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003EWe have also have seen this week that John Key has come a bit of a cropper on his election advert hour with Radio Live\u2014a whole hour of election adverts that he claimed was not an election advert, but which turned out to be exactly that. But that is not all: let us talk about broadcasting scandals this week, because the other scandal is that his electorate chairman appears to have been involved with politically interfering in the use of taxpayer money\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227df975cd-93d2-4f55-9bc5-d2790e28e043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fc681185ec9d4a1cab8c5262121e6552\u0022\u003EHon Maryan Street\u003C/span\u003E: In donkey deep.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022084a60e0472543d4881b07e9863d9399\u0022\u003ESUE MORONEY\u003C/span\u003E: They are in donkey deep. Broadcasting has been a pretty big issue already this week, so the Government has not got off to a good start. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003EAnd then there is the shambles over the Crafar farms decision. There is a shambles over that. The High Court\u2014the judiciary, for goodness\u2019 sake\u2014has come to save the New Zealand public from its own Government. The judiciary has had to step in and do what that Government should be doing on behalf of New Zealanders. It is the judiciary that has had to say that the Government has not made the right decision and the best decision in the economic interests of New Zealanders. The judiciary has had to instruct that Government to go back and think about New Zealanders first. That is what has happened this week. That is exactly what has happened this week, and I know that what National is trying to say is that Labour did it, too. Actually, first, that is not good enough, and, second, it is wrong, wrong, wrong. Labour on many occasions overturned the advice that we got from the Overseas Investment Office. We did not just go: \u201COh, well, if you guys say that\u2019s it, then that\u2019s good enough for us. With hands behind our back, let\u2019s sit on our hands and do nothing about it.\u201D We were prepared to put New Zealanders\u2019 interests first. The Auckland International Airport\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226e5a9c30925746af9fea79d972181a77\u0022\u003EHon Maurice Williamson\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, Auckland International Airport.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bb6d93ccbef94c2f9e698c2ed48d3e79\u0022\u003ESUE MORONEY\u003C/span\u003E: I tell Mr Williamson that that would probably be the most high-profile of those decisions, but there were several others. So the pretence from that side, from the Government, saying that it is just doing what Labour did is wrong, wrong, wrong. It is absolutely wrong, and it is not going to get away with it because New Zealanders know that this smells. They know the smell of their interests being put last when they see it. Can you smell it when you see it? It may not be the right analogy, but New Zealanders get this. They know\u2014they absolutely know\u2014that this Government has not put their interests first. The judiciary knows that this Government has not put New Zealanders\u2019 interests first. How embarrassing it is for that Government to be instructed to go back and do what it was elected to do: to put New Zealanders\u2019 interests first. So I look forward to the overturning of that decision, because Labour got this right, right from the start. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022 data-id=\u0022100f9cf888544d7c9417a1fc392a2d20\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022100f9cf888544d7c9417a1fc392a2d20\u0022\u003EKANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National):\u003C/span\u003E I thank you for the opportunity to speak in the Address in Reply debate this afternoon. I begin by congratulating you, Mr Assistant Speaker Tisch, on your role as a Speaker of the House, and also take this opportunity to congratulate other presiding officers on their roles. I also congratulate my colleagues in Parliament on being re-elected, and welcome all new members in this House. As a not-so-old member of Parliament, I understand how honoured we are as members of Parliament, and I extend my best wishes to all of you. I would also like to acknowledge and thank all the guests present in the gallery who have come to support the National Party MPs in their maiden speeches. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EI begin by commending the National-led Government\u2019s commitment of $1 billion for the Future Investment Fund towards building new schools and modernising our existing schools to the 21st century education delivery level. I also commend my Government for choosing the prudent path of not borrowing to fund the building of the new schools and renovation of existing ones. Furthermore, this Government is committed towards further increasing and improving the transport in this country, and that is commendable as well. We are also investing $12.2 million in State highways over the next 10 years, and we must also not forget that very important project of rebuilding our second-largest city of Christchurch. It is not only New Zealand\u2019s second-largest city, it also accounts for 20 percent of our economy. In order to rebuild Christchurch the Government has committed $5.5 billion. In doing so the Government wants to ensure the economic activities of New Zealand, particularly in Christchurch, stay active. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EThe Prime Minister has outlined our macro strategy of Government management, which involves strong economic growth, along with strong support for our competitive export economy. This, we believe, will lead to our achieving a surplus by 2014-15. To attain our goal the Government wants to move people and capital into the tradable sector. The current economic climate makes it critical that the Government focuses its resources on the areas where they are most needed and will make most impact. The Government promises to do so without investing any new money into public services. This does not mean that the quality of these services will suffer. Rather, by using existing capital and resources the Government wants to ensure that the investment is made in new technologies so that these services are brought up to the mark, so that customers can experience the level of services that other OECD countries provide to their citizens. The Government believes this leads to far better public sector provisions. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EThe Government places importance on protecting and supporting vulnerable people in our communities. This Government will support them by providing them with the opportunity to get a good education, so that they can empower themselves to lead a better quality of life. To achieve this, this Government is working on long-term and sustainable policies. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EAll the above points are part of the four major priorities that this Government has laid over its second term. We need to consider all these priorities in the light of the largest economic challenge faced at home and globally since the Great Depression of the 1930s. Fortunately, the New Zealand position, in comparison with other OECD counterparts, has been resilient. The credit for this resilience can be attributed to the common-sense, prudent, and solid economic policies of this John Key - led Government. It is on the basis of our common-sense, prudent, and solid economic policies that our Government is on its way to achieve a Budget surplus by 2014. In my opinion, this is a target that is not easy to achieve. However, I sincerely believe this Government has got the will to achieve it. The Government led by John Key promises to manage the finances of this country wisely to ensure that public services operate at optimum levels within their budgets, that we remain a productive and competitive economy, and that we remove the burden placed on individuals and entrepreneurs by excessive regulation and taxation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EExcessive taxation results in more money being sent to Wellington, rather than being invested locally where it would lead to the growth of the local economy and job creation for both young and old. Manukau East is where my out-of-Parliament office is located, and it is home to many ethnicities, who love the opportunity to make progress, and provide better lives for themselves and their loved ones. They want to establish small enterprises and to contribute to the local economy. Many of these constituents have told me that they are worried about the introduction of capital gains tax and higher taxes for businesses as proposed by Labour. They are going to lose their savings and the fruits of their hard work via taxation. However, by providing the National Party with the mandate to govern this country, they can be assured that their savings and hard work will remain theirs to keep. This I believe will encourage minorities to start their small and medium sized entrepreneurial ventures, that, one day, may grow to become large-scale and employ a lot of New Zealanders from all walks of life. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003ELastly, I once again mention the rebuilding of Christchurch, a city that in the past 13 months also has experienced unfortunate and uncalled-for events. Rebuilding Christchurch is our No. 1 priority. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EThis Government has displayed the attitude of being proactive and hard-working, and is resilient in its ability to take tough and unpopular decisions. This Government has a long-term vision, and based on that long-term vision it has made wise choices, such as investing in infrastructure, schools, medical care, and broadband services. We are also ensuring that we do not do this by borrowing money, but by using our current resources. The best thing about using our current resources to fund our future dreams is not only do we not borrow money for our long-term vision but also we get to see resources flourish and remain ours in the long term. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003ESome may accuse the Government of being too focused on economic growth, and not displaying enough care for the environment. Let me assure you that this Government is committed to the environment as much as it is committed to economic growth. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EBefore I finish, there is one important fact I want to share from the perspective of migrants and ethnic groups in New Zealand. I know for a fact that most of us value education. This is the reason that many of us have migrated to countries like New Zealand in search of high-quality education for all of us, and for the generations to come. The steps initiated by the National Government under the very able leadership of the Rt Hon John Key and the Minister of Education, the Hon Hekia Parata, will go a long way to encourage more and more parents and children to seek quality New Zealand education. I also know for a fact that most ethnic minorities\u2014children and parents\u2014have a deep interest in their education. This is reflected in the grades they achieve at school and university level. They also understand that to ensure that they settle nicely in their adopted homeland they must act proactively and make an effort towards achieving higher education, which will empower them economically, and open doors socially for their success. Reforms in the area of education will also attract quality international students to our schools and universities. This is likely to provide other schools and universities with revenue that can be deployed towards better research that fuels innovation and economic growth.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EI am confident that my National Party colleagues will add much more to the above list of this Government\u2019s achievements in the past 3 years, while also listing our plans and strategies for the 3 years to come.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022 data-id=\u00224df6c3cb65ac4aa3b82454ba9a2e47ea\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224df6c3cb65ac4aa3b82454ba9a2e47ea\u0022\u003EDr CAM CALDER (National):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker, very much for the opportunity to rise and speak in the Address in Reply debate. It is an enormous privilege to stand in this House, and it is one that I never take for granted. I am honoured to be back for a second term. As I look into the gallery above me here, I see the many, many men and women\u2014part of that vast army of National Party supporters\u2014who made it possible for this John Key - led National Government to have a second term in power. I thank you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003EIt is a huge pleasure to greet the new members of Parliament in the National team. They have added breadth, experience, character, and staunchness to an already staunch, broad, and characterful line-up. I look forward to working with them in the term ahead. There have been some excellent speeches from across the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c0b1f3bf97de4f2686faf03514fe56f8\u0022\u003EChris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: This isn\u2019t one of them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f46a2d12aa3549e286f0e24b8547dafe\u0022\u003EDr CAM CALDER\u003C/span\u003E: Wait, there is more. Thank you, \u201CChippy\u201D. It is always a pleasure\u2014always a pleasure. There have been some excellent speeches across the House from members of all parties. I am looking forward to working across the House, collegially, with members of all parties, in select committees to make this country a better place. What people may not know is that for 75 percent of legislation there is broad, bipartisan support. What you see in question time is not always what you get. There is a lot of cooperation, and it has to be like that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003EThere is an ancient Chinese curse: \u201CMay you live in interesting times.\u201D Let us face it, these are interesting times. I am thinking particularly of the global financial crisis that we are still in. Despite what the then Leader of the Opposition said in the House almost 12 months ago\u2014that it was over\u2014it is not. We know there are huge problems facing us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003ESure, the news from the United States of America is improving slightly, and the housing, home loan, and unemployment indices are all reasonably positive. But that is still a work in progress. When we look at Europe what do we see but the European Central Bank in December underwriting \u20AC20 billion per week to sovereign bond purchases on the secondary markets to support the struggling eurozone Governments. The eurozone Governments are lurching towards default because of the huge debt. They have got an almost unlimited amount of the low-interest, long-term liquidity loans to European banks, and, as I say, almost unlimited volumes, because these are the major purchasers of the Government debt. So they have got about \u20AC430 billion for them, and let that out on the first day, and there is more to come. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003EThen we think about Greece. It is now \u20AC230 billion to bail out Greece, but the council of Ministers, or the gathering of Ministers, in Brussels have yet to sign that off, because, despite the gritted teeth acceptance of the bailout plan by the MPs, they have not been able to get the coalition leaders to agree. So there has never been a more pressing need for the fiscal responsibility and prudence in New Zealand of a John Key - led Government than we have now, because, as I have said, we live in uncertain times. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003EWe live in uncertain times and, as a result, it is pleasing to see and appropriate to see, and it is absolutely meet and right to see, that fiscal prudence will be an ongoing plank in the 3-year term that lies ahead of us. Prudent financial management, getting more from our public services, and rebuilding Christchurch are three of the main planks, and, of course, improving our trade, underpinning much of what we wish to achieve. The fourth pillar is developing an economy that is more competitive, that is more productive, and that can sell our goods into a wider market, and this is what we have achieved. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003EIt has to be said that there was some very good work by the previous Minister the Hon Phil Goff in negotiating an agreement with China, which has been carried on globally by the Hon Tim Groser, who is doing an outstanding job in developing, broadening, and deepening our links in global trade. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003EOur goal, and we have made no secret of it, is to lift our export sector from 30 percent to 40 percent of gross domestic product. We are aware that under the previous Government the tradable sector languished from 2004 right through until 2008. Indeed, we entered recession well before the rest of the world, and part of that was that we were not competitive. The decline in competitiveness has started to turn round over the last 3 years, and we are determined to continue this improvement. I am getting a word from the whip that we have some maiden speeches, and you did not come here to listen to me. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022 data-id=\u00220def082dda6246fcae0c4fdf26cf7a9c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220def082dda6246fcae0c4fdf26cf7a9c\u0022\u003EMAGGIE BARRY (National\u2014North Shore):\u003C/span\u003E E te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. E ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 reo, e ng\u0101 iwi o ng\u0101 hau e wh\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. To the leaders, to the many voices, to all the diverse people and communities of the four winds, I honour and respect and greet you all. I acknowledge you, Mr Speaker, my parliamentary colleagues, and Sir Don McKinnon. I am indeed honoured to be one of the 26 new members of this 50th Parliament, which, more than any other before it, best represents us: the rich, cultural, and ethnic diversity that is modern New Zealand. Greetings to all my friends up there in the public gallery who made the effort to come along here today. Thank you very much for all your ongoing support. Thank you too to the National Party, to the president, to the board members, to Peter Kiely, and to those assembled\u2014the loyal stalwarts. Many from the North Shore have made the journey here today; many others are watching it on the television or the podcast\u2014there are so many ways to get involved in this auspicious occasion. I acknowledge you all with gratitude. Special thanks go to my North Shore team. I stand here today because of your accumulated wise advice, your enthusiasm, and your tenacity. A year ago, many of you did not even know me, and I am humbled by the loyalty, the trust, and the faith that you all had in me to deliver for the electorate your treasure, your taonga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EHeartfelt thanks to my partner, Grant. We met during an Outward Bound course, which turned out to be an excellent training ground for the campaign trail. Grant has been my mainstay and my No. 1 supporter, and I most certainly would not be here without him. All my love as a mother goes out to my son, Joe. He has taught me more about life in the past 14 years than anyone else ever has. I am incredibly proud of him and very thankful that he is here with us today. My boy, Joseph Vincent, was named after his two grandfathers. On my side we hailed from Counties Cork and Kerry, and my son\u2019s father, Paddy Marron, was born in County Monaghan. Paddy, who is up there in the gallery next to our son, Joe, arrived here in New Zealand from the Emerald Isle on the good ship Southern Cross. It was the very day of his third birthday, and he was clamouring for his presents, as they do. His father told him that he was giving him a very special gift: a new start, and a new life, in a new country. My people were farmers, and this was their land of opportunity too. They were practical people who worked the land and, much like myself, were fond of reinvention and recycling.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003E Actually, as the crow flies I have not come very far at all\u2014about half a kilometre, really, from where I was born in Tinakori Road. These parliamentary buildings\u2014the precinct, as they are known\u2014were always part of the backdrop of my life. It was my favourite shortcut into town through the leafy grounds, past the statues of the great and the good. I went to Sacred Heart School, the convent primary school across the road from here in Guilford Terrace. My family went to mass at the Basilica in Hill Street, which is the church where my parents were married, where I was baptised, and where we held both of their funerals. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EMy mother, Agnes, was the first single woman the Bank of New South Wales had ever given a business loan to. She opened her florist shop round the corner from here, in Molesworth Street, in 1939, the age of the corsage, the funeral wreath, and the American soldiers\u2014all very good for building what became a highly successful business. Raised on a farm in the Depression years, Mum was a hard worker, and to save enough money for her first home she also ran a boarding house, and as part of her wartime duty she worked nights at the glove and munitions factory. On weekends she was the mainstay of the dig for victory vegetable garden team here in Thorndon. To borrow the Sam Hunt line, I am the fruit of old loins. Mum had me, her only child, when she was 43. Never one to peak too early, she later learnt to play golf\u2014hitting a hole in one at the age of 72. Agnes was a remarkable and a determined woman, who taught me many things, including the value of a strong work ethic, the importance of trying your best if you want to achieve the things that matter, and never ever giving in on what you really believe in. In her later years she taught me how to live in the moment, which was perhaps one of her greatest gifts to me. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EDavid, the old man, had a sharp mind and a quick temper. He was very fond of a drink and an argument, and I learnt early on to justify my point of view, or keep quiet. These are skills I feel will come in very handy in this Chamber. Dad had falsified his age to enlist to fight in World War II. He was keen to serve his country, as his father, Edward, had before him at Gallipoli. I was raised to believe that in peacetime the highest form of public service is to be a member of Parliament. I know that they would all be very proud of me standing here today in this Chamber as the first politician in my family. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EMy forebears picked this extraordinary country as the place they wanted to call home, and now my family and I have chosen to cross the harbour and be part of the North Shore community. It is a great privilege for me to be here today representing them, following in the footsteps of such honourable men as George Gair and Wayne Mapp. And I am breaking in some new ground of my own, becoming National\u2019s first-ever woman MP north of the harbour bridge. I was born in the year it opened, in 1959, and I can assure you that we will not be waiting around patiently for another 52 years for a second harbour crossing. The North Shore is defined by water\u2014the glorious Waitemat\u0101 Harbour, the Hauraki Gulf, and the freshwater playground of Lake Pupuke. Shore people work and play on the margins between the ocean and the land. We enthusiastically sail, windsurf, paddleboard, swim, and fish. There is a sense of satisfaction, really, in being different from either our big city or our rural neighbours. There is a tangible sense that we are indeed fortunate to be still enjoying that \u201Cend of the golden weather\u201D lifestyle that was made famous by local playwright Bruce Mason. Laid back\u2014yes, indeed\u2014but never lacking when it comes to energy and vision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EThe North Shore is an unashamedly aspirational community. We have a rich cultural history and the mountains in Devonport were amongst the earliest areas of Auckland to be settled. It was occupied by M\u0101ori from the 1300s, European settlers, with their colonial architecture, began arriving from the mid-1800s, and there was a permanent naval presence by 1841\u2014still strong to this day. Gradually farming was overtaken by shipbuilding, and now tourism and appreciative visitors are a substantial and increasing source of income, as they catch the ferry across from the city to sample the pleasures and diverse heritage of Devonport. Takapuna translates as \u201Cthe rock with a spring\u201D. Against the background of some of the finest beaches in the country springs a strong commercial drive, and along with a handful of multimillion-dollar businesses, the North Shore is home to more than 10,000 small-sized businesses. I pledge to help them overcome any hurdles and to grow their opportunities. Reflecting modern New Zealand, we are a culturally diverse community, with nearly 10,000 Asians making up more than 15 percent of our numbers. As their elected representative, I pledge to do all I can to continue to build on their successes, and to work with other MPs from neighbouring electorates. The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman has been of enormous help to me, and I look forward to working with him more closely in the future, and with Nikki Kaye as well. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EThe North Shore people reward excellence, and we look after our own with the AIMES Awards. We love to crow about our local heroes, our literary greats: Sargeson, Fairburn, Tuwhare, and Mason. There is no certainly no shortage of sporting greats, either, to celebrate: Sir Peter Blake, Ian Ferguson, Ralph Roberts, Buck Shelford, Allison Roe, Kirk Penney and the New Zealand Breakers, Jacko Gill\u2014I could go on; the roll-call does not stop there. As the MP for North Shore, I am committed to building on that outstanding record, and focusing on achieving our aim of becoming the New Zealand centre for high performance sport. North Harbour is already home to the Millennium Institute of Sport and Health, and I would like to acknowledge and commend the hard work and determination of my colleague in the adjoining electorate of East Coast Bays, the Hon Murray McCully. I enthusiastically endorse the proposed National Ocean Water Sports Centre on Takapuna beach. The NOWSC centre will be a world-class training facility to develop up-and-coming athletes across the four codes of yachting, windsurfing, kayaking, and ocean swimming. I commit to helping overcome any hurdles in the formation of that centre. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EThe most commonly asked question of me in the past year has been: \u201CWhy on earth would you leave the wholesome pursuit of plants and go into the dirty business of politics?\u201D. My erstwhile colleagues in the media had a field day when I said I was standing for Parliament: \u201CGardener of the nation takes on the parliamentary jungle.\u201D There were references to \u201Cweeding out the opposition\u201D. Malodorous and odious comparisons were made between MPs and mushrooms, both thriving in perpetual darkness and nourished on manure, and although I do expect that some manure will come my way, I certainly did not come here to be kept in the dark and fed a load of rubbish. Of course, I am not exactly gaining ground by this shift into politics. In last year\u2019s Reader\u2019s Digest most trustworthy professions, poll firefighters came in first, as usual\u2014and fair enough too\u2014journalists came in 38th out of 39, just above real estate agents, and politicians did not even feature in the 40, so I am staying in familiar unpopular territory. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EI have known this Chamber for the past 30 years as a broadcaster and as a journalist, reporting and questioning the not always so honourable members. For all of those whose antics and machinations provided me with that bumper harvest to feed upon, you know who you are and I thank you kindly. I know firsthand from my days in radio and television news about the daily grind of finding news stories within tight deadlines, and I think on the whole the New Zealand media work hard, do a good job, and I congratulate them. But after 30 years of being part of the tribe that reports from sidelines, asking what and why and how, I decided the time was now right for me to step inside the legislative tent and to make a different contribution to the country that has given me so much.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EAs well as being a strong voice for the North Shore, there are also wider goals I am aiming to achieve in my time in this place. It is fair to say that I have some experience in broadcasting, and thanks to my family I have more than a passing interest in the health sector, having led a review into maternity services and palliative care, and being involved with Hospice New Zealand. During my mother\u2019s 10-year decline with dementia I saw with sadness too many older people in residential care who did not have family around, and were without advocates to keep an eye on them. Our elderly deserve dignity and protection. I believe they have earned our respect and we certainly would not be the society that we are today without them. I agree with John Key that the measure of a civilised society is how we treat our vulnerable: our very young and our very old, and the one in five New Zealanders with disability. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EGiven my green-fingered background and lifelong love of plants, I hope that my knowledge and skills may be helpful to shape our environmental and conservation goals. Producing and presenting the garden show for 12 years on television gave me privileged access to people\u2019s lives. Some of them were overwhelmed and daunted by the sheer scale of the planet\u2019s problems, but personally I never doubted that saving the world starts in your own backyard. I share the views of many, that we are only the custodians of this land and the guardians, the kaitiaki, of our grandchildren\u2019s heritage. We have to be vigilant and face up to our responsibilities and our woeful environmental track record. Over many days, over many decades, we have let too many introduced pests decimate our native plants, we have not treated our oceans and our waterways with the respect they deserve, and I want to be part of the Government that puts that right. As the convenor of this year\u2019s up-and-coming Bluegreens Forum, we will be making progress on these issues, and I am excited to be involved in shaping the agenda for discussion around the country\u2019s environmental and conservation concerns. I remain convinced we can both grow our economy and manage our environment better, and that improving the economy must not and need not be at the expense of the environment. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EBut in these troubled times we need to explore all our potential advantages\u2014to tap into that famous traditional Kiwi ingenuity, increase our dairy production and returns, while looking to limit the adverse effect on water quality. In the 20 years I had my garden show business I travelled all over the world visiting over a thousand gardens. It was a dream job and I loved the places I went, but this is my home. New Zealand is my t\u016Brangawaewae. I know where I stand. This is where I belong, and for me I am at my most patriotic about my homeland, and, believe me, I am not about to let anybody harm it. When I walk with the kauri, the p\u014Dhutukawa, and the tree ferns, these are my precious inhabitants of my \u201CCathedrals of Green\u201D. I intend to work very hard on my select committees: the Finance and Expenditure Committee and the Local Government and Environment Committee. I will personally welcome the opportunities to work constructively with politicians from other parties to secure the best outcome. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022736a5c0b-8df3-4047-ba26-632ba2798b4c\u0022\u003EBut ultimately I did not want to join Labour\u2019s ranks, or become a Green Party MP. My values are different. I stood for National because I believe we have the right financial policies to see us through these troubled times. I agree with our goals. My mother and father raised me to believe that hand in hand with individual freedom comes personal responsibility, and that people sometimes do need a hand up, but a lifetime of handouts is not the answer. As a mother I am raising my teenage son with the same values, because I believe that they are as relevant today as they were when our party was founded 75 years ago. My constituents will always have my first loyalty, and I will do my very best to represent their interests with courage and with energy. I will be a strong voice for the North Shore, and I am very ambitious for my electorate. It is a privilege to begin my service to them today as their member of Parliament. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022 data-id=\u002234d856af4bb5449995cc480f75829438\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002234d856af4bb5449995cc480f75829438\u0022\u003EIAN McKELVIE (National\u2014Rangit\u012Bkei):\u003C/span\u003E I rise with a sense of great history to present my maiden speech to Parliament. My Rangit\u012Bkei electorate has had a representative in this House for 150 years. My family have lived in the lower Rangit\u012Bkei for 160 years, and I am the 27th person to come here as a representative of the Rangit\u012Bkei electorate. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI am following some great people into this House, and I want to particularly take this opportunity to acknowledge the wonderful role my predecessor, Simon Power, played in the affairs of both the Rangit\u012Bkei electorate and New Zealand. He made his mark here, and left an impression that will last a long time. Simon is a man who in his time in politics was able to bridge the divide that the Westminster system of democracy creates. I sincerely hope that in my time here I may be able to encourage consensus that sees this House able to make the best possible decisions for our collective futures. