"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f2037f8216864537aad06e55f0f64ab9\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 13 DECEMBER 2018\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00229b390b0f66ea48b59643871988fcda36\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 13 DECEMBER 2018\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000002\u0022\u003EThe Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000004\u0022\u003EPrayers.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022fc65a31ae3e04ff9b2c449b991e8da14\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022461809bae61a49fc9f074990988add30\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u002295d72a0ee6f641f0a08926192359dfdf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002295d72a0ee6f641f0a08926192359dfdf\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E On Tuesday next week, third readings will be given to the Child Poverty Reduction Bill, the Reserve Bank of New Zealand (Monetary Policy) Amendment Bill, the Conservation (Infringement System) Bill, and the Earthquake Commission Amendment Bill. On Wednesday, the House will debate the first reading of the New Zealand M\u0101ori Arts and Craft Institute Vesting Bill. Instead of a general debate, there\u2019ll be a debate on an adjournment motion, at the conclusion of which the House will adjourn until 12 February 2019. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022784a2e40e321432ab1a80df41d1e601d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022784a2e40e321432ab1a80df41d1e601d\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (National\u2014Ilam):\u003C/span\u003E I thank the Leader of the House for that outline of next week\u2019s programme, but would ask if he could give us some indication of when there might be some legislation to give effect to the Government\u2019s announcement today with regard to the synthetic drug problem in New Zealand. The next question I would have is: how soon can we expect the Labour - New Zealand First Government, supported by the Greens, to introduce item No. 29 on the Order Paper, the Kermadec Ocean Sanctuary Bill, which we\u2019ve been waiting for more than 12 months to see passed through this House? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u002210abf4bdf3674d979ed8cc1980ffb070\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002210abf4bdf3674d979ed8cc1980ffb070\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E I believe that we\u2019re getting close to the amount of time that that bill stayed on the Order Paper under the tenure of the last Government. But in terms of the first part of the question, I believe that the legislation around synthetic cannabis will be early in the new year. So within the first couple of months of the new year, I expect that we will have something to table in the House. That\u2019s under development at the moment. I have just been reminded that I omitted something very important from the Business Statement\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002293cc5d6a4f73416485900769dc1d71ae\u0022\u003EHon Christopher Finlayson\u003C/span\u003E: Very important. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228dbda522bd274d2ab8d11fd1be611868\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014very, very important from the Business Statement\u2014which is that the Hon Christopher Finlayson will be delivering his valedictory statement to the House on Tuesday. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00220bbb9b47dac14f1ea2120e59f7d86be2\u0022\u003ESpeaker\u2019s Rulings\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a5dcebf2b25a4aa29b65d9341868b591\u0022\u003EWritten Questions\u2014Unsatisfactory Answers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u0022730a93e98f024984acb49c941c528551\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022730a93e98f024984acb49c941c528551\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Members have raised with me the unsatisfactory responses to written questions provided by a range of Ministers. Questions about meetings, reports or events within a specified month have received a reply saying that ministerial diaries will soon be publicly available. According to the Cabinet minute, ministerial diaries from the beginning of the Parliament until 31 December this year will be released on 30 April 2019. A four-month wait for an answer to a written question is not satisfactory when the time frame in the Standing Orders is six working days. When the proactive diary release system is operating, it may be that a short wait for replies to general\u2014often known as fishing\u2014questions about monthly engagements and briefings is acceptable; however, that is not the case at present. I expect all of the replies that have declined to provide information on the basis that it will be available under the Government\u2019s proactive release of diaries policy to be corrected before noon next Thursday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u00228b313de15ec5439592d2d6a1c1b16b21\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228b313de15ec5439592d2d6a1c1b16b21\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. What you\u2019ll see from the Cabinet paper and Cabinet minute that was released, as I\u2019m sure you\u2019ve read it very thoroughly, is that those diaries will be progressively made available by\u2014the date you mentioned is the latest date for them to be made available. For example, in my own case, many of those are already posted online and my office are working backwards through my diary and posting them as they are completed. Diverting people\u2019s attention away from that task to the task of answering written questions, which often deals with the same information, will actually delay the overall release of that diary information.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u0022786448f01e9f439ca21bdbb65b38014e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022786448f01e9f439ca21bdbb65b38014e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Right, I just want to make it very clear that this House does not run according to the convenience of the Minister\u2019s staff\u2014[Interruption]\u2014who interjected then?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022519bfca7d1d540438df5a5aee943896a\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Me.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eae593b4cac543a2a8006ee91ea48718\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Stand, withdraw, and apologise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229ef5923a7cf44054a3fe80cebbc26db1\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: I stand, withdraw, and apologise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fae7887f80914095b89fe78b5849b75f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I would have thought that that member of all people should have been the last to interject on that matter.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003EThe point that I am trying to make is that there could well be a compromise whereby Ministers ask the staff to turn their attention first, over the next few days, to the areas covered by those written questions, get those up on the website, and then it would be appropriate to point towards those as part of the written answers. If that can\u2019t be done, then the answers should just be done properly in the way that\u2019s been ruled by Speakers in the past.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022e6d922517204455ebd113f9fe76b143c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e6d922517204455ebd113f9fe76b143c\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Further to the point of order, Mr Speaker. In the case of many Ministers, those questions cover the entire period of time in question, because they\u2019ve lodged a series of questions for one week, and then the next week, and then the next week, and then the next week, and then the next week. So in order to be able to answer those, we do have to do the exercise of releasing all of the information. So it makes a lot more sense to do that in a systematic way rather than trying to answer those questions, some of which it will be impossible to answer by the deadline you have fixed, because the process of compiling them will take longer than the deadline that you\u2019ve fixed, because it covers the entirety of the period in question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u0022ca924cdd22f241a1a79ca1cfb49f6ace\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ca924cdd22f241a1a79ca1cfb49f6ace\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I\u2019ve had a good look at a large sample of the questions, and I\u2019m satisfied that the vast majority of them could be answered if Ministers\u2019 officers were properly organised and turned their minds to it. I am satisfied\u2014I mean, there were only, I think, about 30 of them referred to me; there could well be a lot more. But Ministers have been in office for a year now. They\u2019ve had fair warning of the requirements to have systems in place to answer questions from members of Parliament according to the Speakers\u2019 rulings and Standing Orders, and I expect them to do it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u00226c2770a6d90a46d9998053d6079947b2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226c2770a6d90a46d9998053d6079947b2\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (Minister of Forestry):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Your reference to the word \u201Cconvenience\u201D, though, is not helpful. When you\u2019re deluged with 5,400 questions, a large percentage of which are dross, it\u2019s not a matter of convenience or otherwise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u00225a95895bebc24548b086a991534f4d92\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225a95895bebc24548b086a991534f4d92\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, the member will stand, withdraw, and apologise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220051e64ff98a412c94cc5a22f7a93b8a\u0022\u003EHon Shane Jones\u003C/span\u003E: I withdraw and apologise. Speaking to the point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002237f37b62aaa7425bb181bc9048f3d1d0\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. There is not a point of order. I just want to make it clear to Mr Jones that the comment that he made was one which in one way stated the obvious. We all know, and probably no one more than myself, that it is relatively easy to generate questions, some of which result in important information and most of which resulted not much. But it is the right of members of Parliament to ask those questions. The Government is doing a good thing as far as the proactive release of briefings and diaries. I know that the member himself has indicated that he wasn\u2019t that comfortable with that approach, but we are heading towards that. It will be more efficient, but until that time, the current rules apply.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00223a1905efbe2e49dfa8640e61c4dfe846\u0022\u003EOral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00221ac974a0dca74034803fc645a5016596\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002241f564b10a0c4fc09cce4c30a963122b\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 1\u2014Finance\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022 data-id=\u0022fe036bf3c91a4182993279a5c4939629\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fe036bf3c91a4182993279a5c4939629\u0022\u003EDr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour\u2014Christchurch Central)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: What are the priorities for Budget 2019?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022 data-id=\u0022eacdd75170184a81a9cfa643b090054a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022eacdd75170184a81a9cfa643b090054a\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E Budget 2019 will be New Zealand\u2019s first well-being Budget, and is an important first step in embedding well-being at the heart of what we do as a Government. Today, in the Budget Policy Statement, I have announced five priorities for Budget 2019\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022329072cfd93b436197c28282e858dff1\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: They were announced yesterday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d0b7000443904f7cbc5edc868a0ea1ee\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014which will be delivered in May next year, and I want to thank the National Party for getting that excellent information out into the public arena. I have already announced that one of the priorities will be supporting mental health and well-being for all New Zealanders, and we are putting a special focus on those under the age of 24. The other four priorities are creating opportunities for productive businesses, regions, iwi, and others to transition to a sustainable and low-emissions economy; supporting a thriving nation in the digital age through innovation, social, and economic opportunities; lifting M\u0101ori and Pacific incomes, skills, and opportunities; and reducing child poverty and improving child well-being, with a specific focus on addressing family violence.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b05f4ee483764b3999c3683ab9c7d3d0\u0022\u003EDr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: How were the priorities selected?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b0b29703a7d74b81bfc5e4ccc087a7d8\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: The five priorities were identified through an evidence-based approach\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002250f88adb2437473dbe6d2a59a8ecd00f\u0022\u003EHon Gerry Brownlee\u003C/span\u003E: Borrowed off the previous Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222ead188b599e4fb2ba7cbadc63b73fc1\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014that\u2019s something Gerry Brownlee needs to learn about\u2014using Treasury\u2019s Living Standards Framework, evidence from sector-based experts, and the Government\u2019s science advisers, and with collaboration among public sector agencies and Ministers, we developed five priorities which signify the outcomes that will make significant improvements to the long-term intergenerational well-being of New Zealanders. This represents a new way of thinking about how we develop our priorities as a Government and how we measure our success as a country.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c89e9ad689ed4a7cba37e17e42eb8f39\u0022\u003EDr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: How will the priorities influence Budget bids?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ff22e7f163a24952857a9f3df1f8af5b\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: Instead of setting high-level, values-driven priorities halfway through the Budget process, like previous Governments have done, the five Budget 2019 priorities were sent to Ministers and agencies at the start of the process, in Treasury\u2019s Budget guidance document in September. This means that all Ministers and agencies will be collectively responsible for delivering on the priorities and that for the first time, they are being tasked with developing their own Budget bids through the lens of these priorities. Ministers are being asked to work together from the outset of the Budget process, across portfolios, on initiatives that will deliver the outcomes identified by the priorities. I am proud that the coalition Government is widening the focus of the Budget to look past traditional measures like GDP and to also look at what we can do to improve the well-being of our people, the health of our environment, and the strength of our communities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a93c0caea17b4118ac8d78f6a88d644a\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 2\u2014Prime Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022 data-id=\u0022cdf3159a2c4c467abbdfc68a1a2d4ccc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cdf3159a2c4c467abbdfc68a1a2d4ccc\u0022\u003EHon SIMON BRIDGES (Leader of the Opposition)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: What was the content of the text message she received from Richie Hardcore about Karel Sroubek?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022 data-id=\u0022e52a61e1b6b44f81b7755b0bda2924f5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e52a61e1b6b44f81b7755b0bda2924f5\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Deputy Prime Minister)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Prime Minister: On behalf of the Prime Minister, an unsolicited message from Richie Hardcore expressing his opinion on the Karel Sroubek decision was received after the decision was made, and seeing as I got about 50,000 communications in the last year, it is not in the public interest to release the contents of all of those messages.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227f680f7bc7ff4cd1a82d9f4f7a86fa16\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Will she not release the precise content?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d83717a821eb4912bd4cc23f62c06398\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: There is no requirement for the Prime Minister to release any information that came in confidentially\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e978865e-57e5-41d6-a7f6-b49daae78630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227f347afb72c8471b8e881e8cb976c4e3\u0022\u003EHon Dr Nick Smith\u003C/span\u003E: The most open, transparent Government!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ed5092125274454ab9908eb297d94c4b\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014and we don\u2019t need a dictate from Nick Smith about openness and transparency. If he was talking about a lack of integrity and dishonesty, yes, I\u2019d listen to him, but when it comes to talking about\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220ea1316dc2234073a4e0379b643c8236\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The Prime Minister will resume her seat. I want to remind the Deputy Prime Minister that he is answering for the Prime Minister. He has reflected on the integrity of a member in a way which is not in keeping with her normal kind approach. He will stand, withdraw, and apologise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c89681cd701c4094bc15b913d31df357\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Quite right, Mr Speaker. I apologise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222eeae8ec24ec4d1c9b1ca203c4746d8e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: And withdraw.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225e7b0dea62ba4514b345335b6a80704c\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: And, obviously, withdraw.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c79d797170814153aabbc7864c1cbc25\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: When she said earlier today that the text was from Richie Hardcore, stating he \u201Cknew the individual in question\u201D\u2014that is, Sroubek\u2014can she elaborate on that and why she thinks Richie Hardcore would send her such a text?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220a5494bc956a49a49c14a9642aae36dc\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, a number of texts\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224cd0146e318546ecb4a50ef968fd7cc0\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, I am going to ask the Leader of the Opposition to rephrase at least the second part of it, because it goes to the state of mind of an individual for whom she has no ministerial responsibility.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ec4e6839910b4f278e8cc56b549d1208\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: When she said earlier today the text message was from Richie Hardcore stating he \u201Cknew the individual in question\u201D\u2014that is, Sroubek\u2014can she elaborate on that?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002218070a3fc3824db1a0b784e6fb535c16\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, a simple message, which, if pronounced properly, is quite capable of being understood.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223e34a3795a344aa896fbc90d41bcea1a\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: What does that mean?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b8431d4202ce4c28b08b9d81db37fe41\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: That means he expressed an opinion in a text supporting a decision that had been made prior to when he sent the text and prior to any idea from the Prime Minister\u2019s point of view that this was going to be an expression that she would receive. I would believe that there would be many, many other people who expressed opinions on all sorts of matters. To construct that as being in some way engaged in persuading the decision maker is utter poppycock.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022006fc10c82154bca96fa0ef0b706f94c\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Can she elaborate, when her chief press secretary said yesterday that the text was \u201Ccommending the Sroubeck decision\u201D, on what was meant by that and why she thinks Richie Hardcore would commend her?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002254585e20134d41c2bc6d1a73d30ba85a\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf the Prime Minister, frequently, acting as a Prime Minister and being the Prime Minister, messages are received which are really a comment on what fellow Ministers have done, but, nevertheless, the communication goes to the Prime Minister, who is seen to be the No. 1 Minister of the land. It\u2019s not complicated. In this case, a very simple text arrived saying that this person agreed with the decision\u2014a decision, of course, which at that point in time had already been made, and well before the Prime Minister ever knew of the communication\u2014and then no reply was sent back from the Prime Minister. To impute some sort of malicious, malignant engagement, which has been the last two weeks of their line of questioning, shows you what a bunch of Philadelphia lawyers they are.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022461fc2e118f745e3a841eb60871d36d3\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Given that the Prime Minister\u2019s happy to discuss so much of the detail of the text, why doesn\u2019t she just release its precise words?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002234a23d33db8840ddb42e024e10afdd73\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, there\u2019s no way this Government is going to infringe upon the privacy rights of all manner of people that communicate, just to satisfy a political leader in such desperate trouble to get attention.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d5369c655c22472d883a6a3c8aec0a0e\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: So, to confirm, was the text a thank-you text?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227e2e6ecc9c7b4fdd8fb4fb1aa2eab50c\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: The reality is that the text wasn\u2019t a thank-you text at all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222896fc5d928540d898e61f9ed08c27fd\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Well, you just said it was.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b7d057e1986d4339b49e31ae974d7de2\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: No, no, don\u2019t say, \u201CYes, it was.\u201D No, it wasn\u2019t. On behalf of the Prime Minister, it wasn\u2019t. What it said was that, in short, it appreciated that that person perceived the decision to be the right one. But then, of course, countless emails and texts came in saying the reverse, none of which in any way had any shape of influence on the original decision, which has to be the point that that member needs to get home before any other conclusion can be arrived at.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e7ff7538796248c098f7241d9ca26b28\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Has the Deputy Prime Minister seen the precise words of the text?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002298f124d3e8e74ecfaca8d50167456168\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, I cannot possibly comment on the widespread research of the Deputy Prime Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b6d63592a10b443d813bcee38927693b\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: What date was the text received on?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226d7a2a0d73c649d7a1dacc9bde029e13\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, I don\u2019t have that information at this point in time, but I do know it was subsequent to the decision being made.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002203752fcd8dfe49f6b6adb0b6cb9fc08e\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: When can we see submissions on the Sroubek deportation file by Richie Hardcore?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022afce622c93a941b087d1c05b45b06f2f\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, not making this the final conclusion, but whenever has there been a case of such submissions being made privately to a Minister or anyone else and becoming immediately public property? We\u2019re not going to infringe upon people\u2019s human rights and rights of freedom and privacy just to satisfy a recalcitrant, malignant line of questioning based on nothing so much as a rumour.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a8c72bbef9324054ad232807b2be06ca\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: When did she notify her chief press secretary or any member of her staff of the text she had received from her friend Richie Hardcore?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c10e533056c64b6cae1aa49ebe7eb3d9\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, that question cannot be answered today\u2014not that there may not be an answer to it, but because it was not significant. Like so many communications, there was no reason to rush off and tell anybody. That\u2019s why there was no reply from the Prime Minister, because being flat out, working 18 hours a day, and getting all these tens and tens of thousands of communications, such a thing could be construed as a mere bagatelle.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223d68873361084e018f0ca593ca5c4f09\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Why did her chief press secretary go to the press gallery after 6 p.m. yesterday to advise journalists of the text received by her from her friend Richie Hardcore?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e39bf46f21b7401ab4dcd72a379b8ce0\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Because the press secretary, being the responsible person that he is, realised the perverse misinterpretations that were being put around this country and he sought to forestall those, roadblock them down with honesty, and that\u2019s what he\u2019s done.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022547d2234303e439293070c84eba50a08\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Why was it only yesterday the text was disclosed, given questions were raised about Richie Hardcore\u2019s role as far back as 7 November in this House?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e592917765454e628dc943e0a9f3b3dd\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, where this decision was concerned, Richie Hardcore had no role at all\u2014end of story.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ba918d57671341799c857977b0d31ffa\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: How can we know that, when we won\u2019t see the precise words of the text?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220bae0b2c15d54743bb5ca0d3b90d61c1\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, who\u2019s renowned for her honesty, take our word for it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228ef5821335b940e8aa4c838e2cf40899\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: In regard to her chief press secretary, was she\u2014that is, the Prime Minister\u2014hoping the press gallery would not pick up on the matter, given it was after 6 p.m. yesterday? [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002212d2169bc93f43d0b8b5e7039420757a\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, it was foreseeable that some in the press gallery, as is their wont to do, believe in fake news, and will pick up on it. But I have noticed that all questions and investigations today where that member is concerned have been challenging his conclusions to such a pathetic piece of material evidence. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f568d8e997674c0e90c6c7a234509071\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I didn\u2019t want to interrupt members, but I have given some additional questions to the National Party as a result of the interjections while that question was being asked.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223a5704907ac2486f9cdaeb80a896bb35\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: How many texts has she received from Richie Hardcore since she became Prime Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002284477ddc55b349f1a2d7362159ca0c4d\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, I\u2019m unable to answer that question. That member will have to put it down in written form and on notice, and he\u2019s got a couple of days to do it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f46157c6189247f397ef397ee9faf1be\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: What is her understanding about why Richie Hardcore would text her about his friend?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fba3de0136824f49a8bcf7119d35ad12\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, this is becoming more and more an obtuse line of questioning. The fact of the matter is probably 50,000-plus people have communicated with the Prime Minister\u2019s office and the Prime Minister in the last year\u2014maybe much more than that. But here\u2019s the point: which part of the question concerns, Mr Bridges, any evidence of any wrongdoing at all?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224dcb7fdbd68643c9a18e6e92b26c04c1\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Have 50,000 people got the Prime Minister\u2019s cellphone number?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227b6fd3aceccc4753b7ed4d49e85d787c\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Well, about 50,000 have got mine. I think probably about 100,000 have got hers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022badb0a39-849c-462a-b32f-77fc017c9fc2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a3b7b996f1c74379b14e919894bc4d2a\u0022\u003EHon Simon Bridges\u003C/span\u003E: Is Richie Hardcore a close friend of hers?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a285fb63ea5f404db03068aaf22f3ab2\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! That is not a matter for prime ministerial responsibility.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022166f4eaffde24d859f1381168cc5e0e8\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 3\u2014Immigration\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022 data-id=\u0022abe2d337d5a449dbb56cc43955d092ef\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022abe2d337d5a449dbb56cc43955d092ef\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Immigration: Other than Karel Sroubek\u2019s lawyer and family members, who made representations on his behalf in respect of the deportation liability that was the subject of the Minister\u2019s decision on 19 September 2018?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022 data-id=\u002290685e2cd6fb492e9215592a6b8d841d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002290685e2cd6fb492e9215592a6b8d841d\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Minister of Immigration):\u003C/span\u003E I refer the member to the answer I gave when he asked me the same question yesterday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227365bc70d85248f6aab3916c74adcc34\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: When he said yesterday that some people had requested anonymity, is former martial arts champion Mr Richie Hardcore one of those who requested anonymity?