"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00222783b44c2b4c494093fea7ff0f79f33b\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 5 JULY 2018\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022581da05b350d4a79949a00dfbbc822d9\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 5 JULY 2018\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000002\u0022\u003EThe Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000004\u0022\u003EPrayers.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002269951aa3588b4ffea7d726901c0a8fc8\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b807c7fe2c95460bb268f8ad7cf97d3c\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022ec718fac2b2647ba9a0a2e8afd164692\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ec718fac2b2647ba9a0a2e8afd164692\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E The House will next sit on Tuesday, 24 July. The 11-hour Estimates debate will be the main business of the week. On the morning of Wednesday, 25 July, there will be an extended sitting for the committee stages of the Social Security Legislation Rewrite Bill and the Military Justice Legislation Amendment Bill, and the second readings of the Courts Matters Bill and the Tribunals Powers and Procedures Legislation Bill and the Statutes Amendment Bill (No 2). On Thursday, 26 July, the second reading of the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Claims Settlement Bill will take place. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e8a1700568784ec6852f2629d5816223\u0022\u003EOral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002235fb417d7cae4496ad76ac60a3c7d4b8\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228888e8fd23e14d12940c5d042f089487\u0022\u003EPrime Minister\u2014Government Tree-planting Programme and KiwiBuild\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022 data-id=\u002229b396ed67e947708a14974b2e19efde\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002229b396ed67e947708a14974b2e19efde\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT (Deputy Leader\u2014National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his Government\u2019s policies and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022 data-id=\u0022634f76fec67c4ac58c89fe7d3ed6fea1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022634f76fec67c4ac58c89fe7d3ed6fea1\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Acting Prime Minister):\u003C/span\u003E Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c33142351e0d4a6b999caf0c9b3aabdd\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does he consider it fair that a family earning the median household income of $82,000 per year is less likely to get into one of the 1,000 KiwiBuild houses because two doctors earning $180,000 a year are eligible to enter the ballot?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ef4b574ab21d4ceeb5829ef2dd0d4070\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: The reality is that both the examples given by the member will be in the ballot. We\u2019re not going to advance the course of defeating homelessness in this country by setting people against each other for political purposes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022462e43c9ef104e95a22a61e4ecc09ff9\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: So what does he say to a hard-working family who earn $82,000 per year who are likely to miss out on a KiwiSaver home to a family earning more than double that?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223319a7a2f0f84c4eb334938bb627a439\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: The reality is that anyone who knows a thing about housing development knows that KiwiBuild is a dynamic start to which there will be additions in the future, and for the first time in a very long time people like that are going to have a chance to enter the home market as an owner rather than a renter.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221aba670701bc45fdaccbd6ba26225014\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Isn\u2019t it correct that the only reason that you\u2019ve increased the eligibility criteria to such high levels is because you know that you can\u2019t deliver houses that are actually affordable?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e8139ef8db3f4c5e942aa7432af1761b\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! No. The Prime Minister will not answer that question. [Interruption] No. The Prime Minister might\u2014in fact, he can\u2019t, because it was mainly addressed to me. Paula Bennett, do you have a further supplementary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228bf36e3099da49fcb2bd6512d7100a86\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does he stand by his Government\u2019s statement that it is \u201Ccommitted to its tree planting ambitions, which will help create sustainable jobs in our regions and help meet our carbon emissions targets\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262ce75760e434eab81c78629fb8e3a09\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f58126559f8d4cac87db8c2e4946dee9\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Why does his Government\u2019s policy of planting 1 billion trees include plants recognised as pest weeds such as silver wattle, hawthorn, and the Taiwan cherry, which the Tasman District Council has been working to eradicate?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a5adba093e09465bbdfd01930f6b2861\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: The experience from history, of course, is as you are preparing for a war, in this case on neglect toward the provinces, one might make the odd mistake, but over 400 trees were listed. One or two were a mistake and they have been weeded out.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224c2c5981d2eb43faaf0e06fb9c881a5b\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Order! Before the Hon Paula Bennett asks her next supplementary, which member interjected while Ms Bennett was asking her previous supplementary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cd70ceee76ad4fd2b3bdd0bc9fb02b39\u0022\u003EHon Dr David Clark\u003C/span\u003E: I believe I interjected after Ms Bennett had finished her question, but\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002205ca6f410bef4e3080c199582659f489\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. Someone clearly interjected during the supplementary question. OK, I\u2019ll go back to the tapes and have a look.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229a39ea3c2a5441feb11ac577b74e7934\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: So is it a billion trees, or a billion weeds?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022728bdcb3a6b84b949663acba5b46cc66\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: The research department of the Opposition are going to have to put more work in than that. If that was an attempt at being a comedian, don\u2019t give up the day job, but, then again, maybe it\u2019s not the member\u2019s fault and it\u2019s the research department\u2019s fault, because that sort of mistake has been repeated in this House by countless members of the Opposition.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225b4ce68c9b544448a4a309c13bf437da\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: If, as the Prime Minister states, the list has been updated and the errors have been corrected, then why, at 1 o\u2019clock when I printed the list, was it exactly the same and still talking about the silver wattle, the hawthorn, and the Taiwan cherry?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a2fb59aefb5643debe0368d32daaa8c0\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I can say that given there\u2019s such little public interest in this mistake, and that only one person apparently has applied to see that it is there as evidence, namely the member\u2014despite that, this Government is so aware of public concern on a matter like that, if it ever it arises, that even one application for information sees us act within a matter of minutes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002253199196df604ddaa3be9f10acc1d5b1\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: I seek leave, then, to table the list of native and exotic species that have been included in the programme that was available at 1 o\u2019clock, as it may be changed over time. I\u2019d like it tabled in the House, thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022810c294e455f4307bbb2daacea59f99f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: OK, the member seeks leave to table a document which everyone hopes will be changed. Is there any objection to that? There appears to be none.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003EDocument, by leave, laid on the Table of the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221a3222a8c6f941318b5b4d333db80084\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Is he reassessing his Government\u2019s foreign ownership policy now that he is happily welcoming in the Chinese Wonder Tree, the Oriental plane, and the Manchurian birch?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a05b5a4c6ff34c8789cde09aec893b21\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Can I just say that there\u2019s two things about that question which should be clarified. First of all: these are productive investments. And the second thing is that because of the ideological mantra that we have to live with, of the 10 biggest forestry companies in this country, eight are foreign-owned. We\u2019re setting out to build a New Zealand that we will own in the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00221b345471d2de4d2fae37b0201bd9e832\u0022\u003EOverseas Ownership of New Zealand Property\u2014Exemption for Te \u0100rai Development\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022 data-id=\u002258efeba56a6f4b709d00b90d197ca9b4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002258efeba56a6f4b709d00b90d197ca9b4\u0022\u003EHon AMY ADAMS (National\u2014Selwyn)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Finance: In the timeline of events put to him in the first supplementary question to Oral Question No. 11 on Wednesday 4 July, which specific events were incorrect, and what is the alternative, correct version of those events?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u0022d1fb979710ef4f1bbc7b07b7598594d2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d1fb979710ef4f1bbc7b07b7598594d2\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Associate Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E I became aware of the issues relating to the local iwi, Te Uri o Hau and Ng\u0101ti Manuhiri, after they made a joint submission with Darby Partners to the Finance and Expenditure Committee on 15 March. I became aware there were non-iwi developers in the weeks that followed\u2014i.e., shortly after the member did. Other errors in her version of events include a claim that I took the paper to a Cabinet committee on 22 March, when the Cabinet committee met on 28 March. The member claims Treasury advised me of the level of non-iwi interest in the land\u2014they did not. The correct version of events is that the Government called for public submissions on the bill, and in response to those submissions and after discussions between Ministers, and with Cabinet approval, proposed changes to the bill on the face of the bill, not through a regulation-making power, including a transitional exemption for the Te \u0100rai development.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002215a46591a2a74ebf8cb8f2a2e0aa621d\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: How does he reconcile the statement in his paper to the chair of Cabinet\u2019s economic development committee, \u201CIn particular, it should be clear that a decision to exempt this development is not due to the fact that the land is provided as Treaty redress.\u201D, with his statements in Parliament that the exemption was driven by \u201Ca desire not to cause unfairness by diminution of value of a Treaty settlement asset\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222217460304e94f418a8bfa3b4464ea29\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: Easily. That\u2019s a reference to the Treaty\u2014the Article 1 Treaty sovereign right of the Government to make those laws. I believe, and the Government believes, that changing the law in a way that substantially diminishes the value of the Treaty settlement asset is a legal Article 1 act of sovereignty. But it also risks creating a Treaty grievance, and that\u2019s what I\u2019ve said time and again. The Treasury advice focused on the Article 1 rights; that means it\u2019s legal to do so, not that it\u2019s fair to do so, and not that it will not create a new grievance. I\u2019ve also said that when that line is crossed is a moot point, and I\u2019ve explained why, in these circumstances, which are unusual, we propose the time limit exemption.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f5baafed0e614af5b54a79102cd26c60\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: When he said, in this House on 3 July, that his decision to advance the exemption was informed by conversations he had had with ministerial colleagues and advice from Treasury, which was itself informed by legal advice, was he actually saying he just did what his colleagues asked given that Treasury\u2019s actual advice to him was that \u201CThere is no legal obligation to exempt Te Uri O Hau or Ng\u0101ti Manuhiri from the bill.\u201D, and that Treasury recommended the exemption not proceed?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222b2e843f006745a6978e4783c0b3704b\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Any one of the three.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022222c42355d244bb58644014e071c129f\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: No.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223d76e74bdf6f4d6c9bbda49aa9348a7c\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Was the Rt Hon Winston Peters one of the ministerial colleagues whom he had conversations with about the Te \u0100rai development?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225f099927541245eb8aac13de05be05a3\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: By the end of the process, but not at the start.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224d91cc14acad4bd1bf8bd8298dd81487\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: So when he took his recommendation for an exemption for Te \u0100rai to Cabinet, did he know that prominent Ng\u0101ti Wai kamatua, chair of Ng\u0101ti Manuhiri, and one of the owning trustees of the Ng\u0101ti Manuhiri land at Te \u0100rai is John Paki, Winston Peters\u2019 cousin?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e4abcb2582ec4da4950daf29ca44470e\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: No.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aa49cc5998c14ac0b6a84b8275a132f9\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. With respect, when one mentions the word \u201Ccousin\u201D, does she mean \u201Cfirst\u201D, \u201Csecond\u201D, \u201Cthird\u201D, \u201Cfourth\u201D, or \u201Cfifth removed\u201D, because that sort of insinuation\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002282c9734421754806be835e8792cfe296\u0022\u003EHon Members\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s not a point of order!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002211d5a576f55a4d78976d46d29164df7a\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014beg your pardon?\u2014is beneath that member?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220635f9b1e34a45a7a1f9f4cb581e40f8\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I\u2019m not sure that is a point of order, but what is clearly in question is a generally held convention around families of members. But it is a convention and not a Standing Order. Does the member have a further supplementary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f267e072db184f76bd9c3213cd122cac\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: When he said, on Wednesday, 27 June, that no Ministers had declared conflicts in respect of Te \u0100rai, because there were none, does he think Mr Peters should have declared a conflict in respect of Mr Paki under Section 2.65a of the Cabinet Manual\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f1bfe4310739441a957bf48f52d85f17\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member will resume her seat. This Minister has no responsibility for that. Further supplementary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222d0cf85db10b430d8fba4ff2d80fc12f\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Isn\u2019t the reality of this situation most accurately summed up in this way: as Minister, he didn\u2019t want an exemption for the Te \u0100rai land; Treasury agreed they shouldn\u2019t get one; the legal advice said there was no case to grant one; but, in a fiery debate around the Cabinet table, which included his own M\u0101ori caucus arguing for an exemption for all M\u0101ori land, New Zealand First won the day and saw a purpose-built exemption created just for their Northland friends and family members?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002286b61e9f61a849f78d8b74ea57eebbcf\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. And can I further say that if the member wants an instance as to where potential Government action that affects value creates a sense of grievance, she needs to look no further than the bill which she promoted in respect of the Kermadecs, which proposed taking away all fishing rights in respect of a total fishery management area with no compensation, under a pretence that said that you could fish but you had a total allowable catch of zero, that you could go to court but you couldn\u2019t get a remedy. I think that is a case in point as to where it is that responsible Governments look a little bit more deeply at these things than the superficiality that that member displays.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220670f2f3a0ae48829a5701e6b2fc8f2b\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: On the issue of undue influence and connectivity of cousins to Ministers, is he aware that the Scottish-M\u0101ori relationship, to the extent that the questioner raised it, includes about 10,000 people?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c876142bf5c94f12afd3940ff981f515\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Great question, cuz.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d274243acb1d4be0890dce1f4adf842c\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: No\u2014ha, ha! My friend quipped, \u201CGreat question, cuz.\u201D But I do note that this is in a similar vein to last week when it was alleged that I had a conflict because I was at one stage a friend\u2014not true\u2014at one stage a business associate\u2014not true\u2014at one stage, had been the person\u2019s lawyer\u2014not true. And even if they had been true, there would not have been a conflict of interest. [Interruption] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002209d0d7bb5d5141a3bfad0a147ddfe486\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Question No. 3.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002283d8407e668d46dd95d4b4e9d363395c\u0022\u003EProvincial Growth Fund\u2014Benefits\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022 data-id=\u0022826b716ec7fd4d838b19aa5ce302c272\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022826b716ec7fd4d838b19aa5ce302c272\u0022\u003EJENNY MARCROFT (NZ First)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: What reports has he seen regarding the Provincial Growth Fund?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022 data-id=\u0022db4ea33d80be4733bb0541d5c023becc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022db4ea33d80be4733bb0541d5c023becc\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Deputy Prime Minister) \u003C/span\u003Eon behalf of the Minister for Regional Economic Development: On behalf of the Minister, I have seen an International Monetary Fund (IMF) Article IV report which says, amongst other things, that the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF) is making our economy productive, stable, and inclusive, that it will relieve pressure on major urban areas by encouraging movement of population into the regions, and, furthermore, should ensure project selection that helps regions to benefit from income gains more in line with the major urban centres.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eeb91962e18b46a4b18fabb984df19c9\u0022\u003EJenny Marcroft\u003C/span\u003E: What challenges did the IMF report highlight?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002228ab2b13d11345be9c3c4ada25de8ff7\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s a superb question. Could I just say that it highlighted something that we were aware of as a new Government: significant shortfalls in infrastructure investment\u2014to be precise, 0.3 percent of GDP per year. It pointed out how dangerous that was for the economy and, of course, it\u2019s got credibility because it was part-written by Grant Johnston, of the IMF nowadays but formerly John Key\u2019s economic adviser.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224479c80532774aa3a3d58c3871a3bc83\u0022\u003EJenny Marcroft\u003C/span\u003E: How can the PGF help to meet these challenges?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224bfa8fce15704b9898b60b169f18da24\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: My colleague Shane Jones, the champion of the regions, is well aware of those challenges. The Government, unlike the last one, is not prepared to stand idly by while productivity stagnates and infrastructure falls into disrepair. Can I just say that the Provincial Growth Fund so far has invested in high-tech, high-value industries such as clean energy, food innovation, and value-added wood processing\u2014to name just a few.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00220a7ae41ff5214515a12cfa42307f1365\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 6 to Minister, 4 July\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022 data-id=\u002272c7732b2afc447a88e135289b88a5a0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002272c7732b2afc447a88e135289b88a5a0\u0022\u003EJAMI-LEE ROSS (National\u2014Botany):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I hope you can indulge me for a moment, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225abf4913b59b495b8f12f23f658f25bd\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the member\u2019s going to get to a point of order really quickly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022761bf7aaf979496c803ce91b1228f712\u0022\u003EJAMI-LEE ROSS\u003C/span\u003E: Yesterday, we had an exchange where I sought leave for a document I was successfully able to table to be published under the authority of the House. I wish to bring to your attention the Parliamentary Privilege Act, namely section 10(2)(d), which does enable a document that\u2019s communicated under the House\u2019s authority to be a proceeding in Parliament. I therefore wish to seek leave for the document I tabled yesterday entitled Salary and Allowance Validation to be published under the authority of the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225f115286bac64a88a166edbe9dbd759b\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: OK. Now, I just want to check: this is the same document that was tabled yesterday, which is headed Salary and Allowance Validation: Confidential Legally Privileged. Is that the same document?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227eb63f42158c446eae70b3375b133965\u0022\u003EJAMI-LEE ROSS\u003C/span\u003E: Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229f9d6cfae91d456e9349f46f4fa9d7c7\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Whose document is it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022116673a624a94801b483ad89e4e9ceb2\u0022\u003EJAMI-LEE ROSS\u003C/span\u003E: It was a document that was prepared for the Counties Manukau District Health Board.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dc7c1645ec22433295ab6bbc49a9ed7d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The question is: is there any objection to this document being published? There is objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00229973ad9878964942868e0d2a0174432b\u0022\u003EHealth Services\u2014Counties Manukau District Health Board Review\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022 data-id=\u00224f75fba238bd4e999ba9bafb9577c8c2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224f75fba238bd4e999ba9bafb9577c8c2\u0022\u003EJAMI-LEE ROSS (National\u2014Botany)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Health: Does the Beattie Varley review of financial matters at the Counties Manukau District Health Board include reviewing the authorisation of remuneration or allowances of a former DHB senior executive; if so, was the review raised with him by Rabin Rabindran at their meeting on 29 March 2018?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022 data-id=\u00221634f6dd94cf454ea1ffae21f96eb963\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221634f6dd94cf454ea1ffae21f96eb963\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK (Minister of Health):\u003C/span\u003E As the member is aware, I have not been provided with a copy of the Beattie Varley report, which is still being finalised, and neither has my office. I\u2019m advised that remuneration and allowances are within the scope of the review. The focus of my 29 March meeting with Rabin Rabindran was the state of buildings at the Counties Manukau District Health Board (DHB), including problems with rot and mould due to years of under-investment. My recollection is that the review was raised in passing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c1087343cf0d4257a78fc85772c04b53\u0022\u003EJami-Lee Ross\u003C/span\u003E: Can he confirm that in addition to Rabin Rabindran, Dr Lester Levy, the Auditor-General, and former audit committee chairman Mark Darrow all wrote to him raising the review of the Counties Manukau District Health Board audit?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eaf4b3c17eb74a62b3749cc836cb3233\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: I can confirm that I received a number of people\u2019s views on the situation at Counties Manukau, and that\u2019s why I agreed to the process of investigation that was pursued, and, of course, I was assured by officials that an appropriate process was in place and that they would report back to me at an appropriate time, and I don\u2019t see it as appropriate for a Minister to interfere in that process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002205e70645c56f40f096d2963120d6312e\u0022\u003EJo Luxton\u003C/span\u003E: What other matters were discussed with Rabin Rabindran at the 29 March meeting?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b6447bbd4e314890917548708f8cff4e\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: As well as the multiple building issues, we discussed the DHB\u2019s rising forecast deficits. Like many DHBs, Counties Manukau has been struggling in the face of years of underfunding. That\u2019s why in Budget 2018 we put an extra $66 million into Counties Manukau\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223d11c6540ac445cba2d979d7a4f55365\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! That is enough.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229cb95a31a34642abac58000c33499c84\u0022\u003EJami-Lee Ross\u003C/span\u003E: Is he aware of notes from Rabin Rabindran of his meeting with the Minister where Mr Rabindran wrote, \u201CI inquired about the review, which I understood had gone to the Minister\u2019s office, and wondered why it had not been released. I did not get a clear answer but the Minister started saying there are other issues, such as the number of people employed at the DHB.