"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022dddfce6b34284f9aa97f0a30b4c969d1\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 12 SEPTEMBER 2019\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c4d5c13b646049d8b85726e037c0408b\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 12 SEPTEMBER 2019\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000002\u0022\u003EThe Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000004\u0022\u003EKarakia.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00229efdc5d30b654bcdbc58ca50a9797174\u0022\u003ESpeaker\u2019s Statements\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022896bb37945154ef784a972aec0e871b8\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Land Wars\u2014Unveiling of Commemorative Plaque\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u002292d93b56214d4a5ea779c108f5de28c7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002292d93b56214d4a5ea779c108f5de28c7\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Members, earlier this morning we have unveiled a plaque commemorating the New Zealand Wars of the 19th century. This plaque joins others on the walls of this House acknowledging and honouring New Zealanders who have lost their lives in conflicts. I would now like members to join me in a moment\u2019s silence as we remember those who lost their lives in the New Zealand Wars.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003EMembers stood as a mark of respect.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002281a81da9b9b44007af31a664f0075b0b\u0022\u003EObituaries\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f5121daedcaa49a0979eb2cbe9f5f277\u0022\u003ERt Hon \u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022d2b010fb8882475284d6e4307ffb7e25\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d2b010fb8882475284d6e4307ffb7e25\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave to move a motion without notice on the passing of the Rt Hon \u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva, the Prime Minister of Tonga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002222a148fafbcb4e9bb78c59f85f808197\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Is there any objection to that? There appears to be none.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002280e67edde4b8489f8fee0a271b8009dc\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: I move, That this House express its sadness at the passing of the Prime Minister of the Kingdom of Tonga, Rt Hon \u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva, who passed away earlier today, Thursday, 12 September 2019, and place on record its gratitude for the contribution that he has made to the Kingdom of Tonga and to furthering the interests of the Pacific region.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EFurther, we convey deep sympathy to the Rt Hon \u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva\u2019s family and to the people of the Kingdom of Tonga. The Rt Hon \u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva passed away this morning in Auckland aged 78 after having been medevaced to New Zealand yesterday. We extend our condolences to his family and to the people of Tonga. Prime Minister P\u014Dhiva was an elder statesman of the Pacific and a great friend to New Zealand. I\u2019ve just been told that he was the longest serving member of Parliament in Tonga, some 32 years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EHe\u2019ll be remembered for his lifelong commitment to championing democracy. He was always committed to broadening democracy and contributed much of his life to this cause, and for that reason was a standout figure in the Pacific. He was also a powerful advocate for Pacific regionalism, demonstrated at the Pacific Islands Forum Leaders Meeting in Tuvalu, where he advocated for climate change action and regional solidarity. Our thoughts are with the people of Tonga and the extended P\u014Dhiva family.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022695678cf-542a-4616-9e0a-86990caec192\u0022 data-id=\u0022c9b7710ef9dd445aa0c93ea230da8002\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022695678cf-542a-4616-9e0a-86990caec192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c9b7710ef9dd445aa0c93ea230da8002\u0022\u003EHon ALFRED NGARO (National):\u003C/span\u003E I too on behalf of the National Party want to speak to this notice of motion and give our condolences to not only the P\u014Dhiva family but also the Kingdom of Tonga. \u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva was a man that was born on 17 April 1941 and lived his life until today, in which he passed away. He was a Tongan pro-democracy activist and politician and had quite a significant and substantial life in leading the democratic rule of Government in Tonga itself. He was the leader of the Democratic Party of the Friendly Islands and served as Prime Minister of Tonga from 2014 to his death in 2019 of today. He was only the fourth commoner to serve as a Prime Minister, after a number of other distinguished members of Parliament and Prime Ministers as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022695678cf-542a-4616-9e0a-86990caec192\u0022\u003EP\u014Dhiva was not only the longest-serving people\u2019s representative of Tonga in the Tongan Parliament, having first served since elected in 1987, he also, too, had quite a substantial political career, and it was marked by constant battles with the Tongan democracy and monarchy and transparency issues. In 1996, he was imprisoned for contempt of Parliament on the order of Legislative Assembly for reporting on parliamentary proceedings.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022695678cf-542a-4616-9e0a-86990caec192\u0022\u003EMr Speaker, and to the House, he was an advocate, he was an activist, but more importantly he was a person and a man who was standing for the rights and the democracy of a nation. So we want to honour and acknowledge him in this House. I finish by reciting a Tongan proverb that states this: Mapaki e faa ka \u2018oku kei \u2018alaha. \u201CThe pandanus nut breaks from the tree, yet its aroma lingers.\u201D It reflects the legacy that he leaves behind, not only for his family, not only for the Kingdom of Tonga, but the whole of the Pacific region, and we acknowledge his passing today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u0022568ec4aee5674dbfae74741a469fe012\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022568ec4aee5674dbfae74741a469fe012\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E E kara. E te rangatira, e P\u014Dhiva, ka riro koe ki tawhiti nui, ki tawhiti roa, ki tawhiti p\u0101mamao ki tua o te \u0101rai. Haere atu. Moe atu. Ka whakar\u0113rea mai e koe he tauira hei whai m\u0101 te marea i roto i ng\u0101 moemoe\u0101. I pau i a koe t\u014D kaha katoa ki te whakatutuki kia mana ai te marea ki waenga tonu i ng\u0101 motu me te rangatiratanga kei t\u014D motu, a Tonga. N\u0101 reira, e kara, e moe, moe oti atu e.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[Sir. The leader, P\u014Dhiva, you have been taken afar to beyond the veil. Go peacefully. Rest in peace. You have left behind an example to the many in your tireless pursuit of democracy for your general public and independence for your island of Tonga. Therefore, my friend, rest easy, rest in peace.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI rise very briefly on behalf of New Zealand First to acknowledge the passing of the Rt Hon \u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva, someone I worked with, someone my leader knew very well. Let us not forget, although this man was of ill health in more recent years, for Tongan reform, for democracy, no light burned brighter than this man. Not only did he face charges of treason, not only was he harassed for his beliefs; in the end, he rose to be the Prime Minister and brought a level of equity to the political culture of Tonga. He was very proud. He advocated for the Pacific and the Polynesian community more broadly in a range of both Pacific and international fora. Today, New Zealand has lost a great friend.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022 data-id=\u00222a328d31de564c16941f5ffaad27cf73\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222a328d31de564c16941f5ffaad27cf73\u0022\u003EMARAMA DAVIDSON (Co-Leader\u2014Green):\u003C/span\u003E He mihi aroha t\u0113nei ki a ia Te Pirimia o Tonga, \u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva, me tana wh\u0101nau, tana wahine a Neomai P\u014Dhiva, me \u0101na tamariki katoa. N\u014D reira, kei te mihi, kei te mihi, kei te mihi. Haere atu r\u0101 ki ng\u0101 whet\u016B, ki ng\u0101 t\u016Bpuna. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EHe tangata kaha t\u0113nei ki te t\u016B ki te tautoko m\u014D te manapori, m\u014D te Paremata, m\u014D ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EHe tangata kaha t\u0113nei, i haere ia ki te whare herehere m\u014D te mahi tut\u016B ana te puehu, n\u014D reira, he tangata m\u0101haki ia m\u014D \u0101na hapori, he tangata t\u016B kaha ki te whawhai m\u014D ng\u0101 whenua, m\u014D ng\u0101 moutere o te Moana-nui-a-Kiwa, o ana moutere o Tonga. N\u014D reira, e mihi ana te wh\u0101nau o ng\u0101 K\u0101k\u0101riki ki a r\u0101tou, ki a t\u0101tou, aku hoa kaimahi n\u014D Tonga, ki ng\u0101 hapori o Tonga kei k\u014Dnei ki Aotearoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ET\u0113nei tangata m\u0101haki tangata kaha; t\u0113nei tangata e t\u016B ana ki te taha o ng\u0101 mokopuna, ng\u0101 reanga kei te haere mai ki te tiaki i te whenua, i te moana hoki, m\u0101 r\u0101tou ng\u0101 reanga. N\u014D reira, he mihi pono, he mihi; n\u014Dku te honore ki te mihi aroha ki a ia, ki a r\u0101tou hoki. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E[I pass on my condolences to the Prime Minister of Tonga, \u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva, and his family, his wife, Neomai P\u014Dhiva, and all of his children. So, my condolences. Go to the stars, go to the ancestors.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EHe is man who stood up for democracy, for Parliament, for people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EHe was a strong man, he went to jail because of his protest, alas, he was a man who cared deeply for his community, he stood strong in the fight for land, for the islands of the Pacific and for his islands of Tonga. Therefore, the Green family acknowledge them and my work colleagues from Tonga, as well as the community of Tonga right here in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EThis caring man, strong man; this man who stood alongside grandchildren, the generation that has come to protect the land, protect the seas, by them, the generations. Finally, my sincere condolences; it is an honour of mine to pass my condolences to him and to all. Thank you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022 data-id=\u0022f9e4f4fdb827476e943b857ec5ce847a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f9e4f4fdb827476e943b857ec5ce847a\u0022\u003EDAVID SEYMOUR (Leader\u2014ACT):\u003C/span\u003E On behalf of the ACT Party I\u2019d like to join with other leaders in acknowledging the sad passing of \u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva. I think any brave pioneer of parliamentary democracy such as him is well deserving of the recognition of this House, particularly when he did that pioneering in a Pacific country that is a close, important friend and neighbour of New Zealand. Our thoughts and condolences are with his family and with the people of Tonga. Thank you, Mr Speaker. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ed2d9fa5b2e647ddb769ea7b88423f25\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e63e7aee961e4ae0b7360dc9d6dd6544\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022daec115d4b364225978bf3243a30869e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022daec115d4b364225978bf3243a30869e\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Next week, the House will consider the third reading of the Appropriation (2019/20 Estimates) Bill. An imprest supply bill will be taken along with the third reading. Other legislation to be included next week will include the first reading of the Public Finance (Wellbeing) Amendment Bill, the committee stage of the New Zealand Infrastructure Commission/Te Waihanga Bill and the K\u0101inga Ora\u2014Homes and Communities Bill, and the third reading of the Education (School Donations) Amendment Bill. On Thursday, 19 September the Ng\u0101ti Hinerangi Claims Settlement Bill will have its first reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022ec5c388b7ba44087b2a9c8f59f1b8a77\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ec5c388b7ba44087b2a9c8f59f1b8a77\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (National\u2014Ilam):\u003C/span\u003E Noticing that the select committees have no legislation coming back into the House during the September sitting, is the Leader of the House confident there will be enough first readings to keep the House busy during those weeks?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u00221f7c77b407b545bcb13055c641600ba9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221f7c77b407b545bcb13055c641600ba9\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Not only are there a number of first readings coming, there are also a number of committee stages currently listed on the Order Paper, although, given that a bill passed through the House the other night, through its committee stage, with only two speeches from the Opposition\u2014on a bill that they oppose\u2014I wouldn\u2019t be surprised if we make reasonably rapid progress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00226486228bb3a34fd182e0a6ae25c0d098\u0022\u003EOral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c1b3def4bb1742b9835608f866b18dbc\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a2deaa8eea8b4a4580cc2fa58729c86c\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 1\u2014Prime Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022 data-id=\u0022faa3e1065b494feea91437cadfa4ff88\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022faa3e1065b494feea91437cadfa4ff88\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT (Deputy Leader\u2014National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all her statements and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u002216a32c49c937498da2660cd1baad7361\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002216a32c49c937498da2660cd1baad7361\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for M\u0101ori Crown Relations: Te Arawhiti)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Prime Minister: E k\u014Drero ana ahau m\u014D Te Pirimia. \u0100e, ka whakap\u016Bmau i tana whakaatutanga i te ata nei. \u0100 te tau 2022 ka whakaakongia te h\u012Btori o Aotearoa kei roto i ng\u0101 kura katoa. E p\u0113nei ana tana korero: i whakarongo m\u0101tou ki ng\u0101 karanga o te motu; he mea tika kia whakam\u014Dhio ai t\u0101tou i t\u014D t\u0101tou h\u012Btori me \u014D t\u0101tou tuakiri. N\u014D reira he mea tika kia m\u014Dhiotia wh\u0101nuitia kei roto i Te Marautanga o Aotearoa me whakaakongia aua h\u012Btori hei w\u0101hanga o te marau \u0101-rohe me te marau \u0101-kura kei roto i ia kura puta noa i te motu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[I am speaking on behalf of the Prime Minister. Yes, she stands by her announcement this morning. By the year 2022, the history of New Zealand will be taught in all schools. Her statement is: we listened to the call of the country; it is appropriate that we are made aware of our history and our identity. So it is right that it should be widely known in the New Zealand Curriculum, those histories should be taught as a part of the local curriculum and school curriculum in every school all across the country.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d7402f061452430bb1ed764fbe5017d0\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she still stand by her statement that the first she knew of the sexual assault allegations against her staff member was when The Spinoff ran an article on it on Monday, despite the fact that she was asked about those allegations by the media five weeks ago?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221855d0636f364c56a9ef02ddf1728df4\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Ka t\u016B p\u016Bmau Te Pirimia ki \u0101na k\u014Drero katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[The Prime Minister stands by all her statements.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c0760e83a934c22aac74b7900a24580\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she believe in a victim-led response involving specialists in dealing with sexual abuse to help with the sorts of situations involving her staff member?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022afb30b00f08b47f883cb78dee2404266\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: \u0100e.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ed5d9916ce884352b349566977e31f3f\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Will she be calling in specialist services to help with the process that\u2019s been handled so badly so far?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228ac0f19bcffe484bb581c299faee251a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member has just reflected on me. She will ask the question without the reflection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c1f5aa4d829543358b60cc3502a21b7c\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Will she be calling in specialist services to help with the situations that are currently happening and making sure that the process is better than it has been previously?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022980ef32c4e6e4c6ab3c55be60179433e\u0022\u003EHon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The Prime Minister has no responsibility for the question that Paula Bennett has just asked.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aeb0919ae8274773b8e168b73f29fa98\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, there\u2019s no responsibility for the answer, I think the member means. Paula Bennett, further question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022af26cd6844b14e75b47a5b06a91cd6cc\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m not sure what that means. Can she state in the House today that she will ensure that a victim-led response will happen when there are incidences of sexual assault?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223b305c7eaae3451badd27b2c5f065ff3\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Ko te hiahia a Te Pirimia kia tautokongia r\u0101tou kua t\u016Bkino ai, kua whakapae kua t\u016Bkino, \u0101e, i ng\u0101 w\u0101 katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[The Prime Minister\u2019s desire is that all those who have been assaulted, or allege that they have been assaulted, be supported always.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224e1c6c937a6d4c21a78c8fbb00296ec5\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Order! I\u2019m going to ask the Minister to start his answer again, for I don\u2019t think any of the members are, I think\u2014I do want to make it clear to the House that, because of the late night and the fact that some of us didn\u2019t get home last night, there\u2019s one set of hearing aids that never got their charge. But I think all members are suffering from a hearing problem at the moment through the lack of interpretation, so I\u2019m therefore going to ask the Hon Kelvin Davis to start the answer on behalf of the Prime Minister again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022619d82d4d5194f48bc73e035884cb9fe\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Ko te hiahia a Te Pirimia kia tautokongia r\u0101tou e whakapae ana kua t\u016Bkinohia r\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[The Prime Minister\u2019s desire is that those who allege they have been assaulted be supported.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fa41c38af0714e948a85679e19371801\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Has she asked senior staff in her office why they did not inform her of the various serious allegations around her staff member?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002232e5c35b46b84813b0e89ad87de20974\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Ko t\u0113nei kaupapa he kaupapa m\u014D te p\u0101ti hei whakatikatikangia.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[This matter is for the party to address.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dbe1437c7a104a468abb86f0415aec60\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she agree with the statement of the deputy leader of the Labour Party, the Hon Kelvin Davis, who stated in the House yesterday that these allegations were all based on rumour?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022165354dd491d4dbc9a1bcaf977e805b9\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Ko aua whakap\u0101keh\u0101tanga o aua k\u014Drero e \u0101hua rangirua ana, i te mea ng\u0101 kupu M\u0101ori horekau he tikanga kotahi m\u014D w\u0113tahi o ng\u0101 kupu p\u0113r\u0101 i te kupu \u201Cwhakapae\u201D, p\u0113r\u0101 i te kupu \u201Ck\u014Dhimuhimu\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[Those translations of those words are somewhat confused because M\u0101ori words don\u2019t have one single meaning for some of those words, for example, the word \u201Cwhakapae\u201D and the word \u201Ck\u014Dhimuhimu\u201D.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b361115eb50542d3967cffa1a5487694\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I\u2019m sorry, I think, maybe, the translation then, as well, was quite unclear, and I just ask if we could perhaps even have the translation again so that I just understand for a follow-up question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d313aa0b6d3449c969ba37c55cede11\u0022\u003EHon Shane Jones\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order, so I can provide some direction, just because you hear rumours\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002272044ebb1d2d47fbab06f3ecd0e7dbc9\u0022\u003EHon Gerry Brownlee\u003C/span\u003E: No, that\u2019s not a point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022293ace51c9064ebfb8d78772460ac092\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Who interjected then?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002286b750478a074fb589ba108992f36c3e\u0022\u003EHon Gerry Brownlee\u003C/span\u003E: I did.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002240dc7269b36d417d8df8cd962a702fb3\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Stand, withdraw, and apologise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226cc3af9eb23b48a1a709f36b59c6acbf\u0022\u003EHon Gerry Brownlee\u003C/span\u003E: I withdraw and apologise. Point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aaa411a7ef654bdaa537de20f067831c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. I\u2019m hearing one.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c6d1c8e06164d6989991db079caf74d\u0022\u003EHon Shane Jones\u003C/span\u003E: Sir, this is the week of Te Reo M\u0101ori, and just because you hear the word \u201Caccusation\u201D and \u201Crumour\u201D doesn\u2019t mean it\u2019s a fact.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222b139207254348b5a9fe00110e9fc97a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, that was, Mr Jones, most unhelpful and, I think, almost certainly designed to cause disruption. He will stand, withdraw, and apologise. It was not a point of order, and the member has\u2014I know he doesn\u2019t pay close attention to these things, but he\u2019s been here long enough to know that that was not a point of order. He will stand, withdraw, and apologise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227567019abc1d49c3be9d8974a68b73ca\u0022\u003EHon Shane Jones\u003C/span\u003E: I withdraw and apologise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022765f3dbb7aa24bd186c6c0dcd43ee6f6\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m going to ask Paula Bennett to ask her question again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227ac15b257bb14895bbaf14a3e2da6d0e\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: My question was: does she agree with the statement of the deputy leader of the Labour Party, the Hon Kelvin Davis, who stated in the House yesterday that these allegations were all based on rumour?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220183681643cd4ec092f01ca607783767\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. Before the member answers that question, the problem that I have is that I have the translation of what Mr Davis said, and\u2014well, I have a translation of what Mr Davis said, and he did use what has been translated for me as the word \u201Crumour\u201D, but it did not\u2014it applied to the member\u2019s party, and not to the comments that the member made about the issue which this member is now asking about.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224bcfa0ffce9544ecac50fdd904923630\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry, sir, but\u2014point of order\u2014I too have looked very carefully at the transcript, or else wouldn\u2019t be making this statement, and, I\u2019m sorry, I interpret it quite differently: that it is quite clear that he was stating that I was making allegations, in the speech previous to him, that were based on rumour.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002210fcb100b5434ef08cef5d2ab6658680\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it\u2019s clear that we have a translation issue, and I am going to let the Prime Minister answer, but with the advantage of, probably, some extra ability to translate. But I do want to make it clear to the Hon Paula Bennett that in the translation that I have, the only time the word \u201Crumour\u201D occurs in it, it does not relate to\u2014it relates to matters of last year. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022050b53a55eb14ff4b1b48253e0d1cbe5\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: E Te M\u0101ngai, koia te raruraru o te rerek\u0113tanga i waenganui i te \u201Ctranslation\u201D me te \u201Cinterpretation\u201D o te kaiwhakap\u0101keh\u0101tia.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[Mr Speaker, that is the problem of the disparity between the \u201Ctranslation\u201D and the \u201Cinterpretation\u201D of the translator.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022731b8d1b870d4b8e8fbd826613e368cc\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Can the Prime Minister ask Kelvin Davis, then, what he meant when he made statements in this House in M\u0101ori yesterday that quite clearly were objectifying and saying that it was allegations of rumour? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dd9c4016ef2f4ab79227444767e230a4\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Ka kite ana ahau i a Kelvin Davis, m\u0101ku e p\u0101tai atu ki a ia.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[When I see Kelvin Davis, I\u2019ll ask him.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea9ea1586c0145a986d3dd5d4522c5b7\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she think that it\u2019s appropriate to make fun of the fact that there are such serious allegations going on at the moment and such chaos and disarray by senior members of this House? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b4965529f8f14424819d865a509e0a24\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. No, the member will ask a question that\u2019s within\u2014if she wants to\u2014the Standing Orders. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229a24751d554a45a38aa768a6b6b626b8\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she still stand by her statement that victims should go to one of their line managers and that no senior people in her office had received a complaint? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ee0f26d627234c6695858393727b622a\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: \u0100e. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c742da8961f74ef7aca8611f000aa961\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Is she stating, then, that the victims are not telling the truth? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227bf94d96a4ba49008343c2eb64a9f555\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: K\u0101o. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a3e8a430f7a44e39ae43c72686ef1321\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Then, how does the answer to both those questions add up, when the victims have absolutely stated that they made a complaint to one of her senior managers? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227d24e846c07144b88039c1a63074c33e\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: I te mea e tika ana aku whakautu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[Because my answers are true.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222e4c84abf36247beaa215d497cd7a4d5\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she still stand by her statement that no victims have gone to any senior staff within the Prime Minister\u2019s office or the leader\u2019s office to make complaints around an alleged offender? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002214231be53c7a4c88854471a225d914d6\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Ka t\u016B p\u016Bmau, ka tautokongia e Te Pirimia \u0101na k\u014Drero katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[The Prime Minister stands by and supports all her statements.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022977cccaf-581d-4f48-924e-32bf6c54a93d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022054875212f504dfc9dca9de258fb0476\u0022\u003EHon Anne Tolley\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I\u2019m sorry, I don\u2019t have hearing aids but I got no translation. Is that just me? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022936d3ab78cc64324a63f2e7b3160ee0f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think it\u2019s just you, in this case. I did. Well, I\u2019ll tell you what the interpreter said: the Prime Minister will stand by all her words. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b26db1ba1d2541a8b45bdbda360c14bd\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 2\u2014Regional Economic Development\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022919a8e8d-afaf-4342-ad6f-71cbb6024544\u0022 data-id=\u002262699bb8a0b34d24a044ee07ad3db83c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022919a8e8d-afaf-4342-ad6f-71cbb6024544\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002262699bb8a0b34d24a044ee07ad3db83c\u0022\u003ECLAYTON MITCHELL (NZ First)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: What recent progress has been made on Provincial Growth Fund projects?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u002269b1c43989d646feb1a0e567190c774e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002269b1c43989d646feb1a0e567190c774e\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (Minister for Regional Economic Development):\u003C/span\u003E Last week, I engaged in some fiscal DIY. On behalf of the Crown, I had the pleasure to go to one of the busiest wharves in Tai Tokerau in Aotearoa\u2014Koror\u0101reka, the Russell wharf\u2014where, after I had applied a paintbrush, there was a positive fiscal glow to that part of New Zealand. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022919a8e8d-afaf-4342-ad6f-71cbb6024544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002297dfc60f7ea44c21b135d80dbad9521b\u0022\u003EClayton Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: What other projects are nearing completion in the Bay of Islands? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224c14fc9d20504dddb82eca9ee7a9e874\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES\u003C/span\u003E: The economic heart of the Northland area is beating rapidly in anticipation of more good news both this year and next year, which will not come in the form of a white elephant. The Russell wharf funding announced, along with \u014Cpua and Paihia, shows that we believe in our communities who want to create new opportunities for economic growth and community participation, and ensure that the infrastructure is futureproofed via the Provincial Growth Fund (PGF), not for the big end of town but for the garden-variety Kiwis who, coincidentally and happily, live in the North. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022919a8e8d-afaf-4342-ad6f-71cbb6024544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002246b3be9f9a9043b79f94db4e84bc29da\u0022\u003EClayton Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: What progress has been seen on PGF projects in Taranaki?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ba2157e7550e4d239d04a305ceed2aa8\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES\u003C/span\u003E: To dispel rather cruel rumours that there is a very strong northern focus to the fiscal glow, recently I was in Taranaki upon the maunga\u2014although in Taranaki it is called the m\u014Dunga; although that word in my tribe means a large piece of firewood. I am pleased to say that the feasibility study was very positive and a sum of $13.3 million has been allocated to upgrade the infrastructure, involve the local iwi, and ensure that Taranaki Mounga represents a new set of opportunities for jobs, for tourism growth, and for export earnings as foreigners come to New Zealand and spend money and enjoy an area that is feeling the positive attention of this Government\u2014i.e., the Taranaki region.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002204553e492d234a05828fea3ce7b91387\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 3\u2014Women\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022 data-id=\u0022d784b890686c4a75a5b186417641b3a2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d784b890686c4a75a5b186417641b3a2\u0022\u003EHon PAULA BENNETT (Deputy Leader\u2014National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Women: Does she believe all women in New Zealand should feel safe from sexual and physical violence in the workplace?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022 data-id=\u0022d8bd3384afcb4c8f95b42c527d7b8d16\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d8bd3384afcb4c8f95b42c527d7b8d16\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER (Minister for Women):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, absolutely.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022720b5a86ed6f496ba43912366a84c756\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she agree that people in positions of power who encourage women in the workplace to stay silent and not go to the police when they allege they have been victims of sexual assault do more harm to the victims?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022303357cf9c594ed48e7d9732f93d3e3a\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002242d77e34f68b46c5a1dca196f633ddb0\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Is it the responsibility of line managers and senior staff who get told of instances of sexual harassment to report that to her central registry that now collects data on sexual harassment in the workplace?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022605d3bce7f5349e9b952e3f4409d5d4f\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER\u003C/span\u003E: I do think that it is important that if it is the wishes of the complainants in the case, then that should be reported to the relevant manager, yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220c86b763bdc943ee8e1dc45c52fa7c30\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Does she believe men in a position of power conducting a witch-hunt to find out who it was that might, for instance, have spoken to the media make women feel safe from sexual and physical violence in the workplace?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea06fba8c5a24a5f96e5e329ed68069c\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER\u003C/span\u003E: What I can say is bullying, sexual harassment, and sexual assault are all very serious problems right across society. No institution is immune from them; the Francis review has shown that in Parliament, and we all have a responsibility to make sure that women are safe and that there are victim-centred inquiries into these matters.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229fd38ffd8713431dbc0ffc006ba2f899\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: What does she consider a victim-centred response to be?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002245f0e3ad3900441aa9d648056cfa3d4a\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER\u003C/span\u003E: I think that there are best practice examples, but, ultimately, the wishes of the complainants must be taken into account in the way in which the process is undertaken.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002263776108-58dc-4cab-baf1-95282c61d0de\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002266a87ef3c9e7427e94321cd0bb697d77\u0022\u003EHon Paula Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Has she had any concerns about sexual assault allegations by people employed in Parliament of late?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e6e0c82715044aff8d84ef43f3710ad7\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER\u003C/span\u003E: I always have concerns about any reported cases of sexual assault or sexual harassment in Parliament. I have had no specific knowledge or personal knowledge of any of those complaints.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002292d4f58c6e51471682a2c28670529b51\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 4\u2014Education\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f677db8b-66c5-4794-953c-bdf7aa425710\u0022 data-id=\u0022a984f9230cd646be8b9b4ed8cea6a588\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f677db8b-66c5-4794-953c-bdf7aa425710\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a984f9230cd646be8b9b4ed8cea6a588\u0022\u003EMARJA LUBECK (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Education: What actions is the Government taking to reduce costs for families in the public education system?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022fb7c8daee3824785bdb5b59b83684099\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fb7c8daee3824785bdb5b59b83684099\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E The Government is implementing a school donation scheme for deciles 1 to 7 schools. This means that, as of 1 January next year, up to 1,700 schools will receive funding of $150 per student so that they can stop directly asking parents for money or charge for anything associated with the delivery of the Curriculum. We know how difficult it is for parents to afford the donations that schools request and the pressure that it places on parents who aren\u2019t able to afford them. The Government is taking the pressure off families and putting the \u201Cfree\u201D back into our public education system.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f677db8b-66c5-4794-953c-bdf7aa425710\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002242805ab3c26e493dae699cffe1c2178b\u0022\u003EMarja Lubeck\u003C/span\u003E: What advice is available to parents so that they know what can and cannot be charged to them in public schooling?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ae4cbd3bd4cb4e33a054d7a007a7e258\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: Last week we released guidance for families on the Ministry of Education\u2019s website to help them understand what they can be asked to pay for in schools. An example of this would be an optional after-school swimming activity or school uniforms. Also, importantly, the guidance also provides clarity to families as to what is a voluntary donation and frequently used examples of these. We\u2019ve also published requirements for boards of trustees of the deciles 1 to 7 schools who are eligible for the scheme about what they can and cannot seek in the way of donations if they decide to opt into the scheme.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f677db8b-66c5-4794-953c-bdf7aa425710\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222ecca26478284e1fad71686e99edcfc2\u0022\u003EMarja Lubeck\u003C/span\u003E: What action is the Government taking to ensure that schools do not continue to ask parents for donations if they accept funding as part of the school donations scheme? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022626fb1aa906941cc93cef3ecba67d111\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: The legislation that\u2019s currently going through the House means that eligible schools that have accepted the funding from the Government but then continue to unlawfully seek voluntary donations from parents can have that money recovered from them. It\u2019s important that we protect the integrity of the scheme and make sure that the funding is doing exactly what it is meant to achieve. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f677db8b-66c5-4794-953c-bdf7aa425710\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002228294579fe80467d94b0ed823c84262a\u0022\u003EMarja Lubeck\u003C/span\u003E: What other funding has the Government delivered to remove costs from public schooling? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228ceffc93b12642258fd08e179b38970a\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: As part of this year\u2019s Budget, the Government scrapped fees for NCEA. More than 168,000 secondary school students will no longer have to pay fees in order to have their qualifications awarded. On top of this, 150,000 current and former students with unpaid NCEA fees will now be formally awarded their NCEA credits or qualifications. We\u2019re removing financial barriers to our public education system to make sure that all young people have the same chance to succeed. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00221b97f1b3b2374b998a6690df4f59bd14\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 5\u2014Finance\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u0022d8abda5f901b4b77be2048b5a3110b22\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d8abda5f901b4b77be2048b5a3110b22\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: Does he stand by all his statements, policies, and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022 data-id=\u00225c89454868704c19a6341f7dce78d561\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225c89454868704c19a6341f7dce78d561\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E \u0100e, in the context in which they were given, made, and undertaken. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228d3cb4fbc3cc4f32a7068b82b8f6401d\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: What changes is he proposing to bank regulations following the Reserve Bank and Financial Markets Authority\u2019s (FMA) conduct and culture review into that sector? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d1ccc4486744f72a0e9c4ee8f065d5e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m going to ask the member to ask the question again to relate it to the primary. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d4080c32426a43b38d7c6313cdd3a4c2\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: What policies has he changed in relation to bank regulations following the Reserve Bank and FMA\u2019s conduct and culture review into that sector? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221bb382c0a6ab41838494a63a99383e31\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: Announcements about that are forthcoming. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c71a20334c1c45789176ce37d0cbba53\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Does he expect higher standards of conduct from bank executives and a better culture? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f12a2bd83974495bb28af59296fb1a77\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: Indeed, I do believe that we are in an environment now where there\u2019s been a focus on the conduct of bank executives and, indeed, the governors of banks as well, and that the expectation of the public is that their conduct needs to be exemplary. As part of the review of phase two of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand Act, we are looking at the standards that are being brought in around executive accountability in Australia, as to whether they can be applied in New Zealand. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229a9b2173719a4ce4a97d1513441514c5\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with the Reserve Bank Governor\u2019s comments: \u201CCulture comes from the top and boards and senior managers at our financial institutions need to be leading by example.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e7f2572b7626480091a62639a8a52168\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: I find myself agreeing with the Reserve Bank Governor on a number of occasions. I think that there are many banks in New Zealand that could look at the culture and the conduct at the top and make sure that they meet the standards New Zealanders would expect. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022540cdd6b69a840dc80022a7c770838c8\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Is he happy with the standards of conduct demonstrated by his Government, and does he think his Government has a good culture? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223ca2d100fce04f7ea3539b4af31ec2e7\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: As the Minister of Finance, I believe that this is a Government that is doing great things for New Zealand and for the New Zealand economy. I believe that it is a Government that listens to New Zealanders, and I note, today, that the Minister responsible for the Earthquake Commission went and visited some of the people who are struggling with decisions that have been made in the past by agencies like Southern Response\u2014first time, I believe, a Minister has actually gone and done that kind of thing. That is the kind of culture and conduct that I think a Government should be proud of. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c443427717994787809f196fedaab426\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Would he expect senior figures in any industry to react promptly if they were aware of claims of serious misconduct? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f628754328aa48f0b7cbeaebd90d5b0c\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: Yes. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002261ad381e6c9941478a2abe447a3e7a99\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Then why did he say nothing when he knew about serious misconduct in his Government? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022412f18acc9b14816850b1d641bb7877e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member will resume his seat. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002243384d3e3fab4fe9932d0511ad8dbb65\u0022\u003EHon Members\u003C/span\u003E: Why? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f88bde367f824a93b7ca23b3a7951842\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the member knows that\u2019s out of order. He absolutely knows it\u2019s out of order. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223600bbbf7fe049edb8e8de8a41cd8ace\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I hesitate to do this, but you have been very strict on this side of the House when questions have been misused, in terms of your allocation process that you operate. I just wonder whether that\u2019s going to apply in this case?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225db82eba82aa4208b69e282e317e4263\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ll say to the member what I\u2019ve said to other members: I make those decisions. Giving me advice to do something tends to head me in the contrary direction. So the member might have just caused disadvantage to his own team.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228f639ca96ed14cd29826c548c304b6c4\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 6\u2014Environment\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022 data-id=\u0022cbef88d76dc64ea797358149ecb7932c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cbef88d76dc64ea797358149ecb7932c\u0022\u003EKIRITAPU ALLAN (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for the Environment: What actions is the Government taking to protect streams and wetlands?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u0022da59befcdbf84e9ba7ed1cc5b7393416\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022da59befcdbf84e9ba7ed1cc5b7393416\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Minister for the Environment):\u003C/span\u003E Last week, the Government announced our action plan for healthy waterways. It focused on three things: firstly, stopping the degradation of our rivers; secondly, delivering a noticeable improvement in water quality in five years; and, thirdly, restoring our waterways to a healthy state within a generation. We\u2019re currently consulting with the public on our proposed changes. Meetings are well attended, partly because consultation on other national policy statements (NPS)\u2014like the protection of elite soils and urban development and hazardous substances\u2014is taking place at the same meetings, as was requested by the sectors. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002265ec56c1a2304890be2e744f98d468d1\u0022\u003EKiritapu Allan\u003C/span\u003E: He aha te whakahoki k\u014Drero o te tono a Te Karauna?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E[What has been the early feedback on the Government\u2019s proposals?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002299f0b91f85f24c61a3a2296b48846917\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: There have been considerably positive comments on the Government\u2019s plan to clean up our waterways. Across agriculture and environment sectors, there is a consensus that more needs to be done, and most New Zealanders are pleased this Government is doing it. After some of the incendiary comments, early after the release of the document, some attendees are concerned that the consultation\u2014on, for example, nitrate limits\u2014be open and genuine, and I can confirm that it is.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002200c5e85d1eb74a6f8cb5aaaa936684ba\u0022\u003EKiritapu Allan\u003C/span\u003E: Ko ng\u0101 taumata whakaritea m\u014D ng\u0101 p\u016Bkawa ota heke iho, kua kotahi nei m\u014D te motu whenua nei?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E[Are the proposed levels of nitrate reduction fixed and uniform across the country?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b273bdd3893f4ebda1ea992c11aa980c\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, not necessarily. As our discussion document clearly states, we\u2019re consulting on whether the nutrient table should vary by water body\u2014for example, should there be a different nitrate level for lowland streams in Canterbury, compared with higher-country rivers and lakes?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227630b46e502c42bf9550b930b774db98\u0022\u003EKiritapu Allan\u003C/span\u003E: Ka whakahokia ng\u0101 tono a Te Karauna ki te whakatiaki ki te tikit\u016B wai m\u0101ori [Do the essential freshwater proposals return New Zealand to pristine or pure waterways] and what is the time frame to achieve nitrate pollution limits?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224785aaa5a59347988a513ea7f2ed31ef\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, these standards don\u2019t mean waterways should be pristine in the way they were before we had cities and farms. We do, though, want rivers to be swimmable, and to sustain a healthy ecosystem. In terms of time frames, in contrast to the mistaken views of some, whatever the new nitrogen targets are in the NPS, they\u2019re not to be met by 2025; in fact, that is the date by which plans to start moving towards the target must be in place. It is up to regional councils to set the pace of change to achieve that over a generation\u2014that is, over some decades after 2025.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022524c0e01dbfa4209a78e6b76e0fc6c32\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 7\u2014Environment\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022 data-id=\u00223fc38d5c91604104ad55f92fce688b78\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223fc38d5c91604104ad55f92fce688b78\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON (National\u2014Coromandel)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for the Environment: What is his response to the Initial Economic Advisory Report on the Essential Freshwater Package, which says, \u201CThe cost-effectiveness of policies targeting nutrients is likely to be questionable\u201D and that, under bottom lines for nutrients he has proposed, the area allocated to dry stock farming in the Waikato-Waip\u0101 catchment is likely to fall by 68 percent?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u002278b95cf77f9d449a827548c49d0e76ec\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002278b95cf77f9d449a827548c49d0e76ec\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Minister for the Environment):\u003C/span\u003E Firstly, the quote is taken out of context, because the statement that he refers to asserts that it\u2019s made only in respect of macroinvertebrate health, whereas the scientific advisory group recommended the nitrogen attribute because the current national policy statement (NPS) does not protect wider ecosystem health. However, I would respond, in respect of the question, that the initial report is interim, not final. It\u2019s from Local Government New Zealand, and the modelling includes costs for changes that were required to be made under the previous Government\u2019s policy but have not been put in place. It also assumes that a single NPS nitrogen attribute applies across the whole of the country and does not vary by region. It also assumes that immediate change in land-use practices is required, whereas phasing in a policy, sometimes over decades, is an important part of the design of the freshwater package, because, of course, it spreads the cost of implementation over time. Finally, I would note that in the past week, misinformation claiming that the proposed changes to farming practices and land use need to be in place by 2025 is incorrect, and this is perhaps why he has misunderstood the report.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b4e94789bb394c6e830a692a21c607f6\u0022\u003EHon Scott Simpson\u003C/span\u003E: When will his Government\u2019s economic modelling be available so that the public can judge for themselves the robustness of Local Government New Zealand\u2019s findings?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226685ca21681842318ff7af978394f127\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: There\u2019s already, as I think I said the other day in the House, some 20 pages of economic analysis in the report. There will be further economic analysis once final decisions are taken as to the nitrogen attribute. I would note that Pattrick Smellie, in a piece in today\u2019s New Zealand Herald, said that at $100 million a year, which is what he totes up the cost, these costs represent less than 1 percent of the roughly $12 billion of raw agricultural output that Statistics New Zealand measures annually.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227ca66b6f61c64242a748b3541614f78e\u0022\u003EHon Scott Simpson\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with the authors that there is little evidence of a strong correlation between nitrogen and phosphorous and microinvertebrate levels?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002222f974a1e1b14e909e1d5983af414c3b\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m sorry, Mr Speaker. Could that question be re-asked? I didn\u2019t catch it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ed3a56639ec541c1b1c38546f2fef391\u0022\u003EHon Scott Simpson\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with the authors that there is little evidence of a strong correlation between nitrogen and phosphorous and microinvertebrate levels?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c9364ddc199b4f7e916ee5c8c39b5d0a\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: That was the point that I made at the first point when I said that the quote had been taken out of context, because the scientific advisory group do not recommend a nitrate level on the basis of macroinvertebrates alone; they say it\u2019s necessary for ecosystem health more broadly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220f4911bb5f2c464189d122c663f78b42\u0022\u003EHon Scott Simpson\u003C/span\u003E: How is he going to respond to the author\u2019s strong recommendation that an evaluation be undertaken of the entire package of policies proposed at both an industry and a regional level?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E:\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022efc7078d887f45519a9f6a30a150b57e\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER \u003C/span\u003EWell, more economic analysis will be done, and, indeed, after I received that report\u2014that initial report\u2014some time ago, it\u2019s one of the reasons why we are explicit that we are consulting upon a variation of nitrogen attributes rather than automatically assuming that it\u2019s across the whole of the country, as the costing in that initial report does.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022edd1761971484187b08305b4fcc930aa\u0022\u003ETodd Muller\u003C/span\u003E: Does he think good faith consultation on his freshwater plan is occurring today in Winton, when you have 150 people sitting outside, 396 farmers having to put their apologies in because they\u2019re lambing and calving\u2014is this good faith negotiation and consultation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e9f8dca1485248d28545073bf2880d88\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: After the strong interest that was shown at meetings yesterday, where everyone was able to be accommodated, there was an awareness amongst officials that there may not be sufficient space in the hall to which the member refers. A Facebook message was put out to locals last night noting that, offering to hold two meetings, and suggesting that they spread across that other meeting date. Officials will go back to meet that need.