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022370bd0235e5d463fbc3c7b0e8e64a5c2\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: As I have said a number of times, I do not consider that it is in the public interest to name specific individuals. However\u2014however\u2014given that the Prime Minister has confirmed that she received unsolicited communication from Richie Hardcore, I am prepared to confirm to the House that I did not receive any communication from him prior to making my decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a63a3cbc04464a69bdb0fcd9cf4558b4\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Does he consider an unsolicited text from a friend of Karel Sroubek to the Prime Minister to be a form of representation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b6b0cabc2bff4f77a051308b694c718a\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: Not when it comes\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022430f73d3e61f4a26933a857fc7d1d381\u0022\u003EHon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. What ministerial responsibility does the Minister of Immigration have for text messages that are sent to the Prime Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022561f105b9cce4190a0660a31a23ad40a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m prepared to let the question go, because it could well be\u2014if the timing was different and the Prime Minister did something with it, it could be a representation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022edfc7f5c1bc84758a6d767e65984e264\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: Not when it comes\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022036f55d978094672972b285cb20d999f\u0022\u003EHon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. That wasn\u2019t the question. If the member asked that question, it would be a legitimate question. That wasn\u2019t the question that he asked. The Minister has no responsibility for the topic of the question that was asked. He could word his question in a different way to get it to a Minister\u2019s responsibility, but the Minister doesn\u2019t have that responsibility.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022392f5896e6ba43be935fa3438b4516f1\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes. I\u2019m going to ask the member to ask it again. I thought it was right at the tangential edge of responsibility and I let it run, and I haven\u2019t been convinced otherwise. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b32995810234405a975104ae94214d3d\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c0c53abede084d649f5034ee04cc6351\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, no. Just ask the question again so we get it straight. If it\u2019s badly out, I\u2019ll rule it out.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022373299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002240ffe7a305be4b53a3e133322d3a1e52\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I\u2019ll reserve the right to speak to it. Would he consider an unsolicited text from a friend of Karel Sroubek to the Prime Minister to be a form of representation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223f1bdbf6b9cb48d7808154f6fcadd7f6\u0022\u003EHon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The text message in question happened after the fact\u2014after the Minister had made the decision. He has no responsibility for it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d2c7648de8c147948128590a82c2d372\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: And we have had a number of questions about representations to the Minister. The Minister\u2019s interpretation of whether something is a representation or not is something which he can explain to the House. I think he\u2019s perfectly capable of doing that. Frankly, the more I listen to the question and the more I think about it, the less merit I think the Leader of the House has. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222579f24898b5430d88da4d14a33f6442\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002242ae41de06ec4a30b6c5bda14aa53aef\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. I\u2019ve asked the Minister to answer the question. There can\u2019t be a point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228eb31edae89a4b83a6a1e49e94c4a98e\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it goes to the merit of the question. I would point out that the primary question was carefully worded not to include representations to the Minister of Immigration but about the deportation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002243717e507d3747a188b7cb48e9a0c0f5\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s right, and if I\u2019d ruled it out, the member might have a point, but I\u2019ve ruled it in.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d919f80af5db4be390c759d6ebe70afc\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: No, because a representation has to have some bearing on the decision that I make.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002246a0ad48640f4304aceeee1212eccf6e\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Has there been any communication between the Prime Minister and himself with regards to the text message from Richie Hardcore, and when did that first occur?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222d8ef4e8cb3541af88bd84faba41d2bd\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, after I made the second decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221a594af102f34aa092d0f30325d34625\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Given he is now playing\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d8ea6688356b48ab81358c71f5c8187d\u0022\u003EHon Gerry Brownlee\u003C/span\u003E: Tell Richie we\u2019ve changed our mind. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a0cb07593e1f45eaba9d7c21ef30072a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! I\u2019ve just reversed my earlier decision. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220672cbe4dd88406d90f49639e5deec73\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Given he is now playing the process of elimination game which he ruled out yesterday, will he now disclose the names of all submitters who made representations?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f3e951a0dcb34fe9bfed6fcb84fc1b6c\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: No. As I said, I do not consider it in the public interest to name specific individuals. The only reason I\u2019ve named Mr Hardcore is because his name has been raised in relation to the Prime Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022162c9e127d324552b2f7e94936ad7e49\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Does he not agree, though, that we have now reached the point where public interest outweighs any issues of privacy with respect to the deportation liability of Mr Sroubek?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002239eef9b2895f43cf825e95bbb52813c6\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: No. I don\u2019t want people who in good faith made representations to be a subject of a witch-hunt from that member. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002269e11124f29541b28710253a77f0cff8\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 4\u2014Finance\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022 data-id=\u00227e76510e468146e0b2f8d5b0de390ad4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227e76510e468146e0b2f8d5b0de390ad4\u0022\u003EHon AMY ADAMS (National\u2014Selwyn)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: Does he stand by all his announcements, statements, and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022 data-id=\u00228a5b28d2bbfb407aba18a0c924c09dd1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228a5b28d2bbfb407aba18a0c924c09dd1\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, in the context in which they were made, given, and undertaken.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002274f9f94ff98340669d7412b54c78f5d4\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Does he stand by his statements that tax policy should work for the benefit of all New Zealanders, given that today\u2019s Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) figures show that this Labour-led Government will be collecting $17.7 billion more tax from New Zealanders over the next four years than was forecast prior to the election, despite growth having slowed?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022433b4374fb1f451ba4a18417b6643674\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: The reason that that tax take is happening is because lots of people around New Zealand and lots of businesses around New Zealand are working hard, making profits, and ensuring that the economy ticks over. I think it\u2019s a sad day when the National Party think that people actually doing well and paying their taxes is a bad thing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002287751025ed5c4f0eadf2351cd238f4a9\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Is he aware that today\u2019s HYEFU figures show that even with growth slowing, that $17.7 billion of extra taxes mean every household will pay nearly $10,000 a year more tax over the next four years than was forecast pre-election?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d41056ef2a924690ad63f3af98f52785\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: I absolutely reject the premise of that question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002258f6a87c41114e6da8071e250a68b8cf\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Does it follow, as night follows day, that taxes usually go up when businesses are successful enough and private individuals are successful enough to pay the taxes?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a5cc8e55a4b14714a6a20080caa510d5\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: Indeed, that is exactly right. What the books today show is that revenue from corporate tax is going up and that the contributions that people make through their PAYE is going up. I want to remind members on the other side of the House that with very few exceptions, this is all under the tax settings that they had in place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229d894e555e894916a17d2cbf387b893e\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Minister aware that today\u2019s HYEFU numbers show that households\u2019 ability to save is getting worse and worse every year under this Government, as more taxes and higher cost of living take their toll?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228802971fa58c45108a54b72ac2a1c9fb\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Can I ask people to be quiet. I think people might have assumed, seeing that there\u2019d been two bursts, that the question was finished. I\u2019ll get the member to start her question again but remind her that as Mr Brownlee has pointed out, questions and answers should not have more than is necessary and certainly shouldn\u2019t have more than two legs.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222bdc9bebf6de461287f4ce6515a471dd\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Just to understand your ruling, I\u2019m sorry, the question didn\u2019t have more than two parts. I paused because of noise from the other side. That wasn\u2019t two parts. Is that your concern?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022454ff5423bfb46c2ba1bfa38b0ed616b\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think what we\u2019ll do is we\u2019ll start the question again, and I will listen carefully to it again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022505d55ef95aa42168d6e051264ab471e\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Minister aware that today\u2019s numbers show that households\u2019 ability to save is getting worse and worse every year under this Government as more taxes and higher cost of living take their toll?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226ef382589dda4fd5b79e4170b28deaae\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: I reject again the premise of the member\u2019s question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dc6c0f88-e781-476d-bca1-d1bf9b69302b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002259dfa65ebe7c46b7a9a9d78fe5ef95c7\u0022\u003EHon Amy Adams\u003C/span\u003E: Can we take from today\u2019s announcements that the transformational Government that this Minister says he\u2019s leading really means higher taxes, lower growth, and households worse off?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225f880831d5da435088fd2457ee2b53ad\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: No, we can\u2019t take it. What we can take from the books that have been released today is that this Government is doing a good job of getting the balance right where we\u2019ve got strong growth, where we\u2019ve got a surplus, and where debt\u2019s being kept under control and we\u2019re finally addressing the massive social and infrastructure deficits that her Government left us.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223d16a72133744da38542404ba4630355\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: On the question of capacity to save, is it not a fact that, twofold: one, the Cullen fund is saving more now than ever before and, two, KiwiSaver has record numbers that are not matched by any previous period in our history?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229d6509793f594961831aec5ab3b05cd0\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, both of those things are true, and the fact is that this Government has turned around what the previous Government failed to do, where they did not put in any Government contributions to the Superannuation Fund for\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022199ab25956204d58bf6d2457a118fea4\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! We have had numerous Speakers\u2019 rulings over the years about donkey drops to attack the Opposition.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022744686d2c00049e5948a8d6f3b69499c\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 5\u2014Transport\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u00228ce5759d377f4f709c2c85c0e2dccda2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228ce5759d377f4f709c2c85c0e2dccda2\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Transport: Does he stand by all his statements on regional fuel taxes?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u0022fbf0cd189e2c4867a5cd593e102a912c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fbf0cd189e2c4867a5cd593e102a912c\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Minister of Transport):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, particularly the ones where I\u2019ve ruled out any outside of Auckland.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f449f9cd268642de9bf6f3ec41ed1d03\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: How can he stand by his statement in the House in October that \u201CWell, it was scaremongering and misinformation for the Leader of the Opposition to go around claiming that the Government was in secret talks with Wellington councils to implement a regional fuel tax. It was never going to happen.\u201D, when documents released under the Official Information Act show senior New Zealand Transport Agency officials were circulating documents in June this year, including a regional fuel tax for Wellington gathering $36 million, as an option to be considered, after an earlier version of that same document had been sent to Ministers?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002266e62cab0b0a4914b0112dc7c2027ebd\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: I do stand by that statement. Officials provide advice on a range of issues, and in this case they provided briefings on the progress made by the multi-stakeholder Let\u2019s Get Wellington Moving governance group, which includes a number of local councils. I specifically ruled out a regional fuel tax to that governance group on 8 October to make it clear that they should focus on other funding arrangements for that programme.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002273bb031d7e884f11b78961cd368b935c\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: How does he square his statement to Radio New Zealand in October \u201Cto be fair, you know, we\u2019ve never had a plan to have additional regional fuel taxes\u201D with a statement in a letter to the mayor of Hamilton: \u201CIf in the future, Hamilton City or the Waikato region wish to have a regional fuel tax, I would encourage you to engage with officials at the Ministry of Transport. Officials will be able to provide guidance [on] any future applications including the matters that will need to be considered and addressed to increase the likelihood of an application being approved.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f654b8a7e24a4acb9cf127f8a4f39921\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it was a pro forma letter that reflected the wording of the legislation\u2014legislation which does not allow any more regional fuel taxes until after 2021. Myself and the Prime Minister have both ruled out any future regional fuel taxes. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022987d7a1f21c84d43b2973b9f4f3677c6\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: How can the Prime Minister have been correct on 31 October, when she told the House that \u201Cthis Government never considered spreading a regional fuel tax.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224be620b0080b454ab3900d6af304e918\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Because we did not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022fa80753e7da74477bef9b12faefa830c\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 6\u2014Transport\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022 data-id=\u0022046b94a1d7a04ccb864664ff2c0e0098\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E6. KIERAN McANULTY (Labour) on behalf of \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022046b94a1d7a04ccb864664ff2c0e0098\u0022\u003EPAUL EAGLE (Labour\u2014Rongotai)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Transport: What progress has the New Zealand Transport Agency made in investigating regulatory non-compliance in the land transport system?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u002201859433e98d40e0b4c5e609da9171ad\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002201859433e98d40e0b4c5e609da9171ad\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Minister of Transport):\u003C/span\u003E The New Zealand Transport Agency (NZTA) advises me that all of the urgent cases have been closed. They are making good progress: 441 cases have been closed out of a total of 850, with work continuing on the remainder. I want to commend the board of NZTA and Meredith Connell, who they brought in to take over the regulatory work, for their efforts to clean up this mess and restore public confidence. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cfd88b2d0fa3490ba70092d6f0750662\u0022\u003EKieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: What actions have been taken by NZTA as a result of this work?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022edff7c36e865488ca95f2e9765b37841\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: As of today, there are 94 compliance actions under way. This includes 48 notices to revoke or suspend, 14 warnings, 26 immediate suspensions, and six licences to certify have been revoked.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226552423fc9de401c91756758d83a86b9\u0022\u003EKieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: What led to the New Zealand Transport Agency having to investigate this regulatory non-compliance?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022064df8821f9e44ec8ceb3652dce7a7c6\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: These lapses go back for the best part of a decade. Meredith Connell have advised that there is a lack of internal systems for dealing with compliance breaches and a lack of focus on compliance. Years of underfunding are clearly at the heart of it. Several industry bodies, media, and Government agencies have been raising concerns about compliance failure for a number of years, and until the Government changed last year, these concerns clearly fell on deaf ears. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ff60b1d238a847fcac7bee58eb974943\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 7\u2014Housing and Urban Development\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022 data-id=\u00224f72152125ad4bf0aee91f8b39934ed9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224f72152125ad4bf0aee91f8b39934ed9\u0022\u003EANDREW BAYLY (National\u2014Hunua)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: What is the forecast cost of underwriting private developers through the Buying off the Plans scheme, and has this changed in today\u2019s Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u0022947724bf837641bc8609d56837455118\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022947724bf837641bc8609d56837455118\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Minister of Housing and Urban Development):\u003C/span\u003E The forecast net cost of underwriting private developers through the Buying off the Plans initiative is expected to be zero over the first three years of the programme. The target for the Buying off the Plans programme over the 10 years is to achieve a net zero cash cost of the underwrite. This is consistent with the basis of the Ministry of Housing and Urban Development\u2019s forecast, which remains unchanged. At 30 November 2018, the net expected cost of underwrites that I\u2019ve approved over the life of the programme is less than $1 million. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThe member may be interested to know that the business case modelled risk to the Crown in a number of scenarios as being between $0.3 billion and $0.7 billion over the 10 years. Note that that modelling has high and low volumes and different typology sizes; hence the range. The Crown will always have the flexibility to reshape the programme if there are material costs over the first few years. There was no change in the Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update (HYEFU) to the forecast cost of underwriting private developers through the Buying off the Plans programme.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220d658f6a3e1d4161b02fb02aaccf4f4e\u0022\u003EAndrew Bayly\u003C/span\u003E: Is Budget 2018 incorrect when it states, \u201CA net $134 million of capital expenditure has been shifted to operating expenditure as a result of the \u2018Buying off the Plans\u2019 programme\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227589c350f1c244129c73c3b0dfdc60f9\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: I believe the Budget documents are correct.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002273d513f219e941cd847139f20f3d03ac\u0022\u003EAndrew Bayly\u003C/span\u003E: What does he say to the commentary on KiwiBuild in the HYEFU released today: \u201CTo achieve programme goals, there may be a need to change policy parameters and provide support to developers and/or homebuyers,\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002280ef376afdfa4d8dbcfdd320d9db11bf\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, every time Treasury does a HYEFU or any of the other economic statements that it\u2019s responsible for, it considers upside and downside risk scenarios. The member\u2019s referred to just one scenario, which includes the possibility of house prices dropping, but I would note that neither Treasury nor the Reserve Bank nor the Government believe that house prices will drop. House prices have stabilised in line with our policies, and on this side of the House we think that\u2019s a good thing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225977b01a59db4555966368a373d84872\u0022\u003EAndrew Bayly\u003C/span\u003E: What are the conditions that would trigger the underwriting of private developers for the amount of $210 million that would result in the Crown paying money to KiwiBuild developers who are unable to sell their houses at the agreed KiwiBuild price?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228f55afc1f899459bba5c5b0f64a4d1b9\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the nature of the underwrite is that it\u2019s triggered by a particular house not being sold.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002251edcdd6681a4fd7890f79ae9ed42f30\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 8\u2014Education\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022 data-id=\u00224247ea20fc7140ac9813f5b5046dffda\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224247ea20fc7140ac9813f5b5046dffda\u0022\u003ESIMEON BROWN (National\u2014Pakuranga)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Education: Does he believe the New Zealand taxpayers are getting value for money out of the fees-free scheme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022ef6de4fa5e154997b043591524a1f0a8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ef6de4fa5e154997b043591524a1f0a8\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e32ce4bbf0254b0fbc14ddc60960dea0\u0022\u003ESimeon Brown\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister think it is good use of taxpayers\u2019 money that more than $50 million of the fees-free budget was wasted by students that either failed or withdrew during their first year?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d3e43494b38445eb9bba19e82a881062\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: It won\u2019t be $50 million. The member is making a number of very significant assumptions in order to get to that figure, including assuming that someone who withdraws from a course is withdrawing from an entire programme.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224707b10fe22a435a886760eba35b4a58\u0022\u003ESimeon Brown\u003C/span\u003E: Well, then, has the Minister done the calculations, and, if so, how much is it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022afb110749f2d43d5bfb83b5b255b903a\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: No, it\u2019s not possible to do the calculations yet because the data is not available to do them accurately. We don\u2019t know how many students have withdrawn at this point in the year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002214c151e738d948eda640a3cf70a2b776\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 9\u2014Health\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022 data-id=\u00222995c50237574cc6918d54d03b8adec6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222995c50237574cc6918d54d03b8adec6\u0022\u003EANGIE WARREN-CLARK (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Health: What announcements has he made about a response to synthetic drugs?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022 data-id=\u002273015b9cdc064265bbe726ce9551385d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002273015b9cdc064265bbe726ce9551385d\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK (Minister of Health):\u003C/span\u003E Earlier today, the police Minister and I announced a crackdown on the suppliers and manufacturers of synthetic drugs in response to an increase in drug-related deaths. We intend to classify as class A the two main synthetic drugs\u20145FABD and AMB Fubinaca\u2014that have been linked to recent deaths. This will give police the search and seizure powers they need to crack down on suppliers and manufacturers, who also face tougher penalties, up to life imprisonment. We\u2019re also creating a temporary drug classification category, C1, so new drugs can easily be brought under the Misuse of Drugs Act, giving police the search and seizure powers needed to interrupt supply, which is an important part of a health response. Synthetic-drug dealers are on notice, and they will face the full force of the law.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d5396401d57e480e9b8ca69cb4df6ecd\u0022\u003EAngie Warren-Clark\u003C/span\u003E: How will these announcements affect people with addiction problems?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002236b5dea892a148958a35ffbef6da4268\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: Good question. We don\u2019t want our jails full of people with addiction problems; we want these people getting treatment and help. So today, we\u2019ve also announced that we will be amending the Misuse of Drugs Act to specify in law that police should use their discretion and not prosecute for possession and personal use where a therapeutic approach would be more beneficial or there is no public interest in a prosecution. We know the police are already using their discretion in this regard, but I want to be clear: misuse of drugs remains illegal. Police will continue to prosecute people for possession where appropriate. We are striking a balance between discouraging drug use and recognising that many people using drugs need support from the health system or education about harm reduction.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227863bf1365774b34ba7139ce8026787d\u0022\u003EAngie Warren-Clark\u003C/span\u003E: Why has the Government made these changes?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002272222edc8eaf4429b8bfe2231aa70e08\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: Under current laws, synthetics and other dangerous drugs are killing people and fuelling crime while dealers and manufacturers get rich. The current approach is failing to keep Kiwis safe; it is time to do what will work. We need to go harder on the manufacturers of dangerous drugs like synthetics and treat the use of drugs as a health issue by removing barriers to people seeking help.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022563158dfd0ce4448b4bbfe53cf54a728\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 10\u2014ACC\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022 data-id=\u00224439a73a752d4eb6954f10fb2ec339f2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224439a73a752d4eb6954f10fb2ec339f2\u0022\u003EHon TIM MACINDOE (National\u2014Hamilton West)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for ACC: What evidence, if any, did he seek and consider in reaching his reported view that the ACC Vehicle Risk Rating programme had not contributed to a safer vehicle fleet?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022 data-id=\u00224365d136188b402cb7c3278da67be092\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224365d136188b402cb7c3278da67be092\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY (Minister for ACC):\u003C/span\u003E I received advice from officials, met with the motor vehicle industry expert group, and considered feedback from public consultation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d4bc3b79134247dd9c7f6c767998a914\u0022\u003EHon Tim Macindoe\u003C/span\u003E: What does he say to those New Zealanders who are driving the safest cars on our roads, according to their vehicle risk rating category, who will now face an increase exceeding 150 percent in the cost of registering their vehicles?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022857a77a7394547a3a975094df8c6c672\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: I would say to them that they are contributing to the motor vehicle account so that ACC is in good health and there where Kiwis need it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f677db8b-66c5-4794-953c-bdf7aa425710\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002221c297203d7946c689dcae45bbefb8a7\u0022\u003EMarja Lubeck\u003C/span\u003E: What does the Government intend to do with the data collected by the vehicle risk rating programme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227b9de5ea62c1404ea859082839f48535\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: The information contained in the vehicle risk ratings is useful to consumers. To that end, Cabinet has directed officials to consider ways the vehicle risk rating information can be made available to consumers at the point of sale.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022608ffa9921444a8f974ef066a249c254\u0022\u003EHon Tim Macindoe\u003C/span\u003E: If the Minister believes that the vehicle risk rating programme has not contributed to a safer vehicle fleet, then has he asked the transport Minister why the New Zealand Transport Agency is currently focusing on expensive advertising campaigns with slogans such as \u201CThe safer the car, the safer they are.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022490ccdbf-7c22-4e12-98f2-f3aa08f8e676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220dff71fec831428899a13f2dd7f82eea\u0022\u003EHon IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY\u003C/span\u003E: I absolutely agree that the safer the car, the safer they are, but what I also agree with is all the advice I receive that variable levies based on vehicle risk rating is not making any difference to people\u2019s purchasing choices. What will potentially make a difference is providing that information up front when people purchase their vehicle, and that\u2019s what the Government intends to do.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002279be68fe869c4e09b68b387dd777f651\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 11\u2014Biosecurity\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022 data-id=\u0022cee8226aebba4ba49689dd71b8c2d418\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cee8226aebba4ba49689dd71b8c2d418\u0022\u003EHon NATHAN GUY (National\u2014\u014Ctaki)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Biosecurity: Do detector dog teams provide complete coverage when the International Mail Centre is operating; if not, on how many days since 26 October 2017 have there been times when no detector dog teams have been working whilst the centre is operating?