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003E I wish to thank all those who have helped make my first few weeks in this place as easy as possible. From all those security people, who look after us on a daily basis, to the Prime Minister, they have been of great assistance. I wish to thank those who have helped me get here, particularly those who supported me during the election campaign, both with the campaign and with my induction into the National Party. A special thanks goes to my wife of 38 years, Sue\u2014she is my No. 1 campaigner\u2014and to our family, Diana, Cam, and Rachel; to Angus and Harri; to my mother, Rosemary; and to two brothers and a sister, who are sitting in the audience today and who have put up with many hours of following, filling in for, making excuses for, and supporting me in my somewhat unexpected career path to date. This career path was probably instilled in my blood by my father, John, a shy man who enjoyed politics and played a part in local government in all too short a life. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EIt is appropriate to acknowledge my near neighbours Iain Lees-Galloway and the Hon Chester Borrows, who represent the cities that will help forge the future for the people of the Rangit\u012Bkei electorate, for without strong leadership from our cities, rural New Zealand suffers. I must also acknowledge Tariana Turia, whose electorate covers the Rangit\u012Bkei and beyond and who is hugely respected for the work she does for our people. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EThe Rangit\u012Bkei electorate\u2014for those who need to know\u2014contains 4.5 million sheep, 400,000 beef cattle, 175,000 dairy cows, and 63,000 people, of whom 28 percent are M\u0101ori. We are also the home to the North Island ski fields, Tongariro National Park, the home bases of the New Zealand Army at Linton and Wai\u014Duru, the Air Force at \u014Ch\u0101kea, and New Zealand\u2019s largest university in Massey. Our electorate contains the brainy part of Palmerston North, stretches over 300 kilometres north to Taumarunui, and contains some of New Zealand\u2019s most beautiful scenery. It also contains the bulk of New Zealand\u2019s fragile hill country, ensuring that the activities of our regional council are critical to the future of that sector. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EMy driver throughout my public life to date has been to create a better place for future generations of my family and yours to live and work in. I am a sixth-generation New Zealander and have eighth-generation grandchildren, and I hope that my family will still be here enjoying our wonderful but different country in eight generations\u2019 time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI will give you a brief synopsis of my life to date before getting into the things that really matter to me and those who encouraged me to aspire to a stint in our Parliament. My family have lived within 2 kilometres of the place I live in since 1850. They have lived in the house I live in since 1900. We are Rangit\u012Bkei people. I was educated a pony ride\u20142 kilometres away on a metal road\u2014from home, before going on to boarding school for the rest of my school life. This was followed by a short stint at Massey University, where I learnt a lot but passed little. I then farmed for quite a time before venturing into the commercial world via the motor industry with two very good friends of mine\u2014and they have survived too and are both here today, as well. This, in turn, led to involvement as a director of various insurance, property, finance, and farming entities. One of those was the Farmers\u2019 Mutual Group, or FMG\u2014the pre-eminent rural insurer in New Zealand\u2014which, despite the events of the past year and a half, is still a very strong and much-needed entity in our industry. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003ESome 9 years ago I was elected as Mayor of the Manawat\u016B District following 4 years as president of the Royal Agricultural Society of New Zealand. My election as mayor taught me so much about the people and things that matter to them, about how to get communities working well, and about disaster, as we were hit by the massive 2004 floods and storms and needed a very large\u2014at the time\u2014recovery package put in place by the Government of the day. It also opened doors for me, and I am currently chairman of Special Olympics New Zealand, a position that has taught me so much about the disability sector in New Zealand. In my life to date I have also been president or chairman of various racing clubs, A and P shows, rugby clubs, our local schools, and a number of other community-based organisations. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EEnough on me and on to why I am here. I was offered an opportunity to stand for the Rangit\u012Bkei electorate seat when Simon Power unexpectedly resigned. It was something I had never aspired to, but it seemed logical that I would take what I have learnt to date and use it in an effort to better our lives as New Zealanders. Those learnings are as follows. My time in agriculture has left me in no doubt that we will always be one of the world\u2019s most efficient food producers, and we will continue to have a very important role to play in feeding pieces of the world as its population grows rapidly. To continue to achieve this, there are a number of issues that we must give attention to. The environment, our people, and our agriculture must travel hand in hand as we grapple with the effects we humans have had on our landforms, our rivers, and our natural heritage. Ecological sustainability is the key to the future of agriculture and our economic fortunes, and whether dealing with genetic engineering or the emissions trading scheme\u2014particularly related to the food production sector or to the environment\u2014we must use the very best science available to us to resolve these matters. They must be resolved expeditiously, and it is vital for our country\u2019s future well-being that we invest heavily in this area. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EAgriculture in New Zealand has had a financial battering over the past decade and must be treated carefully or it could still fail us. It needs nurturing not with cash but with sensible, well-trained policy. Agriculture in recent years in New Zealand has not had a sufficient level of profitability to reinvest in its future through science and innovation. I am delighted to see the Government taking action in this area, and look forward to the sector being able to play its part as well. Whilst on agriculture I want to make a plea for us not to encourage, through suspect policy, the planting of pine trees on land that can be used for food production. Pine trees are difficult to eat, and they are certainly difficult to get income out of, as well. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI also urge you as a Parliament to give time and thought to our equine industry. We are good at horses. It is international in almost every sphere of equine activity, and it has great potential if nurtured in the correct manner. The horse, particularly through the racing and breeding industry, is a very large employer in this country, and I have yet to see a robot riding one\u2014Mark Todd aside\u2014or a computer mucking out a stable. Encouraging the equine sector to work with each other in a unified manner could boost this sector significantly as an export earner. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003ERural New Zealand, its towns and its people, is very important to our futures, and we must endeavour to keep people living throughout our country. It is not in the national interest to push our population north. We must encourage people to live in our small rural towns and on our farms. To do this we must carefully consider the ramifications of much of our policy making, as often small changes can improve the lot of those people dramatically. And I refer particularly to the manner in which telecommunications, electricity, education, health, law and order, and transport services are delivered to rural New Zealand. An example of that is the poor supply of electricity to parts of New Zealand. It is a major inhibitor to economic growth, with a number of areas in my electorate not having sufficient supply to enable new cowsheds or irrigation schemes to operate efficiently. Part of the reason for this has been a lack of sufficient land use planning throughout our history, really\u2014a factor that must be corrected. Another factor that is easy to overlook but which is a very important factor in an electorate like Rangit\u012Bkei is the time our children spend on the school bus, and 2 to 3 hours a day is not uncommon in my electorate\u2014hence the ferociousness with which rural communities defend their small schools. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EBriefly on the matter of our broader economy, a topic that I think we need to have some serious discussion on is our poor understanding of risk\u2014how to evaluate it and how to manage it. This is one of the factors behind the increase in the cost of local government to our community and to businesses, and is driven, to some extent, by our interpretation of the Building Act, the Resource Management Act, and occupational health and safety, among other things. Without capacity to understand, manage, and utilise risk, businesses struggle to expand. Most of the great businesses in the world took significant calculated risk to grow. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI do not believe we should take anything for granted in life. I do not think we have any rights in life, property or otherwise. We must earn them. I have a strong belief in what I call social order or justice, and that often means that those who have should give a hand up to those who have not. Where I come from, unhappy people do not make a happy workforce, and our country cannot operate effectively with an unhappy workforce. To achieve this we must have a strong, progressive economy, enabling us to pay what a person is worth. We can no longer allow the well-off to claim on the welfare systems by hiding income or assets. There is no place in New Zealand society for greed, and we have seen and suffered from plenty of that in the last few years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EThrough family experience, and more recently through my role as chairperson of Special Olympics New Zealand, I have a particular interest in the lives and circumstances of our disabled community. There are an estimated 55,000 people born with an intellectual disability in this country, a large majority of whom are males. There are nearly a quarter of a million physically disabled New Zealanders. We know that investment in this sector produces significant gains for the people and families involved and for our country as a whole. I will continue my strong advocacy for these New Zealanders and support them in their efforts to achieve better life expectancy and make a greater contribution to our society. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003ESport and recreation is one of the gems in life\u2014without it we do not survive\u2014and we must continue to encourage young and old alike to participate in all levels of physical activity. To do this, some key changes are needed to our traditional thinking around sporting infrastructure. We need diverse, climate-immune facilities and we need to be able to provide easy access for people who wish to exercise from home\u2014for example, walking, biking, and boarding. I call it door-to-door exercise, and to achieve this our communities must be safe and our infrastructure must be safe, well planned, and well maintained. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EOne could not have spent 9 years in local government without acknowledging there must be a better way, and there is and it does not involve dramatic change. In past years local government has struggled with the costs of implementing legislation passed on to it by central government. A good deal of it came care of the stringent but expansive conditions placed on councils by the Local Government Act 2002. There are, at the same time, many talented and able people doing a wonderful job in what is a complex and very demanding sector. I can only commend the Prime Minister for elevating the local government portfolio to an important place in Cabinet, and I think it is the first time I recall it being in Cabinet for some years. I wish Minister Smith all the best as he confronts the many challenges that lie before local authorities throughout New Zealand. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EIn this country we are seriously testing our talented-people resources by the number of governance bodies we have created, and as a consequence we have the requirement for large numbers of chief executives, chief financial officers, and elected members or directors. Many of these are becoming specialised positions, often prescribed by law, and we need to ensure we use our talented people to the best possible advantage. We should also bear in mind that letters after one\u2019s name are not necessarily a prerequisite for success in life. There is no question that the further we spread the talent pool in New Zealand, the lesser the talent we have available. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI am in awe of this place and its history, but was surprised on opening day when Parliament emptied out as our leaders spoke. Whatever our political persuasion, we owe each other the common courtesy of at least listening once in relative calmness. You cannot fool the people. Respect and common old good manners are still valued by most in this country, and they watch us closely through our friends\u2014the media. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EPeople are everything in life. Without each other we are nothing. No matter what race, creed, sex, age, or ability\u2014mental or physical\u2014everyone in this wonderful country must be cared for and encouraged to achieve their best. There is no left and right in good health, educational opportunity, having work, or preventing violence to one another. To achieve this, we must have an inclusive Government and take the people with us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI am a great believer in protocol and tradition. It puts some order and discipline in our lives, and on that basis I wish to congratulate you, Mr Speaker, and your team of deputies on your appointments. Although I am absolutely sincere in this, it does remind me a little of dropping off a leg of lamb for the banker. Mr Speaker and fellow members of this great establishment, despite being written off as being too old and not expected to shine by some Australian tip sheet, I hope in my time here to make a contribution to New Zealand, and I hope that when I get to leave, and I hope to choose that time, that our country is a better place to live in. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022 data-id=\u0022150f541e05944ad997654484e9eef7c8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022150f541e05944ad997654484e9eef7c8\u0022\u003EMARK MITCHELL (National\u2014Rodney):\u003C/span\u003E I stand before you today filled with pride at being given the opportunity by the people of Rodney to represent them in this, our 50th Parliament, and I am honoured to be addressing the House for the first time. Mr Speaker, I congratulate you on your reappointment to the high office of Speaker. You have already been recognised across this House for your sound judgment and fairness, and I look forward to being under your guidance in this Chamber. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EMr Speaker, you have been Minister of Education, Minister of Agriculture, Minister of Tourism, and Minister for International Trade during your career, and oversaw the producer board reform that ultimately led to the creation of Fonterra and Zespri Group Ltd. You launched our successful \u201C100% Pure\u201D marketing campaign, which was a global success. But perhaps most important, you were the original instigator of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. You are also renowned for your singing voice, and your annual concert in Rodney is an event constituents look forward to every year. I have made a commitment to continue with this concert, and although I feel my own voice is pretty good I have been assured by those closest to me that I need to find another way of keeping that tradition alive. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EI live in \u014Crewa, in the heart of the Rodney electorate. Rodney is a wonderful part of New Zealand, stretching from Albany Heights, Wainui, and Dairy Flat in the south, to Warkworth, Matakana, and Leigh in the north. We have been blessed with the beautiful Hibiscus and Kowhai coasts, stunning regional parks like Shakespear Regional Park, Wenderholm, and Mahurangi, and we are home to two marine reserves, one of which, Goat Island, was the first in New Zealand. The new Northern Motorway has brought Auckland closer to Rodney, and our towns in the south of the electorate are experiencing strong growth while still retaining their unique character. Further north, our communities are more rural. Some have become famous, like P\u016Bhoi for its pub and cheese factory, or Waiwera for its geothermal hot pools. We have the charm and history of Warkworth, world-class wine trails, great schools, strong communities, and a real pride in our beautiful part of New Zealand. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EHowever, there are challenges ahead and I am focused on finding solutions that will allow us to develop our infrastructure and services in step with our population growth. This includes the P\u016Bhoi to Wellsford motorway extension and the Penlink development, and I will work hard on common-sense policies and legislation that will encourage investment and growth in our local businesses and economy. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EI would like to acknowledge my superb campaign team, who worked incredibly hard, who did the basics superbly, combined with innovative ideas, and really took the campaign to our opponents. I know many of you are gathered around the TV today in Warkworth and \u014Crewa, and although I cannot mention everyone, you know that our result was a testament to your drive, passion, and belief in the National Party values and vision for a brighter future. I would like to make special mention of our electorate chair, Jennie Georgetti, and campaign chair, John Evans. Your determination and will were contagious. Thanks also to our regional executive, Alan Towers and Stephen McElrea. Stephen, your solid, dependable advice and guidance was of great assistance to a new candidate. Thanks to our National campaign team who provided a steady rudder and reliable compass to us all, and to president Peter Goodfellow and our board of directors for your support, guidance and counsel. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EI was born on the North Shore of Auckland and spent my first years living on the Whenuapai Airbase. My dad was a flight lieutenant, flying Orions in No. 3 squadron. My mum was the daughter of the base commander, Air Commodore Frank Gill\u2014my grandfather\u2014who was also the National Party MP for East Coast Bays, Minister of Health, and Minister of Defence, and our New Zealand Ambassador to Washington. Dad managed to catch the eye of my mum at a base dance and the rest, as they say, is history. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EOne of the great lessons I learnt early from my dad was about not giving up. When the inaugural Auckland Star Takapuna to Rangitoto race was cancelled due to bad weather, Dad decided to make the swim anyway. He battled strong winds and swells to complete a difficult swim. He won the race and set the best time. Being the only competitor did not matter. Because my mum was the daughter of a career air force officer and spent her childhood on different postings around the world, when she was finally able to settle in one place she nested. There were four of us kids, but our house was always filled with orphans whom Mum would take under her wing. I learnt early that not everyone is born into a loving, caring home, and that when we can help, we should. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EI am from Irish Catholic, English, and Canadian stock, with my ancestors arriving in New Zealand from 1860 through to 1919. I was educated at Rosmini College in Auckland, a Catholic school, whose motto is \u201CLegis plenitudo charitas\u201D\u2014charity fulfils the law. A Google search of social justice will result in the name of Father Antonio Rosmini, the original founder of the school. I am a strong advocate of social justice. However, I reject claims that social justice and conservatism are exclusive of one another. On leaving school I went farming in the central North Island. I was lucky enough to be given my first job by Gary Ramsay, who is here today in the gallery. Farming taught me what long hours of hard physical work and graft were all about. Our farmers and our rural sector is where our No. 8 wire attitude and common-sense approach to problem solving was born. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EFrom my own time overseas in a competitive environment, I discovered that those problem-solving skills and \u201Cfailure is not an option\u201D attitude helped me stand out amongst the crowd. As a country we need to recognise the importance of these qualities and fight hard to retain them as part of our culture and psyche. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EIn 1989 I joined the New Zealand Police. I was a member of the dog section and armed offenders squad. I would like to acknowledge the officer in charge of the police dog training centre, Sergeant John Edmonds, who is here today. I was lucky enough to have been able to serve with you, and it is a great honour to have you present here today. My partner on the dog section was a small black German shepherd named Czar. When we graduated, our final report stated Czar was a natural-born police dog, and that if the team did not perform operationally, the handler should be replaced, not the dog. He loved children but did not have much time for adults. One of the first jobs we attended together put us head to head with an offender armed with a samurai sword, whose intent was to attack medical staff at Rotorua Hospital. During the arrest both Czar and I were stabbed\u2014me through my right arm and Czar in the chest. We both recovered, although I never regained the full use of my arm. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EI thank the Hon Judith Collins for the leadership she provided in making sure our police officers were given every tactical advantage and option available. Had Tasers been around in my day, I would have had a much better tennis swing. One thing I could see early in my career was the amount of damage gangs and organised crime did to our communities. Whether they be the Mongrel Mob, Hell\u2019s Angels, or Asian triads, they are parasites living off the back of our communities and a bunch of low-life cowards. Hunting in packs, they rob, steal, rape, murder, intimidate, assault, and generally terrorise anyone unlucky enough to get in their way. Many of the social issues we face today are connected either directly or indirectly to the gang culture. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EOur police service is now being led by leaders rather than managers. With morale the highest it has been for years and with the best police officers in the world we are on the right side of the ledger in continuing to tackle gangs and organised crime. Our brave men and women of all our emergency services have my full support, admiration, and gratitude for the services you provide our country. I make a commitment to my electorate that I will be strong on law and order and will support changes to bail laws that strengthen the rights and protection for victims of crime. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EOur Rodney health services are very important, with a growing population and a high number of older people choosing to retire in Rodney. I support our locally driven initiatives, like the Rodney Health Trust and the Rodney Surgical Centre, which are providing local services for our communities. I am proud of how far we have come as a country in our understanding, caring, and tolerance of those suffering from a mental illness or depression. I was often asked if I was angry at the person who stabbed me, who at the time was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. No, I was not angry with him. He did not wake up one morning saying: \u201CI want to be a paranoid schizophrenic.\u201D He was ill with a sickness he did not want. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EIn 2000 I lost my younger brother, Sean. He was intelligent, the life of the party, an active member of the Auckland coastguard rescue team, and was diagnosed with manic depression. He wrote a letter to us, his family, and then swam into the Rangitoto Channel. We found him the next day washed up on Rangitoto Island. We love and miss you, Sean. I applaud John Kirwan and the courage it took to tell his own story about depression and the debilitating effects it can have. I am committed to supporting the mental health services in our communities. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EIn 2002 I resigned from the police to live a quiet life raising and training horses in Taup\u014D. But fate had other plans, and in 2003 I found myself in Iraq as part of a small team establishing a safety and security programme for the newly formed interim Government. It was a tough year for me, because it was the first time in my life I was exposed to the ugliness of corruption and extreme ideologies in a country where there was very little regard for human life. The first election in Iraq had over 7,000 candidates for 235 parliamentary positions. Opposing candidates would dispose of each other with roadside bombs and hit squads. It helped me to put a little context around the teapot tapes last year. In 2005 I was asked to establish the Provincial Joint Operations Centre in southern Iraq. This was the command centre for all the newly formed Iraqi security forces. Iraq faces some very big challenges in its rebuild, but I was lucky enough to work with some very good men and women, and, where there are good men and women, there is hope. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EIn 2005 I was approached and asked to establish a security programme for a company that was providing food and life support to the coalition in Iraq. Seen as a legitimate target by al-Qaeda as they were supporting the Government, employees of the company were being attacked and killed. The security programme I put in place was successful and soon I was being approached by Governments, including the United States, Japan, and Australia, to assist with logistics and protective support in high-threat and difficult environments. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EAlthough I have the deepest respect for organisations such as the United Nations, I also saw how difficult it was for big, bureaucratic organisations to move quickly when sometimes people needed protection and aid today, as it would be too late tomorrow. I am proud of the fact I was part of a dedicated team that formed an initiative backed by the World Economic Forum to create emergency logistics teams set up to deploy aid into areas struck by humanitarian disasters. I am proud that we led refugees out of Lebanon to safety when they were trapped in a war between Israel and Hezbollah, that we protected and supported scientists from the Hague to open and take evidence from mass graves in their case against Saddam Hussein, that we delivered food and medical supplies to flood-ravaged areas of Pakistan and ensured it got to the people who needed it, and that we were able to open up a supply chain to get food and medical supplies into Darfur and Mogadishu. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EI have been a farmer, a policeman, a small business owner, and the founder of a successful global company. I understand the pressures they face, the responsibility they carry, and the importance that each one plays in the future of our country. But they cannot carry the weight by themselves. I believe that for the privilege of living in this beautiful country, regardless of when we arrived, we all have the same obligation, and that is to look for ways to contribute to New Zealand\u2019s future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EFinally, I would like to acknowledge my family. To my wife, Peggy\u2014I would not be standing here today delivering this maiden speech if it was not for your unconditional love and support. You have helped me achieve my dream, and I hope that I can help you achieve yours. To my children, Taylor, Spencer, and Jazlin\u2014your father was taken away from you and New Zealand too early. Possum was the only sportsman in New Zealand to beat the Aussies in their own national championship seven times in a row\u2014what a legend. But first and foremost, he was a loving and caring father. I will continue to do my best to provide you with the love and security that your father would have provided. To my daughter, Sylvie\u2014yes, honey, it did feel like life had really begun for me when you came into this world, and I am proud of the caring young lady you are growing into. To my son, Nathan\u2014you\u2019re the man. Your energy and enthusiasm for life is contagious. To my sisters, Lissa and Tracey\u2014I love you both. Thank you to my Auntie Francis and Uncle Rodney, and to Geoffrey and Lynda Bourne, for also being here. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EI am back in the service of my country. There is no greater honour. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022 data-id=\u00229abdd9ba023e45c2be05c7bb2cb69318\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229abdd9ba023e45c2be05c7bb2cb69318\u0022\u003ESIMON O\u2019CONNOR (National\u2014T\u0101maki):\u003C/span\u003E In 1854 this House met for the first time on the outskirts of Auckland. It consisted of just 37 people. Those 37 could scarcely imagine how New Zealand would change over the coming century and a half. Since that time 1,362 people have held seats in Parliament and each one has given a maiden speech. It is difficult to imagine how I might say something original, but I will give it a shot. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EMaiden speeches seem to me a curious exercise. They are an introduction, a moment of history, and a statement for posterity all at once. They are also time for reflection at the beginning of a new chapter in which each of us can consider the events in our lives that have led us to this place at this point of time. I, like all who have stood in this House, have been asked many times why I decided to enter Parliament and politics. I have always noted that there was no one particular moment. It has been an organic process that has developed slowly over many years while working alongside people from all walks of life. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI have worked in many challenging environments, from prisons and homeless shelters, to rest homes and hospitals; from the streets of Brooklyn, New York, to the island of Taveuni in Fiji. In doing so, I have seen some of the best and worst aspects of humanity. I have sat with those mourning the dead, and celebrated the hope of a newborn child. I have encouraged those who suffer under the curse of drug addiction, counselled those who work on the streets, and listened to those off the streets who simply need to be heard. It has, for me, been the stories shared, the struggles endured, and the experiences lived that have drawn me more and more to this new opportunity to serve New Zealand here in this House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EThe varied experiences that have filled my life thus far cause me to look forward to working for the great constituency of T\u0101maki and engaging with its communities, from St Heliers to Glen Innes, \u014Cr\u0101kei to Glendowie, and all the suburbs in between. I love working with people and for people. It has defined my life to date, and I hope and expect it will do so far into the future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI have come to Parliament with not only a desire to serve the people of this country, but also a conviction that ideas are powerful things. I believe that ideas, well articulated, can change the world. The importance of robust, rational debate is a passion of mine\u2014one that requires the constant and consistent application of considered principles. I reject political fundamentalism where part of the truth is overemphasised at the expense of everything else. No great idea needs such a dishonest offence. Some might consider me optimistic to hope that in this auspicious Chamber there is still room for genuine debate and constructive discussion. About this I may be optimistic, but there are few things I think far more deserving of optimism than this place of thoughts and ideas, of discussions and debates. I hope that in the coming years I may contribute something to them all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI seek to contribute because I am a proud New Zealander. I am a Kiwi through and through, having spent most\u2014almost all\u2014of my life in Whangarei and Auckland. There are those who question what it means to be a New Zealander. They suppose we lack an identity or lament that it is not what they would wish it to be. I have no time for such a myopic perspective. New Zealand has a clear and strong identity, which has grown and evolved over the centuries that have preceded us. Most Kiwis know who they are and what they stand for, and spend very little time worrying about labelling it. Some of our principles have changed over time, but the most important ones, our fundamental values, have not. The importance of family, hard work, personal responsibility, and a fair go for all remains central to who we are. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EOf course one cannot stand in this room and speak of great Kiwi traditions without acknowledging our extraordinary democracy. I believe that New Zealand has the best democratic and constitutional structure in the world. I realise that this is not a thought that occurs to many people on a frequent basis, but this is probably more of a testament to its veracity than anything else. My belief in our constitution has arisen not from ideology or blind patriotism but from an appreciation developed over many years of observation and study. Democracy is not something that should ever be taken for granted. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EAt the heart of our constitution sits the Crown. It is an ingenious, ever-evolving entity that plays a role in so many aspects of our country. It is a valuable guardian of our democracy, a symbol of our independence, and a sign of our political resourcefulness. I am pleased to acknowledge today the 60 years of service that the Queen of New Zealand has given to all Kiwis. It is my hope that in the years ahead New Zealand may make its own monarchy ever more distinct and an even more uniquely Kiwi institution. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI suspect that most here today would agree that New Zealand is the greatest country on earth. But that is not to say it is a perfect nation. Again, I suspect that most here are cognisant of the many problems our society faces. Foremost among them is the scourge of violence in our society. If there is one general area to which I wish to apply my time and experience it is to ending, or at least greatly reducing, violence in our communities. Of course, there is no single solution, no quick fix. It is a perennial issue that has been grappled with by successive parliaments. I believe that this National-led Government is taking great steps in the right direction, but there is much work still to be done. Some is legislative, but the most difficult work is changing attitudes. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI fear that New Zealand accepts violence too easily. Aggression is celebrated, verbal and emotional abuse is tolerated in public discourse, and people are willing to turn a blind eye towards those suffering at the hands of bullies. The prevalence of domestic violence, violence against children, and the random acts of violence on our streets is a sad indictment of us all. I do not believe that it is a simple matter to resolve this tragedy, but neither do I feel that it is hopeless. Like all problems we face in New Zealand, we begin with a commitment to fix what is wrong, to persevere in what is required, and to accept only success. This is how we have tackled problems in our past, and this is what is required now to build a safe and secure society for all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EThis room is full of leaders, representatives of their constituencies and communities. Their commitment to ending violence in our country is essential, but the work of many others outside this building is also required. Fortunately, New Zealand has no shortage of dedicated, principled, and energetic citizens. I feel it is important to recognise that none of us stands in this Parliament alone. We are born into a community, live in that community, and as individuals are at our strongest when we are in the midst of that community and those who matter the most. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EThere are many people to whom I owe a huge debt of gratitude for their support and encouragement over the years and who have been very influential in my being here today. My parents, Rory and Colleen, are in the gallery this afternoon. A son could have not had better parents and my gratitude can only ever be a small measure of what I owe to them. If there is one lesson amongst the many they taught me and that I can bring to Parliament it is that love is not an economic commodity or one that is scarce when times are tough. Sitting with them are my siblings, Bernadette and Vincent. I am lucky to have such a great brother and sister. When required, they know how to put me in my place\u2014a skill several people in this room will be interested in hearing about I am sure. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003ETo my friends across this country and around the world, I would like to thank you for the insights and humour, lessons, and memories. William Yeats said: \u201CThink where man\u2019s glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had such friends.\u201D Truer words have not been spoken. To those friends here today, I say thanks to you and, through you, to all who could not be here. To Ben Lee, Charles and Leigh Hay, Lynne Francis and Sean Palmer, Gordon Pilot, to Paul Foster-Bell, Chloe Oldfield, Brian Anderton, Aaron Hape, and Paul Byers\u2014thank you all for your help and encouragement over the years. I thank the Auckland University fencers for all the fun, the laughter, the debates, and the bruises. I am optimistic that my years of fencing may have well prepared me for the cut and thrust of this political place. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI acknowledge my caucus colleagues for the help and support that they have given me over the last few months. I would particularly like to thank Dr Jackie Blue and Dr Cam Calder, both of whom I have worked closely with over the past 6 years. The opportunity to be part of your electorates and to lead your campaign teams was great preparation for my own path to Parliament. I must also acknowledge my predecessor, Allan Peachey. His sad passing last year cut short the work he sought to undertake in this House. I want to recognise his family, and the kindnesses they have shown me as I have prepared to represent T\u0101maki in this House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003ET\u0101maki is an electorate with a formidable story, a narrative known all over the country. I am conscious of the role I play in writing its next chapter, but fortunately I am not the sole author. I am pleased to work alongside the finest electorate team in New Zealand\u2014Andrew Hunt, Christine MacFarlane, Jim McElwain, and Aaron Bhatnagar are here today. I am immensely proud to be your MP, and conscious of your expectations. I will not let you down. Ros Rundle, Adriana Gunder, Eric Hansen, Phil Martell, Simon King, Cher Reynolds, Mariana Nordmark, Sharon Ludher-Chandra, Todd Mulller, Dan Gardiner, Graham and Matt Malaghan, Kit Parkinson, and Cyrus Richardson form the electorate leadership team, but could not be here today. Without their help and support, I would not be either. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI am grateful to the National Party for the opportunities it has provided me. My commitment to our shared principles is absolute. I am conscious that my selection as an MP is both a privilege and a responsibility. The list of those who have helped guide me to this role is long, and I cannot thank each one by name, but I hope all of them know how much I appreciate their efforts and their friendships. I will thank in particular Alastair Bell and Alan Towers, Nicholas Albrecht, Josh Beddell, Alan Conlon, James Palmer, Murray Broadbelt, Chris King, and Scott Simpson, who was the first party figure with whom I spoke of my parliamentary aspirations. Scott, I am thrilled that we enter this 50th Parliament together. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000436\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EIt is an honour to be here as the member of Parliament for T\u0101maki. It is a welcome opportunity to serve my constituency, to listen to their needs, and to articulate them here in this House. I look forward to the future in my new role but, in the finest conservative traditions, I will venture into that future with a clear understanding of, and respect for, the past. I will work hard to live up to the expectations of our first 37 parliamentarians who, 150 years ago, launched New Zealand\u2019s democracy. I believe this 50th Parliament is the heir to all the hopes and dreams of the thousand MPs who have come before us. We are here today to build a better country, and I hope that those who occupy this House 150 years from now might look back upon us and say that we were successful. I can think of no greater honour than to know that I may have been a part of that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022 data-id=\u00220fba37f5bb8244e985e71184bc9ba2fa\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000437\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220fba37f5bb8244e985e71184bc9ba2fa\u0022\u003ESCOTT SIMPSON (National\u2014Coromandel):\u003C/span\u003E Mr Speaker, congratulations on your re-election, and also to your fellow presiding officers on their appointment to roles overseeing the smooth and efficient conduct of our proceedings during this 50th Parliament of New Zealand. It is with a mixture of great pride, awe, and humility that I rise to speak as the new MP for Coromandel. I am very conscious of the huge honour I have been given by my party in being selected as a candidate, and of the even greater honour granted to me by the people of Coromandel in electing me to be their voice, their representative, their face, in this place. I acknowledge a fellow contestant for the seat, Catherine Delahunty, who sits in this House by virtue of the Green Party list. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000438\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ECoromandel evokes in the minds of almost every New Zealander the very best images of the classic Kiwi summer\u2014beautiful beaches, iconic bush, and natural scenery second to none in our country. Indeed, the peninsula proper is not only home to people who get to enjoy those gems on a daily basis, it is also the favoured holiday destination for tens of thousands of visitors each year, who now access and exit the area over our wonderful new K\u014Dp\u016B Bridge. No longer are they subject to long delays and frustrating traffic jams, and in fact a story published locally in Thames just last week commenting on how well the new bridge had coped with heavier than expected Waitangi weekend traffic summed it up beautifully with the simple headline \u201CThank you Mr Key\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000439\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EBut the Coromandel electorate is more than just the Coromandel Peninsula. It includes the Hauraki Plains, our dairy heartland, through the scenic Karangahake Gorge to Waih\u012B and Waih\u012B Beach, and south to the jewel of the western Bay of Plenty, Katikati. It is a diverse electorate, an electorate with a rich heritage and a bright future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000440\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EIt is an electorate mature in its demographic. We have the highest number of people aged between 50 and 64, and the second-highest number of people aged 64-plus of any electorate in New Zealand. When added together, those two age segments highlight a series of issues confronting us, not the least of which is how to encourage more young people to make Coromandel their home and to raise their families in our part of paradise. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000441\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThe answer lies in economic development, jobs, and prosperity, and I am very pleased to be a member of a John Key - led Government committed to encouraging economic growth for provincial and rural New Zealand. I am looking forward to supporting existing well-established agricultural, fishing, tourism, and manufacturing businesses and to encouraging the establishment of new, innovative, and exciting enterprises. In particular, I am looking forward to the new opportunities to be created by an expansion of our already excellent aquacultural sector, which will bring further jobs and enterprise to our area. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EMy predecessor, Sandra Goudie, devoted herself unstintingly to the people of Coromandel. Today I pledge the same devotion in the hope that the aspiration she and I both have for Coromandel can and will be continuously advanced here in Parliament and within our wider community. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000443\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EAlthough most of my working life has been in commerce and business, for the last few years I have had the very great privilege of being chief executive officer of the greatest little charity in New Zealand, Make-a-Wish. It is a charity devoted to a simple mission of granting the one cherished wish of children and young people coping with life-threatening, sometimes terminal, medical conditions. Members, let me assure you there can be no greater joy than to work in a job where literally, on a daily basis, you are a professional wish granter. It remains to be seen whether I will be able to transfer that skill set to this workplace. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000444\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EGranting wishes to very ill youngsters taught me many things, most of which I guess I already knew, but some experiences certainly reinforced for me some simple life truths. Life is not fair. Bad stuff does happen. Bad stuff happens irrespective of family, circumstance, age, gender, wealth, or location. But on the other hand, small things count. Small gestures of kindness and goodwill have enormous power and magic not just for children and young people coping with dire medical conditions, but for all people, all humans, all mankind. These are things I hope never to forget during my time in this place. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000445\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ESeventy-six years ago the National Party was formed by far-sighted people with a far-sighted national vision for a better New Zealand. Seventy-six years ago New Zealand was a new, pioneering nation still struggling to come to terms with the worst local and world economic depression ever known\u2014a country still reeling from the human and emotional impacts of the Great War, where the sacrifice of young New Zealand blood was greater than a new, developing nation found tolerable to bear.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000446\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E Both my grandfathers served at Gallipoli. Both eventually returned home, although one was wounded at Gallipoli, patched up, and then sent to fight on in France. The plaques adorning this Chamber stand as honourable tribute to that sacrifice and to subsequent further Kiwi sacrifice, silent but powerful reminders to each of us of the past high price paid by others for our freedom to be here today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000447\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EMany of those early National Party founders were the sons and daughters of immigrant pioneering families. Like the tangata whenua who had arrived centuries earlier, they came with little in the way of personal possessions. But they came with the greatest asset of all: a gritty, stubborn, and unshakable belief that through hard work, determination, and passion their dreams of a better life than the one they had left behind could be forged for their children and grandchildren in a new, little country, rich in natural resources, and blessed with a moderate climate and fertile soils. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000448\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EToday we are all the beneficiaries of that determination, hard work, and foresight. Each member of this House has progressed a journey to be here. Some have been catapulted almost unexpectedly here. Others, like me, have watched the affairs of our Parliament from the sidelines for years, and many, like me, have been volunteer activists within our party organisational wings for far longer than we care to remember. I have done so since schooldays. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000449\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EActive participation in our democracy is important, and although I have had my fair share of ups and downs, it will always be my advice to political friend or foe alike to get involved, be active, have your say, and always fight for what you believe in. Doing so may not always result in the outcomes sought, but doing so will mean that you have had the satisfaction of being a participant, rather than a mere observer who simply has to live with the result destined by those who did choose to step up and get involved. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EFor me the game started early, while I was still at school. The year was 1975\u2014hard to believe, I know. Rob Muldoon was barnstorming his way to a huge victory over Labour. My hard-working parents were running the small 7-day-a-week business they had established early in their married life. We lived in Mount Eden\u2014the suburb, not the prison. It was my School Certificate year. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EIt was the Eden electorate. Aussie Malcolm was the National candidate running against a first-term Labour MP, Mike Moore. Eden was the most marginal bell-wether seat in New Zealand. Aussie Malcolm ran under the provocative campaign slogan \u201CMalcolm will do Moore for Eden\u201D. The politics was intense, exciting, and, as it turned out for me, highly addictive. I guess for a teenager in the 1970s, given the range of possible addictions on offer, politics was at the lower end of the parental concern spectrum. Aussie Malcolm went on to beat Mike Moore, and the rest is, as they say, history. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EOver the years I have developed an enormous regard for the army of ordinary Kiwis from all walks of life who make up the volunteer wing of the National Party. No National MP sits in this House without the support, endorsement, and backing of those people. I would like to acknowledge and thank all those people who have helped me along the way. An embarrassingly large number are here with me in the gallery today, along with friends and members of both my close and extended family. Thank you for your ongoing support, friendship, and love. My Coromandel team was during the campaign, and remain so today, a truly outstanding team of people\u2014too many to name individually, but so ably led by electorate chairman, Ian McClean, and campaign manager, Heather Tanner. Thank you, one and all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EFor those interested in such things, the maiden speech of Sir Jack Marshall, delivered in this House 65 years ago, is regarded as setting the benchmark in terms of defining what we these days label as liberal conservatism. And it is to that subject I now turn. Let me make it clear at the outset that the concept of liberalism does not mean at all anything to do with the touchy-feely, namby-pamby, soft-soap approach so often the political homeland of parties on the left. Rather, liberalism is an acknowledgment that as a citizen I have the right to live my life in my own way, provided only that this does not interfere with the rights of others; that I should be free to do as I wish, subject only to the rule of law. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThe Hon Chris Finlayson teased out these concepts in his own maiden speech. He said, and I agree entirely, that the left may have admitted that the right won the great economic debate of the 20th century and that socialism in its many and varied forms has failed, but the left still wants to regulate and control. Its natural instinct remains one of \u201Conly we know best\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000455\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EFor me the contrast between that view and the view of the National Party could not be more stark. National Party principles are liberal principles: a belief that personal effort and initiative should be rewarded; a belief that individual responsibility and accountability for our own actions and, indeed, inactions provide the foundation stones of our society; a belief that it is individuals who are best placed to make decisions about their future, not the State; and that free, open, and property-owning democracy provides the best model of Government. These are the values and principles the National Party was founded on 76 years ago, and they are principles that are as relevant today as ever they were. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000456\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThe principles on which our society is built, in spite of vocal minorities who would work to make it not so, are principles of liberal democracy. But liberalism and democracy are actually two different things. Democracy is a method for choosing and removing Governments. Liberalism, on the other hand, is a doctrine about what society ought to be, what Governments should or should not do, and, above all, liberalism is a doctrine that defines limits to Government power. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EI am convinced there is a common thread of liberalism through our nation, whether we choose to recognise it or not. That common thread encompasses freedom of action and of individual rights, tempered by a willingness not to interfere with the rights of others whilst pursuing our own. It encompasses a society of racial and religious tolerance, one of equality of opportunity and equality before the law. The suggestion that a liberal is someone who wants to liberalise everything is, of course, entirely wrong. Merely recognising and respecting the ideas and opinions of others does not mean the same thing at all as accepting, embracing, or adopting those ideas. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EIt is not a question of what we are prepared to tolerate as a society but, rather, what we are prepared to defend. For me it is the defence of a relentlessly optimistic outlook for my electorate and for our nation; the defence of that gritty, stubborn, and unshakable belief that a brighter, more prosperous future lies ahead for our children and our grandchildren if only we here today, in this place and of this generation, have the personal and collective strength to step up and make it so. For a little country with so much going for us we spend far too much time and energy focusing on the things that hold us back, on the roadblocks and the reasons why things cannot be so. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EAs I conclude this, my first address in our House of Representatives, mark me down as one who stands firmly on the side of those who can do and will do. Mark me down as a supporter of growth and opportunity. Mark me down as a champion of individual rights over State rights, of freedom and tolerance tempered at all times by the often forgotten important obligation of responsibility for actions and inactions. Mark me down as a defender of our very best liberal democratic values, and as a staunch advocate for volunteer political activism. Mark me down as a new member who has come here now to be an active and energetic participant from within, rather than a casual spectator from the sidelines. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EI am a fourth-generation New Zealander of European descent. My great-grandparents arrived in Kuat\u014Dunu on the Coromandel Peninsula in the mid-1800s. I am the very proud father of Andrew and Ashleigh. My name is Scott Simpson. I am the National Party member of Parliament for Coromandel reporting for duty.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022 data-id=\u00221f24aa9178c5432194dc2e633d26b24e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221f24aa9178c5432194dc2e633d26b24e\u0022\u003EDr JIAN YANG (National):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora, Mr Speaker. As a Chinese who immigrated to New Zealand only 13 years ago, I feel extremely honoured standing here before you all to give my maiden speech today. Firstly, I would like to thank the Chinese community for their encouragement and support. Guangda de huaren huaqiao pengyoumen, wo ganxie nimen de yiguan zhichi he houai. Zhe yike ye shuyu nimen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000462\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EI am grateful to my colleagues at the University of Auckland, particularly the staff of the department of political studies. Special thanks go to Professor Barry Gustafson and Professor Raymond Miller, from whom I learnt a great deal about New Zealand politics, and who both encouraged me to step out of theoretical politics and into real politics. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000463\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EI thank the board directors of the National Party for their trust. In particular, I thank our president, Peter Goodfellow. I cannot overstate Peter\u2019s help in the past few months. I also thank my party colleagues for their warm welcome and support. And I thank the Prime Minister for his trust and guidance. Most of all I thank my family: my parents in China, who cannot be here today, my wife Jane, and my daughters, Suzie and Evelyn. I fully understand the sacrifices my family have to make, and it was not an easy decision to leave the ivory tower and jump into the turbulent sea of real politics. Thank you, Jane, Suzie, and Evelyn, for your love and trust. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000464\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EAs the Prime Minister noted in his first speech to the new Parliament, the National Party was the first party in New Zealand to have a Chinese MP. I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge the achievement of the honourable Pansy Wong. My election into Parliament lays down yet another milestone in the history of Chinese immigrants in New Zealand. I am the first National MP who is an immigrant from mainland China. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000465\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EThe Chinese community in New Zealand has experienced rapid growth in the past two to three decades. We are attracted by, among other things, New Zealand\u2019s second-to-none environment, democratic political system, equal economic opportunities, and stable society. As an immigrant who witnessed and experienced the many political upheavals in China, I do not take any of the benefits I am enjoying now for granted. My grandfather was a general of the Chinese Nationalist Party, or Kuomintang, which is today the ruling party in Taiwan. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EWhen the Communist Party came to power in China in 1949, my grandfather lost all his property, was imprisoned, and lived in poverty for the rest of his life. In the first 30 years of the People\u2019s Republic of China the Chinese Government launched one political movement after another, climaxing with the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, beginning in 1966. The revolution left behind millions of political victims, including my parents, who were sent to the countryside to be re-educated by peasants. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EIn 1978, under the rule of Deng Xiaoping, China made the historic decision to reform and open up. Capitalism began to flourish. Deng\u2019s virtue of pragmatism is highlighted by his most famous quotation: \u201CI don\u2019t care if it\u2019s a white cat or a black cat. It\u2019s a good cat as long as it catches mice.\u201D In that same year of 1978, I passed the newly restored higher-education examination and became part of a small group of high school graduates who went on to university. The change in China since 1978 has been awe-inspiring. China today is a different world. But the journey has certainly not all been smooth. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000468\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EIn April 1989 a great opportunity was opened up for me when I received a scholarship from the Johns Hopkins University in America. However, in the weeks following, student demonstrations swept China. The Chinese Government\u2019s policy change afterwards prevented me from leaving to study in the United States. Fortunately for China, after a period of hesitation, the Government decided to continue its reformation. In 1994 I started my postgraduate study in Australia, and in 1999 I completed my PhD and began my work at the University of Auckland. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000469\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EMy experiences reiterate the inescapable influence of politics on our lives, and greatly contrast the deep value placed on political rights and freedom that we enjoy in New Zealand. For this reason, I appreciate the National Party\u2019s commitment to democratic principles and individual freedom and choice. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000470\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EPolitics and economics are two areas difficult to differentiate. Between 1949 and 1978 China was a socialist country with a planned economy. The Chinese people were called upon to march towards a communist utopia, where everyone should contribute to society to the best of his or her ability and consume from society in proportion to his or her need\u2014that is, \u201CFrom each according to his ability, to each according to his need.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000471\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003ESocialist economic policies did not aid China. By the year of my birth in 1962, China had wiped out private ownership in an effort to build a socialist economy. A horrific famine had just passed with the death of millions of people. In those years, everyone was equal but everyone was poor. The most spectacular present that I received for my 10th birthday was two eggs for breakfast. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000472\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EBy 1978 the Chinese economy was on the verge of collapse. It was at that critical moment that the Chinese Government started economic reforms, salvaging the economy just in time. A market economy was introduced. Entrepreneurship was encouraged. The irrational pursuit of income equality was abolished. A popular official slogan at the time was \u201CShui xian fu, shui guang rong\u201D, meaning \u201CIt is glorious to become rich before others\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000473\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EWe are all aware of China\u2019s enormous economic growth since that pivotal year of 1978. China has risen to become the second-largest economy in the world. The Chinese Government has successfully lifted millions of people out of poverty. Reflecting on the way in which China has achieved its positive change and development gives me a firm belief that the policies of the National Party are in the best interests of New Zealand. We give priority to economic growth. And to achieve this growth we emphasise the importance of personal responsibility, competitive enterprise, and reward for achievement. These are all values shared by the Chinese community and many other New Zealanders. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000474\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EThe Chinese were the third racial group to settle in New Zealand, after the M\u0101ori and European. Most of them came as goldminers in the second half of the 19th century. Historian Michael King said: \u201COnce in New Zealand, the Chinese who persisted despite the poll tax and considerable prejudice proved themselves to be law-abiding and hard-working citizens.\u201D We should not undervalue the contributions of the Chinese community to New Zealand. Not only has the Chinese community contributed economically, it has also enriched the lives of all New Zealanders through the celebration of Chinese arts, cuisine, and traditions. Every year about 200,000 people from different ethnic communities come to the Chinese Lantern Festival in Auckland as part of the Chinese New Year celebrations. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000475\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003ETo the Chinese, strong work ethics coupled with good education are the two key elements to success. Surveys show that Chinese immigrants are often well educated, and it is no secret that Chinese children generally do well at school. The New Zealand Herald noted in April last year that \u201CIf education is our future, Chinese minds will be prominent in shaping New Zealand\u2019s destiny.\u201D This again reinforces the Chinese community\u2019s vital role in the future development of our country. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000476\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EThe Chinese community\u2019s value in education echoes that of the National Party. We are committed to offering the best education to all New Zealanders, and we believe education provides the ability for all to move forward. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000477\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EDespite the successes of the Chinese in New Zealand, all new immigrants need time to adapt to a new country. Considering their Eastern cultural background, it may be more challenging for Chinese immigrants to adapt to our mainly Western society. It is in the best interests of all of us to give them more support in this respect. On the other hand, all immigrants should themselves try to integrate. Chinese immigrants are no exception. Members of the Chinese community should not only learn the languages and cultures of mainstream society but also be willing to sacrifice for the country. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000478\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EIt is pleasing to note that the global trend among overseas Chinese is to move away from luoye guigen, \u201Cfallen leaves return to the roots\u201D, but towards luodi shenggen, \u201Cto grow roots where they land\u201D. The mentality of sojournism is no longer dominant. Many Chinese, including my family, gave up their Chinese citizenship and proudly became New Zealand citizens. We are Kiwis, although made in China. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000479\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EThe Chinese immigrants do have a strong desire for recognition and integration, which is why they have been actively involved in philanthropy and politics. They have been generous in their donations to the victims of the Christchurch earthquake. There was also a record number of Chinese candidates in the most recent general election. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000480\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EI feel truly honoured to be a National Party representative of the Chinese community. I hope to see more Chinese in Parliament, as the community is still under-represented. The rise of China has given New Zealand an ideal opportunity. China is now our second-largest trading partner. Our trade with East Asia, especially China, played a crucial role in our effort to deal with the global financial crisis in recent years. In this respect, Chinese residents\u2019 connection with China is a great asset to New Zealand. The connection has generated many economic opportunities, and there is still a great potential. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000481\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003EAs a Chinese immigrant, I will act as a bridge between the Chinese community and our mainstream society. I will also endeavour to contribute to the strengthening of New Zealand\u2019s relations with China. What is more, my background and experiences render me capable of making contributions in many other areas, be it education, foreign affairs, ethnic affairs, or health.