"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00220b764868282644b889c53cd27141657d\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 6 SEPTEMBER 2018\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002244034a415e2f45aa9b7294e8fac4d084\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 6 SEPTEMBER 2018\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000002\u0022\u003EThe Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000004\u0022\u003EPrayers.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022953202108856485ab6a5e15fff2b2890\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a1469441cb7344a0980bd7bd0a121e3e\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022 data-id=\u002267179d3df88f4b71ba5b275634dae098\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002267179d3df88f4b71ba5b275634dae098\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Deputy Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. Next week, legislation to be considered by the House will include the America\u2019s Cup Road Stopping Bill, the Building Amendment Bill, the Conservation (Indigenous Freshwater Fish) Amendment Bill, the Education Amendment Bill, the Education (Teaching Council of Aotearoa New Zealand) Amendment Bill, the Family and Wh\u0101nau Violence Legislation Bill, and the State Sector and Crown Entities Reform Bill. There will be an extended sitting of the House on the morning of Wednesday, 12 September. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022cf3cc0a30400469c958a21f1b7997714\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cf3cc0a30400469c958a21f1b7997714\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (National\u2014Ilam):\u003C/span\u003E Does he consider it good parliamentary practice for the Government to be calling for an extended-hours sitting to consider education bills while the Education and Workforce Committee is scheduled to be sitting in Auckland?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022 data-id=\u00227ccbeb6a25eb46458e5a18d9c06df250\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227ccbeb6a25eb46458e5a18d9c06df250\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Deputy Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E The business of the committee is a matter for the committee to consider. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e310324ee5c4428cb0b5a23a2e217095\u0022\u003EHon Gerry Brownlee\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002267e8d159db7f4cf2ab6b5c9380110aa7\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: A point of order\u2014the Hon Gerry Brownlee. I know it\u2019s not question time, but I think it is reasonable that a better answer is given. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a0ecfd9f17ef4864a2b0954ea91ef8fb\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: The question was, \u201CIs it good practice?\u201D My understanding is that the bills being considered by that committee at that time are all bills that the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety, and Minister of Immigration, is responsible for. I suggest to the member that he ensure that he has education spokespeople here in the House and addresses the matters to do with workforce relations and immigration.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u00227cb020aeafd34c36b1a8e4b7e4bb6aff\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227cb020aeafd34c36b1a8e4b7e4bb6aff\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m going to indicate that I do not think it is good practice for that to occur.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00229313eeea381d46819bad9e53cd36738d\u0022\u003EOral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228835d868c5c2456ab2acca1ee14087fe\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002261def47dfc194543905f6e0f60b899c7\u0022\u003EKiwiBuild\u2014Progress\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022 data-id=\u0022e21a5de5bb344e57ba28cedbf3657039\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e21a5de5bb344e57ba28cedbf3657039\u0022\u003EPAUL EAGLE (Labour\u2014Rongotai)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: What progress has he made towards the Government\u2019s target of building 1,000 affordable KiwiBuild homes in 2018/19, 5,000 in 2019/20, and 10,000 in 2020/21?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u002266011e0dd43a48a498edddc81e21cbe7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002266011e0dd43a48a498edddc81e21cbe7\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Minister of Housing and Urban Development):\u003C/span\u003E Malo e laumalie. On Sunday, I announced that the first KiwiBuild homes have been completed. [Applause]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022692fb566bb214693b4a7fa39cf2a87b1\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member will resume his seat. Can I just make it clear to members on both sides that we\u2019re here to listen to answers and not to act like a performing seals circus.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a123191cb51f4b6a884b6efe1955e5fc\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: The 18 warm, modern, and architecturally designed stand-alone homes made up of 12 three-bedroom homes selling for $579,000 and six four-bedroom homes selling for $649,000 will go on sale next week. A generation of young Kiwis with good jobs are priced out of homeownership. They made good choices, but they still cannot afford the security of their own home. KiwiBuild is providing\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229ed9b0bf1e424ec8a3b47dcf20f41f82\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member has completed his answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002212d923d659384206abd47011c768d0af\u0022\u003EPaul Eagle\u003C/span\u003E: What other announcements did the Government make about the McLennan development?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229a37f998b9264138aae3fde8ab2f6560\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I also announced that a further 12 properties are under construction at the McLennan development and will be completed before Christmas, including seven terraced two-bedroom homes and five four-bedroom homes, and next year another 58 KiwiBuild homes will be built at McLennan, the majority of which will be three-bedroom homes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226eb5f12b82f342488757995870e1694d\u0022\u003EPaul Eagle\u003C/span\u003E: How will an interested family purchase a KiwiBuild home at McLennan?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002251758d035de9473eba3fa15193ec13f3\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, a ballot opens next week, and families will have four weeks to decide whether they want to enter into the ballot. Families can come and have a look, and when the show home opens on Saturday, this weekend, they can talk to the agents and get an idea of whether it would work for them and their family.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229f5e96bb8f41405688d4eca3a2ceabf7\u0022\u003EPaul Eagle\u003C/span\u003E: What other KiwiBuild developments are getting under way?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229506f78fd2a64dd2847a50b468a5d876\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: The buying off the plans initiative, which will provide the majority of houses in the first few years of KiwiBuild, is making great progress, and I\u2019ll be making more announcements on houses to be built under this scheme this year very soon. We\u2019re also preparing to ramp up building with large-scale developments, including Unitec, Northcote, and M\u0101ngere, and today the KiwiBuild unit has called for expressions of interest on the establishment of a large-scale offsite manufacturing industry in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00223309b6b03cd44ad8b4addecb386136c5\u0022\u003EPrime Minister\u2014Confidence in Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022 data-id=\u00223577991798b84470a9b9f3ab920727e9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223577991798b84470a9b9f3ab920727e9\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT (Deputy Leader\u2014National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Does she have confidence in all her Ministers?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022 data-id=\u002284d73fbb9ece4a1d83a21c6f9a678009\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002284d73fbb9ece4a1d83a21c6f9a678009\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Deputy Prime Minister) \u003C/span\u003Eon behalf of the Prime Minister: Undoubtedly, particularly in their efforts to save taxpayer money on unnecessary VIP travel and accommodation, in contrast to their predecessors.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220a0006f4e9a84d829f33bcc24a7dc0e5\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Is Clare Curran the benchmark standard that she expects her Ministers to perform to?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221b7edaaec7ab4a2e859bcea4b2c55116\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: The Prime Minister has made it very public that she did not think that a certain standard had been met, and that\u2019s why she took action. That\u2019s been known for some considerable time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c622464543d94825936fc6bbd6646e37\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: So does the quality of answers by Clare Curran in the House yesterday meet the standard that she expects from a Minister of communications?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d2e715573474e4e94eb4fbe07a6d325\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Again, the Prime Minister has to confess that she wasn\u2019t in the House yesterday. But we all have an off-day\u2014and no one would understand that better than the member asking the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c5f26c67041541269d8c4590dd123a2b\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT\u003C/span\u003E: Did she take the time on the flight back from Nauru with Winston Peters to write a list of what he wants so she can try and avoid future embarrassments, like the recent \u201Cnumber of refugees\u201D fiasco?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002294d049270a75450e9bdb1f2b9e1d6022\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: The Prime Minister, in a press conference in Nauru yesterday, was at pains to point out that the statement from various Ministers and herself and Winston Peters were all on the same page. For example, when a media airhead puts it to the Deputy Prime Minister that the refugee quota is 1,500, and he says, \u201CNo it\u2019s not; that has not gone through Cabinet yet.\u201D, then he might have been right. But no, no, that member and the Opposition keep on thinking that this is wedge politics. The reality is that we\u2019re a coalition that gets on with consultation and ensures that on the big economic and social issues of the day, we make progress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225c58d90bac134e2a814d067aacfdb9b4\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Why didn\u2019t she know before the media and the public did that Winston Peters didn\u2019t support her or her party\u2019s policy on refugees?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022466f54a63101411b86ed989a55fde2e9\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Because we have had, since a referendum in 1993, the beginnings, in 1996, of an MMP environment. Parties have their own manifestos, but the beauty of a coalition is that you agree on what parts of your collective manifesto\u2019s going to be progressed, and this is a work in progress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002223ed900e3c8c45de803aade80a55254b\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she have confidence in her Minister of Foreign Affairs, when he doesn\u2019t seem to respect her enough to give her a heads-up before he publicly challenges what was an important policy to her?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228ce580fa3fcf4699bd16b936e2a89b4d\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, I am far too clever to be misled by a stupid, false media question, which went like this: \u201CThe Government\u2019s refugee quota is 1,500.\u201D, to which I said, \u201CWell, no, it\u2019s not.\u201D That wasn\u2019t starting an argument; it was putting the facts out there. And the member should know, after all this time, the big difference: words matter.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229b05e96260794b18a57639547a131fa2\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she think it\u2019s helpful that her Minister of Foreign Affairs treats the media and the public like they\u2019re stupid?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022056aa60a29b6422b8ee3982005b417bf\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, I know full well the admiration that the Minister of Foreign Affairs has for the media\u2014particularly, some of them\u2014and he\u2019s made no conceit or deceit about that. He\u2019s always said that they could perform far better if their ownership gave them greater resources and greater time to do their job properly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022097e456729474a1b9f9cbdfa9705eaae\u0022\u003EHon Shane Jones\u003C/span\u003E: To the Prime Minister, on the matter of standards, what does it mean by \u201Ccomparable ministerial costs\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220af099b1ff2b4ed19cd9f7c85c184263\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Well, curiously\u2014and that\u2019s a very good question, actually, for which we are thoroughly prepared. In the second quarter of 2015, under the previous administration, costs were $2.33 million. In 2016, in the second quarter, under the previous administration, costs were $2.25 million. In the second quarter of 2017, $2.2 million, and in 2018, the quarter for which this Government is responsible, $1.49 million.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dc2fa64f911d4be08c2487bc6881ce8d\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she have confidence in her ability to manage her Government when she has Clare Curran twice misleading the House, allegations swirling in regard to Meka Whaitiri, and she can\u2019t even tell us what policy her Government will be implementing without first asking the permission of Winston Peters?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220e9bebc874c04f31af017a980f9b793b\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Can I just say that, on behalf of the Prime Minister, being the epitome of consultation and wise Government, I consult with all of my colleagues in Cabinet and outside, and amongst the three caucuses involved. That\u2019s what MMP looks like under reformed, visionary Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022257e2cc237e4464694282538b5f1ffe3\u0022\u003EEconomy\u2014Outlook\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022 data-id=\u002291ba572cdebe4a1988a01e1056469c7d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002291ba572cdebe4a1988a01e1056469c7d\u0022\u003EHon AMY ADAMS (National\u2014Selwyn)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: Can he confirm the results of the latest ANZ business outlook survey show employment and investment intentions are at their lowest levels since 2009; if so, what effect does he think this will have on the New Zealand economy?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022 data-id=\u00223f0503761c99494eba50d2344a22caaf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223f0503761c99494eba50d2344a22caaf\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E I can confirm I have seen reports about the survey that indicate that is what it says. The reports I am seeing about actual business activity give me confidence that there are more people being hired and more investment in productive assets taking place and that that will have a greater effect on the economy than any particular survey.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225b53b61a037c43cdbe8ab07a93729a93\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Well, is he aware that economists at the ANZ have stated that actually \u201Cinvestment intentions from the survey provide a very good \u2026 directional signal for GDP growth\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002275a5098865b149bba77741a24ec102a4\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: There are different views from different economists on the merits of the survey. What I am working on is the actual facts of what is happening in New Zealand. We saw, for example, in the terms of trade data, that capital goods import volumes were up 13 percent. That means people are importing machinery and equipment that they are investing in to improve productivity. That\u2019s what is actually happening in the economy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ed3c364ad29c4094a012b4f2e34aea52\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Well, is he aware that there has been a halving of new job growth, a halving of job ads, since he became the Minister of Finance, and also now a sharp drop in employment intentions of New Zealand businesses?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c324ccb76b204c35a0d5deecba1e22ea\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: On the matter of job ads, the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment\u2019s latest job ads data shows that over the past year online vacancies in fact increased by 7.1 percent\u20147.1 percent. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002204171a395b074da3b9ecfcb581adcbfc\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Will he acknowledge that Government policies such as a 27 percent increase in the minimum wage, stronger union powers, and new and increased taxes are all contributing to an environment that makes businesses less likely to invest or to hire new staff?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220cd438ac4213461b96a21d8e7251f6b4\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: I reject the premises in that question from the member. What we\u2019re doing with increasing the minimum wage is making sure that the lowest-paid people in New Zealand finally get a fair go after nine years of being neglected by that former Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002240aef531da7646aa9679076eca64b9a0\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Does he know enough about actually running a business to understand that the more than doubling of costs for businesses under this Government, compared to the last one, is part of the reason the businesses are now saying they are less likely to hire staff and less likely to invest?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c59d3c5e029476a8b56999dde5210ed\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: I reject virtually all of the premises in that question. What this Government is focused on is making sure that right across New Zealand, in the cities and the regions of New Zealand, there are opportunities for people to have good jobs that pay good wages, so they can look after their families. I would hope the member would support that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225b90cfd5ecbd44fb951726faf0b76e70\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: I seek leave to table a document compiled by my office that pulls together all of the producer cost index data from quarter four 2008 to quarter two 2018, that has been compiled and analysed by my office.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fcb615e0e40c40fd9f13435e1dba87fa\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: It\u2019s not been the practice of my recent predecessors to allow documents produced by members or their offices to be put for tabling and I\u2019m going to continue with that precedent.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a71d9e6b87124dbfaed6ba4f1cafcdd5\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Is the finance Minister aware that the first two quarters of 2017 were down, and that before the last election the ANZ economist was saying that forecast GDP growth would be 2.6 percent\u2014way below what it is now?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b0f5bac8504040d39b7556ebe488b10e\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: Indeed, the trends that we\u2019re seeing now did indeed begin at the beginning of 2017. I can reassure the member though, however, that the forecasters continue to tell us that over the next three years we will have, on average, 3 percent growth in advance of what we inherited and in advance of where we are now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022cbd96321cd3b468482b84fb0a57d0299\u0022\u003EAuckland District Health Board\u2014Infrastructure Investment\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002295945ace-51e8-4dbc-a0e3-c19f4ed99ed9\u0022 data-id=\u00221e2959c5e90741bda393ae42d892d33a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002295945ace-51e8-4dbc-a0e3-c19f4ed99ed9\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221e2959c5e90741bda393ae42d892d33a\u0022\u003EANAHILA KANONGATA\u2019A-SUISUIKI (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Health: What recent announcements has he made about investing in Auckland District Health Board\u2019s hospital infrastructure?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022 data-id=\u002234f926b85643467bb58ff224950e3832\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002234f926b85643467bb58ff224950e3832\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK (Minister of Health):\u003C/span\u003E On Thursday, 23 August, I accompanied the Prime Minister on a visit to Auckland City Hospital, where we announced a $305 million investment in the district health board\u2019s (DHB\u2019s) essential infrastructure. The funding will be used to repair, replace, and upgrade everything from lifts, water systems, ICT cabling, to new fire protection systems and new electrical substations. The project will also improve energy efficiency and help reduce operating costs.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002295945ace-51e8-4dbc-a0e3-c19f4ed99ed9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222b4ed57bb6fb4e3c951f3e142e5be201\u0022\u003EAnahila Kanongata\u2019a-Suisuiki\u003C/span\u003E: What difference will patients at Auckland City Hospital, Starship, and Greenlane see as a result of this work?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225024533238a047f2804b0713ba3bf4eb\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: In the short term, patients, wh\u0101nau, and staff will not see a lot of difference, and everything will be done to minimise disruption to ongoing work. Ultimately, they will experience fewer operational failures, greater efficiency and responsiveness, and improved safety and resilience. This work will also provide a solid foundation for the DHB to plan for the future healthcare needs of its communities, and it\u2019s necessary as a precursor for any future development of the Auckland City Hospital and Greenlane Clinical Centre sites.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002295945ace-51e8-4dbc-a0e3-c19f4ed99ed9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c6e0cdcdfa024570b205ae5d0009378c\u0022\u003EAnahila Kanongata\u2019a-Suisuiki\u003C/span\u003E: Why was such a large investment needed?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002245e65d62d30b490b902491d3af13abce\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: We have great staff in our public hospitals. We deliver great care that people expect and indeed deserve in facilities they can rely on. Unfortunately, a lot of the infrastructure at Auckland City Hospital and Greenlane is approaching the end of its life or is at capacity. We\u2019re addressing a legacy of deferred maintenance and an ageing infrastructure after nine long years of under-investment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224281b6c8dbfd46c09e83a7ac76a36480\u0022\u003EHousing New Zealand\u2014Vacant State Houses\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022 data-id=\u0022a26af374009c4beeb81618ed421f5087\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a26af374009c4beeb81618ed421f5087\u0022\u003EHon JUDITH COLLINS (National\u2014Papakura)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: How many houses owned or managed by Housing New Zealand were vacant on 31 August 2018?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u00225013a9bbe9044dbaa5aec3d896dadaeb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225013a9bbe9044dbaa5aec3d896dadaeb\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Minister of Housing and Urban Development):\u003C/span\u003E There were 722 long-term vacant State houses in August. Of these, 285 are undergoing major repairs or upgrades, and 215 homes are being redeveloped as part of the Government\u2019s build programme. Additionally, there are 382 State houses vacant because they are in between tenancies or being repaired. There are a further 169 where their leases have expired or they are about to be demolished for redevelopment or are beyond repair. We\u2019re committed to keeping the number of vacant homes as low as possible while we build a net additional 6,400 public houses. The vacancy rate was as high as 3,540 or one in 20 homes under the previous Government. It\u2019s now down to one in 50.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022992a10a751fc44f791d54b41abe5fd1b\u0022\u003EHon Judith Collins\u003C/span\u003E: How many families are on the Housing New Zealand waiting list for those houses?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dc5e536439ed416aa291747820ab7682\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: There are approximately 8,500 people currently on the waiting list, but the turnaround time to get families into State houses has been steadily decreasing. At the end of June 2016, the average turnaround time was 38 days, at the end of June 2017, it was 34 days, and at the end of June 2018, it was down to 19 days.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fb5ba48bbc62454b870a33b001515ee1\u0022\u003EHon Judith Collins\u003C/span\u003E: How many of those families on the waiting list of around 8,500 families for a vacant Housing New Zealand house are living in temporary housing such as motels?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e44fb43033cf46948ff3d9e8b7b56553\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: If the member wants to put that question down in writing, I\u2019d be happy to answer it. I don\u2019t have the numbers in front of me.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022247a7f8e6a234c9eb57b2a4ec2e42ee9\u0022\u003EHon Judith Collins\u003C/span\u003E: Why are there around 1,400 empty State houses when there is a waiting list of, he says, 8,500 Kiwi families for those houses?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227b9546f34b234bf49db270cf231c9ffc\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, after inheriting a housing crisis after nine years of neglect and the sell-off of 5,000 State houses, we\u2019ve got a lot of ground to make up. But I\u2019ll say this: our Government will not sit around and leave as many as 400 State houses boarded up and lying vacant due to bogus methamphetamine standards.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022062eae6712fc4515acdf6e002a26121a\u0022\u003EHon Judith Collins\u003C/span\u003E: Why, since he has been the Minister for around a year, are there people still having to sleep in cars when there are 1,400 empty State houses?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022105ecf64d89d4a4caa831779311e59d6\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, we are investing $4 billion in building 6,400 extra State houses. We stopped the mass sell-off of State houses. We\u2019ve actually funded and built nearly 2,400 emergency housing places around this country, and rolled out Housing First to half a dozen new centres. It took nine years of neglect to allow the housing crisis to spin out of control; after nine months, I think we\u2019ve done pretty well. [Applause]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cf7719e7f20244f9b5d25b37dc554356\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Can I just remind people in the gallery that you\u2019ve got to stay out of it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022863108e4d7cd4d939377ff73262dc3f8\u0022\u003EHon Judith Collins\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I don\u2019t believe that the Minister addressed the question, which is: why, when he\u2019s been the Minister for almost a year, there are still 1,400 empty State houses and people having to sleep in cars rather than those State houses? We got a long diatribe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022db1267c0823545daafbd8b9a7c5b706c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I think that the answer certainly addressed and probably came close to answering the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ad3f2a8673004fc9b340f72a55d41ac0\u0022\u003EHon Judith Collins\u003C/span\u003E: Why are there 1,400 empty State houses when he says that there were empty State houses under National and he has stated previously they should not have been empty, and why is it OK for them to be empty now?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f1ee38f4740d4bc9aa12dc2b8ee910ff\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, not only do we have a lot to catch up on after nine years of neglect, but we have reduced the number of vacant State houses from one in 20 under that Government to one in 50 in nine months.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022590f36f855224e47a410096efdd544b9\u0022\u003EUnemployment Rate\u2014Statistics\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022 data-id=\u0022299f6866a46c4bc28ae96fe7c35b9a2b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022299f6866a46c4bc28ae96fe7c35b9a2b\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT (Deputy Leader\u2014National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Employment: Does he stand by all of his statements and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u0022fe8ebfa8c0384aa48889f39ab104837d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fe8ebfa8c0384aa48889f39ab104837d\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister of Employment):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, in the context, of course, in which they were made.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022119668f5ce3b43c99498298044ada197\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Was the unemployment rate, as it stood when he was sworn in on 26 October 2017, 4.6 percent?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002299267430b4db4cd3bcdb87f6fbeaea43\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: As I said on Tuesday, when I was sworn in as Minister of Employment the official annual rate of unemployment was 5 percent. That changed in June of this year to 4.5 percent. For the assistance of the member who\u2019s asking the question, 26 October is correct\u2014when I was sworn in. On 1 November, a new household labour force survey was released, at which point the quarterly figure became 4.6 percent. Now, if the member is trying to assert that when I was sworn in the rate of unemployment was 4.6 percent, based on quarterly figures, she\u2019s also incorrect: it was 4.8 percent on 26 October.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220bbd54e7009b442d99c63a3691b9a32c\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, sir. I seek leave to table a document prepared by the Parliamentary Library outlining the unemployment rates for October 2017.