"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022978e9851007a4e4a93f97a8b0f02e8ce\u0022\u003EWEDNESDAY, 9 AUGUST 2017\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022014a72b90395404db1471f7313768022\u0022\u003EWEDNESDAY, 9 AUGUST 2017\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000002\u0022\u003EMr Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000004\u0022\u003EPrayers.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00223b99154355b44e7d964fc14786de893d\u0022\u003EMotions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f1823e299a7849c19e78e23706dd1a09\u0022\u003EWorld\u2019s Indigenous Peoples\u2014International Day\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022c0c36895188c48b2af85e9fdb48aba74\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c0c36895188c48b2af85e9fdb48aba74\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave to move without notice or debate a motion on the International Day of the World\u2019s Indigenous Peoples.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022883c63529d0548b7a2008c88937d7218\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for that notice without debate. Is there any objection to that course of action? There is none.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002268407dc280d14071bcf73ce566afbffc\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: I move, That this House note that today is the International Day of the World\u2019s Indigenous Peoples\u2014a day that celebrates the world\u2019s 370 million indigenous people\u2014and that the House affirm its support for the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002232ac58bc143e4db2ba53316beaee8180\u0022\u003EOral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022bebfd0c3758641d098364bcbfcce7758\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e4a1bb59c2e34740992cfe4b6d18a1d0\u0022\u003EBudget 2017\u2014Infrastructure Programme\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022 data-id=\u0022878d8f4dc3044c8db278a4a362df80b5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022878d8f4dc3044c8db278a4a362df80b5\u0022\u003EKANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: What progress is the Government making on the $32.5 billion infrastructure programme over the next 4 years identified in Budget 2017?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022 data-id=\u00223d6d95b2770143ad80ae8395ba4eded3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223d6d95b2770143ad80ae8395ba4eded3\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E The Government is making good progress with what is the largest infrastructure plan New Zealand has been involved in. For example, we are very busy investing in a range of transport projects. Yesterday KiwiRail rejoined the Main North Line between Christchurch and Picton. We are also currently working on the highway there. In Auckland we are working on the Southern Motorway corridor, which is a 50 percent expansion. The Waterview tunnel also opened recently, delivering massive time savings to Aucklanders travelling between the west and south of Auckland and also between the airport and the city. Just last week, the Government officially opened in Wellington the $43 million Haywards Interchange project, which delivers significant benefits to Hutt Valley motorists by smoothing traffic flow and reducing accident risk.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221a6e5893526e4fe4a855eb2823ca8e59\u0022\u003EKanwaljit Singh Bakshi\u003C/span\u003E: How does Budget 2017\u2019s transport investment benefit Auckland?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229fc4accf7ddf48edbc39b01dd72afbe8\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: The Government is making a significant number of transport investments in and around Auckland, across all modes. These include the East-West Link, the new motorway linking the Southwestern Motorway with the Southern Motorway, electrifying the commuter railway line between Papakura and Pukekohe, and our intention to construct the third main line. Of course, there is also the Northern Motorway corridor between Constellation and Albany, and the extension of the busway. The Government, in partnership with Auckland Council, is considering further investments in areas like the Mill Road corridor and the Northwestern Motorway busway as part of a comprehensive plan to unlock land for housing development projects around the city.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227bc78ff349da48ce99fc7e17917c5b9f\u0022\u003EKanwaljit Singh Bakshi\u003C/span\u003E: How will these investments flow through the construction sector?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002219e3b58367eb4acfa8fc5bd53778ad29\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: The investment programmes in Auckland and around the country are giving the construction sector the confidence to make many long-term commitments. The independent National Construction Pipeline report released last weekend shows that the building boom we have been experiencing is forecast to continue for at least another 3 or 4 years. That is because Budget 2017 is also funding new programmes like the Housing Infrastructure Fund and Crown Infrastructure Partners, which are able to open up land to build up to 83,000 houses in fast-growing parts of the country. This construction pipeline shows that the Government\u2019s plan to invest in key infrastructure for a growing country is working for New Zealanders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f61ca71210a74e31aa317d82882392ac\u0022\u003EKanwaljit Singh Bakshi\u003C/span\u003E: How is the Government able to deliver on this infrastructure plan?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fc71660c6f51467cbe917ac37e07c31c\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: The Government delivers by involving private sector investment and private partners, as well as the Government\u2019s investment. For example, we have a good track record in areas like ultra-fast broadband, which has been supported by around a $2 billion investment from the Government and has been more than matched by co-investments from the private sector. As a result, New Zealand has already moved up the OECD broadband rankings from 26th in the world 5 years ago to 11th last year. Once complete, the ultra-fast broadband will probably put us in a top-five spot in the OECD, and that is a true public-private partnership delivering for New Zealanders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ba7c667ab80f4bc6838796c2b4092118\u0022\u003EM\u0101ori Development\u2014Wage Gap, Employment Rate, and Ministerial Responsibility\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022d1c2459368be468ab17b6f71a69c3785\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d1c2459368be468ab17b6f71a69c3785\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. When this question was lodged, it was directed to the Minister for M\u0101ori Development, whose responsibilities include numerous pieces of legislation and policies that impact upon M\u0101ori economic well-being. On this issue in particular, Speaker\u2019s ruling 194/4 says: \u201CMinisters have a responsibility to the House, and through the House to the country, to account for the public offices they hold.\u201D The question asks for his view on the wage gap that affects M\u0101ori, and it is his view that my constituents and M\u0101ori around Aotearoa are interested in, not the view of the Minister to whom the question has been redirected. He has responsibility to this House to give a view on this critical issue for M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022 data-id=\u00220914e758bba849cab4a23292be7be4cd\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220914e758bba849cab4a23292be7be4cd\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think the summary of that point of order is that the member is objecting to the transfer. Can I refer the member to two Speakers\u2019 rulings that have guided me in this regard. Speakers\u2019 ruling 167/5 says that Ministers not only have a right to determine who will answer but, in fact, have a duty to pick the Minister who can most responsibly answer. I also refer the member to Speakers\u2019 ruling 168/1, which says that the Government has the right to transfer questions, but if it was doing so in a way to dodge the issue, then the member might have a point. In this case, I think the justification for the transfer is clear to me. The member can proceed to ask his question; if he prefers not to, we will move straight to question No. 3.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u00220b345915f58a478ca01a84763d349a5a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220b345915f58a478ca01a84763d349a5a\u0022\u003ECHRIS HIPKINS (Labour\u2014Rimutaka):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I suspect it is well too late to do anything about it in this case, because the transfer has gone ahead and I suspect it will be the Minister of employment answering the question. But the issue comes when there is, for example, a population Minister who represents an advocacy agency, effectively, because almost any question to the Minister for M\u0101ori Development will overlap with the responsibilities of another Minister. Therefore, about the only question that we could lodge to the Minister that we could guarantee he would have to answer would be \u201CDoes he stand by his statements?\u201D or \u201CDoes he have confidence in his department?\u201D, and any indication from us of the topic that we wish to question him on therefore leaves open the possibility for transfer. So I wonder whether at some point you could consider\u2014there are a limited number of ministerial portfolios that would be in this situation, and the Minister for M\u0101ori Development is one\u2014whether there is a way that Opposition members can lodge questions to that Minister and be clear that it is going to be that Minister who is answering them, because almost anything else gives rise to a potential transfer. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022 data-id=\u002254c3a52db32d4958be6cd40bd4843e9b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002254c3a52db32d4958be6cd40bd4843e9b\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I thank the member for his point, and I did take particular interest and it was my final decision as to whether this question could be transferred. I was conscious of the very point the member is making now. In fact, in my time as Speaker, on two occasions I have refused transfers because I thought they had not got to the point the member was trying to get to with those particular questions, and I suspect those are the only two times that has happened in probably the last 20-odd years in this Parliament. I look at this matter very carefully. I think the way forward is that if the member really wanted to direct it to a particular Minister, he could have done so with a different wording of that question. I advise all members that as they are formulating their thoughts on questions, if they want to seek any advice at all from the Clerk of the House, that is probably their best option. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022759340cdcf434f2a8e45489343c11713\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022759340cdcf434f2a8e45489343c11713\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills and Employment: Does he believe it is a sign of success that after nine years of this Government the wage gap between M\u0101ori and P\u0101keh\u0101 now sits at $213 a week?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022 data-id=\u002265b5685f474a499b929ebacd69960dc0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002265b5685f474a499b929ebacd69960dc0\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Finance)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills and Employment: No, we are not happy. We will not be happy until there is no gap in wages between M\u0101ori and P\u0101keh\u0101, and indeed other groups, as well. That is why the Government is focusing on a range of initiatives to increase training and skills for young M\u0101ori, particularly enrolments and graduations in tertiary education, programmes like Grow Kaikohe in Northland as well, for the M\u0101ori \u201Cneets\u201D in areas like Northland, and a range of programmes that will ensure that this gap continues to close. Tell you what, what we will not be doing is putting a tax on regional\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224f5231630a1c4a36b493ff4d6433112e\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] Order! We do not need to go there. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227773a5819a28427a87114df707df79c9\u0022\u003EChris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Where a question is transferred, is there some obligation on the Minister to whom it is transferred to be the person who answers the question? The Minister to whom the question was lodged is in the House, but the Minister whom the Government has transferred it to is not in the House, so the case for saying that the Minister to whom it was transferred to is in a better position to answer is significantly weakened. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002212d05e9fc7594a579b94083b4a07d83e\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222eae8e4f54c0405faaf1c3a92af666ac\u0022\u003EHon Members\u003C/span\u003E: Sit down. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228ee472ec318d43a0a4e8d775eac902c1\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: No, I will not sit down. Speaking to the point of order, I note that that point\u2014[Interruption] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e73d46ff6a354830bbd3538f438dda71\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! This is a point of order and I expect it to be heard in silence. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224f1f6387922f407db3f0cfb471af2b32\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order, I say it is ultimately very simple. The Minister for M\u0101ori Development does not have responsibility for the wage gap that the member is asking about; the Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, and Employment does. That is why it was transferred. Then, who answers if that Minister is away, is entirely for the Government. [Interruption] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002257edb8d58771481cb42c94ffde089a98\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! I appreciate the points raised by both members. This issue I canvassed with the two Speakers\u2019 rulings I referred to earlier. If a decision is made to transfer, then it is the Government\u2019s decision as to whom it transfers that to, and, as I pointed out earlier, I think the Government must accept it has a responsibility to give it to the Minister whom it thinks can best answer the question that has been asked. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002254b64f872ed74941a207721fb5f9df36\u0022\u003EKelvin Davis\u003C/span\u003E: Can he confirm that this wage gap represents a 30 percent increase since his Government came into power? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d6614d12ae45492e887f20edaa5fb370\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: No, I cannot, and it all depends on how the member counts it. But in terms of the gap, I agree with the member that it is higher than we would like, and the way we deal with that is to focus on ensuring that we have the tertiary education opportunities and success for young M\u0101ori so that this gap can be closed over time. It has never been closed before, and I think that is something that we all in this House need to reflect upon. But I can report for the member that the number of M\u0101ori, or the proportion of M\u0101ori aged 25 to 64 who now have, for example, a Bachelor\u2019s degree or above has increased from 9 percent in 2008 to 17 percent this year, and that is good progress. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002244ddfedb31e54728a7b2868317ef4f8b\u0022\u003EKelvin Davis\u003C/span\u003E: N\u014Dna r\u0101nei te h\u0113 m\u014D te rerek\u0113t\u0101nga o te p\u016Btea \u0101-wiki \u0101 Te P\u0101keh\u0101 ki t\u0101 te p\u016Btea M\u0101ori \u0101-wiki; ki te kore, he aha te take kua h\u016Bkukuhia mai tenei p\u0101tai i Te Minita Whanaketanga M\u0101ori, ki a ia i t\u0113nei r\u0101 hai whakanui i Ng\u0101 Iwi Taketake o Te Ao?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[Is the fault his for the difference between the P\u0101keh\u0101 weekly sum of money and that of the M\u0101ori weekly sum of money; if not, what is the reason for this question being shifted from the Minister for M\u0101ori Development to him on this day celebrating the indigenous peoples of the world?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002221de3e0a8ed448cba5caa49aedc76e83\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The Hon Steven Joyce, if he feels he has heard enough of the translation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223329bebd0b6c40cea0710bff3155eb0a\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: Everybody in this Government takes responsibility for the performance and success of New Zealanders. In the case of tertiary education, skills, and employment, one of the key paths forward to close the income gap between M\u0101ori and everybody else is actually through employment and training. That is why it is appropriate that the Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills and Employment takes a strong interest in the skills achievement of M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224577ed6da8684fc988c02ce80da5a244\u0022\u003EMarama Fox\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I was actually very interested in the answer from the Minister\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223cb90bc1f8c4489d8115e76be53dea04\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Can I have the point of order, please.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b9a40432fb7e4a17af906f01efbd5eb4\u0022\u003EMarama Fox\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the point of order is that the lack of positive interjection from the left has inhibited my ability\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002249a8213966184b20928a0064a77d98e1\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] Order! I appreciate the point the member is making. There was significant interjection, but I could still manage to hear the answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262260871bcda4af19122a9e274f76e5c\u0022\u003EKelvin Davis\u003C/span\u003E: Does he believe that the huge wage gap between M\u0101ori and P\u0101keh\u0101 has anything to do with the fact that the number of M\u0101ori who are now homeless under his watch sits at 14,000?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222d9268a624d04ed29f6760fa8eb39807\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: The Government does not agree with that characterisation of the homeless population, which the Opposition keeps running but is not correct. Nevertheless, the key point is the achievement and participation in the economy of M\u0101ori of all ages. That is why it is important to lift education levels, and, as I say, I am pleased to report to the member the number of M\u0101ori completing a Bachelor\u2019s degree each year has increased 64 percent since 2008. The number of M\u0101ori involved in programmes that we have\u2014for example, the M\u0101ori and Pasifika Trades Training Initiative\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022afdfc33bc7114256ae1dde74fd3099b8\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Bring the answer to a conclusion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228a9006c09f564c2b8a67e0b0357051d0\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014is increasing. But, again, I think it is really important that a lot of M\u0101ori are in regional New Zealand, and what you would not do is actually put on an additional tax to affect them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a0f13c10e0b84fc98202aa51ba76b525\u0022\u003EKelvin Davis\u003C/span\u003E: He aha te take kei raro i a ia, kua eke te nama o ng\u0101 M\u0101ori e kore mahi ana m\u0101 te 60 paih\u0113neti, ko te pai h\u0113neti M\u0101ori, e 11.1 engari, 3.4 pai h\u0113neti noa iho t\u0101 Te P\u0101keh\u0101?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[Why is it that under his watch the number of unemployed M\u0101ori has climbed by 60 percent, the M\u0101ori percentage being 11.1 but the P\u0101keh\u0101 percentage being only 3.4?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b593e920bdb2432c9ade43b94b0c361b\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Can I ask the member to repeat the question because the interpretation has not come through on my earpiece.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226345de06b3e04e1c8819bb0e9d6918fd\u0022\u003EKelvin Davis\u003C/span\u003E: He aha te take kei raro i a ia, kua eke te nama o ng\u0101 M\u0101ori e kore mahi ana m\u0101 te te 60 paih\u0113neti, ko te paih\u0113neti M\u0101ori 11.1 engari, 3.4 pai noa iho t\u0101 Te P\u0101keh\u0101?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[Why is it that under his watch the number of unemployed M\u0101ori has climbed by 60 percent, the M\u0101ori percentage being 11.1 but the P\u0101keh\u0101 percentage being only 3.4?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c3f2263b18f4741adefe525325294e3\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: I would have to check those figures for the member. Of course, we have had the global financial crisis, which has affected every community and every group. We have been getting improving results for M\u0101ori since 2012, but, again, the longer-term solution is increased educational achievement, particularly in the tertiary and trades areas. I suggest the member has a look at those numbers and actually congratulates M\u0101ori on achieving those results.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022918c435c5b614bf4a39debc202b9aa26\u0022\u003EKelvin Davis\u003C/span\u003E: As the Minister for M\u0101ori Development is responsible for guiding him and other Ministers on \u201Cpolicies affecting M\u0101ori wellbeing\u201D, is it he or the Minister for M\u0101ori Development who is failing M\u0101ori, given the wage gap is growing, as well as high unemployment?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a669b2d980b0463b83be86e7b3356512\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: As I said to him earlier, this is a job that the Government is very focused on: lifting achievement and participation of M\u0101ori in the New Zealand economy. That is why we are doing the regional growth programmes, that is why we are doing M\u0101ori and Pasifika trades training, and that is why we are ensuring that more M\u0101ori achieve in tertiary education, including universities. I know the Opposition is blind to that because it hates anything that disproves its thesis, but this Government is focused on achieving for M\u0101ori, and delivering higher qualifications is one of the key ways in which that will be achieved.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022baa9397a401744f9b11f6a05f259ae46\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Has the Minister seen any reports of organisations, such as the Iwi Leaders Forum, endorsing the policy Partnership Schools/Kura Hourua?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c9122b70d1974ddfb16662337ef7c44c\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: I am not at all surprised that the iwi leaders group would support partnership schools, because they are designed to get better results\u2014for young M\u0101ori children, in many cases\u2014in different parts of the country. It is about trying new things and achieving things that this country has never been able to achieve before. But, of course, the Opposition wants to take us back to the bad old days when there was only one person who was allowed to teach people at schools.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00223ac0c0aeda6b4f02b06e4d00cbbece78\u0022\u003EGreenhouse Gas Emissions\u2014Increases, Measurement, and Reduction Targets\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022 data-id=\u0022b88dd94d9f16455aa45d040956b9f1cd\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b88dd94d9f16455aa45d040956b9f1cd\u0022\u003EJAMES SHAW (Co-Leader\u2014Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his policies?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022 data-id=\u0022ef66bd45ce4c434ba62f513a90afc46a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ef66bd45ce4c434ba62f513a90afc46a\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH (Prime Minister):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, particularly our 2015 policy that gave families on benefits with children a $25 a week boost to their incomes, while at the same time requiring them to meet obligations in respect of work. We found that taxpayers are happy to give people help when they are struggling, but they do expect some obligations to be met. We disagree with the Green Party\u2019s policy that people should be paid a benefit with no obligations at all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227bdb9ca8d3d24c88a133731317841476\u0022\u003EJames Shaw\u003C/span\u003E: Why have New Zealand\u2019s net greenhouse gas emissions risen by 19 percent since his Government took office in 2008?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223cae4a227d344d24bc5db88e764a83cd\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: That is a good question coming from, I think, the only Green Party in the world with no climate change spokesman this week. New Zealand has in place a comprehensive plan to deal with climate change, at the core of which is the emissions trading system, for which I would give credit to the predecessors of the current Green Party who, in the early 2000s, encouraged the development of exactly that scheme, which is so important to our climate change efforts.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e06d51afdfb344de85cc0480edda1720\u0022\u003EJames Shaw\u003C/span\u003E: Why have New Zealand\u2019s net greenhouse gas emissions risen by 19 percent since his Government took office in 2008?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c95dc0d16c6b4098a2bb0b6f29429c16\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: The greenhouse gas emissions have risen partly because of the growth of the population and the growth of the economy. We are always trying to find the right balance between achieving the climate change goals we have signed up to in the Paris accord on the one hand, and on the other hand ensuring that we have sustainable communities and a successful economy. As time goes on, we are generating better and better solutions so there is not a trade-off\u2014so that there are actually gains on both sides.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002221dfd4c4944644bdb3a69d18cc9d2a03\u0022\u003EJames Shaw\u003C/span\u003E: Does he anticipate whether New Zealand\u2019s greenhouse gas emissions will ever fall?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224efca6e8c4924d7f87b587c4cf5f6743\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: We anticipate that the greenhouse gas emissions will meet the targets that we have signed up to in the climate change agreement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d7be4e5aa30d41b896af4ee140fcf073\u0022\u003EJames Shaw\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree that there is one measure, and one measure only, of whether a country is succeeding or failing in its fight against climate change, and that that is whether its net greenhouse gas emissions are rising or falling?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227ddebff6036444b99691a821680259df\u0022\u003ERt Hon Bill English\u003C/span\u003E: I do not think it is quite that simple, but we have signed up to some pretty clear-cut targets in the Paris Agreement. We would expect that, over time, New Zealand moves towards and then achieves those targets, particularly as more research occurs and better technology comes to the fore\u2014say, in the transport area. We believe momentum will pick up.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002264e20b36170943418c5a211e51dca345\u0022\u003EJames Shaw\u003C/span\u003E: Has he read the recent National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research report that predicts that Wellington could be as hot as Sydney by 2090, and that the Wairarapa could be plagued by droughts and wildfires if greenhouse gas emissions continue unabated?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022571a7f70a19f42d28bbdf2173c2f6e26\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: I think that the time for that kind of discussion has really passed. We accept that there are climate change targets that we need to achieve, we have signed up to the global agreement to achieve those, and now it is really a matter of the best tools to make progress and get there. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225931ebd5a1754a3abda0acb66117b731\u0022\u003EJames Shaw\u003C/span\u003E: In reference to his last answer about signing up to climate agreements, does he stand by his actions in 2002 when, in reference to Helen Clark ratifying the latest climate agreement then, he held up a sign saying that \u201Cthe mad cow shouldn\u2019t have signed\u201D\u2014does he stand by that?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002244d1bacdf7144eac994775f8092ea070\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: I think the member is referring to a specific series of protests run by the farming community in respect of something that it referred to as the \u201Cfart tax\u201D, I suppose. At the time we certainly had a lot of discussion with the community about that particular measure.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022caf604fa78aa4b618d2e5188cbbfc3fe\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] Order! Members will get their chance for supplementary questions shortly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c44393d76dad4bbfb7fb6d65c0f259dc\u0022\u003EWomen\u2014Employment and Education Rates and Gender Pay Gap\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022 data-id=\u0022da837b84c5384b629cd325ed57d35f43\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022da837b84c5384b629cd325ed57d35f43\u0022\u003EDr PARMJEET PARMAR (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Women: What reports has she received about the progress of women in New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022 data-id=\u00222a375d5cf8c04db8aa0975c88a0158a1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222a375d5cf8c04db8aa0975c88a0158a1\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT (Minister for Women):\u003C/span\u003E This Government, of course, absolutely backs women to succeed, and the latest household labour force survey shows that we have one of the highest ever labour force participation rates for women, at 64.5 percent. This puts us fifth-highest, I must say, in the OECD and well above the OECD average of 51.9 percent. The number of unemployed women, of course, is also down to 4.9 percent.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002297bc9fec7fdc42d6a3d64a5373b4f898\u0022\u003EDr Parmjeet Parmar\u003C/span\u003E: What progress are young women making under the National Government?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b7336a6e59374230b13fa533f06ee38e\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: Our young women are in a better position than ever to seize the opportunity that this country has to offer them. We have the lowest rate for young women not in education, employment, or training since we began measuring it in 2004. There are 57 percent fewer young mums on main benefits at the end of 2016, compared with 2009, down from 4,263 to 1,836, and we have seen\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fdb5b072883644229dfb98db14304839\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I apologise for interrupting our Deputy Prime Minister. There is just so much noise on the other side, I simply cannot hear what she is saying.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002233169e71b61146ec910cfc5aa640dcfb\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I was about to rise to my feet. There are two or three serial offenders to my left who have not, effectively, been quiet throughout question time. I do not want to have to see the end of somebody\u2019s parliamentary career with them having to leave in the last few days of them being here, but if they are going to continue to interject, unreasonably and consistently, then I am afraid that members of the Labour caucus leave me no alternative.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002272aca58efa8c470c816e79145ed79f89\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: I thought we would be celebrating the successes of young women in this country, and I want to add to this that we have seen the percentage of girls achieving NCEA level 2 increase from 70.5 percent in 2008 to 81.7 percent in 2016.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002210b02e62ef8344f3842bf076a6812098\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: Has the Minister seen any reports of a 37-year-old woman, raised in Morrinsville now living in Point Chevalier, making excellent progress?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229ae05669c35d4804b09dd2e0cbdf466b\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: I may have noticed that there has been a bit of a change in the last week, but, as I say, you can change the lead singer but if the band is still singing the same old tune, nobody is listening.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e6a1bbc89b7b4e2889254ed91fb3b512\u0022\u003EDr Parmjeet Parmar\u003C/span\u003E: How is the public sector leading the way on promoting women?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f0251f93961e4b799b721ccffaa901f6\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: As Minister of State Services as well as Minister for Women, I think it is absolutely outstanding what the public sector is doing and leading by example. We now have the highest ever percentage of women on State sector boards at 45.3 percent. We have 45 percent of the top three tiers of leaders in the Public Service who are women and 12 of our 29 chief executives are women, and we are going to get that to 50 percent. We have also, of course, ensured that 55,000 women in our aged-care sector have got, on average, a more than 20 percent increase in their wages.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c329e48b3df3427b82c6214420a350e5\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: If any of that is remotely true and this Government is doing so much for women, why is it so prejudicial against young women trying to get equal pay in a country where they think that they have got a right to be paid equally?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e55fd434d49f42979a9d99c0b2042a05\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: I find that ironic, coming from the man who wants to hark back to the good old days in the 1970s where women were not even working and\u2014[Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ac5fde39ee484cb0986fe91aa672d8e1\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002226d44096239947a785f459a3a820834f\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] Order! No. I am just trying to get some silence so that I can hear the point of order. The Rt Hon Winston Peters.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bdddb13ba59f429dbc747033d1faeb14\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: In the interests of a fair go for young women, could the Minister just answer the question and not try to be a smart alec.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229c3ad3a9a4ae4b49b2b5bad6a9f8da4a\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] Order! When I consider the tone of the question that was asked, there was an element of that in the tone of the question that gives a bit of licence to the Deputy Prime Minister to answer the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002215686470d9cd43c9a85627ed91fa5355\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: What I will say is that in 1998 and in the early 2000s when that Minister was part of a Government, the gender pay gap was at 16.3 percent. It is now at 12 percent and we are bringing that down further.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00221a27d3d9c6d94e9ca26e23c9f88d7450\u0022\u003EEconomic Growth\u2014Wage Growth, Commercial Water User Charge, and Housing Costs\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022 data-id=\u0022b44fbda6a22a4f078ea8a43c549fbd8a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b44fbda6a22a4f078ea8a43c549fbd8a\u0022\u003EGRANT ROBERTSON (Labour\u2014Wellington Central)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: Is he satisfied that after nearly 9 years of a National Government, that all New Zealanders are getting a fair share of any economic growth?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022 data-id=\u0022b605665b98154af4ad7057cdb5c79d4c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b605665b98154af4ad7057cdb5c79d4c\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E The member sort of raises two questions there. The first one is around \u201Cany economic growth\u201D, and I am pleased to point out to him that New Zealand\u2019s economy has now grown in 24 of the last 25 quarters. It is forecast to grow a further 3.7 percent this year, and last year it was the fifth fastest growing economy in the OECD. So perhaps he could say: \u201C\u2026 getting a fair share of the economic growth?\u201D. In relation to whether New Zealanders are getting their fair share, I draw his attention to the Bryan Perry report, released by the Ministry of Social Development (MSD) last month, which shows median incomes after housing costs increasing from 2011 to 2016 by 16 percent in real terms, or 3.2 percent per annum. The lowest decile increased 19.6 percent over this period, while the highest decile increased slightly less at 19.1 percent.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022647edfaf5f96450f8e6fe015da215c7d\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: Are the 67 percent of wage and salary earners who received a pay rise of less than the rate of inflation over the last year getting their fair share?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b153f51389564682825fa6421d72f530\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: It depends on which year the member refers to, because in the last calendar year our inflation was zero, so it is hard to argue that people got a wage rise less than zero. But the member makes a good point in terms of always wanting to help New Zealanders get ahead. That is why the Government is putting in place the $2 billion a year Family Incomes Package, which through wage threshold changes, Working for Families, and the accommodation supplement will mean that the average family, something like 1.37 million New Zealand families, will get around $26 a week, and that is actually helping them with their incomes, and I know that the member is opposed to it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002297b7559c5ab345d38f7c7b151d5d5308\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: Is it a fair share for all New Zealanders when the cost of food, school donations, medical costs, dental costs, and housing costs all increased faster than wages did over the last year?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c74e3b7b8d584cf0959e0ea885732de7\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: Again, I think the member is concerned for New Zealanders and that is good, but then you would wonder why he would then say that you would want to have a regional fuel tax, or why you would want to have a water tax, which would flow through into milk prices. If you are genuinely concerned about New Zealanders\u2019 cost of living, you would not want to add extra taxes that would put up the costs of goods that they buy every week. That is the bit I do not understand. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002263f21adf0c8d4672b93847b8c8cbfeb6\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! We will just have the supplementary question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e9ceb48109c649f6ace6fa3f31019741\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: In light of that answer, will he rule out introducing a royalty on any commercial users of water?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002294806f8e3516486c843e67445d8ade9d\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: This Government will not be introducing a water tax\u2014a water tax that these people opposite are actually talking about doing. People do sometimes pay charges now, but we will not be introducing a water tax across catchments around New Zealand\u2014and, worse than that, telling people that we cannot tell you the rate until after a general election, because we are too scared to. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228426122a6ab24cf0a7f0b4f92eb2f2c6\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: In light of that answer, can he confirm\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223b7f9b4d4c994f4e9625381809a2f647\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: He hasn\u2019t got a clue.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002288fd9ecb270c4d9596f4932e98a31184\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: Shh, Simon! Shh! You will be interested.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e0a7bb3a6ca64b3dac586247d0192afa\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! I am going to invite the member to start his question again, without the interjections from Mr Bennett.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022efd2308baced4fa986df909d120d9088\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: In light of that answer, can he confirm that his Government asked the technical advisory panel to consider a royalty on a commercial user of water, and is that not just kicking the can down the road until after the election?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022101db03df24543c98933e33770d3f5f2\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: Well, in terms of that, it is very clear\u2014and I think the Prime Minister has said so today, and I have said so\u2014that we will not be introducing a water tax on a catchment-by-catchment basis across New Zealand. And the people who are talking about introducing a water tax should tell everybody what level of water tax they are actually planning on introducing. They wrote the policy 3 years ago; they surely should have an answer by now. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224449e368ceb44633ad5a901fe3151a66\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] Order!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002278d120c2d3a14ead965db526a62a297b\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: Ah, it is all good. Are people getting a fair share when the latest MSD data, otherwise known as the Perry report, shows that the percentage of people living in housing stress\u2014i.e., where they spend more than 30 percent of their income on housing costs\u2014is the highest it has been since records began 30 years ago?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220849aa47d1cf4d0c986255bc210e91e4\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: I cannot confirm that for the member. I am always suspicious of his numbers. But can I say this\u2014again, in relation to the matter\u2014the member says he is concerned about these things; so is the Government. That is why we are increasing the accommodation supplement for people with high housing costs as part of the Family Incomes Package, that is why we are increasing Working for Families, and that is why we are shifting the tax thresholds\u2014all things that will help reduce the housing costs as a proportion of people\u2019s incomes, but the Opposition oppose it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b3a7051588994d558cc59a3ebca6371b\u0022\u003EGrant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: Can he confirm that tables C.5 and C.3 of the 2017 MSD Perry report, which he did not seem to be aware of before, show that the number of people living in housing stress is the highest it has been since records began, and how is that a sign of success for a Government that has been in for 9 years?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d81bd76a9dca4ecd800529b8d0f92d0a\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE\u003C/span\u003E: I have two things for the member. Firstly, as soon as we could\u2014as soon as we could\u2014as soon as we had the books back into surplus, we introduced the first increase in real terms of benefits in 40 years, and, of course, that is not in the Perry report. The second thing is we have introduced the changes, the Family Incomes Package, in Budget 2017\u2014again, not in the Perry report\u2014which will help those people. Most importantly, we do not keep loading on extra taxes that put up the costs of the food and the petrol and all those things that people need. The member, of course, pretends he is concerned, but he does the exact opposite of anybody who would be concerned.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002209f29bf8a3ff493abd2d9e98b7f119ce\u0022\u003EHorticulture Sector\u2014Outlook, Growth Targets, and Commercial Water User Charge\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022 data-id=\u002206689ad6bc1b4803991c94b59f02eb79\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002206689ad6bc1b4803991c94b59f02eb79\u0022\u003ETODD MULLER (National\u2014Bay of Plenty)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Primary Industries: What recent reports has he received on the \u201Cbright\u201D outlook for the horticulture sector?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022 data-id=\u0022207994820d824fe39227fba5a6ca240b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022207994820d824fe39227fba5a6ca240b\u0022\u003EHon NATHAN GUY (Minister for Primary Industries):\u003C/span\u003E Last week I spoke at the Pipfruit New Zealand conference, where New Zealand was named as the world\u2019s most competitive apple performer for the third consecutive year. The apple industry continues to go from strength to strength, and it is set to achieve its goal of earning $1 billion in export returns by 2022. Zespri also released its annual review, showing the largest ever kiwifruit crop and record returns back to growers\u2014up 21 percent from last year. Another report shows that kiwifruit\u2019s contribution to New Zealand\u2019s GDP is set to increase to over $6 billion by 2030, creating an additional 29,000 New Zealand jobs\u2014a very bright outlook indeed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f01340ce8e7843ba804a2e81e1d5c75a\u0022\u003ETodd Muller\u003C/span\u003E: What potential challenges does our horticultural sector face in achieving its aspirational growth targets?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002294a4eec973054e24a3424a101c501526\u0022\u003EHon NATHAN GUY\u003C/span\u003E: Like many of our primary sectors, horticulture depends on a very secure and sustainable supply of water. A charge on water would mean the price of fruit and vegetables would rise and affect our international competitiveness in 80 world markets. I note that Horticulture New Zealand has just issued a press release entitled \u201C\u2026 let\u2019s not do this\u201D. This PR talks about how the policy that Labour has announced will make food more expensive\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022be0b14d6cea9415eabc8e7bf03e15990\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] Order! There is no responsibility from the Minister for a Labour Party policy announcement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002270e04e9d9e364cd1afc28ce32dc0524d\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Supplementary question. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220b7d1085805149499eabce7f7984f954\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] Order! [Interruption] Yes, I will come to the member in a minute; I just need substantially less interjection from both my left and, on this occasion particularly, my right.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022abebf963fb934001b41a372bf937dd27\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: If the outlook for horticulture is so bright, how come, as of just the other day, the kiwifruit industry has taken the Government to court seeking $400 million compensation for the absolute botch-up leading to Psa, and what on earth is the local member doing about it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002278cb50f20bd54123b4dfea9af6368c87\u0022\u003EHon NATHAN GUY\u003C/span\u003E: I am not going to comment on a case that is in front of the courts, but what I can say is that if the member takes some time and reads the Ministry for Primary Industries\u2019 (MPI\u2019s) response, he should be satisfied with the response from MPI\u2019s officials.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d27dc5bfc64c4b079a6f25891738998c\u0022\u003ETodd Barclay\u2014Employment Dispute Settlement and Prime Ministerial Involvement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022 data-id=\u002221ef719f3faa4712848af622bdb91bc6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002221ef719f3faa4712848af622bdb91bc6\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Leader\u2014NZ First)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his statements on the Todd Barclay matter; if so, how does he credibly do that?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022 data-id=\u0022b583f18b23eb40dab7491aae6681dc9d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b583f18b23eb40dab7491aae6681dc9d\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH (Prime Minister):\u003C/span\u003E I think the member may know how I am going to answer this question. Yes; because I said them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262922352721e47ffa26fa47eaa5a7680\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Did he use taxpayer resources to undermine the Clutha-Southland MP Todd Barclay\u2019s operations as that electorate\u2019s MP?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002289473fab35d7460aa05f669ca19db9dd\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Again, in so far as there may be prime ministerial responsibility\u2014the Right Honourable Prime Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f730b1fb4336464392ea0f2b9436375d\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: Of course not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cb7dc5a87b6743bab69e1d25ba188045\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Is he subject to any confidentiality agreement about what he can say about the Todd Barclay matter, including hundreds of related texts from a phone paid for by the taxpayer?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227ba059f6c5a544e6bceeb6d8755863f2\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Again, in so far as there may be prime ministerial responsibility\u2014the Right Honourable Prime Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022732adc63447d4e56835b007195460124\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: I was not a party to the settlement of this employment dispute, so I am not bound by the confidentiality of it but the people involved with it are.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a346a4063c7f425c8981f961d2b5256f\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: [Interruption] Oh, no, we have got him\u2014just be patient. Why does he claim not to have any knowledge about the employment settlement agreement involving Glenys Dickson and repetitively deny that he had any involvement in its preparation, when these denials are, evidentially, plain false?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225eeef74ad4d84dd2bcbf58ab3be74820\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Again, in so far as there is prime ministerial responsibility\u2014the Right Honourable Prime Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b58074dc61744e67b94b99cccdcc6ab2\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: It is quite right, I have no ministerial responsibility for it. All the relevant material has been in the public for some months, and the member seems to have found some of it lately. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002241ae30a7132f4f5c86d1ac0ed1105b56\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! We will have the supplementary question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226547348a9b54413381b0c6776ea8d607\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Can he confirm that the deployment of ministerial limos for him when in Clutha-Southland in 2015 involved proper ministerial reasons, and not other reasons?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002232892dfb8565442ba7c3dc4238254e83\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: Unfortunately, I do not get to Southland as much as I would like, but it is still more often than the member finds time to go to Northland.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022797f359380184b6d9edcd65c907ea7e9\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Seeing as you have predicated every answer by saying \u201Cwhere there is any prime ministerial responsibility\u201D\u2014since you have predicated every answer with that warning, why do you allow him to get away with that false lie?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223fe33482248740cd8731542a1771f11b\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! If the member would like\u2014[Interruption] Order! If the member would like to look at Hansard afterwards, he will see that I did not start every answer with that particular comment, and on the last one I did not. But I am unable to help the Minister, because I look at the generality of the first question asked, the primary question, to get into the detail the member is wanting in the supplementary question. I consider that the question has been addressed. Supplementary question\u2014the Rt Hon Winston Peters. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fad7b2143e4d4232b119caec75120cc7\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, well, here is the real question for you, sunshine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cb767e7a953d4077bd29a0a000ac728d\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member will resume his seat. I do acknowledge he is responding to interjections that are not helpful. Would the member now proceed with his supplementary question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229adacdcca6654cd6afe266daf01d2361\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: If it is proven that contrary to his denials he had substantial knowledge of the confidential agreement involving Glenys Dickson and was involved in its preparation as to terms and conditions, contrary to what he has been telling the media and Parliament, then, in the event of such proof, what will he do to hold himself accountable?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bb158206-360b-4757-8d72-f7d0994e1fb3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002247c8dd92579d4b6187acaa249d83ba69\u0022\u003ERt Hon BILL ENGLISH\u003C/span\u003E: All the statements I have made about it are correct, and the relevant material has been in the public arena for some time. I can assure the member I was no part of the agreement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022cd58af5125444c3c9258788afbd65068\u0022\u003ETransport, Auckland\u2014Rail to Airport, Funding, and Government Priorities\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u00228a8503f36acc4a4cb086b46732c15856\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228a8503f36acc4a4cb086b46732c15856\u0022\u003EPHIL TWYFORD (Labour\u2014Te Atat\u016B)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Transport: Why is the Government prepared to wait up to 30 years before funding light rail to Auckland Airport?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022 data-id=\u00226c4035d911564ad78e507a290841c59b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226c4035d911564ad78e507a290841c59b\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES (Minister of Transport):\u003C/span\u003E The Government has never said that. The Government\u2019s position has been, and is, clear and that is building and moving from bus to light rail, as demand requires. The Government\u2019s focus is on protecting the dedicated corridor and moving towards construction of the corridor, which will be completed within 10 years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a90260dbc5c943f98b123110868693bf\u0022\u003EPhil Twyford\u003C/span\u003E: Does he think that waiting 30 years for light rail in our biggest city is, to coin a phrase, ambitious for New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c4f20cb353d64f708db2c6b0563b0dd5\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES\u003C/span\u003E: I think our plan and the work we are doing with the council is truly ambitious for Auckland. It involves projects in the north, the south, the east, and the west\u2014where the growth is happening\u2014as opposed to relying on one silver bullet and putting everything into that, when actually Waterview has halved the time on that trip. While we know that a tram plan may, over time, have merit, it would take some 50 minutes\u2014well over double what Waterview is taking, and will continue to take for some time to come.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223e1afda25d784f8b82324a1b5c70138c\u0022\u003EPhil Twyford\u003C/span\u003E: Why, when congestion is costing the city $1.3 billion a year in lost productivity, is he holding back the city\u2019s growth in prosperity by refusing to back light rail to the airport now, just like Steven Joyce did with the City Rail Link?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ac4df6f5eab24dfabd0298098f2b9f28\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES\u003C/span\u003E: The truth is that the congestion is why we have got a plan of unprecedented ambition all over Auckland. It is why the East-West Link is so important, because, unlike the Labour Party, we do not live in some imaginary world where there is not freight. We do not think that mattresses, plasma TVs, and all these other things turn up to shops and people\u2019s homes by themselves.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221c766da837514fd28c01f6b1f83f6a28\u0022\u003EPhil Twyford\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with Infrastructure New Zealand, which said that Labour\u2019s commitment to solving Auckland\u2019s long-term transport funding challenge is \u201Ca big step forward\u201D, and the chamber of commerce, which said that Labour\u2019s speed of action to accelerate delivery of transport solutions is exactly what Auckland needs?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222f83d5421f3e4c01a1b5fda58695eafa\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES\u003C/span\u003E: I think what it actually said was that the plan was interesting. But what it also made quite clear was that it absolutely disagrees with a plan that would increase congestion dramatically, and that involves cancelling the East-West Link. I am also not sure what they think about the dramatic rise in regional fuel taxes that would be required, when we know that the tram plan requires over $100 million a kilometre.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002219fe1bd6a61a461baef1e67576dd67f6\u0022\u003EPhil Twyford\u003C/span\u003E: How would he fund the $6 billion gap in the Auckland transport plan\u2019s first decade if he is in Government after the next election? Mr Speaker, I know that is a hypothetical question, but I hope you will allow it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b0d2780b2a414956abbc649093a1daab\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the same as we have already funded a plan of unprecedented ambition in Auckland and New Zealand. We have done it before; we will do it again. We have got a lot of capital that we have made clear through Budget 2017, and the National Land Transport Fund also has some headroom. What we will not be doing is adding new taxes. It will be much more than 10c, actually, and really hitting Aucklanders in the hip pocket.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228bac275ac922421f8203bb5c420b1b6f\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Could I ask the Minister whether the real reason that he is being so slow to address the needs of the Auckland community where rail is concerned is that he has done nothing about Gisborne and Northland, Manawat\u016B to Wairarapa, and the North Canterbury to Christchurch line?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224c1994d673544ebaa9494dc5a1d235ab\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the member knows that is a load of old cobblers. He asks me written questions nearly every day and I make clear the projects happening all over New Zealand\u2014the East Coast and the north; actually, the hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. I think that is a big part of the reason why our regions, contrary to all the stuff he says, are booming right now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f983394e4c32410486ae424bd65b9c64\u0022\u003EBeneficiaries\u2014Reduction in Numbers and Reports\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022 data-id=\u0022d3032c36fb3d480ba202ca2b252eb4a1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d3032c36fb3d480ba202ca2b252eb4a1\u0022\u003EDr SHANE RETI (National\u2014Whangarei)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Social Development: What recent reports has she received regarding reductions in the number of people receiving a benefit?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022 data-id=\u0022b5ef5607b1bf484e91071b97e3610e4d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b5ef5607b1bf484e91071b97e3610e4d\u0022\u003EHon ANNE TOLLEY (Minister for Social Development):\u003C/span\u003E The latest Ministry of Social Development quarterly benefit data shows that there are over 17,000 fewer people on a main benefit than 3 years ago. The proportion of the working-age population receiving a benefit is now at the lowest it has been in a June quarter since 1997, which also happened to be under a National Government. This Government\u2019s strong and stable economic management has seen unemployment drop to pre - global financial crisis levels of 4.8 percent, and 248,000 more people have been employed over the last 3 years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c487efd156eb427196d77efff759dab1\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: What groups have had particular success moving off benefits and into employment?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022af15afa5dc7a4f43911c2f715fd14627\u0022\u003EHon ANNE TOLLEY\u003C/span\u003E: The number of people receiving sole parent support continues to reduce at levels above all forecasts and predictions. They are a terrific group of people determined to get ahead. In the last 3 years, the number of people on sole parent support has reduced by 18 percent. Even more encouraging, amongst 18- to 24-year-olds, the reduction is a massive 35.6 percent over the 3 years\u2014a 35.6 percent reduction. Honestly, we all know it is tough to be a parent on a benefit, but their desire for a better life for their family means we now have over 61,000 fewer children growing up in a benefit-dependent home.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220a0a1d10cd49424d8ae445973f58cd43\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: What changes have there been in benefit numbers in the Northland region?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c5dc754134ee4cc697240f728a9fc343\u0022\u003EHon ANNE TOLLEY\u003C/span\u003E: More good news. As seen in the latest household labour force survey released last week, the unemployment rate has dropped significantly in Northland by 3.4 percent in the last year. We are also seeing this reflected in the benefit statistics for the region, which show a 5.1 percent reduction in the number of job seeker work-ready recipients in the last year in Northland. But we are not resting on these results. We know there is much more to do. That is why last month, alongside the Prime Minister and other Ministers, we announced a $50 million youth employment pathways programme to support young people who are not in employment, education, or training\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226be9924b5f024fa18d554f084341f0b1\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: It shows you what I\u2019ve done in 2 years flat.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022530ce0c4-c977-40cb-90fb-754f54931ff1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262a876c9384c4e8487d6eb45f0d6ffaf\u0022\u003ETracey Martin\u003C/span\u003E: The Winston Peters effect.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f994ec3739e94973ad5599c82001e95f\u0022\u003EHon ANNE TOLLEY\u003C/span\u003E: Listen, you might learn something for your people. This follows on from the success of grow KAIKOHE and now the Taitamariki 500 to get Northland youth currently on a benefit on the pathway to sustainable long-term employment, which is more than you have ever done, Mr Peters. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c98d5e64db264820b5872b588f7f5cce\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. That Minister cannot break the Standing Orders and address a person in the way she did. I know she is not the brightest cog in the wheel, but she cannot get away with that. [Interruption] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022548399f9ac5e44e9a412f572202c15d6\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member on this occasion is right. The last part of the answer was unnecessary to the order of this House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00221e7103f6dfda4d3d8a5c9401a4d5facd\u0022\u003EFreshwater Management\u2014Water Quality of Rivers and Lakes and Government Measures to Address\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022 data-id=\u002226b94f41a325466787b3e0d4f23e5eff\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002226b94f41a325466787b3e0d4f23e5eff\u0022\u003ECATHERINE DELAHUNTY (Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for the Environment: Can he confirm that yesterday\u2019s announcement of grants to clean up rivers and lakes was actually first promised in 2014 and it\u2019s taken him three years to do it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022 data-id=\u002270c22f8a5efe4f8392036d2f599aa8a5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002270c22f8a5efe4f8392036d2f599aa8a5\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON (Associate Minister for the Environment)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for the Environment: No. Yesterday\u2019s announcement builds on a $360 million commitment that is in place, and this is just the next phase of bringing that total to over $400 million. During the previous Government, supported by the Greens, just $29 million was spent, and the record is therefore clear on who takes fresh water seriously.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a20d86a1b6114368a4697e2992814767\u0022\u003ECatherine Delahunty\u003C/span\u003E: How does yesterday\u2019s announcement deal with nitrates from intensive dairying, given the fact that the elephant in the room is actually a cow?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220a8f71553cce47f08f223b85a815242d\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON\u003C/span\u003E: Yesterday\u2019s announced funding for freshwater improvement projects means that over 100 rivers and lakes across New Zealand are to receive grants of up to $44 million from the Government to improve water quality. There is no elephant in those lakes and rivers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002239debb2281ba4e669166bbf4502b0d8e\u0022\u003ECatherine Delahunty\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I asked a specific question about nitrates\u2014how does it deal with nitrates\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea1823f1735a4c1584bd52bef29ea2e7\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, the member then added something that gave a bit more licence to the Minister when he answered the question; the Minister chose to use it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b8c248ed1aae4412b365d89c58f2a6bb\u0022\u003ECatherine Delahunty\u003C/span\u003E: What percentage of projects announced yesterday deal with improving water quality in urban waterways?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e87634cc876f422a9598faf4d2bf9d5f\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON\u003C/span\u003E: That is a good question, because urban waterways are just as important in terms of improving water quality as rural waterways. If the member wishes to put down in writing a specific question on that matter, the Minister will answer in detail.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221a265da98b574fa696185c7b4f2c082b\u0022\u003EAndrew Bayly\u003C/span\u003E: Has the Minister read any reports on the impact of a 10c per litre charge on all commercial water users to fund clean-ups, and how much revenue would that generate? [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022633a8b3efbef44f1b3a218cbef170d8f\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The question is in order; it can be answered.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cccfe9ff626c420d89fd5f1f5b42663f\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, a 10c per litre charge on all commercial users was proposed in October 2015, and if it had been applied it would have cost the New Zealand economy $600 billion, or three times New Zealand\u2019s total gross domestic product. In practice, such a tax would collapse our economy. The proposal came from Labour\u2019s Stuart Nash.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bbded2ec-ac25-4a73-a380-3f4d87693084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c0a63707ef94ee48ee8fb3c0b425f54\u0022\u003EStuart Nash\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. This charge was levelled by a previous Minister. I challenged him to come up with the evidence, and he could not and he has not. I ask the Minister to withdraw and apologise, or provide evidence of such.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226cc21666880a46719a284e3cefbf7acf\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order, from memory this has been dealt with by way of personal explanation by Mr Nash previously, where he has denied making such a suggestion. Mr Speaker, I think you are aware that once a member has done that\u2014if the member is wrong it is a breach of privilege and that is very serious, but no member can bring that allegation up again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022121e8277919f4f7eafc5a433d7237282\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I was unaware that it had been the subject of a personal explanation from Mr Nash. I may not have been in the House at that time. I think the best way forward is that I will require the Minister to stand and withdraw the final part of his answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002261f96c12f72f4ceeafa8bd1f0f616509\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON\u003C/span\u003E: I withdraw the final part of my answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002205a557f276c94415aaad813894af5a85\u0022\u003ECatherine Delahunty\u003C/span\u003E: Why is the Government spending just $44 million on freshwater improvement projects, and $400 million on irrigation projects that will not help the environment of our waterways?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228e04f3b6543c484e99ef5ef0d73f814a\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON\u003C/span\u003E: As I indicated in the answer to the primary question, the $44 million announced yesterday was just part of a $400 million package, $360 million of which has already been allocated. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002201f5134d9f694c1db357f7c48db25dd5\u0022\u003EChristchurch Schools Rebuild Programme\u2014Progress\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022 data-id=\u00223983111898db483a87a98a14269cf572\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223983111898db483a87a98a14269cf572\u0022\u003EJOANNE HAYES (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Education: What recent announcements has the Government made on the progress of the Christchurch Schools Rebuild Programme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022 data-id=\u00221831a815a6ac438bbc509326f50fba40\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221831a815a6ac438bbc509326f50fba40\u0022\u003EHon TIM MACINDOE (Associate Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E The Christchurch Schools Rebuild programme is a $1.137 billion programme involving 115 schools in greater Christchurch. The programme has great momentum and is on track to be completed on schedule, by 2022. In conjunction with a number of very enjoyable school and site visits in the last week, I have announced that the $26 million redevelopment of Hornby High School has commenced, the $3.5 million project at Hornby Primary School has been completed, the construction of the new co-located Avonside Girls\u2019 High School and Shirley Boys High School at QEII Park has begun, the redevelopment at Wharenui School has been completed, and yesterday I turned the first sod\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e04bfb3cad8f4cc38302698e9b1752f1\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I know it is late in this session, but surely Ministers cannot get up and tediously and boringly read out their recent agenda of what remotely little work they have been doing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fdd1d9c7af284e1096b768e0d7b05415\u0022\u003EHon TIM MACINDOE\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002296a33f9fab1344d9bb38a9d3f013116f\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, I do not need assistance. Unfortunately, the rules of question time mean that a Minister can, in fact, do that. Does the Minister wish to complete his answer? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ad045176a8ba4453ba9f37575419df88\u0022\u003EHon TIM MACINDOE\u003C/span\u003E: I do, indeed, wish to complete the answer, because the question was about what announcements have been made, and all of these announcements have been made in the last week. I turned the first sod yesterday to mark the beginning of construction at Addington School and on the site of the new Wigram Primary School, and I have to say that is more great news in a wonderful week for Crusaders fans. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225c950233ab9a4d3ea9752672f766bf5c\u0022\u003EJoanne Hayes\u003C/span\u003E: How will these projects benefit schools in the greater Christchurch region?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002279f8e90178704c358149c448a997ad9c\u0022\u003EHon TIM MACINDOE\u003C/span\u003E: I think even members opposite would have to concede that it is a huge undertaking to rebuild and redevelop 115 schools in the region. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cc94ae6f1c894360bbdaae346dc1cb56\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: How many? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002226778a3c1b18434e8288b63a618562be\u0022\u003EHon TIM MACINDOE\u003C/span\u003E: One hundred and fifteen schools in the Christchurch region. The Christchurch Schools Rebuild programme is also a great opportunity for schools to redesign all or parts of their school facilities to meet the needs of their current and future pupils. All 115 schools will be provided with fantastic modern facilities and learning environments, which will encourage learning to happen and pupils to achieve to the best of their potential. So I would like to thank and acknowledge the schools, the staff, and the boards of trustees of those schools for their commitment to securing the best facilities while also focusing on student achievement in their current environments. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ac60b9da29d043bda9890f98a382de60\u0022\u003EHon Trevor Mallard\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Recently, by way of point of order, I indicated that an explanation that Mr Nash gave was by way of personal explanation. I have since checked and found out that it was part of debate, and not that. I therefore apologise to you, to the Minister, and to the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f5796ba1bf044474b320e75fc3229b10\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I appreciate that from my Assistant Speaker. The matter has been dealt with and, of course, the members always have that relatively recent Standing Order, Standing Order 359. If people think they have been misrepresented, and it does not reach a case of breach of privilege, there is a very easy process to follow. It has been followed once with success in this House, where I thought a particular person and his party\u2019s position was quite seriously misrepresented in this House. So it is a mechanism available to all members. I suggest they become familiar with it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002276c84943b1de486784d801aa04e8b062\u0022\u003EHon Steven Joyce\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order, Mr Speaker, I have since seen a number of articles that suggest that the member proposed a 10c a litre royalty. Perhaps\u2014I do not know\u2014we could table them in the House. They might be useful. Just for the House\u2019s edification, I would be happy to do so. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002229597e1c9c124b258cd98a684684c1c2\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, if the members\u2014[Interruption] Order! I have dealt with the matter, so I am not going back on that, but if the member is now seeking leave to table an article on the basis that there has been some debate about whether it was said, I will put the leave. I need the date and I need the source of the article. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ec5fc84a41164afab6216678df5aea97\u0022\u003EHon Steven Joyce\u003C/span\u003E: I will have to come back to you on the date. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223fead9fc65684cb880530097999cc544\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] I will wait till later. Supplementary question, Dr Megan Woods. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cd9690b19418464cbdaa7af5bd6f4c67\u0022\u003EDr Megan Woods\u003C/span\u003E: Did the original business case for the Christchurch Schools Rebuild programme show Addington School was scheduled for completion by the start of 2016 and the new Wigram school completed by the end of 2017; if so, why is he only announcing the commencement of these projects this week? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e9ef66aeb14744e09ebfbe8616547405\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: There are two supplementary questions there. The Minister can address one. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002234fca81f4c3540d380630ba213bb4b09\u0022\u003EHon TIM MACINDOE\u003C/span\u003E: I do not have all of the information the member is asking for, but I know she was delighted to be with me yesterday for the turning of the sod on that property at Wigram. I can assure her that the entire community is absolutely delighted with that development. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022af0088fe45d34af78d8d8020e523d08e\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 10 to Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022 data-id=\u00222c81bf4b773d4639866491efea299eb6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a244152-977c-48d2-bf53-4f3a369a27a9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222c81bf4b773d4639866491efea299eb6\u0022\u003EHon STEVEN JOYCE (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave to table a New Zealand Herald article of Wednesday, 21 October 2015, where MP Stuart Nash called for a levy on the commercial use of water\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022 data-id=\u002287660e8bdfe44774a1fc2a8933960323\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002287660e8bdfe44774a1fc2a8933960323\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! [Interruption] Order! The article has been described. [Interruption] Order! In view of the issues that have developed in question time, I am going to put that leave. It is for the House to decide. Leave is sought to table that particular article from the New Zealand Herald. Is there any objection to it being tabled? There is objection. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00223b077f1927fb439b94e43517b9a5c170\u0022\u003EHealth Services, Auckland\u2014Elective Surgeries, Access, and Demand\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022 data-id=\u00223d4035654feb411db1d94ed2ea9c091e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223d4035654feb411db1d94ed2ea9c091e\u0022\u003EJENNY SALESA (Labour\u2014Manukau East)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Health: Does he take any responsibility after nine years of a National-led Government for delivering a health system where in just four weeks more than 700 elective surgeries in Auckland have been postponed, leading to clinicians saying \u201Cit\u2019s not a sustainable system\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022 data-id=\u0022326f30f59de44948b7a6e50b173df6d4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022326f30f59de44948b7a6e50b173df6d4\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN (Minister of Health):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, including 18,500 extra elective surgeries and 48,000 more first specialist assessments across Auckland, as well as the new $39 million Elective Surgery Centre, the $9 million Waitakere emergency department, and the $10 million North Shore outpatients clinic. In regard to so-called elective delays due to winter-type illnesses, I have been informed this afternoon that there have been no elective delays at Waitemat\u0101 District Health Board (DHB) due to winter illnesses, which calls into question the basic premise of her question. Be that as it may, despite 1 million flu vaccinations this year, there has been an unusually large number of presentations at hospitals. However, the district health boards have processes in place to cope.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002255b0fca062684083965ed419de542059\u0022\u003EJenny Salesa\u003C/span\u003E: How will he respond to the record demand and bed shortages in Auckland, which led to the Counties Manukau chief medical officer saying it is the highest and fastest rate of increase in demand for services the DHB has ever experienced?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a599e6c0581843bb9235132afc13cd2d\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: I think the member should remember that there is $57 million more going into Counties Manukau this year as of 1 July. That provides funds for that DHB to distribute as it sees fit to meet population growth and demand pressures.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221d3f85fdcaa54080960cbf9a8a4deb03\u0022\u003EJenny Salesa\u003C/span\u003E: Did he check with every DHB around the country before he claimed on Checkpoint last Friday that every DHB is managing to deliver the operations that are needed?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229c35d772a4094ce3a5b2d50e0d16c82f\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: I do not need to check with DHBs around that because it is a fact that we are delivering 50,000 more operations than 8 years ago. You only have to look at those Auckland regional district health boards, where the percentage of operations in Auckland DHB has gone up by 60 percent over 9 years, Counties Manukau DHB has had an increase of 34 percent, and at Waitemat\u0101 DHB the percentage of electives has increased by 74 percent over 9 years. That is a whopping extra 8,500 operations per year for the people of the Waitemat\u0101 District Health Board.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002254bc5615a18e4cc9814cc8caf9b4b171\u0022\u003EJenny Salesa\u003C/span\u003E: What action has he taken in the last 2 years to decrease GP fees for adults, in light of the 44 percent increase in the average GP fee since 2008, which can force people to turn up to hospitals for health services?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227cdda59616734ab2b4a81c6108a6dac5\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: I have got to say these are much better questions than\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225a55cc3e6283469686222792aebebae1\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! We will just have the answer, thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022302f979405254e31b8dc0a31c9a1f423\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: Be that as it may, the member knows that GP fees are actually set in consultation with the DHB, but the bigger picture is there is an extra $5 billion that has gone into health under the course of this Government to increase access to health services.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022af5fdc8143354d4bb70c702ce15ed6f4\u0022\u003EJenny Salesa\u003C/span\u003E: After 9 years in Government, is it now acceptable to him that patients are forced to sleep in waiting rooms in Auckland City Hospital because there are no spaces available for them?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022603ae58e-47c4-46f9-bfc8-8355a48988ad\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002210ff997f76264e4395aaeb3c8e0242b1\u0022\u003EHon Dr JONATHAN COLEMAN\u003C/span\u003E: I would have to go and verify those claims, but I think it is pretty unlikely. The fact is that services at Auckland District Health Board have increased dramatically, and there is another $69 million going into that DHB as of 1 July this year to complement the extra $436 million that Auckland DHB has received over 9 years. But, look, there is no doubt that in health there is always more to do.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002244bd66420e004de28a08c4b7d1defa19\u0022\u003EGeneral Debate\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002291a61590923a465ba19518a13c5067c9\u0022\u003EGeneral Debate\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022 data-id=\u0022bf1f547212254c08ab8bf38da3ea2451\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bf1f547212254c08ab8bf38da3ea2451\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT (Deputy Prime Minister):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the House take note of miscellaneous business. What a week we have seen in politics, and it has been a week. I am sure the Opposition can appreciate the lows, the highs, the lows, the highs, the lows, the lows, and the lows that it has been going through. As I said, you can change the lead singer, and the spotlight might go on, and the lights might be a bit shiny, but if the band is still out of tune, then nobody is listening. And the band is not just out of tune; it is actually still playing the same old song. I quite like that the first policy that Jacinda Ardern said she would stick with was R \u0026amp; D tax credits. That is from 2007, guys\u20142007. Most of the water stuff that we heard today was the same as Labour had in 2014, I have got to say. I think the highlight of it all for me was Saturday\u2019s regional fuel tax, which was its policy, again, in 2007. So the song is still the same, and I can tell you, I do not reckon the public is going to listen for that long. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003ESo in the first week\u2014in the first week\u2014we have seen two new taxes be introduced by Labour, and those two new taxes are going to put costs on the very people it purports to care most about. Those disadvantaged New Zealanders who are struggling daily\u2014who, yes, do eat our food and need our farmers to actually produce that for them, and who actually do drive their cars\u2014are going to see extra costs on them and their households from the very party that is supposed to be doing the most for them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003EMan, do we have a marriage of convenience that has become very inconvenient and more than a bit awkward, I think, in the last few days. You know that memorandum of understanding (MOU)? Actually, I think MOU now stands for a \u201Cmarriage of unpleasantness\u201D, because that is pretty much what it is. We had Andrew Little, of course, who is the runaway bride\u2014one of, I think, about four or five we have had so far. Then, of course, we have got Jacinda Ardern, who has stepped up to take his place. Now she has found herself pretty much at the altar with a partner whom there is no way she is in love with. She does not quite know what to do with the other one, and it is all starting to get a bit awkward. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003EI am not quite sure whether Metiria is actually going to be at the altar or not. Has that decision really been made? We have still got the co-leader of the Greens, who is still the co-leader of the Greens, yet not a Minister in any sort of Government\u2014which they have to form together, by the way, just to get numbers that are anywhere close to being on the Government benches. Well, we have not clarified whether or not that member might actually be a Minister outside of Cabinet, because we have not actually heard from the Labour leadership\u2014I am looking forward to hearing about that\u2014as to whether or not it is genuinely ruling out Metiria Turei as a Minister outside of Cabinet. I think the public deserves to know that. By her own accountabilities, she is not fit to be around the Cabinet table and was withdrawn from that, but Labour, of course, wants to withdraw itself completely from any kind of conversation that goes to it. Literally, though, the Greens and Labour cannot live without each other and are still going through what I will call their marriage of inconvenience.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003EThen we have got New Zealand First, which is there trying to be the backup band, trying to say that it has to be around that table. Winston Peters is in the wings trying to make out that he is the one who is actually playing the tune, and I am not sure how that is going. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003EThe guest list is looking decidedly messy. It is a messy divorce before the dowry has even been paid. It is a messy divorce with no real direction, so I look forward to the next few weeks. I look forward to going out there and talking to New Zealanders about what is genuinely important to them\u2014about the growth in this country, about the direction that it is going. You will not hear this side saying\u2014as we have heard from Labour members repeatedly, they are not sure what to do with the growth, so they will just whack on more tax and, actually, they think we should take a breather. Well, this is not about taking a breather; this is actually about driving forward the advantages that this country already has, which New Zealanders are up for. What New Zealanders are looking for is leadership and a Government that can really keep them moving in the right direction. To the Opposition: rock on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e7bf04e4-2cce-41b2-8b4e-e7277074e5c2\u0022 data-id=\u002276f11bfc315445b89e20f62c53e24f2a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e7bf04e4-2cce-41b2-8b4e-e7277074e5c2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002276f11bfc315445b89e20f62c53e24f2a\u0022\u003EBARRY COATES (Green):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare. Ng\u0101 mihi nui ki a koutou. That speech from the Hon Paula Bennett is a classic example of the Government\u2019s bombast on the economy. We repeatedly hear the Government saying what a wonderful economic manager it is, but we should remind the Government that we have just had a second quarter of negative, real terms, per capita growth\u2014that is two terms of decline in per capita GDP. It is not only population that is pumping up the figures for the Government in a desperate attempt to make it look like it is a good economic manager; it is polluters. They are getting away without paying for the cost of their pollution. You cannot swim in 60 percent of our rivers. It is mining on conservation land, subsidised by taxpayers who are picking up the bill for cleaning up after oil production and mining. There has been a 19 percent increase in greenhouse gas emissions that are uncosted, and we have heard that the Government is about to pay $1.4 billion in the future in terms of foreign carbon credits.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e7bf04e4-2cce-41b2-8b4e-e7277074e5c2\u0022\u003EBy contrast, the Greens will bring in a sustainable economy. We will make polluters pay and we will clean up our rivers. We will defend our conservation land and we will save the 80 percent of native bird species that are threatened. We will invest in a green infrastructure fund to reduce our emissions and create exciting opportunities for businesses in the rapidly expanding clean economy. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e7bf04e4-2cce-41b2-8b4e-e7277074e5c2\u0022\u003EThe second way that the Government is pumping up the economy is by dirty money and speculation. Tax-dodgers and criminals have, according to the Financial Times, used New Zealand as a soft touch. We have seen speculation driving up house prices in New Zealand, and especially in Auckland, making it the most unaffordable city in the world. The Greens, by contrast, will ensure that we have a productive economy. We will put in a capital gains tax to divert money from housing into the productive economy. We will crack down on multinationals and tax-dodgers. We will restrict house purchases to New Zealand residents only. We will support our small to medium sized enterprises and ensure that they are not, as they are at the moment, disadvantaged by unfair competition from foreign multinationals. We will support innovation and add value to our agricultural commodities. At the moment, our unprocessed commodities are a higher proportion of our exports than they were when this Government got into office.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e7bf04e4-2cce-41b2-8b4e-e7277074e5c2\u0022\u003EThe Government has managed the economy for the benefit of the few, not the many. Twenty percent of kids live in cold, damp homes and they suffer from respiratory diseases as a result. We have the highest number of people on low incomes living under housing stress. We have the highest rate of homelessness in the world. The Greens will fix our ripped social safety net. We will boost benefits and provide incentives for work, and make the welfare system supportive, not punitive. Our economy should serve people, not the other way round.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e7bf04e4-2cce-41b2-8b4e-e7277074e5c2\u0022\u003EThe Greens will build an economy for all New Zealanders, not for the few. We will add value to our commodities by supporting innovation, supporting high skills, and making our society fairer and more equal. These are the ways that we will drive our economy towards sustainability, towards productivity, and towards fairness. These would be profound changes in the economy in New Zealand. We would be a low-emissions economy that has a reputation around the world\u2014deservedly so\u2014as one of the leaders in being truly a clean, green, and sustainable economy that provides benefits for all New Zealanders. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022 data-id=\u0022eedd802a043c423385288ca44b5b14e3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022eedd802a043c423385288ca44b5b14e3\u0022\u003EHon NATHAN GUY (Minister for Primary Industries):\u003C/span\u003E Farmers and growers up and down the country will be heading home later on this afternoon. They will be checking their mailboxes for their mail that comes through. They will be opening up those invoices today or maybe later in the week. There will be a special letter delivered to them today from the Labour Party. Inside there will be an invoice from Jacinda Ardern and David Parker. On the top of that letter it says: \u201CInvoice for water\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003EBut there is something a little different about this invoice. Normally, when farmers and growers get an invoice, it is for feed, it is for grazing, it is for buying stock, it is for fixing the tractor or doing up the irrigation system and the like, but this one is a blank invoice. It is a blank invoice delivered to all of our hard-working farmers and growers up and down New Zealand today. It does not have any detail about price. However, in the fine print at the bottom of the invoice there are some very important details that our growers and farmers must read: \u201CSorry, we haven\u2019t worked out how much we\u2019re going to charge you yet. I hope you understand that I\u2019ve only had a couple of days on the job. We\u2019re going to work that stuff through after the election, with the Greens, if we get into power. I know this stuff seriously impacts your livelihood, but try not to take it personally. Keep positive. Lots of love, Jacinda Ardern. Kiss, kiss.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003EToday\u2019s Labour announcement on water policy sucks. It is badly thought out; it is badly implemented. It is going to damage the most productive sector of the New Zealand economy, and that is the primary industries. Today Labour slammed the door shut on the primary sector. In the process, Damien O\u2019Connor got smashed to pieces. He got rolled by a caucus that is more excited about the urban vote than the rural vote. On that side of the House, they do not care about the regions. They do not care about provincial New Zealand. They do not care about hard-working farmers and growers up and down the country.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003ELet us just unpick this policy for a couple of minutes. Within 5 years, all intensively stocked land near waterways will be needed to be fenced but, importantly, there will be setbacks for riparian planting. Now, it is all well and good, is it not\u2014setbacks for riparian planting\u2014we applaud farmers who have made that decision. But let us think practically about the 26,000 kilometres that have already been fenced that may not have been riparian planted. So now Labour is out there proposing that all of those posts and wires should be pulled up and set back. Is it a metre? Is it 2 metres? Is that 4 metres across the entirety? Think about the productivity; think about the weeds that will grow. Think about the slowdown of the New Zealand economy as a result.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003EThen we come to the prices. Stuart Nash was exposed big time this afternoon, was he not? Because while Jacinda Ardern and David Parker are saying \u201CLet\u2019s all come together after the election.\u201D Stuart Nash is out there already proposing 10c a litre. Then, very importantly, if you extrapolate those numbers across\u2014I have got them here. Importantly, irrigation uses about 6 trillion litres annually across the country. So if you extrapolate 10c a litre across irrigators, that is $600 billion. Then, if you think about the water that needs to be utilised to produce just 1 litre of milk, that is $40 for a litre of milk. The cost of this policy is going to be enormous, and not just on the people who underpin the New Zealand economy, but consumers. Consumers are going to pay for this daft policy because up will go the price of vegetables; up will go the price of food. This policy is ludicrous.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003ENow my message to the people in the primary sector, who are really wound up on this policy announcement today, is that they should bombard Jacinda Ardern\u2019s email. They should be ringing her office and demanding a meeting this week or early next week, not putting it off until 24 September, because that is terrible.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022c94968bcb2a3462f9a8a29d6d27a348f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c94968bcb2a3462f9a8a29d6d27a348f\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E The member who just took his seat, Nathan Guy, is just making stuff up. Let me tell you why National members are making stuff up. They are making stuff up because they are worried. They have to talk like that. They have to downplay our policy, because they are worried. And why are they worried? That is because 8 days ago \u201CHurricane Ardern\u201D swept into this country and has taken the political establishment by storm, and they are worried.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EWe saw it today in their questions asking about parity and the women\u2019s pay gap. That is because they know they are bleeding the women\u2019s vote. They know that Jacinda Ardern has cut through with women. She has cut through with men. She has cut through with young people. We have cut through with M\u0101ori. We know that the National Government knows that the game has changed, and its members are worried\u2014absolutely scared.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EBut what are we here for in politics? We are here to make a difference for people. Let me tell you about one man I met on Saturday afternoon after the Northland rugby league final. May I just digress and congratulate the Moerewa Tigers for their win against the Takahiwai Warriors. But as I was walking out of that game, I met Victor. Victor is a 32-year-old fully qualified builder. He has got a young baby in his arms and the baby, he tells me, has a number of allergies that are life threatening. His wife, his partner, was there as well. Victor said to me \u201CLook, I\u2019ve saved $19,000 for a house,\u201D but the cost of a low-quartile house\u2014a low-value house\u2014in Whangarei, is such that he will need a $71,500 deposit. He has been working for 12 years. He said \u201CKelvin, I\u2019m struggling.\u201D If he works for another 12 years and can save at the same rate, he is only going to have $40,000 for a deposit when he needs $71,500. He will be 44 by that time. So if he works another 12 years, he is going to be 56 and he still will not have saved enough for a deposit to buy his house.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EVictor is struggling, and I thought to myself \u201CMy gosh, this is what we\u2019re here for\u2014to help people like Victor.\u201D What am I going to do as a politician? What are we going to do, as politicians, to help people\u2014not just this Victor, but all the other Victors right throughout the electorate of Te Tai Tokerau and all the other Victors and their families throughout New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThen as I was driving back to Auckland I thought \u201CActually, this is what we are going to do.\u201D We are going to fund a health system so that his son can get the medical attention that he needs. What else are we going to do? We are going to build thousands of houses to allow people like Victor to buy an affordable house. What are we going to do? Our families package is going to put just a little bit more extra money in their pockets so that maybe, as well as saving for a deposit, they can put a little bit away, something small, and do something special for their family. Look, Victor has to have something to hope for. He wants the dignity to be able to buy a house and give his family safety and security, like any other hard-working father in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EAnd what else are we going to do? We are going to make sure that\u2014it does not matter where Victor buys his house\u2014the nearest school is going to be an exceptional school. We are going to do small things like pay $150 a year for school fees also just to help Victor out so that he can probably put a little bit extra away for that little something special for his family. But not only that\u2014when his son finally gets to university, his son is going to be able to study for 3 years for free. So Victor has the hope that he will have a house. He has also got the hope inside him that his son does not have to carry on the struggle that Victor, his father, has. So that is what we are going to do for New Zealand. That is what we are going to do for all the Victors in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003ESo let\u2019s do it. Let\u2019s do this for Victor. Let\u2019s do this for Victor\u2019s partner. Let\u2019s do this for Victor\u2019s son. Let\u2019s do this for all New Zealanders and make sure that all New Zealanders get on with life and have a little bit for the family. We do not ask for much. All we ask is that every Victor in New Zealand is able to provide for his family and have hope and dignity that his child\u2019s struggle is not going to be the same as his struggle.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022 data-id=\u0022fc637b5fbedc4dbeb9635e1983700af7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fc637b5fbedc4dbeb9635e1983700af7\u0022\u003EHon DAVID BENNETT (Minister of Veterans\u2019 Affairs):\u003C/span\u003E I am going to tell you what they are going to do for Victor: the Labour Party is going to destroy the New Zealand economy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EThe first thing that we see today in Labour\u2019s water policy\u2014I want to see that member, Kelvin Davis, go to Ng\u0101i Tahu, who are doing a major investment with irrigation in the North of Canterbury, and tell them that they cannot do that anymore. That is what you did today. The Ng\u0101i Tahu development is closed. It is gone. It cannot happen under Labour. What about your M\u0101ori caucus with that? What about going around the rest of the country and telling the farmers that they cannot produce; that they have to cut down the number of stock on a property; and that, as the Minister said, they have to fence inordinate lengths and they have to re-fence? Go to all those sheep and beef farms in Northland and tell them that they have got to fence every little waterway. I would love to see you do that, mate, because you would last about 2 minutes with them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EAnd with your mates over here\u2014New Zealand First\u2014this guy here, Mr Winston Peters, has been going around the country saying that he is going to stop these plans around water. He is going to stop this. He has been going to Waikato. His very candidate from the Waikato stood in the regional council against plans that are half as bad as Labour\u2019s. Come on, Winston. Stand up and tell the truth about what you actually want to do.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c8dd404ab6904032995ee4634632578e\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I know that there is a reason why that member is infringing against parliamentary rules; it is because he is going to go shortly, but he cannot get away with it now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a139da99c8dd4c598c3cc9549428df9f\u0022\u003EMr DEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: You cannot get away with making a point of order like that, but I assume the point of order you are wanting to make is that he has to refer to a member correctly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227a4c15c9a0f04849aa649eb3f48f5d9f\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Precisely.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225389ee062ea1400692a6a402da1c2c1f\u0022\u003EMr DEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The point of order is very well made. The member will refer to members with the correct intitule.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002251d16fddd8ac44cd90505851f160d3c9\u0022\u003EHon DAVID BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: Let us have a look at this policy. This policy says\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002293dbdda5ac394b468d9b45f7e2c668ac\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Unpick it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022209f261b2d4948c789af9aa1546ba194\u0022\u003EHon DAVID BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: Yes. Look at the policy\u2014irrigation of farms.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b2567d3e-a09c-47b4-bd50-2f5bb4049762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229a9db1ad05b443ef82f82e9ef489aaf5\u0022\u003ESue Moroney\u003C/span\u003E: Are you worried about the famers\u2019 vote? Is that going out too?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e606b2b6cecc4860bfa7d5babd8e2829\u0022\u003EHon DAVID BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: I will come to that, Sue Moroney. Irrigation of farms\u2014what about farmers who have bore water out in the Waikato? Do they have to pay for the bore water? We do not know. How about horticulturalists? Do they have to pay? We do not know. How about businesses that use water, like the breweries or any of those kinds of businesses that use large amounts of water for their production? Do they have to pay? Do dams have to pay? Apparently not. Do cities have to pay? Does Auckland have to pay the Waikato for our water? I reckon that is what the Labour Party is wanting to do, but it is not actually going to do it, because it knows it cannot do that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EThe leader of the Labour Party was on TV this week, and she said that it has to be a consistent policy. There is no consistency in this policy. It is a deliberate attack on farming communities, the productive heart of this country, and it will ruin this country\u2014and it cannot happen. In the Waikato there have been a number of proposals to do this through the regional council, and it has taken an 80-year plan. The Labour Party intends to do a lot more than that in one generation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EIn one generation the Labour Party wants to clean up every river in New Zealand. That is not possible in the plan that this country has got through our regional councils. Work needs to be done in that area; nobody disputes that. We need to work on our water quality, but we cannot do that at the expense of our productive sector in one fell swoop. That is a deliberate and prolonged attack on the dairy sector and other sectors in the New Zealand economy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EThis shows the true colours of the leader of the Labour Party. The leader of the Labour Party is not a moderate Labour person. She will want to be seen on TV as the smiley, moderate person. The leader of the Labour Party is actually a Green Party member. The leader of the Labour Party is taking Green transport policy and Green water policy, and that is the real nature of what we are seeing in this House today. This is a deliberate attack on New Zealand farmers and it should not go ahead, and it will be stopped at the ballot box, because people know that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EThe Labour Party is saying: \u201CTrust us. We\u2019ll negotiate after the election. We\u2019ll work out the price. We\u2019ll work out the distance. Come and talk to us. We\u2019ll be there.\u201D There is no way that it will do that. The Labour Party will screw every New Zealand farmer when it has got a chance\u2014that is its history. It will do that after the election, and the farmers will have no power when they walk into the room and try to negotiate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003ERemember what we are saying here if you are in the New Zealand agriculture business; if you are in the New Zealand downstream businesses, in every little town through this country; if you are in every provincial city that relies on agriculture for its base; and if you are in every major city that relies on exports coming from our agriculture\u2014Labour will kill this industry. It will kill New Zealand. And Labour will not be allowed to get away with it, because the public out there will stop it on 23 September.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EWe cannot have this attack on the productive heart of New Zealand. It will take away jobs. It will take opportunities, and it will take away the future of New Zealand. And shame on all that side of the House who are going to stand behind it and let it happen. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022 data-id=\u00220e5cb0d43246408e9ef7b5a8c37aaec6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220e5cb0d43246408e9ef7b5a8c37aaec6\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour\u2014Hauraki-Waikato):\u003C/span\u003E It is true. In the boardrooms, in the staff room, in the smoko halls, under the bonnets, even on the farms, and in those places where people are meeting, they are talking about what Labour proposes to do. It is true.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EIt is true because people want to understand that there can be a different way. I have heard the contribution of the member David Bennett around farmers. Now, what he did not say was what has happened in the Waikato with the healthy rivers plan\u2014they are already making decisions around the change in land use that impacts on water. That was done through a consultative process and that was done with agreements of people from very different sectors, knowing that the hope is to improve water quality and by changing land use over a long period of time\u2014not all of a sudden\u2014things could be done for the betterment of the environment. So it is true, people are talking about the policies that Jacinda Ardern is announcing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ESo let us look at them, because behind them sit some very strong ideas that will drive the future of the country if Labour gets the privilege to serve as the Government. Under Labour, the economy will be about people before profit. Under Labour, we will prioritise public interests over private interests. Under Labour, we will see investment in health and in education so that opportunity is made real for the majority of people, not just the few. And under Labour, we will see the prioritisation of an economy that is underpinned by environmental responsibilities. So let us look at some of the things that have been announced just over these last few days since the leadership change in Labour.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThe regional petrol tax\u2014the Government will frame this as yet another tax, but Aucklanders want to see less congestion. They want to see more investment in public transport. They do want to see a link to the airport, because if you are going to get movement to and through the city, your public transport system underpins what can be an effective use of public infrastructure and investment in public infrastructure to get people around the city in a more efficient way. People are worried about congestion in Auckland and they think about the lost opportunity of people just sitting in cars on motorways. So yes, a regional petrol tax will ring-fence investment into where there is need, and there is need in Auckland.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EBut let us take the issue of water pricing. The reason why Jacinda Ardern said that this is a matter that must, in the first 100 days, go to a forum where people need to talk about it\u2014just like pricing on carbon, pricing on water will require people to think about how we transition towards an effective and efficient system. She has sent a clear signal to people that Labour is prepared to deal with the issue of putting a price on water so that the more sustainable use of water can be dealt with as a strategic priority, but how that happens over a period of time is something that must happen by talking with key stakeholders. So this is a key signal to farmers, to business people, to irrigators, and to environmentalists that Labour is prepared to have the conversation. It is a strategic conversation and it is a necessity. Pricing on carbon is the same type of debate, and Labour never shied away from that either.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ESo yes, people are talking about it, and it is true. It will require a shift in priority from where the effort is now to where the investment should be for tomorrow. It is about the next generation, and it is about a strategic vision for the future, because the structural challenge that we have as a nation is in reversing inequality and poverty and the significant gap between the haves and the have-nots. So that is why people are talking about the policies that Jacinda Ardern has been announcing over the last couple of days, and we welcome it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EWe welcome it because no longer can people sleep in cars, no longer can people live in cold rentals, and no longer can people see the dim prospect of purchasing a home. Under Labour we want to see that reverse. But more importantly, for our kids\u2014we do not want to see 70,000 of our kids not engaged in education, employment, or training. We want to ensure that where there is investment there is opportunity, and that that can be realised in a very real way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EJust coming back to the water issue\u2014actually, planting off riverways could create opportunities for many young people. Riparian planting, fencing, and all of that could help people get back to the grass roots and to making a difference at a community level. I know my community would welcome it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u00223bef5fbe4a88420c8d949679adc06360\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223bef5fbe4a88420c8d949679adc06360\u0022\u003EBARBARA KURIGER (National\u2014Taranaki - King Country):\u003C/span\u003E I am wondering how that member, Nanaia Mahuta, and her party are going to pay for all the things that they have been talking about this afternoon, like helping Victor pay for his house, and all the other wonderful things that she has mentioned, like health and education. The only way Labour is going to do it is by taxing farmers and sending them broke. Tax farmers\u2014tax the people who are making 70 percent of the trade out of this country! While they are actually busy out there at the moment, calving their cows and about to lamb their lambs, let us give them a blank invoice, as Minister Guy said. Let them write out a blank cheque!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EOne of the reasons I came into this House was that I was pretty keen to close up the rural-urban divide. Absolutely, today, with this announcement, the Labour Party is turning the rural-urban divide into a chasm. We are all in this water debate together. There is no consistency in Labour\u2019s policy. There is not even any detail in Labour\u2019s policy. We absolutely do not know what it means.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003ETwo or 3 years ago, when the dairy price was going down, down, down, guess who was sitting on the other side of this House going \u201CCrisis! Crisis!\u201D? Now dairy farmers are actually getting back into a better space, where they can make some money and can pay some tax, and all of a sudden that party wants to take it all off them. Well, that party does not even know it is trying to create a crisis. Its members sit over there and talk about regional New Zealand, and they talk about provincial New Zealand. I will tell you what\u2014provincial New Zealand is starting to do pretty nicely. It is getting broadband, it is getting roads, it is getting policing, and it is getting all of the things that it needs to develop\u2014provincial New Zealand. And, hello, guess what? Labour is going to make it a ghost town, because there will be nobody living out there. So we have got to keep going with the programmes that we are on about.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EThe other thing I would really like to know from that side of the House is\u2014its members talk about taking young people who are on benefits out to fence waterways and to plant trees. I do not think that is such a bad idea, except that I am wondering: do they know where \u0100ria is? Do they know where Te Anga is? Do they know where Marokopa and Tokirima are? How are they actually going to get there? It is all very commendable, but, you know, you are going to have to have a hell of a lot of transport to do that. Labour has not thought it through.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EBy the way, farmers in Taranaki have already, in Taranaki alone, planted 4.3 million trees. That is in Taranaki alone. That is waterways fenced off. That is trees planted. That is, actually, almost a tree for every person who lives in New Zealand, and that is in Taranaki alone. Farmers are actually out working on these things, and, in my experience, all that farmers want to know is: \u201CWhere am I now? Where do you need to go? Help me; provide the tools. Give me the tools. Help me with the productivity.\u201D There is a whole lot of new smart technology coming on that is going to help those waterways. That is why we are putting broadband in. That is why we are making it happen. Farmers are quite capable and are doing these things on their own.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EWhat is really interesting is that households and councils would be exempt, and that the money would be used to assist cleaning up the polluted waterways. OK, so farmers are already planting trees and fencing and cleaning up their waterways, and now we are going to tax them, according to the Labour Party, so that we can take some more money off them so that they can pay again to do what they are already doing? We are all in this together. We have got a map of what is happening with waterways out in the country, and it is not just the farmers who are responsible for what is happening in the waterways. They have done their share.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EWhen we talk about irrigation\u2014I have got a lovely little map here, and it talks about natural river flow being maintained. It talks about nutrient management plans but also coastal biodiversity. Guess what? With irrigation, you can actually help coastal biodiversity. Flow is restored to lowland spring-fed streams. All communities and marae have access to high-quality drinking water\u2014thriving and prosperous communities. It does not actually take that much to work out. It is not rocket science that everybody in our community benefits from water storage.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EAnd, hello, people, we do not have a shortage of water. Look outside on most days. On any given day of 2017, it has been raining. All we need to do is store it and use it wisely. So, New Zealand, let us not do this. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022 data-id=\u00228bcdae7c6d5e43f59581f98723b830af\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228bcdae7c6d5e43f59581f98723b830af\u0022\u003ERON MARK (Deputy Leader\u2014NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E Well, it is astonishing sitting here listening to these two old parties arguing. And, I have got to say, one thing we all know\u2014nanna told me a long time ago\u2014is that leopards do not change their spots, do they?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EAfter our leader, the Rt Hon Winston Peters, had done his magnificent tour of provisional New Zealand, actually visiting all the places that that member, Barbara Kuriger, just talked about\u2014and my questions to that member are (1) do you know where those places actually are and (2) can you pronounce them? But our leader has been there, and the picture being painted is quite different to that which National is deluding itself over.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EWhat we found absolutely astonishing was that when Winston Peters came back from the provincial tour, suddenly National and Labour rediscovered the provinces and put their hands up and said: \u201CMe too. We too are concerned about the provinces.\u201D But a day is a long time in politics, we say, and a week is an eternity. And 1 week later, with a change in Labour leadership, suddenly we are back to reality: it is a myopic focus, relentlessly positive, on Auckland\u2014Auckland, Auckland, Auckland, Auckland. It has not been missed, out there in provincial New Zealand, can I tell the National Party. Now, National Party, they are hearing you guys say \u201CAuckland, Auckland, Auckland, Auckland.\u201D all the time, and they are saying: \u201CNothing\u2019s changed.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EWhile we sit here and listen to the old hat parties, Pepsi and Coke, arguing over Auckland\u2019s woes on its roads, provincial New Zealand is saying: \u201CHow come funding assistance for rural roads has been cut? How come we\u2019re staring down the barrel of a one-road network plan from NZTA that\u2019s going to carve up provincial New Zealand and cause some tarseal roads to go back to gravel? How come we\u2019ve got no funding assistance for the tens of thousands of one-way bridges throughout provincial New Zealand? And, by the way, you still haven\u2019t built the 10 in Northland\u2014how come?\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EDo not bleat on about \u201CAuckland, Auckland, Auckland\u201D to us in the Wairarapa when the gorge is still closed and there is not one digger on site. Do not whine to us in your silly little squabble with Labour\u2014a silly squabble over rail, fast rail, light rail, and roading problems\u2014when provincial New Zealand is dying, not for its own lack of work ethic, not because it is not on the game, not because it does not have the best farmers in the world, but because it does not have infrastructure support from this Government. This Government is now in a bidding war with Labour over Auckland, Auckland, Auckland. Well, out in provincial New Zealand there is a message coming. There is a train coming. It is going to follow that bus that went right around the country. On that train is going to be New Zealand First, and it is going to come in with a mandate and an endorsement from provincial New Zealand that will tell the National Government that, clearly, it is over\u2014over.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EDo not talk to us about Labour\u2019s water plan. We know it is a load of rubbish. We know that Labour has forgotten the poor. We know that Labour does not understand the impact on poor families, the working poor, and how it is going to hit them in the supermarkets. We know that. We had the discussions with Federated Farmers; we know what food production prices will do. We know all that. But, National, do not sit there gloating. We are not interested in your silly little speeches. Tell us what you did behind the scenes with the deal with the Waikato authority over fifty-fifty allocation with M\u0101ori and royalties to M\u0101ori. Who is going to be paying that?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EDo not talk to us about these things, and do not talk to us about the impact on farmers when you are signing off and endorsing the Horizons Regional Council\u2019s One Plan. The One Plan\u2014in that document it says that farm profitability will drop by 40 percent.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002252e48891e95d48b1ae1c88dc633fd0de\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: How much?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eb65b59cd3db48a784df811ad68e134a\u0022\u003ERON MARK\u003C/span\u003E: Farm profitability will be cut by the Horizons Regional Council under this Government\u2014by this Government allowing it to go through\u2014by 40 percent, or, in a best case, 20 to 25 percent. That is going to see farmers walking off their land. That is going to see farmers being told by Horizons: \u201CYou can no longer farm dairy\u2014sell your cows.\u201D Those farmers will probably try to sell their farms to Jacinda Ardern or the front bench of the Labour Party, which now wants to put them out of business as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EBut you are both the same, National and Labour. There is no difference. This lot purports to represent the poor, but it is just going to hand the poor a grocery bill that they have never ever thought of or dreamt of. And over on that side of the House, the National Government is going to preside over the death of farming in the Horizons region. We are tired of Pepsi and Coke. It is time for a change.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022 data-id=\u00220d9742af185a44e0a7ab9d90c6a2730a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220d9742af185a44e0a7ab9d90c6a2730a\u0022\u003EMr DEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: It is\u2014your time is up.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022 data-id=\u0022435859ccca704c80b9fa75b3e80c822f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022435859ccca704c80b9fa75b3e80c822f\u0022\u003EJOANNE HAYES (National):\u003C/span\u003E Might be Lemon and Paeroa over there, eh? Anyway, I am really mad as hell about this water policy that Labour is touting around the countryside. I am mad as hell because this is harking right back to the Rogernomics days when Labour kicked the guts out of farmers. I am standing here, and I am going to be a voice for the sheep and beef farmers, because that is where I come from. Those are my roots\u2014sheep and beef farming.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003ETo kick the guts of the farmers again\u2014is that the only Labour policy that is actually coming out there? I am going to say that the primary sector\u2014and I will keep on saying this, along with my colleagues\u2014is the backbone of the economy of this country. It always has been and it always will be. If you tax the water that farmers use, you may as well just kiss this economy goodbye. Not once have I heard from the Opposition members on how they are going to replace that piece of the economy. I have not heard a damn thing, just \u201CLet\u2019s kick the guts out of the farmers\u201D. I do not want to see any farmer in this country go back to those days.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003ELet us talk about forestry. I think it was under\u2014let us have a think. Oh, yes, it was a Labour-led Government that strip-felled between Rotorua and Taup\u014D. Yes, there were lovely farms there, but it strip-felled and it never replaced those trees. When we start to look at all the things that Labour has not done for this country, and things that it is proposing in its tax, tax, tax, and spend\u2014nowhere in any of the things that it is saying is how it is going to grow the economy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EIf you take out the primary sector, we will see an increase in unemployment. Three hundred and fifty thousand people work in the primary sector. There is touted be another 50,000 more people who will be looking to work in this sector up to 2025. When we start to look at that water policy, we are going to see all of that gone. All of those people are going to be lining up, with Victor, on the unemployment benefit, because this water tax will have kicked the guts out of their bosses and out of the primary sector, and they will have lost their jobs.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003ESo we will have an increase in unemployment, an increase in the number of beneficiaries, and an increase in the cost of food products. Just today I was having a talk with some of my colleagues, and they talked about how once you start increasing the cost of food to all New Zealanders, that is when we start to look at the imported stuff. That would be a very sad day. The previous Prime Minister, Sir John Key, set this country up so that we would be like the farmers market of the world\u2014of the world. This country has been set up for that, and under the Labour Party water policy that is going to be chucked out the back door. We will no longer be competitive. We will lose our trade advantage, because our farmers will be pushed to the wall. They will be pushed to the wall, and we cannot have that on this side of the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI can see our farmers coming out in protest on that particular bill. I can see Labour on the Opposition benches for another 3 or another 6 years because it has not got\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b78c6f7c44344516a84990948a3d4e26\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Probably 9.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f4e91312efe7462ea85ee7eb3259c4ae\u0022\u003EJOANNE HAYES\u003C/span\u003E: For 9 years it is going to be there over there rotting, because its policies are about attack, tax, and spend, and no way is it going to replenish those coffers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EIn fact, National has replenished those coffers. That is why we are in surplus. We are in surplus; we are leading the world when it comes to surplus for this country. So when we start looking at that, we see that Labour\u2019s policies are wanting to spend all of that. Labour is wanting to take us back to those dark ages, and we are not going to go back there. We are going to be standing there fighting alongside our people within the primary sector, because they deserve a voice in this House. All of this side is giving them their voice.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003ELet us talk about M\u0101ori farmers, because not just the P\u0101keh\u0101 farmers; it is the M\u0101ori farmers as well who will not benefit from a water tax. We have just managed to get them to a point whereby everybody is starting to make headway within the primary sector, and that side of the House wants to cut it out. New Zealand First sits over there and talks about Pepsi and Coke. Well, it is just a flat Lemon and Paeroa\u2014a flat Lemon and Paeroa. You would not even have it with your gin, and you would not even have it with your vodka. It is so flat you would not even put ice in that Lemon and Paeroa. I should not really say Lemon and Paeroa, should I, because that is a New Zealand town, Paeroa. I should really say\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022da3183cddde64a19be07aea0a730ec33\u0022\u003EHon Scott Simpson\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s right. In the Coromandel electorate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f85fe0c133884e3d84ec12ee6cb0a33b\u0022\u003EJOANNE HAYES\u003C/span\u003E: Ha! I should really say that it is some sort of foreign something from overseas that that group is. It is absolutely a nothing, coming in here and saying that to us. This side of the House is the side that has actually grown this country and the economy, and we will continue to do that after this election when we are voted back in.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022 data-id=\u0022d55000b35a7749aa9fd9f5c104bb3c2b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d55000b35a7749aa9fd9f5c104bb3c2b\u0022\u003EKRIS FAAFOI (Labour\u2014Mana):\u003C/span\u003E The Deputy Prime Minister finished her contribution to the general debate saying \u201Crock on\u201D, but the real thing is \u201Cit\u2019s on\u201D. It is on out there, and the thing is that the National Government knows it. Its members were sitting in their seats 2 weeks ago, kind of complacent, thinking this is in the bag, thinking that everything is all right: \u201CBill English is our leader\u2014you know, we don\u2019t really like him; he\u2019s a bit boring, but he\u2019ll be OK. He\u2019ll get us through.\u201D But things have changed, and the National Government is worried. I know that because you can just sense it in the air. Its members are hearing it when they out there campaigning out in their electorates: \u201COh, we were thinking about voting for you guys, but not anymore.\u201D There is something else, there is another alternative, and I am looking forward to that day when things do change.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EI hope they do change for the people of my electorate, because I look forward to the day when houses are being built in the spaces that are empty, where this Government pulled down homes and said it would replace them, but for 9 long years nothing has been done. I want to see families in those houses. I want to see kids playing on those streets, in those areas that have been left and ignored by this Government. Because that is what New Zealand needs. We need some solutions around housing. That is what I want to hear\u2014building going on in those neighbourhoods that this Government has neglected. It promised the 25 families who had their houses demolished that it would build those homes again, and nothing has happened.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EThat is what I want to see happen and hear happen in my community after 23 September, because it is on. It is on, and if you are listening to this on the radio or you are watching this on the internet, help us do it\u2014help us do it. Be part of it, because when things change, they change in the community, and we can show this Government, which has ignored those communities for the last 9 years, that it is not good enough to leave families in the lurch\u2014leave families in the lurch; that is exactly what it has done.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EWhat else do I want to see after 23 September, when we change the Government? Proper healthcare in our communities. I have been the MP for Mana for 7 years now, and twice I have had to fight to keep the GP service at Kenepuru Hospital open\u2014twice now. Back in about 2012, they said: \u201COh, we\u2019re thinking of closing it overnight.\u201D Why? \u201CBecause there\u2019s not enough money to run it.\u201D Six months ago, it was: \u201COh, we\u2019re going to look at it again.\u201D Why? \u201CBecause there\u2019s not enough money to run it.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EWe will make sure there is enough money going into health. We will not have to fight for the absolute basics for the people of Porirua and the K\u0101piti coast. We can make that happen on 23 September, because it is on. It is not \u201Crock on\u201D; that is what these guys wanted. It is not \u201Crock on\u201D. Rock on\u2014that is the Prime Minister; he is the rock. We are saying that it is on\u2014it is absolutely on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EThe other thing I want to do, and this is not necessarily something that\u2014the National Government says it is tough on law and order. I am going to keep crowing on about this until 23 September. Over the last 9 years of this National Government, which says it is backing our police, I have lost in my area over 40 front-line police officers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002209a5b71a-ca7e-4e7c-9e09-f9e63f18aa12\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002254c23a9dc93044a49a7f232418b2899a\u0022\u003EHon Annette King\u003C/span\u003E: How many?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227c7c81550015409f9e0725f8e4a105f7\u0022\u003EKRIS FAAFOI\u003C/span\u003E: It is 40. It is not my number\u2014theirs. We started out in 2008, and the number I got from the Minister\u2019s office was 146 front-line police officers in the K\u0101piti-Mana area. So when I asked what the number is now, what did I get back? There are 102. This is from a Government that says it is tough on law and order and is backing our police, and yet in my area we have lost 40 police officers over the last 8 years. Does that make my community any safer? Does that make members of that community feel any safer, when you have to tell them that they have lost 40 officers over the last 8 years? Is that what this Government is telling people? Apparently, this Government is telling people that there are more police on the streets. But that is not the reality.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003ESo ladies and gentlemen watching or listening at home, it is on. If you want action on housing, if you want building to happen for those families who want good, safe, affordable homes to rent and buy, it is on. If you want to make sure that people can get the operations they need, and see a doctor at 2 o\u2019clock in the morning if their kids are sick, then it is on. If you want to make sure your community is safe, with enough police officers\u2014and I can tell you one thing: police officers are coming up to me in the street and saying they are worried about the staffing levels in my area. If you are worried about the safety of your community and want to make sure there are enough\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002225559eab71a34612be74a3c6f43a0a1e\u0022\u003EMr DEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Are you asking me, or someone else?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022efaf6b3d0d174be4a06c949ed24fed08\u0022\u003EKRIS FAAFOI\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, I am sure you did in your time too, Mr Deputy Speaker. If the people are worried about crime prevention and having enough police, it is on. On 23 September get it on, get out and vote, and make sure we do this. As the catchphrase goes, as the slogan goes: \u201CLet\u2019s do this\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022 data-id=\u0022150505323f5a4ce6a53ddc8fee68807d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022150505323f5a4ce6a53ddc8fee68807d\u0022\u003EIAN McKELVIE (National\u2014Rangit\u012Bkei):\u003C/span\u003E I would like to remind Mr Faafoi that we on this side of the House knew this was on, on 21 September 2014. You worked it out only last week. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI want to talk for a little bit about the primary sector in New Zealand and what is going on out there. We currently produce about 70 percent of New Zealand\u2019s cash receipts in provincial New Zealand. We have GDP of about 7 percent, and that is not a bad thing. It shows we are reasonably efficient. Approximately 400,000 jobs rely on, or are directly involved in, agriculture. The farming community of New Zealand manages a large part of New Zealand\u2019s land mass, and the primary sector as a whole also oversees a good deal of our offshore economic zone. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e11a5f05-1940-41b2-8f1e-911dba7a43a5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225596f79384b34008aba1d93a25511c8e\u0022\u003EFletcher Tabuteau\u003C/span\u003E: We can\u2019t hear the man speak. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ca5b83da8700452f9fc67f5956bfac88\u0022\u003EIAN McKELVIE\u003C/span\u003E: Ah, that is good. There are some factors critical to the future success of this sector, both as a vital part of the New Zealand economy and as a good corporate citizen. A truly sustainable environment is absolutely critical to agriculture\u2014land and water. Playing our part in the climate change challenges and the solutions facing the world is critical to the future of our agricultural community, as well. Ensuring water is well used in a sustainable and productive manner is also critical, and ensuring our people involved in the sector are looked after and managed in a manner so that they can both enjoy life and get plenty out of it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EThere are, of course, many other factors involved in agriculture, and I will touch on a couple of them shortly. However, I want to\u2014appropriately, I guess\u2014talk about water. Having listened very carefully to the Leader of the Opposition speak this morning, I want to express my dismay that a person in her position can have such a poor, ill-conceived, and misrepresentative view of our No. 1 industry, and I will touch on that in a minute. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003ESome of the other critical things to agriculture are animal welfare, food safety, biosecurity, and health and safety. When you touch on the health and safety thing, I do not think Opposition members have thought for a minute about the ramifications of putting a whole lot of young people out in provincial rural New Zealand and, in a lot of cases, 50 to 100 kilometres from any kind of civilisation. Have they thought of the health and safety factors around that? No, they have not. Who is going to take responsibility for that? No doubt the future Government, if those members are to be the Government, will take responsibility for that. They have not considered it at all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EWe must learn from our past mistakes, and to tax, charge, and implement policy without science or solutions to rectify an issue is surely not in New Zealand\u2019s best interests. Farmers in New Zealand are great adaptors and innovators, who can move to best practice very quickly and effectively. National\u2019s policy has always been to assist our business communities with the tools to do so, not hit them with a sledgehammer. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI want to get on to a topic that Ron Mark touched on, and every time he speaks in this House he displays his lack of knowledge of provincial New Zealand, frankly, which I think is an amazing thing. None the less, he talked about the Horizons One Plan. I want to talk about some comments that the Leader of the Opposition made this morning in respect of issues that arise from the Horizons One Plan and the challenges that Horizons Regional Council has had in implementing that plan. Ron Mark did touch on that, although not correctly. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EOne of the real challenges we have got in New Zealand is to implement nitrate- and phosphate-leaching policies in a manner that can be managed, that is sustainable, and that will ensure that our provincial rural communities remain intact. To listen to the Leader of the Opposition this morning, she clearly had no\u2014I guess she did not gather the challenges that are involved in these plans that we have put in place, and the Waikato plan is now following the Horizons One Plan much down the same lines. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI do not have any problem with that. I do not think the agricultural sector has any problem with the ultimate goals of these plans. We certainly have problems with the implementation of these plans in 5 years, as the Leader of the Opposition talked about this morning. There is no way it can possibly work, and it will undermine provincial rural New Zealand. It will undermine our productivity. It will almost put a stop in parts of my electorate\u2014particularly the northern Horowhenua and the Waimarino\u2014to much of the horticulture that goes on there at present. It is also going to seriously challenge the horticultural areas around Pukekohe, but there will be no problem\u2014we will just shove the houses on them, I guess. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EThere are some significant challenges to the policy that the Labour Party announced this morning that go way beyond the fact that it is another tax and another, I guess, increase in costs to the production in our food sector. So there are some serious challenges around this, and I think the biggest one is the fact that we are trying to implement something without sufficiently enabling the science to assist in the solutions to it, because there will be solutions to this, but they just will not be achieved in 5 years. They might be achieved in the time frame that this Government has given it, and I think that is the reason we have managed it in a moderate manner to date. Thank you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022 data-id=\u00222c2d83223a8646af8f30e8ea40ff423f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222c2d83223a8646af8f30e8ea40ff423f\u0022\u003EJAN LOGIE (Green):\u003C/span\u003E It is a quote that has been used more than once, but it is one of my favourites, from Nelson Mandela, which is: \u201CThe true character of a society is revealed in how it treats its children.\u201D It seems to me, too, that the true character of a Government is also revealed in how it treats children.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EWe have had a lot of discussion in this House over the last 4 or 5 years about the well-being of our children. We have had debate after debate about trying to get school lunches in our schools so that we can feed our children and make sure that our children have enough. We have had debate after debate in this House about ensuring that families have enough money to sustain themselves, to be able to make sure that their children have food, that the parents can pay the rent to be able to keep the roof over their heads for them and their kids, and that they have got that money there for the shoes and the school trips and for fixing the car when needed\u2014to provide the childhood that I suspect most of us in this House took for granted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EWe have had debate after debate in this House about child protection, about how we, actually, as a society create the structures to support our families to be healthy, well, and violence-free so that our children grow up without fear and learn to thrive in the absence of violence. We have had a lot of discussions specifically about what kinds of mechanisms are needed from the State to intervene when things go wrong, and now, as we are getting to that point of another election, I want to reflect on how we have voted on those different topics.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EIt seems to me that there is a very clear pattern\u2014that the members on this side of the House and the Green Party, I am proud to say, have voted for feeding our kids. We have voted for increasing money for our families to be able to sustain themselves and protect their kids. We have voted consistently and spoken\u2014I say for myself, possibly too passionately\u2014about the need for early intervention around sexual violence and domestic violence, so that we get rid of those scourges on our society and bring back safety. On this side of the House we have been consistent and we have also strongly stood up for the M\u0101ori first - wh\u0101nau first approach to caring for children and have resisted heavy-handed State intervention in the absence of those basic protections of enough money and support for families.