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ba751e82e31a41369b22b407eb3ed798\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: I can\u2019t recall whether I\u2019ve seen those exact notes, and I certainly note that my recollection of some of those events would be different to Mr Rabindran\u2019s, but I do think it\u2019s important that while this matter is being investigated, speculation is not helpful. In fact, the State Services Commission today has put out a report saying that ongoing speculation on matters relating to Counties Manukau is extremely unfair to Mr McKernan and people should not jump to conclusions. It also says that, in the meantime, people should step back and let the process run its course. Ongoing commentary risks compromising that process, and I think the member needs to consider that matter.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022516253232ab7473981b8e726c8054e4d\u0022\u003EJami-Lee Ross\u003C/span\u003E: Has he ever taken an opportunity, after all of those individuals raised the serious financial management issues with him, to actually read the district health board\u2019s regional internal audit report to find out exactly what\u2019s been happening in his portfolio?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022032215e6a7074ccaa8a73a764198158d\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: The officials are running a process around this. Ongoing speculation is unhelpful, as I\u2019ve told the member, because natural justice is something that ought to be able to run its course here. I have had no evidence presented to me that suggests conflicts of interest have not been well managed, and I ask the member to seriously consider whether it is appropriate to drag senior public servants\u2019 names through the mud when no evidence has been presented.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229a040d48241e4d7995b7ea68d85c0df9\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: When these calamitous events that have been brought to this House everyday were happening, who was the Government?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e7846257ea2949388045e75c675ac578\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: Many of the events that have been described in this House occurred, of course, during the period that the previous Government was in office. I find it somewhat bewildering that the first allegation that member opposite brought to the House was that I was trying to cover up for activities that happened under their Government\u2019s watch.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002258a1d76da09d4ab384dca136e8a68190\u0022\u003EJami-Lee Ross\u003C/span\u003E: Given he hasn\u2019t read the audit documents that he was advised about by multiple parties, that contained the name of the senior public official, how can the public have confidence in him that he\u2019s across the detail of his portfolio and doing his job?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220829400795f64286b485151c81490239\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: When we\u2019re talking about conflicts of interest here, it\u2019s worth noting that the recruitment of the Acting Director-General was the responsibility of the State Services Commission, that any conflicts of interest would have been raised during the recruitment process, and that the State Services Commissioner was aware of investigations into financial matters at Counties Manukau before he recruited the previous Acting Director-General, and I would advise that member to consider seriously the statement that the State Services Commissioner has put out, which indicates that people should step back and let the process take its course, because ongoing commentary risks compromising that process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002282e6e08c040740edb8255e28c4b6fd95\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 2 to Minister\u2014Amended Answer\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u0022cb7b1e8cc615419593c267f2c2812ac1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cb7b1e8cc615419593c267f2c2812ac1\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Associate Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E In my answer to the primary question, I said that the submission from Te \u0100rai to the Finance and Expenditure Committee was received on 15 March\u2014it was 15 February.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022048c486d29814006a180741f1f543dcf\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The Minister might also like to say that the select committee sought submissions, not the Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223b85d8cbedf34c30a0c1a1d7029c8690\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: Fine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a8e4086d73524039a80486f7083ec265\u0022\u003EGovernment Financial Position\u2014Reports\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022 data-id=\u002245fd81c7b08d4c239600e0d362e0e6ce\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002245fd81c7b08d4c239600e0d362e0e6ce\u0022\u003EDr DEBORAH RUSSELL (Labour\u2014New Lynn)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: What recent reports has he received on the strength of the Government\u2019s finances?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022 data-id=\u0022159116a40b0e433a80a746773412b2ee\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022159116a40b0e433a80a746773412b2ee\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E Treasury today released the Government\u2019s financial statements for the 11 months to 31 May 2018. They show the coalition Government is sticking to our commitment to run the books sustainably and responsibly, with surpluses, and keeping expenses under control. Core Crown tax revenue was in line with forecasts, at $73.5 billion, while expenses of $73.018 billion were 0.6 percent below forecast. Treasury said there was some variance within the sources of revenue and expenditure due to timing issues, which are set to reverse out in June, putting the accounts back in line with Budget forecasts.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221d34a69f79d942ea93e90ee52c2c5a9d\u0022\u003EDr Deborah Russell\u003C/span\u003E: What do these results mean for the Government\u2019s surplus?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002217752840c8c347f1aa32de986b194c8d\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: The monthly variation of expenses contributed to the operating balance before gains and losses being a surplus of $5.228 billion in the 11 months, which was $447 million\u2014or 9.3 percent\u2014above the Budget forecast. Before anyone gets too excited, as with revenue and expenses, much of this variance is likely to reverse out next month. But I would like to note one comment from the head Government accountant, who said that \u201CSource deductions are likely to remain above forecast to the end of the year.\u201D Some members might desire an interpretation of that, and the best explanation came this morning from one of New Zealand\u2019s leading business journalists, with his headline that \u201CBooming employment market gives Crown accounts another boost\u201D. In other words, the labour market is stronger than Treasury expected in May.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223b3c93d8a2d84789b77cd8fe0f75af15\u0022\u003EDr Deborah Russell\u003C/span\u003E: Why is the Government taking the approach it is to fiscal management?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223128c5ff0a954343a79b7efb73240cff\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: We have committed to responsible management of the Government\u2019s books. We understand that it is important to run sustainable surpluses in the good times so that we have money set aside for any rainy day. We also have a responsibility to future generations. That\u2019s why this Government\u2019s economic plan includes not only responsible fiscal management but forward-looking, growth-friendly policies that the IMF liked so much this week, such as the R \u0026amp; D tax incentive, the Provincial Growth Fund, significant investment in education and training, the Green Investment Fund, and our record investment in land transport infrastructure that we announced this week.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224c83dd48481044e8a0c2989fd8d24e9b\u0022\u003EKiwiBuild\u2014Eligibility\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022 data-id=\u00223184230c074746b9b76d919611000d18\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223184230c074746b9b76d919611000d18\u0022\u003EHon AMY ADAMS (National\u2014Selwyn)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Has he seen reports on his KiwiBuild eligibility criteria today that stated, \u201CNeedy families who could really use the help will be left out while a couple of doctors making $80,000 each will happily move into a nice new home\u201D; if so, does he consider his eligibility criteria will ensure that KiwiBuild homes go to those who are most in need?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u0022503f3509492649b1ba8f5f067590ca5c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022503f3509492649b1ba8f5f067590ca5c\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Minister of Housing and Urban Development):\u003C/span\u003E I haven\u2019t seen that report, but I do consider that the KiwiBuild eligibility criteria ensure that homes will be bought by the families most in need, in three ways. First, by excluding investors we ensure the homes go to first-home buyers; (2), by setting an income cap at $180,000, we exclude the very well-off while ensuring that families such as teachers, tradies, and young professionals, whose homeownership has plunged in the last decade, can once again have a chance at owning a home; and, (3), by selling at a fixed price and using a ballot system everyone will have the same chance. Those on lower incomes will not be out-bid by those on higher incomes, as they are in the open market.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002234ca3f80275a4282a7fb0147fdda042e\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Does he realise that his income eligibility criteria, that includes households with incomes up to $180,000, allows households that are in the 15 percent most wealthy in New Zealand to become eligible for KiwiBuild?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002288b99b26cd4b46339da81a4ece014e39\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: I do realise that, and in setting the eligibility cap we looked at the data and saw that the greatest fall in homeownership in the past decade has been in the $80,000 to roughly $180,000 income range. This income range also comprises half of families with children, and these are the young families who less than a generation ago would have realistically expected they would be able to own their own home.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c10f123a86284beab466ea9dcb54519c\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Supplementary.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022447e1b4b35bb4adfb41da09dcf5240aa\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Supplementary question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bdb2d826ddb34042ad0b9e9ba4bc789b\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Is the real reason\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022da5dbc6c17e74c018ed7ea083dca97c2\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The Rt Hon Winston Peters.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002295d7875e6d284ccd8405c5e892c03085\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f457ad7ce6584147a7f3db09c6c8b183\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: I beg your pardon, who have you called?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224e6b5e0a45c745e782e3ad4676d4f58d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, sorry\u2014I called the Rt Hon Winston Peters.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d315700f6b9f4159a25ba1645226011d\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: How many submissions has he received from Judith Collins on this matter of housing, and how many has he received from someone who\u2019s taken her place while she\u2019s temporarily overseas\u2014I think, namely Ms Adams? Who\u2019s asked the most questions in the past?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022be11d039802047d7a9739e1221ab53cf\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Order! The Minister doesn\u2019t have responsibility for members asking questions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b8127508e2d248d0b853f9db485273b6\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Is the real reason the income caps have been set at more than double the median household income that he now accepts that he has failed to build houses that will be affordable for truly middle-income earners so he\u2019s had to cast the net to include virtually every first-home buyer to ensure he can get the few houses he\u2019s building sold?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022530575bdff05476ea57be54fb83847c9\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: The real reason for the setting of the eligibility criteria is that we\u2019ve inherited a housing crisis that has dispossessed even the sons and daughters of the middle class who have worked hard, who earn good money, but who in our country\u2019s biggest city find themselves completely shut out of homeownership.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f677db8b-66c5-4794-953c-bdf7aa425710\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b8188ca8a66746e795a84edb6b7e8b7c\u0022\u003EMarja Lubeck\u003C/span\u003E: Who would miss out if the income cap was lowered or set at the same level as the KiwiSaver HomeStart grant?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227f3b0286f2d9480e8cfa6682600e2922\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: A couple of teachers with around five years\u2019 experience may have an income in the $150,000 range. The Government was not prepared to set a cap so low that it would exclude hard-working teachers, tradies, and young professionals who now find themselves locked out of the Auckland housing market.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002246e70e464a7e410e972523e623342863\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Will buyers who are beneficiaries of family trusts that own residential property be eligible to apply for a KiwiBuild home?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c2171ca92a504e569ac1b9efa7131afc\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I don\u2019t think that someone with assets\u2014considerable assets\u2014who would have the pick of the homes on the market will choose a modest starter home and go through a ballot process. I just don\u2019t think that\u2019s realistic.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d56f1e30b0344b3788682975e59e4069\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. It was a very straight question\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e775df432a334be4a894982d7e98d633\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: It was. The member can ask\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022171c52b6c48f40658d565fc03e594d15\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014asking for a particular factual matter. The member should tell us if he doesn\u2019t know what his policy says.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220842c137bed84ff1a2f3a49ca0cd04d8\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: It\u2019s not our intention to place further restrictions on the eligibility criteria. We don\u2019t believe that the scenario that the member faces is at all realistic.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f677db8b-66c5-4794-953c-bdf7aa425710\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a6a4bd25ff3a4feda0d8385873893cb9\u0022\u003EMarja Lubeck\u003C/span\u003E: Why did the Government choose to adopt a higher income limit than the KiwiSaver HomeStart grant?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002270246108d45f435d8e0bb78b4b3da73b\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: The KiwiSaver HomeStart grant has not worked in Auckland and Queenstown. For example, less than 9 percent of HomeStart grants are for homes purchased in Auckland, grossly disproportionate to the number of Auckland first-home buyers. The cap is so low that even with the grant available, families struggle to find a home that they can buy. We knew that we needed to make sure that KiwiBuild actually responds to families in need.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220cf6bfc6519a4c8d92cff656c2f4a1d1\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: When answers given on his behalf said that properties could be sold directly off the plans to some buyers without these properties going through a ballot, which buyers are going to get this fast-track option?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022530250b4fadc4f7f8b7e343cf5b2e08e\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: In the planning for the sales process for KiwiBuild, we have retained the flexibility for later on in the KiwiBuild process\u2014perhaps years three, four, or later than that, when supply will match or exceed demand\u2014in situations where it won\u2019t be necessary to put a ballot in place. In that case, in that instance, it would be the obvious thing to do to allow a direct sale. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022845176c4c4f6409aa4ffa9e51400e949\u0022\u003ECrown/M\u0101ori Relations\u2014Iwi Consultation\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022 data-id=\u0022d30c03d40ab54458aa130a6ef7e6579e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d30c03d40ab54458aa130a6ef7e6579e\u0022\u003EHon NIKKI KAYE (National\u2014Auckland Central):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave to have this question held over until the next sitting day as an additional question, until the Minister is able to answer it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u00224f9d19286b44469fbb01d7831daf7172\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224f9d19286b44469fbb01d7831daf7172\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Is there any objection to that process? Yes, there is. Does the member still want to proceed? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022 data-id=\u0022a1942f30d26a4aaf946678c014ac0b9e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a1942f30d26a4aaf946678c014ac0b9e\u0022\u003EHon NIKKI KAYE (National\u2014Auckland Central):\u003C/span\u003E Yes. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u0022e53f5c90ab33484d804b5fa882b764d3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e53f5c90ab33484d804b5fa882b764d3\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The Hon Nikki Kaye. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022 data-id=\u0022f835d85a87db4384a91cf0c9dd1cf015\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f835d85a87db4384a91cf0c9dd1cf015\u0022\u003EHon NIKKI KAYE (National\u2014Auckland Central)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Crown/M\u0101ori Relations: Does he stand by his statement regarding Crown and M\u0101ori relations that \u201CThis is the start of a new way of working. We\u2019ve got to make sure we don\u2019t make mistakes we\u2019ve made in the past\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u002276bced7603114975a9a849a581276984\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002276bced7603114975a9a849a581276984\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Crown/M\u0101ori Relations: Yes. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f8919c7c8aee42f5b333254afbefc100\u0022\u003EHon Nikki Kaye\u003C/span\u003E: Does he think that the principle of a Government dismissing a Waitangi Tribunal claim within hours of it being made public is the start of a new way of working and good for Crown and M\u0101ori relations? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ca5ad9df55a44dfda619055b7199ebe7\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: The Government has not dismissed the claim.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022578b8f22ae384d75a600fb004fda2fab\u0022\u003EHon Nikki Kaye\u003C/span\u003E: Does he believe that this Government has at all times had adequate consultation and has not breached the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi on education policies, and can he guarantee that no mistakes have been made by his Government on this issue? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d5d9883f685b4467895d67a96c0b7a35\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: The Government has a huge range of activities happening. In so far as the Minister has responsibility for that matter, yes. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dad46bd0fa74462a92ecf6ac7300dad5\u0022\u003EHon Nikki Kaye\u003C/span\u003E: Does he have confidence in the Iwi Chairs Forum and their relationship with the Crown, given statements made by Willie Jackson that he is not interested in iwi leaders\u2019 concerns; Shane Jones, who has said he wouldn\u2019t talk to the Iwi Leaders Forum before Halley\u2019s Comet comes back; and comments by Sir Toby Curtis that there\u2019s been a lack of consultation on education policies? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022897a58617abe4b1b9b6cb952753e1a47\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, I have no responsibility for the Iwi Chairs Forum. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002257fb18c2239542fe9cf7f648d7616131\u0022\u003EHon Nikki Kaye\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. My question\u2014and if you go to have a look at the transcript\u2014was actually confidence in their relationship with the Crown, not the Iwi Chairs Forum. It was very specific, and that is his job. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dd99a72a8483497e988a6da42e2c2f87\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think the Minister can have another go. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002247b22b9ae7c544458cb52dcf0855280c\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: I have no ministerial responsibility for that organisation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022be8465fa07ad4a6c9e097a8f73631ef3\u0022\u003EHon Nikki Kaye\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. This Minister\u2019s whole responsibility is around relationships between the Crown and M\u0101ori, so if what he is saying, and the way that I worded my question was incredibly specific\u2014does he have confidence in the relationship between the Iwi Chairs Forum and the Crown; confidence in that relationship. If he is going to say\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c9dd768290c84c8eacd1099fe34ae556\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I think what he has just said is that the Minister for Crown/M\u0101ori Relations does not have responsibility for that relationship. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220623bf8542c348139be24856e0e8b247\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. That was not the question the member asked. The member asked whether I had confidence in the organisation. She tried to rephrase the question\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dc81c7617281454f9ce0fa01377de6f4\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, no. The\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228b533f04bc35457695c6703a3e070c58\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014but the original question as I heard it\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224cbfc658a23d4817a6bfaeeb7ba9d695\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m going to ask Nikki Kaye to ask her question again\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222892777ec44b4427830803e31e5dfedd\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: Exactly as she asked it the first time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223a7f32e5c6104a84afcdf823b2b8fd3e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Exactly as she asked it the first time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022117ccf4bfe394a9db12eba118c4af6c0\u0022\u003EHon Nikki Kaye\u003C/span\u003E: Does he have confidence in the Iwi Chairs Forum and their relationship with the Crown, given statements made by Willie Jackson that he is not interested in iwi leaders\u2019 concerns; Shane Jones, who has said he wouldn\u2019t talk to the Iwi Leaders Forum before Halley\u2019s Comet comes back; and comments by Sir Toby Curtis that there has been a lack of consultation on education policies? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227b418ca1243a47b0805202e42723b4dd\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: All right. I\u2019m not going to require the Minister to answer it again. He did answer it the first time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d10c1-43b7-41d9-9f5c-0c313f70e625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d6acbc91592e4ac3a2a65582fa5b517b\u0022\u003EHon Nikki Kaye\u003C/span\u003E: Will he take responsibility for the issues raised by a member of the Iwi Chairs Forum in the Waitangi Tribunal that there\u2019s been no consultation with M\u0101ori leaders on the review of the education system; and is part of the reason for this that fellow Ministers keep bagging the Iwi Chairs Forum and other M\u0101ori leaders, and that\u2019s why there is a claim in the Waitangi Tribunal? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a789eeed53b04c42870a2dac460b2ccb\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: I absolutely reject the premise of the member\u2019s question. In fact, the education work plan involves extensive consultation with all New Zealanders. There were many M\u0101ori represented at the education summits that were held in Christchurch and Auckland, including people who hold relatively senior positions within iwi around the country. This Government is interested in hearing the views of all New Zealanders on education. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022595a2a5c3c534107989aa0e778e068b7\u0022\u003EKiwiBuild\u2014Eligibility and Demand\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002295945ace-51e8-4dbc-a0e3-c19f4ed99ed9\u0022 data-id=\u0022b7b889d1837041e6a7a570686eb28c64\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002295945ace-51e8-4dbc-a0e3-c19f4ed99ed9\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b7b889d1837041e6a7a570686eb28c64\u0022\u003EANAHILA KANONGATA\u2019A-SUISUIKI (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: Who will be able to enter the ballot to purchase a KiwiBuild home?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u002286257f5d0e1140a385cdb5b1f3111c07\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002286257f5d0e1140a385cdb5b1f3111c07\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Minister of Housing and Urban Development):\u003C/span\u003E With the first KiwiBuild homes on track to be completed shortly, and many more in the pipeline, yesterday I announced the KiwiBuild unit has opened its doors and invited potential KiwiBuild homebuyers to express their interest. I also announced the criteria these potential buyers will have to meet. They\u2019ll have to be first-home buyers or second-chancers; New Zealand citizens, permanent residents, or those who ordinarily reside in New Zealand; intend to own and live in the home for at least three years; have an income below $120,000 for sole purchasers and $180,000 for couples. All eligible buyers will have an equal chance to own a KiwiBuild home at cost price through a ballot system.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002295945ace-51e8-4dbc-a0e3-c19f4ed99ed9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c8e88ecfc48342d49f6cf1072f3999e8\u0022\u003EAnahila Kanongata\u2019a-Suisuiki\u003C/span\u003E: Why has the Government set the criteria it has?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a6aa08a736a047f882812f1b1f48a70c\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: KiwiBuild is about restoring the opportunity of homeownership to Kiwi families. We\u2019ve aimed to strike a balance. We\u2019ve excluded the very well-off while ensuring that families who a decade ago would have realistically expected to own their own home but have been locked out by the huge increase in house prices that happened in Auckland and Queenstown over the last nine years\u2014we want those people to have a chance to own their own home.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002295945ace-51e8-4dbc-a0e3-c19f4ed99ed9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ad4b40e4a29941a4be1a217bb072f48f\u0022\u003EAnahila Kanongata\u2019a-Suisuiki\u003C/span\u003E: Why has the Government set the income limits at $120,000 for an individual and $180,000 for a couple?