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022 data-id=\u0022837d51003a1a4e0793169c37295bdf3c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022837d51003a1a4e0793169c37295bdf3c\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR (Minister for Biosecurity):\u003C/span\u003E The first thing to note is that the mail centre does not work 24 hours a day, although dogs are scheduled to work on the international mail lines every day that it does operate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002212a48adf9b6d4de3b7f4ee6095c49cdb\u0022\u003EHon Nathan Guy\u003C/span\u003E: Why doesn\u2019t the Ministry of Primary Industries (MPI) have enough dog detector teams operating on the mail pathway that allowed 26 brown marmorated stink bugs that were alive to come through the border in a shoebox?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a58a450df5844206b24f62162ccbbac6\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR\u003C/span\u003E: We currently have about 50 dog teams, and by the end of next year we will have 60. The dogs are trained either to detect seeds and other unwanted organisms or bugs, not both. I can\u2019t explain how that particular box came through, other than to say that we are upping the systems all the time and improving the investment. The hours that the dogs are operating are about the same level as operated in 2016 and 2017, when that member was the Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eff3070846db45b28ddddedf5b5f0c14\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Seeing as 26 October 2017 was the first day of the new Government, how many months would he have had to take to get the dog detector teams prepared that weren\u2019t there when he became the Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ec418f070cb84f869a5f10fb303adaf7\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR\u003C/span\u003E: It takes many months to train a good dog. This Government is currently undertaking the training of 10 additional dog teams. The fact that we didn\u2019t have sufficient when we took over is an indictment of that previous Government\u2019s lack of commitment to biosecurity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002223de6bd3-0482-495d-88f4-7cc3f75d8442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022394e88985ab14162b63721b930a2daa3\u0022\u003EHon Nathan Guy\u003C/span\u003E: As he\u2019s confirmed that historically, dog detector teams have covered the international mail pathway, why now, in the height of the brown marmorated stink bug season, are there not enough MPI resources to get the dogs out of their kennels to protect the primary sector?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227080140967f64b549d58c3e1fd65bbf3\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR\u003C/span\u003E: There are plenty of resources. What we don\u2019t have is enough well-trained dogs, and that\u2019s because the previous Government didn\u2019t train them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022283afa68b2de4c90b58412622f3d51a5\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Is the greater dog detector team\u2014a solution that that Minister is putting in place\u2014a response to the fact that he inherited a situation where twice as many dog detectors were there as there were dogs? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d3304024794146258a14e25cbf00e9b5\u0022\u003EHon DAMIEN O\u2019CONNOR\u003C/span\u003E: Correct. I have to say that, you know, we do rely on dogs, although it\u2019s not the only part of a robust biosecurity system, and the fact that we\u2019ve had to match up the resources and train enough dogs so that there are an adequate number of dog handlers to manage them at the same time says that the previous Government had a lack of strategic planning for the biosecurity system. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022506d5ae641574af8ba68bed991ca8401\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 12\u2014Building and Construction\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022 data-id=\u0022a0f1747a49ea4d35885c12fb5b6c9e40\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E12. KIERAN McANULTY (Labour) on behalf of \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a0f1747a49ea4d35885c12fb5b6c9e40\u0022\u003EKIRITAPU ALLAN (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Building and Construction: What recent actions has the Government taken to support the construction industry?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022 data-id=\u00224b71195e9d4c4f338d0c1a4d8895cc10\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224b71195e9d4c4f338d0c1a4d8895cc10\u0022\u003EHon JENNY SALESA (Minister for Building and Construction):\u003C/span\u003E The Minister for Economic Development, the Hon David Parker, and I have jointly written to all Ministers asking them to instruct the chief executives of the Government\u2019s 137 agencies and departments to begin taking skills and training into account now when contracting for large construction projects, rather than waiting for this to become mandatory. The Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) is currently working to make skills training and development a formal requirement for construction projects valued at over $10 million. This will take effect next year, but we believe the Government should act now and take a leadership role in building and construction. This will give certainty to the construction industry. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224029495663e94223acbd84c4839c5856\u0022\u003EKieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: How can Government agencies support skills development and training in the construction industry? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c60ce4a3c5a749c3af21c629ad5f9ae6\u0022\u003EHon JENNY SALESA\u003C/span\u003E: The Government has the opportunity to leverage its construction projects through procurement to encourage businesses to train and develop people in order to address and help our current skills shortage in Aotearoa New Zealand. MBIE\u2019s construction procurement guidelines, which are voluntary, were developed, together with the industry, in 2015. However, procurement practices across the Government agencies have been inconsistent, including the practice of taking the lowest-cost approach to procurement and the inappropriate transfer of risk. This has contributed to the current challenges that are facing the construction sector today. This sector agrees with the Government agencies\u2019 approach, and they are happy to apply the procurement guidelines. This will have a positive effect on the construction sector. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022fc6b2474c03a4daf821c76b4243abd3e\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00224b8e6285ba4f48869c84667c306a0db5\u0022\u003EIn Committee\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e1bef975cfd542f69b4480847ccd9162\u0022\u003EPart 1  Preliminary matters, acknowledgements and apology, and settlement of historical claims\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u0022b67d042b398a4a4e8b80e6c17438ad21\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b67d042b398a4a4e8b80e6c17438ad21\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I\u2019m taking this opportunity to speak briefly to Supplementary Order Paper 181. For the benefit of the members of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa who are in the gallery, who are here, we are doing a small, technical procedure which just makes some minor amendments to the bill, just before we do its third reading. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe M\u0101ori Affairs Committee reported the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Claims Settlement Bill back to this House on 19 June this year and recommended that it be passed with minor technical amendments. In my second reading speech on the bill, I also noted that further amendments to the bill in relation to the Waipahihi stream conservation area would need to be considered by way of a Supplementary Order Paper. So the Supplementary Order Paper (SOP) that we are presently considering for the purposes of this committee stage will make technical amendments and additions to two clauses and one schedule of the bill. These changes won\u2019t alter the make-up of the bill or, indeed, the redress package. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe amendments and additions to two clauses are required to validate the lease arrangements over the Waipahihi stream conservation area and specify the requirements for future leases over the land. The land is included in the bill as a property to transfer to Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa on settlement date as a recreational reserve. The land is subject to a lease granted under the Land Act 1948 in 1966, held by Taup\u014D Hot Springs Ltd, who own the DeBretts Hot Springs business currently operating on the land. However, the lease was incorrectly renewed in 1997 under the Land Act 1948 rather than the Conservation Act 1987. This means that the existing lease is currently unlawful and likely voidable. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EOfficials from the Department of Conservation, the Office of Treaty Settlements, and the Crown Law Office have been in consultation with both Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa and Taupo Hot Springs Ltd since the issue was identified, to find a solution that meets the interests of everybody. Officials have consulted with Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa and Taupo Hot Springs Ltd about the amendments in the proposed SOP, and that ought to conclude all matters and allow the whole issue to proceed accordingly. I want to just conclude by thanking members of the Parliamentary Counsel Office for their assistance and thoroughness in ensuring that that is done and the legislation is ready for the committee. On that basis, I commend to the committee the three changes alone outlined in SOP 181.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EBefore I proceed any further, I seek leave for all provisions to be taken as one debate for the purpose of this matter.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022c2917150aa7641f5b7ab77505cd9337c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c2917150aa7641f5b7ab77505cd9337c\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There appears to be not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u00223c3d1e5acbed4644893b434fd2fc11e1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223c3d1e5acbed4644893b434fd2fc11e1\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (National):\u003C/span\u003E Can I just take a brief call to congratulate the officials and the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations on sorting this matter out. It was a concern to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I know that the owners of the operation were\u2014it was a very stressful time for them. The effect of the amendments moved by the Minister in the Supplementary Order Paper will be to regulate matters and provide a basis on which there can be a negotiation in the future. And I note that new clauses 91(A) to 91(C) only come into force on a date to be determined by Order in Council. So I think this is a very satisfactory arrangement, and I can assure the Minister that it will impress those members of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee who were dealing with this matter and had been very concerned with it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe question was put that the amendments set out on Supplementary Order Paper 181 in the name of the Hon Andrew Little to clauses 2 and 91 and schedule 3 be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EAmendments agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EParts 1 to 5, schedules 1 to 6, and clauses 1 and 2 as amended agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EHouse resumed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EProgress reported.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EReport adopted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002281230e290e7c4f82aa92222b5e84765d\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u00229fc99c3911784b60967eacbd668dce00\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229fc99c3911784b60967eacbd668dce00\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa iwi, nau mai, haere mai, whakatau mai. E te ariki nui, T\u0101 Tumu, nau mai, haere mai ki Te Whare P\u0101remata. He r\u0101 tino nui t\u0113nei m\u014D koutou. He r\u0101 tino nui hoki m\u014D Aotearoa. N\u0101 koutou te kaha me te manawanui n\u014D reira rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113nei taku mihi atu ki a koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E[Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa tribe, welcome, welcome, welcome. To the paramount chief, Sir Tumu, welcome, welcome, to Parliament. This is a big day for you. This is also a big day for New Zealand. You have had strength and patience, therefore, my esteemed elders, this is my greeting to you, greetings, greetings, greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to begin by extending a very warm welcome to Sir Tumu te Heuheu and to those members of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa who have travelled to Wellington today to be here for the third and last reading of your settlement bill. Reaching this milestone has been a long journey for your tribe. Indeed, this October marked five years since officials of the Office of Treaty Settlements first visited Waih\u012B Marae at Tokaanu to initiate settlement negotiations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThis bill will give effect to the deed of settlement signed by Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa and the Crown at Waitetoko Marae on 8 July last year. The bill itself has five parts and includes impressive cultural redress and significant Crown apology redress. Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s cultural redress will give the iwi greater influence over the management of some of the sites that are most sacred to them. They will also participate in regional conservation management initiatives and exercise mana and kaitiakitanga over the Taup\u014D catchment in partnership with the local authorities. Thirty-two sites are also being returned to Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa through this settlement bill, including sites at Five Mile Bay, Huka Falls, Parakiri, the Tongariro National Trout Centre, and Taurewa Landcorp farm. In addition to the funds the iwi received through the central North Island settlement, Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa will also receive $25 million in financial and commercial redress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThis settlement also includes Crown apology redress. Often, when the New Zealand public think about what a Treaty settlement comprises, they focus on the redistribution of financial assets and culturally significant sites, such as the ones I\u2019ve just mentioned. And, of course, they\u2019re not wrong to do so; it\u2019s clear how such redress helps M\u0101ori lay to rest almost 180 years of deeply held grievance and how it fosters the social progress and economic renewal of New Zealand\u2019s tangata whenua. But, in a Treaty settlement, the Crown also acknowledges the ways it has breached its obligations under Te Tiriti and formally apologises to M\u0101ori for this wrongdoing. To do this, it agrees an historical account with iwi, where both groups revisit and renegotiate the shared understanding of the events that happened between them. It can be easy to overlook the latent power of the historical record, but its reassessment is as significant as any piece of cultural or commercial redress. Indeed, it was ahead of this third reading that I reflected upon the restorative power of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s Crown apology redress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s Treaty settlement includes one of our nation\u2019s most important examples of this process: Horonuku Te Heuheu T\u016Bkino IV\u2019s tuku of the three central North Island volcanic peaks in 1887. For more than a century, the narrative, told and retold, about Horonuku\u2019s act became an entrenched romantic myth of sacrifice and beneficence. The ariki\u2019s gift developed into a convenient albeit inaccurate parable that uncritically assumed Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s wholesale agreement to the establishment of the Tongariro National Park, the introduction of exotic species within its borders, and the construction of recreation and public works infrastructure upon the mountain slopes. Through this Treaty settlement, however, Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa and the Crown have officially reappraised the meaning of Horonuku\u2019s act and seek to finally overturn the fallacious myth of the old rangatira-style gift.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EAs the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, I\u2019m proud to state on behalf of the Crown that the ariki\u2019s tuku was not an unconditional gift. Horonuku intended the tuku to establish a shared responsibility with the Crown in order to protect and preserve the three maunga for Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, for all iwi, and for all New Zealanders. To appreciate the difference between a tuku and a gift is to finally recognise that Horonuku sought a true partnership between Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa and the Crown\u2014a partnership with obligations that the Crown has not always honoured. To realise the difference between a tuku and a gift is to return to Horonuku the dignity that the myth of the gift has sought to diminish. And, finally, to understand the difference between a tuku and a gift means that the Crown accepts that the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa view the mountains as living rangatira\u2014deified guardians who watch over the tribe and to whom the people belong.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThis is but one very special example of how re-engagement with the past can help to re-forge M\u0101ori agency and identity in the new millennium. Reappraising our nation\u2019s historical record isn\u2019t about rewriting this country\u2019s history; it\u2019s about an equitable, balanced reassessment of our past in order to invigorate a shared future. To understand this is to appreciate how Treaty settlements have the power to recast meaning from two world views rather than the Crown\u2019s alone and that this approach is the foundation of true partnership.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThis bill is testament to the hard work of many people over many years. I want to begin by paying tribute to Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s ariki Sir Tumu te Heuheu and his forebears of Te Whare o te Heuheu. Sir Tumu and seven generations of paramount chiefs before him have worked tirelessly as advocates for their iwi. It\u2019s an honour to have you in the House today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EI also want to acknowledge all the people who contributed to this settlement, who have worked for many years to hold the Crown to account but who are no longer with us to bear witness to this milestone. Let this day be a tribute to the dedication of those dearly loved people who have passed on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe unflagging determination of the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa negotiation team deserves special mention. Since 2010, Sir Michael Cullen led the entity mandated to represent Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa in comprehensive settlement negotiations with the Crown. He and his team have worked long days and, I know, many nights and made significant personal sacrifices to reach this milestone.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EFrom the Crown, I\u2019d like to acknowledge the hard work and dedication of the Crown team, led by chief Crown negotiator John Isles with support from the Office of Treaty Settlements, the Department of Conservation, Land Information New Zealand, the Department of Internal Affairs, the Ministry for the Environment, and other agencies. I want to acknowledge also the chair and members of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, who delivered their report in a timely, professional manner. And, of course, it would be remiss of me not to also acknowledge once again on this very special occasion the work of my predecessor, the Hon Chris Finlayson, and the legacy that he leaves, relived through so many Treaty settlements concluded in his time as Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003ELastly, I want to acknowledge the people of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa. Without their support, courage, and foresight we would not be here today. Their unflagging determination to hold the Crown to account for its acts and omissions and their desire to advance the social well-being and economic prosperity of their tribe have led us to this moment. With the passage of this bill, I hope that Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa will be able to support and develop their people in ways that best suit their needs and that iwi will grow alongside the community in Taup\u014D as everyone works together on projects that will build the prosperity of the region.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThis third reading concludes the settlement of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s historical Treaty claims. In doing so, the Crown renews its partnership with iwi and commitment to the principles of the Treaty of Waitangi, and, in the new year, Te Kotahitanga o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa and the new M\u0101ori-Crown relations agency, Te Arawhiti, will take our first bold steps together. I commend the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Claims Settlement Bill to the House. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022 data-id=\u00227ff3cb52320741988a4fe9b219e63652\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227ff3cb52320741988a4fe9b219e63652\u0022\u003ENUK KORAKO (National):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 pu\u0101waitaka o t\u014D t\u0101tou m\u0101tua t\u012Bpuna. I k\u0101 mea nui ki te mihi atu ki t\u014D t\u0101tou Matua Nui i te Raki, ko ia te t\u012Bmataka me te whakaute kua te ao katoa. N\u014D reira ka mihi au ki te kaih\u014Dmai o k\u0101 mea pai katoa. Ka maumahara m\u0101tou ki a r\u0101tou kai tua kua wehe ki te ao wairua, n\u014D reira e koutou r\u0101, o ia marae, o ia iwi, o ia waka, haere i ruka ki te ara o te wh\u0101nui a T\u0101ne, kua tua o te \u0101rai, haere, haere, e haere atu r\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira anei r\u0101 mihi h\u014Dhonu ki ng\u0101 uri o Te Arawa waka. Ka huri te titiro ki ng\u0101 tapuae o Ng\u0101toroirangi e takatakahia \u014D koutou whenua. Ng\u0101 uri o T\u016Bwharetoa i te ao p\u014Duri, t\u016B mai, t\u016B mai, t\u016B mai koutou. He mihi kau ana ki a koutou T\u016Bwharetoa iwi e tau mai ki Te Upoko o te Ika ki te tautoko i te kaupapa nei, te muru o te hara n\u0101 k\u0101wanataka i mahia, te k\u014Drero t\u016B\u012B, tuatoru o te pire nei. Ka nunui te mihi ki a koe e te ariki, rakatira, e T\u0101 Tumu te Heuheu. N\u014D reira, e koutou r\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, e mihi atu ki a koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E[Greetings to you the fruits of our ancestors. Most importantly, I acknowledge our Father in heaven, who is the beginning and tender of all things. Consequently, I acknowledge the giver of all good things. We remember those beyond the veil who have departed to the spirit world, therefore to them, of every marae, of every tribe, of every canoe, go on the wide path of T\u0101ne, to beyond the veil, go, go, go yonder. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ETherefore, here are deep greetings to the descendants of Te Arawa waka. My gaze turns to look at the footsteps of Ng\u0101toroirangi who treaded on your lands. The descendants of T\u016Bwharetoa in the dark world, arise, arise, arise. Unreserved greetings to you T\u016Bwharetoa tribe who have alighted in Wellington to support this initiative, the ritual compensation for the transgression done by government, the reading, the third reading of this bill. A huge acknowledgment to you the paramount chief, chief, Sir Tumu te Heuheu. Accordingly, all of you, greetings, greetings to all of you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EThe story of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa in modern times is a story of unified purpose and endurance. It is a story of a paramount people respected the length of both islands for the bravery and for their fortitude. Their bravery and fortitude was sorely tested when, in 1863, Crown troops invaded the Waikato. Prior to this, Iwikau Te Heuheu, ariki of T\u016Bwharetoa, had played a statesman\u2019s role in building relations between the iwi and the Crown. He had sought to constrain his iwi anger at the growing alienation of lands, but this House and the people of New Zealand should not mistake Iwikau\u2019s actions as appeasement. Iwikau was an ardent advocate for M\u0101ori rights, and in 1856 he convened a hui at P\u016Bkawa to oppose further sales of M\u0101ori land.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EIwikau was also an ardent devotee of the emerging K\u012Bngitanga and supported the installation of P\u014Dtatau Te Wherowhero as M\u0101ori King. He was instrumental in pledging T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s support for the K\u012Bngitanga. He was succeeded by his nephew Horonuku Te Heuheu. Horonuku had watched his uncle constrain T\u016Bwharetoa hands in the previous clashes between the Crown and Taranaki in 1861 to 1863. Iwikau was concerned to protect T\u016Bwharetoa lands from unscrupulous Crown land dealings. I give this background to the House so that they understand the deliberate course of peace that T\u016Bwharetoa attempted to take with the Crown. The Crown invasion of Waikato forced T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s hand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ET\u016Bwharetoa had a solemn promise in place with the K\u012Bngitanga. These alliances and promises are profound, and iwi mana hinges on the honouring of promises made to each other. For our old people, death was better than dishonour. Failure of mana would pass down through generations until addressed. T\u016Bwharetoa was honour-bound to fight with the K\u012Bngitanga, but, more importantly, they had to fight the tyranny of the Crown. The invasion of Waikato was unjust. T\u016Bwharetoa understood that if they did not support their kin, they would likely be next. In any case, fight they did.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EUnfortunately, T\u016Bwharetoa was dealing with an adversary who was wilfully blind to M\u0101ori tikaka and determined in its purpose of stopping the expression of tino rangatiratanga to M\u0101ori. The Crown deliberately sought to misinterpret T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s actions as rebellion rather than obligation. The Crown used its most treasured instrument of torture to punish T\u016Bwharetoa, and that was raupatu, or land confiscation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI said yesterday in this House that I cannot perceive how the Crown thought impoverishing M\u0101ori, their fellow New Zealand citizens, would work to the betterment of New Zealand. And I say this knowing that my predecessors were not ignorant of the impact of their actions in confiscating M\u0101ori lands. It was deliberate. It was a deliberate act of devastation designed to free up M\u0101ori land and to demoralise our M\u0101ori people as well. Much of the actions of some members of this House in the years subsequent to the confiscations led me to the conclusion that they were deliberately hastening the demise of M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EFortunately, it didn\u2019t work, because the evidence stands or sits in the gallery here before us. It sits here today. T\u016Bwharetoa have rebelled. They have rebelled against the path that this House tried to impose on them when we, the Crown, went to war against them and then unjustly took their lands from them. I mihi to the mana of T\u016Bwharetoa, who honour their commitments in peace and in war.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EIt is Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa who says ka mate k\u0101inga tahi, ka ora k\u0101inga rua [the first home passes away, the second home lives]\u2014a person who stands alone perishes; a person who stands alongside their people will endure. Through all their trials and tribulations, T\u016Bwharetoa has stood as a people alongside each other. And today I stand in this House and celebrate the passing of the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Claims Settlement Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EIn previous speeches, I\u2019ve outlined the various features of this bill, so I\u2019m not going to go into the technicalities of the bill itself. But I also undertook to speak in more detail about the apology that this House would proffer to the people of T\u016Bwharetoa, as we\u2019ve just heard from the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, because this speech, the Minister\u2019s speech, is actually an apology. It is an apology for punishing T\u016Bwharetoa rather than honouring T\u016Bwharetoa for the fighting against my parliamentary predecessors\u2019 tyranny. It is an apology to T\u016Bwharetoa for standing up for freedom and the rule of law and for laying down their lives in defence of rights of all New Zealanders that we hold inalienable today. New Zealand can be truly grateful to M\u0101oridom and the people of T\u016Bwharetoa who first took up arms in defence of freedom and against the tyranny of Government oppression and which inspired our country to do likewise against the Nazi tyranny in 1939.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EWhakaponotia, manaakitia, p\u016Bmautia ki ng\u0101 tikaka a Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2014and that is: believe, care for, hold fast to them through the tikanga of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa. T\u016Bwharetoa, these are indeed your words and may they become New Zealand\u2019s words when we say truth is on our side. Care and hold fast to the values not just for T\u016Bwharetoa but for all of Aotearoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EMay I convey my true gratitude to T\u016Bwharetoa for their ongoing patience and true aroha that they\u2019ve shown in all these years of loss they have suffered. T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s humility and manaaki to the whole country stands as a testament to the mana of this truly great, respected iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ETo the iwi of T\u016Bwharetoa, the final steps of the journey are here today when your bill passes into legislation. It\u2019s been a long journey and we all honour you here today. N\u014D reira e koutou r\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, e mihi atu, e mihi atu ki a koutou katoa. N\u014D reira meri Kirihimete me ng\u0101 mihi m\u014D te tau hou. N\u014D reira kia kaha, kia m\u0101ia, kia manawa mawananui. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, e mihi atu, e mihi atu ki a koutou katoa. Kia ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E[Therefore, to all of you, greetings, greetings, greetings, I greet all of you. Also, merry Christmas and greetings for the new year. Thereby be strong, be brave, be patient. Greetings, greetings, greetings, I greet all of you. Thank you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022 data-id=\u002262e85a0240ca4c47a4a5d2ff9d082e35\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002262e85a0240ca4c47a4a5d2ff9d082e35\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I understand the next call is a split call. There\u2019ll be a bell at one minute.