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e798185e0fd04bd8aafab8108e4c3194\u0022\u003ETodd Muller\u003C/span\u003E: Will he extend the consultation period beyond six weeks and provide an opportunity for rural New Zealand to engage on proposals that could fundamentally change New Zealand rural life?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022439896e8dbe64bf39394b01dc33bb25b\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: The six-week consultation period is similar to the consultation period that we use for submissions to select committees, so we\u2019re not proposing to extend that date. However, we have said, as select committees normally do, that if people are a bit late with their submissions, we will still receive them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221214b6af240c4cc195667b5ec0582ce5\u0022\u003EKieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: What other areas of New Zealand primary production have to respond when environmental limits are breached?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226f0036b4d7e740ea858795d0c1cdbd06\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: It\u2019s interesting, isn\u2019t it, that in the fisheries area, where environmental sustainability limits are breached, systems have to change to bring the fishing industry within the ambit of what is sustainable. There is nothing different really being proposed in respect of this policy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002216f1eb2f7647479787fa368074e25ac5\u0022\u003EHon Nanaia Mahuta\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister believe that both urban communities and rural communities will need to contribute to make a difference to improve freshwater quality?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022104d5f8253184d14a289ef4958216b71\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, and this package is balanced, in that regard, and expects improvements from both city dwellers and rural areas. Indeed, it\u2019s sometimes quite hard for officials to get the balance right. Officials in earlier rounds of consultation were criticised by non-urban populations for not highlighting enough the challenges that are to be met in urban areas. This time, in order to meet that expressed desire of rural populations, they have explained well what has been required of urban populations, and then there has been some frustration expressed at some of those meetings that they\u2019re focusing too much on urban issues and not enough on the rural.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002278aa8d8022474152bd5ccdce63e56b8c\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 8\u2014Health\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022 data-id=\u00227805ac7a8dc042d6b7d0d0e6e856fc59\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227805ac7a8dc042d6b7d0d0e6e856fc59\u0022\u003EDr SHANE RETI (National\u2014Whangarei)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Health: Does she stand by all her statements, policies, and actions regarding vaccination and the measles outbreak?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022 data-id=\u0022031c02492b534dbfa4a5b3f096739f05\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022031c02492b534dbfa4a5b3f096739f05\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER (Associate Minister of Health):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Speaker. Yes, in the context they were given.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a495d9e3b705468f952c27e7f544c7a8\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: Can she confirm the report on the Northern Advocate front page this morning that \u201CGeneral medical practices in Northland have run out of measles vaccine, making tens of thousands of people vulnerable\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ac925ec49b764dd68541b5e3446f6c22\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. Ask a question that relates to the primary.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002263b72d2a851a4754b6e87c903c92793e\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The primary talks about the measles outbreak and vaccinations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002256b59687728744e692ba4b8663f41d40\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, yes, and just saying \u201Cmeasles\u201D\u2014the substance of the question is \u201CDoes she stand by all her statements, policies, and actions\u201D, so the member has to relate his supplementary to that. Just having the word \u201Cmeasles\u201D in it isn\u2019t good enough.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b9cd3379de784698ab30fc3e66092839\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: Can she confirm the report on the Northern Advocate front page this morning that \u201CGeneral medical practices in Northland have run out of measles vaccine, making tens of thousands of people vulnerable\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022039fc58dfb5940d1b8d08f0115eea531\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. None of those relate to a statement or action of the Minister, or a policy of the Minister. It\u2019s not hard to get the question right. The member is intellectually capable of doing it; I just want him to have another crack.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cf394d7dff5c4071b9b38eac013a56ff\u0022\u003EHon Gerry Brownlee\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. If we are going to get into the semantics of it, the question asks, very clearly, \u201CDoes she stand by all her statements, policies, and actions regarding vaccination and the measles outbreak?\u201D We\u2019ve heard twice this week in the House from health Ministers that there\u2019s no problem with vaccinations, so when you have a headline in a local newspaper that completely disputes that, how can it be out of order, in line with this question, to ask if the statement is still being agreed with?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a27cc96b2ad540cfb50beab19b07012d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I just want to say to the member: if Ministers had said that, which I don\u2019t accept, then I\u2019m sure that Dr Reti would be capable of relating that statement in his question or a supplementary. He hasn\u2019t.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002221a14f1d323845d4a1045711a1ca216f\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: How do her policies align with the report on the Northern Advocate front page this morning that \u201CGeneral medical practices in Northland have run out of measles vaccine, making tens of thousands of people vulnerable\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226a82b6d7158344a78556f59950bd8545\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s not quite there, but close enough.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e104724b4b564c208deb20be3fb37799\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ve been advised today that the regional store was able to fill all measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR) orders that had been placed by GPs in Northland, and that stock of MMR is still available in the regional store. I have been assured by the Director-General of Health that there\u2019s no supply issue when it comes to vaccines for managing the outbreak in Auckland as well as ensuring that we can maintain the childhood immunisation schedule across the country. What happened on Monday was that there was a stocktake undertaken because there\u2019s been unprecedented demand for, and administration of, vaccines in the past two weeks, and what that revealed is that, while there\u2019s no supply issue, there was a distribution issue, and so the Ministry of Health, alongside local medical officers of health, local primary health organisations, and the DHB, are actively ensuring that there is sufficient vaccine everywhere where there needs to be in Northland.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221c96877885ee4f57b6f1dcde0319c04c\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: What advice has she received on the dire measles vaccine supply expressed in communications from Waikato DHB to health professionals yesterday?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f2b243b9f68c451ea8efb94eae2e9c3c\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER\u003C/span\u003E: Exactly as I just said, the Director-General of Health has assured me there\u2019s no issue with supply, but the stocktake revealed that it was not evenly distributed, and so there is active work going on right now to ensure that all of the vaccines are available where they need to be administered, and in particular that we\u2019re ensuring that all children, who are the most vulnerable to measles, are able to receive all of their vaccines. In the last two weeks, thousands of vaccines have been administered each day, which is significantly more than average, and so that would probably explain why some GPs were low on stock. But all of the orders have been filled in Northland, and I don\u2019t have the specifics on Waikato, but I can get them for him. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002228703c27a5184ed89973aca0d1ab1dfa\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: What does she say to 1.3 million New Zealanders aged between 30 and 50 who are no longer being targeted to receive the measles vaccine, and when did this recommendation change?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224028ed80101a4c088075146c674596cd\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER\u003C/span\u003E: Yesterday, the Director-General of Health announced, to give clarity to primary health organisations, that it was very important that we ensure that we maintain the childhood immunisation schedule, and that the most at-risk people are children; they are the most vulnerable to the disease, the most likely to be hospitalised. Although there\u2019s no shortage of vaccines, it does require staff and others, and so, necessarily, because we can\u2019t administer vaccines to everyone in the country within a period of just a few short weeks, we are ensuring that no child is missing their vaccine and that all those who are most vulnerable are going to get their vaccine. But I assure the member there is no shortage of vaccines. We simply want to make sure that the most vulnerable people are not missing out, given that there has been unprecedented demand for vaccines in the past two weeks.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b922b5da7ea24faf8aff96e2e065d76a\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: Can she confirm the Government will announce that pharmacists will be able to vaccinate for measles, as we called on the Government to urgently do back on 2 September?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226b84ac57604c42a9a519985f353a23a6\u0022\u003EHon Julie Anne Genter\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry, Mr Speaker, could I ask that the member repeat the beginning of the question. I just missed the beginning.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002209e8e234559e49d28d1e98efd0d9903c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, and the member only needs to do the first part of it, because the other part was superfluous. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022861a1798-a396-4a6c-b9e2-7d2f15d4a001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002267a038f8e3f64691823306be53043119\u0022\u003EDr Shane Reti\u003C/span\u003E: Can she confirm that the Government will announce that pharmacists will be able to vaccinate for measles?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002289e0c1dd56b84a5dbbd5d4ee3adb64a6\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: \u201CCan the Minister\u201D, in this case. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258f935f1-6646-40ab-9d99-17029396850c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b8fb17648652421a969e6eac64596e16\u0022\u003EHon JULIE ANNE GENTER\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Mr Speaker. I can confirm that the Government is actively and urgently exploring the opportunity for pharmacists to provide the MMR vaccine, but, unfortunately, contrary to the member\u2019s assertion, allowing pharmacists to vaccinate for MMR is not a 30-second policy. Funding, reimbursement, classification, and record-keeping all need to be considered, and we want this policy to be implemented safely.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224bff90b3c2e14ffa86a299389be32d1f\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 9\u2014M\u0101ori Development\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022 data-id=\u00229cafd32f539d4a90a6c2d4f5851deebf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229cafd32f539d4a90a6c2d4f5851deebf\u0022\u003ETAMATI COFFEY (Labour\u2014Waiariki)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for M\u0101ori Development: He p\u0113hea te tautoko a te k\u0101wangatanga i te whakarauoratanga o te reo M\u0101ori?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E[How is the Government supporting the revitalisation of te reo M\u0101ori?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022 data-id=\u0022bd3bbd581db149498665244972106f94\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bd3bbd581db149498665244972106f94\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Minister for M\u0101ori Development):\u003C/span\u003E E tautoko ana te K\u0101wanatanga me te r\u0101ngai t\u016Bmatanui i ng\u0101 rautaki reo M\u0101ori ki te whakakaha i ng\u0101 p\u016Bkenga i te reo kia waia an\u014D Te Reo M\u0101ori. E m\u014Dhio ana e haere ng\u0101tahi ana Te Reo me ng\u0101 h\u012Btori hei hanga t\u016B\u0101papa o te tuakiri ki t\u014D m\u0101tou ahurea me ng\u0101 taonga tuku iho.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[The Government and public sector are supporting M\u0101ori language strategies by improving language skills so that the M\u0101ori language is again familiar. We know that the language and history go together in the creation of the foundation of identity in our culture and heritage.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e474e3507f774dcea0b1148fa25a6de7\u0022\u003ETamati Coffey\u003C/span\u003E: He aha ng\u0101 p\u0101nui inaia tata ake nei hei tautoko i ng\u0101 whakarauoratanga o Te Reo?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E[What recent announcements have there been to support the revitalisation of the language?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f9f33624af36441eb633da0e3a1451ab\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA\u003C/span\u003E: He \u0101hua roa t\u0113nei whakautu. Heoi hei t\u0101piri atu i ng\u0101 kaupapa k\u014Drero i whakatakotoria i Te Whare nei i te R\u0101t\u016B, e whakapakari ana m\u0101tou i te tautoko m\u014D ng\u0101 kaiako m\u0101 \u0113nei kaupapa e whai ake. E 700 ng\u0101 kaiako kei ng\u0101 rohe e wh\u0101 e ako ana me p\u0113whea te whakauru i Te Reo M\u0101ori ki roto i ng\u0101 karaehe. He kete rauemi m\u0101 ng\u0101 kaiako me ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau hei \u0101whina i a r\u0101tou ki te whakamahi i Te Reo M\u0101ori ki ng\u0101 kura, ki te k\u0101inga hoki. He whakakore i te kaikiritanga i ng\u0101 kura. Ka whakarewaina te h\u014Dtaka tuatahi ki Te Tai Tokerau hei te tau 2020. Ka waihangatia e te M\u0101ori, he h\u014Dtaka t\u0113nei m\u014D te whakat\u014D me te whakaako i te m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori. He paetukutuku hou kei reira katoa ng\u0101 rauemi reo M\u0101ori m\u014D ng\u0101 kaiako\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[This is a long answer. Anyway, to add to the topics of discussion that were laid before this House on Tuesday, we are improving the support for teachers via the following initiatives: 700 teachers in four regions are learning how to introduce the M\u0101ori language to the classroom; a set of resources for teachers and families to help them use the M\u0101ori language in schools and in the home; getting rid of bullying in schools. The first programme will be launched in Northland in 2020. Created by M\u0101ori, this is a programme for the introduction and teaching of M\u0101ori knowledge. A new website where M\u0101ori language resources for teachers can be found\u2014]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002275cd48d992b44533aa4f15c9a58e8663\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: K\u0101ti, k\u0101ti, k\u0101ti!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ed0ac44c1d874d4bb6a746c7d7a9a2af\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA\u003C/span\u003E: He maha, he maha ng\u0101 kaupapa e kawea nei e m\u0101tou, te K\u0101wanatanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[There are many, many initiatives that we, the Government, are carrying out.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c1311bc20f14ed1a5c74ff7fdcd53df\u0022\u003EGinny Andersen\u003C/span\u003E: M\u014D ng\u0101 M\u0101ori anake t\u0113nei rautaki?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003E[Is this strategy for M\u0101ori only?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002288b5a86fd16b465b9884a57ca02e9428\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA\u003C/span\u003E: E kao. He rautaki t\u0113nei m\u014D ng\u0101 iwi katoa. Ko te wh\u0101inga matua o Te Maihi Karauna, kia m\u0101horahora Te Reo ki ng\u0101 w\u0101hi katoa, i ng\u0101 mahi katoa, m\u014D ng\u0101 iwi katoa o ia r\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[No. This is a strategy for all peoples. The main goal of Te Maihi Karauna is for the language to be ubiquitous everywhere, in all endeavours, and for all people, daily.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f2f31abbddf142a1b076b7c3b69561c1\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 10\u2014Energy and Resources\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022 data-id=\u00223199df9c828049c4b823e16cca8fc600\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223199df9c828049c4b823e16cca8fc600\u0022\u003EJONATHAN YOUNG (National\u2014New Plymouth)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Energy and Resources: Does she stand by all of her statements, policies, and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u0022cfd0d595858e4ba68c76bbe0933fe476\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cfd0d595858e4ba68c76bbe0933fe476\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Minister for the Environment)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources: Yes, in the context they were made and undertaken.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228ecb9df940f14736b11ca9da10f27386\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: Does she accept the findings of the interim Climate Change Commission that her Government\u2019s policy of forcing the market into producing 100 percent renewable electricity will push up power prices for New Zealand families by an average of $300 a year?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221cad524f2a3f40168f23b85256524844\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m confident that the transition that New Zealand is on to decarbonising electricity and other parts of our fossil fuel system will result in lower energy costs to New Zealanders than would otherwise be the case.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c57b2e43dc4c4d86adacd90671ece774\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I just asked whether she would accept the findings of the interim Climate Change Commission.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224043cc040eca457bbc150e78626b7854\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I think if the member listened really carefully to the end of the answer, he got a very direct answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227ea7bb9a6325420485917f1d4ae76885\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: When the Minister said yesterday she does not think elevated wholesale power prices will flow through to higher household prices, however with wholesale prices 60 percent higher through all of this year compared to the same period of last year, are we seeing a structural change in the market that could build in these higher prices?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022938484d1f2f6416db2b072fa6ce98555\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: We did see a spike in wholesale gas and electricity prices over the last year, caused by problems in gas infrastructure\u2014pity we didn\u2019t have a few more renewables at the time. I would note that the latest data shows that electricity prices at retail are now 1.6 percent higher than they were last year, which is lower than the rate of inflation, and that as a consequence, the Electricity Retailers\u2019 Association have put out a release today\u2014I suspect after the member submitted his question\u2014saying household power bills have hit a 10-year low.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bf310c03be9745c7b159e1e793ceb660\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The member referred to a spike, whereas the question alluded to a 60 percent increase average over the country for the last 8\u00BD months, which is not a spike.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022962f46b52af24e4397ae89572b3b90ce\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it depends on one\u2019s definition of \u201Cspike\u201D. It\u2019s one hell of a spike, but it could be described as a peak.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022696720a79a60445ea038afa0ac1b0e59\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. The question was, in that context, whether we are seeing a structural change, and I don\u2019t think he addressed the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022112100117a9145c6b500ac7b2e0fd700\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: If the member listened to the end of the reply\u2014unless he\u2019s suggesting that the lowest prices for 10 years is a structural change, which I\u2019m not sure that he was, I think the question was certainly not only addressed but answered.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002263edc8c7318347b3a1045cc0ec84692a\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: So when she said yesterday that renewable electricity is the cheapest form of generation that will bring down electricity prices, when does she expect the price per unit to fall, knowing that today\u2019s announcement was not about the price per unit but New Zealanders using less electricity?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ad46fdb5be4746b2afd579bff13d4f31\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, the cheapest-cost new increments to supply in New Zealand are wind power and geothermal power. Wind power in particular has decreased in cost over recent years and continues to go down. Gas prices go up.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c70031d30b2742dbabd734d84e537556\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Minister aware of news reports that have come out from Georgetown, which moved to 100 percent renewable electricity in 2012, which increased the cost of electricity by $1,000 per household, and what will she do to ensure that doesn\u2019t occur here?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e86bb2a16b0d4d77b4f9d874505b9f0a\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, I\u2019m aware from talking to the former Minister of Energy in the last Labour Government, David Parker, that at the time when the changes were made towards renewable electricity, there was a prediction made by the then Opposition that this would increase electricity prices. We have seen since that that has not been the case, and, as I said, despite the increasing proportion of New Zealand\u2019s electricity that comes from, electricity prices in the last period are the lowest that they\u2019ve been for a long time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc9c47c0-4409-44ca-ad2f-498707f27d69\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227885e53606034beaa553b747570412ff\u0022\u003EJonathan Young\u003C/span\u003E: So, if the Minister, who has said in the past that she won\u2019t die in the ditch over that 100 percent renewable electricity target\u2014would she rather we use gas, which has decreased in its use this last year, or use coal, which has increased by 134 percent, to back up and support a largely renewable electricity system?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225e0f9af00c584ea981280615107e9b95\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: Neither. I\u2019d rather see renewables used. I would also note that the problems that the member is referring to were actually problems in gas distribution; they weren\u2019t a shortage of gas. I\u2019m advised that we have more than a decade of forward gas available to the New Zealand electricity market, and that\u2019s what the average has been for quite a long time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e6e6176deaf84eecbbd99c5c751bf858\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 11\u2014Research, Science and Innovation\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022 data-id=\u0022b3d252f6d5ce40b08d2060788a6f5c43\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b3d252f6d5ce40b08d2060788a6f5c43\u0022\u003EDr PARMJEET PARMAR (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Research, Science and Innovation: Does she stand by all of her statements, policies, and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022513b2504a76c43239a27d6c5a1657b07\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022513b2504a76c43239a27d6c5a1657b07\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Education) \u003C/span\u003Eon behalf of the Minister of Research, Science and Innovation: Yes. I particularly stand by our decision to make the largest ever investment in research and development through the $1 billion R \u0026amp; D tax incentive in Budget 2018 and the additional $132 million investment in science in Budget 2019. I\u2019m also happy to remind the member that we\u2019ve recently seen R \u0026amp; D spend increase from 1.23 percent to 1.37 percent of GDP.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222ecc6009ec1644e68d71ed980a397716\u0022\u003EDr Parmjeet Parmar\u003C/span\u003E: Is she aware that her own officials advised her that the Government\u2019s policies in Budget 2019 do not reflect the funding needed to increase R \u0026amp; D expenditure to 2 percent of GDP?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022829df139e9994a56b53eb1659e565d1b\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, I\u2019ve received a range of advice on what it\u2019s going to take to reach the target of 2 percent of GDP in the 10-year period that the Government has set. We, of course, do expect that the private sector is going to play a very large role in getting us to that point, and we are going to partner with them to achieve that. On this side of the House, we believe in an active role for the private sector around R \u0026amp; D. Although, of course, I know that with the new-found enthusiasm for communism on the other side of the House they might be rethinking that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002269fe54ee6f9e42a399f5d48083113ee2\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, no, no. That line has been consistently ruled out by Speakers, and even in a humorous way. I\u2019m going to be consistent with Speakers from the past and say that that is not an approach that is going to be taken by either side of the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022521dde48948c46d0a50d4e89b507ced1\u0022\u003EHon Gerry Brownlee\u003C/span\u003E: Should he withdraw?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a415cc636a36401aba0e8ca8ab02e384\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, he should.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262e95c2b42fb4474b541076aae576616\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: I withdraw. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227ef3853a7b70476b80d6f50cd9df6ae6\u0022\u003EDr Parmjeet Parmar\u003C/span\u003E: Does she think it\u2019s realistic to meet the Government\u2019s own target, when, according to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment, to reach the target, business expenditure on R \u0026amp; D needs to increase by 10 percent per annum and Government expenditure on R \u0026amp; D needs to increase by at least $150 million per annum, which she has failed to deliver?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223bc11612d63e490ab573d30d899a6b03\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: In answer to the first part of the question, yes. In answer to the second part of the question, I do refer the member to my earlier answer where I said that the private sector is going to have to play a significant role here. I\u2019m pleased to tell the member that we need a private sector increase of at least 10 percent\u2014as the member has pointed out\u2014and that, in fact, between 2016 and 2018 it was 34 percent. So we\u2019re seeing larger increases than we need to in order to meet the target.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a26649dbb80b40e2a640ba5683d596f8\u0022\u003EDr Parmjeet Parmar\u003C/span\u003E: Does she really think it\u2019s realistic to expect business expenditure on R \u0026amp; D to increase by 10 percent per annum when business confidence is at its lowest level since the global financial crisis?