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003ESo I think we need to look at what the results are at the moment from the Government\u2019s approach. Is its approach working? Well, when I got up this morning and was coming in to work I was listening to the radio, and one of the stories was of a child who had been left in an Oranga Tamariki office and found by the cleaners after everyone else had gone home. To me, this feels emblematic. Ahead of the last election, this Government was told that it needed 352 more social workers to be able to meet the need it had then in responding to crises for our tamariki, and now we have 66 fewer social workers than we had then, despite the number of children being taken into care being at record levels. So is it any wonder that a child is being left in an office and forgotten about while the people whose job is to protect them are so stressed out and harried that they are unable to do the job that we profess to have given them? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EThe Green Party stands for our children being well fed, our families being well supported, and a society that can stand proud in our care and protection of our children.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EThe debate having concluded, the motion lapsed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022bf03d58587584b4abf3a73fcd919760d\u0022\u003ENew Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a17befbe978a4695be99f51cbb02d7e5\u0022\u003ESecond Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022 data-id=\u0022f4f19a3e566b4a36babbfc69f28f3e4e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f4f19a3e566b4a36babbfc69f28f3e4e\u0022\u003EJONATHAN YOUNG (National\u2014New Plymouth):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill be now read a second time. E ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 reo, e ng\u0101 hau e wh\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. The New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill addresses one of the more contentious land issues this Parliament has seen in recent years. This second reading of the bill marks the halfway point in its journey through this Parliament. It is a point in time that marks not only the very significant progress to date but also the beginning of an intensive period of consultation and k\u014Drero for the Waitara hap\u016B of Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua as they consider what this bill offers them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EThe M\u0101ori Affairs Committee has received over 100 submissions from throughout New Zealand and held public hearings in New Plymouth, Waitara, and Wellington. The Waitara land being dealt with by this bill has a long history and is reflective of New Zealand\u2019s history as a nation. Mr Deputy Speaker, while you may be familiar with Waitara\u2019s history, so much of New Zealand is not, and it is for the benefit of all New Zealand that I will place the history of Waitara on the record.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EIn 1860 the first shots of the New Zealand Land Wars were fired at Te K\u014Dhia P\u0101, just south-west of Waitara, over the Crown\u2019s attempted purchase of the Pekapeka Block. W\u012Bremu K\u012Bngi Te Rangitake refused to let the land at Waitara be sold, saying: \u201CI will not permit the sale of Waitara to the P\u0101keh\u0101. Waitara is in my hands, I will not give it up;\u201D. The Crown persisted in its purchase of the Pekapeka Block, despite its prior commitment not to purchase disputed land, and when it came time for the block to be surveyed, W\u012Bremu K\u012Bngi sent a party to prevent this, and it was at that time that martial law was declared.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EThroughout this process I have reflected on the words of W\u012Bremu K\u012Bngi\u2014those he made to Governor Browne about the Pekapeka Block in April of 1859, when he said: \u201CYou should remember that the Maories and Pakehas are living quietly upon their pieces of land, and therefore do not you disturb them.\u201D However, in March 1860 the Government took military possession of the Pekapeka Block and so began the first of the New Zealand\u2019s Land Wars. In 1861 peace was reached and an agreement to investigate the purchase of the Pekapeka Block. In the meantime, it remained occupied by military troops, and, before the investigation was completed in April 1863, Governor Grey renounced the purchase of the Pekapeka Block. Sadly, though, this did not help the people of Waitara, as it later became part of the land confiscated in 1865 for rebellion against the Crown. Over 1 million acres of Taranaki land was taken. The Crown apologised to Te Atiawa t\u016Bpuna and hap\u016B and wh\u0101nau for this dispossession in its 2014 deed of settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EThe Crown then granted much of the confiscated land in Waitara to settlers. However, it also transferred land to the borough council and the harbour board as what is termed \u201Cendowment land\u201D. These local bodies were transferred land in order to make an income to pay for the necessary infrastructure and services to build a town and harbour. Over time, this land was developed into leasehold land in order provide much needed housing and a reliable income stream for both the borough council and the harbour board. In the 1940s all land was consolidated into the hands of the Waitara Borough Council. The New Plymouth District Council took over the endowment land as part of the 1989 local government amalgamations. Since then, the district council has been attempting to address the historic issues in relation to this Waitara lands bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EThis bill is the council\u2019s third attempt at resolution, after previously promoting a local bill to Parliament in 1992 and, secondly, offering the land to the Crown for inclusion in Te \u0100tiawa\u2019s settlement. The revised bill now before the House is innovative, but I must mention that Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua hap\u016B are still working through the provisions in the bill, discussing this with their people. I look forward to seeing and hearing how that goes and am convinced that, with the leadership of the hap\u016B wanting to lay this issue to rest and move forward into a stronger future for themselves, and with the council\u2019s wanting to lay this issue to rest, the relationships and outcomes this bill engenders will be long-lasting and fruitful for everyone.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EFirstly, the bill provides that 45 percent of the endowment land would be returned to mana whenua. The committee reflected on the concerns of Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua hap\u016B, and so it has recommended that the bill also include a new Hap\u016B Land Fund to provide the two hap\u016B of Waitara with the rangatiratanga to build their social and cultural base in Waitara. This Hap\u016B Land Fund will comprise half of the proceeds that the district council receives from the leasehold land. The district council, which supports this new fund, advises me that it expects about $28 million will be available over the next 20 years for hap\u016B to buy, develop, and maintain land in and around Waitara, such as for papak\u0101inga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003ESecondly, the committee has continued a proposal to enable leaseholders to freehold their homes. The committee heard of the issues some leaseholders have faced when their 21-year lease cycle rolls around, and their desires to achieve the Kiwi Dream by owning their own home outright. Enabling leaseholders to freehold will mean they will live in peace, quietly, on their own pieces of land.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EThirdly, the committee has ensured that all funds from the lands are spent to the benefit of Waitara through co-governance mechanisms with mana whenua. The New Plymouth District Council\u2019s share will be spent by a co-governance board on the community well-being of Waitara. The board will have three members appointed by Te Atiawa and three members appointed by the district council. The funds will be invested into a new perpetual fund and the board will distribute the annual interest. In time, this could result in over $1 million being invested into the Waitara community each year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EThe committee has made two changes to the Taranaki Regional Council share, with the support of the Taranaki Regional Council. Firstly, the committee has set aside 70 percent of the regional council\u2019s proceeds to be dedicated to the environmental and cultural health and well-being of the Waitara River and its catchment, while 30 percent will be able to be used for regional council activities in Waitara or the lower river catchment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003ESecondly, the committee has amended the bill to provide that the regional council establish a new committee with equal appointments from the various mana whenua iwi of the Waitara River and the regional council for this spending. The regional council\u2019s funding will directly benefit the Waitara community, either through direct expenditure on the town and surrounds or through having a healthy river flowing through the town.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EThe New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill addresses one of the most vexed issues for one small Taranaki community, but they are issues that resonate throughout Taranaki. The M\u0101ori Affairs Committee has dedicated itself to ensuring that this bill provides benefits to all parties as much as possible, while recognising the different interests and issues that already exist.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EIn closing, I would like to thank the hard work of the leadership of the hap\u016B of Waitara, the trustees of Te Atiawa, the committee\u2019s advisers from the Office of Treaty Settlements\u2014in particular, Nashwa Boys\u2014and the Department of Internal Affairs. I would like to thank the committee members for their willingness to work with ideas on how to progress the bill, as well as the mayors of New Plymouth District Council\u2014both former mayor Andrew Judd and current mayor Neil Holdom\u2014for their vision. Thanks to their executive team\u2014to David Cochrane and his team. I would like to the regional council, and in particular David MacLeod and chief executive Basil Chamberlain for their cooperation around changes to the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003EWithout a willingness to find solutions and progress this issue, the Waitara community would not be able to anticipate the prospects of a strong, unified, prosperous future\u2014each on their own land, undisturbed and living in peace, in the spirit of what W\u012Bremu K\u012Bngi foresaw before the conflicts of the 1860s even began. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022d95dc0ef55364a07b4cd5a33449625e2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d95dc0ef55364a07b4cd5a33449625e2\u0022\u003EADRIAN RURAWHE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Hau\u0101uru):\u003C/span\u003E \u0100, t\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, otir\u0101, e tika ana kia tuku mihi atu ki ng\u0101 hap\u016B nei, ki a \u014Ctaraua, ki a Manuk\u014Drihi, an\u014D hoki ki Te Iwi o Te Atiawa, oti noa, ki Te Kaunihera \u0101-Ro\u2019e o Ng\u0101motu, ki Te Kaunihera \u0101-Ro\u2019e o Taranaki an\u014D hoki. T\u0113nei ahau e tuku mihi atu ki a koutou m\u014D \u014D koutou ma\u2019i ka ma\u2019ia mai e koutou hei whakat\u016B i \u0113nei pire, i t\u0113nei w\u0101, n\u014D reira, e tika hoki kia tuku mi\u2019i atu ki a koe, Jonathan Young, te mema m\u014D Ng\u0101motu, t\u0113nei te mi\u2019i ake ki a koe, otir\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[And so thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, but at the same time it is apt that an acknowledgment is accorded to these subtribes, \u014Ctaraua and Manuk\u014Drihi, and to the tribe of Te Atiawa, and accordingly to the New Plymouth District Council and Taranaki Regional Council as well. I acknowledge you collectively for the work that you performed to set up these bills. Therefore, it is fitting also that I acknowledge you, Jonathan Young, the member for New Plymouth. I commend you, but at the same time all of us.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EFirst of all, I want to acknowledge Mr Jonathan Young for bringing this bill to the House. I want to offer my thanks that the House referred this bill to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee following its first reading. I think that that has had a huge impact on the progress of this bill. As I stated in the first reading, this is a bill about a number of stakeholders with competing interests. I asked all of the different interested parties, through my speech, that they bring their compelling arguments to the select committee so that they could be considered by the committee, so that we could try to make this bill work. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI have to acknowledge, first of all, the New Plymouth District Council for its willingness to take a new look at the provisions of the bill. I acknowledge that it has moved considerably from where the bill was. The bill originally, as the member for New Plymouth has pointed out\u2014the history of Waitara, and the Pekapeka Block in particular, but also the progress of this bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge that, first of all, these submissions that were heard by the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee moved the members of the committee to take another look at the bill itself and to ask the officials to go back to the stakeholders interested in this particular bill and ask that they relook at the conditions of the bill. To that extent, I join with Mr Young and acknowledge, in particular, Nashwa Boys for her work, which I would imagine would not have been an easy task. So I want to acknowledge her input into bringing this bill to where it is today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EThe district council has moved considerably, in that it has agreed to set up a hap\u016B land fund. I think that is a significant move, because it does a couple of things: first of all, it provides the opportunity for the two hap\u016B concerned\u2014Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua\u2014to be able to have what they have always wanted, except by different means. What they have always wanted is the return of their land.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EThis does not return all of the land; however, it does provide an opportunity. It provides an opportunity to acquire land, but it also provides the means by which that can happen. I think that ought to be recognised. I understand why the hap\u016B are wanting to take extra time in considering it. It needs to be acknowledged in the House that they are going through their own process to get to a point of whether they agree with this bill or not. But what they do agree with is the extended opportunity to discuss this bill further. They agree with this second reading in this House. So it is incumbent upon this House to take note of that and to progress this bill to the next stage. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI want to recognise the leaseholders as well. In fact, I want to acknowledge all of those who made submissions to the select committee. I want to acknowledge the thoughtful and respectful and sometimes passionate way in which those submissions were made. As I said previously, they gave the select committee the opportunity to relook at the bill and try to find a new way forward, which we did in that select committee. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EThe changes have already been outlined, but I do want to talk about some of those changes. When we look at the interest of the leaseholders, there have been changes to their interest, in that they now have a longer period of time\u2014that being extended from 12 months to 15 months in which to decide whether or not they want to take up the offer in the first instance. The great thing about that extension is that the price, or the valuation, of their particular property is fixed at the day of assent of this bill. I would think that is a good thing\u2014although they are not locked into that either. If, for some unforeseen reason, the value of their property decreases they can opt out of that again. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EIt also sets up a new entity for the two hap\u016B, so that they have the ability to purchase land. They also, within this arrangement, have a side agreement with the New Plymouth District Council that the district council will use the accumulated funds to purchase a 49 hectare block of land and\u2014[Interruption] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I am finding it very difficult to speak above everyone else who is speaking. I think this bill is a very important bill and I think it deserves to be heard. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022 data-id=\u002252008dd7d68240c099896f4fcccb61e7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002252008dd7d68240c099896f4fcccb61e7\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That is a reasonable point of order, but I am sorry to interrupt the member anyway, because by a determination of the Business Committee I now call on Jono Naylor to commence his valedictory statement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003EDebate interrupted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00229b6bedc30d8347049bed73fa167deee4\u0022\u003EValedictory Statements\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227967b02f2dd44560bdf8246c067ce7b9\u0022\u003EValedictory Statements\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022 data-id=\u0022ebd27739c15140cab714e0b6cbd5e739\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ebd27739c15140cab714e0b6cbd5e739\u0022\u003EJONO NAYLOR (National):\u003C/span\u003E E Te Mana Whakaw\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Tuatahi, he mihi ki Te Atua, n\u0101na nei ng\u0101 mea katoa! Ng\u0101 mihi ki a koutou e te wh\u0101nau, ng\u0101 mihi ki a koutou ki aku hoa o Te Whare P\u0101remata. He r\u0101 kia whai whakaaro ai ahau, he r\u0101 t\u0113nei m\u014D te whakahari, he r\u0101 an\u014D m\u014D te matap\u014Duri.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003E[An appreciation to God firstly, as all things are His indeed. Acknowledgments to you collectively, the family, and to you my colleagues of Parliament. It is a day for me to reflect on, and this is a day for me to make merry and also to be dejected.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EToday is a day for reflection and a day for celebration, and maybe even a touch of sorrow\u2014maybe not. Today I stand to make my 153rd, and last, speech in this debating chamber. While my 3 short years here is a mere blip compared with the other speakers whom you will hear from today, it also marks the end of 16 years as an elected member, which started when I was first elected to the Palmerston North City Council in 2001. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EI want to start by acknowledging and thanking a number of people. Firstly, my family, who have believed in me, stood by me, and supported me through all of this\u2014particularly Karen, Chloe, Luke, and George, and, more recently, Elisha and Ruamatah\u012Bapo. Thank you for sharing me with the public and for putting up with all that comes with public life. I have been privileged to do some pretty cool, significant things in my life, but there is nothing I have done, or will ever do, that is cooler or more significant than being your husband, your father, and your grandfather. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EI want to thank my friends, who have believed in me, stood by me, and simply accepted me for who I am and not defined me by the titles that I have had. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EThank you also to my financial supporters and volunteers who have helped me campaign over the years and who have put up signs and delivered thousands of flyers to letterboxes. Without your help I would never have had the privilege of doing what I have done. Particularly, I want to acknowledge Trevor Day and Wendy Schultze from the local National Party for your unwavering commitment and your willingness to go beyond the call of duty. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EI have also been fortunate to have had some awesome staff in my time in Parliament. Sheryll, Bernadette, Gareth, Katie, and Elliot, you have all gone the extra mile to ensure that our constituents are well cared for and to keep me on track. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EThank you also to the National Party for giving me this awesome opportunity to serve in the House of Representatives. To my caucus colleagues, it has been great to work with you and to be part of a great team that has been led by two incredible Prime Ministers in the Rt Hon Sir John Key and the Rt Hon Bill English. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EI also want to acknowledge the friends whom I have made amongst other parties across the House, particularly the members of the Justice and Electoral Committee and the Social Services Committee. We have spent a lot of time together over the past 3 years, and although we have had our challenges and the odd debate, we have also mostly kept good humour and civility, and I thank you for that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003ELastly, I want to thank those people who have made submissions to the committees that I have been on in the past 3 years. In our committees we have dealt with some pretty heavy issues, from how coronial services work, to child abuse and domestic violence, and more. Your willingness to make yourself vulnerable and tell your stories has enriched our decision making and has taken a great deal of courage. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EThe privilege of serving in this House has not been lost on me, and I do not believe it is ever something that we as politicians should ever take for granted. Every day I walk down these halls I marvel that a boy from Masterton who became a youth worker and did a whole bunch of other things somehow had the opportunity to be one of 120 New Zealanders who at any one time gets to hold this position. I am here not because I am anyone special, but because the people in New Zealand have seen fit to entrust their welfare and their future into our hands. We serve at their pleasure and with their best interests at heart. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EThe good news is that I am convinced that by far the majority of people who also serve here also hold this view. We may disagree on the finer points of what we are trying to achieve for New Zealand, but, by and large, we differ only on our methodology, rather than the outcomes we strive for. It is important that we do not lose sight of this in the heat of political debate. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EOver my time here I have developed a love-hate relationship with this room. The challenge of speaking for 10 minutes on a topic you know nothing about is both exhilarating and soul-destroying all at the same time. The pointlessness of some of what we say drives me nuts, but at the same time the to and fro of debate has its enjoyment also. I have done my best to keep what I say in here good-natured and in good spirit, but I acknowledge that at times I may or may not have crossed the line. So if I have caused anyone offence in what I have said in a speech or interjected across the floor, I sincerely apologise and ask that you would look at it as over-exuberance, rather than it having any malicious intent. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EI have certainly had some fun and interesting times during my brief stay in Parliament. Shortly after starting here, I was selected to represent the New Zealand Parliament at a United Nations human rights conference in the Philippines. I was not sure what to expect, to be fair, as my travelling companions, Marama Fox and Peeni Henare, were from other parties. It was all a bit of a new experience for all of us, having armed motorcyclists escorting our minivan from the airport to the hotel, but we soon got into the swing of it, and I am sure the Manila karaoke scene will never be the same again. It proved to be the beginning of an uncanny connection between the three of us, as somehow we ended up on a number of subsequent panels together over the past few years, leading to the fact that every time we turned up and the same people were there, we said we were getting the band back together. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EThere have also been some very odd moments, as a parliamentarian. One of the most interesting occurred during a protest at my office about the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement. The police were concerned about safety, and so as a good employer under the new health and safety Act, I sent my staff home, and the police provided me with my very own close protection squad member. He had a Taser, but no gun. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EShortly before the protest was due to begin, someone came and sort of knocked on the window of my Parliamentary Service - approved reception window. I greeted her as I normally would and asked her whether I could help. She said: \u201CIs this where the protest is?\u201D. Given that I was about to be inundated with sign-waving, loud hailer - bearing protesters, it was my decision not to necessarily be quite as helpful as I might otherwise have been. I replied \u201CWhat protest is that?\u201D, and\u2014I kid you not\u2014her response was this: \u201CI don\u2019t know. They just said there was a protest at Jono Naylor\u2019s office, so here I am.\u201D I then decided that it was OK to be polite again, and I said to her: \u201CLook, I\u2019m sure that if there is a protest of any kind, it is more likely to be occurring outside the office, rather than inside the office. So if you would like to go outside and wait and see if anybody else turns up, that\u2019ll be fine.\u201D While I am sure that some of the protesters there may have been a little bit more informed, it did make me wonder about the validity of their message. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EWhile I would like to say there has never been a dull moment in the past 3 years, that would not be completely honest. As crucial and as helpful as they are to the successful running of New Zealand, some pieces of legislation that I have helped progress through this House have not exactly been riveting. The Judicature Modernisation Bill, in its 1,200-page glory, and the Private International Law (Choice of Law in Torts) Bill are a couple that spring to mind. That said, if nothing else, both of those bills helped me extend my vocabulary. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EHowever there have also been legislative and policy changes that I have been very proud to be associated with. The increases to benefits for families with children in real terms for the first time in 43 years, the introduction of the social investment strategy to ensure that more early intervention is put in place for those who face the greatest risk of long-term poor outcomes for their lives, improving our laws to deliver better outcomes for victims of domestic and sexual violence, and, of course, the Oranga Tamariki legislation to ensure that the services for the protection of our most vulnerable children is delivering real improvements to their lives are only a few of them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EIt has been great to be part of a Government that has been prepared to tackle some of the difficult issues and take measures to improve people\u2019s lives. If anyone doubts the sincerity of this, they only need to witness, as I did, the Hon Steven Joyce getting a little bit choked up when talking about how he felt seeing people talk about what a difference the changes announced in the Family Incomes Package in this year\u2019s Budget would make to their lives. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EA definite high point for me, though, in the last 3 years was one of those impromptu moments. It was an off-the-cuff speech I made on Te Pire m\u014D Te Reo M\u0101ori / M\u0101ori Language Bill. I had not been intending to speak on that bill, but wandered into this House, as sometimes we are wont to do as politicians, looking for somebody, and I received a text from the other side of the House, from Peeni Henare, inciting me to inject myself into the debate. I could not resist the opportunity, and I proceeded to deliver a short, heartfelt speech on the importance I believe Te Reo M\u0101ori has to my family and to New Zealand. My executive assistant the next morning suggested I post this speech on Facebook, and I went \u201COh, OK then.\u201D, and then something very interesting happened. Up until that point the greatest reach that I had ever had on Facebook was 20,000 people, which I thought was pretty cool. That is just normal for some of you, I know. But within a week this speech had somehow reached over a million people. I was overwhelmed not just by the volume of people viewing this but by the comments they were making, the gist of which from M\u0101ori was: \u201CWe can\u2019t believe there\u2019s a middle-aged, middle-class white guy talking about the importance of Te Reo.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EI learnt a couple of lessons at that time. The first is you cannot control social media, as ultimately it has a life of its own. The second was a reminder of the importance of middle-class, middle-aged white guys talking about issues in which we personally have no self-interest. When P\u0101keh\u0101 talk about issues that are important to M\u0101ori, when men do not leave it up to women to talk about the issues that affect women, and when those who have never faced abuse talk about how to stop it from ever occurring, that is when we begin to see the shift in power to enable even more an equitable society. This Facebook experience reminded me of a famous quote that I had learnt during my social work degree days from a chap called Freire, who said: \u201CWashing one\u2019s hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.\u201D As leaders and those with a voice in our communities, we must not lose sight of our ability to speak up for those whose voice may not otherwise be heard. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EI want to conclude now with a couple of challenges. Firstly, to the media who cover Parliament, please do not lose sight of the fact that you are reporting on people who, just like you, have families and friends. Yes, we as politicians need to be accountable, and we put ourselves in the spotlight to be judged, but the crazed, salivating pack mentality that inevitably seems to come when a scandal is in the air is not particularly becoming. Please remember you are reporters here to inform the public, not New Zealand\u2019s version of the Hollywood paparazzi and gossip columnists. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003ETo my colleagues and friends of this House, I salute you. This is a tough gig. It takes amazing commitment, character, and resolve to do it well. Never lose sight of who you are, never lose sight of the importance of your family and friends, and never lose sight of the reason you came here. Kia kaha, kia m\u0101ia, kia manawanui\u2014be strong, be steadfast, be willing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EAnd with those final words, Mr Speaker, I bid you and this House farewell. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa, e noho r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003E[Applause]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225634618f-04f4-4f2c-a4bb-6ec0edeb2bf5\u0022\u003EWaiata\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022 data-id=\u002207eff7e3625549faa71782b87f0defef\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002207eff7e3625549faa71782b87f0defef\u0022\u003EHon CLAYTON COSGROVE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I have to say that I never thought, sitting in Mike Moore\u2019s home at the age of 14 signing up as a member of the Labour Party, that some 33 years later, at the age of 47, I would be standing in the House\u2014and, of course, sitting next to the Labour icon whom we call \u201CAraldite\u201D, the Hon Annette King, whom we honour tomorrow\u2014making this valedictory speech, having had the privilege of serving 18 years as a member of Parliament. I served 18 years, 9 years of which were with the privilege of being in Government, including 3 years as a Cabinet Minister, holding eight ministerial portfolios; I spent 9 years in Opposition, including 6 years as a front-bencher; and, especially, I had 12 years representing the wonderful people of the Waimakariri electorate. To quote an old mate, every day has been an honour and every hour has been a privilege in this place. There is no higher honour, I think, in a democracy than to be elected to by your people to serve your country, and I thank the people and the Labour Party for giving me that opportunity. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EMy political career has not been without the odd bit of controversy. Those who have been around will remember the stoush in 1993 between Mike Moore and Helen Clark for the leadership of my venerable party. Of course, I was, and I remain, in the Mike Moore camp, so it would be fair to say that when I was nominated for selection for the seat of Waimakariri in 1999, things got a tad interesting. The selection meeting lasted until about 1.30 in the morning\u2014which is pretty traditional for Labour Party selections\u2014but somehow I prevailed. The following Tuesday, the Labour caucus met, and the then party president, Bob Harvey, who had presided over the selection, was asked to make a report on it. According to my old mate, the former MP George Hawkins\u2014who could not be here today\u2014Bob\u2019s report was short but to the point: \u201CWell, I tried. I really did try. I gave it my best shot, but he ended up the democratically selected candidate for Waimakariri.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ESuffice it to say, all wounds have long since healed, and it was an honour to serve in Helen Clark\u2019s Government and to be appointed to work with her as a Minister. She is a true friend and a true stateswoman for New Zealand. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EThe people of the Waimakariri electorate are wonderful souls, and I relished representing them. I am indebted to them for their wisdom, their friendship, and their generosity. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EIn fact, on one occasion, I do recall vividly their generosity. As a newly minted candidate in 1999, I was doorknocking in a community called Pines Beach\u2014a fantastic little community. I knocked on a door, and this young bloke appeared in nothing at all but his underwear, looking a bit worse for wear too, I have got to say. I said \u201CLook, I\u2019m the Labour guy.\u201D, and he said: \u201COh yeah, I know who you are. You\u2019ve got my vote. Don\u2019t worry about it. Now, you fellows have to raise money, don\u2019t you?\u201D. I said \u201CYeah, we do.\u201D, and he said: \u201CHang on, I\u2019ve got a donation for you.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EHe disappeared into the house, came back, and when he arrived he had a packet of cigarette papers in one hand and a small bag of marijuana in the other. He then proceeded to advise me on how to get as many joints as possible out of a bag of marijuana so as to maximise the revenue for my campaign. Being prudent, I thanked him very much for his kind offer, thanked him for his vote, pointed him in the direction of his nearest polling place, and got the hell out of there as fast as I could. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI have to say that as a newly elected member of Parliament, and this will not surprise many, I did relish the debate, the hand-to-hand combat, and the humour\u2014I will miss it\u2014in this place. Just to reinforce that to the public mind, MPs young and old can be disrespectful and brash, I recall the day that my old sparring partner and fellow St Bede\u2019s College old boy, Gerry Brownlee\u2014who would be deeply offended if I did not mention him in my speech\u2014and I had exchanged some pleasantries in the Chamber. Gerry had made a point of making an admiring comment that I was follicly challenged. I think his words were: \u201CThat is the worst comb-over I have ever seen in my life.\u201D I then looked to return fire. At one point Gerry said to me: \u201CClayton, do you know that you are sitting in the same seat that I first sat in when I was elected?\u201D. I replied: \u201CYeah, I know.\u201D He looked a bit stunned, and he said: \u201CHow did you know that?\u201D. I said: \u201CWell, it\u2019s easy, mate. The springs have gone.\u201D Sadly, none of that humour made it into Hansard\u2014which we have corrected today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EBut I do want to recall, on a serious note\u2014because it is true that Gerry and I had our moments in this place and we disagreed, and at times we disagreed on policy issues intently. But I say this: I do admire the tenacity and commitment that he showed in his role as earthquake recovery Minister for the great province that we love and the people of Canterbury. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EIt was an honour to serve as a Cabinet Minister, not for the title and what comes with the office, but to have the power to make a positive change. I am proud of the reforms I have put in place in respect of real estate, property law, the licensing of builders and building practitioners to try to get the cowboys out of the construction sector, the provision of low-cost alternative dispute resolution mechanisms for those involved in leaky-home cases, the JP reforms, and the passage and reforms to the Immigration Act, and I am proud of having got the $190 million business case over the line for the Eden Park flagship venue for the Rugby World Cup. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EBut it is not only in Government that you can make a positive contribution. Sure, it is a fact that in Opposition you do not have any real power, but you have the power to cajole, you have the power to apply pressure, and, most importantly, you never give up. I am proud of the 2-year campaign I waged as State-owned enterprises spokesman, with the support of West Coast - Tasman MP and my good mate, Damien \u201CChainsaw\u201D O\u2019Connor, to expose the mismanagement and incompetence that led to the collapse of a once export award - winning company, Solid Energy. Sadly, the only people who paid the price for that fiasco and lost their livelihoods and jobs were the folks who literally worked at the coalface. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EThe Canterbury earthquakes, like they did for so many people, had a profound and lasting effect on me. I had never seen human tragedy on a scale such as this, and the layers of the suffering were deep and complex. The mental and emotional suffering went on and on for the weeks and months and years that followed, and for some in our community it continues today\u2014especially the kids. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI am proud of the work that we did, and I say \u201Cwe\u201D because I include all Canterbury colleagues and those from other regions, from all political parties. We saved lives, and I do not mean in the initial physical aftermath of the tragic quakes. The credit for that amazing work, of course, resides alone with those amazing emergency responders, who put their lives on the line for others. What I mean is that in the months and years after, we collectively dealt with thousands of folks whose lives were torn apart, who were emotionally and mentally on the brink, and who were staring into the abyss, and we helped them. We battled insurance companies, we pressured the bureaucracy, and, yes, at times, we utilised the media to make the public case. We, collectively\u2014all members of Parliament\u2014hauled those folks back from the brink and got them their lives back. They are now smiling. Their kids are smiling. They are in decent homes. They have got their lives back. I think that is at the very essence of the real work of members of Parliament, which is something the media and some commentators forget. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI am proud that throughout that period I was the Labour Opposition earthquake recovery spokesman. I did not exploit the situation by politicising it, despite the demands of some that I should, and the characterisation by others that vigorous public advocacy for earthquake victims via the media was in some way political. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI witnessed many things I will never forget\u2014some disturbing, but many inspiring\u2014from the spontaneous formation of the Rangiora Express, established by Jayne and Mike Rattray, who formed their own private air force and flew food by helicopter to isolated parts of Christchurch for weeks, to the incredible generosity of people like Dave Pilkington. Dave is a Belfast guy. Kaiapoi had established during the earthquakes an emergency food bank, and the call went out for food because stocks were low. Dave ran a pack-house for vegetables\u2014he owned his business\u2014and I rang him up and I said we needed help. In the typical fashion, the reply was \u201CTell me what you need.\u201D, and then a truck arrived full of fresh vegetables. What I did not know at the time was that Dave, of course, did not own the vegetables, but he had packed them for other businesses. But the truck came, none the less, and its contents had been paid for personally by Dave Pilkington. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI have always tried to be an advocate for business and industry because, at its core, it is the commercial sector that creates jobs and gives opportunities for people to better their lives. But to grow and develop, businesses require greater access to global markets. We need the world; it does not necessarily need us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EIt is no secret that I have always been, and remain, a strident supporter of free trade. It is a fact\u2014undisputed\u2014that in the last 50-plus years, thanks to open markets, more people have been lifted out of poverty than in any time in our history. It is a fact that as developing countries gain access to global markets, living standards, environmental standards, and labour standards are increased, and the institutions that encourage investment in those countries are built. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI remain a supporter of the Trans-Pacific Partnership. I note that the argument is made that in signing that agreement, New Zealand would give up part of its sovereignty. I respect that view. But the same is true when we sign any international agreement, whether it be the Paris climate change treaty, International Labour Organization agreements, or UN protocols. In each case, we as a nation agree that in giving up certain sovereign rights, we are attempting to make the world a better place through collective action. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EThis House has produced many a fantastic and incredible trade Minister, from Brian Talboys to Joe Walding, Mike Moore, Philip Burdon, Jim Sutton, and Phil Goff, to name but a few. Each has built on the work of the others to advance New Zealand\u2019s global interests in a bipartisan way. We must move back to a cross-party consensus on international trade. Stakeholders in our community must be engaged with. They must be brought into the discussion and not shut out, as they have been in the recent past, because fear is a creation of the unknown. Trade policy must last well beyond a 3-year electoral cycle, but, colleagues, to do that, it requires movement from both major political parties\u2014Labour and National. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI want to pay tribute and thank a number people who have been unwavering supporters of mine but who have also had a profound influence on my life. To the people of Waimakariri, thank you for allowing me to represent you for four terms. I loved every minute of it. Waimakariri is like a little slice of New Zealand. It is a strong and generous community that has been through so much in recent years, but it has bounced back. Its enthusiasm is infectious. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ETo my electorate team and to my committee members\u2014my members are so ably led by Sally Thompson, who is here today\u2014thank you. Sally may hold the record for being the longest-serving committee chair in Labour history. My team were loyal to a fault\u2014hardened campaign battlers who relished an election fight. They organised, raised money, and campaigned without fuss or glamour\u2014they just got stuck in. I thank them for their commitment, their support, and their friendship, which I will never forget. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ETo my local staff, both past and present, especially Emma, Linda, Juliet, Heather, and Nelly\u2014you are world-class. Our staff, after all, are at the front line when it comes to assisting local people. They are the unsung heroes every day, as they see the heartache and deal with the frustration of those who need help. It takes a dedicated kind of person to deal with casework, especially during the years of earthquake recovery. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ETo my current local staffer, Donna Dawber, I give a special note of thanks. You are not only a fantastic and highly respected staff member but you are a close mate. Only you and I know the sacrifices you made personally for the job and to support me, and I thank you so much. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ETo my then ministerial staff and the public servants I have had the privilege to work with, thanks for your professionalism, for your judgment, for your advice, and for always telling me the truth and challenging my thinking without fear or favour. You all worked unbelievably hard to support me and to implement the then Government\u2019s programme. But, let us be honest, you also played hard as well, and in some ways I still remember those very, very long parties. No Minister has had a better staff. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ETo my parliamentary staff past and present\u2014Willy, Tim, Lorraine, Ben, Steph, Maryanne, and Maylene\u2014I say thanks for the endless hours and for coping with the ever-changing schedule, and for the sheer hard grind that is Parliament. It does take a special set of skills to cover up for my mistakes. To my\u2014[Interruption] I knew that would get \u2019em. To my researchers, Richard and Corrine, and my media staff at the time, Miles and John, I say you are all exceptional political hunter-gatherers. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EA note to all the parliamentary staff, security, messengers, caterers, cleaners, travel folk, the library\u2014that wonderful institution we have\u2014and its researchers, the Office of the Clerk, and all staff. I thank you for the support you gave me. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ETo my mother and father, Barbara and Rex, thanks for all of your love and support. I would not be standing here today had it not been for the sacrifices you both made. It was the two of you who taught me the values that I have tried to live by\u2014thank you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EAlso, thanks to Jane\u2019s parents, Don and Barbara, who I think were not too sure about their daughter\u2019s judgment\u2014[Interruption]\u2014yeah, I knew that would get a laugh, too\u2014or taste in men when she first brought this MP home to meet them. Thanks for supporting me, and for being there for Jane on the many, many occasions when I could not be. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ETo Mike and Yvonne Moore, who are my other family and my closest friends\u2014Mike and Yvonne could not be here today, but I know that they are watching from home. I know\u2014and I can bet the house on this\u2014that I will get a call from Mike at the conclusion of this speech with a gentle critique and some ideas to convey. Too late\u2014I have gone. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EIt is no secret that Mike has had a profound impact and influence on my life as a mate and as a mentor. A journalist once wrote\u2014when I was first selected as a candidate\u2014that I even looked like Mike. I reminded that misguided soul that at that time, at least, I was thinner and had more hair. Some have even speculated that Mike wrote many of my speeches\u2014a notion that I suspect he would still argue was legally actionable, given some of the questionable and varying quality of my contributions over the years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EIt was an honour to work for him when he was a Minister, when he was a Prime Minister\u2014and I remember those glorious 8 weeks like they were yesterday; I could tell you a few things, Jacinda\u2014and when he was leader of the Labour Party. The 1993 campaign was incredible and is etched into my memory, as it is for the three fellow \u201CBeagle Boys\u201D, who sit in the gallery. They are Peter, Sue\u2014well Sue is an honorary one\u2014and Barry. It is worth noting that the 1993 election result was the biggest increase in seats in Labour history, apart from the 1935 landslide. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EIt was incredible to watch Mike\u2019s determination and sheer grit as he campaigned and prevailed to become Director-General of the World Trade Organization, the highest international office ever attained by a New Zealander. We all remain so proud of his work on behalf of New Zealand as Ambassador to the United States. He was, indeed, a worthy recipient of the Order of New Zealand. I want to place on record my thanks to former Prime Ministers Dame Jenny Shipley and Sir John Key, and the then foreign Minister Murray McCully for recognising and utilising Mike\u2019s energy and talents on behalf of our country. I lament the fact that my own political tribe never did the same when in Government. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EMike has always stood up for the Kiwi battlers. With his trademark enthusiasm, his relentless energy, and his fundamental belief in Labour values, he has always been, and will remain, an inspiration to me. An incredible legacy from a Kawakawa boy who left school at 15\u2014he was a Labour leader, a Labour hero, a true patriot, and the ultimate true believer. I owe him a debt I can never repay. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EMost importantly, my thanks go to Jane. My darling Jane\u2014the love of my life\u2014thank you for all your unwavering support, in good times and in bad. Thank you for your advice and your good humour. Thanks for your forgiveness for all those absences and all those jobs at home that never got done. Thank you for the unseen work you did in our community, and the sacrifices you made in support of my career. You are always a ray of sunshine, even in the darkest moments. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ETo the Labour Party\u2014the members, the supporters, and the colleagues\u2014thank you for giving me the opportunity to be part of an incredible movement. The Labour Party\u2019s greatest strength throughout its history is its ability to constantly evolve and recognise and address the changing needs and priorities of our community. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EMy late grandfather was Labour to his bones. He started life working at Millar\u2019s bakehouse in Invercargill. Some years later, he saved enough money to buy a barber shop. He became a business person. His mates thought that given he had changed jobs from being a worker to becoming a boss, that would mean he would be a Tory\u2014a National Party supporter. They thought he would change sides. Not so. Yes, he worried less about overtime and wage rates, and more about depreciation and tax and staff and making a business profitable. In essence, his priorities had changed, but his values had not. He stayed loyal to Labour because it was Labour that evolved with him, with new policy and new vision that recognised his needs. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EFrom time to time in its history, my beloved Labour Party has stopped evolving, and when that happens, people become disengaged and the party seems distant from them. This is something that we, as a movement, must guard constantly against. Jacinda, you have hit the restart button on the evolution of our party. You have turbo-boosted it, and long may that continue. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI will miss this place and, if I am honest, I will, as I have said, miss the day-to-day political combat. Politics is infectious. It gets in your blood. It is like cocaine, as it is addictive. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI am reminded of the words of the infamous Graham Richardson\u2014who, for those who do not know, was Bob Hawke\u2019s Minister for Social Security in the 1980s\u2014when he described the excitement of politics as being better than sex and almost as good as a big feed. I do not agree with Richardson\u2019s extreme notion\u2014although Trevor Mallard may; I am not sure\u2014nor will I comment on its component parts, but it does show that from time to time our Australian cousins can be slightly misguided. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI will treasure the friendships I have made across the House. Contrary to popular belief, we as MPs may argue with each other\u2014in fact, that is actually what we get paid to do; to tease out the good ideas and challenge the status quo for the good of our country\u2014but we do not hate each other. This Chamber is like a boxing ring. This is the \u201CCircus Maximus\u201D. You slug it out with your opponents, and then you have a beer with them afterwards\u2014this is a good thing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI know, like other former members, that once I leave this place I will suddenly, as if by some miracle, have all the answers to the great problems and issues that eluded me when I was here. And I know that my Labour colleagues, especially Kris Faafoi and Megan Woods, are looking forward to me inflicting those views on them, year after year after year. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000436\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ETo all colleagues on all sides, I wish you well. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000437\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003ETo Jacinda and Kelvin, you carry the hopes and dreams of so many with you, and that is a heavy challenge to bear. You have energised our party and this campaign. The people of New Zealand are sitting up and taking notice. No longer can we be called old and grey\u2014apart from me. Your enthusiasm has become infectious, and I would wager to say it is making some of our political opponents look like the last committee meeting at the Kremlin before the Berlin Wall came down. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000438\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI make a prediction here tonight. I am no soothsayer, but I reckon we are going to go up in the polls, and up in the polls substantially. Jacinda, I look forward to 24 September, when you will change our party\u2019s tagline from \u201CLet\u2019s do this\u201D to \u201CWe\u2019ve done it\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000439\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003EI wish you all the best. I am now out of here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000440\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f9c512a8-d532-4ef9-ad51-0fe8d752a893\u0022\u003E[Applause]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022 data-id=\u00220b357a6de1c14b54a273a97067a6ba96\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000441\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220b357a6de1c14b54a273a97067a6ba96\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY (National\u2014East Coast Bays):\u003C/span\u003E On the day that I stepped down as the Minister of Foreign Affairs, I received an email from a person who had been in my class at school, remarking that it was a wonderful thing that someone could come from Arapohue School and Dargaville High School and go on to serve in the New Zealand Parliament and as New Zealand\u2019s foreign Minister. In the small farming community in which I grew up, the notion of a university education for less than stellar students like myself was regarded as fanciful and any idea of being elected to the Parliament absurd. So as I come to the end of a 30-year term in this Parliament, including a lengthy period as a Minister of the Crown, it is very hard to convey how incredibly fortunate I feel to have had the opportunities that have come my way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EWe had lost the East Coast Bays seat for the previous three elections before I won it in 1987, with the princely majority of 311 votes. I leave Parliament having achieved a majority of 15,000. Today I want to record my enormous appreciation to the people of East Coast Bays for the confidence and support given to me over 10 elections and for the great honour and privilege of serving as the member for East Coast Bays for 30 years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000443\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EI give my sincere thanks to the hard-working East Coast Bays electorate team, who over the years made it possible for me to win and then consolidate a previously marginal seat. Many of them are here today. Many of them have worked for me throughout those 30 years, and I am truly grateful to them. I thank the many staff members and officials who have kept me in business and the close friends and family who have supported me.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000444\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EI want to extend my best wishes to Prime Minister Bill English and Deputy Prime Minister Paula Bennett and the about-to-be former colleagues of mine. New Zealand today is in better shape than virtually any country of our type in the world. Occasionally in the past this country has got some runs on the board but then lost its focus. You have a unique opportunity to build on a tremendous base, and you have my best wishes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000445\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EWhen Maurice Williamson and I were first elected to this Parliament it was a very different place, especially prior to the introduction of MMP in 1996. The combination of the need to be personally present to cast a vote in the interminable hours of urgency made this a much more intimate and sociable place. Cast-iron discipline was required from the whips, with any absence requiring a pair from the other side. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000446\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EBack in the late 1980s Maurice Williamson, Winston Peters, Ross Meurant, and I determined that it would be logistically possible to depart towards the end of question time, attend the North Harbour - Wellington rugby match at Athletic Park, and return before the end of the general debate, with no risk of a vote being called or our absence being noted. Whether it was a result of a leak or the obvious difficulty Mr Peters had with the notion of remaining inconspicuous, we returned to find a very angry chief whip, who instituted formal disciplinary proceedings and required us to sit through an hour of carefully choreographed speeches about loyalty, teamwork, and commitment at the following caucus.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000447\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EThe election of the Bolger Government in 1990, followed by the \u201Cmother of all Budgets\u201D, seared some harsh political messages into our hides. Having been elected with 48 percent of the vote in 1990, fewer than 12 months later some polls were placing us as low as 19 percent. It was in this grim climate in October 1991 that I received an early morning call from the Prime Minister\u2019s senior private secretary, who advised that the Prime Minister wanted to see me. Convinced that this was to be yet another of the disciplinary discussions that were then a regular feature of my parliamentary timetable, I not very politely declined. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000448\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EEventually the senior private secretary convinced me that it would be very much in my interests to get my useless carcass up to the Prime Minister\u2019s office right now. So Jim Bolger informed me bluntly that he was making me the Minister of Customs but that would not make me very busy, and that he had decided, despite our political predicament, that he was going to win the next election, that I was going to help him, and that we would discuss it on a later occasion. We never did discuss it later, but I did find myself fairly quickly immersed in the political management machinery of the place, a role I came to play for many years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000449\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EI acquired a great respect for Jim Bolger. I developed an excellent working relationship with him and gained valuable experience in dealing with the intractable political challenges at the business end of the Government. In both Government and Opposition, right through until 2008, I was involved in one way or another under five leaders in the deeply unglamorous, even more unpopular, and extraordinarily difficult area of political management.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EAt about this period of my career, in which I am told I acquired the nickname \u201Cthe Black Prince\u201D, a good number of very colourful, mostly unflattering things, had been written and said by political opponents and media commentators alike, for which I am sure they are now all deeply remorseful. I take this opportunity today of thanking them all for their vigorous efforts to enhance my notoriety. They had made me appear very much more effective than I really had been and certainly much more interesting. It was during this period that I ran a weekly blog, McCully.co, which was widely read for its intellectual rigour and dispassionate analysis of important political affairs\u2014an option for the future, perhaps, if nothing else works out.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EIn 2008 the decision was made by John Key, looking towards the election later that year, that I was to move seriously into the area of foreign policy. Members will recall that the right honourable, now knighted, former Prime Minister had a wonderful capacity for lofty Shakespearean prose. In early 2008, addressing me in such terms, he said: \u201CMy little friend, there is one portfolio where those guys can hand me my ass, and that\u2019s foreign policy. I want you to make sure they don\u2019t.\u201D Ha, ha! Never before or since has the office of the Minister of Foreign Affairs been so graciously bestowed. Ha, ha!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EI think most people who come into this place bring an ambition to at some stage play a serious role in a Government that they can be truly proud of. In that respect, I regard myself as among the truly fortunate. For 8 years I had the enormous privilege of serving as Minister of Foreign Affairs under New Zealand\u2019s greatest Prime Minister of modern times and of serving as a member of what he called his \u201CKitchen Cabinet\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EAs I have said on many occasions, in any Government the real foreign Minister is always the Prime Minister. Regardless of geographical location, time zone, or any other considerations, Prime Ministers and foreign Ministers must always be on the same page. To be otherwise is to confuse other Governments and international agencies and the vast bureaucracies they retain to analyse every word or nuance, not to mention to provide fodder for troublemaking political opponents and commentators. I am pleased to say that in 8 years there was not one occasion on which there was daylight between John Key and myself. But much more important was the fact that while former Prime Minister Key quickly demonstrated a complete mastery of international relations at the highest level, he also bestowed the huge level of trust and confidence in his foreign Minister that is critical to making that role effective in its own right.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EThese were an important 8 years for New Zealand\u2019s role in the world. We managed, after 30 long years, to bring about a normalisation of New Zealand\u2019s relationship with the United States while maintaining our nuclear-free legislation, and remaining outside of ANZUS. Our relationship with China was taken to a new level, with exports multiplying by 500 percent, requiring careful management of a dynamic and complex diplomatic relationship, as well as one or two private sector challenges along the way. We made major progress with other non-traditional relationships in ASEAN, Latin America, and the Gulf States. We managed to break through a longstanding blockage in the relationship with the European Union, and I am especially proud of the way in which we stepped up to deal with our role and responsibilities in the Pacific.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000455\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003ENew Zealand\u2019s campaign for election to the UN Security Council in 2014 was unlike any other diplomatic challenge. You see, foreign ministries from all nations have this wonderful capacity to record every meeting as a diplomatic success. But the problem with the UN Security Council election is that one day the numbers go up on a board in New York, and the numbers do not lie.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000456\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EThe fact that three quarters of the countries in the world voted for New Zealand on the first ballot, leaving heavyweights Spain and Turkey to fight out the subsequent ballots, says something that is both totally objective and massively positive about our standing in world affairs. I am extremely proud of the way that New Zealand conducted itself during our 2-year term on the Security Council. We were diligent, fair-minded, consistent, and prepared to call out poor conduct wherever we saw it, even from our friends. I take this opportunity to thank the many hard-working and talented foreign affairs staff who over 8\u00BD years supported and collaborated with me in places all around the globe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EI also served for many years as Minister for Sport and Recreation, and more briefly as Minister for the America\u2019s Cup in 1999 and Minister for the Rugby World Cup in 2011. The hosting of the America\u2019s Cup in 1999 involved close collaboration with Sir Peter Blake and his team. Sir Peter\u2019s habitual question \u201CWill it make the boat go faster?\u201D was the greatest possible lesson on focus and a question I was to ask myself many times subsequently, when trying to decide which fights were worth having.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EThe whingers and whiners were out in force before that event\u2014New Zealanders were not going to be interested in a rich man\u2019s sport, all the cafes and restaurants in the Viaduct Basin would go broke as soon as the event was over, and it was therefore a waste of public money, and so on. But, of course, New Zealanders embraced the event in droves. The hospitality sector in the Viaduct Basin seemed to be just keeping its head above water last time I checked, and, of course, the economic and profile benefits to New Zealand were huge. The same will be the case in 2021. It is my sincere hope that, rather than pandering to the whingers and whiners, both Auckland and central government authorities will recognise the huge opportunity that is coming our way and invest wisely and strategically in maximising the undoubted benefits.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EThe Rugby World Cup 2011 was as complex as it was huge. It was one of the great thrills of my time in politics to be given the opportunity to play a role in something so large that gave so much pleasure to so many New Zealanders and banked so much economic benefit along the way. It also gave me an opportunity to work alongside some highly talented and very committed New Zealanders, many of whom remain my close friends today. I hope those responsible are thinking carefully about our next bid to host this event, because surely we must.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EThere is one outstanding Rugby World Cup matter that I do want to touch on briefly. In the lead up to the event, I had occasion to host a dinner for all of the members of the International Rugby Board. Because they were official guests of the New Zealand Government, the Department of Internal Affairs was supposed to have arranged for payment of the account, but, for some reason best known to itself, had not. So to avoid any embarrassment at the end of the evening, the bill was quietly charged to my office credit card. Even though we were reimbursed the next day, the subsequent release of my credit card receipts containing five bottles of Ata Rangi pinot noir at $185 a bottle attracted an unhealthy and, it would be fair to say, universally negative interest from the nation\u2019s media. To make matters significantly worse, for weeks afterwards, every time I attended a public occasion addressed by the then Prime Minister, he would draw attention to my presence and to my expensive taste in pinot noir.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EIt is a sad comment on the state of investigative journalism in this country that not one media outlet asked such blindingly obvious questions as: does the Minister for the Rugby World Cup drink pinot noir? Did the Prime Minister attend this dinner? Does the Prime Minister drink pinot noir? Now, I can no longer recall the answers to any of these questions, but I do recall clearly that I lamented the very poor state of our investigative media at the time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000462\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EOf course, I was to enjoy my own career as an international athlete while in Parliament as a founder member, with Trevor Mallard and Damien O\u2019Connor of the Parliamentary Rugby Team.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000463\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f46637ab740a445aa93ea630b0b9e452\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Bill English.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000464\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002241de0a1cae754703aa1470ef1b8202f7\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY\u003C/span\u003E: And yes, the right honourable Prime Minister as well. Our first coach, John Hart, rode into his All Blacks coaching job on the strength of our success. His successor, Richie Guy, neatly summed up my prowess when planning one of our Parliamentary Rugby World Cup campaigns when he said: \u201CWe can win this competition if we use our speed and skill out in the backs. McCully, you are playing in the forwards.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000465\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EIn 2009 we started to put in place some changes to both the structure and funding of High Performance Sport with the goal of making New Zealand, on a per capita basis, one of the top sporting nations in the world. Too many New Zealanders fail to understand the huge benefits our top athletes bring to our brand and profile in a country that produces and exports food. And by using our word-class athletes as role models we have a much greater chance of motivating our young people to play sport and live healthier lives. The decision to give High Performance Sport its own identity recognised that being world class requires a level of focus and resourcing that is different. We decided to focus resources at that level in the sports where we had a competitive advantage, creating a hothouse environment for our top athletes, coaches, and staff.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EIn both the 2012 and 2016 Olympics our targets were exceeded, but the real test comes in 2020 when the true benefits of this programme will flow through. Provided we stay on track, we will be able to look back on this as a critical formative period in our evolution as one of the world\u2019s most successful Olympic nations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EWhen the Prime Minister farewelled me from Cabinet back in May with some uncharacteristically generous remarks, he said that, on his research, I had served for longer as a Minister in National Governments than anyone other than the late Sir Brian Talboys. I had never thought about that statistic, but I went away and checked, and I think the Prime Minister was probably correct.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000468\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EWith the indulgence of the House, I want to offer, therefore, one or two thoughts as I depart this institution.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000469\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227b4f8867f6014861bef0d5cecd05c265\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, this\u2019ll take a while.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000470\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022456f6dac42274946b2a447ef10b22708\u0022\u003EHon MURRAY McCULLY\u003C/span\u003E: Ha! First, some personal advice: always keep an open mind about people. When some financial whiz-kid who gets elected in your neighbouring electorate irritates the management and you are asked to take him out behind the woodshed for a chat, always leave room for the possibility he might end up being your boss for 8 years. Ha, ha! And when some overconfident young woman marches into your electorate office, interviews you, and then instructs you to hire her on the spot, before you tell her to get lost, always leave room for the possibility that she might end up being your Deputy Prime Minister. Ha, ha!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000471\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EWe hear a great deal about how technology is changing and will continue to change our lives, but we think too little about how New Zealand\u2019s international interests have changed and will continue to change, and about the need to configure our institutions and polices so that they reflect our future interests, rather than our past. I grew up in a New Zealand that saw itself as an offshore farm for Great Britain. When the UK joined Europe, we thought we were the unluckiest people in the world, and senior Ministers lobbied for years to maintain access to the European markets that took the bulk of our goods.