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022 data-id=\u00227b623a43f3b744b2a38a01a19c22208e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227b623a43f3b744b2a38a01a19c22208e\u0022\u003EHon PEENI HENARE (Minister for the Community and Voluntary Sector):\u003C/span\u003E E Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, ka noho tonu ahau ki roto i Te Reo M\u0101ori m\u014D te roanga ake o taku k\u014Drero i te r\u0101 nei. Ka t\u012Bmata ake me p\u0113nei ki roto i a au ko te k\u014Drero e k\u012B p\u0113nei ana, ehara taku hoa a k\u0101inga roa, he purupuru he taka ka p\u0101tau ko ahau, ko te t\u012Bt\u012B, ko te aporei, ko te tama i \u0101ta purupuru m\u0101rire, ko te angaanga t\u012Bt\u012B i hoe te rangi, ko Ng\u0101ti Rangi e t\u016B nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u0101, ka waihona atu taua k\u014Drero i kon\u0101 ki te t\u0101h\u016Bh\u016B o t\u014D t\u0101tou Whare. He aha te take o taua k\u014Drero? N\u0101, n\u0101 t\u014Dku tupuna a Tara, i noho ki runga i te w\u0101 k\u0101inga i whakak\u0101ingahia ai e te tupuna o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, ar\u0101 o iwi kau ki roto i a au o Te Tai Tokerau, o Te P\u0113whairangi. N\u014D reira hei t\u016Bhono i te whakapapa o t\u0113nei e t\u016B nei ki a Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, e iriiri mai nei ki runga i ng\u0101 p\u0101t\u016B o t\u014D t\u0101tou Whare. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EHuri tua atu ki a koe e te tupuna, hei taku ariki, e Tumu. Tuatahi ka mihi atu ahau ki a koe m\u014D ng\u0101 mahi nunui i oti i a koe ki te h\u0101pai i ng\u0101 kaupapa kei te w\u0101 k\u0101inga o Te P\u0113whairangi. M\u014D te hia tau ka noho mai koe ki runga i te poari whakahaere o te whenua ki Waitangi. Te w\u0101hi i hainatia ai e \u014Dku m\u0101tua, e \u014Dku t\u016Bpuna, i Te Tiriti o Waitangi. T\u0113nei ka mihi, t\u0113nei ka tangi. Ka tangi n\u0101 runga i te m\u014Dhio ka whakangaro atu r\u0101 koe i t\u014D t\u0101ua k\u0101inga o Te P\u0113whairangi. Heoi n\u0101, heoi n\u0101 an\u014D kua tukuna atu e au ki a koe m\u0101 runga i te rangim\u0101rie me ng\u0101 mihi maioha o te hau k\u0101inga, ki a koe kei taku ariki t\u0113n\u0101 koe. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti ki a koutou katoa e ng\u0101 matatini o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, he kitenga kanohi, he hokinga mahara. Ko ng\u0101 whakaaro nui ki ng\u0101 aitu\u0101 maha o te w\u0101, ki roto i ng\u0101 tau, ki roto i ng\u0101 marama, ki roto i ng\u0101 wiki kua pahure ake nei. R\u0101tou kua whet\u016Brangitia, n\u0101 r\u0101tou i h\u0101pai t\u0113nei kaupapa, kua wahaina mai e \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 kaik\u014Drero o te tari i te r\u0101 nei, i te h\u012Btori e p\u0101 ana ng\u0101 t\u016Bkinotanga o Te Tiriti o Waitangi ki a koutou o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa. Heoi an\u014D ka mihi atu ahau ki a r\u0101tou, ka tangi atu ahau ki a r\u0101tou. Haere mai, haere, whakahokia mai ng\u0101 r\u0101rangi k\u014Drero ki a koutou e \u014Dku rangatira. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u0100e, ka tautoko atu ahau i ng\u0101 mihi o te Minita a te Hon Andrew Little ki roto i te hoe o te komiti o Te Whare i t\u012Bnihia w\u0113tahi o ng\u0101 t\u016B\u0101huatanga ki roto i te pire, hei whakatikatika i \u0113tahi t\u016B\u0101huatanga kei roto i te pire, kia whai motuhake ai koutou o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa ki roto i te p\u0101nuitanga tuatoru. Heoi an\u014D ko aua whakatikatika he mea pai, he mea hei tautoko i te nuinga, otir\u0101 e Te Whare i te r\u0101 nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EE tautoko ana ahau i w\u0101na mihi ki te Minita tawhito a te Hon Christopher Finlayson, \u0101, me t\u014Dku tuakana a Rino Tirikatene, n\u0101, ko ia te heamana o te R\u014Dp\u016B Whiriwhiri i ng\u0101 Take M\u0101ori. An\u0101, ko te tangata i mua i a ia, ko Nuk Korako. Ka mihi atu ahau ki ng\u0101 \u0101piha, ki ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata katoa kua h\u0101pai nei t\u0113nei kaupapa. E \u014Dku rangatira kua kite atu koutou kua tata pau te w\u0101 ki a au. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI mea mai te mema a Nuk Korako, \u201CKo te mutunga t\u0113nei.\u201D Ko t\u0101ku e k\u012B atu ahau ki a koutou e k\u0101hore, ko te t\u012Bmatanga k\u0113. Kua tae ki te w\u0101 kua whakap\u0101ha mai te K\u0101wanatanga ki a koutou, n\u0101 kua whakaritea mai ki roto i te pire i t\u0113tahi rahi p\u016Btea, i te whakahokinga atu i ng\u0101 w\u0101hi o t\u014D koutou w\u0101 k\u0101inga ki a koutou, ka tautoko m\u0101rika. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EHeoi an\u014D, ko te mea nui, kei roto i \u014D koutou ringaringa te \u0101p\u014Dp\u014Dtanga m\u014D Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa. Horekau he take tua atu i t\u0113n\u0101. I kite atu ahau i ng\u0101 tamariki, mokopuna, e omaoma haere nei, e tangi haere nei ki roto i t\u014D t\u0101tou Whare. Ko te manako ko ng\u0101 mahi ka tutukihia i a t\u0101tou i te r\u0101 nei ana, an\u0101 te oranga m\u014D ng\u0101 uri whakatupu \u0101 taihoa ake nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti, e \u014Dku rangatira, e tika ana ng\u0101 k\u014Drero, m\u0101 te Atua koutou e manaaki, e tiaki i roto i t\u014D koutou hokinga atu ki te w\u0101 k\u0101inga, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou e Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, ka tautoko ahau i te pire.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E[To the Deputy Speaker, I will remain in the M\u0101ori language for the duration of my speech today. I shall begin this way: amongst my own there is a saying which goes like this, my friend is not long home, is of no account, and merely serves as caulking, and oft will fall off. If, however, we contemplate the zenith, the principal chief, the diligent preserving son, the head adorned with the plume from the heavens, it is Ng\u0101ti Rangi who stands before me.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ESo I will leave that saying here with the ridgepole of our House. What is the point of that saying? Well, my ancestor Tara was living in the homeland which was made our home by the ancestor of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, that is of a single tribe amongst my people of Northland, of Te P\u0113whairangi. Consequently, in order to connect the genealogies of this person standing here to Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, and to preserve it on the walls of our house. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ETurning to you the ancestor, my paramount chief, Tumu. Firstly, I acknowledge you for the vast work you have carried out to support matters in the homeland of Te P\u0113whairangi. For any number of years, you have sat on the management board of the land at Waitangi. The place where my elders, my ancestors, signed the Treaty of Waitangi. I both acknowledge and mourn. I mourn in the knowledge that you will disappear from our shared home of Te P\u0113whairangi. And so, and so it is from me to you in peace and with affectionate thanks from the home people, to you my paramount chief, greetings. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWell then, to all of you the many faces of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, seeing a face brings back memories. With great consideration for the many deceased of the time, from throughout the years and throughout the months and throughout the weeks which have passed. Those who have gone to become stars, they who shouldered this matter, they have been brought in by many of the speakers of this office today, around the history pertaining to the violations of the Treaty of Waitangi to you of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa. And so I acknowledge them, I mourn for them. Go, go, I return the focus of my speech to you my chiefs. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EYes, I support the greetings of the Minister the Hon Andrew Little in his rowing of the committee of the House which changed some aspects of the bill, to correct some aspects within the bill, so that you of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa would be distinct within the third reading. And so those corrections are a good thing, supported by the most, that is, by the House on this day. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI support his acknowledgments to the old Minister the Hon Christopher Finlayson and my elder brother Rino Tirikatene, and he is the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. There he is, the person in front of him, Nuk Korako. I acknowledge the officials and all the people who have supported this matter. My chiefs you can see that my time is nearly over. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThe member Nuk Korako said to me, \u201CThis is the end.\u201D What I say to you is no, to the contrary this is the beginning. We have come to the time that the Government has apologised to you, and it has been arranged within the bill that a large sum of money, the return of places from your homeland to you. I unequivocally support that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EAnd so the main thing is the tomorrow for Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa is in your hands. Nothing matters beyond that. I saw the children, the grandchildren, running around here, calling out in our House. The hope is that the deeds achieved by us today, there is the well-being for the descendants being nurtured for tomorrow. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EAnd so, my chiefs, the saying is apt. May God care for you and protect you on your journey homewards. Greetings to you; greetings to you Madam Deputy Speaker, I support this bill.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022 data-id=\u00229d335747768b402d9089493786e39278\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229d335747768b402d9089493786e39278\u0022\u003ERINO TIRIKATENE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Tonga):\u003C/span\u003E A kororia, hariruia ki a Ihowa, ng\u0101 mano, matua, tama, wairua tapu, me ng\u0101 anahera pono me te m\u0101ngai hei tautoko mai ai, \u0101ia nei, ake nei \u0101e. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ET\u0113n\u0101 koutou aku rangatira, Te Ariki T\u0101 Tumu te Heuheu, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou ng\u0101 hap\u016B maha kua tau mai nei i Te Whare P\u0101remata. T\u0113nei r\u0101 nui whakahirahira, n\u014D koutou t\u0113nei r\u0101, n\u014D te, n\u014D koutou t\u0113nei kaupapa. \u0100e, ka mihi atu ki a r\u0101tou ng\u0101 mate huhua o te w\u0101. Haere koutou, hoki mai ki a t\u0101tou te kanohi ora e pai nei, huri rauna i Te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[Glory and halleluiah to Jehovah, the myriad hosts, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and the faithful angels and the orator to support us, now and forever, yes. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EGreetings to you my chiefs, the paramount chief Sir Tumu te Heuheu, I greet you. Greetings to you Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, greetings to you the many subtribes who have alighted here at Parliament. This important day, this is your day, from the, this is your matter. Yes, I acknowledge all the many deceased of this time. Go, and returning to us the living gathered here, right around the House, greetings, greetings, greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s a true delight for me to stand and tautoko in support of this very historic bill for settling the Treaty claims for Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa. I know my time is short, and when it comes to third readings, it\u2019s really all about acknowledging the iwi and the hap\u016B and the people who have travelled, because this bill is about them and it\u2019s for them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge especially the fact that this settlement is about addressing cultural redress for Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2014predominantly. Also, I want to acknowledge Te Kotahitanga o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, who have, from the outset, ensured that this settlement is about mana \u0101-hap\u016B. I want to acknowledge all of the 26 hap\u016B that make up Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa that are recorded in the deed of settlement, because these are special days and I do always like to acknowledge those individual hap\u016B.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI\u2019ve got three minutes, so I want to go through all 26\u2014I want to get them out, and I want to acknowledge all of those hap\u016B. So I want to acknowledge: Ng\u0101ti H\u0101, Ng\u0101ti Hikairo, Ng\u0101ti Hine, Ng\u0101ti Hinemihi, Ng\u0101ti Hinerau, Ng\u0101ti Hineure, Ng\u0101ti Kurauia, Ng\u0101ti Manunui, Ng\u0101ti Moekino, Ng\u0101ti Parekaawa, Ng\u0101ti Rauhoto, Ng\u0101ti Rongomai, Ng\u0101ti Ruingarangi, Ng\u0101ti Tarakaiahi, Ng\u0101ti Te Kohera, Ng\u0101ti Te Maunga, Ng\u0101ti Te Rangiita, Ng\u0101ti Te Urunga, Ng\u0101ti Turangitukua, Ng\u0101ti Turumakina, Ng\u0101ti Tutemohuta, Ng\u0101ti Tutetawh\u0101, Ng\u0101ti Waewae, Ng\u0101ti Wairangi, Ng\u0101ti Wheoro, and Te Kapa o Te Rangiita. So I want to acknowledge all of those hap\u016B, and I\u2019m pleased that they\u2019ll be recorded for all time in the records of this House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThis is a significant day. It was an honour to chair the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee as we examined this bill, as we travelled to Taup\u014D. We heard from all of the submitters. As was mentioned in the second reading, we weren\u2019t able to get the perfect outcome on every individual mamae, but we definitely did our best as a committee, working within the constraints of what we do as a committee, to hear, to acknowledge, and to do the mahi that we did. I\u2019m very proud that we have come to this momentous day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI lastly want to acknowledge T\u0101 Tumu te Heuheu for his leadership and example that he has set. When I think of T\u016Bwharetoa, I think of that great man and all of his illustrious forebears and the wonderful people who make up this mighty tribe\u2014the fifth-largest tribe in Aotearoa. I just want to acknowledge them today. I also want to acknowledge, because it\u2019s for all in the uri, Hunters Rugby League and my dear friend up there from Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa. It\u2019s for everybody, and I commend this bill to the House. Kia ora t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022 data-id=\u002222b1ec1d9033402fb5bf3591770eadf2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002222b1ec1d9033402fb5bf3591770eadf2\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (National):\u003C/span\u003E The trouble with Mr Tirikatene is that he\u2019s a skite. I\u2019m not going to go through all the hap\u016B, but I am going to welcome the various representatives of T\u016Bwharetoa here today and thank them for coming to this third reading speech. Can I acknowledge the negotiators: my old friend Mr Isles, who was the negotiator for the Crown; and T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s negotiator, Sir Michael Cullen. I\u2019m very pleased that he\u2019s interrupted all his work on developing a capital gains tax to come to the gallery today to witness this very, very important occasion. Can I also acknowledge Sir Tumu and our very old\u2014not in that sense, but old and dear\u2014friend Georgina, who\u2019s here today. It\u2019s lovely to see her here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003ECan I begin by thanking the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations for his very kind comments about me. I\u2019m really pleased, as I said in the committee stage, that we sorted out that issue that gave rise to the Supplementary Order Paper, and I think he dealt with that in a very clever way, and I also thank the officials for that. I also thank Mr Henare for his kind words. Frankly, I don\u2019t deserve any kind words from Mr Henare, because I\u2019ve been in the media this week saying he\u2019s the person who needs to go back to Ng\u0101puhi to take leadership because he\u2019s probably the only person who could do it. Anyone who says that about anyone in Ng\u0101puhi deserves undying contempt, but thank you very much for what you said. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThis is my second to last speech in this House, my final speech on a\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226d56271ebe134e078c016402467b61b5\u0022\u003EHon Ruth Dyson\u003C/span\u003E: Change your mind.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a0d02681385a432a968ea79287edd04b\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON\u003C/span\u003E: No, it\u2019s too late, Ruth; I\u2019m off. There are some comments that I want to make\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002207ec231e095b456d886f8b8878ce93bd\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I would say use the full names.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bcf885061eb4418ab9b6d6713fe3f332\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014and I\u2019m sure you\u2019re going to give me a great deal of latitude.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe first is on overlapping claims. T\u016Bwharetoa is, in many respects, sort of like the Poland of M\u0101oridom: it\u2019s surrounded by other large and strong iwi. Dealing with overlapping claims has been a hugely important matter, and I want to congratulate the iwi for the way in which it\u2019s dealt with overlapping claims negotiations, bearing in mind that they\u2019ve had some wonderful people to deal with: Vanessa Eparaima and the team from Ng\u0101ti Raukawa are always great to deal with; Tiwha Bell from Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto, always very generous in spirit when it came to overlapping claims; and, of course, Ng\u0101ti Rangi, Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa ki Kawerau, and M\u014Dkai P\u0101tea, who are yet to get into negotiations, although they can\u2019t be far off. But I really congratulate everyone for the way in which these very difficult issues have been dealt with in this negotiation. As I\u2019ve said before, Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto have been so generous over the years, and the Hon Nanaia Mahuta will agree with me. They\u2019ve been so good over the years. I cannot wait till they have their day in the sun and achieve their settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe way in which these overlapping claims have been dealt with can be distinguished from other overlapping claims. It\u2019s with a heavy heart that I\u2019m going to be leaving this place knowing that on the Order Paper, items 23 and 24 are the Ng\u0101i Te Rangi and Ng\u0101 P\u014Dtiki Claims Settlement Bill and the Tauranga Moana Iwi Collective Redress and Ng\u0101 Hap\u016B o Ng\u0101ti Ranginui Claims Settlement Bill. These have been very intense overlapping claims. Of course, Hauraki went to the tribunal to demand a seat on the Tauranga Moana body, and we followed the findings of the tribunal, and now the other side are off to the tribunal to have a go at the Crown as a result of the actions of Mr Little in signing an agreement. So it\u2019s very hard to win in the tribunal, but the fact of the matter is these overlapping claims can be very, very difficult, and I do say to Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa and its neighbours how very, very well they have dealt with this issue.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe negotiations\u2014this is my second point\u2014also dealt with Landcorp farms. Frankly, when dealing with Landcorp farms, I think it\u2019s fair to say it is one of the most aggravating exercises any Minister of Treaty negotiations can be involved in. One tries to deal with the issue by hoping to appoint reliable people to the board of Landcorp, but, as I\u2019ve said to people before, it\u2019s the old mafia slogan: you can buy someone, but how long do they stay bought? In the case of people who are appointed to the board of Landcorp, it\u2019s about two minutes, and then they sort of believe all the Landcorp rhetoric that this is a splendid State-owned enterprise that has tremendous returns for the Crown, when it\u2019s all garbage\u2014of course they don\u2019t.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe best thing that could be done with Landcorp farms\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cecfdd6de22443a38e5404ddb4ea2d07\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Come back to the bill. Can you come back to the bill?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c55d81d4207d48aabcd6f434c5ecf301\u0022\u003EHon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON\u003C/span\u003E: No, no\u2014this is my second to last speech, and I\u2019m going to get it out before I go. The best thing we could do with Landcorp is flog off all the farms to the iwi. Mr Jones, I\u2019m sure, agrees with every sentiment there, and I hope he will lead the charge in that regard, because this negotiation was no different from, for example, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu ki Wairarapa. The negotiations are long and tortuous trying to get an agreement on price. Frankly, I\u2019ve said all I want to say about Landcorp. It\u2019s hopeless.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThe third point I want to make concerns clauses 184 and 185 of the legislation. Clause 184 will provide for Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa to have membership of the Rangitaiki River Forum. This forum was established many years ago, I think, when the Ng\u0101ti Whare or the Ng\u0101ti Manawa legislation was passed. It\u2019s a hugely important body, and it\u2019s going to give the iwi the chance to have an important say in the way in which that river\u2014which, of course, you know flows through your particular constituency, Madam Deputy Speaker\u2014is going to be managed, and so I\u2019m delighted that yet another body joins that forum.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EImportantly, clause 185 deals with the Hawke\u2019s Bay Regional Planning Committee. Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa are ubiquitous. They\u2019re everywhere, and they also are members of this body. This was the body devised by Dame Fran Wilde for the Hawke\u2019s Bay, and, of course, Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa have an important role to play on that, and I wish them well. Having iwi involved in the clean-up of our iconic rivers is extremely important, and they have a massive contribution to make.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EOthers have spoken about other details of the bill. They\u2019re the points I wanted to mention. I want to close by referring to the future. We\u2019re going to have\u2014not me, because I\u2019m washed up and out of here, but there will be a negotiation in the future to deal with national parks, and John Wood started that. I think Jim Bolger was also involved. That will involve all the iwi around the mountain, and I\u2019m sure that is going to be a very successful negotiation and it will bring in other iwi like Ng\u0101ti Rangi and M\u014Dkai P\u0101tea and others. I wish Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa all the best for that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002241146229-4d11-415b-a4ac-f4e2b923e95d\u0022\u003EThere will be other issues that are going to come up in the future. Water is on the horizon. If we deal with these issues as a country in a positive and in a non-emotional way, there\u2019s a way through all these issues, and we don\u2019t need to get overly excited. I can say that because I\u2019m going! Can I simply finish by extending my very warm wishes to Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa. This was a really enjoyable negotiation with wonderful people who have made a fantastic contribution to this country. I\u2019m sure that the future is theirs, and so, with those words, I commend the bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u0022014ddc829dd6413380f3102eed8c3a30\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022014ddc829dd6413380f3102eed8c3a30\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (Minister of Forestry): \u003C/span\u003ETe Reo M\u0101ori i te tuatahi. Taup\u014D-nui-a-Tia, ng\u0101 maunga huratau Tongariro, Ng\u0101uruhoe, ka t\u016B atu ki a Ruapehu, T\u016Bwharetoa iwi, Te Heuheu tangata, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou ka tat\u016B mai ki roto i t\u0113nei Whare whakaharahara, whakahirahira i t\u0113nei r\u0101 i whakaritea hei whakatutuki m\u0101 m\u0101tou ng\u0101tahi me koutou i \u0113nei nawe, ko te hia r\u0101 nei roa e t\u0101rewa ana ki waenga tonu i a koutou ko te Karauna. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ETe wahanga ki te hunga kua whet\u016Brangitia. Taku t\u016Branga mutunga n\u0101ku an\u014D i mihi atu ki ng\u0101 rangatira p\u0113r\u0101 i a Pat Hura m\u0101, n\u0101ku an\u014D i mihi atu ki a Patsy, ki ng\u0101 kaum\u0101tua i m\u014Dhio ai ahau i roto i te tamariki ki te kura i Tipene. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira e kara, e Tumu, t\u0113nei ahau te t\u0101pae nei te ingoa o t\u014D p\u0101p\u0101 i te aroaro o te motu waenga tonu i a t\u0101tou i raro i te tuanui o t\u0113nei Whare. T\u014D p\u0101p\u0101 n\u0101na te iwi M\u0101ori i whakakotahi i t\u014Dna w\u0101. Te kaum\u0101tua n\u0101na a Te \u0100tairangikahu i tautoko hei tuara m\u014Dna, n\u0101 reira r\u0101tou ki a r\u0101tou, t\u0101tou ki a t\u0101tou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[The M\u0101ori language to start with. Taup\u014D-nui-a-Tia, the surrounding mountains of Tongariro, Ng\u0101uruhoe, and right up to Ruapehu, the tribe of T\u016Bwharetoa, Te Heuheu people, greetings to you all who have arrived at this marvellous House, this important House on this day which has been organised for us and you to jointly address these grievances, they have been unresolved for a very long time between you and the Crown. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThe part for the people who have become deceased. In my last stand I acknowledged the chiefs such as Pat Hura and others, I also acknowledged Patsy, and the elders whom I knew amongst the children at St Stephen\u2019s School. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ETherefore friend, Tumu, I present the name of your father in the presence of the country amongst those of us who are under the ridgepole of this House. Your father, who united the M\u0101ori tribes in his time. The elder who supported Te \u0100tairangikahu and was a backbone for her, therefore let the departed remain with each other, and us living be with each other, greetings, greetings, thrice greetings.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EIn our M\u0101ori language, I acknowledged a number of the people who have gone on, but in particular, I acknowledge te ariki, the paramount chief of T\u016Bwharetoa, Tumu te Heuheu, and recite the name of his father, because 100 years ago, there was a te Heuheu in this Parliament. A hundred years ago, T\u016Breiti was a member of the Legislative Council. It was during that period of time, after he had worked with Taiaroa of the Ng\u0101i Tahu to assemble a group and to drive forward the notion of a Kotahitanga movement, that he eventually took up the position of being in the Legislative Council. Oh that he were here today to hear the speeches and to witness in 100 years the distance that ordinary Kiwis, politicians, professionals, and those who make up our increasingly diverse community\u2014what we have grown into.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EOf course, it\u2019s virtually 150 years ago that what is regarded as the final incident of the so-called M\u0101ori Land Wars took place at Te P\u014Drere, where Te Kooti escaped wounded but the chief of T\u016Bwharetoa was wrongfully arrested for being perceived as having offered shelter and offered assistance to that redoubtable warrior chief of the M\u0101ori world Te Kooti Rikirangi. It was during the Second World War that one of the most famous cases pertaining to our Treaty of Waitangi took place at the Privy Council, between the paramount chief te Heuheu of that time and the Aotea District Maori Land Board. That is when the Privy Council established the dictum that, unless the Treaty of Waitangi was incorporated into actual municipal domestic legislation in New Zealand, it had no status. So we are talking about leaders and a body of our M\u0101ori tribal community that, in many respects, have been at the forefront of various attempts to bridge the gap between the colonial powers of that time, creating a rallying point for M\u0101ori endeavour. So it\u2019s with a great deal of pleasure, on behalf of my leader and my colleagues from all across the House, to stand and acknowledge what has been achieved today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EWhat has been said in our M\u0101ori language is that what we do today creates the platform to move forward. The quantum, the land, the resources are an important endowment, but I think it\u2019s fair to say that, because these settlements go to the actual foundational influences of what makes up New Zealand, the Crown, represented by that historic figure Queen Victoria, and the rangatira, wearing the koka and holding the hani, as reflective of that original partnership. So we stand very proud today alongside not only T\u016Bwharetoa but the Ministers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI do want to acknowledge Minister Christopher Finlayson. He has had a tremendous period of advocacy, leadership, and toil in this space. Of course, there will be some who will think back on that time and think, \u201CDid New Zealand do too much and pander to too many of the aspirations of iwi?\u201D No, they didn\u2019t. Whoever the Minister is holding this role, we are stewards for our broader community, but we also seek to right the wrongs of the past. As he goes forward into a private life\u2014that is very good; we will no longer have to tolerate his sarcasm in this House, but I have to say, it\u2019s been what we say in M\u0101ori a type of \u201Creo kawa\u201D: a provocative sort of language\u2014I only hope that when he journeys around Aotearoa and has his holidays, they are closer to Ng\u0101i Tahu and T\u016Bhoe. For God\u2019s sake, don\u2019t go to Ng\u0101puhi!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ETo the officials who have given of their time, to the P\u0101keh\u0101 professionals who have also provided leadership in bringing the kaupapa to this particular point, this is a part of New Zealand where there genuinely were sacrifices given, not the least of which is when te Heuheu responded to Grace that one way forward was to gift the maunga and then they would remain as a permanent contribution and a permanent taonga. This is also the area where our M\u0101ori soldiers came back to from the First World War. It was te Heuheu and T\u014Dpia and K\u012Bngi who provided land, heading over towards the Ruahine, as redevelopment settlement farms for our men coming back from the First World War. Now, a cynic might say there was so much empty space that it was a natural thing to do, but the reality is that history records that not only have the people of this area provided a great rallying point for our own people but they have provided, on a host of occasions, very generous gestures, and they should be recited on this day, as a small part of what was lost is restored back into the care of the iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EE kore w\u0113nei mihi \u0101ku e koni atu e kara, e Tumu, atu i t\u0113nei. Aha, tautoko ana nei i te k\u014Drero a taku tamaiti a Peeni, kei kon\u0101 ng\u0101 k\u014Drero i waenga tonu i a m\u0101tou e koutou m\u014D te w\u0101 i a T\u0101mati Waka Nene, m\u014D te w\u0101 i a Te Wera Hauraki, waiho w\u0113n\u0101 hei take k\u014Drerotanga m\u0101 t\u0101ua ki runga i \u014D t\u0101ua marae. I t\u0113nei r\u0101 ko te reo t\u0113nei o te kait\u014Drangap\u016B he mihi atu ki a koutou, he mihi atu ki ng\u0101 Minita, n\u014D reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou, kia ora t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[These acknowledgments of mine won\u2019t be more than this my friend, Tumu. And I support the speech by my nephew Peeni, the narratives are indeed still amongst us for you about you at the time of T\u0101mati Waka Nene, the time of Te Wera Hauraki, leave these as topics of conversation for the two of us on our marae. Today this is the voice of the politician greeting you all, I acknowledge the Ministers, therefore greetings, greetings, greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022 data-id=\u0022e1860f8f00b148cbb6f54400c7335d20\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e1860f8f00b148cbb6f54400c7335d20\u0022\u003EJO HAYES (National):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora, e ng\u0101 maunga Ruapehu, Ng\u0101uruhoe, Tongariro, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E te moana, Taup\u014D, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, e rau rangatira m\u0101 o te iwi o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Nau mai haere mai ki t\u0113nei Whare P\u0101remata i te r\u0101 whakahirahira. Kia ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E[Greetings to the mountains of Ruapehu, Ng\u0101uruhoe, and Tongariro, I greet you. To the lake, Taup\u014D, greetings, my esteemed elders from the tribe of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, greetings to you. Welcome to Parliament on this important day. Thank you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI am truly blessed to be standing here\u2014honoured, in fact, to be standing here\u2014to take this call in the third and final reading of the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Claims Settlement Bill. I want to acknowledge the leadership of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, specifically Te Arikinui Tumu te Heuheu, and our dear friend and colleague Dame Georgina te Heuheu, and also Sir Michael Cullen sitting up in the gallery today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the many hands that have made this possible today: the negotiators, both on the iwi side and the Crown side, and all of you in the gallery today. You all helped in getting this bill to this place today, and I want to thank you and acknowledge you, and I pay my respects to you all. I know that once this time is over and the bill reaches its Royal assent, then wh\u0101nau mokopuna will be able to add to the economic wealth of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, and really, at the end of the day, this is about the future of the mokopuna of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI too want to add my acknowledgments to the Hon Chris Finlayson. I will miss him. He has got such a big brain on his little body, and I have learnt so much from him. I will miss the way that he does his debates in this House. So, yes, without any further ado, I just want to pay respect to the Hon Chris Finlayson.