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bfa9ff9e1cf14ded9d29b449417a66b9\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: I think, as the Minister of Finance has explained on many occasions before, we\u2019re more interested in what business are doing than what they\u2019re saying about how they feel, because those two things don\u2019t always correlate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022825a0c620af742d29cdb9207cbe9ff79\u0022\u003EDr Parmjeet Parmar\u003C/span\u003E: If, as her own officials advise, her Government appears unable to meet its own R \u0026amp; D target, will she do what she did with KiwiBuild and just get rid of the target?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221419829d377644aa9934740c03a180f3\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m confident that the Government is going to meet the target.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224c18bd35397b4ddeba52fdb0a488a6e8\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 12\u2014Building and Construction\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022 data-id=\u0022ca8db39a14cf42fb8708266ae00cb3f2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ca8db39a14cf42fb8708266ae00cb3f2\u0022\u003EPAUL EAGLE (Labour\u2014Rongotai)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Building and Construction: What recent reports has the Minister seen on forecast construction activity?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00220ae70b1eec8b401b9cc1978cef67e1b2\u0022\u003E\u2018Akilisi P\u014Dhiva\u2014to his family and to all Tongans worldwide. Last week, I released the that forecasts strong and sustainable construction activity for at least the next five years. The report shows the value that construction activity is expected to hit: $43.5 billion at its peak. This represents significant activity across residential, non-residential, and infrastructure construction sectors. Given the construction sector represents our fourth-largest employer and our fifth-largest industry by GDP, this is further proof that our Government policies and work in the construction sector are indeed hitting the nail on the head.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022 data-id=\u0022638c80bfe39644bdbee58f79966bbe85\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022638c80bfe39644bdbee58f79966bbe85\u0022\u003EHon JENNY SALESA (Minister for Building and Construction):\u003C/span\u003E May I first of all, as a Tongan, express my sincerest condolences in the passing of the Rt Hon National Construction Pipeline Report 2019 \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022430776bb89834e36962e58b6097c6b06\u0022\u003EPaul Eagle\u003C/span\u003E: How does forecasting construction activity help the construction industry?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ee33b98239954edc91b3bba1edd3a1fa\u0022\u003EHon JENNY SALESA\u003C/span\u003E: One of the key concerns I hear frequently from industry through the Construction Sector Accord is about managing the boom-bust cycles that negatively impact productivity, innovation, and employment in the construction sector. The positive forecast highlighted in the National Construction Pipeline Report 2019 provides certainty to the construction industry and means that Government and industry can work together to support better planning, better scheduling of investment, and better coordination of construction procurement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002228da0e25f83a4fd29b298f69833e7cf6\u0022\u003EPaul Eagle\u003C/span\u003E: How does this forecast construction activity align with other measures?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dd3f4828dbc04eccaba8a8a5b7656816\u0022\u003EHon JENNY SALESA\u003C/span\u003E: This report is just one indication that the construction sector is performing to support jobs and deliver houses, schools, and hospitals that are essential to all of our wellbeing. Last month, Statistics New Zealand reported that there were almost 36,000 houses consented for the year to the end of July, including 14,000 in Auckland and 4,000 in the Waikato. This rate has not been seen since February of 1974 and further demonstrates the strength of the construction sector.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002286ffaf63294a4cc3ba562195d4b62d6f\u0022\u003EPoints of Order\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022011ceb458f114e75a54b3f4ae50baccc\u0022\u003ETe Reo M\u0101ori\u2014English Translation\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u002225d68148d61e456d9a8d3e31429fd288\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002225d68148d61e456d9a8d3e31429fd288\u0022\u003EHon GERRY BROWNLEE (National\u2014Ilam):\u003C/span\u003E I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Earlier this afternoon, in the questioning of the Prime Minister, you gave the House your interpretation of an interpreted Hansard from the Hon Kelvin Davis yesterday. While I would accept that the word \u201Ck\u014Dhimuhimu\u201D might have different meanings in context, it can\u2019t have a different meaning in text. It\u2019s very clear, from both the transcription of Mr Kelvin Davis\u2019 speech and then the transcript of the translation, that there are two statements that are relevant. You said there was one and that it related entirely to our party, but the factual script in Te Reo and the translation are similar and make it clear that he did mean that the Hon Paula Bennett was criticising the actions, the work, and other things that they have done all based on rumour. And I think that\u2019s unreasonable\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u00222172b370767743a7b74832272b46f874\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222172b370767743a7b74832272b46f874\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The member will resume his seat. I have since reviewed further down the transcript and I accept that I was wrong in my comments to the House as to the transcription. I had looked at the earlier comments, which were related directly to Paula Bennett, and not to the later parts, and I apologise to the House for that. I have since reviewed it, and I was going to make the point now, but the member beat me to it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00220558406dd6fc435485d854a5c4d80a4f\u0022\u003ETe Pire kia Unuhia te Hara kai Runga i a Rua K\u0113nana / Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f1fb5ffd2d7e4f909c52d32aa7b4ec27\u0022\u003EFirst Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022 data-id=\u0022d6cb7803be9443a59a93739a24af2d98\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d6cb7803be9443a59a93739a24af2d98\u0022\u003EHon NANAIA MAHUTA (Minister for M\u0101ori Development):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That Te Pire kia Unuhia te Hara kai Runga i a Rua K\u0113nana / Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill be now read a first time. I nominate the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee to consider the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EE ai ki te k\u014Drero a te koroua, \u201CKotahi te ture m\u014D ng\u0101 iwi e rua\u201D. Kua mana ana kupu i t\u0113nei r\u0101. E te mana nui, e te tohunga, e te rangatira, Rua K\u0113nana Hepetipa, moe mai r\u0101, e moe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti, huri noa i t\u014D t\u0101tou Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Tuatahi, ki ng\u0101 uri o Rua, ng\u0101 kaiwhakapono o Te Iharaira, tae rawa ake ki ng\u0101 uri o Tama Kaimoana, o Maungap\u014Dhatu. Koutou kua puta i ng\u0101 wh\u0101rua o Te Urewera, n\u0101 koutou i p\u012Bkau i t\u0113nei kaupapa i roto i ng\u0101 tau me \u0101na piki, me \u0101na heke hoki. Ahakoa \u0113r\u0101, kei k\u014Dnei t\u0101tou i t\u0113nei r\u0101 m\u014D te p\u0101nui tuatahi a t\u0113nei pire. N\u0101 koutou, n\u0101 t\u014D koutou m\u0101ia, kaha hoki, kua tae t\u0101tou ki t\u0113nei r\u0101. N\u014D reira, kei ng\u0101 uri o Rua K\u0113nana, t\u0113nei te mokopuna o Piupiu Te Wherowhero e mihi kau atu nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EKa tangi ki ng\u0101 tini aitu\u0101 i roto i te w\u0101. T\u0113nei m\u0101tou e tangi tonu nei i t\u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 taniwha hiku roa, a Pita Paraone. Otir\u0101, kei ng\u0101 mate o t\u0113n\u0101 marae, o t\u0113n\u0101 hap\u016B, o t\u0113n\u0101 iwi puta noa i te motu, haere, haere, hoki atu r\u0101. R\u0101tou ki a r\u0101tou, ko t\u0101tou ng\u0101 kanohi ora o te tau nei, ng\u0101 mahuetanga iho o r\u0101tou m\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koutou, t\u0101tou, katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[The male elder once said, \u201COne rule for two peoples\u201D. His words are true on this day. The authority, the spiritual intermediary, the leader of people, Rua K\u0113nana Hepetipa, rest in peace.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ETurning to those in the House, greetings. Firstly, to the descendants of Rua, the believers of Iharaira, to the descendants of Tama Kaimona, of Maungap\u014Dhatu. To those of you who have come from the valley of the Ureweras, it was you who have carried this cause forward through its ups and downs. Regardless, we are here today for the first reading of this bill. It was because of you, because of your courage, your strength, we are here today. Therefore, to the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana, I, the descendent of Piupiu Te Wherowhero, acknowledge you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EWe mourn the many who have passed. We continue to mourn the passing of that man of great influence, Pita Paraone. To those who have passed of the marae, the hap\u016B, and the iwi throughout the country, rest in peace. The spirit realm to the spirit realm, and to us who have been left behind in the realm of the living, thank you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EIn August 1916, Rua K\u0113nana\u2014T\u016Bhoe rangatira, community leader, and leader of the Iharaira faith\u2014was convicted of moral resistance to a police attempt to arrest him earlier that year. The arrest had its origins in an earlier conviction for the illicit sale of liquor; however, Rua believed he had already been punished for those crimes. Rua had, in fact, served time in prison in 1915 on such charges dating back to 1911, before he had returned to Maungap\u014Dhatu in 1915.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EIn January 1916, Rua was summoned to appear before a magistrate in relation to a batch of 1915 charges also relating to the sale of alcohol without a licence. Rua advised police that he was busy with harvesting and requested that his case be adjourned until the next court session. The magistrate treated this as a contempt of court and imposed a prison sentence in Rua\u2019s absence.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EA first attempt to arrest Rua was made in February 1916. Rua told the constables that he would not accompany them and that he had already served a prison sentence. The constables were not prepared to use force and did not compel him to come with them; however, this led to further charges against Rua for resisting arrest and using seditious language. In the midst of the First World War, the authorities undoubtedly saw the autonomy claimed by the community led by Rua at Maungap\u014Dhatu as subversive.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EFor the next attempt at arrest, in April 1916, 70 armed police set out. During the arrest there was an exchange of gunfire in which Rua\u2019s son Toko Rua and another young man, Te Maipi, were killed. Three other Maungap\u014Dhatu residents and four police officers were wounded. Thirty-one Maungap\u014Dhatu men were arrested and held up for three days. This incident has been described by some historians as the last shooting of the New Zealand Wars. It is an incident that has dwelt long in T\u016Bhoe memories and has continued to cast its shadow over more recent events in our history. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ERua\u2019s 47-day trial was the longest in our history until 1977. He was acquitted on the charge of using seditious language. Four other charges were thrown out by the judge, and the jury was unable to reach a verdict on two others. The police attempted to arrest Rua due to the reactivation of his suspended sentence imposed in May 1915. It\u2019s unclear why this sentence was reactivated, as Rua was not charged with any new offence between the imposition of the suspended sentence in May 1915 and its later reactivation. Rua spent 18 months in prison because of his conviction for morally resisting arrest in February 1916. The severity of his sentence was the subject of protest in a letter to the Auckland Star by eight members of the jury which convicted Rua. The Iharaira faith went into a serious, long decline after the events arising from Rua\u2019s arrest. In regard to the Maungap\u014Dhatu invasion, the Crown\u2019s treatment of Rua was unreasonable.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThis legislation will give effect to the 9 September 2017 agreement to provide a statutory pardon for Rua K\u0113nana between the Crown and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira me Ng\u0101 Uri o Maungap\u014Dhatu Charitable Trust to provide a statutory pardon for Rua K\u0113nana. The evidence relating to this instance has been thoroughly researched through the Waitangi Tribunal\u2019s Te Urewera inquiry. The Waitangi Tribunal report concluded that the police used excessive force in arresting Rua at Maungap\u014Dhatu. It is not clear that there was good reason to reactivate the suspended sentence for liquor charges, which were used in large part to justify the arrest. Rua has borne a lasting stigma because of the Crown\u2019s treatment of him. The final form of this stigma was a guilty verdict for moral resistance.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThere are precedents in this House for pardoning individuals from our history. An example is the Mokomoko (Restoration of Character, Mana, and Reputation) Act 2013. There are also criteria for assessing whether a statutory pardon is an appropriate vehicle to achieve reconciliation. These were developed during the consideration of a pardon for Kereopa Te Rau, as part of the Ng\u0101ti Rangiwewehi settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ELet me test the circumstances, briefly, against those criteria. First, the person for whom the pardon is sought has been convicted of offence. This is obviously the case for Rua K\u0113nana. The second criterion is that the wh\u0101nau wish the pardon to be granted, and understand its nature and effect. This criterion also clearly applies here. The trusts have been clear that they wish to pursue a statutory pardon. Third, the pardon will achieve the intended effect of promoting reconciliation. The trust considers this is necessary to restore the character, mana, and reputation of Rua, and promote reconciliation with the Crown. We have much work to do there. Fourth, no other response from the Crown will sufficiently meet wh\u0101nau concerns. Let me be clear that there are no other options available to meet the concerns expressed by the trust, except through this bill. Fifth, it is appropriate for Parliament to formally express forgiveness, via legislation, for the conduct that resulted in the convictions. The Crown has acknowledged, in the T\u016Bhoe settlement, the manner in which it acted towards Rua and the Maungap\u014Dhatu community, causing them serious prejudice, and was a breach of the Treaty of Waitangi and its principles.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThe uri of Rua K\u0113nana and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki o Iharaira are still affected by the stigma that has resulted from the conviction of their tupuna and the resulting hardships for the community caused by that conviction. We cannot begin to understand what that feels like. In terms of the Crown acknowledgment, this bill is required in order to provide an appropriate Crown response to these matters. It seeks to affirm and restore the character, mana, and reputation of Rua and his descendants. It is important that the Crown acknowledges that its actions, which I have already talked about, caused lasting damage to his character, mana, and reputation, and carried by his descendants. It acknowledges that Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira, including the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana, have suffered ongoing hurt, shame, stigma as a result of the Maungap\u014Dhatu invasion. The Crown will, through this legislation, apologise to the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira for the lasting damage to the character, the mana, the reputation of Rua K\u0113nana and his uri. It will also apologise for the deep hurt, shame, and stigma caused as a result of the invasion of Maungap\u014Dhatu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThe bill concludes with the pardon for the conviction for the moral resistance to arrest. It declares the restoration of the character, mana, and reputation of Rua K\u0113nana, his uri, and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira. This bill is outside the Treaty settlement process. It will have no impact on existing Treaty settlements and involves no financial or cultural redress. However, I consider that the bill will go a long way to restoring the reputation and mana of the Crown. We heard, earlier this morning, from Dr Taiarahia Black, that this is a millennial moment. The first reading of Te Pire kia Unuhia te Hara kai Runga i a Rua K\u0113nana / Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill, in my mind, affirms the teachings of our prophets.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003ETe koroua Rua K\u0113nana, Te Whiti o Rongomai, Tohu K\u0101kahi, \u0100perehama Taonui, T\u0101whiao, me rekereke r\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[The elder Rua K\u0113nana, Te Whiti o Rongomai, Tohu K\u0101kahi, Aperehama Taonui, T\u0101whiao, they must all be pardoned.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EThis is the millennial moment recognised so that we can be alert to the teachings of those tohunga, our t\u016Bpuna, to navigate our way ahead.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, t\u0113nei te whakaaro ake ki a koutou katoa. Te Ururoa, i kite i a koutou i waenganui i a t\u0101tou. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220e7e8da2-a6a1-41bb-aeb0-a49be255a293\u0022\u003E[Therefore, I am thinking of all of you. Te Ururoa, I saw you amongst us. Thank you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022 data-id=\u00223681d1ad773b4fdab6e9e0e45ebd7372\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223681d1ad773b4fdab6e9e0e45ebd7372\u0022\u003EJO HAYES (National):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe koro m\u0101, e kui m\u0101, rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E te wh\u0101nau o te poropiti o Rua K\u0113nana, kei te mihi mahana ki a koutou. Nau mai, haere mai i t\u0113nei Whare i te r\u0101 whakahirahira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003E[Greetings, elders and distinguished guests, greetings. To the family of the prophet Rua K\u0113nana, warm greetings to you all. Welcome, welcome to this House on this important day.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EI stand humbled again to speak on such an emotional bill, Te Pire kia Unuhia te Hara kai Runga i a Rua K\u0113nana / Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill, on the first reading. This morning, I was privileged to be part of the r\u014Dp\u016B p\u0101remata for the plaque, as we see under the doorway, and I too, as the Minister Nanaia Mahuta has laid out, was privileged to listen to a number of speeches today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EBut the one that I do want to make mention of is the one of a previous lecturer of mine, and an uri of T\u016Bhoe, Professor Taiarahia Black. His speech around the waiata of Rua K\u0113nana, when Rua K\u0113nana was imprisoned, brought a lot of\u2014it was almost like it was real for me. I could see it all happening in my mind\u2019s eye. Those words around \u201CK\u0101ore te whakam\u0101 i ahau ki te taura whiu kau\u201D [\u201CThe void of shame to use a cow lasso\u201D] when Rua K\u0113nana\u2014when the colonial Crown went in and arrested him, wrapping around a cowhide lasso to bring him down, \u201CI kitea e au he karauna k\u012Bngi\u201D [\u201CPervading my sight is the symbol of the King\u201D], where he could see the badge of the King coming through, \u201CKa \u016B ki Maungap\u014Dhatu\u201D [\u201CAscending Maunga P\u014Dhatu\u201D].\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EAs Professor Black went on to say so eloquently\u2014I could never do it as eloquently as him, where he talked about the time when Rua K\u0113nana\u2019s hands were locked in handcuffs: \u201CMekameka i aku ringa ka pai e te iwi ka rite ng\u0101 karaipiture\u201D [\u201CMy hands are chained. It does not matter, my people, for the scriptures have spoken\u201D], where he was saying, \u201CEven though my hands have been handcuffed\u201D, he will take the role, and the people will take the role of the scriptures. This was a man who did nothing. He did absolutely nothing wrong, and yet he had to pay a price, a price that the wh\u0101nau of Rua K\u0113nana sit in this House today\u2014as they listen to us speak about and apologise on behalf of the history of this country for the wrong that was beset upon this man, upon this poropiti.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EThey\u2019re only the first four lines of this waiata. It goes on into the treatment of the people of his wh\u0101nau and of his wahine from the Crown invaders\u2014the disgusting things that these people had to endure during their time while their leader was sitting in Mt Eden Prison. For many times, I stand in this House on a number of M\u0101ori bills, and it does\u2014I listened to Minister Nanaia Mahuta, with the tears coming down her face. I know the pain, I can feel the pain, that many of the wh\u0101nau that have sat in that gallery\u2014I have felt your pain. If this is just one little thing that I can help to address and soothe that pain, then I am humbled to be able to do that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003ESo we are here today, over a hundred years later, with this acknowledgment and with this apology for the horrific history that started so long ago and carried on, right through. National worked with the M\u0101ori Party, with the Hon Te Ururoa Flavell\u2014I acknowledge you, Te Ururoa\u2014in starting this whole process, and this Government, the Labour-led coalition Government, has carried this bill through to today, and I am humbled. I am humbled again. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022758dcaf3-9976-43ac-8593-79f66ee4da22\u0022\u003EAs I said, it\u2019s a very emotional time as I stand here, but I just want to say that my day today started in a humble way, at 5.30 a.m., with a solemn and respectful start, and today\u2014right now\u2014my day, at this point in the Parliament, ends with an honouring of a tupuna of Maungap\u014Dhatu. There is so much that Minister Nanaia Mahuta relayed in this House around atrocities and the treatment of the poropiti Rua K\u0113nana. On this side of the House, we cry with you and we mourn with you. Therefore, without any further ado, I commend this bill to the House. T\u0113n\u0101 koe. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022 data-id=\u002289aed3af70da4148a2e9f3e365e76bef\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002289aed3af70da4148a2e9f3e365e76bef\u0022\u003ERINO TIRIKATENE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Tonga):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare. E t\u016B ana ki te tautoko i t\u0113nei pire. Ki a koutou ng\u0101 uri o Rua K\u0113nana, ng\u0101 uri o Maungap\u014Dhatu, Te H\u0101hi Iharaira, nau mai, nau mai, whakatau mai ki Te Whare P\u0101remata i takat\u016B nei. He tino h\u014Dnore t\u0113nei ki te t\u016B ki te tautoko i t\u0113nei, t\u014D koutou pire.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[Greetings, Mr Speaker. I stand to support this bill. To you, the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana, the descendants of Maungap\u014Dhatu, the Church of Iharaira, welcome, welcome, welcome to Parliament. It is a great honour to stand to support this, your bill.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI am delighted, and it is a privilege, to stand and speak in the first reading of this bill, Te Pire kia Unuhia te Hara kai Runga i a Rua K\u0113nana / the Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill. I want to acknowledge all the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana who have travelled from far and wide to be here on this occasion. I want to acknowledge all of the wh\u0101nau, wherever they may be, who might be tuning in for this historic occasion. It\u2019s sort of hard\u2014there are a lot of emotions that are going on at the moment, and I just want to acknowledge our guests. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s been a really significant week, and a significant day, when I look to see the unveiling of the New Zealand Wars memorial that we\u2019ve done this morning and hear the k\u014Drero by Professor Taiarahia Black, as well, around it being a millennium moment, and the announcement that we made today, as a Government, that we will be ensuring that all schools\u2014all kura\u2014will be teaching our New Zealand histories by the year 2022. Then, to top it all off, we have the first reading of this bill, because if there is one person in the history of our country that should be taught in our schools\u2014and will be taught in our schools\u2014it is Rua K\u0113nana. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EMr Black referred today to research and scholarship, and I\u2019ve really enjoyed\u2014I went to the library and pulled out the book and read up on Rua K\u0113nana, just myself, on my own. And I\u2019m struck by such a visionary leader that he was\u2014a visionary leader for T\u016Bhoe, for his people of Maungap\u014Dhatu, and the amazing works that he did\u2014amazing\u2014all grounded in scripture. A deep knowledge of scripture, and then the application of that in terms of everyday life to encourage the building of settlements and thriving communities\u2014and that\u2019s exactly what Rua K\u0113nana did in terms of his ministry to his people and the drawing that he had from far and wide. Also, with that, there came suspicion by the P\u0101keh\u0101, as there always was. As soon as there was someone of great influence and charisma in M\u0101oridom\u2014particularly, in the 19th and 20th centuries\u2014unfortunately, the settlers\u2019 Governments of the time saw that as a threat. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EWe have heard the history, and I want to acknowledge my tuahine, the Hon Nanaia Mahuta, who gave us the full, beautiful history of what occurred at Maungap\u014Dhatu. But I want to focus on the great visionary that Rua K\u0113nana was, not only in the construction of these settlements and the inspiration that he provided to his followers and to his people but the vision that he had for T\u016Bhoe and for the whole motu. I\u2019m really thrilled that, through this bill, we will be seeing it is part of helping to bring healing, the restoration of the mana, the pardon, the acknowledgments, but it\u2019s also about revitalising te h\u0101hi Iharaira, as well. So I want to acknowledge all of those wonderful works that Rua K\u0113nana is famous for\u2014famous. This is a real honour to be standing here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge all the work that\u2019s gone on in terms of the research, in terms of the work through Te Puni K\u014Dkiri in bringing this bill to the House and the agreement that was reached and that was signed to mark the centenary of that terrible, terrible police invasion that occurred in April 1916\u2014just over a hundred years ago these things were going on. I want to acknowledge the loss that occurred, the mamae, but also I\u2019m really thrilled that even though the P\u0101keh\u0101 Government of that day used the criminal justice system and used the laws of the time to try and put out the aspirations of Rua K\u0113nana and ultimately led to detrimental damage and decline for the Maungap\u014Dhatu community and its people, here we are today passing legislation that will restore that mana and restore the character, as has always been known, but we are doing it through laws today. So that\u2019s the wonderful thing that we can do in this House of Parliament.