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022112b78bf164d4e02b30148e284a7a068\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: A generation of young New Zealanders who have good jobs are priced out of homeownership. It\u2019s a sign of just how bad it\u2019s got for those families that in places like Auckland, couples with good jobs, like two teachers with five years\u2019 experience earning, let\u2019s say, $160,000 a year are locked out of homeownership. In fact, since 2007, the greatest fall in homeownership has been for families earning between $80,000 and $180,000.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002295945ace-51e8-4dbc-a0e3-c19f4ed99ed9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221ef488c3b3554d4cab2bf4dea2416d74\u0022\u003EAnahila Kanongata\u2019a-Suisuiki\u003C/span\u003E: What is the Government doing to support families who may not be able to afford to buy their own home?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c70ec12a27b34b8da1164a6de23b6aef\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: We understand that there are a lot of people who would love to have a crack at homeownership but simply cannot afford to take on a mortgage. That\u2019s why we\u2019re working on a shared equity scheme that will give them that chance. We\u2019re also implementing reforms that will make life better for renters, and we\u2019re building thousands of extra State houses.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002295945ace-51e8-4dbc-a0e3-c19f4ed99ed9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a615edba29444dd9a688ebd3a4c25ad3\u0022\u003EAnahila Kanongata\u2019a-Suisuiki\u003C/span\u003E: What interest has there been in purchasing a KiwiBuild home?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022966af8ba9cb14acb8a2c4d83da45efcd\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: I said that the KiwiBuild unit was opening their doors, but, in fact, Kiwis have smashed the door down. Over 19,000\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002251ebf7aedcfa4836bde895c46d1294db\u0022\u003EHon Dr David Clark\u003C/span\u003E: How many?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002208efc4ed8be144e2ad3cf293e5148b21\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014over 19,000\u2014New Zealanders have registered their interest in the last 24 hours. This just shows how many young New Zealanders are desperate for a chance at homeownership, and as KiwiBuild ramps up, we look forward to seeing these families buy and move into their own homes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00222c414ef38b4948f6b81aca800d0983f1\u0022\u003EPolice\u2014Appointment of Deputy Commissioner of Police\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u00223182fd24c4ae4f67808b09bf755c5149\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223182fd24c4ae4f67808b09bf755c5149\u0022\u003ECHRIS BISHOP (National\u2014Hutt South)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Police: Does he stand by all his statements and actions regarding the appointment of Wally Haumaha to be Deputy Commissioner of Police?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u0022bf794ae3e30345eb841344fd783cc4fd\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bf794ae3e30345eb841344fd783cc4fd\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Acting Minister of Police)\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, in the context in which they were made and taken.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f1e9b7f300f84bddb2481e5f6ce69b6f\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Did the Rt Hon Winston Peters disclose to him during the appointment process of Mr Haumaha that he had once sought selection for the Rotorua electorate as a New Zealand First candidate?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ec9bbe054e1b4e7899e0521df3cb25fd\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Order! I\u2019m just considering the responsibility of the Minister for the actions of the Acting\u2014I\u2019ll let him answer. It is very marginal.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222e689510287845c2a4facbcb603fa5bd\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: No.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eb7603d9a1ec4719a8a4cdf20d1baa6d\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Why did Cabinet appoint the Hon Tracey Martin to initiate a Government inquiry into the process of the appointment around Mr Haumaha, given she is a New Zealand First Party MP and Minister and someone with long and deep links to the New Zealand First Party?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d2b496e8e48a44ce869143d64cdcb184\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I am just going to seek some advice from the Acting Prime Minister on this question. My understanding is that a Cabinet decision was not one that was made by the Minister of Police\u2014can I seek some\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a2bec4f0ef57468ba57cf691a5f3f357\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Speaker, that\u2019s correct.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b616db4385654515aa5d0210c944fa06\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: So, therefore, there\u2019s not responsibility of the Minister of Police for that Cabinet decision. In fact, you know, any good process would have him not being involved in it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002211fb622994bf416cb8f25732ec08956e\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Why should the public have confidence in any inquiry led by the Hon Tracey Martin into the appointment of Mr Haumaha as Deputy Commissioner of Police, when she is a New Zealand First Party MP and Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222750420b12c14cfc84ce24fe836019f8\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, the member can resume his seat. The question is very clear about his statements and actions. The appointment by Cabinet of Tracey Martin to oversee from a Cabinet point of view an inquiry is not an action or a statement of the Minister of Police.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002246a58fb3fb5e4005a0b03b8ddf113d4d\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The Minister of Police has made comments about the specific Cabinet inquiry that Cabinet has ordered into the appointment of Mr Haumaha. So surely that brings the inquiry into the bailiwick of\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220e8a232b9dc1485b98ed4ecb27026854\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: And if there had been reference to that in the question, then it might well have been allowed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022210d959b808e41e9b59025f12619bec9\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Why has he expressed public support for the Cabinet inquiry led by the Hon Tracey Martin into the appointment of Mr Haumaha as Deputy Commissioner of Police, when Tracey Martin is a New Zealand First MP and Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022634b64e46e9b4239a7f6546283735442\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: Cabinet decisions are a matter of Cabinet collective responsibility, and, as a Cabinet Minister, I stand by them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022705bf1a172d8405a921928d8fcd3f3bc\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The question was pretty specific. Why has he expressed\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002287ed25c215ed4ae396b0983842c2442a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the member couldn\u2019t get a more specific answer than you just got.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002298b508c483624c7692bddb95669fbfc4\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Why is the Minister hiding behind the cloak of Cabinet collective responsibility in order to maintain the idea that the public should have confidence in an inquiry into a person with New Zealand First connections led by a New Zealand First Party Cabinet Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d122f105fa8847baa8947441377a4bab\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The member got it wrong in the first phrase. That made the whole question out of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002248c9add594e74ed99df39c7af1d025f8\u0022\u003EElectoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill\u2014Consistency with Bill of Rights 1688\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022 data-id=\u0022d76b300c711d4fbeb094f0a0ced3fd19\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d76b300c711d4fbeb094f0a0ced3fd19\u0022\u003EHon Dr NICK SMITH (National\u2014Nelson)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Justice: Does he stand by his answer on Tuesday that the Government continues to support the principle established 330 years ago with the Bill of Rights and codified unanimously by this Parliament in 2014 that voters alone get to dismiss MPs, and his statement, \u201CNo leader of any political party represented in Parliament, under the Electoral Integrity Amendment Bill, has the power to remove a member of Parliament\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u002254760c119e614a739d5eaf28187fb556\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002254760c119e614a739d5eaf28187fb556\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Justice):\u003C/span\u003E Yes and yes, and I would just hope that that member fully understands the full historical context of the 1688 Bill of Rights, knowing that it was a charter for anti-Catholicism.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229d9116dc14534e2b8a42abd602d41223\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with the statement by his justice officials: \u201CThe bill enables party leaders to remove MPs from Parliament.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ed05422fa2794064a778d58cbe311029\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I\u2019m really just looking for guidance. I was briefed this morning by officials who had attended a closed session of the Justice Committee about actions that were taken by the honourable member who just asked the question, in relation to his confidence in them. That caused considerable consternation, and it appears to be that that member is alluding to the statements he has made in that closed session in the select committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c2a998ecbec44dd7b7d73ace4dcd20ae\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Can I ask the Hon Dr Nick Smith whether the quotation he used came from a closed session of the committee, that has not yet been reported to the House?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bcc360ce905c4a37b9787c206440251b\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: No, but the statement was made by his officials in an open session earlier in consideration of the bill. So the statement stands\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fe8ea605919e48889585458ccba433e3\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, no, Andrew will answer the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a2a69dfe53054a3aab540a6a5b7c381a\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: If you could repeat the question, sorry.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002266f59ef56f9842bd9c3c90a81c883833\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with the statement by his justice officials: \u201CThe bill enables party leaders to remove MPs from Parliament.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d4bf3ada1aec418f80f6d72309eb681b\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: I refer to the text of the bill, which is very clear, which is that in order for a member to have their seat vacated under that bill, it requires a number of steps, including a vote of two-thirds of the relevant MP\u2019s caucus. It is not the decision of the leader of a political party alone.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229e70b6e94db7405ab07f2ee02f96b027\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: And I probably should have ruled the question out, because of the obvious fact that officials do not give evidence to select committees.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002259535cde0da141c39f97e79304ffe617\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: They still make statements, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002296718a92bb2848a3a577ae552ee8c004\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, but they don\u2019t give evidence, as the member said.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e37edbd672c449b696a5350413db3c78\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: How can he state his bill does not give the power to a party leader to dismiss an MP when the explanatory note for his bill says, and I quote, \u201CThe bill \u2026 provides for a vacancy to occur if the member\u2019s party leader gives [the appropriate notice to the speaker]\u201D and further states that \u201CThe giving of notice \u2026 is at the [party] leader\u2019s discretion,\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022af6df3fd39504f21b84e1e3b716dd16c\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: The passages that that member refers to are correct on their face, but they are not the full explanation of the content of the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022807922657aba4e48a17b572405f2ecd1\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: How can he state that he supports the 330-year-old principle that voters alone get to dismiss MPs when his bill enables a party leader with the two-thirds support of his caucus to dismiss an MP?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cfbb616e67764ab7ae99087b7dcc3307\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill is totally consistent with the principle established 330 years ago in the anti-papist Bill of Rights.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223275e9651b7c426c9472e3a03d6b5fad\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: Can the Minister name any other parliamentary democracy, that he would want New Zealand to match up to in its standards, that provides for a power for party leaders to remove a member of Parliament?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002289fcf581b8034926b12e0ca6a899c548\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: I can name at least one other country that has a provision that allows a process by which parliamentary members of a political party can express no confidence and cause a vacancy of a fellow member\u2019s seat, and that is Japan.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221a6ce7ae70e74f62801e7be78039c22f\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Given that the justice Minister has made reference to proceedings in the select committee this morning, I seek leave of the House to\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002233b2930bb1304e0db7907d8c70c4ef26\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. No. The member\u2019s well out of time if the member\u2019s referring back to the beginning of this question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221069459e75df4cb8ab834fd5c025a26a\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: A member can seek leave to table a document, Mr Speaker, at any time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222b44d1b2a8784e5aad7b2ef1ca5da07d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the member may seek leave to table a document. Is it a confidential document from the select committee?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226c0f5d6ae5ff4f1a9eb8a0f04cab0f70\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: The document is the notice of motion with respect to the business of the Electoral (Integrity) Amendment Bill at the Justice Committee this morning.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229949d454043447a48adbdb646a1f8899\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: At a closed session\u2014the member may seek leave. Is there any objection? Yes, there is.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e96508d4d86142e7abbbb8bbca947e26\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I did wait till the end of the supplementaries\u2014but earlier on in this question you have referred to the question\u2014I think you used the words \u201Cprobably out of order\u201D because it referenced evidence provided by officials and officials don\u2019t give evidence. My submission to you, Mr Speaker, is that that in itself doesn\u2019t rule the question out of order, but it certainly gives licence to the Minister to answer in a certain way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022da5901c02bd346c3853c5568ab4fd184\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The member is correct. I should have asked the member to rephrase it correctly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002255b795d38d8648389585d5547788d35f\u0022\u003ETertiary Institutions\u2014Financial Position\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022 data-id=\u00229aca67fd756b40d2a7a399b1576be039\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229aca67fd756b40d2a7a399b1576be039\u0022\u003EJAMIE STRANGE (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Education: What action, if any, has he taken to address challenges in the institutes of technology and polytechnics sector?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u002205ef5bf36c7b47b5b257b496a1aba745\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002205ef5bf36c7b47b5b257b496a1aba745\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E Yesterday, I announced that the Tertiary Education Commission will be consulting on the option to appoint a commissioner to Unitec and dissolve its council. This is not an action that has been taken lightly. Unitec is in extreme financial difficulty and needs urgent assistance. They have an estimated shortfall this year of nearly $20 million and another next year of nearly $30 million, despite the sale of their land. This is on top of the Government\u2019s cash bailout of $8.5 million in February for Tai Poutini Polytechnic and a write-off of $24.9 million in debt owed by them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229b98b9915abf4b37b7dbfc9ad8fd7d6f\u0022\u003EJamie Strange\u003C/span\u003E: What other institutes of technology and polytechnics are currently facing financial challenges?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b95785d431ca4e57a64f4bd27ae62680\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: In 2016/17, New Zealand saw a considerable deterioration in the finances of our institutes of technology and polytechnics. The latest data shows at the end of 2017, the Manukau Institute of Technology made a $7 million deficit, the Whitireia Community Polytechnic made a deficit of $8.4 million, Toi Ohomai Institute of Technology made a deficit of $10 million, Western Institute of Technology made a deficit of $3.6 million, and the Northland polytech made a deficit of $3.3 million, to name some of the larger ones.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aa99e939639147e7ad92f28e98e16753\u0022\u003EJamie Strange\u003C/span\u003E: What broader actions is the Government taking to address sustainability issues in the institutes of technology and polytechnics sector?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022687d37e92ed341ee9758065c6b15e219\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: The Government\u2019s taking this incredibly seriously. As I indicated, Unitec is not the only institution in the sector that faces financial difficulties, and, in fact, some quite serious financial difficulties. While some polytechnics have remained financially and educationally strong, most have struggled to adjust to the falling student numbers that occurred over recent years. These challenges are pressing and do threaten the viability of the system as a whole. We know that the institutes of technology and polytech network is vital for providing quality vocational education and training for our communities and, in particular, for supporting regional economic development. I have asked the Tertiary Education Commission to work with the sector to identify ways to address the immediate issues and to put all of our institutes of technology on a more viable footing in the longer term.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022de02aed8e2944b609ddbcbe16cacecde\u0022\u003EJustice System\u2014Transitional Housing\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022 data-id=\u0022b15636574e9f4b6ba0c60322b72a5d59\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b15636574e9f4b6ba0c60322b72a5d59\u0022\u003EHon DAVID BENNETT (National\u2014Hamilton East):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I seek leave to have this question held over as an additional question until Minister Davis is able to answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227de918d7135f41b58d4aacf556fe48b1\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Is there any objection to that? There is. Does the member want to proceed?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022 data-id=\u00223acc3e98482e448b9b8af47f8aca019a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223acc3e98482e448b9b8af47f8aca019a\u0022\u003EHon DAVID BENNETT (National\u2014Hamilton East)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Corrections: Does he stand by all his statements and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022453d13b82a424afb9bc22d1387d85a7b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022453d13b82a424afb9bc22d1387d85a7b\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister of Corrections: Yes, in the context they were made and taken.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e56da5cc1897405281b6b98deac90cc1\u0022\u003EHon David Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: When he said that \u201Crather than looking to build large-scale prisons, we want to look at alternative options like transitional housing\u201D, what criteria makes an inmate eligible for transitional housing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002293b2d25626b44c25ae3c2ed88fb4e3b2\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: That is yet to be determined.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f17da5f5236f4b27a41cc34c27878c28\u0022\u003EHon David Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: What extra security arrangements made to their placements will be put in place to ensure the public are kept safe?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c08ed177db2f4e039ffb4b9901c45772\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: That is yet to be determined.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220e9647fa3b5e4ee8be533f566f68759f\u0022\u003EHon David Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Will any category three offenders be eligible for transitional housing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bfb7dcf0ce15455fb24462756116ccb0\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: As I indicated in answer to the second supplementary question the member raised, the Government is yet to determine the criteria for access to the housing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224658e4bfae6f4ad9ba189f0185b5208c\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Tamaoho Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002210c219093bea47f2a4f51eb336d6881c\u0022\u003EIn Committee\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u0022b6949c7c03f94c9b9660e51667d8f4a6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b6949c7c03f94c9b9660e51667d8f4a6\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave for all provisions to be taken as one question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022578e78322eee41c289bc83a060642457\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022578e78322eee41c289bc83a060642457\u0022\u003EThe CHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There appears to be not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00224967ebe8d2514642b6e192b80345aaf0\u0022\u003EParts 1 to 3, Schedules 1 and 2, and clauses 1 and 2\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u0022dfb732a1e3734078bfda6404b2b90b06\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022dfb732a1e3734078bfda6404b2b90b06\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Chairman. For the benefit of the members of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho who are in the gallery, let me just take a moment to explain the process that we\u2019re doing at the moment. This is called the committee of the whole House stage.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EWe work very hard to make sure that the bill for your settlement is absolutely perfect, and, in doing that, the amazing staff of the Parliamentary Counsel Office have found some mistakes. So, with the agreement of your negotiators, we are in the process of correcting those mistakes. We have to do that at this stage of the House, and I\u2019m going to read out, sort of explain, what the changes are, and then, as I understand it from our very good friends in the National Party\u2014they said they\u2019re not going to debate these changes\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002233260f78de934474bfe0d85a9057ca75\u0022\u003EHon Christopher Finlayson\u003C/span\u003E: No.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ac17d3e50d1247ffbfc9a3dca22e4d93\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014so we will fly through this. That\u2019s the Catholic influence on that side, I might add. It explains why we don\u2019t like the 1688 Bill of Rights. And we will conclude that part, and then the House will resume and Mr Rurawhe, who is, technically, the Chair of the committee right now, will sit in the fluffy chair at the back and pick up the position as Speaker of the House, and we will then get into the final debate and, therefore, the final stage of your settlement bill. I did want to make sure that everybody was clear about that, so you\u2019re not confused. And, on that point, can I just say that the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee reported the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Claims Settlement Bill back to this House on 5 July and recommended it be passed without amendment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe bill is to comprehensively settle Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho\u2019s historical Treaty of Waitangi claims. This Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) 36\u2014\u201CSupplementary Order Paper\u201D is parliamentary language for \u201Camendment\u201D or \u201Cchange\u201D\u2014provides two minor changes to the bill. Changes set out in the Supplementary Order Paper update wording regarding the administering body of the Hunua Falls. So there are two changes. The first clarifies, in clause 52(3), that the provision relates to the Hunua Falls reserve land as defined in subclause (1). What it does is add the words \u201Cof the reserve land\u201D after the words \u201Cas if they were the administering body\u201D. And the second change is to clarify, in clause 52(9), that interests may be varied as well as renewed, by adding the words \u201C, or varying\u201D after the word \u201Crenewing\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThese are minor and technical amendments\u2014that was itself evident. They make no change to the redress package, and I\u2019d like to thank the Parliamentary Counsel Office for their thoroughness in ensuring that the bill is accurate and correct and, frankly, almost perfect\u2014in fact, it is perfect. Not only members of this committee but members of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho can be assured that they will have a perfect bill on which to proceed. On that basis, I commend this bill to the House for the two changes outlined in SOP 36.