"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a503c1f7ea07440ba38bef6ddef1a0f4\u0022\u003EThursday, 26 July 2012\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228761b723be2b4a788caaae67d78e08eb\u0022\u003EThursday, 26 July 2012\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000002\u0022\u003EMr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000004\u0022\u003EKarakia.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f2f73ca53e3e4e23a871d08e0fcb9df7\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022057744ec5cbc479f879d02583342bf73\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u0022b13cb08ac4cc41129d209fa77ef8a976\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b13cb08ac4cc41129d209fa77ef8a976\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Leader of the House: In the absence of both the Leader of the House and the Deputy Leader of the House, I am required to read this statement to the House. I do apologise. I have not had time to memorise it. When the House resumes on Tuesday, 31 July\u2014[Interruption] never call me petulant\u2014the Government will look to progress the Committee stage of the Biosecurity Law Reform Bill, the Juries (Jury Service and Protection of Particulars of Jury List Information) Amendment Bill, the Commerce Commission (International Co-operation, and Fees) Bill, the Sentencing (Aggravating Factors) Amendment Bill, and the Appropriation (2012/13 Estimates) Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e1f5294f58d442b48a84e9c10748f729\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I call the honourable shadow Leader of the House, who will not need to read it at all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u0022faf98c99b1764633a99dbf500ce9e6ba\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022faf98c99b1764633a99dbf500ce9e6ba\u0022\u003EHon TREVOR MALLARD (Labour\u2014Hutt South):\u003C/span\u003E In the absence of my friend and colleague Russel Norman, I will not read a response.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022dc09dc624bbd402ab7d7edc262152873\u0022\u003EQuestions for Oral Answer\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228bf3df7fd24640fdaa96f5d17759403b\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002266beab74bf62437e82836549646274f5\u0022\u003EInfrastructure Investment Programme\u2014Progress\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022 data-id=\u0022f70ecc15af0248f68b6c7f5f5a19de26\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f70ecc15af0248f68b6c7f5f5a19de26\u0022\u003EDr CAM CALDER (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: What progress is the Government making with its multi-billion dollar infrastructure programme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022 data-id=\u00227aa50652b9f2421cbe07d1386b8610ef\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227aa50652b9f2421cbe07d1386b8610ef\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E Our progress on infrastructure is good. We have invested $5 billion in infrastructure such as schools, broadband, and hospitals over the last four Budgets, and billions more upgrading our State highway networks and the national grid. The first road of national significance project, Victoria Park Tunnel, has been completed and there is good progress on the rest. We have upgraded on average over 16,000 State houses a year since 2009, and are on track to insulate every State house built before 1978 by the end of the year. Of course, we have put aside $5.5 billion to help fund the rebuild of Christchurch infrastructure, which is getting under way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002231d919b868f64a3b924325c510fb1799\u0022\u003EDr Cam Calder\u003C/span\u003E: What steps has the Government taken to improve the quality of its infrastructure investment?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a30e0cbcebd140be93b9e90eca44e174\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: Well, that is a good question, because just having more infrastructure is one aspect of it, but having high-quality infrastructure is, in the long run, more important. We have improved the way the Government makes its own plans and the way it gets consents and finances its infrastructure through the reform of the Resource Management Act, setting up the National Infrastructure Unit, and setting up the Environmental Protection Authority. This has introduced more discipline into the Government process. Last year we issued the second National Infrastructure Plan, which shows that our infrastructure is generally improving, but it does highlight those areas where we need to do a better job. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228cf0fb6b-0b8f-4327-983d-73e1166c220e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002209dec6b6c9d44a92835a7b2dd7bc6276\u0022\u003EDr Cam Calder\u003C/span\u003E: How will the Government fund its large infrastructure investment?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a811746b8fac4c9a8ccffde4a01ca730\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: The planned investment over the next 4 years is large, at around $17 billion. This will be paid for through a mixture of funding sources. Some of it, of course, will come from petrol tax and road-user charges on the roads, some will come from depreciation, and a considerable amount will come from direct funding from the Government. The direct funding from the Government will be channelled through the Future Investment Fund, which was set up to take the proceeds of the partial share sales and invest those in future publicly owned infrastructure. Treasury is forecasting sale proceeds of $5 billion to $7 billion over the next 3 to 5 years, and this will assist with a $17 billion infrastructure investment programme. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e2c77cecb21a408298112852ae166c09\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with the 52 percent of business leaders in the New Zealand Herald\u2019s \u201CMood of the Boardroom\u201D survey that other than returning to surplus, the Government has no adequate plan to encourage the economic growth and jobs needed to stop so many young New Zealanders moving to Australia?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002291c1b9a215674f7cb545af0a7a00f335\u0022\u003EHon Steven Joyce\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, so not enough plans today? So we have changed from too many plans again. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bda07f378c8f437d908cdfd24c00549a\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: No, I do not, and as my colleague Steven Joyce has pointed out, the Labour Party cannot decide\u2014on some days there are too many plans, and on the other days there is no plan. We have outlined the programme, outlined the plan, including to the \u201CMood of the Boardroom\u201D session this morning. I can tell the member that it has pretty broad support among the business community. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d1bda5f32187493d9dd5cb08d2efa56c\u0022\u003EOverseas Investment Rules\u20142010 Sale of Crafar Farms to Natural Dairy\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229dc203b3-21b0-4d4a-a530-746504e05f20\u0022 data-id=\u0022dadcd54fb997436e8531657dbcd4215f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229dc203b3-21b0-4d4a-a530-746504e05f20\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022dadcd54fb997436e8531657dbcd4215f\u0022\u003ERICHARD PROSSER (NZ First)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Land Information: Can the public have confidence that the Overseas Investment Office is taking prompt action in relation to all breaches of the Overseas Investment Act 2005; if so, how?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u00222173bc33424e427b8e6035084d143bf4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222173bc33424e427b8e6035084d143bf4\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Acting Minister for Land Information):\u003C/span\u003E Yes. The Overseas Investment Office promptly investigates all suspected breaches of the Overseas Investment Act 2005. I have some good news for that honourable member: in the period 1 July 2011 to 30 June 2012, 100 percent\u2014100 percent\u2014of public alerts about potential breaches were assessed for possible investigation within 10 working days. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229dc203b3-21b0-4d4a-a530-746504e05f20\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a1c7f056240542e08a7fe5dbc138f749\u0022\u003ERichard Prosser\u003C/span\u003E: Given that answer, will he tell the House what action the Overseas Investment Office has taken in respect of the four Crafar farms sold to an overseas investor without consent; or, alternatively, will he explain why no action has been taken?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220cc67b7ebe1c4db8827f35d43921e60d\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON\u003C/span\u003E: I do not have particular information about particular applications or particular concerns to hand. If the member wants an answer to a particular question, I suggest he either ask it as the primary question or put it down as a written question to the Minister. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229dc203b3-21b0-4d4a-a530-746504e05f20\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e56b3902c65e45c9a8f7d446a022653e\u0022\u003ERichard Prosser\u003C/span\u003E: How can the public have confidence in the Overseas Investment Office when UBNZ Assets Holdings, a company associated with May Wang, who failed a good-character test, was able to purchase four of the Crafar farms without permission and get away with it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cb28c0b7718c4d92b11c65b01c8476a4\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON\u003C/span\u003E: The same principle applies: if the member wants direct answers to specific questions, he should either ask them as a primary question or put them down as a written question. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b431e862a26a4fcaa02aa828662dd1a8\u0022\u003EBrendan Horan\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Did we not determine a number of weeks ago that if a Minister did not know the answer, the Minister should simply say that they do not know the answer?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a4b52fffb485423d8f499135ae41e4e4\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I think the Minister basically said that, but he was a little more helpful in suggesting that maybe if members want detailed information in answers, they need to make it clear in the primary question what they are asking. I do not think the Minister was being unhelpful.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228d427e474aee49e3b92b0ef7263d3a53\u0022\u003ENew Zealand - Australia Migration\u201418 to 30 Age Range\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u00222ee85401c20c4cf3a87b6fa01d1d28c8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222ee85401c20c4cf3a87b6fa01d1d28c8\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: Does he stand by his statement regarding migration to Australia \u201CWhat\u2019s the point of standing in the airport crying about it?\u201D; if so, how many of the 53,763 people that migrated to Australia in the year to June 2012 are from 18 to 30 years of age in number and percentage terms?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022 data-id=\u0022725a9b52fe0d44b8815ba593e7872f20\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022725a9b52fe0d44b8815ba593e7872f20\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E Yes; and, as I said in the rest of that statement, we have just got to compete. New Zealand should show the aspiration and confidence that it can compete with a larger, more wealthy economy for our young people\u2019s talent, instead of just worrying about it. So 21,585 people aged 18 to 30 migrated to Australia in the year to June 2012\u2014about 40 percent of the total. I note that in the 9 years to June 2008, when economic conditions were more benign, 305,800 New Zealanders left for Australia, and around 36 percent of them were aged 18 to 30.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022245f12895bc34671804d8900f10603b2\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with the findings of the New Zealand Herald \u201CMood of the Boardroom\u201D survey, which found that out of eight critical issues his Government has performed worst on stemming the outward flow of Kiwis?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dd6e7e95dc444b64bf7ad57b3c2ad9f9\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: No, and as I suggested to the large group of business leaders in the room, it is up to them to compete for that talent by showing the leadership and the opportunities to our young New Zealanders. If they are waiting around for someone to do that on their behalf, then they can rely on this Government to create positive conditions, but it is in the workplaces of New Zealand that young people will see the opportunities that attract them. It is time we showed the confidence that we can compete with Australia. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022378340a28d81428bbca2bb703ca1e102\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Does he think it is sustainable to lose 21,000 people per annum to Australia\u2014the equivalent of the entire student body of Otago or Victoria universities?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221db54ea4468940cc8a703690b021356b\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: I do not think that is going to continue, because the relative economic performance of New Zealand and Australia is starting to close the gap. If we persist with the Government\u2019s broad-based economic programme to create jobs and opportunities, and fix problems like housing affordability, then we will be able to compete with Australia for our young talent. That is better than telling our young people that the Government is going to waste more of their money, borrow more, and not support the businesses that provide their jobs\u2014which is Labour\u2019s policy. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d25c7029b0484071ad396b05575c76ff\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: When he said yesterday that migration rates are correlated to growth rates, does the fact that New Zealand experienced the highest number ever of people migrating to Australia in a 12-month period signify that he has failed in his goal of growing the New Zealand economy, and instead is growing the Australian economy by sending 20,000 young New Zealanders there a year?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222f3419e995f74a749f8190619912aa76\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: No, what it signifies is that Australia has had a once-in-a-100-year increase in its income because of its coal and iron-ore boom. That gave Australia higher growth rates\u2014for a short time\u2014than New Zealand\u2019s. We would expect that, as our own programme starts to have a positive impact on the New Zealand economy, those flows will change.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a8d26ade914a46ad90ea52296c613ed2\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Given that young people are leaving in droves to Australia, what plans does he have to ensure the long-term sustainability of superannuation, given the changing age profile, particularly in light of the fact that 88 percent of the chief executive officers in the \u201CMood of the Boardroom\u201D survey said that National is completely on the wrong side and out to lunch on the issue of raising the age of eligibility for superannuation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002298ee57efd039405e9abadd5aee5be03e\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: The most important thing for New Zealand superannuation is a thriving economy. If we do not have a thriving economy, then in the future superannuitants will not have adequate superannuation. That is why we are focusing on encouraging businesses to invest and employ. We are focusing on using our natural resources, through oil and gas exploration and mining, and on supporting our primary industries, so they can be more competitive on the global stage\u2014all of which are policies that the Opposition oppose. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228b96f80ee01e4eb88b2a8c0b781a858a\u0022\u003EChild Poverty\u2014Effect on M\u0101ori Children\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022 data-id=\u0022671de817ab034947a27be758a4c3bc9e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022671de817ab034947a27be758a4c3bc9e\u0022\u003EMETIRIA TUREI (Co-Leader\u2014Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs: Ka whakaae a ia ki t\u0101 te Kaik\u014Dmihana Whanaungata \u0101-Iwi, a Joris De Bres, i k\u012B r\u0101, \u201CMany M\u0101ori children are being denied their basic human rights because of poverty and inadequate public services\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E[Does he agree with Race Relations Commissioner Joris De Bres that \u201CMany M\u0101ori children are being denied their basic human rights because of poverty and inadequate public services\u201D?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022 data-id=\u002208d1854c78b742fa85024aac71e5d5c9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002208d1854c78b742fa85024aac71e5d5c9\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES (Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe kai te Kaiwhakaw\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koe Metiria i p\u0101tai mai i t\u0113n\u0101 p\u0101tai, he p\u0101tai nui t\u0113nei te p\u014Dharatanga e p\u0101 ana ki \u0101 t\u0101tau iwi. Anei r\u0101 t\u0101ku\u2014ahakoa ko wai te tangata, he pakeke, he tamaiti r\u0101nei, mehemea ka noho p\u014Dhara, ka noho ia i te kore mana.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker, and to you, Metiria, who asked that question, which is an important one about this poverty that affects our people. This poverty relating to our people is a big one. My view on it is that it does not matter who the person is, an adult or a child, when one is impoverished, one loses status.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022044530a3c1b0463987da51c9699b6fa0\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. In the translation\u2014and I think, in fact, directly\u2014the Minister breached Standing Orders in the way that he addressed a member of the House. I think it is important, even when one is speaking in M\u0101ori, that the same standards apply.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e1966b3dc42c40da91d26d45fe13c73e\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I hear what the member is saying, but I do not believe that it was intentionally unfair or unkind. I think the member was actually acknowledging a fellow colleague in a warm way, and I would not like to interfere in that, although I accept the member\u2019s point that we should refer to all members by their full names. But on this occasion I would not like to interfere, because I do not think the member involved took offence, anyway, at being referred to in that manner.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d8a573d9b727421cb21737da5895aa53\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Lockwood.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223a9c568d66ef43ef8eb2ca8242a0e237\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister consider it acceptable that one-third of all M\u0101ori children live in poverty, and that the Government has failed to address inequality, thereby condemning these M\u0101ori children to a life of sickness, hardship, and underachievement?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226590b819c7434d5692793f0b52edf219\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: \u0100, e maha atu ng\u0101 tamariki e noho p\u014Dhara ana. K\u0101re au e tautoko ana ki t\u0113n\u0101. N\u0101 reira n\u0101 t\u0113n\u0101, n\u0101 te tono o te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori kua whakat\u016Bria e te K\u0101wanatanga t\u0113tahi komiti, kia titiro ki \u0113nei mea te p\u014Dharatanga kei roto i te iwi. Ko te Prime Minister Tuarua te heamana, \u0101, ko Tariana Turia te heamana tuarua. Atu ki t\u0113n\u0101, i raro i taku mahi m\u014D Te Puni K\u014Dkiri, me te mahi o Wh\u0101nau Ora, he maha ng\u0101 \u016Bmanga kua whakat\u016Bria e m\u0101tau, kia whakam\u0101m\u0101 ai te p\u014Dharatanga kei roto i t\u014D t\u0101tau iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[There are many children living in poverty, and I do not agree with that. Because of that and the request by the M\u0101ori Party, Government established a committee to look at these things that affect poverty in our people. The Deputy Prime Minister is the chair and Tariana Turia is the deputy chair. Beyond that and through my work with Te Puni K\u014Dkiri and the role of Wh\u0101nau Ora, many enterprises have been established to ease poverty amongst our people.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e49af3bc036e48fb9c0dcb2850a4ddc6\u0022\u003EHon Nanaia Mahuta\u003C/span\u003E: He aha te whakatau o te Minita kia taea ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau M\u0101ori me \u0101 r\u0101tau tamariki he p\u016Btea oranga in\u0101, e noho ana t\u0113tahi hautoru M\u0101ori i te p\u014Dhara me te rawakore, me te tokomaha o ng\u0101 tamariki e haumaru ana i te matua kotahi? He aha ng\u0101 kaupapa pai m\u014D \u0113nei tamariki ki ng\u0101 kura auraki?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[What decision has the Minister come to that will enable M\u0101ori families and their children to receive a health-based fund, given that one-third of M\u0101ori are poor and destitute, where a sole parent looks after many children? What positive schemes are there for these children in mainstream schools?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002279b50651b0104f3681c22bf046ba0418\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: He maha ng\u0101 \u016Bmanga kua whakat\u016Bria e m\u0101tau i roto i te taha m\u014D te m\u0101tauranga kei roto i ng\u0101 kura, i roto i ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau e noho p\u014Dhara kei roto i ng\u0101 k\u0101inga. N\u0101ku i whakat\u016B e 70 ng\u0101 kaimahi e mahi ana kei roto i ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau, ng\u0101 h\u0101pori. M\u0101 r\u0101tau e mahi ana, i te 600 wh\u0101nau ki te tautoko i a r\u0101tau i roto i t\u014D r\u0101tau p\u014Dharatanga, me \u0101 m\u0101tau mahi M\u0101ra Kai. Kua tukuna atu ki te iwi, e 300 m\u0101ra kai kua tukuna atu ki te iwi, me \u0113r\u0101 atu \u0101huatanga. E pai ana te p\u0101tai, koin\u0101 t\u0101 m\u0101tau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[We have established several enterprises in terms of education in schools and in families living in poverty. I have established 70 positions for people to work within families and communities. They worked alongside 600 families to support them through their state of impoverishment. We have our M\u0101ra Kai initiative\u2014we granted 300 vegetable gardens to tribes\u2014and other schemes. It is a good question, and that is our position on it.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220329939a689a41459149753efefccbc8\u0022\u003EHon Nanaia Mahuta\u003C/span\u003E: He take wero t\u0113nei, Mr Speaker. Ko te tino ngako o taku p\u0101tai e p\u0101 ana ki ng\u0101 kaupapa kei roto i ng\u0101 kura auraki, m\u014D \u0113nei tamariki p\u014Dhara, \u0113nei tamariki rawakore.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The gist of my question related to initiatives in mainstream schools for children living in poverty.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022394fd05abbe94d249d29240d6d81257b\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member\u2019s question was somewhat longer than that, and being a supplementary question, the Minister is not required to answer just the last part of the question. Even though the question may have been in Te Reo, the same rules apply to the answering of the question. The question covered more than just that issue.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022473ae5d2038c4e9a8f76898a734a5a7a\u0022\u003EHon Nanaia Mahuta\u003C/span\u003E: Ka p\u0101tai atu ki te Whare kia whakaw\u0101tea te w\u0101hanga m\u0101ku kia tuku te p\u0101tai an\u014D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[I seek leave of the House for me to ask my question once more.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002289d23d12a64842078377a1b477027e13\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for the member to ask her question again. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is no objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002252cfdd3ea69743dbbb8d8795048b4fb6\u0022\u003EHon Nanaia Mahuta\u003C/span\u003E: T\u0113n\u0101 koutou. He aha te whakatau o te Minita m\u014D \u0113nei tamariki p\u014Dhara, \u0113nei tamariki rawakore? He aha ng\u0101 tino kaupapa i roto i ng\u0101 kura auraki hei awhiawhi i \u0113nei tamariki e k\u014Drerotia ake nei?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[Thank you collectively. What consideration has he made for these impoverished and destitute children? What are the main programmes in mainstream schools to assist these children referred to here?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022693f0303e493435e97a53e612e49406b\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: N\u0101 m\u0101tau i whakat\u016Bria \u0113tahi h\u014Dtaka m\u014D te p\u0101nui pukapuka m\u014D ng\u0101 mea iti kei roto i ng\u0101 kura decile 1, 2, and 3 katoa o te motu. N\u0101 m\u014D te p\u014Dharatanga, m\u014D te kai, kua tukuna atu t\u0113tahi p\u016Btea ki \u0113nei wh\u0101nau kia whakat\u016B m\u0101ra kai. Atu ki t\u0113n\u0101 ar\u0101 ng\u0101 kaimahi e mahi ana i roto, i waenganui a r\u0101tau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[We established reading programmes for the little ones in all decile 1, 2, and 3 schools throughout the country. In terms of poverty and food, we provided funding to these families to plant gardens. Aside from that, we have workers working amongst and with them.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224591648430bf44d9af4382f58b31a47e\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister agree with the human rights commissioner that keeping a third of M\u0101ori children in poverty infringes their fundamental right to well-being, and that one fair way to alleviate that poverty would be to lift the minimum wage to a livable level?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bfddd65c18f542469e7d034532330f80\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: He maha ng\u0101 huarahi kia taea e t\u0101tau ki te whakam\u0101m\u0101 i te w\u0101hanga kei roto i a r\u0101tau e noho p\u014Dhara ana. Ehara m\u0101 te K\u0101wanatanga anake, engari m\u014D t\u0101tau katoa, ng\u0101 hap\u016B, ng\u0101 rohe, ng\u0101 komiti, ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau katoa mai i ng\u0101 mema P\u0101remata. Kei a t\u0101tau katoa te rongo\u0101 kia whakam\u0101m\u0101 ai te taha ki te taha p\u014Dhara. Kaua e waiho m\u0101 te K\u0101wanatanga anake.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[There are several avenues that allow us to make the lives of those in poverty easier. It is not just up to the Government but to all of us: subtribes, regions, committees, families, and even members of Parliament. We have the remedy to ease impoverishment. Do not leave it for the Government alone.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226ed430a336e94e31a2dd2a04af745614\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister, then, agree that the human right of M\u0101ori children to adequate health care is infringed by the Government\u2019s increase in prescription charges when we know that 14 percent of M\u0101ori do not pick up prescriptions now because of the cost?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002201a5e0a547cb42f5841d23d70248070d\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: He w\u0101 uaua m\u014D t\u0101tau i t\u0113nei w\u0101. He \u014Dhanga whakaheke i t\u0113nei w\u0101. N\u0101 reira, ko \u0113tahi mea e taumaha ana, whakataumahatia o t\u0101tau iwi. Ko \u0113tahi atu e whakapiki ai t\u0101 r\u0101tau noho. N\u0101 reira, k\u0101re he rongoa atu, n\u0101ku te k\u014Drero i t\u0113n\u0101 mea anake \u0113ngari, m\u014D ng\u0101 mea katoa. Mehemea ka taea e t\u0101tau ki te whakam\u0101m\u0101 ai, ki te whakang\u0101wari ai te noho o r\u0101tau e p\u014Dhara ana, ka pai ki ahau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[This is a difficult time for everyone as we are in an economic recession. Therefore, there are some things that make it heavy going for our people, or a burden upon them. So there are no solutions, but this is my personal view not only for this situation but for everything. If we can make the lives of those living in poverty that much easier and smoother, then that would do me nicely.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ba69998dbfc44dbd9cbb0ca1c452f6c6\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister, then, also agree that the human right of M\u0101ori children to decent housing is breached by the Government\u2019s cuts to State and social housing provisions, which currently condemn 28 percent of M\u0101ori children to living in overcrowded homes?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229c4c8b3618f0450c826f66ebf1707ec8\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: Ko taku k\u014Drero ehara m\u014D te K\u0101wanatanga \u0113ngari, m\u014D m\u0101tau. Kaha m\u0101tau ki te tautoko i te K\u0101wanatanga kia whakamahanatia \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 whare e makariri ana. E 20,000 whare kua \u0101whinatia e m\u0101tau e te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori, kia noho mahana ai a r\u0101tau tamariki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[My statement is not on behalf of the Government but for us, the M\u0101ori Party. We have supported the Government strongly in the strategy to warm up cold homes. We, the M\u0101ori Party, have assisted 20,000 homes to ensure that their children are warm.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022933d598afcd24381b19ae44b0d063c16\u0022\u003EChris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I just want to clarify with you. It could be an issue to do with translation, but during question time it has been very clear that Ministers are answering on behalf of the Government, not on behalf of their individual political parties, and twice in question time, in the interpretation\u2014I do not speak Te Reo M\u0101ori, so I just want to check that I am correct here\u2014the Minister has indicated he is replying on behalf of the M\u0101ori Party, not on behalf of the Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ec2adb31b8df4220ba5a48dfccfb299b\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The member is quite correct that Ministers are replying in their role as a Minister, as part of the Government. However, they are at liberty to introduce into their answers other material if it helps them answer the question asked. The risk they face in doing that is if they bring into their answer material to do with their party, they can then be asked about that, when normally they cannot be asked about that. The Minister is not normally answerable in this House for matters to do with the M\u0101ori Party. However, the Minister has, as the member points out, on a couple of occasions introduced the M\u0101ori Party into his answers, and, therefore, the Minister can be asked about those matters that he has covered in his answers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002255228a4719b345b1a21e52f4fc956780\u0022\u003ETe Ururoa Flavell\u003C/span\u003E: T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Speaker. Kia ora t\u0101tau. He aha t\u0101 Wh\u0101nau Ora, ki te whakapiki i te ora o ng\u0101 tamariki M\u0101ori?