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000482\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022656487fe-e0a2-485c-8dc2-fe61b9aec128\u0022\u003ETo conclude, the values held by me and many Chinese New Zealanders are parallel to those of the National Party and other New Zealanders. These include equal citizenship and equal opportunity, individual freedom and choice, personal responsibility, and reward for achievement. As a father of two, I see it as my responsibility to provide a safe and prosperous environment for my children to grow up in. With the National Party, I look forward to a brighter future. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022 data-id=\u0022386466100bee4cb18f7463b5b797df62\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000483\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022386466100bee4cb18f7463b5b797df62\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: My colleagues, can I congratulate all the members who have made maiden speeches to the House in this 50th Parliament. I think we have heard some outstanding maiden speeches, not just today but from all parties, and I congratulate all the new members of this 50th Parliament for the quality of those maiden speeches. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000484\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003EDebate interrupted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000485\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003ESitting suspended from 6.04 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000486\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00220c244c24e80c49c3bb584180ed2790ec\u0022\u003ENgai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000487\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00220c244c24e80c49c3bb584180ed2790ec\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000488\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00226d91b8889ed9415f8596785b19a6bc59\u0022\u003EFirst Readings\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022 data-id=\u00222c8dc07ee0c74573b12d71f1fd48ed6f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000489\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222c8dc07ee0c74573b12d71f1fd48ed6f\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES (Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations: I ask the leave of the House to extend my time to 15 minutes. I actually have cognate bills here with two iwi involved.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000490\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a9be741901b741f69a12312dcf640628\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson)\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the honourable Minister will know that the House is the master of its own destiny. The Minister seeks leave. Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none. The honourable Minister has 15 minutes. Pita, the bell will go with 5 minutes remaining, so that you know.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000491\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222db6ce03050045bcb66e1635c0bba470\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: T\u0113n\u0101 koe. I move, That the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill be now read a first time. At the appropriate time, I intend to move that the bills be referred to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee for consideration. N\u0101 reira ki ng\u0101 iwi, koutou kua hara mai nei ki t\u0113nei Whare Paremata i t\u0113nei p\u014D, nau mai, hara mai r\u0101. Hara mai r\u0101 koutou. Kua roa rawa koutou e kawe i t\u0113nei kaupapa, \u0101, engari i t\u0113nei p\u014D, he t\u012Bmatanga pea o te whakamutunga. N\u0101 reira, hara mai, hara mai r\u0101. Hoki atu ng\u0101 mahara ki a r\u0101tou k\u0101re i konei i t\u0113nei w\u0101. R\u0101tou i t\u012Bmata ai i t\u0113nei h\u012Bkoi, e kawe nei i t\u0113nei kaupapa, kua ngaro atu me ng\u0101 mate o te r\u0101. N\u0101 reira, r\u0101tou ki a r\u0101tou, okioki pai. Engari ko koutou nei, kua tae mai ki te tautoko i t\u0113nei \u0101huatanga, ar\u0101, te kaupapa e whakahuihuitia t\u0101tou, nau mai, whakapiri mai koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000492\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[So to you, the tribes who have arrived here at this Parliament House tonight, welcome, welcome here. Welcome indeed, to you collectively. You have carried this matter for a very long time, but tonight is maybe the beginning of the end. Welcome, welcome here. The thoughts go back to those who are no longer here at this point in time. They started this journey and carried this matter, and have passed away since with the deaths of the day. So, allow them to be there among their own, rest well. But to you who have arrived here to support this situation and the reason why we have assembled here, welcome, draw closer.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000493\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EFirst, I would like to extend a warm welcome to the representatives of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino who have joined us today for this highly significant occasion. This is an important day for Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, where we remember and acknowledge their historical Treaty grievances but also look forward and celebrate with optimism their future and the opportunities that will follow this settlement. The first reading of these two bills today is a step towards the completion of a journey that has taken many years for both iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000494\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003ENgai T\u0101manuhiri is an iwi based in the Gisborne region, and was represented in negotiations by the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Wh\u0101nui Trust. The whakatau\u0101k\u012B \u201CMai i Paritu, ki K\u014Dpututea.\u201D describes the area in which Ngai T\u0101manuhiri hold mana whenua. Ngai T\u0101manuhiri has five principle hap\u016B: Ng\u0101ti Rangiwaho, Ng\u0101ti Rangiwaho Matua, Ng\u0101i T\u0101wehi, Ng\u0101ti Kahutia, and Ng\u0101ti Rangitauwhiwhia. Nolan Raih\u0101nia, t\u014D t\u0101tou kaum\u0101tua i t\u0113nei p\u014D, provided the whakatau\u0101k\u012B for the deed of settlement, and I would now like to quote it, as it signifies the unity and strength of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri as an iwi: \u201CKo te mana o te tangata kei \u014Dna uri.\u201D\u2014t\u0113n\u0101 koe kai raro.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000495\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti M\u0101kino is an iwi from the Bay of Plenty region and was represented in Treaty settlement negotiations by the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Heritage Trust. Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino is also a member of the Te Arawa confederation of tribes. Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino hails from the area between the coast and the lakes Rotoehu, Rotoiti, and Rotom\u0101. It should also be noted that Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino have close whakapapa connections to Waitaha as they descend from Waitaha-\u0101-Hei. Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino historically operated as an independent entity, but, because of their close whakapapa connections, were able to band together with other iwi when confronted by external threats, or for common interests.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000496\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EThe grievances and Treaty settlement negotiations of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. Twenty years ago, in 1992, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri first began their journey. Eric John T\u016Bpai Ruru, T\u016Btekawa Wyllie, and Peter Gordon lodged a claim with the Waitangi Tribunal on behalf of Te Aitanga-a-M\u0101haki, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, and Rongowhakaata, referred to as Wai 283. I wish to acknowledge those who began this journey but are no longer with us. Moe mai r\u0101 e ng\u0101 rangatira, moe mai r\u0101. In the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri settlement, the Crown acknowledges a number of serious Treaty breaches. In 1865 Crown forces laid siege to the defensive p\u0101 at Waerenga-a-hika, where many T\u016Branga M\u0101ori were killed and a number of T\u016Branga M\u0101ori were imprisoned and transported to the Chatham Islands without trial or conviction. In 1868 Ngai T\u0101manuhiri were pressured to cede all their land to the Crown. This cession was made under duress, as the Crown had threatened to remove all its protection unless the entire district was ceded. The Crown eventually returned land to Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, but made arrangements that led to its ownership being held by individuals rather than the tribal collective, making it more susceptible to alienation and fragmentation. These and other breaches have left Ngai T\u0101manuhiri without sufficient land to meet their present and future needs.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000497\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EI want to now highlight the Crown apology contained in the deed of settlement and, subsequently, this Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill. The apology is significant, as it takes a step towards healing the hurt caused by the Treaty breaches. Negotiations between Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and the Crown took place from 2007 through to 2011. I want to acknowledge the hard work of the trustees and the negotiators in getting Ngai T\u0101manuhiri to where we are today. N\u0101 reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. In 2008 Ngai T\u0101manuhiri signed an agreement in principle as part of the T\u016Branga collective. Following the collective separating in 2009, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri entered into negotiations with the Crown for their deed of settlement and initialled that deed in December 2010.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000498\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EIn a dawn ceremony on 5 March 2011 at Muriwai Beach, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and the Crown signed the first of the documents that make up the deed of settlement. The ceremony reflected the significance of Te Kur\u012B a Paoa, also known as Young Nicks Head, to Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. The deed of settlement is a full and final settlement for all the historical Treaty claims of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000499\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti M\u0101kino\u2019s grievances and Treaty settlement negotiations. According to Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, K\u0101wana Te Kirikau is the person who first initiated the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino claim, in 1992. Named claimants include Te Ariki M\u014Drehu, Neville N\u0113pia, Peretini Nuku Tawa, and Awhi Awhimate. In 1995 the claims of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino were presented at the Waitangi Tribunal inquiry into the Eastern Bay of Plenty district. This has been a long journey for Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, and I would like again to acknowledge those who began this journey but are no longer with us here today. N\u0101 reira, r\u0101tou ki a r\u0101tou, moe mai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000500\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EWhen the war broke out in the Waikato region, iwi within the Bay of Plenty felt the tension. The people of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino were split between supporting the Crown, taking a stance of armed neutrality, or supporting the K\u012Bngitanga. Although some of their land was confiscated by the Crown in retaliation for certain murders committed in the Bay of Plenty, Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino played no part in those killings. Through the early 1900s the Crown used a number of pieces of legislation to alienate and acquire virtually all of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino\u2019s land. This settlement with Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino is a significant step in working to put right the losses Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino suffered.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000501\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti M\u0101kino has had a long journey though negotiations with the Crown. Terms of negotiation were reached in 1998. However, with the change of Government, negotiations were suspended. The Waitangi Tribunal found in 2004, and again in 2005, that Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino had suffered prejudice as a result of the Crown\u2019s delay in negotiating with them. In 2008 the Crown reconfirmed the mandate of the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Heritage Trust. In April 2008, together with Waitaha, joint terms of negotiation were entered into, and an agreement in principle was reached in November 2008. Then in December 2008, after a period of intense negotiations, Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino and the Crown initialled a deed of settlement. An overwhelming majority of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino members who voted in the ratification process expressed support for the deed of settlement and the proposed post-settlement governance arrangements. On 2 April 2011 at \u014Ctamar\u0101kau, Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino and the Crown signed a deed of settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000502\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EI turn to the key features of the legislation. I want now to highlight the key features of the deeds of settlement, and the redress terms that will be transferred by these bills. Perhaps the most significant item of redress for Ngai T\u0101manuhiri is the return of Te Kur\u012B a Paoa. Te Kur\u012B a Paoa is a significant landmark for the people of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. Te Kur\u012B a Paoa will be vested as a national historic reserve under the Reserves Act 1977. I am confident this vesting will ensure that public interest is provided for, while recognising the special relationship Ngai T\u0101manuhiri has with Te Kur\u012B a Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EThe settlement provides for the establishment of a central leadership group, and a local leadership body to provide a forum for Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, along with other T\u016Branga-nui-a-Kiwa iwi, to engage with central government departments and ensure that their implementing of the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi is a coordinated effort with the T\u016Branga-nui-a-Kiwi region. The local leadership body will work with the local council to contribute to the sustainable management of the resources within that region. These redress items provide Ngai T\u0101manuhiri with a valuable opportunity to engage with central and local government on a range of issues.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003ENgai T\u0101manuhiri will receive a quantum total of $11.07 million, which takes into account the nature of the historical Treaty breaches and the size of the iwi. This is to be provided in three parts: an on-account payment, which was made after the signing of the deed of settlement; transfer of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri interest in Wharerata Forest; and a financial sum. Ngai T\u0101manuhiri will also receive a number of commercial properties that may assist Ngai T\u0101manuhiri develop its commercial footing, and contribute to the long-term financial success of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000505\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EI come now to the key redress items contained in Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino\u2019s settlement. The area extending from Lake Rotoehu out to sea is extremely significant to Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, as those lands provided them with their food and their medicine. In recognition of these associations, the settlement includes statutory acknowledgments over parts of Lake Rotom\u0101 and Lake Rotoiti. Part of Lake Rotom\u0101 Scenic Reserve will be subject to a whenua r\u0101hui, which will allow for the protection of the reserve. A number of culturally significant properties are also being returned to Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. These include the R\u0101kau \u014D Kauwae Hapa site, Ng\u0101 P\u014Dr\u014Dtai-o-Waitaha-a-Hei, Lake Rotoehu Scenic Reserve, and the balance of the Matawh\u0101ura site. Another significant item of redress included in the settlement is a marae development fund. This fund will assist Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino to restore and revitalise six marae in the rohe. Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino will receive a financial quantum of $6.7 million, made up of a financial payment and licensed land being transferred to the iwi. It takes into account the extent of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino\u2019s losses and the size of the iwi. Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino will also receive a financial settlement of $3.1 million.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000506\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EI am confident that both bills will settle the historical Treaty claims of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino in a fair and final manner. Although it is not possible to provide full restitution to Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino for their losses, the settlement redress provided for in these bills seeks to recognise the seriousness of their grievances, and to build a positive foundation for future generations. I consider that the bills should therefore proceed without delay to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I commend these bills to the House. T\u0113n\u0101 koe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022 data-id=\u00220cb9780fea11430a872131b8dc83a11b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000507\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220cb9780fea11430a872131b8dc83a11b\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti): \u003C/span\u003ET\u0113n\u0101 koe. Ka nui aku mihi ki a koe, te Kaiwhakahaere o te Whare. E mihi kau ana ki t\u014D t\u0101tau Minita M\u0101ori me r\u0101tau ng\u0101 kanohi M\u0101ori i t\u0113r\u0101 taha. N\u0101 te pai e kite atu w\u0113tahi o ng\u0101 uri o ng\u0101 iwi e tae ake ki konei. N\u014D reira, ki a koutou ng\u0101 mea pakeke o M\u0101kino e mihi kau ana. Nau mai, hara mai. Hara mai ki te w\u0101hi nei taupatupatu k\u014Drero m\u014D ng\u0101 \u0101hua katoa i roto i a koutou me \u0113r\u0101 hoki o konei, te kaha rawa te tae mai. E te P\u0101p\u0101 e Noel, i a koe hoki e Temple koutou katoa ng\u0101 mea pakeke, e mihi kau ana. Nau mai r\u0101, hara mai, hara mai ki te w\u0101hi nei. E pai ana ki te kite atu i te kaha rawa i roto i a koutou ahakoa te roaroa o te tae ake ki konei, kua tae mai koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000508\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003ETe nui o ng\u0101 tangihanga i te k\u0101inga, ko Uncle Noel t\u0113r\u0101 ka hinga ki raro. Mihi atu ki a r\u0101tau o hoa o te Rua Tekau M\u0101 Waru, ki a Uncle Turi r\u0101ua ko te P\u0101p\u0101, matua H\u0113nare. Ko koe t\u0113neki nei e t\u016B kaha ana, e mau poutokomanawa m\u014D t\u0101tau katoa, n\u014D reira, mihi kau ana. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau. E rongo atu au e tautokotia atu ng\u0101 k\u014Drero o t\u014D t\u0101tau Minita a Pita. Ka mihi atu hoki ki te tangata r\u0101 a Christopher Finlayson m\u014D t\u014Dna kaha, t\u0113r\u0101 Minita. He roaroa atu te w\u0101 kia tae ake ai ki konei, kia oti pai ai t\u0113nei, n\u0101 te mea, i t\u012Bmata atu i roto i a r\u0101tau te m\u014Dhiotanga, \u0101, n\u0101 te mamae ki w\u0113nei ker\u0113me, ka rere atu te nuinga o ng\u0101 mea pakeke. K\u0101re e ora r\u0101tau hei kite te otinga. N\u014D reira, t\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D te mea i roto i a t\u0101tau, e tautokotia atu t\u014D t\u0101tau R\u014Dp\u016B Reipa, \u0101, te oti pai ai t\u0113nei, n\u0101 te mea, e p\u012Brangi atu t\u0101tau kia tere te haere. K\u0101re au m\u014D te noho nohinohi e kore e tae atu i te otinga o t\u0113nei tau. N\u014D reira, e mihi atu ki a r\u0101tau, ki a t\u0101tau katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000509\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E[Thank you. I appreciate you greatly, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson, and acknowledge our Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs, and M\u0101ori members on that side of the House. It is so nice to see relatives of the tribes here. So to you, the elderly ones of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, I acknowledge you. Welcome, welcome, and welcome to this place. Welcome to this place where all manner of things among you that took a lot of effort to get here are debated, including the ones from here. Welcome to you, Uncle Noel, Uncle Temple, and all of you, the elderly ones, I salute you. Welcome, welcome, and welcome to this place. It is pleasing to see the efforts made by you, and despite the length of time involved to get here you have made it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000510\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThere have been many funerals at home. Uncle Noel\u2019s was one. I pay a tribute to your friends of the 28th M\u0101ori Battalion, to Uncle Turi and Uncle H\u0113nare. You have stood strongly as the pillar for all of us, so I acknowledge you. Congratulations to us. I note that the statements of our Minister the Hon Dr Pita Sharples were endorsed. I endorse the Hon Christopher Finlayson\u2019s efforts, as well. It has taken a long time for the legislation to arrive here and be completed. Initially the understanding came from within the tribes, but because of the hurt created through these claims, many of the elder ones passed away and will not see it completed. So the feeling among us, our Labour Party, is that we endorse the settlement of this legislation and want it done as swiftly as possible. I do not want to sit around and not have this matter settled this year. So I acknowledge them, and all of us.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000511\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI want to reiterate and support what Minister Sharples has said and acknowledge the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations. The Labour Party will certainly be supporting these bills\u2014the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill\u2014moving swiftly, I hope, through to a positive end. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000512\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EIn relation to the two bills we are talking about now the Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs has covered most of the important points. I do want to mention Te Ariki M\u014Drehu, Te H\u012Brata Sykes, Awhimate Awhimate, and many others\u2014and when you name people, you leave people out\u2014for the effort that has been put in. They started negotiations with Waitaha at a single table, then moved on to progress their own interests as negotiators in their own right. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000513\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI suppose one of the big issues is the balance of the Rotoehu Forest and accumulated rentals that have been returned to them, and it needs to be recognised alongside all of the other matters that are in there that were named by the Minister. The scenic reserves redress is of significant importance to Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. It is innovative. It is redress that was negotiated to give Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino certain decision-making rights in consultation with the Department of Conservation over scenic reserves in the area. I am not too sure who the Minister of Conservation is any more, but I am certain Minister Sharples and Minister Finlayson shudder in fear now that the M\u0101ori advisers that they had there have lost their jobs. So I hope that it is reconsidered in these settlements, because they will need a whole lot of assistance with that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000514\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThe bill sets out the cultural redress to Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, including the Crown\u2019s acknowledgment of the cultural significance of certain statutory areas for them and the issuing of protocols by appropriate responsible Ministers, and that is certainly something to be supported. They have been through a very, very hard time. The Moutoroi P\u0101 site is vested in fee simple in the trustees, and that comes out in Subpart 8 in Part 2. The commercial redress is something that is there, and I hope between now and the end that some of that may be stretched with the school at \u014Ctamar\u0101kau, which is to be transferred to the trustees. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000515\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThe bill also makes provision in relation to deferred selection properties and licensed and unlicensed Crown forest lands. It is well known that Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino have had their tensions, and they certainly would like to be recognised in the sense of any further deals relevant to forestry. I would plead with the Minister to ensure that that effort is strong in relation to supporting them in finalising their settlement, and I want to wish them well. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000516\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003ENgai T\u0101manuhiri is from the great land of Tai R\u0101whiti, and there are people who have emblazoned this start in the Tai R\u0101whiti region, in the sense of moving to settlement, which is certainly a first for the region, and they need to be commended for that. Along with a whole lot of other people, I do want to mention Dawn P\u014Dmana, Mel Tarsau, Hope T\u016Bpara, young Reuben Wiki, who passed on, Heather Smith, Warren P\u014Dhat\u016B, and a range of others, and the pakeke like Uncle Noel and Uncle Temple and those ones.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000517\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThe agreement in principle was signed a long time ago by us, and that is why we tend to get a bit agitated at the length of time, Minister, and hopefully we can speed these up. The transfer of Te Kur\u012B a Paoa historic reserve / Young Nicks Head is very significant to them, and I was privileged to be there with them when we flew up in the helicopter. I was going to say I walked, but I know that some of them up the top there know that I went up in the helicopter. But it was a great day, and it signalled the start of trying to mend those issues that have been there for a long period of time. The transfer of part of Wharerata Forest and accumulated rentals is important, and hopefully the interest on those rentals is paid and not forgotten. That is something that would really assist those people. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000518\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThe bill provides for the establishment of a central leadership group, and I think this is the very innovative thing about Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. I think it is a lesson for going forward, in the sense of how other iwi could consider matters. I know that Ng\u0101ti Parawera Ruanui has done the same thing. The settlement prepares for the establishment of a central leadership group, with representatives from Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and the other iwi to engage with central government. I hope that those departments, and Te Puni K\u014Dkiri and those ones, are not washed away in this big speech next week, and that they are around to aid and abet this great part of the settlement, Minister. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000519\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThe other interesting fact is that the bill also provides for the establishment of a local leadership group with members appointed by Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and other T\u016Branga group iwi and the Gisborne District Council to enhance T\u016Branga iwi engagement with the local council. That is very important, and I hope Ngai T\u0101manuhiri puts at the top of the list the exorbitant rates on M\u0101ori land, and that that is there. It is good, and it would be encouraging to feel that\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000520\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b5a8f3f5e76b44c98471357bd3d5fb49\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: What did you do? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000521\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002228fbcaa0deeb43309f76cf62febf072e\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: Tau Henare\u2019s relations are there; he would agree with me on that. But it would be great. What we did do is we made sure that we started it, and we are here encouraging the Government to finalise it. But I think those two aspects are very, very important. It is how we build them, Minister, and make them real that is important. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000522\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EOf course, the paepae that has been organised on the west coast in Taranaki has not been working very well. Those ministries have not played ball, and this is high-level stuff. You know, there is a lot of need for those Government agencies to ensure that Ngai T\u0101manuhiri get what is certainly theirs. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000523\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EWe support this bill, and we certainly look forward to working in harmony and making sure that we get there. Ngai T\u0101manuhiri certainly have been a trailblazer in the Tai R\u0101whiti, in getting off the ranks\u2014the first cab off the rank\u2014to try to get things done, and they need to be commended for it. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou kua rewa taku t\u016B, e mihi kau ana ki a koutou katoa, me t\u0101tou an\u014D hoki nei ng\u0101 kanohi M\u0101ori, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000524\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E[So greetings to you, collectively. My time has expired, and I do acknowledge you all, as well, the M\u0101ori members, greetings.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u002204b17c159c754a17be6b22bcc5575cc9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000525\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002204b17c159c754a17be6b22bcc5575cc9\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E Can I begin by thanking all members of the House for their help in progressing this legislation. I particularly acknowledge the advice and the guidance that I received from the previous speaker, Mr Horomia, and also Mr Jones. It is always great to be out on the road, signing these deeds of settlement with Mr Horomia. They are occasions when you put aside party politics, because we are all interested in doing the right thing for iwi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000526\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI also want to welcome those members of the iwi who have made their journey to Parliament for this very happy occasion. Dr Sharples has gone through the details of the bills, the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill and the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill, in some considerable detail, and I do not intend to repeat that material in my speech. But I do want to say that engagement in settlement negotiations, in my experience of a little over 3 years, requires a tremendous amount of commitment and courage for those involved. It involves difficult trade-offs, both professionally and personally. Just the other day I heard of one negotiator for an iwi who had spent his redundancy working for his iwi to get to the stage where a deed of settlement could be signed. So with that in mind, I acknowledge the negotiation teams of both iwi, those who have made these Treaty settlements possible because of their dedication, their hard work, and the leadership of their governance entities. I pay tribute to the leadership, the pragmatism, and the hard work of both negotiation teams. It is through the diligent labour of these people that we are able to have this occasion here tonight.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000527\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIt would be inappropriate to single out individuals, but I have to single out that wonderful New Zealander Nolan Raih\u0101nia of the C Company of M\u0101ori Battalion. As he says, he is ubiquitous. He will be sitting next to Api Mahuika in about an hour for the second reading of the Ngati Porou Claims Settlement Bill. It is great to see you in the Chamber tonight, and it is great to place on record your tremendous contribution, both to your iwi and to New Zealand throughout the course of your lifetime.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000528\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIn reaching this milestone it is important to acknowledge that full compensation to Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino for their losses is simply not possible. Through entering deeds of settlement with the Crown, both iwi have offered to forgo full compensation in order to contribute to the future development of New Zealand, and I want to thank them for that act of generosity. The introduction of these bills will begin the last stage of the settlement process for both iwi. Both iwi have, as Mr Horomia said, waited a very, very long time for this day, and they can be very proud of what they have achieved. Through this legislation a platform has been set for a new relationship between Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, and the Crown\u2014a relationship that I certainly hope will be based for the future on mutual trust, cooperation, and a respect for the Treaty.