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u00228e99465f0c7c46c7841c1a5efa5b36bd\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228e99465f0c7c46c7841c1a5efa5b36bd\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (National):\u003C/span\u003E I\u2019ll just take a very brief call to endorse what the Minister has said. Parliamentary Counsel have done an excellent job on this legislation, as they do on all Treaty legislation, and we can be really proud of the work they do. And these corrections are very minor. The second point, for the benefit of the gallery, is this: he referred to the National Party as his \u201Cvery good friends\u201D. One can go too far sometimes!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 36 in the name of the Hon Andrew Little be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EAmendments agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EParts 1 to 3, schedules 1 and 2, and clauses 1 and 2 as amended agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EHouse resumed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EBill reported with amendment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EReport adopted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d6ae148e00c346fc9d3b8cd932aaa068\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u00220996d1b3053e4720b1f1fae1b28423d6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220996d1b3053e4720b1f1fae1b28423d6\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EMadam Assistant Speaker, I said before that Adrian Rurawhe would assume the Chair as Speaker, but, Madam Assistant Speaker, you have taken that role. I would like to begin by welcoming the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Claims Settlement Bill to the House today. I feel incredibly privileged to support this bill and see it through its final reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThis bill has taken many years of hard work to reach this point, and I offer my sincerest thanks to all who have been involved in it. I extend a very warm welcome to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, who are with us today. They have travelled from T\u0101maki-makau-rau and further afield to be here to be part of this celebration of this final step in this very important exercise. It is pleasing to see so many here for this purpose. I also acknowledge the representative of K\u012Bngitanga who is here today. Nau mai, haere mai. E ng\u0101 iwi, e ng\u0101 reo, e ng\u0101 mana, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the many driving forces who have lived this journey. I acknowledge the many t\u016Bpuna who are no longer with us but who stand with us in spirit as we remember the leadership and inspiration their legacies have left behind. Nanny Mere Taka, Tokoroa Pompey, Barney Kirkwood, Tiraha Ngerengere, and your t\u016Bpuna before them began this journey many years ago. They are in our thoughts today. Moe mai r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Tamaoho have been served by many strong and devoted negotiators and trustees. I also wish to acknowledge the various members of the negotiation team, starting with Ted Ng\u0101taki and Warahi Paki; the lead negotiator, Dennis Kirkwood; and the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Trust negotiation team\u2014Te Roto Jenkins, Gordon Katipa, Kiri Waitai Wilson, T\u0101mara Taka-Jones, Panetuku Rae, George Wheatley, Nick Maaka, Tori Ng\u0101taki, and Christine Herzog\u2014for their commitment to their people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThey have done Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho proud throughout their dealings with the Crown and their determination to make a difference for Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho today and in the years to come. They have continued to conduct themselves with dignity during the most difficult times of the settlement process. While all unique, their contributions to achieving a settlement will be remembered by all, and the lasting effects of their work will be felt for generations. I\u2019d also like to take this opportunity to thank the former Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations\u2014my not-quite best friend Christopher Finlayson\u2014for his work in progressing the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho settlement. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003ENegotiations are a long and complex process. This will ring true for all who have been involved in any settlement process, and Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho has been no different. The settlement process for Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho started in 2003 with the first claim lodged by Ted Ng\u0101taki, followed in 2008 with two more claims lodged by Piriwh\u0101riki Tahapeehi and Ben Katipa respectively. In April 2010, the Crown recognised the mandate of the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Trust Board to represent the people of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho in negotiating a comprehensive historical Treaty settlement. The trust and the Crown signed terms of negotiation in October 2010, and an agreement in principle was signed in December 2012. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EDuring this period, Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho also worked with T\u0101maki-makau-rau iwi to sign the Ng\u0101 Mana Whenua o T\u0101maki Makaurau collective redress deed in September 2012. I admire Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho\u2019s ability to negotiate the best settlement possible for their iwi while navigating the complex waters of collective negotiations in T\u0101maki-makau-rau. Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and the Crown initialled a deed of settlement in December 2016 and signed the deed in April 2017. The bill had its first reading in the House on 22 June 2017 and the second reading was on 3 May this year. These are significant milestones which have led to where you stand today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe relationship between Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and the Crown has been a long and sometimes fraught one. Gradual but continuous land loss, alongside many conflicts, left Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho landless, and the effects of this have been felt for generations. This is the reason we are here today. The Crown did not honour its promises to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. Prior to 1840, Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho rangatira sought to develop commercial relationships with P\u0101keh\u0101 settlers by entering into land transactions. After the signing of Te Tiriti o Waitangi in 1840, Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho continued to seek economic opportunities by selling land to the Crown. The benefits Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho expected to enjoy were not realised and, despite Crown assurances that one-tenth of land would be retained for public purposes, especially for the benefit of M\u0101ori, the Crown did not keep this promise and abandoned the policy. This is an all too familiar story for many iwi. Crown purchasing activities eventually contributed to tension and armed conflict between Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and neighbouring iwi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EIn 1863, the already fraught relationship between Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and the Crown deteriorated rapidly following the Crown declaring that M\u0101ori in the South Auckland region must swear an oath of allegiance to the Crown or vacate their settlements. The Crown did not give Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho sufficient time to understand the oath, and, despite Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho never having been in rebellion, Crown troops burnt buildings and looted property at the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho settlement at P\u014Dkeno prior to the invasion of the Waikato.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EFollowing the actions of the Crown at P\u014Dkeno, the Crown unfairly labelled Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho as rebels, evicting them from their settlements and confiscating most of their remaining lands. The Crown apology presented in the settlement to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho reflects the Crown\u2019s regret about its actions at the time. We cannot build the foundations for a positive relationship and move forward if we do not acknowledge what has happened in the past, and I\u2019d like to read now from the formal apology: \u201CThe Crown sincerely regrets unfairly labelling Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho as rebels and confiscating much of your remaining land. The Crown also unreservedly apologises for the hurt and ongoing grievance caused by the burning and looting of Pokeno. The Crown attacked the settlement prior to its invasion of Waikato despite Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho never having been in rebellion and for this [the Crown] is truly sorry.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EBy 1900, Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho had lost most of their land. Many experienced severe social and economic marginalisation and deplorable housing conditions. M\u0101ori children experienced discrimination and segregation at a State-run school in Pukekohe. Landlessness, environmental degradation, and alienation and continued failures by the Crown to honour its obligations under Te Tiriti o Waitangi have harmed successive generations of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. The Crown is deeply sorry for its actions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe settlement package set out in the bill contains an agreed historical account, Crown acknowledgments, formal apology\u2014some of which we\u2019ve just heard\u2014cultural redress, and financial and commercial redress. Through this settlement, the Crown has sought to atone for the past injustices it inflicted upon Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and provide opportunities for Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and the Crown to move forward. The cultural redress recognises the traditional, historical, cultural, and spiritual association of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho with the T\u0101maki-makau-rau region. It also recognises the connection Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho has with \u0100whitu Peninsula, Hunua Ranges, and Manukau Harbour through statutory acknowledgments and deeds of recognition. These instruments will enhance the ability of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho to participate in specified resource management processes and require the Crown to consult with Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho on areas they are associated with. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EA cultural revitalisation fund of $590,000, provided as part of the cultural redress, will enable Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho to continue working towards the conservation of their gifted sites. This fund is an important means of re-establishing the connection that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho lost with their environment all those years ago. The commercial redress package includes financial redress of $10.3 million that aims to provide Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho a start to building a strong economic foundation in which to embark on future endeavours. This package will go a long way towards Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho re-establishing connections with various parts of their rohe, strengthening the identity of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho as an iwi, and providing the foundation for a stronger social, cultural, and economic future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EWhile the Crown can never fully compensate iwi for their loss, I acknowledge Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho\u2019s generosity in accepting the redress contained in this settlement package and trust that today marks a new beginning in the relationship between Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and the Crown. Through this settlement, the Crown hopes to express its deepest remorse for its actions and work towards alleviating Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho\u2019s grievances. The Crown looks forward to building a new relationship with Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho based on cooperation, mutual trust, and, above all, respect for Te Tiriti o Waitangi and its principles.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EI want to congratulate all those who helped Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho reach this momentous occasion today, but most of all to congratulate Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho themselves. Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho\u2019s perseverance, courage, and grace are inspiring and have brought us a settlement which will help build the future for their people. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u00220aa04b2e16e7480598c4d352ac10a463\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220aa04b2e16e7480598c4d352ac10a463\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (National):\u003C/span\u003E The National Opposition joins with the Government in supporting this legislation and welcomes the representatives of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho to the House. I recall very well a very rainy Sunday, 30 April 2017, when I signed the deed of settlement in the beautiful H\u016Bnua Ranges, and it was a pleasure to work with Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho over many years to reach this stage.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI think that the Minister\u2019s outline of the historical background was very good, and I don\u2019t intend to say too much more than what he said, but I do want to make one point, and it\u2019s referred to in the summary of the historical account, and read into the record of the House a very important summary, and that is that young children from this iwi and other iwi experienced discrimination and segregation at a State-run school in Pukekohe. It wasn\u2019t just in the State-run school; there were instances when people were segregated in the local cinema and were treated very much as second-class citizens. There are some people in this country who would say, \u201CWell, maybe that sort of thing happened in Bloemfontein, but it would never have happened here.\u201D Well, it did. And members of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and their children were treated very badly indeed, and that is an important fact that needs to be highlighted, and it\u2019s one of the reasons why we are engaged in this historic Treaty resolution policy: because these things matter.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe second point I want to make is that the area of interest of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho is centred in and around the H\u016Bnua Ranges, but it goes much further than that. The area of interest goes down to the Manukau Harbour, to Franklin. As I\u2019ve said, it takes in the H\u016Bnua Ranges, the Awhit\u016B Peninsula, but it also goes down into central Auckland. Again, the historical account mentions the fact that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho rangatira also sold land in Remuera directly to P\u0101keh\u0101 after the Crown temporarily waived pre-emption in 1844. So the area of interest was indeed very large. There are some iwi\u2014and of course I won\u2019t mention them here because it would be impolitic to do so\u2014that think they have absolute control over certain areas in T\u0101maki, but it just was not like that. The areas of interest were overlapping, and it has caused issues in pretty well every settlement that I negotiated when I was Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe M\u0101ori Affairs Committee addressed the issue of overlapping claims in its report and said they were very difficult issues, and particularly referred to concerns that had been expressed by Te \u0100kitai Waiohua and Ng\u0101ti Te Ata\u2014very good people in both groups\u2014who had concerns with overlapping claims. Then the report also says that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho said overlapping claims had been very difficult to deal with as the Office of Treaty Settlements claims process is designed to address issues with the Crown not with other iwi or hap\u016B, and I really acknowledge that. I acknowledge the difficulties that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho faced. These overlapping claims are very difficult to deal with, and, as the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations is going to find out during his term, they will be the bane of this life, just as they were the bane of my life. They\u2019re complex and they\u2019re emotional, and always the Crown is always the one that is criticised, but so often it\u2019s important for iwi to get on with these overlapping claims sooner rather than later so that the Crown\u2019s dispute resolution process need not be called on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIn this case, there were difficult issues. I think all three groups dealt with them very well, and I commend all three groups and I look forward to the day that Te \u0100kitai, too, can sign its deed of settlement\u2014very good people; and Ng\u0101ti Te Ata. Everyone here, of course, still grieves for the passing of the great Ng\u0101neko Minhinnick and also T\u0101huna Minhinnick. That has added concerns to negotiations with Ng\u0101ti Te Ata over, for example, overlapping claims, because they\u2019ve been through a very difficult period. So the best advice I can offer iwi is to get on with these overlapping claims as soon as possible, and also step back and recognise that iwi are not, as it were, protected behind hermetically sealed walls. There are areas of interest that overlap and there are going to be these tensions which arise, nowhere more obviously than in a place like T\u0101maki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe second point I wish to make in this third reading speech is to say how pleased I am that the H\u016Bnua scenic reserve will be transferred back to a number of iwi, including Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, and it will continue to be administered as a reserve, and public access is going to continue. As I said last week, in the context of the Ng\u0101i Tai ki T\u0101maki third reading, the Department of Conservation (DOC) has come a very long way in recent times to recognising that, in appropriate circumstances, areas of land can be transferred to iwi as cultural redress, particularly where they have very strong emotional links to those areas. Therefore, I simply express the hope that this will continue in the years to come and that DOC won\u2019t revert to a proprietorial approach to areas of land throughout the country; that there will be circumstances where lands must be handed over, because it is far more appropriate that they sit with the iwi than be Crown controlled.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ESo I think the best years for this iwi are ahead of it. It is a strong and a noble iwi, very well led by gentle and communicative and cooperative rangatira, and I hope that the young people from Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho will recognise all the wonderful things that this current generation has done for them. I believe Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho will take its place within T\u0101maki, playing a very important role across the city for the benefit of frankly, all of Auckland.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIn that regard, can I simply close by saying, Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho are members of the Maunga Authority, and that it\u2019s very important, as I said last week, that all members of the Maunga Authority, when dealing with the volcanic cones in Auckland, realise that there are a number of interests in the volcanic cones. There\u2019s the obvious iwi interest, which is why we had that legislation passed in 2014, but there\u2019s also the broader public interest. There have been some concerns in recent times\u2014for example, in relation to Mount Eden\u2014that some changes have been made that have restricted public access, and that it is very important for the Maunga Authority to work with the broader community so that they understand the changes that have been made and why the changes have been made, so as to avoid unnecessary strife. I am sure, when I look at the leadership of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, I believe that they are exactly the people to play that very important role on the Maunga Authority to make sure that the public are brought along with changes that are made. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ECan I conclude by wishing Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho all the best. It was great dealing with you. I feel that I have learnt so much about this country by dealing with people like you. Someone once wrote a book called The Education of a Public Man\u2014well, that\u2019s really what Andrew Little\u2019s going to find out as Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations. You learn so much about your country, and 10 years ago I would have said there would never have been any discrimination of the kind that I mentioned at the beginning of this speech, but it did happen, and it\u2019s very important that this country address those sorts of things. So that\u2019s why I\u2019m so pleased that this legislation now has its third reading. I commend the bill to the House and wish this great iwi all the very best for the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022 data-id=\u0022042b457f42ce4d84919670dee8f2709e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022042b457f42ce4d84919670dee8f2709e\u0022\u003EMARAMA DAVIDSON (Co-Leader\u2014Green):\u003C/span\u003E E Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa \u014Dku hoa kaimahi katoa ki roto i t\u0113nei Whare P\u0101remata. Ko te mea nui o t\u0113nei r\u0101 ka t\u016B au ki te whakautu i a koutou, i \u014D koutou kaha i t\u0113nei r\u0101 o Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. Nei r\u0101 taku mihi aroha; kik\u012B ana t\u0113nei Whare i \u014D koutou wairua, i te hau o Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. E ng\u0101 uri o Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho i roto i t\u0113nei Whare, t\u0113nei te mihi mahana ki a koutou katoa. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E[To the Assistant Speaker of the House, greetings. Greetings to one and all of my colleagues in this Parliament. The main thing today is to stand and respond to you, to your strength on this, the day of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. Greetings to you all. This is my loving greeting; this House is overflowing with your spirits, with the essence of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. To the descendants of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho in this House, this is a warm greeting to you all. Thank you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EThings happen for a reason, and today I am particularly delighted to stand in this third reading debate celebrating the longstanding generosity and strength and resilience of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, especially considering what you have been through over the generations and over the centuries, because I wasn\u2019t supposed to speak on today\u2019s bill. I had even let Warahi Paki know that I wasn\u2019t going to be able to be in the House to greet you all today and to stand here \u0101-tinana [in person] to feel your wairua all around us. So I\u2019m particularly happy that I am here to address you. My colleague who was supposed to speak on this, who is our fantastic P\u0101keh\u0101 tangata Tiriti spokesperson for Te Tiriti, Jan Logie, is unable to make it back from the plane in time. I am incredibly honoured to take her place and be able to address you today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI spoke in the first reading and, in the whole 20 minutes that I had to prepare for this, I went back and had a look and remembered\u2014remembered your story, remembered your history, remembered your whakapapa, and remembered your strength from my speech in the first reading on this, and why\u2014and all of the connections that I have to your story came back to me just in time for me to stand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI\u2019m going to concentrate on kaitiakitanga today, because Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho are kaitiaki, not rebels. Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho have always been kaitiaki, even when they were made virtually landless. So the connection and the importance of whakapapa and the accountability that you have always held to your ngahere, to your awa, to your maunga, to your people, to your tupuna, and to your mokopuna to come was never severed. You have continued despite all of this, and despite being, in Warahi\u2019s words, underserviced for ever by all authorities, by all powers\u2014by local government, by regional government, by central government\u2014and underserviced with all of the basic living needs that communities need, having had your land and environmental responsibilities taken by shady manner, by shady actions, or by outright theft. You have maintained, through wit and ingenuity and sheer accountability, the leadership and connection to your lands. Those shady deals and shady sales that happened around the South Auckland area, around your whole iwi tribal rohe\u2014and including, I\u2019ve read, some lands in Remuera, which is a good thing to remind us all in this House\u2014are quite typical of many of the Treaty deals that happened. Some of our prime lands and whenua were absolutely stolen from iwi. So I did want to put that on the Hansard as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ENow, I wanted to pick up on your words, Warahi\u2014and all of you from Mangatangi P\u0101, from Waikato Awa, from Maungaroa Maunga, and from Tamaoho and Waikato iwi. The long, agonising wait, says Warahi, is actually the patience and generosity that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho have had and have benefited our country with despite being underserviced by powers, as I mentioned, and not having the full affirmation of your kaitiaki mana over your waters. An example is the work you have done to maintain m\u0101ra kai, water kirihi, the p\u016Bh\u0101, the tuna, the tuna heke, the k\u014Dura, the catfish, and all the whakapapa parts of our ecosystem; and the biodiversity that you have had to struggle to care for despite the settlements, the colonies that happened as a result of the land rip-offs, the P\u0101keh\u0101 colonies that rose, and the infrastructure that was put in place in a shoddy, ad hoc way that caused the environmental degradation that you have then had to try and keep tabs on. What that did to the water supply, the dam; what that did to rerouting water distribution\u2014this has happened all around the country. Our awa have been rerouted from our valleys, from our hapori, and from our families, to be rerouted away from us. So that has happened for ever, and it absolutely happened to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI\u2019m a South Auckland resident and have been for all of my adult life. I have visited Hunua Falls and the Hunua scenic reserve for most of my adult life and have gifted that place to my tamariki to be able to take them there to benefit in our ngahere. And I cannot wait to see the affirmation of the cultural m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori and leadership that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho will have to have over our ngahere if we are truly going to save them and if we are truly going to protect them for mokopuna. I look forward to your leadership on being able to work with the authorities, including the Department of Conservation and all the authorities that have the power levers, and being able to insist on the benefits of m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori, M\u0101ori science, and M\u0101ori whakapapa knowledge of ecosystems and biodiversity to help guard against things like kauri dieback. And I look forward to supporting your voice and making sure that this House upholds your expertise and your background and your connection to those areas, for the benefit of all of us.