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000472\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EToday we are one of the truly lucky countries, camped on the rim of the Asia-Pacific region that will be the powerhouse of world economic growth for as far ahead as we can see. Today our exports to China are roughly equal to our exports to Australia, which is traditionally our largest market. But in the next 5 or 6 years our trade with China will be 50 percent bigger than with any other country. And, like any sensible business that does not want to be too dependent upon one customer, we will be trying to balance that growth with new markets in Asia, the Gulf States, and Africa. We have been slow to adapt from a world where we can do business inside our comfort zone with people who speak the same language and have similar history, values, and systems of Government to one in which a substantial part of our business is with countries that do not. But the next decade or two will see an overwhelming proportion of our trade conducted with nations that are outside that traditional comfort zone. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000473\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EThe same is true in relation to our security and defence, where the simple alliance arrangements that defined our interests for most of the last century have given way to an independent foreign policy, a complex and evolving series of regional dialogues, and a backdrop of major shifts in international power structures. Yet statistics for the study of foreign languages in this country remain truly dismal, and even important foreign policy issues are denied media space by editors besotted with the eating habits of reality TV stars, their medical ailments, wardrobe malfunctions, and revolving love interests. Increasingly, the pursuit of this country\u2019s economic and security interests will take us outside the comfort zone that history has bequeathed us, requiring a much greater investment of our time, our interests, and our skills.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000474\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EThose who have worked with me will know that I am not a great fan of multilateral institutions, but we must persevere with bodies like the United Nations, not because they are good but because they will get a great deal worse if countries like New Zealand do not play their part. Good international rules and effective international institutions are important for countries like ours. The alternative is to live in a world where the big guys always win and the little guys always lose. But New Zealand needs to remain a forceful advocate for UN reform. Last year the international community spent US$16 billion on providing humanitarian support for victims of conflict and another US$9 billion on UN peacekeeping operations. The world\u2019s capacity to create human misery through conflict now greatly exceeds its capacity to prevent or resolve it or its willingness to meet the growing humanitarian cost. That simply has to change.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000475\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EI previously described our work in the Pacific, in my time as foreign Minister, as both the most challenging and satisfying part of the job. We are a small player in international affairs, but we are a large and important player in the Pacific, and we are making a difference. New Zealand leadership has been the key to bringing over $2 billion to projects that are shifting the region from its heavy dependence on fossil fuels for electricity to renewable energy, with huge environmental and economic benefits. Many islands that were 100 percent dependent on expensive diesel for electricity generation are now 100 percent powered by renewables.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000476\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EIn the fisheries sector we have made bold progress in helping the region move its largest economic asset, a $3 billion-a-year tuna fishery, towards sustainable management and towards achieving a significantly greater return for its owners. We are playing an important role in the growing success story that is the Pacific tourism industry, again creating sustainable economic benefits from the region\u2019s natural resources. I greatly value the many friendships I have been fortunate to make around the Pacific, and my retirement plans include a continuing involvement in the region.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000477\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003EThe great temptation in this institution is to simply go along for the ride, to spend 3 years getting elected for another 3 years. I came here 30 years ago to make a difference. This is a tough place, and I have spent the greater part of those 30 years at the tougher end of it. I have tried to get things done, and sometimes that has not made it easy for colleagues, friends, and family, but I could never really see the point in being here if I was not going to move the furniture around a bit. Thank you for putting up with me for so long. It has been a hell of a ride.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000478\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225192f6d3-dca6-43c8-a55e-381e1d7c1225\u0022\u003E[Applause]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022 data-id=\u00224ad23f2c2c12485985f90bad3282236d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000479\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224ad23f2c2c12485985f90bad3282236d\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON (National\u2014Pakuranga):\u003C/span\u003E This is the hardest speech that I am ever going to make in this place, because I have been given a very stern warning from foreign affairs that I am now a diplomat and that I have got to not do any of the things that can cause trouble. When I told that to Sir John Key a few hours ago, he said: \u201CWell, given you never listened to my advice like that for 10 years, why the bloody hell would you listen to them?\u201D. But I am going to try to be diplomatic. I am going to try to make sure that instead of calling somebody a wanker, I will call them an owner-operator, because that is the diplomatic way to go these days. I do know that what I am about to say is irrelevant to most of you, because I was told by my dad once that no matter how great your greatest high or how deep your deepest low, there are over 1.6 billion Chinese people who could not give a toss. I think that puts everything into a true prospective.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000480\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EIn the next 20 minutes or so, I am going to wax lyrical about my 30 years in this place and how things have changed so dramatically, cover a few achievements\u2014but not too many to bore you\u2014canvass a couple of the highs, and sort of steer clear of a couple of the really deep lows that got really quite bad, make an apology or two, and, finally, pose that real question that I think we should all pose: did I make a difference?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000481\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003ESo, first of all, a few tributes\u2014and these are really important. I want to pay a tribute to my mum, Noreen, who is 95 years old, lives in her own house in Matamata, and will be watching this. She is a lady who just goes about her daily life, will not go into an institution, and is as sharp as a brain, and she calls me up and tells me that I am a completely useless sod when I do not agree with things she said. Mum, you have been amazing. I will be very careful to not to use something that my nephew used at his mother\u2019s funeral\u2014my sister\u2019s funeral. He said: \u201CMum, you\u2019re the greatest mum I\u2019ve ever had.\u201D I think I have got to be very, very careful not to fall into that trap.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000482\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EMy late father, Rex, served in the Battle of the River Plate, which is mentioned up on the wall over there, on the Achilles along with his brother. We grew up in Matamata on a farm, and they were great parents, and instilled they what I still think are completely, really top-notch values. That is all you can expect as to where you go from there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000483\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003ETo my wife, Raewyn\u2014Raewyn up the back there\u2014of 41 long-suffering years: I think the reason we have lasted 41 years is that I leave for Wellington every Tuesday and come back every Friday. She is really pleased to see me when I come home on Friday, and she is even more pleased to see me leaving on the Tuesday. So I think that is what has worked.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000484\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI have got three kids. They are all adopted, so they are lucky not to get the genes. They are really going to have a chance in life of being somebody. My son, Simon, right up in the front there, is an amazing guy. He is a wordsmith\u2014I think he came second in the world in the Cambridge English exams\u2014and he is absolutely worthwhile employing if you are looking for someone to be a wordsmith. He actually knows where a few dead bodies are buried as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000485\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003ENow, there are a couple of family members who are not here, so I am going to try to do something. You will know that I have always been famous for doing PowerPoints. They tell me that the parliamentary cameras can do this\u2014the twins. I have twins, a boy and a girl. This picture is of Connor, my twin son. He is currently on a tennis scholarship to the University of South Carolina. He is simply, as you will hopefully see by this one, if we can flick it in, just an amazing tennis player. So, Connor, I am really proud of you as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000486\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EMy daughter Brittany is a make-up artist and thinks she is pretty cool, and she is\u2014just amazing. There is one more photo clip, and then I will do my dogs. If I thought my kids were fantastic, have a look at these two dogs. They are Waffles and Pebbles. If I am ever grumpy or hungover in the morning when I wake up, that is what I wake up to look at.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000487\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EOK, a couple of secretaries\u2014I have been here for 30 years and I think I have got the record for this. I have had the same electorate secretary for the entire 30 years, Carla. Carla is up the back of the gallery\u2014Carla Mikkelson; just amazing. I tell you what\u201430 years. I mean, you get less for murder, Carla. There have been times when I have arrived at the office and she has just stared at me and gone: \u201COh my God! What have you done now?\u201D. Another amazing secretary here in Parliament is Bridie Cooper, up there in the gallery. She was Bridie Wilkinson for most of her life, and got married a couple of years ago. Bridie has just been the\u2014I have worked for her for 30 years. To have one secretary in Wellington and one secretary in Auckland for 30 years means I cannot be as big a bastard as I have been accused of being in the media from time to time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000488\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EThere are a couple of friends here whom I want to pay tribute to. John Slater\u2014where are you hiding? I saw you over there\u2014no, John Slater is up in the gallery. John Slater is the past-president of the National Party. We used to go out canvassing together many, many years ago. One day we decided: \u201CLet\u2019s have a crack at taking over this party.\u201D He got to be the president of the party and I got to be a front-bench Minister, so that was not too bad. Peter Martin, just up there behind the pole, is the electorate chairman in Pakuranga, and what an absolute stalwart he has been in the electorate for very many, many years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000489\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI am reminded of how important it is to get name recognition in the electorate. Before I got elected the first time, I was working hard, because Labour was hellishly popular in 1987 and I was not sure I could win the seat. I did everything I could. A guy came to see me and said: \u201CI need your help.\u201D I put hours and hours of work into it, and I thought \u201CI\u2019ve got him. He\u2019s going to be a voter for me.\u201D And then he dropped a big envelope around at my house that night, and it was addressed to Mr William Morrison. If you know, Morrison was the actual member of Parliament at the time, and William Morrison was not going to cut it when he went to vote. To a couple of other close friends from Air New Zealand days\u2014Ian Hambly, Alan Gaskin: you guys, we have had an amazing ride through life, and it has been fun. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000490\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EThere is a couple up here I want to point out\u2014Ron and Jane Woodrow. These people are Wellingtonians who have provided a refuge that I could run to and hide when anything went wrong, and I think that was just about every week at one point. Jane would always cook the most amazing meals and Ron would always have the ideas about how to solve the world. Ron shares with me this amazing love of technology. When I used to come back from the States and tell Bill Birch about Bluetooth and Java and so on, I could just see it in his face: \u201CI haven\u2019t got a bloody clue what you\u2019re talking about, and so what.\u201D I was an advocate of the internet long before it even came here. I argued about how it would change our lives. We would live on it. We would shop on it. We would transact. And I am quite pleased about it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000491\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EWe had Bill Gates out here and I did a few presentations while he was here. He was good enough to give me a copy of his book at the end, and written in the front of it he has got \u201CTo Maurice. You are my favourite power user. I hope the whole world learns from what you have done in New Zealand.\u201D\u2014signed \u201CBill.\u201D So that is not too bad\u2014to have Bill Gates\u2019 signature on a book.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000492\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI had the first iPhone ever in New Zealand and I had the first iPad. I remember bringing it into the House one day, and I think Tariana Turia was more excited about it than anybody else. Others just dismissed it as another one of Williamson\u2019s little fads. Well, you are all going to live on them now, and I tell you what\u2014with 3-D printing and driverless cars and so on, you have no idea how your world is going to change.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000493\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EWhat a difference that was from when we came. There was no internet. There were no computers. I went to Hong Kong and bought myself a PC. I brought it down, set it up in my office up on the 3rd floor, and Sir Robert Muldoon walked past my office, stopped, backed back, and looked in at me working. All I was doing was word processing, writing a letter. He goes: \u201CAh, how\u2019s the mad scientist tonight then, eh? Ah, ha, ha!\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000494\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003ENow I will say a few things about achievements because I think you should say them. I do not want to go on too much because\u2014this is boring. Who cares? I was the longest-serving Minister for a whole range of portfolios. I think 15 years for the statistics portfolio, longest-serving communications Minister, certainly the longest-serving building and construction Minister, and a number of others. But that really does not matter if you did not do anything.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000495\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EWell, right from the moment I got here I put a member\u2019s bill in, and drove it hard, about increasing the penalties for cruelty to animals. I have always believed in what Mahatma Gandhi said, that the degree to which a nation can be judged as having developed is the way it treats its animals. I think anybody, anyone, who can be cruel to animals really has something seriously, seriously wrong with them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000496\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EAfter that I did a few things. I became a Minister, and I have got some things that I am pretty proud of. I set up Pharmac in 1993, trying to implement a really good way of buying drugs without the drug companies being able to game us. I think Pharmac is one of our greatest inventions. I hope it never ever gets taken away. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000497\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EBut I had a couple of failures along the way. We tried\u2014really. Simon Upton\u2019s view, and I went with it, was that we could charge people for the hotel part of their hospital stay. When they go to hospital they are not at home, so they are not eating meals and they are not in their bed and they are not using electricity. So we could at least bill them for that bit of it. I tell you, that was about as successful as Lord Mountbatten\u2019s Irish holiday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000498\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EOK\u2014moving right along. One of the things I am really proud of is I set up the M\u0101ori broadcasting funding agency. You will know it as Te M\u0101ngai P\u0101ho, but I called it Te Reo Whakapuaki Irirangi. OK; cool. We set up 23 M\u0101ori radio stations. This is something no one knows, and my colleagues are going to hate me when I tell you this. I actually put on the board of that two people: I am going to tell you. One was Hone Harawira, because at that time he was a radio broadcaster and I thought he brought some value to it. The other was somebody for whom you will not forgive me, and that was Annette Sykes. I had to take her off the board only a couple of years later when she advocated blowing up dams and burning down forests. But that is just a little bit along the way. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000499\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI did things like deregulating the postal service and stopped New Zealand Post having a monopoly on carrying bloody letters. How stupid was that! But there are a few things I am really proud of. In this House in 1999 I got up and I actually tabled the Mahon report about the Erebus crash. I was at Air New Zealand. I was deeply involved in what went on. Justice Mahon got it right. It was so wrong to blame just the pilot. All of the systems failed that pilot, and to blame him alone was wrong. I was so proud to table that report, because it had never been tabled. Sir Robert had refused to have it tabled. It was tabled in this House and it is a formal view of what happened at Erebus. It was a systemic failure, not one error. And to go to lunch with Marguerite Mahon, the wife of Justice Mahon, and with Maria Collins, and to get photos out the front\u2014just the most moving, stunning time of my life and I will never forget it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000500\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI have had to make some pretty tough decisions. You know, I got attacked over the Crafar farms sale to Shanghai Pengxin. But the law was quite clear that if they met the criteria, they met the criteria. Prime Minister John Key came to me one day and said: \u201CWe\u2019ve got to do something about fixing the weathertight homes.\u201D I said: \u201CWell, it\u2019s not our problem.\u201D He said: \u201CI know.\u201D I said: \u201CIf I go and see Bill English he will say there\u2019s no money.\u201D He said: \u201CI know, but we\u2019ve got to do it.\u201D And we did, and we put a package together, and thousands of people have been able to get their house fixed, from that package.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000501\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EThen there was SmartGate and Customs. I know there are some Customs people\u2014the previous comptroller, the current comptroller, and others\u2014in the audience today. Martyn Dunne was a stunning Comptroller of Customs and Carolyn Tremain as his replacement is also. You are not allowed to have favourites, but Customs was by far my favourite. We have implemented technology, which means we process people in about 18 seconds flat, through the border, and it was what I think was really worthwhile.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000502\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI will talk now about the Maritime Transport Bill. Trevor Mallard would probably be one of the few\u2014no, sorry, Ruth will remember it. We went night after night, for week after week, under urgency, until 3 in the morning, voting on Plimsoll lines, on toy ships, and so on. But it was such a touchstone bill. Helen Clark said it was the most pernicious, evil, disgraceful legislation this House had ever seen, and if Labour ever got elected, it would be the first to go. I am proud to say that after 9 years, not one clause of that bill got changed\u2014not one clause of it. It allowed our ships to ply the coast and do well. I remember bringing things like geospatial into the whole Public Service, to make sure the Public Service did not think that data should just be in tabular form any more, and that actually having maps of where this occurred and how it occurred was better.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EProbably my greatest success, I think, in getting something done\u2014but it was hated beyond your wildest belief\u2014was bringing in the photo driver\u2019s licence. I thank very much Harry Duynhoven, who I think was here earlier\u2014he might have gone off for drinks now. He and about eight other Labour members crossed the floor to give me the numbers on it, because we had some of ours who were not prepared to vote.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI tell you, Leighton Smith waged war against me daily\u2014this was evil, this was Big Brother, this was the start of the identity card. My wife, Raewyn, used to say to me: \u201CWhy don\u2019t you just give it up? I can\u2019t get in the car without hearing them tearing you to shreds.\u201D Well, we did it. It had the biggest drop in our road toll ever and I have never heard it raised again. That is what you have to do around this place. If it is right, you do it, you stand your ground, and, at the end of it, if it was right it will be proved to be right, and I am really pleased.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000505\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EFinally, just quickly, one thing that I did not expect to be of any great moment was the gay marriage speech. It went to 59 countries, was translated into 19 languages\u2014and a quick update; I got the Parliamentary Library to tell me. Since it was passed we have had 1,500 same-sex couple marriages out of 100,000 marriages during that time\u2014so about 1.5 percent. So the world has not come to an end, and we have not had the gay onslaught wipe the rest of us heterosexuals out as was claimed. To those people who sent me some of the nasty\u2014some of the emails were great: \u201CI hope you die of AIDS, you bastard.\u201D That was one of the nicer ones. Well, I have had a check-up before I head to the States and there is still no sign of HIV/AIDS at this point, so I am all right. I also checked my birth certificate and my parents were actually married on the day I was born\u2014so not so much of a bastard.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000506\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EOK, a few regrets\u2014yes, there are a few regrets, and I am going to do only one, or two, or five, or whatever. The one I think is the biggest regret ever is I never, ever was able to persuade my ministerial colleagues that we really should get rid of commercial television. I seriously, seriously do not know why the Government owns a commercial television station. Oh, I know\u2014it is so it can promote New Zealand culture and identity. So I had a look at the programme schedule: Masterchef Australia followed by Mrs Brown\u2019s Boys, Emmerdale this afternoon, Coronation Street tonight, Instant Gardener, which I do not know, but it is a British programme of some sort, followed by Four in a Bed\u2014you will be able to tell me more about that, Murray. You can tell me about it later. And there is The Chase and Tipping Point\u2014both British. How the hell is that promoting New Zealand culture, for goodness\u2019 sake! And its value when I tried\u2014I pleaded with Jim Bolger about it. Its value back then was about four times what it is now and it is now four times what it will be, because nobody, nobody, is going to watch free-to-air ordinary TV in the future. They are going to watch it via what I think is my greatest little backroom success\u2014and I am pleased that Sir John Key is here. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000507\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI went to John Key in 2006 after having worked very, very closely with Ron Woodrow. I mentioned Ron before\u2014he was a bastion; I could go and hide\u2014but the guy was so forward-thinking in technology. He rolled out CityLink, which was the big fibre-optic loop in the CBD here in Wellington. He did it himself with his own money and then sold it. He was always on about how fibre was the future. I remember talking to John and he said: \u201COh, you know, the budgets are tight and I don\u2019t think you\u2019d get it through.\u201D So I went to some of the policy meetings and I do not think Bill was pretty keen on it either. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000508\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EEvery time I went it was just struggle, struggle, trying to take fibre to the premises. It was unheard of; even the Australians were only going to go for fibre to the Cabinet. It was just the old Russian water drip\u2014Chinese torture. I tried to get some people from the private sector involved. One who I thought would be involved just said it was a nonsense, that it would not happen, and \u201CYou\u2019re dreaming.\u201D\u2014and now he actually is a board member of Crown Fibre Holdings, so that is quite interesting. But in the end I think John Key\u2014and I think he might admit it\u2014and Bill English finally just gave in to get me to shut up. We finally put together the ultra-fast broadband package to roll out fibre, and I think it is the greatest enabler, the greatest economic enabler, that this country will have. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000509\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EOn to elements of pride\u2014there was one thing I was really proud of; I thought this was amazing. When Helen Clark was inducted into the Order of New Zealand, I was the Minister she requested attend in Auckland, and I did\u2014at Government House\u2014and I was really proud to be there. But I had to sort of offer up an apology at the time, and I will make sure I get it on record now, because we had sparred a lot before. Once in the House many years ago when I was transport Minister we were proposing building State Highway 20\u2014not a tunnel, but State Highway 20; a road\u2014through Waterview. Helen got up in the House and said that that would happen over her dead body and my retort was \u201CThat would be a small price to pay for a good road.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000510\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI also tried to get some really smart-alec little cuts against the other side, and Trevor Mallard, I am sure, will remember this day. Labour was really polling very poorly\u2014I think it was about mid-1994, 1993. I think the poll came up with Labour on 16 percent. We sat at our, what used to be, procedures and thought \u201CHow do we get a question to a Minister to actually get that 16?\u201D, because, as Mr Peters will know, you cannot ask questions unless they are actually of a ministerial responsibility. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000511\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002257c0a411dfe84b12a9d043e812ef63e2\u0022\u003EHon Members\u003C/span\u003E: Ha, ha!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000512\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002231221ed0248e42389c7b170156919da5\u0022\u003EHon MAURICE WILLIAMSON\u003C/span\u003E: I know he does, but you cannot. OK, I thought: \u201CI know what to do.\u201D So I said it to the team and we put it up to procedures. So the question was to me as Minister of Broadcasting: \u201CHas he had any complaints recently about the screening on Television One last week of The Sound of Music?\u201D. I could see that Labour and the Opposition were going: \u201CWhat the hell is this one?\u201D as they worked through the question. \u201CWhat are they getting at here?\u201D, and they were stumped, absolutely stumped. So when we got to the House\u2014I have got it all on video if you want to see it; it is cool. So I got the question: \u201CHas he had any complaints about it?\u201D and I said: \u201CMr Speaker, I actually have. I had a phone call from an irate Labour Party supporter who complained about the movie The Sound of Music, in particular the song \u2018I am Sixteen Going On Seventeen\u2019 \u201D. The supplementary was even better: \u201CDid the irate phone caller have any other songs they were upset about?\u201D. I said: \u201CIndeed, Mr Speaker, there were two more songs: \u2018High on the Hill I\u2019m a Lonely Goatherd\u2019 and \u2018Farewell, Adieu to You and You and You\u2019 \u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000513\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003ESo I just want to finish up by saying it is time to move. In fact, I should have gone a while ago; I can see that. I am a dinosaur and I accept it. In fact there was a really good little story Bridie sent to me out of the funny file. She said I attended a primary school in my electorate many years ago and the kids all wrote a lovely letter, as they do\u2014you know: \u201CIt was great for you to come and I really enjoyed your speech.\u201D One of the boys wrote\u2014a little kid, only 5 or 6: \u201CYou reminded me of my favourite subject, dinosaurs.\u201D I thought \u201CWow!\u201D. Why I think I am now a dinosaur is I am completely out of tune with where I think modern thinking is\u2014on both sides, on all sides; I am out of it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000514\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI grew up in a farmhouse in Matamata that had scrim that moved on the walls and a potbelly stove and in winter it was bloody freezing. I am not trying to make out we were poorly off; everyone whom I lived around had it\u2014that was what we lived in. Yet I hear today: \u201CIt is my right to a warm, dry, insulated home.\u201D No, it is not. Actually, every right you have you have got to earn, and this idea that \u201CI should have it, no matter what.\u201D in my view, is wrong. We did not even have single glazing. Some of the windows did not close properly, so we just had nice draughts of air coming through.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000515\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003ESimilarly with regards to\u2014and I know this will get Sue Moroney really upset, but it is the same thing to do with family and child support stuff for the babies when they are being born. Raewyn and I spent quite some time working out, before we started a family, how we would financially do it before she gave up working at Air New Zealand. The idea that someone would ever pay for us to do that just does not swing for me. I am not trying to upset you; because it is upsetting them as well. It is just that\u2014I am from the past, I should be back in the primeval swamp, and that is where I am going.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000516\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI do really lament\u2014and I was so hoping I would have at least one target but they are not there, the journalist fraternity. When I came here journalists were on about substance, they were on about why the Government had done something, they would hold you to account for spending, etc. Now it is just unbelievable. Twenty-one years ago, almost to the day, in this House, David Lange gave a great speech, as he was leaving\u2014his valedictory. He said: \u201CI can\u2019t stand it anymore. I\u2019m getting out before where the journalist fraternity is going in this world gets to me.\u201D He said this: \u201CI picked up a magazine at Auckland Airport yesterday and it said \u2018Candidate fights life-threatening addiction\u2019.\u201D You can check this in Hansard if you do not believe it. \u201C \u2018Candidate fights life-threatening addiction\u2019 \u201D said David. He said: \u201CI was very intrigued with that, and when I opened it up it said that Pam Corkery was quitting smoking.\u201D I will try to do the voice: \u201CGood heavens!\u201D said David. \u201CWhat next? Next week we\u2019ll be seeing \u2018How I licked athlete\u2019s foot\u2019 by Pam Corkery\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000517\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EI simply agree with him. When TV3 drops Campbell Live but brings on some Scout programme about Rachel Glucina and the gossip columnist, I feel I lost the plot here. Something has gone wrong. Vaughan Jones, the top New Zealand mathematician, who has got a Fields Medal, gets no mention even though he is the top man in the world, but we now know about Kim Kardashian almost nightly and her $50 million arse\u2014I think his name is Kanye.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000518\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003ESo the test I have always applied is: \u201CWill New Zealanders be better off?\u201D. I will not go through a couple of the little stories here, but I have to say some of them were amazing. I had a guy in St Heliers who had an alien spaceship crash through his roof. He wanted me to come and help but he had donned a helmet and had slippers on. He had put a trampoline over the house so that the neighbours would not know it, and the alien was locked in the bathroom but was eating the cellulose from the wallpaper\u2014\u201CPlease help if you can, Mr Williamson.\u201D and, as you will be aware, I probably did not do much about that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000519\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003ESo that is it for me. I want to finish with a lovely quote from Edmund Burke, the British politician who said: \u201CYour representative owes you not his industry only but his judgment and he betrays you instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.\u201D So I have always held a North Star. I have always held the North Star, which is something to guide you by\u2014for navigation: what is right, what is wrong, what matters, what does not, and putting that test on things. For me, it is about freedom of the individual, it is about rewarding individual effort, it is about that libertarian view: \u201CAs long as you are at the age of consent and you are not causing damage to any other person, then I believe you\u2019ve got a right to do it.\u201D So I voted on the liberal side of everything. God knows, back in the 1980s, the attacks we came under for allowing the shops to open on a weekend. Jim Knox said: \u201CIt\u2019s the most evil thing and it\u2019ll be the end of families, and if you open the shops on a Saturday, you know it won\u2019t be long before they\u2019re open on a Sunday as well.\u201D And he was dead right. He was a visionary, that Jim Knox.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000520\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EBut I am very strongly free market, I am a very strongly right-wing, and when it comes to the welfare State, I am a fan of it being a hand up but not a handout. I am a fan of it being a safety net and not a trampoline. So my North Star is probably the exact 180-degree reverse of what Metiria Turei believes in terms of what is right and wrong with the welfare State. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000521\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003EBut it is time to go. I am off to sunny California. I have got songs in my head; I have got the chord patterning to the Eagles\u2019 \u201CHotel California\u201D: \u201CYou can check out any time you like, but you can never leave\u201D. Well, I am leaving. I tell you, I am leaving and I am looking so forward to it. It has been a great ride, there have been a lot of ups and downs, we have had a wonderful time, and I have had some wonderful people to share the journey. Thank you so much.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000522\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003E[Applause]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000523\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224a11ce4e-9fb3-4738-b0be-5a9f81d975da\u0022\u003ESitting suspended from 6.02 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000524\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b3919ff1fd1140f7b1967b3c5a2d0a44\u0022\u003ENew Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000525\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022822ebf691ccc4bae8379a60d602599f6\u0022\u003ESecond Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000526\u0022\u003EDebate resumed.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022eb89a62c56d34871b89fe5dd1a6688cb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000527\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022eb89a62c56d34871b89fe5dd1a6688cb\u0022\u003EADRIAN RURAWHE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Hau\u0101uru):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Deputy Speaker. I just want to recap on the basics of this bill. I want to, again, acknowledge all of those interested parties that have acted with dignity and also with a lot of passion as well. I want to say to the House tonight that this is not a Treaty bill, but it is related to the Te Atiawa Treaty settlement and would not have come about except for a heads of agreement between the New Plymouth District Council and Te Kotahitanga o Te Atiawa Trust. Through that, it has created a process to address the long and outstanding issue of the Waitara lands\u2014of course, the Pekapeka Block, which was the very first piece of land to be confiscated in the New Zealand Wars. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000528\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EIt is great that we have the opportunity to see this bill have its second reading, but, as I said in my previous contribution, the two hap\u016B Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua have still to give final sign-off on this bill, but they have agreed that it would have its second reading. As I understand it, they are very close to making a decision, after proper consultation with their people. So I wish them all the best in that endeavour. It is not exactly what they asked for\u2014what some of the members of those hap\u016B asked for at the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee\u2014but, as I have stated previously, the changes are of a magnitude that not only provide them the opportunity to purchase and receive further lands within the Pekapeka Block, but also provide the means by which they can do that. That is a critically important part of what we have in front of us today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000529\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EThis is a vastly different bill to the one that was first brought to the House. It is a much better bill. I, once again, recognise the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee for his leadership in this process and Jonathan Young, as the sponsor of the bill. N\u014D reira e Te Whare, ko te t\u016Bmanako kia tae pai ai ki te mutunga o t\u0113nei \u0101huatanga, n\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000530\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[Therefore, the hope is that the conclusion to this situation is arrived at. So acknowledgments to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022 data-id=\u002220f502570f0a45bab569e2cd680d46b7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000531\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002220f502570f0a45bab569e2cd680d46b7\u0022\u003ENUK KORAKO (National):\u003C/span\u003E \u0100, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101, e huri noa i Te Whare nei, e mihi atu ki a koutou katoa. T\u0113nei te mihi ki te iwi o Te Atiawa me \u014D hap\u016B a \u014Ctaraua, a Manuk\u014Drihi, a Taranaki Mauka, a Tokomaru waka, n\u014D reira, e mihi atu ana ki a koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000532\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E[And so thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, and salutations to you all throughout this House. I acknowledge you, the tribe of Te Atiawa, your hap\u016B \u014Ctaraua and Manuk\u014Drihi, Mount Taranaki, Tokomaru waka, therefore greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000533\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EAs the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, I have to say that this has been one of the more difficult pieces of legislation we have considered, and one of the most contentious as well. The New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill, now at this second reading, has had a lot of considerable work done over these past months. That is not surprising in some ways, because here we are dealing with a 150-year-old issue that arises from the very regrettable history of Waitara, which goes back to colonisation and the New Zealand Land Wars caused by the Crown\u2019s confiscation of Te Atiawa land, and specifically that of Manuk\u014Drihi hap\u016B and \u014Ctaraua hap\u016B. What became very clear to us during the submission process was that there was considerable disquiet from multiple stakeholder groups about the content of this bill, as it came to us from the New Plymouth District Council. The issues raised were significant, and it was clear to us that there would need to be a very considered and substantial response to them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000534\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the immense privilege it has been to work with the hap\u016B of Waitara and the New Plymouth District Council. I offer my appreciation also to the Taranaki Regional Council, although I do believe that an earlier engagement with the hap\u016B of Waitara could have seen a more inclusive process\u2014I truly believe that. However, what we have is the result of a lot of hard work by the committee and our officials, particularly under the leadership of Nashwa Boys, who was very, very largely responsible for bringing together the Waitara hap\u016B, Te Atiawa, and the two councils. What we have out of this is an example of the innovative solutions that can be found if we really try. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000535\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI do not need to recite the history of Waitara; Mr Young has already done that. But what I will say is that I have witnessed at first hand the effects of the Land Wars and Crown confiscations. I had the privilege to attend the Parihaka reconciliation ceremony in June, and what a day that was\u2014what a day. What an incredible wairua was present there. It was a joy to see the real power of kotahitaka\u2014of everyone coming together to forge a new pathway for the people of today and also their future generations. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000536\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EIf Parihaka is the final chapter of the Land Wars, then Waitara was the beginning\u2014Waitara was the beginning. Even though the Crown renounced its purchase of the Pekapeka Block in 1863, the damage had already been done and was compounded by the confiscation of 1865. You also heard in Mr Young\u2019s speech just what happened after the confiscation and how the New Plymouth District Council is in its third attempt to right this matter. I think the councils are pretty close to succeeding this time, because their hearts and minds are open and they have begun forging a new relationship with the Waitara hap\u016B. I commend them for having the courage to see where the original bill was flawed and recognising that if things were going to be different then they had to act differently towards, particularly, the mana whenua of Waitara. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000537\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI also want to commend the Waitara hap\u016B and the leadership of Te Atiawa. Their conviction that the issue was of the utmost importance to them showed us through the hearings that the councils had not got the bill right, and that we needed to work through some alternative ideas. I know that there is still some disquiet about what has actually been presented before them in this bill that we have in the House, but I know that at least this heavily revised bill enables the leaders of the hap\u016B to engage through hui and k\u014Drero with their people, and this stage of the bill, I feel, will provide a catalyst for that to actually happen. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000538\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EThis second reading marks the beginning of a period of consultation for Manuk\u014Drihi and also \u014Ctaraua hap\u016B to meet and decide whether they can agree with what is being proposed in the bill, keeping in mind that they have really had only just over 3 weeks to actually look at this bill and discuss it\u2014the bill that we have here in the House tonight. Mark my words: there could be Supplementary Order Papers containing any changes they agree upon with the councils. Ultimately, if they cannot support the bill to the final reading, at least there has been, I believe, a clear and fair process to get to this particular point, rather than the original bill, which was, in some ways, imposed on them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000539\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI am heartened, though, that the revised bill does enable some pretty unique things to occur. I want to cover a couple of them. First, it allows the Hap\u016B Land Fund Committee to have autonomy over the fund, to buy developed and maintained land in and around Waitara. This is an essential pathway for the hap\u016B to rejuvenate its connection to Waitara and also the Pekapeka Block. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EWhen we look at the Pekapeka Block, this is a piece of whenua\u2014a piece of land\u2014that is of national significance, because this was the immediate cause of the New Zealand Land Wars. As such a site of real significance, it is appropriate that this bill provides such a strong co-governance arrangement between the mana whenua, the hap\u016B, and the local authorities. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000541\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EThe next part of the bill enables the Waitara River Committee\u2014a joint council and M\u0101ori committee\u2014to have autonomy over its decision making on the river. To the best of my knowledge, that is a first in New Zealand, and something to commend the Taranaki Regional Council for. As we know, the Waitara River traverses through steep hill country, as well as dairy farms, and the Waitara community has raised issues about its cleanliness over many years\u2014over a large number of years. While the Taranaki Regional Council has been improving water quality, the bill will dramatically increase its ability to fund the improvements over and above the Government\u2019s freshwater reform programme. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000542\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EIn short, the bill turns a significant and contentious issue in the Waitara community into a positive opportunity for the Waitara community to grow and prosper. It enables the township to determine its own future in a way that promotes that growth. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000543\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EThe bill also addresses the proceeds of the endowment lands. The New Plymouth District Council could sell the leasehold land today, if it chose. However, the proceeds of doing so would not be used for the benefit of the community, nor would it provide for mana whenua. This bill provides a better outcome for the whole community than what it has in the present status quo. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ESo, in summary, because this bill is very different to what we introduced, I appreciate that the Waitara hap\u016B now have work to do to work through this. They have the opportunity to actually k\u014Drero and hui, and then to discuss their way forward. I acknowledge the two councils again, the two courageous hap\u016B, and Te Atiawa itself. If I am given the privilege to be in this House again in the next term and to be a member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, I look forward to seeing this bill through to the third reading and Royal assent to become law. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000545\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EIt has been a huge journey for Te Atiawa, but, particularly, I come back to the two hap\u016B of Manuk\u014Drihi and also \u014Ctaraua. They have, even in this 21st century, borne the terrible non-communitive way that their ancestors were treated, and so, on that note, I believe that they have shown really huge courage. I commend them and hope that they will find their way through and be able to accept what we have worked really hard to bring to this House. On that note, I commend this bill to the House. N\u014D reira, e mihi atu ki a koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u00222f0f6caee17e4cdc979009d0ba8f1f31\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000546\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222f0f6caee17e4cdc979009d0ba8f1f31\u0022\u003EANDREW LITTLE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I take pleasure in speaking on the New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill. I acknowledge the work of all those who have brought the bill to this stage: the New Plymouth District Council; its current mayor, Neil Holdem; his predecessor Andrew Judd, and also the former chief executive of that district council, Barbara McKerrow, who worked hard with Te Atiawa to get an agreement that has led to this legislation; the Taranaki Regional Council, which has the immediate legal stake in these lands; the hap\u016B, Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua; and of course, the MP for New Plymouth, Jonathan Young, who has shepherded this bill into the House and also assisted with it going through the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I will come to the work of the select committee shortly. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000547\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe course of events that has led this bill to come here and the issues that underpin it have their own interesting path. Mr Korako talked about the origins in terms of the land confiscations in the 1860s, which are these lands. They have been those endowment lands and leasehold lands leased to the occupiers of it since then. Those confiscations followed the Land Wars, about which we are all really starting to learn the true historical significance. But the issue of these lands and the present occupants of them\u2014the residents of them\u2014has been a festering sore in that town for a long time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000548\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EWaitara is a small but very proud town just north of New Plymouth. A working town, it serves the local farming district. Once upon a time it had as its principal employer a massive meatworks\u2014Borthwicks\u2014which has gone now. There is a meatworks there, but it is a producer of very fine goods, and there are a number of other industries that sustain Waitara right now. But still there are residents and occupants of the land there who are paying ground leases under Glasgow leases, which come up for renewal every 21 years, and every 21 years there is a massive hike in the ground rents, and the whole argument gets under way again. That is not to take away from the significance of the local hap\u016B and iwi, who have been seeking their Treaty settlement, of which these lands were originally considered to be a part of. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000549\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003ESo in the last 20 or 30 years there have been two trains of activity happening side by side. One is Te Atiawa\u2014another Taranaki iwi\u2014pursuing their Treaty claims and finally getting their negotiations under way, and the other is the current occupants of the dwellings that occupy that land trying to get what they perceive as their right to purchase the freehold. That was the question that went to the court\u2014it went to the highest court of the land at the time\u2014based on what those residents thought was a promise made to them, that they could get to own their little plot of land, but they were defeated. As a consequence of the Treaty negotiations for Te Atiawa and some very progressive thinking by the community, by the community leaders, and also by Te Atiawa\u2014who at the relevant point elected not to take up the land as part of their Treaty settlement\u2014these arrangements have come to Parliament for its consideration. That is a good thing, and it has been a good step. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000550\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EI think it is also to be acknowledged\u2014the way the land has been administered. The proceeds from the ground rents on the land have been allowed to be used for only very limited purposes. It is currently now under the stewardship of the Taranaki Regional Council, but that relates to maintenance of the sea end of the river and the port and the harbour that sits around there. Through the efforts and the energy of those who have now taken up this issue, while respecting the concerns of the hap\u016B and respecting the concerns of the settlors who are currently on that land, they have come up with a solution that allows the hap\u016B to achieve a benefit and some control about the long-term stewardship of the land, as well as those who have been seeking to purchase the freehold rights of land that they occupy, and a happy conclusion is close to being reached. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000551\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the work of the select committee\u2014particularly the chair, Mr Korako, who has now spoken\u2014for the close scrutiny it has given to the original bill, and for allowing a set of discussions and negotiations to open up to ensure that the ultimate deal that this House will give its final blessing to in the third reading is one that every party can live with and that every party benefits from. I have to say that in relation to Taranaki settlements, that has been one of the virtues in the last few years of this Government\u2019s approach, where flexibility has been allowed for those deeply emotionally felt historical issues. They have been dealt with in a respectful way and that has led to a resolution of those issues outside conventional Treaty settlements. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000552\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EI see the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations is in the House, and he deserves a lot of credit for the approach that he has taken, which I know in Taranaki has made a significant difference to M\u0101ori in that community, and to P\u0101keh\u0101 as well. In the end, when M\u0101ori are unsettled and dispirited about the inability to achieve a resolution to their historical grievances, it means the entire community faces the same disquiet. That we are now in the process of settling longstanding festering issues I think is a credit to all those involved. The approach that has been taken under this bill alone in allowing further discussion, further negotiation, and a settlement that meets the needs of all interested parties is really giving life to the Treaty, and I think that is to be noted, and credit is to be given where it is due.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000553\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe changes that have been suggested by the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee are many, and I think that is a good sign that the committee has been fully engaged. It has listened to those who have come to speak to it, and it has been willing to show that change, which, in this great Parliament of ours, is nothing more than we would expect. Giving a place for the hap\u016B, for Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua hap\u016B, giving them a role in the governance, giving them a role and a say over the proceeds that can be generated through the sale of the leasehold to freehold owners or the ongoing rents that will be collected from the land, is a positive step. Defining the Waitara River and vesting the Waitara River not in Te Atiawa but in a separate legal entity that will look after and provide stewardship for that river, from its origins to where it spews out into the beautiful Taranaki west coast, will, I think, ensure the voice of all relevant parties in managing that river, getting it clean again, and bringing life back to it. That is a great achievement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000554\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EEnsuring a good and fair distribution of the funds to be used for a variety of purposes beyond what the Taranaki Regional Council is limited to doing right now is a positive step as well, and the committee is to be congratulated on ensuring that those concerns have been heard and the ability to do stuff for that community is now to be put in place. The New Plymouth District Council and the role it has played in making other reserve land available to be picked up by the hap\u016B from the proceeds that are generated from the sale of the leasehold lands\u2014that, I think, is also in the spirit of the Treaty settlements and the restoration of land and mana whenua to local hap\u016B, and is to be welcomed as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000555\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003ELike all these things, like all of the settling of these longstanding grievances, in the end it is about restoring justice, giving fairness, and giving peace back to communities again\u2014to the tangata whenua and to P\u0101keh\u0101 settlers there as well. This bill has the ability to do that, subject to what happens in the Committee of the whole House, and I support the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u002292b24863d2284248b75a0180083e4425\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000556\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002292b24863d2284248b75a0180083e4425\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I want to take a brief call following on from that generous and thoughtful contribution of Mr Little to just say a few words of my own. It is perhaps a little unusual for a Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations to take a call on this matter, but let me explain why I have. I think the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee has done a really good job on this legislation. It could be described as principled and clever. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000557\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI have been very involved in Treaty negotiations in Taranaki during my period of stewardship of this portfolio, and I was very pleased to sign deeds of settlement with Ng\u0101ruahine, with Taranaki, and also with Te Atiawa. I signed that deed of settlement on behalf of the Crown on 9 August 2014. All members of Parliament who were present, across all the parties, at Parihaka in June will recall what a powerful ceremony that was, and that legislation has been introduced to the House today. The Office of Treaty Settlements (OTS) and I are very engaged in negotiations with Ng\u0101ti Maru and with all the Taranaki iwi over the maunga. There is a lot of work that I think we as a Parliament\u2014because it is Parliament\u2019s work; I have been very privileged to be the Minister, but it is Parliament\u2019s work\u2014can all be so very proud of. We have addressed these difficult issues, and we have done so pretty well over the last few years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000558\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EBut there was one issue that hung over me like a cloud, and it was this question of the Waitara lands. My chief Crown negotiator for Te Atiawa is the former Labour Minister Rick Barker, who did a fabulous job, but a decision was made during the course of negotiations that the lands were not to be taken back, and it met with a great deal of opposition. I was very worried about this legislation when it was introduced, and I wondered what the legislative course would be. But I think, as I say, Mr Jonathan Young and all the members of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee have done a really good job on this. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000559\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ELook, we are going to deal only with the second reading tonight, and when it gets to the Committee stage in the new Parliament there could well be further discussions about some of the detail. But I want to say to members that I think they have done a great job in a bipartisan way to deal with these difficult issues and bring back to the House a bill that is much improved on the one that was introduced. I know there was a lot of concern when it was referred to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, but, with respect, that was exactly the right committee to send it to. It should not have gone to the Local Government and Environment Committee. It had to go to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee because of the history of the Waitara lands and the history of Taranaki negotiations. It would have been bizarre for it to have gone anywhere else.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000560\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EFor myself, I think that the mechanisms that have been set out in the bill are very good, and I am particularly pleased about the proposals in relation to the Waitara River. Mr Little mentioned I think it was the former AFFCO freezing works, which is now owned by ANZCO Foods after a very interesting case in the courts. It is doing a very good job there employing large numbers of Waitara people, but it is fair to say that while it does not necessarily spread effluent into the river, the river has been very badly damaged over the years, and a lot of work is going to need to be undertaken to get it back to pristine condition. I can say now\u2014I do not think I am disclosing any confidences\u2014that in the course of negotiations with Ng\u0101ti Maru, one of the questions that keeps coming up is the health and well-being of the Waitara River. That it is being addressed in this way I think is a very, very clever approach.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000561\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThere will be matters of detail that a future Parliament is going to have to look at, but I want to commend once again the membership of the select committee and the officials, and I particularly want to mention someone from the Office of Treaty Settlements, Nashwa Boys, who has worked on a lot of these matters over the years and is a consummate professional. I am very, very proud of the work that she and the team at OTS have done because I think the net result is much improved on the bill that was introduced. This is a brief call because I know how keen everyone is to blast through all these stages of various bills so that we can get on to the Private International Law (Choice of Law in Tort) Bill, because it would be great to have that passed by 10 o\u2019clock. So with these brief comments I do not think I have anything more to add, and I will sit down.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022 data-id=\u0022907a0c3c7baa498a9b1aaf65fb8ac30b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000562\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022907a0c3c7baa498a9b1aaf65fb8ac30b\u0022\u003ECATHERINE DELAHUNTY (Green):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Deputy Speaker. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou e Te Whare nui. I have found this New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill to be one of the most interesting experiences of my political time here, and I want to acknowledge that after the first reading, the Green Party agreed for it to go to select committee because we thought there were some really important issues that needed to be looked at. I sat here one night with my colleague Metiria Turei, and I said to her: \u201CMetiria, I think this needs to go to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee.\u201D It was Metiria Turei who made sure that it did, and who negotiated that across this House. That is one of the reasons why I honour her\u2014because it really needed to go to that committee, and the committee did a great job.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000563\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI think it is because, whatever we call this bill\u2014it does not really matter\u2014this bill is about Te Tiriti o Waitangi and the Pekapeka Block. At the heart of it is the issue of what happened historically, which is so alive to the people today in Waitara\u2014to the two hap\u016B, \u014Ctaraua and Manuk\u014Drihi. I just wanted to mihi to them tonight\u2014to those two hap\u016B and to Te Atiawa\u2014and to just acknowledge that whatever work we do is nothing compared with the work that they have done. Whatever we struggle with is nothing compared with the struggle that they have been through. I acknowledge that the leaseholders and all the people who have lived in those houses as individuals have been through a lot, but it is not the same as what has happened to those people who, from the 1860s, experienced total land loss and devastation of their culture. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000564\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EWhen we went up to te \u014Cwae Marae, we heard very strong voices saying to us that this was not just about a district council making an arrangement; this was about the Pekapeka. I think what was really good about the work the select committee did was that we all heard that, and the select committee and the officials tried to work with the spirit of that wero that was laid down to us that day at the marae.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000565\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThe Green Party is very clear\u2014and although I will not be here when the bill comes back to the House after the election, one of us will be\u2014that it is not about the individual; it is about the kaupapa. For us, the kaupapa is that when the consultation is done and when the hap\u016B of Waitara are satisfied, then we will vote for this bill. So we are not voting for the second reading. We are going to look forward to the possibility of voting for the third reading, but we are not prepared to do that until the hap\u016B have had their process. The reason that we say that is because they begged for more time\u2014they begged for time\u2014and they said to us: \u201CPlease do not take this bill back to the House unless we can have proper time for consultation.\u201D This situation, as has been described for others, does allow for that\u2014it allows for that time\u2014and, hopefully, for the resources for that to happen. They had a very, very short period of time to talk to their people and they were not ready to make a decision. Until they are ready, in the fullness of their consultation with all their people in Waitara\u2014those hap\u016B\u2014the Greens will not be making a decision either.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000566\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003ESo we will not be supporting the bill tonight, but we will be reserving our judgment and committed to trying to see. If those hap\u016B come back satisfied that this is sufficient for them, then we consider supporting it, and that, to us, is the principled position for us to take. I appreciate that others see it differently, but that is our principled position, because this is Pekapeka and because the endowment land, whatever percentage of it, is not the whole block that was lost. We are very cognisant of what was told to us by the people up there at te \u014Cwae about the whole block and what it means to them. What they simply kept asking us is: \u201CWhy can\u2019t we have it back?\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000567\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI recognise that this bill, and the Office of Treaty Settlements, particularly Nashwa Boys, did a fantastic job in getting people to the table\u2014they did. They did a great job, and they got people to the table\u2014people who should have been at the table a long time before, like the Taranaki Regional Council. The New Plymouth District Council transformed its approach, and I hope that is forever, not just for the satisfaction of this bill. To me, if it is now ready to have a proper relationship with those hap\u016B in that rohe around these issues of land and awa, that does not depend on this bill. That should be what the councils do forever, so let us hope that this is not just about: \u201CLet\u2019s get rid of this nasty little problem of the Waitara leasehold lands.\u201D Let us hope this is the beginning of a permanent Te Tiriti - based honourable relationship from those councils to those hap\u016B, because it has been missing. I think the New Plymouth District Council has moved widely, but the Taranaki Regional Council had to be dragged screaming, and that is not really the spirit that we need.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000568\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThat is why time must be given for this process to be worked through, and that is why we will be giving it serious consideration and more time before we decide whether we can support the third reading. It is with all due respect to everything that has gone on and all the efforts, but the faces of the people are before me and all I can hear is their voice. I know that the hap\u016B fund and the river fund are great initiatives, but there is a bigger picture that they need to have time to talk through. It is their mamae, and they have to be satisfied that this is the best that they can hope to negotiate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000569\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI am very aware that the leaseholders have been through a number of processes and have been waiting for a resolution as well. What I like about one aspect of the bill is where it talks about spending some of the money, if it goes through, on educating the people about the history. That is where Parihaka has been such an inspiration and is still such an inspiration. I do acknowledge that the whole process that we went through\u2014those of us who went to Parihaka to see the Crown there, to see the people together\u2014is inspirational, and the Waitara people deserve no less. They deserve no less\u2014those mana whenua hap\u016B deserve no less.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000570\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EYes, I think it is great about the river. It is interesting, because I have been working on that river for some time with some other mana whenua, and have been viciously attacked in the local media, which has said that there is nothing wrong with the river. But there is only so much denial\u2014you know, Waitara is not a river in Egypt; it is time to get out of denial about that river. I would welcome that funding to happen under the control of those guys\u2014under the control of the subcommittee that is being suggested to be appointed through a committee of all of the tangata whenua groups associated with the awa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000571\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EIt is the same with the hap\u016B land fund. An opportunity to build an economic base is crucial for the well-being of those hap\u016B. But if those guys have their consultation process and decide that now is not the time for them to accept that some of those houses will be sold, that they will lose, forever, what has always been their long-term passionate heart\u2019s desire, we will stand with them. It is up to us in this Parliament to exercise absolute creativity, as this bill tries to do, and absolute patience as well for what has not been dealt with. If these people say they want the Pekapeka and we need to keep working on it, the Green Party is prepared to keep working on it. We will not be saying: \u201CTake it or leave it.\u201D Yes, there is momentum here and we recognise that, but that momentum has to be based on justice, and justice for all does not include marginalising people who said to us at te \u014Cwae: \u201CKia t\u016Bpato, this is Pekapeka.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000572\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EWe are reserving our judgment. We are hopeful, but we are also respectful that the people of the Taranaki have continually said to us: \u201CBe careful. Be aware of what has been taken from us. Be aware of how we are sick of giving and waiting for trust to be built.\u201D We recognise their position very, very strongly in this House tonight.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000573\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EIt has been a positive process to see the first bill\u2014which was, you know, quite honestly, unacceptable\u2014transformed by the work of a select committee where people were all dedicated to trying to do what was best. We remain pleased by that, but it is in the hands of those people\u2014the hap\u016B te Manuk\u014Drihi me \u014Ctaraua. Their rangatiratanga is what is at stake here. They are not required to sort out the mess that colonisation imposed upon them, but if they can come to a party that meets their needs, we are there as well. We are still going to be listening and we are still hopeful, but justice under Te Tiriti comes first. I look forward to hearing what the hap\u016B have to say back to us. Whakarongo ki te P\u0101remata\u2014listen. We need to whakarongo, and then we can hold our heads up. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022 data-id=\u0022aa7b7bc64a4a423d8f45965d5b9f8b7d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000574\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022aa7b7bc64a4a423d8f45965d5b9f8b7d\u0022\u003EPITA PARAONE (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E \u0100, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Deputy Speaker, ten\u0101 t\u0101tou o Te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 hoki koutou e whakarongo mai n\u0101 i \u0113nei k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki te pire e k\u012B nei te New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000575\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003E[And so thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, and to us the House; salutations, as well, to you there collectively, listening in to these contributions about this bill here called the New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000576\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EFor those of you who are listening and do not understand M\u0101ori, I am just acknowledging the people of Te Atiawa, Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua\u2014that this is their bill, that it has come before the House as part of the process, and that it is in its second reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000577\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EThis bill is a reminder to this country of the dark history of Aotearoa. I do not need to articulate anything more about that history, other than to note that the people of Taranaki suffered not only loss of life but a grave injustice\u2014suffice to say. And I need to put in a plug here: on 28 October, in the North, we will be commemorating the New Zealand Land Wars. So we are starting the process. I do not know where it will be next year, but it will be in Tai Tokerau on 28 October, and it coincides with the signing of the Declaration of Independence, and that is causing some discussion at home.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000578\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EBe that as it may, back to the bill, it involves land that is very important to, particularly, the people of Waitara. I want to say that New Zealand First has certainly looked at the intent of the bill, and we have no difficulty with that. We have provided a minority view, and it covers two issues. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000579\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EOne is that we believe that the remedy of the damage referred to, to the river, should be something that should be picked up by central government. I note from today\u2019s New Zealand Herald that there is a comment here, \u201CRiver clean up: Around 100 New Zealand rivers will be cleaned up with the help of $44 million in grants, the Government announced yesterday afternoon.\u201D Having read that, the first question that I ask myself is whether the Waitara River will be a recipient of part of that fund. If it is, then that would make available the funds that will be drawn from the income of the lease properties available to the subcommittee that has the responsibility of recommending the purchase or otherwise of the lease land as they come up for sale. So that is something that I think will be subject to a Supplementary Order Paper from New Zealand First.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000580\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EThe other thing that has always been an issue for us is the membership of the subcommittee representing both the regional council and iwi. The bill actually refers to members nominated by the council. That could be anyone, but if the nominations are to be councillors who have been elected on to council, then we certainly have a difficulty about the non-council membership of that committee not being subject to the same process. So I would just signal that, but I think that the fact that the bill was referred to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee was a very wise decision of this House. It just re-emphasises to me the importance of things M\u0101ori being referred to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and the fact that the people of New Zealand and of this House should not be afraid of things that clearly have some impact on M\u0101ori being referred to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000581\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EThe acknowledgment of previous speakers of the work that the committee has done is testament to the fact that the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee certainly has the capacity to do so. The work done by officials\u2014and reference has been made to Ms Nashwa; I will just refer to her as Nashwa. The work that she has done is testament to the work that she has certainly done not only for this case but, obviously, for other work on behalf of the Office of Treaty Settlements. I just want to join with previous speakers in acknowledging her in that respect.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000582\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EThe other thing is that I want to acknowledge Mr Young, and I think that he has done a good job in shepherding the bill through the House, and he is an example of a member of Parliament actually representing and assisting his community\u2014two things that I think that all members of this House should be responsible for.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000583\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EThere is not too much else that I would like to comment on at this stage, other than to just reiterate that our position at this stage will be to abstain, in terms of the bill, but we recognise that although this is not a Treaty of Waitangi settlement bill, it certainly has some association with Treaty settlements. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000584\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EI can recall in the 48th or 47th Parliament, where Ng\u0101ti Mutunga came before the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee\u2014these two young gentlemen representing their iwi and being awarded only $14 million. I can remember quite clearly asking them: \u201CWhy aren\u2019t you asking for more given the history of colonisation in that area?\u201D. And I can remember them quite clearly saying to me: \u201CPita, the problem with us is we don\u2019t have the same political influence as other iwi.\u201D And I knew what he was referring to. He was referring to Tai Tokerau, who had Sir Graham Latimer, God rest his soul, and then we had Tainui with Koro W\u0113tere, and others. And here were these two young men representing their iwi, making that plea. But suffice to say that those same young men are today leaders within the M\u0101ori world, and I am talking about Jamie Tuuta and his cousin Dion Tuuta. I will never forget these two young men, with all their kaum\u0101tua and kuia sitting in the back putting their faith in them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EI believe this bill is similar to the people of Waitara putting their faith in this bill to address a situation that has been with them for quite a long time. I think that, to a certain extent, while the original M\u0101ori owners do not get exactly what they want, this bill goes a long way to achieving (1) their desire to have the land returned to them, and (2) the allocation of those funds that they draw from those leaseholds being utilised to do what they would like it to do. So without further ado, I again say that we will abstain, but that does not mean to say that we do not believe in the intent of the bill. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022 data-id=\u00223492d1024d684a8189a0c4894fa23984\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000586\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223492d1024d684a8189a0c4894fa23984\u0022\u003EJOANNE HAYES (National):\u003C/span\u003E I stand to take a call on the New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill in the second reading. I want to acknowledge Te \u0100tiawa, ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Manuk\u014Drihi, and \u014Ctaraua and the many years that they have waited for this day to come. I want to add my acknowledgments to Nashwa Boys, sitting up in the gallery there, for the mahi that you do in the Treaty settlement bills, and especially on this particular bill. I realise it was not the easiest one to do, but we got there and it was all because of your hard work and your diligence to get us there, so thank you very much. I also want to take time out to acknowledge the work of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I do not think I was on the committee when this bill came, but I think, like other members in the House, that it was a bill that needed to come to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I think that the work that the committee has done, led by Nuk Korako, the chair, has been amazing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000587\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EThe lands of Taranaki have been such a big, real dent in our history. When I look at the Taranaki Wars that began back in 1859, because the Crown wanted the land, and especially the land at Waitara\u2014the iwi said no, and that kicked off the first Taranaki land war. It was an atrocity. Even though all the other iwi around the motu came to help out, lives were unnecessarily lost and so was land\u2014485,000 hectares of Te \u0100tiawa land was confiscated, leaving Te \u0100tiawa, basically, with a loss of their social, their cultural, and their political structures for the iwi. However, history is a great thing; it teaches us a lot, I believe. It teaches us things that we should not do and places that we should attempt to remedy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000588\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EOver the history of this Waitara lands bill, there have been several attempts from the New Zealand Government to redress the past. We have a number of important dates as they have gone through in history. In 1999 Te \u0100tiawa signed the heads of agreement. In 2004 the New Plymouth District Council resolved to sell 146 hectares on the condition that proceeds would go to be used in Waitara, and there was the settlement of Te \u0100tiawa claims. There was big opposition to that, which was mounted in 2008\u2014and enter the Hon Chris Finlayson. Through his work, he has been able to resolve the issues that had been facing the iwi, the council, and the leaseholders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000589\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EAs I move through my k\u014Drero, I look at the actual bill itself and the three main policy components of the bill. Just through listening to the k\u014Drero in the House, the discussions that actually went on between the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and the submitters at Waitara, at \u014Cwae Marae, and the discussions that actually helped to shape the bill, it might not be to everybody\u2019s liking but it is something that has actually got us to a point now that we can move forward with the support of Te \u0100tiawa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000590\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EAs I was saying, there are three main policy components in this bill. The first is that the council will bestow 40 hectares of land in Te \u0100tiawa; that includes 13 hectares of vacant land, zoned residential in the district plan and other coastlines. Te \u0100tiawa can use and develop a new base in their Waitara homelands\u2014yay. Te \u0100tiawa will also be acknowledged as the owner of three pieces of reserve lands with the council providing the day-to-day administration. As we have heard in the House tonight, there is joint decision-making on strategic issues for these reserves and Te \u0100tiawa will also have the opportunity to purchase over 30 hectares of land in Waitara in the future through the right of first refusal (RFR) if the council wants to sell. That is a very key component of this bill as well, because it gives Te \u0100tiawa the rights to be able to do with their lands what they want under the RFR.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EThe second part of the bill\u2014as I said before, there are three components to this\u2014is that the leaseholders will have a right to freehold. In other words they will have a right to buy some of the land underneath their family homes, and I am sure the leaseholders will start to feel some sort of comfort around that rather than being bound by those 21-year Glasgow rent cycles, the lease agreements. I am sure that the leaseholders will be very happy with where we have come to on that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000592\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003ELastly, the proceeds from the leasehold land will also be invested back into Waitara. That is really key, because Waitara will be able to actually develop and grow the area for the benefit not just of the people who are living there but also mainly for the iwi. I applaud that\u2014I absolutely applaud that. So the economic development for Te \u0100tiawa will actually grow in leaps and bounds, I believe, because that is an important area but it is also an area that has got considerable potential economic wealth for the iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000593\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EFinally, for the Waitara River, there is the plan to clean the river and keep the river and look after the river\u2014the ability for the Te \u0100tiawa wh\u0101nau to be able to have some say in how that river will be managed into the future. That is a great big plus for the people of Te \u0100tiawa. Just like the Waikato River there is that agreement between the regional council, the council, and Te \u0100tiawa to have their say and to be able to co-manage that awa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000594\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EAs I stand here tonight and I wind up my k\u014Drero to support this bill, I am a little bit disappointed that New Zealand First is just going to abstain. I think that this is too much of an important bill to be abstaining on the vote for the second reading. And also to the Greens, I think that everybody needs to step up, have their say and say that yes, we support this, because this is very important for the people of Aotearoa New Zealand. Yes, it is Te \u0100tiawa; yes, it is Waitara, but they are people, they are tangata whenua of their area, and I believe that we all should be supporting this bill no matter what.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000595\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003ESo without any further ado, I am very pleased and very proud to stand and support and commend this bill to the House. Again, I congratulate Jonathan Young for the work that he has been doing with the people of Te \u0100tiawa and Waitara, the leaseholders, and the council. I understand that it would not have been an easy task, but you have persevered and you have got to this stage, so I commend the bill to the House. Thank you very much.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022 data-id=\u002212113221a6894c689a61bd44fa8d390a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000596\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002212113221a6894c689a61bd44fa8d390a\u0022\u003ECARMEL SEPULONI (Labour\u2014Kelston):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Whare nei, \u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau o Waitara.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000597\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E[My appreciation to this House and salutations to you collectively, the families of Waitara.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000598\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003ETo all the Waitara families out there who are watching this, I am speaking by accident, in some ways, because the minor parties are not here to take a call and the Green Party is not taking a second call.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000599\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003EI want to start by just acknowledging our member of Parliament for Te Tai Hau\u0101uru, Adrian Rurawhe, for the awesome work that he has done with engaging with the stakeholders on this, with engaging with hap\u016B and iwi, with the insights that he has brought to this particular bill from his experience working with our M\u0101ori community and his experience with Treaty negotiations as well. It has been invaluable in this, and it is not just the work that he has done within the community or on the ground on the bill; it is also feeding back to us, as interested members of Parliament, his colleagues, who want to know and have wanted to be kept up to date with what has been happening with this particular bill. Many people know that my interest comes from the fact that despite not being M\u0101ori I was born and raised in Waitara\u2014literally born and raised in Waitara, born in that Waitara maternity home\u2014alongside many people who have a stake and a vested interest in what happens here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000600\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003EI want to refer to the time\u2014maybe a year ago\u2014when I went with Adrian to consult with locals about what they thought about this particular bill. This particular meeting was one of those ones where you have a massive turnout. There were two people who showed up. The thing that really struck us was that you had an older P\u0101keh\u0101 woman who was retired and not in a position to purchase a home or pay the inevitable increased lease that was going to be asked of her, and on the other side you had a younger M\u0101ori man, Sheldon Healey, who had a family and a vested interest on behalf of his family with regard to being able to purchase that property.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000601\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003EThe thing that struck us was that, despite the fact that they had different perspectives, they respected each other\u2019s position and had consensus around the fact that an answer had to be found. The feedback that we get from Adrian, from the process that he has been engaged with, is that that is exactly how the process has run the whole way through. Whether it be hap\u016B, leaseholders, Te Atiawa Trust, the council, the district council, or the community at large, it has been a respectful process and people just want to come up with a solution. So we are here tonight supporting this bill\u2014supporting this bill under the recommendation that came to Adrian from the wider community, but from the hap\u016B as well, to support it to its next stage, and to keep considering what we have in front of us so that we can come up with a solution that meets the needs of all of the stakeholders that have been engaged with this process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000602\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge both the hap\u016B, Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua hap\u016B, and the Te Atiawa iwi. I want to acknowledge all the leaseholders. I want to acknowledge everyone who has been engaged, not just our MP for Te Tai Hau\u0101uru, on this side of the House, but also the MP for New Plymouth, Jonathan Young, over there. I just especially want to just\u2014you know, we all have the hope that, actually, some of the hurt that has been caused by past actions would be healed in this process, and I think it has been great that there has been general consensus across the House that we need to look for the best outcome for Waitara here. It has not been used as a political football, which is unusual in this place, actually, to be honest. I think everyone is looking for the best results. Kia ora koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000603\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224c8f506fcbef4d659b5e4464995bcdad\u0022\u003EKelvin Davis\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Deputy Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022 data-id=\u0022dd75220066b14818af8a48fa25b64f62\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000604\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022dd75220066b14818af8a48fa25b64f62\u0022\u003EMr DEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Is this another 5-minute call? This is not, sorry. I call Barbara Kuriger.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u0022218c0994ae1344c59171a4a7737a1d6a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000605\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022218c0994ae1344c59171a4a7737a1d6a\u0022\u003EBARBARA KURIGER (National\u2014Taranaki - King Country):\u003C/span\u003E It is a pleasure to take a call on this bill. I have not been part of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee but I have had a knowledge all of my life in growing up in Taranaki about the hurts and grievances that have been around Waitara. I will say that for a big part of my life I knew there was hurt and grievance but I did not really know the full history. As some of the speakers before talked about, as we work through this process, we should be looking at telling the story and making sure that people in generations to come fully understand. My grandparents actually retired in Waitara before they passed away. That was many, many years ago\u2014my dad\u2019s parents; they actually passed away when I was 8 years old\u2014but I do have memories of going to Waitara.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000606\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EI was doing a little bit of research before, not just about the history of the Land Wars, which are an atrocious piece of history, but for both sides there has been disappointment. The town was apparently also supposed to have been the capital of the Taranaki province, and would have been, they say, if chief surveyor Carrington had been a better sailor and had enjoyed the trip over the Waitara River bar. Instead, he was terrified and decreed that all the locals\u2019 cunning plans were to come to nothing and went ahead with a breakwater and a port at New Plymouth instead. It is amazing how that disappointment at Carrington\u2019s perceived treachery has carried down over the years and how coming, as it always did, from the town\u2019s business elite, it may have hampered growth and formed the \u201Cpoor relation\u201D attitude that the town has had about itself.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000607\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EI do not think it has just been an attitude thing; Waitara is town that really has not had a fair go. It is a low socio-economic town. Waitara east is decile 9 and Waitara west is decile 10. The iwi have not been given a fair go, due to those horrific events. When I think about it, 1860 was 100 years before I was born, so there has been a lot of grievance and a real lot of hurt for a very long time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000608\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, which has spent so much time working on this. I know this is a second reading, but I really hope that we can make this work going forward, because I think this community has suffered for far too long. I would like to acknowledge Nuk, the chair of the committee, and Jonathan Young, as the local MP and the sponsor.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000609\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EI have got a couple of tiny little wee pieces in this area in my electorate, the golf club being one of them. I must admit, I have never played a game of golf at that golf club. I have played only one game of golf in my life, very badly. But it is a part of my electorate that I fully respect in terms of this bill. Look, you know, I now realise the relevance of it\u2014the horrific history and how this was a place where we started a piece of our New Zealand life that really is not very memorable. So I would really like to thank the iwi and the hap\u016B, both Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua, and the New Plymouth District Council\u2014those people who are currently in the council and, particularly, the past mayor and the CEO, who were very instrumental in getting this going\u2014the Taranaki Regional Council, and I would also like to acknowledge our Minister Christopher Finlayson, who has done a lot of work around Treaty settlements. He is a very well-respected Minister and member of Parliament who does a fantastic job.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000610\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003ETonight a few people in the course of this have talked about Parihaka. I grew up, again, about 20 minutes from Parihaka, and we all knew that there was something terrible that had happened there and did not quite know the full story. I feel very blessed and very special that I was able to be at that celebration that we had recently.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000611\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003ESo what I would ask for tonight is to have some tolerance, and it really is disappointing for me that we do have some parties that are abstaining and some parties that are voting against this, because my view is that if the people in the community and the iwi and the hap\u016B are happy with what we are doing, then it really is not up to us to then turn round and change what they agreed. And so, not having been part of the process\u2014I understand there is more listening to go on, and I understand there is a wee way to go with this, but I really feel like it is important that we show some tolerance and we take that on board.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000612\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003ESo this is a community that I want to see reach its full potential. We often talk in this House about housing and people buying homes and people buying first homes, and I know that for a long time those people of Waitara have wanted to freehold those homes. So for them it is a win. For the iwi and hap\u016B it is a win in terms of being able to get some funding over time. And, look, always acknowledge that there is a generosity in all of these things. With any settlement, it takes a big heart for people to accept what is being offered, because it can never make up for the wrongs of the past.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000613\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003ETe Atiawa is seeking the return of their land. The leaseholders, as I said, are seeking to freehold their houses, and the community has not been able, up until this point, to make the best use out of the proceeds of the land. So all of the work that the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee has done with the local community and iwi is going to be very, very beneficial to people going forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000614\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EI do not really want to extend this speech or contribution for much longer\u2014just to say that I fully support this as a relatively local MP and someone who has been seeing this go on for a long time. I think we really owe it to ourselves going forward to ensure that we get this to fruition, because these people\u2014all of them\u2014have suffered for long enough, and I would like to see Waitara go forward. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u002254ac9d3ac10b4c3d903a8f897693346d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000615\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002254ac9d3ac10b4c3d903a8f897693346d\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Deputy Speaker. As a very proud member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee\u2014we have been patting ourselves on the back here tonight. But I really do want to acknowledge the work of Nashwa Boys, who is sitting up in the gallery there. To a person on our committee, we were absolutely amazed and thrilled at the work that she had put in to bring this all together. We were at a stage when we were pulling our hair out, and then, I think, within a week or so we were all smiles and full of joy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000616\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003ESo I just say to Minister Finlayson that Nashwa is worth her weight in gold, and having pulled this one together for us, I would suggest a couple of months in the United Nations sorting out the Middle East tensions and then, when she has resolved that, there is a little issue of a not-insignificant iwi up North, north of Whangarei. It straddles the Bay of Islands and Hokianga. Maybe she could work her magic there as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000617\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223e85a0315a114099a901cc3e18b801ed\u0022\u003EMr DEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Cut her teeth in Palestine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000618\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b002ab4b5fe9453a8fa544bfbc2398e4\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, cut her teeth in Palestine before she starts on Ng\u0101puhi. Not putting too much pressure or expectation on her, but I am sure she is up to it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000619\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003ESo the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee\u2014we have done a great job, and I do want to acknowledge Jonathan Young and Adrian Rurawhe, Jonathan in particular coming in to sit in on the committee and doing some fantastic work running around in the background, bringing us updates on a regular basis, and also Adrian Rurawhe, of course. It would be really nice to have heard the M\u0101ori Party\u2019s take on this bill, but maybe it has given up on Te Tai Hau\u0101uru.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000620\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThe changes made by the select committee include redrafting the preamble to acknowledge Waitara\u2019s role in the New Zealand Land Wars, remembering that the first land wars occurred up around the Bay of Islands in my neck of the woods, but in the 1860s, Waitara was where the first shots of the\u2014if you could call it\u2014second lot of wars began. As Barbara Kuriger has said, it has been 150 years of angst and pain, and it is great that we are on the cusp of actually resolving this for the tribes of Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua. Te Atiawa turned down this opportunity to purchase the lands themselves as part of their claims settlement. They were not happy about having to pay for the return of the land and that it was encumbered with perpetual leases. Now, let us just put that into a modern-day context about having to pay for your own property that was stolen. If someone was to steal my car and the police came along and said \u201CKelvin, we\u2019ve got your car here, but we want you to pay to have it returned.\u201D, I would not be terribly happy. In effect, this is what Te Atiawa were being asked to do: \u201CHere\u2019s some money, but buy back the land.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000621\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThe Manuk\u014Drihi hap\u016B and \u014Ctaraua hap\u016B are being defined as Waitara hap\u016B in this bill. The bill also includes a definition of \u201CWaitara hap\u016B entity\u201D; it is an entity that represents both the Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua hap\u016B. The Waitara River is being defined as \u201Cthe body of water known as the Waitara River that flows continuously or intermittently from its headwaters to the mouth of the Waitara River on the Tasman Sea and is located within the Waitara River catchment;\u201D and includes all tributaries and streams. We have heard that funds are going to be set aside to tidy up that river, and that is only a good thing. As Pita Paraone has made comments on, there is a fund that has been established to clean up rivers, and he posed the question of whether the Waitara River would be eligible for some of that clean-up money, and whether that would actually free up some of the money for other things.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000622\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003ELand is going to be vested in the Waitara hap\u016B entity rather than Te Atiawa, and there are going to be more complex governance structures and arrangements for expenditure of the relevant income by the New Plymouth District Council and the Taranaki Regional Council. I also take the point that Catherine Delahunty made\u2014that the engagement by the Taranaki Regional Council, in particular, could have been better. There is this reticence by some organisations to engage early with M\u0101ori organisations, hap\u016B, and iwi, and if people just put that reticence to the side and genuinely engaged at an early stage, we would probably have these types of issues, these types of matters, dealt with in a much swifter manner. Notwithstanding that, we are where we are now, and it is great to see.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000623\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EI do not intend to carry on much longer. I am really looking forward, in the next Parliament\u2014assuming that I will be here\u2014to seeing this go through the Committee stage and then the third and final reading. The people of Waitara and all the stakeholders\u2014and I will just read them out: there are the leaseholders in Waitara, there is the Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua hap\u016B, Te Kotahitanga o Te Atiawa Trust, the New Plymouth District Council, the Taranaki Regional Council, and the Waitara community in general, plus all of New Zealand. They have been waiting for way too long for this very complex Waitara situation to be resolved. We are almost at the finishing line, and this is a great thing for all those stakeholders and for the country. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022 data-id=\u002206b6b71acf1e4fd685c7f4c3b98997c7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000624\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002206b6b71acf1e4fd685c7f4c3b98997c7\u0022\u003EHon CHESTER BORROWS (National\u2014Whanganui):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Assistant Speaker. It is a privilege to breach protocol and give a speech on a bill that I have been sitting on. Next Tuesday is my valedictory, so by the time I get in trouble I will be out of here. It is pertinent to stop and have a look at how the bill got before the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, and we will have various views, but I recall sitting in the Chair there and thinking that this should be coming to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I was approached by Jonathan Young, then Nuk Korako, and then a number of others, and we saw the discussions going on around the Chamber. People realised very quickly that this looked and smelled and sounded like a Treaty settlement bill, and the committee that was rightly placed to be able to consider it was the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EI am glad that that decision was made. Albeit where cognisant of the parliamentary processes, there would have been the fear that if the matter had gone before another select committee where the Government had a majority\u2014it was a local bill, and the convention is that you support local bills right across the House, regardless of whether you are Government or Opposition. It no doubt would have gone through in the form that it was in, and it was in a flawed form. The fact is that every commentator on this bill, everyone who has had a look at it, has recognised that it was not in good nick when it came to the House the first time. Thankfully, there has been an awful lot of work going on to get it in that space.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000626\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003ESo we have mentioned a lot tonight, such as\u2014quite rightfully\u2014Jonathan Young, the member of Parliament for New Plymouth, and the work that he has done. We have also quite rightfully mentioned Nashwa Boys sitting up there in the gallery now. It is good to see you there, Nashwa. The work that these two did particularly, and others who moved within those stakeholders, as articulated by Kelvin Davis earlier, is very, very significant, because what I hope it does is it gets across to the public that they can have confidence in this parliamentary process, that everything is not a done deal, and that things can be changed. Over a period in Parliament, you can see a number of occasions when common sense prevails\u2014thank God.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000627\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EI also want to commend the work of the select committee members, who kept asking difficult questions, not only before the select committee but when we were spoken to by our caucuses. We are in a difficult situation, because the guts of it came along after the settlement with Te Atiawa, so the immediate response from one sector of the community was: \u201CWell, they want to have their cake and eat it too. They got monetary compensation through the Te Atiawa settlement bill\u2014$23 million for not getting the land back. They agreed they weren\u2019t going to get the land back, and here you are trying to give them the land back. Well, how does that work?\u201D. Those stakeholders were concerned because the leaseholders had been told, quite wrongly, at the time that they took out the lease, that they were assured of having an opportunity to freehold their land at some time down the track. They went ahead and went through those transactions of buying that land for their own uses, but many of them\u2014some of them, rather\u2014went out and speculated by purchasing other land in the hope that they would be able to freehold it later on down the track to their own benefit.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000628\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EI think the saddest thing in looking at this, in considering the bill, was that it set Te Atiawa against the iwi of Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua. It is sad when you see families fighting, and that is the situation that we had here. The hap\u016B walked away from the Te Atiawa settlement, and quite justifiably so. But it is great to see that through the work that has been done by those people whom we have mentioned, and the fact that they have managed to sit down with one another, they are now in the space where they are having the opportunity to have a look at something that is much more palatable in reconciling history and also in acknowledging the hurt that still continues today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000629\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EThe fact is that raupatu lands that were confiscated in the 1800s have had an ongoing and material effect on communities. Living in Taranaki for the last 30-plus years, I can say it is obvious. It sticks out like the proverbial. When you look at colonised people around the world, they are all in exactly the same spaces\u2014overrepresented in areas of health and welfare and employment and prosperity. It sticks with them. These injustices stay with them for generations upon generations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EAnother feeling of sadness I have around the hap\u016B, in having to consider this, is that they have not had the time. The benefit of the Treaty settlement process is\u2014because it goes on for an extended period of years, people work through the processes and consider then what the profit and loss is going to be, and end up in a place in their minds where they are ready to settle albeit not rewriting history, albeit understanding they are not going to get back full value and full monetary compensation, but actually getting to a place where they are saying: \u201CLet\u2019s just have this settled.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000631\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EThat is a process that takes years. But, in this case, the two hap\u016B have had weeks. It was very, very difficult then for them to be able to get that place in their mind, where they can actually say: \u201COK, we\u2019ve chewed this over and we are going to settle on this.\u201D If they get to that space in the next couple of months, all power to them. The decisions that they make, and hopefully they will make, to proceed with this bill will be something that will not rewrite history. It will not tart it all up and make it something acceptable. But what they will have is tangible assets that will be able to be used for the betterment of the future of them and their families living in Waitara.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000632\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EAnother part of this bill that I am very happy with is the obligation to educate. Earlier on in the select committee, last year, we had a petition from two young girls from \u014Ctorohanga about having a commemoration day for the Land Wars. This was something that many others had tried, including none other than Dame Tariana Turia, who could not make it work through the House. These two young girls have petitioned the Parliament, and before it had even completed its transaction through the select committee it was agreed that this would happen. Now, as we heard from Pita Paraone, on 28 October this year will be the first recognition of those Land Wars.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000633\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EI have got to wonder, when I was going through school\u2014quite a number of years ago\u2014why it was that I was learning about the unification of Italy; why I was learning about parliamentary reform in Britain, or the former provinces of New Zealand; and why I never learnt a thing about the Land Wars in New Zealand, some of which we are talking about right here and now. It is good to know that that is going to be a different situation for my grandchildren\u2014hopefully I will have some, one day, in this country and not in Canada\u2014and they will have the opportunity to learn about the history as it is. I never came across any of this until I moved to Taranaki, and as the local policeman in P\u0101tea, started learning a little bit about these things.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000634\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EPeople have had land confiscated from them in these horrible Glasgow leases that go on ad infinitum, with 21-year leaps\u2014totally disproportionate leases being charged either far too light if they are well into the 21 years, or far too heavy if they are newly into the 21-year period; never having an opportunity to be able to remove the improvements, and being locked into a situation where they are kept within perpetuity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000635\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EOf course, the other problem that we have within this land is harbour board endowment land, kept for a specific purpose. Leases that are charged on harbour board endowment are then going for the betterment of the harbour, not necessarily being spent in there in the past, and never being spent locally in Waitara for the benefit of those people who are living there and have been there for some time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000636\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225f1453f8-c44e-4ce6-b699-64d600322276\u0022\u003EIt is certainly a situation where there is much pleasure in being able to commend this bill to the House. It has certainly been, for me, a great experience to see this piece of legislation transact through the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I do commend it to the House. I commend it to the people of Manuk\u014Drihi and \u014Ctaraua, and hope that it will be passed into law next term. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022ac29781d14bf49879f559438d1fdce37\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments recommended by the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee by majority be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 93\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 58; New Zealand Labour 31; M\u0101ori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 13\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EGreen Party 13.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAbstentions 12\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand First 12.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EQuestion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000637\u0022\u003EBill read a second time.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000638\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002224cfc0b5c81e4baaa4c045872567bafc\u0022\u003EThames-Coromandel District Council and Hauraki District Council Mangrove Management Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000639\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022110cf0df695742deb3f9c3b5885fe3fb\u0022\u003EFirst Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022 data-id=\u0022cf609566e6f647a1b8441c0e220655da\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000640\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cf609566e6f647a1b8441c0e220655da\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON (National\u2014Coromandel):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Thames-Coromandel District Council and Hauraki District Council Mangrove Management Bill be now read a first time. I nominate the Local Government and Environment Committee to consider the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000641\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EMangroves and their proliferation around the beautiful coastal shores and tidal estuaries of the Coromandel and the Firth of Thames have been the subject of much debate, discussion, deliberation, and dithering over the last 20 years or so. It is with pleasure this evening that I rise as the member of Parliament for Coromandel, as sponsor, to introduce to the House this local bill on behalf of both the Hauraki District Council and the Thames-Coromandel District Council.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000642\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThe councils have not taken this step lightly. The two councils are predominantly rural and coastal in their character. Each council has a small ratepayer base, which means limited resources are available to undertake all the functions required of local government. Both councils also have a ratepayer age demographic that is heavily skewed to those in the plus-65-year-old age group. Typically these are people who are often retired and living on fixed incomes, which in turn only emphasises that every dollar taken in rates must be a dollar well and wisely spent on their behalf.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000643\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThis is a bill that provides for a public process, allowing the two councils to develop an approved mangrove management plan. The councils are merely seeking the ability to create their own plans, because the Waikato Regional Council has spectacularly failed over a long number of years to manage effectively or efficiently the vast proliferation of mangroves within the two councils\u2019 coastal boundaries. This failure has now so compromised the amenity quality of people\u2019s lives that it is at a point where something must be done. I congratulate the councils on taking this initiative and for boldly stepping up where the regional council has so obviously failed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000644\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThis bill is not about why the mangroves are there or what has caused their proliferation or where they are. This is a bill merely about allowing the councils to develop their own mangrove management plan. Some years ago the Waikato Regional Council struck a special mangrove removal rate on properties at Whangamata. It has raised, in that period of time, something over $1.5 million, but less than 10 percent of that $1.5 million has actually been spent on the physical management of mangroves. The vast bulk of that $1.5 million has been spent on lawyers, consultants, resource consents, appeals, the writing of reports, and the review of those reports. No wonder the people of Whangamata want action, and these councils\u2014Hauraki and Thames-Coromandel\u2014have, via this bill, found a way through the malaise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000645\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EA streamlined, cost-effective, efficient, community-based process is required to ensure the councils are mandated to implement a plan that reduces impediments to human amenity and allows access to improve recreational values. The district councils\u2019 desire to see limited resources more effectively utilised is at the core of this bill. The bill empowers each council to prepare a draft mangrove management plan in relation to the coastal area of its district to achieve and maintain acceptable levels of mangrove vegetation. This is not a bill that is aimed at removing or eradicating all mangroves\u2014that is absolutely not the purpose. I know that there will be some who will criticise it as some kind of mangrove scorched earth policy; that simply is not the case. This is a bill to manage mangroves where they impede human amenity. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000646\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EUnder the bill, a draft plan would be approved through the special consultative process under section 83 of the Local Government Act 2002. The bill provides that the councils, if they agree, may prepared a mangrove management plan in a collaborative way, including by adopting a single integrated plan for both districts should that prove to be a better and more efficient option. The plea that this bill makes is to give the responsible control and management of mangroves to the local communities that know and hold dear their harbours and tidal estuaries without the financial burden imposed by current processes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000647\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThe lower Firth of Thames is an internationally significant tidal wetland protected by the Ramsar Convention and is an important wintering ground attracting thousands of Arctic nesting shorebirds such as the bar-tailed godwit and the red knot. The seaward advance of mangroves in that area since the 1940s has considerably reduced the feeding habitat available to the birds. Community concern about the impacts of mangroves dates from the early 2000s, with, notably, the concerted effort since 2005 by citizens of the Whangamata community to address the spread of mangroves and to ensure the restoration of harbour amenity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000648\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EPeople naturally think that mangrove management should not be that hard. To the south of my Coromandel electorate in and around Katikati, Tanner\u2019s Point, and Kauri Point in the Bay of Plenty Regional Council area, they seem to be able to manage mangroves without any great issue. North of my electorate\u2014Auckland City\u2014seems to be similarly able to manage them. But throughout the Waikato Regional Council area there seems to have been no political or elected representative will to manage mangroves. It is as if the personal eco-political agendas of those involved have been allowed to get in the way of sensible, prudent, pragmatic management of an issue that, on the face of it, is so simple, but one that has caused so much angst and heartache, to say nothing of the costs to the citizens, ratepayers, and good people of the Hauraki and Thames-Coromandel districts.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000649\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EMechanisms for allowing a transfer of authority under the Resource Management Act from regional to district councils do not adequately address the timing and resourcing concerns. The process undertaken so far under the Resource Management Act has been costly, time-consuming, and has simply not delivered outcomes. The Thames-Coromandel District Council has, amongst all our local authorities around New Zealand, the largest proportion of absentee ratepayers. Many of these visitors together with the resident population enjoy the amenity, both ecological and recreational, offered by the peninsula\u2019s various harbours, and estuaries. They are, indeed, a key feature that gives the district its distinct character. This bill is asking the House to let the engaged communities of Thames-Coromandel and Hauraki look after their special harbour and estuarine areas without the burden of excessive process and regulatory costs. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000650\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EIn conclusion, I want to acknowledge with thanks the Thames-Coromandel and Hauraki district council officers, the mayors Sandra Goudie and John Tregidga, the local communities and citizens of Thames-Coromandel and Hauraki for their relentless focus in mangrove management issues. This is a simple local bill being promoted by two hard-working and caring local district councils, frustrated by years of inaction at a regional level. I am very pleased, as the local member of Coromandel, to be able to sponsor this bill into the House this evening, and I commend it to members for their favourable consideration and support.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022 data-id=\u0022d8003643137b43ce8f7026cb35069abe\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000651\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d8003643137b43ce8f7026cb35069abe\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour\u2014Hauraki-Waikato):\u003C/span\u003E Actually, a former member of that Government who is now the current Mayor of Thames-Coromandel District Council made her name on chopping down mangroves, so it is no surprise that this bill has been brought to the House, and it is no surprise in terms of the content of the speech of the local member Scott Simpson that much of the focus was on the efficient allocation of resources\u2014I hear that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000652\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ELabour will support this bill, at its first reading, going to the select committee because we know locally this is a contentious issue. No matter what people think about mangroves, whether they should be there or not, how they enhance the ecological environment\u2014the whole approach to a mangrove management strategy and what that means for parts of the coastline holds quite a deep significance for the people who live along it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI want to focus on a few things. Firstly, the Hauraki Gulf, T\u012Bkapa Moana as it is known to local iwi there, covers about 800 kilometres of coastline. There are strong views amongst iwi in terms of the contribution of mangroves to kai that is often secured from around these areas like p\u016Bp\u016B. My daughter loves to go and collect p\u016Bp\u016B\u2014it is a sea snail - type of creature\u2014and it is something that, as a small wh\u0101nau community, they go and gather kai to contribute to certain events. So when I heard comments around the amenity value, one of the local concerns is that the amenity value is, primarily, for recreational purposes. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000654\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EIf that is the case, the issues around opening up more of the coastline for recreational use without the considered impacts on the coastal environments, the birdlife there, the kai moana that is there, become a challenging issue. But that is exactly why we would want this bill to go to the select committee. If you are not from the coast and do not appreciate some of those strong connections that people have to their part of the rohe and what they feel is important in terms of retaining the type of ecological value, then I think people will not really understand how strongly felt some of the concerns are here. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000655\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThe other point that was well made was with regard to the existing regional council process. It has been long and frustrating and very difficult if, at a planning level, people want to take a more proactive and constructive approach to mangrove management plans. I acknowledge that, and, again, the Waikato Regional Council has done a number of studies on getting the right balance between the various types of amenity values and also the contribution that mangroves make to parts of the coastline where they are suffering greater erosion\u2014that they are a buffer to flooding, that they can actually protect the coastline in some valuable ways. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000656\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI am sure that when all the heads around the table with the best evidence are constructing these plans they are trying to manage the balance of these types of interests. One of the things that the current process affords, which this bill does not, is that the plans under the regional council process are certified by qualified experts in this area, and obviously supported and backed up by a lot of research. So this is an important component of the current process that could be considered within the context of this bill and whether or not it could be a helpful addition to the way in which district councils are intended to create plans in the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000657\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThe other aspect that I want to comment on is local sentiment. It is true that councillors, certainly in the Thames-Coromandel District Council\u2014if I recall, Councillor Simon Friar was championing an approach here. A local survey that was taken among residents at the time had around about 68 percent of the respondents agree to 73 hectares of mangroves in the Whangamata area being removed. So, you know, we cannot ignore the fact that there are very strong local opinions both ways. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000658\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI just want to make sure, really, for the most part, that the select committee process will bring the strongly felt views of the community out into the open and that the way in which the community can participate in the method that the bill is proposing can be a public process that assures the public that they can contribute to the decision making. Whether or not there are current aspects of the way in which management plans are, for example, certified by qualified experts could be integrated into this bill\u2014also to get that ecological and recreational amenity balance right. For all those reasons, the bill should go to the select committee. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000659\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI wonder whether this bill is being promoted purely for administrative ease, rather than looking again at some of the science and the information that are informing the contribution that mangroves make to our marine coastal environment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000660\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI did not want to take too long a call, because the sooner we can get the bill to the Local Government and Environment Committee, that we can call for submissions\u2014I know that there will be quite a large number of submissions for the committee to hear. The other key aspect\u2014which my colleague rightly points out\u2014that is omitted in this process is circumventing the Resource Management Act. That, again, becomes quite a large area of consideration, where local voices, again, are not taken into account. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000661\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EOn those key fronts I believe that I have made a number of important points. T\u012Bkapa Moana is the Firth of Thames. The M\u0101ori word for mangrove is \u201Cm\u0101nawa\u201D. A m\u0101nawa is a heart, but, in this sense, with the ecosystem, it acts as a filter and it expresses the role of the heart as a filter of the marine environment. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000662\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI hope that we can have a pretty sane debate. I know that when the current Mayor of Thames-Coromandel District Council championed this particular issue she was all fired up\u2014on fire and, you know, red hot in all sorts of ways\u2014about this issue, and focused a lot of her efforts and contributions on progressing this debate. She has had her chance, now that she is the Mayor of Thames-Coromandel, and has taken the opportunity to promote a bill of this sort. I do hope that, in calling for submissions, the select committee ensures that people get a good hearing and that the public gets a good chance to air its concerns around achieving the right balance, in terms of mangrove removal, public participation in the decision-making process, and also getting the balance between the recreational and the ecological amenity values right. Kia ora koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022 data-id=\u0022fe28988d55344b75a0095f0880005fb1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000663\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fe28988d55344b75a0095f0880005fb1\u0022\u003EANDREW BAYLY (National\u2014Hunua):\u003C/span\u003E It is a pleasure to be talking on the Thames-Coromandel District Council and Hauraki District Council Mangrove Management Bill at its first reading. Of course, we are talking about m\u0101nawa\u2014Avicennia marina\u2014commonly known as the mangrove. Of course, this is a facilitating bill for the Thames-Coromandel District Council and the Hauraki District Council, and it recognises the scourge of mangroves. It empowers each council to put in place a good management plan to be able to implement some changes\u2014and what a good thing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000664\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EI think it is an excellent job by the local MP, the Hon Scott Simpson\u2014and why? Because these mangroves are proliferating. They are growing like triffids\u2014ha, ha! Goody two-shoes will tell us that they are great for the environment, that they create havens for birds, and that they are natural filters of the water. Well, in my view, that is rubbish. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000665\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003ENew Zealand\u2019s coastline is infested with Avicennia marina\u2014not like the other 29 species of mangroves. The concept that sedimentation caused by mangroves is beautiful\u2014is a good thing\u2014is, in my personal view, misguided. How can 8 tonnes a year from a mature mangrove forest be a good thing, in terms of building up sedimentation? I have seen it. I have walked through what the sedimentation is below a New Zealand mangrove forest\u2014what it looks like and feels like\u2014and it is a wasteland. It is a wasteland. True mangroves in other areas around the world are like rainforests, but not in New Zealand. The reason why this is is that we only have one species\u2014one species. And that is the trouble. It is a blight, it is monoculture, and it is expanding\u2014partly driven, unfortunately, by fertilisers applied by farmers on their land. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000666\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EI understand the international significance of the site, particularly near Miranda and the Firth of Thames. It is a wonderful space where we have those wonderful godwits and the red knot birds that come and forage and wade through the water. But that area has been taken over by mangroves. This is what we are trying to do, because it is not only in the Firth of Thames. It is in areas like Mangawhai, Tauranga, Kaipara, and Hokianga Harbour, and in my own electorate in Waiuku. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000667\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EThe difficulty these people find in dealing with these mangroves\u2014in Waiuku, great guys like Ian Scobie and Dave Gribble , and a bunch of farmers took it upon themselves to clear a great area of mangroves\u20149 hectares initially. They got out there because Ian recognised that he wanted to get his canoe out into the harbour there, and to be able to paddle up and down the Waiuku estuary. As a result, they started to cut through the mangroves and everyone was behind them. But guess what\u2014guess what? The council came and said they could not. They have had a raging battle, with the council trying to impose new conditions on their consents. They have brought in a whole lot of issues such as what it does for birdlife. They talked about a whole lot of birds, but, in particular, the braided bird is one that they believe is absolutely essential. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000668\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EWhen you clear mangroves you start to see the shoals of fish coming in. In Waiuku, for instance, they have already had the tern show up. Kingfishers are coming back. White-faced terns\u2014and now, more recently, pied stilts, oystercatchers and, during the summer months, godwits, wrybills, banded dotterels, and red knots\u2014 \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000669\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222df33ee5-23d6-441c-a9ba-6495aa69f9fd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223bdac9b392b548f0bd82db381db2dd5d\u0022\u003EDenise Roche\u003C/span\u003E: Where do they live?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000670\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222998173e00434148a33d1a46d0cbb7d3\u0022\u003EANDREW BAYLY\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014and I know the Greens over here like dotterels, as I do. It is true that it is the hard work of volunteers who are getting out there, like our group in Waiuku, who will be able to make a change, and that is why this is such a good bill. I absolutely commend the work of the member for Coromandel, the Hon Scott Simpson, for bringing this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u0022a10af01d18394e71be87989b5217fc69\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000671\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a10af01d18394e71be87989b5217fc69\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard)\u003C/span\u003E: As I call Catherine Delahunty, I am just going to lament the lack of Latin in schools in recent years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022 data-id=\u0022bb618c05fb7d405094503e9bdfd13ebe\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000672\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bb618c05fb7d405094503e9bdfd13ebe\u0022\u003ECATHERINE DELAHUNTY (Green):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Assistant Speaker. Sometimes I think I have heard enough, and then I hear something new. I hear that the colonisation of the coast is being committed by a dangerous, invasive species, and I hear that the Associate Minister for the Environment has put up a bill that suspends the assessment of the environment Acts so that a former vandal who took a chainsaw to a mangrove could satisfy her desire to cut up the coast. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000673\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThe ecological ignorance that has been displayed in this House tonight is remarkable\u2014it is remarkable. Those members do not understand anything about our coast. They have written a bill without proper scrutiny and without proper process so that they can facilitate people cutting up mangroves\u2014as Sandra Goudie did\u2014as if they are the enemy of the environment. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000674\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EMangrove is m\u0101nawa\u2014it means heart, as the Hon Nanaia Mahuta said. Why does it mean heart? Because it is the heart of where the fish actually breed. We have a crisis in fisheries because we have destroyed so many areas for coastal fish to breed, and these people want to cut it all up without due process. It is fantastic for them, but all it does is show that National members are the enemy of the environment, and that they allowed their Associate Minister for the Environment to bring this bill to the House is absolutely extraordinary\u2014absolutely amazing. I really find it extraordinary. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000675\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI live in the Hauraki\u2014T\u012Bkapa Moana. My family has been there for quite a few hundred years. I know the Gulf and I know the other coasts and I know the people, just like those members claim to. There are going to be many people joining our campaign against this bill because it does not represent the ecological passion that drives our communities up there. The coast is affected not by mangroves, but by poor land uses. So if we want to fix the problems, what do we do? Do we attack the coast with a chainsaw, or do we fix the sediment that is blocking up the harbours and changing areas that were previously open coast? Those members have got absolutely no ecological common sense whatsoever. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThey say: \u201CLet\u2019s attack this stuff, get the right to attack it, and then we won\u2019t deal with the land use issues.\u201D We have got some very poorly managed forestry in our area, but these guys never mentioned that, because they do not even know anything about the area. They have got no idea about the lack of buffer zones in forestry, or the way in which particularly the Wharekawa and Whangamata have been affected by poor forestry management, which has led to excessive sediment. If you take away the mangroves, where does the sediment go, people? Into that magical space called away\u2014out into the sea, where we do not have to think about it. If you are a vandal, it does not matter that the ecosystem is intimately connected\u2014land and sea. They will just take out the barrier. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000677\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThe other thing that is virtually madness is there is this thing they have not heard of called climate change. Do you know what happened\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000678\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227dd81165deaf4d38a6275f2b0fad0dad\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: You don\u2019t even have a spokesman. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000679\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002234119d76b53f4602957060832cd5b7c7\u0022\u003ECATHERINE DELAHUNTY\u003C/span\u003E: We are all spokespeople on climate change, Simon\u2014all of us who understand the crisis. If you take this stuff off the coast, you open the land up to the risks that come with sea level rise and storm surges, and if they knew anything about climate change\u2014which, clearly, they do not\u2014they would realise that the mangroves are a buffer. They are not only a home for fisheries; they are also a buffer. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000680\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EIf you want to modify your environment in some places without a chainsaw, which is perfectly legitimate\u2014you do not have to go in there without the law and attack the coast like a bunch of Visigoths\u2014it would be quite good if you followed the letter of the law, instead of creating laws to undermine it. I have got 27 seconds to point out that clause 5 says: \u201CThe mangrove management plan may include any other matter that the council considers desirable or necessary to give effect to the purposes of this Act.\u201D That is vandalism. That is legal vandalism. I know why this is written in here\u2014\u201Cany other matter\u201D\u2014and you are going to get one iwi representative on a committee to discuss this? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000681\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EYou guys have got no idea\u2014sorry, Mr Assistant Speaker, not you. But them\u2014they do not know what they are doing with this bill. It is ridiculous, and we will fight it to the end. Kia ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022 data-id=\u00227ad6f618dd2e4fdd8cefbbeb0a1b0f0f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000682\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227ad6f618dd2e4fdd8cefbbeb0a1b0f0f\u0022\u003EMATT DOOCEY (National\u2014Waimakariri):\u003C/span\u003E It is a pleasure and a privilege to rise in support of the Thames-Coromandel District Council and Hauraki District Council Mangrove Management Bill in its first reading. I must say that after listening to the member Catherine Delahunty, who has just resumed her seat, it is clear why New Zealand is looking for environmental direction from this Government when, compared with the Opposition, that is all it has to offer. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000683\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003EIt is very clear why we now have the Bluegreen platform of providing pragmatic and practical environmental policy, because, for us, we believe that the world operates in a system. What this bill is ultimately underpinned by is the belief that the mangrove is growing out of control in the coastal system. So we are not saying: \u201CLet\u2019s completely eradicate it.\u201D I think the Hon Scott Simpson summed it up very eloquently when he said that it is not a scorched earth policy. It is very much Bluegreen thinking. It is pragmatic and it is practical, and what we want to do is manage the system of mangroves. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000684\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003EI cannot claim to have experienced overgrown mangroves, myself. We do not tend to have them down on the Waimakariri coastline. Probably it is a bit too cold. But it was helpful to have that, I suppose, etymology lesson\u2014well, even probably a slight lesson in Latin as well\u2014from Andrew Bayly, who I think\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000685\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221dbaf032620348ceb0197da5206416b1\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard)\u003C/span\u003E: No. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000686\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022926fdc9c6c0042c4ac3adf97bb618a41\u0022\u003EMATT DOOCEY\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014perfectly captured the history and the background to this plant. I just wanted to add mine, Mr Assistant Speaker, because I did do my research on Wikipedia. In 2000, in the world, the total mangrove forest covered 137,000 square kilometres, and it covered 118 countries. So the mangrove does get around. That, in my calculation, is about two-thirds of the countries. There we go. So that is the mangrove\u2014it gets around. So, clearly, we have to be watching the mangrove, because it does tend to take over. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000687\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002298d481d1514d4f77a51603e12a956167\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard)\u003C/span\u003E: The member might even like to refer to the bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000688\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022583d0cf35ce140dfae5ac4c333954ee8\u0022\u003EMATT DOOCEY\u003C/span\u003E: As you have, quite rightly, said, Mr Assistant Speaker, I will refer to the bill, because this bill is a local bill, and, in fact, the whole point of a local bill is to connect with local issues. So what we have got here is potentially quite a contentious bill that does need to go to select committee, and I think Nanaia Mahuta clearly outlined the reasons of the two camps. In fact, that is why we have the parliamentary process to send it to the select committee. It is disappointing that the Greens do not believe in that democratic process of sending it to the select committee. Let us hear what the public has to say, and from that we can look at the bill, give it a kick round, and then bring it back in a good shape, and that is perfect for the parliamentary process. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000689\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003EI must say, nearing the end of possibly the last members\u2019 day in the 51st Parliament, I did not think I would be talking about mangroves, so I do hope that I possibly get to talk about them again. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000690\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003EBut what we have here is a local bill that is trying to deal with the issue of bureaucracy. We have heard tonight that $1.5 million has already been allocated to the management of mangroves in this area, and that led to only 10 percent of that money being spent on mangrove eradication. So, clearly, we need to address that bureaucracy. We need to cut that red tape. I think that by this bill we can have a mangrove management plan that will be agreed between two councils and that will, ultimately, achieve the end result where people in this area can enjoy their coastline without it being overrun by the mangrove. Thank you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022 data-id=\u00225bdfa518f940428fbf63b2f2df9e2028\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000691\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225bdfa518f940428fbf63b2f2df9e2028\u0022\u003ERON MARK (Deputy Leader\u2014NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E Look, it is a very short bill and it is a very simple bill. From New Zealand First\u2019s perspective\u2014we had a bit of a conversation about this in Parliament\u2014we are going to vote to support this bill through to select committee. I cannot help but make the comment, which is slightly off the bill, but is in reply to the last speaker\u2019s comment that we would ask that this bill be voted through to the select committee so that it may be discussed. That comment was from my \u201Ctwin brother\u201D over there, Matt Doocey, who wears the same haircut as I, and is from Rangiora, as well\u2014a brother from another mother. I have got to say that I wish the same view had been expressed over the Youth Employment Training and Education Bill, which was to let it go through the select committee for analysis, conversation, and discussion. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000692\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EBut that is not what the bill did. So I have to say, Mr Doocey, that I take your words with a handful of salt. Despite what I consider to be a not genuine argument, we will support this bill through to the select committee for that very same reason that you espoused. We just wish that you had showed the same view, taken same approach, to Darroch Ball\u2019s Youth Employment Training and Education Bill, which is something that you promoted in 2008\u2014military training for young people not in education and not engaged in training. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000693\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022af23f78f8f1a432dab72ab097d665dd7\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Not really relevant.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000694\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224029115639d54a6da06caa02f94f1f29\u0022\u003ERON MARK\u003C/span\u003E: We digress, but I think it is relevant, Simon\u2014what is your name? Powers? No. What is his name? \u201CBrylcreem\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000695\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223139f64ec56149d6af1697f6b3ebab80\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: I don\u2019t know, \u201CRonald Dark\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000696\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f592f4f19e204be1b8272ba8fd4fbe28\u0022\u003ERON MARK\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry, it escapes me now. Simon \u201CNo\u201D Bridges is interjecting on me right now, but Simon \u201CNo\u201D Bridges\u2014Simon Bridges, who built no bridges in Northland\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000697\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f95d6795ffd74994bc1fe897a292c0bb\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard)\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member will resume his seat. I think I have given the member considerable latitude for 2 minutes, and I am not sure yet that he has shown any sign of knowing what the bill is or is about. It would be very good if he got to it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000698\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022756bf15d7cda4f63a865a3e77717cdb8\u0022\u003ERON MARK\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. \u201CA streamlined, cost-effective, efficient, and community-based process is required to ensure that the councils are mandated to implement a plan that reduces mangrove growth to acceptable levels that will improve any access, recreation, amenity, or ecosystem values.\u201D We understand that. We get that. We agree with that. But we do ask why this bill is restricted to Thames-Coromandel. Thames-Coromandel is not the only place in New Zealand that has mangroves. Thames-Coromandel is not the only place in New Zealand that is struggling with the same issue within its communities. Some of us would say mangroves are not even indigenous and they should not even be here. Some of us might argue that there is no value whatsoever in allowing mangroves to continue. Others might argue that there are other ecosystem advantages to having mangroves continue, but they do need to be controlled. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EWe would agree with the National Party, and specifically with Scott Simpson, who has done a tremendous job as the chair of the Local Government and Environment Committee in the time I have worked with him, and who has been rightly elevated in recognition of his work. So we recognise that and we support that, but we would make this proposition: if the National Government is serious about this, then why not expand the bill?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000700\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222960e98e8a3d45d793bafb2bf5028a8c\u0022\u003EHon Scott Simpson\u003C/span\u003E: Because it\u2019s a local bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000701\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002203735ece0af847a88fab64bcf7be84d6\u0022\u003ERON MARK\u003C/span\u003E: Well, why not consider further how we might expand that bill? Yes, this is a local bill. The member is quite right. But let us have a wider conversation. I am not an Auckland boy\u2014I am fortunate that I have a partner who is an Auckland girl who would never go back to live there\u2014but I drive through Auckland frequently and I look across those mudflats and the mangroves, and the conversation is clear. How far do you allow those mangroves to spread? I have had people say to me, well, Coromandel is fine, but what about Whangarei? We have got people saying to us right now that it is an issue in Whangarei. We have got people saying it is an issue in Auckland City. We have got people saying it is an issue in other parts of Northland. The question is, if Parliament goes this far to, quite rightly, satisfy the request of a specific district and a specific council, Thames-Coromandel District Council\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000702\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022190f9e98323241cd94ca44e502be7c47\u0022\u003EHon Scott Simpson\u003C/span\u003E: And Hauraki. Two councils.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000703\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b2cc9110b37f47d7b66efe0d6e6fd26d\u0022\u003ERON MARK\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014right\u2014then can we not have a conversation more broadly? We will look for that conversation in the select committee phase, but at this point in time we think the bill has merit. The bill should go through to select committee, and we will quite happily support that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022 data-id=\u00223987694db4524893a8cbbf4b202732cf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000704\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223987694db4524893a8cbbf4b202732cf\u0022\u003EJOANNE HAYES (National):\u003C/span\u003E I stand to take a brief call on the Thames-Coromandel District Council and Hauraki District Council Mangrove Management Bill. I visit the Coromandel, or actually Thames, quite often. I have family who live up there, and it is hard to believe when you look around that area that back in the 1940s, it was sandy beaches there. It has been taken over by mangroves. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000705\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EBut this bill is not about eradicating all mangroves; it is about management. It is about empowering those councils to be able to manage how mangrove plant plantations are going to survive up in the Thames-Coromandel and Hauraki districts. So when some of the Opposition members say that we are going to wipe it out\u2014no. It is called a management plan, and it is a plan that will empower those district councils to be able to manage what they perceive as a weed that is overtaking their shorelines and their beaches and actually interfering with some of the recreational and fishing events in those areas. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000706\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI want to thank the Hon Scott Simpson, the MP for Coromandel, for bringing in this bill and for being a voice for the district councils up there on the coast. I am looking forward to it coming to our select committee because I think, as others on my side of the House have said, we need to get it and have a good look at it and listen to some submissions around it, and then bring it back to the House for further readings and for Royal assent. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000707\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EWithout any further ado, I commend the bill to the House. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022 data-id=\u00225dd6104675b64f58afc0cebcccf34a85\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000708\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225dd6104675b64f58afc0cebcccf34a85\u0022\u003EHon RUTH DYSON (Labour\u2014Port Hills):\u003C/span\u003E It is really unusual for a member of the Government who is trying to filibuster on members\u2019 bills to not even be able to speak for 5 minutes. I want to first of all acknowledge the member of\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000709\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207d42dbe-f05a-4a7a-8c23-0eecc14b72aa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a3de6e275efb41478c330bcb6f5cecb1\u0022\u003EPaul Foster-Bell\u003C/span\u003E: She\u2019s not trying to filibuster. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000710\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228efd7f1f0aaa4edea4d1fc36151a7d52\u0022\u003EHon RUTH DYSON\u003C/span\u003E: Play the tapes\u2014play the tapes. I want to commend the member Scott Simpson, who has introduced this local bill, and say that I was pleasantly surprised that he seemed to have resolved his differences with Sandra Goudie, the former local member of Parliament and now the mayor. They are working hand in hand, just like that\u2014so close. It is a delight to see central government and local government politicians working so closely together. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000711\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003EI also want to say that I am very suspicious that this local bill has been brought in tonight, and I regret having to say that about the Hon Scott Simpson because I think that for a National Party member of Parliament, he is a jolly fine person, actually. He is passionate about the environment, he works hard, and I think his promotion to Cabinet was well-deserved, but I think that this bill is in the House so that my bill, which would otherwise have been read, is further down the Order Paper. That is why it is a local bill and not, as Ron Mark suggested, a more comprehensive look at whether the Resource Management Act (RMA) is still the most appropriate tool at the moment for dealing with the issue of mangroves across the country. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000712\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003ESo that disappoints me. But I have to say that I was really pleased to learn that despite the National Party members saying foolishly, incoherently\u2014and Andrew Bayly demonstrated that again tonight\u2014that they would be voting against my retirement village bill enabling residents to get a rates rebate, which would have been read ahead of this bill, I would have had a majority of Parliament voting for it. I am really pleased to acknowledge that the New Zealand First members, the Green Party members, the M\u0101ori Party members, and Peter Dunne would have joined with Labour and would have had my retirement village rates rebate bill passed tonight, had this Thames-Coromandel District Council and Hauraki District Council Mangrove Management Bill not suddenly appeared as a pressing local issue from the local member of Parliament, working so closely with his local mayor. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000713\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003ELabour is supporting this bill to select committee. It is a reasonable debate to have. We know that when the mayor was a member of Parliament, she tried to deal with the issue of mangroves restricting the berthing of local yachts in a rather inappropriate way. She took to the mangroves with a chainsaw\u2014that is my recollection\u2014and then said that she hated them all and they should all go. This bill is certainly a more appropriate way of deliberating on the issue than her approach, but I am concerned that this completely puts aside the processes of the Resource Management Act. The National Government has done that far too often over the last 9 years, and I do not think we should continue to do it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000714\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003EIt is really important that local people across the country have their say on this. This is not a Thames-Coromandel issue, even though the instigation of this bill is from that area. We know in this Parliament that as soon as National sees a way of undermining the RMA\u2014if it works here, those members will say \u201CAh! Great, let\u2019s roll it out across the country.\u201D, and I do not think that is appropriate. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000715\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003EWe also know that even though the member introducing the bill described mangroves as though they were sort of climbing in through the window and strangling the local residents, and turning the TV on to another channel\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000716\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a8eb4ffbde4940ec976d43fcb05a363f\u0022\u003EHon Scott Simpson\u003C/span\u003E: It was him\u2014it was him. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000717\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fcfdfe61d7974805b429c97acaa83832\u0022\u003EHon RUTH DYSON\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014oh, it was just the member behind you\u2014but, actually, mangroves play a really important role in our ecosystem. They provide habitats for fish, they provide habitats for birds, and they provide habitats for shellfish. The member himself talked about the birds in his area, and I know that he is a committed conservationist and environmentalist, which further added to my surprise that he introduced this legislation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000718\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003EIt is getting near the conclusion of this Parliament\u2019s time, so this bill will not be heard at a select committee prior to the election. I hope that the member reflects on the weakening of the RMA, and on whether this is the best way to progress the concerns that local residents have about the intrusion of mangroves. I think it is better to do it in a more open way. I think it is important to balance what is clearly a commercial pressure against an environmental pressure, and to make sure that in the end we do not do such damage to the environment on behalf of commercial boat owners or developers that we are never able to repair that again. So I am interested in seeing the debate at the select committee after the election. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002207d42dbe-f05a-4a7a-8c23-0eecc14b72aa\u0022 data-id=\u002251b6e0fff69948a3ac6f11575259bb45\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000719\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207d42dbe-f05a-4a7a-8c23-0eecc14b72aa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002251b6e0fff69948a3ac6f11575259bb45\u0022\u003EPAUL FOSTER-BELL (National):\u003C/span\u003E I am making a very brief and, certainly, non-filibustering contribution on this Thames-Coromandel District Council and Hauraki District Council Mangrove Management Bill, in the name of my colleague, the very fine member for the Coromandel, the Hon Scott Simpson. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000720\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207d42dbe-f05a-4a7a-8c23-0eecc14b72aa\u0022\u003EI want to begin by saying mala herba cito crescit\u2014it is an ill weed which grows apace\u2014and mangroves certainly are an ill weed. I spent a good few months in my very first job after school combating the mangrove swamps of Northland on behalf of Golden Bay Cement Works Ltd, and I can tell you they are a noxious weed. They do certainly grow apace, and I think this is a very sensible measure. I want to commend the local member, but also Mayor Goudie and Mayor Tregidga for bringing it before this House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000721\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207d42dbe-f05a-4a7a-8c23-0eecc14b72aa\u0022\u003EI would like to see consideration in committee to possibly extend it to other areas where appropriate, but we know that other areas, in many cases\u2014as the member Scott Simpson outlined\u2014are doing a better job, certainly, than those within the Waikato Regional Council area. It is a very good bill, and it deserves further consideration. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a94870a7-abc4-4c1b-bd1e-8a27b98a2a4c\u0022 data-id=\u0022ad8e165437884c509b49b7b8fdaf814e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000722\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a94870a7-abc4-4c1b-bd1e-8a27b98a2a4c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ad8e165437884c509b49b7b8fdaf814e\u0022\u003EMOJO MATHERS (Green):\u003C/span\u003E It has been very interesting listening to the conversation. The level of ignorance about the ecological and economic values of mangroves has been rather alarmingly on display tonight. This bill is fundamentally flawed. It is a massive step backwards, and it puts aside the protection for our environment that exists in the Resource Management Act (RMA) by overriding the processes that exist for controlling mangroves, to enable, as the bill\u2019s explanatory note says, removing, preventing, controlling, destroying, and disposing of mangrove vegetation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000723\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a94870a7-abc4-4c1b-bd1e-8a27b98a2a4c\u0022\u003EThe attitude of describing mangroves as a noxious weed and something that is going to take over the whole of New Zealand if we are not careful reveals a fundamental lack of understanding of the ecological value of mangroves in providing valuable and essential habitats for native fish, for shellfish, and for birds. That includes\u2014and I hope that Scott Simpson is listening here\u2014the banded rail, which has all but disappeared from other areas.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000724\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a94870a7-abc4-4c1b-bd1e-8a27b98a2a4c\u0022\u003EBut also, moving on from ecological values, which are indisputable, I also want to touch on the economic value of mangroves. They act as a natural shield against storm tide surges, erosion, and sea level rise. Rushing ahead with allowing the large-scale destruction of mangroves without going through the resource management process is a very short-sighted move that could prove extremely expensive in the long run. Mangroves have proven time and time again that they are extremely valuable protection and defence against storm surges because they dissipate wave energy. Very recently, the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment highlighted that the extremely damaging storm surges, which can cause massive amounts of erosion in one storm surge and are currently a once-in-a-hundred-year event, are likely to occur every year with just half a metre of sea level rise. Every year we would have what is currently a once-in-a-hundred-year - level storm surge.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000725\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a94870a7-abc4-4c1b-bd1e-8a27b98a2a4c\u0022\u003EThe Waikato Regional Council\u2019s report on mangroves concluded: \u201CThe mangrove forest provides a number of ecosystem services, which mitigate the potential coastal erosion and inundation hazards that exist for the low-lying Hauraki Plains.\u201D Think about that. We are already seeing erosion from rising sea levels in many coastal areas of New Zealand, and mangroves actually provide a very valuable soft-level defence. It is absolutely counter-productive to tear out a natural barrier against storm tides and erosion and sea-level rise, when these people will later be crying \u201COh, we want to protect our property.\u201D, and they want to build their extremely expensive concrete defences. That does not make economic sense. It does not make environmental sense and it does not make economic sense. If the National Government is serious about planning for climate change it will still regard mangrove swamps as its allies, not as something to be destroyed and wiped out at a potentially enormous economic cost. It is just so illogical.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000726\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a94870a7-abc4-4c1b-bd1e-8a27b98a2a4c\u0022\u003EIt also ignores the reason mangroves are increasing and spreading over some areas. It boils down to the fact that the single thing that you could do that would be the most effective at limiting mangrove spread would be to reduce erosion and sedimentation. Why do we have sedimentation? Because of inappropriate land-use practices, inappropriate harvesting of forestry in some places, and overgrazing in others, with increased rainfall events that are washing out far more soil into the bays. All of these factors combined are what are contributing to both the loss of valuable soil and the spread of the mangroves. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000727\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a94870a7-abc4-4c1b-bd1e-8a27b98a2a4c\u0022\u003EBut we also need to be seeing that mangroves are economically and ecologically valuable, and the RMA is the place where these processes can be balanced out against each other. We should not be discarding that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022 data-id=\u002297f63be0873c49208f435140c609c72c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000728\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002297f63be0873c49208f435140c609c72c\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON (National\u2014Coromandel):\u003C/span\u003E I would like to just commence this reply contribution by thanking members from across the House for their contributions on this first reading of the bill. I was delighted to hear contributions from across the House that, in most cases, I think, understand and get the point of the bill, with the exception of the Green Party contributors, who clearly still do not quite get the purpose of the bill. The bill is aimed at merely managing, providing the two district councils\u2014two district councils\u2014with an opportunity to create their own mangrove management plans. That is simply because the current system has not been able to achieve anything like the outcome that the citizens\u2014the human beings, the people who inhabit the coastal areas around the Thames-Coromandel and the Hauraki districts\u2014need to have to ensure that their amenity values and their way of life are preserved and maintained.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000729\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThis is a good bill. I wanted to just comment on the contribution of Ron Mark from New Zealand First, because he asked a question about why this bill does not go further geographically than beyond the boundaries of the Hauraki District Council and Thames-Coromandel District Council. The simple answer to that is that this is a local bill, initiated and promoted by those two district councils. If this bill is passed at first reading and it does go to the Local Government and Environment Committee, then there will be an opportunity, I would suspect, at that point, for a wider discussion about the bill\u2019s application to district councils and territorial authorities outside the two areas that are promoting the bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000730\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ESo just in conclusion, this is a bill that is not about a scorched earth policy towards mangroves. This is about simply giving the two district councils an opportunity to create, through a formal process that will involve public participation and scrutiny, their own mangrove management plans. I think it is a good bill. I am pleased that the two councils have brought it to me to bring to the House and, as the local member for Coromandel, I support it and I commend it to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00225352d1604bc3482fbd4a6436c20e2e7c\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the Thames-Coromandel District Council and Hauraki District Council Mangrove Management Bill be now read a first time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 105\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 58; New Zealand Labour 31; New Zealand First 12; M\u0101ori Party 2; ACT New Zealand 1; United Future 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 14\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EGreen Party 14.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EBill read a first time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000731\u0022\u003EBill referred to the Local Government and Environment Committee.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000732\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ff429ad4d944435487a46d6e579cb850\u0022\u003EFilms, Videos, and Publications Classification (Interim Restriction OrderS) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000733\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00226727bba252b844f19ae9c37e0b53c78a\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u0022c71db5247086446aa7f4c41121dea96b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000734\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c71db5247086446aa7f4c41121dea96b\u0022\u003ECHRIS BISHOP (National):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Films, Videos, and Publications Classification (Interim Restriction Orders) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. This is a bill that has been widely canvassed at the first and second readings and at the select committee stage and the Committee of the whole House stage. There have been no amendments made to the bill since the select committee stage. As has been widely canvassed in the House on previous occasions, it makes a small but useful change to the regime around interim restrictions as part of our censorship law in order to avoid a situation like we had with Into the River, the book that was banned, temporarily at least, for 6 weeks in 2015.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000735\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EI do not think I should take up any more of the House\u2019s time. I commend the bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022 data-id=\u0022b59467b1d3c84c7ca2284cb252024bcf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000736\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b59467b1d3c84c7ca2284cb252024bcf\u0022\u003ECLARE CURRAN (Labour\u2014Dunedin South):\u003C/span\u003E It is interesting when a member gets up and gives a less-than-a-minute speech in the third reading when I think the members on the other side of the House spent quite a lot of time canvassing the issues in the Committee stage.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000737\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229e38f60e1dec4c89a943664c1d7b2e28\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s the point.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000738\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e396aeac99ec42a0868b091ca92414eb\u0022\u003ECLARE CURRAN\u003C/span\u003E: Ha, ha! I certainly think, from the Labour Party\u2019s perspective, that this is a small bill. We agree with that. We agree that it has some use. We agree with that, and we support it, but I think it is also important to make a couple of points. One of the points is that given that this may be the member Chris Bishop\u2019s last contribution to this House, I would say to him that if you are going to bring a member\u2019s bill to the House, try to make it count.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000739\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003EHe made some points in the first reading about the wider issues around censorship and around the role of the Film and Literature Board of Review and its processes. I think that it would be good for him to reflect on making a more substantial contribution around not just its role in making the interim restriction orders but its role in general, which he actually alluded to in the first reading, and also to the film and classification process in general, which is currently in a situation of being an anomaly in New Zealand, because we have films that are classified under one Act, television programmes that are classified under another, and digital programmes that have no classification regime.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000740\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002295f27502363b4a1a9378b41cea65054f\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard)\u003C/span\u003E: I am going to interrupt the member. While it might not be particularly easy for me to do it, I do want to make clear to the member that what she is asking cannot actually be part of the third reading debate. We are now debating the bill as it has emerged from the Committee of the whole House and the debate in the select committee stage that occurred previously. It is not a general debate on the bill or on the area.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000741\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223f1644223aa04eab9e79443468c2cbd8\u0022\u003ECLARE CURRAN\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. Those points are still quite relevant, and there is still no legislation that applies to them. This is a bill that corrects an anomaly\u2014a very small anomaly\u2014in legislation. Small can sometimes be quite important, and I think that given the fact that it did result in a book that was written for teens, \u201Cout of the water\u201D, being banned temporarily and unable to be taken out of the library, it does matter. That does matter.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000742\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003EI do want to acknowledge the fact that the member actually did attempt to address that anomaly. But in addressing that anomaly he did not look beyond, and I think that is\u2014you know, if you are going to come to this House\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000743\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002281107534e281492487a15343ee8ee5a3\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard)\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Just improve the tone slightly, please.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000744\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022950309b576a2416a8b3917120549003f\u0022\u003ECLARE CURRAN\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014it is important to actually think, a little bit, in a big-picture way, because, otherwise, what is the point of being a member of Parliament if you are not trying to make substantive changes? I would advise the member that, if he actually has any future in the Parliament, when he brings a member\u2019s bill he actually seeks to address more than just a tiny little anomaly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000745\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003EWe do support your bill. There has been quite a lot of debate about the bill. There are much bigger issues in New Zealand than the bill that this member has put before the House tonight. It is almost 10 o\u2019clock on a Wednesday evening, and if any members of the public are listening to this debate, they are probably asking: \u201CWhat on earth?\u201D. But we do support it. We do think that the interim restriction orders under the parent Act did need to be revised. We did support the change. We have questioned the wider issues around classification of content online. We do think that the contesting by Family First, which resulted in this book being banned, was an out-of-date and out-of\u2014you know, in 2017 it is a method that should not be allowed to occur. The decision of the film classification board should have been able to revert back to some sort of existing or previous classification, and that is what this bill, essentially, does.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000746\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003EThe upshot of this is that we do support this bill. We are sorry that the member could not have thought in a slightly bigger-picture way about the classification system generally, because the Government has not gone down that path in its 3 years. Looking at the convergence regime, there has been no legislation come from that Government\u2014no legislation in this space at all\u2014which shows that it is a backward-thinking Government, in terms of convergence and the convergence between all the digital platforms.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000747\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222aa0b524-c38d-45aa-bd5b-99c5927085f4\u0022\u003EThere is a huge gap in legislation in terms of the classification of content in New Zealand. It is negligence by this Government. At least this member, Chris Bishop, has tried to fill a tiny little gap in legislation. It is a bit sad, but we support it, and we hope that his legacy in this Parliament\u2014well, his legacy in this Parliament is now before the House. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022530ce0c4-c977-40cb-90fb-754f54931ff1\u0022 data-id=\u002288fd27932de54f989d92f84c6df3a6fc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000748\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022530ce0c4-c977-40cb-90fb-754f54931ff1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002288fd27932de54f989d92f84c6df3a6fc\u0022\u003ETRACEY MARTIN (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E I rise on behalf of New Zealand First to speak on the Films, Videos, and Publications Classification (Interim Restriction Orders) Amendment Bill. Up until this point, New Zealand First has opposed this bill, but we have taken the time, and we have been persuaded by Mr Bishop\u2019s eloquent arguments about why the changes that have been made at the Justice and Electoral Committee have been needed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000749\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022530ce0c4-c977-40cb-90fb-754f54931ff1\u0022\u003ENew Zealand First, as the responsible, reasonable party that it is, had a wide and varied conversation at our select committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000750\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022530ce0c4-c977-40cb-90fb-754f54931ff1\u0022\u003EDebate interrupted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20170809ecd7065c7d964cd58f5c1c957f6f2e11000751\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022530ce0c4-c977-40cb-90fb-754f54931ff1\u0022\u003ESitting suspended from 10 p.m. to 9 a.m. (Thursday)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ce196467392f4aad9a585ae2fb2569e2\u0022\u003EWEDNESDAY, 9 AUGUST 2017\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000002\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00225dcde0d2f8204bdfad389f881fc6d4c3\u0022\u003E(continued on Thursday, 10 August 2017)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002288f6ca14fcf14f23b5a749d3506b2726\u0022\u003EKarakia\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227ce11ebf2314480da492a5bc95396bb3\u0022\u003EKarakia\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022 data-id=\u0022a180f5cc05194f4e83d3ecc0ca96244c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000004\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a180f5cc05194f4e83d3ecc0ca96244c\u0022\u003ENUK KORAKO (National):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Speaker. I ask that we be able to start with a karakia before we begin.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ebc006aeaf4b41a4802f684404fa1fa2\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Would that be appropriate once we have called Government orders of the day Nos 1 and 2? The karakia is associated with the legislation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b68b7c47142c473dae4982053da30838\u0022\u003ENUK KORAKO\u003C/span\u003E: With the opening of the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e4b09a29-dfd3-42c0-8585-11463bd6077b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002203e750df325c448a9d3ffb3c231fd81f\u0022\u003EMr SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The start of the day. Leave is sought for that course of action; is there any objection? There is none.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a8e6974f6f294433a27a84bd6974f4cd\u0022\u003ENUK KORAKO\u003C/span\u003E: Kia ora e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101, \u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koutou; n\u0101 ko Waitaka o t\u014D m\u0101tou m\u0101tua t\u016Bpuna, e huri noa i Te Whare nei, e mihi atu ki a koutou katoa. Ko t\u0113nei karakia t\u012Bmataka e huihuia t\u0101kata. Kia \u012Bnoi t\u0101tou. \u201CKei mua Koe i \u0101 m\u0101tou mahi katoa, Ihowa, hei tohutohu i \u0101 m\u0101tou mahi katoa. Ko Koe an\u014D hoki e whakakaha i a m\u0101tou mahi katoa, he mea t\u012Bmata, he mea mahi, he mea whakautu i roto i a Koe kia whiwhi ai hoki m\u0101tou i te ora tonu i te mea, atawhaitia nei e Koe. Ko Ihu Karaiti nei hoki t\u014D t\u0101tou Ariki, \u0101mine.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker, and salutations to you collectively; now Waitaka is our ancestral forefather and so I acknowledge you all throughout this House. This commencement prayer is one for a gathering of people. Let us pray. \u201CLord, You are before us in all that we do, and will teach us. You will also give us strength in all our work as a thing that commences, operates, and responds through You so that we will continue to receive wellness as well because of Your care. Jesus Christ is indeed our Lord. Amen.\u201D]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227802befa3ef249719cf1af2504d8c12e\u0022\u003ERangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 (Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua) Claims Settlement Bill \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f33e852d576d4afc9efe57ee3e5c5247\u0022\u003EIn Committee\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u00229da76409b26343649223f3c5d91e4086\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229da76409b26343649223f3c5d91e4086\u0022\u003EBARBARA KURIGER (Junior Whip\u2014National):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave for both bills in the Committee of the whole House stage to be debated as one question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u00229b1e1b98df0a490f8adc453f1df68dc6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229b1e1b98df0a490f8adc453f1df68dc6\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is no objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022843472f8ea9f44c3bbd324fe145395f0\u0022\u003EParts 1 to 3, schedules 1 to 4, and clauses 1 and 2\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u0022f5de394ea001439fb3ba483992e045ac\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f5de394ea001439fb3ba483992e045ac\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I will just say something briefly about Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 353. As I mentioned in my second reading speech, the committee reported the bill back to the House on 20 March and recommended it be passed without amendment. This SOP deals with minor technical amendments. It is going to make changes to eight clauses and two schedules. Most of the amendments are updates to legal descriptions of certain cultural redress, properties that have been surveyed. The amendments ensure that what is being recorded on computer freehold registers is accurate and the amendments also refer to updated provisions of another Act.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 353 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson to clauses 63, 66, 69, 72, and schedules 3 and 4 be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EAmendments agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EParts 1 to 3, schedules 1 to 4, and clauses 1 and 2 as amended agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EBill to be reported with amendment presently.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00220e0f73972b704d5585df927ed4a92fec\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d394a42c06994dc888d6c234bd78620f\u0022\u003EIn Committee\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022f4f0e426db61477c9e1a8805630754a4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f4f0e426db61477c9e1a8805630754a4\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: As previously advised, this will be taken as one question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d317c66506e14d8d8bba376855e9ccde\u0022\u003EParts 1 to 3, schedules 1 to 4, and clauses 1 and 2\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u00229af207530d2a454f93378a9245cfc49a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229af207530d2a454f93378a9245cfc49a\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I need to say something about Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 354, because it does not deal with just technical matters so I will take honourable members through it. In my second reading speech I noted that the committee reported the bill back to this House on 5 July, and said that the committee recommended that it be passed without amendment. But then we have this SOP. This is a substantive amendment, and it is proposed in order to achieve a partial settlement of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga\u2019s claims in relation to Tauranga Moana. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga\u2019s settlement, along with other Tauranga iwi and what is known as TMIC, the Tauranga Moana Iwi Collective redress deed, was a package to comprehensively settle Treaty claims in the Tauranga region. The SOP is proposed because there are still unresolved overlapping claims issues with neighbouring iwi over the moana, and that has made it impossible for Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga to progress with all their claims settled relating to Tauranga Moana. So what this SOP does is it excludes claims relating only to Tauranga Moana. It is an exception to Treaty policy but it is one I am comfortable with because the settlement has been delayed by actions of other parties, particularly in the Waitangi Tribunal, and I am very eager to support Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga\u2019s aspiration to settle. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EPeople always ask me, \u201CWill this create a precedent?\u201D, but I am confident that it is unlikely that a precedent will be set, because this is a very complex, and I would go so far as to use that much overused word \u201Cunique\u201D, situation. Other iwi with harbour claims, such as T\u0101maki Collective iwi have agreed to settle their harbour claims as part of their comprehensive settlement, but the redress will be negotiated at a later date. My intention is to settle claims to Tauranga Moana, including those of other Tauranga Moana and Hauraki iwi, in a stand-alone Tauranga Moana framework bill, once the various disputes between the parties are resolved. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EAlso, there are a couple of minor points. The SOP also proposes the following: first, to amend the 5-year sunset clause for the transfer of the joint Te Tihi o Hauturu redress to the alternative approach to transfer this property on the settlement date of the last iwi to settle. This change is proposed in order to align this transfer with the approach agreed with Hauraki iwi to the joint vesting of cultural redress. Secondly, the SOP makes a technical amendment to one legal description and there are other consequential changes, including consequential changes following the enactment of the Land Transfer Act 2017.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022 data-id=\u0022c57660c379a64d28842f810687272bc7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c57660c379a64d28842f810687272bc7\u0022\u003EPEENI HENARE (Labour\u2014T\u0101maki Makaurau):\u003C/span\u003E \u0100, t\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Heamana o Te Whare, hoi an\u014D t\u0101ku i t\u0113nei w\u0101 e tuku mihi atu ana au ki Te Minita, m\u014D tana whakam\u0101rama mai i te nekehanga o t\u0113nei pepa t\u0101piri ki te pire, kei mua i te aroaro o Te Whare i te ata nei. Hoi an\u014D, ko t\u0101 m\u0101tou i t\u0113nei taha o Te Whare e mihi atu ana au, otir\u0101, m\u0101tou ki te t\u016B o Te Minita kia anga whakamua ai i ng\u0101 take a Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga ki roto i ng\u0101 take Tiriti, ki runga i Te Moana o Tauranga. Kua kite atu m\u0101tou ki roto i ng\u0101 wiki kua pahure ake nei, i ng\u0101 marama, i ng\u0101 tau kua pahure ake nei i te \u0101huatanga o ng\u0101 raruraru, ka p\u0101 ki ng\u0101 iwi ki ng\u0101 hap\u016B o taua w\u0101hi r\u0101, n\u014D reira, ka mihi atu ahau ki ng\u0101 panonitanga ki ng\u0101 k\u014Drero kua t\u012Bnihia e Te Minita. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKua t\u0101piri an\u014D hoki e Te Minita ki te pire kei mua i te aroaro o Te Whare, me te k\u012B atu ki Te Minita, t\u0101 te mea, kua k\u012B mai ia, \u0113hara t\u0113nei i te w\u0101 tuatahi, ar\u0101, he precedence, n\u0113, ka whakaaro ake ahau m\u014D te \u0101huatanga m\u014D ng\u0101 tat\u016Bnga ker\u0113me ki mua i te aroaro, kaua ko Tauranga Moana anake, engari, ka whakaaro ake m\u0101tou ko Kelvin Davis, ko Adrian Rurawhe, me ng\u0101 take e p\u0101 ana ki a Ng\u0101puhi, n\u0113, t\u0101 te mea, ka wh\u0101toro atu ng\u0101 ringaringa o Ng\u0101puhi ki roto o T\u0101maki-makau-rau? Hoi ano koinei t\u0101ku e mea atu ana, \u0101e, he w\u0101 tuatahi t\u0113nei m\u014D t\u0113nei t\u016B\u0101huatanga, \u0101, ka mihi atu ahau kua whaiwhakaaro Te Minita kia \u0101hua p\u0113nei te haere o te pire e p\u0101 ana ki a Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. Hoi an\u014D, ko t\u0101 m\u0101tau hei k\u014Drero m\u014D te tautoko i t\u0113nei t\u016B\u0101huatanga ki runga i te r\u012Bpoata o Te Hansard i te r\u0101 nei, k\u0101ti e Te Heamana t\u0113n\u0101 koe!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E[My appreciation to you, Mr Chairman, and accordingly I acknowledge the Minister for his explanation about the movement of this Supplementary Order Paper to the bill that is before the Committee this morning. Accordingly, we on this side of the Chamber acknowledge him and indeed the stance taken by the Minister to progress matters pertaining to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga with Treaty matters that are upon Tauranga. We have seen in weeks just gone by, and in the months and years just passed, the circumstance of the problems that have affected the tribes and subtribes of that place. Therefore I commend the changes to the comments made by the Minster. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThe Minister has also added to the bill that is before the Committee, and I say to the Minister at the same time, because he said to us, this not the first time; in other words, it is not a precedent, OK? I think about the circumstance relating to claim settlements in the future, not just one solely for Tauranga but we and Kelvin Davis and Adrian Rurawhe think about matters relating to Ng\u0101puhi, OK, because Ng\u0101puhi\u2019s hands reach out and right into Auckland. And so this indeed is why I have been saying, yes, this is a first time for this kind of thing, and I do commend the Minister\u2019s thoughtfulness that this bill relating to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga should go somewhat like this. And accordingly, we should be talking about supporting this kind of thing in the Hansard report on this day, and so enough, and thank you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022f0c7030d17f2473f82036dc2276f1d9f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f0c7030d17f2473f82036dc2276f1d9f\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E In English, I would like to endorse what my colleague Peeni Henare has said in acknowledging the Supplementary Order Paper that Minister Finlayson has spoken about and acknowledging the complexities of overlapping claims and interests. As Peeni did say, up north, where he and I both come from, as well as Adrian Rurawhe and Pita Paraone\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bbbdda66b97149f8b19c5851bacbd5bc\u0022\u003EPeeni Henare\u003C/span\u003E: And everyone else.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229f0ea07341ba4f7cbc3c88e7db98baf2\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014and everyone else, indeed\u2014we are going to have similar issues when Ng\u0101puhi settle, and, in terms of the precedent, I agree entirely with the sentiments of the Minister. So with that, we will not drag this part of the Committee stage out any further, other than just to say that we acknowledge what the Minister has said.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022 data-id=\u002289e8940854f94d83a13baaeceb34f74e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002289e8940854f94d83a13baaeceb34f74e\u0022\u003ERON MARK (Deputy Leader\u2014NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E It is a privilege and an honour to be able to stand here in the Chamber and to be able to endorse and support the passing of the Committee stage of the Rangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 (Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua) Claims\u2014[Interruption] Sorry?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002229e12c7097c3418a9ac6870e426e9571\u0022\u003EHon Members\u003C/span\u003E: It\u2019s Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002230c29695ce2d435a9a5d430eee67ff48\u0022\u003ERON MARK\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga\u2014you have moved on from there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022893adc11-ce4e-419c-a079-08f04b3d75f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e80fa47e92b247cdb01e0f6d1a48ec38\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Lindsay Tisch)\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, we are on the second bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022199b5fda767543ae842670ae301f2f80\u0022\u003ERON MARK\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I just wanted to do that anyway, mainly because all my whanaunga are up there in the gallery. I would just blend into that, then, the endorsement of comments that have already been made, because those same comments for this bill are reflected in the bill that, clearly, has just progressed before I walked in the door.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EThe issues that arise from those negotiations\u2014having been the lead negotiator in a Treaty settlement\u2014are very difficult and can be quite vexed. I would hope that for all the settlements that are progressing through the Committee today, and particularly those that relate to myself, those issues that stressed and troubled respective negotiations\u2014not just those overlapping with other iwi, but internally, within the hap\u016B, that took so long to be negotiated through\u2014are finally resolved and settled between them. From here, once the bill goes through its third reading and is passed and is enacted, I hope that all involved through those very difficult negotiations are then able to look at it with new eyes as an opportunity now to work together and work collaboratively for the betterment of all and to maximise the strength that the settlement brings to them all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the work that goes on behind, and I see Rick Barker sitting over there as a Crown negotiator, a former MP whom I worked very, very closely with. My experiences on the Rangit\u0101ne settlement, I have no doubt, will be the same experiences as for those who are negotiating on this settlement, as well. I just want to put on the record that I acknowledge that work, acknowledge the difficulty under which it was done, acknowledge the commitment of all those who were involved, including the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations and the Office of Treaty Settlements staff. I am looking forward to seeing these bills progress through the third reading and on to enactment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022 data-id=\u00227ef2fdaa46b440b2bc39da9458995971\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227ef2fdaa46b440b2bc39da9458995971\u0022\u003ECATHERINE DELAHUNTY (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora, Mr Chair, ng\u0101 mihi nui ki a koutou katoa. I would just like to take a brief call in support of the Minister\u2019s Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 354. I live in the Hauraki and have many friends in Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga ki Manaia, and I often think, when I stand on these bills, that fools rush in where angels fear to tread, as a P\u0101keh\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI can make no judgment about many of these issues, except to say that time is an important aspect of settlements, and Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga have waited a long time, as have many others. We are here in this House to try to do justice, and part of doing justice is to expedite the settlement so that the people can have at least some redress; it is never full, it is never final, from the Green Party point of view. But we want to support the SOP and recognise that there are other issues that need to be worked through and played out in the rohe of Tauranga Moana.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EWe are really here just to support what the people want, and that is not a simple thing. It is not simple for them, because of the history of this country and what has been done through colonisation, but we recognise that the Minister is always looking for creative solutions, and this is a way in which these people who have come so far today\u2014both literally and in terms of time\u2014want to see this go ahead, so we support them. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 354 in the name of the Hon Christopher Finlayson, and the following amendments in his name to clauses 13A and 106, be agreed to:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003Ein clause 13A(1)(a)(i), delete \u201CFramework\u201D; and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003Ein clause 106(1), replace \u201Cregister\u201D with \u201Crecord of title\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EAmendments agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EParts 1 to 3, schedules 1 to 4, and clauses 1 and 2 as amended agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EHouse resumed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThe Chairperson reported the Rangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 (Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua) Claims Settlement Bill with amendment and the Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga Claims Settlement Bill with amendment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EReport adopted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c219cf110db640d9908553ffc52d7b58\u0022\u003ERangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 (Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua) Claims Settlement Bill \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00223257c6b0f33241738e060a796f2d5080\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u0022977c7669743d4b95ba17609057329db4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022977c7669743d4b95ba17609057329db4\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Rangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 (Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua) Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time. E Te Mana Whakaw\u0101 o Te Whare t\u0113n\u0101 koe, e ng\u0101 hoa mema, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou Kurahaup\u014D waka me ng\u0101 uri o H\u0101mua r\u0101ua ko Rangiheuea, e karanga ana tonu te huia i roto i \u014D koutou ng\u0101kau maha, rau rangatira m\u0101, \u0101, t\u0113nei mihi atu ki a koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E[Thank you Mr Speaker, and salutations to you collectively fellow members. Acknowledgments to you the canoe of Kurahaup\u014D and the descendants of H\u0101mua, and of Rangiheuea, the call of the huia continuous to summon within the hearts of your vast number, esteemed ones of a hundredfold. So I pay a tribute to you collectively. Greetings, accolades, and congratulations to all of you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ECan I begin by extending a very warm welcome to the members of Rangit\u0101ne, who have travelled from Wairarapa and T\u0101maki nui-\u0101-Rua and from further afar to witness the third reading of this bill. This is a hugely significant day for Rangit\u0101ne and for the Crown, and I am pleased that we do not have to wait any longer to see the third reading of this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EToday is actually a very important day because we settle the Treaty grievances of the Wairarapa and T\u0101maki nui-\u0101-Rua, but I am conscious, having been Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations for almost 9 years, that during my period we have also settled the claims of Rangit\u0101ne in the Wairau and, of course, over the hill, Rangit\u0101ne in the Manawat\u016B. I have to say that over the years and throughout all these negotiations, I have encountered the same drive, determination, and principled approach to negotiations in all Rangit\u0101ne groups. Although, I have to say, the sense of humour exhibited by a certain person in Wairau is unique\u2014Richard Bradley\u2019s form of humour is not replicated across other parts of Rangit\u0101ne. You are all very, very worthy descendants of Wh\u0101tonga. Just before I came down here I was having a look at a book by Jock McEwen, the former Secretary of M\u0101ori and Island Affairs, who had a very special affection for Rangit\u0101ne and wrote that wonderful text in 1986 that tells the story of Rangit\u0101ne and its interactions with various iwi over the centuries.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ECan I acknowledge those who have suffered the grievances and those who obviously cannot be with us today but began this journey many years ago\u2014obviously, they are in our thoughts, as they are in the thoughts of all of us whenever we have a third reading. To those of you who have worked so hard to make today possible, I offer you my most sincere thanks. Throughout the negotiations, the negotiators for Rangit\u0101ne displayed great commitment, dedication, and high standards, and, I have to say, cut to the chase on the big issues very, very quickly. I want to acknowledge the lead negotiator, Jason Kerehi, the trust negotiation team\u2014Mavis Mullins, Richard Jones, T\u012Bpene Chrisp, and chair John Sproat for their very astute oversight of the settlement. I acknowledge all of you for your hard work and your commitment towards a lasting settlement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI also acknowledge, as I always do, the various Crown agencies and the regional and district councils for their work. I thank the district councils, who have been very helpful during the negotiations, and have actually made some of the redress possible.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe journey to settlement started in the 1980s, when M\u0101nahi Paewai lodged Wai 166, and Jim Rimene and others lodged the Wai 175 claim. Tribunal hearings were held in 2004 and 2005, and the Wairarapa ki Tararua report was released in June 2010. From this point on, Rangit\u0101ne adopted a pragmatic approach to negotiations. The mandate was recognised in October 2011, terms of negotiation were signed in August 2012, and an agreement in principle was signed a couple of years later. Throughout the negotiations, the iwi expressed their desire to reach a just and durable settlement swiftly, so that they could start growing their assets for the benefit of their people. We all know that Treaty negotiations take some time, but we are finally here today\u2014almost a year to the day since we signed the deed of settlement on that very wet Saturday morning, not far from Dannevirke.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ECan I now set out the key aspects of the past relationship between the Crown and Rangit\u0101ne\u2014as, obviously, I want this to be in the permanent record of the House. From the 1840s Rangit\u0101ne were among those who welcomed P\u0101keh\u0101 to the region and leased land to settlers. The Crown applied pressure on Wairarapa M\u0101ori to end the leases and instead sell their land to the Crown. When purchasing land, the Crown led the iwi to expect that substantial benefits would accrue. In the course of time, however, Rangit\u0101ne did not experience many of these benefits nor the prosperity that they had reasonably expected from settlement in their region. The Crown also failed to survey or protect from alienation a number of reserves that had been promised. It is such a familiar account, which repeats itself time and time again. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThroughout the 19th century the Crown continued to acquire areas of land. Communities resisted land sales and fought the breakdown of tribal structures through a number of initiatives, including parliaments and, indeed, also an appeal to the Privy Council, but to no avail. By 1910 only 10 percent of the traditional rohe remained in M\u0101ori land title, and by 1940 that figure had dropped to an appalling one: 3.5 percent. Throughout this process, Rangit\u0101ne lost many of its traditional food resources and taonga. The environment, particularly lakes and rivers, suffered degradation in favour of economic development. Being virtually landless by the 20th century, compounded with pressures of social deprivation, urbanisation, and assimilation\u2014these all had a dramatic impact on Rangit\u0101ne, particularly as Rangit\u0101ne communities struggled to maintain their homes, customary knowledge, and language. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe loss that has been suffered can never be fully compensated for by the Crown. Much of what was lost simply cannot be returned. However, the people of Rangit\u0101ne have graciously accepted the redress contained in the settlement and I acknowledge their generosity in doing so. I think this settlement will contribute to reviving their Rangit\u0101netanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EA very critical aspect of the settlement is the Crown apology. Through the settlement and apology, the Crown seeks to restore its honour and atone for its wrongs to Rangit\u0101ne o Wairarapa and Rangit\u0101ne o T\u0101maki-nui-\u0101-rua, by easing the burden of grievance that has been carried on for generations. This is of huge importance if we want to develop a new, Treaty-based relationship. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EAnother aspect of the redress is the vesting in Rangit\u0101ne of two reserves at P\u016Bkaha and their subsequent gift back to the Crown, or the people of New Zealand, and the overlay classification. This remains one of the last significant stands of native trees, from the great domain of Wh\u0101tonga, named by your tupuna as he was travelling up the Manawat\u016B River. The redress acknowledges the special relationship that you have with this area, and it symbolises the partnership that exists between the Crown and Rangit\u0101ne. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EYou have stressed the importance of a place to stand that you can call your own, and the settlement includes the vesting of eight sites of huge significance to Rangit\u0101ne. The other important point that I wish to stress is the issue of the lake. It is good to see Mr Mark in the House today, because he, as a former negotiator for Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, is acutely aware of the outline of the redress there. The bed of Lake Wairarapa will jointly be held with Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu ki Te Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIt is very good day for Rangit\u0101ne, and I very much look forward, as I am sure Mr Mark does, to that day in the very, very near future\u2014hopefully by the end of the year\u2014when the deed of settlement can be signed with Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, and then it will be a new dawn for both these great iwi in the Wairarapa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EToday is about acknowledging the past and looking forward to the future. Everyone can be, I think, very pleased with what has happened. It has been a long journey but a worthwhile journey. I thank the negotiators, once again. I thank Mr Barker, who has been the chief Crown negotiator\u2014a very good fellow and a very hard worker. I commend the bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022 data-id=\u00225f27d2c5683043ad916d129b541bdc87\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225f27d2c5683043ad916d129b541bdc87\u0022\u003EMEKA WHAITIRI (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti):\u003C/span\u003E E Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, otir\u0101, e ng\u0101 mema o Te Whare nei, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. It is a great day today. It is a great day, not because Labour has gone up 10 percent in the polls or because the leader is now neck and neck with the Prime Minister, but because we are here, honouring the passing of the Rangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 (Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua) Claims Settlement Bill. I am very honoured to lead Labour\u2019s part in supporting this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E\u201CTini whet\u016B ki te rangi, ko Rangit\u0101ne ki te whenua\u201D. Ko Kurahaup\u014D te waka, ko ng\u0101 uri whakaeke o Wh\u0101tonga, n\u014D reira, \u014Dku rau rangatira m\u0101, e kui m\u0101, e koro m\u0101, nau mai, hara mai, nau mai, hara mai, nau mai, hara mai. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E[\u201CLike the multitude of the stars in the sky, so is Rangit\u0101ne on the earth.\u201D The canoe is Kurahaup\u014D, the descendants are of Wh\u0101tonga, so to my esteemed ones and others of a hundredfold, the elderly women and menfolk, welcome and come hither, welcome and come hither, welcome and come hither.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EIt is indeed a privilege\u2014as all Treaty bills in this House are, particularly at the third reading\u2014to stand and honour what has transpired here today. No better do I want to place on the record than the history of Rangit\u0101ne. Rangit\u0101ne\u2019s story begins with the arrival of the Kurahaup\u014D waka. One of the principal chiefs aboard this waka was Wh\u0101tonga. His descendants eventually migrated south from M\u0101hia Peninsula, to settle much of the lower North Island and the top of the South Island. The tribes associated with this waka included Rongomaiwahine, Te \u0100ti Haunui-a-P\u0101p\u0101rangi, Rangit\u0101ne o Manawatu, Ng\u0101ti Apa, Mua\u016Bpoko, Ng\u0101i Tara, Ng\u0101ti Kuia, and Ng\u0101ti T\u016B Mata K\u014Dkiri. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EWh\u0101tonga moved to what we know as the Hawke\u2019s Bay area and built a p\u0101, which he named Heretaunga. This later became the name adopted for the larger Hawke\u2019s Bay area. Oral tradition speaks of Wh\u0101tonga embarking on a journey of discovery, after displeasing his wife Hotuwaipara. She had cut her hand on a nohu, a rock cod, that he had caught on a fishing venture. This incident led to their first son being named, in remembrance of the event, Tara-ika, meaning fish spine. Wh\u0101tonga\u2019s journey brought him to the Wairarapa for the first time. He settled for some time at Rangiwhakaoma, Castlepoint, where he built a p\u0101, called M\u0101tiri\u0113 or M\u0101tira, which was situated where the current lighthouse stands.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EFrom here he journeyed down to Whanganui-a-Tara, up past K\u0101piti Island, and Horowhenua, before moving inland, up the Manawat\u016B River, and Te \u0100piti, Manawat\u016B Gorge. It was at this point that he first laid eyes upon a vast virgin forest that stretched beyond his view, filled with giant native trees. It was of such splendour that he gave it his own name, Te T\u0101pere Nui \u014D Wh\u0101tonga, or the Great Domain of Whatonga. It is from this once great forest that P\u016Bkaha / Mount Bruce, remains as one of the last significant stands of native bush.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EWh\u0101tonga had two sons to two separate wives and it was the descendants of these two half-brothers that eventually spread to occupy the lower North Island, or Te Upoko o Te Ika a M\u0101ui. The first-born son was Tara-ika, known more commonly as Tara. Tara gave rise to the tribe known as Ng\u0101i Tara that lived for many centuries in the Wellington and West Coast areas. Tara gave his name to the Wellington Harbour, which is known as Te Whanganui-a-Tara or Great Bay of Tara. His name is also commemorated in the Tararua mountains that divide the Wellington region, and is taken from the saying \u201CNg\u0101 waewae e rua \u0101 Tara\u201D, or \u201CThe spanned legs of Tara\u201D, meaning that his people had a foothold on either side of these ranges.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EThe second son of Wh\u0101tonga was Tautoki, born to Reretua. Tautoki gave birth to a son called T\u0101nenui\u0101rangi, otherwise known as Rangit\u0101ne. Rangit\u0101ne had two wives. His first wife Mahue bore a son called K\u014Dp\u016Bparapara, and it is from this ancestor that H\u0101mua is derived. Four generations after Rangit\u0101ne came H\u0101mua. H\u0101mua became the eponymous ancestor or originator of the Ng\u0101ti H\u0101mua hap\u016B, which was and remains the paramount hap\u016B of Rangitane-o-Wairarapa. Ng\u0101ti H\u0101mua has survived through to today with other Rangit\u0101ne hap\u016B to remain the tangata whenua o Wairarapa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EOf course, Rangit\u0101ne is not the only iwi to lay claim to the Wairarapa. Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu shares the role of tangata whenua in the Wairarapa. Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu hap\u016B trace their lineage back to the T\u0101kitimu waka that also arrived at Te M\u0101hia some time after the Kurahaup\u014D waka. Over time these people moved into the Wairarapa area, from Heretaunga, and integrated with the Rangit\u0101ne hap\u016B. Today many of the M\u0101ori people living in the Wairarapa T\u0101maki nui-\u0101-Rua area can trace their whakapapa or lineage back to both these tribes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI have stolen that introduction from the website of Rangit\u0101ne ki Wairarapa, so ng\u0101 mihi ki a koutou. I read it to inform and share in the House the connection between Rangit\u0101ne and Kahungunu. I want to share a story of my grandmother. Some of our people in the audience will know an auntie of mine, Kahu Pene. Many years ago, before my auntie passed, she was going to another one of these many hui that we have back home, between Rangit\u0101ne and Kahungunu. So she picked up my grandmother, Ruru Heta Robin, thinking that she had my nan\u2019s votes when it came to voting for Kahungunu. To her dismay, at the hui my auntie told me that when it came to voting, my grandmother voted for Rangit\u0101ne. She voted for Rangit\u0101ne. That, to me, was a reminder of the kohutanga that we have between Kahungunu and Rangit\u0101ne. To my kinsmen and kinspeople and our iwi who are in the audience today, I mihi to you all for being here and witnessing this historic moment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI will not transcend what the Minister ably talked about, in terms of the package. All I wanted to raise, as I did in the second reading\u2014I notice the Minister did ask me to stand during the Committee stage\u2014was the report that came back from the select committee. That talked about the shared redress and whether that has been taken care of. I leave that there, not to disrupt the day but just to acknowledge that there was a report that came back from the select committee that mentioned that. I did not believe that it needed to be changed within the bill, but it was definitely a question, still left unanswered, about the crossover shared parts between Rangit\u0101ne and their neighbouring iwi. Maybe the chairman or members on the opposite side can shed some light on that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EIn the closing moment it is important to acknowledge absolutely the hard work, first and foremost, of the iwi\u2014for your perseverance in keeping faith with this process. Being reduced from 100 percent landownership to 3 percent is unbelievable. Time and time again we hear the same stories in this House, that iwi, in good faith, entered into agreements with our early settlers and the promise for return, and at the end of the day we are left landless\u2014we are left landless. Three percent is all that was left.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the iwi for their patience\u2014for the original claimants Jim Rimene, Manahi Paewai. I want to acknowledge the negotiators Jason Kerehi, Mavis Mullins, Richard Jones, T\u012Bpene Chrisp, and of course I want to acknowledge the Hon Rick Barker, the Crown negotiator here, the officials, the Minister, and of course the hard work of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and the many submitters who submitted throughout this process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EIt is time for Rangit\u0101ne\u2014a period of reconciliation for yourselves between the Crown and iwi, hopefully with iwi to iwi, some reconciliation. It is time to reset and it is definitely a time to regain the mana that we have paid over these years and years as Rangit\u0101ne people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, e Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare t\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou, otir\u0101, ng\u0101 iwi, ng\u0101 whanaungatanga, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E[Therefore, Mr Assistant Speaker, I acknowledge you collectively, but, at the same time, accolades and well done to you collectively, and to all of us.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022 data-id=\u002212cb7efa02bf4016a990f8eec78a85ba\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002212cb7efa02bf4016a990f8eec78a85ba\u0022\u003ENUK KORAKO (National):\u003C/span\u003E \u0100, t\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101, t\u0113nei te mihi ki te waka o Kurahaup\u014D, ki ng\u0101 uri o Wh\u0101tonga, n\u014D reira, mauria mai \u014D whakaako ki te kaupapa e huihui t\u0101kata, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, e mihi atu ana ki a koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. I greet the Kurahaup\u014D canoe and the descendants of Wh\u0101tonga. Therefore bring forth your learnings to the policy that people come together for. Congratulations and well done. I acknowledge you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI take great honour and pride in being part of the third reading of the Rangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 (Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua) Claims Settlement Bill. It is always a momentous occasion in this House when we can tautoko our Treaty settlement through its final stage and launch an iwi into the next stage of their history and of their development.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EBut before I talk about the future, I want to reflect on the past. The future is important. We see here today the rangatahi of Rangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101. Over 200 of you have come here for this momentous occasion. But the future is what the money, the commercial redress, is about. It is important to the people, as I said, especially the rangatahi of Rangit\u0101ne, in that there is an economic base provided here for the iwi to deliver better opportunities for its people in the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EBut I think what is more important here\u2014and I remember the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations reflecting on this in his first reading speech. The Minister said: \u201CThe thing that is most meaningful to iwi is the acknowledgment of their history through the cultural redress in their settlements.\u201D I know this from my own experiences in Kai Tahu. Kai Tahu have done great things with their financial settlement, and I have been proud to be part of that important work that is happening at home. But when we received our settlement, the first thing on our minds was the acknowledgment, first of all, of our history\u2014the cultural redress that gave us back some of our connection to our lands and our taoka in the heartfelt apology that was delivered by the Crown.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ERangit\u0101ne were one of the iwi that actively welcomed P\u0101keh\u0101 to their rohe. They adapted quickly to the European style of commerce and benefited from leasing land and trading with the settlers. But, as in so many other areas of the country, the Crown put a stop to this mutually beneficial relationship and insisted that Rangit\u0101ne could sell their land only to the Crown. Through the various means of applying pressure and defrauding Rangit\u0101ne, the Crown acquired huge swathes of land and broke the promises it had made to Rangit\u0101ne to provide them with substantial reserves and social benefits like better health and education. Rangit\u0101ne had land the Crown wanted, and trading with the Crown and with settlers should have given them great prosperity. Instead, they were left landless with none of the resources that would have allowed them to build the prosperity for themselves.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EThis is a very brief summary of Rangit\u0101ne\u2019s history with the Crown. There is much more that happened, but, in a nutshell, it is a familiar story of an iwi that wanted to engage positively with the P\u0101keh\u0101 settlers, and a Crown that took advantage and gave Rangit\u0101ne reason to regret ever welcoming P\u0101keh\u0101 to their rohe. That is the history the Crown has now apologised for.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ERangit\u0101ne now looks to a future in which they can be full and welcome participants in a society that treated them originally as second-class citizens for so long, a future in which Rangit\u0101ne have the economic base to establish themselves as full participants in their local economy and in the wider M\u0101ori economy as well, and a future in which their people can expect greater opportunities to get ahead.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge all of those from Rangit\u0101ne who are here today, and I acknowledge those iwi members who will be watching this debate far from this House. As MPs, most of us only really get to be involved in the Treaty settlement process here in Parliament as we carry out the formalities of giving legal effect to the settlements that have been negotiated by others. In saying that, it has often reflected many years of heartache, and I know this particular settlement has\u2014the many years of heartache of fighting for justice and of hard work on the part of many who have passed on into the long night and many who are here today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI acknowledge Rangit\u0101ne\u2019s forebears who have worked to bring it to this point. I acknowledge the negotiators, the ones whom I actually, as the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, had direct engagement with. Rangatira like T\u012Bpene Chrisp, Mavis Mullins, Jason Kerehi, and T\u012Bpene\u2014if I could say\u2014that after working on behalf of the Government, on behalf the Crown, on so many other Treaty settlements, it must be a proud moment for you to now be seeing this one be passed to the benefit of your own people. N\u014D reira, e mihi atu ki a koe. I also acknowledge the Hon Rick Barker, who negotiated on behalf the Crown for this settlement. T\u0113nei te mihi ki a koe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ETo Rangit\u0101ne I say that today marks the end of one journey but the start of another. You have shown great generosity by accepting a settlement that is symbolic and that provides you with greater opportunities but that cannot and does not compensate you for the losses you suffered due to the past Crown actions. Your leaders now have the huge responsibility of making sure this settlement benefits your people, and they will\u2014and they will.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EWith that, today here marks the final reading before the Royal assent when this becomes law\u2014and it is at that point that the iwi can then move on and be very much involved in their development for those future people: those rangatahi whom we see here and those future generations. In all of that, it comes back down to one thing, though: again, just to reiterate, it is not about the money; it is actually about the apology. It is actually about the historical account of what happened, and then from there it gives the opportunity to move forward. E Te Mana Whakaw\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Huri noa i Te Whare e mihi atu ki a koutou katoa, and I do indeed commend this bill to the House. Kia ora t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022186ba79ef20349789009028769e9d9c0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022186ba79ef20349789009028769e9d9c0\u0022\u003EADRIAN RURAWHE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Hau\u0101uru):\u003C/span\u003E \u0100, t\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te M\u0101ngai o Te \u2019hare, otir\u0101, e tika ana kia tuku mihi atu ki a koutou katoa, ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau, ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Rangit\u0101ne o Wairarapa, o Rangit\u0101ne wh\u0101nui an\u014D hoki, o Rangit\u0101ne o T\u0101maki-nui-\u0101-Rua, anei ahau e tuku mihi atu ki a koutou katoa, nau mai, haere mai, whakatau mai! \u0100, otinoa, e tika \u2019oki kia tuku mihi atu ki a koe e Te Heamana o Te Komiti Whiriwhiri Take M\u0101ori, i tuku atu i Te Reo \u2019hakamoemiti i t\u0113nei ata, \u0101, m\u0101ku e tautoko taua whakamoemiti, otir\u0101, ng\u0101 mi\u2019i katoa i roto i Te Whare nei, \u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker, but, at the same time, it is fitting that I greet you all, the families and subtribes that belong to Rangit\u0101ne of Wairarapa and broadly as well, and of Dannevirke. Here I am, welcoming you all. Come hither, come forth, pay homage. Accordingly, it is right as well that I acknowledge you, the chairman of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, who expressed words of praises this morning. I will endorse that expression of thanks but, at the same time, all those expressed in this House. Greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EIt is a real privilege to stand and speak to the third and final reading of this settlement bill. It is always great to come to the House and talk on settlement bills, because of what they represent. It has been a long and arduous journey to get to this day, and I want to acknowledge that. I too, as I did in my second reading speech, want to acknowledge all of the kuia, koroua, matua, and the young people, the rangatahi, who are here today to witness this special occasion\u2014and in particular the young people, who inherit not a burden of carrying the breaches of the Treaty of Waitangi today but, from today on, now carry the legacy of the hard work of their t\u016Bpuna. I want to acknowledge you all because settling this bill today, and these claims, is all about the future, as other colleagues in the House have said. It is a particularly special day for the young people, and I am sure it is a day that you will all remember.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI want to also mention taku kuia, Te Haerenganoa, \u201CNanny Noa\u201D, who is amongst you all today\u2014t\u0113nei te mihi atu ki a koe e te kuia. I want to mention her because she was here 82 years ago on a very special day, so she has returned here to see the passage of this bill. She was at the meeting between Michael Joseph Savage and Tahup\u014Dtiki W\u012Bremu R\u0101tana. That was a special day as well, and I hope that the legacy she has carried for the last 82 years is exactly the same as what you all carry for the future generations as well, so that the stories you tell your future generations are the same ones that she has told me and my generation. So mihi ana ki a koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EThis is indeed a very special settlement, as all settlements are, and I want to in particular acknowledge the leaders of Rangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 to the post-settlement governance entity, who will have the honour and privilege of taking this settlement forward. I want to acknowledge the chair of the settlement entity, Mavis Mullins\u2014t\u0113nei ahau tuku mihi atu ki a koe\u2014and also acknowledge that she is only the second M\u0101ori woman to be nominated and placed in the New Zealand Business Hall of Fame. I think that needs to be acknowledged. I also think that with that calibre of people on that entity, the settlement and the settlement assets are in safe hands, and I am certain that that asset will grow so that the legacy that will be carried by the future generations will indeed be a very strong one.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI want to also acknowledge the wide range of cultural reconnection mechanisms within this Treaty settlement. I am bound to talk about the responsibility that the iwi will carry in terms of the rivers that are very important to Rangit\u0101ne, and the important part that Rangit\u0101ne representatives will play in ensuring that their voice is heard when it comes to matters pertaining to the Manawat\u016B River and other important cultural redress items within this settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EOne other thing that I want to endorse and to support was the sentiments expressed by the Minister about the apology. I think it is a very important aspect of every settlement that comes through the House. I think it is incumbent upon all future Governments to ensure that the apology is real and that we make certain that Rangit\u0101ne have the opportunity not only to be consulted on important things that come through this House but the opportunity for their voice to be heard in this House. I want to lay down my commitment to make sure that we do that and that we do that with rigour.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI guess that is part of the legacy that will be carried forward by future generations\u2014that it will be part of that legacy that they will have to uphold to make certain that this House, that this Parliament, makes certain that that apology is real by never ever breaching the Treaty again because, without that, that apology is diminished.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira e tino tautoko ana ahau i ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga katoa kei roto i te pire nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[Therefore I truly endorse all aspects that are in this.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI think that all of the aspects of the settlement are important and probably ought to be equally important to all citizens of New Zealand because, as I have said before in this House, I want to thank Rangit\u0101ne for their generosity in accepting this settlement, because, as we all know, this settlement\u2014like every other settlement\u2014is redress, not compensation. So that generosity needs to be acknowledged\u2014that Rangit\u0101ne have accepted this package of redress mechanisms, to move forward into the future, despite the fact that the actual financial burden that has been carried by the iwi is not really reflected in the amount that has been paid out through this settlement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003ESo I want to thank you all your generosity, and I wish you all the best for the future so that that legacy will be carried by the future generation and they can stand tall and strong for their future generations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira koin\u0101 taku k\u014Drero atu ki Te Whare nei i t\u0113nei r\u0101 e p\u0101 ana ki t\u0113nei pire, n\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[So that indeed is my contribution today to this House, on this day, about this bill. Therefore, greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022 data-id=\u002288d3be41ccdd412cb14112c68eea24aa\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002288d3be41ccdd412cb14112c68eea24aa\u0022\u003EJOANNE HAYES (National):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora, Mr Assistant Speaker. E koro m\u0101, e kui m\u0101, e rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E ng\u0101 m\u0101tua, e ng\u0101 mokopuna hoki, ka nui te mihi atu ki a koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. To the elderly men and womenfolk and to esteemed ones and others of a hundredfold, acknowledgments to you collectively. To the parents and grandchildren also, a huge appreciation to you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI stand here proud as punch today for my wh\u0101nau of Wairarapa and Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua. I stand here proud as punch because today we finally get to the third reading of the Rangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 (Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua) Claims Settlement Bill. As many of my colleagues in the House have expressed today, it is the beginning of an amazing future for my wh\u0101nau in Wairarapa and Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EIt is an emotional day, because I have waited for a wee while for this day to come, and to sit there with my mum in the gallery, and her kuia, Hinerau, as well. She is the last kuia for Wairarapa to witness this day, because so many of my aunts and uncles who were part and parcel of getting this bill to where it is today have gone on, passed over, and I am sure their wairua sits in this House and watches the proceedings as we move forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge Jason Kerehi. I am sure that it has not been a very easy task for you, Jason, to be able to hear and listen to the wh\u0101nau as they all started to contribute to the things that you needed to talk to the Crown about for redress for Rangit\u0101ne o Wairarapa. I want to also acknowledge Rick Barker, as the Crown negotiator, and I am sure, Rick, at many times many people tried to talk to you about some of the things that they wanted in the bill. I am sure of that. I got plenty of phone calls myself to have a talk to you about a few things in this bill and so I just want to say well done. Well done to both of you for getting the bill this far.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI want to add my acknowledgments to Mavis and to the rest of the board members and the committee members. I am proud of you, Mavis. You have done our iwi and M\u0101ori women proud in every aspect of the work that you do in representing us and the iwi. I want to acknowledge T\u012Bpene Chrisp and John and Richard for the work that they do on the committee. I also want to acknowledge our Mikaere K\u0101wana who was, I think, very influential in the actual waiata of T\u016B Mai R\u0101 and the waiata that comes with this bill. Mikaere is a very talented composer of waiata for Wairarapa and I am very proud to have him as part of our family, married to my cousin \u0112rena.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EAs I said, I am very proud to stand here. I am humbled, because my wh\u0101nau in the Wairarapa are the Karaitianas and the R\u012Bmenes and the many others, but it is through the Karaitiana wh\u0101nau that I come into Wairarapa, through my mum. I want to also acknowledge my long-time friend, who\u2014we have walked through many, many journeys, her and I, and I remember when the first negotiation meeting started: with the iwi, she rang me up and she said: \u201CAre you coming to the meetings to do with our bill?\u201D. And I said to her \u201CWhere is it and when is it?\u201D and \u201CI don\u2019t know whether I can.\u201D That woman is sitting in the House. She has been in here for all of the readings and her name is Oriana Paewai and she sits up there in the gallery, and I want to acknowledge you, Oriana. She has been the one who has been keeping me up to date when I was not home to be part and parcel of wh\u0101nau negotiations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI want to say to Rangit\u0101ne Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua\u2014the generosity of being able to gift P\u016Bkaha / Mount Bruce back to the people of New Zealand. It is a beautiful reserve and I am sure that in times to come many other New Zealanders and tourists will come to understand the beautiful gift that you have given back to this country and to the world.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003ESo my k\u014Drero is not going to go on much longer because I am very emotional about today because it is a special day for everybody in the House, and especially for the mokopuna sitting up there in the gallery. This is your future. This is something that you can have input into how you want your lives to reflect, through this bill and through all of the things that are coming back to Rangit\u0101ne. And I hope that you take it and you grab it with both hands and you help to set the future for you and yours because that is what our elders up here have done. They have come so far, and now you, mokopuna\u2014it is now your turn to step up and help to shape the future of Rangit\u0101ne o Wairarapa and Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua. So without any further ado, I commend this bill to the House. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022 data-id=\u0022690bcf64bcd04a6a9604db4b449c2b32\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022690bcf64bcd04a6a9604db4b449c2b32\u0022\u003ECATHERINE DELAHUNTY (Green):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Assistant Speaker. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou e Te Whare. He mihi nui ki a Ng\u0101ti Rangit\u0101ne ki Wairarapa me T\u0101maki nui-\u0101-Rua, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Nau mai, hara mai, ki Te Whare P\u0101remata, ng\u0101 kuia, ng\u0101 koroua, ng\u0101 whaea, ng\u0101 m\u0101tua, ng\u0101 rangatahi, me ng\u0101 tamariki, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker, and to you, collectively, the House. A huge acknowledgment to you, Rangit\u0101ne of Wairarapa and of Dannevirke; accolades to you collectively. Welcome, come hither to Parliament, the elderly and menfolk, the mothers, the fathers, the young people and the children. Greetings to you collectively.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EIt is very humbling to stand here before you today and speak briefly on your claim, which I had not had the privilege of working on, but we are privileged to support it. Te R\u014Dp\u016B K\u0101k\u0101riki\u2014the Green Party\u2014would like to acknowledge your struggle, your effort, and your achievement in reaching this day. A third reading is always a moment in the history of this country, a moment of power, and a moment of challenge, and we really, really believe that every generation under Te Tiriti o Waitangi has a right to raise issues and a right to work on these issues. We do not believe in \u201Cfull and final\u201D; we actually believe in the ongoing relationship laid down by that covenant, so that your rangatahi and tamariki can keep upholding the aspirations of your people through Te Tiriti and so that we on the Crown\u2019s side, or taha P\u0101keh\u0101 katoa, tauiwi katoa [the totally European, colonists\u2019 side] have a permanent responsibility to listen to you, to whakarongo\u2014always. Not settled; honoured. Honoured; not settled. This is a settlement and it is a valuable thing, but it is our honour that is the most valuable, and we need to honour Te Tiriti and honour your rights to continue to challenge us to make justice a lived reality throughout the entire history of our time and our future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EReturning to this bill, I just want to acknowledge that wealth is a curse. Natural resources\u2014the wonderful natural resources of your t\u016Bpuna, in a sense, attracted the worst fate for you, because those beautiful awa in the Wairarapa and those beautiful, magnificent ngahere are only like a story or a dream. The abundance that was yours to feed your people and to live in those relationships\u2014the rivers are still there, but I work on rivers and I know the state of your rivers. I know what is being done and what comes down and what the consequence is of stripping the land of its trees\u2014the domain of T\u0101ne, the domain of wealth, of rongo\u0101, of kai, and of whakapapa. All of those things that have been taken away are interrelated in terms of the land and the water and the people of the land. So, the uri of Wh\u0101tonga, I commend you for your endurance\u2014for your remarkable endurance. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EWhen it comes to redress\u2014it is an interesting word, \u201Credress\u201D\u2014I acknowledge that the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee said it is not about the money, and I understand exactly what he means. But, you know, it is funny when the Crown says that, because, actually, if you do not have any money, it is about the money, and that is part of it. It is not the whole, and it is not the spirit of the day, but it is part of it because, actually, in the history it was all about making money. It was all about taking for financial profit, for the aspirations of a culture that came to colonise. It was about the money, all right. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003ESo I think it behoves us now to acknowledge that it is always going to be about spiritual and cultural acknowledgment, but also it is about negotiating what is fair. Redress\u2014as Minister Finlayson often, quite rightly, says\u2014is never fair and is never complete, and neither is this. It is a good gesture, but I am always uncomfortable to say that it is not about resources, because truth and reconciliation are about truth and reconciliation based on the return of resources. That is where true justice and peace in this country will come from\u2014when we have actually returned resources. Each settlement does its bit and this one is a triumph for you, but there is still more conversation to be had and more commitment. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThe Green Party recently said that we would review Te Tiriti in terms of the settlement process, in terms of looking at issues of \u201Cfull and final\u201D and looking at acknowledging the issues that come with large natural groupings. So this is not a political speech\u2014this is your day\u2014but because we acknowledge the complexity of what you have had to deal with, and what all the hap\u016B katoa have had to deal with, we acknowledge those things. We acknowledge them as being important and not being easily settled. We need to learn in this country how to honour those things, rather than divide the people and force them into dividing each other. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003ESo we would just like to acknowledge the importance of many aspects of this settlement. The apology is very important, because there is no healing without a genuine apology. An apology, when it is accepted, forms a base for a new relationship. If someone apologises without their whole heart and it is not accepted by others, then it is meaningless. If someone apologies wholeheartedly and the people are able to accept it, then that is a new platform for a new beginning. But, like I said, we need the apology, acknowledgment, cultural redress, and resources, because we are beings who need to live in a world where we can live. My beloved colleague Metiria Turei\u2014from Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa, in your rohe as well\u2014knows better than anyone that it is all about looking after our people and standing up for our people. It is all about those issues. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003ESo I wish the Wairarapa people, all of you, the very best for this. We need to clean up the water, we need to restore the forests, and we need to restore the people\u2019s right to live not in poverty and struggle but in dignity and rangatiratanga. Article 2 is always before us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThe issue around P\u016Bkaha is great because that is such an amazing resource for this country. I just want to acknowledge your generosity because, like in many settlements, these icons and taonga of our country are returned to you, and then you give them straight back. You know, I do not know whether I would do that. I think it is extreme generosity. I would love to actually see us be given something that we have to give straight back in my culture. Bring it on\u2014let us learn how to give it back. I think that would be a good thing for us spiritually and culturally, as well as in every other way, because, again and again, the people, the tangata whenua are always being asked to do this and they do it out of generosity, as it has always been throughout the entire history of your relationship. The Rangit\u0101ne relationship with the Crown has been generosity on one side. So let us all practise real generosity and acknowledge that this is your whenua, your awa, your ngahere, your moana, and that we are lucky to live within your generosity, graciousness, and your knowledge\u2014intimate knowledge\u2014of these resources. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI would just like to acknowledge Lake Wairarapa. At the bottom of the catchment, this beautiful body\u2014this living being\u2014everything flows down from the top to the bottom and ends up there. In that place all of the history of the last hundred or so years\u2014150 years\u2014is manifest, and all the work that needs to be done is symbolised by that. There is no magic place called away. There is no escape either from our colonial history or from our abuse of the land. It is all manifest. The water is talking to us all the time about what we are doing to the land. The people are talking to us about what we have done to them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EIt is a great day, but, for the Green Party, it is a day when we say there is still time to listen, more to be said, and more to negotiate. Congratulations. We honour you as we try to honour Te Tiriti. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022 data-id=\u0022b65115b581534e11a46da0ecec99fddd\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b65115b581534e11a46da0ecec99fddd\u0022\u003ERON MARK (Deputy Leader\u2014NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E This is a bit of a privilege. Normally, Pita Paraone speaks on Treaty settlement bills on behalf of New Zealand First, but this one is a bit of an exception for me, because the Rangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 (Wairarapa Tamaki nui-\u0101-Rua) Claims Settlement Bill is a bill that I got involved in from the side as a lead negotiator for Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa T\u0101maki Nui-\u0101-Rua. I will not take that long with my k\u014Drero, I think, but I do need to say firstly, to my whanaunga from Rangit\u0101ne, to all the people up there in the gallery\u2014Mavis and T\u012Bpene, and I know Jason is there, and please forgive me if I do not mention you all. These are the people with whom, sadly, we were on occasion locked in negotiation in accordance with the Crown\u2019s stipulated processes to settle cross-claims and shared-interest claims. I have to say that it is one of those processes that generated conflict between ourselves, which was hard to bear on occasion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EPeople from the Wairarapa who are Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu are, almost without exception, I think, also Rangit\u0101ne. People within the Wairarapa who are Rangit\u0101ne are also, without exception, I think, Kahungunu. But the reality is that that was not always the case. Without going back through the history, which is clearly stipulated and laid out here in the settlement, over time we became blended, but for one reason or another, some of us take our Kahungunu ancestry forward first, and others take the Rangit\u0101ne ancestry forward first.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EThe Treaty settlement claim process of the Treaty grievances that arose drove a wedge between families, individuals, hap\u016B, and marae, and between our iwi. This is a very difficult process to go through, but the Crown\u2019s processes are stipulated, and if you want to get a settlement, you must follow that process. Some parts of that process are difficult. Shared interests generate controversy, argument, and debate as to who is right and who is wrong in their recounting of historical events and of whakapapa. Just the question over marae\u2014the question over who has ascendancy and who has the greatest claim or mandate or mana on particular marae\u2014was always going to generate some very difficult conversations, and, regretfully, there are times when people in that negotiating process say things that they subsequently regret. But that is the nature of Treaty settlements and the process that we are all put into.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EThe questions around P\u016Bkaha, H\u0101mua, and Wairarapa Moana caused us days, weeks, and months of debate as we moved from marae to marae through the Treaty settlement process. I guess one would look at this settlement, which we support and endorse\u2014I hope that we will look, in time, at the Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa T\u0101maki Nui-\u0101-Rua settlement when we do that third reading, as well, and I would hope that we will by then have put all the pain, all the hurt, and all that raruraru off to one side and will be looking at the future and at opportunities that will then be open to us as a people: Kahungunu o Rangit\u0101ne.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EI was always impressed by the demeanour of Mavis Mullins and Jason Kerehi, and I recognise and acknowledge the pain and the difficulty that was carried forward by M\u0101nahi and T\u012Bpene through those very difficult and trying negotiations. The fact of the matter is that we arrived at a point. The fact of the matter is that Rangit\u0101ne arrived at a point, and actually arrived there ahead of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, and I congratulate you on that. I congratulate you on your tenacity, on your courage, and on the way in which you remain true to those who lodged these claims and started the whole process going forward and who are no longer here today to see this debate and to see this moment in Rangit\u0101ne history and time come to fruition.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EThere is this third reading and then we await the Governor-General\u2019s signature, and that will be this done. But it will not be done in terms of Rangit\u0101ne and how it goes forward. It will not be done in terms of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu in the Wairarapa and how we go forward. It will be the start.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EI am pondering\u2014and I know I have had this conversation with some of you recently\u2014and I wonder how we will look at the collective strength of Rangit\u0101ne and Kahungunu working together in the Wairarapa. I wonder what that might do for all of our mokopuna.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EWhen we, once again, put all of this behind us and look collectively and strategically at the economic strength, I think that after these two settlements, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu and Rangit\u0101ne will probably be, economically, the strongest force in the Wairarapa, next to Trust House. Mind you, Trust House got a nice sweetheart deal, and that was done in a much shorter time than this process. Trust House was given, what, 230-odd houses in a sweetheart deal, at $20,000 a house, by the National Government of the day. Wyatt Creech was the MP for the Wairarapa and the Deputy Prime Minister, and one of the things I will never forget was that in the negotiation process, when Rangit\u0101ne was looking at assets that might come back, the one thing that was not on the table for them was the opportunity to take houses, because they had gone\u2014all of them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EI acknowledge the difficulty of Rangit\u0101ne in trying to work a way through not just the cultural settlement, which is a minefield\u2014particularly in the shared interest part of the negotiation\u2014but on the commercial side, when you were looking at what the Crown had that could actually be part of this settlement, and it was not a lot, was it? So I look forward to seeing a time when Rangit\u0101ne and Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu collectively, together, work strategically for the betterment of all of our people in the Wairarapa and for all of our people who no longer reside in the Wairarapa but who are dotted all over the country and all over the world.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EI just want to conclude by saying that the work that was started by those who are no longer here and by some who are here, the work that was taken up by the negotiators\u2014those who have subsequently joined the post-settlement governance entity, Rangit\u0101ne T\u016B Mai R\u0101 Trust, and those who are going to be employed working on managing those assets, are all to be congratulated. But might I also suggest that they are going to be in need of your support, your love, and your reinforcement, because now the responsibility that has been placed before them is great. They will need your strength if they are to advance the people of Rangit\u0101ne, so that they might achieve those things that our forebears and ancestors aspired to and wished to be achieved on their behalf. Congratulations, whanaunga, this is a great day for you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022 data-id=\u00224cdb9882c9e045f59b0db33259e91fb3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224cdb9882c9e045f59b0db33259e91fb3\u0022\u003EMARAMA FOX (Co-Leader\u2014M\u0101ori Party):\u003C/span\u003E \u0100, t\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101, nei te mihi atu ki a koutou, ki a t\u0101tau, \u0101, koutou o Rangit\u0101ne, koutou i tae tawhiti mai, koutou kua tae \u0101-tinana, \u0101-kanohi mai, nei te mihi atu ki a koutou katoa, te hunga rangatahi o Te Kura o T\u0101maki-nui-a-Rua. Kai te mihi atu ki a koutou kua tae mai ki te \u0101ta tiro atu ki t\u0113nei rangi, he rangi whakahirahira t\u0113nei rangi, kai te mihi atu ki a koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. I acknowledge you collectively, us and you of Rangit\u0101ne extraction who have come from afar, physically and face to face. I acknowledge you, all the young ones from the Kura of Dannevirke. I commend you, the younger generation who have arrived to look at this day critically. This day is a significant one, and I congratulate you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EI am not going to take too much time and do a great big long mihi. We all know what we are here for. We are here, finally, after first submitting the claims in the 1980s. And I want to acknowledge some people, and I have a great big list and I am really scared about doing this, because then I am going to miss some people out. But here we go. We will see how well I do and you can tell me off after.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EFirst of all I want to acknowledge Uncle Kuki and Auntie Helen. I will talk more about that soon, when I cast our minds back to 2004 when the tribunal came to Te Ore Ore marae. But I also want to acknowledge Auntie Margaret and Auntie Barbara K\u014Dpua\u2014Auntie Barbie. I want to acknowledge all of my aunties who have passed away while we have waited for this day to come, who were all there in 2004, listening to our Rangit\u0101ne wh\u0101nau stand up and lay their claim in front of the Waitangi Tribunal.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EBut I also want to acknowledge Uncle Jim, Mike, and your wh\u0101nau, and Erena. I want to acknowledge Auntie Mere Kerehi, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Auntie Kate, Nanny Hinerau\u2014lovely to see you. [Interruption] I know. I have got to get your name in Hansard and I will try not to use the \u201Cyou\u201D, because they tell us off for that. But Nanny Hinerau Te Tau is here. M\u0101nahi Paewai, Maisy, Jason, and Mavis\u2014I am going to get told off; I know I have forgotten someone. Richard T\u012Bpene, Piri, kia ora r\u0101. John Sproat, Tina Te Tau, H\u0113nare Te Kani\u2014where are you, H\u0113nare? Oh, ka pai. I want to acknowledge Mavis, of course; Jason; Yvette; Warwick Gernhoefer; Edward Pearse; Mahalia Paewai; and Taylor Mihaere.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003ENow, I have read out a great big list of people and you can tell me off later. But I just wanted to acknowledge how much it takes to come to this point. In 2004, if we remember that day, we had just taken Uncle Kuki on to the marae at Te Ore Ore and then had to turn around and clear the marae for the tribunal to come in. It was a significant day that will for ever be etched in my memory. That year, 2004, was a historic year for us, not because I came home to Wairarapa to take up the role of principal at the kura, but because of the significant acknowledgment of our people, finally. The biggest ever exhibition happened at the Aratoi arts and history museum, where all of our marae got to come in week after week and lay their taonga in front of the people. It had never had an exhibition like it\u201424,000 people came through that exhibition. That is the whole entire population of Masterton. We took all of our kids there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EI remember the day that year when my brother, R\u0101wiri, stood in front of our wharekura class\u2014the first wharekura established\u2014and there were four of us, four students. Mike K\u0101wana\u2014little Mikey\u2014and Frankie and, I think, Ririwai, and who else, Jareth? That was it. We had four of them, and by the end of the year we had seven. R\u0101wiri stood up and in the very first lesson he connected them to how they were connected by whakapapa to both Rangit\u0101ne and Kahungunu, and to each other. I will always remember Uncle Kuki taking me to the marae and into the whare at Te Ore Ore, showing me the photos on the wall and saying: \u201CThat\u2019s your t\u016Bpuna. That\u2019s why you have a waewae here and a waewae there.\u201D I feel like Tara, over the maunga\u2014but I heard that story in a different way, in that he missed his wife so much that he looked at those twin peaks and was a bit mokemoke\u2014ha! Just saying. Free and frank\u2014ha, ha!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EThat year was significant for us, because we were getting over 10 years of heartbreak, when we were known in Wairarapa for killing our children. That is what we were known for, and when we took our wharekura kids to Te W\u0101nanga o Raukawa to study and they stood up and introduced themselves as being from Wairarapa, the entire audience went \u201CAw!\u201D. And they would connect themselves to every other piece of whakapapa that they could find\u2014\u201CI\u2019m not from Wairarapa or from Kahungunu or Rangit\u0101ne; I\u2019m from T\u016Bhoe.\u201D, or \u201CI\u2019m from Ngati Porou.\u201D, or \u201CI\u2019m from Ng\u0101puhi.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dc89462d93da4377b42080622c3b63fa\u0022\u003EPeeni Henare\u003C/span\u003E: Everyone\u2019s from Ng\u0101puhi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220f467da614484d2796fcce63376f6731\u0022\u003EMARAMA FOX\u003C/span\u003E: Ha, ha! All right\u2014that is because you fullas infiltrated everywhere. Ha! But they were ashamed of being from our own town, from our own rohe\u2014our babies. And it was heartbreaking. I remember that R\u0101wiri came up with a plan. He had found a k\u014Drero in the M\u0101ori Land Court records from T\u016Btawake that said: he whakat\u014D t\u0101ne n\u014D T\u016Btewake, he toa. [a man conceived of T\u016Btewake, a warrior.] The making of a man is in T\u016Btawake, the warrior, and not because he was a warrior and not because he was the chief, but because he was known for looking after his wh\u0101nau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EAnd he thought about that, as my brother does\u2014you know him\u2014and he came up with a plan. He said: \u201CYou know, our kids talk about being \u2018the man\u2019 or \u2018the woman\u2019.\u201D, and so he started making posters of all our ancestors. His dream was to put them on every lamp post from the block all the way to town so our kids would walk past them every day. He put them up around the classroom walls. \u201CNireaha was the man, because\u00A0\u2026\u201D and \u201CNiniwa-i-te-rangi was the woman, because \u2026\u201D. And he started bringing these names of our ancestors back and reminding the kids that they were born of greatness; that they had nothing to be ashamed of; that they could stand in the shadow of their ancestors and be proud. And so I want to remind us of one of those ancestors: Nireaha\u2014Nireaha, who owned a hotel where the coach line had to come through.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003ERight now, the hall still stands there, but does anybody notice it as they zoom past? You know? I think of that forest Tapere-nui-a-Wh\u0101tonga, which was chopped down by our Viking cousins. Now we have married them all, so they are all interrelated as well\u2014from Norsewood. They chopped our forest down. It was said to be so heavily shaded by the canopy that you needed a light to travel through it. Nireaha fought for his land and fought to say \u201CNo, I\u2019m not going to stop paying my leases. I\u2019m not going to stop charging leases to the settlers.\u201D\u2014because yes, we embraced settlers. They could come.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EWe were some of the richest landowners in this country, who had our own businesses, who exported to all over the world, who had trade. And we went from that to this because somebody came along and said: \u201CYou can\u2019t pay your land leases to the M\u0101ori anymore.\u201D Nireaha, at 65, took them to the Privy Council and won\u2014and won. And when he got back, despite winning, they dismissed it and still took his land. We all need to know, because I grew up with one of the most prized educations in this land, in Christchurch. People move into those suburbs to try to get that education, and I knew nothing until I came home to Wairarapa and learnt about our people and our greatness\u2014the greatness that you fight for. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EToday, in my last 53 seconds, I just want to acknowledge that we are here and we are born of greatness and we rise and we thrive. This might be a little bit of p\u016Btea\u2014and the greatest gift back to this nation is that we accept such a pittance for the travesty that has happened\u2014but we are still here and we are resilient and we rise. We do it on the backs of your efforts, on the backs of these tamariki on whose behalf we continue to fight; we do it on the backs of our t\u016Bpuna, who left this legacy of power for us; and we do it on the backs of aroha, because what we do we do because we love who we love. We carry on and we rise. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora mai t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225e6b7aaa-8157-4d5e-9940-1bdbcd61ae95\u0022 data-id=\u00227ef0b74a979b40d5a852470b6455087d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225e6b7aaa-8157-4d5e-9940-1bdbcd61ae95\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227ef0b74a979b40d5a852470b6455087d\u0022\u003EALASTAIR SCOTT (National\u2014Wairarapa):\u003C/span\u003E Well, that is a hard act to follow\u2014I would like to acknowledge Marama Fox\u2019s contribution. Also, I would like to acknowledge Ron Mark\u2019s contribution and Jo Hayes\u2019 contribution, particularly for being very linked and tied to the Rangit\u0101ne people, who are in the gallery this morning. Welcome, everybody. Welcome to the House of Parliament\u2014your House. It is an honour to be here speaking in this House in front of you today. It is not often that a sitting MP gets to participate in the third reading of a settlement bill in his or her own electorate. John Hayes before me and Georgina Beyer before him did not get the opportunity to speak on a third reading of a settlement bill. I am looking forward, Mr Mark, to speaking on the third reading of the Kahungunu bill in the near future\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224b09fabee79e4a3bb3d9ae53897b6ff5\u0022\u003EPita Paraone\u003C/span\u003E: So is he.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225e6b7aaa-8157-4d5e-9940-1bdbcd61ae95\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223359333b9b504144b40c7afd14010396\u0022\u003EALASTAIR SCOTT\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014so we will see you next term.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022593bcac6b3bd469281bf818174aa9922\u0022\u003EMarama Fox\u003C/span\u003E: He will have to win your seat.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225e6b7aaa-8157-4d5e-9940-1bdbcd61ae95\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002201aa1eddddd149b888d3bcd5e3346ba0\u0022\u003EALASTAIR SCOTT\u003C/span\u003E: Ha, ha! That is right. I am not going to go through the history; Minister Finlayson has described that very well, and Marama has given some very local history and understanding of the story of Rangit\u0101ne. But I would like to discuss or to mention the cross-claims, and acknowledge the Rangit\u0101ne and Kahungunu arguments. Ron Mark described the arguments as being tough work\u2014hard work. You know, sometimes these disputes can be fractious, aggressive, or unpleasant, even, but I would like to acknowledge your settlement and your understanding, because to get here you must have listened\u2014listened and understood\u2014and that is the benefit of a dispute. That is the silver lining, if you like, of understanding the other party to the dispute, whether it is Kahungunu or the Crown, in this case. So I acknowledge your generosity of spirit in wanting to negotiate and to agree and to listen and to understand. That is very important. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225e6b7aaa-8157-4d5e-9940-1bdbcd61ae95\u0022\u003EI would also like to acknowledge, of course, those who are here, but also those who are not here. I acknowledge those who are listening out there across the country, and I also acknowledge those who have passed, because, of course, they have set the foundation for what is the third reading of the settlement today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225e6b7aaa-8157-4d5e-9940-1bdbcd61ae95\u0022\u003EBut most of my contribution is about the future, because that is what is important. That is what we are here for, that is why we do the work in this House: for the people of New Zealand and for their future. It is so gratifying and so pleasing to see rangatahi here today listening to the third reading. To those people\u2014those young people up there\u2014you will have heard stories from your parents and your uncles and your aunties and your grandparents. If you are like my kids, you do not necessarily listen to your parents. You do not necessarily listen to your family elders, or the members of your family, even, so I am going to take the opportunity to speak directly on their behalf to you. I want to emphasise the importance of the role that young people\u2014you\u2014play going forward, because it is now your responsibility, collectively and individually, to take the mantle and to go forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225e6b7aaa-8157-4d5e-9940-1bdbcd61ae95\u0022\u003EIt is your responsibility to decide who will be your leaders and who will be your followers, because you cannot have leaders without followers, and there is no such thing as followers without leaders. It is a collaborative process. I encourage you to work together, and there has been discussion around working with Kahungunu, working together amongst yourselves to build on the foundation that has been set by those who have come before you. It is a fantastic opportunity that you have in front of you, and I encourage you to take that opportunity to participate, and to look to the people before you as fantastic role models\u2014Jason and Mavis particularly; the best people, the best of the best people\u2014for you to model yourselves on. But it is up to you. It is up to the young people. I cannot do it for you; none of the people in this House can do it for you. It is for you to decide how to act and react to the situation and the opportunities that are laid out before you, going from today forward. With that, I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022 data-id=\u00224017db6ad6d74036a33aa668378baebc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224017db6ad6d74036a33aa668378baebc\u0022\u003EPEENI HENARE (Labour\u2014T\u0101maki Makaurau):\u003C/span\u003E E te M\u0101ngai o te Whare, ka noho tonu ahau ki roto i Te Reo M\u0101ori. Tuatahi m\u0101ku ki t\u014D t\u0101tau kaiwhakarite i te ata nei, ki a Tutehounuku Korako i whakaritea ai i t\u014D t\u0101tau huihuinga kia pai ai te nohoanga o t\u0113nei Whare mai i t\u014Dna t\u012Bmatanga tae noa atu ki te poupoutanga o te r\u0101. K\u0101ti ng\u0101 mihi nui ki a ia. Tuarua ki ng\u0101 mate huhua o te w\u0101, ng\u0101 mate i p\u012Bkauria mai e koutou e Rangit\u0101ne, ki runga i te t\u0101h\u016Bh\u016B o t\u014D t\u0101tau Whare. Kia t\u0101pae atu ko ng\u0101 aitu\u0101 maha kei runga i a m\u0101tau, kia kotahi ai te tangi atu ki a r\u0101tau, haere mai haere e ng\u0101 mate. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti, e huri t\u016B atu ahau ki a koe e te Minita. \u0100, aini ki roto i ng\u0101 waiata M\u0101ori, ki roto i ng\u0101 tau e t\u016B nei, ka k\u014Drerohia m\u0101tau i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki a koe me ng\u0101 mahi nui i oti i a koe ki roto i ng\u0101 tau kua pahure ake nei e p\u0101 ana ki ng\u0101 take tiriti o te w\u0101. N\u014D reira e mihi atu ana au ki a koe me te heamana o Te Komiti Whiriwhiri i Ng\u0101 Take M\u0101ori a Tutehounuku Korako. Ka rere tonu ng\u0101 mihi ki a ia otir\u0101 ki ng\u0101 mema o taua r\u014Dp\u016B i whakarongo ki ng\u0101 k\u014Drero a t\u0113n\u0101, a t\u0113n\u0101, a t\u0113n\u0101 o Rangit\u0101ne kua tau mai i te r\u0101 nei. K\u0101ti ng\u0101 mihi nui ki a koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa k\u014Drero a Marama Fox m\u014D t\u0113nei mea ko ng\u0101 whakapapa a t\u0113n\u0101, a t\u0113n\u0101. E tika ana taku k\u014Drero ki t\u014D t\u0101tau Whare e mea atu ana, an\u0101 ko Rangit\u0101ne, an\u0101 ko m\u0101tau o Te Tai Tokerau, he iwi kotahi. Me kaua e tukuna m\u0101 te ture t\u0101tau e wehewehe ai, n\u0101 runga i te m\u014Dhio i tau mai te waka o Kurahaup\u014D ki roto i a m\u0101tau o Te Tai Tokerau. Me k\u012B p\u0113nei te k\u014Drero, ko Kurahaup\u014D te waka, ko Te P\u014Dhurihanga ki runga, ka puta mai ko Muriwhenua, ka puta mai ko Tamatea, ka puta mai ko Te Kauri, ka puta mai ko M\u0101rama-Ariari, ka puta mai ko Reik\u014Dkopu, ka puta mai ko Hinekehu, an\u0101, ka puta mai ko T\u016Bwhakatere. Ko m\u0101tau o Te Tai Tokerau, he tupuna rongonui a T\u016Bwhakatere ki waenganui i a m\u0101tau. K\u0101ti e ng\u0101 whanaunga o Rangit\u0101ne, ng\u0101 uri o Kurahaup\u014D waka, haere mai, haere mai, haere mai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EHe m\u012Bharo ki a m\u0101tau o Te Tai Tokerau, t\u0101 te mea he p\u014Dhara m\u0101tau. Ka kite atu m\u0101tau i ng\u0101 hia miriona t\u0101ra i tukuna atu ki t\u0113n\u0101 iwi, ki t\u0113n\u0101 iwi. Ko te mea pai o te whakapapa, ka whai karahipi waku tamariki ki roto i a koutou. Kore e taea e te ture te karo i t\u0113nei mea te whakapapa. Mehemea ka k\u012B atu ko Rangit\u0101ne n\u014D Kurahaup\u014D waka, ka k\u012B atu ahau ko waku tamariki n\u014D Kurahaup\u014D waka, t\u0113n\u0101, haere mai, haere mai, haere mai. E aku rangatira, ka whakaaro ake ahau m\u014D ng\u0101 k\u014Drero kei roto i te Paipera Tapu, ko ng\u0101 karaipiture. E mea ana, Ecclesiastes, n\u0113? Ko te \u016Bpoko tuatoru, an\u0101 ko ng\u0101 r\u0101rangi tuatahi ki te r\u0101rangi tuawaru. He w\u0101 an\u014D m\u014D ng\u0101 mea katoa. Ka huri t\u016B atu ki te r\u0101rangi tuawhitu e k\u012B p\u0113nei ana. He w\u0101 m\u014D te t\u012Bhaehae, he w\u0101 m\u014D te hanganga. He w\u0101 m\u014D te wahang\u016B, he w\u0101 m\u014D te k\u014Drero. He w\u0101 m\u014D te aroha, he w\u0101 m\u014D te t\u016Bkino. He w\u0101 m\u014D te pakanga, he w\u0101 m\u014D te rangim\u0101rie. \u0100ta whakaarohia i t\u0113r\u0101 karaipiture. N\u0113? \u0100ta whakaarohia. He w\u0101 m\u014D te pakanga, i pakanga koutou i te pakanga. I\u0101ianei n\u0101, he w\u0101 m\u014D te aroha. He w\u0101 an\u014D m\u014D te aroha. Ko \u0113nei k\u014Drero katoa e h\u0101ngai p\u016B ana ki ng\u0101 take tiriti katoa ka uru mai ki roto i t\u0113nei Whare. N\u014D reira \u0101e, he w\u0101 m\u014D te matenga, he w\u0101 an\u014D m\u014D te ora. N\u014D reira, r\u0101tau ki a r\u0101tau, n\u0101 ka tahuri mai ki a t\u0101tau e te Whare. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa kapohia ake ahau i te k\u014Drero a Alastair Scott i t\u0113r\u0101 taha o te Whare. Me anga atu te titiro ki ng\u0101 tau kei mua i a t\u0101tau. Ahakoa ki hea, i k\u014Drero mai ng\u0101 m\u0101tua t\u016Bpuna m\u014D te ao o w\u0101 r\u0101tau mokopuna. Kua tutuki koutou i t\u0113tahi mahi nunui rawa atu, kia tat\u016B ai te ker\u0113me o Rangit\u0101ne ki roto i ng\u0101 ture a te Karauna, a t\u0113nei Whare hoki. I\u0101ianei n\u0101, ko ng\u0101 whakaaro kei ng\u0101 tamariki, kei ng\u0101 mokopuna e tupu haere nei, e tupu haere nei, e tupu haere nei. Ko te hiahia, ki roto i ng\u0101 mahi kapahaka e t\u016B nei, ng\u0101 whakataetae \u0101-rohe, ng\u0101 whakataetae a Te Matatini, ka rangona wh\u0101nuitia te motu wh\u0101nui i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki a Rangit\u0101ne, me ng\u0101 nekehanga o t\u0113nei kaupapa, an\u0101 ko ng\u0101 take tiriti e p\u0101 ana ki a koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EAn\u0101, me te hiahia kia rangona wh\u0101nuitia e m\u0101tau, he aha nei n\u0101 \u014D koutou wawata m\u014D ng\u0101 uri whakatupu e haere mai ana. Koin\u0101 te wero nui kei mua i a koutou, otir\u0101 kei mua i a t\u0101tau. Koin\u0101 t\u0101ku e p\u0101nui ana i ng\u0101 karaipiture, he w\u0101 an\u014D m\u014D t\u0113nei mea, he w\u0101 an\u014D m\u014D t\u0113nei mea. Kua tutuki i a koutou te mahi nui. Kua tutuki. I\u0101ianei n\u0101, ko te aronga kei ng\u0101 tau kei mua i a t\u0101tau. N\u014D reira koin\u0101 te take e harikoa ana, kia kite atu i w\u0101 t\u0101tau tamariki mokopuna ki roto i t\u0113nei Whare. T\u0101 te mea, ki roto i ng\u0101 tau e t\u016B mai nei, kei runga i ng\u0101 pokowhiwhi a ng\u0101 tamariki, a ng\u0101 mokopuna, ng\u0101 moemoe\u0101 o Rangit\u0101ne, otir\u0101 t\u0101tau te iwi M\u0101ori. N\u014D reira e mihi atu ana au ki a koutou. T\u0101 te mea ko au te kaik\u014Drero whakamutunga m\u014D t\u0113nei pire i te ata nei, ka kapi ahau i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKua wahaina mai e te Minita i ng\u0101 kiko o te pire nei. Ka k\u014Drero mai t\u0113n\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 o m\u0101tau o te Whare i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki t\u0113nei pire, i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero ko w\u0101 r\u0101tau p\u0101nga ki roto i a koutou me te pire kei mua i te aroaro o te Whare nei. Ka riro m\u0101ku nei ng\u0101 k\u014Drero hei whakakapi ake. N\u014D reira e mihi atu ana ahau ki a koutou otir\u0101 ki a t\u0101tau. Kia m\u014Dhio mai koutou, whai muri i t\u0113nei pire ko te pire e p\u0101 ana ki a Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, ka aro atu te titiro ki roto o Tauranga Moana. Ko ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga kei runga i a koutou m\u014D ng\u0101 he aha nei n\u0101 te k\u014Drero? Ka mea mai \u0113tahi o te ao P\u0101keh\u0101, an\u0101 ko ng\u0101 conflicting interests, ko cross interests aha atu raini. E mea ana m\u0101tau te iwi M\u0101ori, an\u0101 ko te whakapapa t\u0113n\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u0100, ko t\u0113r\u0101 take he take nui kei mua i te aroaro o t\u0113nei Whare otir\u0101 te iwi M\u0101ori ki roto i ng\u0101 tau kei mua i a t\u0101tau. Ka whai whakaaro m\u0101tau ng\u0101 mema kei roto i te Whare nei m\u014D ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga e p\u0101 ana ki a Ng\u0101puhi. K\u0101re e kore, ka t\u016B mai t\u0113tahi hap\u016B, ka t\u016B mai t\u0113tahi hap\u016B, ka t\u016B mai t\u0113tahi wh\u0101nau, ka t\u016B mai t\u0113tahi wh\u0101nau, ki te k\u014Drero ki w\u0101 r\u0101tau ake mana motuhake. N\u014D reira ko te pai o t\u0113nei ata, kua kite atu koutou, kua noho ng\u0101tahi, kua k\u014Drero ng\u0101tahi, kua whakaritea nei e koutou i te mahere kia tutuki ai t\u0113nei mahi nui. An\u0101 ko te aronga i\u0101ianei kei ng\u0101 tau kei mua i a t\u0101tau. K\u0101ti ake i konei. Ko te hiahia, kia tau iho mai ng\u0101 manaakitanga o te Kaihanga ki runga i a Rangit\u0101ne, e hoki haere atu ana ki w\u0101 r\u0101tau p\u0101 k\u0101inga puta noa. M\u0101 te Atua koutou, otir\u0101 m\u0101tau, t\u0101tau katoa e tiaki. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E[I will remain speaking in the M\u0101ori language. First of all, I acknowledge our prayer-giver this morning, Tutehounuku Korako. He delivered it on behalf of our gathering so that the sitting of this House goes well from its commencement until noon. Many, many, thanks to him. Secondly, to the myriads of deaths of the moment, those you brought with you, Rangit\u0101ne, and placed upon the ridge pole of this House, and stacked upon the myriads of our deaths so that we can grieve them as one; come forth the dead and farewell. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI turn now to you, Minister. Already within M\u0101ori songs and in years to come, we will talk about you and the great work you accomplished in the past years about matters of the moment relating to the Treaty. Therefore I acknowledge you and the chairman of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, Tutehounuku Korako. Tributes to him continue to flow, but at the same time to members of that committee who listened to contributions by each individual from Rangit\u0101ne who has arrived here today. Many thanks to you all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EMarama Fox has spoken about this thing, the genealogy of that individual and that individual. What I said in my address to our House is absolutely correct, that Rangit\u0101ne and us of Northland, we are one tribe. Don\u2019t let legislation divide us upon the understanding that the Kurahaup\u014D canoe landed amongst us of North Auckland. This is how the aphorism goes: on the Kurahaup\u014D canoe was Te P\u014Dhurihanga who begat Muriwhenua, who begat Tamatea, who begat Te Kauri, who begat M\u0101rama-Ariari, who begat Reik\u014Dkopu, who begat Hinekehu, who subsequently begat T\u016Bwhakatere. To us of Northland, T\u016Bwhakatere is a famous ancestor amongst us well then Rangit\u0101ne, the descendants of the Kurahaup\u014D canoe, welcome, come forth, come hither. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThis is amazing to us of Northland, because we are impoverished. We see the millions of dollars released to that tribe and that one. The great thing about genealogy is that my children will get a scholarship through you! Legislation is not able to dodge this thing called genealogy. If Rangit\u0101ne is able to say it is from the Kurahaup\u014D canoe, I can say my children are from the canoe of Kurahaup\u014D; right, then, welcome, come hither, come forth. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EMy esteemed ones, I think about the accounts in the Holy Bible, the scriptures referring to Ecclesiastes. OK, it is the third chapter, from the first to the eighth section\u2014there is a time for everything. Turning to the seventh section, it says that there is a time for ripping it up and a time to create, a time for silence and a time to talk, a time for love and a time to be bad, a time for war and a time for peace. Really reflect on that scripture, OK; consider it. There is time for war\u2014you fought it. Right now there is time for empathy, and time, as well, for sympathy. All these comments focus on Treaty settlements that come unto this House. And so, yes, there is time for death and there is time for life. And so they the dead to themselves; let us the House turn back to ourselves. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI take up Alastair Scott\u2019s contribution on that side of the House in that the gaze should be directed upon the years ahead of us. Regardless of where, the ancestral forefathers talked about the world of their grandchildren. You have completed one of the most crucial tasks of all and that is to settle the Rangit\u0101ne claim within the acts of the Crown and of this House as well. Right now thoughts are with children and grandchildren that continue to emerge, grow, and develop. The desire is that within future performing arts, both regional competitions and the national Te Matatini competition, the whole country will hear stories about Rangit\u0101ne and the movements of this settlement, namely about Treaty matters that impact on you collectively.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EFurthermore, the hope is that we hear widely what, indeed, are your aspirations for future generations. That indeed is the big challenge for you collectively, but at the same time before us. That\u2019s what I read in the scriptures. There is a time for this so-and-so and a time for this thing. The important task has been done; you have fulfilled it. The focus right now is on the years ahead of us. So that indeed is the reason why it is pleasing to see our children and grandchildren here in this House, because in years to come the aspirations of Rangit\u0101ne, but at the same time of ours, will be on their shoulders. Therefore, I commend you collectively because I am the last speaker for this bill this morning and will cover off the contributions. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThe Minister brought the contents of the bill here, and each of us of the House commented on their connection within you and the bill before this House. It is left for me to cover off the contributions and so I commend you collectively, but, at the same time, us. You should note that following this bill the focus will be on the bill relating to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, and in particular, the circumstances upon you about the\u2014what\u2019s the comment? Some people in mainstream refer to these things called, conflicting interests, cross interests or whatever. Now then, we of M\u0101oridom assert genealogy is that. And it is an important matter before this House and M\u0101oridom in the future for us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWe the members in this House are mindful of the circumstances relating to Ng\u0101puhi. Without a doubt, each and every subtribe will stand up and talk about its own self-determination. So the good thing about this morning is that you have seen, got together, talked together, and arranged the plan together that will fulfil this important task. The direction now for us is to the years ahead. This ends here. The hope is that the Creator\u2019s generosities settle upon Rangit\u0101ne returning to their homes and settlements throughout. God will protect you, but at the same time us, all of us. Acknowledgments and accolades to you collectively, and to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWaiata\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f1d81c53049f420f90ae122ff97ea7a6\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00221d3b608473ad49509ce58f6a51e66932\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u0022a4c31ca435d7442ba90abd22308d2e53\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a4c31ca435d7442ba90abd22308d2e53\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time. I extend a warm welcome to members of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga who have travelled from Tauranga, from Maket\u016B, Manaia, Pakikaikutu, and from further afar to be here on this very important day. The iwi has had to overcome many obstacles to get to this point, but it has been worth the wait.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EAs I always do during a settlement bill speech, I want to acknowledge the driving forces behind each settlement, starting with those who led the way many years ago and who are no longer with us. I particularly want to mention the late W\u012Bremu \u014Chia. As I have said before in this House, he was a great leader, both in Tauranga Moana and on the national stage, and his vision of people working together paved the way to where we are today. I also want to pay tribute, again, to Te Awanui\u0101rangi Black, who left us late last year. During his short life he made fine contributions in many fields. Among other qualities, he was a staunch advocate for Te Reo M\u0101ori, and was determined to make a difference for his people through his involvement at the regional level and also on numerous boards. He was committed to development for M\u0101ori in general, and his iwi in particular, and that is why he became a negotiator for Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. Today, this bill is the realisation of his aspirations and the aspirations of his tupuna before him.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ETo those who worked so hard to make today possible, I offer my most sincere thanks. The settlement represents years of hard work by the negotiating team, and I acknowledge Shane Ashby, Harry Mikaere, \u0100reta Gray, Dominic Wilson, and R\u0101hera \u014Chia. For the past 7 years they showed an unwavering willingness to engage constructively with the Crown, even during difficult periods of the negotiation. The Crown and Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga signed a deed of settlement at Te Whet\u016B o Te Rangi Marae on a very fine Sunday afternoon in April 2013, over 4 years ago. Since then, while their iwi-specific settlement was on the backburner, they continued to engage with the Crown and with their neighbours on the collective settlements in Tauranga and in Hauraki. Today I salute them for their fortitude and determination, and for remaining steadfast in their commitment to settle in the face of some difficulties.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI am not going to go over the settlement package in too much detail, as some of my colleagues may want to talk further about this in their speeches. What I want to do is take some time to articulate and record the history of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga and their interactions with the Crown over the past 170 years. That history is the reason we are here today. In April 1840 a leader of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, Te Kou o R\u0113hua, signed the Treaty at Maungatapu. He expected that the Crown would protect his people\u2019s rights, property, and privileges. He spoke on many occasions of the partnership that he believed would flow from the Treaty.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EA few years later, as the New Zealand Wars unfolded, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga did not support the fight against the Crown after the invasion of the Waikato in 1863, despite many iwi supporting the K\u012Bngitanga. They did not fight a year later when the war came to Tauranga Moana after Crown troops attacked P\u016Bkehinahina. Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, as an iwi, chose instead to uphold the Treaty, and did not take part in any of the conflicts. Despite assuring the iwi it would scrupulously respect their interests, the Crown, through the enactment of the New Zealand Settlements Act 1863, confiscated a very large part of the district, thus unjustly extinguishing all of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga\u2019s customary interests in Tauranga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIt is important to acknowledge that this settlement relates to people whose lives were irretrievably affected by Crown actions. Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga lost much of their k\u0101inga m\u0101tua through the confiscation of their lands at Tauranga Moana, and were dispersed between their four small and scattered k\u0101inga as a result. Despite upholding the law and the Treaty, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga were severely impacted by the loss of their land and the loss of their mana. They did not receive the same opportunity as others to protect and nurture their interests in Tauranga Moana. They became dependent on lands gifted to them by other iwi. Even then the Crown failed to respect the rangatiratanga of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga in their remaining lands. The Crown continued to fail them during the 19th century and did not protect their tribal interests from the impact of the individualisation of M\u0101ori land titles. It is a testament to their tenacity that they have maintained a presence in such disconnected areas as Manaia and, further afar, Pakikaikutu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ELast month we commemorated the 154th anniversary of colonial forces invading Mangatawhiri. This battle marked the beginning of the Waikato War, which was a defining conflict in New Zealand history. Ensuing battles in various parts of our land shaped our country and its people. We cannot build a relationship or move forward together unless we acknowledge what happened in the past, whether it happened at Parihaka or Mangatawhiri. As we prepare ourselves for the first national commemoration day on 28 October, today is a good opportunity for the Crown to acknowledge the errors of the past and to make amends for its actions or omissions. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EMembers who are present in the House know I say this for every settlement, but the loss Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga suffered can never be fully compensated for by the Crown, and much of what was lost simply cannot be returned. However, the people of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga have accepted the redress contained in the settlement and, in doing so, have decided to look to the future. The financial and commercial redress provided to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga seeks to recognise the losses suffered by them. They are going to receive $7 million, plus interest, as well as commercial redress properties and rights of first refusal over specific land.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe cultural redress aims to recognise their traditional, historical, cultural, and spiritual associations with places and sites in their area of interest. This includes the vesting of cultural redress properties, protocols, and statutory acknowledgments, and funding to support projects involving cultural revitalisation. I am pleased to hear that Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga has already got on with it and inaugurated their new wharenui in Manaia earlier this year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI believe the package will help reconnect Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga with its environment and acknowledge the mana and the rangatiratanga of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga in its four k\u0101inga. During the second reading speeches, the Hon Nanaia Mahuta pointed out that it is not the size of the settlement that matters but how purposeful it is and how suited it is to support the vision of the iwi, and, with respect, I wholeheartedly agree with her.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThroughout the negotiations, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga have worked very hard and shown a willingness to move forward, even when navigating some tricky waters. They have laid a new foundation for their relationship with the Crown and are now positioning themselves as a key player in Tauranga, which, as we all know, is growing at such a fast pace. Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga are ready for their next journey and, thus, without any further delay, I commend the bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u00220fa81e1cae934626afd22556f9102ddf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220fa81e1cae934626afd22556f9102ddf\u0022\u003EKELVIN DAVIS (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Tuatahi m\u0101ku hei whakapuaretia \u0101ku nei k\u014Drero i te ata nei, e mihi kau ana ki t\u014D t\u0101tau kaikarakia n\u0101na nei i t\u012Bmata te wahanga nei i runga i te huarahi tika. N\u0101 reira, t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koe e te tuakana, e Nuk. \u0100, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koutou, nau mai, haere mai ki roto o t\u0113nei Whare, haere mai ki raro i te tuanui o t\u014D t\u0101tau Whare. I t\u0113nei w\u0101 e whakatau ana i \u014D koutou ker\u0113me. Kua rongohia ki roto i Te Whare ng\u0101 ingoa o w\u0113tahi kua wehe atu ki Te P\u014D. N\u0101 reira, ko Awanui\u0101rangi t\u0113tahi, ko Monte \u014Chia t\u0113tahi, me te tini te mano hoki n\u0101 reira, kei te tangi, kei te tangi, kei te tangi tonu t\u0101tau katoa i a r\u0101tau. Engari r\u0101tau ki a r\u0101tau, ko t\u0101tau ki a t\u0101tau an\u014D ng\u0101 kanohi ora, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u0100, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, t\u0113nei ahau he tamaiti n\u014D Te Tai Tokerau e mihi kau ana ki a koutou. E rua ng\u0101 take e hiahia ana te whakak\u014Drerohia i te ata nei. Ko t\u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 k\u0101inga kei roto i a m\u0101tau o Te Tai Tokerau a Pakikaikutu. I te p\u0101nuitanga tuarua o t\u0113nei pire, n\u0101ku i whakam\u0101ramatia ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga o taua k\u0101inga. He aha te take he k\u0101inga o Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga kei roto i a m\u0101tau o Te Tai Tokerau? I whakam\u0101ramatia e au i te k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki t\u0113r\u0101 o koutou i haere, i peka atu ki te t\u016Btaki i tana tuahine, ko Te Rore, te wahine o Wharepoaka. I tana taenga ki uta, kua haere ia te t\u016Btaki i tana tuahine engari, t\u0113tahi nanakia n\u014D roto o Ng\u0101ti Wai, horekau n\u014D Ng\u0101puhi, \u0101, i patungia, i k\u014Dhurungia taua tangata. I runga i t\u0113n\u0101, n\u0101 taua tupuna, a Te Tirarau, i runga i te m\u014Dhioranga kua h\u0113 taua mate, n\u0101na i hoatu taua wahanga, taua k\u0101inga a Pakikaikutu ki a Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, kia taea ai e Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga te noho ki waenganui i a m\u0101tau o Te Tai Tokerau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E Ko taua k\u014Drero, he k\u014Drero hei honohono i a koutou ki a m\u0101tau, engari, t\u0113r\u0101 atu tetahi k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki t\u0113r\u0101 pakanga i roto i a m\u0101tau o Ruapekapeka. I te w\u0101 i roto a K\u0101witi, i roto a Hone Heke i te mura o te ahi, kua huri a Hone Heke me te p\u0101tai: kei hea a Kaharau? Ar\u0101, kei hea \u014Dna whanaunga n\u014D te taitamat\u0101ne? He aha te take a Hokianga, k\u012Bhai i haere mai ki te \u0101whina i a m\u0101tau o roto o Taum\u0101rere? Kua puta te tono m\u014D \u0113tahi kia haere mai hei \u0101whina, hei whawhai pokowhiwhi ki te pokowhiwhi ki a Ng\u0101ti Hine. W\u0113nei i tae ake ko Ng\u0101ti Manu, Te Kapotai, Patukeha, w\u0113tahi n\u014D Mangak\u0101hia. Kua tae ake hoki a Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira, t\u0113nei ahau he uri o aua rangatira o Ng\u0101puhi, e mihi kau ana ki \u014D koutou t\u016Bpuna i haere mai i taua w\u0101 ki te whawhai tahi, pokowhiwhi ki te pokowhiwhi, n\u0101 reira, i runga i t\u0113n\u0101, t\u0113nei ahau e tuku atu i t\u0113nei tono ki a koutou kia haere mai ki roto i a Ruapekapeka \u0101 28 Oketopa, kia whakamaumaharatia e t\u0101tau, \u014D t\u0101t\u0101u t\u016Bpuna n\u0101 r\u0101tau i whakaheke \u014D r\u0101tau toto i runga o te maunga o Haruru Tapuwae. N\u0101 reira Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, t\u0113nei m\u0101tau e whakawhetai ana ki a koutou, ki \u014D koutou t\u016Bpuna m\u014D aua \u0101whina n\u0101 r\u0101tau ki a m\u0101tau, n\u0101 i runga i t\u0113n\u0101 ka huri ake ahau ki te pire.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[The first thing for me in terms of opening my comments this morning is to immediately acknowledge our prayer-giver, who began this part on the right track. Therefore, thank you very much, elder colleague, Nuk. And now to you, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, acknowledgments to you collectively, welcome, come hither into this House, come here under the roof of our House. At this moment, I formally welcome your claims. Some names of individuals who have departed to the void have been heard in the House. Therefore Awanui\u0101rangi was one, Monte \u014Chia another, and countless, thousands more also, and so all of us continue to mourn, grieve, and lament them. But allow them, the dead, to remain there among themselves while we the living remain here amongst ourselves, acknowledgments to you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EAnd so to you, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, here I am, this child from North Auckland, paying you collectively a tribute indeed. There are two matters that I want to address this morning. One is about those settlements amongst us in North Auckland at Pakikaikutu. In the second reading of this bill, I was the one who explained the circumstances about that settlement. What is the reason for a Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga settlement being located amongst us in Northland? I explained the story about one of yours who branched off to visit his sister, Te Rore, the wife of Wharepoaka. When he got inland, he went to meet his sister, but a scoundrel from within Ng\u0101ti Wai, not from within Ng\u0101puhi, killed and murdered that man. Consequently, when that ancestor, Te Tirarau, found out that killing was wrongful, he handed over that part, that settlement, Pakikaikutu, to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, so that they, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, could stay amongst us of North Auckland. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThat story is one that links you to us, but there is another one, which relates to that battle amongst us of Ruapekapeka. At the time when K\u0101witi and Hone Heke were at the heat of battle, Hone Heke turned and asked: where is Kaharau? In other words, where are the relatives of the younger brother? What is Hokianga\u2019s reason for not coming to help us of Taum\u0101rere? The request had gone out for others to come and assist to help fight Ng\u0101ti Hine, shoulder to shoulder. These were the ones who turned up: Ng\u0101ti Manu, Te Kapotai, Patukeha, and some from Mangak\u0101hia. Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga also arrived. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003ESo here I am, a relative of those esteemed ones of Ng\u0101puhi, acknowledging your ancestors who came at that time to fight as one, shoulder to shoulder, and as a consequence of that, I extend this invitation to you collectively to come to Ruapekapeka on 28 October, so that we can celebrate and remember our ancestors who shed their blood on the mountain of Haruru Tapuwae. And so our huge appreciation to you, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, and your ancestors for that assistance of theirs to us, and as a result of that I now turn to the bill.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, it must be acknowledged that as an iwi you did not participate in the war in Tauranga because your t\u016Bpuna were committed to upholding the principles of Te Tiriti o Waitangi, and it was the Crown that was ultimately responsible for the outbreak of war in Tauranga in 1864. The actions of the Crown were a breach of Te Tiriti. As a result, since that time you have all been disadvantaged by the actions of the Crown. The confiscation and raupatu at Tauranga Moana and the Tauranga District Lands Acts of 1867 and 1868 unjustifiably extinguished the customary title of Te T\u0101wera Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga and the land within that confiscation district. It breached Te Tiriti o Waitangi and its principles. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThe Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations has set out a lot of the history, and we always turn to talk about the compensation. We keep saying that compensation is just a fraction of the value of the worth of what happened. We all acknowledge it is totally unfair, but we also acknowledge that we must move on from here. We always use Tainui and Ng\u0101i Tahu as examples of what iwi can do when they settle and have some p\u016Btea just to start and grow the wealth and well-being of their people\u2014of their iwi and their hap\u016B. On that note, we wish the same for Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, and that from here on in it is a new leaf, a new start, and a new beginning\u2014always remembering what happened and never forgetting it, lest we repeat those sorts of actions. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, this is a great day for you. It is a great day for M\u0101oridom, because your success is also our success. Our whakapapa is interconnected\u2014Mr Speaker, if you did not quite pick up on what I was saying in M\u0101ori. At the Battle of Ruapekapeka, when Hone Heke was under siege, he asked \u201CWhere is Kaharau?\u201D, meaning: \u201CWhere are the people of Hokianga? They should be coming to help their relations over on the other side of the island, in the Bay of Islands.\u201D Some tribes did turn up\u2014Ng\u0101ti Manu, Te Kapotai, Te Patukeha, a few individuals from Mangak\u0101hia Valley\u2014but also Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga arrived, to help Hone Heke and K\u0101witi at the great Battle of Ruapekapeka, which ended the Land Wars in the Tai Tokerau area. It is just fitting that they are here today and that I can extend the invitation\u2014because on 28 October we are beginning the commemoration of the M\u0101ori Land Wars, and the first commemoration is at Ruapekapeka, and it is an opportunity to extend the invitation to them. Their ancestors and our ancestors fought shoulder to shoulder and shed blood at Ruapekapeka. For that, Ng\u0101ti Hine and Ng\u0101puhi are eternally grateful. Without a doubt, they would be guests of honour up at Ruapekapeka on that day. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EI will not drag things out, other than to say that it is a pleasure and an honour to be able to speak on this bill, and to acknowledge you all. Thank you very much for coming down to Wellington from Tauranga and Pakikaikutu, that little bastion of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga amongst us, up in the Tai Tokerau. N\u0101 reira t\u0101tau m\u0101, huri rauna t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[And so greetings and acknowledgments to you collectively and to us all throughout.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022 data-id=\u0022dbd180c23f5e475d867260350c63997c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022dbd180c23f5e475d867260350c63997c\u0022\u003EJOANNE HAYES (National):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe. E koro m\u0101, e kui m\u0101, e rau rangatira m\u0101 o Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, ng\u0101 mokopuna hoki, ka nui te mihi atu ki a koutou, nau mai, haere mai ki te r\u0101 whakahirahira, kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E[Elderly men and womenfolk, esteemed ones of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, and grandchildren as well, there is much acknowledgment to you. Welcome and come hither to the highly important day, greetings.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI stand to deliver a speech that was given to me today by the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, Nuk Korako. He has had to go. His father-in-law passed in Ahitereiria, and so he flies out very shortly to Australia. Without any further ado, I too want to add my congratulations to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga on this third and final reading, and so I will now read out the speech that was to be delivered by the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EIt is a significant day in the eyes of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga iwi today\u2014to finally witness their Treaty settlement bill being read a final time. This comes 15 months after the bill was first introduced to the House, and more than 4 years since the deed was signed. But it reflects many more years of hard work on the part of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga to get to this stage. Their time has finally arrived, and Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga is about to begin a new journey of making this settlement work for them and for their future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the negotiators who worked on this settlement. When the chair last checked on the Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga website, this team was described as \u201Cthe wedge battle formation\u201D. It is made up of R\u0101hera \u014Chia, Shane Ashby, the late Awanui Black, Harry Haerengarangi Mikaere, \u0100reta Gray, and Dominic Wilson\u2014ka mihi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI also want to acknowledge the Crown\u2019s chief negotiator on this settlement, Dame Patsy Reddy, who I am sure will be delighted that, after her work on this settlement, she will soon have the opportunity to sign the settlement off in the legislative procedure.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, the Hon Christopher Finlayson, whose vision, drive, and intensive work programmes are what make this Government\u2019s astounding progress on Treaty settlement bills possible. Just look at last night, when we saw the incredible foresight at play when we completed the second reading of the New Plymouth District Council (Waitara Lands) Bill. It was not a Treaty settlement bill\u2014it was a local bill\u2014but it had a similar outcome for Te Atiawa on land claims. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga suffered extensive land confiscation, as we have heard, by the Crown in the 19th century. Even when the now landless iwi received gifts of land from other iwi, the Crown\u2019s individualisation of titles resulted in the alienation of that land. In our modern world, it is hard to imagine the level of bad faith exercised by the Crown to iwi like Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. This was an iwi that thought it could place its trust in the Crown, which signed the Treaty of Waitangi, and in a Governor who promised that it would scrupulously respect Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga\u2019s interest. As we now know from history, the promised scruples were in short supply. Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga were fragmented, spread throughout the wide area, and even now face challenges in working together as a distinct entity. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the strong leadership. This has brought together iwi members from areas as distant as Whangarei, the Coromandel, Maket\u016B, and Tauranga to work together for their common purpose.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EThis settlement firstly acknowledges the history of the Crown\u2019s actions that have negatively impacted on Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga and gives the Crown\u2019s apology for them. It provides cultural redress that recognises the associations Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga has with particular places and allows for iwi to work with the Crown to protect and enhance the conservation values of those sites. Four sites of importance will be transferred to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, and statutory acknowledgments are provided for each of those sites. The Crown is also providing payments for revitalisation of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga culture and the revitalisation of the marae at Manaia. It also provides commercial redress, in the form of $7 million, which gives Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga the opportunity to develop their economic base, which will provide the well-being for their people and into the future. It is a start. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EToday\u2019s proceedings bring the settlement journey to a close, but now a new journey and a new challenge opens up for Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga and its leaders. Your wisdom and your actions now will determine how well this settlement increases the opportunities available to your people and provides a bright future for Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. I wish you all the best in this endeavour.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EThis commercial redress cannot, and does not, fully compensate Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga for what they have lost through the Crown\u2019s actions. No Treaty settlement can do that. Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga have displayed their generosity by accepting this settlement, which has been offered as a full and final settlement of their claims. E Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, e ng\u0101 iwi, I commend this bill to the House. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022 data-id=\u0022b4577efb20e04aef848f8f4c931cd9b2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b4577efb20e04aef848f8f4c931cd9b2\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Labour\u2014Hauraki-Waikato):\u003C/span\u003E Tuatahi, ka tika, me mihi atu r\u0101 ki a Tutehounuku Korako me tana karakia hei whakaw\u0101tea i te w\u0101hanga m\u014D \u0113nei k\u014Drero i t\u0113nei ata. Tuarua, me mihi atu r\u0101 ki Te Minita, \u014Dna mahi hei tiaki ng\u0101 whakahaeretanga e p\u0101 ana ki ng\u0101 whakataunga ker\u0113me. Tuatoru, ki a koutou o Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, ka nui te mihi atu ki ng\u0101 koroheke, ng\u0101 r\u016Bruhi, koutou katoa i taemai nei i runga i te manako o ng\u0101 m\u0101tua t\u016Bpuna, kia ea koutou i roto i \u0113nei o ng\u0101 mahi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[Firstly, it is apt that I acknowledge Tutehounuku Korako and his prayer to clear the part for these contributions this morning. Secondly, I must acknowledge the Minister indeed and his work in taking care of operations concerning claim settlements. Thirdly, to you collectively of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, there is much acknowledgment to you, elderly men and womenfolk, to you all who have arrived here upon the desires of the ancestral foremothers and fathers so that you are satisfied within these tasks.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI reflected on the historical contribution that the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations made, and it is certainly true. In all Treaty settlements the Minister has a strong grasp of the history and the encounters between the Crown and iwi M\u0101ori from 1840 to this point. It has been demonstrated time and time again in a number of Treaty settlement readings.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EIn so far as Tauranga Moana is concerned, I wanted to highlight a couple of things. Firstly, I want to acknowledge those negotiators who confirmed the deed of settlement\u2014R\u0101hera \u014Chia, Harry Haerengarangi Mikaere, H\u014Dri Parata, Rehua Smallman, and Regina Berghan\u2014on behalf of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga and the trustees of Te T\u0101wharau o Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga Trust. I do that because the responsibility of taking some very difficult challenges of resolving historical grievances, in the hope that you can build a better future, is by no means a small feat. They did it in mind of the number of Wai claimants that would be included, and they have been listed in the legislation that we are passing today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI make that comment because this is a difficult process, and those iwi who have gone through the process often wonder: \u201CIs it a risk too great? Is the time now? Should we wait?\u201D. With all those things in mind, they still continue to go forward because the aspirations of the future are too great and outweigh some of the challenges of the present. So I respect that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI want to say that in so far as the history that the Minister outlined is concerned, whether or not Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga signed the Treaty of Waitangi, and whether or not Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga participated in the wars of Tauranga Moana, the Crown acted indiscriminately, and in the confiscation of lands in Tauranga Moana, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga was prejudicially affected.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ESo the way in which Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga\u2014and you only need look at the map of where the various interests of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga reside in Whangarei, in Manaia, in Hauraki, and in Tauranga Moana. You get a sense that the mass dissipation of an iwi actually, as a result of confiscations, fundamentally impacted on a range of things\u2014not just access to your whenua, where you were from originally, but your knowledge of that area and your relationship to that area. Even relocating to other areas, and the history surrounding that, provide a range of, I guess, new and contemporary tensions, albeit established back in the 1800s, and a new way of working with neighbours who have now become whanaunga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EIt is no small feat to try to address the issues for Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga in a comprehensive way, with the hope that, at some part of our historical commitment to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, on both sides of the House, in progressing a Treaty settlement, there will be enough institutional knowledge to say that the obligation on the Crown is high, no matter what the size of the settlement is. The obligation is high because the people have been dissipated, yet they are trying to do something in unity for everybody.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThat is evident to me in a number of ways. Firstly, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga establishing their cultural connection across the areas where they currently reside is absolutely important. What overlays that, and is not necessarily evident in the legislation, is the ability of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga to repatriate and tell their history in a way that honours the current state of where they reside, why they reside there, and what that then means for successive generations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EBut here is the thing. The relationship redress contained in Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga\u2019s deed of settlement, which is not evident in the legislation, will actually be probably the proof of the pudding about the Crown\u2019s ongoing commitment to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. So if you go through the range of relationship instruments or letters of introduction and protocols that Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga have expressed, it is evident to me, at first glance, that it is about how to derive the greatest amount of value for the people\u2014the descendants of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga\u2014and education is key.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EMany of those letters of introduction cover a range of educational tertiary institutions that span the whole area from Whangarei right down to Raukawa, as well as Government agencies in the cultural and heritage spaces\u2014also primary production, and the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment. So when I make a note of the relationship redress instruments in that range of aspirations around the relationships there, it seems to me that will be the proof of the pudding about the commitment of the Crown, not only to restore its mana but to commit to a future relationship with Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, so that they can grow their aspirations, for the benefit of their whole people\u2014notwithstanding their dissipated location of where they actually reside now. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ESo that is hopeful. It can only really be achieved, again, with the leadership of the iwi and with the commitment of the Crown going forward, but it is hopeful. We should ensure that our commitment as parliamentarians\u2014because, by and large, we have had a unanimous approach to Treaty settlements. No matter what side of the House you sit on, that is the hope that we should give voice to as we commit to these Treaty settlements.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThe next thing I would say, in terms of the Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga settlement, is that some of the redress remains outstanding, in relation to the Tauranga Moana Iwi Collective. As was set out by agreement by the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee earlier this morning, the redress and remedies around Tauranga Moana have been excluded.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI did not want to, I guess, stand and not mention these things, because I saw them as important, and I wanted to give an assurance, certainly from our members who are on the select committee and from our side of the House, that the proof of the pudding for Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga will be in the future relationship with the Crown.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EIt is so important that people hear the story of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga as you work through how this Treaty settlement is going to leverage and give greater opportunity to the next generation. One small comparator: it is a little bit like in our own rohe within Tainui waka, Ng\u0101ti Apakura\u2014indiscriminately affected as a result of raupatu, widely dispersed from Taup\u014D, all throughout Maniapoto and Waikato, and if there were true gypsies of the Waikato confiscations, it was Apakura. So there is a huge obligation within iwi but also on the Crown to try to make sure that we do much more in this regard to support the aspirations, because the actions of the Crown were indiscriminate. No matter where Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga stood at a certain point of time, the actions of the Crown were indiscriminate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EWe often recognise that the Crown acknowledgments and the apologies of Treaty settlements for the iwi are the most important thing because it holds the Crown to account. I am not going to, in this instance, read it out\u2014time does not afford it of me\u2014but I do want to signal, while there is a Minister in the House, that the inclusion of local content into the education curriculum, certainly in so far as young people learning their own history within their own rohe, can often be derived from the history in the deed of settlement that has been set out, the apology, and the Crown acknowledgments. We should continue to foster our education system towards repatriating local history into our schools so that all our kids know what happened, but, more importantly, what iwi did to try to move the next generation into a better space.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, he iti n\u0101ku, n\u0101ku te raurau m\u014D t\u0113nei kete k\u014Drero hei \u0101whina i t\u0113nei t\u016B\u0101huatanga. Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[Therefore, a small contribution from me; this receptacle is mine for this contribution basket to help this situation. Acknowledgments, congratulations, and well done to you, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, and to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022 data-id=\u002221c2b699caae4ac0976e7b96e688a3db\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002221c2b699caae4ac0976e7b96e688a3db\u0022\u003EDr SHANE RETI (National\u2014Whangarei):\u003C/span\u003E E rau rangatira m\u0101, e ng\u0101 iwi, kia ora mai t\u0101tou. It is a pleasure to speak to this bill in its third reading, a Treaty settlement bill that has all the features of a well-formed settlement bill: firstly, the apologies and acknowledgment; secondly, cultural redress; and, thirdly, commercial redress. There are also significant other components in the deed of settlement that are not in the bill because they do not require legislative authorisation. This includes cultural redress: a $500,000 cultural revitalisation project and a $180,000 marae revitalisation project component. Also, commercial redress not in this bill includes a quantum of $7 million in interest in commercial redress of properties.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003EThese are some of the structural elements to the settlement, but I want to briefly talk to the wider picture in a non-fiscal manner. I started off by saying that it is a pleasure to rise and speak to this bill\u2014a generic pleasantry, maybe, to start a contribution, but today it really is a pleasure, a rare and very timely pleasure with 3 more sitting days before the House rises. To elaborate, I am the elected MP for Whangarei, and it has been a sadness to me, and I know to others, that in this parliamentary term no Treaty settlement has settled in the boundaries of my electorate. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003EMy electorate is also encompassed by the Te Tai Tokerau M\u0101ori seat held by my colleague Kelvin Davis, but Kelvin has had the pleasure of many Treaty settlements across Tai Tokerau, so his cup is not empty. In contrast, with 3 sitting days to go, my cupboard was looking very bare. The electoral cycle was going to come to an end, and Treaty settlements in Whangarei would be unrequited and unfulfilled for another time\u2014but Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga have saved the day. At the completion of this third reading, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga will settle, and the electorate of Whangarei will have its first Treaty settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003EWhen I raised this with the wise heads of the Northland Regional Council a few weeks ago, they asked \u201CBut how can that be, when Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga are a more southern presence around Tauranga, Maket\u016B, and Manaia in the Coromandel?\u201D. Well, as a colleague alluded to in a previous reading, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga have a historical presence in my electorate, about 7 km out of Whangarei, through Onerahi and along Whangarei Heads Road is that beautiful place colloquially known as Tamaterau, which is also known as Pakikaikutu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003EThe historical oral and website account describes a division of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, led by venerated chief Moeroa, on a mission to buy firearms and munitions from the European and American traders in and around Russell. On their journey they passed the entrance to Whangarei Harbour, and one of the warriors expressed a desire to visit his sister, Te Rore, and so was let off and the flotilla continued on. Reaching a small river, the young warrior stooped to partake of the crystal clear waters and soothe his parched throat when an assailant ambushed him and killed him.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003EBack in the Bay of Islands, word reached Moeroa and his army that their comrade had met a terrible fate. Now well armed and primed for battle, the canoe sailed forth from the Bay of Islands to Whangarei. Te Tirarau and the other chiefs of Whangarei also heard the news of this treacherous act and that Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga were on the war path and none of them were safe. As it was one of their own who was the perpetrator, they considered what the best course of action might be. Some advocated war preparations while others advocated caution, as Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga\u2019s reputation as a warrior race preceded them. In fact, these people had been called on previously by Whangarei iwi Te Parawhau to assist them in their battles, in which they were victorious. They were not to be trifled with.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003ETe Tirarau and other chiefs decided that because the reason for P\u016Bkenga\u2019s advance was in fact just, they must respond as rangatira, and so they decided they would meet the war party at P\u0101rua Bay en masse. Making quick time, the majority of Whangarei chiefs made their way to await Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. The two iwi met on the shores of P\u0101rua Bay and prepared to engage in a war. Local chief Te Tirarau spoke of the killing as a treacherous deed that must be paid for, and suggested that for the killing of their kinsman the local tribes would gift Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga the place where the man was felled. More than that, the area would be larger so that they could remain on the land to become tangata whenua along with the other tribes of Whangarei. Moeroa contemplated this offer and finally said that he would accept the whenua as compensation, that this action would wipe the slate clean, and from that time on Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga would be equal in mana with the other tribes. Moeroa and his people settled the land known as Pakikaikutu. Moeroa died in his 90s and is buried at Pakikaikutu-Tamaterau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Wai are my iwi, in the large natural grouping of this area, and speaking with them, they are very pleased for Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga to be settling today. Settlement discussions went well, and resolutions around boundaries out to the tidal margin and out to the heads also went well, not only with Ng\u0101ti Wai but also with Te Waiariki, and so today Ng\u0101ti Wai and other local iwi join with you in celebration. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003EIn conclusion, I join with you in celebration, a celebration that is, of course, much wider than my small area of electoral representation. This is a celebration of acknowledgment of the past and hope for the future for the people of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, and history will record you as the first settling iwi of Whangarei. For that, I both congratulate you and thank you. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora mai t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022 data-id=\u0022fa8411c7016e4c5e89cb3a57229c860c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fa8411c7016e4c5e89cb3a57229c860c\u0022\u003ECATHERINE DELAHUNTY (Green):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Assistant Speaker. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou e Te Whare Nui, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou e te wh\u0101nau wh\u0101nui o Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, Te T\u0101wera, and Ng\u0101ti H\u0101, nau mai, haere mai, piki mai ki Te Whare P\u0101remata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003E[Greetings to you collectively, the Big House, and to you, the extended family of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, Te T\u0101wera, and Ng\u0101ti H\u0101, welcome, come hither, and climb aboard Parliament House.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI would like to start by acknowledging the negotiators and the team with \u0100reta Gray and others. I would like to also acknowledge your loss of your great man Awanui Black. I would like to acknowledge the connection that I feel very deeply to Manaia and to the Mikaere wh\u0101nau and Harry Mikaere\u2019s work on this. I have not mentioned all the people, I do not know all the people; I am very privileged to speak, though, about any of you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThis is my last Treaty speech in the House before I return to Hauraki. I have been extremely privileged to speak on Treaty bills as a P\u0101keh\u0101 in this Whare and extremely privileged that the last one should be for these people who have a connection to where I live, in their rohe\u2014part of their rohe. They have many, many places to stand. I just want to acknowledge those places to stand, as we have heard previously: Tauranga, Maket\u016B, Whangarei\u2014as my colleague has just described\u2014and Manaia in Hauraki. I thank the people for travelling all that way. It is a long journey, a very long journey. Not everybody gets to jump on a plane all the time like politicians. Some people have to drive those roads, and we welcome you to this Whare.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI am very pleased we have got here in time, before the House rises. I know that Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga were very keen to get this done before the end of this term of Parliament, and with all the complexities around some of this, it has been a long struggle, so congratulations\u2014you got here; get it done. I know there are other issues to be settled around the moana, but at least this iwi can move forward and say they have reached this point, so all honour to you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI do want to briefly look back at the history, and there is too much to talk about, so I will just acknowledge some small examples of what has happened to these people. We say things very glibly in this House; it rolls off the tongue that after the Land Wars, these people who were not participating in the raruraru were given \u00A3350 by the Crown for 50,000 acres\u201450,000 acres. It is hard to even hold in the mind\u2019s eye the scope of all that whenua and what goes with it: all the life, the births, the deaths, the kai-gathering, the tradition, the culture, the economic base of those 50,000 acres and \u00A3350.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003ESome things never change. However, it was not just what happened in the 1800s that we need to stand up and talk about; it is also what happened through the M\u0101ori Land Court. You could say the M\u0101ori Land Court was an instrument of worse oppression than the gun, because you can see the war coming, but when the war is through the court, it is a special form of torture. The way that the M\u0101ori Land Court treated Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga in terms of forcing the individualisation of land blocks\u2014not only Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, many, many, many iwi experienced this, but Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga experienced a full attack via these provisions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EThat is how a culture is destroyed as its collective being, to individualise land blocks. The main commitment that colonisation took was to individualise, to divide, and to rule. In the 1970s this was still going on. I know it was, because I moved to Hauraki in the 1970s, and Auntie Betty Williams\u2014whaea; kuia now\u2014told me about what happened to her mother\u2019s land block in the 1970s, and why she fought that in the 1970s when the small blocks were once again under attack by the M\u0101ori Land Court. The wh\u0101nau blocks of land, and more land, were alienated.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI just want to stand for a moment to acknowledge kuia Betty Williams, who came to my valedictory on Tuesday but could not stay. She is from Manaia\u2014she is Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. When it comes to the redress that is in this bill, people like her stood up and fought for their whenua, and they fought for the Manaia Harbour, and they fought for the rivers and the rohe. Multinationals wanted to take the land and explore that harbour, the beautiful Manaia Harbour, for mining, and kuia like Auntie Betty and her wh\u0101nau stood up. So we should never forget that this is not just about ancient history. We need to teach our people that this is about the 20th century\u2019s continual use of the tools of oppression against these people\u2014not just in Manaia but right through the rohe of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. So, just acknowledging that kuia who taught me that if you want to stand in her rohe, you stand for Te Tiriti o Waitangi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EIt is good to see in the redress that places like the Manaia Harbour and the Manaia River are actually part of that, and the beautiful marae that has been part of the restoration of resources for Manaia. I am sorry that I am talking about just this part of the rohe; I know there is a lot more, but it is good to see and I know that they are leading now in education. Their kura kaupapa is renowned throughout the rohe. So it is to their credit that all of these things are happening. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI want to talk generally now back to the settlement, and back to an issue that I mentioned in the second reading because it was brought to us by Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga around issues of right of first refusal. I just want to say thank you. You, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, have inspired us, te R\u014Dp\u016B K\u0101k\u0101riki, to talk about the need for a review of the Treaty settlement process, because there are anomalous things that happen, that are not talked about, but you, yourselves, brought this to us. So thank you for bringing that right of first refusal: the fact that it says in all the settlements that it can also be offered to a charitable trust. This, to me, is like saying: \u201CWe\u2019ve stolen your car, and we\u2019re offering you back a hubcap, but if one of the thieves\u2019 families wants to have the hubcap first, you can have second dibs on that hubcap, and it\u2019s a little bit bent, but he aha!\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003ESo I think that Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga must be given credit for raising this issue and saying that just because it is in every settlement, does not mean that it is right. That is why we stand for\u2014we do not believe in full and final settlement, in the Greens. We believe that Te Tiriti commits us, particularly article 2, to an ongoing relationship of negotiation based on respecting the rangatiratanga of the tangata whenua. And Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, you, sorry, they\u2014you are not meant to say \u201Cyou\u201D in the House because otherwise it means the Speaker and he gets cross with me\u2014have laid down the wero to this Parliament about rights of first refusal. I want to acknowledge too that the Ministers are always open to debate on these issues and I really appreciate that. I really do appreciate that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003ESo thank you Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. Thank you for reminding us that\u2014$5 million is not a hell of a lot of money, but you are going to make the best of it, and you are going to hold us to account, and the apology is important. There is a lot to apologise for\u2014getting back to the hubcap\u2014but, actually, one of the most important things in this very positive settlement is the focus on education and cultural heritage. I wish that we all would dedicate our lives, not just tangata whenua, to educating everybody in Aotearoa about the true nature of the basis of this country and what has happened, and how it has happened; who stole what hubcap from whom, and how we are all part of the healing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ee528dc-7870-4553-95ed-5ec0cab60f07\u0022\u003EI want to thank Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, in all of their sites where they stand so powerfully, for bringing up the issues, for standing for their own people, and, in standing for their own, for actually challenging us to educate our own. Te R\u014Dp\u016B K\u0101k\u0101riki is committed that there should be this education, there should be this respect, and there should be this review of Treaty processes. Always honouring, not settling, is the kaupapa. Kia ora t\u0101tou. Ng\u0101 mihi nui ki ta Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u00224e38ae85c9f94b4c9c241ed84528f4fe\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224e38ae85c9f94b4c9c241ed84528f4fe\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard)\u003C/span\u003E: I just want to thank Catherine Delahunty, my ex-classmate, for her final contribution in the House. There have been a few Onslow College people come and go from the House, and there is no doubt that Catherine has continued the passionate style to which we have been accustomed. Thank you, Catherine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022 data-id=\u002260b2dba2afca44eab7047819ee07b6a3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002260b2dba2afca44eab7047819ee07b6a3\u0022\u003EPITA PARAONE (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E Te mea tuatahi e tika ana kia mihi kau ana ki t\u014D t\u0101tau hoa a Tutehounuku, n\u0101na i whakarite t\u014D t\u0101tou nohoanga m\u014D te r\u0101 nei, n\u0101 reira, e kara, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Koutou n\u014D Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, koutou i tau mai nei i runga i te karanga o Te Whare nei kia whakamana t\u0101 koutou ker\u0113me ki te taraipiunara, n\u0101 reira, nau mai, haere mai! Haere mai, p\u012Bkautia mai ng\u0101 tini aitu\u0101 kei waenganui i a koutou ki te t\u016Bhonono ki t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 mate kei waenganui i a m\u0101tau. N\u0101 reira, e tika ana kia whakahuangia e t\u014Dku tuakana a Kelvin, a W\u012Bremu r\u0101ua ko Te Awanui\u0101rangi n\u0101 te mea, i te w\u0101 e ora ana, n\u0101 r\u0101ua i t\u016B kaha ana ki te kawe atu i t\u0113nei kaupapa, engari, i muri mai i t\u014D r\u0101ua hingatanga, n\u0101, ka taka mai w\u0113n\u0101 kaupapa ki runga i a koutou, n\u0101 reira, e kore e mimiti te puna k\u014Drero m\u014D r\u0101tou engari, e k\u012B nei te k\u014Drero haere, haere hoki atu! N\u0101, ka hoki mai ki a t\u0101tou te hunga ora, n\u0101 reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003E[The first thing is it is apt that a compliment be accorded to our colleague Tutehounuku. He considered a prayer for our sitting on this day, therefore well done. To you collectively of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, who alighted here upon the call of this House to enact your claim to the tribunal, welcome, come hither! Come forth with the myriad of deaths that are amongst you to link to this one of the deaths within us. Therefore it is apt for my elder sibling, Kelvin, to mention W\u012Bremu and Te Awanui\u0101rangi, because when they were alive, they were resolute in bringing this proposal forth, but when they passed away then these matters dropped upon you. And so the pool of talk about them will never run dry, but the aphorism says this: depart, go forth, farewell! I come back now to us the living, and so acknowledgments, accolades, and salutations to you collectively.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003ELike for all third readings of Treaty claims, being from the North I stand and unashamedly say that I am jealous. I belong to, allegedly, the biggest tribe in New Zealand and yet we cannot get to this stage\u2014in fact, we cannot even get to the negotiating table. This is the second settlement bill that we have heard today and I must congratulate those who have been responsible for bringing this bill to this stage. I just wonder whether or not it is a message to Ng\u0101puhi that perhaps we should put a woman in charge of the negotiations. But then that should not be a surprise coming from someone who is descended from, and whose tribe is named after, a woman\u2014Hineamaru.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira, e tika ana kia mihi kau ana ki a koutou e Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga engari, i roto i te pire nei, e tika ana kia whakahuangia \u0113nei o ng\u0101 hap\u016B \u014D koutou, ko Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, Te T\u0101wera me Ng\u0101ti H\u0101, me Ng\u0101ti Kiorekino, Ng\u0101ti Hinemotu, Ng\u0101ti R\u0101kau, Ng\u0101ti Te M\u0101tau, Ng\u0101i T\u014Dwhare, and Ng\u0101ti Wh\u0101kina. N\u0101 reira, e rapa ana i ng\u0101 ingoa o aua hap\u016B i roto i ng\u0101 ripoata o Te Whare nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003E[Therefore it is apt that I should indeed acknowledge you collectively, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, but in this bill it is appropriate for these hap\u016B of yours to be mentioned: Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, Te T\u0101wera, Ng\u0101ti H\u0101, Ng\u0101ti Kiorekino, Ng\u0101ti Hinemotu, Ng\u0101ti R\u0101kau, Ng\u0101ti Te M\u0101tau, Ng\u0101i T\u014Dwhare, and Ng\u0101ti Wh\u0101kina. So I am looking for the names of those hap\u016B in the reports of this House.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EI do not want to reiterate the history that has culminated in this bill coming before the House today. I think we are all quite clear on why this bill has come here and why this settlement is taking place. I think one of the good things that will come out of it is that discussions are already being had about having this history included in our curriculum. I have no doubts that the history of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga will be one of those that will be recited throughout the country, because of the historical nature of a peaceful iwi\u2014well, they certainly were regarded as peaceful at that time\u2014but having paid the price, the ultimate price of that stance that they took of not participating in that battle. It does contribute to the dark side of our history. I say \u201Cour history\u201D because, whether we like it or not, the Crown\u2019s activity is part of our history. To me, to see the apology that has been given by the Crown, while it is given with such sincerity it will never, ever replace the damage that it has done to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003ESo I just want to reiterate my congratulations to those people who have been responsible for carrying this kaupapa on behalf of their people. I also want to say that in the previous bill that came before the House this morning my tuakana Peeni referred to the Scriptures\u2014that there is a time for love and there is a time for hate, talking of the different seasons. Today is part of that process that Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga have taken\u2014ng\u0101 piki, ng\u0101 heke.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003ECan I say\u2014and I want to take the liberty of saying this\u2014that this is only a start of a new journey that they are going to take, and there will be ups and downs, but it will be incumbent on those whom the iwi put their faith in to determine how that journey takes place going into the future. I say this because I can recall my father giving me this word of advice after, in my own hap\u016B\u2014or we call it an iwi; we are probably the only ones who refer to Ng\u0101ti Hine as an iwi\u2014I was given the responsibility of chairing our r\u016Bnanga. He said: \u201CBoy, if you think you\u2019re a leader of your people, never forget to look behind you, because if there\u2019s no one there then ask the question \u2018Who are you leading?\u2019 \u201D. That will be the challenge for those people who will be charged with carrying the future of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga and its fortunes. No doubt, the very people whom you serve will be the very ones who will give you the roughest time. I k\u012B mai w\u0113tahi, w\u0113n\u0101 te \u0101huatanga o Te M\u0101ori, w\u0113n\u0101 te \u0101huatanga o w\u0101 r\u0101tou aroha ki a t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003E[Some have said that that is a M\u0101ori trait, that is the feature of their empathy towards us.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EWe heard, earlier on, the connection to the North, particularly of Pakikaikutu. As my tuakana also said in an earlier debate, when people succeed then we are related to them, but if they do not, \u201COh, don\u2019t know that fulla.\u201D Well, I want to just say that that connection between Ng\u0101ti Hine and Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga is already there. You just ask Bentham\u2014Bentham knows. In terms of that relationship, I hope that from time to time this mere mortal from Ng\u0101ti Hine might avail myself of your generosity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003EKia ahatia! Engari e tika ana kia mihi tonu ki a koutou, t\u014Dku whakaaro, t\u014Dku mihi ki a koutou korekau e pau te kaha. Engari ng\u0101 k\u014Drero whakamutunga, ng\u0101 manaakitanga o Te Runga Rawa kei runga i a koutou, ki ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau, me \u0113r\u0101 atu o ng\u0101 tupuranga kei te heke mai, n\u0101 reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora mai an\u014D t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cba965bb-864f-4e06-99dc-6fcdfd007ad5\u0022\u003E[So what! But it is still fitting for you collectively to be acknowledged, that is my view; my tribute to you will never lose its intensity. On the other hand, the closing remarks: may the kindness of the Almighty Above be upon you collectively, the families and those other generations to come, therefore greetings and acknowledgments to you collectively, and my appreciation once again to us.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022 data-id=\u00226d256e37665040dfac160e9661b35301\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226d256e37665040dfac160e9661b35301\u0022\u003EMARAMA FOX (Co-Leader\u2014M\u0101ori Party):\u003C/span\u003E \u0100, t\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101, otir\u0101, ki a koutou kua hui nei i t\u0113nei w\u0101, kua haere \u0101-kanohi mai, kua r\u0101ngona \u0101-taringa, kua kite \u0101-karu, kia rongo \u0101-wairua hoki ki te kupu e wh\u0101rikihia nei e \u0113nei o ng\u0101 hoa mahi, rangatira hoki o Te Whare M\u012Bere.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003E[So thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker, but at the same time to you collectively who have gathered here face to face at this point in time to listen, to see visibly, and to hear spiritually, as well, the message being set down here by this one of these work colleagues and esteemed ones of the Beehive too.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EWell, sometimes I wish I could just pass my speaking spot to someone else\u2014any of you in the gallery\u2014who knows this better than me, who knows your history better than I do, who could stand here and tell of the battles both historic and today\u2019s. We hear you. Someone who could come down here\u2014and, Mr Assistant Speaker, if that was something we could do I would gladly give up my place for any one of these rangatira to come down here and tell us from their lips the stories of their people. But I will make some sort of attempt today to get on to the record of this House the parts of your history that have inspired me. It is a historic day for you, and it is a historic day for M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EAs you look around here and see that our seats are just about empty as the business of the House continues in other rooms around the place\u2014you know, sometimes I mourn at that. I think there can be nothing more important than being here for this. There can be nothing more important than rectifying the grievances of the past\u2014and is it a rectification, I am not sure? That is a flash word. Is it one? Does this make it right? Obviously, it never does. It is an opportunity to take stock and then look forward. All right, we know what has happened but it is time to look forward, and your people have been doing that for a long time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EI remember at Awanui\u0101rangi\u2019s tangi talking about building up the puna, so that when one dies it does not matter, because there are many to take their place. So that is what has happened. You are all here ready to take up your place. But as I looked over the history and I looked at the Battle of Gate P\u0101, I found this account and I thought you might be interested. Some of you may have read it; some maybe not. This comes from \u201CCaptain Mair\u2019s Graphic Account of the Memorable Battle\u201D. It says: \u201CNo satisfactory explanation has yet been given, how it happened that nearly two thousand men of Her Majesty\u2019s forces, the finest troops known, amply provided with the best artillery and arms of precision in the world, were singly defeated by less than two hundred and fifty \u2026 warriors, whose only weapons consisted of old flint tower muskets,\u201D\u2014and I do not even know what this word is\u2014\u201CBrummagem double and single barrelled shot guns and long-handled tomahawks.\u201D\u2014but they were. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EThen I had a look down at how the people did this, and I found this little paragraph, which I think you might love: \u201CDuring the interval from their first occupation of the Gate Pa, the rebels, energetically assisted by their women folk\u201D\u2014just saying\u2014\u201Cin the heaviest work,\u201D\u2014because women do the heaviest work; just saying again\u2014\u201Cand being entirely unmolested, had converted a harmless looking grassy knoll into a work that was to test the calibre of British troops to the utmost. Probably there never was an instance in modern warfare where more deliberate and carefully conceived plans had been devised for securing a crushing defeat of the enemy.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EThen what did they do? They saw that, and then they rolled in with cannon fire, day after day after day. When they finally entered into the p\u0101, having destroyed all of the palisades that had been erected, what did they find? It was empty, apart from the few fallen warriors who were there. But the people, through their trenches and through their tunnels in the middle of the night, through the gaps in the army\u2019s regiments, had snuck off to fight another day. And yet we do not even know about this. We do not remember. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EThis country does not acknowledge our Land Wars. We have a date now. We have a date now to do that, and that is because of your wh\u0101nau, who came to the steps of this place, and others from across the country, including the girls from \u014Ctorohanga, who came and demanded that we recognise the Land Wars in this country, where more Kiwis, both M\u0101ori and non-M\u0101ori, were killed than in both World Wars. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EYou know, you go to Gallipoli, and it is this sacred spot where those wars were raged. You go to places around the world, and they are sacred spots\u2014you know, tapu\u2014and then you come to the places of war in Aotearoa, and there is a road going straight through it and cows grazing on top of it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EOne of the old people said to me: \u201CMarama, you know when it\u2019s M\u0101ori land. The roads are straight. You know if it\u2019s M\u0101ori land. The roads are straight because they drove them straight through. And you know when it\u2019s not M\u0101ori land, where people had already occupied it, because it goes around the farms.\u201D Here, in the most sacred places, which should be remembered and hallowed and respected and put aside for all of Aotearoa to remember, the road goes straight through. So I thought that was quite a lot of fun, reading that account from the eyes of the British, who were despairing and saying: \u201CHow could we have lost? How could we have been defeated\u2014the finest infantry that we had?\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EYou know, your tupuna\u2014and I had better get this right\u2014Te Kou o Rehua signed Te Tiriti o Waitangi at Maungatapu in April of 1840, and when he did that, he anticipated that the Crown would protect his people\u2019s rights and privileges, which had been repeatedly spoken of and written in the words. We all know that by the mid-1850s Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga started to go \u201CHold on. What\u2019s going here? We thought we were in this together.\u201D, nevertheless, Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga never gave up. They always stood up and always battled against the injustices that were being meted out time after time after time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EWe know that because you are still here, and you still battle and, despite the pittance that is delivered by the Crown, which is supposed to make up for the injustices of the past, you still accept it and move on. But we never forget, and you do that in the example of our ancestors, who always did it. From the 1880s Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga can be seen in the records of this nation protesting about the injustices that had been meted out time and time again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EWe come to this point when, finally, we can accept that we, inevitably, need to move on. As you have heard from others, they are very envious. Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa is yet to come to this House to hear their first reading, and you have come to your third. Ng\u0101ti Hine and Ng\u0101puhi have yet to get it together\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022523e1f66f25940b6bb1fb2cc1457526d\u0022\u003EPeeni Henare\u003C/span\u003E: No, just Ng\u0101puhi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b21ce839e98f4ccc803556441cb242c5\u0022\u003EMARAMA FOX\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, right\u2014sorry. There is only one side that needs to get it together, apparently, and the other side is all good. I am not sure which side he is talking about. But, you know, we sit and we have turned on each other to get to this point, when we should have been focusing our attention on our common enemy, and that is not each other. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003EWe stand in kotahitanga, and sometimes elections are like that. They pit us against each other, even though we here are all M\u0101ori in this House. We need to come together if we are going to ever realise tino rangatiratanga on our land. Your people fought for kotahitanga. Your people stood united. Your people have continued to stand and thrive, and looking forward, despite what happens in a couple of months, or a month\u201440-something days\u2014we will continue to stand and we will continue to thrive. And it does not matter who is sitting in these seats down here; it matters who is sitting in those seats up there. And here is the next generation, ready to take up the mantle of the example that you leave for them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3d9fd88-4715-419d-be08-e1c4eda7d09e\u0022\u003ESo I am proud to stand here and support the third reading of your bill in your time for your history and for your future. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u00229de4996e75b24600940c40d69e65694e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229de4996e75b24600940c40d69e65694e\u0022\u003EADRIAN RURAWHE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Hau\u0101uru):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te M\u0101ngai o Te W\u2019are, otir\u0101, e tika ana kia tuku mihi atu ki a koutou ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau me ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, n\u014D reira, e whakapiri ana taku mi\u2019i ki ng\u0101 mi\u2019i katoa kei roto i Te W\u2019are nei ki a koutou katoa; n\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Hoi an\u014D ki a t\u0101tau o Te W\u2019are nei, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker, but at the same time it is apt that I offer a tribute of acknowledgment to you collectively, the families and subtribes of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, and so I add my accolades to all those accorded to you all from within this House; therefore, salutations and well done to you collectively. And, as a result, my appreciation to all of us of this House, congratulations.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EIt is a pleasure to take a call on the third reading of this Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga Claims Settlement Bill. I want to acknowledge all of the members of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga who have arrived here at this Whare today to hear the third reading of this bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI want to first of all speak about the first part of the bill, which comprises the historical account, acknowledgment, and apology. Every time I speak to a settlement bill, I try to go back to the deed of settlement and read the historical account, and just when I think I have read the saddest historical account, along comes another one. I want to acknowledge everything that is in the historical account. These historical accounts are written in quite a clinical way, I think. You do not always get the full emotion of what has happened to the iwi. So if I was to characterise what I have read, I read about conflict, about war, about raupatu, about deceit, and about dishonesty, and I wanted to recognise the full extent of the history that Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga carry today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EFrom that historical account, we have the acknowledgment, which acknowledges the breaches of the Treaty, and I wanted to read out one in particular. It says: \u201CThe Crown acknowledges that its confiscation/raupatu at Tauranga Moana left Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga increasingly dependent on tuku whenua lands (lands received through customary transfer) outside of Tauranga for their support, and that the wish of Te Kou o Rehua expressed in his \u014Dh\u0101k\u012B for all Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga at Manaia to return to Tauranga Moana has not been realised.\u201D That is an acknowledgment from the Crown in recognition of what is in the historical account. My colleague Peeni Henare pointed out to me about some land at Akerama that was gifted to Patarau\u2014that is near Ruapekapeka\u2014as one example of that tuku whenua. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI think it is important that this House recognises the full extent of what has happened to Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. I will not go through all of the acknowledgments, but I also want to refer to the apology. There is a very clear structure to these settlements in this legislation: historical account, acknowledgment, and then, of course, the apology. The last clause of the apology reads: \u201CThe Crown acknowledges the suffering it caused Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga through its breaches of Te Tiriti o Waitangi/the Treaty of Waitangi. This settlement will, the Crown sincerely hopes, mark the beginning of a new relationship between the Crown and Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga that is founded on respect for Te Tiriti o Waitangi/the Treaty of Waitangi and its principles.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI think that, to me, recognising that first part of the bill is the most important part of this process. It is part of the start, hopefully, of the process of reconciliation over what has happened, the pathway forward, and the means by which that can happen. The means by which that can happen is, of course, through the cultural redress and the commercial redress. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EFirst of all, I want to congratulate the negotiators on negotiating a comprehensive package of redress mechanisms, which includes cultural revitalisation, cultural reconnection, and relationship protocols. The cultural revitalisation mechanism that is in the bill is really important. I cannot imagine the impact on the Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga traditions and Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga Reo by the iwi being distributed from Tauranga Moana all the way up to Tai Tokerau. That must surely have had a huge impact on the traditions, culture, and language of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. Through that cultural revitalisation it is my sincere hope that Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga will be able to move forward positively and reconcile all of those disparities that it has to face for the future. Like previous settlements, it is an act of generosity of Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga in accepting this Treaty settlement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003ETo finish on a positive note moving forward, I wish Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga all the best for the future; that this settlement and the totality of this package moves Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga forward; and that, indeed, as it states in the apology, there is a new relationship between the Crown and Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga. I also hope that the relationships with all our whakapapa and whanaungatanga between all iwi in the areas that Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga reside can also move forward as well. I think that the legacy that will be handed to the next generation is a good one, and one that is full of hope and opportunity for the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EIf I can also acknowledge other speakers on this bill today: in particular, I do want to acknowledge Catherine Delahunty for her contributions to all settlement bills, including the first reading of the Ng\u0101ti Apa settlement, which I was a negotiator for. I remember very clearly the contribution that she made. I think she used the hubcap analogy in that one as well\u2014it was so true. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI also want to acknowledge Mr Pita Paraone for his contributions, which are always consistent and always, I think, if anything, encouraging, because I have whakapapa to Tai Tokerau as well. I acknowledge his persistence in wanting to see a conclusion to the Ng\u0101puhi settlements as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, k\u0101ore e roa taku k\u014Drero i t\u0113nei w\u0101, oti noa, e tika ana kia tuku mi\u2019i atu an\u014D ki ng\u0101 uri o T\u0101wera, o Ng\u0101ti Haonga, o Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, n\u014D reira, koutou m\u0101, kia kaha, kia m\u0101ia, kia manawa nui i roto i t\u0113nei \u0101\u2019uatanga, n\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[My contribution as a consequence is not a long one at this moment, but it is appropriate once again for me to accord a tribute to the descendants of T\u0101wera, Ng\u0101ti Haonga, and Ng\u0101ti P\u016Bkenga, so, to you and the others, be strong, bold, and really stout of heart in this one of the circumstances, and, accordingly, my appreciation to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EWaiata\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EHaka\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u00224c87396c165e437e9c67bbd8d6d37cfc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224c87396c165e437e9c67bbd8d6d37cfc\u0022\u003EThe ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Trevor Mallard)\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you. I get a sense of how my ancestors felt. The House stands adjourned until 2 p.m. today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id2017080913406b16c0d34f73ac6ebc6507ca7b3c000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 12.11 p.m. (Thursday)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"