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022be846cc8716b4ffdb285bc7243b1387f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Is there any objection to that document being tabled? There is.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227e31df4bbfcd4c96bd670a45fe7afcd4\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Was the unemployment rate in October last year 4.9 percent, as he said on Newshub Nation; 5 percent, as he said yesterday; 4.6 percent, according to Statistics New Zealand; or 4.8 percent, as he just told the House?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a4204450d9a94cbfbacc5b33961bf611\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: As I said on Tuesday, the annual unemployment rate was 5 percent. However, the quarterly rate at that particular time, when the member was asking, was 4.8 percent. So the member is wrong on both counts.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ce16f45e28a34dfea9357d528da29a0c\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: So from here on, will he be using annualised employment figures, as he did on Newshub Nation, or quarterly employment figures, as he does in his press releases; or doesn\u2019t it matter, because, as the members says, \u201Cthere\u2019s statistics, and then there\u2019s statistics.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220a21c5178a8648e5a67ef99bfa2d2a54\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: I think the member is accusing me of cherry-picking, in terms of statistics. We can talk about statistics until we\u2019re blue in the face. Make no mistake, though: my focus is on the people. I\u2019ve been clear on this since accepting the employment portfolio, which is why I\u2019ve been out across the country, rolling out programmes, concentrating on the people and communities at the very core. We can go on about \u201C4.6 percent\u201D, \u201C4.5 percent\u201D, and the 0.1 percent difference, but the 0.1 percent difference equates to 4,000 more people who are now in paid employment. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fdcdf9a09985435db796ff97e7f5acab\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Actually, with my question, it was whether he is going to use annualised or quarterly, because it will determine other questions I can ask, sir, and I\u2019d really like him to address it. It\u2019s quite a serious question: is he going to be using annualised or is he going to be using quarterly?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022196d221270d847d4b3bf4871216ec74b\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The member\u2019s been here for quite a long time, and she knows that she can\u2019t get, effectively, a yes/no or a binary answer to a question. That\u2019s a longstanding Speakers\u2019 ruling. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cf514b78f38e4ceb97d736c89c34d1a6\u0022\u003EJo Luxton\u003C/span\u003E: What other statement does the Minister of Employment also stand by?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225811840ce26c4bce8f610e5450649dbf\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: What an excellent question. I stated on Newshub Nation on Saturday, 1 September that my desire as the Minister of Employment was to continue to have high aspirations for M\u0101ori and Pasifika communities and our disabled community. Our goal should absolutely be to reduce the constant deficit between the unemployment rate of the general population to that experienced particularly by M\u0101ori and Pasifika. I listed programmes like He Poutama Rangatahi \u2013 Youth Employment Pathways that are successfully targeting the regions where the need exists, and, already, positive change is happening\u20142,300 people being transitioned into employment or training. I clearly have higher aspirations for our people than some of the members opposite, who have the audacity\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222d9d7d245af74dfd9606ba447833f4fc\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Right, thank you. The member probably finished answering the question about a minute ago.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b2d9bf8f478a4197aa25f4cd985a1dd0\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: What is the employment rate for students that leave charter schools?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b5f98d854db04f7da51b14d6f4248d52\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Put that question to my office and I\u2019ll come back to you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a6a44584bda24181b73fa45e143a5a00\u0022\u003EPrimary Sector Development\u2014Sustainable Food and Fibre Futures and Extension Service Model\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022 data-id=\u00224ed1169c144e42d8aad9877186a91e3c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224ed1169c144e42d8aad9877186a91e3c\u0022\u003EKIERAN McANULTY (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Agriculture: How is this Government helping our vital primary sectors get more value for the products they produce?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022 data-id=\u0022414805c1c49b40a0bc08c7f3c3754fd4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022414805c1c49b40a0bc08c7f3c3754fd4\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR (Minister of Agriculture):\u003C/span\u003E I recently launched the Sustainable Food and Fibre Futures (SFFF) programme. The SFFF fund will make $40 million a year available for funding requests to help our vital food and fibre industries. The primary sector is the backbone of the New Zealand economy, delivering more than $42 billion in export revenue last year, and we are committed as a Government to getting more sustainable value for the great products our farmers and our growers produce.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002253ca73359c4b426eb0520b3d9fcf2e69\u0022\u003EKieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: What are the key goals of the Sustainable Food and Fibre Futures fund?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022de97ebbfbaf444daaccd510f148a6e4a\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR\u003C/span\u003E: The new SFFF fund will provide greater strategic focus for research, and move away from just focusing on volume to achieving higher sustainable value for our primary exporters. The SFFF fund provides a single gateway for farmers and growers to apply for investment in a greater range of products that deliver economic, environmental, and social benefits that flow through to all Kiwis.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226252e739455343ac95b3042e381b41d6\u0022\u003EKieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: What programmes alongside the SFFF will help farmers get the most from their hard work?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224f11adca3c13474bbf75cb97b7f2995a\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR\u003C/span\u003E: I recently also launched the Extension Service Model, which will be rolled out over four years by the Ministry for Primary Industries, with $3 million of funding. We\u2019re not starting from zero. There are a range of good extension programmes under way, but there is opportunity for us to play a stronger role in partnering with industry to support better coordination and targeting of services that focus on sustainable and profitable farming. The extension service programme sits alongside our investment in tools like OVERSEER that will help farmers make good on-farm decisions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022924b15f86a624b09810133f88b2eabdd\u0022\u003EHon Nathan Guy\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with his $100,000 review that has confirmed National\u2019s Primary Growth Partnership (PGP) is delivering new jobs, increased exports, higher-value products, and higher on-farm incomes?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f9ba1bfb273d42b0a2848f79991cf733\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR\u003C/span\u003E: One would hope that the expenditure of $350 million of taxpayer funding would deliver some benefits for the country. However, the review found three things. Firstly, the report noted that since 2009, the PGP fund was underspent by $150 million, as the last Government raided it for other things. Secondly, the independent report said that PGP did not have a clear and agreed long-term strategy. And, thirdly, the report noted that PGP needed to focus on becoming more transformational.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b39600dd2c9544c8bb33f363c3ddefa1\u0022\u003ERefugees\u2014Quota\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022 data-id=\u002255a9e090bef94714b016bffdff22b77f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002255a9e090bef94714b016bffdff22b77f\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Immigration: When he said of the refugee quota, \u201CWe are very firm in our commitment to increase that quota and our commitment before the election was to do that during the first term in Government, and that is still my plan\u201D, was he speaking in his ministerial capacity or as an individual with \u201Ca personal commitment to increasing the refugee quota,\u201D as described by the Prime Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022 data-id=\u002270c4a6476fe94d02b85761e8d03469f7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002270c4a6476fe94d02b85761e8d03469f7\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Minister of Immigration):\u003C/span\u003E Both.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e8fa38ac6b754ee88ef880de12efe9af\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: OK. In that case, when he advised officials on 15 November 2017 that he \u201Cwould like a plan for increasing the annual refugee quota to 1,500 places to be developed by the middle of 2018\u201D, was he speaking as Minister of Immigration or as an individual with \u201Ca personal commitment to increasing the refugee quota,\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002227d1af336ab14a4dbf859a554befd65b\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: As Minister of Immigration, I am continuing to advocate for an increase in the quota to 1,500, and I am preparing myself so that I can seek the agreement of my Cabinet colleagues through the usual Cabinet processes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227ab3883f4fa3401ea13fe685e534bcd7\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: When, following a 29 March briefing to him entitled \u201COptions for staging the increase in the refugee quota\u201D, he directed officials to draft a paper to be taken to Cabinet in June \u201Cseeking agreement to permanently increase the annual refugee quota to 1,500 places\u201D, did he do so as Minister of Immigration or as an individual with \u201Ca personal commitment to increasing the refugee quota,\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002207a4caf741aa4b6799edb287717d3770\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: I did so as Minister of Immigration. And as a sensible Minister of Immigration, I have looked at some of the capacity issues that we inherited from the previous Government\u2014not least the appalling housing crisis that the country is facing\u2014and I know that before we increase the quota, the sensible thing to do is to address those capacity issues.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222bcde8ece27c46d2b084ff1bd068cd64\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: When he received a document titled \u201CIncreasing the refugee quota: options for staging the increase to 1,500 places annually by June 2020\u201D, did he do so as Minister of Immigration or as an individual with \u201Ca personal commitment to increasing the refugee quota,\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227f03964c92714037a89f6b7da06921c4\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: I did it as a Minister with a personal commitment to increasing the refugee quota.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d1df1c799e874ef0ab506c3af4300b9b\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with Newshub that the Prime Minister has thrown him under a bus on this issue by backing down on the Government\u2019s plan to increase the number of refugees after the policy already received funding in the latest Budget?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bcf7fdcae98745108017ce2ddc9b76fc\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: In relation to the last part of that question, the funding that the member refers to was funding for the expansion of the M\u0101ngere Refugee Resettlement Centre, which, as I said yesterday, is necessary regardless of whether there is an increase to the quota or not. In regards to any bus, I haven\u2019t seen a bus, and I think an articulation of normal Government processes, which I would\u2019ve thought that member would be aware of, doesn\u2019t constitute any form of bus.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b057f0845f894b42af32e2a1c31b8af5\u0022\u003EHon James Shaw\u003C/span\u003E: Given the renewed level of concern about the plight of refugees on Nauru and around the world, would the Minister be prepared to test whether there is now a parliamentary majority in favour of increasing the refugee quota to 1,500?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002229650220078c401b93b56d0291edd802\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: Were there an opportunity to do so I\u2019d certainly be interested to see how the Opposition would vote on that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227935078a82744bcc9548618900537492\u0022\u003EPolice\u2014Deputy Commissioner of Police, Allegations Against\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u0022280ebf85ab3047faa86bd617bc74fba9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022280ebf85ab3047faa86bd617bc74fba9\u0022\u003ECHRIS BISHOP (National\u2014Hutt South)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Police: Has a formal complaint of alleged bullying been made against Deputy Police Commissioner Wally Haumaha, and has an employment investigation commenced?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u0022560aaf66ef574e9aab4f0ab739fd7dd2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022560aaf66ef574e9aab4f0ab739fd7dd2\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Justice)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister of Police: The police advise that they have received two formal complaints in relation to bullying allegations against Deputy Police Commissioner Wally Haumaha. These have been notified to the Independent Police Conduct Authority in accordance with the usual process for these complaints. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a63f6731b49c4597b909e539722a4c5e\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: What does the Minister\u2019s diary indicate he is doing between 2 and 3 o\u2019clock on Thursday, 6 September?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222adb977725b544ddb1ddd804fa8d59b0\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, I cannot answer that question because I do not have that detail in front of me.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00220dbc9f6ad50548a69c6908266bb30fdc\u0022\u003EHealth, Ministry\u2014Audit New Zealand Report into Deloitte Engagement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022 data-id=\u0022da4e13be51424789bb60229278b8e3e9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022da4e13be51424789bb60229278b8e3e9\u0022\u003EDr SHANE RETI (National\u2014Whangarei)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Health: Does he stand by all his statements and actions around the National Oracle Solution and the Audit New Zealand report on Deloitte\u2019s appointment as reviewers?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022 data-id=\u0022b9692445d5d74c0586c529529309ae1e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b9692445d5d74c0586c529529309ae1e\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK (Minister of Health):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, in the context they were made and taken. In particular, I stand by my statement that it was the ministry that commissioned the Deloitte report\u2014using the same all-of-Government processes used by the previous Government\u2014and not me that commissioned the report, as Dr Reti continues to incorrectly assert in the media. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022620c759357414e2d9f7e3a52d899f2ab\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: Will he then take any responsibility for the Audit New Zealand report showing that Deloitte\u2019s conflict of interest was not fully considered, was poorly managed, and that there was significant failure in the engagement process?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002296ab53a6d10e420e9eed6ea90954cdc8\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: The Ministry of Health invited Audit New Zealand to review their processes, and they have received a number of recommendations, and I\u2019m pleased to see that they are implementing them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c3a7d6cc48e7457997b0f54d6e0db19f\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: Is he aware of evidence that the ministry did not pursue Deloitte\u2019s conflict of interest after Deloitte warned them that they did not want their conflicts made public?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002289fd7164554e4f3f9f3cb2957c243ddc\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: I have seen evidence in the Audit New Zealand report that the conflicts of interests\u2014perceived, real, or otherwise\u2014were declared in accordance with the all-of-Government processes set in place by the previous Government, and, also, commentary from Audit New Zealand that they could have been more thoroughly examined consequently, and that they recommend putting processes in place that make the contracting process in future better than the one that was operating under the previous Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fdfd8c50cbd040f4a28e385ab5c08f62\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: How does he respond to allegations that he and his team tried to bury the report, when the Auditor General\u2019s office this Monday said that if Clark didn\u2019t release the report by noon that day, they would release it, which they proceeded to do at 1.28 p.m.?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e611ee6960f747ae8860fddad6fac984\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: Far from burying any reports on the previous National Government\u2019s failures in respect of the National Oracle Solution, I, in fact, issued a press statement welcoming the release.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022024789f1eeed498cb9112de94d9feb39\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: How will he explain to taxpayers the spending of $150,000 on a report which, through his incompetence, is no longer credible?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f4f2bc75989b4d25ba6e91eedfa3b5f4\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! No.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002263aba25feb7147fc94451a7de2d884cc\u0022\u003EHon Grant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: Supplementary question?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022692d37edc65a4e47b2f9e0e1b067458a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, well, I\u2019m just going to indicate to the member that there\u2019s a degree of judgment in that question\u2014a degree of assertion which goes beyond what\u2019s allowed in a question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ca9e86b57ccf4ca18cd294c0ccab7748\u0022\u003EHon Grant Robertson\u003C/span\u003E: What does the Minister consider worse: issues relating to an Audit New Zealand report on a review of a programme, or the programme itself blowing out to a $90 million cost for which New Zealanders get virtually no benefit?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dbac139d36dd4216aedbe97d249f04d1\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: That is actually the relevant question here. I think it is shameful that people are prosecuting a small report which found grievous failures between 2012 and 2017, when $90 million of taxpayer money was wasted, with very little to show for it. That side of the House needs to look themselves in the mirror on this one.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b2f2dfdf652f43258c047d81e270f405\u0022\u003ECrown/M\u0101ori Relations\u2014Scope of Portfolio\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u00223ad23135bf504d578fa14ca029204067\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223ad23135bf504d578fa14ca029204067\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Crown/M\u0101ori Relations: Does he stand by all his statements and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022f85bda5d5abb4c6388802b53e687dca8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f85bda5d5abb4c6388802b53e687dca8\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for Crown/M\u0101ori Relations):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, in the context they were made and taken.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227168553a84304f6995e7890578453da2\u0022\u003EHon Christopher Finlayson\u003C/span\u003E: What specific steps has he taken to ensure that State-owned enterprises, Crown research institutes, and Crown entities are aware of their obligation to foster a positive Crown-M\u0101ori relationship, given that he said to Cabinet in his paper entitled Initial Scope of Crown/M\u0101ori Relations portfolio that the quality of Crown-M\u0101ori engagement \u201Cvaries across public sector agencies\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b0d3dfc8b18e4e2b8092bdf6776856f2\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Crown/M\u0101ori relations is a new way of thinking, working, and behaving as a Government. We are encouraging everyone to work with M\u0101ori in partnership rather than doing what the previous Government did and seeing M\u0101ori as a handbrake when they are, in fact, the accelerator.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220e1f8acfd3d84513974123fedd51e1fc\u0022\u003EHon Christopher Finlayson\u003C/span\u003E: What specific steps has he taken to progress the development of the central register of commitments, given that he said in this Cabinet paper entitled Initial Scope of Crown/M\u0101ori Relations portfolio that one of his responsibilities is to \u201Censure Treaty \u2026 commitments are met to maintain trust and confidence;\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b402773cd43644eea56ba9205a101515\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: There are some 7,000 Treaty settlement commitments. Funding for this was secured in Budget 2018. Work is under way for a settlement portal to go live in June 2019.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a0e4960dde03428a8a24d540f869aed6\u0022\u003EHon Christopher Finlayson\u003C/span\u003E: Has he finished work and reported to Cabinet on the scope of his portfolio, given that he said in his Cabinet paper entitled Initial Scope of Crown/M\u0101ori Relations portfolio that he would return to Cabinet in July 2018 to seek agreement on the final scope of the portfolio?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002249045d3c03e14ca882f38692f81d9df7\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: When I became the Minister, I didn\u2019t want to repeat the mistakes of the past, when Governments decided that they knew what was best for M\u0101ori. They sat here in Wellington, and they wrote up a strategy and then went out to iwi and hap\u016B and wh\u0101nau and told them what the Government has decided will be in their best interests. That approach has never worked. Instead, I wanted to take my time to go around the country and ask M\u0101ori what they thought we needed to do to strengthen the relationship and what they wanted my priorities as a Minister to be, and that is what I did. The process has shaped the proposals that will be considered by Cabinet very shortly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222fbbe559bb424572be3b07061fa550b7\u0022\u003EHon Christopher Finlayson\u003C/span\u003E: Didn\u2019t he say in his Cabinet paper entitled Initial Scope of Crown/M\u0101ori Relations portfolio that hui were to be one part of his work in 2018, and, if so, apart from hui what else has he been doing in the 10 months since he\u2019s held the portfolio?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002279a819604496463fbc98f30718825e34\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: I answered this yesterday. There have been a number of things that were done. First and foremost is we\u2019ve been fixing up the stuff-ups of the previous Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002256981f0de3e64c60b51d6e31cd26ec15\u0022\u003EHon Christopher Finlayson\u003C/span\u003E: What exactly did he mean when he said in his Cabinet paper entitled Initial Scope of Crown/M\u0101ori Relations portfolio that one of his priorities was to take the lead on resetting Crown-M\u0101ori relationships on hard issues?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f765e4e0677e41e1980cc202436a78c3\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: There are a number of hard issues that the previous Government failed to make any progress on. K\u014Dhanga reo is one. The freshwater issues is another one. So they\u2019re just a couple of examples of the issues that we need to reset the relationship with, and we to progress them because the previous Government failed to do that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221e860eaaac074fccb9e15c289fe15360\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Minister saying that he doesn\u2019t want to have a reproduction of the glacial speed made by the previous Government on, for example, the Ng\u0101puhi settlement?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227c507410d152463594dab266c3bd04d1\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! No. That is a responsibility of another Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223a4d9079138646dfa0ef80856196d990\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I am not saying that the Ng\u0101puhi settlement is not the province of another Minister. I am talking about the rate of progress of this Minister on issues associated with M\u0101ori, that being one of them\u2014that\u2019s the distinction.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002231bfb14b977045f087651775871de4af\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I can understand the distinction, but the Minister has responsibility neither for the settlement now nor for\u2014and I\u2019m not going to repeat the phrase the member used\u2014actions of the previous Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00229fe58ce71e7c46e28958f6c5267aa9c9\u0022\u003EBroadcasting, Communications and Digital Media, Minister\u2014Email Accounts\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022 data-id=\u0022bcf3301cdac84e9499511cfb35a8a0bd\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bcf3301cdac84e9499511cfb35a8a0bd\u0022\u003EMELISSA LEE (National):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave to have this question held over till the next question time when the Hon Clare Curran is available to answer questions\u2014as an extra question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u00228f7baac735e54cea992252edc7e7835b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228f7baac735e54cea992252edc7e7835b\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Is there any objection to that? Yes, there is. Does the member want to proceed? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022 data-id=\u0022ef803ea9ad724c2abd209ce0b0d4dd1d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ef803ea9ad724c2abd209ce0b0d4dd1d\u0022\u003EMELISSA LEE (National):\u003C/span\u003E I shall try.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u0022525c4790a7354eb2bd936b590aa403ba\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022525c4790a7354eb2bd936b590aa403ba\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Question No. 12, Melissa Lee. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022 data-id=\u0022e46146349e5f4062b1cfa88de80adfd9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e46146349e5f4062b1cfa88de80adfd9\u0022\u003EMELISSA LEE (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media: Does she stand by all her answers to oral and written questions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022 data-id=\u0022ff34f0ee09d04642a25eff3f2850e4fb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ff34f0ee09d04642a25eff3f2850e4fb\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Energy and Resources)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister of Broadcasting, Communications and Digital Media: Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226554e57f7b1240068a91e2ac2e9ef3f4\u0022\u003EMelissa Lee\u003C/span\u003E: What Government business has she conducted via Gmail apart from arranging a meeting with Derek Handley when she was Government digital services Minister? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c644d64751744ff68bdf56c9f3b9cdfa\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: I don\u2019t have that information to hand. If the member would like to put that question in writing, it will be answered. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002251a4a9b8b2fc401fb7a9262066ff611f\u0022\u003EMelissa Lee\u003C/span\u003E: What is the Minister scheduled to be doing between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m. on Thursday, 6 September 2018? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002289de675abfbf42b2a9eed60e3d1ea7ce\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: I don\u2019t have that information to hand. If the member would like to put that question in writing, it will be answered. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ac6ed9ef0d474d6ba3e1f85685c1bd9d\u0022\u003EIwi and Hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00224cfa289821c048c3bdcbeb1be5685db6\u0022\u003EIn Committee\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u002254d8ec7dd88b4ea3bb6512251e70b86d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002254d8ec7dd88b4ea3bb6512251e70b86d\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave for all provisions to be taken as one question. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022d0f2e5cf5caa46389abd6f476ed1ebd7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d0f2e5cf5caa46389abd6f476ed1ebd7\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There appears to be not. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00229e274a227e8b459798524340ca395ba9\u0022\u003EParts 1 to 3, schedules 1 to 6, and clauses 1 and 2\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u00225f42263cc98c4856ba061771f4f2eaaf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225f42263cc98c4856ba061771f4f2eaaf\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E Mr Chairman, thank you. For the benefit of those in the gallery and those watching on the live stream, can I just explain what is happening right now. For those of you who are used to sitting on committees, this is a bit like the part of the meeting where we are amending the minutes of the previous meeting. Since the House last considered the bill that includes the Treaty settlement for Iwi and Hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa, we\u2019ve discovered some clerical errors, so we\u2019re now in the process of fixing up the clerical errors. This is a technical exercise. It will take a matter of minutes\u2014or, if we\u2019re lucky, not even one minute\u2014and then we\u2019ll move into the third reading of the bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EAs I said in my second reading speech, the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee reported the bill back to the House on 19 December last year, and recommended it be passed without amendment. We have, however, found a requirement for some technical amendments. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) that is before the committee will make changes to one clause and one schedule. The amendments are to correct two minor drafting errors to ensure clarity. The first amendment involves clause 88(2) of the bill and it removes confusion around a defined term\u2014actually, the term is defined twice and it only needs to be defined once. The second amendment is to clause 2 of schedule 6, and it updates a reference to reflect the correct Act. I commend this bill to the committee with the two changes proposed in my SOP 92. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 92 in the name of the Hon Andrew Little be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EAmendments agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EParts 1 to 3, schedules 1 to 6, and clauses 1 and 2 as amended agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EHouse resumed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EBill reported with amendment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EReport adopted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022363953b088ea4a34bf59e9be85d20663\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u0022c2bfc0e5dd70450fb63f44a9f927c32d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c2bfc0e5dd70450fb63f44a9f927c32d\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Iwi and Hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EE Te Kaiwhakarite o Te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, e ng\u0101 hoa mema, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou T\u0101kitimu waka, ng\u0101 uri o Rongomaiwahine me Tamatakutai, me Rongomaiwahine ki a Kahungunu, ng\u0101 iwi me ng\u0101 hap\u016B katoa o te rohe o Te Wairoa; e karanga ana tonu te huia i \u014D koutou ng\u0101kau maha, rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113nei taku mihi atu ki a koutou. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E[Greetings to you, Mr Speaker, and to you my parliamentary colleagues. I salute T\u0101kitimu waka, the progeny of Rongomaiwahine and Tamatakutai, of Rongomaiwahine and Kahungunu, all the tribes and subtribes of the Wairoa district; the huia still calls to you all, distinguished leaders, I pay my respects to you. Greetings, greetings; thrice greetings to one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EI extend a warm welcome to the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa who have travelled here by plane and bus and possibly other means from the Wairoa region, Heretaunga, and \u014Cp\u014Dtiki. I particularly want to acknowledge the patience and fortitude that they have shown over the many years that they have waited for their settlement. The enactment of this bill will mark the end of a long-running Treaty settlement process between the Crown and the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa that started in the early 1980s. It\u2019s a privilege to stand before you today and commend this bill to my parliamentary colleagues. This is a very significant day for the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa, and it\u2019s also a very significant day for the Crown. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the driving forces behind the settlement, starting with those who led the way many years ago, but who are no longer with us. I pay tribute to Te Ariki May and Valetta Wairau, who, sadly, passed away and did not see their work come to fruition. To those of you who have worked so hard to make today possible, I offer my most sincere thanks. I would like to acknowledge the hard work of John Whaanga, Te Tira Whakaemi o Te Wairoa lead negotiator, and T\u0101mati Olsen, Te Tira chair, in reaching agreement on settlement redress. I acknowledge the input of T\u0101tau T\u0101tau o Te Wairoa Trust on the bill and thank the T\u0101tau T\u0101tau chair, Leon Symes, and deputy chair, Pieri Munro, in particular for their leadership and support. I also acknowledge the chief Crown negotiators who have been involved in the settlement, Pat Snedden and John Harbord. Finally I thank local authorities and Government officials for their valuable input into these negotiations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s important that we therefore acknowledge the troubled history that makes this settlement necessary. I would like to outline key aspects of the past relationship between the Crown and the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa to be recorded. The history of the Crown\u2019s interactions with the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa is marked by land alienation, warfare, and socio-economic deprivation. From the very beginning the relationship was flawed. The Crown did not take Te Tiriti o Waitangi to the Wairoa region, so the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa did not have any opportunity to consider whether to sign it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EWhen it purchased large quantities of land in the 1860s, the Crown failed to adequately survey some of the blocks, failed to fully investigate who had the customary rights to the land, and failed to set aside adequate reserves. The outbreak of war between the Crown and the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa began on Christmas Day in 1865, when the Crown attacked the Omaruhakeke k\u0101inga. Some members of the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa were captured and executed without trial. Others were imprisoned without trial for over two years on the Chatham Islands. The war created divisions among the iwi and hap\u016B who fought on different sides. As well as creating inter-iwi and hap\u016B division, the war resulted in a loss of property for the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa. Under duress, the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa agreed to cede more than 42,000 acres of land to the Crown. This sad history continued into the 20th century when the Crown, without consultation with the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa, purchased large areas of land in the rohe for the Urewera Consolidation Scheme and to establish Te Urewera National Park. Additionally, more than 500 acres of customary land have been compulsorily purchased by the Crown for public works from as early as the 1870s. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EMany of the policies of the Crown have significantly contributed to the migration of members of the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa away from their rohe. Those still remaining have suffered socio-economic deprivation, lacking the same opportunities to thrive that many other New Zealanders have enjoyed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EFollowing the initial lodgment of Treaty of Waitangi claims in the 1980s, in 2002 members of the hap\u016B and iwi of the Wairoa district came together at Rangi\u0101hua Marae to work together in resolving Treaty claims in the district. This was the genesis of what would later become the large natural group known as the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa and their mandated negotiators Te Tira Whakaemi o Te Wairoa, commonly referred to as Te Tira. For the three years that followed, the group discussed fully which pathway to take to resolve their claims before, finally, in 2005, deciding on direct negotiations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe Crown recognised Te Tira\u2019s mandate to negotiate in 2009. In 2012, terms of negotiation were agreed and negotiations began in 2013. An agreement in principle was signed in 2014 and a deed of settlement was initialled in May 2016 and signed on 26 November 2016 at T\u0101kitimu Marae. The T\u0101kitimu Marae has significance as the place where in 2014 the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa met to air their grievances with the Crown. Through this settlement and apology, the Crown seeks to restore its honour and to atone for its wrongs to the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa by easing the burden of grievance that has been carried for generations. This settlement and apology is key to developing a new relationship based on mutual trust in, and respect for, Te Tiriti o Waitangi and its principles.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EWhile the settlement is substantial, I acknowledge that no redress can ever fully compensate the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa for what has been lost and for what they have suffered. However, the settlement given effect by this bill will provide the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa with a powerful platform for future growth and development.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EOne of the distinctive elements of the redress is an emphasis on forming new relationships to benefit the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa into the future. In addition to the usual relationship agreements with Crown agencies, the redress also includes agreements to work with local government and Te Urewera Board. The $100 million in financial and commercial redress, which the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa will receive through the settlement, places them in a key position to contribute to the economy of Hawke\u2019s Bay and Gisborne. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EToday is a significant moment, a historic moment, for both the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa and for the Crown. While we should never forget our history, today marks a truly important step in moving together beyond our shared history and beginning a new relationship built on mutual respect, trust, cooperation, and partnership. I wish the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa and the T\u0101tau T\u0101tau o Te Wairoa Trust well in the successful continuation of this process. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022 data-id=\u0022d60b0eeb09ea4a0d99c0f81c02a21829\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d60b0eeb09ea4a0d99c0f81c02a21829\u0022\u003ENUK KORAKO (National):\u003C/span\u003E E Te Mana Whakaw\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 k\u014Dwaitaka o t\u014D t\u0101tou matua t\u012Bpuna. He k\u0101meha nui ki te mihi atu ki t\u014D t\u0101tou Matua Nui i te Raki, ko Ia te t\u012Bmataka me te whakaute kua tao katoa. N\u014D reira, ka mihi au ki te kaih\u014Dmai o k\u0101 mea pai katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EKa maumahara m\u0101tou ki a r\u0101tou kai tu kua wehe ki te taha wairua. N\u014D reira, \u0101e, e koutou r\u0101 o ia marae, o ia iwi, o ia waka, e haere i ruka ki te ara o te wh\u0101nui a T\u0101ne kua tua o te \u0101rai, haere, haere, haere atu r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koutou o ng\u0101 uri o T\u0101kitimu waka, o te whanauka o T\u0101kitimu waka. Nei r\u0101 te mihi h\u014Dhonu ki ng\u0101 uri o T\u0101kitimu waka\u2014uia mai ki a au, ko wai te tangata e here ai Kahungunu me Tahu P\u014Dtiki, m\u0101ku e whakahoki ko Tamatea P\u014Dkai Whenua, n\u0101na i piki te maunga, i t\u016B runga i R\u0101paki ki te whakakarakia ki t\u0113tahi tuhoka ki te hoatu te ahi hei whakamahana \u014Dna iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu me Rongomaiwahine, n\u014D reira nau mai, haere mai t\u014D Whare Miere. Nau mai, whakatau mai, e mihi atu, e mihi atu, e mihi atu ki a koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E[Mr Speaker, I formally greet you all the different strands of our common ancestor. I am honoured to pay tribute to our Heavenly Father, He who is the originator and cares for all things. Therefore, I pay tribute to the giver of all good things.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ELet us remember those yonder, who have gone to the gathering place of spirits. Therefore, yes, to those of you from each marae, from each tribe, from each waka, who have travelled the broad path of T\u0101ne to beyond the veil, farewell, farewell, farewell.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI now greet you all who are descended from the T\u0101kitimu waka, who are related to the T\u0101kitimu canoe. I pay my deepest regards to the descendants of the T\u0101kitimu canoe\u2014if you ask me who the person is who is responsible for joining together Kahungunu and Tahu P\u014Dtiki, I will tell you it was Tamatea P\u014Dkai Whenua, he who climbed the mountain, stood on top of R\u0101paki and delivered incantations to the priest/gods to give him fire in order to warm his people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ETherefore, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu and Rongomaiwahine, welcome, welcome to the Beehive. So welcome, welcome, I greet you, I greet you, I pay my respects to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EIt is indeed my pleasure to be able to stand to speak on the third and final reading of the Iwi and Hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa Claims Settlement Bill. I want to acknowledge the work of the Minister who has just resumed his seat, the Hon Andrew Little, particularly about this journey. It was indeed in the 51st Parliament that this bill actually started its journey, and then the work in the first reading through to the submission process by the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, and then through to the second reading, and then the committee stage and the third reading today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI think what\u2019s important for the Hansard, for the record, is I want to just to concentrate on a number of very, very important points about this particular settlement and what it is part of, because this is actually the record of Parliament, which will be here for ever. The first one was to acknowledge the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa and the history, particularly around the fact that they did not actually sign the Treaty of Waitangi. The reason for that was because it was never sighted by them, and so they couldn\u2019t sign it. The other part of it is that when the war did come, around the colonial wars and the Land Wars, they tried very, very hard to step away from it. I think the important thing, though, that strikes at the heart of everything we hold dear as descendants of those Christian folk, M\u0101ori and P\u0101keh\u0101 alike, who fought each other at Omaruhakeke k\u0101inga on Christmas Day 1865\u2014and, for the record, that is very much where this tragedy, in a lot of ways, actually begins.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EIt makes me wonder at the desperation of the Crown that it would abandon values it said it held so dear and it would decide Christmas Day was an appropriate day to kill their fellow New Zealand citizens in 1865, and that it would be willing to command its M\u0101ori troops\u2014whanauka to those who stood at the palisades, across from their cousins\u2014to fight on this day held so sacred by both sides. We remember and mourn all those who fell that day, M\u0101ori and P\u0101keh\u0101 alike, but my heart especially cries for New Zealand citizens, citizens of M\u0101ori descent, looking to protect their lands from greedy hands of unscrupulous land dealers and a compliant Government\u2014that the price they would pay would be death. Why was the M\u0101ori price of citizenship death for protecting the lawful property rights? Why were the people of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu required to take sides against each other when both were seeking the same recognition of their inherent rights as New Zealand citizens?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EFighting for the Crown didn\u2019t protect M\u0101ori from the greedy hands of those that sought to take their whenua, and fighting against the Crown saw M\u0101ori labelled rebels on their own land when not 25 years earlier they had owned most of the country outright. Had the people of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa been allowed to take the role that they thought they would have had, had they been able to sight the Treaty of Waitangi and sign it, had they been left to their article 2 rights to retain their land, had they been treated as equal British citizens, with all the legal rights to protection of their lands that that entailed\u2014if this had happened, the only rebels would have been the Crown and the attendant land-grabbers themselves.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EIt looks like their land-grabs is this particular record: in 1867, under duress, Wairoa M\u0101ori were required to cede 42,000 acres to the Crown despite protests from many of the iwi living in the rohe. In 1867 and 1868, the Native Land Court continued its destructive practice of awarding Wairoa land blocks to 10 individual landowners, trusting that these individuals would act as trustees. But let\u2019s be clear: the courts knew full well that this would not occur, and that 10 owners would be tempted to alienate land they owned at the expense of their own whanauka.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EIn the 1870s, taking land for public works purposes from the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa\u2014Te \u014Cpoutama, the compulsory taking of land from M\u0101ori while leasing land from their P\u0101keh\u0101 neighbours, as well. In 1875, the Crown acquired 178,000 acres of land near Waikaremoana by exploiting confusion about the legal status of the blocks and by paying off some iwi over others. In the 20th century, the Crown misused its monopoly powers by purchasing property from individual owners, after the owners had collectively decided against selling. We arrive at this point, where 90 percent of the iwi and hap\u016B live outside of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa, and for those who remain trying to maintain their ahik\u0101, for all their wh\u0101nau have suffered serious socio-economic deprivation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ESo it\u2019s only right in this House that today the Crown acknowledges all of the wrongs that have actually been done to this proud iwi and hap\u016B and, looking at Te Rohe o Te Wairoa, the acknowledgment of that fateful 1865 Christmas Day attack on what was very much a breach of the Treaty of Waitangi. Just to acknowledge the fact that in this settlement the vesting of the important five, first, which are the Kumi Pakarae Conservation Area, the Mahia Peninsula Local Purpose (Esplanade) Reserve, Morere Springs Scenic Reserve, Otoki Government Purpose (Wildlife Management) Reserve, and Te Reinga Scenic Reserve property B.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EThe important thing is that those particular properties, which are in this settlement, are actually going to be part of this settlement, but, also, this iwi and the hap\u016B have actually required that they are also going to be shared by all New Zealanders as well\u2014all New Zealanders\u2014and that is mana, that is real mana.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ESo this settlement, even though the quantum has been talked about, nothing can actually, I think, right the wrong, but at least this is a very, very important step forward for this iwi and to continue now once this bill has been passed today. Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Te Rohe o Wairoa, you are now here to complete the final step of your journey in this House before your settlement bill is sent to Government House for Royal assent, and then your bill will become an Act of Parliament. Many have passed on since the beginning of your h\u012Bkoi to this place today, and we remember them. Relationships have been forged, and relationships have been broken, but now is the time, I think, for reparation of those particular relationships.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to acknowledge all of the officials, negotiators, and there are also people that have started but did not actually live to see this final day, and we remember them also. The final part of that is that I\u2019d like to acknowledge one person who I know worked hard on this settlement. I know the work that she did during my tenure as chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and know that she worked very, very hard for her people on this bill. I do want to acknowledge the work of my parliamentary colleague, whanauka, tuahine, the Hon Meka Whaitiri.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EFinally, \u0101piti hono t\u0101tai hono, r\u0101tou ki te hunga mate, ki te hunga mate ki a r\u0101tou; \u0101piti hono t\u0101tai hono, t\u0101tou ki te hunga ora, ki te hunga ora ki a t\u0101tou. Ko te iwi o te rohe o Te Wairoa, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, Rongomaiwahine, go well. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, e mihi, e mihi atu ki a koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E[Finally, let the dead be the dead and the living be the living. To the tribe of the Wairoa district, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, Rongomaiwahine, go well. I pay you my earnest and ongoing respects.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EKia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022 data-id=\u00229053c4a26ce44dcd934f7213f8f32a8a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229053c4a26ce44dcd934f7213f8f32a8a\u0022\u003ERINO TIRIKATENE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Tonga):\u003C/span\u003E Kororia, hareruia ki a Ihoa o ng\u0101 mano. Matua, Tama, Wairua Tapu me whakah\u014Dnore ki ng\u0101 Anahera pono me Te M\u0101ngai hei tautoko mai \u0101ianei, ake nei, \u0101e.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ET\u0113n\u0101 koutou \u014Dku rangatira. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 iwi, ng\u0101 hap\u016B o te rohe o Te Wairoa. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou T\u0101kitimu waka, Rongomaiwahine, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, aku whanaunga o Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera; t\u0113nei e t\u016B atu nei e mihi atu ki a koutou. Nau mai, whakatau mai ki Te Whare P\u0101remata i whakat\u016B nei. Nau mai, whakatau mai ki t\u0113nei r\u0101 whakahirahira, i t\u0113nei r\u0101 te p\u0101nuitanga tuatoru o t\u0113nei pire. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E\u0100e, ka huri, me mihi atu ki a r\u0101tou kua whet\u016Brangitia. He mihi maumahara ki a r\u0101tou. \u0100e. Ng\u0101 mate huhua o te w\u0101, haere e ng\u0101 mate, \u0101piti hono t\u0101tai hono, ko te hunga wairua ki te hunga wairua; \u0101piti hono t\u0101tai hono, ko t\u0101tou te kanohi ora e tau nei ki a t\u0101tou t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[Glory and praise to Jehovah of the multitudes; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and honour to the faithful angels and the Prophet to help us, now and for ever, amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EGreetings to you, my chiefs. Greetings to the tribes and the subtribes of the Wairoa district. Greetings to you T\u0101kitimu canoe, to Rongomaiwahine, to Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, to my relations from Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera; I stand here to pay my respects to you all. Welcome, welcome me to Parliament House which stands here. Welcome, welcome me to this important day, the day of the third reading of this bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EYes, I must now pay my respects to those who have passed on. Let us remember them. Yes. To the various ones who have recently passed, I say farewell. The genealogical lines which connect us have been recognised; let the spirits remain with the spirits. The genealogical lines which connect us have been acknowledged; let the living remain with the living. Greetings, greetings, to one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EIt is a great honour for me to stand in tautoko, in support, of this bill for our manuhiri, our illustrious manuhiri who have travelled from far and wide to be here on this auspicious occasion\u2014the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EIn the language of settlements these days, they use the term large natural groupings, and this is a very large natural grouping that we have here assembled in our Whare today. I don\u2019t have the time to actually acknowledge all of the whakapapa, the hap\u016B that comprise this wonderful group of our manuhiri and our honoured guests today. Suffice to say that the k\u0101hui that make up ng\u0101 iwi and ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Te Rohe o Te Wairoa are all here today, and I want to just acknowledge them all. So I will acknowledge and I mihi to Ng\u0101ti R\u0101kaipaaka, I mihi to and I acknowledge Ng\u0101 Tokorima a Hinemanuhiri. I want to acknowledge and mihi to Rongomaiwahine Iwi/Ng\u0101i Te R\u0101kat\u014D. I also want to do a double mihi to Te Wairoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ETaku mihi ki Te Wairoa Kapo K\u014Drau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[I pay my respects to Wairoa, known for picking k\u014Drau.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI want to mihi to the Wairoa Waikaremoana M\u0101ori Trust Board, and I want to mihi to Whakak\u012B Nui-a-Rua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ENow, those k\u0101hui clusters comprise ng\u0101 iwi me ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Te Rohe o Te Wairoa, and I do know that behind, and making up, all of those clusters are the very many hap\u016B and wh\u0101nau that are all represented here by the descendants of all those illustrious ancestors. Can I acknowledge our matua that gave a beautiful whaik\u014Drero in the mihi whakatau this morning. It is all about those connections, the connections that we have. That\u2019s what makes us M\u0101ori, is our whakapapa, and I do want to acknowledge not only the whakapapa of our manuhiri today but also the connections that were made from all of us right throughout this House, right across the motu, as acknowledged by my whanaunga Tutehounuku. We\u2019re T\u0101kitimu waka down in the South\u2014we believe there\u2019s a waka down there in the deep T\u0101kitimus. So there are a lot of connections that we do have, and so I do want to just acknowledge that all today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThis is such a special day. We are at the end of this very long journey. Can I acknowledge the negotiators and all of those rangatira that have worked so hard over the years to get us to this point, from t\u016Btira through to now, t\u0101tou t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ESo I want to acknowledge all the work that they did, and also from all sides that were involved in this work. It is not easy. It\u2019s a long, arduous task, but I think they can be very proud of their efforts, because especially with such a large natural group, to have such a large group together in the way that they have been able to forge together through this process is quite remarkable. So I want to acknowledge the former Minister, the Hon Chris Finlayson, and the Hon Andrew Little for their work as well in holding up the Crown side on these very special matters.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EWe\u2019ve heard both the Minister and Mr Korako talk about the history, and we must never forget. That\u2019s why we do have the historical record and the acknowledgments from the Crown and their apologies for the breaches\u2014the breaches of Te Tiriti o Waitangi\u2014that were inflicted upon our manuhiri, ng\u0101 iwi me ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Te Rohe o Te Wairoa. As has been spoken of, it\u2019s all about\u2014and it is\u2014the core of every Treaty settlement in this House: it is the loss of land and the resulting loss of mana and all of the resulting impacts that it has on the wh\u0101nau and the hap\u016B. That was no more evident than, as has been mentioned, through the 1860s, when we hear terms of just the dubious purchases, acquisitions, transactions, surveys, surveyors\u2014all of those actions that took place during those times ultimately led to a tremendous loss of land, tremendous loss of ancestral lands, and huge impacts on our manuhiri today. So we must acknowledge that, and I\u2019m pleased that every Treaty settlement maintains the historical record up front.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI want to just, lastly\u2014again, I want to acknowledge the manuhiri, because today I saw a gentlemen, Mr \u0112noka Munro, from Whakak\u012B. He\u2019s an inspiration to me, and I pay acknowledgment to him and his late wife, Auntie Dorie, n\u014D Ng\u0101i Tahu. I remember a discussion that I had when I was running for this House down in Blenheim, where Uncle and Auntie were living. He was talking to me about these great eels that they have in Whakak\u012B, and I know I said in my second reading that when \u201CMatua Shane\u201D reopens that railway line from Wairoa to Gisborne, we\u2019re going to bring out the R\u0101tana band and we\u2019re going to have a feed of eels. I was delighted to be able to see Matua Enoka here today to witness this occasion, So mihi tonu atu ki a koe e te rangatira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[So I continue to acknowledge you as the leader.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ESo that\u2019s what these settlements are all about. It\u2019s about reaffirming\u2014not only reaffirming\u2014the indigeneity that we have to our ancestral landscapes, which will be through all the different settlement measures and redress mechanisms that are in place in these bills. That\u2019s what it\u2019s all about: it\u2019s about our mahinga kai, it\u2019s about te taiao\u2014the environment, our landmarks, the associations that historical names\u2014all of those things. That\u2019s what these settlements are all about, and I know that there\u2019s going to be a big feed of eels for me one day when I get up to Whakak\u012B, and I certainly hope I can enjoy some with Matua Enoka there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ESo with those remarks, can I just once again acknowledge our manuhiri on this very auspicious occasion. Congratulations, and I wish them all the very best. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u0022877300dcefa443ca8ea5fefc0d05708c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022877300dcefa443ca8ea5fefc0d05708c\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (National):\u003C/span\u003E It\u2019s always good to follow Mr Tirikatene in this House. I acknowledge him, and can I also acknowledge his late Auntie Whet\u016B, because, I think, in the old days when there were four M\u0101ori seats, her seat of Southern Maori started around M\u0101hia Peninsula and went all the way down the west coast and then took in all the South Island. So when her nephew complains about all the work that he has to do, all I say to him is, \u201CGet real! Auntie had far more territory to cover.