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo, in closing, I am here. I am taura here living in Auckland for my iwi of Ng\u0101puhi, Te Rarawa, and Ngati Porou, living on your lands alongside the other mana whenua of T\u0101maki-makau-rau. I am here, appreciative of all the benefits that my wh\u0101nau and tamariki and parents and grandparents, as long-time residents in South Auckland, have received with the benefit of living on your whenua. I am here as a co-leader of the Green Party, who understand that dealing with large natural groupings such as iwi has really caused some frustration, and we are very clear that it should go back to the actual natural groupings of hap\u016B and, indeed, wh\u0101nau. I am here because the Green Party know that there is no such thing as full and final settlement, and that Te Tiriti is a relationship between Crown and rangatira, who have rangatiratanga over their whenua rohe and rohe moana. And I am here because Warahi sent me an email. And I replied to you, Warahi, saying, \u201CI\u2019m so sorry I\u2019m not going to be in this House today, but I take on board your words.\u201D And I have taken on board your words and put them on this floor in this Whare, because the words of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho are the most important words.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, t\u0113nei taku mihi aroha n\u014D taku ng\u0101kau, n\u014D taku wairua, n\u014D taku tinana, n\u014D \u014Dku t\u016Bpuna ki a koutou, ki \u014D koutou t\u016Bpuna, ki \u014D koutou maunga, ki \u014D koutou awa, ki \u014D koutou ngahere me ng\u0101 r\u0101kau rangatira o Te Wao Nui a T\u0101ne, ng\u0101 mea katoa, ng\u0101 kararehe katoa o \u014D t\u0101tou whakapapa. Ki a koutou ng\u0101 mokopuna k\u0101ore an\u014D kia tae ki t\u0113nei ao m\u0101rama, n\u014D reira, he mihi h\u014Dhonu, he mihi aroha, he mihi kau ana. Kia ora mai t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E[Therefore, this is my acknowledgment from my heart, from my spirit, from my body, from my ancestors to you, to your ancestors, to your mountains, to your rivers, to your forests and the important trees of The Realm of T\u0101ne, all things, all the animals of our genealogy. To you the grandchildren who have not yet arrived in this world of light, therefore, a deep greeting, a loving greeting, I greet you. My appreciation to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022 data-id=\u002291f8141d7a65403da26cabe9e2fba7a9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002291f8141d7a65403da26cabe9e2fba7a9\u0022\u003EANDREW BAYLY (National\u2014Hunua):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. As the MP for Hunua, I welcome you to this House, P\u0101remata, and I just want to acknowledge all the rangatira and the kuia from your iwi. I also particularly want to acknowledge the negotiating team that was involved in bringing this settlement to its conclusion over a long period of time, and I particularly just want to\u2014whilst I see many of you and know many of you\u2014acknowledge Dennis and Hero up there, who I have a lot to do with and I know have played a part, particularly in the electorate that I represent.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EIn getting to this stage today, I think it\u2019s just worthwhile acknowledging the work of the Treaty settlement Ministers, in particular my friend and colleague the Hon Chris Finlayson, and, of course, the good work that the Hon Andrew Little is carrying on in bringing this matter to a conclusion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EI know this bill is a long time in coming, and I know that you have expressed concerns and issues with the length of time. But we have got there. And I know that it\u2019s cost you a lot\u2014I remember having a discussion with you, Dennis, and your lovely daughter\u2014but we are here today. I think, when you look back at the documentation that\u2019s in the bill, it\u2019s a salutary lesson in what has gone on in the past. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EIt all started well, didn\u2019t it? Prior to the 1840s, your iwi had friendly relationships with P\u0101keh\u0101 and traded well and, obviously, set about trying to have a positive relationship, as did, by all accounts, the settlers that came in that period to live in that area. In the 1840s and the 1850s, that continued, but it was the turning point in 1863 that really changed the nature of that relationship, with the requiring of an oath that was presented to your iwi without sufficient time for due consideration, which led to the burning of property and, over time, the dispossession of land. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EWhen you read it in the actual bill, I think the sobering nature of what that meant for you and for your people\u2014and it\u2019s easy to say the word \u201Cyou\u201D; what it means to each and every one. It\u2019s just interesting, with the impassionate language: \u201CMany experienced severe social and economic marginalisation and deplorable housing conditions.\u201D M\u0101ori children were discriminated against and segregated at a State school run in Pukekohe. When you think about the generations that have passed and what that meant for them individually and what it meant to you as an iwi, it must be terribly troubling, and looking back in history, something that you know has occurred. But what I think is the interesting thing about that is that out of great adversity comes a certain strength and certainly a lot of understanding, and I think you have been truly patient in getting to the point where we are today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EI know this settlement is small, but it is a settlement, and I am particularly glad that you\u2019ve set up your post-settlement group to work with it and work through all the settlement land holdings and other issues that you will be getting. It\u2019s great to see the list of areas that you will have administration over or control of, particularly \u0100whitu Conservation Area, which I love; parts around Drury, Hingaia; the Hunua Stream, of course; and the Hunua Falls, which is a great favourite of mine; Mauku Stream; and also the Waiau P\u0101 Reserve. They are all fabulous areas, and I do enjoy visiting them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EBut I just want to say to you that my door is always open. I wish you the best, and to any extent that I can help you in the future going forward, so that we can have an even more positive and better relationship, then you know all you need to do is knock on my door and it shall be opened. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022 data-id=\u0022b646bc019dc84886aaa09e6b1850ee52\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b646bc019dc84886aaa09e6b1850ee52\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams)\u003C/span\u003E: Before I call the honourable Minister, I\u2019d just like to remind the House that a passing reference to the Speaker would be useful in these debates. I know the Treaty bills are very special, but just a passing reference in terms of procedure would be appreciated. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022 data-id=\u00227aa6275293ee4aaba3f8cb92801fd5bb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227aa6275293ee4aaba3f8cb92801fd5bb\u0022\u003EHon RON MARK (Minister of Defence):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker. T\u012Bhei mauri ora, t\u012Bhei; Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, haere mai, haere mai ki Te Whare P\u0101remata, haere mai ki te huihui nei [I sneeze, the breath of life, I sneeze; Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, welcome, welcome to Parliament, welcome to this gathering], and welcome to this third reading of your Treaty settlement bill. My name, as the Assistant Speaker has just announced, is Ron Mark, and I\u2019ve got the privilege and the honour of speaking on behalf of New Zealand First, although I have to state right from the outset that I did not sit through the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee hearings on your settlement and I\u2019ve just had the opportunity just now to peruse the document before me.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EMy name is Ronald Whiti o Maaka, and I am Ngati Porou, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, Raukawa, and Te Arawa descent, and also of T\u016Bwharetoa and I\u2019m also\u2014it\u2019s out of my head\u2014descended from my people from over in the Horowhenua area and Te \u0100tiawa. My bones go back down, actually, into the top end of the South Island, in around Motueka, being one of those people from Whakat\u016B. You could say that my ancestral lines cover everything south of the Bombay Hills, so I don\u2019t know too much about your rohe. But I\u2019ve just had the opportunity to peruse the settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EAs a former lead negotiator for the Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa T\u0101maki Nui-\u0101-Rua Treaty settlement, it is interesting for me, when I read page 2, in particular, and then go into the summary of historical account. Those deeds that occurred from 1840 on, for which you have sought redress, are very, very similar to those issues, those grievances, that my Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu people have also been seeking redress for, and which I hope to see settled in the same manner through this House in time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003ECan I congratulate you. I note that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Trust and Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho members negotiated your deed of settlement. That they first got Crown recognition\u2014that is, the deed of mandate\u2014in 2010 and that you progressed through in December 2016 to initial a deed of settlement actually says to me that you moved at quite some speed. We took about that length of time in the Wairarapa just to agree to appoint a group of people who would actually undertake obtaining the mandate and setting up the trust. I think we took about six years to get through that process as we discussed the matter amongst ourselves. So I have to say congratulations to you, because those formative years of setting up your trust and getting concurrence and agreement from your iwi as a whole would not have been an easy step, but it was the most important step. Getting mandate recognised by the Crown as having had the mandate to progress the claim on is the first step forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EThat you had a Treaty settlement signed in April 2017 and that we are here in 2018 and completing the third reading indicates an eight-year period in total, which I\u2019m quite astonished by, because we\u2019re still working, in the Wairarapa. I\u2019m hopeful that we might see that settlement pass through this House, just as yours is now, during this term of Parliament.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EThe overlapping claims issues are briefly discussed on page 2 of the bill. Can I say that we recognise the challenges that you would\u2019ve faced. Some of those are outlined in here with other iwi. It is interesting that when you get to that part of the claim, it requires your trustees, your negotiators, to enter into those often sensitive overlapping issues. Sometimes, agreement is easy to find; sometimes, because of disputes\u2014and I\u2019m only drawing on my own experience as a lead negotiator\u2014the contesting of views, and things of history, of whakapapa, and of ownership of eponymous ancestors, they can prove to be challenges. I\u2019m not sure in my mind right now whether you faced exactly the same challenges that other iwi have faced in that area. All I do know is that, at times, it can become very demanding, very testing, very challenging, very emotional, and very difficult. That you as an iwi have progressed to this point suggests that you found pathways through or, indeed, that you found compromises that today you are prepared to accept and live with. May I wish you all the very best as you progress beyond this point, carrying those issues with you, as I know you must.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EI\u2019ve had a brief scan of the summary of the historical account, and it\u2019s interesting to me to read the activities of your iwi prior to the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi as you sought to engage with P\u0101keh\u0101 settlers and sought to engage in what would\u2019ve been productive land transactions designed to enhance your own economic circumstances and give your people that ability to move forward as one with P\u0101keh\u0101 settlers. The same happened in the Wairarapa, and I can see also the changes that occurred post the Treaty settlement and, clearly, Governor Grey\u2019s influence in legislation\u2014again, the very same issues that other iwi have faced as well, and in particular in the Wairarapa, where leasehold agreements were signed and were later crushed by the Crown, in particular, Governor Grey, of the time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EI and New Zealand First acknowledge that when your iwi entered into these negotiations, you would\u2019ve had to accept that the final document would be full and final and that the final document would contain an apology from the Crown and that the final document, the agreement laid out in here, would be enduring. It would last in perpetuity. Those are interesting conditions to enter into at the outset and do, I know, pose challenges. Some would suggest it\u2019s hard to enter into negotiation where it seems that the railway lines have already been laid and to progress to the next station you have to stay on those railway lines\u2014there is no deviation. That you are here now, at the third reading, and that you are asking the House to endorse this agreement indicates to New Zealand First that you have reached a full and final settlement, that you are happy with the contents of this agreement, that you\u2014and I suspect you have scrutinised the apology that the Crown is issuing to ensure that it sits comfortably with your people, that it does contain those points, those aspects which you hold dear to and for which you seek redress and which you wish history to record.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002207dc4112-8a19-4dd6-a57c-878b47f8a9b6\u0022\u003EOn the basis of that, this appears to New Zealand First to be a document that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho are happy with, and it will lay the foundation for your future advancement of your people, the establishment of a financial base from which you may be able to grow and develop opportunity. We in New Zealand First wish you all the very best as you move forward. Ka kite.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022 data-id=\u00220a3ba47a277c4f36a85d4dc2a9ea893e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220a3ba47a277c4f36a85d4dc2a9ea893e\u0022\u003EJO HAYES (National):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101. Ka huri au ki te mihi ki Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, kia ora. Ki ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho kia uru mai ki t\u0113nei r\u0101 pai, he r\u0101 o te whakanui, he r\u0101 o whakaaetia ai t\u014D mate me Te Karauna, \u0101, ka whakatauhia \u0113tahi w\u0101hanga: nau mai, haere mai ki Te Whare P\u0101remata, he whare m\u014D ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata katoa. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker. I turn to greet Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, kia ora. To the hap\u016B of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho who have entered on this good day, a day for the celebration, a day on which your issues with the Crown are agreed to and some aspects are settled: welcome, welcome to Parliament House, a house for all people. Thank you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI\u2019m pleased to stand once again in this House to speak on the third reading of another claims settlement bill, the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Claims Settlement Bill. The third reading\u2014this is the most important part, of all of our readings that happen in this House. It is important because there is really only one other step left to go with this bill: Royal assent, when it goes off to the Governor-General for her signing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the many people, the negotiators of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, for the hard work that they have done in bringing this bill to its final form. I want to thank all the wh\u0101nau, all the leaders of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, and I want to also acknowledge mokopuna of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho as well. While all the m\u0101tua and pakeke sit up in the gallery, it is for mokopuna that you work so hard. They are your future; they are our future. That\u2019s why I stand here proud, once again, in being able to tautoko a third reading of a claims settlement bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EMy colleagues have already outlined various details in this particular bill, but I just want to outline the statutory acknowledgments over some of the waterways and conservation lands and resources. Before I came to the House, I went on the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho website and had a look at some of the projects that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho have been working on, especially around the area of te taiao, the environmental area, and the six major issues that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho have been working in and on. It\u2019s all around the quality and control of the waterways. I am confident that now that this bill has come to this particular part of its process, that having Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho in with the regional council, in with the Auckland Council, the Department of Conservation, and other Government agencies, that you will certainly have a very loud voice in how the Manukau Harbour is to be managed, especially around some of the areas of pollution in that area. So I\u2019m really pleased that you\u2019re going to be part and parcel of managing all of those areas.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI also want to make comment around resilience of M\u0101ori, because we talk about it in the House all the time when we come into third readings of claims settlement bills. And people have already discussed here in the House about the resilience and the patience that the people of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho have gone through to get to this space.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EBut I also want to talk about some of the other things that have happened\u2014I\u2019ve heard about in the House today\u2014around the racism, some of them call it unconscious bias, towards our M\u0101ori rangatahi, our M\u0101ori tamariki. I want to share with Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho that even in my family we weren\u2019t immune to things like that. When my sister turned five years old, we lived 2 miles\u2014back in the day\u2014away from the local primary school. It was a metal road. That school bus drove straight past her as she walked to school. That\u2019s the kind of thing that, as M\u0101ori\u2014the resilience and the determination that we have suffered and have gained over time have actually set us in good stead to be great negotiators when it comes to claims settlement bills. I want to thank you all for your perseverance.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EWhen I started my k\u014Drero, I talked about mokopuna, because today everything that\u2019s being said in this House is all being recorded, as you know, in Hansard. And, hopefully, one day when your mokopuna walk the halls\u2014and maybe some of them will walk the halls of this House\u2014they will be able to look back into the history books of Parliament and see the work and the great deeds that you have done in getting this bill into the House and getting it through in its final reading. From today onwards, all that responsibility of the future of mokopuna will lay in your hands. It is not really how much you get; it is what you do with the money, it\u2019s what you do with the lands, it\u2019s what you do with your responsibilities that really counts at the end of the day. They are things that I tell my children, and I talk to my mokopuna about that, as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003ESo, in closing, I know my contribution is short but, you know, it\u2019s the words that are actually expressed that are the memorable part of the speech. So I turn back to you, because, as I said at the start, I do stand proud every time I stand to speak on these bills. I think that no amount of money will ever pay back the hurt that Iwi M\u0101ori have suffered. However, if we keep looking at the past, we will learn that we must strive for a better future. And so I\u2019m very proud to stand and wish Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho all the best for your future, for the future of your mokopuna, and I\u2019m very proud to commend the bill to the house. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u0022927154441039427ca62d19ac1e83395b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022927154441039427ca62d19ac1e83395b\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Associate Minister for M\u0101ori Development):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Ko M\u014Dkai ki runga, ko T\u0101maki ki raro, ko Pare Hauraki, ko Pare Waikato, Te Kaokaoroa-o-P\u0101tetere, ko Mangat\u014Dt\u014D ki waenganui hoki ake mai ki te nehenehe nui. T\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho tae mai nei i t\u0113nei w\u0101. He h\u014Dnore nui ki te t\u016B i mua i a koutou i t\u0113nei w\u0101, ng\u0101 kuia, ng\u0101 koroua i whakarangatira i a m\u0101tou i t\u0113nei w\u0101. T\u0113nei te tino mihi ki a koutou. He r\u0101 nunui t\u0113nei m\u0101 koutou tae mai nei ki te whakanui t\u0113nei r\u0101, t\u0113nei te tino mihi ki a koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa, haere mai, nau mai, kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[M\u014Dkai is above, T\u0101maki is below, Pare Hauraki, Pare Waikato, Te Kaokaoroa-o-P\u0101tetere and Mangat\u014Dt\u014D are in between and back to the great forest. I greet you Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho who have come here at this time. It is a great honour to stand before you at this time, the elderly women and men who have ennobled us at this time. I cordially greet you. This is a big day for you who have come in celebration; I truly acknowledge you, my greetings to all of you, welcome, and hello.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EMadam Assistant Speaker, I just wanted to acknowledge people who have joined us here today, a great day where we celebrate this kaupapa. Let\u2019s not forget some of our kaumatua and kuia who have passed on: Nanny Mere Taka, Barney Kirkwood, Te Raha Ngarengari, and of course the very famous\u2014or should I say infamous\u2014Toko Pompey, who we will never forget and who advocated this kaupapa endlessly on Radio Waatea and every time we saw him, and of course came up with a wonderful song that Richard Eriwata sung many years ago, the \u201CTamaoho\u201D song. So we\u2019ll never forget our old mate, and I\u2019m sure he\u2019ll be smiling down on us today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EOf course it\u2019s only right to acknowledge the negotiating team: Ted Ng\u0101taki, Warahi Paki, the lead negotiator, Dennis Kirkwood, Te Roto Jenkins, Gordon Katipa, Kiri Waitai Wilson, Tamara Taka-Jones, Panetuku Rae, George Wheatley, Nick Maaka, Tori Ng\u0101taki, and Christine Herzog. My congratulations to all of them for the mahi that\u2019s been done.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EThe T\u0101maoho story is one of the saddest stories in terms of this country. To be made landless in 1900 by a vicious and ruthless Crown is a disgrace in terms of what happened with this country. I salute the former Minister, who talks about telling our stories in schools. He said this a number of times, and hinted at it today, too. He says that our story should be told in the schools. The T\u0101maoho story must be continually and continually told. And I say with respect to our people who are here today that that obligation is not just on the House but on our kaumatua and kuia and our people who are here today. We\u2019ve got to tell our kids, tell our mokopuna, the T\u0101maoho story, because the T\u0101maoho story is not exclusive to T\u0101maoho. It is the M\u0101ori story. It\u2019s the nation\u2019s story. It\u2019s the story of colonisation. Sometimes I think that we don\u2019t ever want to talk about colonisation. It\u2019s in the too-hard basket for this House, and it\u2019s seen as an excuse, but we all have a duty and obligation to talk fairly and rationally about how colonisation devastated this country, and in fact devastated countries all around the world in terms of indigenous people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EAs you know, I worked for 10 years on talkback radio, and when a M\u0101ori baby died I would come into the studio the next day and pick up emails telling me, \u201COh, Jackson, your people are murderers. Jackson, your people are abusers.\u201D We\u2019d be overwhelmed with emails telling us what a rotten race we were. And when M\u0101ori went to jail, emails would come in: \u201COh, you\u2019re 15 percent of the population, Jackson, but you\u2019re 50 percent of the jail population. Oh, Willie Jackson and John Tamihere, all your people are criminals. You\u2019re all criminals.\u201D And when a M\u0101ori business went broke, or some individual M\u0101ori stole some money from the boss, emails would come in and they would say, \u201CSee, Jackson, your people can\u2019t be trusted. You\u2019re all thieves.\u201D And, sadly, our people fill every negative statistic in the prisons and in terms of abuse, violence, health, education, employment\u2014you name it, M\u0101ori lead the way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ENow, I\u2019ve always thought it can\u2019t be because M\u0101ori have some sort of violent DNA or criminal gene\u2014that can\u2019t be the case. There have to be reasons why M\u0101ori and indigenous people all around the world are leading the way in negative statistics. You see, our story is the Australian Aboriginal story. Our story is the American Indian story. Our story is the Canadian Indian story. Our story is the South African black story, the native Hawaiian story, and, whether you want to accept it or not, it all comes back to the colonisation story.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EBut let me say today, and put it on the table, that I\u2019m not saying colonisation is an excuse for some of the terrible crimes that have happened and do happen in society. I\u2019ll never use that as an excuse, as a reason why M\u0101ori commit so much crime. I won\u2019t accept that, even though I attended an institute the other day and I had a young M\u0101ori woman telling me that the reason why M\u0101ori are murdering too many people and raping too many people and abusing too many people was all because of the P\u0101keh\u0101\u2014I\u2019ll never accept that sort of rubbish. Rubbish. We have to take personal responsibility. We all know that in the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EBut there\u2019s got to be some background to the madness. There\u2019s got to be some background to the madness. You can\u2019t say that colonisation hasn\u2019t had some effect on this country. So we all have an obligation, surely, to tell the history of this country. You see, the effects of losing your language, your culture, your land, and your whakapapa has to be devastating in some way and lead to some of the most catastrophic statistics that can be out there. In my humble opinion, colonisation has a lot to answer for. The whole essence of colonisation was to destroy the beliefs of indigenous people and they so very nearly succeeded. In fact, 19th century politician Sir Francis Dillon-Bell said, \u201CThe first plank of public policy [was] to stamp out the beastly communism of the Maori\u201D. If that\u2019s not an example of the coloniser strategy then nothing is.