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000529\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThis contribution is necessarily short; I have offered to give Dr Sharples the chance to set out the full detail. He is a valued colleague and friend, and I am working closely with him now in the M\u0101ori Affairs portfolio, and I will have my longer speech at the third reading stage. But I do emphasise that this is a bipartisan exercise. I do emphasise that it is something all New Zealanders should be very proud of. The Crown cannot brush under the carpet longstanding and legitimate grievances of the iwi of this country, and it is going to seek to respond appropriately to well-founded claims in a manner designed to achieve a better New Zealand for all of us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000530\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ESo thank you once again to those who have contributed so much to this great day. Thank you for coming to Wellington. I very much look forward to, as Mr Horomia said, the harmonious conduct of these bills in the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. With the great Tau Henare as chair, it could only be harmonious, and I am sure that in double-quick time the bills will be back to the House for the remaining stages.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022 data-id=\u0022528640d3fdc4418c904d8c29531b35d2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000531\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022528640d3fdc4418c904d8c29531b35d2\u0022\u003ELOUISA WALL (Labour\u2014Manurewa):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr. Assistant Speaker Robertson. E ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 reo, rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, o Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000532\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson. To the authorities, voices, and many leaders, greetings to you, greetings to you, and greetings to you all. Greetings to you, the families of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000533\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EThis is my privilege. This is the first opportunity I have had to address the House as the member of Parliament for Manurewa, so I want to take the opportunity to thank the people of Manurewa for electing me as their representative. In saying that, I want to acknowledge how honoured I am to sit on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I want to congratulate you, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson, on your new role as president of Parliamentarians for Global Action, as well as on your Assistant Speaker role. I want to acknowledge the Hon Chris Finlayson as the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, and the Hon Pita Sharples as the Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs. I want to acknowledge the work of Tau Henare as the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, with the Hon Parekura Horomia as his deputy. I want to acknowledge the Hon Nanaia Mahuta as a previous member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, and I also want to acknowledge my colleague Rino Tirikatene and congratulate him on his election as the MP for Te Tai Tonga. I want to acknowledge Brendan Horan here in the House as a New Zealand First member and a member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, and also Louise Upston, who is a member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000534\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EPrevious speakers have outlined the deed of settlement that Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino are to receive, and actually what I want to say is that the process that we are engaged in now is actually a rubber-stamp of the process that the iwi have been through. It is not for us to add anything to what they have negotiated with the Crown, but what I do want to say is that regardless of the differing views on the settlement process, which we must acknowledge is fundamentally about the property rights of M\u0101ori, it is these Treaty settlement bills coming before this House that formalise the process and offer redress for breaches of the Treaty of Waitangi, which is the founding document of our country and which has been agreed to by iwi and hap\u016B after a process of historical reconciliation and engagement with the Crown. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000535\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EThe Treaty settlement process in itself, and this resulting legislation that we are debating tonight in the first reading, is one of the few means by which M\u0101ori are given legal recognition, as New Zealand\u2019s indigenous people, as the first sovereign and the party to a contract, Te Tiriti o Waitangi, which gave rise to the establishment of the expression of our democracy in this House that we are in tonight. This Treaty settlement context is also the process that confirms the unique status that M\u0101ori have in Aotearoa New Zealand as New Zealand\u2019s first, or original, peoples. And I want to make this point: the Treaty settlement process highlights that although immigrant groups have heritage identities to other countries, other cultures, and other languages, iwi and hap\u016B have their identities embedded in their awa, their moana, their maunga, their tikanga, their reo, and their kawa, which can come only from here in Aotearoa New Zealand. And it is this process that recognises the established right of M\u0101ori as New Zealand\u2019s indigenous peoples, which was strengthened by the Treaty of Waitangi. But what I want to say is that we have a status regardless of the Treaty. That status needs to be reinforced in the legislation, and that is something that I am committed to. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000536\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003ESo, for me, these bills are part of the path of endorsing the status of M\u0101ori as indigenous people, and of endorsing our rights that come from that status. So endorsing M\u0101ori rights to property is one of the important steps in recognising and celebrating M\u0101ori status as New Zealand\u2019s indigenous peoples, and these Treaty settlements for Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino\u2014and others who will be in the Whare later tonight\u2014are essentially about recognition of them in their own right, and about compensating them for the property rights that they either lost or had taken from them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000537\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EI want to draw the distinction between land, which actually has some legal parameters to it, and other property that has been subsequently commodified. And I particularly want to talk about water. There is no legal status for ownership of water, and that is why, for me, the proposed removal of section 9 of the State-Owned Enterprises Act across any portion of our State asset where M\u0101ori interests are yet to be determined, in itself, will be a new Treaty breach. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000538\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EMy contribution tonight is really about acknowledging the road that iwi have gone down to get here, and for me it has been like climbing Mount Everest. The tenacity and the fights of our wh\u0101nau to get to a deed of settlement have been long fought, and I think in the future our role is to ensure that those generations that come after us do not have to climb high mountains. The path should be pretty straight, and it should be easy for the next generation of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino and Ngai T\u0101manuhiri to be able to exercise their right as tangata whenua\u2014as mana whenua of this country. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000539\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EI want to thank Parekura for the opportunity to speak. I have not been involved in Treaty settlements yet. I am going to be on the road with Tau in the future\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fd7613c0d877496393ebde305228e35f\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson)\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member must use the member\u2019s full name.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000541\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b50723f7ae094f609a28d3da7bc29d85\u0022\u003ELOUISA WALL\u003C/span\u003E: The Hon Tau Henare\u2014but I want to acknowledge the journey that the iwi have made to be here tonight. I want to honour this deed of settlement that they have negotiated with the Crown. I am happy to be part of a process in the future that will ensure that they can sign this deed of settlement and get on with exercising their right of rangatiratanga over their lands. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022 data-id=\u0022e7483a5b0f934ae693f49eeb4bd1a5fb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000542\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e7483a5b0f934ae693f49eeb4bd1a5fb\u0022\u003EDAVID CLENDON (Green): \u003C/span\u003ET\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr. Assistant Speaker Robertson. Kei te mihi nui ki a koutou. Kei te mihi nui ki ng\u0101 rangatira, ng\u0101 kuia o Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. Haere mai ki t\u0113nei Whare. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000543\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson. I extend a huge greeting to all, as well as leaders and the elderly womenfolk of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino and Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. Welcome to this House.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003EBefore speaking on the substance of these bills, the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill, I would like to acknowledge the process that we are using tonight. We are hearing these bills in cognate, which is not rare but nor is it a common occurrence. I think it is important to acknowledge that this is a practical measure, agreed to by all parties in the House. The purpose of reading these bills together is to advance their progress through the House as swiftly as can be done. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000545\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003EIt is important that we do this quickly. The bills are responding to claims that are some two decades old and, of course, refer to events of a century and a half or more ago. And I think it is important to note that hearing these bills in one reading in no way diminishes the importance of each as a stand-alone bill; to the contrary, it is a reflection of the importance that this House puts on getting these matters resolved to the satisfaction of those who are most directly affected by them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000546\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003EWe, the Green Party, will be supporting these bills through the House, as is our wont with settlement bills. We do so, as ever, while acknowledging also the imperfections of these bills. They can never be all that we would wish them to be, nor inevitably can they\u2014and they do not\u2014compensate in total for all that has been lost over many generations. They cannot restore the material wealth, the land, and the well-being that were lost over many generations, and they certainly cannot compensate in a full and complete way for the personal suffering and loss that have been the hallmark of so many M\u0101ori people since the signing of the Treaty, in fact. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000547\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003EI think that reflects on a genuine generosity of spirit of M\u0101ori\u2014and specifically of these iwi and hap\u016B represented here tonight\u2014that they are willing to accept less than could fairly be claimed in order to move on, to re-establish a more positive relationship between the Crown and M\u0101ori, and, critically, to provide an economic base so that iwi and hap\u016B can dictate their own future and make their own way in the world as they did prior to these unfortunate events, which took away from them, in many cases, the ability to make their own way economically, socially, culturally, and in every other way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000548\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003E I would like particularly to reflect on the clauses in the two bills that are the Crown\u2019s acknowledgments and the Crown\u2019s apologies to the affected iwi and hap\u016B: clause 6 in the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill and clauses 7 and 8 of the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill. I think often that casual observers of these processes perhaps underestimate the value of the Crown\u2019s apologies and acknowledgments of wrongdoing over many years. That is not to underestimate the more practical tangible compensation that is offered, but it is important that people recognise that having the mana restored as it ought to be, the Crown recognising its own shortcomings and wrongdoing, does resonate as an incredibly significant and important part of these bills. It reflects on and give us a place to begin rebuilding, as I said, the 172-year-old relationship. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000549\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003EThose who denigrate or those who are simply ignorant of some of the history of this country and the history that underlies these settlement bills would do well, I think, to inform themselves. One of the inherent values of these bills is that they give us some extraordinary reference points. They record the history of these events in a way that enables people to read and to better understand why we are moving through these. Having celebrated Waitangi Day just a week or two ago, inevitably that time of year brings out those who would suggest that M\u0101ori should get over it, or those who in a more benign way even might suggest that we leave the past in the past. I think they need to read that history, and recognise that it is in some cases only two or three generations ago\u2014and, in fact, even existing generations continue to suffer from wrongdoings\u2014and it is an important part of our history. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000550\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003ESo I do think, as I say, that the parts of these bills are worth reading and recording, and I would like to quote briefly from one or two of them. For example, in clause 6 of the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill the Crown acknowledges \u201Cthat the people of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino have long sought redress for their grievances, and that the Crown\u2019s withdrawal from earlier negotiations \u2026 has had a detrimental effect on Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino.\u201D There is acknowledgment that Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino suffered loss of life at the hands of Crown forces, and that \u201Cconfiscation of land in the eastern Bay of Plenty \u2026 affected all Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, even those who had not been in conflict with the Crown;\u201D at this time. It refers to its effects as \u201Cunjust, indiscriminate, and a breach of the Treaty of Waitangi and its principles.\u201D in the confiscation of that land. It is acknowledged that \u201CNg\u0101ti M\u0101kino\u2019s physical, cultural, and spiritual wellbeing was compromised by the loss of their land and that this suffering and hardship has continued to the present day;\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000551\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003EThese are strong words. This is a very powerful and open acknowledgment of wrong that was done, and it is appropriate that these words are written and spoken. I do, as I say, encourage people to familiarise themselves not only with these bills but with the increasing number of bills, and indeed Acts, where the Crown\u2019s position, the Crown\u2019s liability, and its admission of liability are finally being recorded. Similarly, in the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill the Crown\u2019s apology refers to the Crown\u2019s \u201Cmany failures to respect Ngai T\u0101manuhiri rangatiratanga and to protect Ngai T\u0101manuhiri from being left virtually landless and economically marginalised.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000552\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003EMany M\u0101ori, and those who understand better, are constantly irritated and offended by claims that M\u0101ori somehow are unable to see to their own economic and social well-being. Clearly much of the disadvantage suffered by M\u0101ori in the present day is a direct result, a direct outcome, of the marginalisation, of the taking away of the economic base that M\u0101ori depended on and indeed did very well on. We know the history even of the 1860s, when the New Zealand economy was a M\u0101ori economy, and a very successful economy at that. It is the events that are recorded in these bills that took away that base, and it is a pleasure to be part of the process\u2014albeit a very, very minor part\u2014of restoration of that economic base, as well as the mana that is owed. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000553\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e959f20f-3de7-4f54-8577-8ea78d72c3dd\u0022\u003EThere is much that can be said, and will indeed be said at later readings, about this. I would simply finally like to pass on the greetings and good wishes, in particular to Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, of my colleague and fellow MP Catherine Delahunty, who was engaged quite closely\u2014at the front line, one might say\u2014in the fights over a number of years to restore Te Kur\u012B o Paoa to its rightful owner, to restore access and the mana of that significant place, significant both to M\u0101ori and to P\u0101keh\u0101: Young Nicks Head, Te Kur\u012B o Paoa. She sends her regards, and her direct engagement will be referred to in a later speech. So finally, as I began, I commend these bills. We will offer our support for them and look forward to their swift resolution. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022 data-id=\u00222ca5eb0d34784920ac38e0c5b4fe5c00\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000554\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222ca5eb0d34784920ac38e0c5b4fe5c00\u0022\u003ETE URUROA FLAVELL (M\u0101ori Party\u2014Waiariki):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson, kia ora t\u0101tau e te Whare. Hai w\u0101w\u0101hi i te \u0101huatanga o taku k\u014Drero, me mihi r\u0101 ki a koutou kei runga ake nei. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou i haramai i tawhiti. Ko \u0113tahi o koutou i tae mai i te ata nei ki te hui i karangahia mai ai e te H\u014Dnore H\u0113kia Parata m\u014D te take, ko te m\u0101tauranga. Hoi an\u014D i t\u0113nei p\u014D he take an\u014D r\u0101. N\u014D reira ko t\u0101ku noa ake he whaiwhai haere i ng\u0101 mihi a te Minita m\u014D ng\u0101 take M\u0101ori ki t\u0113n\u0101, ki t\u0113n\u0101 o koutou. Kaua ko Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino i t\u014Dna kotahi, kaua ko Ngai T\u0101manuhiri i t\u014Dna kotahi engari me k\u012B, koutou kua haramai i te p\u014D nei ki te whakarongo ki ng\u0101 k\u014Drero, \u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora t\u0101tau katoa. Haramai me ng\u0101 mate o te w\u0101, e k\u014Drerohia ake nei. T\u016Bmatauenga, haramai, e koro. Haramai ki roto i ng\u0101 pakitara o te Whare nei, ar\u0101 an\u014D ng\u0101 k\u014Drero. Ar\u0101 an\u014D ng\u0101 k\u014Drero m\u014D ng\u0101 pakanga. N\u014D reira, ko koe t\u0113nei kua tat\u016B mai. Haere mai, haere mai, huri noa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora t\u0101tau katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000555\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EE kore au e whakatuarua i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero a te Minita. Kua puta k\u0113 i a ia ng\u0101 k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki ng\u0101 take e p\u0101 ana ki a koutou o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri ka mutu ki a koutou o Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. He mataku n\u014Dku kei k\u012B mai w\u0113tahi, \u0113, ka whakapau te M\u0101ori nei i te nuinga o tana k\u014Drero ki runga i a ia ki a Te Arawa, ki a Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. Engari, t\u0113r\u0101 t\u0113r\u0101 k\u014Drero. Ko t\u0101ku noa ake he k\u014Drero wh\u0101nui, he k\u014Drero wh\u0101nui i te mea, ar\u0101 kua rongo koutou i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero kua puta i te p\u014D nei. E kore au e k\u014Drero whakapapa. K\u0101re i te tika kia k\u014Drero a Te Arawa m\u014D ng\u0101 whakapapa o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. Waiho t\u0113r\u0101 ki a koutou. Ko te taha ki a au ki a Te Arawa, kei konei taku p\u0101p\u0101 a Te Ariki, m\u0101na t\u0113r\u0101 e k\u014Drero. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000556\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EEngari ko t\u0101ku k\u0113 ki a t\u0101tau i te p\u014D nei, he k\u014Drero wh\u0101nui m\u014D t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 take. Ar\u0101 an\u014D ng\u0101, me k\u012B, ng\u0101 \u014Dritenga o ng\u0101 momo pire p\u0113nei i \u0113nei n\u0101. Tuatahi, i roto i ng\u0101 pire nei, ka tuku whakap\u0101h\u0101 te Karauna. Ka pai, ka pai. Me p\u0113r\u0101 ka tika, m\u014D ng\u0101 tini h\u0113, whakap\u014Dreareatanga, t\u016Bkinotanga ki t\u0113n\u0101 iwi, ki t\u0113n\u0101 iwi, ki t\u0113n\u0101 hap\u016B, ki t\u0113n\u0101 hap\u016B i ng\u0101 tau e hia k\u0113 nei kua hipa. Me tuku whakap\u0101h\u0101 ka tika. Tuarua, he aha te take o ng\u0101 raruraru, o ng\u0101 ker\u0113me e korerohia ake nei? Ko te whenua te take. Ko te whenua te take, i murua te whenua, n\u0101 te raupatu t\u0113r\u0101 momo \u0101huatanga n\u0101 te ture, taihoa ake nei ka hoki mai ki t\u0113r\u0101. Ko te take tuatoru ki a au, ko te kore m\u014Dhio o te nuinga o te motu ki ng\u0101 k\u014Drero, ki ng\u0101 h\u012Btori kei roto i ng\u0101 pire e huna ana. K\u0101ore an\u014D te nuinga o ng\u0101 k\u014Drero o t\u0113n\u0101 iwi, o t\u0113n\u0101 iwi, kia puta ki te motu. H\u0101, ka t\u016B mai te ringa o te M\u0101ori ki te k\u012B atu, anei t\u0101ku, i raro i te \u0101huatanga o te Tiriti o Waitangi, t\u0113 aro mai a w\u0113tahi. N\u0101 te aha? N\u0101 te kore m\u014Dhio. N\u014D reira, m\u0113n\u0101 he painga o roto i \u0113nei momo pire, koir\u0101 ki a au te painga. He tuku i te m\u0101tauranga, ng\u0101 k\u014Drero, i p\u0101 atu ki a Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, ki a Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, ki ng\u0101 iwi katoa kua heri mai ai i \u014D r\u0101tau take ki mua i te aro o te Whare P\u0101remata. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000557\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti, me hoki r\u0101 an\u014D ki te t\u012Bmatanga mai o ng\u0101 k\u014Drero. E ai ki t\u0101ku e kite nei, me t\u012Bmata ki a koutou Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, m\u014D te w\u0101 poto. E ai ki t\u0101ku e kite nei, i mua o te tau 1865, i a Ngai T\u0101manuhiri te mana i runga i te whenua i a ia i t\u0113r\u0101 w\u0101. N\u0101, e ai ki t\u0101ku e kite nei, i \u0101hua noho taiapa koutou ki ng\u0101 pakanga i Te Tai R\u0101whiti i t\u0113r\u0101 tau. K\u0101re koutou i toro atu te ringa, heri atu te patu r\u0101nei, te taiaha r\u0101nei, ki \u0113tahi atu, k\u0101o. E noho nei koutou ki \u014D koutou whenua. N\u0101 wai r\u0101, n\u0101 wai r\u0101, \u0101, ka eke ng\u0101 h\u014Dia ki Te Waerenga-a-Hika. E ai ki t\u0101ku i rongo nei, i t\u016Bkinohia ng\u0101 w\u0101hine, tae atu ki ng\u0101 tamariki. He aha te putanga mai, he kore kai, he kore whenua. N\u0101, kei konei tonu ka kite atu i te \u0101huatanga o ng\u0101 \u014Dritenga o ng\u0101 ker\u0113me kua tae mai ki roto i te Whare nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000558\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EMe k\u014Drero an\u014D te \u0101huatanga o te tono a w\u0113tahi o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri ki t\u0101w\u0101hi ki Wharekauri, m\u014D ng\u0101 rua tau. Ki t\u014Dku m\u014Dhio, k\u0101re te noho ki reira i pai, he uaua rawa atu. I heria ki reira m\u014D te aha? M\u014D te kore take noa iho. M\u014D te kore take noa iho. N\u014D reira, ko wai ka h\u0113 i te \u0101huatanga o te k\u014Drero a te Karauna, me whakap\u0101h\u0101 ia ka tika. Ka mutu, \u0101, ko te ekenga o te h\u014Dia ki runga i ng\u0101 whenua. I p\u0113r\u0101tia i Taranaki, i p\u0113r\u0101tia i roto o Tauranga Moana, i p\u0113r\u0101tia i w\u0101hi k\u0113. \u0100, ko taua \u0101hua an\u014D r\u0101 i runga i a koutou e Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. Ka mutu, ko te whakakorenga o te p\u0101nga o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri ki t\u014Dna whenua tupu. Ko taua \u0101hua an\u014D r\u0101, huri noa te motu. He wh\u0101nako whenua, he t\u0101hae whenua, he muru whenua, \u0113r\u0101 \u0101huatanga katoa. Ka p\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D hoki ki a koutou kai aku rangatira. He \u0101hua whakawehewehe i te whenua, t\u0113tahi w\u0101hanga ki t\u0113n\u0101, t\u0113tahi w\u0101hanga ki t\u0113n\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000559\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EEngari, ki t\u0101ku titiro o te Ao M\u0101ori, me whakakotahi nei te whenua m\u014D te painga o te katoa. Kia kaua e whakawehewehe i te whenua. N\u0101 te aha? K\u0101re he paku painga. Ka p\u0113r\u0101 tonu te noho o te tangata. I p\u0113r\u0101 rawa te K\u014Dti Whenua M\u0101ori i ng\u0101 tau kua hipa. I p\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D hoki i w\u0101hi k\u0113 o te motu. N\u0101, ko te ture, ko te Public Works Act t\u0113tahi. K\u0101tahi te pire weriweri rawa atu ko t\u0113r\u0101. Ko t\u0101na mahi, \u0101, taua \u0101hua an\u014D ko te wh\u0101nako i te whenua. N\u0101, ki t\u0101ku i p\u0101nui nei i roto i te \u0101huatanga ki a koutou Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, \u0101, i puta te k\u014Drero m\u014D te Manut\u016Bk\u0113 consolidation scheme. \u0112hara i te mea kei te tino m\u014Dhio au ki te \u0101huatanga o t\u0113r\u0101 take engari, ki t\u0101ku e m\u014Dhio nei mai i te tau 1958, i tuku, i whakaaetia e te Karauna kia tuku i \u0113tahi whenua k\u0113 o iwi k\u0113 ki a koutou me k\u012B, m\u014D te \u0101huatanga o t\u0101na wh\u0101nako i te whenua i te tuatahi. I p\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D hoki ki w\u0101hi k\u0113. N\u0101, i te putanga o te para, o te hamuti, ki tua o te moana o T\u016Branga, hei whakaparuparu, hei t\u016Bkino i te takutai, p\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D hoki ki \u0113tahi atu w\u0101hi. Ko taua \u0101hua an\u014D. Ka mutu, i a Ngai T\u0101manuhiri \u0113tahi w\u0101hi tapu, \u0101, he aha te mahi a te k\u0101wanatanga? He wh\u0101nako i ng\u0101 w\u0101hi tapu nei. N\u014D reira, e, kua eke, kua eke ki t\u0113nei w\u0101 o te hiahia ki te whakatau i ng\u0101 ker\u0113me. N\u014D reira haramai i raro i te \u0101huatanga o t\u0113r\u0101 i k\u014Drero, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000560\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EI te hui o te m\u0101tauranga i te rangi nei, i puta te k\u014Drero ko te tino kaupapa ko te m\u0101tauranga. Ana, ko t\u0113nei take, me heri i ng\u0101 kura katoa o Te Tai R\u0101whiti kia m\u014Dhio mai ai, \u0101, ko ng\u0101 p\u0101nga, ng\u0101 uauatanga i p\u0101 mai ki a koutou e aku rangatira. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000561\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EKa huri atu r\u0101 ki a au, ki a Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, ki te taha ki a au ki a Te Arawa. E te p\u0101p\u0101 Te Ariki haere mai, me t\u014D t\u0101tau tira. Me p\u0113nei rawa te k\u014Drero. He k\u014Drero i puta i a koe i ng\u0101 tau kua hipa ake. Ko t\u0101u k\u014Drero ki t\u0113tahi hui i te k\u0101inga e p\u0113nei ana. E k\u012B, e k\u012B ko wai te pokok\u014Dhua e k\u012B ana, \u0113hara a Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino i te iwi. Taku m\u014Dhio e tika ana taku k\u014Drero. E k\u012B, e k\u012B, ko wai te pokok\u014Dhua e k\u012B ana \u0113hara a Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino i te iwi? An\u0101, ko te whakatinanatanga, ko te pu\u0101waitanga, ko te hua o t\u0113r\u0101 k\u014Drero, kei roto i te pire i te p\u014D nei. Ahakoa ng\u0101 k\u014Drero i te k\u0101inga, an\u0101, kua whakamanahia e te ture i t\u0113nei p\u014D. Kai taku p\u0101p\u0101, haere mai. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000562\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EE kore au e k\u014Drero wh\u0101nui nei m\u014D te \u0101huatanga o t\u0113nei take i te mea, \u0101, ko t\u0101tau an\u014D t\u0101tau. Engari, ko te mea pai, \u0101, ka hoki an\u014D r\u0101 ng\u0101 maunga, ng\u0101 w\u0101hi tapu ki a t\u0101tau o te k\u0101inga. Ka mutu ka whiwhi i t\u0113tahi p\u016Btea hai \u0101whina an\u014D hoki i ng\u0101 mea katoa. N\u014D reira, e aroha atu ana ki te hunga k\u0101re i konei i t\u0113nei p\u014D ki te whakarongo ki ng\u0101 k\u014Drero, ki te whakatutuki i t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 kaupapa. Ka hoki ng\u0101 mahara ki ng\u0101 hui i runga i t\u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 marae o t\u0101tau, i \u014Ctamar\u0101kau. Ka mutu, i eke atu te Minita, ko t\u0101u tohutohu ki a ia e te matua, ki te k\u012B atu me homai te p\u016Btea, \u0113r\u0101 \u0101huatanga katoa. Ko te pu\u0101waitanga o ng\u0101 k\u014Drero i te p\u014D nei, an\u0101 kua eke, kua eke t\u0113nei pire i te p\u014D nei. N\u014D reira, kua rahi m\u0101ku m\u014D t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 kaupapa. Ko t\u0101ku noa ake, he whakatakoto i \u0113tahi k\u014Drero hei w\u0101nanga m\u0101 t\u0101tau. Me te mihi ki a koutou e kawe nei ki t\u0113nei mihinga mokopuna e rua nei ki t\u0113nei taumata. Kua eke, kua eke, kua eke. T\u012Bhei mauri ora! Kia ora t\u0101tau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000563\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson, and greetings to all of us, the House. To begin my speech, I must pay tribute to those above in the public gallery. Thank you for coming from so far away. Some of you arrived this morning to the conference on education called by the Hon H\u0113kia Parata. However, this evening we have another matter. So I want to simply follow up the acknowledgments by the Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs to each and every one of you. Not just to Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino by itself, or Ngai T\u0101manuhiri separately, but rather, let us say, to you collectively who came here tonight to listen to the speeches\u2014so greetings to you, greetings to you, and greetings to us all. Welcome, with the deaths of the day to be acknowledged shortly. I salute those who lost their lives and served in the armed forces. Welcome, old one, God of War. Come into this Chamber, upon whose walls are the stories. So this is you who have arrived. Welcome to you and everyone throughout the Chamber, greetings to you and all of us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000564\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EI will not repeat what the Minister has stated. He has already addressed the issues relating to you of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. I fear that some may say that much of this M\u0101ori\u2019s address will be on him, Te Arawa, and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. Anyway, that is that talk. I simply want to speak broadly, because you have heard the tenor of the speeches expressed tonight. I will not talk genealogy. It is not the done thing for Te Arawa to talk about genealogy relating to Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. That is for them to relate. In matters relating to me, Te Arawa, my uncle Te Ariki M\u014Drehu is here; that is his domain, he speaks for me. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000565\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EBut this evening I want to speak in broad terms about the issues in the bills. There are many similarities in bills like these. Firstly, within these bills is an apology by the Crown. That is good. There must be an apology for the wrongdoing, interference, and abuses by the Crown against various tribes and subtribes in years past. It is only right that an apology is given. Secondly, what is at the heart of these problems and of these claims under scrutiny? The land is the reason. It was confiscated by a form of law; I will come back to that point in a short while. To me, the third reason is the lack of knowledge by most of the country of the commentary and history lying hidden in these bills. Most of the stories relating to this tribe and that tribe have yet to be published to the nation. When Maori put their hand up and say \u201CThis is mine under the Treaty of Waitangi.\u201D, some people do not even consider it. Why? They do not know\u2014that is why. So if there is something positive in these kinds of bills, it has to be that, in my view: the release of knowledge and stories about Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino and Ngai T\u0101manuhiri to all tribes bringing issues before Parliament. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000566\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EEnough, let me go back again to the speeches at the beginning. According to what I see now, let us start with you, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, for a short while. Before 1865, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri owned their lands at that time. But what I see now is that you sat on the fence somewhat over the East Coast battles that year. You did not lend a helping hand to anyone else, take up the patu, taiaha, or engage in warfare. No. And yet, here you are now, occupying your lands. Eventually, and after a period of time, colonial soldiers overcame Te Waerenga-a-Hika. I understand that women and children were abused. Loss of food and land resulted. Now you can see here the similarities of the claims that have come into this House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000567\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EMention must be made of the circumstances that saw some of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri banished over the waters to the Chatham Islands for 2 years, as I understand it. Living conditions were difficult there. Why were they sent there? There was not a reason. Not one. So whoever suffers as the result of an action of the Crown must receive an apology. Further to that, there was invasion of lands by soldiers. That happened in Taranaki and in Tauranga, and in other areas, as it did to you, as well, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, hence the confiscation of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri\u2019s interests in their ancestral lands. It was like that throughout the country. Land was stolen, taken wrongfully, and all those kind of things. It happened to you, too, my chiefs. It was a form of partitioning land off, a portion to that person and another to someone else. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000568\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EBut from my M\u0101ori perspective, we must amalgamate the land so that the benefit goes to everyone. Keep the land as one\u2014do not divide it. Why? Benefit will not accrue by doing it that way. The lifestyle of a person will not change\u2014it remains on hold. The M\u0101ori Land Court was like that in the past. It was like that in other parts of the country, as well. The Public Works Act was one. What despicable legislation that was. Its job in those times was to steal the land. Now what I have read in relation to you, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, was published in the statement about the Manut\u016Bk\u0113 consolidation scheme. It is not as though I really know much about the circumstances relating to that scheme, but I understand that from 1958 the Crown came to an agreement and released to you some lands belonging to another tribe, as compensation for the land it stole from you in the first place. That happened elsewhere, as well. Rubbish and sewage went out to sea near Gisborne, tarnishing and damaging the coast, as in other areas. Furthermore, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri had sacred sites, and what role did the Government have in that? To steal those sacred sites. So the desire to settle claims is at hand and has been reached. So come forth under the circumstances of that statement, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000569\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EAt the forum on education today, a statement was made that the real emphasis must be on education. There it is in a nutshell: take all the schools on the East Coast and make them aware of the effects and difficulties that will affect you, my leaders. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000570\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EI turn now to focus my attention on myself, on Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, that side that connects me to Te Arawa. Welcome, my uncle Te Ariki M\u014Drehu, with your company of travellers, welcome. Let me share this story about something you said some years ago. What you said at a gathering at home went like this: \u201CIs that so? What a cheek! Who is the boiled head saying that Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino is not a tribe?\u201D. To my knowledge, what I have recounted is true: \u201CIs that so? What a cheek! Who is the boiled head saying that Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino is not a tribe?\u201D. There you are, what blossomed and came into existence out of that statement is all there in the bill tonight. Regardless of what was said at home, it will move through the stages of becoming law tonight. So to you, esteemed father, welcome. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000571\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EI will not expand too much on the circumstances of this matter, because we are who we are. But the good thing, perhaps, about all this, is that the mountains and sacred sites will return once again to us at home. Furthermore, we will get funding to help us as well, in everything. However, my heart goes out to those who are not here tonight to listen to the speeches that will complete this legislation. I think back to the meetings on our marae at \u014Ctamar\u0101kau. Furthermore, when the Minister came on, your advice to him was to provide the funding and everything else. All the talk comes to bear this evening, it has made it, this legislation has made it this evening. So, I have said enough about this legislation. What is left for me to do is to simply put forth some statements for us to debate, and to congratulate you collectively, of course, for bringing these two little offerings to this level. It has made it, it has made it, it has made it. Behold the breath of life! Thanks to everyone.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022 data-id=\u002256cdf916428741b9a3f28f9344952af0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000572\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002256cdf916428741b9a3f28f9344952af0\u0022\u003EBRENDAN HORAN (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E It is a great privilege for me to stand on behalf of New Zealand First. Today is a landmark day. Toit\u016B te whenua, toit\u016B te tangata, toit\u016B te mana\u2014the land endures, the people prevail, the mana is secure. These tribal settlements are about the nexus of place, people, and prestige. They do not guarantee success of their own right, but they do acknowledge the debt of history. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000573\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EI would also agree with the speakers who have been before me, and I would welcome everyone here in the gallery. And I would ask you please to stand, because although you are small in number, you are immense in presence. You represent the hard work, the blood, the sweat, the tears of all those who have gone before you. You know the hardships that you have endured, and your place is special here in this whare raiona\u2014this lion\u2019s den. Here you are. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000574\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EI would like to acknowledge T\u016B Wyllie. I acknowledge T\u016B as an example of the many people who have done such hard work, as he was a former New Zealand First MP. He knows what hard work is about. He knows about loyalty, and so I would like to acknowledge him\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000575\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229b3e376e85cb4dee9b4e97d08637a63c\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: Whatever! Talk about something you know about.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000576\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e1a5868a65e34bef93a1e7e322ef1b48\u0022\u003EBRENDAN HORAN\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014unlike some follicly challenged members I know. But never mind; this is not the time for that. What I am saying, though, is that I am proud to be here and I acknowledge your presence, and you are not alone, because I see many people here. I see a great presence. If you would join with me and waiata with me:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000577\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EE Ihow\u0101 Atua,\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000578\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EO ng\u0101 iwi m\u0101tou r\u0101,\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000579\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003E\u0100ta whakarangona\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000580\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EMe aroha noa\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000581\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EKia hua ko te pai;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000582\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EKia tau t\u014D atawhai;\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000583\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EManaakitia mai\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000584\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EAotearoa\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EThank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022 data-id=\u0022ffcf24555e694ce99792cb66ef7b8bc4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000586\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ffcf24555e694ce99792cb66ef7b8bc4\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE (National):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te Rangatira, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou i haere mai i t\u0113nei p\u014D. N\u014D reira, mihi kau atu ana ki a koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000587\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E[Greetings, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson, greetings to you. Greetings to those of you who came here tonight. So acknowledgments to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000588\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003ENew Zealand First, back in the House, eh? And all they can do is sing the national anthem! That is it. That is the sum total of New Zealand First\u2019s contribution to two Treaty bills. Damn, that was good! I cannot wait to go home and tell my moko that Brendan Horan had the opportunity to say something really, really deep, and all he could do was sing the national anthem. And do you know what, Brendan Horan? It was not even a good version. And let me tell those people over there that if he wants to have a go about loyalty in New Zealand First, then how come T\u016B Wyllie was not put up to No. 2 on the list when he stayed with New Zealand First? I do not think that is anything to do with loyalty.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000589\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea338f5ec974442eb4566ffaf5dee372\u0022\u003EHon Nanaia Mahuta\u003C/span\u003E: What number are you?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000590\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c950d54c06ea44f6a0f8a28ab76ddd66\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: No. 40 and I still got in. No. 40 and I still got in. No. 40 and there were still people after me who got in. It may not happen next time, but I am very proud of the fact. It may not happen again, but, hey, I do not digress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a536d3c2-6293-4216-b0bd-dfec1bd6f40c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022733eb3d558bb49a3ab68058667b14778\u0022\u003EAndrew Williams\u003C/span\u003E: Why are you playing snakes and ladders?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000592\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022be7c41dfcf2c43789af7e47a78ff0d07\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry, what was that?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000593\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a536d3c2-6293-4216-b0bd-dfec1bd6f40c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229b0fa137de32471e91a1d3a23b89dd15\u0022\u003EAndrew Williams\u003C/span\u003E: Why are you playing snakes and ladders, with you being the snake going downwards?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000594\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229edbae6a452f4acb9ad737a4f2ec4318\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: Well, look, at least I can go to the toilet properly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000595\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c45da65037d14ac59080114115e14817\u0022\u003EHon Parekura Horomia\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. We are here this evening debating and discussing a very, very serious matter that history has put asunder, that people in Parliament have trampled on, and I think it is correct that we get on with the business rather than play oral fights.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000596\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002213f078efd6154852912aafd67bc3ea0f\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order, there is a long tradition in this House that when there are interjections, a member who has got the call can respond to those interjections\u2014especially if they are of a personal nature.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000597\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b53ef2bef8ce4ba08ca9a4836456388b\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson)\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you. I also remind the House that if they look at Speakers\u2019 rulings, there is also some leeway given when people make contributions in the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000598\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c99c71aeb2d04a589bef663d4a624ba9\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE\u003C/span\u003E: We have heard the platitudes of nearly every member in the House, and along with those I add mine as well. My congratulations go to iwi, to the Government, to the Public Service, to the Office of Treaty Settlements, to Crown Law, and to everybody involved in trying to bring closure to this aspect of New Zealand\u2019s history.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000599\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EBut let us not forget that it is a deal between the Crown and iwi. Therefore, I want to ruffle a few feathers, as I am wont to do on many occasions, and say that this House looks very seriously at how we deal with Treaty settlements. I say that because when the bill comes to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, the select committee cannot change any part of the deal between iwi and the Crown\u2014it cannot do that. And sometimes I wonder why we waste iwi time, and why we waste the House\u2019s time, by having the bill go to a select committee. It is my opinion that because it is a deal between the Crown and iwi, there must be some way where we can speed up the process so that iwi can get on with the job of looking after iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000600\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003ESo I want to say that what we have done in the select committee is two things. One is to split the committee in half and have a couple of committees go out and do our business. And we have also promised ourselves that the turn-round will not be 6 months, it will not be 3 months; it will be between 4 and 8 weeks. So we give that commitment to iwi so that they can get on with the job at hand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000601\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI will not be too long, but there is something else that I want to respond to, and that is some suggestion that section 9 of the State-Owned Enterprises Act has something to do with what we are talking about. All I can say is that at the end of the consultation process, I can guarantee\u2014because I am a member of this Government\u2014that there will be the Crown\u2019s response to iwi and the Crown\u2019s recognition that it must take into account the Treaty of Waitangi. That is the Crown\u2019s responsibility. So if section 9 does go, there will be a rewritten clause that still says the Crown has a responsibility to take into account the Treaty of Waitangi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000602\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI just briefly want to mention something that the Hon Parekura Horomia mentioned in his speech, and that is the issue about rates, and it has been a vexed issue for Government as far back as my great-grandfather who just happened to be a member of Parliament nearly 100 years ago. I think that there is coming a time where we will\u2014both sides of the House\u2014have to agree on a mechanism for the rating, or not, of M\u0101ori land, because it is getting completely out of hand, and the only losers are those M\u0101ori who have shares in M\u0101ori land.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000603\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EHoi an\u014D, taku mihi ki a koutou katoa. An\u014D taku mihi ki a ng\u0101 rangatira o te Whare nei, taku tuakana a Parekura, \u0101, n\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora mai t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000604\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E[Thus I acknowledge you all. My compliments to the leading figures of this House, to my elder Parekura, so greetings to you, greetings to you, and greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022 data-id=\u002265e4927136cf46379e89a74def4c6579\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000605\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002265e4927136cf46379e89a74def4c6579\u0022\u003ERINO TIRIKATENE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Tonga):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson, ng\u0101 mihi tino pai o t\u0113nei tau. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 rangatira o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri me Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. Ko koutou te reo karanga o te r\u0101. Mihi tonu atu ki a koutou katoa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000606\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson, and the very finest of this year to you. Greetings to you, the leaders of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, greetings. It is your voice that calls today. This acknowledgment is directed at you all, so salutations and greetings.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000607\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI am very proud to join with my Labour colleagues here in support of the two bills before this House this evening: the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill. It is an honour, because I completed my maiden speech just a couple of days ago and today is my first official speech before the House, so I am very thrilled to be talking to these very important bills. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000608\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI acknowledge Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino for travelling here today to celebrate this significant occasion and the passage of these important bills before the House, and in the progression of your Treaty settlements. So I mihi to you all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000609\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EAs an uri of Tahup\u014Dtiki\u2014Ng\u0101i Tahu\u2014I would like to specifically just focus at this point of my speech on the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill. I acknowledge the whanaungatanga connections that I have and that all of us in Te Tai Tonga and Ng\u0101i Tahu wh\u0101nui, whom I represent, have with Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. I acknowledge the common ancestry we that we have as cousins. The Ngai T\u0101manuhiri claims settlement is the first of the T\u016Branga claims, which is the first in the Gisborne area. So I also acknowledge getting first off the blocks in terms of the progression of this bill to this stage. I look forward to seeing other progress made across the T\u016Branga region. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000610\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EWe would not be here today without the support, effort, hard work, and toil over many years that has gone into the claims from both of the respective iwi. I acknowledge all of those who have gone before\u2014who have progressed and championed and gone through tribunal processes, and the hard sweat and toil that goes into bringing the settlements to this point in time. In particular, I would like to acknowledge all of those who were involved in the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri lands claim negotiations team: Dawn P\u014Dmana, Reuben Riki, who died just before the land claims hearings commenced, Melanie Tarsau, and Pauline Hill; then, in 2007, Hope T\u016Bpara; and from 2008 to 2011, N\u0101 Rongowhakaata Raih\u0101nia. I also acknowledge the research team that was involved with the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri claims: Warren P\u014Dhat\u016B, Noel P\u014Dhat\u016B, Hope T\u016Bpara, kaum\u0101tua N\u0101 Raih\u0101nia, Hare P\u014Dhat\u016B, who is deceased, Rose Thompson, who is also deceased\u2014and we acknowledge them\u2014Temple Isaacs, and Nolan Raih\u0101nia, who I understand are in the House tonight. I acknowledge all of those individuals in regard to participating in the hard work of advancing these important claims through to this point in time, to this stage of the bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000611\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EIn terms of my own association with Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, I would like to relate my own firsthand experience dealing with Ngai T\u0101manuhiri when I was with Ng\u0101i Tahu. I mentioned the close association that we have whakapapa-wise, and that extended right in terms of the fisheries settlements, with the Treaty tribes coalition, and the kaupapa that we stood on with mana whenua, mana moana. So I acknowledge Ngai T\u0101manuhiri in that respect and in the history that we have in those other areas of Treaty settlements. In particular, what I learnt from my associations with Ng\u0101i T\u0101manuhiri\u2014and, in particular, Dawn P\u014Dmana\u2014was the very principled approach that they have to their tikanga. That was to the fore in all the dealings that Ng\u0101i Tahu had with Ngai T\u0101manuhiri in terms of our annual dealings around our fisheries transactions and the like. That has flowed through to all of the mahi that has gone on, culminating this evening in the presentation of this bill for its first reading. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000612\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI would like to also acknowledge the history that is embodied in the settlement that is now before us in this bill, which was ratified through the deed of settlement. That actually goes back to all of the historical injustices and grievances that were inflicted upon Ngai T\u0101manuhiri by the Crown, right through from the 1860s, in terms of land dealings and the operation of the Poverty Bay Commission, and the impact of the operation of the Native Land Court. There is a lot of history and a lot of grievances there, and they were fully expressed through the Waitangi Tribunal reports. They highlighted the very severe breaches of the Treaty in the T\u016Branga area and, in particular, against Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000613\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThe historical background is there, and these settlements go some way towards trying to acknowledge the grievances of the past, and I know the Crown does include its apologies, but it does not nearly compensate for all of the lost opportunities, the mamae, and the grievance that has been inflicted upon the iwi and the many generations of wh\u0101nau. That is why I am very proud to be here this evening to play my part in advancing this important bill through to the next stage, so we can actually enact some measure of redress and compensation and apologies through this legislation, and so we can address the issues of the past and also lay a platform for ongoing relationships for Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and the Crown, and also for Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino and the Crown. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000614\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI would just like to support again with my Labour colleagues the passage of this legislation through to the select committee stage. I acknowledge my whanaunga the Hon Tau Henare n\u014D te n\u014Dta as our chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I look forward to playing my part on the committee, especially when we will be breaking into two subcommittees so we can advance the progression of these bills, and to leading this legislation right through this House so that we can finally put the seal on it and pass it right the way through the House. I commend the passage of this legislation at this time. Kia ora an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022 data-id=\u0022afe592b7ec7343868ffdad5f3fe0aac2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000615\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022afe592b7ec7343868ffdad5f3fe0aac2\u0022\u003EJAMI-LEE ROSS (National\u2014Botany):\u003C/span\u003E I am pleased to speak on the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill. I must admit to the House this is the first time I have spoken on a Treaty settlement bill. I am new on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, so I apologise to those listening if I cannot give this legislation quite the thorough explanation, acknowledgment, and indeed acclamation that I know the legislation deserves. I will, however, be doing my best to listen to the submissions to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, and I am sure I will indeed get quite an education under the guidance of rangatira Tau Henare, our chairman on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000616\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003EI wish to first acknowledge the work that has been done by the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, the Hon Chris Finlayson, and all those involved in getting these settlement bills to the point that they are at now. The great progress that the Minister has made on completing final and durable settlements of Treaty of Waitangi claims in a timely manner, through his tenure as the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, is impressive. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000617\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003EI think New Zealand is still maturing as a nation, and we are stepping forward into the 21st century. Part of the maturing process is acknowledging the rights and wrongs of the past. It would be easy for New Zealanders to simply ignore that in our short history as a country many cultural and economic wrongs were committed. Indeed, for many decades New Zealand has ignored that these issues prevailed. But the fact that we are here together, today, debating these bills, these pieces of legislation, that will stand alongside many past and future settlement bills, indicates that as a country we are ready to accept the past and move forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000618\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E The part of the country that I represent, the Botany electorate, is predominantly white, middle to upper-class suburban Auckland. It is an area of the country that is quite sceptical of Treaty settlements, and I have to admit that I probably was too, up until recently. But the more I have seen and read of Treaty settlements and the programme, and the more I have watched from afar the work that the Minister and the Office of Treaty Settlements have done, the more I can see that through resolving the wrongs of the past we can refloat and regain momentum for the waka that is harmonious New Zealand race relations. In my view the key part to reassuring New Zealanders who are sceptical about Treaty settlements is to assure them that under this Government Treaty settlements have been, and will continue to be, full, fair, and final. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000619\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003EParts of the deeds of settlement, which outline historical grievances for both Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, I have to say, make for very sobering reading. In the case of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri we read of indiscriminate looting of the T\u016Branga region at the hands of the Crown in the aftermath of the Waerenga-a-hika attack. The Waerenga-a-hika attack itself saw women and children, among other occupants, put through unwarranted and unjust attacks at the hands of the Crown. Land was compulsorily acquired without compensation, and many Ngai T\u0101manuhiri were left virtually landless. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000620\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003EA similar story is told in the case of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. The year 1864 saw the loss of life at the hands of the Crown, confiscation of land in the Eastern Bay of Plenty took place in 1866, and between 1873 and 1900, 82,000 hectares of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino land was alienated. By the end of the 19th century less than 4 percent of land of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino\u2019s Waitahanui, T\u0101hunaroa, and Whakarewa blocks remained in their hands\u2014and please excuse my pronunciation if I have got any of those incorrect. These are just a few of the many injustices that took place in the past\u2014injustices that up until recently were not acknowledged. But the Crown has now acknowledged these injustices and has apologised through these two settlements. The settlements we have before us tonight will help Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino unlock economic potential and provide a boost to their regional and provincial areas. In turn, these two iwi will be able to contribute in an even greater way towards building a more competitive and productive New Zealand economy. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000621\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003EThese bills are worthy of passage through their first reading tonight. I ask that the House does support them, and I hope that we have thorough and good quality recognition of the issues through the select committee process. I am looking forward to hearing about the issues that we will be discussing at the select committee, and I look forward to this legislation passing its first reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000622\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022807e61ef499c460e9633cf4535b763b2\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: I understand the next call is a split call, 5 minutes with Labour and 5 minutes with the Greens. I will ring a bell with 1 minute to go.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022 data-id=\u00221a9673dae3994b24b7f67ff96d32adda\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000623\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221a9673dae3994b24b7f67ff96d32adda\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour\u2014Hauraki-Waikato):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Assistant Speaker Tisch. Ka t\u0101piri atu \u0101ku mihi i waihotia ki a koutou Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri i tau mai nei ki roto i t\u014D Whare, ki te whakarongo ki \u0113nei k\u014Drero i t\u0113nei p\u014D. N\u014D reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000624\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker Tisch. I add my tributes that were bestowed upon you Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino and Ngai T\u0101manuhiri when you landed here in your House to listen to these speeches tonight. So greetings to you collectively, greetings to you and to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ETreaty settlements are more than an academic exercise. It is about passion and the history of people who are trying to seek redress for past wrongs. I want to acknowledge that this is a first reading opportunity for the bills from Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino to come to the House, so the substance of the investigations on the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill will in fact occur in the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, which is right. But it is important to note that in the innovation of hearing Treaty settlements over this period of time\u2014and I came into Parliament when the first lot of Treaty settlements started to come to this House\u2014we as members of Parliament have started to improve processes around the processing of Treaty settlements, because, by and large, if the purpose of Brendan Horan\u2019s speech was to highlight that the nation that we seek to create is one built strongly on biculturalism, and the national anthem is in M\u0101ori and English, then Treaty settlements are an important part of creating a sense of nationhood and identity, and addressing the historical wrongs is a strong pillar of what Aotearoa New Zealand should stand for. It is a country where those rights of tangata whenua are recognised, where the hurts of the past are addressed, but where, enabled to get over that particular hurdle, the next generation can look forward and move forward with confidence. And it is no easy feat to reach this part of a Treaty settlement. So my comments are, by and large, to both Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino and Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000626\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ESometimes people wonder why we are coming to the House to hear the first reading speeches when everybody seems to be saying the same thing again, and again, and again in 10 different ways. But let me give you three good reasons why the select committee process is an important process. Firstly, it ensures the intent of your deed aligns to how the legislation actually reads. As you all know, some times the devil is in the detail. So it is really important during the scrutiny at the select committee for members to look at what was intended in the deed and how the legislation reads to ensure that it lines up. That is the first thing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000627\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThe second thing is the broader aspect of educating our country. Members of Parliament hold, in some sense, a microcosm of the view of our communities, from where we come from, and we can inform our communities about what is happening through the Treaty settlement process, and allay fears, but also present new opportunities for people to learn about histories that are not easily found in the history books. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000628\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThe third part of the select committee process, which is often a critical part but the most difficult to challenge and change, is for members or Parliament to put greater scrutiny on the way in which the Crown or the Government acts, and that is through the Office of Treaty Settlements when it deals with M\u0101ori. It is very difficult to challenge the way in which the Office of Treaty Settlements often engages through the negotiation process, but it is an opportunity for members of Parliament to put a fine lens on issues that are highlighted to them at the select committee process to ensure that people are treated fairly in the way they seek to negotiate redress through their Treaty settlement. So those are but three reasons why the select committee process in bringing your bills to the House is a necessary if not absolutely important task of achieving Treaty settlements. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000629\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI will reserve my comments on the substance of these two bills, if I get the opportunity to speak to the third readings. But I want to acknowledge those people who have passed, both from Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino and Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, those people who have carried the flame of your Treaty settlement claim to this point, and those kaum\u0101tua who now hold the flame so that the next generation continues to tell the story that must be told to ensure the most important clause of both your bills\u2014and that is clause 4: \u201CThis Act binds the Crown.\u201D And for as long as this Act binds the Crown, then it is inherent on every member of Parliament who accedes to your Treaty settlement that it be implemented in the manner for which it was intended, and that is to uphold the deed in your Treaty settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, i raro i \u0113r\u0101 kupu poto kua whakar\u0101popoto \u0101ku nei k\u014Drero ki a koutou. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000631\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[So under the realm of those brief words, I shorten this address of mine to you collectively. Greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000632\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002282b17affc25847afa6d49ac42b2ea090\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: I call\u2014which one is this? I call Denise Roche. My apologies\u2014there are three of you who look very similar.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00222df33ee5-23d6-441c-a9ba-6495aa69f9fd\u0022 data-id=\u0022032421cca4b54313ae4cadffdb5d9b1f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000633\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222df33ee5-23d6-441c-a9ba-6495aa69f9fd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022032421cca4b54313ae4cadffdb5d9b1f\u0022\u003EDENISE ROCHE (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. We P\u0101keh\u0101 often look the same! T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E ng\u0101 rangatira o Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino nau mai, haere mai ki konei. E ng\u0101 rangatira o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000634\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222df33ee5-23d6-441c-a9ba-6495aa69f9fd\u0022\u003E[Greetings to you collectively, greetings, greetings. Welcome to the leaders of Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, welcome here. Greetings collectively as well to you, the leaders of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, greetings, greetings.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000635\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222df33ee5-23d6-441c-a9ba-6495aa69f9fd\u0022\u003EThis is my first time as well, standing after my maiden speech, and I am privileged to be speaking on these bills tonight, the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill. I acknowledge all the statements that have gone before me, and I particularly want to mihi to Nanaia Mahuta about the building of nationhood and the importance of the passing of these settlements, which will do that for our country of Aotearoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000636\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222df33ee5-23d6-441c-a9ba-6495aa69f9fd\u0022\u003EThe Green Party has a story that we want to tell. It is basically about our relationship with Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. This is not to disrespect the settlement process that is going through for Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino, but there has been a personal relationship that we want to outline. The $12 million settlement can be described really as a deal, but not a settlement. The people from Muriwai and the rohe katoa have negotiated a deal, and we have been told by some that it was a valuable process in terms of reaffirming their own story, but it is a deal. It is what they could get. Settlement means when all the dust has been laid to rest; there is still dust floating in the clouds around Te Kur\u012B a Paoa. It is not for the Green Party to say what should have been included in that settlement\u2014that is your story; that is the work that you have been doing for decades and decades\u2014but we do have a story that we want to acknowledge. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000637\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222df33ee5-23d6-441c-a9ba-6495aa69f9fd\u0022\u003ENgai T\u0101manuhiri say that when Capitain Cook\u2019s and Young Nick\u2019s ship entered the bay at T\u016Branga-nui-a-Kiwa they became the front line of the historical mythology of how this country was colonised. Their maunga\u2014Te Kur\u012B a Paoa\u2014was renamed Young Nicks Head by Captain Cook. The appropriation of Te Kur\u012B a Paoa did not stop there, and that is how the Green Party, through my colleague Catherine Delahunty and her partner Gordon Jackman, became involved, supporting the 21st century struggle of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri to stop the sale of Te Kur\u012B a Paoa to a New York stockbroker called John Griffin. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000638\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222df33ee5-23d6-441c-a9ba-6495aa69f9fd\u0022\u003EThe maunga had been in P\u0101keh\u0101 hands for many years as a farm, and when the Coop family decided to sell it Ngai T\u0101manuhiri sought desperately for the money to make an offer to regain their maunga. In 2002 the Greens supported their occupation of the p\u0101 site Rangihoua, and Green MPs at the time Rod Donald, Nandor Tanczos, and our co-leader Metiria Turei all visited the occupation, if you can call sitting on your own maunga such a thing. Current Green MP Catherine Delahunty and Gordon Jackman also supported the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri h\u012Bkoi to Wellington to fight for the opportunity for purchase. A ghastly compromise meant that some of the w\u0101hi tapu would be kept as public land and access to them acknowledged, while most of the maunga was sold to Mr Griffin. Foreign ownership of an iconic landmark was a national disgrace, as well as a breach of te Tiriti, but Mr Griffin had the most money. Under this bill, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri regain the p\u0101 site on the maunga, Rangihoua, and the cliff-face is gifted to the nation in recognition of history. Their generosity is greater than anything ever shown to you as a people in this painful story, but the p\u0101 site is an important and significant inclusion. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000639\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222df33ee5-23d6-441c-a9ba-6495aa69f9fd\u0022\u003EThe Green Party still believes that foreign ownership of sacred maunga is an abuse of te Tiriti, and we regret that the settlement process amounts to a partial redress of a deep hara. The access to fighting grounds of ancient value and current needs is via the permission of the American stockbroker and his farm manager\u2014it is goodwill. It is good that the forestry lands on Wharerata will be available to purchase now to Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, but at market rates. We stole your whenua and now you can buy it back at market rates\u2014that is the deal. Take it or leave it! \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000640\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222df33ee5-23d6-441c-a9ba-6495aa69f9fd\u0022\u003EThere is more to be said on this history, but at first reading we simply wish to acknowledge the people of Muriwai, the rohe, and also Te Kur\u012B a Paoa, where the pou was placed by the people during the protests and where it still stands in the winds, always belonging to mana whenua, whatever the outcome of the process. And so it will always stand. We acknowledge the journey that you have yet to go. We will support this bill. We recognise that it does not meet the full redress, and that is something we are concerned about, but we support you. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022 data-id=\u0022be8702384a0e4d9c82c872f3118eaa58\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000641\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022be8702384a0e4d9c82c872f3118eaa58\u0022\u003ELOUISE UPSTON (National\u2014Taup\u014D):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te Mana Whakaw\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te Whare. Rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou i runga i te kaupapa o te r\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 rangatira o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri me Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000642\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E[Greetings to you, Mr Assistant Speaker Tisch, and the House. I extend greetings to you, the many leaders, in respect of the matter of the day. Greetings to the leaders of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino. Greetings to you, greetings to you, and greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000643\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EI am proud to stand and take the final call in this first reading of the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill and the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill, and very proud of the record that we have made as a National Government in getting durable settlements through, as part of our progress towards full partnership. I am proud of our Ministers involved, and, like all members of this House, I am very proud to be supporting unanimously this first reading. I look forward to meeting with you during the select committee process. Thank you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000644\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003ENgai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill read a first time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000645\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EBill referred to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000646\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti M\u0101kino Claims Settlement Bill read a first time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000647\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EBill referred to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000648\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EWaiata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000649\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ea837941a114428eac20b095f54ff5a4\u0022\u003ESecond Readings\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000651\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022455b32920e5b4e519068fd080e91696e\u0022\u003ESecond Readings\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022 data-id=\u002264ef045d39f54ebcba6c9aa24abfec8d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000650\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002264ef045d39f54ebcba6c9aa24abfec8d\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES (Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs):\u003C/span\u003E As the lead speaker on these cognate bills covering five iwi, I seek leave for an extension of 2 minutes on my time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000652\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002207654385ed974a1b800ebdd8b6f9b835\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection. I shall ring the bell at 10 minutes with 2 minutes to go.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c8a03c7174d14bdd8a2936760b665af5\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: T\u0113n\u0101 koe. I move, That the Ng\u0101ti Manawa and Ng\u0101ti Whare Claims Settlement Bill, Nga Wai o Maniapoto (Waipa River) Bill, Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera Treaty Claims Settlement Bill, and Ngati Porou Claims Settlement Bill be now read a second time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000654\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira tuatahi, kei te mihi atu ki a koutou kua hara mai nei i t\u0113nei p\u014D me ng\u0101 mea k\u0101re an\u014D kia tae mai. E tika ana kia mihi atu ki \u0113nei iwi, \u0101, kua h\u012Bkoi i te h\u012Bkoi te roroanga mai i te t\u012Bmatanga tae noa ki t\u0113nei rangi, n\u0101 reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou e kaha \u0101kina. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou i \u014D koutou tini aitu\u0101. Ka hoki aku mahara ki a t\u0101tou e t\u016B kaha ana ki te tautoko i \u0113nei \u0101huatanga kai roto i \u014D koutou iwi. Ko Bill Bird t\u0113tahi, ko te p\u0101p\u0101 Whatumoana, ko T\u0101 H\u0113nare Ng\u0101ta, ko Meagan Joe, ko r\u0101tau me ng\u0101 mate o te w\u0101 nei. Haere koutou, okioki mai. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000655\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira, ka hoki au ki t\u0113nei k\u014Drero, ka mihi atu ki a koutou kua rauika i te p\u014D nei. K\u0101re e roa aku k\u014Drero m\u014D \u0113nei pire n\u0101 te mea he p\u0101nuitanga tuarua t\u0113nei, \u0101, waiho m\u014D te p\u0101nui whakamutunga, te p\u0101nui tuatoru kia t\u016B motuhake \u0113nei pire, \u0101, e \u0101ta k\u014Drero ai t\u0101tau i konei i roto i te Whare P\u0101remata. Heoi an\u014D, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000656\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[Firstly, I wish to acknowledge those of you who came this evening and also those who have not yet arrived. It is appropriate that I pay tribute to these tribes who have been on this long journey since the beginning to this day. Congratulations on your resilience. I acknowledge you and your many dead. My thoughts go back to when we stood staunch in support of these circumstances within your tribes. Bill Bird was one, our father-figure Whatumoana, Sir H\u0113nare Ngata, and Meagan Joe were others, and the deaths of the day. Depart, rest there. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000657\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003ESo I go back to this comment: welcome to you collectively who have assembled here tonight. I will not spend too long on these bills, because it is the second reading. Wait for the final and third reading when these bills stand independently and when we can address them here at length in the Chamber. So greetings to you, greetings to you, and greetings to you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000658\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Manawa: the area of interest for Ng\u0101ti Manawa is based around Murupara and the Kaingaroa Plains in the inland Bay of Plenty. The claims of Ng\u0101ti Manawa relate primarily to the consequences of its loyalty to the Crown during the New Zealand Wars, Crown actions and omissions in respect of the operation and impact of the native land laws, and the Crown\u2019s land purchasing techniques, particularly in respect of land Ng\u0101ti Manawa. This settlement is intended to recognise the traditional, historical, cultural, and spiritual interests of Ng\u0101ti Manawa. The key aspects of Ng\u0101ti Manawa\u2019s cultural redress package aim to reinvigorate the relationship between Ng\u0101ti Manawa and sites of significance. It is the intention of this settlement that this will be done through the vesting of sites of particular significance to Ng\u0101ti Manawa, the erection of pou r\u0101hui to mark traditional iwi boundaries, the creation of a body to restore Ng\u0101ti Manawa\u2019s and Ng\u0101ti Whare\u2019s mana over their ancestral river and their relationship with tuna, and the transfer and gift back of the ancestral maunga, T\u0101whiuau, to Ng\u0101ti Manawa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000659\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EM\u014D Ng\u0101ti Whare: the claims of Ng\u0101ti Whare primarily relate to the Crown\u2019s actions during the New Zealand Wars, specifically the impact of the Native Land Court and subsequent land alienation, the enactment of the Urewera District Native Reserve Act 1896, which disenfranchised Ng\u0101ti Whare from its land, and the return of Minginui Village by the Crown without providing Ng\u0101ti Whare with sufficient resources to bring the village infrastructure up to the standards of the Government. Ng\u0101ti Whare\u2019s settlement acknowledges the Whirinaki Te Pua-\u0101-T\u0101ne Conservation Park as a special place to both Ng\u0101ti Whare as kaitiaki and the people of New Zealand. It also establishes a renewed and enduring partnership between Ng\u0101ti Whare and the Crown. In particular, the settlement provides for a joint governance of the Whirinaki Te Pua-\u0101-T\u0101ne Conservation Park by Ng\u0101ti Whare and the Crown. The settlement also provides Ng\u0101ti Whare with assistance to regenerate indigenous mata\u012B, rimu, and kahikatea in areas of pine forest within the Whirinaki Crown forest licensed land. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000660\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EThe Nga Wai o Maniapoto (Waipa River) Bill: an\u014D, ka mihi au ki a koutou o Maniapoto. I acknowledge the work carried out by the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and thank committee members for their support and guidance on the Nga Wai o Maniapoto (Waipa River) Bill. The relationship between Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto and the Waip\u0101 River is significant and enduring, based on a deep-felt respect that the people of Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto have for the river Waip\u0101. This gives rise to their responsibility to protect te mana o te wai and to exercise kaitiakitanga in accordance with their tikanga. Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto and Waikato-Tainui share a strong relationship through the Tainui waka, which is manifested in the support they each give to the K\u012Bngitanga. In a similar way, their sacred awa, Waikato and Waip\u0101, are inextricably linked. From Ng\u0101ruaw\u0101hia, the pathways of these rivers join, and their waters flow together as one. The overarching purpose of the co-governance and co-management arrangements is to restore and maintain the quality and integrity of the waters that flow into and from, and form part of, the Waip\u0101 River for present and future generations. The co-governance arrangements within the bill extend towards the headwaters of the Waip\u0101 River at Pekepeke Springs in the Rangitoto ranges, supporting the ongoing aspirations and responsibilities shared by Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto and the Crown to protect and nurture the Waip\u0101 River. Extending the co-governance framework to include the whole of the Waip\u0101 River will contribute significantly to achieving an integrated, holistic, and coordinated approach to the management of both the Waip\u0101 River and the Waikato River, to the implementation of the vision and strategy, and to river rehabilitation and clean-up initiatives. The Nga Wai o Maniapoto (Waipa River) Bill complements the Waikato River settlement and the Waikato River co-management deeds with Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, Raukawa, and Te Arawa River Iwi. These arrangements are similar and contribute to establishing a single, unified co-governance framework for both the Waip\u0101 River and the Waikato River. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000661\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EThe Ngati Porou Claims Settlement Bill: the grievances of Ngati Porou are longstanding. This bill recognises and addresses those grievances and settles the historical Treaty of Waitangi claims of Ngati Porou. The area of interest for Ngati Porou is on the East Coast of the North Island. The historical grievances of Ngati Porou relate primarily to the Crown\u2019s failure to honour its Treaty promise to respect Ngati Porou rangatiratanga over its own affairs. The Crown imposed land tenure reform on Ngati Porou, which deprived iwi members of collective control over their land and made it difficult to utilise their land for economic development. Although it is not possible to fully compensate Ngati Porou or any claimant group for the loss that people have suffered, the redress in this bill seeks to recognise the longstanding cultural and spiritual association that Ngati Porou has within the region. It gives effect to the undertakings by the Crown in the deed of settlement by offering reconciliation redress, including an agreed historical account, Crown acknowledgments, and an apology; cultural redress that vests sites of cultural and historic significance; and a number of arrangements designed to facilitate good working relationships between Ngati Porou and the Crown. The financial and commercial redress of the settlement comprises $90 million in financial and commercial redress, $20 million in cultural and historical redress, and redress over Crown properties, including licensed forest land. I am confident that the Ngati Porou Claims Settlement Bill will settle the claims of Ngati Porou in a full and final manner, and set the foundation for a productive future relationship with the Crown. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000662\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EFinally, I will speak on the Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera Treaty Claims Settlement Bill. Although I was unable to participate in the policy decisions about the Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera settlement, due to a declared conflict of interest\u2014yeah\u2014it is with great interest that I stand to speak today in the second reading of the bill. Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera is a confederation of hap\u016B with historical interests in northern Hawke\u2019s Bay. The core area of interest extends from south of Wairoa along the coastline to the Waikari River, inland from these areas towards the Maungaharuru Range, and north towards the Waiau River. The claims of Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera include the failure of the Crown to make sure that Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera had sufficient lands for its future needs during the process of the land alienation that began in the 1850s. By the mid - 20th century Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera was virtually landless, and ever since has suffered economic, social, and cultural impoverishment. During the New Zealand Wars the Crown ignored warnings of a possible attack on Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera communities at M\u014Dhaka. When the attack occurred, the Crown provided minimum assistance to help Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera recover from the attack on the p\u0101 and k\u0101inga, even though the area had been left virtually defenceless because the warriors from Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera were away with the Crown\u2019s forces. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000663\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EThis bill seeks to right the wrongs of the past by recognising what has happened through an agreed historical account, Crown acknowledgments and an apology by the Crown to Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera, and an acceptance by Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera of that apology. This bill seeks to recognise the longstanding cultural and spiritual association that Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera has in the region, through vesting Te Heru o T\u016Breia in Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera, and the subsequent gift of a major portion of that area to the people of New Zealand as a historic reserve. Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera will also retain Nakunaku as a historic reserve, and 14 other cultural redress properties will be invested in the iwi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000664\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EThe bill also provides for some aspects of commercial redress to compensate Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera for what has been lost, including authorising the transfer of five former Wairoa District Council properties to Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera and licensed land within M\u014Dhaka Forest, as well as a right of first refusal over Crown properties in the core area. I am confident that the Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera Treaty Claims Settlement Bill will settle the iwi\u2019s Treaty claims in a full and final manner. The redress provided to Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera can never compensate it for what has been lost. I trust that the agreement reached with Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera that is embodied in this bill will enhance the relationship between the Crown and Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera in the future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000665\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EI look forward to all these bills proceeding to the Committee stage without delay. Ng\u0101 mihi ki a koutou kua hara mai nei i te p\u014D nei, \u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kei raro.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000666\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022250b8d64833e4cc29528b563528eb0c3\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson)\u003C/span\u003E: Before I call the next speaker, I wish to advise the House that it is a split call between the Hon Shane Jones and the Hon Parekura Horomia.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u0022cda15953fb00440bbd05ed6649ccecda\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000667\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cda15953fb00440bbd05ed6649ccecda\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I te tuatahi me mihi wh\u0101nui atu ki \u014D t\u0101tou huanga, \u014D t\u0101tou m\u0101tua whakarauika mai ki Te \u016Apoko o te Ika ki roto i \u201Cte ana o te raiona\u201D. E kara m\u0101 koutou n\u014D Te Tai R\u0101whiti, ahakoa k\u014Dwhiti noa atu ng\u0101 marama noho tonu mai ana koutou i waenga n\u014Dki i a m\u0101tou n\u0101 reira, e kara e koa ana te ng\u0101kau. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 kanohi pakeke, huri noa ki ng\u0101 iwi e whai p\u0101nga ana ki \u0113nei ker\u0113me, meinga nei ko Ng\u0101ti Whare, Ng\u0101ti Manawa, \u014D t\u0101tou huanga i te taihau\u0101uru i roto i te whare t\u0101tai o Maniapoto, huri atu ki te whitinga o te r\u0101, Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera, Ngati Porou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. \u0112hara koutou i te iwi tauh\u014Du ki t\u0113nei Whare. Otir\u0101 ko t\u0101ku he mihi atu ki a koutou. Tautoko hoki i te reo, atu i t\u014D t\u0101tou Minita ki a koutou, ki a t\u0101tou, n\u0101, te menemene mai ai koutou ki ng\u0101 M\u0101ori katoa i roto i t\u0113nei Whare, kaua ki t\u0101 koutou k\u014Dtiro a H\u0113kia anakenake. N\u0101 reira, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000668\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[An extensive welcome in the first instance to our relations and parents gathered here in Wellington, in \u201Cthe den of the lions\u201D. Those friends from the East Coast, you have remained there amongst us for many months, we are really pleased about that. Acknowledgments to you, the adult faces and those tribes with interests in these claims, Ng\u0101ti Whare, Ng\u0101ti Manawa, our relatives to the west in the ancestral house of Maniapoto, turning to the place where the sun rises, Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera and Ngati Porou, greetings to you collectively. You are no strangers to this House, and I welcome you sincerely. I also endorse the sentiments expressed by our Minister to you and us collectively. So cast a smile upon all the M\u0101ori members in this House, and not just upon your girl, H\u0113kia, alone. Greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000669\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI rise to make a short contribution. What we have ended up doing here is an unusual innovation in terms of the rules of Parliament. We have been able to conflate several bills into one session. I am told that it is an initiative known as a cognate. A cognate, as you know, is something very familiar to the M\u0101ori people because it means your blood, your whakapapa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000670\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EIt is good to see that after a long period of time we are finally seeing the end of the Treaty settlement process for these particular tribes. Sir Doug Graham made his contribution. We made our contribution, and I will be the first to admit that it could have been improved upon. Dr Cullen\u2014that peerless parliamentarian\u2014towards the end of our time certainly sped things up, so we have got no hesitation whatsoever in supporting the current Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations to expedite the claims. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000671\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI think it is important that we remind those of our m\u0101tua and supporters from the various iwi who are here this evening that there are other issues confronting you, not the least of which those who have vested interests in the ongoing administration and utilisation of rivers and waters associated. That is a big issue that stands in front of us. But please do not make an unsubstantiated, bare, political plea that M\u0101oris own the water. Please be sophisticated enough to bring back evidence and bring back claims that bear strength that we have vested interests in the future in the rivers of P\u0101hauwera, and the rivers of Ngati Porou, and the rivers of Maniapoto that cannot be misconstrued or abused, as we suffered the last time when David Garrett was here and sought to make fun of the Waiwaia Accord when this legislation went through its first reading. I took a little pleasure in reminding him, after he made those foul remarks\u2014completely gratuitous\u2014about the Maniapoto and Tainui people, that it was not long after that that a k\u0113hua leapt out of the depths of that water and swept him from this House. So bear that in mind; these matters of Treaty and M\u0101ori spirituality are not to be trifled with. I must, myself, remember to do as I say, and not just talk about it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000672\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EOn the elements to do with Ngati Porou, we have two senior members of the Ngati Porou tribe\u2014at least two\u2014and a young man over there with his whakapapa from Ngati Porou. I think those of us from the north often thought that the tribe that learnt best how to deal with successive Governments was Ngati Porou, but when I look at the handsome settlement the Arawas have walked away with, they have not done too bad themselves. Unfortunately the truculent spirit that pervades the Ng\u0101puhi tends to keep them at the margin, but time will tell whether or not the missionary spirit of goodwill and peace will ever rise to the top of the Ng\u0101puhi political psyche. But that is for another night. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000673\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThis is an evening when small tribes such as Ng\u0101ti Whare, Ng\u0101ti Manawa, in obscure parts of Aotearoa, Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera with their long-vested interests in their river, and Maniapoto, one of our largest iwi, with that heroic and very rich heritage of resistance and providing, indeed, security for Te Kooti, in his time, and T\u0101whiao, are making progress on this particular part of their claim, the Waip\u0101 River. So I join with my colleagues in not only wishing the supporters well but reminding them, when we take it to the next stage, please do not look for us, your M\u0101ori MPs, to uncritically support calls that we own the water, without a substantial and robust basis for us not only to prosecute that claim but to secure the endorsement of our P\u0101keh\u0101 fellow citizens. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022 data-id=\u002278d4eebc89834cb8bf072d4b43a04233\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000674\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002278d4eebc89834cb8bf072d4b43a04233\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti): \u003C/span\u003ETautokotia atu ng\u0101 mihimihi ki a koe, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Ki te Minita m\u014D te M\u0101tauranga, te whanaunga e H\u0113kia, e mihi kau ana, t\u0113n\u0101 koe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000675\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E[I endorse the acknowledgments to you, greetings. To the Minister of Education, the relative H\u0113kia, I really acknowledge you, greetings.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI was glad that my learned colleague from the n\u014Dta did not say that Ngati Porou was obscure, because it is paradise, and I certainly do not bow from my vested interest. But in recognising that, the role that we play, I certainly want to mihi to the hard work of our pakeke and leaders of Ngati Porou, Apirana Mahuika and Co., for that hard period going through. And there have been tensions; there is no doubt about it. I know most other iwi do not have tensions and ructions, but we are honest people, we have tensions, but we get through them, and for that I certainly want to commend our m\u0101tua Api. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000677\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EE mihi kau ana i a koutou o Maniapoto. E roaroa atu te k\u014Drero m\u014D te wai, mai i te t\u012Bmata o ng\u0101 ker\u0113me m\u014D te wai. E rongo atu ki te k\u014Drero o te Shane nei m\u014D te \u0101hua o te wai. E mihi kau ana i a koutou. Kei a Nanaia te k\u014Drero m\u014D Maniapoto. I a koutou o Ng\u0101ti Whare e mihi kau ana, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E pai atu ki te kite atu i a koutou. E mokemoke noa iho e kore e konei a Bill, t\u0113r\u0101 tangata e whai kaha ia tau, ia marama m\u014D te take nei. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000678\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E[I welcome you of Maniapoto. The conversation about water since the claims for water began has been a lengthy one. I note the comments by Shane here in respect of the water. But I really acknowledge you collectively. Nanaia has the talk in regard to Maniapoto. So to you of Ng\u0101ti Whare, I acknowledge you, as well, greetings. It is wonderful to see you, but I am bereft at the same time that Bill, that man who worked hard each year and month for this matter, is no longer here. So greetings to you, collectively.