\u201D But Whet\u016B was a great woman, and I thoroughly enjoyed her company as I got to know her in later years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThis is the final stage of the legislative process for this legislation. It was introduced on 20 December 2016, and Mr Korako was then the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and steered it through the committee stages after it was referred to the select committee on 14 March 2017, and now it\u2019s back in the House for its third reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ECan I begin by also acknowledging the negotiators over the years for Te Tira Whakaemi o Te Wairoa, John Whaanga and T\u0101mati Olsen. They always had a very commercial approach to matters, but, at the same time, were adamant that the cultural component of the settlement had to, in some way, acknowledge the degree of land loss. It\u2019s very easy with Treaty settlements simply to talk about the money or the commercial opportunities; there\u2019s so much more to a Treaty settlement than that. I\u2019ve said on many occasions that Treaty settlements are not mere commercial deals; they are a lot more important than that. John and T\u0101mati did a great job, especially with the difficult negotiations over Te Urewera, and I acknowledge them and thank them for their service to their iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EI also acknowledge the Crown representatives\u2014my old friend Pat Snedden. I\u2019m sure Pat won\u2019t mind my saying this\u2014he\u2019s an old lefty. He phoned me shortly after I became the Minister, because he\u2019d been involved with Te Tira over the years, and also with the iwi of the Far North. He said, \u201CI suppose you want my resignation.\u201D, and I said, \u201COh no, Pat. Just carry on.\u201D He did a great job for me over the years as a Crown negotiator, and I greatly appreciated getting to know him and working with him. He certainly has a heart as big as the rohe of Te Tira, and I acknowledge him and what he\u2019s done for his country over the years. I also acknowledge John Harbord for his work as the Crown negotiator. I think the Deputy Prime Minister once said that I only appointed \u201Cmy mates\u201D as Crown negotiators. Well, Pat Snedden\u2019s many things, but he ain\u2019t my mate. But that having been said\u2014well, he ended up my mate, I suppose. He\u2019s a very nice guy. Like so many of the statements that Mr Peters made, that was scrambled and off the mark.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s been a tremendous pleasure to work with the various large natural groupings (LNGs) of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu over the years. They\u2019re a magnificent iwi that are going to play their part not only on the East Coast of New Zealand but throughout the country in the years to come. So on 17 December 2010, I signed a deed of settlement with Ng\u0101ti P\u0101hauwera\u2014a wonderful group of people in the northern part of the bay\u2014and, of course, I\u2019ve been dealing with them over their foreshore and seabed arrangements. Then, on 25 May 2013, I signed a deed of settlement on behalf of the Crown with Maungaharuru-Tangit\u016B. They too\u2014and I think of Bevan Taylor and all the wonderful people there\u2014have contributed so much to the region. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EMana Ahuriri hap\u016B and the Crown signed a deed of settlement on 13 June 2017, and I very much look forward to when their legislation can be introduced to the House. I\u2019m sure Mr Nash won\u2019t mind my saying so: he and I have been anxious about that. I\u2019d like to see that legislation introduced. Their leadership has compromised, to great extent, and has been dealing with some pretty strong opposition. Financially, they\u2019ve suffered as a result of delays, and I think it would be good if the Crown could recognise that. Heretaunga Tamatea and I signed a deed of settlement on 26 September 2015, and, of course, their legislation only recently had its third reading. They are a fantastic bunch of people, as well. This deed of settlement, as has been said, was signed at T\u0101kitimu Marae on 26 November 2016.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ESo all that leaves is Wairarapa, and I\u2019m surprised that they haven\u2019t got there, because Ron Mark\u2019s in Cabinet and should be jollying them along. They signed an agreement in principle with me on 7 May 2016, and I think they\u2019re going through the ratification work now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ESo when you add up the cumulative total of the various LNGs of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, normally two sets of comments are made to me. The first, from many mean-spirited people, is, \u201CWhy have they got over $350 million all up?\u201D, and I have to say to them, \u201CWell, just look around you. Look at the extent of the land loss. Look at the history.\u201D The extent of the land loss in Wairoa alone is massive, and that is why they have a Treaty settlement of that order. The other comment that\u2019s made\u2014best exemplified by our old friend Hekia Parata, who is a Ngati Porou person to her fingertips\u2014is, \u201CWhy did they get so much? We never got that.\u201D I have to say, \u201CWell, bad luck. Their land loss was greater.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ESo I acknowledge all the LNGs of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, and this is an appropriate time to congratulate each and every one of them for their huge contribution, as I say, not only to the East Coast of the North Island but to New Zealand. I truly do believe that their very best days are ahead of them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EIn question time, there was a scrambled question that I think came from Mr Peters, related to Ng\u0101puhi\u2014why can\u2019t they settle, and the \u201Cglacial\u201D pace. Well, I think probably part of the problem with Ng\u0101puhi is that so many of the Ng\u0101puhis are related to him, which explains the problems. But I think the reality of the matter is that they simply haven\u2019t had the leadership that one would see in great iwi like Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu. I would say to Mr Peters and one of his henchmen sitting there, Mr Jones, who, along with Mr Peters, wants to abolish the M\u0101ori seats\u2014I tell that to Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu: they want to abolish the M\u0101ori seats. I would say to them that if they look at the leadership\u2014the outstanding leadership\u2014of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu and all the great people who have come up through the LNGs when the moment was needed to show that leadership, then I suggest that they could look to Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu and learn a thing or two from them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EFinally, I want to wish Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu and all the LNGs that make it up all the very best for the future. Can I say, I\u2019ll be keeping a very close look on the relationship with T\u016Bhoe. Wira Gardiner did a tremendous amount of work to bring the various groups together over the arrangements for Te Urewera. If there\u2019s anything that simply has to succeed in the years to come, it\u2019s Te Urewera. I know that there\u2019s tremendous goodwill on the part of T\u016Bhoe and Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu to make sure that that happens. With goodwill and with the kind of leadership that we\u2019ve seen over the years with negotiations, I have no doubt at all that that will happen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ESo congratulations to Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu. It\u2019s wonderful to have you in this House. I very much look forward to seeing you in the years to come as this great iwi grows and continues to contribute to New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022 data-id=\u0022e0cf9935ff594c90852fc7e91c6f5385\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e0cf9935ff594c90852fc7e91c6f5385\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Just before I call the Hon Shane Jones, I just point out to the House that we have turned out the lights at the end there. There was one that was flickering, and we know how that drives people crazy. It\u2019s not that we\u2019re turning out the lights on you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u0022ad5b0ca61ca74579a102e2e5d6e67ab7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ad5b0ca61ca74579a102e2e5d6e67ab7\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (Minister of Forestry):\u003C/span\u003E Before I speak in M\u0101ori, as the former Minister, Christopher Finlayson, leaves the House and gives that speech, dimness arrives in the Whare P\u0101remata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EMe reo M\u0101ori e Te M\u0101ngai o te Whare. Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Ko au ko Muriwhenua e mihi atu t\u0113nei ki \u0101 koutou, t\u014D koutou p\u0101 i waenga tonu i a m\u0101tou o Tinotino te w\u0101hi i wh\u0101nau mai ai t\u014D t\u0101ua tupuna a Kahungunu\u2014i roto i ahau ko Kahu-hunu\u2014me tana tuahine a Hinetapu. I heke mai ai m\u0101tou o Muriwhenua erangi rawa t\u014D koutou hoa t\u014Dku matua a Hekenukumai Busby, he uri t\u016Bturu o taua kuia a Hinetapu. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ET\u0113n\u0101 rawa atu koutou t\u0101 te mea he m\u014Dhio n\u014Dku i waenga tonu i \u0101 koutou, he k\u014Dhine e hia r\u0101nei \u014Dna tau in\u0101ianei\u2014kei te 40 pea, t\u0113n\u0101 k\u014Dtiro ka wh\u0101nau mai i te w\u0101 i t\u016B ai te hui-\u0101-tau m\u014D ng\u0101 W\u0101hine Toko i Te Ora ki Kaitaia, ka noho a Kahungunu me \u014D koutou m\u0101tua te Okenga Paraire m\u0101 i runga i t\u014Dku marae. N\u014D t\u0113r\u0101 w\u0101 i wh\u0101nau mai ai te p\u0113pi nei, a t\u0113tahi o \u0101 koutou k\u014Dhine ka huangia t\u0113n\u0101 p\u0113pi ki te ingoa o t\u014Dku marae ake, ko M\u0101himaru. N\u0101 me ng\u0101 p\u0101nga i honohono nei t\u0113tahi pito ki t\u0113tahi k\u0113 atu n\u0101 reira e Te Wairoa\u2014Te Wairoa H\u014Dp\u016Bp\u016B H\u014Dnengenenge M\u0101tangi Rau papaki pai n\u014Dku te whakahuhua i t\u0113n\u0101 ingoa, engari te ingoa rangatira o t\u014D koutou awa, t\u014D koutou rohe, t\u0113nei te mihi i roto i t\u014D t\u0101tou Reo M\u0101ori ki \u0101 koutou katoa; me te h\u012Bkoinga ka hia r\u0101nei te roa kia tat\u016B mai ai koutou \u0101-tinana me \u014D koutou moemoe\u0101 ki konei i t\u0113nei r\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EHei w\u0101hanga whakamutunga m\u0101ku i roto i Te Reo M\u0101ori, me mihi ahau ki t\u0101 koutou k\u014Dhine, ki a Meka\u2014tana manawaroa kia tat\u016B mai i te aroaro o t\u014Dna iwi i t\u0113nei r\u0101 i waenga tonu i \u014Dna hoa ng\u0101 kait\u014Drangap\u016B i roto tonu i te ana o te raiona. Koia t\u0113nei t\u0113tahi ao pakeke rawa atu\u2014whiua t\u0113tahi whakapae k\u0101rawarawa pai k\u012B ana te tangata; engari m\u0101ku te k\u012B atu ki a koutou e hia r\u0101nei ka whakawhiua ka utaina mai ki runga ki ahau, ko t\u0101ku ki t\u0101 koutou k\u014Dhine ki a Meka, kia manawaroa, kia m\u014Dhio koe n\u0101 Te Tai R\u0101whiti koe i whakat\u016B ki t\u0113nei Whare ki t\u0113r\u0101 t\u016Branga\u2014ehara n\u0101 t\u014D r\u014Dp\u016B, ehara n\u0101 m\u0101tou ng\u0101 kait\u014Drangap\u016B, engari n\u0101 te marea i ng\u0101kaunui ki a koe kia t\u016B ai koe hei Mema M\u0101ori. Ko koe e whai ana i ng\u0101 tapuwae a Timi Kara. Ko koe e whai ana i ng\u0101 tapuwae a Ngata, ko koe e whai ana i ng\u0101 tapuwae a Tiaki Omana, e whai ana koe i ng\u0101 tapuwae o \u0113r\u0101 o \u0101 t\u0101tou m\u0101tua a Takamoana, a Karaipiana, \u014D m\u0101tua ake o roto i a Kahungunu. Kia \u016B, kia manawaroa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[I shall speak M\u0101ori, Madam Deputy Speaker. Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, greetings to all of you. I Muriwhenua stand to pay our respects to you all and the relationship that we share, given that Tinotino is the place where our ancestor Kahungunu was born\u2014where I\u2019m from, we say Kahu-hunu\u2014and his wife Hinetapu. We from Muriwhenua are descendants, but your friend and my elder Hekenukumai Busby, he is a direct descendant of that ancestress Hinetapu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI particularly greet you knowing that among you is a young woman, aged how many years now? Forty, perhaps. That girl was born during the Women\u2019s Health League annual conference held in Kaitaia, when Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu elders including Okenga Paraire and others stayed at my marae. This baby was born at that time and one of your young women named that baby after my own marae, M\u0101himaru. It is these kinds of relationships which connect one side to another, therefore Te Wairoa H\u014Dp\u016Bp\u016B H\u014Dnengenenge M\u0101tangi Rau\u2014what a job to pronounce that name, albeit it is a noble chiefly name that you have for your river, your district. This is me paying respects to you all in our M\u0101ori language; you have been on this journey for how many long years now, and you have finally come here today in person bringing with you your hopes and dreams. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EMy final point to make while I am in M\u0101ori, is to give respect to your kinswoman, to Meka. It is very courageous of her to front up to her people today in the midst of her parliamentary colleagues in the lion\u2019s den. This can be a really harsh environment\u2014vicious accusations levelled against people occur often. I say to you as someone who has had his fair share of being on the receiving end, I say to your daughter, to Meka, be staunch safe in the knowledge that it was Te Tai R\u0101whiti who put you in this House in that position\u2014not your party, not us politicians, but the public who wanted you to be their M\u0101ori member of Parliament. You are following in the footsteps of James Carroll. You are following in the footsteps of Ngata, you are following in the footsteps of Tiaki Omana, you are following in the footsteps of those of our elders such as Takamoana, Karaitiana, indeed of your own elders from within Kahungunu. Do not flinch, be staunch.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThe points that I have made in our M\u0101ori language really are an affirmation of not only the work that\u2019s taken place but the longstanding lengths, because, if I\u2019m not mistaken, after the Ng\u0101puhi tribe, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu and Ngati Porou are probably the most numerous of the iwi. But Kahungunu\u2019s story, which is partly told in this settlement, is the story not only of Donald McLean but of the M\u0101ori Land Wars, to borrow a hackneyed expression. Indeed, Te Wairoa was, in its time, a garrison town, and you, hailing from that part of the country politically, Madam Deputy Speaker, would appreciate the significance of this day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThis particular settlement, whilst it endows capital on behalf of the taxpayers\u2014via Mr Finlayson, via Mr Little, and via this Parliament\u2014into the ownership of this part of Kahungunu, the sad reality is that now is the challenge, in an area where mainstream New Zealand services are infrequently seen in our more distant provincial areas. So it\u2019s a doubly challenging task, in both an economic sense and a social sense, to bring back vitality when mainstream investment is hurtling off in a different direction.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThe assets that are represented in this settlement are not only cultural, because that\u2019s important. They give strength to identity, and identity for iwi is going to grow in importance as the multiracial and multicultural nature of our society changes. That\u2019s just the reality of globalisation. But there\u2019s one reality that this settlement does build on, and that\u2019s the fact that the M\u0101ori tribes who signed up to the Treaty of Waitangi had a set of expectations not fully realised in any manner or form, but today we are trying to restore honour to the Crown and opportunity to Kahungunu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ESo celebrate your leaders who led what was undoubtedly a challenging and, in some respects, unrewarding experience\u2014having been one of those figures myself back in the days of M\u0101ori fisheries. These kinds of things are not careers; they are a mission. So for those of you who mandated your leaders, for those of you who have come today\u2014as I said in our M\u0101ori language\u2014guard the interests of your member, Meka Whaitiri. You are the people that send the M\u0101ori members in M\u0101ori seats to this House, and whilst she is wading her way through a process\u2014having suffered several of those processes, unfortunately, my good self\u2014they do require the backbone of iwi and wh\u0101nau. It\u2019s only appropriate that I should acknowledge her, given that you\u2019ve done a great deal of work in an earlier phase, Minister Meka Whaitiri.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThe opportunities going forward are that the settlements, this settlement in particular, now need to join with other forces and stakeholders and pots of capital so that it can turn around the fortunes of these parts of Aotearoa where we need to think very differently as to how we extract value. But the opportunity is there, and, in the event that you feel that your bank is not looking after you, I\u2019m your man. Kia ora t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022 data-id=\u00220d0459ce3b0e496a8e4d94da1a66e5f2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220d0459ce3b0e496a8e4d94da1a66e5f2\u0022\u003EDr SHANE RETI (National\u2014Whangarei):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker. T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Whare. Rau rangatira m\u0101, kia ora mai t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E[Greetings to the House. Distinguished chiefs, good evening.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s a pleasure to take a call on this bill, which I had the good fortune to speak to at the first reading on 14 March last year. The parliamentary process over that time has been timely when one considers the whole settlement process has journeyed over eight or nine years. Guiding that journey I want to acknowledge Minister Finlayson and Minister Little, Office of Treaty Settlements officials, the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee chairs\u2014my colleagues Nuk Korako and Rino Tirikatene-Sullivan\u2014and iwi and hap\u016B negotiators. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003EOn 12 May last year, I had the pleasure of accompanying the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee to Wairoa, to the Wairoa Community Centre. I travelled by car with the chairperson, Nuk Korako, and that day we heard claimants express the importance of the settlement to their community. We heard claimants express their whakapapa to the land from the past to the present and now into the future. We heard that the non-financial elements of historical and cultural acknowledgment are just as important for the mana and integrity of the iwi and the hap\u016B as the dollar sum being discussed. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003EAs the chairperson, Nuk, and I drove away later that day we were reflecting on the day. The fact is, I recall I was the one reflecting because Nuk had taken the advice of locals and was devouring a pie from Osler\u2019s Bakery by himself, and as the pastry settled in the car we reflected on how we could best advance the cause and settlement of this iwi and this hap\u016B\u2014what was our role as parliamentarians? Everything we heard resonated, everything we believed, everything was true\u2014what was our role going forward? And I think the conclusion we came to was to substantiate the process of the select committee, to not have any hindrance, to collaborate and work with others across the House and make sure for this iwi and their hap\u016B that their aspirations were realised. Today is that day. Today, we join the hope of generations to commitments from the Crown, and today we all wish the hap\u016B and the iwi great wisdom and peace in their way forward with this settlement. Kia ora mai t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022 data-id=\u0022c904bcdb860a4db4be9ed1bef2a0580f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c904bcdb860a4db4be9ed1bef2a0580f\u0022\u003EJAN LOGIE (Green):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Madam Deputy Speaker. He mihi kau ana t\u0113nei ki ng\u0101 uri o ng\u0101 hap\u016B o te rohe o Te Wairoa. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003E[May I certainly add my respects to the descendants of the subtribes of the Wairoa district. Greetings, greetings, thrice greetings to one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EOn behalf of the Green Party, I want to join other members in this House in welcoming the people and the leaders from the iwi and hap\u016B o Te Rohe o Te Wairoa. It\u2019s been 30 years since Te Rohe o Te Wairoa lodged their claim, and 16 years since members of that hap\u016B and iwi of the Wairoa district came together at Rangiahua Marae to plan for the resolution of their claim\u201430 years. There are members in this Parliament and in our party who were not born yet at that time. And that was the start of a process that concludes here today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EOf course, the original and ongoing harm that we acknowledge today has compounded across many generations from the 1840s. Today, in this House, we stand unified in acknowledging the wrong. I want to acknowledge all of those who have exercised such incredible persistence over those decades and over those generations to get this bill to this stage today. I understand that we have particular acknowledgments to make to John Whaanga, Te Tira lead negotiator; Tamati Olsen, Te Tira chair; and T\u0101tau T\u0101tau o Te Wairoa Trust, especially the chair, Leon Symes, and deputy chair, Pieri Munro.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EBut, of course, I suspect all the work is founded on the resistance and faith of kaum\u0101tua and kuia, many of whom have passed already. So I too would like to add to the Green Party\u2019s voice in remembrance for the efforts of all those who have passed before we saw this day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EThis can only ever be a partial acknowledgment of what happened. So much has gone on in recounting the history. But, again, it is important to put at least some of it from each of our parties on the record again in this House today. So, as has been acknowledged by others, I too want to acknowledge that one of the first breaches was of the Treaty not even getting to your area, and then you being bound to this document and this agreement that the Crown put in place that you didn\u2019t sign up to, and then you were forced into this arrangement that you had no say in. I want to acknowledge, too, the trust and reconciliation process that has occurred as a part of the reconciliation, and that that is about healing\u2014healing the hurts that have occurred across the generations. But it is still within the frame of the Crown, as is the financial settlement in particular.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EI think we should acknowledge this. It\u2019s not really about reparation. It\u2019s a deed of settlement and it is an agreed and sanitised historical account, but it is not full compensation. My back-of-the-envelope calculations suggest that over 300,000 acres of land were scammed and stolen by settlers and the Crown. The Greens will say this at every reading: we do not actually recognise that this is full and final settlement, even though that is what is written into legislation, because it is not full by any stretch of the imagination. And we do not believe that it can be final, because there is no way of telling at this stage what the impact of those historical breaches will be on future generations. But we recognise that to get this bill to the House and to go through the processes that iwi and hap\u016B have gone through is a huge achievement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003ETe Wairoa T\u0101pokorau submission from the cluster number one estimated the economic loss of hap\u016B o Te Rohe o Te Wairoa from the loss of rates and values of the land that was \u201Calienated\u201D. The total of both accountings came, by their reckoning, to $1,646,373,650, not even counting for the commercial loss or the loss of rental or GST or any of those other factors. The settlement that the Crown currently considers and describes as full provides $100 million in redress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EThe Green Party does not consider this full or final. This is an exceptionally generous gift from Te Rohe of Te Wairoa. I can imagine there may be\u2014and I\u2019ve heard, certainly, from many P\u0101keh\u0101 in this country who might think that $100 million is really generous of the Crown, and that of course the country could never afford that $1.6 billion, as if the iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa could afford this loss.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EOf course, the Crown did pay out $1.6 billion in 2010 to people affected by the collapse of South Canterbury Finance, which the Prime Minister at the time, John Key, described as a relatively small payment. I want to put that on record, from the Green Party to New Zealanders\u2014not as a message to the iwi and hap\u016B listening today. Anytime anyone feels the urge to suggest that M\u0101ori are getting something from the Crown, just remember that this was land taken by the Crown and this cannot even touch upon true reparation in a financial sense.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EBut I do want to also be clear that this settlement is the fifth largest in our country\u2019s history for iwi, and the negotiators have done their people proud. But if we are all to move forward with integrity, the Green Party believes we need to be honest about the limitations of the Crown\u2019s general approach to settlements and acknowledge our collective moral and financial debt to hap\u016B and iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003ETo touch briefly on some of those breaches\u2014going right back to the non-arrival of the Treaty, and the binding to that agreement, and the dodgy practices around surveying, and not investigating customary rights, and the Crown putting M\u0101ori under extreme duress; using confusion over the legal status of the land to take thousands and thousands of acres; the breaking up of customary and collectively owned land into individual ownership to then be able to effectively steal it; and taking more land through the Public Works Act. This Crown has been responsible for all of those acts of theft.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EAs we heard, and I spoke on the second reading of this bill on the last sitting day before Christmas last year, we remembered the invasion of the Crown of Omaruhakeke k\u0101inga, where M\u0101ori who were defending the land\u2014peaceful occupation of their own land\u2014were summarily executed by the Crown and others taken and detained without trial on the Chathams. These were acts of deep shame for this Crown that we need to acknowledge as a country to have a hope of healing and moving forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002269dfdffa-4227-42b6-875a-fc8033bc25cc\u0022\u003EIt speaks too that this is about more than money and this is about more than land; this is about the heart and well-being of people and us as a country, and, if we cannot acknowledge the crimes and the wrongs, then we have no hope to move forward on a different basis. So, finally, I hope at the end of today that we can move forward together as a people to a future beyond the past.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022 data-id=\u0022cdd386889e97484c9727abe258b56cca\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cdd386889e97484c9727abe258b56cca\u0022\u003ELAWRENCE YULE (National\u2014Tukituki):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora, everybody, and welcome to the people of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa. It\u2019s my pleasure as a member of Parliament for Heretaunga and Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu to greet you in your House. It\u2019s my pleasure to acknowledge the Hon Meka Whaitiri in this House today for this significant achievement. Thank you for coming.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022\u003ECan I acknowledge the people responsible for the settlement of this claim\u2014the people that were brave, that elected leaders, and that actually formed a large natural grouping so we could end up in this place today. I\u2019m not sure if your mayor is with you today, but I was with him last evening at the Hawke\u2019s Bay Tourism Awards, where he stole the show with laughter and humour. Because I was in Hawke\u2019s Bay last evening, I know how wet it was. He tried to tell us that the only way he got to the tourism awards was\u2014when he got down to T\u016Btira, the road was flooded, so he had to swim. Of course, we didn\u2019t believe him, but if any of you have had that journey today to get here, you\u2019re looking remarkably dry and well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022\u003EIt is great to have so many people from northern Hawke\u2019s Bay in this, your Chamber, to signify this most significant event. This is one of the six large natural groupings of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu and will make a significant impact to the people of northern Hawke\u2019s Bay, Wairoa, and what I call southern Gisborne. I\u2019m not sure I\u2019m allowed to say that, but that\u2019s what I call it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022\u003EIn doing so, I wish to look forward, but I also wish to personally acknowledge, as my fellow colleagues right around the Parliament have done, that the deed of settlement includes a Crown apology for the actions and omissions and, specifically, for the war fought against those members of this iwi and hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa. They were people it deemed as rebels who, in an unjust attack in 1865, were the subject of a summary execution of prisoners and the detention without trial of some of the members of the iwi and hap\u016B on the Chatham Islands from 1866 to 1868\u2014a horrendous act that was actually replicated in other parts of Kahungunu and other parts of Hawke\u2019s Bay. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022\u003EI have spoken in a number of these settlements\u2019 readings, and my journey of discovery in this place and my journey of discovery when I was the Mayor of Hastings was to understand the significant loss, hurt, and harm that was caused and that is now being redressed. I specifically want to acknowledge the Hon Christopher Finlayson for the work he has done in Kahungunu\u2014and that has been followed by the Hon Andrew Little\u2014to do what can be done to make these wrongs right. I specifically acknowledge the generosity of spirit that is shown by all the people that are sitting in the gallery today in the cultural redress, because the sites are to be vested in T\u0101tau T\u0101tau o Te Wairoa Trust and, importantly, they will then be vested back to the Crown for the people of New Zealand. So, despite all this loss and despite all the hurt to this day, there is a massive generosity of spirit, and this House needs to acknowledge that for the people that are represented today and the people that have negotiated this. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022\u003EI want to touch on two factors that I think are unfinished business: Hereheretau Station is still something, like the Glasgow leases at Te Aute College, that is unresolved. They are a challenge for this Parliament, actually, outside of the Treaty settlements themselves, to resolve, and in the same kindness of spirit that we\u2019ve seen in the gifting back of land to the Crown, I hope there is a generosity of spirit in this Parliament and in the people of New Zealand to make those types of issues be resolved outside of the Treaty settlement claims. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022\u003EI specifically acknowledge the generosity given around the M\u014Drere Springs Reserve. Morere is a significant cultural part of northern Hawke\u2019s Bay and a wonder of nature that has actually been gifted back to the people of New Zealand as part of this process. Once again, that is a massive generosity of spirit. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022\u003ESo, as the Hon Christopher Finlayson said, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu will be the recipient of around $350 million of Treaty settlement money, and $100 million will go to this claim. It has been a long time in the waiting and a long time in the preparation, and when one considers that over 50 percent of the population of the Wairoa District are M\u0101ori, one understands the significance of this settlement. I believe that $100 million\u2014while previous speakers may have said it\u2019s not enough, I believe it is an opportunity for the people of Wairoa to transform the Wairoa District and transform the opportunities for their people, and I acknowledge courageous leaders like Craig Little and Rex Graham, who are trying to make a difference in Wairoa. They are both friends of mine who have supported this Treaty settlement and the opportunities that come from it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s a tremendous honour to stand in this House and support the people of Wairoa. In my farming days, I used to go to the Wairoa saleyards and buy cattle, and they shifted incredibly well down to Heretaunga. The last time I was up there for a big public event\u2014and I see Bill Blake in the audience\u2014was for the Ross Shield, I think was the last time. There was another time when I tried to do an amalgamation up there and I was run out of town, you know. But I have a tremendous respect and a tremendous, tremendous love for Wairoa, its people, and its district as an integral part of Hawke\u2019s Bay and Kahungunu. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220c51564f-6c6e-45cc-adab-f15b6c831fce\u0022\u003EThis is a very, very special day. The redress is what this Government and parties across this Parliament have agreed. I wish you and your people every success and I hope that this redress will not only quench and deal with some of the harm that has been caused but will offer significant economic opportunity for the people of Wairoa. Thank you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u00222815b4e08d814a7aa304205abf270827\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222815b4e08d814a7aa304205abf270827\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister of Employment):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113nei te mihi ki \u0101 koutou, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu kua tae mai nei i t\u0113nei w\u0101, e whakarangatira nei i a m\u0101tou, t\u0113nei te tino mihi ki a koutou. He h\u014Dnore nui ki te t\u016B i waenganui i a koutou i t\u0113nei w\u0101, ki te tautoko i te kaupapa me hoki ki te tautoko i t\u014D t\u0101tou tuahine, t\u014D t\u0101tou toa, Meka Whaitiri, t\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou. Ahakoa tino taumaha i t\u0113nei w\u0101 m\u014D t\u014D t\u0101tou tuahine kei te m\u014Dhio ia ko te kaupapa i t\u0113nei r\u0101, koia r\u0101 te mea nui, he tika kia mihi ki a ia, ki a koutou hoki m\u014D \u014D koutou tautoko i t\u0113nei w\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[I pay my respects to you Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu; by coming here today, you honour us; thank you. I am privileged to stand among you today to support the occasion, as well as to support our sister, our champion, Meka Whaitiri; I acknowledge your presence. Despite this being a trying time for our sister, she realises that the most important thing today is this occasion, therefore it is fitting that she is acknowledged, as you are for your support today. Greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s a privilege to stand in front of this grouping today, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu. All the mihis and history have been done, so I offer a special mihi to Andrew Little. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI want to follow up on the mihis to our MP for the electorate, whose wh\u0101nau is here today, and particularly her mum, May Whaitiri\u2014lovely to see you, Auntie May\u2014who went to school with my mother at Hukarere Girls\u2019 College all those years ago. So we mihi to the mother of Meka, P\u0101nia of the Reef. Homai te pakipaki. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[Let\u2019s give her a round of applause.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EA wahine toa, Auntie May, just like your daughter, who\u2019s been very brave and courageous in coming down to tautoko the kaupapa today. T\u0113nei te mihi ki a koe, e kui.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[I acknowledge you, madam.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESo much has already been said about the history and what\u2019s happened in the past. And I do acknowledge the k\u014Drero from the Greens, particularly. I\u2019ve always said what they\u2019ve said today, that we can never get true and full compensation\u2014an undeniable fact. Great k\u014Drero from our R\u014Dp\u016B Greens today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EHowever, we have an opportunity now. The tribes have an opportunity now, going forward. And so I suppose my question today for our group, T\u0101tau T\u0101tau o Te Wairoa, is: what is the future? What have we learnt from past Treaty settlements? The tribe would\u2019ve watched the investments from different tribes, and we have to be very, very careful going forward. So I\u2019m really interested in how urban M\u0101ori are going to be factored in, in the $100 million settlement. I\u2019m really interested in what the investments will be. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESadly, myself and Shane Jones have been a little bit critical, as we all know, of different iwi investments and decisions through the years. That\u2019s because the future of our people is so important. And I have to say, I get tired of excuses from iwi leaders who refuse to invest in their people\u2014who refuse to invest in their people. We\u2019ve got to get past that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI understand Government obligations, and of course the Government\u2014whether it\u2019s National or Labour\u2014have to support all the health needs, the education needs, all the needs right across society. Both parties have done that through the years, but we as iwi and we as M\u0101ori have to make our contributions, too. When you have your people sleeping in cars, when you have Third-World housing in the North, in the Tainui, on the East Coast, when do we as an iwi put our hands in our pockets? Or is it all about property development, investments? When do the people see the fruits of the settlement?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESo that\u2019s a challenge, I suppose, I want to put to our r\u014Dp\u016B T\u0101tau T\u0101tau o Te Wairoa in this short contribution today: when will the people see the fruits of the settlement? Tainui constituents waited 18 years. Myself and Tamihere challenged them constantly. Is everything going to be left to the Government? That\u2019s not what Doug Graham signed up for. That\u2019s not what he signed up for with Tainui and Bob M\u0101huta. There\u2019s got to be a partnership. I\u2019m not saying to use the full Treaty settlements in terms of investments\u2014not at all. I\u2019m saying, come on. Let\u2019s allocate a percentage so that we can tautoko our iwi. And that\u2019s got to be the end result. So I put that whakaaro to you today, and I thank you for coming down to support the kaupapa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EH\u014Dnore nui t\u0113nei. T\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[This is a great honour. I acknowledge you all. Greetings, greetings one and all.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022 data-id=\u00222098015d89c745db8017408b77e8b084\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222098015d89c745db8017408b77e8b084\u0022\u003EHARETE HIPANGO (National\u2014Whanganui):\u003C/span\u003E E Te M\u0101ngai, e mihi ana ki ng\u0101 uri o te iwi me ng\u0101 hap\u016B o te rohe o Te Wairoa. Nau mai, haere mai i t\u0113nei w\u0101 i roto i Te Whare. T\u0113nei te w\u0101 o te ao hou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E[Madam Assistant Speaker, let me pay my respects to the descendants of the tribes and subtribes of the Wairoa district. Welcome, welcome at this time into the House. It is now the new world.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI stand to speak as a new member of Parliament, the elected member for W\u2019anganui, and, importantly, I am uri of W\u2019anganui. My marae, P\u016Btiki W\u2019arenui a Tamatea P\u014Dkai W\u2019enua, is my connection and my association to Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu. I am also of Ng\u0101ti Apa, Nga Rauru, and Ng\u0101ti Rangi. So I stand here today as a new member of Parliament but also as a member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, and tasked with the duty and responsibility now as an agent of the Crown to acknowledge within your bill\u2014soon to be passed into law\u2014the history, the acknowledgments, the apology, and, importantly, the way forward: the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI have limited time with this call this afternoon. However, as I look upon those of our people of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, te iwi and ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Te Rohe o Te Wairoa gathered here today, I\u2019m heartened because I see the generations\u2014those of us who have come from a time that has been carried through, with your young here today. I am heartened by that and the hope in moving forward that this bill, once it is passed into law, will provide as a vehicle.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EIt is a piece of law that acknowledges reprehension, the wrongness, the injustice, of the history. That is outlined in sections 8 and 9 within the historical context and the acknowledgments of this bill\u2014clauses 8 and 9; soon to be sections\u2014the reprobation. It outlines also reparation, restoration, the redress, relationships\u2014the relationships that have been identified in under the cultural redress component of the bill\u2014and then, importantly, revitalisation. This encompasses all of those things. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI refer to clause 10, the apology, at paragraph (f), and it states that the Crown seeks to restore its tarnished honour and to atone for its past failures to uphold the principles of the Treaty, and, with this, apologises and acknowledges this in the settlement, hoping to build a new relationship that will endure for current and future generations. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003ENow is the time to focus on that future, not forgetting the past, not forgetting the journey that has been traversed to get here. Now is that te ao hou [new world]\u2014a new chapter, a new beginning.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EAs said, it is promising and it is heartening to see the multigenerational gathering of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu here today. It acknowledges the efforts of all those who have gone before, their aspirations to be carried through into the future with the young ones here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003ESo I am humbled and I\u2019m immensely privileged\u2014and that is one of the absolute bonuses of this role as a member, or MP\u2014to be able to address the House and those who have gathered and seeing the final passage of these wrongdoings, moving forward with hope into the future. I conclude by commending this bill into its final passage to be made law. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022 data-id=\u002280e0173beeec45d9b7867ff5d780d55f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002280e0173beeec45d9b7867ff5d780d55f\u0022\u003EHon PEENI HENARE (Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector):\u003C/span\u003E E Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, ka noho tonu au ki Te Reo M\u0101ori m\u014D te roanga o taku k\u014Drero i te r\u0101 nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ETuku mauriora ki te wheiao, ki te ao m\u0101rama. tihewa mauriora!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EE haere tonu ana ng\u0101 mihi me ng\u0101 whakatau ki te hunga e noho mai nei ki runga i a m\u0101tou, otir\u0101 t\u0101tou o Te Whare nei, ng\u0101 uri o Te Wairoa, ng\u0101 uri o Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, ng\u0101 whakapapa katoa ka whakairihia mai nei ki runga i ng\u0101 p\u0101t\u016B o t\u0113nei Whare. He aha ai? Kia k\u012Bhai ai t\u0113nei Whare e wareware; kia m\u014Dhio m\u0101rika ai t\u0113nei Whare ki ng\u0101 whakapapa, ki ng\u0101 kanohi e noho mai nei ki runga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa whakairihia ake r\u0101 i ng\u0101 whakapapa, i ng\u0101 h\u012Btori, i ng\u0101 mamaetanga i kawea nei e Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, e ng\u0101 iwi o Te Wairoa ki roto i t\u0113nei Whare i te r\u0101 nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira ka k\u012B atu ahau ki a koutou, e \u014Dku tini whanaunga\u2014haere mai e te whakapapa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa k\u012B atu ahau ki \u014Dku whanaunga haere mai e ng\u0101 roimata, haere mai e waikamo, haere mai, ka horomi, ka waikinohia nei i te hunga ka noho mai ki roto ki t\u0113nei Whare. Ko ng\u0101 roimata o Te Wairoa kua tau mai ki roto i Te Whare i te r\u0101 nei, ka p\u014Dkaitia nuitia i te mata o te whenua, mai i t\u014D r\u0101tou w\u0101 k\u0101inga tae noa mai ki Te Whare P\u0101remata i te r\u0101 nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa k\u012B atu ahau ki ng\u0101 uri o Te Wairoa, haere mai e ng\u0101 taringa haere mai e ng\u0101 kanohi\u2014he aha ai? Kia kite atu, kia whakapono. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKo ng\u0101 mahi i oti i a r\u0101tou ki roto i ng\u0101 30 tau kua pahure ake nei, kua tutukihia ki roto i te p\u0101nuitanga whakamutunga o t\u0113nei pire i roto i Te Whare i te r\u0101 nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa k\u012B atu ahau ki ng\u0101 uri o Te Wairoa, haere mai e Moemoe\u0101, haere mai e Wawata. Haere mai ki roto i t\u0113nei Whare. Ko t\u0113nei k\u014Drero, te kiko kei roto i t\u0113nei pire, he t\u016B\u0101papa m\u014D Moemoe\u0101, m\u014D Wawata ki roto i ng\u0101 tau kei mua i a t\u0101tou. N\u014D reira ka k\u012B atu ahau ki te hunga kua tae mai i te r\u0101 nei\u2014haere mai Moemoe\u0101, haere mai Wawata. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa k\u012B atu ahau ki ng\u0101 hunga n\u014D Te Wairoa, haere mai e Tai T\u0101ngata, haere mai e Tai Tuar\u0101. Haere mai e Tai Tuar\u0101 o Te Mema P\u0101remata o Te Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti. Ka k\u012B atu ahau ki t\u014Dku tuahine, ko t\u014D manawa ki t\u014Dku manawa, ko t\u014D whakapapa ki t\u014Dku whakapapa, ahakoa ng\u0101 raweke, ahakoa ng\u0101 mahi m\u0101minga a te hunga p\u0101p\u0101ho, a \u0113tahi atu kei roto i te ao t\u014Drangap\u016B, ka k\u012B atu ahau ki a ia, turuturu o whitiwhiti, whakamaua kia tina, haumi e, hui e, t\u0101iki e!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa k\u014Drero mai te nuinga o ng\u0101 kaik\u014Drero o Te Whare nei, i te \u0101huatanga, me te kiko o t\u0113nei pire. Kua rongo m\u0101tou, otir\u0101 t\u0101tou, i te rahi o te p\u016Btea ka whakamauria ki runga i te p\u0101kau i Te Tai R\u0101whiti o Te Ika a M\u0101ui, ar\u0101 ko Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, me \u014Dna peka katoa, me t\u014Dna rahi, me t\u014Dna nui. Kua k\u012B atu e hia nei ng\u0101 miriona taara ka whakapauria ki runga i t\u0113nei take ker\u0113me e p\u0101 ana ki ng\u0101 take e whakap\u0101 nei ki Te Tiriti o Waitangi. Ko te w\u0101hanga ki Te Wairoa, \u0101e e tika ana ko te kotahi rau miriona taara. Kua k\u014Drero mai Te Whare, e hoa, he torutoru noa iho, he puna iti nei i whakahokia atu ki ng\u0101 mana nui o Te Wairoa kua tae mai i te r\u0101 nei. Engari koin\u0101 te take ka karanga atu ahau ki a Moemoe\u0101, ki a Wawata kia whakatupu ake ai i te rahi o te p\u016Btea, kia h\u0101ngai p\u016B ki ng\u0101 moemoe\u0101 a Kui m\u0101, a Koro m\u0101 kua ngaro atu ki te p\u014D. N\u014D reira e tika ana ka mihi atu ahau ki te \u0101huatanga o ng\u0101 tat\u016Bnga ki roto i t\u0113nei pire.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKua k\u014Drero \u0113tahi m\u014D te poraka whenua e k\u012Bia nei ko Hereheretau. \u0100e. Kotahi rau tau ki muri ki roto i te marama o Noema, i mutu ai Te Pakanga Tuatahi o Te Ao. Kotahi rau tau ka pahure ake nei, ka tae mai ki t\u0113nei t\u0101ima, e hoa, kore kau he aha whakahokia atu ki ng\u0101 kaum\u0101tua me ng\u0101 kuia o Whakak\u012B i tukuna atu t\u0113nei whenua hei tohu maumahara, hei tohu ora m\u014D te hunga i haere atu ki Te Pakanga Tuatahi o Te Ao k\u0101tahi ka hoki mai ki te kore noa iho. Kei runga tonu i te t\u0113pu t\u0113r\u0101 \u0101wangawanga a te iwi, a ng\u0101 hap\u016B, m\u014D te w\u0101hi a Whakak\u012B. H\u0101unga r\u0101 ko t\u0113r\u0101 ko te hiahia me te manako ahakoa kua whakak\u014Dhatungia ki roto i t\u0113nei pire, haere tonu te k\u014Drero o te kaupapa o Hereheretau ki roto i ng\u0101 tau kei mua i a t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKo ng\u0101 poraka whenua i whakahokia atu me te mana o ng\u0101 ingoa ka tapaia ki runga o aua poraka whenua, ka mihi atu ahau ki t\u0113r\u0101 t\u016B \u0101huatanga, kei roto i t\u0113nei pire. E tika ana ka whakamanahia i ng\u0101 ingoa t\u016Bpuna, a r\u0101tou m\u0101, ng\u0101 ingoa e m\u014Dhiotia nei e te hunga e noho mai nei ki runga o \u0101 r\u0101tou ingoa e p\u0101 ana ki ng\u0101 whenua kei a r\u0101tou, n\u014D reira e mihi atu ana ahau ki t\u0113r\u0101 atu \u0101huatanga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI a au e noho mai nei e ng\u0101 uri o Te Wairoa i rongo atu ahau i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero a t\u014Dku matua nei a Hon Wiri Hakihana\u2014hei t\u0101na, he aha nei n\u0101 t\u0101 koutou mahi ki te whakararata mai i ng\u0101 hunga kei roto i ng\u0101 taone m\u014D t\u014D koutou kaupapa me ng\u0101 moemoe\u0101 a Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu i roto i ng\u0101 tau kei mua i a t\u0101tou? Heoi an\u014D ko t\u0101ku e whakautu nei ki a ia, e ki ng\u0101 hunga o Te Wairoa ka noho mai ki roto i t\u014Dku rohe p\u014Dti a T\u0101maki Makaurau\u2014t\u0113n\u0101, tirohia ki t\u014D whakapapa, ka kite atu i h\u012Bkoi t\u014D koutou tupuna a Tamatea i te mata o te whenua ki te hoki atu ki te k\u0101inga, koia r\u0101 t\u0101ku ki a r\u0101tou\u2014hoki atu ki te k\u0101inga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u0101 runga i te tono o t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 M\u0101ngai o T\u0101maki Makaurau ki te hunga o Te Wairoa ka noho mai ki roto i taku rohe p\u014Dti, ka k\u012B atu ahau, \u0101e, whakahokia atu w\u0101 koutou tamariki mokopuna ki te k\u0101inga; ahakoa kei te taone e noho ana, e m\u014Dhio ana ahau he mokopuna, he tamaiti, ng\u0101 tamariki e t\u016B ana ki runga i te marae, tau ana; ng\u0101 tamariki mokopuna ka tupu mai ki roto i ng\u0101 otaota o te k\u0101inga, tau ana; ko ng\u0101 tamariki mokopuna e tupu mai nei ki raro i te maru, ki runga an\u014D hoki i ng\u0101 rekereke o ng\u0101 matua, o ng\u0101 t\u016Bpuna, tau ana. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira e \u014Dku rangatira, heoi an\u014D ko te w\u0101hanga whakamutunga o taku k\u014Drero i te r\u0101 nei e k\u012B atu nei ki \u0101 koutou e ng\u0101 uri o Te Wairoa, m\u0101 Te Atua koutou e manaaki, e tiaki ki roto i ng\u0101 tau kei mua i \u0101 koutou. Ko te manako ko ng\u0101 moemoe\u0101 o r\u0101tou m\u0101 ka kore e mutu ki konei. E m\u014Dhio ana au i ng\u0101 t\u016B \u0101huatanga me ng\u0101 raruraru ka p\u0101 ki a Ng\u0101 Puhi ki roto i ng\u0101 tau, kei roto tonu i ng\u0101 mahi o t\u0113nei r\u0101. M\u014D ng\u0101 wawata o t\u014Dku tupuna a T\u0101 Hemi, ehara m\u014D te whakatutukitanga o ng\u0101 nawe me ng\u0101 ker\u0113me e p\u0101 ana ki Te Tiriti o Waitangi, k\u0101hore; engari m\u014D t\u0113tahi \u0101hua tupu pai mai wana mokopuna maha, kia t\u016B rangatira, kia t\u016B toa ki roto i t\u0113nei ao hurihuri. Koia r\u0101 te wero nui kei mua i \u0101 koutou e \u014Dku rangatira, e \u014Dku tini whanaunga\u2014kia whakaritea mai te huarahi, kia pai ai te tupu, kia pai ai te m\u0101huri o te t\u014Dtara i roto i a koutou \u0101 taihoa ake nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKoutou, e ng\u0101 mana nui, e \u014Dku tini whanaunga, ka tautoko m\u0101tou o t\u0113nei taha o Te Whare, te pire kei mua i te aroaro. Ki a koe, otir\u0101 ki a t\u0101tou i te r\u0101 nei, me te hiahia ka tere atu ki mua i te aroaro o Te K\u0101wana Tianara, n\u0101 reira whakamanahia ka mutu ka kite an\u014D t\u0101tou i a t\u0101tou i runga i Te Marae o Pipitea n\u0101 reira t\u0101tou h\u0101kari ai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EE \u014Dku rangatira, rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E[Madam Assistant Speaker, I will remain in the M\u0101ori language for the duration of my speech today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ELet there be life in the world of light, in the world of enlightenment, behold there is life!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EMay I continue the ritual of paying respect and offering words of welcome to these good people who have descended upon us and this House, to the progeny of Te Wairoa, to the issue of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, to their genealogical connections which now grace the walls of this House. Why? So that this House will never forget; so that the genealogy and the faces sitting here will remain etched in the consciousness of this House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThe genealogies, the history, and the hurt which are all borne by Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, by the people of Te Wairoa, will be laid bare in this House today. I therefore say to you, my many brethren, I welcome your genealogy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI further say to my kinsmen, I welcome your tears, I welcome your grief; welcome so that it may wash over the people who sit in this House. The tears of Te Wairoa which have finally arrived at this House have had a long and arduous journey from their homeland to Parliament today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI say to the descendants of Te Wairoa, I welcome your ears, I welcome your eyes. Why? So they may see, they may believe. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThe work that has been accomplished these 30 years past will reach some conclusion in the third reading of this bill in the House today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI also say to the descendants of Te Wairoa, I welcome vision, I welcome aspiration. Welcome into this House. These speeches, the contents of this bill, form the foundation for vision and aspiration to thrive in the years ahead. Therefore, I say to those who have come here today, welcome vision, welcome aspiration.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI further say to the people of Te Wairoa, I welcome your humanity, I welcome your backbone. I welcome you as the backbone of the member for Te Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti. I have said to my sister, from your heart to my heart; from your genealogy to my genealogy, whatever the machinations, whatever the mischief generated by the media or others in the political sphere, I told her: brace yourself, gather your strength which is formidable; take heart!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EMost of the speakers in this House have talked about the outcomes of this bill. We have all heard about the size of the financial redress that will accrue to that part of the East Coast of the North Island\u2014that is to say, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu and all its subsidiaries. It has already been stated how many millions of dollars will be allocated to settle the Treaty of Waitangi claims. As far as Te Wairoa is concerned, yes, we are talking a hundred million dollars. The House has said, \u201CGoodness, what is being offered is only peanuts to the good people of Te Wairoa who have come here today.\u201D But that is the reason that I have especially called upon vision and aspiration, that they might be applied to grow the size of the financial settlement in order to achieve all that was dreamt of by those ancestors who are no longer with us. It is therefore only right that I should acknowledge the matters that have been settled in this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ESome have talked about the Hereheretau land block. Yes. The First World War ended a hundred years ago in the month of November. One hundred years have passed and until this time there has been no return whatsoever to the elders of Whakak\u012B who provided this land as a memorial and a means of support for those who went to World War I but then came home to nothing. Whakak\u012B is still a bone of contention for the tribal entities and is still on the table. Other than that, it is an earnest wish that notwithstanding the agreements cemented in this bill, talks around the subject of Hereheretau will continue in the coming years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI am delighted at the return of blocks of land and the authority over the names of those land blocks which is in this bill. It is only right that the ancestral names should be recognised, names that were known by the people who used and lived on the land, and I acknowledge that provision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ELadies and gentlemen of Te Wairoa, as I sat here I listened to what my senior colleague the Hon Willie Jackson had to say\u2014he asks what you will do to engage your people who live in an urban setting. What are the dreams of Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu for the future of these people? My answer to him is what I would say to people from Te Wairoa who live in my electorate of T\u0101maki Makaurau\u2014look at your family history and you will see that your ancestor Tamatea explored the length and breadth of this land and then went home. That is what I would say to them\u2014return home. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EIf this member for T\u0101maki Makaurau was asked by people from Te Wairoa living in my electorate, I would say yes, take your children and your grandchildren home; even though they live in the city, I know that the grandchild, the child, the children who experience their marae first-hand are grounded and confident; children and grandchildren who run amongst the grasses of their homeland are grounded and confident; children and grandchildren who grow up under the protection of, and at the feet of their elders, are grounded and confident. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ETherefore, esteemed chiefs, as I conclude my speech today I beseech the blessings and protection of God upon you the descendants of Te Wairoa for the years to come. The hopes and dreams of those who have passed on do not end here. I am well aware of the trials and tribulations that have beset Ng\u0101puhi over the years and which continue. My grandfather Sir James impressed upon us that the aspiration was not about settling grievances that arose from Treaty of Waitangi breaches. No; it was more about improving the world of his many grandchildren that they may stand proudly and confidently in this modern world. That is the real challenge before you my chiefs, my relations\u2014to prepare the way for strong growth, that the young leaders among you may emerge in due course. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EIllustrious guests, to my many brethren, we on this side of the House support the bill before us. With the hope of an expeditious delivery to the Governor-General for formal ratification, I trust we will see you all at Pipitea Marae to eat together in celebration.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EAssembled chiefs, I offer greetings, greetings, greetings one and all.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022 data-id=\u002263e2a9e56e0441bca3c7d84e88db4ba1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002263e2a9e56e0441bca3c7d84e88db4ba1\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON (National\u2014Taup\u014D):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101; t\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Whare. T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koe te Whare. Rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou i runga i te kaupapa o te r\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 iwi rangatira o te rohe o Te Wairoa. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E[Greetings, Madam Assistant Speaker; greetings to the House. Esteemed elders and others, I greet you in light of today\u2019s purpose. Greetings to the proud tribes of the region of Te Wairoa. Greetings, greetings, once more greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EI\u2019m honoured to rise and speak in this House on the third reading of your bill. This is our House, and in the third reading of Treaty settlement legislation we create a new future. That\u2019s why it\u2019s always a real honour and a privilege for me to rise and speak in a third reading. Although I haven\u2019t walked the journey of your Treaty settlement, as the MP for Taup\u014D I\u2019ve been enormously privileged to walk the journey from beginning to end with Ng\u0101ti Raukawa. I\u2019ve also been involved with parts of the Treaty settlements with other iwi in the Taup\u014D rohe: Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, Ng\u0101ti Koroki Kahukura, and Ng\u0101ti Hau\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EI want to just reflect because I can imagine that your journey has been similar. Too often I think of the debates we have in this House and at times the words that we speak are incredibly damaging, and they\u2019re damaging for so many reasons. So I think the third reading speech is a critically important time not to speak politics but instead to focus on the future. If I think back to every step of the way in the Ng\u0101ti Raukawa settlement, the memories of what I witnessed will be etched for ever in my heart.