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EBut we have come through all that. We have come through all that. And our people of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho have shown, through their grace, through their humility, and through their goodwill, that they\u2019re looking at another time. And so there is an opportunity, as other tribes have shown, to forge a future with the compensation that has come\u2014a compensation that will never acknowledge the effects of colonisation and a compensation that, sadly, won\u2019t give us back Remuera, but a compensation that will give us a start.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a88ce58f2a354b6ab3133432c2cd79d7\u0022\u003EHon Peeni Henare\u003C/span\u003E: Not yet.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e11192871f7145219b26aa4699fb5ea7\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: \u201CNot yet.\u201D, as the Hon Peeni Henare says. There\u2019s a chance to rebuild, and that\u2019s an opportunity that I ask our people who are here today to grasp. We have an obligation in the House to keep talking about how we get our history and our whakapapa in the schools. We have to be careful\u2014because we\u2019re all watching the polls\u2014but parties have to be mature, have to understand that as Finlayson says and has had for many years, this country will only grow\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221ab32a1f67da46faaa8303ff68571937\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams)\u003C/span\u003E: I apologise. I\u2019ll just ask the member to refer to other members by their proper names.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022745c85c6a9fd4aa394bb9200b11bfa5f\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: My apologies, Madam Assistant Speaker. As the Hon Chris Finlayson said, this country will only grow when the true story\u2019s out there, and our Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, Andrew Little, concurs and the M\u0101ori caucus also concurs. We have an obligation and a chance to rebuild through the settlement, so I ask the beneficiaries today to never stop telling the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho story and I ask the House: let\u2019s work a strategy out, a strategy where we can come together so that this country will know the history, the whakapapa, and the background so that justice can be understood and told in every part of the country.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, t\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou; he h\u014Dnore nui. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[Therefore, greetings to you all; it is a big honour. Thank you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022 data-id=\u00223196220bfbbc4f038aba1e2545a2b414\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223196220bfbbc4f038aba1e2545a2b414\u0022\u003EHARETE HIPANGO (National\u2014Whanganui):\u003C/span\u003E E mihi ana ki ng\u0101 hap\u016B me ng\u0101 uri o te iwi o Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. Nau mai, haere mai, whakatau mai ki t\u0113nei w\u0101, te ao hou, te w\u0101 o te ao hou. Ko au he uri n\u014D Whanganui, e t\u016B ana au ki te karanga o te pire whakatau o t\u0101 koutou ker\u0113me.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E[I greet the subtribes and the descendants of the iwi of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. Welcome, welcome, welcome to this time, the new world, the time of the new world. I am a descendant of Whanganui, standing in relation to this bill of settlement for your claim.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EMadam Assistant Speaker, I take this call, addressing you, as the tikanga of this House requires, although there may be moments that I do turn to acknowledge Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b7c559b042ab4a2ab4c97cab49cd1f0d\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams)\u003C/span\u003E: Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227c9ace0a6309499192961838380559b5\u0022\u003EHARETE HIPANGO\u003C/span\u003E: I also acknowledge our former Minister of Treaty settlements, the Hon Christopher Finlayson, and the current serving Minister, Andrew Little, for all the work that has preceded them as this Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Claims Settlement Bill advances to its final passage to be made into law. This is the bill of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho\u2014your claims settlement bill. Standing here is immensely humbling. It\u2019s also a tremendous privilege to be able to address the House and also the people in the formulation\u2014the final passage of the making of your law.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI stood for the first time to address the House in the second reading on 3 May, and, in doing so, I referenced that, as a younger woman, I travelled through your rohe, not knowing, in the days when I studied as a student at Auckland University. I now know your history. I have had the privilege of serving as a member on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and, as a result of that, my knowledge of what your whakapapa and your stories are has been enhanced.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI mentioned in the second reading of this bill that I would speak more substantively to the bill itself. So, in saying that, we acknowledge that this is a significant milestone for all of the hap\u016B, the iwi, and the uri of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, and I acknowledge all those who\u2019ve worked on this settlement. It acknowledges the past wrongs of the Crown, and that has been outlined within the bill\u2014soon to be the Act\u2014in clauses 7, 8, 9, and the apology specifically at clause 10.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI will turn to the key messages that, as a member of the National Party, the National-led Government initiated the negotiations, and it\u2019s acknowledged that there has been some level of grievance, understandably and rightly so, for this to have taken so long.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003ESettlements help iwi unlock economic potential and boost the growth and development. As I look up to you all, I see that the generations span. Your succession there is in place for your young ones to carry on the whakaaro and the work of your old people and those of us who are ageing, in here, with our young ones.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EMoving forward to the aspects of the bill\u2014as you know, Part 1 is a historical account, and that has been relayed before the House. Part 2 addresses cultural redress and the revitalisation of those aspects of who you are and your environments and your people. And Part 3 is around the financial and commercial redress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003ESo dealing specifically with those parts, it\u2019s acknowledged that the historical account is detailed there\u2014clause 8, the acknowledgments, clause 9, and I move, fast-forward, through to aspects of the cultural redress. As you know, your negotiators, on your behalf, sought under this settlement a $590,000 cultural revitalisation package. That, in part, addresses the vesting of sites of cultural significance, and that will come about on the date of settlement\u2014Clarks Creek property, Karaka property, and Waitete P\u0101 property are all to be administered as a historic reserve. These are your lands and you will embrace the responsibility as kaitiaki and mana whenua, as you always have done.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EH\u016Bnua Falls as well\u2014with the joint vesting of that in your settlement trust body and with the Ng\u0101i Tai ki T\u0101maki Trust, Ngaati Whanaunga, and Ng\u0101ti Koheriki. Also, the statutory acknowledgements outline\u2014and this is listed in Schedule 1 of the bill\u2014all those properties that will now come into the management of you as a people. Geographic and name changes of sites: there are 14 of those\u201421\u2014and then the naming of 10 unnamed historic sites that you will give the significance of those, as is part of your whakapapa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EThe bill outlines, in considerable detail, what those cultural aspects are around your revitalisation package, and then the financial redress of $10.3 million, and with the transfer of four sites back into your management, into your kaitiakitanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EIn closing, it\u2019s been addressed before the House here that no amount of redress will ever be enough to compensate for the wrongs of the past. However, I referenced in my opening that this is the new chapter\u2014te ao hou\u2014and that is a step towards the acknowledgment, recognition, and reconciliation. Ng\u0101 mihi nui ki a katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022cfcdb40be79e4a99b0a59bc2ff21a4d9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cfcdb40be79e4a99b0a59bc2ff21a4d9\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: This is a split call\u20145 minutes. I call Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022 data-id=\u0022df07bc236179437e9748a2faecd930e0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022df07bc236179437e9748a2faecd930e0\u0022\u003EKANWALJIT SINGH BAKSHI (National):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker, for the opportunity to stand in support of the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Claims Settlement Bill. This is my absolute privilege and, truly, honour\u2014to participate in this settlement bill\u2014and this is the first time I am participating in the debate of any settlement bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EI feel that there is a special connection with Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and the Indians. Indians, when they got to New Zealand\u2014after working in Waikato, they moved to Pukekohe, and we know that there is a special connection over there. Before I go any further, I would like to say to ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau o te iwi o Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho [the families of the tribe of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho], t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EI know my pronunciation might not be very good, but you can understand my feeling\u2014what I feel like today. And on behalf of all the Indians, I would like to thank you for your open arms in having Indians in your patch and giving them the opportunity to settle down over there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003ESome of the names I would like to mention here, of the Indians who have been part of Pukekohe\u2014my good friend, Mohanpal Singh Bhatt, and his father-in-law Jawala Singh. One of the streets has been named in Pukekohe with his name. He came to Pukekohe in 1920 and has been there ever since. Now he has passed away, but his family is still over there. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003EA good friend of mine, Ganges Singh, whom many of you might know, was also from that same patch. The Bhaanas and Masters, they own a lot of land over there, and they are part of that fraternity which grows a lot of vegetables in Pukekohe. So I feel like today this settlement addresses a lot of the humiliation that was seen by our forebears over there. I have been told it is similar to the kind of humiliation the Indians felt in the 1920s when the White New Zealand League used to isolate Indians from the mainstream.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226dc89bbf-c2ef-45c9-89e4-d2b5952d8d16\u0022\u003ESo it is very important. I know it has taken a very long time to come to this settlement, and I won\u2019t take any more time. I want this bill to be read completely so that it can go to the next process. I will stop my contribution over here, and I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f6a5bb5b93cc49dfbf0879fd09af9d85\u0022\u003ETamati Coffey\u003C/span\u003E: E Te M\u0101ngai o t\u0113nei Whare?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022dc6e6b96fa0a44adaf1aa83ba392c997\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022dc6e6b96fa0a44adaf1aa83ba392c997\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: I call\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d9bca5969edc4b25a4d2ae5da63a4f26\u0022\u003EHon Members\u003C/span\u003E: Tamati Coffey!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b8e9f504fdfc4a0ab0f68d4a2609c6a8\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: I call Tamati Coffey\u2014five minutes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022 data-id=\u002217f2cf037db84dad97555d4b61166332\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002217f2cf037db84dad97555d4b61166332\u0022\u003ETAMATI COFFEY (Labour\u2014Waiariki):\u003C/span\u003E Ha, ha! Ka pai t\u0113n\u0101!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ETe Arawa \u016Be, Te Arawa \u016Be\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E\u0100 ko te whakaariki, ko te whakaariki \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EAha, tukua mai kia piri, tukua mai kia tata\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EKia eke mai i runga ki te paepae poto a Houmaitawhiti.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E\u0100, tuatahi, ki t\u014D t\u0101tou matua nui i Te Rangi, \u0101, ko ia te t\u012Bmatanga me te whakamutunga o ng\u0101 mea katoa. Tuarua, ki t\u014D t\u0101tou K\u012Bngi a K\u012Bngi Tuheitia, r\u0101tou ko te whare o te K\u0101hui Ariki. Tuatoru, ka hoki ng\u0101 mahara ki a r\u0101tou m\u0101 kua wehe atu ki te p\u014D, ng\u0101 kuia, ng\u0101 kaum\u0101tua o Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, o te iwi wh\u0101nui o Aotearoa, an\u014D hoki ki te wh\u0101nau pani o te p\u0113pi, i mate ai i te t\u012Bmatanga o t\u0113nei wiki i Te M\u0101hoe, i Matahina i t\u014Dku nei rohe. Moe mai, moe mai, e oki ng\u0101 mate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E\u0100, r\u0101tou ki a r\u0101tou, t\u0101tou ki a t\u0101tou t\u0113n\u0101 koutou: t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, a Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa, huri rauna. Ko au te m\u0101ngai o te rohe o Te Waiariki e mihi atu nei mai i Ng\u0101 Kur\u012B-a-Wh\u0101rei-ki-Tihirau, mai i Maket\u016B ki Tongariro, kei te mihi, kei te mihi, kei te mihi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E[That\u2019s great!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EO Te Arawa, o Te Arawa\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EAn intruder, and invader\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ELet them approach, let them come close\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ETo advance upon the threshold to the house of Houmaitawhiti.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EFirstly, we greet our Father in heaven, the beginning and end of all things. Secondly, we greet K\u012Bngi Tuheitia and the royal household. Thirdly, we think about those who have passed on, the elders of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, and the people of New Zealand, and the family as well of the baby who died at the beginning of this week at Te M\u0101hoe, at Matahina in my region. May the dead sleep, sleep and rest.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ENow, let\u2019s return to the living: greetings Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, greetings to you all around. I am the representative of the Bay of Plenty region, from Ng\u0101 Kur\u012B-a-Wh\u0101rei to Tihirau, from Maket\u016B to Tongariro. I greet you, I greet you, I greet you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Tamaoho, today is your day, and we all stand here and we acknowledge you, and we acknowledge your whakapapa, and we acknowledge the wrong, and we acknowledge the attempt to put things right, as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EThis is a new process for me, as a new MP, to come into this House and to look over the process that occurs when we have iwi coming to the House to make right things that have gone very, very wrong in the past. And your story is one of those stories. But today marks the day of a new dawn. It is Matariki this week, and today, I guess, marks the New Year\u2014a new time period for you, moving forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ECan I say that I was very impressed, and I did have a laugh to myself, when I looked at your website. On the home page, I think, the wh\u0101nau, everybody up there in the gallery, would be interested to know that on the home page of the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho website, whilst there\u2019s a little bit saying \u201CRegister if you\u2019re one of us.\u201D, the next bit down is a little karanga out there\u2014well, a challenge, really\u2014to your own people, saying that you\u2019re seeking the next Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Governor-General, that you\u2019re actually seeking the next Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho Prime Minister, the words being, \u201CNow that our Treaty claims work is nearly finished, we\u2019re turning our attention to the goals in our 2050 strategic plan, which includes having at least one Governor-General or Prime Minister who is of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho descent.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EKa rawe! I love that you have taken an inch, and you have taken that mile. I love that you are dreaming big and you are seeing this not just as the day when you get to settle your grievance with the Crown but when you also create an aspiration for your mokopuna, for your uri yet to come, to say to them, \u201CYou don\u2019t need to aim low any more, kids. Aim high! Go for the top job! If those people down there can do it, you can do it too.\u201D And I think that\u2019s a strong message that you should be sending out to your wh\u0101nau, to identify who that kid is going to be, who those kids are going to be, and I look forward to monitoring that, to seeing, one day, the day when you get to stand there in the gallery again and sing for your mokopuna in the House, your Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, and you get to stand there proudly and look down on them and know that things have come full circle\u2014from the time where you\u2019ve come from at the start of your journey and looking forward into the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EYou have lots of be proud of. You have a very bright future ahead. You\u2019ve set your goals in the most beautiful way, and I absolutely, wholeheartedly, from my rohe, commend this bill to the House. Kia ora r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022 data-id=\u00223d99d17d855b4a4db363b46883d363d5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223d99d17d855b4a4db363b46883d363d5\u0022\u003EJO LUXTON (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. It gives me great pleasure to speak to this settlement bill. I wasn\u2019t on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, but I have spoken to colleagues that were on the committee and have told me a little bit about the bill and about Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. I want to join with other members in welcoming the people who have journeyed to Parliament today for the third reading of their settlement bill. This is a significant milestone in an arduous process, but one that will provide opportunities for their future. So I congratulate Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho for their decision to accept this settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003EI listened carefully to the Minister\u2019s contribution on the history of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. It outlines how the Crown has failed in its obligations to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, the result of which has left Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho without the economic base that it once enjoyed. This alone is reason enough to apologise to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, so I support the Minister\u2019s comments about the apology.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003EI understand that there were only two submissions on this bill. I guess that means that everyone must agree with this bill, as it is my experience that if people disagreed with the legislation then the committee would have heard all about it. Therefore I do want to acknowledge the submitters that took time to give their thoughts and their concerns to the committee. I\u2019ve looked carefully at the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee report and it seems very clear to me that the committee have given thoughtful consideration to all the concerns raised with them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003EI would like to mention some of the cultural redress that is part of this settlement. There are provisions made in respect of geographic place names and, in particular, the Pratts Road Historic Reserve is changed to Te Maketu Historic Reserve. I think that it is important that geographic place names are returned to their original names, so I am pleased for Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003EThere are two properties, the Clarks Creek property and the Karaka property, that are to be vested in the trustees in fee simple. This, I believe, is very important. It is important that there is cultural reconnection for Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho to these lands. The H\u016Bnua Falls property is vested in fee simple to be administered as reserves, and I see that there are extensive provisions to be made for the timing of the status and future of improvements owned by the Crown on the property as well as the future joint administration of the property. Finally, there is a cultural revitalisation fund of $590,000 provided as part of the cultural redress. Surely this redress will enable Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho to continue working towards the conservation of their gifted sites. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho negotiators, the Crown negotiator, the officials, and I also acknowledge the Minister, the Hon Andrew Little. This is a very good settlement bill and it will provide excellent opportunities for Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and their future generations. I am certain that they are looking forward to progressing their plans to the future. As one of the last to speak on the final reading of this bill, I\u2019d like to say that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho have waited long enough for their legislation to be passed and I don\u2019t want them to wait any longer, so I commend this bill to the House. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022 data-id=\u00228a3b4649a0154bbcab69e5a679217dfe\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228a3b4649a0154bbcab69e5a679217dfe\u0022\u003ESIMEON BROWN (National\u2014Pakuranga):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you very much, Mr Assistant Speaker, and it\u2019s a pleasure to take a call on this Treaty settlement bill this afternoon here in the House. I\u2019d, firstly, like to just acknowledge all the representatives from Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho who have come to Wellington here today to witness the third reading and the passing of this legislation which is important in their history. I\u2019d especially like to acknowledge the chair, Dennis Kirkwood, who I\u2019ve had the pleasure of working with in the past\u2014and I acknowledge your presence here as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003EThe third reading of this piece of legislation is an opportunity where Parliament formally acknowledges the wrong which was done in New Zealand\u2019s history and apologises for what was done. Reading through the legislation and the history and the agreed statement of facts of what has happened is truly an opportunity for us as Parliament to apologise for the wrongs which were done by the Crown and to provide redress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003ESo it is good to see that this bill does include a number of aspects to the redress. There is the agreed historical account, the Crown acknowledgments and apology, the cultural redress with sites to be vested with joint management of the H\u016Bnua Ranges, and the financial and commercial redress as well, which will go a long way to supporting Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho with their aspirations for their future and for their young people and for the future of their relationship not only with the Crown but also with the community in which they live.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003ESo I just want to acknowledge everything which has been said today and to acknowledge Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, to congratulate them on the settlement, and to wish them all the very best for their future from this day. So thank you very much, Mr Assistant Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022 data-id=\u00223c2ecdff20784bad9bd0fb8443b64d97\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223c2ecdff20784bad9bd0fb8443b64d97\u0022\u003EHon PEENI HENARE (Minister for Wh\u0101nau Ora):\u003C/span\u003E Ka noho tonu ahau ki roto i Te Reo M\u0101ori m\u014D te roanga ake o taku k\u014Drero. Heoi an\u014D e Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho kua riro m\u0101ku nei ng\u0101 k\u014Drero katoa hei whakakapi i roto i Te Whare i te p\u014D nei. E mihi atu ana ahau ki a koutou katoa, ka tautoko atu i ng\u0101 mihi rangatira i utaina ki runga i a koutou, mai i t\u014D koutou taenga mai, kaua i t\u0113nei w\u0101, engari mai i te p\u0101nuitanga tuatahi o t\u0113nei pire, tae noa mai ki t\u0113nei w\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa tautoko an\u014D hoki ng\u0101 aitu\u0101 maha i wahaina mai e t\u0113n\u0101, e t\u0113n\u0101 o Te Whare i te r\u0101 nei. \u0100, kotahi tonu te k\u014Drero m\u014D r\u0101tou kua ngaro atu ki te p\u014D: haere mai, haere. Heoi an\u014D ko t\u0101ku e t\u0101pae atu ana i ng\u0101 aitu\u0101 maha o te w\u0101, \u0101 ko t\u0113r\u0101 kei roto o Ng\u0101i Takoto, ko te p\u0101p\u0101 o Shane Jones kua ngaro atu ki te p\u014D. Kotahi tonu te k\u014Drero: okioki, okioki, okioki. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa whakahokia mai ng\u0101 r\u0101rangi k\u014Drero ki a t\u0101tou, e te p\u0101p\u0101, e Anaru Tarawh\u012Bwhiwhi, t\u0113nei e mihi atu ana ki a koe e te kanohi o Te K\u012Bngi i wahaina mai e t\u014Dku matua nei a Te H\u014Dnore a Wiri Hakihana i te k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki a koutou. E tika ana ko T\u0101maki ki raro, n\u014D reira e mihi atu ana ahau ki a koe e te p\u0101p\u0101 e Anaru, \u0101, me te whakaaro nui ki Te K\u012Bngi M\u0101ori, te K\u012Bngi o te mana motuhake, ar\u0101, ko K\u012Bngi T\u016Bheitia. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EE mihi atu ana ahau ki a koutou e Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. \u0100e, e tika ana i roto i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero kei roto i te pire, \u0101, ka whakap\u0101ha Te Karauna ki a koutou m\u014D ng\u0101 t\u016Bkinotanga a Te Karauna ki a koutou i roto i ng\u0101 tau. Kaua ko ng\u0101 tau tawhito anake, engari ki roto i ng\u0101 tau n\u014D n\u0101ianei tata ake nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira ka noho ahau ki te whakarongo ki ng\u0101 k\u014Drero katoa o Te Whare ka whai whakaaro t\u0113nei uri o Ng\u0101 Puhi, ka p\u0113hea nei a Ng\u0101 Puhi ka whai p\u0101nga ki t\u0113nei kaupapa? He maha ng\u0101 wero kei roto. I kite atu ahau i te tere o t\u014D koutou mahi ki te whakatutuki i t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 ture ki roto i Te Whare, e mihi atu ana, n\u0101, he wero t\u0113n\u0101 ki \u014Dku ake o Ng\u0101 Puhi. Hei aha r\u0101 te t\u014Dmuri mai o ng\u0101 take o Ng\u0101 Puhi, me aro t\u014Dtika atu m\u014D ng\u0101 uri whakatupu te take. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EEngari e mahara atu ana au i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero a \u014Dku m\u0101tua t\u016Bpuna. I te hekenga mai o Ng\u0101 Puhi ki roto o T\u0101maki Makaurau ki roto i ng\u0101 tau, anei te toa a Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, anei ko te toa a Ng\u0101ti Te Ata. I tipi t\u014D haere o \u014Dku m\u0101tua t\u016Bpuna o P\u014Dmare i t\u014D koutou k\u0101inga. He aha te take? Kia kaua a Ng\u0101 Puhi e takariri ki a koutou o Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, n\u0101 runga i te m\u014Dhio, he iwi motuhake, he iwi toa, he iwi rangatira koutou. N\u014D reira, e mihi atu ana ahau ki a koutou, e \u014Dku rangatira. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti, e m\u014Dhio ana t\u0101tou i ng\u0101 mahi t\u016Bkinohia e Te K\u0101wanatanga, e Te Karauna, i a Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. E m\u014Dhio ana ahau, otir\u0101, Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, n\u0101 K\u0101wana Kerei te tohu ki ng\u0101 h\u014Dia, kia hanga i t\u0113tahi huarahi roa rawa atu, ka kai i ng\u0101 whenua o Waikato, \u0101, ko te take nui o taua t\u0101ima ko te raupatu. N\u0101 ko te huarahi matua e k\u012Bia nei ko te Great South Road, ka kai ng\u0101 whenua o Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho e noho mai nei i te r\u0101 nei. N\u014D reira koia r\u0101 t\u0113tahi o ng\u0101 t\u016Bkinotanga mai i te upoko o te motu wh\u0101nui, ar\u0101 ko K\u0101wana Kerei i \u014Dna w\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u0101 ka heke iho mai ki ng\u0101 t\u0101ima i k\u014Drero mai e Te H\u014Dnore Chris Finlayson i a ia e k\u014Drero ana ki roto i Te Whare. Ka k\u014Drero mai Te Minita tawhito m\u014D te \u0101huatanga ki te mahi kaikiri, te mahi kaikiri ki ng\u0101 tamariki mokopuna o te w\u0101 nei. \u0100e m\u0101rika, he aha te take e ohorere ana ki te nuinga o ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata o Aotearoa ki te whakarongo atu i ng\u0101 mahi kaikiri a te P\u0101keh\u0101 ki a Ng\u0101i M\u0101ori ki roto i ng\u0101 tau. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EHeoi an\u014D, ka whakaaro ake ahau ki t\u014Dku tupuna, ki a T\u0101 H\u0113mi Henare. Ka mutu te pakanga tuarua o te ao ki roto i ng\u0101 tau waru tekau, i haere atu t\u014Dku karani p\u0101p\u0101 ki te RSA ki roto o Kawakawa. Heoi an\u014D ko te tohu a te kaiwhakahaere o te RSA, \u201CEi, haere mai e hine ki roto, haere mai ki te kai rama, engari \u014D hoa h\u014Dia M\u0101ori me peia atu ki waho n\u0101 runga i te koretake o koutou, n\u0101 runga i te mahi haurangi o koutou, n\u0101 runga i te take he kiri parauri t\u0101 koutou.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EEhara t\u0113nei i te k\u012B atu kotahi rau tau ki muri, k\u0101hore. E hoa, kei roto i ng\u0101 tau rua tekau, toru tekau kua pahure ake nei, i kite atu t\u0101tou katoa i t\u0113nei t\u016B \u0101huatanga. N\u014D reira ki te rongo atu i Te Minita tawhito Te H\u014Dnore Chris Finlayson e k\u014Drero ana m\u014D t\u0113nei take, \u0101e, e tika ana te k\u014Drero a t\u014Dku matua nei, Te H\u014Dnore a Wiri Hakihana, \u0101e, me k\u014Drerohia w\u0113nei take ki roto i t\u0113nei Whare. Ka mau ki runga i te rikoata o te Hansard ng\u0101 t\u016Bkinotanga o Te Karauna ki a t\u0101ua te M\u0101ori ki roto i ng\u0101 tau, k\u0101ti. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa k\u014Drero a Te H\u014Dnore a Anaru Iti m\u014D te \u0101huatanga o te t\u0101one e m\u014Dhio nei t\u0101tou i \u0113nei rangi ar\u0101 ko P\u014Dkeno. E tika ana me mau ng\u0101 k\u014Drero kei roto i te pire. T\u0101 te mea ko te nuinga o ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata o Aotearoa wh\u0101nui e pahure nei i te huarahi matua o P\u014Dkeno, \u0101, ka tau ki te t\u0101one o mea, o P\u014Dkeno m\u014D te ahikir\u012Bmi te take. Mehemea e m\u014Dhio ana r\u0101tou i te h\u012Btori me ng\u0101 whakapapa o te whenua r\u0101, k\u0101ore e kore ka whai whakaaro an\u014D te hunga P\u0101keh\u0101 ki ng\u0101 mahi i t\u016Bkinohia ai e Te Karauna ng\u0101 hunga kei roto i te t\u0101one e m\u014Dhio nei t\u0101tou a P\u014Dkeno i \u0113nei rangi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti, whakapuhi ake ahau i te k\u014Drero a Te Minita tawhito e p\u0101 ana ki ng\u0101 take kei roto i ng\u0101 pire, ar\u0101 ko ng\u0101 overlapping interests. Hei t\u0101na hei aha r\u0101 te whawhai, me aro atu ki ng\u0101 tau me ng\u0101 mahi kei mua i te aroaro. \u0100e m\u0101rika. Ko t\u0101ku atu ki a ia, otir\u0101 ki t\u0113nei Whare, e tautoko atu ana ahau i te t\u016B o Ng\u0101i M\u0101ori tukuna m\u0101 te tikanga w\u0113nei t\u016B \u0101huatanga hei whakatikatika. Kaua ko te ture. Mehemea ka whakakohatungia ki roto i te ture, \u0101e, ka wehe Ng\u0101i T\u0101ua te M\u0101ori. Ka whawhai a Ng\u0101i T\u0101ua te M\u0101ori ki a Ng\u0101i T\u0101ua te M\u0101ori. Mehemea ka whakamanahia ki roto i te pire, anei, ko t\u0113nei w\u0101hi ki a koutou, engari ko t\u0113nei w\u0101hi, an\u0101, kei a koutou t\u0113tahi atu r\u014Dp\u016B. He take nui t\u0113n\u0101 o te w\u0101 nei, he take nui t\u0113n\u0101 o te w\u0101 nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, ko t\u0101ku atu ki te iwi M\u0101ori, ar\u0101 ki a Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho e noho mai nei, \u0101ta whakaarohia, kia t\u016Bpato, kia mataara, kia mataara. Kia kaua e tukuna m\u0101 te ture P\u0101keh\u0101 t\u0101tou an\u014D wehewehe ai. N\u014D reira he wero t\u0113n\u0101 kaua ki a Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho anake, engari ki te tini o ng\u0101 iwi k\u012Bhei i tutuki i w\u0101 r\u0101tou take ker\u0113me ki mua i te aroaro o Te Karauna. An\u0101, ko Ng\u0101 Puhi t\u0113r\u0101, an\u0101 ko \u0113tahi atu o ng\u0101 mana whenua ki roto o T\u0101maki Makaurau. N\u014D reira taihoa ake nei t\u0101tou ka kite mehemea ka taea Te Minita o \u0113nei rangi te whakatutuki ng\u0101 moemoe\u0101 o ng\u0101 iwi, ar\u0101 ko Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho e noho mai nei ki runga me ng\u0101 iwi o ng\u0101 mana whenua ki roto o T\u0101maki Makaurau. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti, ehara i te mea ohorere ki t\u0113nei Whare e toru ng\u0101 w\u0101hanga o t\u0113nei pire: ar\u0101 ko te whakap\u0101ha, n\u0101, ki roto tonu i te whakap\u0101ha ko te r\u012Bpoata o ng\u0101 t\u016Bkinohia a Te Karauna ki a Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho k\u0101tahi. Ka rua, an\u0101, ko te \u0101huatanga ki roto i ng\u0101 mahi whakahoki atu i ng\u0101 whenua me te mahi whakahaere i ng\u0101 whenua ki a Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. Kua k\u014Drero mai Te Whare m\u014D te \u0101huatanga ki ng\u0101 wairere ki Hunua. N\u014D reira e mihi atu ana ahau ki t\u0113r\u0101 t\u016B \u0101huatanga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa mutu ko te w\u0101hanga tuatoru o te pire. Ka whakaritea nei ki roto i te pire i \u0113tahi \u0101huatanga ka whai reo an\u014D a Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho ki ng\u0101 mahi e p\u0101 ana ki a r\u0101tou, me ng\u0101 whenua kei roto i w\u0101 r\u0101tou ake rohe. N\u014D reira, heoi an\u014D, ka k\u012B atu ahau ki a Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho i t\u0113nei w\u0101, \u0101, ka k\u012B mai t\u0113nei Whare me p\u0113nei, engari ko te wero nui ka k\u012B atu Te Kaunihera o T\u0101maki Makaurau me p\u0113r\u0101. N\u0113? Kia t\u016Bpato, kia mataara. \u0100e, ahakoa ng\u0101 k\u014Drero o t\u0113nei Whare, he whare an\u014D kei roto o T\u0101maki, he kaiwhakahaere an\u014D kei roto o T\u0101maki, ar\u0101, ko Te H\u014Dnore a Phil Goff t\u0113r\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EHeoi an\u014D e Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, kua tata pau te w\u0101hanga ki ahau. Heoi an\u014D, ko t\u0101ku e mea atu ana ki a koutou e \u014Dku rangatira, m\u0101 te atua koutou e manaaki, e tiaki, mai i t\u014D koutou wehenga atu i Te Whare nei, kia tae pai ai koutou ki roto o ng\u0101 w\u0101 k\u0101inga o Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, puta noa i te motu wh\u0101nui, e \u014Dku rangatira, e te p\u0101p\u0101 e Anaru, koutou ng\u0101 m\u0101tua, ng\u0101 t\u016Bpuna, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E[I will remain in the M\u0101ori language for the duration of my speech. And so, Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, it is up to me to conclude all the speeches delivered tonight in the House. I acknowledge you all and reinforce the esteemed greetings that have been lavished upon you, right from the time of your arrival, not this time but at the first reading of this bill, right through until this time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI also support the many deceased who are connected to those of the House today. There is only one thing to say about those who have departed to the dark realms: welcome, go. What I have to add to the many deaths of this time is the death within Ng\u0101i Takoto, the father of Shane Jones, who has gone to the dark realms. Only one thing can be said: rest, rest, rest in peace.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThe threads of my speech now return to us. Sir, Anaru Tarawh\u012Bwhiwhi, I greet you, the representative of the King who was addressed by my elder the Hon Willie Jackson in his speech about you all. It is correct that T\u0101maki is below, therefore I greet you sir, Anaru, and acknowledge the M\u0101ori King, the King of our independence, that is, King T\u016Bheitia. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI greet you Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. Yes, what is said within the narrative of the bill is correct, and the Crown apologises to you for the ill-treatment by the Crown to you throughout the years. Not just in years gone by, but also in very recent years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EAnd so, while I sat and listened to all the speeches from the House, this descendant of Ng\u0101 Puhi pondered, how does Ng\u0101 Puhi relate to this issue? It holds many challenges. I saw how quickly you worked to achieve this law in the House, I acknowledge that, and it is a challenge to my own of Ng\u0101 Puhi. What is the point of the claims of Ng\u0101 Puhi trailing behind, we should take heed with the purpose of benefiting our descendants. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EHowever, I recollect what was said by my ancestors. When Ng\u0101 Puhi travelled down to Auckland throughout the years, here is the victor, Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, here is the victor, Ng\u0101ti Te Aka. My ancestors, including P\u014Dmare, called in at your home. What for? So that Ng\u0101 Puhi wouldn\u2019t vex you of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, knowing full well that you are an independent tribe, a brave tribe, a chiefly tribe. Accordingly, I greet you, my noble ones. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWell then, we know about the unjust deeds by the Government, the Crown, to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. I know, and indeed, Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, it was Governor Grey who instructed the soldiers to build a very long road and consume the lands of Waikato, and the main purpose at that time was confiscation. The main road, which is known as the Great South Road, consumed the lands of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, who are sitting here today. Hence that was one of the destructive acts by the head of the country; that is, by Governor Grey, in his time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EAnd right through to the times that were spoken about by the Hon Chris Finlayson when he spoke in the House. The former Minister spoke about the features of racism, racism towards children and grandchildren of this time. Yes indeed, why should most of the people of New Zealand be surprised to hear about the racist acts by P\u0101keh\u0101 towards M\u0101ori throughout the years? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EAnd so I think about my ancestor Sir H\u0113mi Henare. After the end of the Second World War, in the 80s, my paternal grandmother went to the RSA in Kawakawa. But the manager of the RSA said to her, \u201CGee, come inside girl, come to drink rum, but your M\u0101ori soldier friends must be banished outside because you are so useless, because you get so drunk, because you have brown skin.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI am not saying this happened 100 years ago, no. Friends, within the last 20 or 30 years, we have all seen this sort of thing. Consequently, when I hear the former Minister the Hon Chris Finlayson speaking about this topic, yes, what was said by my elder the Hon Willie Jackson is correct; yes, these topics should be spoken about in this House. The unjust behaviour by the Crown to us the M\u0101ori people throughout the years will be captured on the record provided by Hansard, and that is right.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThe Hon Andrew Little spoke about the state of the town we know today as P\u014Dkeno. It is appropriate that those stories should be captured within the bill. Because most people of wider New Zealand traverse the main road of P\u014Dkeno, and they stop at that town, at P\u014Dkeno, for an ice cream. If they knew of the history and the genealogy of that land, then no doubt the P\u0101keh\u0101 people would consider the unjust treatment by the Crown to the people of the town we know today as P\u014Dkeno. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWell then, I will further indulge what was said by the former Minister about the topics within the bills, namely the overlapping interests. What he said was to forget about quarrelling, and look instead towards the years and the tasks ahead. Yes indeed. What I say to him, and indeed to this House, is that I support the stance of M\u0101ori to leave it to customary practices to resolve this sort of thing. Not the law. If it becomes cemented in law, yes, we the M\u0101ori people will be divided. We, the M\u0101ori people, will be fighting ourselves, the M\u0101ori people. If it is legitimised by the bill, then here you are, this bit goes to you, but this bit goes to another group. This is an important issue in these times, an important issue in these times. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThus, what I say to M\u0101ori tribes, and to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho sitting before me, is to carefully consider, be careful, be alert, be vigilant. Do not let the P\u0101keh\u0101 law divide us. Therefore, this is a challenge not only to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho but to the multitude of iwi who haven\u2019t completed their claims with the Crown. Indeed, that includes Ng\u0101 Puhi, and others as well who have territorial rights within Auckland. For that reason we will soon see whether the Minister of these days can meet the aspirations of the tribes, of Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho to the south and the tribes with territorial rights within Auckland. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWell then, it won\u2019t surprise this House that there are three sections to this bill: that is the apology, and within the apology is the report on the unjust treatment by the Crown to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, firstly; secondly, the aspects about returning lands and their management to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho. The House has spoken about the matters relating to the waterfalls in Hunua. Therefore I acknowledge those matters. Furthermore, the third section of the bill. The bill provides several functions so that Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho will regain a say about actions that impact them, and the lands within their own territory.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ETherefore, and so I say to Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho at this time, this House says it should be thus, but the big challenge will be if the Auckland Council says something else. Eh? Be careful, be vigilant. Yes, despite what this House has said, there is another house in Auckland, and another manager in Auckland, that is the Hon Phil Goff. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EAnd so, Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho, my time is nearly up. There is nothing else but to say to you, my esteemed ones, may God care for and protect you from when you depart from this House until you arrive safely back at your homes within Ng\u0101ti Tamaoho and throughout the country. My revered people, sir, Anaru, all of you, the elders and ancestors: thanks and best wishes to everyone here.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWaiata\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002226d26cf75fff4e91b4e71470fbc6d3a2\u0022\u003EAmerica\u2019s Cup Road Stopping Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00225889027ecd8e41c2887df8a05628cc15\u0022\u003EFirst Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u00226c5e6da3529446d5b8b43787f644d411\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226c5e6da3529446d5b8b43787f644d411\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: I call the Hon Chris Finlayson\u2014ah, Kris Faafoi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022 data-id=\u002217e7575811fa4b788652f2fc94f3a80f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002217e7575811fa4b788652f2fc94f3a80f\u0022\u003EHon KRIS FAAFOI (Minister of Civil Defence) \u003C/span\u003Eon behalf of the Minister for Economic Development: Mr Assistant Speaker, I\u2019m not sure who\u2019s going to take offence! I move, That the America\u2019s Cup Road Stopping Bill be now read a first time. I nominate the Environment Committee to consider the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EAt the appropriate time, I intend to move that the bill be reported to the House by Monday, 3 September 2018, and that the committee have authority to meet at any time while the House is sitting, except during oral questions, during any evening on a day on which there has been a sitting of the House, and on a Friday in a week in which there has been a sitting of the House, and outside the Wellington area, despite Standing Orders 191, 193, 194(1)(b), and 194(1)(c).\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EThe purpose of the America\u2019s Cup Road Stopping Bill is to support construction relating to and the operation of the 36th America\u2019s Cup in Auckland by permanently stopping a portion of Brigham Street on Wynyard Point. Hosting the America\u2019s Cup has the potential to bring economic, social, and cultural benefits to New Zealand. Cost-benefit analysis estimates are neutral or a slightly positive return on investment, and shows that the America\u2019s Cup could generate economic benefits of between $600 million and $1 billion over the period of 2018 to 2021. In addition, there are expected leverage and legacy benefits for all New Zealanders, particularly the continued revitalisation of Auckland\u2019s waterfront and reputational, cultural, and national pride effects.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EThe Government announced in March that the Wynyard-Hobson option has been selected as the location for the 36th America\u2019s Cup. Negotiating the Wynyard-Hobson option required cooperation between central government, local government, and Emirates Team New Zealand. The final agreed option resulted in a major cost reduction for taxpayers and Auckland ratepayers of more than $50 million compared to other options, with an intrusion into the harbour of only 6,600 square metres compared to other options which envisaged intrusions of up to 22,800 square metres. As well as being less expensive and creating a smaller harbour intrusion than other options, the Wynyard-Hobson option also allows the earlier removal of hazardous substance tanks from the southern part of Wynyard Point. It is more straightforward to consent and creates a positive legacy for Auckland. It is a venue that all New Zealanders can be and will be proud of.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EFor the Wynyard-Hobson option to be viable, a portion of Brigham Street on the Wynyard Point needs to be stopped by early November 2018 to enable construction of syndicate bases, which will stretch across Brigham Street to enable boats to be launched from the Wynyard Wharf during the America\u2019s Cup regatta itself. The portion of road to be stopped is currently owned by the Auckland Council and managed by Auckland Transport. The America\u2019s Cup Road Stopping Bill will permanently stop the road by removing the road status of a portion of Brigham Street, and allow for the Auckland Council, as owner, to apply for title to the former portion of road.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EAs the landowner, Auckland Council will be responsible for stopping vehicle and public access to the land, to enable construction and event activities to occur. A new link road connecting Hamer Street and Brigham Street will be created to enable continued access to Wynyard Point. The portion of Brigham Street is required to be stopped by 1 November to allow construction to start, and for this reason, I move that the select committee report back in a shortened time frame of two months on 3 September 2018. This will allow the bill to be passed by 1 November 2018.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003ELegislation is being pursued because normal road stopping processes under the Local Government Act 1974 and the Public Works Act 1981 were unable to stop the road in the required time frame. Road stopping under the Local Government Act would take a minimum of six to 12 months, which would not enable the construction to begin by November this year. As Brigham Street directly abuts the water, stopping the road under the Public Works Act would trigger the requirement to provide an esplanade reserve along the water\u2019s edge. As construction and operation of the bases requires launching facilities up to the water\u2019s edge, such a reserve would not be compatible with the construction and operation of the America\u2019s Cup. If we were to stop the road under the Public Works Act, we would, therefore, need to apply to revoke the esplanade requirements. This process would take up to 90 months, which, again, would not enable the construction to begin by November of this year. For these reasons, we have proceeded with the use of legislation for stopping a portion of the road, which is in the House now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EOfficials are seeking written approval to the road stopping from affected tenants and have consulted the Auckland Council, Auckland Transport, and Panuku Development Auckland on the road stopping. As ownership of the land will remain with Auckland Council, the Office of Treaty Settlements have advised that as there appears to be no Crown interests in the land, there are therefore no implications for the T\u0101maki Collective or any other right of first refusal. Officials have been engaging with mana whenua in Auckland on the development of infrastructure for the America\u2019s Cup and will continue to engage with iwi as part of the larger America\u2019s Cup project and on the road stopping on Brigham Street.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003EThis is a specific bill with limited impact which will ensure that the portion of Brigham Street can be stopped in a timely manner to enable the construction of the syndicate bases for the America\u2019s Cup. This bill has no wider application in respect of any other road stopping. So I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022 data-id=\u0022602697b1a672458eaea03d35c3af06f9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022602697b1a672458eaea03d35c3af06f9\u0022\u003EJAMI-LEE ROSS (National\u2014Botany):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you very much. The National Party will be supporting the America\u2019s Cup Road Stopping Bill. We also will not be opposing the shortened report-back period for the Environment Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s clear that it\u2019s very unusual for the Parliament to pass legislation which overrides local government processes and overrides the Public Works Act, but where there are important issues and circumstances that require the Parliament to do that we should be willing to do so, and certainly New Zealand hosting the America\u2019s Cup in several years\u2019 time is one of those important issues. The issue we have before us is, simply, whether a road should be stopped. It\u2019s about whether this can be done in a faster manner than what the normal processes would allow, and we think it\u2019s fairly sensible for a piece of legislation to be used for that purpose.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000436\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003EThe America\u2019s Cup is going to be a huge economic benefit for New Zealanders. I think it\u2019s also going to be quite a social and cultural benefit for New Zealanders as well as we showcase our country to the rest of the world. And, certainly, the America\u2019s Cup is an issue and an event of national significance for New Zealand. It\u2019s quite appropriate that where an event of national significance is to occur, we consider ways in which we can enable the Auckland Council and other authorities to progress matters to do with the arrangements for hosting the event. That\u2019s, essentially, what this bill does.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000437\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003EWe know from the previous instances where New Zealand has hosted the America\u2019s Cup that the infrastructure that\u2019s been created around that regatta is infrastructure that Aucklanders, and I think New Zealanders, are quite proud of. It\u2019s my hope that after the America\u2019s Cup is complete\u2014and, of course, we will be successful again in future regattas\u2014that we\u2019ll be able to see infrastructure constructed around Wynyard Quarter that will benefit us for many years to come.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000438\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022163d0b68-eb0e-4094-9bed-99e184f063e1\u0022\u003ETo ensure that we enable these processes to be done smoothly and expeditiously, we support this bill so that can happen. Aucklanders are going to be proud of hosting the regatta. New Zealanders are going to be proud to see our country on the world stage, and getting Auckland up and running and ready for the event is important. I support this bill, and we will not be opposing it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002236c8c596-d890-4cca-9767-1eeb5c9ce710\u0022 data-id=\u0022aec0272c4c4d413e8fa4cd6311f5a1bd\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000439\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002236c8c596-d890-4cca-9767-1eeb5c9ce710\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022aec0272c4c4d413e8fa4cd6311f5a1bd\u0022\u003EDARROCH BALL (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. I rise on behalf of New Zealand First to take a quick call in support of this bill, and we support all the recommendations that the Minister has put forward. I just want to make a couple of quick points about the seemingly inconsequential bill itself. I suppose it is in regards to the amount of legislation that is changing, but it is actually quite substantial in the effect that it will have in the planning, facilitation, and function of a very important and worthwhile sporting event that New Zealand will be hosting on the world stage.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000440\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002236c8c596-d890-4cca-9767-1eeb5c9ce710\u0022\u003EAs has already been noted, it\u2019s actually making quite a quick passage, and will be making quite a quick passage, through this House, and that is important because it provides certainty with the time in preparation for the cup to be hosted, especially the planning area. Although this seems like a small thing in regards to having to stop a road from being a road, essentially\u2014or a small part of it\u2014on the waterfront, it\u2019s essential for the planning of the cup itself and where all of the public and the different teams will be able to function.