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EFinally, I do want to acknowledge the chair of our M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, Rino Tirikatene. He has worked tirelessly on completing this bill as our new chair, and I also want to acknowledge Nuk Korako, my colleague who chaired the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee when we started out on this journey with Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, and also the other select committee members as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EWe can\u2019t do this stuff without the kaimahi in behind us: the clerks, the advisers, the Parliamentary Counsel Office\u2014all of them. They\u2019ve all worked really hard. We had quite a lot of demands on them, and they came through, and we sent them back and they kept coming through. So I do want to acknowledge them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI remember the day that we travelled to Taup\u014D for the hearings. We were all very excited coming up to Taup\u014D to do this, and I also remember the numbers of people that actually supported this bill. There were those that kind of sat on the fence and had neither way and those who were definite that they weren\u2019t supporting the bill, and it\u2019s been very good that we\u2019ve been able to work through these processes to actually get to today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI think that the actual sweetness of this whole process of claims settlement is actually in the submission process and listening to the k\u014Drero that comes from each and every one of you and your views on what you think about the bill, whether it resonates with you or whether it doesn\u2019t resonate with you, and this third reading actually is a culmination of all of those views that you have had over the time that this bill has been traversing its way through the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI just want to also acknowledge the past of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa. Your ancestor T\u016Bwharetoa ki Te Aup\u014Duri\u2014he was, from what I have read, a very strong warrior. I think that also, through his ancestry back through the captain of the waka of Te Arawa\u2014the priest, I think\u2014he was able to actually guide Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa through the many ups and downs that you faced.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EEvery time I get up and speak here about our Treaty claims, I\u2019m always saddened by the way that our wh\u0101nau was treated, and for no reason. And I\u2019m always saddened by the fact that the Crown, through their so-called understandings of what we meant, as to what they meant, always misunderstood and we always ended up on the sticky end of the stick, and we were always treated this badly. So many times I\u2019ve stood here and almost felt like I\u2019ve wanted to cry because of the treatment, but today is really no time for crying. Today is a celebration, and, as I said, I\u2019m humbled to be part and parcel of that and to put into the Hansard the history of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa and what has happened here over time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI think that even though there\u2019s been some areas, as the Hon Chris Finlayson talked about, that we weren\u2019t able to progress forward, I think that post-settlement there will be opportunities, especially around the Landcorp farms. I mean, I totally agree with the Hon Christopher Finlayson that those Landcorp farms should go back to iwi to let iwi have a good go at it. It\u2019s your land and this is what we should be doing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EIn closing, I just want to say to Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa: congratulations. I want to wish you all a safe and happy Christmas with your wh\u0101nau. I want to make sure that you do have a good travel home. You\u2019ve all travelled a long way today. I was talking to one of your rangatahi in the wharepaku, and I said to her, \u201CYou look a little bit flustered.\u201D, and she said, \u201CI\u2019ve been up since 6 o\u2019clock, and my door got knocked on at 5 o\u2019clock.\u201D, and I said, \u201COh well, at least you\u2019re here.\u201D The most important thing is to be here. Without any further ado, if you\u2019re leaving tonight or if you\u2019re leaving tomorrow morning, I wish you all a very safe journey. It is my pleasure to commend this bill to the House. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022 data-id=\u00226f521a351fd44b7289ff22dd21e91c81\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226f521a351fd44b7289ff22dd21e91c81\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Just to advise the House, I understand there\u2019ve been three power cuts in the interpreter booth, and that is why some of you have not been able to hear the interpretation of some of the speeches. I hope it\u2019s fixed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022 data-id=\u002218bd1447abc542998e366f85c12a5855\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002218bd1447abc542998e366f85c12a5855\u0022\u003EMARAMA DAVIDSON (Co-Leader\u2014Green):\u003C/span\u003E E Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa i roto i t\u0113nei Whare P\u0101remata. T\u0113nei rangi pai, rangi rangatira t\u0113nei. \u0100, n\u014D reira kei te mihi ki a koe e Te Ariki T\u0101 Tumu te Heuheu, ki a koe e Dame the Hon Whaea Georgina te Heuheu hoki. Ng\u0101 mihi aroha ki a koutou ng\u0101 uri, ki a koutou katoa ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau, ng\u0101 mokopuna o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa i t\u0113nei r\u0101, kia ora mai t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E[Madam Deputy Speaker, greetings. Greetings to all of us here in this House. This good day, this is an esteemed day. And, therefore I greet you paramount chief Sir Tumu te Heuheu, and to you Dame the Hon Whaea Georgina te Heuheu also. Loving greetings to you the descendants, to all of you the families, the grandchildren of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa today, greetings to all of us.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EKia ora. I\u2019m particularly pleased to stand, at the third reading of the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Claims Settlement Bill, as an uri of Te Roroa e Ng\u0101puhi in the north and Ngati Porou in the East Coast. One of the privileges of being able to go through the House and journey alongside our claims settlement bills is learning about the different rohe around our country that we may not be as familiar with as we are with our own t\u016Brangawaewae.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo, with that, it really is a pleasure to have you here, and we don\u2019t just say that. I was listening to the tangi o ng\u0101 p\u0113p\u0113 earlier before, and that\u2019s a beautiful sound to remind me, actually, that in our mokopuna is the reflection of our t\u016Bpuna. And this is everything about what we are doing today: it talks about who we are as iwi and who we are as tangata whenua, and having the voice and the tangi and the reo of our babies is one of the best backgrounds to be able to help us move through the debate and the k\u014Drero on this bill. And, actually, we like babies in here\u2014so, nau mai, haere mai to every one of you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EAs I said before, I\u2019m learning about this rohe. I haven\u2019t spent lots of time in Lake Taup\u014D, Taup\u014D Moana, the central plateau, and much of the central North Island and Te Araroa regions, and, of course, being the fifth-largest iwi, with approximately 36,000 of you. So that\u2019s helping to get my understanding of who you actually are. Then, of course, in who you are is the strength and the vision that you all represent here as uri in upholding the whakapapa work that was brutally interrupted by colonisation, by the processes that are outlined in the historical summary account in this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EThe whakapapa disruption to your kaitiaki responsibilities over land and water and maunga and mokopuna and economic development and being able to sustain yourselves was brutally, brutally disrupted, and this bill and this day represent part of the journey to try and at least acknowledge what has happened, to try and give some semblance back to Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa to take forward with the best kaha that I know you all will muster. And so I also wanted to acknowledge, actually, TKT\u2014Te Kotahitanga o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2014who are the post-settlement governance entity, because, as we all know, you\u2019ve still got more work to do. TKT still has more work to do particularly\u2014and my colleagues have traversed them quite well today\u2014in some of the unresolved issues that will still need to be progressed outside of this settlement process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI wanted to pick up a lot of what the bill does. A lot of the historical account, which I\u2019ve also traversed in this House in my earlier readings on this bill, has been picked up, so I thought I would pick up particularly on another few key issues that maybe haven\u2019t been traversed as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the concern around Lake Rotokawa Conservation Area in this settlement. I want to acknowledge that there have been many discussions and forums, actually, trying to pull together Ng\u0101ti Tahu - Ng\u0101ti Whaoa and Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa hap\u016B who really wanted to consider having that conservation area in this. I know the Crown has removed Lake Rotokawa Conservation Area from this settlement package, and, because of that, it cannot be included in this bill. And I\u2019m sure those conversations will continue. I was very grateful to have visited Lake Rotokawa with Ng\u0101ti Tahu \u2013 Ng\u0101ti Whaoa\u2014or, as I found out when I realised half way through the day that when they say Tahu-Whaoa, that\u2019s who they\u2019re talking about, and was finally like, \u201COh yes. Right, now I know who that is.\u201D And so I just wanted to acknowledge what that place means for so many people and what has happened, actually, over that colonisation interruption, and how this has happened through a lot of our rohe and overlapping claims around the country. It is hap\u016B in particular who are left with trying to restore the connections over particular pieces of whenua. It\u2019s an ongoing issue. I acknowledge the manaaki that I was shown when I visited that place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EAnother outstanding issue: of course, I do encourage the pursuit of the Motutere Recreation Reserve as redress, especially when I hear that, apparently, even the Taup\u014D District Council supports the concept of returning that reserve as redress. I do encourage that discussion to be continued, but what I really wanted to have a chat about was the kaitiaki work that I know will improve.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI completely agree with Mr Finlayson when he says\u2014and the Greens have said this often\u2014that the most enduring conservation plan we can have for Aotearoa, for our rivers, our soil, our maunga, our trees, our indigenous species is to give it back to iwi. I would go further and say we should just give it all back\u2014not just Waititi Land Corp.; just all of it. Just give it all back\u2014that absolutely would be the most enduring conservation plan that this country could have, because our maunga are our living rangatira, as the Minister referred to in the beginning. When they are our living rangatira, when the maunga really is our koro, and when the river really is our kuia, then we are accountable to her and to him. We are accountable to keep him well and to keep her well. We are accountable to think about everything we put in our soils and our waters and what it will be doing to the mauri and the well-being of our rangatira and our whakapapa and, therefore, what it will be doing to their mokopuna. So that is why I completely uphold that returning all the stolen stuff back to its rightful owners is one of the most enduring things.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI haven\u2019t been able to spend a lot of time\u2014sadly, I was unable to attend the hearings in Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa that particular day, and I read with deep, profound interest the submissions and the report back from my colleagues on te Komiti Whiriwhiri Take M\u0101ori about how that amazing day went. I might take up Gina Rangi, who would like to take me up to visit your maunga in a more Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa - centred way\u2014and if that was supposed to be a secret, well, it\u2019s not any more. But I think being able to really ground myself in your history, your t\u016Bpuna, and your rangatira\u2014oh yeah, that tuku was never supposed to be a gifting over. So I\u2019m glad we\u2019ve established that really well\u2014again, you know, give our koro back.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EThe authority was disrupted and interrupted, and returning taonga and affirming the kaitiaki responsibilities for hap\u016B and iwi over water, maunga, r\u0101kau, lakes, etc. is a really good start. I know that you all will do the best with what has been delivered. I know you have all worked so hard over generations, actually, to try to regain some justice. I can\u2019t wait for the day when New Zealanders are enlightened enough to understand that giving everything back would be good for all of us, and that\u2019s the vision that I hope for.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo, with that, ng\u0101 mihi aroha, ng\u0101 mihi hohonu ki a koutou katoa, ng\u0101 uri katoa o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, i \u014D koutou whakapapa, ng\u0101 rangatira, ng\u0101 rangatira, ng\u0101 maunga, ng\u0101 awa, ng\u0101 mea katoa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa [loving greetings, deep greetings to you all, all the descendants of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, your genealogies, the chiefs, the chiefs, the mountains, the rivers, and everything else, greetings, greetings, thrice greetings].\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022 data-id=\u0022a0ef4a4df8ab45c49d35b72dcc1bfad2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a0ef4a4df8ab45c49d35b72dcc1bfad2\u0022\u003EHARETE HIPANGO (National\u2014Whanganui):\u003C/span\u003E Ko Tongariro te maunga, ko Taup\u014D te moana, ko T\u016Bwharetoa te iwi, ko Te Heuheu te tangata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E[Tongariro is the mountain, Taup\u014D is the lake, T\u016Bwharetoa is the tribe, Te Heuheu is the person.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EAs the elected member of Parliament for Whanganui, as uri of Whanganui, mokopuna of Hipango, and as a member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, today I stand in immense humility and also significant privilege to be able to greet and welcome you to this Whare, to this House of Representatives. For this day and in this moment are whare miere\u2014honeyed with this third and final reading of the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Claims Settlement Bill as it makes its assent and ascent into law. The law of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa is soon to be the law of the land between the Crown and the peoples, te iwi o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa. Mihi maioha koutou ng\u0101 iwi, ng\u0101 hap\u016B, ng\u0101 uri. Nau mai, haere mai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E[Affectionate greetings to you the tribes, the subtribes and descendants. Welcome.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI acknowledge and I congratulate the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations and also the former Minister, my colleague the Hon Christopher Finlayson, who has spoken to the House on his last Treaty settlement bill today, and for him to do so on this bill is so significant. E te tuahine Louisa, ng\u0101 mihi nui.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI recount the apology that was conveyed by the Crown. In brief, it was stated that it was extended: \u201CThrough this settlement, and with this apology, the Crown recognises how your resilience as hap\u016B and as an iwi depends on your deep connection to the whenua and your desire to protect it. The Crown looks forward to building an enduring relationship of mutual trust and co-operation with Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa based on te Tiriti o Waitangi \u2026 and its principles, and to support you in the revitalisation of ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa.\u201D E T\u0101 Tumu me the Hon Dame Georgina te Heuheu, ng\u0101 mihi maioha ki a k\u014Drua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E[Sir Tumu and the Hon Dame Georgina te Heuheu, affectionate greetings to you both.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI further continue my speech, referencing my concluding words in the second reading of this bill before the House, quoting T\u0101 Tumu, with your words spoken at the signing of the deed of settlement on 10 July 2017 on the shores of Lake Taup\u014D, within the secure embrace of Waitetoko Marae: \u201CI firmly believe that this settlement provides a solid foundation for Ng\u0101ti Tuwharetoa to set its own course to a strong future. We have formed a powerful consensus around our vision and aspirations \u2026 To move forward, we must be precise in our intent and bold, yet humble in our actions.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa are just now at the beginning of being present in that future: to be precise and bold, innovative, and brave. Today is a day of circumspection, a day to reflect on the journey past to the present, and, importantly now, to embrace and embark upon the yonder and beyond. The time of reflection on the ebbs, the flows, the turbulence, the currents, the losses, the woes, the griefs, the wrongs, the injustice, and the mamae that has been. And \u2019tis now with anticipation and excitement to look forward and to embrace with hope and expectation all that soon to be filled and fulfilled potential and opportunity to flow from this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EToday is the day of deliverance. As is known, Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa are a tribal collective peoples of approximately 36,000 members, comprised of 26 hap\u016B\u2014the fifth-largest tribal entity in Aotearoa, bounded and bordered by no less than 20 other groups with overlapping tribal interests. This leg of this settlement journey began in terms of the legal discussions and negotiations in 2003 with the establishment of the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Hap\u016B Forum Trust, and in March 2015 the agreement in principle was signed with the deed of settlement in July last year. And here we are now in this moment, this being a day of deliverance by way of this bill being made and passed into law. However, the passage of the law of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, the kotahitanga, in moving forward and into the future with aspirations of its people and its hap\u016B as has been depicted in the three pou: Tongariro te maunga, te mat\u0101puna o te wai, te ahi k\u0101 mau, T\u016Bwharetoa te iwi, T\u016Bwharetoa te hap\u016B [Tongariro the mountain, the source of the water, the fires of continuous occupation, T\u016Bwharetoa the tribe, T\u016Bwharetoa the subtribe].\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003ERedress has been spoken about, and it is known what the financial redress is and the cultural and fiscal redress, but also the non-physical elements as are detailed in the bill. Noting that the Crown does not, nor could it ever, fully compensate for the wrongs of the past, the settlement and passage of this bill provides a fundamental foundation to help contribute towards your stronger economic, cultural, and prosperous future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EThe M\u0101ori Affairs Committee deliberated over 36 submissions with an additional 44, hearing the k\u014Drero of 29 submitters at Taup\u014D. As a result, on reflection, and with considerable angst at times, the committee recommended, as has been noted in the Supplementary Order Paper and also clause 14 of the bill, for the inclusion of the Wai 24 claims. So there was consternation. There was anguish in relation to discussions to do with the Lake Rotokawa Conservation Area, the Motutere Recreation Reserve, and, as my colleague Christopher Finlayson mentioned, the Waiti\u012B Landcorp farm. However, \u014Cnekeneke was able to be addressed by way of a Supplementary Order Paper to secure your interests in time to come.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EIn concluding, I note that today is one of celebration. As I was walking to the House this afternoon, I noted a gathering of graduate students outside. I noted their expressions, and that they were gathered with the support of their wh\u0101nau and their people. I observed a sense of reflection, a sense of relief, the dedication of their hard toil and turmoil, and, now, the delight, and, of course, the excitement going into the exploration of the future adventure for them, fulfilling their dreams, their hopes, their desires, and their potential\u2014so similar to the gathering and your intent and purpose today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003ESo having sat once where Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa now sit when I joined with my people of Whanganui for the passage of Te Awa Tupua (Whanganui River Claims Settlement) Act into legislation, I sense the overwhelming mix of emotions and I sense the intensity and depth of hope. So may I say that it is with a heart filled with hope, eyes welled with tears, and thoughts flowing for those departed, and now for all of we here present who are imparted with the hope and the opportunity to realise all that is to be gained from what is secured under your bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EKei a koutou te iwi o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa i te t\u012Bmatatanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E[To you the tribe of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa at the beginning.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI commend the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa Claims Settlement Bill, on its final reading and passage, to the House. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022a36c2a5347394671af0dc9b1918762a0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a36c2a5347394671af0dc9b1918762a0\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Adrian Rurawhe)\u003C/span\u003E: This is a split call. I call the Hon Nanaia Mahuta\u2014five minutes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022 data-id=\u002280cfd385d99a416888c1daae1493d9f1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002280cfd385d99a416888c1daae1493d9f1\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Minister for M\u0101ori Development):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113nei ka t\u016B ake ka titiro atu ki a koe e Te Ariki, T\u0101 Tumu, koutou ng\u0101 mana, ng\u0101 ihi, ng\u0101 wehi o ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, ka nui te mihi atu ki a koutou i t\u0113nei w\u0101. Ka rere taku mane ki te tihi o Taupiri, ka t\u014Dpiki t\u014Dna haere, ka titiro atu r\u0101 ki Pirongia, ar\u0101, ki Kakepuku te w\u0101hi i m\u014Dteatea ai a Puhiwahine m\u014D t\u014Dna hoa p\u016Bmau a Toko. Ka rere t\u014Dna haere ki te tihi o Tongariro, ar\u0101, te w\u0101hi i whakaarohia ai \u0101 t\u0101tou nei m\u0101tou t\u016Bpuna, kia h\u012Bnanga ki uta, h\u012Bnanga ki tai, kia t\u016B te K\u012Bngitanga m\u014D t\u0101tou katoa, ka nui te mihi atu ki a koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EKa whakanikoniko \u0113nei k\u014Drero i runga i te whakaaro o t\u0113nei kaupapa kua takotohia e koutou kei mua i te aroaro o t\u0113nei P\u0101remata. E kore e mutu ng\u0101 whakaaro ki a r\u0101tou e kore i kite i t\u0113nei w\u0101, engari kei reira te wairua o r\u0101tou katoa. Kei reira an\u014D i te hoki i te wairua o ng\u0101 whakaaro i roto i t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 kaupapa, n\u014D reira t\u0113nei te mihi atu ki a koutou, pai m\u0101rire ki a koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[As I stand and look at you paramount chief, Sir Tumu, and you the authorities, the powers and important ones of the subtribes of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, greetings and salutations to you at this time. My bird flies to the top of Taupiri, it climbs up, I look yonder to Pirongia, namely to Kakepuku, the place where Puhiwahine sang a lament for her beloved one, Toko. Its journey flowed on to the tip of Tongariro, namely, the place where our ancestors considered, to raise up from inland and coastal environs, to create the king movement for all of us, many greetings to you all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI have embellished with these words the concept of this matter which has been brought before this Parliament by you. The thoughts of those who are not seen at this time will never cease, however the spirits of them all are there. They are also there with the return of the essence of the thoughts around this matter, therefore this is an acknowledgment of you, blessings on you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI\u2019ll make a brief contribution to support and endorse all of the comments that have been made in this House today as we recognise the significant achievement that has been reached in this settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ENow, my colleague Rino Tirikatene mentioned the 26 hap\u016B and why it was so important, because it was a really challenging time as we observed and understood the path that you took to achieve a settlement with the mandate of hap\u016B. T\u0101 Tumu, you stood clearly behind the will of your people to go down a different road. Even though the Crown process required a large natural grouping, you maintained the integrity of what the people wanted, which was something akin to building and investing in the mana of hap\u016B. That wasn\u2019t an easy road, so we\u2019re not going to understate that here today, but we just recognise that in taking that path, ultimately the future that was envisaged was one that would strengthen the hap\u016B across Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, with a view in mind to building the collective responsibility to the greater aspirations of T\u016Bwharetoa, the iwi. So we recognise that here today. We also recognise that anyone who goes down the path of negotiation knows just how difficult it is. You don\u2019t do it for a good time\u2014that\u2019s for sure.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the negotiators on the Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa side, who, I know, tested officials within the Office of Treaty Settlements time and time again about the parameters of the settlement aspirations within the context of Treaty settlement criteria. If I can share some conversations that I did have when I had another role for Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto, it was an insightful conversation that I had with both Te Ngaehe and Gina about the experience, and be assured that everything came back to where the people were at and what the people wanted, as difficult as the conversations were. Why that mattered to me was because Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto were in the same type of situation. Yes, they understood the collective aspirations of Maniapoto iwi but, actually, where the rubber hit the road in terms of the benefits of the Treaty settlement, it is always intended to benefit the hap\u016B within the Maniapoto context. So grappling with those issues, I think, provided some insights from your experience that undoubtedly helped other iwi who looked to some leadership elsewhere.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EI want to also endorse the comments that were made in terms of the nature of the overlapping claims. Actually, where T\u016Bwharetoa became an exemplar for those within Te Rohe P\u014Dtae was that it was always about relationships\u2014always about relationships and respect\u2014and I can say confidently, from Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto\u2019s side, it was always reinforcing the respectful relationships, because what wasn\u2019t commented on within the context of your historical experience was the nature of Te Rohe P\u014Dtae and the strength of the shelter that T\u016Bwharetoa provided after the land wars. T\u0101whiao came down to the people of T\u016Bwharetoa, to te Heuheu to seek refuge, counsel, and advice after some hardship. So we are here to say the journey hasn\u2019t been easy, the future looks bright, and it\u2019s all up to you now for the next generation. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022 data-id=\u0022b8300c6165b942438a328005a354f3b3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b8300c6165b942438a328005a354f3b3\u0022\u003EIAN McKELVIE (National\u2014Rangit\u012Bkei):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. It is a privilege to be able to speak on these Treaty settlement bills, and the other thing that I think is a great privilege is that, as the previous speaker, Nanaia Mahuta, suggested, it\u2019s very seldom the whole House agrees on everything we do. I think that\u2019s one of the things I really enjoy about the Treaty settlement process\u2014it\u2019s that we get to a point where we agree. And I want to make one other point about the Treaty settlement process for those who go into this negotiation process. When you think about it, you must go in there with huge trepidation, because you\u2019re really negotiating on behalf of every generation that follows you, and that\u2019s the thing that, really, I think is amazing. You\u2019ve got to be pretty brave to do that, and to get to a point where you settle I think is amazing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI too want to warmly welcome all members of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa who\u2019ve come all the way to Wellington today. And believe me, I know how far it is, because I\u2019ve got to be in Taumarunui first thing in the morning, and you can\u2019t fly there. It\u2019s a long way, so I think you\u2019re pretty special. That so many of you have come down here I think is pretty cool.