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ESo it has been quite a day. I am delighted that, as chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, we will be conducting our hearings into this bill. I certainly\u2014not for wont to intrude\u2014would welcome an invitation that we could travel up as a committee. I\u2019ve never been up there. I\u2019d love an invitation for our committee to come and conduct our hearings on this bill up in Maungap\u014Dhatu, or wherever\u2014or wherever. So, wherever\u2014whatever are the wishes of the hau k\u0101inga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ESo this is a really momentous day. I know that, as we do in these Treaty settlement speeches, we\u2019re M\u0101ori, so it\u2019s all about our connections and whakapapa and the like. I hail from the South, and also connect up to the North on my mum\u2019s side. So I don\u2019t quite have a connection to Maungap\u014Dhatu. However, I am pleased that I do have a wee k\u014Drero here, because of taku hono ki Maungap\u014Dhatu [my connection to Maungap\u014Dhatu]. N\u0101 taku t\u016Bpuna, n\u0101 Eruera Tirik\u0101tene i huaki te rori ki Maungap\u014Dhatu. M\u014D t\u0113nei mahi \u0101na ka takohatia mai e T\u016Bhoe t\u0113tahi tokotoko ki taku t\u016Bpuna. Kei taku wh\u0101nau tonu te tokotoko nei. Ko te r\u0101kau m\u014D t\u0113nei tokotoko n\u014D te taiapa tonu o te k\u0101inga o Rua K\u0113nana, and so he tino t\u0101onga t\u0113nei o taku wh\u0101nau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[My ancestor Eruera Tirik\u0101tene opened up the road to Maungap\u014Dhatu. For this work, my grandfather was gifted a walking stick by T\u016Bhoe. My family still have this walking stick to this day. The wood for the walking stick was from a fence post from the home of Rua K\u0113nana, and so it is a real treasure to my family.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge that when my grandfather opened the road to Maungap\u014Dhatu back in the day, it was a wonderful occasion. He was very spoilt. He was given some amazing gifts. This is one of them: this wonderful tokotoko, which is carved. It came from the palisades of one of Rua\u2019s whare at Maungap\u014Dhatu, made from the palisades. So it\u2019s wonderful to be able to make that connection to the wh\u0101nau of Rua K\u0113nana today. So I understand there was also a cloak, and I believe that\u2019s in Te Papa for safekeeping as well. But I want to acknowledge the wh\u0101nau of Rua K\u0113nana for those connections that we have.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EAlso, just to conclude, again, this is all about the restoration of character, mana, and reputation, and pardon. I know that we\u2019ve done this for Mokomoko. We\u2019ve given acknowledgments for Te Kooti Rikirangi. And I\u2019m really delighted that we are now, today, being able to put through this legislation for Rua K\u0113nana. So, with that, I just want to mihi again to the wh\u0101nau that have travelled today. I\u2019m certainly looking forward to further mahi that we will be doing in respect of this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, rau rangatira m\u0101, huri noa i t\u014D t\u0101tou Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[Therefore, to everyone in the House, thank you, thank you, thank you one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022 data-id=\u00226b2136e28c354214b965a7929ca03030\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226b2136e28c354214b965a7929ca03030\u0022\u003EHon NICKY WAGNER (National):\u003C/span\u003E Tihei mauri ora! Te Whare e t\u016B nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Te papa e takoto nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Ng\u0101 mate, haere, haere, haere. Ng\u0101 reo, ng\u0101 mana, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Kei te k\u014Drero ahau m\u014D te p\u0101nuitanga tuatahi o Te Pire kia Unuhia te Hara kai Runga i a Rua K\u0113nana / Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003E[I stand. The House that stands before us, greetings. The ground that lays before us, greetings. Those who have passed, rest in peace. The spokespeople, the people of authority, greetings to you all. I am speaking to the first reading of Te Pire kia Unuhia te Hara kai Runga i a Rua K\u0113nana / Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003EI\u2019m very pleased to be able to see this bill being introduced today during Te Wiki o Te Reo M\u0101ori. Also today we celebrated, as has been noted, te huranga o te tohu whakamahara ki ng\u0101 pakanga i Aotearoa\u2014the unveiling of the New Zealand Wars commemorative plaque. It\u2019s of great significance that we now recognise the New Zealand Wars and the men and women who fought in them, here in P\u0101remata Aotearoa. I particularly like the fact that the plaque is in a very prominent position above the doorways, and I think it\u2019s looking really good.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003EThat we now very keenly and actively celebrate Te Wiki o Te Reo M\u0101ori\u2014the M\u0101ori Language Week\u2014when in the past young M\u0101ori speakers were chastised by their teachers for speaking Te Reo, that we prominently commemorate the New Zealand Wars, and, of course, even the name of those wars has changed over the years in our Parliament, and that this bill to pardon Rua K\u0113nana, the T\u016Bhoe prophet, is being introduced into the House today shows just how far we have come and how much has changed in New Zealand over the years. In the 21st century we are a far more understanding, inclusive, diverse, and tolerant society. We expect a better, fairer, and culturally richer quality of life, and that is to the benefit of all of us\u2014this generation and the generation to come.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003EIn fact, New Zealanders reading the story of Rua K\u0113nana from over a century ago find it very difficult to understand how he could have been so badly treated by the Crown, and that they could have used such force to arrest him. Bringing 70\u201470\u2014armed policemen to invade Maungap\u014Dhatu and, in the process, killing his son Toko Rua and Te Maipi Te Whiu, and wounding other M\u0101ori, and that four policemen were also injured, just seems incredible and all wrong to us today. Indeed, the Waitangi Tribunal in 2012 determined that the Crown used excessive force in arresting Rua K\u0113nana and that that arrest was unlawful because it happened on a Sunday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003EThere\u2019s no doubt that 2 April 1916 was a dark day in New Zealand\u2019s history and had terrible consequences for Rua K\u0113nana and his wh\u0101nau, and beyond that the followers of the Iharaira faith he founded. All suffered that day, and all their descendants have suffered from the consequences ever since. I think all New Zealanders were supportive when the Crown, represented by the Hon Te Ururoa Flavell and the Hon Christopher Finlayson, went to Maungap\u014Dhatu marae in September 2017 to sign an agreement with the trust, representing the wh\u0101nau and the followers of the faith, to progress the pardon of Rua K\u0113nana\u2014a pardon promised 101 years late, a pardon long overdue. For all that time, Rua K\u0113nana was, in the eyes of the law, a criminal. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003EBut now is the time to change that. Today, we introduce a bill that will ensure him a statutory pardon. Nothing, of course, will erase the violence and the horror of the Maungap\u014Dhatu invasion that April Sunday in 1916, but at least now the Crown has apologised, and within the bill is a declaration to restore the character, to restore the mana, to restore the reputation of Rua K\u0113nana, his descendants, and the followers of the Iharaira faith that he founded. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002292824476-4e66-4052-8435-b049833d8b83\u0022\u003ENew Zealand will be a better place now that this miscarriage of justice, this historic wrong, has been recognised and an apology made. Many things have gone wrong in our country over the years and people have suffered, but I know that New Zealanders today are keen to right those wrongs. Hopefully, as they are recognised, we can find ways to make amends, to apologise, and to heal some of the hurt so that we can move forward together. I commend this bill to the House during Te Wiki o Te Reo M\u0101ori. Kia Kaha Te Reo M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022 data-id=\u002231161aba7ecb488185f65a84cfeb01f7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002231161aba7ecb488185f65a84cfeb01f7\u0022\u003EKIRITAPU ALLAN (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E \u201CTe roa, te whenua e t\u0101whai atu r\u0101. E noho ana hoki au ki P\u014Dneke r\u0101 hia. E awhi ana hoki au. Ko koe r\u0101 Te Karauna. Hei whakairitanga m\u014D te mate o taku tinana nei e.\u201D\u2014e ai ki te k\u014Drero o Rua, \u0101 muri i t\u014Dna haerenga kei k\u014Dnei ki P\u014Dneke i te tau 1909. Me maumahara t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EKa huri ake au ki a koutou ng\u0101 m\u014Drehu. Ki a koutou ng\u0101 uri o Rua K\u0113nana, te poropiti, ki a koutou ng\u0101 toenga o ng\u0101 tamariki a Iharaira me ng\u0101 uri o Maungap\u014Dhatu. \u0100nei oku mihi ki a koutou. Ko koutou e kawea ng\u0101 tino hiahia o te poropiti. Ko koutou e kawea te taumahatanga o ng\u0101 kaupapa i ng\u0101 w\u0101 ia tau, ia tau, ia tau, ia r\u0101, ia r\u0101, ia r\u0101. E ng\u0101 pakanga o muri ki ng\u0101 pakanga o \u0113nei r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EKa nui \u014Dku mihi ki a koutou e \u014Dku nei rangatira kua haramai nei i t\u0113nei r\u0101 whakahirahira. Mai i te maunga o Maungap\u014Dhatu, kei k\u014Dnei ki t\u014D t\u0101tou nei Whare o Te P\u0101remata. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E[\u201CThe long, the country that stretches long and wide. I am in Wellington indefinitely. I also embrace you. You are the Crown. There will be relief for the illness within me.\u201D\u2014according to Rua, after travelling here to Wellington in the year 1909. We must remember.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EI turn to you, the descendants. To you, the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana, the prophet; to you, the leftovers of the children of Iharaira and the descendants of Maungap\u014Dhatu. Here are my acknowledgments to you. You carry the hopes of the prophet. You carried the burden of this matter every year, every year, every year, every day, every day, every day. The battles of the future to the battles of today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EI give my heartfelt acknowledgments to you, my distinguished leaders, who have made it here on this important day. From the mountain of Maungap\u014Dhatu, here we are in Parliament. Greetings.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s not lost upon me that in 1909 the prophet Rua K\u0113nana travelled down to Wellington. He came down from Maungap\u014Dhatu in a time politically wrought. The Crown, just two years prior, had introduced the Tohunga Suppression Act 1907, many say as a consequence of watching the movement that Rua K\u0113nana was leading up in Maungap\u014Dhatu. In 1909, also\u2014probably not unlike today, as we all have in our own various homes\u2014there were different views in the ways in which to advance the aspirations of the people in Te Urewera. So the prophet Rua K\u0113nana took it upon himself to come down here to advocate on behalf of Ng\u0101 Iharaira\u2019s aspirations for the whenua, for ng\u0101 wawata\u2014the aspirations for development, economic development, for opening up the roads. The words that I shared at the start\u2014and I couldn\u2019t sing it as eloquently as our friends may do at some point\u2014were words that he wrote, as I best understand, on his haerenga back home to Maungap\u014Dhatu: the vastness, the voice, declaration of the land connecting part of this land to another. As I contemplate here in Wellington, I am cautious with your means\u2014with you, the Crown. To uphold your process that beset the difficulties and connections to my land connected to my body.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EConsequently, as we have come to hear in this House today, but also over many a year and many a fora\u2014whether it\u2019s been through the tribunals or on paepae in warm houses throughout your rohe\u2014we have heard how the prophet was right to be cautious. We have heard from colleagues in this House\u2014the Hon Nanaia Mahuta just prior, and eloquently summarised by colleagues from across the aisle\u2014the actions of the Crown and the consequences thereof for your people which led us here to this moment in time today, where we, on behalf of the Crown, apologise to you, ng\u0101 uri o Rua K\u0113nana, for the wrongful pursuit of and incarceration of and the death of your people and your place. Today marks another step in restoring the balance between the Crown and your people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EMy colleagues have acknowledged many of the events that occurred around that time, but, for me, I want to stretch my mind back to 2003, when three women\u2014Tira Tamiana, Tiare Ture Whenua, and Kirituia Tumarae\u2014brought this claim to give voice to Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira in the tribunal.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EKa huri ake au ki a koe e te p\u0101p\u0101, e Richard. Kua kitea koe i waenganui i a t\u0101tou me maumahara te wahine a Kirituia, t\u014D hoa tino p\u016Bmau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E[I turn to you, my elder, Richard. I have seen you amongst us and must remember Kirituia, your beloved.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EI just want to acknowledge that we feel her here with us today. I recall when you received the Crown up at Maungap\u014Dhatu in 2003. Kirituia\u2019s tangi, Kirituia\u2019s k\u0101ranga to the Crown, which I have etched in my memory, as she called out to all those that had been lost, as she called out to, it felt like, the stars of several universes far beyond the realms that we were standing within. But that k\u0101ranga stretched for nigh on 30 minutes, I would say, unbroken. She brought the pain and the grief\u2014the mamae\u2014of the uri o Rua K\u0113nana. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EToday marks 16-odd years since those stories were shared with the Crown. It\u2019s been a long journey for those that have remained to ensure that justice, in some way, shape, or form, comes and that the balance is restored for ng\u0101 uri o Rua K\u0113nana.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EI want to turn to when I was a mere 19-year-old, just finished my second year of law school, and travelled up to the Ureweras\u2014I don\u2019t know what I had in my mind\u2014with your lawyer, who has stuck by you for many years, Jason Pou. I travelled up with Jason, and, actually, we ended up staying about five months up in the Ureweras. We etched your stories into briefs of evidence.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge my friend Atamira Tumarae, who was 15 years old, as she stood, in 2003, up in Maungap\u014Dhatu and shared the k\u014Drero of Rua K\u0113nana, as she shared the mamae that her generation and all uri carried as a consequence of the pakanga, as a consequence of our actions\u2014the Crown\u2019s actions. And she spoke too then\u2014and I spoke with her again this morning\u2014how all of this is only about ensuring the aspirations, that today marks a shift in the restoration of the relationship that brings about\u2014\u201Ctransformational change\u201D were the words she used\u2014transformational change for your peoples. So we embark upon this journey together.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge Te Ururoa Flavell, who, too, formed an instrumental part alongside his colleagues in the previous Government. We acknowledge you, and we thank you, and we\u2019re here to embark together on the next stages of this relationship. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022 data-id=\u0022db530c3fbd4a4372b6703653601b5a3c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022db530c3fbd4a4372b6703653601b5a3c\u0022\u003EHon TIM MACINDOE (National\u2014Hamilton West):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou e Te Whare, e te iwi, ng\u0101 mihi nui ki a koutou. Ko t\u0113nei Te Wiki o Te Reo M\u0101ori. Me whakanuia e t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E[Greetings, Madam Speaker. Greetings to the House, to the tribe, greetings to you all. This is M\u0101ori Language Week. We must celebrate it.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EIt is right that we celebrate M\u0101ori Language Week\u2014and I apologise that a Minister, who would have spoken Te Reo much more impressively than I do, has just sat down. Clearly, there\u2019s been a misunderstanding there about the speaking list. It is right that we celebrate M\u0101ori Language Week and, for those who have as limited a command of Te Reo as I do, that we try to extend our knowledge and our use of the language. It is fitting\u2014perhaps, even if it\u2019s a happy coincidence\u2014that we mark the first reading of this Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill in Te Wiki o Te Reo M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EThe history of the wrong that this bill seeks to put right, or at least to acknowledge, arose in part from cultural ignorance just over a century ago. It is also appropriate to acknowledge descendants of the Ng\u0101i T\u016Bhoe prophet Rua K\u0113nana, who are present in the gallery today for this historic occasion, because this is a momentous day for them\u2014and we honour them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EI also acknowledge with great respect the presence of the former Minister for M\u0101ori Development the Hon Te Ururoa Flavell, who\u2019s been acknowledged by others\u2014and rightly so. He is greatly missed by all of us in this House, and, in his absence, the former Attorney-General, the Hon Christopher Finlayson. They were a formidable duo. As previous speakers have noted, this bill gives effect to the agreement between the Crown and Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira me Ng\u0101 Uri o Maungap\u014Dhatu Charitable Trust. I have a copy of that agreement here in my hand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EI\u2019m speaking, today, in my relatively new capacity as the shadow Attorney-General in the Opposition National Party. I acknowledge the considerable body of work that was undertaken by the Waitangi Tribunal in its Te Ururoa\u2014Te Urewera inquiry. I\u2019m sure there was an inquiry into you at some stage, Te Ururoa, as well! But in this case it was the Te Urewera inquiry which concluded that the police in 1916 used excessive force against the Maungap\u014Dhatu community and that the arrest of Rua K\u0113nana for sedition, for his opposition to M\u0101ori conscription in the First World War, was unlawful. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EThat led to the agreement which this bill is designed to enact\u2014and I, of course, anticipate it soon will be\u2014to provide a statutory pardon in legislation, to provide a summary of the circumstances around the 1916 invasion of Maungap\u014Dhatu, Crown acknowledgments to the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana and the Iharaira faith, a Crown apology to the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira, a pardon to Rua K\u0113nana for the conviction that he sustained for moral resistance to arrest, and a declaration to restore the character, mana, and reputation of Rua K\u0113nana, his uri, and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira\u2014the followers of the Iharaira faith. I apologise for my, at times, inaccurate pronunciation, but this is a sincerely felt endorsement of that agreement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EThis apology is issued by the Crown. Although we are now in Opposition, the National Party is proud to be in the House today to confirm our continuing strong support for this bill, for the apology, and for the aims of the agreement signed just over two years ago\u2014in fact, in one of the final acts of the outgoing Government, led by the Rt Hon Sir Bill English, undertaken by the Hon Te Ururoa Flavell and the Hon Christopher Finlayson on behalf of Her Majesty te Ku\u012Bni Elizabeth II, and by Dan Hiramana-Rua on behalf of the trust.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003ESo that\u2019s why it is so important to emphasise that this is a bill that enjoys bipartisan support, that reflects the determination of Te Ururoa Flavell and Christopher Finlayson to acknowledge the history and do right by the Crown, and which marks an historic occasion for the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana and followers of the Iharaira faith. So I endorse the sentiments and the emotions of those who have spoken before me this afternoon in this debate. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EA pardon is a significant step for the Crown to take. It acknowledges that a wrong was done in the Crown\u2019s name by Crown agents. It acknowledges, in this instance, that mana was undermined and that suffering occurred, which has continued for more than a century. It signifies a determination to put right the wrong that was done. It is a rare occasion for the Crown to issue an apology, and that, of course, underlines its gravitas and its significance.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003EI look forward to learning more of the history of an event that, I acknowledge, I learnt nothing about despite growing up and receiving all of my education in this country, as the select committee undertakes its work and, ultimately, reports to this House. So, in conclusion, this is an historic day tinged, of course, with sadness and history that must be acknowledged, but which signals, I sincerely hope, healing, reconciliation, and the restoration of mana. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022 data-id=\u0022a693860173574b0bbf6955e916f56dea\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a693860173574b0bbf6955e916f56dea\u0022\u003EMARAMA DAVIDSON (Co-Leader\u2014Green):\u003C/span\u003E E Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Huri noa ki a t\u0101tou katoa i roto i t\u0113nei Whare P\u0101remata. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Tuatahi he mihi aroha ki a koutou ng\u0101 uri o Maunga P\u014Dhatu me Rua K\u0113nana, ki a koutou o te h\u0101hi Iharaira.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E[Madam Speaker, greetings. Greetings to everyone who is in this Parliament. Greetings. Firstly, I would like to give a heartfelt acknowledgement to the descendants of Maunga P\u014Dhatu and Rua K\u0113nana and the church of Iharaira.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI wanted to get further than the start of my speech before I started having a tangi. It\u2019s quite hurtful to be an educated w\u0101hine M\u0101ori, political leader in this House and not know this history. I\u2019m happy that today we declared that, in our education, we will gift all our nation\u2019s children the chance to better understand: the chance to better understand this is us, the chance to better understand who we are\u2014not so that we put upon the generations behind us shame and guilt, but so that we have a clearer understanding of what happened and can address justice and harmonious relations for M\u0101ori and tauiwi and P\u0101keh\u0101 to live in this land of ours in a way that acknowledges the pono and the tika, in a way that hohou te rongo restores the balance for all of us to be able to walk free of the ignorance that far too many of us hold of what happened to our people, to our communities, to our ancestors. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EThis is the day for Rua K\u0113nana and his uri and followers to be acknowledged firmly and at the forefront of this k\u014Drero in Parliament\u2014and this is a common story across our lands\u2014and I want my children to know your story. My children are not from your iwi or your maunga or your awa. My children are from Te Tai Tokerau, and Te Tai R\u0101whiti, and Scotland, and I want them to know your story because it is our story. And I want to stop feeling inadequate about what we grow up not knowing as a nation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI wanted my contribution to be focused on the legacy of Rua K\u0113nana and going right back to before the invasion by the Crown into Maungap\u014Dhatu, going right back to the incredible mahi that he led with his people to clear hundreds of acres of dense native bush, to plant orchards and divert a stream of water, and to build whare\u2014and with innovative architecture\u2014and building a community, and a disciplined community, for the purposes of independence and tino rangatiratanga and connecting his people with their whakapapa and the whenua. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EHe also stood against racial discrimination and actually this, in my understanding, was at the core of what led to the escalated police presence\u2014this is what we might call something similar today: the escalated police presence\u2014which initially came about because he wanted to do what everyone else was doing legally but which for M\u0101ori came under a different judgment, and he railed against that racial discrimination. I acknowledge that stand because today in this House this Government is trying to correct that exact same racial discrimination in our system, in our justice system, which is still here today, where two people, from two different communities can do the same thing\u2014the same thing\u2014but come under different laws, different judgments, different penalties, and different apprehension approaches. It\u2019s still happening, and so we are continuing to fix the work that Rua K\u0113nana stood strong against right back then, 100 years ago. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EThat led to, I think it was, the first sort of police presence, where, I believe, his response was to offer them a cup of tea and have a k\u014Drero and a sit down. And then a second party of more police from Gisborne arrived some hours later, as you move from the cup of tea and the kai\u2014a big kai is being prepared. And then the third wave of 57 or so police, who had ignored Rua K\u0113nana\u2019s request for a k\u014Drero\u2014\u201CLet\u2019s have a k\u014Drero.\u201D\u2014and just rode straight on to the marae. That invasion lasted three days\u2014including his son being shot in cold blood; including arrests and being held and detained, and without trial, and a long trial which decimated the funds and the wh\u0101nau and the connection of the people to the Maungap\u014Dhatu community. That trial and that burden are the aspiration, I understand, of the descendants today who want to bring people back to the community, who want to restore that decimation and long-lasting harm that happened as a result of the original hara, the original injustice. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EWe, as my colleagues have said, all attended the unveiling of the New Zealand Land Wars plaque that sits behind my seat here. And it was announced from the Prime Minister today that our schools will include New Zealand history as a core subject, and now we are here recalling the mana and the tapu of Rua K\u0113nana and his uri and his followers to restore the reputation and the dignity of everyone who had to face that harm. And it is right and it is right and it is right. It is right also, previous Minister Te Ururoa Flavell, that you are acknowledged today. This is restorative, important, crucial mahi for our nation, for all of us. There is no minimising the importance of this. And it is not finished; this is just one of the important steps and there is ongoing work to do. I acknowledge everyone who has worked to get it into this House, to get the pardon into this House today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI want to finish with\u2014part of the bill refers to the pardon in a way that suggests that the Crown forgives Rua K\u0113nana and his people. And I stand here as a representative of the Crown to ask for your forgiveness. Rua K\u0113nana, Maungap\u014Dhatu, H\u0101hi Iharaira\u2014I stand here as a representative of the Crown asking for your forgiveness. Kia ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u002224c40d9c9c704a0c8d286b9ef9722967\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002224c40d9c9c704a0c8d286b9ef9722967\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (Minister of Forestry):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ahatia ng\u0101 manuhiri kua tat\u016B mai ki k\u014Dnei, tukuna m\u0101ku \u0113nei k\u014Drero \u014Dku e takitaki ki t\u0113tahi karakia n\u014D roto i \u014Dku whenua, i a Ng\u0101puhi. Otir\u0101, ka whakarerek\u0113 w\u0113tahi kupu kia \u014Drite ai ki te kaupapa o te r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EP\u016B kaukau mai r\u0101 te uri p\u016Briri ko Hine noa te m\u0101takitaki, tangi \u0101miomio te karoro, ko Hine Moana te papaki ki te \u0101kau roa e kui, e kui. Kei taku p\u012Bp\u012Bwhararoa k\u014Dk\u014D t\u016Brou, kei hea koe? Ko t\u0113nei t\u0101u ko te karere a Mahuru, t\u016B mai r\u0101 a Maunga P\u014Dhatu. Whakaeke mai te toi, tio mai ai ko ko ko koia. T\u0113 koa ia te Urewera, koia ka tipu whakaritorito ai. Taku pua k\u014Dwhai e purotu nei i te ata ki te rau k\u016Bmara. Haeata tonu i te maru ahiahi ki te Huiarau. Nau mai ia waewae taitua ki te whenua pongi e tau nei. E whiti, whiti te wanawana, whiti te rearea, whiti ora ki te whai ao, ki te ao m\u0101rama. Tih\u0113 wa mauri ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ETe tikanga o t\u0113n\u0101 k\u014Drero, he tohu kua tae mai taua manu i ng\u0101kaunuitia ai e \u014D t\u0101tou weinga, ar\u0101, ko te karere a Mahuru. Me p\u0113n\u0101 te whakam\u0101rama m\u014D te hanga o ng\u0101 mahi e oti ana r\u0101 roto i ng\u0101 kupu kua tuhia ki te kapu o te pepa i runga i te Pire kei t\u014D t\u0101tou aroaro i t\u0113nei r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ET\u014Dna tikanga he maheatanga. Ar\u0101 noa atu ng\u0101 mahi whakah\u0101wea, ar\u0101 noa atu ng\u0101 mahi t\u016Bkino i meatia ai ki te hanga nei e meatia ana ko ng\u0101 Iharaira. K\u0101tahi ka mauherehere, te Mihaia, ka taot\u016Bngia, ka mate ko te tamaiti.