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000441\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002236c8c596-d890-4cca-9767-1eeb5c9ce710\u0022\u003EI think that some people in this country are questioning\u2014it is a minority, but it is questioning\u2014the investment that New Zealand will be making into the hosting of this big sporting event. I\u2019m not sure if the Minister mentioned it, but the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment actually did a high-level economic assessment on the hosting of the cup, and they noted some important things. There are some very, very positive economic impacts, not only in the short term, when we\u2019ll be hosting the cup, but over the medium and long term as well. And any of those costs that will be invested into the infrastructure, especially, and the running of the cup itself will far outweigh the costs. There\u2019s a list of things that are beneficial for this country as a whole, both in the short term and the long term. I think one of the things that a lot of people underestimate is the exposure that we get in the international media as a country as a whole. I think that the potential value of \u201CBrand New Zealand\u201D will have a huge boost because of the exposure that we have.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002236c8c596-d890-4cca-9767-1eeb5c9ce710\u0022\u003EJust lastly, a point from, I believe it was, the last host, which was Bermuda, and a couple of the comments from the Minister that was in charge of hosting that event in Bermuda. They noted the importance of the infrastructure change that they made to host the event, and they had a cost-benefit ratio in the vicinity of one to five. So, if we put in just a small investment that will ensure that the cup is held successfully, that it flows smoothly, and that it has a lasting infrastructure\u2014not just a small one or short-term one, but a long-term one\u2014I think that New Zealand and the public of New Zealand and the international community will be better off for it. We support this bill. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022943fd636-21ec-4442-9a72-68c49464776f\u0022 data-id=\u00223e4ed86449c149568f623e208d93d537\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000443\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022943fd636-21ec-4442-9a72-68c49464776f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223e4ed86449c149568f623e208d93d537\u0022\u003EDENISE LEE (National\u2014Maungakiekie):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you so much, Mr Assistant Speaker. It\u2019s fantastic to stand and take this call to support the passage of this bill, the America\u2019s Cup Road Stopping Bill, and to be able to add to prior speakers\u2019 comments around what a fantastic event this will be and how we can get in behind what this will do to \u201CBrand New Zealand\u201D and to, once again, take back the cup, which we, so deservedly, have taken on and have won. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000444\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022943fd636-21ec-4442-9a72-68c49464776f\u0022\u003EI\u2019m a proud Aucklander. Auckland has a very proud sailing heritage. It\u2019s been called the City of Sails for a long time, apart from the time when Auckland Tourism, Events and Economic Development tried something a little bit dubious and looked at a different logo and perhaps a different byline that didn\u2019t go over well for the five minutes that it lasted. The City of Sails is what we\u2019ve always been known as, and this will absolutely activate and underscore that adage that we know and we love so well. This event will also unlock a new generation of yachties. We love to be on the water and we love to be in Auckland, and I\u2019m sure every one of my colleagues would agree with that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000445\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022943fd636-21ec-4442-9a72-68c49464776f\u0022\u003EWynyard Point, in the context for which this road stoppage will take place, is a fantastic area that will be unlocked. When you sail into\u2014no pun intended\u2014events like this, it provides leverage for you to do much more than just the event itself. So the council and councillors will be incredibly proud to not only undergird and be part of this event but they will have, going forward, facilities that will serve Aucklanders long term and not just in the short term. There are other leveraged events and business connections that can come out of this event, so for us to do our bit here and to mechanically do something so small as to unlock 0.322 hectares and take it from being owned by Auckland Council and managed by Auckland Transport. and put it into the hands of the America\u2019s Cup team, I guess you could say, is something that we support and it is the right thing to do. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000446\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022943fd636-21ec-4442-9a72-68c49464776f\u0022\u003EThere are also tangible and non-tangible benefits. Under \u201Ctangible\u201D will be that as a result of this bill, you\u2019ll be able to cross the road and experience the syndicates and the base\u2019s connections to the water, and, of course the \u201Cnon-tangible\u201D is the spirit of the event\u2014the joy that Aucklanders and the rest of the country will receive from seeing the transformation down at Wynyard Point in wonderful, sunny Auckland. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000447\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022943fd636-21ec-4442-9a72-68c49464776f\u0022\u003EI\u2019m going to finish by saying I wish Team New Zealand well\u2014we all do, of course. It was a real privilege, from the National Government\u2019s perspective, to commit $5 million instantly when the Bermuda win took place. We knew that that $5 million was needed to secure staffing, to make sure that our fantastic men and women in Team New Zealand didn\u2019t go anywhere and stayed with New Zealand, because we want another win again. Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. We\u2019re proud to support this.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000448\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022943fd636-21ec-4442-9a72-68c49464776f\u0022\u003EBill read a first time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000449\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022943fd636-21ec-4442-9a72-68c49464776f\u0022\u003EBill referred to the Environment Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u002220699620c36a42daa9bd227f54b80268\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002220699620c36a42daa9bd227f54b80268\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Justice)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Economic Development: I move, That the America\u2019s Cup Road Stopping Bill be reported to the House by Monday, 3 September 2018, and that the committee have authority to meet at any time while the House is sitting (except during oral questions), during any evening on a day on which there has been a sitting of the House, and on a Friday in a week in which there has been a sitting of the House, and outside the Wellington area, despite Standing Orders 191, 193, and 194(1)(b) and (c).\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ac5233c5c30745b291b6a7d6043e069a\u0022\u003EExclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002206f339bccd0e490ab7c846548ced5d89\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u0022b0f8f9976e664583979169528334cafc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b0f8f9976e664583979169528334cafc\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Minister of Housing and Urban Development)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for the Environment: I move, That the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000455\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThe bill will correct an oversight in the legislation that manages the effects of activities in our offshore environment and ensure that the cost recovery regime can operate fairly. A new board of inquiry process for deciding certain marine consent applications was added to the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Act\u2014the EEZ Act\u2014in 2017 through the Resource Legislation Amendment Act. An additional provision is needed now to allow recovery from an applicant of board of inquiry costs. That power was not created at the time of the amendment, which means that those costs currently fall to the Crown.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000456\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThis bill will give effect to the intended policy by providing for cost recovery in respect of boards of inquiry. The bill was examined by the Environment Committee in a short select committee stage, and I would like to acknowledge their consideration and the scrutiny that they provided to this piece of legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EI would also like to acknowledge the New Zealand Law Society, who wrote to the Environment Committee and to the Minister for the Environment concerning this bill. Their correspondence included, among other things, a suggestion to clarify that existing cost recovery provisions in the EEZ Act will continue to apply, and that suggestion was reflected in a drafting change made by Supplementary Order Paper 48 at the committee stage.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThis bill is urgent, technical, and intended to give effect to existing policy settings. It was not considered appropriate to contemplate broader policy changes in relation to the bill. A more comprehensive review of the resource management system will be considered next year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThe EEZ Act regulates activities in New Zealand\u2019s exclusive economic zone and extended continental shelf in order to promote sustainable management of natural resources and protect the environment from pollution. The case by case consideration of applications for marine consent for discretionary activities is an important function in achieving that purpose. This bill will now align the cost recovery model for EEZ boards of inquiry with other processes under both the EEZ Act and the Resource Management Act. The bill will provide for the Minister for the Environment to recover from the applicant the actual and reasonable costs of a board of inquiry appointed to decide an application for marine consent.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s important that the Government acts fairly and transparently when recovering costs. The bill sets out criteria that the Minister must have regard to when recovering costs from an applicant and requires the Minister to provide an estimate of the costs likely to be recovered at the request of the applicant. Board of inquiry costs will not be recovered for applications made before the amendment comes into force.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThe Environmental Protection Authority (EPA) is the key agency that manages marine consent processes. This amendment will enable the Minister to delegate cost recovery and the provision of estimates to the EPA. It will provide that the costs of a board of inquiry are a debt due to the Crown, recoverable by the EPA in a court of competent jurisdiction. The amendment will not affect the EPA\u2019s existing power to recover the costs of its functions under the Act.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000462\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EIn short, the change will ensure that the marine consent process for all activities results in a private cost, just as it results in a private benefit, and I support the third reading of this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022 data-id=\u002225ba20827f554333b47c0b8e3429ae42\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000463\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002225ba20827f554333b47c0b8e3429ae42\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON (National\u2014Coromandel):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. The Minister who\u2019s just resumed his seat, Phil Twyford, has, I think, captured the essence of this amendment bill. It is a small technical bill that is required to correct a drafting error that was made to the Resource Legislation Amendment Act legislation that took place during the last Parliament. There was a very large and complicated piece of legislation\u2014ran to some 700 individual clauses and about 250 pages of legislation\u2014and as a result of a drafting error, the intent that was meant from Cabinet to actually enable the Environmental Protection Authority and the Minister to recover costs associated with the board of inquiry application relating to a marine consent was omitted. So this piece of legislation corrects that. It means that the obligations to fund are apportioned correctly and appropriately to the seeker of the consent rather than to the Crown, and that was always the intent.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000464\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThe Opposition doesn\u2019t oppose this. We understand the rationale and accept the way in which it has gone forward. The Environment Committee operated a very truncated process, which was befitting the narrowness of this amendment and the time frames that were required to meet pending applications that might soon come to pass.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000465\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EI think that with the exception of the contribution from the Law Society, we would have been able to probably pass this in a very, very quick way, but the Law Society came to select committee, funnily enough, after the select committee had reported back to the House, with a written submission that was then taken into account by the Minister for the Environment by way of a separate Supplementary Order Paper, that the Minister who\u2019s just spoken has referred to. That is appropriate and right as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ESo I want to acknowledge and thank the Law Society for their contribution to this bill. Their diligent and careful analysis of it has meant that we\u2019ve actually, I think, arrived at a better bill. This is the kind of drafting error that occurs from time to time, and it would be very unfair to apportion blame to the hard-working and diligent officers of the Parliamentary Counsel Office who do the drafting and who have to make these things work. It\u2019s a complicated process, and I think that they almost always do a good job. It\u2019s not every day that a situation arises where this has occurred; normally, it doesn\u2019t.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EI\u2019ve heard Government members in earlier contributions on this bill take quite a sanctimonious approach, trying to apportion blame, somehow, to the previous Government for some kind of deliberate oversight. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Cabinet minutes make it very clear that this was always the intent of the legislation, that it was always meant to be, and to apportion that kind of blame is actually to unfairly, in my view, criticise the hard-working and diligent folk who make up the Parliamentary Counsel Office. I think that that would be terribly unfair of Government members if they were to pursue that line of debate in this third reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000468\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EHer Majesty\u2019s loyal and hard-working Opposition support this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022 data-id=\u00223fd6da575dfc4feeb47454e68a371488\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000469\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223fd6da575dfc4feeb47454e68a371488\u0022\u003EJENNY MARCROFT (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Assistant Speaker. Thank you for the opportunity to stand and speak on the third reading of this, the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Amendment Bill. It\u2019s a pleasure to support this bill on behalf of New Zealand First. As has been mentioned throughout the passage of this bill through the House, this is a very narrow scope, this bill\u2014a bit of a housekeeping legislation as we tidy up a small technical fault, a minor fault, in the original Act. So I won\u2019t take a very long call\u2014a short call on this, just pointing out our support of this bill and to ensure that it is safely through the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000470\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EWe do note that before this amendment was put before the House, there was one submission to apply for a marine consent, which has resulted in the Crown taking the cost of the board of inquiry. So with the swift passing of this bill, there will be no future costs to the Crown relating to a board of inquiry, and that\u2019s a very good thing. So New Zealand First does support the tenor of if it is for private gain, then the private organisation should incur that cost. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000471\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EI\u2019d just like to note that New Zealand First and, in fact, this Government values our marine environment and is committed to genuinely sustainable approaches to the management of our seas and our sea life. I\u2019d just like to note that yesterday, in another committee\u2014the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee\u2014we were lucky enough to have a group of children from P\u0101tea, who have their own issue that they have had in their rohe around seabed mining. They brought to us this wonderful array of beautiful kai moana, and the Environment Committee have actually said, \u201CWe would like them to come and bring their kai moana into the Environment Committee.\u201D But, back to the bill, I note that our Government certainly values our marine environment and will genuinely look towards sustainable approaches to the management of our seas and our sea life, and on that I commend this bill to the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022 data-id=\u0022f662cc3336fc4e3098cb253b3ae5d19c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000472\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f662cc3336fc4e3098cb253b3ae5d19c\u0022\u003ETODD MULLER (National\u2014Bay of Plenty):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. I rise to take a very short call on the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Amendment Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000473\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003ELook, this very small, technical amendment has been significantly traversed. In fact, when it was first raised as an issue, I think both sides of the House very quickly saw that this was just simply a quick tidy-up to ensure the intent of the legislation when it was passed last year, which was\u2014to repeat\u2014that if there was a board of inquiry, the costs associated with the board of inquiry assessing the benefits or otherwise of a marine consent needed to be borne by the applicant\u2014very simple. It aligns with the other particular Acts and regimes that we have in place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000474\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003EAs you know, we suggested that this could be done very quickly as part of a statutes amendment bill. Indeed, we were prepared to deal with it all in one hit. Ultimately, the Government decided that we should take it to a very truncated select committee process. We did that, with limited feedback from potential participants\u2014all in favour. Then we got, as noted, this rather late but valuable observation from the Law Commission, who, essentially, signalled that there was an opportunity for further clarification. The Minister for the Environment\u2014, through Supplementary Order Paper 48, has done that. Again, I\u2019m not going to traverse that. It\u2019s highly technical, but it does provide absolute clarity with respect to the application of this regime.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000475\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s not a huge cost\u2014total exposure to the Crown is perceived to be $1.6 million\u2014but we need to treat these approaches in a consistent way. When it became clear that there was a potential opportunity for a private benefactor who was putting through a marine consent to not have to bear the cost of that board of inquiry, then, clearly, we needed to move. We\u2019ve done that. It has no negative perspective from any speaker; we\u2019re all in favour of it. We\u2019re in the third reading, and I think it\u2019s time for us to move on, support this, and get on to some more substantive matters in front of the House. I support this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e122e0e6-61c6-4d17-9a79-6ad2ac7d127e\u0022 data-id=\u00220e1deb9d127d48bd9749c4f24cac66cb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000476\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e122e0e6-61c6-4d17-9a79-6ad2ac7d127e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220e1deb9d127d48bd9749c4f24cac66cb\u0022\u003EHon EUGENIE SAGE (Green Party):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Assistant Speaker; thank you. On behalf of the Green Party, I am pleased to support the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Amendment Bill\u2014. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000477\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e122e0e6-61c6-4d17-9a79-6ad2ac7d127e\u0022\u003ELike other speakers, I will be brief, because Jenny Marcroft made the comment that, in terms of seabed mining, the petition to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and some of the advice that came through on this bill was that the seabed mining applications, which a decision-making committee had decided as part of the Environmental Protection Authority\u2019s (EPA\u2019s) functions under the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Act (EEZ Act), had averaged approximately $2 million. And so what this bill does, as others have noted, is ensure that the applicant for the marine consent under the EEZ Act pays the cost of a board of inquiry hearing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000478\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e122e0e6-61c6-4d17-9a79-6ad2ac7d127e\u0022\u003EWe now have boards of inquiry under the EEZ Act, as happens under the Resource Management Act, rather than decision-making panels for notified marine consent applications. And the fact that applicants pay the cost of the decision-making panel means, of course, that the Crown doesn\u2019t have to pay that cost, and that is because the applicant is seeking to use a public, common-property resource, a public space, in the exclusive economic zone, and it\u2019s appropriate that applicants actually pay for the costs of processing those applications\u2014that it\u2019s not borne by the wider public. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000479\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e122e0e6-61c6-4d17-9a79-6ad2ac7d127e\u0022\u003ESo this is a technical fix-up. It\u2019s a small, perfectly formed bill. It\u2019s the work of a Minister who\u2019s actively engaged in ensuring that the legislation in the environment space works well. I thank the work of the Environment Committee in bringing it back to the House, and officials. The Green Party supports the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022 data-id=\u0022e5eb84befb5b41968dc9141c8a2caf49\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000480\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e5eb84befb5b41968dc9141c8a2caf49\u0022\u003EERICA STANFORD (National\u2014East Coast Bays):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. I\u2019m very pleased to take a call on the Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf (Environmental Effects) Amendment Bill at its third reading. This bill was what should have been a short stroll but ended up being somewhat more of a marathon\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000481\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002253b78bf387c0403bb25319db14632bd3\u0022\u003ESimeon Brown\u003C/span\u003E: A maritime marathon.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000482\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228b5d6ad338a74588baa7a3b7379b98c3\u0022\u003EERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: A maritime marathon\u2014that\u2019s right, Mr Simeon Brown. The fact is that, in essence, this really should have been a very short, truncated process because it was just a simple fix-up. It was a drafting error, as happens with lots of these large, complex pieces of legislation. But despite this, I think it was at the first reading, the second reading, and the committee stage, the Minister for the Environment, Mr Parker, decided to gain some political point scoring over this and did get up a few times and try and make what, really, was an anthill into a huge hill, trying to apportion blame, as Mr Simpson said earlier, to say that this was an example of a wider problem with the original legislation, which it really wasn\u2019t.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000483\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022efc2bf6ee1ec40879a2d3bf23e933fbc\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: I recognise that the member is new, but a third reading speech is as the committee has accepted it to be, not the debate on the second reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000484\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f98269614cf54f909e38b095b2433268\u0022\u003EERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, sir. Thank you for your guidance. Basically, I want to take only a short call on this. As I said, it is simply a short fix-up, remedying what was a drafting error in the original legislation. It really should have been done as part of a statutes amendment bill; it wasn\u2019t. However, here we are at the third reading, and I want to thank the Environment Committee, which I sat on, for all their hard work. It was, in the end, a very short, truncated process despite many people from the Government getting up and saying, in their speeches, that it should have had a full process. But never mind; we won\u2019t go into that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000485\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003ESo here we are at the third reading. It was a simple drafting error that needed a full select committee process, according to the Government, but then didn\u2019t have one. But it probably did need one, given that we have a Supplementary Order Paper. I am glad that the marathon is finally over, and I commend this bill to the House. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000486\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000487\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00226edd7bdffb0343d4aeae23bb438cf5b8\u0022\u003ESittings of the House\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000489\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022174b94b924b64edf820748d4a5ad2252\u0022\u003ESittings of the House\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022 data-id=\u0022c0814d4a3bcd412eb05cb56e39b371c9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000488\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c0814d4a3bcd412eb05cb56e39b371c9\u0022\u003EKIERAN McANULTY (Junior Whip\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E The House has made marvellous progress this week, and I understand it is the view of all parties in this House that there is an appetite to rise early. I therefore seek leave for the House to rise, and I wish all members a safe and happy recess.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022be269b2b86b34af5ba4d791d62d1d99c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000490\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022be269b2b86b34af5ba4d791d62d1d99c\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is requested for that purpose. Is there any objection? There appears to be not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20180705538715fe8cde48d58e81fca762e62093000491\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 5.16 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"