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EAs the Minister Andrew Little and the Hon Chris Finlayson have said\u2014and many others have too\u2014this is a historic day for both the Crown and for T\u016Bwharetoa. There\u2019s an amazing amount of work that goes into these things, and I\u2019m not going to go back in history and talk about too much of the history of this, because that\u2019s been mentioned by so many people today, but I do want to talk about the uniqueness of your place. I think that there\u2019s no other part of New Zealand that\u2019s been invaded or infiltrated by a couple of million, effectively, foreigners every year, who traipse through your territory and the most beautiful part of New Zealand. I was thinking, when Shane Jones was talking before, that it\u2019s a great opportunity for you to go and see him and get a bit of the p\u016Btea he\u2019s handing out around New Zealand and take it back to T\u016Bwharetoa, because he\u2019s clearly got plenty of it. But when you think about the massive tourism industry, which, of course, wasn\u2019t there 100 years ago, there are some significant challenges in your part of New Zealand that are caused by that tourism industry, which is pretty amazing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EI want to talk about one or two other things, too, because you, effectively, supply power to half of the North Island. Not only that, they then introduced a whole lot of fish, which ate the fish that you liked to eat. But the frustrating thing for me about those fish is that they\u2019d be beautiful if we could farm them. We don\u2019t farm them. Let\u2019s get on and farm the fish that live in your place. I think that\u2019d be pretty cool. So there\u2019s some interesting things about you, and the other thing I wanted to particularly mention was the timber industry. If you look at the timber industry of the central North Island, it\u2019s\u2014I could use a fairly strong term but I probably won\u2019t\u2014effectively been raped and pillaged for the first 100 years of our coexistence in New Zealand. It\u2019s not until you see the remnants of that amazing bush left there that you realise how majestic it must\u2019ve been 150 years ago. So there\u2019s some interesting things that I think have happened in your part of New Zealand that probably haven\u2019t impacted on other people to nearly anywhere near the same point.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003EThe Hon Chris Finlayson talked about the overlapping claims, and many of those overlapping claims are right in the area that both our Speaker at the moment, Adrian Rurawhe, and I share a lot of the representation of. And there\u2019s a number of those claims still to be settled, and I think that will be hugely positive and I look forward to the time\u2014and I don\u2019t imagine I\u2019ll see it, but I look forward to the time\u2014when they\u2019re all settled, because I think that\u2019d be pretty amazing. It will make a difference to what happens in our part of the world, and it will be very significant for all of us. So I think that\u2019s the thing that\u2019s really exciting.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6c42c44-3622-4c9c-98b8-793fb5ec15cc\u0022\u003ESo I want to congratulate you on the immense amount of work that\u2019s gone into getting to the point you\u2019ve got to. I want to congratulate you on bringing such a great contingent down to Wellington today, and I think the other special thing about you all coming here is that this place is our place, effectively, and I think it\u2019s so cool that these things are done with so many people from around New Zealand coming into the Parliament to witness it happen. So that\u2019s my lot, and I just want to fully support and endorse the process and hope that we can get a whole lot more of this process done under Minister Little in the next couple of years. Thank you, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022 data-id=\u00222e01d3073cc547b2844fd080391d0847\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222e01d3073cc547b2844fd080391d0847\u0022\u003ELOUISA WALL (Labour\u2014Manurewa):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EMoe mai\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003ENg\u0101 mate o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EI roto i te aroha\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EWhakat\u014D mai\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EI roto\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EE te w\u0101 k\u0101inga\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EKa eke i aku kamo\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003ENg\u0101 wai, roimata\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EAu\u0113, e ng\u0101 mate o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EE t\u016B \u014Dku, \u014Dku nei\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003E[Rest here \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EThe deceased of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EWith love\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EPlant here \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EIn the homeland\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EEmerging from my eyes\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EThe tears, tears\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EAlas, the deceased of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EStand, mine, mine]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EI sing that lament on our behalf, for our wh\u0101nau who aren\u2019t with us today, for our wh\u0101nau across our 26 hap\u016B, for our wh\u0101nau who are part of a collective group who participated in the process that the Crown has enabled since 1975\u2014we had 100 Wai claims. So I sing that proudly because I stand here as an uri of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, incredibly proud of the legacy that our t\u016Bpuna have left us. I acknowledge for all of us our wh\u0101nau who have passed on, but they passed us this legacy of representation, this legacy of actually being staunchly Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EI was thinking about what to say today, and I\u2019ve decided, actually, it\u2019s not really my words that I want to share with us today, and so I found an interesting quote. It was written by Edward Jerningham Wakefield in his book Adventure in New Zealand, and he talks about the king of Taup\u014D. On 1 January 1842, at te Heuheu the Great\u2019s village in Te Rapa, he conducted an interview. At that time, te Heuheu was being besieged by many people who wanted him to sell his land. This is what is quoted in this pukapuka\u2014and I quote:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003E\u201CIf this be your wish \u2026 go back and tell my words to the people who sent you. I am king here, as my fathers were before me, and as King George and his fathers [were] over your country. I have not sold my chieftainship to the Governor, as all the chiefs round the sea-coast have done, nor have I sold my land. I will sell neither. A messenger was here from the Governor to buy the land the other day, and I refused: if you are on the same errand I refuse you too. You White people are numerous and strong; you can easily crush us if you choose, and take possession of that which we will not yield; but here is my right arm, and should thousands of you come, you must make me a slave or kill me before I will give up my authority or my land. When you go, you will say I am\u201D\u2014this is interesting\u2014\u201C[a] big-mouthed [M\u0101ori] like the other M\u0101ori[s] who you have talked to; but I am now telling you that by which I mean to abide. Let your people keep the sea-coast, and leave the interior to us, and our mountain, whose name is sacred to the bones of my father. Do not bring many White people into the interior, who may encroach on our possessions till we become their servants\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003ETe Heuheu did not sign the Treaty. We were incredibly clear that we would not cede anything, that we wanted to be the rangatira of our own lands; we wanted to control our own lives. So, in highlighting those words, I must highlight the words of te ariki o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa T\u0101 Tumu, who said at the signing of the deed of settlement at Waitetoko, on 8 July 2017\u2014I\u2019ll make two quotes\u2014\u201Clet us never forget the remarkable feats of our tupuna, neither can we forget the many who began this journey with us, who though not physically here today, are undoubtedly with us all [in] wairua, within each and every one of us. Let this settlement be a sacred thread that binds us all; that we may look to the health and well-being of our future generations from a platform of consensus and unity. It is a testimony to the strength of our tikanga that Ng\u0101ti Tuwharetoa has never ceded our authority within our rohe, each generation upholding the legacy of Ngatoroirangi and our tupuna.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EI want add to that quote. I\u2019ll add to te Heuheu the Great and actually knowledge you, T\u0101 Tumu, who has led us so valiantly to the point that we are at today. I acknowledge all of our rangatira across our hap\u016B, who have participated in a process that we have controlled. I do want to highlight that, through the Treaty settlement process, we have amazing opportunities before us because, as part of the settlement, we have a relationship with the Department of Conservation, for example; Te Piringa Agreement. We will have opportunities with the Waikato Regional Council and the Taup\u014D District Council through our Te K\u014Dpua agreement. So there are many opportunities yet to be realised, and I think that the foundation that we have and the partnerships that we have and the opportunities that we have are significant. I want to acknowledge all of those rangatira who will be leading us through that process into the future. So kia kaha to our Te Kotahitanga o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa reps. We have much to do, but I know that we have the capacity, we have the intellect, but more than that we have the heart and the legacy, which means we will be creating opportunities for future generations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003EI just want to take the last couple of minutes of my contribution to echo the words of T\u0101 Tumu when he signed the deed of settlement, because it was an acknowledgment, actually, of the process. It was an acknowledgment on that day of Minister Finlayson and Minister Flavell, and I know today he would add Minister Little to that list. It was an acknowledgment of the Crown negotiators, both on the Crown side and on T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s side, and I acknowledge Sir Michael Cullen, who\u2019s here with us today, and the others. It was an acknowledgment of the officials within the Government departments. It was also an acknowledgment of the Crown Forestry Rental Trust.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003ESo, in thanking all of those who have been involved from the negotiation perspective, I would now like to highlight the role of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and I want to specifically acknowledge our chair, Rino Tirikatene, and the members of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. We undertake that work with incredible pride and, in fact, when I first came into this House, I sat next to the Hon Parekura Horomia for three years as a member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. It is the most humbling work that we could ever do, because, in fact, it is our truth and reconciliation process, and it\u2019s an opportunity for us actually to acknowledge what happened in our country, and the fact that many of us were killed. We had land stolen from us and, with our land, we had our culture and our language taken from us, and through colonisation we were supposed to assimilate, but we never did and we never will, because we are strong and we are proud.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b4a597dd-ed8b-42b8-975b-40c6e0cdaee1\u0022\u003ESo the legacy that we must ensure our children get is our language and our culture. My father said to me, \u201CIf I could speak Te Reo, I would have everything.\u201D And it\u2019s interesting. I don\u2019t have Te Reo\u2014it was beaten out of my dad, and he wanted to protect us\u2014but my baby sister does, so I mihi to my little sister, Janice, who\u2019s not here. But the rights of every one of our tamariki and mokopuna going forward is to know our history, to learn our Reo, so that we can continue, I believe, to stand on the shoulders of our ancestors, our t\u016Bpuna, who have brought us to where we are today. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022 data-id=\u0022bdfbfb155028417a9c5272f9567dd492\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bdfbfb155028417a9c5272f9567dd492\u0022\u003EHon MEKA WHAITIRI (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti):\u003C/span\u003E E Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. E ng\u0101 member o Te Whare nei t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. T\u016Bwharetoa mana, T\u016Bwharetoa reo, T\u016Bwharetoa tangata, anei ng\u0101 mihi ki a koutou katoa. Anei ng\u0101 mihi i runga i t\u014D karanga o te piere nei whakahirahira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira he uri ahau o Te Tai R\u0101whiti, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, t\u0113nei te mihi maioha ki a koutou katoa. E Te Ariki Tumu, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, me t\u014D hoa rangatira, Susan, t\u0113n\u0101 k\u014Drua. Dame Georgina t\u0113n\u0101 koe, otir\u0101 \u014Dku rau rangatira m\u0101 t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E[To the Assistant Speaker, greetings to you. To the members of this House, greetings to all of us. T\u016Bwharetoa authorities, T\u016Bwharetoa voices, T\u016Bwharetoa people, here are greetings to you all. Here are greetings because of the call of this significant bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003ETherefore, I am a descendant of the East Coast, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, this is an affectionate greeting to you all. To the paramount chief Tumu, greetings, and your wife, Susan, greetings to you both. Dame Georgina, greetings to you, and to all of you, my chiefly ones, greetings to you all.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EIt is indeed an honour to stand and support this settlement bill of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, so important that so many people wanted to get up and stand to celebrate and acknowledge this special occasion. So can I just please humbly thank the Opposition for allowing me to take a slot so I can stand. Ng\u0101 mihi ki a koutou. Thank you very much.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI thought about sharing some stories of significant people from T\u016Bwharetoa who I\u2019ve had the privilege to work alongside as a way of celebrating this significant day. Of course my colleague here Louisa Wall, whom I\u2019m very proud to share Government benches with, represents T\u016Bwharetoa very well. So I want to mihi to you, Louisa, for all that you stand for and all that you bring to this House, and the way in which you do it. I\u2019m proud to call you a colleague.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EMy predecessor, my mentor, my friend, the Hon Parekura Horomia had a way of creating relationships with people all around the motu. On this special occasion, he said, \u201CWe need to go and see Tumu.\u201D And of course it was with honour that Parekura and I travelled to Taup\u014D, and of course our favourite saying was \u201CWe must get on the boat with Tumu and go fishing.\u201D and that was a code, I believe, for two great men to k\u014Drero\u2014to k\u014Drero. So we went off to Taup\u014D, we got on a boat, and we went out fishing. Unbeknown to us, Tumu hadn\u2019t told the rest of the tribe and we were on the lake for about four hours. There was a flurry of \u201CWhere\u2019s Tumu? Where\u2019s Tumu?\u201D and when we arrived back after catching trout, being fed on the boat, there was a delegation at the port when we got back in Taup\u014D. I\u2019m pretty sure there were some words of \u201CWhere have you been? Where have you been? What have you been up to?\u201D and Tumu\u2019s gracious way was \u201CThat was for me to have and not to share with you.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EMany of our leaders\u2014and I do want to acknowledge not just Parekura, but it\u2019s times like this I remember Timi, and I remember his contribution to his brother and to his people. And like Lou said, it is times like these that you think of these great rangatira who are no longer here with us but who have forged a passage for this very day where we stand in this House to celebrate Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa and their contribution to the nation. I want to stand and acknowledge Parekura. I want to acknowledge Timi, and of course I\u2019ve acknowledged my colleague Louisa. I also acknowledge a colleague by the name of John Bishara, who I worked with under Parekura at the Community Employment Group. So wherever John is, I know he\u2019s made a significant contribution to the people of Aotearoa and I know he comes from these great people. So I want to acknowledge John.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI also want T\u016Bwharetoa to claim the current coach of the Silver Ferns. I do. I know she\u2019s from up north, but she was schooled in Taup\u014D. So I want to acknowledge Noeline Taurua and her beginnings in Taup\u014D. Let\u2019s not forget that. So there may be a few tickets coming T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s way when you remind her about where she grew up and who nurtured her\u2014I know it was Taup\u014D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s people like these that I\u2019ve named. Of course, I want to also acknowledge Tuar\u014Dpaki. I want to acknowledge T\u016Bmanako Weret\u0101 and the hap\u016B and wh\u0101nau, and what they\u2019ve been forging, as T\u016Bmanako always does, under the radar. But I know, and I want to acknowledge, his contribution to this nation and what they are doing in M\u014Dkai, particularly around the hothouses, miraka, and their native nursery, and, of course, the contribution that he\u2019s given this Government through his daughter Pu\u0101wai Weret\u0101, who currently now sits on Damien O\u2019Connor\u2019s agricultural council\u2014bringing M\u0101ori expertise, the way we do it, to bear on this side of the House. So we are contributing to awe, like the Prime Minister has said many, many times.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003ESo I wanted to stand and acknowledge these fine people as only a small glimpse of T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s generosity to this nation\u2014their generosity, their patience. I\u2019m looking down at the deed of settlement. I see it was signed on 8 July 2017, and a year and a half later, we\u2019re having the final reading of their bill. So they have been very patient, and they\u2019ve also been, like I said, very generous with what they have given. I am proud to stand in support of this bill with all members of this House. I too want to acknowledge Sir Michael Cullen. I also want to acknowledge John Isles. I want to acknowledge the negotiators that have brought to this House a bill that we are proud to support. I want to thank you for doing all that work for that outcome.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EIn the time I\u2019ve got left, I want to acknowledge our rangatira \u0101p\u014Dp\u014D, our rangatahi that are in the House today. If that haka that we saw at the p\u014D\u2019hiri is anything to show where T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s going, watch this space. I want to acknowledge those rangatahi\u2014rangatahi that not only did the haka but are here to support this important kaupapa, and who I know are already planning their next five, 10, 15, 50 years out in terms of T\u016Bwharetoa. I want to acknowledge them. I want to say respectfully to the Kotahitanga o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa that amongst all the planning\u2014because this is just the beginning; it\u2019s not the end, and I\u2019m excited about what\u2019s going to come out of T\u016Bwharetoa\u2014that we always remember to be bold and to invest in our own. To be bold and to invest in our own. For too long we have always thought the expertise lies outside of our people. It is now our time to invest in our rangatahi, to invest in their futures, because we have so much to do and we have so many people to do it with. We could be the catalyst for that change, the pipeline of leadership that should be coming through with a range of skills to unlock the potential that is in the T\u016Bwharetoa rohe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EThese are just a few words of advice, again, like my sister Nanaia, as a former negotiator, is always having something to share. But to stand in all humility in celebration with the people of T\u016Bwharetoa for this significant achievement\u2014this is your day. This is your hour. This is your future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira e Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, t\u0113nei te mihi ki a koe, otir\u0101 te iwi o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, harikoa te ng\u0101kau ki a koutou katoa, he mihi aroha, he mihi maioha, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, tihei T\u016Bwharetoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E[Therefore Mr Assistant Speaker, this is a greeting to you, and indeed to the tribe of Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, my heart is joyful for you all, loving greetings, affectionate greetings, greetings, greetings, thrice greetings, tihei T\u016Bwharetoa.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u0022e9fb4c79020c42559dfa1e34525ed2cb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e9fb4c79020c42559dfa1e34525ed2cb\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister of Employment):\u003C/span\u003E Tuatahi he tika me mihi ki a koutou T\u016Bwharetoa i tae mai nei i t\u0113nei w\u0101, i whakarangatira i a m\u0101tou. Ki a koe e te rangatira, i tahuri koe i t\u014D korowai rangatiranga i runga m\u0101tou i t\u0113nei w\u0101, ng\u0101 mihi ki a koe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[Firstly, it is only right to greet you T\u016Bwharetoa who have come here at this time, and ennobled us with your presence. To you the chief, you have endowed us with your chiefly cloak at this time, greetings to you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWhen I think of T\u016Bwharetoa, I think of the chief\u2019s father, Sir Hepi. In my view, he laid the groundwork. We forget sometimes that it was your father who challenged the Government, who was quite anti-Government for a while\u2014and I salute him for that\u2014and who challenged the process and brought Te Ao M\u0101ori together. We must never forget that. His legacy is one of challenge to the Crown. He followed in the footsteps of his t\u012Bpuna, as you have, T\u0101 Tumu. I honour him, and I think he set the footprints for all of us.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EAs some of the T\u016Bwharetoa people will know, I have a bit of a connection with T\u016Bwharetoa. OK, it\u2019s not a connection that went for ever, but it was a connection and a connection I was very proud of for a while\u2014whether T\u016Bwharetoa was proud, I\u2019m not sure. But it wasn\u2019t really my fault. Actually, it\u2019s Georgina te Heuheu\u2019s fault, because she sang in the church along with her husband, Timi te Heuheu\u2014and obviously a little bit flat, because things went off a few years later, didn\u2019t they, Georgie? But lovely to see her, whaea Georgie, here, who carried on the legacy of her father-in-law. I salute Georgie. I salute what she did, coming into the National Party. That must have been hard. That must have been tough. But I salute her. She went into that National Party and she carried on the challenge that her father-in-law laid down, and she was an advocate for kaupapa M\u0101ori and an advocate for tikanga M\u0101ori. I just think it\u2019s wonderful seeing her today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EBut, as I said, I had a bit of a long relationship there with T\u016Bwharetoa, and I want to salute some of that wh\u0101nau who I was part of for a long time, the Maniapoto wh\u0101nau\u2014a wh\u0101nau that might not have been tino rangatiratanga advocates, but a wh\u0101nau who were whakangahau advocates, without doubt. To that wh\u0101nau, who are not at the forefront but at the back doing the entertaining\u2014a very integral part of this kaupapa. I say to my former father-in-law, N\u0113pia Maniapoto, to the great Huri Maniapoto, who married my auntie Bubs Ng\u0101rimu from Ngati Porou, and I say to Manu Maniapoto, who\u2019s now gone, and to Jim Maniapoto and to Uncle Tilly Maniapoto\u2014we remember them well, don\u2019t we? We remember them and their contribution to the T\u016Bwharetoa kaupapa well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESometimes we forget these unsung heroes who might not be out the front\u2014a bit like old Cedric up the back there. But if you muck around with anyone from T\u016Bwharetoa, Cedric will deal with them\u2014and my other cousin there, Auntie Bubs\u2019s son. I salute these people, these unsung heroes who make a contribution. We forget them sometimes because we do have our heroes and our t\u012Bpuna who have made such a big contribution to these settlements, who Louisa talked about in her beautiful k\u014Drero, who Meka Whaitiri talked about, and who others on the other side have talked about. There have been so many heroes in terms of T\u016Bwharetoa\u2014and, of course, John Bishara, a good friend of mine and probably the grumpiest and most horrible chief executive who ever graced Te M\u0101ngai P\u0101ho. He\u2019s not even here today\u2014you know, typical Bish. I salute them all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI think this is their legacy. The Maniapotos; te Heuheus; Georgina, who\u2019s been wonderful; you, Sir Tumu, who\u2019s been along; Cedric, who\u2019s running the team at the back\u2014I think you should be proud of this contribution and the legacy that was set down by the great Sir Hepi right at the start, who challenged us all and talked about tino rangatiratanga, talked about kotahitanga, talked about justice for our people. I mihi to him, and I mihi to you all today. T\u0113n\u0101 n\u014D t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022 data-id=\u00229ccaa513d8d347e2badf0c763b4f3bf6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229ccaa513d8d347e2badf0c763b4f3bf6\u0022\u003ETAMATI COFFEY (Labour\u2014Waiariki):\u003C/span\u003E What an act to follow. Why would you do it? Wh\u0101nau, I\u2019ve got five minutes to have my speech, so I\u2019m going to rip through it and I\u2019m going to leave some of the formalities to the side.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EKa tika me mihi ki a koe e te rangatira, taku rangatira, a Tumu, \u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Aunty Georgina, \u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koe hoki, ki a koe hoki, Sir Michael Cullen. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Nei ng\u0101 hap\u016B maha i waenganui i a t\u0101tou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E[It is right to acknowledge you the chief, my chief, Tumu, greetings to you. Aunty Georgina, greetings to you also, and, also to you, Sir Michael Cullen. Greetings to you all. There are many subtribes amongst us, greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ELike The Drifters say, they save the best for last\u2014\u201CSave the Last Dance\u201D; oh, that\u2019s what it was. As a new MP, this is all new to me. This is actually my first settlement from back home in the Waiariki, so it\u2019s a big moment for me. Being a new MP, it\u2019s all about looking and learning and listening. You know I\u2019m a new MP\u2014you put me here. Well, most of you put me here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s interesting to see the spectrum, actually, of settlements back home in the rohe. You\u2019ve got T\u016Bhoe on the one hand, who settled a while ago and are on their feet and doing well. You\u2019ve got other iwi, like Tauranga Moana, who are still waiting for that right outcome and for that deliberation to take place to reach that happy point. But you, today, are signing your settlement, and I mihi to you for all of the hard work that has gone into today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EI was there at the signing of the deed of settlement at Waitetoko. It was a big day. It was a momentous day. It was a milestone. That was the day that the apology was presented. I saw in the bill that the apology was there, and it\u2019s just words on the paper, but I wanted to, in my short contribution today, just read out a little bit of that apology and do it with a bit of meaning, because that\u2019s why we\u2019re here. The whole purpose of today is, basically, the Crown, us, saying sorry to you, to us, Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EThe apology starts like this: \u201CTo the resilient iwi that is Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa, to your Ariki, your beloved t\u016Bpuna, your hap\u016B, \u2026 your wh\u0101nau, the Crown offers this long overdue apology: the Crown unreservedly apologises for the ways [that] it has dishonoured its obligations to you under te Tiriti \u2026 and its principles.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s relationship with the Crown is one characterised by your iwi\u2019s generosity of spirit. Time and [time] again, your hap\u016B have shared taonga precious to you for the benefit of your fellow New Zealanders. At other times, the Crown has taken your whenua and your resources from you. The Crown regrets, profoundly, its actions, [its] omissions, and policies that have debilitated Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa\u2019s social, cultural, spiritual, political, and economic structures. The Crown understands, and is deeply remorseful that, by removing the ability of your wh\u0101nau and hap\u016B to safeguard your whenua and taonga, your ability to nurture yourselves has been hindered. \u2026\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EThrough this settlement, and with this apology, the Crown recognises how your resilience as hap\u016B and as an iwi depends upon your deep connection to the whenua and your desire to protect it. The Crown looks forward to building an enduring relationship of mutual trust and co-operation with Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa based on te Tiriti \u2026 and its principles, and to support you in the revitalisation of ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Ng\u0101ti T\u016Bwharetoa.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EThat\u2019s in there, wh\u0101nau. I encourage you to get that printed up and put it at your marae, because the words are deep and they\u2019re incredibly meaningful.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EYou are at the start of your journey, but I can\u2019t stop telling my colleagues down here just how much you\u2019re kicking it in T\u016Bwharetoa. I talk about Tuar\u014Dpaki and the awesome stuff that\u2019s happening there. Just last week, I went to the signing\u2014the Obayashi Corporation and Tuar\u014Dpaki about to build their hydrogen plant\u2014cutting edge stuff. Tauhara North No. 2\u2014I keep telling my auntie to pass her shares over; she won\u2019t do it. Her loss; I\u2019ll get there eventually.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EThe new whare that\u2019s been built at M\u014Dkai. I was there for the dawn ceremony. It is beautiful there. I\u2019m trying to hustle our M\u0101ori caucus colleagues to come down to T\u016Bwharetoa in the new year\u2014namely, to come and look at our marae, down at Waitahanui, down at P\u0101kira. I know that a lot of love and a lot of work has gone into that. So, hopefully, we get that over the line, and hopefully I can bring the Prime Minister with me when we make that journey. There you go. I just put her on notice.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EThat\u2019s all I\u2019ve got time for, wh\u0101nau. Thank you for coming here today. It warms my heart like you wouldn\u2019t believe. If I don\u2019t see you this afternoon, I\u2019ll see you at P\u0101 Wars in the uka tent. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000436\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000437\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EWaiata\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000438\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002287d7d5bc00bf4b0ea1f57fef1a347b01\u0022\u003ESubordinate Legislation Confirmation Bill (No 2)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000439\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002206b307e212dd43f5a31a9e239eca8b17\u0022\u003ESecond Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022607542e618904897bf04f95c84004783\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000440\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022607542e618904897bf04f95c84004783\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Subordinate Legislation Confirmation Bill (No 2) be now read a second time. I suspect after that last debate that this is going to be somewhat of an anticlimax for the House, particularly after the very moving speeches that we just heard and the very warm and considered contributions from members across the House\u2014this is somewhat of a contrast.