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker. Greetings, everyone. What does Wh\u0101nau Ora do to improve the health of M\u0101ori children?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221b7fc16f2b78442f80e9d75c54140634\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: Ki t\u0101ku m\u014Dhio, kei roto i te Wh\u0101nau Ora he huarahi kia whakapiki ai te ora o te wh\u0101nau, ka tahi, o te tamaiti, ka rua. M\u0101 te mahi ng\u0101tahi o ng\u0101 tari K\u0101wanatanga me te tautoko i te wh\u0101nau kia noho p\u016Bmau, k\u0101tahi ka whai w\u0101hi \u0113r\u0101 momo wh\u0101nau kia eke ki ng\u0101 p\u016Bkenga, kia eke ki \u014D r\u0101tau wawata, me \u014D r\u0101tau hiahia katoa. N\u0101 reira, hoki aku k\u014Drero ki \u0113r\u0101 k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki te mahi i t\u0113nei momo mahi m\u014D t\u0101tau katoa ehara m\u0101 te K\u0101wanatanga anake, ehara m\u0101 Wh\u0101nau Ora anake. Ka hoki au ki t\u0113r\u0101 whakatau\u0101k\u012B M\u0101ori \u201CM\u0101 t\u0101u rourou, me t\u0101ku rourou ka ora ai te iwi\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[I understand that Wh\u0101nau Ora is a pathway to improve, one, family health, and, two, the child. Government departments working together and supporting the stability of families will provide opportunities for those kinds of families to upskill and realise all their desires and aspirations. And so I go back to my assertions to those statements relating to this kind of work being done by all of us and not by the Government or Wh\u0101nau Ora alone. I go back to that M\u0101ori proverb \u201CThrough your food basket and mine we will ensure that the people survive\u201D.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002237420e236faf470b96211b3d0538b8b4\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: Given that 93,000 M\u0101ori children have parents on a benefit, does he accept that the welfare reforms trap the children of beneficiaries into severe poverty, and are therefore an active discrimination against the human rights of the M\u0101ori children of those families?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dc4acc55499040baaa03b7387ed40d46\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: Ahakoa kei a au \u0113tahi whakaaro e p\u0101 ana ki t\u0113n\u0101 p\u0101tai, ko t\u0113n\u0101 p\u0101tai te p\u0101tai m\u014D te Minita m\u014D t\u0113r\u0101 \u0101huatanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[Although I have my own views about that question, it should really be directed at the Minister responsible for that situation.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229637a1ed4eb740588eef663edafd825f\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. This question was set down for the Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs. The question directly relates to the impact of Government policy on M\u0101ori children. It is within his ministerial responsibility to answer the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f8f1e637b87f4bbabd3cb9798024ea2f\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think the member makes a fair point that the Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs has a broad area of responsibility. The primary question asked about the basic human rights of children alleged to be in poverty, and the supplementary question that was asked did cover those issues. I invite Metiria Turei to repeat her question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228699ca9c4e73435ea6dbca42496d6b56\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: Given that 93,000 M\u0101ori children have parents on a benefit, does he accept that the welfare reforms trap the children of beneficiaries into severe poverty, and are therefore an active discrimination against the human rights of M\u0101ori children in those families?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228ed1ec14dae64adb81cb91a4113ecfac\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: K\u0101re an\u014D kia oti te arotake o \u0113n\u0101 k\u014Drero, t\u0113n\u0101 pepa. Kei te whiriwhiri tonu te K\u0101wanatanga i \u0113n\u0101 kaupapa \u0113ngari ko taku k\u014Drero, ko \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 mea h\u014Du ka p\u0113hi ki runga i t\u0113tahi r\u014Dp\u016B kei roto i te iwi wh\u0101nui, ko \u0113tahi atu e whakapiki ai te ora kei roto i a r\u0101tau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[The review of those comments and the paper are yet to be completed. The Government is still negotiating those policies, but from me, some of the new initiatives are suppressive of an organisation working in the public domain, while others improve the well-being within them.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022caf47a63c3e14250b0395edfbd4d09bf\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Given that under the National-led Government the interests of low-income M\u0101ori are going backwards, why is the M\u0101ori Party continuing to support the Government in confidence and supply?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002253c201010474452f8ab023ab0bac0e7b\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: K\u0101re au e whakaae ana ki te haere whakamuri i te taha ki ng\u0101 M\u0101ori i roto i ng\u0101 whare.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[In terms of M\u0101ori in houses, I do not agree that it is going backwards.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225fd1d25a55c14a35b8bb16cd4bc512f7\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: Will the Minister commit to seeking Cabinet approval to replace the discriminatory in-work tax credit with a new child payment for all low-income children, regardless of whether their parents have a job or not, as one important step towards restoring the basic human rights of M\u0101ori children to a healthy childhood and a long life?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228be847ffc3b04ac4b4d78baa1816d23a\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: I roto i ng\u0101 t\u016Btohinga i waenganui i a m\u0101tau me te K\u0101wanatanga, i tukuna atu \u014D m\u0101tau k\u014Drero i t\u0113nei take ki te K\u0101wanatanga kia whiriwhiri.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[In terms of the charters between us and the Government, we have submitted our views about this matter for the Government to consider.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b16b52552bfa4b23954b3cc53e79c3b7\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. If I understood the answer correctly, it was in relation to advocacy by the M\u0101ori Party for the issue. I understand that the M\u0101ori Party might have a different view from the Government, but I am asking him as a Minister of the Government for his commitment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022724d9a0b8e9944c79718a446bd26b75e\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think the member is making a fair point in that the Minister in his answer said that the M\u0101ori Party had expressed its view to the Government, but I do not think that is actually answering the question. The question asked was whether the Minister would recommend to the Government that it should remove the distinction between the children of parents who are working and those whose parents are not working in respect of the Working for Families tax credit. I do not think it is a satisfactory answer to that to say that the M\u0101ori Party has given its views to the Government. So I know that I have not destroyed the member\u2019s question, I invite Tariana Turia to repeat her question\u2014I beg your pardon, Metiria Turei! My apologies.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022780fc37f8a6d43b4bd933363387bd43f\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: I do not mind being mistaken for Tariana, not at all. Will the Minister commit to seeking Cabinet approval to replace the discriminatory in-work tax credit with a new child payment for all low-income children, regardless of whether their parents have a job or not, as one important step towards restoring the basic human right of M\u0101ori children to a healthy childhood and a long life?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002264b61f17977543cf863325d362eb9f2b\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES\u003C/span\u003E: I roto i \u0101 m\u0101tau k\u014Drero i te t\u0113pu \u0101e.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[In terms of our discussions at the table, yes.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c2d67075a1e44d13aeaad5294be06599\u0022\u003ECompanies and Limited Partnerships\u2014Changes to Governance and Registration and Actions of Associate Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022 data-id=\u00222c1bf8179dd145d6b9a0dafbbf862ad7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222c1bf8179dd145d6b9a0dafbbf862ad7\u0022\u003EKANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Commerce: What steps is the Government taking to help maintain New Zealand\u2019s reputation as a trusted place to do business?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022 data-id=\u0022bee33b1cf8e144feb3e3d3aec1355b98\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bee33b1cf8e144feb3e3d3aec1355b98\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS (Minister of Commerce):\u003C/span\u003E This week the Companies and Limited Partnerships Amendment Bill had its first reading. The bill seeks to strengthen aspects of the rules applying to the governance, registration, and reorganisation of companies and limited partnerships. The reforms will help maintain New Zealand\u2019s reputation as a trusted place to do business and will promote investor confidence and participation in New Zealand\u2019s capital markets. The bill seeks to strike the right balance between deterring the actions that threaten the integrity of a company registration system and maintaining the ease of business for New Zealand companies. I look forward to the select committee\u2019s thoughts on the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e9505a9f690043268f331b402304e023\u0022\u003EKanwaljit Singh Bakshi\u003C/span\u003E: What other issues does the bill seek to address?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221e60f6d9b52c482b9ab54f5e2caf5720\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: The bill will require each company registered in New Zealand to have a resident agent if there is no director living in New Zealand or an approved jurisdiction. It will give new powers to the Registrar of Companies to investigate and deal with non-compliance with the Companies Act. This includes the power to flag companies on the register that are under investigation. These are but some of the changes in the bill. I welcome the support of all parties across the House in progressing at least the first reading of this bill, and I welcome the select committee\u2019s views on all of these matters.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223f16da270dc7445fb662d13e23d7f5e7\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Would another step to maintain New Zealand\u2019s reputation as a trusted place to do business be to stand down a Minister who solicits and receives at least $80,000 in donations in plain envelopes and fails to declare them?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223ebb8a9b05304127b292be3db8a22282\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: The bill has got nothing to do with ministerial responsibility.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e82196f2784b4a1b827c6c7a735f332d\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The bill was the subject of the supplementary question. The primary question was a general question about steps to maintain New Zealand\u2019s reputation as a trusted place to do business. I think the question from Mr Mallard was definitely in order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e3fc1d85f0954dd8a379294846e3db48\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I accept the member\u2019s point of order. It is certainly consistent with the primary question. I guess the Minister\u2019s answer, though, is indicating that he, as a Minister, has no responsibility for whether other Ministers are stood down or not. I believe that is what he was saying, and that is a fair answer, I think. But I fully accept the question as being in order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226d130b863db54555906bc5399ab34281\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Would it help New Zealand to be seen as a trusted place to do business if Ministers had sufficient capacity to remember when they receive $80,000 in plain envelopes and/or paper bags?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fc143ee9f2824d3d929e9b5db7aee878\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: I do not know whether he is referring to\u2014I will not go\u2014the bill as drafted has absolutely nothing to do with whatever that member is talking about.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229fbc8916129a4e4c8a67b320b90045de\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! I say to the Minister that, sadly, the question has got nothing to do with a bill. The question asked what steps the Government is taking to help maintain New Zealand\u2019s reputation as a trusted place to do business. The Minister may have intended\u2014[Interruption] Order! The Minister may have intended that answer to that question to allow him to talk about a bill, but supplementary questions are not constrained. They are constrained only in so far as this primary question states what it states. The question asked is in order. It is hypothetical, but it cannot be ignored, because the question is in order, given that primary question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c9654030df68498789d0e17ed1f5a907\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Should I put it again?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e17632256f4041ff8f55eb6c8afe0a88\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Is this a point of order?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221840bc17646d4b89b2733818de7f6a41\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Oh no, no, I am just offering to put it again in case the Minister\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225bba58428aa94a329658b6843d1e22ec\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! No, I think the Minister can recollect the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022223af9df46ca4139ae0f3c558dabeb6c\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: I recollect there was a hypothetical question, and there are many things that affect New Zealand\u2019s reputation. One of the best things we can do to affect New Zealand\u2019s international reputation as a good place to do business is to continue the prudent economic management that this Government started about 4 years ago and is continuing to do so.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ce0e50401c6843ca99d7c7deae2509fa\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: In light of his desire to maintain New Zealand\u2019s reputation as a trusted place to do business, is he satisfied that the Hon John Banks has the required ethical standards to be his Associate Minister of Commerce?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fec29d064fca471aa5411321a4280f86\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: I do not appoint Associate Ministers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002209f3ba08397a407b87c1f8c34935ede2\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: In light of his desire to maintain New Zealand\u2019s reputation as a trusted place to do business, is it his intention to withdraw the delegations of the Associate Minister of Commerce, John Banks, in light of the revelations that he solicited donations from Skycity, Kim Dotcom, and a third party, and then signed a donation return that could not recall those donations?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224744d4279e0346e1a648b598828f8ec9\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: These reflections reflect pretty badly on the questioner. I have no responsibility for the delegations or any of the roles. That is at the will of the Prime Minister and Cabinet.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022724767807d2e40b5b6fafcafb071f6ff\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. You know, and I know, that that Minister signed those delegations\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a9a055ec4066424ebe7349cb062a8615\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002239f67f296a6149f1935cde6ddb9162c2\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014not the Prime Minister. It is just not true.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022000ce3d2b9b64e978fc34b753cc31238\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! No, order! The member is now questioning the answer. The Speaker has to take the Minister\u2019s answer as it stands. I cannot question whether or not Ministers are giving correct answers; I can only assess whether or not they have provided an answer, and the Minister has certainly provided an answer. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002248539cc4ce844464a83596db4956a42a\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Did he sign the delegation for John Banks as an Associate Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022659f6556-09a1-4ead-bc52-05cbdb4eaab8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225f592ad83a764f199a290ddbc44bbe22\u0022\u003EHon CRAIG FOSS\u003C/span\u003E: Yes; the member is correct that this Minister does sign those delegations in consultation with the Prime Minister. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002254428d072a4a4e9e831c6109a5a64dfb\u0022\u003EWelfare Reforms\u2014Policies Affecting Families\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022 data-id=\u002206590c8a278d455a8357a1f2cc620f9f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002206590c8a278d455a8357a1f2cc620f9f\u0022\u003EJACINDA ARDERN (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Social Development: Does she stand by her statement that \u201Cif we are going to make a difference for the families who are struggling, we need to be able to invest in interventions that we know will work\u201D; if so, what are her methods for developing policies that she knows will work?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022 data-id=\u002243e06bd8ca8840b3a5a2d666c64f50f9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002243e06bd8ca8840b3a5a2d666c64f50f9\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS (Associate Minister for Social Development)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Social Development: The Minister stands by her full statement that was made with regard to the new Social Policy Evaluation and Research Unit in the restructured Families Commission, where she said: \u201CIf we are going to make a difference for the families who are struggling, we need to be able to invest in interventions that we know will work and that have had full evaluations. This new unit will build a body of evidence that will allow policy makers, non-governmental organisations, and anyone wanting to invest in social services to make informed decisions about which programmes are effective for New Zealand families.\u201D The establishment of this unit is a key part of this Government\u2019s focus to ensure we are investing in what works.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002292f62114a97c4e4f85f1fba63389940c\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: Can she provide to the House the evaluation or evidence showing that the policy that she announced on Michael Laws\u2019 show on the court ordering unfit parents not to have further children will work, when the Ministry of Justice denies any involvement in this policy and her own green paper reference group had not been involved?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cdb11f0c243b4a0abda1b0f291717f9f\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: The primary question was directed towards the Families Commission. I have not been briefed in respect of an answer that I could provide to that supplementary question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222076511a17e04107bf3f9408a369b7c2\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The Minister in answering the primary question said that the policies through this unit should have full evaluations. It is quite in order for the Minister to say he cannot answer the question because it has not been provided for, but he should not deny the relevance of the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dda688c1706e4732b344a59e920b116e\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think the point is a fair point. The Minister is perfectly at liberty to say that he does not have the information to answer the question, but I think the point the Hon David Parker makes is correct. The primary question is not focused on the Families Commission; it does not mention it. But the Minister\u2019s answer is still perfectly legitimate, unless he wishes to add anything further to it. He does not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d1989221dd7344488e6b3da02fd011b2\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: Can she provide to the House any advice or evaluation to show that the policy she announced on Michael Laws\u2019 show on drug-testing beneficiaries will work, when a Government department is rumoured to have provided evidence to the Ministry of Social Development strongly criticising the plan?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221f6cd5f25fba4801b58af1f49044890b\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: I have not been briefed in respect of comments she made in respect of drug testing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002293e842da-b06b-4f08-88ce-cb568739e1b1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002254f9889ab8d3438db6a6bf62244a3798\u0022\u003ELe\u2019aufa\u2019amulia Asenati Lole-Taylor\u003C/span\u003E: T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Speaker. E rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 tatou koutou. What evidence has she seen that her military activity camps are working for troubled youth, given that the idea has been discredited internationally and her own camps have a reoffending rate of 53 percent?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228f160143fa52460199a621e71d962852\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: In respect of the military-style activity camps, they have not been commented on internationally. Although they were incorrectly represented in the previous term as boot camps, there has been international evidence in respect of boot camps. In respect of military-style activity camps, there is currently an evaluation that is going on at the moment, and we look forward to the results, as they appear to be positive in the interim.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022917809dc0b1b4d3dae995761dbdbaeb7\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Before I call Jacinda Ardern, I say that when a member from another party asks a supplementary question, they deserve to be able to hear the answer. There was too much interjection then.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002230b1774fe8814e8492858e0d2e713880\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: Can she provide to the House advice or evidence she has used to support the policy of contraception for beneficiaries rather than for all low-income women, which Michael Laws called \u201Ca policy position I\u2019ve always advocated\u201D, given she claimed to have received medical advice but an Official Information Act request later revealed she had received absolutely none?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002287f871931da94125818ede16456734e0\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: I am afraid I cannot answer that question as it is targeted towards comments in respect of contraception. I would suggest that if the member has that particular question, she should direct it in writing or ask the Minister on another occasion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aa2209f1-1889-4c24-b51d-cb2aedc7aa93\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002226e626c295bd4ac4b23035922b5cb997\u0022\u003EJacinda Ardern\u003C/span\u003E: Can she provide to the House the advice or evidence she has to show that the policy she announced at the National Party conference to turn food hardship grants into food parcels to save the taxpayer money would save more than the alternative policy of having an actual plan for job creation and growth so people are not in hardship in the first place?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002291c72ca0b6cf47c28864f0bf04660f8c\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS\u003C/span\u003E: Unfortunately I have not been briefed in respect of that, but I am sure that such a hard-working, creative Minister will welcome the opportunity to answer that question should she be asked in person.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022681f0e4f25fb43ccb5e06afc537ce0c3\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 5 to Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022 data-id=\u00229b7674b80d824672a835e5224918e7db\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229b7674b80d824672a835e5224918e7db\u0022\u003EGRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I apologise; I meant to table this after question No. 5. I seek leave of the House to table a letter from the New Zealand Police dated 26 July 2012 referring to complaints about the Hon John Banks\u2019 mayoral election spending, which notes that he solicited donations from Skycity Entertainment Group, an anonymous radio ad provider, and Kim Dotcom.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022 data-id=\u0022d11bbdd4137a49579aee4a1f77021f4f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d11bbdd4137a49579aee4a1f77021f4f\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227628ca7a962e4aa9972088674983d6a4\u0022\u003EMajor Events Development Fund\u2014Promotion of New Zealand\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a25943b-cb3b-49c3-bd10-74316fae17f1\u0022 data-id=\u0022fde05c60a2fc4a47a130272f0f9e09e3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a25943b-cb3b-49c3-bd10-74316fae17f1\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fde05c60a2fc4a47a130272f0f9e09e3\u0022\u003EJACQUI DEAN (National\u2014Waitaki)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Economic Development: How is the Major Events Development Fund contributing to building New Zealand\u2019s profile overseas?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022 data-id=\u0022a495ef79af2646ae88ec913415351562\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a495ef79af2646ae88ec913415351562\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister for Economic Development):\u003C/span\u003E The Government is using the Major Events Development Fund to partner with organisers to attract, retain, grow, and deliver high-quality major events for New Zealand. The purpose of the Government funding is to ensure lasting benefits for New Zealand from hosting events, promotion of the country overseas, international media exposure, increased tourism, and job creation. For example, last week I attended the media launch of the 2013 Winter Games, which will receive $1 million in support from the Major Events Development Fund. In return for this, Winter Games NZ will provide extensive international television opportunities to promote this country as a premier winter destination across our key tourism and trade markets. It is estimated that the 2013 event will deliver around 33,000 visitor nights and reach a global television audience of around 800 million viewers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a25943b-cb3b-49c3-bd10-74316fae17f1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c5a790b87bcc46ffbb10e8fbe00ea69a\u0022\u003EJacqui Dean\u003C/span\u003E: How will the development of the Winter Games benefit New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c3ecf04d7a6f46e18cbefe15a36bb1f4\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: The Government investment is designed to provide a platform for the event to step up to another level in 2013. It is intended to become one of the world\u2019s top three snow sports events and to deliver the quality expected of a world-leading event. It will be one of the biggest winter sports events, in fact, outside the Winter Olympics. It is expected to increase the number of participants, spectators, and international tourists attending the event. The Winter Games is just one of the many major events that the Government has backed. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d4d67bc732444330a607739abd4d2312\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Hang on\u2014who backed it first? Who backed it first? You\u2019re just a follower, just a follower.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222eb6da9a5bca4298a965eda5c2c31e6e\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: We have also got behind the Rally of New Zealand, the Triathlon ITU World Championship Series, and the World Masters Games. Trevor is having a bit of attention deficit disorder. All these events will help raise New Zealand\u2019s profile overseas, and lead to increased tourism and business opportunities, Mr Mallard.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002272ee1d7fcc0f4b00821c12ee30e45889\u0022\u003EMigrant Workers\u2014Immigration New Zealand Labour Market Testing\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a40f5af7-f9b0-4b44-9669-9e63be1c3ced\u0022 data-id=\u0022b4a3d8de5dab44beb8c6c78c709c1517\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a40f5af7-f9b0-4b44-9669-9e63be1c3ced\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b4a3d8de5dab44beb8c6c78c709c1517\u0022\u003EDARIEN FENTON (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Immigration: What labour market testing requirements does Immigration New Zealand carry out before approving an employer\u2019s application to bring foreign workers to New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022 data-id=\u0022a495edc900b147188bb5369e6e09bdea\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a495edc900b147188bb5369e6e09bdea\u0022\u003EHon NATHAN GUY (Minister of Immigration):\u003C/span\u003E I have been advised by Immigration New Zealand that it undertakes a variety of labour-market checks, where information from Work and Income, recruitment efforts by the employers, and the skills shortage lists are taken into account. In the case of approval in principle applications, consultation is also undertaken with relevant unions, guilds, and industry training organisations. The labour-market test is there to ensure that migrant workers do not displace New Zealanders from employment opportunities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a40f5af7-f9b0-4b44-9669-9e63be1c3ced\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002249e39efa507447c8a0e3adb34c538a66\u0022\u003EDarien Fenton\u003C/span\u003E: Is he confident that labour-market testing processes are robust enough to protect New Zealand jobs, when Immigration New Zealand has just granted approval in principle to one company to bring in 110 so-called fa\u00E7ade installers from China on the basis that there are no suitable New Zealanders able to either do the work or be trained to do the work?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002216e6da0384d1492ea28e04db5cbb904b\u0022\u003EHon NATHAN GUY\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, I am satisfied in the system.