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003EI have one wish in this House, and that is every New Zealander has the opportunity to experience the incredible generosity and the incredible forgiveness from iwi like yours from those past wrongs. While other speakers in this House have put your stories in the Hansard and on the record, I want to reiterate my clear hope that every New Zealander has at least some understanding of the trauma, of just the unimaginable\u2014I can\u2019t even find a word that actually describes it. When I listened to the stories from Ng\u0101ti Raukawa, as I say, they were burnt in my memory and etched in my heart. As a New Zealander, a fourth generation New Zealander, I was ashamed to say I had no idea of the extent of what occurred in those days. As a proud New Zealander standing in this House of Parliament, I think it is a duty and a responsibility of every New Zealander to know and attempt to understand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003ESo I stand in this House to celebrate with you, to thank you for walking the journey with the Crown and for your commitment, and to celebrate this point in our collective history and, more importantly, our collective future. I want to honour the ancestors passed, but, more importantly, I want to honour the children that are not yet born from your Rohe o Te Wairoa. Kia ora koutou, and thank you for the opportunity to share in this very special day with you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022 data-id=\u0022bccb7b478ba14071bd490806e01b7fbd\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bccb7b478ba14071bd490806e01b7fbd\u0022\u003EHon MEKA WHAITIRI (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti):\u003C/span\u003E Madam Assistant Speaker, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. E ng\u0101 mema o Te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. It is a privilege to be able to speak on the Iwi and Hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa Claims Settlement Bill\u2014a very historic bill that is before us in this House. Madam Assistant Speaker, with your indulgence, I\u2019d like to greet the iwi of Ng\u0101ti Kahungungu in an appropriate manner. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003ERau rangatira m\u0101 e kui m\u0101 e koro m\u0101, anei ng\u0101 mihi ki a koutou katoa kua tae mai i runga i te kaupapa, te kaupapa whakanui, te kaupapa whakahirahira, te kaupapa tika. N\u014D reira, e ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 reo, \u014Dku rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou nau mai, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, nau mai, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E[Distinguished chiefs, elders, allow me to pay my respects to you all who have come here on this mission, a mission of celebration, an important mission, a just mission. Therefore, to those from diverse backgrounds and cultures, my distinguished chiefs, greetings and welcome, greetings and welcome, greetings to one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EGetting to the House has been a journey for some today, but nothing compares to the journey of ng\u0101 hap\u016B me ng\u0101 iwi o Te Rohe o Te Wairoa. I want to firstly acknowledge the kind words that colleagues have shared in this House, but may I make it very clear that there is only one k\u014Dpapa here, and this is the third and final reading of the Iwi and Hap\u016B of Te Rohe o Te Wairoa Claims Settlement Bill. I am so privileged and honoured, as the current member for Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti, to join in with the people that have joined us here in acknowledging the passage of this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EIt is pleasing to be the final speaker on this bill. Madam Assistant Speaker, may I make some acknowledgments? First and foremost, can I acknowledge the t\u012Bpuna who suffered at the hands of the Crown, who lost lives, who lost land, and who, without trial, were imprisoned in Te Wharekauri. There was a pattern happening on the East Coast of the North Island. Before the Treaty was signed, Wairoa M\u0101ori, T\u016Branga M\u0101ori lived an autonomous life. They lived under their tikanga, under their whakapapa, and managed their lands as they saw fit. In Te Wairoa, despite the Musket Wars in 1820, we had whalers that settled in places like Te M\u0101hia in 1830.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EThe Treaty was signed\u2014as we all know\u2014on 6 February 1840. It was never ever taken to the people of Te Wairoa. There was no debate. There was no consultation for the people of Te Wairoa. In the Treaty, there are three articles. The first article\u2014depending on which version you read: the P\u0101keh\u0101 version talked about sovereignty; the M\u0101ori one talked about k\u0101wanatanga, governance. The second part of the article promised M\u0101ori the undisturbed possession of their lands and their waterways. The third part of the article gave the rights and protection of M\u0101ori as British subjects.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EIn speaking to this bill, the Crown breached article 2 and it breached article 3. At no time did they talk to the M\u0101ori of Te Wairoa around whether they wanted to enter into this partnership. Let me be very, very clear: the Treaty was not taken to Te Wairoa. After 1840, when the Treaty was signed, you will see a pattern: in the 1860s, as the wars went around the country\u2014it started in Taranaki, went to Waikato\u2014Wairoa M\u0101ori, like T\u016Branga M\u0101ori, wanted to just remain peaceful and carry on their business.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EBut it was the war at \u0100muruh\u0101keke k\u0101inga in September 1865\u2014a month after the Waerenga a Hika siege, just up the road in T\u016Branga in November 1865. Those wars then enabled the Crown to move in to Te Wairoa, as they did in T\u016Branga, and confiscate and put magistrates in these areas to ensure that the land that was obtained was obtained under duress. These generous people, who, above us, have paid enormously in the land that was taken, in the loss of life, and, like I mentioned earlier, in those that were sent to Wharekauri without trial.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge those that filed the claims in the 1980s and who are no longer here. I want to acknowledge the negotiators who have been mentioned here. I want to acknowledge Johnny Whaanga. I want to acknowledge T\u0101mati Olsen and all the negotiators that have worked really hard on bringing the deed of settlement to fruition. I want to acknowledge the Ministers: the Hon Chris Finlayson; I want to acknowledge the Hon Andrew Little. I want to also acknowledge Office of Treaty Settlements officials, and, of course, I want to acknowledge the work of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, who did a wonderful job in seeing and having submissions on this particular bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EBut, in the time I\u2019ve got left, as we heard in the p\u014D\u2019hiri in the hall across from the debating chambers, this is about the future. This is about T\u0101tau T\u0101tau o Te Wairoa Trust. I want to acknowledge the initial trustees that are gathered here today for your stewardship since the deed of settlement was signed until the final reading of this bill. I want to particularly acknowledge the four ohu\u2014the pillars that these people have worked so tirelessly around: the work plan, the engagement plan, and then the settlement matters, and, of course, the operational services.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EThis settlement bill and the people that it is being read for have prepared themselves well to receive all the assets that are coming to them. I want to respond to my colleague the Hon Willie Jackson, when he asked the question, \u201CWhere shall we be investing in?\u201D\u2014where shall we be investing? Can I respond to my colleague that the responsibility of health, housing, and education rests with the Crown. It is the role and the responsibility of the Crown to address not just the social but the cultural and the economic and the environmental needs of the people of Te Wairoa. So I love my colleague here, but I think he\u2019s off cue when he thinks that the $100 million should be invested in that. I have every faith that the leadership of ng\u0101 hap\u016B me ng\u0101 iwi o Te Rohe o Te Wairoa will make the wise decision. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003ECan I acknowledge our rangatahi, our tamariki who have joined us here today, because if we\u2019re talking about the future, they are our leaders for tomorrow. I want to acknowledge those that are here with us in witnessing an event that is going to open up so many opportunities for themselves, for the wider Wairoa district, and for Aotearoa New Zealand. I am very proud to stand here in support of the people of ng\u0101 hap\u016B me ng\u0101 iwi o Te Rohe o Te Wairoa. I wish them well, I wish them speedy returns to their homes, and I look forward to working as we continue this journey on the East Coast\u2014this East Coast, the jewel of Aotearoa New Zealand, the place that people need to come to to see. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EThis settlement is going to aid and abet the opportunities for the people of Te Wairoa. I can\u2019t wait for that to happen. I can\u2019t wait to work alongside them. This coalition Government is ready\u2014Mr Jones is ready to come into Wairoa. He made commitments about opening the railway line from Napier to Wairoa. It is indeed an honour\u2014it is indeed an honour to stand in this House, to commend this bill at the third and final reading of ng\u0101 hap\u016B me ng\u0101 iwi o Te Rohe o Te Wairoa settlement bill. I commend it to the House. Kia ora t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EWaiata\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022bd0707f520cf454fb42ae9e8c31f5848\u0022\u003ETariff (PACER Plus) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a25c3a4d03864767ae91607a84233d61\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u0022dfabee396f5947e79afa471d3093a6c3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022dfabee396f5947e79afa471d3093a6c3\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Minister for Trade and Export Growth):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Tariff (PACER Plus) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EMadam Assistant Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to speak in support of this motion. Passage of this amendment to the tariff is one of the last steps New Zealand needs to take to be in a position to ratify PACER-Plus. [Interruption] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228254a759e5e343a988077002bc38dac8\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams)\u003C/span\u003E: Order! I apologise to the Minister. Could I ask members of the gallery, please when they\u2019re leaving\u2014could you leave quietly please? We\u2019re continuing with the business of the House. Thank you. Thank you for your indulgence.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d41b07e6b4524b6aa18fdb504ee97d36\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: I understand the emotions running high and the celebrations after the long journey that has led to this point, so I\u2019m not at all perturbed by that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EPassage of this amendment to the tariff is one of the last steps that New Zealand needs to take to be in a position to ratify PACER-Plus. It makes the minor amendments needed to enable ratification. Most of the obligations in PACER-Plus can already be met\u2014or are already met\u2014by New Zealand\u2019s existing domestic, legal, and policy regime, and there are only a small number of legislative and regulatory amendments required to the Tariff Act to align New Zealand\u2019s domestic legal regime with the rights and obligations created under PACER-Plus.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EIn the very week and on the very day that New Zealand and other Pacific countries conclude the annual Pacific Islands Forum leaders meeting in Nauru, it\u2019s heartening that the majority of this House has shown its support for PACER-Plus, and through that it\u2019s support for regional economic integration in our neighbourhood, the Pacific, because, as we have all heard before\u2014and there is no doubt that we see it in our own communities and constituencies\u2014New Zealand is intrinsically part of the Pacific through the fact of geography and through our shared DNA.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EThe passage of this bill and the consequential early ratification by New Zealand of the agreement reflect the importance that we in New Zealand place on this agreement and the positive impact our development assistance is having and will have on our Pacific neighbours. New Zealand, together with Australia, is providing significant development assistance to Pacific signatories of PACER-Plus to support their efforts also to be able to ratify PACER-Plus in the coming months.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EPacific Island countries who attended the first meeting of PACER-Plus signatories recently in Apia, Samoa, reaffirmed their commitment to agreement and to ratification. Like New Zealand and Australia, other Pacific signatories are keen to see PACER-Plus enter into force. This reflects their national interest in being part of PACER-Plus. It reflects the benefits countries have already received and will continue to receive as part of the implementation phase after entry into force. It also illustrates that Pacific signatories are sovereign countries, and they have made their own considered decision to join PACER-Plus.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EEight signatories need to ratify the agreement before it enters into force, some 60 days after that milestone. As part of the preparations for entry into force, work is already under way to establish a PACER-Plus implementation unit, which is expected to be hosted by a Pacific country, not New Zealand. So the sooner PACER-Plus enters into force, the sooner PACER-Plus can be implemented in a way that realises its potential as a catalyst for sustainable economic growth in the Pacific. There remain 11 signatories at this point. Discussions are continuing with three compact States\u2014the Federated States of Micronesia, Palau, and Republic of Marshall Islands\u2014on when they intend to sign, in order to have the interests of our northern Pacific neighbours reflected in the implementation phase.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EDialogue is also continuing with the larger economies of Fiji and Papua New Guinea, as they are with new forum members New Caledonia and French Polynesia. New Zealand would like to see all Pacific Islands Forum members join PACER-Plus, but, again, acknowledge that is a decision for each country to make. In New Zealand, we celebrate that the majority of the forum membership has already decided that PACER-Plus is in their national interests and will build the economic resilience and self-reliance that they seek. The Pacific Islands Forum leaders meeting is providing further opportunities to discuss PACER-Plus at the higher levels.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EPACER-Plus is part of New Zealand\u2019s wider interest to ensure settled security arrangements in the Pacific. We know that a stable and prosperous Pacific is a secure Pacific. With the global trading environment becoming ever more challenging for small countries like ours, and ever more challenging for even smaller economies in the Pacific, we believe that PACER-Plus is a welcome addition to the region\u2019s tool box to bolster all of our collective interests.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EThrough the vehicle of PACER-Plus, New Zealand is already having conversations with the Pacific about what can be done to boost Pacific exports to New Zealand. This is of key importance to the signatories, who are keen to utilise the opportunities provided by PACER-Plus to go beyond simply exporting more of the limited range of commodities currently exported. This is an opportunity to create higher value - added products that are cheaper to transport and less likely to need the biosecurity screening that is sometimes an impediment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EConcluding PACER-Plus last year was a long time in the making. Can I acknowledge the last two Ministers of Trade, at least, who put so much work into that. The Hon Todd McClay and his predecessor did more to bring this to fruition than I or my Government have, and I acknowledge that. Support for this bill today means that New Zealand and the Pacific are one important step further on the road to the entry into force of this milestone trade and development agreement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003EFinally, I note once again that there are provisions in this agreement that New Zealand does not normally agree to, in respect of our free-trade agreements which have a development focus, recognise the special status of the small developing economies, especially in the Pacific region, and enable them to have protection and industry development initiatives that we would normally see as anti-competitive in an international trade context. But we agree because, in the case of these economies, we want to help them develop so as to maximise their potential, the prosperity of the Pacific, and, through that, the security and peace of our region.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022 data-id=\u00222ca2539cf128406c8c03b07d6d2a64b4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222ca2539cf128406c8c03b07d6d2a64b4\u0022\u003EHon TODD McCLAY (National\u2014Rotorua):\u003C/span\u003E I take great pleasure in rising to speak in the final reading of this bill, which will allow, as far as New Zealand\u2019s concerned, one step closer to the entry into force of the PACER-Plus trade and development agreement. I say \u201Ctrade and development agreement\u201D because when we were negotiating in the final days with our Pacific friends and neighbours and equals, we stressed to the strongest degree possible that this agreement was about development as much if not more than it was about trade. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EAs New Zealand trades with the rest of the world or we go and negotiate with countries around the world, we often find ourselves at a great disadvantage because we\u2019re far away and we\u2019re very, very small. Bigger countries often can ask more of us than we get to offer them, and therefore we, with our negotiators, must work very, very hard to keep those agreements high-quality and balanced for the benefit of New Zealand exporters. Indeed, when I was trade Minister\u2014and I would believe, hope, and assume, with the new trade Minister\u2014when we go out on the world stage, we go overseas to get the best deal possible for New Zealanders and New Zealand exporters, without consideration for, necessarily, what happens in the countries we\u2019re negotiating with. It\u2019s for their negotiators to make the case for a better deal for their people and their exporters. But when it comes to the PACER-Plus trade and development agreement, we actually set aside our desire to get a great deal or good deal for just New Zealand exporters, and we take a development approach, which means we look at what also is good for our Pacific Island friends. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EIf we think that we have challenges being small and remote to the rest of the world, as far as the Pacific is concerned, those challenges for them are so much greater to their relative size than we experience. That\u2019s why this agreement is very much as much about development as it is trade. In fact, we should call it the PACER-Plus development and trade agreement because wherever we came to an obstacle in the negotiation that was difficult, rather than what normally happens in a negotiation, where one party says no, we took the time to understand that challenge that our Pacific friends had and to find a solution for it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EWith a few exceptions, we were able to find solutions. There were some where we just couldn\u2019t get there because it actually would\u2019ve harmed New Zealand exporters in as far as our relationship with others in the world were concerned, or, more concerningly, would\u2019ve meant that as the Pacific entered into agreements with other countries in the world, their exporters could have a better deal than we had, and we believed that wasn\u2019t reasonable or fair. But in all cases, we worked very hard to understand and find a solution.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EThat\u2019s why I\u2019m so pleased that in Tonga last year, a cross-party group from this Parliament travelled with me to be able to sign this agreement. The Hon Annette King was there, Fletcher Tabuteau, and a firm former member of Parliament from the Green Party, to show our solidarity with the Pacific and to show our intention, as a Parliament, to work with them and to support them to have a better future. That\u2019s why I\u2019m very pleased that the majority of this House will support this. I am sorry that the Green Party won\u2019t. I think that in a third reading of a trade and development bill, we shouldn\u2019t make it political, but I would ask them to go and look more deeply at, actually, not those few in the Pacific that say, \u201CThis isn\u2019t a perfect deal.\u201D, but the many others who have spent a lot of time understanding it and believe they are doing what\u2019s right for their countries. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s not for the New Zealand or Australian Governments or our parliaments to tell those small Pacific Island nations what is best for them; it\u2019s for them to make the decisions themselves. Every single country willingly decided to sign, and I took the principled position that if some weren\u2019t ready, we wouldn\u2019t do what often happens in negotiations, which is that you force them, but we left the door open to them. For those that had worked hard and saw that there was opportunity and wanted to make the most of that, and to build their economies and invest in their people and share in the significant resource that New Zealand and Australia are providing them to get ready to be able to trade more with us and to trade more with the rest of the world, we welcomed them and they put pen to paper. But for some countries, they weren\u2019t ready\u2014the Compact of Free Association countries in the north\u2014and that was merely because they wanted to fully understand what that might mean with another important relationship they have with the US. I think they will work through that and can sign today, but it is for them to decide, not for us to put pressure on them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EAs far as Fiji and Papua New Guinea (PNG) are concerned, we, with Australia, must make every effort we can to help them understand and bring them to the table when they are ready. I think there is good progress there with PNG. I am less hopeful with Fiji, because they said they were pulling out, and I think there are political reasons for that. I would make a plea to their Government to actually be as understanding as they can, because we moved further in this agreement than we have ever done before and we will ever be able to. All we really were asking of Fiji was a clause in the agreement that said if they do a future agreement on better terms in some areas with another country in the world\u2014China\u2014then that, too, would be offered to New Zealand exporters, but until that date they didn\u2019t need to open up their markets as much as some would suggest, and, actually, they could keep the protections that they asked for in place until then. Unfortunately, the Fijian Government wasn\u2019t willing to do that, and, therefore, we would\u2019ve put New Zealanders\u2014who, in this case, are committing considerable resource and aid money to support these countries, and we are opening our markets up and helping them trade here much more\u2014at a disadvantage with other countries who might not sign a trade and development agreement; they might just sign a trade agreement only.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EThere are two components I want to mention here that I think show the degree and extent to which we went to to understand and help the Pacific. There was a lot of talk about labour mobility, the desire for Pacific Islanders to have open access to come and live and work in the New Zealand market. We couldn\u2019t do that, for many reasons, including the precedent it would set, but, actually, as we have seen a drain of bright, intelligent young people with skills from New Zealand to other parts of the world, so too Pacific Island countries see a drain of some of their best people towards our economy. It doesn\u2019t help them grow when some of the best exports they have actually are their people. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EBut what we found was a solution to this, when we understood it better: young Pacific Islanders can come here and can train, they can get experience and earn money in areas of fisheries and construction, and then take those skills back to help grow their own economies. I know that the fisheries are taking a little bit more time than we would want. I hope we can find a solution and a way forward on that. We should do the same for tourism for them: bring people from the Pacific Islands here and allow them to learn and to train and gain experience and earn a bit of money and take those skills home. That was a solution, a commitment we made to them, that would benefit them more than just exporting people who would send remittances back.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EThe final thing I want to say is to our very good friends in the European Union. Many years ago, before I came to this Parliament, I worked for the Cook Islands and Niue as their ambassador as they and the other Pacific Island nations negotiated a trade and development agreement with the European Union. We failed to deliver that because it was more about trade and it was less about development, and the understanding was wrong. I say to the European Union, which have almost done something with the Pacific, that they are missing an opportunity to help build one of the most beautiful areas of the world that deserves our support and our protection. They can take the PACER-Plus agreement. It is gold standard. They don\u2019t need to change anything but swap out Australia and New Zealand\u2019s names and put their name in it, and they should sign it. China should do the same, and the US should do the same as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0f78f60-c2fd-46f4-8138-72f39692fc20\u0022\u003EIf we want to support these countries, we should be more understanding. We should think more about development than trade. There is a way through. I commend this agreement and this legislation to the House. I\u2019m very pleased we will be one of the first countries to ratify it. The European Union and China and America can step up and show leadership, as New Zealand is today in this Parliament, and do the same thing for the Pacific. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022 data-id=\u0022b47deb7a901b4d9691af8680330edb6e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b47deb7a901b4d9691af8680330edb6e\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Is someone taking a call? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002260513fa6dd8d45908d31fab6f96dc725\u0022\u003ESimon O\u2019Connor\u003C/span\u003E: Madam Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002229e7a4692ad942e6a414755c58675e93\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I call Simon O\u2019Connor.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022 data-id=\u0022283ba38b62514941adda1334347475b0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022283ba38b62514941adda1334347475b0\u0022\u003ESIMON O\u2019CONNOR (National\u2014T\u0101maki):\u003C/span\u003E Sorry, I was anticipating more wild enthusiasm to come from the Labour Party, who has finally kicked in behind free-trade agreements now, in Government, which is a tremendous, tremendous thing. So I\u2019m very pleased, as the chair of the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee, to speak in support of this Tariff (PACER Plus) Amendment Bill. I might start with the basics and develop from there. I will, though, be speaking, in a sense, with two hats on\u2014both, I suppose, my political hat, as a National MP, and as the chair. Look, PACER stands for the Pacific Agreement on Closer Economic Relations, but, importantly, we heard from the member who just sat down, Todd McClay, that this agreement is fairly unique in so far as it is also about development. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI might just say, to acknowledge the Minister, who has taken this through, for the work that he has done, and to acknowledge Todd McClay, who is also in the House, for the work that he did leading the majority of this work. I think this free-trade agreement is a good example of where cross-party cooperation works best, and I\u2019m particularly relieved to see that that bipartisan\u2014at least Labour-National\u2014approach has returned to free trade. It\u2019s how we as New Zealand are going to continue to grow and become wealthy, and it\u2019s also, I believe, how we\u2019re going to continue that, I suppose, multilateral approach towards peace, security, and stability across the world, because it\u2019s actually through trade that we end up having conversations and dialogue. I can think, just in recent months\u2014with the chairmanship hat on\u2014of the number of groups that come in that you sit down and have meetings with, often around trade, that turn into much wider, wider discussions. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI will touch briefly on the disappointment that one party in the House is not supporting this. Obviously, it\u2019s their prerogative\u2014we are a democracy after all\u2014though I am disappointed. As I say, this is an agreement where currently 11 countries are signed up, and for the interests, perhaps, of the House, that obviously includes New Zealand, Australia, Kiribati, Nauru\u2014which is obviously very topical at the moment\u2014Niue, Samoa, the Solomons, Tonga, Tuvalu, and, of course, Vanuatu. Three other countries at this point in time have not agreed to sign up: Papua New Guinea, the Federated States of Micronesia, and Fiji. Like Todd McClay, I would certainly encourage\u2014as far one country can to another\u2014them to consider signing up. I\u2019m optimistic that we may find agreement with\u2014or rather that Papua New Guinea may find its way forward. The Federated States\u2014I suppose the nature of being a federation adds complexity. Fiji\u2014having lived there for a while\u2014is a wonderful country and set of islands, but there\u2019s a political complexity that occurs there, probably more internally than externally, but it\u2019s having an effect here. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003ELook, the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee well considered this treaty and then the bill to make this come into effect. As I\u2019ve noted before, and it was actually topical today, the committee\u2019s also been looking at the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). What we\u2019re doing here today is bringing about the small but significant piece of domestic legislation to make the larger treaty take effect within New Zealand. Treaties are the prerogative of the executive. Ministers and their teams\u2014their officials\u2014negotiate said treaty; they present it to the House; we go through it, have a good look over it, make sure we listen, hear, and report back on what the public say; and then, once we\u2019re though that part of the process, rightly we put a bill before the Parliament. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EThe second thing I\u2019d say is acknowledging actually the members of the select committee and those officials who worked on it. Why I want to do that\u2014if I could start with the officials\u2014is they brought great expertise. I\u2019d like, once again, to put on the record my thanks to them, particularly those within the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade for their expertise and professionalism. But also what was evident was their commitment not only to the Realm of New Zealand but also to the good of their neighbours in the Pacific Islands. But can I thank members of the committee, too. We were very conscious that we wanted to get this bill through the Parliament relatively quickly. When I say it was an expedited process, we didn\u2019t leave any stones unturned. We heard all that we needed to hear from all those who wished to be heard, but the committee was keen to make sure that no other obstacles were put in the way, and the fact that there was the opportunity therefore in this sitting block for the bill to pass\u2014most likely, without presuming the final result\u2014is a positive thing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI\u2019d say that New Zealand is often very keen on, in a sense, trading statements. In other words, we want to be one of the first parties to sign, to send a very strong signal about our enthusiasm to those that we\u2019re trading with. That\u2019s obviously something in mind around the TPP. I know that New Zealand is keen to be an early signatory in that, and it\u2019s no different\u2014in fact, it may be even more so\u2014when we are dealing with PACER-Plus; that New Zealand, probably along with Australia, are the two major players, and want to show their commitment by having this bill done early. Of course, the treaty has been ratified\u2014that\u2019s already been done\u2014but actually the signing of this legislation helps us progress forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003ELook, really importantly, this is more than simply about free trade and the removal of customs and duties and other non-tariff barriers; it\u2019s also about a redirection of New Zealand and Australian aid\u2014I think about $55 million into the Pacific to help our Pacific friends and neighbours develop not just their economies but the systems in the background, in order to allow that economy to work efficiently, particularly in the trade space. So a very simple example is working with the likes of say, Vanuatu, the Solomons, or the Cook Islands to help them with their customs brokering systems so that they benefit from a more efficient system. That makes a lot of sense to me, and the great thing is it makes a lot of sense to them as well, because they\u2019re happily signing up to this agreement. Over time, I think we will see it\u2014obviously that initial relationship where we are helping them\u2014becoming far more organic. In other words, as their economies grow, become stronger, and develop, they\u2019ll be able to trade more with us, which is absolutely fantastic. We\u2019ll be pleased about that, but similarly, we\u2019ll be able to trade more with them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003ESo I think it\u2019s probably important to say\u2014because I think it\u2019s true\u2014this is not a purely altruistic treaty or bill. I suppose no trade agreement ever is out of pure altruism, but there is an altruistic element to this: that New Zealand and Australia are keen to focus their trade, to focus their aid, to help our neighbours develop, and that\u2019s a really positive thing for the region.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EOne of the other elements\u2014look, it\u2019s obviously like anything and is a fairly comprehensive agreement\u2014is there\u2019s a lot of work around labour exchange. New Zealand obviously depends on skilled workers coming in at set times of the year. One just thinks of the wine industry\u2014for example, we get a large number of people, actually from Vanuatu, who come over. It\u2019s a great opportunity to practise one\u2019s French, or in my case to practise French and become quite embarrassed. But it\u2019s an opportunity to continue those positive relationships, and the PACER-Plus agreement allows an easier movement of the nationals from across these 11 countries that are coming on board to flit through New Zealand. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EAs I said earlier, I\u2019m a little disappointed that the Greens are not supporting this. As always, I reiterate it\u2019s their prerogative to do so. They are concerned, according to their minority view, that it may undermine efforts to promote Pacific regionalism and that it\u2019s going to create problems like aid for trade and burdens for States. I don\u2019t agree with that. I think the opposite is true, actually: by New Zealand and Australia strongly committing through its trade and aid to our Pacific neighbours, we are affirming that we want to be part of the region. But, importantly, we want to take a regional role. Not all countries are, in a sense, the same or completely equal. We are a larger economy, we have a larger population, and, I would argue, we have a larger moral duty to work, help, and trade with those nations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EI think we\u2019ve seen not so much a reset of Pacific aid\u2014the amount of money that New Zealand puts into the Pacific is substantial\u2014it\u2019s been, certainly, a reset of nomenclature: a reset in name; a branding exercise. New Zealand\u2019s existing aid to the Pacific is large. I think that\u2019s been well noted, particularly as other countries try to expand their influence into the Pacific. I think it\u2019s particularly good that New Zealand continues to stand up along with Australia and other allies to support those in the Pacific there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s an excellent agreement. Again, my thanks go to the Ministers, including, of course, Todd McClay, who worked particularly hard to get this agreement to where it is, and to Minister Parker, who has brought it through to the end, and to all those on the committee and all the officials\u2014in particular, those who negotiated this treaty. We\u2019re almost at the end. I look forward to it being finally conclude and commend it to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022 data-id=\u002277e1b966b8ae4a7084df2fb9fee2e34c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002277e1b966b8ae4a7084df2fb9fee2e34c\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR (Minister of State for Trade and Export Growth):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker. On the odd occasion, the O\u2019Connors on this side of the House agree; on the rare occasion, O\u2019Connors on both sides of the House agree, and, following on from Simon O\u2019Connor, I have to say that I agree almost entirely with everything he said. I\u2019d like to acknowledge Todd McClay and the previous Government for getting PACER-Plus to a position of signing and, I guess, for doing the work\u2014the Pacific reset and committing to build stronger relationships across the Pacific. So we\u2019re passing a piece of legislation here that brings this into effect.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003EI have to say that in the signing of the agreement, alongside that was the labour mobility arrangement, which is probably just as important for many people in the Pacific and in New Zealand, and certainly in the primary sectors with the Recognised Seasonal Employer arrangements. It\u2019s a scheme set up by the previous Labour Government, continued on by National, and acknowledged once again as being a core component of Pacific development. I have to say that these are not just our neighbours but, in fact, in some cases\u2014of course, in Rarotonga\u2014part of New Zealand, part of the realm.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003EPassing this piece of legislation that allows freer trade and better relationships, in fact, offers an opportunity for us to provide better support in an area that is of more interest internationally. I have to say, the Pacific was a quiet little backwater for many, many years, connected to New Zealand and Australia. Now it\u2019s a part of an international focus, actually, for a number of geopolitical reasons, and so it\u2019s even more important that we build relationships with all the Pacific nations. Trading with them is a good place to start. Allowing access to New Zealand for people who want work, people whose skills we require, is another very, very good way of developing that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003ESo I\u2019m not going to speak for long, other than to say I applaud the efforts of my colleague David Parker as trade Minister\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002270b3ff3591eb4e958b724d5d7d6118d5\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: And his predecessors from National.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002247d45bd456c6416ea046b24697334c57\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014and Todd McClay\u2014I\u2019ve acknowledged him, and he just came in. Todd\u2019s done a great deal of work, and I think that, in fact, across this House, on almost all issues related to the Pacific, we agree. There\u2019s no politics here. I think we have a passion and a commitment to support our Pacific neighbours.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003EI acknowledge and support the passage of this legislation. It\u2019s almost seen as bilateral, but it\u2019s a multilateral agreement that, in fact, gives dignity to Pacific neighbours, allows them to trade with our country, and provides opportunities for them to build their economies, and, indeed, it\u2019s a wonderful piece of legislation. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022 data-id=\u0022dbd7c7da4b70431eaf6264f4587bd629\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022dbd7c7da4b70431eaf6264f4587bd629\u0022\u003EMARK PATTERSON (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E It\u2019s a pleasure to rise on behalf of New Zealand First and endorse and support this Tariff (Pacer Plus) Amendment Bill, essentially, of course, enabling legislation the technical details to allow the groundwork for the adoption of this trade deal\u2014this Pacific trade deal. Of course, in doing so, we are embracing\u2014it embodies the very principles of the Pacific reset that this Government has embarked upon under foreign Minister Peters. I also acknowledge defence Minister Mark here, as well, who has been pretty active in pushing New Zealand\u2019s geopolitical interests in this space.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EThis is a mutually beneficial deal, and, of course, as we\u2019ve heard, there\u2019re 11 nations that are represented so far within this pending agreement. We have these three nations that are outstanding so far, and we do hope that Papua New Guinea, Fiji, and the Federated States of Micronesia will see the merit in joining later, because there is genuine interest, I think, on our behalf and from the Australians and the other members of this deal to make this an all-encompassing, all-embracing trade deal. It lowers the barriers to trade, and there is a focus\u2014as has been said\u2014on development.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EOne of the issues, of course, that\u2019s very topical at the moment in New Zealand is biosecurity, and I do note the emphasis on biosecurity within this bill\u2014the $7.7 million over two years that New Zealand is putting in to help support the development of customs services in the Pacific and customs training. There\u2019re things also like helping to expand the trade under that scheme through online portals, helping to make the products from Pacific Island nations more accessible here in New Zealand. There are efforts to lift the domestic productivity of Pacific Island nations to offset some of the difficulties they may have. They\u2019re also opening their borders to our products, and so we are recognising that that is a legitimate concern for them, and we\u2019re helping them work their way through that process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EThere\u2019s also the $25.5 million over five years for a development fund. So, as we can see, this is a deal where New Zealand is looking to help develop. It\u2019s not just a straight trade deal. It\u2019s not just a straight monetary exchange, and I think we\u2019ve found ourselves on the other foot, actually. In most of these deals that we\u2019re negotiating, we are the smaller economy within the deal, so we kind of know what it looks like from their end, I guess, and we\u2019re looking to bring that experience into helping make this a really top-notch trade deal for the Pacific. It does advance economic union, and it will grow prosperity for all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EI note in the submitters\u2019 comments in the select committee that there was some concern about promoting gender equality\u2014for example, making sure that women benefited from this deal as much as men. This is sort the of theme of this deal. It\u2019s not just an economic exchange that we are looking to develop with our smaller Pacific neighbours. This is a generous agreement, and New Zealand has offered these concessionary terms over and above what we would normally do in the normal course of a trade deal. It does go with the theme that we like to see ourselves as good international citizens, and certainly in this deal, we are doing that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EIt is the catalyst, I guess, for wider international involvement by New Zealand. Just recently, we have had $10 million going into Pacific broadcasting, including seeking to establish a Pacific Island TV channel. The Australians\u2014the Australian Broadcasting Corporation\u2014have pulled out of the Pacific, and we are elevating our interests in this area.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EI noted, actually, in a recent Q\u002BA interview that the US Ambassador Scott Brown was lauding New Zealand and this Pacific reset and the leadership we are showing. He pointed out that in doing so, there\u2019s a leveraging effect. We have dragged the Australians back into the Pacific. We have got the focus of the UK back into the Pacific, and there are those three embassies that they are looking at opening in the Pacific, which is great news. He did acknowledge our growing leadership role here, and we need to have that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EThere are wider geopolitical forces at play and the emergence of some big superpower interests in the Pacific strategically\u2014Minister Mark mentioned China specifically in his defence report, and this Government is being open about those things. We do know that the Chinese have looked to leverage their influence in the Pacific and they\u2019re spending a lot of money up there. So we just can\u2019t afford to sit back and expect those old loyalties to play out. We actually have to be proactive in this space, and this bill and this legislation allows us to do that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EOur trade with the wider Pacific is actually $1.3 billion per annum in the latest figures I have, which go back to 2013. We import $100 million worth of direct imports, but Australia and New Zealand are also 30 percent of the exports for the Pacific nations, so we are an incredibly important source economically for them. There\u2019s $41 million of remittances that go back from the Recognised Seasonal Employer scheme that Minister Damien O\u2019Connor just referenced before, and what a valuable scheme that is to our primary industries. Of course, we are also the largest source of tourists going into the Pacific for holidays, so we are hugely interconnected.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EHowever, we\u2019re not only neighbours; there is a huge contribution that Pasifika people make to New Zealand\u2014300,000 people of Pacific Island origin make New Zealand home, and what contributors they are. I believe that in this Parliament there are seven MPs that give Pacific heritage as their primary background, and that probably understates it. I know that it wouldn\u2019t be widely known, but my colleague Darroch Ball actually has Tongan and Kiribati heritage, so I\u2019m sure that influence is far greater than that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EOf course, I don\u2019t want to be too clich\u00E9d about this, but the incredible contribution to New Zealand sport that the Pasifika community play\u2014you know, some of the absolute greats. Actually, they are not only New Zealand greats but international greats: the Jonah Lomus; the Adams siblings, Dame Valerie and Steven; the great Michael Jones\u2014you know, I could go on with that list. So the Pacific community make an incredible contribution to our society.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EI would like to conclude by saying that this is a modern free-trade agreement and it does focus on social issues. The female influence, and looking to grow female equality\u2014that sort of thing is part of this bill, and I think this is a modern trade deal. That\u2019s why New Zealand First are behind it. This is not about big corporations playing off against each other. This improves business. It improves our geopolitical position. It is the right thing to do morally, given our history in this area and the huge influence that the Pasifika community have made here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000436\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003ESo, without further ado, I\u2019d like to commend this bill to the House. I\u2019d like to congratulate the Ministers that have been involved in bringing this forward\u2014the former Minister, the Hon Todd McClay, and the current Minister, the Hon David Parker\u2014for their shepherding of this bill through, which will be hugely positive for New Zealand and for our region. So New Zealand First has absolute pleasure in commending this bill to the House. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u00227578e0e841cc49f5a329c7784f94b8dc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000437\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227578e0e841cc49f5a329c7784f94b8dc\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (National):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. It is quite something to be able to follow a New Zealand First speaker in favour of a trade agreement. It\u2019s wonderful that that party is seeing the value of trade and of having the ability to gather greater prosperity for all countries through the benefit of trade.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000438\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ESo the National Party, of course, stands to support this trade bill, which was, of course, started off by the Hon Todd McClay as Minister of Trade back in 2017. The purpose of it, as we know, is to legislate for a trade agreement signed between these 11 Pacific Island countries, including Australia and New Zealand, in the hope of lowering barriers, not just in the tariff level but also by reducing bureaucratic instruments and rules covering goods and services that get in the way of the free flow of trade. And it\u2019s important for New Zealand in the broader Trans-Pacific Partnership right across the world, but it\u2019s also important in our local region here in the Pacific. That\u2019s why we stand fair and square behind reducing barriers to trade and doing it in an effective way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000439\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EBut, of course, our commitment on the National Party side to expanding our access to export markets and reducing barriers to trade has been part of a broader economic development strategy that we worked on consistently throughout nine years in power\u2014the Business Growth Agenda, it was. Expanding export markets was one of the steps that we took in order to deliver a more competitive and productive economy. And there were other planks to that that we focused on: increasing the flow of investment, access to natural resources, access to good quality infrastructure such as ultra-fast broadband, access for businesses to trade in skilled environments, and also access to a knowledge and innovation framework. That was our broader economic development and where our trade policy fitted into. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000440\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EOne of the criticisms that I\u2019ve been making against this administration, which has now been in power for getting close to a year, is that we haven\u2019t had much clarity at all about the broader economic development strategy that\u2019s guiding this Government. We haven\u2019t seen anything, really, at all, to replace the Business Growth Agenda\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000441\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002254724684638049618c8248a8778c40c9\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: The laundry list.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022751ba720c5f84ef9b1445efd1f52b844\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014other than flummery from the Minister who has chipped in\u2014in regard to the Provincial Growth Fund and R \u0026amp; D tax credits and the most important factor of all, which is the solution to every problem: the capital gains tax. And time will tell. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000443\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EBut we did see last week the announcement of the Government\u2019s economic development strategy, which the Prime Minister announced, and that was to take the \u201Cgrowth\u201D out of the Business Growth Agenda and call it the business transformation agenda. I suppose the point that I would make in relation to that was the absence of any great detail about how this Government is going to go about improving our productivity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000444\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EOne area where there is strong overlap on both sides of the House is agreement around the importance of trade deals and expanding our export markets through the development of rigorous trade relationships. And that\u2019s why, when people say \u201COh, politicians, why can\u2019t you all get along and work together constructively for the benefit of New Zealand?\u201D, well, this is one of the areas where, indeed, we do. And that\u2019s why we stand here\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000445\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022071f7800-2755-41b6-83df-07ebaf867ae2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224fb4f2f826454914b780cc4c520a8f4c\u0022\u003ETim van de Molen\u003C/span\u003E: Except for the Greens.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000446\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022308b2f18902b4fceb63cc4c5c932c597\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH\u003C/span\u003E: Well, aside from the Greens. But, yes, they\u2019re an interesting case. But we do that because most of us understand the importance for a small trading nation such as New Zealand, that only makes its living in a world by exporting its goods\u2014and the extent to which we can reduce barriers so that we can trade more effectively has got to be good for this country. There\u2019s been disagreements about all sorts of things over the years, and New Zealand First has waxed and waned like the horses and the hounds\u2014and the very nature of Shane Jones\u2019s oratory is all over the place, so you would expect that party to be a little bit inconsistent in its support for free trade. But it\u2019s nice today to see them in support of this particular bill. But, traditionally, both National and the Labour Party have seen the value of these trades. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000447\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ESo when we just get down to some of the details of this legislation, I should note that it includes our good friends across the Tasman but also the Cook Islands, Kiribati, Nauru, Niue, Samoa, Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu, and Vanuatu, and the door remains open for other Pacific Island countries who could join this agreement. It will enter into force once all the negotiating parties have passed the legislation. It is worth noting\u2014and it may be a surprise to some people tuning in, listening to this broadcast\u2014that New Zealand exports around $376 million of goods a year to the countries, excluding Australia, which, of course, we export many billions of dollars to on average.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000448\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThe tariffs on New Zealand exports will be reduced over extended time frames between 25 and 35 years, but on average we face tariffs of about 7 percent. So there\u2019s an opportunity for New Zealand to export more to the region but also equally very much the opportunity for those countries to continue to gain great access to the New Zealand environment. It\u2019s not so much, because we have very low tariffs in this country in very few areas\u2014so that\u2019s not the real issue. It\u2019s about getting consistency around the trading rules in relation to goods, services, and investment that will make the real difference here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000449\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ESo, overall, I have no doubt that this is a small but not at all insignificant piece in the jigsaw of what we hope will be a successful South Pacific region, because it is fair to say that this is a region that isn\u2019t really going as well as it could economically. Many of these countries who are listed here haven\u2019t been able to provide a strong economy so far for their citizens. From a New Zealand perspective, given our close relationships not just economically but socially and culturally, we all want to see places like Tonga and Samoa and Niue prosper and do well and to provide opportunities for them and their families and their people. There is no magic to it. It\u2019s about generating goods that the rest of the world wants to buy at a good price so that they can make an honest living.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EAs small countries\u2014as New Zealanders experience, but they experience even more\u2014with that lack of scale, it is very easy for the rest of the world. It is hard to compete internationally, and any barriers, whether it be tariffs or just rules and regulations that make it difficult for trading to go ahead, compound the difficulty of having such a small base with which to start. So exporters coming out of Tonga or Vanuatu, for example\u2014and I think of the magnificent coffee that comes out of Vanuatu, which I have enjoyed on many occasions, for example\u2014their lack of scale in the domestic market means that if they want to get any size, they have to export very quickly and face all the difficulties that go with exporting.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ESo, in conclusion, I suppose the point I would make is it\u2019s wonderful to see support across the House, with the exception of the Greens\u2014is it?\u2014who are deeply ambivalent to the nature of growth. I suppose, just looking at our two friends from that party across the House, I would encourage them to reconsider their position and to give serious thought to whether or not they are genuine in their desire for this region to get ahead economically and to create opportunities for the next generation. I suppose the question is if you\u2019re not in favour of this, are you ever in favour of any sort of trade liberalisation, and, clearly, they\u2019re not. But, putting the Greens to one side\u2014and maybe there is time for reflection on their part, but putting them to one side\u2014I welcome the New Zealand First entrance into the fold in favour of trade, where they are a little bit higgledy-piggledy in their thinking, but between the major parties of this Parliament I think this is a good day and a real opportunity for us\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u002297e8b10db96144bb9e24322a799a5e1b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002297e8b10db96144bb9e24322a799a5e1b\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member\u2019s time has expired.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022abf27403-4392-47c9-9af0-6773753e95cb\u0022 data-id=\u00221bf2e883c65d4803a418f3b0ebdacc44\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022abf27403-4392-47c9-9af0-6773753e95cb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221bf2e883c65d4803a418f3b0ebdacc44\u0022\u003EGOLRIZ GHAHRAMAN (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. I rise in response to my esteemed former colleague from the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee the Hon Mark Mitchell. I rise not to change our position but to maintain the Green Party\u2019s principled position in opposition to this trade deal. I begin by noting that NGOs all over the Pacific\u2014and, in particular, the Pacific Network on Globalisation, who commissioned an independent impact analysis of this trade deal\u2014have called this the Pacific\u2019s Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement (TPPA).\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f3101668fc6f4c7d9f31ba37d2532401\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Not all NGOs.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000455\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022abf27403-4392-47c9-9af0-6773753e95cb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022409f1caea00a4e8cbf93c6f5460716de\u0022\u003EGOLRIZ GHAHRAMAN\u003C/span\u003E: So they are standing opposed\u2014not all NGOs, that is true, but at least in terms of the Pacific Network on Globalisation and their impact assessment that they commissioned independently, and it was put together by Australian, New Zealand, and Pacific academics who are experts in trade.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000456\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022abf27403-4392-47c9-9af0-6773753e95cb\u0022\u003EThey raised the same kinds of concerns that New Zealanders raised over and over again about the TPPA, which were the lack of transparency in its negotiations, the lack of transparency in the text, the lack of safeguards for human rights, for environmental protections, the erosion of democracy, and the threat of deregulation, privatisation\u2014all of the same types of dangers that came with what we now know is an archaic economic model that led to every global economic disaster, but particularly the last one, which we can all remember. We, hopefully, would have thought we would have learnt some of those lessons: trade should, in fact, be for the good of the people and our environment, rather than to benefit very few elite corporations at the very top. We know that that money is not going to trickle down. We know that their interests are not in protecting the greater good, and, in fact, we know that this trade agreement\u2014and we can see in its text\u2014does aim to deregulate, and it does leave our Pacific neighbours very much vulnerable to things like privatisation of their core State services, which is something that the Greens do maintain a principled opposition to, as did a vast number of New Zealanders when the TPPA was brought up on to our shores, and we know what happened there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022abf27403-4392-47c9-9af0-6773753e95cb\u0022\u003ESo this is a trade deal that\u2019s been 16 years in the making. It was signed in 2017, and the Green Party opposed it then. This bill is aiming to bring that into effect and, in particular, to impose the preferential tariffs. The small benefit that we get in our markets, while we take away that incredibly important source of income to Governments who are already, in most cases, struggling to provide healthcare and education and other services to their people\u2014while we get that small benefit and while we get an opening up of their markets and whatever benefit comes from deregulating them, they get really no new access to ours at all. In fact, our protectionist mechanisms\u2014Australia\u2019s and New Zealand\u2019s, being the big powerful trading partners here\u2014are maintained. Our fruit and vegetable markets aren\u2019t being opened up in the same way that we are opening up their markets.