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000441\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003ESubordinate legislation confirmation bills are an annual event in this House. Their purpose is to confirm, by an Act of Parliament, regulations that would otherwise be revoked on a particular date, in some cases at the end of the year. If these regulations were allowed to lapse, the result would be administrative chaos, considerable expense, and the loss of a significant amount of revenue. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003EThe process is set out in the Legislation Act 2012, having been clarified in detail by the Legislation (Confirmable Instruments) Amendment Act 2015. With only the second reading of the subordinate legislation confirmation bills being debatable, detailed select committee consideration of the bill is particularly important. I\u2019d like to thank the Regulations Review Committee, under the chairmanship of the Hon Gerry Brownlee, for the work that they have done on this bill, which was examined with commendable thoroughness. Explanations about why the instruments should be confirmed were sought from five Government departments that have responsibility for administering them, as a result of which the committee felt they were able to recommend that all of those instruments be confirmed by the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000443\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003EThe committee\u2019s report also contained reflections on the confirmation process itself, which could be fed into the Standing Orders Committee\u2019s triennial review of Parliament\u2019s rules in 2020. Having had some conversations with members involved in that process, I think there are some really good issues there that the Standing Orders Committee could get into in more detail. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000444\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003EThis year\u2019s bill confirms delegated legislation made under seven Acts of Parliament: the Animal Products Act 1999, the Antarctica (Environmental Protection) Act 1994, the Biosecurity Act 1993, the Commodity Levies Act 1990, the Customs and Excise Act 1996, the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Act 2001, and the Tariff Act 1988. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000445\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003EThe instruments to be confirmed fall into several broad categories. The setting of levies and duties on various goods and services accounts for half of the regulations that are being validated by this bill. They include levies on fish processors and large processors in the dairy industry, biosecurity system entry levies, and commodity levies on kiwifruit, rock lobster, p\u0101ua, arable crops, maize, cereal silage, and asparagus. Increases in the excise duties on tobacco and alcohol products are also included. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000446\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003EA second category of regulations that is validated by the bill is import and export prohibitions. The export of certain kinds of pounamu and green-lipped mussels is prohibited. Consumers are protected by the banning of the import of motor vehicles with faulty or absent odometers. The safety of the general public is enhanced by the banning of the import of certain offensive weapons, including some kinds of knife. New Zealand\u2019s commitment to peace and non-aggression is behind the prohibition of items that may have an application in a nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons programme, as well as certain other weapons or military goods. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000447\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003ESeveral regulations are consequential from international agreements or treaties, such as amendments to the Protocol on Environmental Protection to the Antarctic Treaty, which increased protection for native Antarctic animals, mammals, birds, and plants.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000448\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003EFinally, increases in benefits and allowances related to New Zealand superannuation are approved. The subordinate legislation confirmation process enables Government to be responsive and efficient without compromising the essential parliamentary scrutiny. I commend the bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022 data-id=\u0022227539b048044e909f80b7d5c75270f9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000449\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022227539b048044e909f80b7d5c75270f9\u0022\u003ESIMEON BROWN (National\u2014Pakuranga):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker, for the opportunity to take a call on the Subordinate Legislation Confirmation Bill (No 2), which the National Party will be supporting\u2014to the great relief of the Leader of the House, no doubt\u2014this bill, which typically is not a bill which attracts a lot of debate or attracts a lot of controversy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003EThis bill does have an important purpose, and that purpose is to prevent the revocation of certain pieces of subordinate legislation that, by virtue of Acts of Parliament under which they are made, are revoked if they are not confirmed by an Act of Parliament. So this is Parliament\u2019s ability to be able to scrutinise the lawmaking, the subordinate legislation which is made under Acts of Parliament, to ensure that it is in line with the intent of Parliament, and then this legislation gives Parliament that ability, if it is not satisfied, for those regulations to be lapsed if they are found not to be within the intent that Parliament gave to that legislation in the first place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003EAs a member of the Regulations Review Committee, we were able to look at the regulations which are presented in this bill, and we were able to hear submissions. We received submissions from a number of Government departments, from the New Zealand Customs Service, the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, the Ministry of Social Development, and the Ministry for Primary Industries, and they all said that they believed that these needed to be confirmed to ensure that they were not automatically revoked.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003ESo these confirmations, as the Minister Chris Hipkins has outlined, cover a range of pieces of legislation, from the Animal Products Act, which includes some fees and charges and levies, to the Antarctica (Environmental Protection) Act. Most interesting, I think, came under the Commodity Levies Act, where there were levies regarding kiwifruit, rock lobster, p\u0101ua, arable crops, maize, cereal silage, and asparagus\u2014and I\u2019m sure the Green Party would be very interested in that one. The ones around the asparagus were very important regulations which are included in this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022071f7800-2755-41b6-83df-07ebaf867ae2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002265e682569df64a41985b382ca6ddcc59\u0022\u003ETim van de Molen\u003C/span\u003E: Asparagus is a great crop.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a018445b2b574bc1970319ae1d602f04\u0022\u003ESIMEON BROWN\u003C/span\u003E: Asparagus\u2014that\u2019s right, Mr van de Molen. I appreciate your input there. The Customs and Excise Act included a number of other excises, and that particularly focuses on the tobacco products indexation and the 10 percent increase in tobacco excise which was confirmed, as well as the indexation of excise on alcoholic beverages.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000455\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003ESo this does cover a wide range of regulations, and the point of contention\u2014which I\u2019m glad to hear the Minister saying is going to be addressed through the Standing Orders review, and which was discussed at the committee and is outlined in the report back to the House\u2014is over the process around when the committee should be able to review the regulations. The National members of the committee believe that the committee\u2019s scrutiny would be more effective if it was able to consider the instruments prior to their finalisation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000456\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003EThe way that the process currently works is that the regulations are made and then this bill is brought to the select committee, and at that point we scrutinise, and then we make recommendations to the House. The National members believe that what should take place is that before the regulations are finalised they should be scrutinised, and then the process should go towards the confirmation. This would allow the committee to report to the relevant Minister, if necessary, before the instruments come into force.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003EThis anomaly is particularly important, I think, when it comes to duties or levies. Under the current process, if an Act which allows for these levies to be put in place\u2014if levies are put in place\u2014is then found to be inconsistent, or the Regulation Review Committee reviews those levies and finds them to be required to be revoked, then currently the process is that while they\u2019ve been in place they\u2019ve been in law, essentially, and those levies have been charged. Then the committee looks at those regulations and may decide to revoke them, and at that point those duties or levies, in most instances, will have to be refunded to the people upon which they have been charged.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003ESo this leads to a potential situation where, essentially, levies are charged, and then the Regulations Review Committee reviews those regulations which set up the levies and says, \u201CActually, we don\u2019t believe that they fit within the purpose of the Act.\u201D, and then they are revoked, potentially, by Parliament, if that\u2019s the recommendation by the Regulations Review Committee. Parliament will pass an amendment to the subordinate legislation confirmation bill, and then they are revoked, and then a refund of those levies will have to be put in place. So what we\u2019re saying is that that process should be reversed and the regulations should be reviewed first, prior to them being struck, so that the requirement for those levies to then be refunded is no longer in place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003ESo that\u2019s something which I\u2019m very glad to hear that the Minister is going to look into as part of the Standing Orders review. I think that\u2019s something which all parliamentarians would find incredibly interesting and would be quite interested in being part of\u2014I certainly would be. I know there would be many members on this side of the House, and I\u2019m sure there would be others on the other side, who would have a range of different thoughts, as no doubt they will have had experience with constituents who have come to talk to them about different levies which have been struck, about when and how they were struck, the process of consultation, and whether that was done through due process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003EWe will be very interested whether the Regulations Review Committee can play a more substantive role in actually looking at these regulations prior to them being struck. I think that will be certainly something which all parliamentarians would be very interested in. So I\u2019m really looking forward to that conversation. I\u2019m really pleased that the Minister has indicated that that conversation will happen. I\u2019m sure it will be something which all of Parliament can agree on. It will be something which will be very, very interesting indeed. So without further ado, I just want to say that I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022 data-id=\u0022b0be83168fab42158f1544d330c856a7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b0be83168fab42158f1544d330c856a7\u0022\u003ENICOLA WILLIS (National):\u003C/span\u003E I rise to speak also on the Subordinate Legislation Confirmation Bill (No 2). I\u2019m conscious that my colleague Simeon Brown has already done a very good job of illustrating some of the issues that we have discussed at the Regulations Review Committee in relation to this bill. I am a new member, and my participation in the Regulations Review Committee has been a very gratifying experience, because, on that committee, I think we feel very close to the purpose of Parliament and, in fact, what the power of this House is. Of course, as MPs, our job is not only to create new legislation but also to ensure that the regulations that are set fall within the scope of statutes that have already been passed, and this scrutiny is an important role for Parliament. So, in discussing the Subordinate Legislation Confirmation Bill (No 2), both National and Labour were very clear that there was no particular reason why these particular instruments shouldn\u2019t be confirmed, but we did have a very thorough conversation about the process at play with this bill and its appropriateness given the supreme role of Parliament within our democracy, and whether or not that role does play out in this process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000462\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003ESo, in particular, I want to acknowledge the chairman, the Hon Gerry Brownlee, who I think, as a parliamentarian of many years\u2019 experience and standing, was well placed to lead this discussion. I want to acknowledge Dr Duncan Webb, who, of course, as a legal mind, was very able to engage in the debate as well; Kiritapu Allan, Dr Liz Craig, and Simeon Brown. The Regulations Review Committee\u2014as members in this House who have sat on it will appreciate\u2014is a committee that is not often adversarial but where good debate and discussion about detailed matters takes place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000463\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EIn relation to this bill and the process issues which the National Party in particular raised, it\u2019s important that people understand the current process. So the current process is that Parliament sets an empowering Act that allows the creation of legislative instruments, and it requires, in setting that Act, that those legislative instruments be confirmed by legislation within a certain period. The instruments are then made, they\u2019re notified in the Gazette, they\u2019re published, and then they\u2019re presented to the House. Then this bill is prepared, and we go through this debate as we are today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000464\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EBut, of course, the key point here is that we\u2019re really having the debate after the fact, because the regulations have already been set; they\u2019re already in effect. And so if, for any reason, those regulations have actually strayed outside the scope of the original empowering Act\u2014if officials have perhaps gone beyond what was the mandate of Parliament or the intent of Parliament\u2014we do have, potentially, a significant issue, as Simeon Brown laid out. That issue is not just about the role of Parliament in a theoretical sense\u2014which I would argue is also very important\u2014but it\u2019s a practical issue, because if regulations have been set that have allowed levies, for example, to be collected in excess of what the original statute had envisaged, then we would find ourselves in the circumstance of Parliament having to pass an Act saying that that wasn\u2019t OK and then requiring those levies to be recollected again. We can imagine the administrative challenge and difficulty and complexity that could cause.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000465\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003ESo, in raising this issue, National had very good intent, which was to say, \u201CYes, in this particular bill, there are no particular instruments that we have special concern about.\u201D, but, of course, we did raise the question of: \u201CWell, what if we did?\u201D And it would really, frankly, be after the fact, and it means, to some extent, that it makes a little bit of a joke of the powers of the Parliament to do much about it. So that is the process point which we\u2019ve acknowledged and which the committee has reported on, and that I think it\u2019s important for members of this House to appreciate and reflect on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EThe next step, of course, is for those substantive issues to be considered further. I think the Minister referred to the Standing Orders Committee potentially being the avenue for that discussion. I think it\u2019s a useful discussion. I would appreciate the opportunity, potentially, for other legal scholars\u2014those who\u2019ve studied our public law systems\u2014to reflect on it. I think what is very important\u2014and I hope it\u2019s a view that is shared across this House\u2014is that when we come here as members of Parliament, we do so with the responsibility to ensure that the decisions that we vote on in this House are representative and work through our democratic systems. And if we allow the executive to take actions which sit outside Parliament, we are losing the supremacy of Parliament; we are losing the power of our roles in here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003ESo this is a significant issue. It\u2019s a process point. It\u2019s a technical point. I won\u2019t pretend that this was a discussion that I thought could be streamed live on TVNZ or NewsHub, for that matter. I\u2019m not sure that it would have kept young people up and down the country awake and excited, and yet it is an important and substantive conversation. So, again, I\u2019d like to acknowledge fellow members of the committee for the discussion we had to reconfirm National\u2019s support for this bill but our desire to engage in further discussion about this process. Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022 data-id=\u002206a25e00831f43bcaa87c21f5d9d347a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000468\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002206a25e00831f43bcaa87c21f5d9d347a\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that the motion be\u2014oh, I apologise. I call Mark Patterson.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022 data-id=\u0022fe198db80a394c9dab6896e9d549870e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000469\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fe198db80a394c9dab6896e9d549870e\u0022\u003EMARK PATTERSON (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E I hope it won\u2019t be so inconsequential. I just rise, actually, for a very brief contribution just to affirm New Zealand First\u2019s support for this Subordinate Legislation Confirmation Bill (No 2). I do note\u2014we have just been following the debate around the process\u2014that the Minister has offered to look into it as part of the triennial review, and it does sound like there is some cause for that. I would note, just for some context, for example, when we\u2019re looking at the Commodity Levies Act and the levies that this has been delegated to bring into force, or the rate of\u2014these industries all come to the Minister after having wide consultation within the sector involved, and often there\u2019ll be a vote, and most of the votes that I\u2019ve seen on these commodity levies have got 95-or-so percent of the participants who are the actual payers of these levies who have shown support.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000470\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003ESo I think we need to have a little bit of context there around some of this, too. We don\u2019t want to wrap it up in too much red tape. We\u2019re merely confirming what these industries have debated and wished for during their consultation process. So that will no doubt be taken into account within that wider discussion. But, outside of that, New Zealand First is very happy to support this legislation. Whilst it\u2019s not the highest-profile legislation, as Nicola Willis mentioned before, it is actually really important for those industries. The Commodity Levies Act, the Customs and Excise Act, the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Act, the Biosecurity Act\u2014they\u2019re all really important issues that this country faces, so having the mechanisms in place to enact the legislation and regulations is really important. So New Zealand First supports that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000471\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EI will commend the Regulations Review Committee for wading through this, and I note that Nicola Willis showed some enthusiasm for that committee. I\u2019m glad I\u2019m not on it. It does sound fairly dry old stuff, but we do need people that are motivated to look and then trawl through the details of this stuff. It\u2019s important for our democracy that they do, and I\u2019m glad that it\u2019s not me. But, without further ado, New Zealand First supports this bill to the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022 data-id=\u00222cf5f21c3a5c4dcea2b0b3d4b43ce1e6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000472\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222cf5f21c3a5c4dcea2b0b3d4b43ce1e6\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams)\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, and I apologise to the member again. OK, are we done? OK. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000473\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003EBill read a second time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000474\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022aea28cb1caaa480799a2ef2b804249ec\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u002260ed787d08184118889c2bb00af805d3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000475\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002260ed787d08184118889c2bb00af805d3\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Subordinate Legislation Confirmation Bill (No 2) be now read a third time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000476\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000477\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00223105f8d3ce2944098f4c91ad756dcb9c\u0022\u003ECoroners (Access to Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000478\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002283e35c3b23cb444eb687f231cb7c0daa\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022 data-id=\u0022f763353c8b7b40c7ad544da1075088ae\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000479\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f763353c8b7b40c7ad544da1075088ae\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE (Minister of Justice):\u003C/span\u003E I move that the third reading of the Coroners (Access to Body of Deceased Person) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. First of all, I want to begin by thanking everyone who has contributed towards this bill and, in particular, the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, who, through its 2016 report, Inquiry into wh\u0101nau access to and management of t\u016Bp\u0101paku, recommended this legislative change. I\u2019d also like to thank those members of the public who took the time to make submissions to the select committee\u2019s bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000480\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThis bill implements part of the Government\u2019s response to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee\u2019s report\u2014again, that report was Inquiry into wh\u0101nau access to and management of t\u016Bp\u0101paku. In particular, the bill will codify the current practice that many coroners exercise and ensure that all cultural beliefs, including tikanga M\u0101ori, continue to be recognised and supported in our coronial system. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000481\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe Coroners Act establishes the coronial framework in New Zealand and regulates wh\u0101nau access to t\u016Bp\u0101paku. The role of the coroner is to investigate sudden or unexplained deaths and to make recommendations that can help reduce the chance of further deaths in similar circumstances. The Act seeks to balance the cultural and spiritual needs of family and those in a close relationship with the person who has died with the public good associated with a proper and timely understanding of the causes of death. Overall, the coronial system responds well to cultural and religious needs. However, there are always opportunities to improve the responsiveness of the coronial system to cultural considerations. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000482\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EEven though the bill itself is small in size, the completion of this bill\u2019s passage through this House will have far-reaching impacts for many people in New Zealand. Of the estimated 31,000 deaths in New Zealand each year, 20 percent of these are referred to the coroner. This bill amends section 26 of the Coroners Act to explicitly require the coroner to consider tikanga M\u0101ori and the expectations of other cultures when determining who can view, touch, or remain near a body. While the Coroners Act 2006 and coronial practice does respond well to the cultural needs of wh\u0101nau and family during the coronial process, the legislation should place a stronger emphasis on the need for this respect. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000483\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EThe ability to stay with the deceased and carry out traditional cultural activities is an important feature of many cultures, religions, and ethnicities. It\u2019s a traditional M\u0101ori cultural practice that immediate wh\u0101nau do not leave the t\u016Bp\u0101paku until burial. As New Zealand is made up of many diverse cultures and people of different religions, we wanted to make sure that all cultural beliefs, including tikanga M\u0101ori, continue to be recognised and supported during what is a challenging time for wh\u0101nau and all parties involved. This bill will ensure that all cultural beliefs, including tikanga M\u0101ori, will be recognised and supported in our coronial system. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000484\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EAgain, I\u2019d like to confirm that this bill doesn\u2019t seek to change the current practice of coroners\u2014many are already doing this\u2014but it is important to have an emphasis in the statute so that there can be no room for doubt when wh\u0101nau are asking coroners to respect their needs. The bill ensures that the practice of taking cultural considerations into account is more visible to the families, and they can be assured that their cultural requirements will be respected. Again, I thank everybody for their ongoing support for this legislation as it has passed through the House, and, indeed, all of those who have taken an interest in it and have made submissions to the select committee. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000485\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s important that what this bill does do is recognise this important aspect, and it will bring benefits to many, many New Zealanders. On that note, I am pleased to commend this bill to the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000486\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a05616bf75d6456a9f1f5444fc030f37\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams)\u003C/span\u003E: No, I\u2019d ask the Minister to remain on his feet. Could I just ask you to move the motion as written, again, for us, please. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000487\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eb6b0a75bf34456d964397a48932ba9f\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW LITTLE\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m obliged, Madam Assistant Speaker. I move, That the Coroners (Access to Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022 data-id=\u0022b84467f02cc94741a6d9836ff178ae69\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000488\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b84467f02cc94741a6d9836ff178ae69\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams)\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you for that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022 data-id=\u00220359e92b2f374495937884d2944ad6a5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000489\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220359e92b2f374495937884d2944ad6a5\u0022\u003ENUK KORAKO (National):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora, e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101. It is indeed my pleasure to be able to stand to talk in the third reading of the Coroners (Access to Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill. Can I just also acknowledge the genesis of this particular bill. It came out of the inquiry that was done in the 51st Parliament by the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I want to acknowledge the member of Parliament, the honourable Metiria Turei, who was the one who actually, first of all, instigated the inquiry, and then also others who are not here in this Parliament, in the 52nd Parliament, who had a lot to do with it are the Hon Chester Borrows, Marama Fox, and Pita Paraone. I also acknowledge the Komiti Whiriwhiri Take M\u0101ori of the 52nd Parliament, under the chairmanship of Rino Tirikatene, which was able then to conclude and move the legislation forward through the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000490\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EThis was quite a sensitive take, because, on the one hand, we have the requirement that the coroner be able to undertake their duties in a manner that ensures the integrity of the role that the coroner maintains. Equally, we also have tikaka M\u0101ori that often requires the t\u016Bp\u0101paku to be accompanied by wh\u0101nau at all times. Yet we still have to let the coroner do their job. What my colleagues on both sides of the House did, through the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, was to recognise that a Treaty partnership requires that we explore ways in which cultural expression can be recognised and given effect without actually subverting the fundamental role that the coroner plays within our society.