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a40f5af7-f9b0-4b44-9669-9e63be1c3ced\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a49063f268eb4e41a99f65e6429698c4\u0022\u003EDarien Fenton\u003C/span\u003E: What specific actions, if any, does Immigration New Zealand take to ensure that the job prerequisites are not overstated or exaggerated in order to artificially exclude New Zealand residents from consideration for work?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022719d1e160a7a41a7843bfee2488ca200\u0022\u003EHon NATHAN GUY\u003C/span\u003E: As I mentioned in the answer to the primary question, there is a very robust process that is worked through with Work and Income, with the industry training organisation providers, with the guilds, and with the unions. There is a very robust process in place, and I am satisfied with that process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a40f5af7-f9b0-4b44-9669-9e63be1c3ced\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fec9fa6e23df4c72b4f8170406c30459\u0022\u003EDarien Fenton\u003C/span\u003E: In what part of the Government\u2019s 120-point economic plan does it state that we will grow our economy and create jobs by bringing in migrant workers into temporary and fixed-term employment, despite New Zealanders being ready and able to do this work or easily trained to do it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c6b431fc74e4ce2b7bbc5265bd76574\u0022\u003EHon NATHAN GUY\u003C/span\u003E: I am pleased that that member is applauding our 120-point plan, which is very successful. It is interesting that Labour brought in the Recognised Seasonal Employer scheme, and if I could just quote from one of its members at the time, a quote that is all about migrant workers in\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022237b8dc726414ffb82a1b7d433a8229a\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! I am not sure that is exactly an answer to the question asked. It was not that specific a question, but the answer should relate to the question and not wander a long way from it. If the Minister is not sure of the question, I invite Darien Fenton to repeat it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a40f5af7-f9b0-4b44-9669-9e63be1c3ced\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f1f74cc86d434b58aa9ba19e070c2291\u0022\u003EDarien Fenton\u003C/span\u003E: In what part of the Government\u2019s 120-point economic plan does it state that we will grow our economy and create jobs by bringing in migrant workers into temporary and fixed-term employment, despite New Zealanders being ready and able to do this work or easily trained to do it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bce065b02bf641c3b50ddb3278746f64\u0022\u003EHon NATHAN GUY\u003C/span\u003E: As the member knows, we do require in our New Zealand economy some foreigners, to ensure that we can continue to grow our economy. If I could, please, talk very briefly about the Recognised Seasonal Employer scheme, which was rolled out by that Government and which we are supporting, Mr Mallard said: \u201CThere are always anxieties about the Recognised Seasonal Employer scheme\u2014about whether it is displacing New Zealand workers. Well, I think there may be an argument in this case that it is actually creating jobs for New Zealand workers.\u201D I agree with Mr Mallard\u2019s statement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a40f5af7-f9b0-4b44-9669-9e63be1c3ced\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221b6e7e2cc01e49cbbf9952faf089a20f\u0022\u003EDarien Fenton\u003C/span\u003E: I seek leave to table a letter from the Amalgamated Workers Union to Minister Kate Wilkinson, asking for a review of the decision to allow 110 workers to be employed on fa\u00E7ade construction, on the basis that the skill required is basic and New Zealanders could be trained to do this work\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022100ed9289b1b49cca9d05f7787e5d223\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00225e58d756ef1a4838bdda55acad41c01b\u0022\u003EEmissions Trading Scheme\u2014Proposed Amendments\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002292557bd5-0e66-473c-a6df-7d108e7822e3\u0022 data-id=\u0022d0674b059ec449f6ab6347bbc878e234\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292557bd5-0e66-473c-a6df-7d108e7822e3\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d0674b059ec449f6ab6347bbc878e234\u0022\u003EDr KENNEDY GRAHAM (Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Climate Change Issues: Is the $328 million additional cost of the Government\u2019s recent Emissions Trading Scheme proposed amendments consistent with the National Party election pledge that the amendments would be fiscally neutral?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022 data-id=\u0022148f54da290348c9af5c10c6e5dd34ef\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022148f54da290348c9af5c10c6e5dd34ef\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES (Associate Minister for Climate Change Issues) \u003C/span\u003Eon behalf of the Minister for Climate Change Issues: Yes, because we do not want the emissions trading scheme to be a tax-grabbing revenue earner from households and the productive sector. We also wanted to amend our scheme, in globally fragile conditions, in the interests of the wider economy, rather than on the basis of some narrow Government interest.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292557bd5-0e66-473c-a6df-7d108e7822e3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022408387bfa1bf423197c6d76f63c13bf4\u0022\u003EDr Kennedy Graham\u003C/span\u003E: Why is the Government increasing subsidies to emitters, in these globally fragile conditions, to the tune of several hundred million dollars, rather than strengthening the emissions trading scheme so that it will actually reduce emissions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a2dbb791aca740aabda53d3ec4899e89\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES\u003C/span\u003E: I do not agree with the basic premise of the question. They are not subsidies; they are the absence of a cost imposed on households and businesses in this country.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292557bd5-0e66-473c-a6df-7d108e7822e3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022020e3e796ebe47ffaec5d90acfd3a9f4\u0022\u003EDr Kennedy Graham\u003C/span\u003E: Why does not the Government follow the UK model, which has a binding 80 percent cut by 2050, with 5-yearly carbon budgets for reducing emissions, instead of simply stating a weaker target with no credible plan to get there?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227c77d5e2897e4a54819dd2699a62fdfd\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES\u003C/span\u003E: I have not examined the UK scheme in any great detail, but it is fair to say we do not want the economic mess that they are in today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292557bd5-0e66-473c-a6df-7d108e7822e3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220cb673685f2c46b29b7a3ebb0733224f\u0022\u003EDr Kennedy Graham\u003C/span\u003E: Rather than weakening the emissions trading scheme, why does the Government not introduce a plan, such as the British one\u2014and I recommend that the Associate Minister read it\u2014that is described as providing \u201Ca clear, credible, long-term framework for a move to a low-carbon \u2026 economy, [giving] businesses and individuals the \u2026 certainty they need to play their part.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022003cbd393ebb4bae80a1333a808a65d8\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES\u003C/span\u003E: I believe that in our emissions trading scheme we have that clear, credible scheme, and we are also, of course, wanting to make sure that in these fragile economic conditions globally we do not ratchet it up unduly at this time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022fe53e19aad6a4a00a694f1bdcb4e42eb\u0022\u003EPaid Parental Leave\u2014Minister\u2019s Statements\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022 data-id=\u0022db404a381b4a416fbdfeea55a864e09a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022db404a381b4a416fbdfeea55a864e09a\u0022\u003ESUE MORONEY (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: Does he stand by all of his statements on the proposed extension to paid parental leave?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022 data-id=\u00228a0c5b32ceb7406b9cebbdc5c6914dcf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228a0c5b32ceb7406b9cebbdc5c6914dcf\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, particularly the statement that the Government supports parents and families. We have spent $154 million on providing the current paid parental leave, which has increased by $67 per week since 2008. Alongside that, the Government spends $1.4 billion on early childhood education subsidies and $2.6 billion on Working for Families payments. We have made sure that despite Budgets being tight and despite a recession, we have at least maintained all these payments to families.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225bf6349d4ac646808d3cf1558f5801b3\u0022\u003ESue Moroney\u003C/span\u003E: Does he stand by his statement in April that the bill to extend paid parental leave would require an extra $500 million in borrowing over the next 3 to 4 years?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d43d59e71d674831b1640f263760a4c6\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a8520e2b8da241519e9ebb29aac1402a\u0022\u003ESue Moroney\u003C/span\u003E: Did he receive advice from the Department of Labour on 11 April, the day he announced his intention to use a financial veto, that showed that the maximum cost of the bill was $285.6 million over 3 years\u2014almost half the figure he misled the public with?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fd7bc2ad088c4226a7c1cf5b9b8b3187\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: If you add the number for the 4th year, they are pretty similar.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002256ee9f8d592f469baa2ab731bce28b53\u0022\u003ESue Moroney\u003C/span\u003E: No, they\u2019re not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d2fda4230279477085195f74d4316ca7\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: They are. The simple point is the member\u2019s proposition will double the cost of paid parental leave. I look forward to the day when the Government has those sorts of choices. We do not have those choices now. We are working hard to maintain the current expenditure of $154 million on paid parental leave, $1.4 billion on early childhood subsidies, which have increased by 40 percent in the last 4 years, and $2.6 billion on Working for Families payments. We are supporting families very extensively.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002216c2798d3fd8430bbc79bd93b3cc50ac\u0022\u003ESue Moroney\u003C/span\u003E: I seek leave to table a document from the Department of Labour, released under the Official Information Act to me, which shows that the maximum cost of the paid parental leave bill over 3 years would be $285.6 million.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222489742375494c8ca396e7eab2c025bf\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought to table that document. Is there any objection? There is objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002296e554bc7df642adbcf8ac014e1d7f96\u0022\u003ESue Moroney\u003C/span\u003E: Did he tell journalists at a press conference he held that he will not extend paid parental leave, even after the Government books get back into surplus, when he announced his intention to use a financial veto, on 11 April?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b1ca9007ef5747d194dde63a58989258\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: It is not a matter of whether I will extend paid parental leave. What I did announce was that in my statutory role as Minister of Finance I would be vetoing this particular bill because of the high cost of it at this time. Of course Governments have got choices in the future, and those choices will all be fairly difficult. Paid parental leave will be only one of a long list of aspirations New Zealanders will have once the Government gets its books back into surplus. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002256da6a23feac4cbb941520fa128524a9\u0022\u003ESue Moroney\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The question was very direct. I asked him whether he had told journalists a particular statement. He did not respond to the question. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002274f865a5670f44198cae7a64fa43866b\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: What I will do\u2014because I cannot recollect exactly the question asked\u2014is I will allow the member to repeat her question, but it had better ask just that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bda42e0ec67847a499062d88c2d44bda\u0022\u003ESue Moroney\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Mr Speaker. It does indeed. Did he tell journalists at a press conference he held that he will not extend paid parental leave, even after the Government books get back into surplus, when he announced his intention to use a financial veto, on 11 April?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f46b1ded932643aaa6a6b4fa5e782fd7\u0022\u003EHon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I cannot recall exactly the words that were used, but I can tell the member that it is not a matter of my extending paid parental leave. I announced that, as Minister of Finance, in my statutory capacity\u2014as used many times by previous Ministers of Finance\u2014I would veto that particular piece of legislation. I look forward to the time where the Government has the kind of choice that the member is proposing, but right now, with a significant deficit, we do not have that choice. I am sure my remarks to the press conference reflected the reality that when we do get to surplus, there are many aspirations New Zealanders will have, of which this is only one. At the time, it may not be the most important. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00226581ce238ded4a5da6dbc89953091992\u0022\u003EFishing Vessels\u2014Changes to Design and Construction Rule\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022 data-id=\u002284712a65e8de4683ad179d1a315d3080\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002284712a65e8de4683ad179d1a315d3080\u0022\u003EJAMI-LEE ROSS (National\u2014Botany)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Transport: What recent changes has the Government made to improve the safety of fishing boats?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022 data-id=\u0022a6a0755cba724b4098dece1ef4a4d8f6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a6a0755cba724b4098dece1ef4a4d8f6\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES (Associate Minister of Transport):\u003C/span\u003E Today I announced changes to the maritime rule covering the design and construction of fishing boats and the equipment used on them. The rule applies to vessels less than 25 metres in length, which make up more than 90 percent of the fishing fleet. The fishing industry is one of our most dangerous, and structural and equipment failures count for approximately one-fifth of fishing industry injuries. The new requirements will mitigate the risks such as of fire and flooding, and substantial new structural requirements will be applied to newly constructed vessels. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228000cdd38a5b4cb6a891cf08505ccdd1\u0022\u003EJami-Lee Ross\u003C/span\u003E: How do these changes reinforce the Government\u2019s focus on better and less regulation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022509f100548ba45ee90484fc169d791f8\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES\u003C/span\u003E: These changes are part of a bigger story in transport, where we are working with industry on reducing both unnecessary compliance costs and red tape while improving safety as well. Other recent examples include regulations regarding jetboat licences and passenger service vehicles. Industry involvement on these changes has been essential to ensuring that rules are appropriate and workable for the sector. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022aa0955596f564f9eaf2bf67f26a0f3c5\u0022\u003EEducation, Minister\u2014Promotion of My School Website Model for School Data\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022530ce0c4-c977-40cb-90fb-754f54931ff1\u0022 data-id=\u00221b97f4d395bb4af99a22cd79ed3025a6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022530ce0c4-c977-40cb-90fb-754f54931ff1\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221b97f4d395bb4af99a22cd79ed3025a6\u0022\u003ETRACEY MARTIN (NZ First)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Education: Does she stand by all her statements?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226e1ead03-bf7f-496a-a02f-ce52859c58c1\u0022 data-id=\u0022f5289025406744d3aadd4c62d977a535\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e1ead03-bf7f-496a-a02f-ce52859c58c1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f5289025406744d3aadd4c62d977a535\u0022\u003EHon HEKIA PARATA (Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te Mana Whakaw\u0101. N\u0101hau i t\u012Bmata t\u0101tau i runga i te karakia i t\u0113nei ahiahi. Otir\u0101 t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau e te Whare e whakanuia nei t\u014D t\u0101tau reo rangatira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e1ead03-bf7f-496a-a02f-ce52859c58c1\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker. Thank you for beginning with a karakia this afternoon. Greetings to the House as we celebrate M\u0101ori Language Week.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e1ead03-bf7f-496a-a02f-ce52859c58c1\u0022\u003EYes. In particular I stand by my statements that this Government wants to see our education system delivering for five out of five kids, and that we are committed to raising achievement and ensuring that all our young people have the knowledge, skills, and values to be successful in the 21st century. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022530ce0c4-c977-40cb-90fb-754f54931ff1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022643d5f0b16824019a193608574198589\u0022\u003ETracey Martin\u003C/span\u003E: Does she stand by her statements on Parata\u2019s Post promoting the Australian My School website as a template for a purpose-built New Zealand educational website?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e1ead03-bf7f-496a-a02f-ce52859c58c1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c50f1be23c65443e9d4517385ff75086\u0022\u003EHon HEKIA PARATA\u003C/span\u003E: I roto i t\u0113r\u0101 kaupapa i kite t\u0101tau \u0113tahi \u0101huatanga e pai ai m\u014D Aotearoa hoki. Heoi an\u014D k\u0101re i te katoa. Hei te w\u0101 ka t\u012Bmata t\u0101ua te hanga i t\u0113tahi m\u014D Aotearoa motuhake ka tiro an\u014D t\u0101tau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e1ead03-bf7f-496a-a02f-ce52859c58c1\u0022\u003E[With regard to the website, we found some elements that were relevant to New Zealand, but not all. When we set about buidling a website especially for New Zealand, we will look again.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022530ce0c4-c977-40cb-90fb-754f54931ff1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224cc8e1ba330647999685b6d87d5540eb\u0022\u003ETracey Martin\u003C/span\u003E: Kia ora. Is the Minister aware that the My School website relies upon the national testing regime, the National Assessment Program - Literacy and Numeracy, or NAPLAN, and that this contradicts her statements to the Education and Science Committee that there are no plans to have a national test in New Zealand, if the model was rolled out without substantial change; if so, can she explain this contradiction?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e1ead03-bf7f-496a-a02f-ce52859c58c1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ab07a8ef45ad45efa64f3aa25fef09a5\u0022\u003EHon HEKIA PARATA\u003C/span\u003E: I roto i taku whakahoki tuarua i k\u014Drero ahau m\u014D \u0113r\u0101 \u0101huatanga e pai ana m\u014D te hanga i t\u0113tahi i roto o Aotearoa. I \u0113tahi atu o aku whakam\u0101rama m\u014D t\u0113nei \u0101huatanga, ka whakakorehia t\u0113r\u0101 \u0101huatanga i runga an\u014D i te whakaaro he whakam\u0101tautau m\u014D te katoa o Aotearoa. N\u0101 t\u0113r\u0101 rerek\u0113tanga k\u0101re i taea \u0113r\u0101 \u0101huatanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e1ead03-bf7f-496a-a02f-ce52859c58c1\u0022\u003E[In the second part of my answer I acknowledged those elements that would be relevant to New Zealand. In other comments I have made, I have been clear that I reject a national test for New Zealand. Because of that difference, it could not be done.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a536d3c2-6293-4216-b0bd-dfec1bd6f40c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227859f58080e543b8ad23503019a289be\u0022\u003EAndrew Williams\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Although this is M\u0101ori Language Week, and we do understand the use of Te Reo this week, there will be many New Zealanders out there who are wanting to hear the Minister\u2019s answer to the question in English. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229900565e87064cc39478197b06199a11\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] Members will respect the fact that I am on my feet. Members in this House are perfectly entitled to use the official languages of New Zealand, and they can use Te Reo at any time they choose. For the people whom the member was concerned about out there in the public, especially those watching on television, there is an immediate translation available to those people watching it on television. That should be available\u2014a simultaneous translation\u2014and if it is not available, I want to find out what has gone wrong technically, because that should be available. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f6554e38149e4bde9b8446c6baaf2720\u0022\u003EPoint of Order\u2014Tabling of Documents\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022 data-id=\u00221eb2d94cd7de442fbcf9d7d161288eb4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221eb2d94cd7de442fbcf9d7d161288eb4\u0022\u003EMICHAEL WOODHOUSE (Senior Whip\u2014National):\u003C/span\u003E In your reflections on question time today and yesterday, I wonder whether you would consider the application of Speakers\u2019 rulings 147/4-6 regarding the tabling of documents. It may be just my perception, but it seems to me that the convention around succinctness may be being relaxed at the moment whereby a number of documents are being described, following which there is a commentary that starts \u201Cwhich shows they have\u201D or \u201Cwhich says that\u201D. In particular, your own ruling, among other things, says: \u201CSeeking leave is not an opportunity to convey information while members are on their feet;\u201D. It may be me, but it does seem that over the last few days that has become elongated. It would be helpful if you would reflect on that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022 data-id=\u0022d71dab56f4d042dfb6f06b1e9edd2061\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d71dab56f4d042dfb6f06b1e9edd2061\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I will hear Chris Hipkins on the point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022d257f276298643b3952581d28d195186\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d257f276298643b3952581d28d195186\u0022\u003ECHRIS HIPKINS (Senior Whip\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Although many of the Speakers\u2019 rulings do indeed refer to that, since some of those rulings were made you have made a further ruling that members need to explain with some particularity what the document is that they seeking to table, so that you can assess whether it is already publicly available, for example, among other things.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022 data-id=\u0022e57c13c980324cec9e0351efcb212892\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e57c13c980324cec9e0351efcb212892\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I appreciate the spirit in which the point of order is raised, but we have made very significant changes to the process for seeking leave to table documents, and members can no longer seek leave to table clippings from newspapers, records of radio transcripts, or anything like that that are readily available to members. We have also made a requirement that members identify the source of the document before making any comment about what it contains. I think that is a mechanism of avoiding the opportunity for members to just get extra speeches in. I think for members of the House to be able to make a decision on whether or not they should allow a document to be tabled, they need to know the source of the document, and they need to have a brief summary of what it contains\u2014some idea of what it contains. I accept that I must not allow members to go on too long there, but I think it is not unreasonable that there can be some brief explanation of what the document contains, since we have eliminated so much of the wasteful tabling of documents. I think it is unreasonable to expect members to make a judgment about whether they should allow a document to be tabled, if they do not know what is in it. But I do accept the point the member makes that I must not allow members to use it as a chance to make an extra speech.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00222ce41377cb784338a7ab7ba15603bc56\u0022\u003EPersonal Explanations\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00221309b6b13f5d4d0c9f8c83334b6dadda\u0022\u003EMothers\u2014Interpretation of Comments Made by Member\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225db0a23e-1579-44c6-9194-76e34cf5ae99\u0022 data-id=\u0022e2df426fe3744961a762cd5bec6861e4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225db0a23e-1579-44c6-9194-76e34cf5ae99\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e2df426fe3744961a762cd5bec6861e4\u0022\u003EDr RAJEN PRASAD (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave of the House under Standing Order 354 to make a personal statement relating to comments made about me in the House last night.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226668a1c0024f4cecb6fed21dd8c6c135\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought to make a personal explanation. Is there any objection? There is no objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225db0a23e-1579-44c6-9194-76e34cf5ae99\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002230d319ba39e941ee9970a2a960d6a7d1\u0022\u003EDr RAJEN PRASAD\u003C/span\u003E: Last night, in the debate on the first reading of the Parental Leave and Employment Protection (Six Months\u2019 Paid Leave) Amendment Bill, the member for Taup\u014D, Louise Upston, said that in a debate in this House last week I had implied that mothers were not capable of doing two things at once. I made no such statement and believe nothing I have said on the risks of work-testing solo parents with a 1-year-old child could be construed in this way. As a former human rights commissioner and a former Chief Families Commissioner , I have always taken a respectful approach to women and would not in any way denigrate their abilities or interests, and did not do so during the debate on the Social Security (Youth Support and Work Focus) Amendment Bill last week.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002216941913d1a44e99a7bcbd30d86385a1\u0022\u003ERongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022aa0d39cf198c4d918861b91685711d33\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022 data-id=\u00226c4d6a25b4d0482484668ef645828989\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226c4d6a25b4d0482484668ef645828989\u0022\u003ETE URUROA FLAVELL (M\u0101ori Party\u2014Waiariki):\u003C/span\u003E He r\u0101 nui t\u0113nei m\u014D ng\u0101 iwi kua tae mai i te r\u0101 nei. Kei te haere atu, kei te hoki mai \u0113tahi mema. He \u012Bnoi noa atu kia paku whakat\u0101 m\u014D te w\u0101 poto, kia ng\u0101wari t\u014D t\u0101tou Whare, kia taea ai e t\u014D t\u0101tou Minita te whakatakoto i t\u0113nei k\u014Drero, kia rongo ng\u0101 taringa \u014D muri ake nei i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ec266512-9fe8-47da-883e-48f046ee5059\u0022\u003E[This is a great day for the tribes who have arrived here today. Some members are leaving and returning. I am just seeking leave for a small recess to allow our House to settle down and to enable our Minister to make this statement, so those remaining can hear what is being stated.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022 data-id=\u00222591a8bda13b4a34b8a25de3fe417bce\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ac169d29-4849-42c2-a4a7-f344fd416503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222591a8bda13b4a34b8a25de3fe417bce\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think the member makes a useful point of order, in that on an important occasion like this it is unhelpful if we commence the debate while so many members are moving around the House and while visitors are entering the gallery. We cannot wait indefinitely, but I certainly think we can wait a moment while members who are leaving the House do so. These third readings are important occasions and have very great significance to people visiting Parliament on the occasion of these third reading debates, so the House will pause for just a moment. I would ask those who are intending to leave the Chamber to please do so, so that once we start the debate the House is not further disrupted by people moving about. I will defer calling the honourable Minister for just a moment longer. Just so the public knows what is going on, I have just deferred the commencement of the third reading debate on Government order of the day No. 1 while members are leaving the Chamber, to give the Minister a more dignified environment in which to make an important speech on this very important Treaty settlement legislation. I think the House is now in a rather quieter state, so I now call on the Hon Tariana Turia.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022 data-id=\u0022a07e95089e0d4e70b5a8b0f0ff785ef9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a07e95089e0d4e70b5a8b0f0ff785ef9\u0022\u003EHon TARIANA TURIA (Minister for Wh\u0101nau Ora)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations: I move, That the Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time. Mai i ng\u0101 k\u0101hui maunga o Whanganui tae noa ki a koutou o ng\u0101 maunga Puketapu, Manawar\u016B hoki, ka t\u016B ahau ki te tuku mihi ki a koutou o Rongowhakaata, ng\u0101 uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi hoki kua takahi te papa kia tae mai nei ki te Whare P\u0101remata m\u014D te p\u0101nuitanga tuatoru \u014D t\u014D koutou piri. Ki a koutou, ng\u0101 kaum\u0101tua, ng\u0101 kuia, ng\u0101 koroua, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003E[From the cluster mountains of Whanganui, to you of the mountains Puketapu and Manawar\u016B as well, I rise to extend a welcome to you of Rongowhakaata, and of the descendants of Te Kooti Rikirangi, too, who have traversed the countryside to arrive here at Parliament House for the third reading of your bill. To you all, the elders, elderly women and menfolk, greetings.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EOne hundred and twenty years ago in April 1893, Te Kooti Rikirangi uttered these unforgettable words: \u201CKo te waka he hoehoenga m\u014D koutou i muri i ahau n\u0101 te ture t\u0113r\u0101. M\u0101 te ture an\u014D te ture e aki. The canoe that you must paddle when I am gone is that of the law. Only the law can be pitched against the law.\u201D Today that prophecy comes to fruition. The Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill will finally settle the historical Treaty of Waitangi claims of Rongowhakaata. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EThe settlement journey for Rongowhakaata and Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi has been a long one. Many who have borne the weight of this journey are no longer with us today, and we acknowledge and remember them. The Waitangi Tribunal\u2019s 2004 report concluded that T\u016Branga\u2019s history includes some of the darkest and most dramatic moments in our nation\u2019s history. The tribunal described the breaches arising from Crown military action against the iwi as some of the worst in New Zealand. But it went further and laid a challenge that I believe it is incumbent on all of us to pick up. The tribunal noted that it could not help but think that the unsettled state of relations between M\u0101ori and P\u0101keh\u0101 is in part due to the fact that these stories are remembered only by tangata whenua and a few specialist historians. This leaves the nation in an unenviable state of flux, and I quote from the 2004 report: \u201CWhile only one side remembers the suffering of the past, dialogue will always be difficult. One side commences the dialogue with anger and the other side has no idea why. Reconciliation cannot be achieved by this means.\u201D How do we avoid repeating the mistakes of the past? What price is paid for the oppressive policies and injustices suffered in the name of the law? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EThis settlement records the Crown\u2019s deep remorse over wrongs done. The apology expresses profound regret that over the generations to the present day Crown actions have significantly impacted on Rongowhakaata\u2019s social and traditional structures, autonomy, and ability to exercise customary rights and responsibilities. The apology is a sincere attempt to report the Crown\u2019s failure since 1840 to respect the mana of Rongowhakaata and their rangatiratanga. It is difficult for anyone outside of this iwi to truly appreciate the depth of loss and prejudice that has been suffered. The words of a young 17-year-old give voice to that grief, which has endured over generations. W\u0113tini Wilkins-Larkin, a direct descendant of Te Kooti Rikirangi, told the story of his nannies, Hine Campbell and Mihi Larkin. \u201CThis struggle\u201D\u2014he said\u2014\u201Cgoes back in history, to the time even when my grandmother was a young school girl who experienced the stigma and shame of being a direct descendant of the koroua. I\u2019m told that the Matawhero massacre would be a common topic in the school curriculum, and that my Nan would often be a scapegoat for other pupils, that the finger was pointed to her in disgust and that she would even hide under the shadow of her desk, with her face hidden behind her hands.\u201D What a painful memory to live with throughout your life. How do Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi move past the stigmatisation of Te Kooti and his descendants? It will take time, and our greatest hope is that in the course of the journey we witness today, we will reach a time when all New Zealanders look on Te Kooti as the founder of Te Haahi Ringat\u016B, acknowledge his inspirational leadership, and appreciate his commitment to the preservation of Te Reo me \u014Dna tikanga, just as his followers from my own iwi continue to follow and believe today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EThis bill expresses that recognition and redress for the bitter grievances of Rongowhakaata that are long overdue. That recognition includes knowledge that the Crown used force in T\u016Branga in November 1865 when there was absolutely no need to do so. The Crown\u2019s attack on Waerenga a Hika, whose occupants included women and children, was unwarranted and unjust and caused severe and long-term prejudice to this iwi. The summary executions at Ng\u0101tapa by Crown forces in 1869 tarnished the honour of the Crown and will live on in the hearts and minds of Rongowhakaata descendants, their w\u2019\u0101nau, and their hap\u016B. The indefinite detention in harsh conditions on the Chatham Islands without trial or the laying of charges was an injustice depriving Rongowhakaata of their basic human rights. The enduring cruelty of Crown actions was epitomised in the 1869 deed of cession, resulting in the extinguishment of all of their customary land interests. In effect, the Crown confiscated Rongowhakaata land, including interests in over 50,000 acres at Patutahi, and by exclusion from titles awarded by the Poverty Bay Commission. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EOn days like this it is unimaginable, the sadness deep within the soul of Rongowhakaata, nor can the ongoing feelings about the Crown actions be put into words.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EThe illegal imprisonment of a quarter of the adult male population of T\u016Branga on Wharekauri, and the loss in the war of an estimated 43 percent of their adult male population, including the illegal execution of a third to a half of that number, were described by the tribunal as a \u201Cstain on our national history and character\u201D. The final chapter in the tribunal\u2019s report, \u201CHei Whakamahutanga: The Healing\u201D Is headed with these words: \u201CWhakamoea nga patu ki nga patu rakau, kia whanau ko te pai. Put to sleep the evil words and weapons of war so that goodness can prevail.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EOne of the ways in which resolution may be achieved is in addressing the confiscation of Te Hau ki T\u016Branga, the elaborate w\u2019are whakairo carved by the expert carver Raharuhi Rukup\u014D of Ng\u0101ti Kaipoho. Crown troops took possession of Te Hau in 1867 in the aftermath of Waerenga a Hika. The acquisition of this cherished tribal whare, which is held by Te Papa here in Wellington, has been a source of great pain to this iwi, and it is right that redress relating to Te Hau lies at the heart of this settlement. The settlement legislation contains within it the vesting in Rongowhakaata of sites of significance, funding for cultural revitalisation, specific redress for Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi, a range of commercial redress properties, and other elements of redress. This will assist Rongowhakaata in rebuilding their economic platform for the benefit of present and future generations. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EWe bear an enduring debt of gratitude to this iwi, who have demonstrated great generosity to the nation in foregoing full compensation. Today there will be time for recognition to acknowledge the significant journey, which started in 1992 when H\u0113ni Sunderland, Peter Gordon, Darcy Ria, and Stan Pardoe lodged their claims. There will no doubt be tears shed and memories shared as Rongowhakaata trace over the steps that led to this day. And in the midst of the heartache I hope there is also room to remember the statement of Wetini Wilkins-Larkin, who ended his submission as the voice of hope: \u201CWe have regained and restored the mana that we so deserved, and can now hold our heads high when saying \u2018I am a direct descendant of Te Kooti Rikirangi.\u2019 \u201D N\u0101 reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022 data-id=\u00223da58190180340c0b6ad02061fae0b9f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223da58190180340c0b6ad02061fae0b9f\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti): \u003C/span\u003EI a koutou o te hau k\u0101inga e whai kaha atu i konei, i te w\u0101hi o te Whare M\u012Bere, e mihi kau ana ki a koutou ng\u0101 t\u016Bpakeke. E tautoko atu ng\u0101 whakaaro i puta \u0101-waha a Tariana me r\u0101tou m\u0101 ki ng\u0101 koroua, ng\u0101 kuia p\u0113r\u0101 i a H\u0113ni, te wahine kaha ki te mahi toi, p\u0113n\u0101 i a Darcy m\u014D tana mahi i roto i te Tari M\u0101ori, me t\u0113r\u0101 a Pita e mahi ana i t\u014Dna mahi i konei i ng\u0101 tari, i a r\u0101tou, me koe, e Stan, ko koe k\u0113 te mea e ora ana. E mihi kau ana ki a koe. T\u0113n\u0101 koe m\u014D t\u0113n\u0101 e R\u0113hia, koutou katoa, e Willie, ng\u0101 mea pakeke, e mihi kau ana, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E te p\u0101p\u0101 Noel, ahakoa k\u0101re au i t\u012Bmata atu ki te mihi i ng\u0101 manuhiri, e mihi kau ana ki a koutou. E tuku mihi ki w\u0113nei, ki te whanaunga a Willie, a matua Stan, a Meka, a Jodie Wyllie m\u014D t\u014D r\u0101tou whakatoi kia oti atu te mahi nei. Me koutou katoa e mahi atu ng\u0101 mahi e rere atu te taea whakahuri ki te rangi oti nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EHe tino rangi pai atu t\u0113nei. E kite atu t\u0101tou o te Whare M\u012Bere e manaaki atu kia oti pai. N\u014D reira. t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. M\u014D r\u0101tou e rere atu. ng\u0101 hunga p\u0113r\u0101 i a Addie, a Huia, e tangi hoki te ng\u0101kau. \u0112ngari m\u014D koutou e ora ana, ko t\u0113nei an\u014D t\u014D kaha o Rongowhakaata e tae atu i konei. M\u014Dhio atu t\u0101tou m\u014D ng\u0101 k\u014Drero o te mahi o nga h\u014Dia. I rongo koutou ng\u0101 tupuna, ng\u0101 pakopako o ng\u0101 p\u016B p\u0113r\u0101 atu te mahinga atu. N\u014D reira, e tautokotia atu ng\u0101 k\u014Drero o te tuahine me t\u0101tou katoa i konei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E[To those from home who made a great effort to get here to the place of the Beehive, to you, the elders, I welcome you. I endorse the sentiments expressed by Tariana and others to the elderly men and womenfolk like H\u0113ni, that great artist; Darcy, his work in the M\u0101ori department, and Pita, for his work among departments here. You too, Stan, the one still alive, I congratulate you. I acknowledge you for your contribution, R\u0113hia, all of you, Willie, the experienced ones, I applaud you all, well done. I acknowledge you, Noel, the father figure. Even though I did not begin the tributes to the visitors, I extend a welcome to you collectively. I welcome these ones, as well: Willie, the relative, uncle Stan, Meka, Jodie Wyllie, for being cheeky so that this matter would be done and dusted\u2014in fact, all of you who set about to complete your tasks to turn things round to get to this day. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThis is indeed a wonderful day. We of the Beehive will make sure that it is completed well. So I commend you. As for those who have passed away, like Addie and Huia, I mourn for them, too. As for you, the living, your efforts to get here, Rongowhakaata, is greatly admired. We know what the militia did, we know the stories. You, the elders, heard the musket fire and the havoc it created. So I endorse the sentiments expressed by the sister colleague and all of us here.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI want to mention Maever and Peter Moeau and the part of this claim relating to Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi. Certainly, Te Kooti\u2019s deeds and the reasoning behind them are things that are etched in history. That he was a trader of some knowledge and was into commerce is something that is very interesting. That he was put asunder, for whatever reason, it is indeed great that we are here today to put all that to rest. He travelled away. He was imprisoned. Certainly, the Ringat\u016B H\u0101hi still survives today, and I want to mihi to them and to the uri.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EBefore I start I want to say that it is a great day, and, before I forget, mihi to the Ministers\u2014Minister Turia and co., and especially Mr Finlayson. I always thought Mr Cullen was the better of the Ministers, but I think Mr Finlayson might end up being not too bad, actually. I want to recognise his ability, because he knows I am going to set to on him about some of these things in here. But I do want to mention him, and the officials, as at times they are sorely forgotten. I do want to mention and mihi to him.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003ESo, Te Kooti Rikirangi, those things and the preserved art forms in several of the houses around the country stand as a signal and a sign to his following and his uri who are still surviving. The fascinating thing is, in my mind, being a scholar of Treaty settlements and understanding most of them, I would say that there is not one worse than this Treaty settlement in terms of what the Crown did to our people in this country. And I am not saying that because they are sitting in the gallery; it is a fact. It was one of the most dastardly actions ever perpetrated, ever set to upon any iwi, tribe, or wh\u0101nau in this country. Today, that we bring it to rest is something that we should be proud of as politicians.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003ERaharuhi Rukup\u014D was a master carver, and he certainly left his etched signal. I thought I would start off here, Minister, with Te Hau ki T\u016Branga, just in case I forgot and the bell rang. Thank you for its return. Thank you for making sure that it goes back. I was fascinated to read in the summary here about what would happen, and the resources and the support that would go to, particularly, its relocation. I think that is great\u2014that it is to be resourced. But I recall when the M\u0101ori land incorporations were returned, a lot of the people jumped at it and accepted it. That house has been down here for a long time, so we should consider ensuring that the ongoing costs of running and maintaining it are put in here. I read it very carefully. There is a lot of talk about resourcing the relocation of it but not about the continuation of both preserving it and making sure that these people are able to be paid to look after it, to be frank, because they have shared it with the nation for a long, long time. There are ongoing costs.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EYou know, this is amazing. These people, the Crown set to on them. Te Kooti did some interesting things amongst them, and for a people to forgive that takes a lot of gumption. For people to accept that that happened and try to get to a better place amongst themselves, not just with the Crown, is something that they should be respected for, because that is exactly what they have done. The thing about history\u2014sad history and bad history\u2014is if you look back too much all you get is a sore neck. At the moment, it is a great day for them to be here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EPrior to 1865 Rongowhakaata had full control of all their resources. They were in control of them, they were running businesses, and they were looking after themselves and the early settlers. When war broke out, Rongowhakaata adopted a policy of neutrality, which is fascinating because some of these people have been branded rebels\u2014I am not sure which ones of them, but they were branded rebels. They took a neutral stance. It is fascinating that the Crown did not respect that peace, that it set to on them, not lightly, harder than over in Taranaki\u2014it blasted them. It certainly shows that the Crown enacted military force to take a position\u2014both lands and resources\u2014and to disenfranchise them, not just from what they had of their own but also to set up the empire\u2019s flag to flutter over the top of them and suggest that they are not needed. Well, they have stood the test of time. They are here today. They have a whakapapa and, as I debated last week, when somebody said that the Crown is returning their mana, Rongowhakaata never lost their mana, like any of these iwi\u2014never, ever, ever. The two scholars over there who were waxing lyrical about that last week need to think again. They never lost their mana. That it was impinged on and it was wounded here and there does not mean to say they lost it. Their tino rangatiratanga has certainly stood the test of time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EAs Minister Turia said, the Crown\u2019s attack on Waerenga a Hika, which included a lot of women and children, was abhorrent, to say the least. It was one of the worst war situations in this country. And the ongoing looting by the military forces after that is something that we need to remember and get rid of. It is a bit like a movie, Rongowhakaata\u2019s history, because some of them got sent to the Chathams with no trial conducted in the courts. They were sent there and locked up. It shows their tenacity, because they escaped after 2 years. If you have ever been to the Chatham Islands like I have, on an aeroplane, I do not know how the hang they escaped. But they must have been pretty smart people to escape, and they escaped. Then other things happened. The summary executions at Ng\u0101tapa by the Crown forces in January 1869 were the worst, in my mind. That people were lined up against the cliffs. That they were torn apart by some overzealous young punk who had come from the empire is something that we need to remember.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003ESo they have been a very brave people, and it is a great day for them to be here to see the end of it, and that Stan Pardoe is still living, for they chew his back every now and again like we do most people in those positions. Stan is still here out of the four original applicants. A lot of these people did this for nothing. That is why the Minister is serious about the whare.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThere is another matter, Minister, and I just want to read from the Crown\u2019s acknowledgment in subclause (17)(b) in clause 7: \u201Cthe pollution of T\u016Branga waterways by Gisborne\u2019s sewerage system and industrial waste has had a severe effect on Rongowhakaata, including the loss of many traditional sources of kai moana;\u201D and blah-blah-blah. On top of that it has got about the forestry and the erosion and that. Well, Minister, the sewage is still there. It is getting worse, actually. I suggested in the second reading that it is not too late to stump up, and that is something that should be put right. I would encourage you to know it a bit harder, Minister, because it is a continued raupatu\u2014that raw sewage pouring out. There is a local authority there. I hope Meng Foon is watching this. We have got a Chinese mayor who can speak M\u0101ori. Kite atu te paru e tuku ana i te takutai moana [You will see raw sewage released on to the foreshore], dare I mention it. I reira k\u0113 te pirau o te tangata e haere tonu atu. [You will see human waste floating away there.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EAs I round up, can I encourage you, Minister, to consider that, on the way through. Kia ora t\u0101tou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u002200675f60b22f4609a90acf928b257bf8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002200675f60b22f4609a90acf928b257bf8\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E E ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 reo, koutou m\u0101 o Ng\u0101ti Rongowhakaata, nau mai, haere mai, ki te P\u0101remata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E[To the authorities and languages, you of Ng\u0101ti Rongowhakaata, welcome, welcome to Parliament.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI am genuinely delighted, and that is no hyperbole, to speak in this third reading debate. I became the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations in late November 2008, and I agreed with my officials that I would destroy their holiday and take them on a h\u012Bkoi in mid-January 2009 so that I could meet some of the iwi that I would be dealing with. So the first flight was up to Tair\u0101whiti and the first meeting was with the good people who are in the gallery today. That is where I first met Stanley Pardoe, Kristen Maynard, and others. So it has been, even since 2009, a long and somewhat convoluted journey, but we are here today and I do acknowledge the negotiators, particularly you, Stan. It has been great to get to know you and to work with you. I am just so pleased that we have reached this stage. I also wish to acknowledge others who have come from T\u016Branganui a Kiwa to join us today, because this is a very, very important day in the life of the country and this bill has its unique features. It is not a mere deal, as some insultingly describe it. It is a very important settlement of grievances that go to the heart of our nation. It gives effect to a deed that Rongowhakaata have negotiated with the Crown. It contains Crown acknowledgments that are very important\u2014and I suggest that if people do not know much about the history of what happened, they should read those acknowledgments and they should read the preamble\u2014and the Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill also contains provisions for cultural and commercial redress. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIt is very important to acknowledge the contribution of negotiators. It is not pro forma thanks, because these negotiators in this particular matter have worked on this claim for more than a decade. The tribunal held hearings in the early 2000s, and in 2004 the tribunal reported that the history of what went on in T\u016Branganui a Kiwa was marked by grievous Crown breaches of the history and by some of the darkest moments in our nation\u2019s history. More than 40 percent of the men in T\u016Branganui a Kiwa died as a result of Crown military action between 1865 and 1872. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ESettlement negotiations with the Crown began in 2005, and when Dr Cullen\u2014well, Sir Michael, as he is now\u2014was the Minister in charge of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations an agreement in principle was signed, in September 2008. I was very fortunate to be the Minister to work with the iwi to complete the detail of the settlement, and we initialled the deed of settlement at what I thought was a very moving ceremony at Te Papa in July last year. I have to say there was some considerable publicity both on television and in the papers about the initialling, and I was expecting quite some negative emails to start flowing in\u2014as so often they do\u2014but I never received anything, because I think people deep down acknowledged that this was a taonga that did not belong to Te Papa; it belonged to the people of Rongowhakaata. Then the deed was signed last spring, on a beautiful Friday morning in September. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI believe that it is very important for people to understand just what went on. Mrs Turia has outlined the broad history, and I do not think it is necessary or appropriate for me to go over ground that has been so ably covered by her and also by Mr Horomia. But I just want to focus on what for me is very much one of the highlights of this bill, and that is the way in which we have managed to reach a resolution for Te Hau ki T\u016Branga, because the Crown simply did come in and confiscate it in 1867. It was removed by force, and it has been kept in various national museums ever since. Many alterations have been made to Te Hau ki T\u016Branga without the consent of Rongowhakaata. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI always enjoyed the initial debates I had with some officials about the legal ownership of Te Hau ki T\u016Branga. They were saying: \u201CWell, you know, the statute said that when Te Papa was created, all property of the old Dominion Museum transferred over to Te Papa.\u201D and it sounded all so very legal, but the reality of the matter is\u2014as we all know\u2014that the ownership of Te Hau ki T\u016Branga was never surrendered by Rongowhakaata; never handed over with their consent. That is why it is very important to note that clause 23 of the bill makes it clear beyond any doubt at all that Te Hau ki T\u016Branga vests in the trustees nominated by Rongowhakaata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E I thought that the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee did a very good job and its commentary is worth referring to, because it said it is currently housed\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002229c13df041794233a78ff6d3dfae9481\u0022\u003EHon Parekura Horomia\u003C/span\u003E: Good chairman.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225581eacdefcc4a8ca47e20d258e91646\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, it is not just the chair. We know that he is a superstar, but there are others, as well, and being the generous soul he is, he would be the first to acknowledge that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe select committee heard that Rongowhakaata do not wish the return of Te Hau ki T\u016Branga to create a financial burden for future generations, and it records that Te Papa and the Ministry for Culture and Heritage have committed themselves to working with Rongowhakaata to ensure a sustainable future for the whare, particularly as regards its relocation. I endorse 100 percent what Mr Horomia said. It has been shared with the nation for over 100 years; it is entirely fair and appropriate that central government makes a significant contribution to the ongoing costs. It is certainly not going to be a situation where the Crown simply says to Rongowhakaata: \u201CWell done. It is back in your hands. You look after it.\u201D So I am very much looking forward to engaging with Rongowhakaata\u2014we have already started, but I am looking forward to the ongoing engagement\u2014to make sure that in the very near future we determine a way in which it can be relocated to Tair\u0101whiti and that the financial redress of the settlement, which will enable the iwi to build a future for themselves in Tair\u0101whiti, will not be spent disproportionately on Te Hau ki T\u016Branga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EMrs Turia has also outlined the commercial and the financial redress, and I am not going to repeat that. I just want to say to the people of Rongowhakaata as, if you like, the Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage that I am determined and I am very keen to engage with them sooner rather than later so that we can work out when exactly Te Hau ki T\u016Branga can go home and how the Crown can help. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThere are many people who have contributed to this settlement. I acknowledge Mr Horomia, who was with me the day the deed was signed. I acknowledge Sir Michael Cullen, who oversaw the preliminary negotiation of the agreement in principle. I guess we all thought, did we not, in 2009 that it would be able to be signed up very quickly, but there have been issues. They have required patience and determination\u2014and I see Stan Pardoe nodding. Probably he thinks: \u201CWell, Minister, that\u2019s an understatement.\u201D I acknowledge my ministerial colleagues. I particularly acknowledge the Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs, with whom I have so enjoyed working on this matter; the Minister of Conservation, who is always very generous when I come knocking about cultural redress; and also the Minister for Land Information. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EMany Government departments and officials have also made very valuable contributions. But, as I said in the Ng\u0101ti M\u0101kino debate a couple of hours ago, one expects that of officials and Ministers because that is our job, but there are people in the gallery who have given, and given, and given, over many years. They have given of their own time, given of their weekends, and at some financial cost in order to reach this stage. Very few people outside the negotiators for the Crown and the officials, I think, appreciate the sacrifices that the negotiators of Treaty settlements make on behalf of their people, and I salute them for their tenacity, their good faith, and their courage. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIn conclusion, all I want to say is that we have unfinished business\u2014that is, the Crown and Rongowhakaata. We have, hopefully, a strong ongoing relationship that will blossom in the years to come, and I can think of no better first task for us to get on with in that new relationship than to focus on Te Hau ki T\u016Branga to see what we can do, because from my personal point of view, the sooner we can resolve that, the sooner that Te Hau ki T\u016Branga goes home, the better. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022 data-id=\u0022875866e11ad64ed7b522e4ecdd5120b7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022875866e11ad64ed7b522e4ecdd5120b7\u0022\u003ERINO TIRIKATENE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Tonga):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe te Kaiwhakahaere o te Whare. T\u0113n\u0101 k\u014Drua e ng\u0101 minita, koutou r\u0101 ng\u0101 mema o t\u0113nei P\u0101remata, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E aku rangatira, e ng\u0101 iwi o T\u016Branga-nui-a-Kiwa, Rongowhakaata, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, Te Aitanga-a-M\u0101haki, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Nau mai, hara mai, whakatau mai ki te P\u0101remata nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. \u0100, mihi atu ki aku whanaunga n\u014D Te Wai Pounamu, n\u014D Kai Tahu wh\u0101nui kua tae mai nei ki te kaupapa o t\u0113nei r\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Huri noa i te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[Greetings to you, Mr Speaker of the House, you two ministers, and indeed all you members of this Parliament, salutations. I acknowledge you, my leaders, and people of Gisborne, Rongowhakaata, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, and Te Aitanga-a-M\u0101haki, greetings. Welcome, welcome, and welcome to this Parliament, salutations. To my relatives from the South Island and Kai Tahu at large, who came here for the matter of the day, I commend you. Greetings, then, to you throughout the House, and to us all.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E Much has been said by the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations and my senior colleagues today in reference to the Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill before us. It gives me great pleasure to be here to speak at this, the final reading for Rongowhakaata and ng\u0101 uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi. This bill is about them, and it is a real honour. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EA lot of comments have been made, and they are true, about the atrocities that were committed against Rongowhakaata. They were heinous: Waerenga a Hika, Ng\u0101tapa, the detentions over at Wharekauri, and the confiscations of their lands. I have spoken a lot about those actions in my earlier speeches, so I want to focus this final speech on some other aspects of this bill and the settlement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThe return of the superb piece of artwork, the whare known as Te Hau ki T\u016Branga\u2014and I know the speakers before me have spoken a lot about the return of that beautiful, beautiful whare\u2014and the ongoing preservation of that revered house will be of great import to the descendants of the master carver Raharuhi Rukup\u014D, and the wh\u0101nau and hap\u016B of the Poverty Bay area. These people of Rongowhakaata are an ingenious people, quick to seize upon opportunities advantageous to themselves, and were successful international traders right up until 1865. Just the ingenuity of Rongowhakaata\u2014the flight of the so-called rebels from Wharekauri to T\u016Branga is a classic example; my matua here, Parekura, mentioned that. It is a classic example of what I speak of, and the daring of those actions never ceases to amaze me. It was not much of a trick. They were imprisoned for 2 years on a faraway land over there in Wharekauri, they overpowered their guards, hatched a cunning plan to flag down a schooner, and headed back home to T\u016Branga-nui-a-Kiwa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EIt seems to me that the only way to get to and from the Chathams in those days was to steal a boat, because P\u014Dmare did it from Wellington in 1835\u2014he did the round trip\u2014and Te Kooti and his crew did the return trip back from the Chathams. Those M\u0101oris were not going to paddle their way back\u2014it is too far\u2014but such was the ingenuity, sheer willingness to survive, and drive to get back home that was demonstrated by the illustrious t\u016Bpuna of Rongowhakaata, who are here today. That is why I have absolute faith in the uri of Rongowhakaata as they look towards their future as the descendants of these intrepid and fearless men and women. I know the leaders of today are well equipped with the knowledge needed in today\u2019s world. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EMay I also take this opportunity to acknowledge ng\u0101 uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi, in this bill. Over 130 years of stigmatisation has ended for the descendants of Te Kooti. Finally, families back home in Gisborne and uri around the world have an apology from the Crown, acknowledging that its actions led to the deprivation of mana for the descendants of this great patriot. His proverbial saying, his whakatauk\u012B, \u201CE kore he tangata o T\u016Branga e kite i a au; e kite he whenua o T\u016Branga i a au\u201D, has become a song for the land. It translates as \u201CThe people of T\u016Branga will never see me again; the land of T\u016Branga will\u201D. It evokes a new dawn, expressed as a belief that his spiritual return will occur as this terrible history is laid to rest through the process of legal settlement, which we are going through now in the 21st century. The whakatauk\u012B expresses the hopes of five generations that land taken at T\u016Branga will be recognised as having been wrongfully taken. Then the martyr Te Kooti Rikirangi\u2014the man who was exiled as a spy without trial in 1866, without cause\u2014may be able to return home. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EFinally, I would like to encourage the history of Rongowhakaata that has been outlined in the Crown acknowledgments and the Crown apologies in this bill\u2014that Treaty history and these texts, stories, and histories that are a huge contribution to our national history\u2014I want to encourage our nation as a whole to grasp the lessons of the history that is now etched on our statute book. We do not want them to be just sitting on the shelf. I would like to encourage this Government, or whoever is in Government, that we make sure that our Treaty history as outlined in these Treaty bills becomes compulsory teaching in our social studies classes for our tamariki right throughout the motu. I think it is very important that this history is known and that it is educated to not only this generation but also generations to come. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EMay I acknowledge my colleagues in the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, under the chair of the Hon Tau Henare, and all our fellow members. I also acknowledge the work of Minister Finlayson and his officials. I am a new member to this House, and I do think that in a way we are finishing off the h\u0101ngi but it was actually laid down by those before us. It has the hands of that great statesman Sir Michael Cullen and other people and administrations that have been awhi-ing and tautoko-ing this bill right from the early days. It is a pleasure to be participating in this third reading and to be part of the select committee to bring this bill to its final passing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EFinally, I would like to mihi to Rongowhakaata, to Stan Pardoe\u2014I see Lewis up there\u2014and to all of the kaum\u0101tua and kuia who have travelled all this way. It is a real honour to mihi and to speak to this bill. I know it is a very important day for you. It harks back to my own memories, obviously, when I was sitting up there with my whanaunga from the south, when we were having the passing of our own legislation down there for Ng\u0101i Tahu. So I know how you must be feeling today: very proud. I join you and we all join you in the celebration today. We acknowledge the many, many years of hard work that you have committed, Stan, and your team there, but also we acknowledge the many ancestors who have gone before you. I am very proud to celebrate this with you today and I mihi to you all. Kia ora t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022 data-id=\u00226766c80816584e0d9059c8438cb6b780\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226766c80816584e0d9059c8438cb6b780\u0022\u003EMETIRIA TUREI (Co-Leader\u2014Green):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Speaker. E te M\u0101ngai o te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Tuarua, ki ng\u0101 mema o t\u014D t\u0101tou Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Tuatoru, e mihi atu ki te Wiki o Te Reo M\u0101ori, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Ki a Rongowhakaata, ki ng\u0101 uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker. Greetings to you, Mr Speaker of the House. Secondly, to the members of our House, greetings to you all. Thirdly, I acknowledge M\u0101ori Language Week, greetings to you all. To Rongowhakaata and relatives of Te Kooti Rikirangi, salutations to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003EThe Green Party is pleased to support the Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill at its third reading and to see this bill passed. I want to acknowledge the contribution made by my colleague Catherine Delahunty in the second reading. Catherine Delahunty was resident in this rohe, as she talked about at that time, and has a very strong personal connection to this area and to the people there. She talked about that personal experience of being a P\u0101keh\u0101 women living in this rohe, knowing these stories and the hardship that resulted or that was suffered by the mana whenua in these areas. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003EThose kinds of contributions from, particularly, I think, P\u0101keh\u0101 are very important in this House because it recognises that each person stands to speak and say what their experience was, and how they have related to those issues in their life. It acknowledges that tangata Tiriti have a role in this country and have a place to stand in this country, and are as much a part of the history of the process of colonisation as any other. We can, therefore, take responsibility for our role as a citizen in a country that has been colonised and we can acknowledge the history of hurt that was caused by the State, which represents us, by the Government forces that have represented us, and perhaps even by our own wh\u0101nau in some circumstances in the past, not with a sense of guilt but with a sense of acknowledgment, peace, and justice. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003EIt is a very important contribution to make. So I appreciate that I have the opportunity today to speak as a M\u0101ori woman, Kahungunu, \u0100ti Hau woman, on this legislation, and to congratulate Rongowhakaata on all of their work in bringing this legislation into the House, as well as all of those who have spoken before me on this legislation. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003EThe history of this, of Rongowhakaata, is probably one of the better known histories, actually. It has been written about in various forms because of the extraordinary personality that was Te Kooti, and the abuse of that history\u2014of the genuine history of Te Kooti at this time. It is actually one of the stories that is perhaps one of the better known, although probably quite badly misrepresented over time. I agree with my colleague from Labour who talked about the need for these stories to be told in their fullness and from the mana whenua perspective about what happened during that time, so that the history that our kids have and that their kids will have is an honest and true one, and shows both sides, if you like. It is OK that those stories might be different, but there are two stories to be told and both are essential. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003ETwenty-two rangatira of Rongowhakaata signed the Treaty. They were invaded by military forces, Government forces. Members of Rongowhakaata were killed, a number were exiled, they were rescued by Te Kooti, and there was retaliation by Te Kooti against those who were part of that exile process. As a result, the Crown forces came in very hard on the hap\u016B and iwi there, capturing the p\u0101 and executing a number of the prisoners caught in that process. That is set out quite well in the bill and I think it is good that it is, because again that is a very explicit description of the story. But as a result Rongowhakaata lost virtually all their land and were left almost entirely landless. The titles were individualised\u2014I know we have heard this story repeated a few times today\u2014so that it became even more difficult for Rongowhakaata to retain any kind of control over their own natural resources.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E The settlement process is designed to return some kind of compensation, some kind of redress, for the actions of the Crown. As well, we talk a lot in this House during Treaty settlements about the generosity of iwi in accepting these settlements, knowing that the redress, the compensation, for the harms caused is just absolutely minute compared with the harm and the hurt that they have suffered. I want to again acknowledge that generosity, partly for Rongowhakaata and partly to Rongowhakaata, because it is actually the rest of the community that needs to understand the extent of that generosity. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003EThe Green Party has always said, from the time we started here in Parliament with our parliamentary presence, that the Treaty settlement process was not a just one. We have, without apology, talked during Treaty settlement debates about the Crown failures. We consider it part of our fundamental responsibility when we stand up in this House and talk about Treaty settlements not only to acknowledge the iwi and all of the work that goes into seeing them come to the House at this point, but also to hold the Crown to account for its failures. That is a necessary part of this process, however uncomfortable, for whichever Government is currently running the country. We said the same things when Labour was in Government as we say when National is in Government: the settlement process itself has flaws, and those flaws create undue hardship for the iwi who in good faith, genuine good faith, are working with the Crown as best they can to find some redress for their wh\u0101nau, and for their iwi and hap\u016B, so that they can move on, at least at this point. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003EIt is important, in our view, as the Green Party, that we do hold the Crown to account, because there are few others who are able to do so, and that is part of our critical role here in Parliament. To that extent, I feel compelled not only to acknowledge the importance of the return of the whare in this legislation and what that means for Rongowhakaata but also to express our real concern that Rongowhakaata are not required to carry the burden of the return of that whare. It is their right and entitlement to have it back as they see fit, in a way that they see fit, at a time that they see fit. It remains, in our view, an ongoing obligation on the Crown to make sure that Rongowhakaata have what they need to care for that whare as they see fit, well into the future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003EThis would be a clear demonstration by the Crown of what the Minister was talking about earlier, which is that it is the actions of the Crown from this point on that will develop a relationship of trust with Rongowhakaata. It is the actions of the Crown that count from this point on. One of the actions that the Crown can commit to is to ensure that Rongowhakaata have everything they need at every step of the way to make sure that that whare is returned, and returned in a way that it can be cared for well into the future. That would be a clear demonstration of good faith by the Crown to an ongoing relationship, in our view. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003EFinally, I want to acknowledge those who have died during the time of the process of this settlement to Parliament. As we know, settlements take a long time. People who work on them often do not see them to fruition. I acknowledge the work of all those who will see this settlement work into the future, and I wish Rongowhakaata and Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi the best, best wishes for the future. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022 data-id=\u00220279496879b54f5fa74414602a7c5eda\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220279496879b54f5fa74414602a7c5eda\u0022\u003EHon Dr PITA SHARPLES (Co-Leader\u2014M\u0101ori Party):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe. T\u0113n\u0101 koe. E ng\u0101 maunga Puketapu, Manawar\u016B, Horouta waka, T\u0101kitimu waka, ng\u0101 uri o Ruapani, Rongowhakaata, T\u0101manuhiri, nau mai, hara mai r\u0101. Hara mai r\u0101 ki Te Whanga-nui-a-Tara, hara mai r\u0101 ki t\u0113nei Whare P\u0101remata. E tika ana kia mihi atu ki a t\u0101tau mate, ng\u0101 mea kua mauria e koutou ki r\u014D Whare nei kia t\u016B honohono \u0101 t\u0101tau mate. Hoki aku mahara ki a Timi, t\u0113r\u0101 Ariki kua tukuna atu, me \u014D koutou mate, \u0101 t\u0101tau mate, n\u0101 reira, haere koutou okioki pai mai i te Kaihanga hei wh\u0101riki m\u0101 m\u0101tau. N\u0101 reira, koutou ki a koutou ng\u0101 mate. Kia hoki ki te kaupapa o te r\u0101 nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, nau mai r\u0101. He r\u0101 whakahirahira t\u0113nei, he r\u0101 nui. Kua oti k\u0113 te h\u012Bkoi. Rua tekau tau koutou e kawe ana i t\u0113nei kaupapa mai i te w\u0101 i t\u012Bmata ai, i whakatakoto ai t\u0113nei ker\u0113me ki mua i te aroaro o te k\u0101wana. N\u0101 reira, kia tangi atu ki a H\u0113ni, ki a Peter Gordon, ki a Darcy. N\u0101 r\u0101, kai te ora tonu koe Stan, ka whakaaro au, noho tonu. N\u0101 reira, tangi atu ki a r\u0101tau n\u0101 r\u0101tau i kawe te kaupapa nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EKi te k\u014Drero t\u0101tau e p\u0101 ana ki t\u0113nei ker\u0113me, hoki ng\u0101 mahara ki t\u0101 koutou h\u012Btori, te w\u0101 o te pakanga, te mamae, te taumaha, te whakatorotorotanga o ng\u0101 p\u0101 me \u0113r\u0101 \u0101huatanga muru whenua. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou kua tae i t\u0113nei rangi. Ko te w\u0101 tuatoru, ka p\u0101nuihia t\u0113nei pepa, pire kei roto i te Whare P\u0101remata nei i te w\u0101 whakamutunga. Mai i t\u0113nei, ka whakaturetia, mai i t\u0113r\u0101 ka riro ki a koutou te whakap\u0101ha o te k\u0101wana, ng\u0101 taonga me \u0113r\u0101 atu ki a koutou. M\u014Dhio an\u014D, ahakoa kua oti t\u0113n\u0101 kei roto tonu i a koutou ng\u0101 maumaharatanga ki a r\u0101tau kua ngaro atu i \u0113nei w\u0101, i te pakanga nei. N\u0101 reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EKai te mihi au ki a koutou, Minister Finlayson. He tika tana k\u014Drero, he kaha nei te haere ki roto i ng\u0101 iwi ki te whakatikatika i ng\u0101 ker\u0113me.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E [Thank you. I welcome you, the mountains Puketapu and Manawar\u016B, Horouta canoe, T\u0101kitimu canoe, and the descendants of Ruapani, Rongowhakaata, and T\u0101manuhiri, welcome, welcome. Welcome indeed, to this Parliament House. It is appropriate that I acknowledge our dead, the ones you brought into this House here to intermingle with our dead. So my thoughts go back to that high chief, Timi, just interred, as well as your dead and our dead. Rest well there with the Creator to become a mat for us. Therefore, remain there, the dead amongst your own. Allow me to return to the theme of the day, greetings, acknowledgments, and welcome indeed. This is an important day and a great one. The journey is done. For 20 years you took responsibility for this matter from the time this claim began until it was put before the Government. So I mourn the loss of H\u0113ni, Peter Gordon, and Darcy. However, I note that you are still alive, Stan, and think to myself, stay alive. So mourn for them, the ones who took responsibility for this matter. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EWhen we talk about this claim, memories about your history, the period relating to the battle, the seriousness, setting down redress, and those aspects around land confiscation will be recalled. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003ETo you who have arrived here today, salutations, greetings, and acknowledgments to you collectively. This is the third reading of this bill, and the final stage in this House of Parliament. From here it will be passed into law, and from that point, the Government\u2019s apology with assets, and so on, will become yours. Be mindful of the fact that even though it has been settled, memories of them who are lost from us today as a consequence of this battle will remain within you. So, I acknowledge and commend you all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EAcknowledgments, as well, to you and your team, the honourable Minister Chris Finlayson. What was stated is correct\u2014he moves tirelessly among the tribes to tidy up claims.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EI was one who missed out on my holiday, as well, because Minister Finlayson was so keen to get out amongst the iwi. That is how quick off the mark he was. In 2005 he was elected the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, and at the end of the year, during the Christmas holiday, he spent the whole time going around\u2014up to you and everywhere else. Kei te mihi au ki a koe e Chris Finlayson me t\u014D t\u012Bma, me ng\u0101 kaiwhiriwhiri kua tono atu e koe ki roto i ng\u0101 iwi o Te Tai R\u0101whiti nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EN\u0101 huri aku k\u014Drero i n\u0101ianei ki ng\u0101 mahi a te Karauna, n\u0101 r\u0101tau koutou i t\u016Bkino i te w\u0101 o te pakanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[I commend you, Chris Finlayson, your team and negotiators whom you sent in to the tribes of this East Coast. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EMy comments turn now to address the actions of the Crown, which was responsible for these atrocities upon you at the time of the battle.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E In the years 1840 to 1860 Rongowhakaata enjoyed a period of peace and economic development. With the local rivers, fertile soil, and kai moana, Rongowhakaata lived in abundance, enjoying a measure of prosperity and of trade, and operating several trading ships. When approached to sell land, they refused these things and hung on to all of their rawa, and their lands, and their mana. They refused to sell. What a change was about to take place in the next decade.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EIn November 1865 large Crown military forces came to T\u016Branga, after fighting Paimarire converts on the East Coast. The Crown laid siege to the defensive p\u0101 of Waerenga a hika, and captured it in November 1865. At least 71 occupants of the p\u0101 were killed during that assault. The Crown acknowledges that it used military force when there was no need to do so, that it did not pursue all reasonable options for preserving peace in T\u016Branga, and that the Crown\u2019s attack was unwarranted and unjust, and caused severe and long-term prejudice to Rongowhakaata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EIn 1866 the Crown exiled approximately 116 T\u016Branga men, including Te Kooti Rikirangi, to the Chatham Islands and we have heard k\u014Drero about that. They were detained without trial or conviction for 2 years, in harsh conditions, until they escaped in 1868. The Crown acknowledges that the indefinite detention of many Rongowhakaata, including Te Kooti Rikirangi, on the Chatham Islands was an injustice that deprived them of basic human rights. It was wrongful, contrary to natural justice, and impacted not only on the prisoners but on their wh\u0101nau and hap\u016B who remained in T\u016Branga. The Crown also acknowledges that the unjust treatment of Te Kooti Rikirangi gave him reason to distrust the Crown when he was offered the chance to return to T\u016Branga after his arrival back on the Mainland.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EBut in 1868 Rongowhakaata were pressured by the Crown to cede all their lands to the Crown. This cessation was made under duress, as the Crown had threatened to remove all its protection unless the entire district was ceded. All Rongowhakaata\u2019s customary interests in their lands were extinguished. By December 1868 Te Kooti Rikirangi and his followers had retreated to Ng\u0101tapa P\u0101, where they were surrounded by Crown forces in conjunction with M\u0101ori allies. Te Kooti Rikirangi and some of his followers escaped in early January 1869 and were pursued for several days. The Crown again acknowledges that the Ng\u0101tapa siege and its aftermath caused the death of many Rongowhakaata and had a devastating impact on the iwi and the whole of T\u016Branga. In subsequent years the Poverty Bay Commission and the Native Land Court awarded individual titles, which only helped the alienation of those titles.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EThese and other breaches have left Rongowhakaata virtually landless and without enough resources to meet their present and future needs. The breaches of the Treaty in the T\u016Branga area were extremely significant and have had many lasting effects for Rongowhakaata, so I would like to take this opportunity to highlight the Crown apology contained in the deed of settlement and, subsequently, this Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill. The apology is significant as it takes a step towards healing the hurt that is felt as a result of the Treaty breaches. I would like to refer to t\u0113r\u0101 whare rongonui, \u0101taahua, kua hangaia i raro i a Raharuhi Rukup\u014D, n\u0101, \u0113 whakaae ana kia whakahokia t\u0113nei taonga ki te iwi [that famous and beautiful house built under the guidance of Raharuhi Rukup\u014D, and I concur that this treasure be returned to the tribe].\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EBut as with many Treaty settlement redress items, there are costs associated with the return of w\u0101hi tapu or taonga. I am heartened to know that Rongowhakaata do not wish the return of Te Hau ki T\u016Branga to create a financial burden for future generations. As such, Te Papa Tongarewa will work with Rongowhakaata and the Ministry for Culture and Heritage to ensure a sustainable future for the whare, particularly in relation to its relocation. This is a significant step towards righting the wrongs of the past and mending the relationship between Rongowhakaata and the Crown.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EThis bill today also outlines the redress provided to Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi, the other claim that we are hearing as well, and I acknowledge Peter and Maever Moeau. It acknowledges and is in recognition of the stigmatisation of the descendants of Te Kooti Rikirangi. This redress includes the vesting of Matawhero Reserve, the payment of $250,000 for purposes of Te Whare R\u0101kei o Te Kooti Rikirangi, the payment of $200,000 to Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi, and a relationship with the Department of Conservation with regard to interpretation material that refers to Te Kooti Rikirangi. This redress is a significant step towards rehabilitating the reputation of Te Kooti Rikirangi and acknowledging the discrimination experienced by his descendants.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EThe settlement also provides for the establishment of a central leadership group and a local leadership body. The central leadership group has been established to provide a forum for Rongowhakaata, along with other T\u016Branga iwi\u2014and I think this is pretty important\u2014to engage with central government departments and ensure that the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi are being implemented in a coordinated manner within the T\u016Branga region. The local leadership body will work with the local council to contribute to the sustainable management of resources within the T\u016Branga region. These redress items provide Rongowhakaata with a valuable opportunity to engage with central and local government on a range of issues that affect their rohe in the wider region.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003ESo t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, Noel. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, Rongowhakaata, kua tae katoa mai koutou i t\u0113nei w\u0101 m\u014D t\u0113nei rangi whakahirahira, e tika ana kia mihi atu ki a koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003E[Noel, thank you and your people. Thank you, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and Rongowhakaata, all of you are here at this point in time in regard to this momentous day. Therefore, it is fitting that I acknowledge you collectively, greetings and congratulations.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219767ece-60f1-4014-9855-74afaa34e699\u0022\u003EThe settlement redress provided for in this bill seeks to recognise the seriousness of Rongowhakaata grievances and to build a positive foundation for future generations of their iwi. I therefore commend this bill to the House. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022 data-id=\u0022fd3e9b35c7da43619a2fd700cb148156\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fd3e9b35c7da43619a2fd700cb148156\u0022\u003EBRENDAN HORAN (NZ First): \u003C/span\u003EKa tangi te t\u012Bt\u012B, ka tangi te k\u0101k\u0101, ka tangi hoki ahau, tihei mauri ora. E ng\u0101 iwi, e ng\u0101 reo, e ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 m\u0101t\u0101waka, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. E rau rangatira m\u0101 ka mihi atu i runga i te karanga o te r\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003E[The muttonbird calls, the parrot calls, and I call as well, behold the breath of life. To the tribes, voices, authorities, and kinship groups, greetings to you, greetings to you, and greetings to you all. Oh, leaders of a hundredfold, I pay homage to you in respect of the call of the day, so acknowledgments, salutations, and congratulations once again to us all.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EI rise on behalf of New Zealand First to acknowledge and support the third reading of the Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill. I cannot help but wonder; I know the media is somewhere out there, watching on closed-circuit television, but just imagine if we were in the States right now. What would be happening? Every network would be screening this, rich histories would be exposed, and movie rights would be bought and sold. Even in Australia, they would have this all over the networks. But what is going to lead the news tonight? Is this rich tapestry, the tragic stories, the amazing day that is today, the settlement, and the apology going to lead the news tonight? Or is gay marriage going to lead the news tonight? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fc8ab326-1806-41d3-8c41-cd58c95dcb45\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d4395c6e4d9045a3b9c66f8c17644f93\u0022\u003EMetiria Turei\u003C/span\u003E: What\u2019s wrong with gay marriage?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eb95dce0ef5b4a1682080fdc6288f8dc\u0022\u003EBRENDAN HORAN\u003C/span\u003E: I feel very sad, and yes, I can understand the Greens saying: \u201CWhat is wrong with gay marriage?\u201D. What is wrong is that New Zealand\u2019s history is at stake here; the knowledge, the healing of New Zealand and New Zealanders\u2014that is what is at stake. I think it is sad that tonight it probably will not lead the news; that tonight all of New Zealand will not be listening, will not be hearing about what really happened, and what a great day today really is. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EI agree with the sentiments of many of the speakers before me\u2014in particular, Parekura Horomia. The atrocities perpetrated by the Crown on Rongowhakaata are heinous, and well documented. In 1868 in Ng\u0101 Uri, over a hundred Rongowhakaata, including Te Kooti, were put on boats and exiled, without trial, to the Chathams. This took place in the winter months of March to June. It is somewhat of a miracle, and testimony to their prodigious strength, that they even survived the journey, and then to escape 2 years later is absolutely phenomenal and amazing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EAround the same time, we must think about the people of Ng\u0101tapa, where a hundred men were lined up and shot in the head. Shortly after, but still in 1868, Te Hau ki T\u016Branga was confiscated from Ng\u0101ti Kaipoho. For those people who are watching on television, Te Hau ki T\u016Branga is a mighty meeting house carved by Raharuhi Rukup\u014D. Raharuhi is also the biblical term for Lazarus, and with the imminent return of their spiritual home, Rongowhakaata look forward to a Lazarus-like return to prosperity in body, spirit, and mind. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EThe return of this meeting house is paramount, and much anticipated, and I must acknowledge the comments made by Minister Finlayson and the hope that he imbibes those comments. We look forward to that process being dealt with as expeditiously as possible. We also want to make sure that the Crown pays for the insurance as well, because insurance costs are very high. But the meeting house, the taonga, has also been plundered over the years, as the Minister alluded to, with changes being made, and also over 60 taonga missing from the meeting house. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EThe hurt, humiliation, atrocities, and terror inflicted upon Rongowhakaata can never be fully compensated for, because, after all, who can raise the dead? In financial terms, one cannot replace what was lost when M\u0101ori landowners were dispossessed of their land, only to watch European farmers lease that land at peppercorn rates, borrow on the equity, and build empires, whilst M\u0101ori were catapulted into poverty. As with so many historical grievances, the journey to this point has been extremely hard\u2014taxing, arduous. So much hard work has been done by so many people who have passed on. I would say special praise and acknowledgment to two leading elders of the Gisborne region who are no longer with us, but no doubt are here in spirit. I refer to Darcy Ria and H\u0113ni Sunderland. We mourn their loss, but celebrate their inspiration, which has led us to the achievement of this settlement and immensely special day. We also acknowledge and thank the negotiators Stan Pardoe and Jody Wyllie, Meka Whaitiri, Maever Moeau, and Peter Moeau, and also from the Office of Treaty Settlements Andrew McConnell and his team. Well done, everyone involved. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EWe in New Zealand First also celebrate the transparency of the Rongowhakaata Trust in putting forward their strategic plan last October. The 10 trustees were democratically elected from five marae, and we wish them well in the implementation of their strategic plan. It is great to see the trustees committing to regular bimonthly updates through the Rongowhakaata website and Facebook. This settlement is long waited for, and richly deserved. Now, another journey awaits: one of self-determination. I will leave you with a Maniapoto saying, given to Maniapoto before his journey over to England to make a plea to Queen Victoria. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EKa hora te marino, kia whakapapa pounamu te moana, kia tere te k\u0101rohirohi i mua i t\u014D huarahi. For those who are, again, out there and do not understand M\u0101ori: may the calm be widespread, may the ocean glisten like greenstone, and may the shimmer of many summers dance across your pathway. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022 data-id=\u00222bd23bb850f3488da0e17ded44132f4d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222bd23bb850f3488da0e17ded44132f4d\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE (National):\u003C/span\u003E Te mea tuatahi ki a au, ki aku rangatira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, \u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou i haere mai i t\u0113nei r\u0101 i runga i te kaupapa o te r\u0101 nei, n\u014D reira, nau mai, haere mai. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E[First of all, acknowledgments to you, my leaders who came here today in respect of the matter of the day, so, salutations and welcome, welcome.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI suppose I should start off by saying there is a conflict of interest, but I do not actually see it as a conflict of interest, so I will not. Can I pass on my respects to Stan, Meka, Jody, Willie, and the team for Rongowhakaata, and everybody else who has been involved in that side of it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EAs I said last week in the second reading of the Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill, I find this story to be one of the most interesting that has not been told in New Zealand\u2019s history. I want to give you, if I may, some parallels to other happenings around the world. Around about the same time as the battle of Waerenga a Hika and as Ng\u0101tapa\u201420 years difference or so after the battle of Waerenga a Hika and the slaughter and massacre at Ng\u0101tapa\u2014is one of the world\u2019s better-known massacres, and that is the massacre at Wounded Knee. I suppose it brings me to the fact that this country had better start owning its own history. This is not Rongowhakaata\u2019s history; this is our history\u2014this is New Zealand\u2019s history. We should not refer to it as their issue; it is our issue. We had better start teaching this stuff in our schools, because although to some people \u201Cignorance is bliss\u201D, most of the time when there is ignorance around, you do not know who you are and you do not know where you are going. And you certainly do not know where you come from. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EThere is a whole brilliant history in Rongowhakaata, not only about the sad occasions. There are happy occasions as well that we need to be telling our mokopuna, our babies, and ourselves about, like the fact that Te Kooti was not some layabout who sat around thinking about how to diddle the Crown out of whatever. He was actually out there as a business person seeking betterment for his own people. That is a trait that I think everybody in this House should, and most probably does, stand up and applaud.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EAbout this \u201Cdeal\u201D, to call it a deal\u2014I suppose a deal in real terms is when both sides are getting what they want. You know, you go down to the car market and make a deal with the guy whom you want to buy a car from. It is pretty obvious that this is not that sort of deal, and that all the power is in the Crown\u2019s hands. But, having said that, the two sides, if I can use those terms, have come together and decided on a historical account, some cultural redress, some commercial redress, and some specific research for Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi. I pick up where Minister Finlayson, Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, so eloquently left off, and that is about Te Hau ki T\u016Branga. This is not just about the stealing of a whare by some Crown agents, because that was just the start of it. To try to fit it into the Dominion Museum, they cut most of the carvings apart. So it is in the light of that ongoing, I suppose, rape of our culture and violation of our culture that to see the return of Te Hau ki T\u016Branga in the most appropriate manner\u2014and, might I say, maybe as an arts centre for New Zealand\u2014is I think, one of the most appropriate parts of this settlement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EFor too long M\u0101ori have been told they are sick, dumb, uneducated, and poor. I do hope that what we do today says to our people especially that you are not sick, dumb, uneducated, and poor; you are the most brilliant people this side of the southern hemisphere, and most probably beyond. I have so much respect and love for our people that it is not funny. From this day forth I will not ever speak of anything that is bad about my own, because it is about time that we patted ourselves on the back, regardless of the statistics, and said that we are on our way, and we have been for a thousand years. We should not compare ourselves with P\u0101keh\u0101, Samoans, Chinese, or whoever. We should compare ourselves with the bright lights of our own people. We should compare ourselves with people like Rukup\u014D, like Ng\u0101rimu, and like so many of our other ancestors. I am not going to buy in to any more of the statistics that basically are used to keep us down and make us feel sad about ourselves. There is nothing to be sad about. I think this occasion and these occasions, as we have started from 9 o\u2019clock this morning, show that our people are with it, and that they can sit down with the best of them and negotiate a reasonable deal. I will not say it is a good deal; I will never say it is a good deal. A good deal would be having it all back. But we know that that is impossible, and so this is a reasonable deal. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI want to close by saying what I said and what I will say continually. My message to Rongowhakaata is this: beware of companies and shysters bearing good little ideas on how to spend your money. It is your money, and it is your settlement. It is for you to show the way for the rest of us. So please beware of those people out there who knock on your door and say: \u201CBoy, have I got a deal for you!\u201D. As soon as they say that, shut the door and make sure you let the dogs loose.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EIt is fun; I am full of happiness and joy for Rongowhakaata and for M\u0101ori that we can boost ourselves up and we can boost our people up, especially when they deserve being boosted up. N\u014D reira e aku m\u0101tua, e aku koroua, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora mai t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E[So to my fathers and elders, greetings, salutations, and acknowledgments to you and to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022 data-id=\u00222131242e7d0d450995636af0754f316c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222131242e7d0d450995636af0754f316c\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour\u2014Hauraki-Waikato):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E t\u0101piri atu aku mihi maioha ki a koutou Rongowhakaata, i pakaru te kaha ki te whakatutuki i t\u0113nei kaupapa kei mua i te aroaro i t\u0113nei w\u0101, n\u014D reira, ki a koutou katoa, ka nui te mihi atu. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[Thank you, and salutations to you collectively. I add my loving regards to you, Rongowhakaata, who worked really hard to bring this matter before us at this point in time to a conclusion. I acknowledge you greatly.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EIt gives me great pleasure to join in the previous comments supporting the legislation that is about to go through the House today, the Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill. Having read the historical background in the bill and also listened to Minister Turia and my colleague the Hon Parekura Horomia, I will tread lightly on the history of Rongowhakaata and Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi, lest I tread in the wrong place. So please do not take my contribution as a diminishing of the intent of the legislation, except to say I recognise in the bill a huge, huge step forward in terms of the intent of Rongowhakaata and Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi in coming together to work forward for the betterment of your people and most certainly for future generations. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EWith that in mind, there are five brief words in this bill that we should all cherish when we think about Treaty settlement legislation: \u201CThis Act binds the Crown.\u201D Underpinning those five small words is a deed of settlement with much of the substance of the intent of Rongowhakaata and Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi about what they want to aspire to. We should always remember that, because this is M\u0101ori Language Week, and when the good people of New Zealand look at Parliament and listen to the debates, it is my sincere hope that they do not judge us just on question time. It is my sincere hope that they believe that we are contributing to trying to make New Zealand a better place, and Treaty settlements are but one of the ways in which New Zealand is becoming a better place. Why? Because it resolves the historical injustices of the past. Why? Because it shows the magnitude and magnanimity of spirit that M\u0101ori have had, despite history, to try to move forward. Why? Because the Crown, with some level of humility, recognises that it has a long way to go to rectify the hurt of the past, but also the necessity of ensuring the durability of settlements despite this. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ESo to the good people of New Zealand who are listening to the debates on Treaty settlements in the House today, it is my sincere hope that you see this as a positive step that can build a nation that is committed to rectifying history in some small way, to telling both sides of the story. Part of Rongowhakaata\u2019s bill seeks to rectify that story. We often tell the history of other iwi very poorly in this House, and it is often drawn from what is written in the legislation, but again it is my sincere hope that in the schools throughout New Zealand\u2014and especially, in this instance, in the Rongowhakaata region itself, in their schools\u2014they can tell both sides of the story. They were never ever told to them, their parents, or the parents before them. But to their children, yes, history can be rectified. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI also wanted to comment briefly on the magnanimity of the people of Rongowhakaata and Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi in ceding much of the varied claims in their rohe to be able to get to this point. Clause 14 outlines the extent and the nature of, I guess, the undertakings that had to be sought to be able to come to this point today. And we should never ever forget that many, many smaller claims have made up the context of this bigger claim. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EIt is important because often I have sat on a number of select committees where people feel very aggrieved at giving up their own Waitangi Tribunal claim to be able to join a larger, comprehensive claim\u2014that their particular grievances and hurts cannot be told. So I want to draw the attention of the House to each and every one of those Wai claims in clause 14, and I want to acknowledge for the record that it is no small matter that iwi have managed to consolidate collective interests of this nature. It is very significant. It is an important act of goodwill that I, certainly, as a member of this House want to acknowledge, and I pay tribute to the leadership of those involved in negotiating the intent of this claim. Much of the debate has focused on the opportunities for successful implementation, and again I remind us of those five key words: \u201CThis Act binds the Crown.\u201D It should bind the Crown in every generation that seeks to give life to the intent of Treaty settlements, but we have to be vigilant. Although politicians come and go, the iwi collective memory is very vivid, and it stays the same, and people will carry the torch of intent of Treaty settlements in ways that we can never fathom or understand. We have to be diligent as parliamentarians, and, certainly, when you are on the Treasury benches representing the Crown, implementing the full extent of undertakings within Treaty settlements. So the cultural redress components are really important. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EMembers before me have spoken about the need to return Te Hau ki T\u016Branga back to Rongowhakaata, and can I just say this one thing. Despite the nature by which this house has come into the public domain and provenance, I want to acknowledge that this house has been a huge gift to the nation. For every person who has visited Te Papa Tongarewa, for every person who has been able to get a glimmer of the richness and the value of M\u0101ori culture and its contribution to shaping the identity of New Zealand, this particular whare has played a huge role. So I want to acknowledge that, because it is not well said and expressed, and I want that recognition to go into Hansard. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThe second aspect is really on the implementation of the protocols. Can I just say that there are a range of protocols here that give body to the opportunities going forward for the claimant groups. The conservation protocol, the Crown minerals protocol, the fisheries protocol, and the taonga t\u016Bturu protocol\u2014each of those will require the strong commitment of the Crown\u2019s representatives through age and time to ensure that those protocols are able to be delivered upon. No matter which administration comes into force, it is a minimum expectation. This is, I guess, the part of settlements where I become, I guess, very cautioned\u2014probably by our own experience and our own settlement back home\u2014that unless we as parliamentarians are diligent, for the benefit of the intent of the Crown, for successful implementation, then memories will soon fade, and the intents of these protocols will be lost, and perhaps not as successfully implemented as is anticipated today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThat is the very reason why I think the statement of the Minister is absolutely correct. When it comes to Treaty settlements, this small part is a step along the way to a much greater intent, and that is to see the full realisation of the dreams and aspirations of Rongowhakaata, Ng\u0101 Uri o Te Kooti Rikirangi realised in some very tangible ways, which the Crown must give body to. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EWith that small contribution, again I want to commend the bill to the House, and I am proud that our members of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee have been unwavering and unstinting in their support of the four bills that have come before us today, and have shown us that there is a lot to look forward to, especially for the people of Rongowhakaata, who are no strangers to providing opportunity for their people, for looking for economic development opportunities, for investing in the future of their next generation, and, more important, for preparing themselves well to be able to move forward successfully. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, i raro i t\u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 tino pitopito k\u014Drero, ka t\u0101piri atu aku whakaaro ki \u0113r\u0101 i waihotia i roto i te Whare nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[So, after that really very brief contribution, I add my thoughts to those presented by others in this House, and commend you all.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022 data-id=\u00224e05a845a79f490bbe14e497b1fdb670\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224e05a845a79f490bbe14e497b1fdb670\u0022\u003ELOUISE UPSTON (National\u2014Taup\u014D):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Speaker, t\u0113n\u0101 koe e te Whare. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 iwi rangatira o Rongowhakaata, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Ko McGill t\u014Dku iwi, ko Karapiro taku k\u0101inga, ko Maungatautari taku maunga, ko Waikato te awa. Kei ahau te rohe p\u014Dti o Taup\u014D, ko Louise Upston ahau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker, and greetings to the House. To the revered people of Rongowhakaata, salutations and acknowledgments to you collectively. My clan is McGill, my home is Karapiro, Maungatautari is my mountain, and Waikato is the river. I have the Taup\u014D electorate, and my name is Louise Upston.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EI am very proud to speak in the third reading of the Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill. It is fantastic to see so many of you here on this very momentous occasion. This will be a day that goes down in your history and ours. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EOne of the words that we use quite a lot when we talk about Treaty settlements is the partnership that is forged between iwi and the Crown. The completion of the legislation and the completion of the third reading here today will cement that relationship, that partnership, in a new way. We also talk about the fact that settlements unlock the economic potential for iwi, for the region in which you live, and for the country as a whole. But I think that, more important, it unlocks the potential of our people, and I use the word \u201Cour\u201D very deliberately because it is your people and ours who will benefit from the history that is made here today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003ESome of my colleagues have spoken at length in summary of your settlement so I do not want to traverse that in too much detail, other than just to be very present to the fact that the Waitangi Tribunal has described the Treaty breaches arising from the Crown military action against the T\u016Branga iwi as some of the worst in our history. That is part of our history that none of us should be proud of. But I think it is also important to acknowledge that it is part of our history. The settlement includes the historical account and the Crown acknowledgments, which form the basis for the Crown apology to Rongowhakaata, and that is what I want to just spend a bit of time on today in this House. On 1 October 2011 the Treaty settlements Minister, the Hon Christopher Finlayson, delivered the extensive apology for the Crown\u2019s conduct in the 1860s, which included the operation of the Poverty Bay Commission and the execution of between 86 and 128 unarmed prisoners at Ng\u0101tapa p\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EI was not present, as some of my colleagues were, when that Crown apology was delivered, but I was present for the Crown apology to Raukawa. Raukawa is an iwi in the Taup\u014D electorate. I wondered if I could have your indulgence for a moment to share with you my experience of being present at that Crown apology. My memories of that day will be for ever etched as part of my history, because it showed me a whole different level of partnership and what is possible\u2014from the p\u014Dwhiri and through the speeches, tears literally fell upon the ground at the memory of the history and the stories that were told of the challenges of the negotiation, of the many hours of effort that went on, and of the passing of those who were then not present on the day that the Crown apology was delivered. It was no surprise to me that day, for the Raukawa apology, that also the rain fell from the sky. To me that was the tears and the rain playing a part in cleansing some of that pain. I just feel so immensely privileged to have experienced a Crown apology. And I was immensely proud of Minister Finlayson. Some would say that that was the delivery of words of a speech, but I can promise to those of you who are listening, who may have never had the experience of witnessing a Crown apology, it is a moment to behold, and it is part of our history. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EI am sorry to those here from Rongowhakaata that I personally was not present for your apology, but I can believe what was in your heart and your minds and your soul as you heard that apology. That is what we bring to this House on this occasion in the third reading of your settlement bill. The thing that was very present was aroha. I think that is the essence of partnership. When we talk about Treaty settlements being a partnership between iwi and the Crown, that is where a new beginning is possible, that is where that potential gets to be unlocked. It is exciting to be here today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EEarlier today in the two bills that have gone before, I have talked about making sure that we share the stories. You are very good at sharing your stories\u2014far better than some of the rest of us are. So part of the story is to look at the new chapter and the new story. Perhaps it is a book or even a trilogy\u2014trilogies are in these days. Perhaps what we should instead be focusing on is what comes next. And I look forward to hearing more of Rongowhakaata and where you take this day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EI am very proud to speak in this reading, to speak of the partnership between Crown and the iwi. In recognition of Te Wiki o Te Reo M\u0101ori, I hope we can imprint this in Te Reo as well as English to make sure that this moment in history\u2014this moment in time\u2014lasts for many more of us, for our children, and for our grandchildren. It is fantastic to see tamariki in the gallery to witness this moment. Congratulations. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022 data-id=\u0022bd7b5d40bcd147bebd48bf11c033c7aa\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bd7b5d40bcd147bebd48bf11c033c7aa\u0022\u003ECHARLES CHAUVEL (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E It is an honour to take a call in this debate, and, in particular, to follow my colleagues on this side of the House the Hon Nanaia Mahuta, the Hon Parekura Horomia, and Rino Tirikatene, because I want to associate myself with the remarks that they have made already in this debate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003ENext Wednesday I will have been a member of this House for 6 years, but I have not asked to participate in a Treaty settlement debate until now. My conversation with my colleague Parekura Horomia earlier this afternoon led us to agree that I should do so on this occasion, as shadow Attorney-General, because, as many people in the gallery know, I am a person who was born and spent the first two decades of his life in the rohe of Rongowhakaata. My family and I experienced the great generosity of the tangata whenua of that part of our country while we were living in that part of New Zealand. I wish to add my personal words of tribute, gratitude, and acknowledgment to those who have already spoken in the debate today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EMy mother\u2019s family arrived in Gisborne as immigrants from Scotland in the 1940s. My father came to Gisborne a little bit later. He came to New Zealand to go to school. He came to Gisborne to practice law. He did some work for a number of people whom I see present today, helping them with their land and estate work before it was an area of practice that was popular, or in vogue. He was very proud of the work that he did. In the 1970s and 1980s my sister and I went to school in your rohe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EAs I mentioned earlier, the generosity that my family and I, as manuhiri to that rohe, experienced is always something that strikes me when I look back on my childhood, and when we contemplate the context of the settlement debate today we realise just how extraordinary that generosity is. That is for at least two reasons. One is the fact that yours is one of the most blood-drenched episodes in our colonial history. I will not repeat the accounts that have been recounted earlier in the debates of the atrocities that your ancestors had to put up with at the hands of the Crown. But there is something that I think is even worse than the fact that those atrocities took place: it is the fact that many of us\u2014most of us, all of us\u2014who went through the New Zealand education system in the 1970s and 1980s were not taught about them. So another important thing about this process is that we can record our history. Nobody will have the excuse to say that they do not know about it, because all that history is now going to be recorded for ever in an Act of this Parliament and in the settlement documentation, and that is absolutely as it should be. Earlier speakers are correct\u2014we do not teach our history properly. And if we do not teach our history properly, we cannot expect people to understand and appreciate the generosity that is being shown today by the fact that Rongowhakaata are accepting the settlement that we are now enacting.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EI have spoken about generosity several times in this call. It has always been on display by Rongowhakaata. The redress that they will receive under this settlement, as with all Treaty settlements\u2014and this an observation I think made many years ago now by the Hon Mark Burton\u2014will never compensate the iwi for what it experienced from 1865 onwards. Never in a Treaty settlement is there adequate redress or compensation for the wrongs of the past. So it is very much always an act of generosity on the part of the Treaty partner to accept what is proffered by the Crown in a binding settlement. We are fortunate today that this Treaty settlement has been accepted and is being enacted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EI think we are also very fortunate that the generosity that I mention has, in a somewhat rare occasion in this House, proved contagious. My colleagues earlier acknowledged the work that has been done by the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations in progressing this and other Treaty settlements, and I join with them in acknowledging that work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EThe Minister in turn has very properly acknowledged another truth about the settlement process: it does not exist just in the present. The negotiators on both sides stand on the shoulders of giants, and they rely on the work that was done in the past in order to bring the settlement about. For the part of the Crown, the Minister properly acknowledged the work that was done by the Hon Michael Cullen as Deputy Prime Minister in the previous administration. The signing in principle on behalf of the Crown of the agreement for a collective settlement package in August 2008 was what enabled the detailed negotiations to occur and to progress to the point that they have today. The historical research that was done in order to back up the Treaty claim that was processed through the Waitangi Tribunal in the early part of the last decade was able to be done and resourced only because the fourth Labour Government had amended the Treaty of Waitangi Act in 1985 to allow for grievances back to 1840 to be heard and determined by the tribunal, and for historical research and advocacy services to be resourced as part of that process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EThank goodness that that happened, because that is how we were able to come to a definitive recording of the history that has been spoken about by previous speakers and will be recorded in the deed and in the Act of Parliament. It is a timely reminder that the Treaty process needs to continue to be resourced adequately. This applies to the tribunal and to those who present claims before it. It is no good to have a deadline for the cut-off of Treaty settlements if the process is not properly resourced by the Crown in all respects, and we should all remember that in this House when we speak in support of Treaty settlements such as the one that is being debated today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002259e9efe2-6dea-4eeb-869a-ef5b3e48a5b5\u0022\u003EIt is an honour to have had an opportunity to speak in this debate. I want to conclude by again acknowledging the tremendous generosity of Rongowhakaata. I have been a beneficiary of it personally, so I know that the people in the gallery will not be worried at all about what leads the One News tonight. You have more important concerns than that, given the long time that it has taken, the long wait, for justice to be brought to you. To Rongowhakaata and to Ngai T\u0101manuhiri\u2014because I am not sure whether I will have the opportunity to speak in the next debate\u2014I want to say that it is a marvellous thing that the generosity that you have shown is now being shown to the nation as a whole. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022 data-id=\u0022911b34a60dcd46dfb58d7b7e6f07be1d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022911b34a60dcd46dfb58d7b7e6f07be1d\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS TREMAIN (Minister of Internal Affairs):\u003C/span\u003E Tihei mauri ora. Whakataka te hau ki te uru, whakataka te hau ki te tonga. Kia m\u0101kinakina ki uta, kia m\u0101taratara ki tai. E h\u012B ake ana te at\u0101kura, he tio, he huka, he hauhunga. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Ki te Whare e t\u016B nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, ki a Papat\u016B\u0101nuku kei waho, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Ki ng\u0101 mate, haere, haere, haere. Ki ng\u0101 tangata, rangatira, kaum\u0101tua o Rongowhakaata, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Ki ng\u0101 mema o te P\u0101remata, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Ki a koe te Kaik\u014Drero hoki, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003E[Behold the sneeze of life. Cease the winds from the west, cease the winds from the south. Let the breezes blow over the land, let the breezes blow over the ocean. Let the red-tipped dawn come with a sharpened air, a touch of frost, and a promise of a glorious day. Greetings to you collectively, greetings to the House standing before us, and greetings to Mother Earth outside. Depart the deaths, depart, farewell. Acknowledgments to you, the leaders and elder folk of Rongowhakaata, to the members of Parliament, and to the Speaker, as well, greetings. So greetings, greetings, and greetings to us all collectively.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003EWell, kia ora, everybody. It is a real privilege to stand in the House at this third reading of the Rongowhakaata Claims Settlement Bill. I firstly acknowledge the work of members of Parliament across the House, led by the Hon Chris Finlayson, who has done an outstanding job, I believe, for this nation over the last 3 years. He continues in this term of Government to work tirelessly to bring about settlements throughout our nation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003EJust 2 weeks ago I was in the Chatham Islands with the Minister, and he took me out to Pitt Island, where he is working on a settlement with Moriori out on Pitt. He shows his passion for this drive by going to the outermost islands of our country to make this happen. He has demonstrated that through some 22 deeds of settlement that have been brought to the House in the last 4 years, which is absolutely fantastic. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003EBut let us not dwell on those settlements; today is about the Rongowhakaata settlement. I do not want to dwell on what other members have said. Clearly, your iwi, your hap\u016B had to go through unbelievable events in this country, in our history. I am proud, as the member from Heretaunga\u2014from Hawke\u2019s Bay\u2014just down the road from \u201CGizzy\u201D, to be able to stand in this House, to be part of the settlement process, and to acknowledge what took place historically and what we are now doing to reconcile, to see apologies made, and for some form of redress to be made going forward. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003EI will talk just briefly about that redress, and also touch on what my colleague across the House said about our history and how important I believe it is that it is taught in schools going forward, because it was not something that Charles or I were taught. I think, particularly locally, I am encouraging my children to understand what happened, certainly in Ahuriri and Heretaunga, and I think there is an obligation further up, in Gisborne, for schools up there to understand what happened at Ng\u0101tapa P\u0101. Clearly, it is something that for all of us is not a fine time in our history\u2014that is for sure. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003EThe whakatauk\u012B I used at the start of my speech\u2014my whaik\u014Drero\u2014today talks about a new dawn, a touch of frost, the commencement of a glorious new era. I guess that is essentially what we are trying to achieve. We are not going to solve all of the issues or be able to address everything, but I think this is an outstanding effort by the Crown and iwi to come together in a partnership and to go forward. In that regard, I encourage you as an iwi to make the very most of this opportunity. I think there are wonderful opportunities to be able to become even more a part of the Poverty Bay economic base up there, and to drive real change as a result of this settlement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003EWithout any further ado, it is a privilege to be here, and I acknowledge once again Mr Finlayson, members across the House who have played a role in this, and particularly the iwi, who are here today. I will close by repeating that whakatauk\u012B, because this is a new era, a new dawn for Rongowhakaata. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003EWhakataka te hau ki te uru, whakataka te hau ki te tonga. Kia m\u0101kinakina ki uta, kia m\u0101taratara ki tai. E h\u012B ake ana te at\u0101kura, he tio, he huka, he hauhunga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003E[Cease the winds from the west, cease the winds from the south. Let the breezes blow over the land, let the breezes blow over the ocean. Let the red-tipped dawn come with a sharpened air, a touch of frost, and a promise of a glorious day.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003EWaiata \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221368ba6c-25be-40f6-a2a0-8f81e1f78b79\u0022\u003EKaranga\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002247781382da4d470ebeeee16351c510b2\u0022\u003ENgai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00226b79bcc1c9824febb6602c2cb66ead88\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022 data-id=\u0022d2aad1e4f10e4caab741d6fca12d7f0f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d2aad1e4f10e4caab741d6fca12d7f0f\u0022\u003EHon TARIANA TURIA (Minister for Wh\u0101nau Ora)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations: I move, That the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time. E rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113nei te mi\u2019i ki a koutou i runga i te kaupapa o te r\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 rangatira o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, k\u0101tahi an\u014D te Whare P\u0101remata nei kia w\u2019akanui i te pire nei. He h\u014Dnore m\u014Dku kia t\u016B hei kaik\u014Drero m\u014D t\u0113nei, te p\u0101nuitanga mutunga o te pire. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003E[I greet you, leaders of a hundredfold, in respect of the matter of the day. Salutations to you, the leaders of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. This Parliament House has at last celebrated this bill, which I deem it an honour to speak to in this, its final reading. Acknowledgments, salutations, and congratulations to you all.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EThe Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill will settle finally the historical Treaty of Waitangi claims of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. The third reading of this bill brings to an end a day of great sadness and loss as the enduring memories of descendants have resonated throughout this Chamber. We have wept with them as we have traversed over the history we share. The loss extends beyond the tribal boundaries to also reflect on the health of our nationhood. The settlement stories have impacted on the rule of law, the definition of just and good settlement, and the protection of M\u0101ori mana motuhake. In all these principles and the failures of the Crown to live up to that ideal, it goes to the surface of our capacity to live up to the promise of the Treaty. These settlement bills, therefore, become a benchmark for all New Zealanders to assess the progress that we have achieved since the signing of Te Tiriti o Waitangi in 1840. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003ENgai T\u0101manuhiri\u2019s settlement part stretches back 20 years. Today those in the public gallery and all of us below reflect on those who are not with us, those who have worked tirelessly on Ngai T\u0101manuhiri\u2019s claims and who are not here to witness this day. The rohe that forms the home of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri extends from K\u014Dpututea, down the coastline over Wharerata Forest to Parit\u016B, and from Parit\u016B the area extends inland towards Lake Waikaremoana. It is a beautiful part of the world, an exquisite tribal sanctuary. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EUp until 1865 Ngai T\u0101manuhiri had full control of their lands and resources. The people were participating successfully in the New Zealand economy and, indeed, the sun shone brightly for the people of this eastern coast. When war broke out in other regions Ngai T\u0101manuhiri remained neutral, including when fighting came close to home in 1865. Into this peaceful haven, then, the Crown\u2019s attack on Waerenga a Hika is inexplicable. There was no need to use military force in T\u016Branga. The military forces took part in indiscriminate looting. Those attacks contributed to acute food shortages, which in themselves caused loss of life. On top of that, the detention of some Ngai T\u0101manuhiri on Wharekauri inflicted unwarranted hardship on them and their w\u2019anau. It was wrongful, it was unwarranted, it was unjust, it was a breach of natural justice, and it was a breach of Te Tiriti o Waitangi. Well over a century later, in 1992, Eric John T\u016Bpai Ruru, T\u016Btekawa Wyllie, and Peter Gordon lodged a claim with the Waitangi Tribunal on behalf of Te Aitanga-a-M\u0101haki, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, and Rongowhakaata, referred to as Wai 283. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EThe Minister in an earlier speech referred to settlements as going to the very heart of our nation, and it is in the process of telling our stories, documenting our truths, and outlining our experience that we come anywhere close to the prospect of reconciliation. The Crown\u2019s relation with Ngai T\u0101manuhiri has involved some of the darkest episodes in the country\u2019s history, and that sense of grief and loss suffered by, and the impact on, this iwi remains with us all, but more particularly so, of course, for the iwi, who are represented here today. It is a tragic tale of mass executions, of land loss, and of the extinguishment of customary interests, leading to the erosion of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri\u2019s traditional tribal structures. As a direct consequence Ngai T\u0101manuhiri have lived with poorer housing, lower educational achievements, and worse health than any other New Zealanders, yet, despite this painful history, they have made a significant contribution to the wealth and development of the nation, and have at all times graciously honoured their Treaty obligations and responsibilities. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EIn particular, the settlement pays tribute to Ngai T\u0101manuhiri\u2019s contribution to the defence of the nation. Knowing even as little as we do of the injustices that this iwi have suffered at the hands of the Crown, we cannot help but be overwhelmed by the spirit of generosity that they have shown the nation in having faith in working with the Crown on this settlement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EI want to be very clear for the record that in this settlement today, the Crown is deeply sorry that it has failed until now to address the injustices in an appropriate manner. The Crown sincerely apologises for its many failures to respect Ngai T\u0101manuhiri mana and to protect them from being left virtually landless and economically marginalised. We all hope that this settlement will provide a foundation for this tribe and the Crown to move forward in a spirit of cooperation, mutual benefit, and trust. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EI move, therefore, to some of the detail in the deed of settlement signed in March 2011 by the Hon Chris Finlayson with N\u0101 Rongowhakaata Raihania and Hope Ng\u0101 Taare T\u016Bpara as trustees of the T\u0101manuhiri Tutu Poroporo Trust. The settlement facilitates the transfer of Young Nick\u2019s Head National Historic Reserve, and endorses the name change to Te Kuri a Paoa. It will enable Ngai T\u0101manuhiri to purchase Te Wherowhero Lagoon. They will be a 50 percent shareholder in the Wharerata Forest. There is funding for cultural revitalisation, and there is a clear commitment to relationship redress with Crown agencies. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EIt was pleasing to see a letter from Mayor Meng Foon stating that the council is keen to help advance and support the mana motuhake of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, recognising that the flow-on benefits will also extend to all of Te Tai R\u0101whiti. I want to extend those flow-on benefits wider across the land, because we all benefit from these settlements, both M\u0101ori and P\u0101keh\u0101 alike.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EThe Crown apology in the legislation states that \u201CThe Crown seeks to restore its honour and reputation as a Treaty partner and atone for its past failures to uphold\u201D Te Tiriti o Waitangi. As part of the journey moving forward, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri are working with other T\u016Branga iwi to establish a memorial to commemorate members of those iwi who lost their lives at the hands of the Crown. It will provide a sombre reminder to all of Aotearoa of the history that has shaped our sense of selves. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2dfe169-d946-4f87-8d43-0bcdb7d8bebc\u0022\u003EI want to conclude this today with a w\u2019akatauk\u012B that the Waitangi Tribunal used in its report Turanga Tangata Turanga Whenua: \u201CW\u2019akamoea ng\u0101 maunga, kia w\u2019\u0101nau ko te pai.\u201D\u2014only good can result when great mountains are joined. How can we as a country come together and bring our shared aspirations for Treaty justice? How do tangata whenua and tangata Tiriti work in the spirit of collaboration to build a strong basis for nationhood? The constitutional review that has taken place is but one opportunity. It is a very important concept for all of us to ponder. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022 data-id=\u002244ef6a2e1b054c9a96fb28bf4336e630\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002244ef6a2e1b054c9a96fb28bf4336e630\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe. Te pai o te rangi nei e te Kaiwhakahaere o te Whare nei, ko te tae tata atu t\u0101tau ki te otinga o te h\u012Bkoi roroa atu o t\u0113nei rangi. I a koutou o te hau k\u0101inga, T\u0101manuhiri, e mihi kau ana, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E tae kaha atu koutou tata ana ki o whanaunga tata ki te w\u0101hi nei o te Whare M\u012Bere, te w\u0101hi e mahi atu ng\u0101 tangata o te Karauna ki a koutou. E tautokotia atu ng\u0101 whakaaro o te tuahine a T\u0101riana, ko te tukuna o te whenua, ko te t\u0101hae hoki o te katoa o te whenua \u0101 koutou mai i te Karauna. N\u014D reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E te matua Noel, e mihi kau ana ki a koe, ki a r\u0101tou i roto i t\u014D t\u0101tou r\u014Dp\u016B kaha, rua tekau ma waru, t\u0113n\u0101 koe m\u014D t\u0113n\u0101. Mai i t\u014D haerenga mai i Muriwai, tae atu ki te pakanga, hoki ora atu ki te k\u0101inga, i konei k\u0113 koe t\u0113n\u0101 koe m\u014D t\u0113n\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI a koutou ng\u0101 mea pakeke o te k\u0101inga, e rongo atu t\u0101tou, e kite atu t\u0101tou i te mahi i roto i a T\u0101manuhiri, i a Rongowhakaata, \u014Drite atu ki a koutou, e m\u014Dhio atu koutou i te mamae, ng\u0101 nawe e puta ana mai i te mahi o ng\u0101 h\u014Dia, n\u014D reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou n\u0101 te mea, he nui atu ng\u0101 whakaaro i roto i a t\u0101tou m\u014D te mahi kino i a T\u0101manuhiri, he mahi kino, he mahi taurekareka, tera ano te mahi ki a ratou \u0113ngari, e kaha ana r\u0101tou hei ora atu, n\u014D reira t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou. E te tuahine, e Tariana, kia kaha.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E[Thank you. The good thing about this day, Mr Speaker of this House, is that the long journey to this day is nearly over. To you, the locals, Ng\u0101i T\u0101manuhiri, I acknowledge you in your efforts to get here in respect of your close relationships to this place, the Beehive, where people of the Crown work with you. I endorse the views of fellow colleague Tariana in respect of how land is offered and how all your lands were also stolen by the Crown. So congratulations. To you, the elder Noel, I acknowledge you, and them as well, in that mighty group of ours, the 28th Battalion. Congratulations on your involvement. You came from Muriwai, went to war, returned home alive, and here you are now. I commend you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003ETo all you elders of home, we heard and saw what happened to the people of Ng\u0101i T\u0101manuhiri and Rongowhakaata. It was the same with you. You experienced the pain and concerns that resulted from the actions of the soldiers, so I salute you all, because we have many views about the atrocities experienced by T\u0101manuhiri\u2014it was bad stuff, it was belittling, but they were resilient and survived these ordeals, so I acknowledge us all. Be resolute, sister colleague Tariana.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EN\u0101 te mea, because this is my last chance to talk today from this side, I thought I would embellish, understanding that my relations from Ngai T\u0101manuhiri will always have my support and our support. I want to mihi to my whanaunga N\u0101 Rongowhakaata Raih\u0101nia, and everybody else up there. Kia ora koutou. He was 50 the other day. He looks like Tau Henare. Kia ora t\u0101tou. Happy birthday. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EAs Minister Turia pointed out, to cede all of their land through ungracious actions of the Crown is something that makes the mind boggle. I mean, just imagine half these dairy farmers losing their land today. That is what we should do as a Crown: take their land off them. What is wrong with that, Mr Finlayson? Take half the farms away from them; give those farms to the Chinese. Take those farms off them and give them to these people. That is exactly what happened here. That is the reality. That is what happened. They took the land off them. They had no say. If you have ever been to Muriwai, my cousin Fuchsia went over there and lived there. I am not too sure what she was doing there, but she always said it was paradise. If you go to Muriwai they have still got the old trees growing, their whare is strong, they feed you like billy-o, and they are great people. They are great people. Barney Whaitiri always said that the water that laps here will always sustain us, like our whakapapa did. Those people have passed on\u2014a lot of them\u2014Toko and all of those kaum\u0101tua who are not here today. But they have seen fit to come down here. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EI want to talk over a couple of the issues in relation to the settlement. I see there is a Crown mineral protocol in this function, I say to the Minister of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations\u2014very interesting. I hope they strike gold.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f962cef1ed0e47acae220fbdbdf3a86f\u0022\u003EHon Christopher Finlayson\u003C/span\u003E: Ha, ha!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ead60d850b44463bba69c3e6de53c5b3\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: I am not laughing; I am serious. I hope they do.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224e7690f73d934f1cbf5bddeb4d4d269b\u0022\u003EHon Tau Henare\u003C/span\u003E: But the Greens say no.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225835edca9a6543bfbde0d6d7e19b4fff\u0022\u003EHon PAREKURA HOROMIA\u003C/span\u003E: I do not care what the Greens think or you think; I hope they strike whatever and that it is put in real context, that it is not given to them and then taken away. The Minister knows I have been on his case for a fair while. He is going to end up a sir, I think, some time. But, you know, all these Government agencies and these protocols\u2014whether it is Work and Income or Child, Youth and Family or the Department of Conservation, which is in here. The Department of Conservation is always in here. I found it very interesting. When you get to the summary, what does it say? I will read you what it says: \u201CIs there any private land being transferred? No. \u2026 Are the public\u2019s rights affected? No. \u2026 What are Statutory Acknowledgments?\u201D. There are not too many of them, but they are relevant to the Resource Management Act. There are a lot of noes in here from a group of people who never even had an answer\u2014yes or no\u2014and took everything. The deed of settlement is $11.07 million plus interest, and the value of the cultural redress is getting there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E I think that with this claim, building on what the Minister for Wh\u0101nau Ora, Tariana Turia, said, there has to be more than just a sign-off. As Tau Henare said, let us get on with the business. This puts right a terrible wrong, and for me it is a wonderful day to celebrate. That is why I want this. There is not one of those monsters up there, and they will most probably see me on TV. You are not supposed to say anything bad about the press. It makes me bloody sick that all they are talking about is M\u0101ori being mad, bad, and sad, and Tau Henare smoking. We are a lot better than that\u2014yes, we are. M\u0101ori is a lot smarter than that. These people have stood the worst of the worst, in the sense of losing all their lands, and they go home. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThe irony is that when the coloniser came, and that little, short P\u0101keh\u0101 fella, or British fella, jumped up and said: \u201CLand ahoy!\u201D, it was the first place in New Zealand they saw. You would not believe it, the way they have been treated. I say that seriously, not because they are here but because we need to be reminded about that, and that it needs to be talked about. I know that the two Ministers sitting over there, the Minister for Wh\u0101nau Ora and the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, were listening intently and bring some real credence to these partnerships, and that is one thing the Minister and I agree on. It is no good writing out these protocols and these charters that say: \u201CBe kind to them, DOC. Be good to them, LINZ. Be kind to them, TPK.\u201D, and have nothing come of it. That is what seems to be happening. So, Minister Finlayson, again, I would encourage you to keep an eye on it. If you do not want to use Tariana or somebody else, you get me. I will keep an eye on it for you. What happens in the continuation is a serious part of progress. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThe sums here, as much as they have agreed to them, are but a pittance in relation to what was done. The land deal in relation to the forestry\u2014that they get 50 percent and 50 percent is kept\u2014is another issue. I am glad that the funds go with it, but even in the sense of giving them the forestry and the purchase requirements, just from my quick reading, it seems to be a bit rich. I want to say that again, Minister, and I have been professing and offering you a whole lot of support.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EHere is a very important one, because we ain\u2019t quite there yet in finalising this. I notice in there that Young Nick\u2019s Head is renamed Te Kur\u012B a Paoa / Young Nick\u2019s Head. It has been like that for 100-odd-plus bloody years as Young Nick\u2019s Head. Why not get rid of it and name it Te Kur\u012B a Paoa? What is this \u201Cslash\u201D business? I do not know whether iwi agreed to it or not, but seriously, what is that about? I have brought that up before\u2014\u201CTe Kur\u012B a Paoa / Keep Everybody Else Happy / Young Nick\u2019s Head\u201D. Rubbish! I know the Minister agrees with me. Chris Finlayson does not really care about that. But it is right. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EYou know, everybody wants to talk about young K\u0101hui, and that is a dastardly, ugly deed: he patu w\u0101hine, he patu tangata [killing women and men]. No doubt about it. We participate in that and so do P\u0101keh\u0101. But the way it carries on in the press is that that is all we are\u2014mad, bad, and sad. [Bell rung] Mr Speaker, you can ring the bell all you like, but I will tell you this. I do not want to leave here today knowing what will happen, and what has happened in a whole lot of other settlements. They have said: \u201CWe signed a charter with them. We signed a fisheries charter. We signed a Crown minerals charter.\u201D, and nothing, t\u012Btoi, nothing out of it\u2014nothing. That is a fact. I trust you, Minister, to do the right thing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EThat thing about that sewage\u2014these are the people who get it. That water laps on them. But I have to say it is a damn irony, after 150-odd years. I was privileged enough to go up to the signing at the reserve. Like I said, I wanted to walk but they put me in a helicopter with the Minister and we got up there. I was privileged to be there. There was a conservationist American who got the land, at the end of the day. But at the end of the day this is not about keeping the other people happy; this is about putting something right that was terribly wrong in this country, and, certainly, we should be better than that as politicians and not just rise up when M\u0101oris break a window in a shop or piss against a wall, or something like that, because that is what makes the news. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EAt the end of the day, I would certainly want to suggest strongly that Ngai T\u0101manuhiri are given every support as they go through. The deal is the deal\u2014great. Whether it is the land they have got to purchase, the forestry shares, or whatever else, they need a lot of help\u2014ongoing help. It is not too easy to understand that the costs shoot up. There were no costs to the people who took them. They took it, and they created wealth out of it. There has been no analysis of that. It is really critical, in my mind at least, that we send them away understanding that they will be supported and cherished. Kia ora t\u0101tou. T\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D te mea i roto i \u0101ku m\u014D te rangi nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003E[So acknowledgments to us. That is what I have in me about this day.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d52e59e3-2195-4c95-a654-665c11b39b63\u0022\u003EIt has been a great day for M\u0101ori to celebrate. On the M\u0101ori calendar it is supposed to be a good day for fishing and a good day for getting k\u016Bmara ready for this party season. But this day should be remembered as the one when we did these four Treaty settlements together, and we got a thing put right, as well as we could as politicians, and it is something we should celebrate. Do not give me this nationhood building thing and not show up to support it. Kia ora t\u0101tou. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u00225d0056b1279845eab490235909bf193b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225d0056b1279845eab490235909bf193b\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Speaker, and t\u0113n\u0101 koutou to our guests in the gallery. Parekura Horomia has done that to me all day. He has upstaged me right throughout the course of the debate, but always, as you know with Mr Horomia, for the best of reasons. I really welcome all those who are in the gallery\u2014those of you who have travelled from T\u016Branga-nui-a-Kiwa to join us on this very important occasion. I especially recognise that great rangatira, Nolan Raih\u0101nia, whose immense contribution to our country, through his service in the 28th M\u0101ori Battalion, I greatly admire. I see him grinning up there. He gets very embarrassed when I mention him, but he deserves all the accolades that he receives, because he is a great New Zealander. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EAs is very clear, this bill, the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill, settles the historic grievances of this iwi. The Crown acknowledges and formally apologises for its breaches of the Treaty of Waitangi, offers an apology, and there are various forms of redress, which Mrs Turia has mentioned and I am not going to repeat them in my speech. But this day has indeed been a long time coming. The claims were first made to the Waitangi Tribunal 20 years ago, in 1992. The claims were inquired into by the tribunal, and it reported in 2004. It is well established that the grievances that it found, the breaches of the Treaty, were very serious indeed. Ngai T\u0101manuhiri entered negotiations with the Crown in 2005, as part of the collective of T\u016Branga-nui-a-Kiwa iwi, and in September 2008 signed the agreement in principle.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E It is one of those unfortunate things that from the agreement in principle to deed of settlement, the journey is sometimes very long, because in the deed of settlement all the details have to be finalised, whereas in the agreement in principle, it can be a fairly generalised document. There has been a lot of work\u2014an enormous amount of work\u2014between September 2008 and March 2011. It was a wonderful day, a Saturday morning, when Mr Horomia and I and other officials\u2014Mrs Turia was there as well\u2014were at that beautiful marae south of Gisborne, Muriwai Marae, to sign the deed of settlement. As Mr Horomia said, it was a very special day, because we began it by helicoptering up to the top of the point and initialling the deed of settlement, and then we came down, and the actual signing was on the marae. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EAs I said in my second reading speech last week, it was the first time I had ever done it as Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, but I read out the full acknowledgement and the apology. One was aware that it was a very eerie sort of feeling in the grounds of the marae. I said to Mrs Turia: \u201CWhat is going on?\u201D and she said people were weeping. That is perhaps why I get very angry when I hear people diminish these settlements as mere \u201Cdeals\u201D, in some kind of supercilious manner. They are anything but deals; they are very important acts that we enter into\u2014that the Crown and iwi enter into\u2014in order to resolve these matters that plague our past, so that we can get on with life. It was a very special day, and I want to thank, publicly, the iwi for that day and for the way in which they have negotiated with me over the last 4 years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIn this settlement, as I said, the Crown acknowledges a number of breaches. Some mention, in the context of Rongowhakaata, was made by Mr Tirikatene about the men not being tried in accordance with the standards of justice that people were entitled to, and then they were imprisoned in harsh conditions on the Chatham Islands for more than 2 years. Mr Tirikatene marvelled at how the good men of Rongowhakaata managed to escape, and the same principle applies to Ngai T\u0101manuhuri. I have to say that I still marvel at it myself. I was over in the Chathams a few weeks ago, and Mr Tremain and I jumped in a crayfish boat to go down from \u014Cwenga on the south coast of the Chatham Island over to Pitt Island. It is fair to say\u2014and it was a reasonably pleasant day\u2014that the journey could be described as interesting. So I have no doubt at all that the courage and the determination of those men of Ngai T\u0101manuhuri to get back to T\u016Branga-nui-a-Kiwa was truly, truly impressive. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe other breach that I particularly want to refer to is the act of the Crown in returning land, and then promoting legislation that basically gave ownership of the land to individuals rather than to the collective, undermining the ability of the iwi to maintain its property. That is why undertakings that have been given in the Crown deed by acknowledgments and apologies are absolutely important and necessary. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EMr Horomia, being the good local MP that he is for Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti, raised a number of points about sewage spewing out into the bay and affecting the iwi and the general population of the area. One important body that is established through this settlement is the local leadership board. I refer him to clause 43 of the bill. The purpose of this board, which will be made up of all the iwi in the area and also the local authorities, is to \u201Ccontribute to the sustainable management of the natural and physical resources in the \u2026 area for the use and enjoyment of \u2026 future generations, while recognising and providing for the traditional relationship of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, [and other iwi] with their ancestral lands, water, sites, w\u0101hi tapu\u201D areas, and so on. I hope that that body, which is a permanent committee and must not be discharged without the agreement of the specified appointers in the council, will be able to start to address some of these matters. Mr Horomia has very eloquently spoken this afternoon as well about the absolute need, following the passage of this legislation, for the Crown to live up to its commitments. This is not a one-off, warm feelings situation. This creates a new relationship, and there are ongoing obligations that will need to be addressed. He and I have talked about ways in which that could be done, and I very much appreciate his contribution. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThis is a historic milestone for Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. The deed was the first settlement agreed between the Crown and an iwi from T\u016Branga, where the Crown committed some very serious Treaty breaches, and I agree with all those speakers who have said today, and throughout the course of the four debates, that it is important that people know something about what happened. It is a shame that the media, which are quite happy to report the more contentious aspects of House business, have not bothered to be here today to listen to some of this debate, because it is very important. I acknowledge all those officials with whom I have worked over the years. The Office of Treaty Settlements officials worked very hard on these matters. They are not \u201Cnine-to-fivers\u201D at all. In fact, I was in the office the day we initialled the deed of settlement at about 12.30 in the morning, because Paul James, the former director, had phoned me, and wanted me to talk to the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri representatives about one or two matters. That is the level of commitment that I have received from the Office of Treaty Settlements. I acknowledge Mr Horomia, I acknowledge my friends in the M\u0101ori Party who have worked so closely with me on this, and I acknowledge my other ministerial colleagues. It is a great day; a great day for Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. It is not the end of it. It is the beginning of a new relationship\u2014a very positive one. I salute you for all you do, and look forward to working with you in the years to come. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022 data-id=\u00226fe324a502924207878b353255b7664e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226fe324a502924207878b353255b7664e\u0022\u003ERINO TIRIKATENE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Tonga):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te Kaiwhakamana, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou e te Whare, ia ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata o ng\u0101 pari e m\u0101 r\u0101, e Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Nau mai, haere mai, whakatau mai ki te P\u0101remata e takat\u016B nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker, and greetings to you, the House, and indeed those people from yonder white cliffs, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, salutations and greetings to you collectively. Welcome, draw closer to Parliament standing here ready, acknowledgments to you and to us all.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI am delighted to stand and make my contribution on this, the final passage of the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill. As a new member, it has been a thrill actually being a member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee to follow the passage of this bill right the way through to the House, from the first reading, select committee hearings, second reading, and now to this final reading. So it is a steep learning curve for me. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EBeing the member for Te Tai Tonga, there is actually a connection, in addition to the Ng\u0101i Tahu whakapapa connection that we share with our Tahu P\u014Dtiki and our whanaunga here in Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. There is also a common connection, because our whanaunga there, T\u016Btekawa Wyllie, was also the member for Te Tai Tonga a few elections back. So we do share many things in common. But I am delighted to be speaking at this stage. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EWe have heard this afternoon about the shared history that Ngai T\u0101manuhiri share with Rongowhakaata. Therefore, the Crown\u2019s breaches of the Treaty, its acknowledgments, and its apologies as set out in this bill are very, very similar and aligned to the same breaches that occurred to Rongowhakaata, when I think of the attacks at Waerenga a Hika, the loss of life at Ng\u0101tapa, and the tensions that were over there on Wharekauri. So you cannot differentiate the two. The two iwi were part of all of those atrocities, so it is appropriate that they are acknowledged, they are recorded in this bill, in the deed of settlement, and flowing through now into the passage of this legislation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EWe know that the redress that is offered, and that is part of the package that we are putting through today, does not compensate for the loss that has been inflicted on these iwi for many generations, but as Minister Finlayson noted, this is a step forward. This is a beginning, and we have seen it happening right across the motu for the past 30-odd years in terms of the modern-day Treaty settlement process. So this is a very hallmark occasion for Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI have had the pleasure of working with Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, when I was with Ng\u0101i Tahu. I am thinking of a settlement in a different context, and that was in the fisheries context. I acknowledge the close association that Ngai T\u0101manuhiri has had with Ng\u0101i Tahu, and, in particular, the Treaty Tribes Coalition, and the support and the whanaungatanga that I had the privilege of being amongst and working with in the years when I was there\u2014and it is still strong today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThere are many elements to these settlements, as my colleagues have spoken about. I would just like to pick up on what my matua Parekura mentioned, about how disappointed we are in some aspects of these settlements. We know that the Crown has vast assets as its disposal\u2014all the king\u2019s horses and all the king\u2019s men you can muster, and write out a $1.7 billion cheque to bail out some investors in a failed finance company when you really have to; when it really wants to. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI just want to say how disappointed I am in that the arrangements in some of our Treaty settlements could go a lot further. I look at the arrangements of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, and it is great that we have had the recognition of the mana of Te Kur\u012B a Paoa / Young Nick\u2019s Head, but I prefer Te Kur\u012B a Paoa. But for this wh\u0101nau here to go and visit their w\u0101hi tapu they have to seek permission from the American owner of the surrounding adjacent lands. That is not good enough. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThere are too many examples of M\u0101ori magnanimity\u2014that is a word that my tuahine Nanaia was speaking about this afternoon. There are too many examples of magnanimity in Treaty redresses these days. So receiving back our sacred mountains and our islands for a period of 24 hours, and then having to re-gift them to the people of New Zealand, smacks of paternalism and an unwillingness to fully acknowledge the wrong. I would just like to encourage this Minister and in all future Treaty settlement processes that the Crown really does make an effort to make sure that there is full recognition of the mana of the owners of those w\u0101hi tapu sites such as Te Kur\u012B a Paoa, and many others that will be coming through in Treaty settlements that are yet to come through this House. I would like to think that the Crown can also be adventurous and maybe look at having a chat with the American landowners, arranging a round of golf, or having a few drinks, but coming up with a solution where everyone\u2019s mana is enhanced, and that the end result will be never again having to ask permission to visit Te Kur\u012B a Paoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EWe have seen in other elements the gifting of the right to purchase back the Pakowhai Scenic Reserve and other very important w\u0101hi tapu sites. Again, it would be good to see, in terms of future settlements, more commitment and more going back to the actual mana whenua and the aggrieved Treaty partner. Yes, the acknowledgments and the apologies are vitally important, and it would be good to see some more measures being taken whereby some more control and rangatiratanga can actually go back to the mana whenua for their sacred sites. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThis is a defining moment for Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, but also I think it is a step forward, and we are looking at economic development opportunities that will flow on through these settlements. I wish Ngai T\u0101manuhiri all the best in terms of their future activities and their aspirations. I know they are highly skilled and a very well-organised iwi, and they have got some very talented people in their midst. I look forward to seeing what is going to happen in the T\u016Branga region when we look at the likes of our recapitalised iwi: Rongowhakaata, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, Mahaki to come, and also the various land incorporation interests in that region. I am sure that will be a driving force for the T\u016Branga region in the coming years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThis is our final bill for the day. I am delighted that I have been able to make this contribution right the way through the process through this House. I would just like to conclude by mihi-ing once again to the wh\u0101nau of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri who have travelled all the way down here to support this day. I think of all the people on the claims committees and the researchers, and a 20-year process that has gone from tribunal hearings right through negotiations with the Crown, all the way through to a deed of settlement, and then a long passage through the House right up to this stage here. So I thank you. My colleague Charles mentioned the gratitude that we have for your partnership with the Crown through this process. We are looking forward to seeing what that future will hold beyond the passage of this bill. So I mihi to you all. Kia ora an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022 data-id=\u0022b442f35eee504bc2aab90d0dc8372269\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b442f35eee504bc2aab90d0dc8372269\u0022\u003ECATHERINE DELAHUNTY (Green):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Speaker, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou te Whare P\u0101remata. He mihi ki Te Wiki o Te Reo M\u0101ori, Te Reo Rangatira. He mihi nui ki ng\u0101 iwi, hap\u016B, wh\u0101nau o T\u016Branga-nui-a-Kiwa, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri me Rongowhakaata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker, and salutations to you, collectively, of Parliament House. I applaud M\u0101ori Language Week, the Chiefly Language, and greatly appreciate the tribes, subtribes, and families of Gisborne, Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, and Rongowhakaata.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EBefore I speak about the Greens\u2019 support for the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill I would like to address Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and their negotiating team in particular. There is an English whakatauk\u012B \u201CFools rush in where angels fear to tread\u201D, and I would like to apply that to my second reading speech, which contained unmandated inferences for which I apologise wholeheartedly. My speech stepped over the line in terms of representation issues, and no one from Ngai T\u0101manuhiri asked me to do that. I therefore express my regret and my respects to those of you who are here today from Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and those who were unable to travel, who are here in spirit. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EBut to return to the third reading of this bill, which the Green Party is happy to support, this is a significant moment in the history of Aotearoa New Zealand. Ngai T\u0101manuhiri have travelled down the long coast to be here, and the Green Party wants to pay respects for the long years of waiting and the long years of work. After more than 100 years of marginalisation, including major losses of whenua, detention without trial, and summary executions in the 1860s, which created unimaginable suffering and ongoing poverty, there was, I believe, more than 20 years of hard work and struggle on this claim to reach this point, and therefore it is time to celebrate your mahi and what has been achieved.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EMy partner, Gordon Jackman, grandson of Doris Black of Muriwai, was the archaeologist working on a small part of the preparation for this day, and is unable to be here, but we both feel deeply the privilege of the opportunities of learning a little about the history of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and their rohe. The local opportunity from this settlement is the building of stronger relationships, the Anzac commemoration events, and the collective work on Te Wherowhero Lagoon, which is part of this agreement. These are foundations, and we are hopeful that P\u0101k\u014Dwhai Scenic Reserve can also become part of the building of those local relationships, which make Te Tiriti a reality not just in law but in the hearts and minds. The commitment to Ngai T\u0101manuhiri having an enhanced participation in resource management processes in their rohe will also benefit everyone in Te Tai R\u0101whiti. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000436\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EEarly today the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations spoke of the truly unique aspect of every Treaty claim process, and this is so powerfully true of the matters at the heart of this bill. Part of the maunga Te Kur\u012B a Paoa is a reserve that is now vested in Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, and named Te Kur\u012B a Paoa / Young Nick\u2019s Head. When the white sails came over the horizon and saw those white cliffs, everything occurred from that moment and has led to this moment and to the necessity for justice and redress. Naming is so important, and the Green Party supports names as expressions of dual heritage, but we believe that dual heritage must be fully acknowledged by both parties, not just the iwi, for healing to really take place. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000437\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThe struggles over Te Kur\u012B a Paoa have been long, and the Green Party wishes to acknowledge the importance of this maunga, which the late Rod Donald MP, our first co-leader, visited in 2002 to tautoko the efforts for the maunga to be recognised as tangata whenua land, and the first place where the cultures sighted each other. In 2002 another winter h\u012Bkoi started walking to Wellington, supported by some people who are no longer with us. P\u0101keh\u0101 and tangata Tiriti katoa have reason to appreciate the gift Ngai T\u0101manuhiri have given the nation in their staunch upholding of the significance of Te Kur\u012B a Paoa to us all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000438\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThe redress in this agreement will also allow the implementation of some dreams and plans regarding the Wharerata Forest and w\u0101hi tapu, the cultural economic future of tamariki mokopuna. Again, we all benefit from this, although, like others in the House, the Greens would like to see a larger quantum in this agreement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000439\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThe one comment the Green Party would add to this and to all claims is the need for the K\u0101wanatanga to resource the education of P\u0101keh\u0101 and tangata Tiriti katoa, because our role is to make sure the work done by the iwi themselves, the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, and the Minister is recognised and understood by all as a living history that we are all part of, so it can reach its liberating potential from the grievous history of colonisation, which Ngai T\u0101manuhiri and iwi katoa have all suffered. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000440\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E I would just like to finish by congratulating Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. The Green Party supports your ongoing leadership and your rangatiratanga. Earlier today David Clendon MP spoke about truth and reconciliation, as well as Treaty settlement. I support his words and those of Metiria Turei, that this needs to happen at a local and national level and it is time for P\u0101keh\u0101 katoa to step up on those issues. But in the meantime, just let me say that it has been a privilege to have been connected in a small way with the journey, and to have lived within your rohe. I am humbled to have met you all. Kia ora koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022 data-id=\u00220b8a86d205424155892c40bfc492b121\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000441\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220b8a86d205424155892c40bfc492b121\u0022\u003EJONATHAN YOUNG (National\u2014New Plymouth):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe. E ng\u0101 reo, e ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 hau e wh\u0101; ko Jonathan Young taku ingoa. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E[Greetings to you. To the languages, authorities and four winds; my name is Jonathan Young. Greetings, salutations, and acknowledgments to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000443\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EIt is my great pleasure and privilege to be able to stand in support of, and speak on, this third reading of the bill for Ngai T\u0101manuhiri, the Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill. Before I speak I just want to extend the apologies of Mrs Tolley, who cannot be here today because she is unwell. She would love to have been here to acknowledge this day with you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000444\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EI want to bring my thoughts round to my colleague\u2019s comments\u2014my colleague from the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee\u2014regarding Te Kur\u012B a Paoa slash Young Nick\u2019s Head. I think that was a very interesting and forthright comment that the honourable member Horomia brought out. We all know the European history. Nicholas Young was a sailor on Captain\u2019s Cook ship on his first voyage here. He was just a young boy and he was a stowaway on the Endeavour. He sighted Young Nick\u2019s Head, as it was called because of that sighting by him\u2014but it was also called Te Kur\u012B a Paoa\u2014on 7 October 1769.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000445\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EI remember when as a young boy we would have holidays as a family on the East Coast, and, whether it be true or not, my mum and dad said to me that that boy, Nick Young, was one of our forebears\u2014we came from the Youngs. Look, I do not know whether it was true or not. Maybe it was one of those stories that a dad told his son. Maybe it was part of our mythology. But let me tell you how it made me feel, and how I now understand how you feel: it made me feel important. It made me feel that this was a place of beginning. It made me feel that here was a significant place that I had attachment to. That is from a P\u0101keh\u0101. How much more, how much more, for you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000446\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003ESo I want to talk about the slash, because the slash is not a cut to the heart. The slash is the joining of peoples. It is like you would take, for example, two branches and you would graft them together. In order to do that, to make a living people, a living tree, there is a slash\u2014there is a cut. So my thought to you today is that I know what you are saying, honourable member, but perhaps there is also another way to look at it, because if we can resolve our past, and build our future together as New Zealanders in Aotearoa, and have a future, and I know that the redress never measures up to what was lost, it is something that you can take and you can move forward with.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000447\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003ESo it has been a long, long time, and we have come to this place, come to this afternoon. My hope and my prayer is that from this day forward you will find increased strength, you will find increased resolve, and you will find increased ability to feel the mana, to feel the location and the reconnection, and that you will have some economic strength to build your future, and that together we will build this small nation into a great nation. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022 data-id=\u00229227b8a2b27e4dfeb1a0c44c5007f791\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000448\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229227b8a2b27e4dfeb1a0c44c5007f791\u0022\u003EBRENDAN HORAN (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E I would like to follow on from the comments of all of my colleagues who have gone before me, and to say what a fantastic day today is and how wonderful it is to be here. Earlier this morning I was leading the charge against those people who are not here, but then I thought, well, too bad about them, they are missing out\u2014they are missing out. All day amazing things have been spoken of, and amazing people have been here. I would like to acknowledge the kaum\u0101tua who are here\u2014all of you up there. I acknowledge how hard it has been for all of you to get here, but you are here, and you made the journey. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000449\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EIt is hard to mention people, but there are a lot of people, and I would like to say hello to Olive and Temple Isaacs. I would also like to acknowledge Nolan Raih\u0101nia from the M\u0101ori Battalion. In 1978 I worked in Whakat\u0101ne Hospital and I had the privilege of looking after George Raurina. George had been an interpreter with the M\u0101ori Battalion, and I was about to embark on a trip overseas to university in Canada, and he taught me all these different languages. His story is an amazing one. He is gone now, but Nolan represents all of those brave men that we lost, and how wonderful and what a privilege it is to have you here, Nolan. Kia ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EI would like to also follow on from the Hon Parekura Horomia and the Hon Chris Finlayson on the question of the sewage in Gisborne. I love the ocean. I have been involved in surf lifesaving, and from a very young age would always make the trek over to Gisborne to compete, to go surfing, or to go and plunder some of that p\u0101ua and kai moana that was there. I have paddled out there and seen that sewage coming up, and it is a disgrace. The fact that the Minister has said that he is prepared to look at that fills me with joy. It can no longer be swept under the carpet, and it must go to the front of the queue\u2014the cleaning up of that sewage. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EI would just like to speak a very small part on Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. This tribe is a small one, but one of prodigious strength and mana. T\u0101manuhiri\u2019s mountain or maunga, Te Kur\u012B a Paoa or Young Nicks Head, is there and it is there for all to see. As Parekura said earlier, that was the first thing Captain Cook\u2019s crew saw when they visited Aotearoa. I must say that 2019 is going to be a very interesting year, is it not, with the 250th anniversary of the sighting of your maunga by Europeans. Their waka, Horouta, rests in the lagoon at the base of Te Kur\u012B a Paoa. Although the T\u0101manuhiri people are relatively small in number, they are giant in their connections, and they closely whakapapa into Ngati Porou, Ng\u0101i Tahu, Rongowhakaata, and others. This ability to easily and cleverly communicate rose to the fore in negotiations. As well as their nimbleness shown in the move to settle first of the three T\u016Branga groups, there is also real elegance to the level of cultural links in the strands of the commercial redress afforded to T\u0101manuhiri in this Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill, with a package involving profound cultural threads. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003ESo congratulations to the negotiators. To those who have passed on but are here with us in spirit, salutations. And to all of those who have worked so hard for a positive outcome, thank you, thank you, and, again, thank you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003EToit\u016B te whenua, toit\u016B te tangata, toit\u016B te mana\u2014the land endures, the people prevail, the mana is secure. Kia kaha, kia m\u0101ia, kia manawanui. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002243684a4d-fb40-469a-8e63-cdd1e354b387\u0022\u003E[Be strong, be brave, be stout-hearted.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022 data-id=\u0022f263c5c66e0b4ad0a069f4d14c9d937e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000455\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f263c5c66e0b4ad0a069f4d14c9d937e\u0022\u003EHon TAU HENARE (National):\u003C/span\u003E Te mea tuatahi, kei a koutou aku rangatira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Mihi kau atu au ki te tuahine o taku hungarei e takoto mai r\u0101 i roto i te rohe o Ng\u0101ti Porou, i te marae o Awatere. N\u014D reira e Mere, haere atu r\u0101, haere atu r\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000456\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E[The first thing is to acknowledge my leaders; greetings to you, greetings to you, and greetings to you all. I pay a tribute to the sister of my mother-in-law lying in state there in the region of Ng\u0101ti Porou on the Awatere Marae. So farewell, Mary, farewell.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI have been given the privilege of winding up, so that sort of cuts out what I was going to say. I know it is a ploy by my mate over there, Parekura Horomia. I do want to pay salutations not only to our brilliant Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations and the Treaty negotiations team from the Office of Treaty Settlements but also to my colleagues on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, who I think have done a sterling job. I also want to pay due respect to the Hon Parekura Horomia, who back in the day, when he was a wee bit younger, used to come to my office as Minister of M\u0101ori Affairs. He would eat everything in the kitchen and leave nothing in the bar, but I tell the House and tell the nation that you could not get a better advocate for M\u0101ori. Quite frankly, the House has been well served by my colleague\u2019s time in the House and his advocacy. But we also had some discussions about how we thought the world should run. It was just like when my uncle used to come to our house and talk to my old man until about 4 o\u2019clock in the morning, and they would basically solve the world\u2019s problems as well. It must be a trait of M\u0101ori to go through that as mates, as cousins, as friends, as wh\u0101nau. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI am not going to dwell too much on the inner workings of the settlement in this Ngai T\u0101manuhiri Claims Settlement Bill. Suffice it to say that this has been a momentous day. When was the last time the nation saw Parliament give its time over to the settlement of Treaty agreements? When was the last time we had a sitting from 9 o\u2019clock to 6 o\u2019clock ostensibly on Treaty settlement bills? I thought to myself, and said to myself, earlier in the day: \u201CIs this a good thing or is this a bad thing? Are we ghettoising the Treaty settlements by putting them on one day, or are we giving them their fair due?\u201D I believe it is the latter\u2014that we are giving part of our history, part of our story, due recognition in the House of Parliament.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E And actually it is not the House of Parliament; it is the House of Representatives. That basically means to me that it is the House that is our visitors\u2019 House\u2014it is the House of Representatives. It is the House where we stand and deliver on all manner of things in a representative role for the people outside. It is a wonderful, wonderful day to have you all here, especially, I suppose, knowing where T\u0101manuhiri is as well. It was only very recently that I got to stand on the shores of Muriwai, contemplating my career in politics, and whether it was, maybe, going to go for another 3 years, or maybe end abruptly. I was lucky. It went on for another\u2014well, it is going on for another 3 years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI have said for the last 2 weeks that this is all about the tapestry, the brilliant tapestry of New Zealand\u2019s history, and I do echo what the Hon Parekura Horomia says about the naming, what it actually means, and where it lies in the hearts of the hau k\u0101inga, the home people. But I also feel for my mate who was sitting here, who is related to those Youngs, and to Nicholas Young. As for whether that is true or not, I mean, like he says, I think it is a good story and I will be telling that story around the nation as well\u2014that Young Nick\u2019s Head was named after his tupuna. Like I said, whether it is true or not, most of us know\u2014most M\u0101ori know\u2014of its true name, its real name, and pay due respects. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EHere is something else to ponder: regardless of whether land is given back, returned, or whatever, when we drive past it, even if it does not belong to us any more, we still say \u201CSee that piece of land over there? That\u2019s ours.\u201D I think that is a good thing. I think that if we can pay due recognition, and if we can pay what we owe in the final analysis, that is a great thing for this history, and other nations around the world can have a look at us. I want to take that and refer to the Black Hills of Dakota, where in the 1860s there was a treaty between the indigenous people and the Government of the USA, stating that they would have tino rangatiratanga over this block of land, the Black Hills of Dakota. They signed the treaty, and one day somebody found gold and that was it. And, you know, for ever and a day, it even went as high as the Supreme Court to say how the treaty was broken. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000462\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EThe agreement that T\u0101manuhiri has is with the Crown. Make no mistake: every one of us sitting here today is the Crown. It is not just the Government; it is the Opposition as well\u2014those people are the Crown. My advice throughout the debate has been to watch out for the hawkers and the shysters, but also to watch out for the Crown. Watch out for the Government, because in its wish to take the country forward it might slip up now and then, or it might trip over now and then. It is a good idea just to keep a watching brief on what we do as the Crown. So that is another piece of advice. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000463\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EI will not go on too much longer, other than to say: ng\u0101 mihi nunui ki a koutou katoa ng\u0101 uri o ng\u0101 aitua o Ngai T\u0101manuhiri. Tino hari taku ng\u0101kau i kite au i a koutou i roto i t\u014Dku nei Whare, i t\u014D Whare, n\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Kua pai t\u0101 koutou haerenga ki te hau k\u0101inga a muri i t\u0113nei k\u014Drero, n\u014D reira, ng\u0101 manaakitanga, ng\u0101 aroha ki a koutou katoa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora mai t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000464\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003E[I acknowledge you greatly, descendants of Ngai T\u0101manuhiri disasters. I am particularly pleased to see you here in my House, your House, so greetings and salutations to you collectively. All will be well for your return home following this address, so blessings and compassion to you all, greeting, greetings, and greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000465\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EWaiata\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20120726364c6672f0434c21a811dcef16ca34b4000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002251dfea20-2244-4fc7-bd7d-ebf7a98580e1\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 6.06 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"