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022abf27403-4392-47c9-9af0-6773753e95cb\u0022\u003ESo we get that, and the benefit is 20 percent of our aid budget moving into trade. Already allocated money that was going to expertly delivered humanitarian and development aid programmes for promoting gender equity, programmes promoting environmental sustainability, rule of law programmes\u2014that money was already there, going to expertly deliver those types of benefits. Now that\u2019s going to be moving into trade\u2014with some lip service paid to those values, of course\u2014but trade doesn\u2019t deliver those things, not like actual development programmes do, or not like actual humanitarian aid would.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022abf27403-4392-47c9-9af0-6773753e95cb\u0022\u003EThat\u2019s what we heard from the submitters that came, actually, specifically to talk about women\u2019s issues. They said that most women in the Pacific are not in a position to be trading internationally. They\u2019re not big international traders, and so the money being taken away from gender equity programmes, taken out of the local market, was actually going to hurt women\u2019s empowerment in the Pacific. That was what the submission said. So they were not at all confident that a mention of how trade is supposed to now have some benefits for women\u2019s empowerment was actually going to uphold that, given that this is an international trade agreement and that only elite urban traders are going to benefit. That\u2019s not the majority of the Pacific, and it\u2019s certainly not women.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022abf27403-4392-47c9-9af0-6773753e95cb\u0022\u003EThis trade-for-aid model is spreading in the Pacific. The UK will be imposing it. We\u2019ve already criticised China for being there; they engage in it. The EU is coming in to do the same. Why are we contributing? As a good neighbour, as a leader in this region, why are we contributing to this old-world economic order creeping into the Pacific\u2014the most unique and beautiful island nations that are also some of the most vulnerable in the world? That encapsulates the Green Party\u2019s opposition to this deal.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022abf27403-4392-47c9-9af0-6773753e95cb\u0022\u003EWe need progressive trade. We\u2019ve already had that promise from the Government, and we know that we are going to deliver that in future for New Zealanders. We hope that nothing like the damaging, the undemocratic trade that will come to us through the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement will ever be incorporated into New Zealand law and our trade model again, but why are we imposing it on the Pacific, where we have the power to actually change that paradigm?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000462\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022abf27403-4392-47c9-9af0-6773753e95cb\u0022\u003EThe Green Party doesn\u2019t support this trade deal. We never have, and we don\u2019t support the bill. We support progress. We support trade. New Zealand is itself a small island nation, in many ways, and we need trade, but we need it to serve the good of our people, of the environment, and we need it most of all to not undermine democracy. It is in the good of the people and our environment to regulate trade. Unfettered growth on a finite planet is not sustainable, and for that reason I don\u2019t commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022 data-id=\u00226b8a6a40d0674dd5919068a008ab175c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000463\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226b8a6a40d0674dd5919068a008ab175c\u0022\u003EHon TIM MACINDOE (National\u2014Hamilton West):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, sir, and I thank Ms Ghahraman for outlining the Greens\u2019 position. I\u2019ll come back to it in a little bit more detail shortly, but I\u2019ll just make the point that when she claims that the Green Party stands for progressive trade, she hasn\u2019t yet\u2014and nor have any of her colleagues\u2014ever been able to find a trade agreement that seems to fall within that description, and so they do seem to have a very consistent position in opposing trade deals which are clearly in our best interests, and, in this case, I would still maintain are in the best interest of the signatories to it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000464\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EAs we are in the third reading of this Tariff (PACER-Plus) Amendment Bill, I think it is appropriate to acknowledge the current and former trade Ministers who have brought it to this point, the Hon David Parker and, in particular, the Hon Todd McClay, who did much of the work in New Zealand\u2019s interests leading up to June of last year when the agreement was reached. I think it is also appropriate in this third reading to acknowledge our Pacific partners from the other 10 countries. They are Australia, the Cook Islands, Kiribati, Nauru, Niue, Samoa, the Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu, and Vanuatu, who are all, with New Zealand, signatories to the PACER-Plus agreement. As the Minister for Trade and Export Growth noted earlier this afternoon when he moved the third reading of this bill\u2014and I completely agree with him\u2014in time he very much hopes that the other Pacific nations that are not currently in a position to sign up will find it in their advantage to do so, and I\u2019m sure that they will be warmly welcomed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000465\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EI\u2019d also like to acknowledge, warmly, all the trade envoys and officials who have worked so hard to bring this agreement into being. This is the culmination for them of almost a decade of hard work and negotiation, and so I think it\u2019s valid to put on the record that the negotiation of PACER-Plus was led for New Zealand by an inter-agency team from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade. This team included officials from the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment and also from the New Zealand Customs Service. As this time last year I had the privilege of being the Minister of Customs, I\u2019m delighted, in particular, to acknowledge their contribution. I have the highest regard for the service of our customs officials. They make a huge contribution in a way that isn\u2019t so often seen. They are well known for the work they do in protecting our borders, but they also make a huge contribution to our economy, and so I thank them and note that other relevant agencies were also regularly consulted during the negotiations. It was very much a team effort, and this is their day, so let us acknowledge all the trade envoys and officials who have been so intimately involved.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EThe Hon Todd McClay noted when he spoke earlier in this debate that New Zealand often finds ourselves at a disadvantage in trade negotiations, both because we\u2019re a small nation and because of our geographical isolation. We\u2019re a long way from many of the markets with whom we wish to conclude trade deals. But in this particular instance, as Mr McClay noted, those challenges are even greater for the very small Pacific Island nations that are part of this agreement, and for once New Zealand is actually a very large party in the scheme of things. So I want to repeat Mr McClay\u2019s observation that this should rightly be seen as the \u201CPACER-Plus Trade and Development agreement\u201D, because the development aspect of it is a huge part of the commitment that we\u2019ve entered into.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EAs New Zealanders, we all feel very strong ties to the Pacific. So many people living here in this country are of Pacific origin. I understand approximately 296,000\u2014nearly 300,000\u2014people currently in New Zealand are of Pacific origin. So our commitment to them is one that we take very seriously and we enter into the PACER-Plus agreement honourably and generously, and I think it\u2019s important to put that on record. Our Pacific neighbours are family. I truly believe that PACER-Plus will be in their best interests and will enhance their development and prosperity. I\u2019m sure that all members in this House, even the Green members who are opposed to it, would agree with me in hoping that that will be so.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000468\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003ELet me just go back for a moment to the Green viewpoint. As a member of the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee, I\u2019ve naturally had the opportunity to study their minority view and I\u2019ll just quote from it. In expressing their opposition, they make the point that in their view \u201Cthe PACER Plus agreement undermines efforts to promote Pacific regionalism, reprioritises New Zealand\u2019s existing aid budget into problematic \u2018aid for trade initiatives\u2019, and burdens Pacific states with unfair export rules.\u201D That, obviously, was part of what Ms Ghahraman was trying to identify today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000469\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003ESo let us just look for a moment, in order to balance the record there, at what the intended benefits of the PACER-Plus agreement actually are. If I could just read from a list here, because I think it\u2019s important that these are clearly understood, the intended benefits of PACER-Plus include: \u201Ca more predictable trading environment;\u201D\u2014and being able to predict with a degree of certainty is important\u2014\u201Cmore consistent and transparent rules throughout our region on sanitary and phytosanitary measures, technical barriers to trade, and customs procedures; more liberal and product-specific rules of origin; increased investment in the region, in particular by New Zealand and Australian investors into Pacific Island countries;\u201D\u2014and our ability to invest in those nations is of huge importance to some of those very small island States\u2014\u201Cgreater certainty around tariffs for exporters; more opportunities for trade-related development assistance for Pacific Island countries;\u201D and \u201Ca more mobile labour force in the region.\u201D So, as I say, those are some of the intended main benefits.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000470\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EAnd if I could just find where I was going with my notes, we might carry on. As I say, those are the overall objectives, but since this is the third reading of the Tariff (PACER Plus) Amendment Bill, I think it\u2019s also important to dig down into some of the detail. So I\u2019d like to just quote from this much weightier tome\u2014the national interest analysis of the PACER Plus Agreement\u2014and look at some of its key features. Again, if I could just write this into the record, particularly for the benefit for those who are listening, according to the national interest analysis, which was concluded in June 2017, \u201CThe Agreement will be the first reciprocal trade agreement governing New Zealand\u2019s \u2026 NZD$654 million [worth] of goods and services exports to the Parties [to the agreement]\u201D. It will \u201Cassist New Zealand in [the Pacific] region where\u201D\u2014and this is a key point\u2014\u201Cthe majority of countries are not [World Trade Organization] members, and therefore are not [subject] to any WTO limits on the maximum tariff rate that they can apply.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000471\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003ESo, on average, New Zealand exported around $376 million worth of goods per year to PACER-Plus parties\u2014excluding Australia, of course\u2014between the years 2013 and 2015. Tariffs on New Zealand exports will be eliminated under this agreement over extended time frames of 25 to 35 years. But \u201CAt present New Zealand exports face an average ad valorem tariff of 6.8 percent and attract duties estimated at NZD$24 million annually \u2026\u201D. Well, \u201Cad valorem\u201D literally means \u201Caccording to value\u201D, so it\u2019s a tariff imposed on the monetary value of the item.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000472\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003ESo the national interest analysis states that \u201CPACER Plus will have negligible \u2026 revenue implications for New Zealand [importers]\u201D. According to the briefing that we on the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee received earlier this year from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, PACER-Plus differs from other trade agreements in that it has specific and significant development components. I\u2019m running out of time, but these include\u2014well, actually, as I say, because I\u2019m running out of time, I might leave it to other speakers to do this. The detail there is really important. This is an agreement\u2014and I\u2019ll conclude with this point\u2014that has been negotiated very carefully, looking at the best interests of the Pacific Island nations. It\u2019s part of our commitment to them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000473\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EAs I mentioned at the outset, it\u2019s very much my hope that those nations that haven\u2019t yet indicated that they wish to be a partner to it will in time feel that they can see the benefits as this comes into effect with others, that they can see those benefits, and that they\u2019ll realise that they would be better in than out. I firmly believe that that will happen. As I say, I think that this is an important day for the Pacific, a good day for those Pacific nations that are a part of it, and I\u2019m very proud of the fact that New Zealand has made its significant commitment here. I firmly hope that my comments will be borne out in time. I believe that they will be. I thank everybody who\u2019s been associated in concluding this important work, and as today we conclude this third reading, which is another important step in the journey, I wish all the parties all the very best. I hope that we will see that in years to come, it leads to everybody\u2019s improved prosperity and development.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022 data-id=\u0022a07252ed5b5841138c82913306272b6a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000474\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a07252ed5b5841138c82913306272b6a\u0022\u003EJAMIE STRANGE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Mr Assistant Speaker, thank you for the opportunity to take a brief but passionate call on this bill. Hopefully, some of the members opposite will wake up and focus. Global protectionism is rising, and this is a concern. There\u2019s been a 30 percent increase in tariffs over the past two years, which is the sharpest increase since 1995. Now, we have talked a lot about challenges taking place around the US, but also the EU and other developed countries are moving a little bit more towards protectionism. That\u2019s why it\u2019s so important that we take a lead as a country around open, free markets.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000475\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022\u003ENew Zealand is reliant on trade, and a number of speakers have touched on that before. It\u2019s the lifeblood of our economy and it\u2019s absolutely important that we continue to trade in a free and open way. That\u2019s why I am very passionate about this bill, the Tariff (PACER Plus) Amendment Bill. I\u2019d like to acknowledge the Ministers: Todd McClay, who\u2019s worked on this in the past, and the Hon David Parker, who has picked it up and followed it through to its completion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000476\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022\u003ENew Zealand provides leadership for the Pacific nations, and a trade agreement like this works to lift incomes right across that region, to lift the wealth of all Pacific peoples. It\u2019s about investing in our neighbours. It\u2019s about\u2014as the Beatles once said, \u201CCome Together\u201D. That\u2019s absolutely what it is. It\u2019s about coming together, and it\u2019s about\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000477\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022704b34669bce4391b54f114a29b45a45\u0022\u003EHon Tim Macindoe\u003C/span\u003E: \u201CLet It Be\u201D, Jamie.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000478\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222012b64f42284687aea5e046d7a9335c\u0022\u003EJAMIE STRANGE\u003C/span\u003E: Ha, ha! That member opposite just said, \u201CLet It Be\u201D. Well done. Look, it\u2019s about businesses. It\u2019s about businesses in the small Island nations who find it challenging to achieve the economies of scale needed to compete in an international market, and it\u2019s about us working with them, showing leadership as a country. So, I\u2019m very excited to commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022 data-id=\u0022545616324d214b8892fcc69e889e3204\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000479\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022545616324d214b8892fcc69e889e3204\u0022\u003EHon NICKY WAGNER (National):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you very much, Mr Assistant Speaker. I too take great pleasure in speaking on the Tariff (PACER Plus) Amendment Bill at its third reading. I\u2019m really pleased to see that this trade bill is finally coming to the House, because it\u2019s been a long time in the making. The original concept for this bill was part of a previous trade agreement back as early as the 1980s. In 2001, the Pacific Agreement on Closer Economic Relations was signed, and negotiations began in 2009 and were finally concluded in 2017. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000480\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003EThis bill is significant, and it\u2019s all about creating jobs and wealth right across the Pacific region. It\u2019s about making it easier for countries in the region to trade together, and it aims to make trade transactions across borders easier, and to attract investment. I, too, like the Hon Tim Macindoe, have been a Minister of Customs, and the New Zealand Customs Service was working on this bill when I was a Minister. They were deeply involved, particularly in the transactions across borders, and so it\u2019s pleasing to see their work coming to fruition.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000481\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003EThe bill is designed to lower barriers for trade and to provide greater certainty for New Zealand businesses on one hand, and on the other hand to try and help raise living standards through creating jobs, through increasing exports, and stimulating investment in Pacific Island nations. These are Pacific Island nations who want to trade to improve their quality of life and their standard of living. These are Pacific Island nations who are aspirational for their communities and who want to move beyond being mere subsistence economies. It\u2019s important to New Zealanders because, of course, the Pacific Islands are our closest neighbours and we have strong personal ties there. And, of course, it\u2019s equally as important to those Pacific people who live in the Pacific Islands. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000482\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003EI think we all, in this House, across the nation, and across the Pacific, understand the value of a prosperous and a sustainable Pacific region, and that is the underlying purpose of this bill. The agreement sets a common range of trading rules covering goods, services, and investment, and it will also support economic development and growth. It will reduce tariffs, it will reduce red tape for exporters and investors, and it really will increase the attractiveness of the region for trade.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000483\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003EBut it is of special benefit to Pacific people, because this agreement is a little bit different from a normal, standard free-trade agreement. It has specific and, actually, significant development components. The first is a $25 million fund provided by Australia and New Zealand to help build the capacity of forum islands\u2014things like their customs services, their biosecurity management\u2014and to promote their exports and investment. The second is an agreement by New Zealand to commit to spending 20 percent of the total Official Development Assistance\u2014trade for aid\u2014in the Pacific Islands for the first five years after this comes into force, and that could be up to $340 million. In addition, there is a stand-alone labour mobility arrangement. This is about helping Pacific workers access temporary work and employment in industries in New Zealand and Australia\u2014places where we have labour shortages; places where they can increase their skills, where they can be involved in New Zealand and Australia. They can get qualifications and they can take that funding back to their homes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000484\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s an important piece of legislation in terms of lowering barriers to trade, supporting New Zealand businesses, and it is also about supporting Pacific people and raising their standards of living. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022872744a3-2256-4cdd-a4cc-939836dc2b11\u0022 data-id=\u00228297916896574102b3e5eb1a364ccf13\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000485\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022872744a3-2256-4cdd-a4cc-939836dc2b11\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228297916896574102b3e5eb1a364ccf13\u0022\u003EPRIYANCA RADHAKRISHNAN (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. I rise to take a very short call on this bill. Much has already been said by members from both sides of the House about how this bill, the PACER-Plus agreement, will benefit countries across the Pacific region, including New Zealand. I just want to make two quick points.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000486\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022872744a3-2256-4cdd-a4cc-939836dc2b11\u0022\u003EOne is that members here in this House have emphasised the development aspect of this agreement, because New Zealand will only benefit from PACER-Plus if the Pacific benefits from it, and that\u2019s why we\u2019ve made a big deal about the fact that this is not just a trade agreement but it has a development focus as well. A safer, secure Pacific is beneficial to us all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000487\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022872744a3-2256-4cdd-a4cc-939836dc2b11\u0022\u003EThe second point I\u2019ll make is that PACER-Plus contributes also to this Government\u2019s Trade for All Agenda, which is actually out for consultation now. If anyone watching is interested to make their viewpoint heard, it will be open till 14 October. It is exciting because it\u2019s about making trade inclusive to women, to M\u0101ori, to small to medium sized enterprises in New Zealand, and it\u2019s about a focus on improving our environmental standards, labour standards, and gender equality through trade.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000488\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022872744a3-2256-4cdd-a4cc-939836dc2b11\u0022\u003ESo, it\u2019s with pleasure that I commend this bill to the House. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022 data-id=\u002265aa137874564f8d919ff6cfda200db6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000489\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002265aa137874564f8d919ff6cfda200db6\u0022\u003EHon MARK MITCHELL (National\u2014Rodney):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Assistant Speaker. It\u2019s a pleasure for me to take what\u2019s going to be a relatively short call, because we want to see the bill pass today. Can I acknowledge the Minister, the Hon David Parker, because I\u2019ve been having trade discussions with the Hon David Parker for the last six years, and we didn\u2019t always agree with the passage of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, but it was very pleasing to see that in coming into Government all the work that had been done by the Hon Todd McClay and, before him, the Hon Tim Groser, was carried on, and we now have a very good free-trade agreement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000490\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EI know that my colleague Paul Goldsmith made a valiant effort to try and get the Green Party, at the last minute, to reconsider their position on this. I think I agree with him: it\u2019s unlikely to happen. But the only observation I\u2019ll make in relation to free-trade agreements, because all of the countries that have signed this in the Pacific\u2014we\u2019re all small trading nations, and, actually, without good, comprehensive, well-written free-trade agreements, we wouldn\u2019t be doing very well. We\u2019re not big enough to trade amongst ourselves, so trading with the rest of the world is actually very important.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000491\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EIn the six years that I\u2019ve been involved in this Parliament, I\u2019ve not had one constituent, I\u2019ve not had one business, I\u2019ve not had one person come up to me and say, \u201CI hate these free-trade agreements that we\u2019ve got. They\u2019re really bad for us. They\u2019re not creating any opportunities.\u201D It\u2019s normally quite the opposite\u2014that we see opportunities, we see new export growth. The great thing about the PACER-Plus is that it\u2019s with our South Pacific cousins, who we are heavily invested in\u2014all of us have got a mutual investment in the success and our futures together. On that note, I just want to acknowledge the other countries that have signed up to this agreement: Australia, the Cook Islands, Kiribati, Nauru, Niue, Samoa, the Solomon Islands, Tonga, Tuvalu, and Vanuatu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000492\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003EI want to come back to the Solomon Islands. I mean, I\u2019m really pleased to see the Solomon Islands there, because I was lucky enough to go out there and be an observer for their general elections. Of course, they\u2019ve come through a difficult part of their history with the tensions, and then having the Regional Assistance Mission to the Solomon Islands (RAMSI) and the RAMSI draw-down. There\u2019s quite a bit of energy and excitement there in terms of trying to get their economy going, and it\u2019s a complicated one because they\u2019re made up of a whole lot\u2014hundreds\u2014of islands. But when I was there, there was the microeconomics going on. There were people that were just making good products, and they wanted to find markets to sell them in\u2014local markets. But now, with an agreement like PACER-Plus, I hope that we\u2019ll start to see some of those products imported and appear in our stores in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000493\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003ETrade is incredibly important, and I\u2019m very proud of the fact that\u2014there\u2019s three things, actually, that this Parliament should always work together to try to have bipartisan agreement on. These are my own personal beliefs. One is national security. We should always be working across parties to try and do the best in terms of our own national security. The other one is defence policy. We should try to have as much agreement on defence policy as we can across the House. I acknowledge the Minister of Defence in the House now. The third one is trade. Fundamentally, getting good trade agreements is critically important. I think the country has got an expectation that we as parliamentarians will come here with a view to working and delivering the best possible trade agreements that we can for our nation. That\u2019s why it\u2019s nice to be able to acknowledge not only the Hon David Parker but also the Hon Todd McClay, who have worked very hard as our respective trade Ministers with our Pacific Island partners in putting together what\u2019s a very good trade agreement in the Tariff (PACER Plus) Amendment Bill. I\u2019m very happy to recommend this bill to the House. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022de44fa7ee1eb4a258092251abd12340d\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the Tariff (PACER Plus) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 112\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 56; New Zealand Labour 46; New Zealand First 9; ACT New Zealand 1.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 8\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EGreen Party 8.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000494\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002217c62a0ae2a640df9136b838314030c1\u0022\u003ESittings of the House\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000496\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a9fdb6fd8c3944e59b71cca9ad8a5f6e\u0022\u003ESittings of the House\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022 data-id=\u0022a8f51d70d1564a99b51a35871012dc7e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000495\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a8f51d70d1564a99b51a35871012dc7e\u0022\u003EKIRITAPU ALLAN (Assistant Whip\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Given the fantastic progress that we\u2019ve made in the House this afternoon, sir, I seek leave for the House to now adjourn.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022fa7dd46ad1c7449da7ff2ae0b5e81b72\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000497\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fa7dd46ad1c7449da7ff2ae0b5e81b72\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There appears to be none.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201809069522dd63fbaa468795e3b058321b873f000498\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 5.56 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"