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000491\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ELooking at that, it\u2019s about the recognition of the Treaty of Waitangi, which actually means recognition of the Treaty partners, being both M\u0101ori and P\u0101keh\u0101 alike. One doesn\u2019t prevail over the other, actually, when looking at this, and so, rather, we try to work within the best interests of each other. This bill is a reflection on the endeavour to work in the best interests of our society. That also brings in the other part, which is that we did, during the submission process, hear from not only M\u0101ori and P\u0101keh\u0101 but also other ethnicities as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000492\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EBefore I go into the detail of the section 26 amendments, probably just some background also, particularly with the statistics: an estimated 31,000 deaths occur each year in Aotearoa, and most are the result of natural causes. It\u2019s the 20 percent of deaths that are referred to the coroner, which is around 6,000, and it is this particular part of it\u2014the referred deaths\u2014that the amendment actually addresses. So it\u2019s around that 20 percent, and many of those deaths that we found were actually of M\u0101ori descent. In the case of a suspected crime, the matter is relatively quite straightforward, and for our wh\u0101nau, adjusting cultural practices in the interest of justice is easy to actually agree to. That\u2019s what we found. Looking at our cultural ways, they\u2019re not completely written in stone. We can adapt when we need to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000493\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EThis is actually more about the case of non-crime death, where matters start to grey, and this was something that came out. For the bereaved wh\u0101nau, the need to grieve in a sort of culturally defined way is an absolute requirement and a necessary step on the process of farewelling their loved one and then moving to closure. So there are sensitivities, as we know, and emotions are very, very high. But what appears to be a straightforward death to wh\u0101nau may raise concerns, particularly for medical staff, and referral may be made. In the amendment itself, it makes it quite clear that cultural considerations must be taken into account by a coroner who is assessing whether to undertake a post-mortem investigation. I think that\u2019s a very, very important part of the bill itself. It\u2019s not a handbrake on the role of the coroner; rather it\u2019s a measure designed to ensure that the wh\u0101nau are properly spoken to and given the chance to be part of the initial consideration process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000494\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003EI\u2019ve previously stated, in previous speeches, that an unexpected death that reveals a hereditary heart defect that a wh\u0101nau was not aware of can mean actual life for a wh\u0101nau member of the deceased. A sudden death that can be attributed to a communicable disease can mean safety for a community. Then the other one, the discovery of a homicide, can mean justice for that community or society. So if this is carefully explained to the wh\u0101nau and the undertakings as to speed and the efficiency are detailed and adhered to, most wh\u0101nau will agree to the investigation taking place. But where agreement is not reached, then the bill requires that the coroner carefully weigh the competing interests in making a final determination as to whether to proceed or not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000495\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002229c236aa-2283-4690-9a84-aa865404bb61\u0022\u003ELooking at this bill, I believe, as we do, I\u2019m sure, right across the House, that this is a good solution and that it\u2019s also a good outcome. So I mihi to my colleagues on both sides of the House who really worked to bring this amendment about, and also, as I mentioned earlier, to the previous members of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee of the 51st Parliament. I just want to acknowledge, too, and mihi to the Minister of Justice, the Hon Andrew Little, and acknowledge him and thank him for bringing this bill to the House. On that note, I would have no hesitation in commending this bill to the House. Kia ora t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022 data-id=\u0022c020345530a441778419ff0e4691666c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000496\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c020345530a441778419ff0e4691666c\u0022\u003ERINO TIRIKATENE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Tonga):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker. I too stand in support of this bill, the Coroners (Access to Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill, in its third reading. I want to acknowledge the member, Nuk Korako, who\u2019s just resumed his seat, for the role that he played with the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee of the 51st Parliament, which initiated the inquiry which has led to this piece of legislation, and all of the members of that committee, and, likewise, the response from the Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000497\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThis bill has straddled, I guess, two separate parliaments, and so there has been cooperation from both Governments, both the previous one and the current one, to ensure the passage of this legislation and the acceptance of the recommendation which the committee made, which has led to the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000498\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ESo this is a small provision that we\u2019re inserting into the Coroners Act, but it\u2019s very significant. As we know, coroners are judicial officers. They perform a very important and very professional role in what they do, in determining matters around suspicious or unexpected deaths, and as part of that judicial role that they play, inevitably, there are the issues which come with the intersection of grieving wh\u0101nau\u2014with loved ones. And what this bill does is follow through on those recommendations to ensure that coroners do take into account the ethnic origins, social attitudes, and customs, spiritual beliefs also, of the person who is deceased or their immediate family to ensure that those are taken into account to allow either immediate wh\u0101nau or representatives to be able to view, to be able to spend time with, and to touch their deceased loved ones.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000499\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ESo I believe this is an important piece of legislation because it is showing humanity even though we all know that the coroner has to perform a very important judicial role. There is definitely scope in it, and what we\u2019re doing is ensuring that it is a requirement that coroners, in exercising their discretion as to who may have access to a deceased loved one, take into account those cultural considerations. It\u2019s definitely important for tikanga M\u0101ori, and this provision also extends to all cultures that are part of Aotearoa New Zealand society.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000500\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI don\u2019t intend to take too long with this contribution other than to say I support the bill. Coroners do play an important role, but there are also other important steps, I guess, that take place\u2014whether it\u2019s the role that district health boards play in terms of their role with dealing with deceased persons; likewise, undertakers and funeral directors. I know that there is, across all of those different offices and different organisations, consideration given to those cultural concerns and spiritual beliefs and the like. And so I\u2019m pleased that we\u2019re able to set this directive through this piece of legislation to ensure that that also applies in the Coroners Act to direct our coroners as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000501\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EAnd so with that I commend this bill, but as is M\u0101ori custom I\u2019d like to, as we say, \u0101piti hono t\u0101tai hono, r\u0101tou te hunga wairua ki a r\u0101tou, \u0101piti hono t\u0101tai hono, t\u0101tou te hunga ora ki a t\u0101tou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa [let the connections be made, the spiritual ones remain with each other, let the connections be made, those of us who are living remain with the living, greetings, greetings, thrice greetings].\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022 data-id=\u0022be92e578575048eeb1eebd19e38aa3cf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000502\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022be92e578575048eeb1eebd19e38aa3cf\u0022\u003EJO HAYES (National):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker. It is with pleasure that I stand to take a brief call on the third reading of the Coroners (Access to Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill. I do want to mention Metiria Turei, who started this whole process back in the last sitting, Parliament time. I want to thank her for bringing this to our attention. As I said in my contribution during the committee of the whole House, I had no idea it was a big issue, because I had not personally experienced it. But I understand that a number of wh\u0101nau have experienced it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI\u2019m sure that the sentiment of this bill resonates not only with M\u0101ori but across all cultures, actually. When my husband\u2019s aunty died, they had her lying in state, and we could go in there and we could give her a kiss goodbye and touch her as well. So that was really good, and they weren\u2019t M\u0101ori. So I think that this bill does resonate with a number of cultures in our country.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI think it\u2019s all about, and what it\u2019s brought to the fore, is respect\u2014respect for not just the work of the coroners and the role that they play but also respect for wh\u0101nau with the coroners and the relationship that that has built. I think that is only a good thing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000505\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EActually, we know that wh\u0101nau pani\u2014those are the families of the deceased\u2014are used to being able to be there when the wh\u0101nau member dies, when the t\u016Bp\u0101paku passes, to be able to dress them and to be there throughout the whole process and journey into the ground from whence they came. I think this is a great bill, and I\u2019m really pleased that it\u2019s got support across the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000506\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EAs I mentioned, it\u2019s going to be a short contribution from me. I think that it is quite a narrow bill. It does do many things that are great things. I want to thank all of those who put submissions forward, and I\u2019m very happy and proud to commend it to the House. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u0022ac02ee3cc1dc42d2ad5f7e6f25c4dc9f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000507\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ac02ee3cc1dc42d2ad5f7e6f25c4dc9f\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (Minister of Forestry):\u003C/span\u003E As someone who is mildly superstitious, this is the first time I\u2019ve spoken on this bill and I\u2019ve avoided every other obligation to speak on it, but, naturally, we support it. As someone who has received complaints, as an MP, about the treatment of wh\u0101nau concerns in the treatment of the person who has passed away and an inability of the coroner, the pathologist, and other elements in the system, I\u2019m reminded of one of my tupuna, who, in 1887, went and had a meal with the bishop in Parnell. He was accompanied by Kelvin Davis\u2019s tupuna, who was the then member of Te Tai Tokerau, Te Tai Hakuene. My tupuna\u2019s name was R\u0113nata Tangata, from a little place called P\u0113ria at the back of Taip\u0101, at the base of the Mangamuka Ranges. They were served tinned meat, and that meal became te matenga o te t\u012Bni m\u012Bti amethe death of the tinned meat], because the meat had not been properly prepared, or had gone foul in the actual tin.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000508\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThree of our kaum\u0101tua left on the Clansman, which was the main vessel to take them out of Auckland back up to the wild and woolly North, and all three died as a consequence of this tinned meat poisoning. Two were leading Anglican clergy\u2014Rev. R\u016Bpene Paerata, Rev. Tangata\u2014and Te Tai Hakuene, whose photo is near where the media currently occupy. When the superintendent came to get the body of Rev. R\u0113nata Tangata so that the medical authorities could undertake some sort of assessment to see what the reason was that he passed away, the natives rebelled. For hour after hour, they demanded that they not lose the t\u016Bp\u0101paku, that the person be grieved over and stay on the marae, but, like all good M\u0101ori Anglicans, they eventually acceded to the request. So there\u2019s actually a long tradition where I come from of mighty rows about where medical authority meets customary expectation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000509\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EIn 1992, when I came back from studying in the States, I was summoned by the police to help recover the body of a tiny little baby that had already been taken to the marae in Hokianga, and the hap\u016B who had the baby under no circumstances were going to release it. The coroner and the police said, \u201CWe need to get hold of this t\u016Bp\u0101paku to find out how did this kid die.\u201D So the armed offenders squad arrived, the riot squad arrived, and we eventually did work with the wh\u0101nau and the hap\u016B and got the body of the baby released. I only tell that story because, for a number of us, these are very vivid cases, and I only hope that the inclusion of tikanga M\u0101ori enables the medical professionals and the staff advising the coroner and the coronial decision maker to actually put into practice what at one level is common sense but at another level is a long history of missed opportunity for the system to pay a suitable quality of respect in terms of how M\u0101ori wh\u0101nau grieve for those who have passed away and use that as a basis for passing on culture.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000510\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ESo with those few words, I\u2019ll say no more about a topic that I find rather culturally distasteful. Thank you very much.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022 data-id=\u00228d49a3ba05614ffe8c5caa7a427c2067\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000511\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228d49a3ba05614ffe8c5caa7a427c2067\u0022\u003EHARETE HIPANGO (National\u2014Whanganui):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you. I rise for the second time this week. The bill was before the committee of the whole House earlier in the week, and I spoke to some of the detail around that. Clause 4, under the amendment bill, is specifically dealing with an amendment to section 26 of the Coroners Act 2006, and that is to seek an insertion after section 26(2)(e) by way of new paragraph (ea). I would just like to read that out to the House, because the coroner is tasked in the event of a sudden or unexplained death or death in special circumstances to determine whether or not a post-mortem or autopsy ought to occur. So this amendment is seeking to insert, as one of eight interests or matters to be considered\u2014mandatorily now, with this amendment, should it be passed into law, and it\u2019s expected that it will; it has full House support\u2014that the coroner factor in, amongst those other eight considerations, \u201Cthe ethnic origins, social attitudes or customs, or spiritual beliefs of the person who is, or of a person who is suspected to be \u2026\u201D, and this means an unidentifiable dead person or deceased person, which is often associated with either a tragedy by way of an accident or some criminal event that may have occurred; so \u201Cof a person who is suspected to be the dead person, or of an immediate family member of that person, that customarily required viewing, touching, or remaining with or near the body\u201D. For us in our M\u0101ori cultural reference, that is our t\u016Bp\u0101paku.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000512\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EHaving worked as a lawyer for a number of years and also as part of that responsibility engaging with the police, with coroners, appearing in the coronial court as well\u2014and medical practitioners\u2014this has created a level of angst. That angst has often been associated with the time or the era of having practised. I reference that because I have recollection of dealing with the coroner some 20 years ago on behalf of wh\u0101nau and the difficulty for wh\u0101nau just to have access to the body, the t\u016Bp\u0101paku. That was very much premised on relationships of the day. This amendment will require that the coroner must factor this in, amongst other considerations, to permit or allow either the viewing, the access to, or the remaining with the t\u016Bp\u0101paku.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000513\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EThis is a short address to the House, but I do reflect that on the first reading of this bill, I referenced speaking to a colleague of mine who is the deputy coroner, Brandt Shortland, and he harkened me to be mindful that coroners have practice notes. In this day and age, the practice notes\u2014although there\u2019s a discretionary consideration, as there had been under the Coroner\u2019s Act, this will make it mandatory. The coroner\u2019s practice notes very much remind coroners of their duty, in the cultural landscape of Aotearoa as it is today, to bear in mind the importance of cultural considerations around decisions being made whether to have access to touch or view the body. That was balanced up against other factors such as contamination of evidence, if that was critical or crucial to the inquiry or the outcome and finding of the cause of death.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000514\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EIn closing, I do commend to the House this amendment by way of this bill to be passed into law. There\u2019s been mention made by other speakers in the House that it factors in tikanga M\u0101ori\u2014yes, it does, but it also factors in other cultural requirements and needs and belief values and systems.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000515\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EAs a matter of interest, we live in an ever more diverse landscape in society here in Aotearoa. In the days when I was working as a lawyer for Child, Youth and Family there was a Muslim social worker. He died suddenly and unexpectedly and as is the custom of their people and their beliefs he was required to be buried within 24 hours. Fortunately, there was no suspicious death aspect to that, and the coroner made a decision not to require an autopsy. But this amendment under this bill, once passed into law, will require those considerations to be factored in. I commend this to the House. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022 data-id=\u00220d75aa874e5d4506888dc97b5fee5cc6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000516\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220d75aa874e5d4506888dc97b5fee5cc6\u0022\u003EMARAMA DAVIDSON (Co-Leader\u2014Green):\u003C/span\u003E I am very pleased to have seen this, the Coroners (Access to Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill come through to this third reading in this House. And I know that all throughout the readings my colleagues have upheld the whakapapa of this particular change in law, which is about requiring coroners to take cultural considerations\u2014tikanga M\u0101ori and the expectations of other cultures\u2014into account, particularly around deciding when wh\u0101nau can remain with their t\u016Bp\u0101paku, with their loved one who has passed on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000517\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EAnd so I must, I feel, as is appropriate in this third reading, recount that story when, I think in 2016, Metiria Turei raised with the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee the problem, the issue of not enough consideration. There were many, many stories from decades, actually, and from all around the country of things going wrong for wh\u0101nau at a time where stress is at its high point when people have lost their loved one, and the exchanges between agencies and between organisations\u2014you know, a wide cross-section, whether it\u2019s coroners or police or hospitals, undertakers, and so on\u2014with that wh\u0101nau in extreme grief and stress become harmed by the process and add further injury to, already, pain. Metiria Turei raised it in the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee: can we look into this? And, of course, every single person on the select committee had their own associations and stories\u2014M\u0101ori or non-M\u0101ori\u2014of how we could do better and how traumatised people can become in that moment of grief when those exchanges go wrong, when those processes go wrong.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000518\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo the inquiry was born and carried through over a couple of select committees, actually, and into this present select committee, where I acknowledge our chair, Rino Tirikatene, and all the members of the previous select committee. I actually do want to say their names again\u2014the previous Parliament\u2019s select committee: Chester Borrows; Nuk Korako, of course as chair; Pita Paraone; Jo Hayes; Marama Fox; myself\u2014because there was a clear agreement that we would take this inquiry through. Everyone had their experiences from all different backgrounds. I remember Mr Chester Borrows from his police background having seen firsthand, again and again and again and again, where it could go wrong and how it could improve. So we took this through, and one of the recommendations that came out of the report in the inquiry picked up on this very recommendation: this very bill that we are finalising today in the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000519\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo the recommendation was a sort of an overview of improving cultural consideration as one of the top umbrella recommendations. And a couple of points under that have been why we are able to make an amendment in this bill where section 26 of the Act requires coroners, \u201Cwhen determining whether a person should be allowed to remain with the t\u016Bp\u0101paku, to also consider tikanga M\u0101ori and expectations of other cultures.\u201D So I\u2019m incredibly pleased to see this starting point of that inquiry and the recommendations from the report into that inquiry be picked up by this House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000520\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EWe\u2019ve got more work to do. On this third reading, and going forward, we also need to look at capacity issues of the coronial system and pick up on the Law Commission\u2019s report of 2015 around death, burial, and such matters. So we\u2019ve certainly got a pathway forward. The capacity issue was a massive one, actually, that we heard about in full alarm.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000521\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EWith the rest of my time, I\u2019d like to acknowledge some of the stories of why this particular bill is so important, and particularly for wh\u0101nau. I believe the Hon Shane Jones referred to other cases, particularly the death of a baby. The death of a baby is, well, the worst thing that can happen, I think\u2014the separation of that baby from wh\u0101nau\u2014and there are still mamas, in particular, living with the trauma of a process gone wrong. I\u2019m being very general because that\u2019s not my story\u2014it\u2019s the people who gave it to me; it\u2019s their story\u2014but I do want to refer to it as a general example without stealing their story from them, but for the purposes of this bill, I really want to go back to the core of why this is so incredibly important, and that we at least can also raise awareness.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000522\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EThis is a win-win-win for everybody. When we have got wh\u0101nau who are feeling as supported and as loved as they can feel in a moment of utter grief, that is going to also improve the interactions across all agencies and personnel at the time of death. So a coroner being able to show some leadership in taking tikanga M\u0101ori into account is going to really help that. People just want to be able to grieve how they want. They want to be able to preserve their tikanga\u2014whatever their tikanga is\u2014and we have an obligation and a duty to allow that care approach to happen. We also understand the benefits of that in being able to help wh\u0101nau through that process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000523\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo I\u2019m just really acknowledging the whakapapa, the baton that I received from Metiria Turei, the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee\u2019s work and support on this inquiry, the bill, and the Minister Andrew Little having the good sense to pick up that particular recommendation and bring it through the House, which in my mind is a commitment that we\u2019ve got more work to do. This is a fantastic starting point. I look forward to when wh\u0101nau can just deal with their grief and not any other injury that happens upon them from shoddy processes\u2014when wh\u0101nau can simply be left to do the job of grieving and are supported as much as possible through the coronial process in that situation. So, without anything further, Madam Assistant Speaker, thank you very much for the opportunity to assist this bill to its place in our law books today. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f96cdca1-b63c-4602-b2b3-276f58ebb518\u0022 data-id=\u002290729e225cfe4fb1b926ad0783a3f114\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000524\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f96cdca1-b63c-4602-b2b3-276f58ebb518\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002290729e225cfe4fb1b926ad0783a3f114\u0022\u003ECHRIS PENK (National\u2014Helensville):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker, for the opportunity to join others on both sides of the House in commending the Coroners (Access to Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill in this the third and final reading. We\u2019ve heard from others with experience in the professional sphere, and I acknowledge Harete Hipango; those with personal stories, and I acknowledge the Hon Shane Jones, who gave a couple of moving accounts from recent and past experiences in his wh\u0101nau and connections that he has had; and also the procedural, and I acknowledge the outline by Marama Davidson of the history of this bill coming to this place. My own perspective will be, briefly, historical, and also with some thoughts about some philosophy about the relationship between the State and its citizens as reflected in this very helpful amendment to our statute book.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000525\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f96cdca1-b63c-4602-b2b3-276f58ebb518\u0022\u003EThe word \u201Ccoroner\u201D literally means an officer of the Crown, going back to the days when, in the Anglo-Norman phase of English history, the coroners, as they became known, were responsible for collecting local records of proceedings in which the Crown had jurisdiction; also, collecting certain revenues and, relevant to the modern function, of course, investigating suspicious deaths. It was in that latter, as well as the other types of function, that it was acknowledged then, and perhaps more so now, that the awesome power of the State over its citizens should be exercised in a way that reflects the seriousness of the role that they carry out but is also sensitive to the rights of subjects. Of course, we are talking about a balance in this piece of legislation, and more particularly in the amendment that\u2019s before us now, in understanding that coroners have an important function both in medical terms and in legal terms but also needing, of course, to understand the sensitivities around the cultural considerations, in particular, that arise when circumstances of a person being dead do arise and need to be taken into account.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000526\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f96cdca1-b63c-4602-b2b3-276f58ebb518\u0022\u003EI\u2019ll just pause briefly for a moment to note that, in legal terms, a dead person is not a person, and, of course, by definition a person is a living person and has human rights on that basis. But that\u2019s something of a legal fiction, because, of course, a recently deceased person\u2014and, indeed, maybe a person throughout time immemorial, according to the beliefs of some\u2014will always be a person and not merely, in that moment when they\u2019ve recently deceased, a collection of human tissue or merely cells and so forth. And so, from a cultural perspective, of course that person is indeed very much still a member of a family, a wh\u0101nau, and so on. So it is important that, notwithstanding that legal fiction about the status of the physical body, in fact we do need to be sensitive to the dignity of that person and also, of course, the loved ones who are left behind. In particular, in circumstances where a coronial investigation would be under way, naturally, there would be oftentimes circumstances to imagine that the stress and the grieving would be particularly heightened.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000527\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f96cdca1-b63c-4602-b2b3-276f58ebb518\u0022\u003ESo it\u2019s balancing these practical, pragmatic considerations of the legal and medical aspects to learn the lessons but also perhaps to prepare in some cases, sadly for a criminal context, to understand the circumstances, balanced against the human needs of that person themselves and their family and wh\u0101nau, that this piece of legislation seeks to achieve. And that balance, I think, is well reflected in the fact that we talk in what will be the new section 26(2)(ea) of ethnic origins, social attitudes or customs, or spiritual beliefs, and so forth. That seems to me appropriate, as does the giving of an example of the right of persons to view, touch, or remain with or near the body\u2014for example, the customary requirement under tikanga M\u0101ori. And that seems, to me, an appropriate example because it reflects, as is the case in this country, something of a first among equals status, whereby we acknowledge that, in many cases, for wh\u0101nau it will be particularly significant for this right for these considerations to be taken into account but also understanding that other ethnic and spiritual and religious and cultural considerations will mean that others too feel a particular need to be able to do these things and to grieve in a way that\u2019s appropriate to them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000528\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f96cdca1-b63c-4602-b2b3-276f58ebb518\u0022\u003EThese are considerations that are to be taken into account now. That seems to me entirely appropriate. The coroner will be able to do what he or she needs to be able to do, but taking into account this sensitivity, understanding that the power of the State is to be exercised in that way seems entirely appropriate. So, with no further hesitation, I\u2019m pleased to join others among the assembled contributors to this debate in the House in commending this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022 data-id=\u00228a55151c9263413d92eec4d8d74bae2c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000529\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228a55151c9263413d92eec4d8d74bae2c\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams)\u003C/span\u003E: I understand this is a split call.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022 data-id=\u002211d071d8c7b6450ab3e9df07cfcde55a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000530\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002211d071d8c7b6450ab3e9df07cfcde55a\u0022\u003EJAN TINETTI (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Assistant Speaker. I remember speaking on this bill in its first reading and at the time thinking that while it seems a small piece of legislation, it\u2019s actually a very important piece of legislation, because we\u2019re actually including cultural beliefs, including tikanga M\u0101ori, into this important area.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000531\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003EIt was only last week when I was at an event and I had a wh\u0101nau member come up to me and say how they\u2019d actually been following the progress of this bill. I was quite surprised, so I actually engaged in conversation around this. They\u2019d had a rather unpleasant experience through an unfortunate death that they\u2019d had in their family where they\u2019d felt confused and isolated through the process. They felt that this legislation, while it codifies good practice and practice that\u2019s currently happening, also ensures that where it\u2019s not happening, it\u2019s going to occur in future. It was really, really important to that particular wh\u0101nau member.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000532\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003EI spoke in the first reading about my own experiences growing up around death and how that, for a long time, in my\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022 data-id=\u002229505a8ecc0c46228ab5467878e2974c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000533\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002229505a8ecc0c46228ab5467878e2974c\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Poto Williams)\u003C/span\u003E: I apologise to the member. This debate is interrupted and is set down for resumption next sitting day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000534\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003EDebate interrupted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000535\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 6 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20181213c3d43e3059784ba7bd6f723dc3f8aa25000536\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"