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000679\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EIt is good to see that Ng\u0101ti Whare have the co-management of Whirinaki State Forest with the East Coast Bay of Plenty Conservation Board, and that they get 640 hectares at the 10 percent forestry allocation is certainly great. But I do want to mention Bill Bird as one of the present leaders, even though he has passed on, because he was tenacious, he was courageous, and he stood against all sorts of things, but sadly cancer took him away, and he never saw it. At times we mention people who are not here, but Bill was a real warrior and I want to recognise that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000680\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Manawa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E mihi atu i a koutou e t\u016B atu m\u014D te take nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000681\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E[Greetings Ng\u0101ti Manawa. I commend your stance on this matter.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000682\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThis deed was signed in December 2009, and the iwi were part of the central North Island forestry settlement negotiated by us a long period of time ago. I do want to recognise Ng\u0101ti Manawa\u2019s efforts, the place that they have taken in these claims, and how they have come forward on it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000683\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EFor Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera, Tom Gemmell was like Bill Bird, a real warrior. And Toro Waaka, Raymond, Joe, Megan, as the Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs mentioned, Charlie Hirini, and all those ones who are not here, including Auntie Sophie Keefe\u2014all of those great people took this down the roadway. It is a great day, and Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera are certainly working hard. They live on the banks of that great awa, M\u014Dhaka. And then we talk about water; it continually flows there and they have a high opinion on who owns it, what it is, and where it should be going. So I wish them all the best. In the sense of the redress, it is important and significant to them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000684\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EIn relation to the Ngati Porou Claims Settlement Bill, one thing you learn is being a Hauiti person you are Ngati Porou, and being Ngati Porou you are generally Hauiti. Those things that create tensions are there, but certainly we look forward to supporting the Minister to ensure that this has a speedy passageway to finality, and that we can all celebrate with these iwi that have turned up here tonight. T\u0113n\u0101 koe. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u00226a690983012c4e04bf43e72bf1d7f3d0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000685\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226a690983012c4e04bf43e72bf1d7f3d0\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E These are four very important bills. Dr Sharples has outlined the essence of the bills, but because of what I thought was an excellent contribution by Mr Jones, and again by Mr Horomia, I just want to say that each of the settlements we are talking about tonight raises an important issue concerning water. There are four rivers that are very much part and parcel of the settlements, the M\u014Dhaka, the Rangitaiki, the Waiap\u016B, and the Waip\u0101, and they are all slightly different versions of a genuine and sincere effort by the Crown to involve iwi in the co-governance of those particular resources. They are different models, but I believe they are going to be successful, and that they are adapted to the particular needs of the iwi and the particular needs of the rivers concerned\u2014more about that in the course of the Committee stage. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000686\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe M\u0101ori Affairs Committee has considered these bills, it has submitted its commentary on them to the House, and I want to thank Mr Henare and his team for the very thorough examination of the bills. I want to thank other Ministers and departments involved in the process. A wide variety of people from across the political spectrum have made some very, very important contributions to these settlements over the years. I particularly want to acknowledge Mr Horomia and Mr Jones, who always put partisanship to one side, and work with this Government on these issues, which is the way it should be. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000687\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI also, briefly, just to show how bipartisan I am, want to refer to the negotiators I have been working with: Paul Swain for the Crown with Ngati Porou, and Fran Wilde for the Crown with Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera. What is it about former Labour MPs that they make such very good Treaty negotiators? They are so pleasant to deal with when they have left this place. Some, of course, I do not think could ever change their spots, but others are such very nice people. In fact, it is an indication of how nice they are that\u2014again, to show how bipartisan I am; too bipartisan for my own good\u2014I have asked Mr Rick Barker, an excellent fellow, to work for me with Mr Swain in Taranaki. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000688\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fe91b97753fa4edfbcf0dc4b7771ebe6\u0022\u003EHon Shane Jones\u003C/span\u003E: Just a small matter of income.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000689\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002256db434e0af044e8817379f0bdef5243\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON\u003C/span\u003E: Oh no. It is the quality of the contribution they make. So there we have it. A lot of good work has been done on these bills. Let us get down to the detail in the Committee stage.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022 data-id=\u0022b180ab22702d41cfa3d9e048c7bbe13c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000690\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b180ab22702d41cfa3d9e048c7bbe13c\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour\u2014Hauraki-Waikato):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe. T\u0113nei e tautoko ana ng\u0101 mihi, ki ng\u0101 iwi i tae mai nei ki te whakarongo ki a m\u0101tau nei k\u014Drero. N\u014D reira ki a koutou katoa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000691\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[Thank you. I endorse the acknowledgments to the tribes who have arrived here to listen to our speeches. Hence, greetings to you all, greetings, greetings.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000692\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThis second reading opportunity is just a brief chance for members of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee to report back on some key aspects of what they heard during the select committee. Can I say first of all on my part that although I am not a current member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, we were hosted with absolute hospitality and respect. The role of the select committee I think is a difficult one, because there are great expectations placed on what the select committee should be doing at the point of hearings when we go out into your community. So can I say to Ng\u0101ti Manawa, Ng\u0101ti Whare, Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera, Ngati Porou, and Ng\u0101 Wai o Maniapoto koutou katoa, for your kind hospitality in hosting us the gratitude is ours. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000693\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ECan I just point to some comments for each of the settlements\u2014firstly, Ng\u0101ti Manawa and Ng\u0101ti Whare. Really, I think the things that stood out for me were issues around representation on the Rangitaiki River Forum. When we heard evidence from Ng\u0101ti Haku Patuheuheu and about their claims to the Rangitaiki, and considered issues around the Rangitaiki River Forum, we were confident that there were enabling provisions so that, at such a time when Ng\u0101ti Haku Patuheuheu wanted to be a part of the forum, the model was there to enable that to happen. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000694\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ESecondly, on the fisheries protocol as stated in the settlement, we were confident that this was an opportunity for both Ng\u0101ti Manawa and Ng\u0101ti Whare to have a proactive and ongoing role in the fisheries of their river, and we recommended no change. And, thirdly, on the substantive issue of their maunga, T\u0101whiuau\u2014and this is probably something to highlight to the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations\u2014the select committee members were quite mindful that if another Treaty settlement impinged on Ng\u0101ti Manawa\u2019s interest in T\u0101whiuau, then this was a significant matter that the Minister would have to pay attention to so that those rights were not infringed upon. I wanted to highlight those issues in the second reading, because they will be matters that may need to be considered if the Crown thinks it is going to have other settlements impinging upon its interest. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000695\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI want to go to Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera briefly. Probably two issues stood out there. Firstly, we did have representations to the select committee that contested the mandate of P\u0101hauwera. Having considered at length the aspects around the P\u0101hauwera mandate, the select committee was confident\u2014absolutely confident\u2014in the mandate that was expressed by P\u0101hauwera and their ability to get to the point of settlement, and we did not consider any substantive change to the legislation on this front. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000696\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThis is an important question, I should mention, for all Treaty settlements, because often claimants and cross-claimants come to the select committee table thinking that we can change issues around this substantially. It is very difficult to do so. I want to commend Te Ururoa Flavell, who chaired the committee for the hearing of this bill, and I think he managed the process quite well, and to a positive outcome. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000697\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThe definition of \u201CNg\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera\u201D, and the interests of the Ng\u0101i Tahu hap\u016B, was one of those issues where we really found ourselves conflicted, and the same thing arose in the Ngati Porou settlement. Members of the select committee did not think it was beholden upon us to adjudicate over whakapapa within iwi. So on that basis, although we understand and heard the full representations of Ng\u0101i Tahu hap\u016B, we accept that for the purposes of this settlement the definition of \u201CNg\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera\u201D in the bill stands. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000698\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI want to move to a substantive lot of hearings that we had on the Ngati Porou Claims Settlement Bill. I want to pay tribute to those who got this far, having heard the number of cross-claimants who came to the hearings. You think you have got problems; come to my place. We have got all sorts of things happening back home. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EBut can I say that one of the things that stood out in the Ngati Porou claim settlement hearings at the select committee level was that there was this high sense of urgency from many claimants that they did not have the ability to have their historical grievances aired. There is an innovation in this particular settlement around an airing-of-grievances process that I understand is being proposed. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000700\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EAgain, one of the issues that really stood out substantially in this particular settlement is that people need the opportunity to have their histories told and captured in some shape and form, so that they are on the historical record. Again, we were not in a position\u2014and we do not feel as select committee members that we should have been in the position\u2014to adjudicate over whakapapa. That is solely for Ngati Porou to determine. But the process, in itself, if there is the opportunity through the airing-of-grievances part of this particular settlement that histories can be heard, told, and captured, should be considered as a positive part of giving a complete picture. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000701\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI certainly want to pay tribute to Api Mahuika, who actually personally bore the brunt of a lot of criticisms at the select committee table. I can say from some personal reflection that the position he holds is not an easy one. It is thankless, and you bear a lot of responsibility with little gratitude afterwards. But can I say that the dignity with which the claim was put to the select committee had a strong bearing on my view that this is the best opportunity for Ngati Porou going forward and for the generations to come. What stood out even more was that there was a firm focus on this being an opportunity for the next generation to move forward. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000702\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EFinally, I come back to my home town in a sense, and that is Ng\u0101 Wai o Maniapoto. I want to, in this second reading, highlight two particular aspects\u2014maybe three. First is the interests of Raukawa in Wharep\u016Bhunga. They came to the select committee with a representation that the select committee should change or broaden the reach of Raukawa in terms of the Wharep\u016Bhunga. The select committee took that on board but did not think that any change to the legislation was necessary. However, I would urge the Minister to seek some confirmation from the Office of Treaty Settlements that the memorandum of understanding that has been reached between Raukawa and Maniapoto will be confirmed before the third reading, because this will be a positive part of ensuring that both Raukawa and Maniapoto interests in the Waip\u0101 will be clearly stated. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000703\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ESecond is the issue of the clean-up fund being added to the Waikato River Authority. It is not the outcome that Maniapoto was seeking, but is an opportunity to have issues of clean-up addressed. But the real issue there will be Waikato and Maniapoto assuring themselves that the ongoing aspects of clean-up of the upper river catchment are a matter yet to be negotiated with the Crown, and should be a matter supported by Waikato in the overall interests of having a clean Waip\u0101, so that we get a clean Waikato River. In terms of the Lower Waip\u0101 catchment, I am confident that with a bit of common sense and a bit of time both Waikato and Maniapoto will sort out its interests and how to manage aspects in the Lower Waip\u0101 catchment. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000704\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EOverall, this feels like a rushed process, but it is only the second readings. I am confident that in the third reading of the legislation members will be able to focus on those settlements that they want to highlight, in terms of the opportunities they provide for the people going forward. N\u014D reira, ki a koutou katoa, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022 data-id=\u00226a6ac8b566bb4a0690d59b4350c1c099\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000705\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226a6ac8b566bb4a0690d59b4350c1c099\u0022\u003ETE URUROA FLAVELL (M\u0101ori Party\u2014Waiariki):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson. Kia ora an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa. Me whakar\u0101popoto i taku k\u014Drero i te mea kua oti k\u0113 i a au te k\u014Drero m\u014D t\u0113tahi w\u0101hanga. \u0112ngari, kua oti k\u0113 te w\u0101hi ki te Minita. Ko te w\u0101hi ki a au ko te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori me te k\u012B atu, ka tautoko ake i t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 pire kei p\u014Dh\u0113h\u0113 koutou, k\u0101re te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori i te tautoko i te karanga. \u0100, \u0113ngari paku k\u014Drero. Tuatahi hai whaiwhai haere i te \u0101huatanga o te k\u014Drero a te H\u014Dnore Parekura Horomia, e tangi ana te ng\u0101kau m\u014D te Bill Bird r\u0101, t\u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata i kaha ki te kawe i t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 take ki mua i te aroaro o ng\u0101 momo Minita. K\u0101o. Ki mua i te aroaro o ng\u0101 Minita i ng\u0101 tau kua hipa ake. E tangi ana te ng\u0101kau ki a ia, otir\u0101, ki a r\u0101tau. T\u0113r\u0101 M\u0101ori, k\u0101tahi te tangata m\u0101ia ko t\u0113r\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000706\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EMe wero tonu i te H\u014Dnore Shane Jones. E k\u012B, e k\u012B? He w\u0101hi obscure a Minginui, he w\u0101hi obscure a Murupara. Come on. Ng\u0101ti Manawa, Ng\u0101ti Whare m\u0101ku t\u0113n\u0101 k\u014Drero i whakatika. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000707\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EE tika ana te k\u014Drero a w\u0113tahi atu p\u0113r\u0101 i a Nanaia Mahuta, \u0113, ko \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 iwi ka titiro mai ki te K\u0101wanatanga, ki te komiti wh\u0101iti, te select committee, ki te k\u012B mai m\u0101 koutou, m\u0101 te K\u0101wanatanga, m\u0101 te Karauna r\u0101nei e whakatikatika ng\u0101 k\u014Drero \u0101-whakapapa. Ko t\u0101ku ko te k\u012B atu e k\u0101o, m\u0101 ng\u0101 iwi t\u0113r\u0101 e whakatika, kaua m\u0101 te Whare P\u0101remata. Ko \u0113tahi ka k\u012B, ka noho me k\u012B, tata nei, whanaunga nei \u0113ngari, kei te k\u012B atu ki te K\u0101wanatanga, n\u014D m\u0101tau t\u0113nei whenua, me k\u014Drero ki a m\u0101tau m\u014D te whakahoki mai i w\u0101 m\u0101tau whenua. E k\u0101o, m\u0101 ng\u0101 iwi an\u014D r\u0101 t\u0113r\u0101 take e k\u014Drero. N\u014D reira, he nui ng\u0101 k\u014Drero i puta hei whaiwhai haere i tana k\u014Drero. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000708\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EN\u014D m\u0101tau te waimarie kia tae atu ki a koutou Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera ki t\u0101 koutou marae ka mutu, ki Tikitiki. Ahakoa i wepua au e w\u0113tahi \u0113ngari, he pai tonu te noho ki waenganui i \u0113r\u0101 momo take, he akoranga nui ki a au, \u0101-tiamana nei. Engari, n\u014Dku te waimarie kia tae atu ki reira ki waenganui i a koutou. I te p\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D ki a koutou o Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto, i t\u0101 m\u0101tau taenga atu ki t\u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 whare, te Tokanganui-a-Noho. Ka mutu, i roto i te rohe o Te Waiariki, ko Ng\u0101ti Whare me Ng\u0101ti Manawa, e noho tata nei n\u0101 runga i te \u0101huatanga o te ara whanaunga, ar\u0101, ko Te Wharep\u0101kau r\u0101ua Tangiharuru. Ko koutou an\u014D koutou. N\u014D reira, ko t\u0101ku noa ake he k\u012B atu, ka pai, ka pai. Aki\u0101kina, aki\u0101kina ng\u0101 pire nei kia eke ki te taumata e tika ana. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000709\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira k\u0101ti, koinei te k\u014Drero a te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Kua tata eke, kua tata eke. Kia hoki mai ki te w\u0101hanga whakamutunga, ka \u0101hua whakat\u014Droangia pea ng\u0101 k\u014Drero m\u0101 te rua tekau meneti. Hoi an\u014D, t\u0113r\u0101 k\u014Drero t\u0113r\u0101. Kia ora t\u0101tau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000710\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker Robertson, and greetings once again to us all. I will shorten my address, as I have already spoken at length about a part of the legislation. The part relating to the Minister has been covered already, so my part is to talk about the M\u0101ori Party, and say that we endorse this legislation, in case you wonder whether the M\u0101ori Party supports it, although the call is a short one. In the first instance, and to follow up the tenor of the sentiments expressed by the Hon Parekura Horomia, the heart mourns the passing of Bill Bird, a man who worked hard to bring this legislation before the various kinds of Ministers; not true\u2014Ministers in past years. The heart weeps for him, and indeed for them. That M\u0101ori, what a courageous one he was. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000711\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EI continue to challenge the Hon Shane Jones when he asserts that Minginui and Murupara are obscure places. Come on! How true is that? Get it right. Ng\u0101ti Manawa and Ng\u0101ti Whare, I will correct that assertion. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000712\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003ESome of the statements by other speakers are absolutely correct, such as those of the Hon Nanaia Mahuta. Some tribes are looking at the Government, at the select committee process, and saying: leave it up to the Government or the Crown to rectify any issues about genealogy. I say no\u2014tribes are responsible for that, and not the House of Parliament. Some very close relatives are saying to the Government: this land is ours, talk to us about giving it back. Not so, that sort of issue is for the tribes to deal to. So a lot of talk has emerged to follow up her assertion. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000713\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EIt was our good fortune getting to you, Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera, to your marae, and then moving on to Tikitiki. Even though I might have taken a bit of a whipping from some there, it was still good to be amongst you in those kinds of issues, and a huge learning curve for me as chairman. But I still considered myself lucky to be there amongst you. It was like that with you, Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto, when we arrived at Tokanganui-a-Noho, that ancestral house of all ancestral houses. So to the region of Te Waiariki, to Ng\u0101ti Whare and Ng\u0101ti Manawa, who are closely related through Te Wharep\u0101kau and Tangiharuru. You are really one and the same. So I simply want to say: well done, great. Move and urge these bills along to a level most fitting for them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000714\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003EEnough for now. Congratulations and well done from the M\u0101ori Party. It is almost there, nearly. When we come back for the final part we may extend our address by 20 minutes. Who knows what will happen. Congratulations to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022 data-id=\u00229d6162e049d1405492bbd07062dd5d65\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000715\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229d6162e049d1405492bbd07062dd5d65\u0022\u003EBRENDAN HORAN (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E I would like to acknowledge Ngati Porou in the House. After all, Sir Apirana Ngata would, I imagine, be very, very proud. With each settlement we come together and we cast away that which has divided us, and in settlement we embrace that which unites us\u2014our land, our water, our people, our wairua. With each settlement we grow together as a country, as a nation, and as New Zealanders we all have a vested interest in the success of these bills. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000716\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003ENow, as Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto, I must also declare an interest. I am one of that sprawling brood of Ormsbys, and I am bursting with joy that the sacred water of my iwi is to be protected and nurtured, to be cleaned, to honour the wairua. Recognising and addressing the grievances of all before us tonight is paramount. It has taken New Zealand many years to reach this point. Again, I acknowledge all of you\u2014all of us\u2014who are here today, because we represent so much more. Together, we represent the many who have gone before us, the many who cannot be here today. I look forward to working at the Committee stage to ensure that the full intent of these settlements is achieved. As it has taken so long to get to this point, and as there is yet a small way to go, I do not wish to take more of this time, but I endorse on behalf of New Zealand First the progress of these bills in this Whare. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000717\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EBills read a second time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000718\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022bf45c7e6110643f49e485de1721a2baf\u0022\u003EStatutes Amendment Bill (No 2)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000719\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00220a1237fe2c8a4e20ba87a6e46e6e3671\u0022\u003EProcedure\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u0022506a600454bb4129a680dfeb3823fdd1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000720\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022506a600454bb4129a680dfeb3823fdd1\u0022\u003EHon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour\u2014Hutt South):\u003C/span\u003E I seek the leave of the House for the second reading, Committee stage, and third reading of the Statutes Amendment Bill (No 2) to be taken as one question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000721\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225a529f0bbc9842829e41cae27078fc7d\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson)\u003C/span\u003E: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u002285ad7f3b1e33496bbfe67aab0712f937\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000722\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002285ad7f3b1e33496bbfe67aab0712f937\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I am trying to assist the House. I do not think it has been called as it needs to be for the Committee stage and the third reading to be part of the same debate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u00224f1de24bf69149e0b4c49ee04ea92dbe\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000723\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224f1de24bf69149e0b4c49ee04ea92dbe\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E I concur with that. The Hon Trevor Mallard sought leave of the House for those two debates to be taken as one.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000724\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002272c7e6d71a1c4a6c90f6d16224365116\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Three debates.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000725\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228371ac7e7d894c79be8ac7afd3de0ca7\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE\u003C/span\u003E: Three debates. So it is the second reading, the Committee stage, and the third reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022 data-id=\u002207c4413eb926420a84b0b5264a9b97ff\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000726\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002207c4413eb926420a84b0b5264a9b97ff\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson)\u003C/span\u003E: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000727\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220810c348e9064cadb94838444349ae6b\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: We have already agreed to that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000728\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002292c77ec8c7ad4744850cc3cba1d91152\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson)\u003C/span\u003E: We can dispense with the Committee stage by leave of the House? We can do that by leave of the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000729\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ef8e9a1949d0415cb9e9d644de89d258\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: We\u2019ve already done it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000730\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00229d3e8821dbff401a9d00cd4890f23a8f\u0022\u003ESecond Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000731\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002234f06176e57b45239bcf208819c1d684\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022 data-id=\u0022b401637d446b4e53abc671188c971d01\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000732\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b401637d446b4e53abc671188c971d01\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS (Associate Minister of Justice):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Statutes Amendment Bill (No 2) be now read a second time and a third time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022 data-id=\u0022f06a65ceffee4658a8a27460bad7a79e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000733\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f06a65ceffee4658a8a27460bad7a79e\u0022\u003ECHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I confirm that the Labour Party supports the passage of the Statutes Amendment Bill (No 2) in the manner that has been agreed to by the House. I particularly want to record that this bill has received exhaustive scrutiny by the Government Administration Committee. It has made several amendments, which I think improve the bill and make sure that it is as a Statutes Amendment Bill should be\u2014uncontroversial and dealing with matters that are technical. So on that basis the Labour Opposition will support the motion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u002233534c0495e347afb47cf9f1799472d1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000734\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002233534c0495e347afb47cf9f1799472d1\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Charles Chauvel is quite correct. An exhaustive amount of scrutiny goes on with these bills. In fact, the bill would not be in the House if all parties did not agree to all the provisions in these bills. But this bill affects 20 different bills in this case. So I would seek leave that at the conclusion of the third reading debate the bill is split into its appropriate bills as would have normally been the case should we have taken a more exhaustive amount of the House\u2019s time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022 data-id=\u002290f80f2a117a47e5bf332485aff79638\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000735\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002290f80f2a117a47e5bf332485aff79638\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson)\u003C/span\u003E: Is there any objection to that course of action being taken? There is none.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000736\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002223980ce28c0c4915b5a4f7127e39bb15\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Further leave, Mr Speaker, that the bill be read by the Clerk as a Statutes Amendment Bill rather than having to read out all those different third readings.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000737\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c6478c70fe4a47e696bdfd551b347920\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that that be agreed to. It is agreed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000738\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002263b68d250a084965bbbd812ef63229ec\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: The question is?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000739\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f9e91915bce541e1bc89f5f9660b4492\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (H V Ross Robertson)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion will say aye, to the contrary no, the ayes have it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000740\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003EStatutes Amendment Bill (No 2) read a second time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000741\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002270fa4cbd-9380-4916-9f2a-78da059d220e\u0022\u003E20 bills formerly part of the Statutes Amendment Bill (No 2) read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000742\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c6877b8d7e9744209da6e0eea9818dac\u0022\u003EStatutes Amendment Bill (No 3)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000743\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002210823e55ecd44eafa1d8b72135e15926\u0022\u003EFirst Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022 data-id=\u002240a13c1a3b1b4c2daf01c087028a3c23\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000744\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002240a13c1a3b1b4c2daf01c087028a3c23\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS (Associate Minister of Justice):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Statutes Amendment Bill (No 3) be now read a first time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022 data-id=\u00226da4e630fd2c4132ad2edcadfdef82ed\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000745\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226da4e630fd2c4132ad2edcadfdef82ed\u0022\u003ECHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I am sorry. I just want to point out that the Statutes Amendment Bill (No 3) has been the subject of exhaustive consultation between the parties, and on that basis the Labour Party is supporting the motion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000746\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EBill read a first time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000747\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EBill referred to the Government Administration Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2012021659c9d07e30504d818d2e122a39e4354c000748\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 10 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"