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira ko t\u0101 m\u0101tou he tautoko i t\u0113nei tau, i t\u0113nei w\u0101, k\u0101tahi, te w\u0101 o te Wiki o te Reo M\u0101ori. Tuarua, t\u0113nei w\u0101 e karangahia nei e t\u0101tou e te iwi M\u0101ori ko te Mahuru, tuatoru, te rangi e whakatairangatia ana t\u0113nei taumata hou hei whai m\u0101 w\u0101 t\u0101tou tamariki, ar\u0101, kia \u0101kona wh\u0101nuitia m\u0101rikatia ai ng\u0101 \u0101konga, ng\u0101 tauira katoa kei ng\u0101 hau e wh\u0101 o Aotearoa ki te h\u012Btoria me ng\u0101 t\u0101tai k\u014Drero m\u014D Aotearoa hoki rawa ki te w\u0101 i tat\u016B mai ai \u014D t\u0101tou t\u016Bpuna i Wawau\u0101tea ki Aotearoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EAr\u0101 noa atu, m\u0101ku te k\u012B, ng\u0101 mihi e tika ana kia tau ki runga i a koutou ng\u0101 uri kua tae mai i t\u0113nei r\u0101. T\u0113tahi k\u014Drero hei tukunga m\u0101ku, taku mihi atu ki t\u0113n\u0101 huanga \u014Dku i t\u014Dna taha Ng\u0101puhi, ki a Te Ururoa. \u0100hua ongaonga pai ana ng\u0101 taringa ki te whakarongo ki \u014Dku hoa P\u0101keh\u0101 e whakam\u014Dmori ana kia pua i a r\u0101tou Te Reo M\u0101ori. Tata ana au te mea atu ki a r\u0101tou \u201CKo te Ururoa an\u014D te Ururoa, ko te Urewera an\u014D te Urewera\u201D kei whakap\u014Dh\u0113h\u0113ngia \u0113ra kupu e rua. N\u0101 reira e kara, n\u0101u t\u0113nei waka i whakatere. Tika ana koe kia hoki mai i t\u0113nei r\u0101, ko t\u014Dna otinga, me p\u0113nei te k\u014Drero. E tata pae mai ana ki uta.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira, koutou katoa, ng\u0101 uri o te hunga n\u0101 r\u0101tou t\u0113r\u0101 k\u0101inga i whakamarae, n\u0101 r\u0101tou t\u0113r\u0101 k\u0101inga i whakat\u016B ki te whare i whakam\u0101tautau ai kia puta he kai, ahakoa te anuanu o t\u0113r\u0101 kai, \u0113n\u0101 mea katoa me te whakam\u012Bharo te kaum\u0101tua nei, ehara i te mea he punarua, tahi, rua, toru, wh\u0101, rima, ono, whitu ka hia noa atu ng\u0101 w\u0101hine m\u0101 koutou an\u014D e whakariterite p\u0113nei i heke te wahine tuatahi, tuarua, tuatoru kei a koutou an\u014D t\u0113r\u0101. N\u0101 reira, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[What can I do for those visitors who have arrived here? Allow me to deliver these words, an incantation from my region, from Ng\u0101puhi. I will tailor some words to fit today\u2019s occasion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThe driftwood washes ashore, only Hine bears witness. The seagull squawks and it is the waves of Hine Moana crashing to the shore, my deity, oh my deity. Shining cuckoo, the call welcomed by all, where are you? Yours is to signal the arrival of Mahuru, Maunga P\u014Dhatu stands tall before me. Descend from the summit, sing to me, sing to me. The Urewera rejoices, for its growth will be bountiful. My k\u014Dwhai blooms beautifully in the morning at the endless k\u016Bmara. Dawn still rises on the shadows of Huiarau. Welcome, rays of sunlight to this boundless land. Shine, bring warmth, shine upon the bellbird, shine on the world of light. Tihe wa mauri ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThe meaning of what I\u2019ve just recited is that it is a sign that the bird our elders eagerly awaited has just arrived to signal the beginning of Mahuru. That is how you could also explain the effort that has been expended to get us to the point where those words on the paper are written to indicate the bill that is before us today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EIt is meant to be a clearing away. There were the many criticisms, there were the many nasty words directed to those who believed in Iharaira. Then, the messiah was imprisoned, then the son was wounded and eventually died.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ETherefore, ours is to support. On this day we support, firstly, M\u0101ori Language Week; secondly, the time of the year we M\u0101ori call Mahuru; thirdly, today we set a new purpose for our children, that they, as students, learn the full width and breadth of the histories of our country, going right back to the events since the great migration of our ancestors to New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EAnd so, I will say, it is only right to acknowledge you, the descendants who have arrived here today. I have one thing say: I would like to acknowledge my relation on my Ng\u0101puhi side, Te Ururoa. I am pleased to hear my P\u0101keh\u0101 colleagues attempting to speak M\u0101ori. I was close to pointing out to them \u201CTe Ururoa is Te Ururoa, te Urewera is te Urewera\u201D lest those two words be mixed up. My friend, you are responsible for getting this off the ground, so it is only fitting that you return here on this day. I would put it this way: the boat is almost ashore.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ETherefore, to you, the descendants of those who fashioned a home in that place, who fashioned somewhere to grow food, however distasteful the food, and the wonder of this elder, I do not have multiple wives\u2014one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, or however many wives. I will leave it to you to work out if you descend from the first, second, third. Thank you, one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI stand on behalf of the New Zealand First Party and, obviously, as a Minister to acknowledge what we are doing here today with Te Pire kia Unuhia te Hara kai Runga i a Rua K\u0113nana / Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill. Rua K\u0113nana\u2019s father, Tumoana, was a casualty of those wars in the times of the originator of the Ringat\u016B faith, Te Kooti.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI also said in Te Reo M\u0101ori that Mr Flavell and I went to St Stephen\u2019s School. We had a fellow student there who probably was the best student of Te Reo M\u0101ori\u2014other than, of course, Wassie Shortland and my good self, but he certainly was the most able in my time there\u2014and his name was Barna Heremia. I recall him regaling the boys from Ng\u0101puhi and other such places with somewhat mystical stories about Maungap\u014Dhatu and te taimana huna, the hidden diamond. Naturally, we were half-Tarar\u0101 and we were more interested in gum-digging than fanciful tales about diamonds. But this is a story that has lived amongst the families of the T\u016Bhoe and the way they have treasured the memories of not only their t\u016Brangawaewae but what happened to this particular individual.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThe media treated it in quite a scandalous fashion, and they used the fact that he was reputedly calling himself the kaiser as a basis for initiating further legal action, causing him to spend a protracted period of time in jail. I\u2019ve said with some humour that he turned and answered a calling up on Maungap\u014Dhatu, right in the interior of Te Urewera\u2014a spiritual calling\u2014but that is the tradition, and that tradition was conceived to be antagonistic to good order by the colonial Governments of the time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EAs it transpired, when Rua K\u0113nana went through his various court cases, it was a Ng\u0101puhi who was the interpreter, the kaiwhakam\u0101ori, kaiwhakap\u0101keh\u0101. He \u0101huatanga o t\u0113n\u0101 Ng\u0101puhi he \u014Drite ki ahau. Ko te nuinga o ng\u0101 t\u016Bpuna he P\u0101keh\u0101, he Tarar\u0101hake r\u0101nei engari he mea whakatupu e tana kuia M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[One of the traits of that Ng\u0101puhi is similar to my own. Most ancestors were P\u0101keh\u0101, or Dalmatian, but he was brought up by a M\u0101ori grandmother.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThe name of that interpreter was Hare Hongi, otherwise known as Henry Stowell, who wrote a book, a vade mecum about the M\u0101ori grammar, around about the time of the First World War. His grandmother, whom he was reared by, was called Mo-mo, and Mo-mo was given that name by her old people, because in those days, if you did not have a strong, powerful\u2014certainly in the Ng\u0101puhis anyway\u2014male figure, then when the woman was married off, and in this case to the P\u0101keh\u0101, it weakened their hold on the land.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EKo te kaum\u0101tua nei ka heke mai te kuia e karangahia nei ko \u201CMo-mo\u201D, n\u0101 ko koutou ko T\u016Bhoe he maumau an\u014D hoki engari he rerek\u0113 te whakam\u0101oritanga ki a koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[This elder was descended from a woman who was known as \u201CMo-mo\u201D. You, T\u016Bhoe, are \u201Cmaumau\u201D as well, but it has a different meaning to you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ESo I stand, as I wrap this speech up, to acknowledge that what we do today is to revisit part of history and, at the highest court in the land, put on the pages, on the legislative record of our nation\u2019s history, an apology and an explanation as to what really happened at that particular point in time. It adds to the legacy, it adds to the tradition, and, given what I\u2019ve said in our M\u0101ori language, it happens at a propitious time. This is what the M\u0101ori call Mahuru, the springtime, and it\u2019s the arrival of the p\u012Bp\u012Bwharauroa, the chant that I offered at the beginning of my speech. It\u2019s also, as the Speaker said earlier today, the time when we have unveiled a plaque acknowledging those who fought and fell in the M\u0101ori wars, and also the day and the week that we have announced that all children will be taught the proper history of Aotearoa New Zealand, and in the week that we are celebrating and encouraging all New Zealanders to strip away the cringe factor and enjoy a higher level of enthusiasm and give Te Reo M\u0101ori a go.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ESo I say to all of my friends in the House: tell your sons and daughters, \u201CDon\u2019t go to London, get pissed, and have the bravery to do kapa haka and ka mate, ka mate; learn a bit of language before you go away.\u201D Thank you very much.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227940e9f2-9cea-43d5-8f16-3b470e34f47f\u0022 data-id=\u002277075ec868234d92ae62bf74b1c2ed49\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227940e9f2-9cea-43d5-8f16-3b470e34f47f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002277075ec868234d92ae62bf74b1c2ed49\u0022\u003EMATT KING (National\u2014Northland):\u003C/span\u003E It\u2019s a pleasure to speak on this bill, Te Pire kia Unuhia te Hara kai Runga i a Rua K\u0113nana / Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill. Nau mai, haere mai. I\u2019d like to acknowledge the Hon Nanaia Mahuta for her heartfelt contribution earlier on, and also Marama Davidson for hers, and my colleague Rino Tirikatene as well for his contribution. I\u2019d also like to acknowledge Te Wiki o Te Reo M\u0101ori and to let you know that I am a rank amateur when it comes to Te Reo, so I apologise in advance.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227940e9f2-9cea-43d5-8f16-3b470e34f47f\u0022\u003ERua K\u0113nana was a T\u016Bhoe prophet who set up a community at the Maungap\u014Dhatu, in the Urewera mountains. In 1916, he was arrested for sedition for his opposition to M\u0101ori conscription in the First World War\u2014sad times indeed. I understand that his trial was one of the longest in New Zealand history. So I\u2019m proud to be in the House today speaking in support of this bill, and it is long overdue. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227940e9f2-9cea-43d5-8f16-3b470e34f47f\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to acknowledge the work of the Hon Te Ururoa Flavell, and the Hon Chris Finlayson. I know from the previous speakers that he has been mentioned many times, and both men are sorely missed, and I would go so far as to say that your work is unfinished and you\u2019d be welcome back any time, and I would love you to put your name back in the hat. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229ee2eb1f9f0f45a6885bb8f67430f87c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227940e9f2-9cea-43d5-8f16-3b470e34f47f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022da1594715a624e2bac2bf6ea42518fb8\u0022\u003EMATT KING\u003C/span\u003E: I thank them for their efforts when in Government. I know that for Te Ururoa Flavell, he was a slave master in the gym, and our colleagues the Hon Mark Mitchell and the Hon Alfred Ngaro miss him, and it\u2019s testament to their extended pukus that they\u2019d like to see him back. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227940e9f2-9cea-43d5-8f16-3b470e34f47f\u0022\u003ESo this is an appropriate response to a specific set of circumstances focused on the criminal convictions of Rua K\u0113nana. I might add that since I have been in Parliament\u2014only two years\u2014as a result of being on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and also of being involved in these bills, I\u2019ve actually had a lot more understanding of our history than I ever got when I went to school. I learnt a little bit about the American Civil War and a bunch of other things, but I didn\u2019t really know a huge amount of history about New Zealand, and I\u2019ve had to learn it because, being part of this process, you have to research your material and you have to understand what went on; so it\u2019s a real bonus for me. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227940e9f2-9cea-43d5-8f16-3b470e34f47f\u0022\u003EThe bill seeks to restore the character, the mana, and the reputation of Rua K\u0113nana and his descendants. We acknowledge that mana and the preservation of reputation is very important in the M\u0101ori community. This bill adheres to the Crown\u2019s objective to promote reconciliation in the wake of historical wrongs. This pardon is provided to Rua K\u0113nana for the conviction he sustained for moral resistance to arrest. This is a historic occasion for the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana and the followers of the Iharaira faith. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227940e9f2-9cea-43d5-8f16-3b470e34f47f\u0022\u003EThe statutory pardon and apology will go some way to healing the wounds caused by the events of 1916 and alleviating the stigma associated with Rua K\u0113nana\u2019s descendants and followers of the faith. It is part of New Zealand. We have to own up to what happened. The agreement and pardon is about moving towards reconciliation. The historic agreement brought closure to 101 years of conflict between T\u016Bhoe and the Crown. What happened to Rua K\u0113nana has a very long-lasting, intergenerational effect on wh\u0101nau. It is now up to the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana to help the next generation move forward and rebuild a prosperous community. It is important for wh\u0101nau to reconnect those disconnected back to their land, identity, faith, and wh\u0101nau. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227940e9f2-9cea-43d5-8f16-3b470e34f47f\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022 data-id=\u002226fc648bcbae4db680a765dd600fb15e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002226fc648bcbae4db680a765dd600fb15e\u0022\u003EHon MEKA WHAITIRI (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti):\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003ERua K\u0113nana,\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003ET\u016Bhoe prophet from the Urewera,\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EOh Rua, Rua K\u0113nana. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E\u0100e, e tika te mihi ki a koe e Te M\u0101ngai Te Whare: t\u0113n\u0101 koe. E ng\u0101 mema katoa i t\u0113r\u0101 taha, i t\u0113nei taha, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. Anei ng\u0101 mihi, mihi p\u014Dwhiri i ng\u0101 uri o Rua K\u0113nana, me ng\u0101 uri o Maunga P\u014Dhatu, me ng\u0101 uri o te H\u0101hi Iharaira. N\u014D reira, nau mai, nau mai, haramai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E[Yes, it is only right to acknowledge you, Mr Speaker: greetings. To the members on that side, this side, greetings to you all. Here are the acknowledgments, the welcome acknowledgments, to the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana and the descendants of Maunga P\u014Dhatu and the descendants of the Church of Iharaira. Therefore, welcome, welcome, welcome.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI\u2019m proud to take a call in support of the first reading of this very important bill. As the member of Te Rohe P\u014Dtae, Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti, he uri o Te Tai R\u0101whiti, Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu hoki, I stand in support of this bill. I want to acknowledge what we are doing here in pardoning a prophet, a visionary leader of the T\u016Bhoe people, at the hands of the Crown\u2019s omissions and acts in breaching the Treaty that saw Rua K\u0113nana wrongfully arrested\u2014who served an imprisonment term wrongfully. So this bill absolutely tries and corrects a wrong, and I want to acknowledge the mamae that his uri have carried for many decades, and the small part that the Crown should be addressing to get the relationship back on the road and the reconciliation between his people and the Government back on a positive note. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the Minister for M\u0101ori Development, who has introduced the bill. I also want to acknowledge the former Minister for M\u0101ori Development the Hon Te Ururoa Flavell for his work in the signing of this agreement between the people and the Crown. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EWhen we are contributing to important pieces of legislation such as this, we do\u2014it\u2019s a M\u0101ori custom\u2014try and draw some linkages, or some hononga, between where you come from and the kaupapa that we are addressing here today. I want to acknowledge, as an uri of Te Kooti Rikirangi of Ng\u0101ti Maru of Rongowhakaata, even though we are acknowledging Rua K\u0113nana, the similarities in parts between Te Kooti, also unfairly and unlawfully imprisoned in the Chathams, but also, when he returned\u2014similar to the small research I\u2019ve done on Rua K\u0113nana\u2014back from Gisborne in his 20s as a labourer, he had a vision, very similar to Te Kooti when he returned from Wharekauri. Then we see the absolute commitment to their faith. Te Kooti, obviously, Ringat\u016B, and we\u2019ve got Rua K\u0113nana with the Iharaira faith. I wanted to acknowledge the similarities between our tipuna, our visionary, and the Rua K\u0113nana prophet himself around looking after their people, particularly in the h\u0101hi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI also want to acknowledge that Te Ureweras\u2014in my small research\u2014was under enormous siege of people trying to mine it and mill it, which is why Rua set up Maungap\u014Dhatu, to protect the whenua for their people. So again we will see in this House, when we come to acknowledging the wrongs of the past, similarities of our t\u012Bpuna, our visionary leaders like Rua was, in protecting what whenua we had. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003ESo I\u2019m really pleased to take this small call, and, of course, this is the first reading of three. I look forward, as the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee said, in travelling\u2014at the invitation of the hauk\u0101inga\u2014to have the hearings up there. I just want to finish with acknowledging Professor Taiarahia Black\u2019s k\u014Drero this morning, when he shared\u2014and, of course, Jo Hayes talked about the mekameka. I want to proudly say that my name is actually not Meka; it\u2019s actually Mekameka. I wanted to share, when I heard the story this morning, again, that hononga between your tipuna and a small part of myself in that my actual name is Mekameka Whaitiri. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, I\u2019m pleased to stand and support this bill. It is a very honourable time\u2014it\u2019s a special occasion for this House. I commend it to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022 data-id=\u0022d158b96ddcee4860992c5be5deace85b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d158b96ddcee4860992c5be5deace85b\u0022\u003EANGIE WARREN-CLARK (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te M\u0101ngai o Te Whare. Ng\u0101 mihi nui ki a koutou. Today I stand to take a call on this very special bill, Te Pire kia Unuhia te Hara kai Runga i a Rua K\u0113nana, the Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill. This House and our guests in the gallery may wonder why I, a very obviously P\u0101keh\u0101 woman who is pretty bad at Te Reo M\u0101ori, is standing to take a call. Well, I\u2019m standing today because my daughter is a daughter of T\u016Bhoe, and Mihiroa Te Kaawa was her great-great-grandmother, and Rua K\u0113nana was her great-great-grandfather.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003ESo I\u2019m standing today because I know for once what it is like to stand with the Crown but also to stand with my people at a time of healing and at a time where we have to recognise the history. I have been greatly honoured by our grandmother R\u0101wina Te Rupe R\u0101wina Rua, who talked to me at times. I was little bit afraid of her because she was t\u016Bturu M\u0101ori and she would scare me at times, but she would talk to me about Maungap\u014Dhatu and her time there when she lived there, and I\u2019m greatly honoured to carry that. May she rest in peace. I feel so deeply honoured to be here today, and I feel so deeply honoured to be able to say that this is important to my wh\u0101nau as well as to the Crown.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003EI have here the agreement to provide a statutory pardon for Rua K\u0113nana. I read it and I looked for the names that I knew, and I want to read some of that again today, because even though we have heard from other people, for me it\u2019s important to put into Hansard the effects of the agreement on 9 September between the Crown and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira me Ng\u0101 Uri o Maungap\u014Dhatu Charitable Trust, providing a statutory pardon for Rua K\u0113nana.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003EThe preamble states that \u201Cthe Waitangi Tribunal concluded in its Te Urewera inquiry that the police used excessive force against the Maungap\u014Dhatu community\u201D and \u201Cthe arrest of Rua K\u0113nana was unlawful [as it was] a Sunday\u201D\u2014and I note today it is also the 12th. \u201CThe [community of Maungap\u014Dhatu] went into decline after these events and \u2026 never recovered. Ng\u0101 Toenga \u2026, the Maungap\u014Dhatu Community, and the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana have carried the deep hurt, shame, and stigma of this invasion and its resulting economic [and] social [and] spiritual impacts\u201D for more than 100 years. We know that the deaths, the violence, the theft, and the rape occurred at the time that Rua was arrested, and we know that Rua K\u0113nana was held in Mount Eden and the trial was long and that the community of Maungap\u014Dhatu fell into disarray.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003EThe bill summarises the circumstances of that invasion to Maungap\u014Dhatu. The bill provides an apology to the uri. The bill provides a pardon from the Crown to Rua K\u0113nana for the conviction he sustained for the moral resistance to arrest. The pardon contains a declaration to restore the character, mana, and reputation of Rua K\u0113nana, his uri, and followers of the faith.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003EIt is the beginning, not the end, of the process, and I look forward to our final reading. I look forward to the day that we all stand together at Maungap\u014Dhatu as one. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022 data-id=\u002204b11c2b9cc6430a88915d69f486bf07\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002204b11c2b9cc6430a88915d69f486bf07\u0022\u003ETODD MULLER (National\u2014Bay of Plenty):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e Te Mana Whakaw\u0101. I am the last speaker on the National Party side this afternoon as we reflect on the Rua K\u0113nana Pardon Bill. As I was listening and have been listening over the last half an hour, I have become increasingly daunted. How can I put words into this Chamber that can amplify the power of those who have spoken before me and acknowledge and assuage the pain that has so obviously been expressed here by my parliamentary colleagues? It is very humbling to be asked to say a few words.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003EI have to acknowledge, firstly, a good friend, Te Ururoa Flavell, who I\u2019ve known for a number of years. He has committed so much of his political and professional life to advancing this, and it was so appropriate that he did represent the Crown in September 2017.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003EWe have heard very eloquent speeches this afternoon about what this bill is seeking to do in pardoning Rua K\u0113nana. I am struck when I listen to the conversation, when the purpose of our speeches is to acknowledge this bill and its purpose, to give effect to the pardon to Rua K\u0113nana \u201Cfor the conviction he sustained for moral resistance to arrest. The restoration of the character, mana, and reputation of Rua K\u0113nana, his uri, and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki o Iharaira Faith\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003EThe last part of that is the bit that I have struggled with, because as I listen to the speeches and reflect on the story and the history, it strikes me that the descendants\u2019 mana has been immeasurably enhanced over the years by your courage and your persistence and your willingness to welcome the Crown back to facilitate this pardon. Yes, this pardon is enhancing the mana of Rua K\u0113nana and descendants, but in my view, your collective actions over many years have enhanced it even more than the power of this, and I want to acknowledge that. I find it extraordinary\u2014absolutely extraordinary.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003EI then look at these signatures and cannot imagine what that must have been like that day when you, on behalf of your people, are putting your name to the Crown\u2019s apology and pardon\u2014an extraordinary moment for all of you. Again, when I look at this, I am overwhelmed at your grace in allowing and facilitating that conversation in such a remarkable way as you did.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022fdb01002-a7cf-4a77-8f05-678d24a36849\u0022\u003EI guess my only last comment, speaking as directly to you as I can, is that I wonder what Rua K\u0113nana would reflect on today: what his advice and deep spiritual reflection and perspective would be\u2014for you, for us, for Aotearoa, and what he would say lies in front of us. I am sure that you know that more than I could ever put words to. All I ask is: continue to lead and demonstrate for us what that means and we all collectively will benefit. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022 data-id=\u0022678334cd59524702bfe7acb60ef9a4e7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022678334cd59524702bfe7acb60ef9a4e7\u0022\u003ETAMATI COFFEY (Labour\u2014Waiariki):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. He h\u014Dnore, he kororia ki Te Atua, he maung\u0101rongo ki runga i te mata o te whenua, he whakaaro pai ki ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata katoa. \u0100mine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ETuatahi, ka huri ng\u0101 whakaaro ki ng\u0101 mate o te motu tae noa ki te koroua o Ng\u0101ti Tar\u0101whai, o Te Arawa wh\u0101nui, ko Te Poroa Malcolm. E koro, e moe, e moe, e oki. Ka tangihia a Te Arawa e ng\u0101 mate o Mataatua, ka tangihia a Mataatua e ng\u0101 mate o Te Arawa. N\u014D reira, Mataatua, anei a Te Arawa e mihi atu nei. E aku rangatira. Ng\u0101 tamariki o te kohu. A T\u016Bhoe, moumou kai, moumou taonga, moumou t\u0101ngata ki te p\u014D. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 huihui mai t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E[Honour, glory, and peace on the land. May good thoughts come to all men. Amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EFirstly, I turn my thoughts to those who have passed on from throughout the country all the way to the elder of Ng\u0101ti Tarawhai and wider Te Arawa, Te Poroa Malcolm. Rest in peace. Te Arawa is mourned by Mataatua\u2019s dead; Mataatua is mourned by Te Arawa\u2019s dead. Therefore, Mataatua, Te Arawa acknowledges you. To the distinguished. The children of the mist. T\u016Bhoe, wasteful of food, wasteful of treasures, wasteful of people to the night. Greetings, greetings, welcome together one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EFirstly, I pay respects to our Ng\u0101ti Tarawhai koroua who we lost this week, and we had at Waik\u014Dhatu marae at Ruato. He will be missed by us, his iwi. Secondly, I stand to greet our manuhiri from the M\u0101taatua canoe who have travelled to be here today. I acknowledge our tears for their dead and their tears for our dead. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EToday is a very special day that has been a long time coming. I want to acknowledge that the start of this journey happened under the previous Government and under the Minister for M\u0101ori Development, and also the previous member for the Waiariki, the Hon Te Ururoa Flavell. T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Matua Te Ururoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EIt was a very wet day in September 2017 when I travelled for the first time to Maungap\u014Dhatu to witness the signing of the agreement between the Crown and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira me Ng\u0101 Uri o Maungap\u014Dhatu. I remember that the roads were pretty gnarly and that the torrential rain was coming down and it made one part of the road to Maungap\u014Dhatu kind of like a rollercoaster ride. I can remember the brother Nika standing there telling me, \u201CAh, bro, just plant your foot down and go!\u201D Thankfully, I made it up the hill and was there to witness what a significant event actually unfolded. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EAs a newcomer, it was enlightening to be there, to feel the wairua of Maungap\u014Dhatu, to experience the ruggedness of the Urewera, and to get lost in the famous maiden of the mist, Hine-p\u016Bkohu-rangi. What you couldn\u2019t physically see, though, was the hurt and the pain of the people of the land over the assault and the humiliation at Maungap\u014Dhatu in 1916 when police rolled into town and with an excessive force of 70 armed men killed two, with one of them being Rua K\u0113nana\u2019s son. Some were wounded, 31 were arrested, and Rua K\u0113nana himself was taken off for trial, ending up in Mt Eden prison for 18 months for morally resisting arrest. Cut to modern day: the Waitangi Tribunal, who concluded in its Te Urewera inquiry, that the police used excessive force against the Maungap\u014Dhatu community that day. They also found that the arrest of Rua K\u0113nana was unlawful, being effected on a Sunday. The Maungap\u014Dhatu community, it noted, went into decline after those events and has never quite recovered. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ENg\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira, the Maungap\u014Dhatu community, and the descendants of Rua K\u0113nana have carried the deep hurt, the shame, and the stigma of that invasion and its resulting economic and social and spiritual impacts. It\u2019s obviously their aspiration to restore their character, their mana, and the reputation of their t\u012Bpuna and also of themselves. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EThe tragic situation behind that story is well documented in the bill, and I actually encourage everybody in this House to read it. Many have worked hard these past two years, with humility, grace, and wisdom, but it\u2019s still a sad and very harrowing story of the colonial Government and the people of that land. \u201CKotahi Te Ture Mo Nga Iwi e Rua\u201D: let there be one law for two peoples. Can I say that it has been acted on today, as we speak. The multiple meanings of that statement on the famous flag represents the rising up of the people to seek equality in our society, and today, his descendants rise to put to rest the balance of justice with the ability to highlight what is not just. But it\u2019s by no means an end, but a continuation of a movement that started a very long time ago for Ng\u0101 Toenga a Iharaira and the rising up of Rua, through his thousand-plus descendants today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ELet this document, the bill, be a resource for all of those New Zealand children\u2014those tamariki\u2014in our kura, to learn from the mistakes of the past, including the mistakes of this Government and the way that it treats its citizens. Serendipitously, this coincides with the decision today to ensure that New Zealand history is in fact taught in our schools\u2014the good, the bad, and the really ugly. Hopefully, they will also learn about the other prophets who\u2019ve been part of our history: Mere Rikiriki, n\u014D Taihape; Paora Te P\u014Dtangaroa me Aperahama Taonu, n\u014D te N\u014Dta; Te Whatahoro, n\u014D Kahungunu ki Wairarapa; Te Kooti; R\u0101tana; Pauro Mareikura, me \u0113r\u0101 atu poropiti [and those other prophets].\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EMaybe the children will also learn about the Tohunga Suppression Act. Maybe they\u2019ll also learn about the Suppression of Rebellion Act and the impact that those Acts had on our prophets, and all of the other laws that the Government enacted, asserting the colonial domination over M\u0101ori here in New Zealand. Wai ka tohu, wai ka hua?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003E[Who can know? Who can say?]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EThis bill is an apology, but the words on the page aren\u2019t as sweet as words to the ear. So, Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira me Ng\u0101 Uri o Maungap\u014Dhatu here is your apology and I\u2019m going to do it nice and slow for you. From the Crown: \u201CThe Crown acknowledges that\u2014(a) the arrest, detention, conviction, and sentence of Rua K\u0113nana have caused lasting damage to his character, mana, and reputation and to the character, mana, and reputation of Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki a Iharaira: [you and all] descendants of Rua K\u0113nana, have suffered deep hurt, shame, and stigma as a result of the Maungap\u014Dhatu invasion. \u2026 The Crown unreservedly apologises to [you] the descendants \u2026 for\u2014(a) the lasting damage to the character, mana, and reputation of Rua K\u0113nana, his uri, and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki o Iharaira: (b) the deep hurt, shame, and stigma suffered by them as a result of the invasion of Maungap\u014Dhatu. \u2026 This pardon is provided to Rua K\u0113nana for the conviction [that] he sustained for moral resistance to arrest. The restoration of the character, [the] mana, and [the] reputation of [the man] \u2026, his uri, and Ng\u0101 Toenga o Ng\u0101 Tamariki o Iharaira Faith is declared.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EBut it\u2019s not the end. This is an apology\u2014let\u2019s face it\u2014and an apology doesn\u2019t cost a lot. So we\u2019ve got some work to do, in terms of working with you, to find out what else we can do\u2014because an apology is nice, but it\u2019s just a first step. So I look forward to working closely with you a lot as we decide what it is that we can add to this bill, add to the future of our relationship. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EI\u2019ve got one minute and 30 seconds left on the clock, Mr Speaker, and I think about all of those uri that aren\u2019t here, that are sitting there watching, maybe in Maungap\u014Dhatu, maybe in Waimana, maybe in Whakat\u0101ne, Rotorua, or Auckland\u2014wherever they are around the world\u2014and I figured now\u2019s a really good time to sing his song, because it\u2019s famous and if we were ever going to do it in the House, the first reading of his bill is the time to do it. So can I call on my colleagues to join me, for exactly one minute, in this song? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ERua K\u0113nana, T\u016Bhoe prophet from the Urewera\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EO Rua, Rua K\u0113nana\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ERua K\u0113nana, T\u016Bhoe prophet from the Urewera\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EO Rua, Rua K\u0113nana\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EHe told his people not to go to war\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003ELet the white man fight the white man\u2019s war\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000436\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EO Rua, Rua K\u0113nana.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000437\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EKia ora. I commend this bill to the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000438\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EBill read a first time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000439\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226590faa0-f76b-4386-84f3-9b06296cc772\u0022\u003EBill referred to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u002247776ec867e7460ea2c1c95ef3475b8e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000440\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002247776ec867e7460ea2c1c95ef3475b8e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think there\u2019s a request from down here for another song.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000441\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003EWaiata\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003EHaka\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022 data-id=\u00227f5e189e7ba4455193d47d46df175268\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000443\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227f5e189e7ba4455193d47d46df175268\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Can I, on behalf of the members of Parliament, thank our visitors for concluding a part of the day which started very well and has ended up being exceptionally special, and for sharing with us something which is, clearly, so important to our country. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000444\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003EAnd I just want to say that, on occasion, the Parliament peaks and then it sometimes changes a little, and on that note I call on Government Order of the Day No. 2!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000445\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022bbd2be9b2e3e4299a9809ef99709d810\u0022\u003EEducation (School Donations) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000446\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022cdfa2c3b21264ce9a586372d8e1ebfd7\u0022\u003EIn Committee\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000447\u0022\u003EDebate resumed from 10 September.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000448\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00223b613c5f1eaa4c30bda86fbd3d3e4a50\u0022\u003EPart 2  Consequential amendments\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002207b564c78a41444cac4643b85793afb8\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That Part 2 be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 63\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 46; New Zealand First 9; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 8.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 57\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 55; ACT New Zealand 1; Ross.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EPart 2 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000449\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a96e079e7c3748259de6a5104a3932ca\u0022\u003EClauses 1 to 3\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022 data-id=\u00222254f8c817774eefa3a1d431ac99fc60\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222254f8c817774eefa3a1d431ac99fc60\u0022\u003EDr PARMJEET PARMAR (National):\u003C/span\u003E Madam Chair?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222ee0dd57105e43679668c8f5e5f987a0\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Hon Ruth Dyson)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that clause 1 stand part. All those in favour, say\u2014oh, my apologies. Parmjeet Parmar.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022173a2917dff14d948b368420c0de061a\u0022\u003EDr PARMJEET PARMAR\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Madam Chair. I would like to take this call. First, I would like to talk about the title of this bill. The title as it stands is \u201CEducation (School Donations) Amendment Bill 2019\u201D. When this bill was introduced, it was implied that this bill was actually going to get rid of school donations. So I am going to offer some suggestions to the Minister, and it\u2019s not going to be just one suggestion; I\u2019m going to be really kind and offer two suggestions to the Minister. I believe the title of this bill should be \u201CEducation (Continuing School Donations) Amendment Bill\u201D. Why I suggest that it should be \u201CEducation (Continuing School Donations) Amendment Bill\u201D is that this bill applies to only schools that are deciles 1 to 7. It doesn\u2019t apply to schools that are from deciles 8 to 10. So, for deciles 8 to 10 schools, that trend of seeking school donations will continue.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003EThis doesn\u2019t mean that all schools, which are from deciles 1 to 7, will be opting in for this grant that the Minister wants to offer through this legislation. So that\u2019s why I strongly feel, because we don\u2019t know how many schools are going to opt in, and, clearly, schools that are deciles 8 to 10 are not going to be part of this legislation, that the title of this bill should be the \u201CEducation (Continuing School Donations) Amendment Bill\u201D. So this is option number one.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003EOption number two is it should be called the \u201CEducation (Confirming School Donations) Amendment Bill\u201D, because, what has happened in Part 1 is we saw that the Minister tabled a Supplementary Order Paper (SOP). In that SOP, clearly, the Minister is saying that there will be exemptions, that this will be for the activities for which schools can go out and seek donations. So in a way, the Minister is confirming that it\u2019s OK to go out and seek donations from parents, or caregivers, of students in their school. So the Minister has made this activity, which is currently a voluntary activity\u2014because when schools go out to solicit donations, we know that it\u2019s a voluntary thing. If parents or caregivers can afford it, they pay that, otherwise they don\u2019t have to. But by tabling that SOP, the Minister actually confirmed that it is a legitimate activity for schools to go out and seek donations. So that\u2019s why I offer this option\u2014that it should be called the \u201CEducation (Confirming School Donations) Amendment Bill\u201D, and I would say to the Minister that the Minister should not feel embarrassed taking up these options, because the title of the legislation should reflect the intention of the legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000455\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003EThe commencement: the select committee process was shortened, and I can clearly see the Minister wants to commence this Act ASAP. This is after the date of Royal assent. I have heard from schools that schools were given a date previously, which they could not meet, and now they have been given a date in the month of November to let the ministry know if they are opting in. We know that school boards meet two or three times, at the most, in a term. So some school boards might be meeting this week, or next week, so there is a lot of pressure on schools to tell the ministry if they are opting in for this option. I believe that\u2019s why the Minister is rushing to see that this is commenced ASAP.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000456\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003EBut that doesn\u2019t solve the problem. The issue here is that these schools have been given the option of opting in, and they will opt in only if they see this as going to cover for all of the money that they get through collecting donations, because I have heard from schools that even if 50 to 60 percent of parents or caregivers pay their donation, they will be better off than opting in for this legislation. So the Minister wants this to come into effect, while we know that the next term is going to start in January and February. So parents of those who wanted to pay their voluntary donation would have already paid, so it\u2019s not going to make any difference for this academic year. So this legislation, actually, for parents, is going to help from the next year, but the Minister wants to see how many schools will opt in, and that\u2019s why the Minister wants to see that it commences ASAP. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003EI believe that this is because the Minister has been already labelled for a failed education policy; that is, the fees-free tertiary education policy. The Minister is really worried that, because we are hearing from schools that are in deciles 1 to 7, they may not take up this option. So the Minister wants to be really sure, and that\u2019s why there is a lot of pressure on schools to tell the ministry if they\u2019re opting in or not. So that\u2019s why the select committee process was shortened, and the Minister wants to commence it ASAP.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003EOf course, if it has been debated in the House, it should commence ASAP, but I believe that schools should get more time, reasonable time, to consider this option if the Minister seriously wants to offer this option to schools instead of putting a deadline, now the legislation goes through in the month of\u2014hoping that the third reading will be finished in September sometime, and then the schools have to get back by November. But as I said before, we don\u2019t know when their board of trustees are meeting. If they\u2019re already meeting this week or next week, they won\u2019t have enough information to provide their real choice.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022 data-id=\u0022e2efe6c3f8b84056a47092af287b73ed\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e2efe6c3f8b84056a47092af287b73ed\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Hon Ruth Dyson)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that clause 1 stand part. All of those in favour say \u201CAye\u201D, to the contrary \u201CNo\u201D. The Ayes have it. [Interruption] Normally, we would take clauses 1, 2, and 3 together. Are you happy to do that, in the spirit of cooperation, the Hon Tim Macindoe?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228a1cb04e-8a86-44d1-9004-6e158e220339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002214fd08903d694e46b507a6b38ae7bef0\u0022\u003EHon Tim Macindoe\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m happy to do that in the spirit of cooperation with you, Madam Chair.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b11f9e25c6db47adb815df2d0f80c868\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Hon Ruth Dyson)\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you very much. Because there was a party vote called, and the member agreed we\u2019d have it, if he\u2019d like to call a party vote on clauses 1 to 3? A party vote has been called for; I will ask the Clerk to please conduct a party vote.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022cf0bb59a4b1244eca241dafadca5a9f9\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That clauses 1 to 3 be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 63\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 46; New Zealand First 9; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 8.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 57\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 55; ACT New Zealand 1; Ross.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EClauses 1 to 3 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000462\u0022\u003EHouse resumed.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000463\u0022\u003EBill reported with amendment.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000464\u0022\u003EReport adopted.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000465\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002233ce360984c94f30b2617b9cecdd81ae\u0022\u003EK\u0101inga Ora\u2014Homes and Communities Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022aab98eefa28f46e0bdbe40c827022765\u0022\u003ESecond Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u00221270bab78daf43869511e16acef0c330\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221270bab78daf43869511e16acef0c330\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Minister for Urban Development):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I move, That the K\u0101inga Ora\u2014Homes and Communities Bill be now read a second time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000468\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EK\u0101inga Ora reflects a new approach to housing and urban development, and it reflects our Government\u2019s commitment to take a hands-on approach to tackling homelessness and unaffordable housing. I want to take this opportunity to thank the Environment Committee for its work on the bill and acknowledge their quick work. I also want to thank members of the public who made written and oral submissions on the bill. The committee received 94 submissions, and those submitters represented groups and individuals with an interest in housing and urban development in local government, M\u0101ori and iwi organisations, industry groups, community housing providers, and district health boards, and advocacy groups for housing, health, and disabled people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000469\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EOf those who expressed a clear position on the bill, two-thirds of submitters supported the bill\u2019s direction. Some raised concerns about how the bill\u2019s provisions will operate in practice, and I\u2019m pleased to see that the committee has taken these issues on board and made several useful changes to the bill. Before I highlight some of those key changes that the committee\u2019s made, I want to reflect on a few of our Government\u2019s commitments in this area. Public and affordable housing are at the heart of our agenda. They are places where generations of young families can get a start in life and put down roots in their community, and that\u2019s the way it\u2019s been in this country for a long time, and we want it to continue. In this bill, we are strengthening that promise. We believe that Government should be an enabler of urban development, partnering with the private sector, with local government, and iwi, and investors, and developers, to build vibrant communities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000470\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003ERather than crowding out, or replacing the private sector, my message to developers is that we want you to grow, we want you to build more. We understand the constraints on you right now, and we want to work together to find solutions. We want to implement good urban design and develop well-connected communities with great transport connections, vibrant town centres, and the infrastructure and amenities that strong communities need. Mana whenua are at the heart of these developments, as landowners, investors, developers, builders, housing providers, and partners. The first key change the committee\u2019s made to the bill is to emphasise the importance of partnership in K\u0101inga Ora\u2019s functions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000471\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThis change reinforces that K\u0101inga Ora will need to work in genuine partnership with others to achieve its goals, and there was concern, as I said, from some submitters that K\u0101inga Ora would crowd out the private sector. The intention is the contrary. The fact is that second-generation growth in our cities, urban development projects, and brownfield and greenfield sites are often too complex for the private sector to do on their own. They require a lot of work on amalgamation of title and on the provision of network infrastructure and dealing with parks and reserves and transport networks, and often that creates too much risk and uncertainty for the private sector to do on its own. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000472\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThe intention is for K\u0101inga Ora to enable and complement, rather than compete with, the private sector, and it\u2019s set up so that it can be a joint venture vehicle for Government to work alongside large developers, iwi, and local government so that they can benefit from the streamlined powers that will follow in the second bill, while making sure that those powers are exercised appropriately and in an accountable way. K\u0101inga Ora will, obviously, need to flexible and outwardly focused, and I reiterate to the private sector organisations who submitted on this bill that we want to help you grow and do more. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000473\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EI want to comment on the operating principles contained in the bill. Some submitters were particularly interested, and although there was a high degree of support for the principles, some expressed concern that their effect was ambiguous. The committee\u2019s helpful changes clarify that the operating principles are a matter for the board to embed in the new organisation and that the board is accountable to the responsible Minister for doing so. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000474\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003ESubmitters were keen to see the operating principles encompass the importance of community engagement. Capturing local views and aspirations early in a project and ensuring that those concerns are heard and addressed will be essential, and, to address these concerns, a new operating principle has been added that requires K\u0101inga Ora to carry out early and meaningful engagement with communities that may be affected by proposed development projects. The committee has also expanded the scope of the focus on climate change in the operating principles by requiring K\u0101inga Ora to consider climate change adaptation in addition to mitigation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000475\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EI turn now to the provisions on the Government policy statement (GPS) in the bill. Anyone listening to this debate who follows transport policy will know that the transport sector is guided by a three-yearly Government policy statement. It\u2019s a statutory policy instrument that requires the Government of the day to set out a direction of its policy for the transport system, its values, and its strategies and actions, and how it will work with others, and it provides high-level policy direction for the entire transport system, including local government. We\u2019ve decided that\u2019s such a useful instrument, we\u2019ve incorporated it in this bill, so that K\u0101inga Ora will be required to set out a Government policy statement on housing and urban development, with the overall goal of providing direction and alignment amongst all the players: the community, the private sector, local government, and, of course, the many agencies of central government. The GPS will be an important tool for setting expectations and highlighting priorities for the housing and urban development sector as a whole, and I\u2019m gratified to see that submitters overwhelmingly supported its introduction. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000476\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThe committee has made a number of changes to the GPS provisions in the bill in response to submissions. These include adding a purpose clause to clarify the intent of the Government policy statement, and a requirement that it should take a multi-decade outlook. Shorter-term priorities will be included, but these will need to be tied to a long-term vision for the sector. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000477\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThe committee also added a requirement that the Government policy statement outline how the Government expects K\u0101inga Ora to contribute to climate change mitigation and adaption. This reflects the need for clear direction to the agency on such a crucial issue. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000478\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThe final change to the GPS provisions is to extend the deadline for the first GPS by a year, so that it must now be issued within two years of K\u0101inga Ora being established. I think that is a helpful and practical suggestion so that we ensure that the first Government policy statement produced by K\u0101inga Ora is sufficiently substantial in order to set the benchmark for the instrument. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000479\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EOverall, the changes recommended by the committee improve the bill and support its aims. I want to conclude by reiterating my thanks to members of the committee and to submitters for their contribution to the K\u0101inga Ora\u2014Homes and Communities Bill. The bill is stronger for their work. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000480\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EI also want to add a few comments about why the Government is establishing K\u0101inga Ora\u2013Homes and Communities. It\u2019s our view that we can achieve more faster by maximising scale and integrating the full Government build programme, and this bill will enable us to consolidate our development efforts. Be they State housing, other public housing, KiwiBuild, or market homes, we are bringing together the development capacity that currently exists within HLC\u2014the people that brought us Hobsonville Point\u2014the KiwiBuild procurement programme, and Housing New Zealand\u2019s extremely successful development operation. This will reduce complexity and simplify processes for builders and improve coordination across the programme. It almost beggars belief, but those three Government development entities have at times been, essentially, competing with each other in the development market, and that is not in the interests of the Government build programme. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000481\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EK\u0101inga Ora will also help with the Government move to long-term agreements with builders, where we contract a large number of homes a year across the full Government build programme, and members of this House will be well aware that the Government build programme is currently responsible for more homes being built by Government agencies than at any time since the mid-1970s. That is only going to increase. It will also help the Government to move to long-term agreements with builders where we contract a large number of homes a year across the full Government build programme, giving builders the certainty and the scale to reduce cost and improve productivity. On this basis, I commend this bill to the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022 data-id=\u002292cbb9731a0e486fbc9fc817f56f884b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000482\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002292cbb9731a0e486fbc9fc817f56f884b\u0022\u003ESIMON O\u2019CONNOR (National\u2014T\u0101maki):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. The motion is not agreed to, and National continues to oppose this bill. This bill glosses over one mess and is going to be an attempt, I would suggest, to create a new mess. In fact, as the Minister who resumed his seat was speaking, particularly at the end, about scale and building and addressing all the needs, I thought\u2014and maybe my mind drifted\u2014we were discussing KiwiBuild once again. But no, it\u2019s now a new bill, this one around K\u0101inga Ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000483\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EWhat was interesting\u2014and one of the reasons why we, on this side, oppose the bill\u2014is an element that the Minister barely touched on. In all around the rhetoric of what this will do and all these wonderful partnerships, no details are given, and nor is that clearly in the bill. In fact, huge responsibilities are handed over. But the Minister barely touched on the fact that Housing New Zealand is, effectively, going to be disestablished in name, along with HLC and KiwiBuild. These three substantial entities\u2014well, two of them, at least, are substantial. KiwiBuild\u2019s dead, retreated, gone. But to pull these three entities together and to rename them K\u0101inga Ora, this is really just shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic. It\u2019s in many ways, to this side of the House, just a very quick attempt to get hold of the balance sheet of Housing New Zealand and to trade off, if you will, the benefits of HLC, formerly known as the Hobsonville Land Co., or, now, Homes. Land. Community. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000484\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EOne of the great things about HLC is they\u2019re a very good performer; so much so, actually, there was I think around about 27,000 homes which National had engaged with them to start developing. There\u2019s a pipeline of work\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000485\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fd9e68dabf4e4af8b8bbc7e1d69e685e\u0022\u003EHon Andrew Little\u003C/span\u003E: It started under Labour\u2014it started under the last Government. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000486\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002273eed0b507e3453aa444597b256ed7f6\u0022\u003ESIMON O\u2019CONNOR\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, where it started is not so relevant, Mr Little. It\u2019s where the current 27,000 are\u2014where the current 27,000 are is relevant. So what we\u2019re seeing here is a grab for the money of Housing New Zealand and for the pipeline of National-driven success through HLC, and all, I would suggest\u2014all, I would suggest\u2014to cover up the glaring, horrible failure that is KiwiBuild. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000487\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003ESo come 1 October, they\u2019ll be all blended together under a nice, fresh new name, as I say: the money of Housing New Zealand, KiwiBuild to be forgotten, and the Government, all of a sudden, able to say, \u201COh, look at all this great work we have done.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000488\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EOf course, this side of the House won\u2019t forget it really isn\u2019t the Government that\u2019s done anything other than talk, but, in fact, it\u2019s the work of the HLC. That\u2019s the glossing if you will\u2014glossing over the mess.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000489\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a02c1c2aedae442580843cee1fe6424f\u0022\u003EGreg O\u2019Connor\u003C/span\u003E: This Government did nothing!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000490\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002211d2683e944e4ed1b8495e403f1d2704\u0022\u003ESIMON O\u2019CONNOR\u003C/span\u003E: And someone says, \u201CThis Government did nothing.\u201D It\u2019s probably not clear, but someone on the Government side is saying, \u201CThis Government did nothing.\u201D He\u2019s acknowledged it. It\u2019s quite stunning. I didn\u2019t realise my speech was that persuasive that a Government member is admitting that his Government\u2019s done nothing. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000491\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003ESo the first problem is they\u2019ve glossed over the mess. The second, I predict, is this bill will just create a new mess. The rhetoric we heard from Minister Twyford is exactly the same rhetoric and high-flying ideas that introduced KiwiBuild into this Parliament. He\u2019s the same Minister who looked after KiwiBuild. The very same failures and problematic thinking which led to the failure and the massive retreat of KiwiBuild, I predict, will come through here in K\u0101inga Ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000492\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EJust one small hint of it already: constituents in my fine electorate of Tamaki received, a couple of days ago, letters from Housing New Zealand advising them that Housing New Zealand would be no more, and would be replaced by K\u0101inga Ora from 1 October. Excuse the French, but that was one hell of a fright to those constituents. They\u2019re all upset, confused, and worried; trying to understand why Housing New Zealand has disappeared. It\u2019s a small thing\u2014it\u2019s a small thing, if you will. However, that letter and the way it\u2019s already been handled indicate that the people at the heart of what this bill is designed to do are being forgotten. We have many now stressed locals and constituents confused in a way I\u2019d suggest that the Government too is confused. It\u2019s already a bad start, and I\u2019d like the next member from the Government to apologise, not just for the bill but certainly to my fine constituents in Tamaki for upsetting them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022 data-id=\u0022656f7174796644999c352d3bca891689\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000493\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022656f7174796644999c352d3bca891689\u0022\u003EPAUL EAGLE (Labour\u2014Rongotai):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. It\u2019s a pleasure to be speaking on my favourite subject area, and that is, of course, housing; also just to replace Dr Duncan Webb, who\u2019s busy as the very busy chair of the Environment Committee, who I want to thank for leading this vital and critical piece of work through the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000494\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003ELook, there certainly won\u2019t be an apology. In fact, we gave them an apology because of the last nine years of neglect from that side of the House to every State housing tenant, because we said \u201CWe\u2019ve got no agenda, secret or otherwise, to sell you off.\u201D We know that the real agenda of the other team, the other side was to\u2014as they did with other Crown assets\u2014sell off the biggest balance sheet, and that is our housing stock. Thankfully the public of New Zealand saw sense and thought this is a Government that\u2019s tackling the big, long-term issues facing Aotearoa New Zealand and ensuring that everyone has a warm, dry roof over their head; that\u2019s why this is a real flagship policy of the coalition Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000495\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EI\u2019m really, really saddened to hear that they\u2019re opposing this bill. Really, what they\u2019re saying is that they are opposing a Government role in housing. We saw that by there being no housing Minister in the previous Government\u2014none, no one. There was no excuse for it. It was quite arrogant that there wasn\u2019t a Minister of Housing. On this side of the House, there is a strong housing team, and that team incorporates everything from housing itself, urban development, building and construction, and we\u2019ve got public housing recognised there too in a Cabinet role. That\u2019s a very strong team to lead this transformation and to really\u2014the tenants living in the Tamaki electorate will be very sound and proud to hear that they have a Government who is looking after them and holding their hand and saying, \u201CWe\u2019re looking after you.\u201D There\u2019s no apology needed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000496\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EThe other thing is that by opposing this they\u2019re also opposing building and construction and development. That\u2019s surprising. That won\u2019t be going down well with the development community who have been crying out for a pipeline of activity. Funnily enough, HLC that was mentioned\u2014Hobsonville Land Company, now Homes. Land. Community\u2014is, I understand, a Housing New Zealand Corporation subsidiary company. So it was fully Government-owned anyway. I think, again, there was a little bit of disingenuous behaviour there, because they were hoping to set that up and maybe to flick that off to the private\u2014always seeking to flick things off, share risks.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000497\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EWe know that by sharing risk it\u2019s been high-risk. That\u2019s why we\u2019ve had construction and development companies go under, because that side of the House shoved it all across on to them, and they went under. The market was meant to stand up and build all these houses: no more Ministry of Works, no more tradespeople working under the old Department of Housing and Construction to actually do anything. So without the workers, you\u2019ve put all the risk over there and nothing gets done. But I think that was always part of the plan.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000498\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EThis certainly isn\u2019t a shuffling of the deckchairs; absolutely not. What this is doing is taking the very best and putting our housing service delivery in one new entity. I\u2019m really proud\u2014apart from being M\u0101ori Language Week, having a M\u0101ori name for it also: K\u0101inga Ora, healthy homes, is a fantastic name. It also sends a signal to this country that we are serious about housing and that we are getting back into building homes\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000499\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220313bd3ca4b3403988212b601f9cb416\u0022\u003EKiritapu Allan\u003C/span\u003E: Doing the mahi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000500\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c7e35c1285f0466dac60ac37ce6615bb\u0022\u003EPAUL EAGLE\u003C/span\u003E: Doing the mahi\u2014doing the hard work: a hands-on approach in tackling everything from homelessness through to affordable housing. It\u2019s less about identities. On that side of the House they were more concerned about\u2014certainly, I don\u2019t know\u2014just competitive stuff to try and make these different entities compete against each other. That doesn\u2019t work. We know that\u2014we know that that doesn\u2019t work. So what we\u2019ve done here is said, \u201CNot only are we joining the very best expertise from the different entities, but we are just getting those synergies right and putting them into one entity.\u201D So I\u2019m really happy. I know staff from the three different entities. They are looking forward to coming together. There\u2019s duplication; there\u2019s overlaps. Really, what they are simply wanting to do is build homes for Kiwis. That\u2019s a simple mission that doesn\u2019t need clutter and competition; it just needs focus and the can-do attitude that I know people who work in these entities are looking for.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000501\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224d624b9e8e474b1097d6f91e2d2cddff\u0022\u003EKiritapu Allan\u003C/span\u003E: We\u2019re driving real change.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000502\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fcd1bab5e9df498a94c1a355cd6d0e49\u0022\u003EPAUL EAGLE\u003C/span\u003E: We are driving change. Look, it will take time, but what I want to say is we\u2019re taking a balanced approach, and I know that we\u2019ll also, with the strength of our Ministry of Housing and Urban Development\u2014look, I just couldn\u2019t believe that after a lengthy crisis that we had no policy arm, no research, nothing coming through to even have a conversation about what type of housing do we need? Who\u2019s doing what? There\u2019s no pipeline. There\u2019s nothing. I want to congratulate Minister Phil Twyford, who\u2019s here, on his work, because he has got the nuts and bolts sorted. Whilst that can take time, this is a great platform for moving forward and building homes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EThe other aspect of this bill is the Urban Development Authority. It\u2019s been around since\u2014look, dear I mention her\u2014the former Labour Prime Minister Helen Clark. It\u2019s been talked about; now it\u2019s a reality. On that side of the House they talked about it too. They just didn\u2019t do anything because they thought, \u201CWell, we don\u2019t actually want to do anything in housing. We want the market to fulfil it.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EI know here in Wellington that the local authorities\u2014for example, iwi are looking forward to partnering with an entity, both to share risk, but also to allow Government into their plans for building a great Wellington region. For example, there are projects ready to go. I know Ginny Andersen in Hutt South\u2014there\u2019s hundreds and hundreds of State houses that were shut, boarded up with plywood by that side of the House. We\u2019re taking the wood off the windows and ensuring that people are not only going to get homes but neighbourhoods too. That\u2019s a collaborative approach with local government, and the outcome of this entity\u2019s work will be transformational.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000505\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EI know here in Wellington City, in my humble electorate of Rongotai, that there is plenty of work coming through the Let\u2019s Get Wellington Moving project, where I\u2019m looking forward to the uplift of Adelaide Road through the best suburb in New Zealand\u2014finally a Government who\u2019s doing something. I mean, have you seen Adelaide Road? It\u2019s crying out for help, ignored by that side of the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000506\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EThis side of the House was saying, \u201CHere\u2019s a strip of land by the Basin Reserve, past McDonalds\u201D\u2014my second favourite fast food restaurant\u2014\u201Cand up there into Newtown\u201D. But that\u2019s an example already where KiwiBuild is under way. There you go, under way with a Wellington developer who\u2019s doing a fantastic job\u2014embraced, on time, on track. Once this entity\u2019s in place, you\u2019ll see the uplift not only in a physical sense of enhancing that heritage part of this great city but also the transport component that the transport Minister was talking about, and that\u2019s the difference. We will make a transformational difference. We\u2019ll look back and that side of the House, by then, will say, \u201CI only wish we did that. I only wish we did that.\u201D\u2014but they didn\u2019t. So I\u2019m looking forward to seeing the signage up saying: this is proudly co-developed by, for example, say, the Wellington City Council and the New Zealand Government\u2014that being this side of the House\u2014and the Urban Development Authority in K\u0101inga Ora\u2014Homes and Communities. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000507\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EI know that this has been decades too long in the making; it\u2019s finally here. It\u2019s the first of two bills, the powers are coming, and when they do you will see development all over Aotearoa New Zealand in ways that that side of the House will be thinking: \u201CWhy didn\u2019t we do this? Bugger, dammit.\u201D They\u2019ll be saying all sorts of expletives; we\u2019ll be celebrating on this side. I know that the Ministers of Housing, our housing team of Ministers and transport, will be there cutting ribbons, enhancing communities, and making them very, very happy. I commend this bill to the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022 data-id=\u0022722d3fa61ade47c6aa23b9937e025218\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000508\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022722d3fa61ade47c6aa23b9937e025218\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Ruth Dyson)\u003C/span\u003E: Just to remind all members that people do listen to Parliament and it\u2019s really important that the words we say are words that might be gentle on the ears\u2014some of those may not have been. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022 data-id=\u00223115195e471c4d26895d2a2f45c1aeb9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000509\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223115195e471c4d26895d2a2f45c1aeb9\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON (National\u2014Coromandel):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. I\u2019m pleased to be following that member because I do know Paul Eagle is a man that comes to this Parliament with a sense of passion and vigour\u2014but to hear him speak on this bill in such a disengaged, flat, uninteresting way is actually very sad for a man who had such potential when he came into this Parliament just two years ago. He was, originally, going to be a strong voice, but we heard nothing really but an apologetic voice\u2014for a lack of vision and a lack of action on an important area. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000510\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThis bill is essentially one that does very little apart from establish a framework for an Urban Development Authority, but it does so in a way that brings together three Crown entities\u2014one of them a busted flush\u2014the KiwiBuild unit, and then the HLC, and, of course, Housing New Zealand\u2019s entity and operations as well. We\u2019re opposing the bill on this side of the House, not because we\u2019re averse to setting up an Urban Development Authority, but because, actually, setting one up without addressing the fundamental problems that exist surrounding the Resource Management Act mean that there\u2019s little point in doing so until that process has been completed. Now, two years into this administration\u2014as they get to the point where they\u2019re entering into their last year of office\u2014nothing has happened in that area apart from talk. There actually needs to be a fundamental overhaul of the Resource Management Act and the planning rules that have developed around it that are the roadblocks that preclude the kind of development that is required to achieve the objectives that this bill seeks to achieve. That simply hasn\u2019t happened so far. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000511\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ESo just merging three entities together doesn\u2019t achieve anything of itself; it doesn\u2019t achieve the lofty goals that the Minister spoke so flatly about. In fact, the Minister came to the Chamber and really didn\u2019t show much passion or interest in the bill either. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000512\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002203fd985b-4fb8-4111-ba38-5033a254d962\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002283a116ee22754f8e82c197b90a7545f6\u0022\u003EBrett Hudson\u003C/span\u003E: Crushed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000513\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d8f01fe9161b497492e61bd9c9f012df\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON\u003C/span\u003E: Crushed, defeated, humiliated, I guess. But it\u2019s a reflection of this Government\u2014just hoping for better outcomes. Actually, just hoping for better outcomes is futile in itself, but just hoping for better outcomes has actually become a metaphor for this Government in office. The bill simply ignores the fact that the vast majority of homes built in New Zealand are built by the private sector. So we oppose this bill simply because it doesn\u2019t really achieve anything other than a hope. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022 data-id=\u00227e6b4f1348a842eeae93088949ae7965\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000514\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227e6b4f1348a842eeae93088949ae7965\u0022\u003EDr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour\u2014Christchurch Central):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker, it\u2019s a real pleasure. Very sad that the National Party doesn\u2019t support this bill, and somewhat surprised given the fact that throughout the bill it sets out the ability to partner. This is a bill which is an enabling bill; not only enabling local bodies and community organisations but, importantly, the private sector as well. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000515\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EI must say, it was great to be on the Environment Committee and sit in there and listen to the support that was given to this bill and the very thoughtful suggestions that were made in respect of it from across the board\u2014whether it be from local government or from the private sector, and, also, from a number of community organisations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000516\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EI want to specially mention the Wesley Community Action group who came along, and\u2014I must say, it was an unsophisticated but heartfelt submission; they are some of the submissions that I enjoy listening to most. I want to let them know here that by them coming and talking about the need for engagement\u2014and the fact that in their own community they didn\u2019t feel that they had been engaged in the regeneration of the Porirua area\u2014that they have had a real impact on this piece of legislation, and that the need for community engagement has been particularly recognised. So I think that\u2019s a real example of democracy and the fact that people who had never been into the precinct, had never been in to a select committee before\u2014didn\u2019t come in a polished way but came with a genuine concern. We could then have an amendment to clause 14(1) which talks, then, about community engagement and the need for it being meaningful and early\u2014so a great improvement from some great people who are doing good work in their own community. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000517\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EAnd Habitat for Humanity\u2014I also want to mention their submission\u2014who came along and, again, gave some real suggestions about making sure that we capture all of the possibilities for assisting in the housing debacle that this Government has inherited through nine years of sitting around and building no houses. So what we have is, in respect of Habitat for Humanity, an explicit recognition of not only getting people into homes but explicit recognition that that might be through co-ownership, shared equity, and any other kind of scheme.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000518\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003ESo that\u2019s what I mean when I say that this is enabling legislation. It\u2019s not, simply, setting out some single structure or track but it\u2019s saying, \u201CHere we have an organisation which has a brief\u2014a brief to give assistance, to give direction, to enter into partnerships, and to facilitate partnerships.\u201D And in doing that there aren\u2019t a lot more constraints around it. So we know that there\u2019s going to be more legislation to come, which will have some significant powers and some significant operational matters. But what we have here is a really good structure; a structure which will see this Government continue to address the issue of housing and communities\u2014and the two can\u2019t be separated. That\u2019s the other important thing about this piece of legislation: it isn\u2019t just about houses; it\u2019s about the communities themselves. And I think sometimes we forget that if we\u2019re going to have people in genuine homes, then we have to look after the people and the communities around them. So we\u2019ll now be able to not just simply say \u201CLet\u2019s build a house.\u201D, but to say \u201CLet\u2019s build a community, including the infrastructure, the parks, dealing with the reserves issues, the drainage, and all of those wider issues, so that we\u2019ve got a proper, comprehensive, joined-up plan.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000519\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003ESo it\u2019s a really fantastic initiative by the Minister; a fantastic Minister. The complaint time and again\u2014and I can understand it over the last nine years\u2014is that business and industry don\u2019t know what\u2019s coming next. This Government is absolutely committed to giving long-term certainty so that businesses can plan ahead. And this is just one example of that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000520\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EOnly the other day, we were debating the New Zealand Infrastructure Commission/Te Waihanga Bill\u2014another example of the Government taking a long-term approach and giving certainty to many sectors so that we can say \u201CLook, here\u2019s what\u2019s coming; here is the Government\u2019s view of what development should look like.\u201D; whether that be infrastructure, rail transport, or in this case, homes and communities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000521\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003ESo I\u2019m very pleased to be able to bring this report back to the House and identify that we will now have a great planning framework so that builders, developers, and property owners out there will be able to make their plans knowing exactly what is needed and exactly where it\u2019s going to be going.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000522\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EI also just want to mention\u2014because I think it\u2019s important, especially this week\u2014the considerable debate we had over Te Tiriti clauses. The fact is that this bill, really, puts M\u0101ori interests front and centre in a number of ways. Clause 4 of the bill, essentially, summarises that. In particular, and this is worth noting, section 11(1)(b) sets out that K\u012Bnga Ora has to have the capability and capacity \u201C(i) to uphold the Treaty of Waitangi (Te Tiriti \u2026) and its principles;\u201D. That\u2019s actually quite important, because, whilst in many operational pieces of legislation the principles of the Treaty are referred to, here we\u2019ve got a statement of upholding the Treaty of Waitangi. That, I think, for New Zealand is a step forward to say \u201CWell, we\u2019ve taken account of the Treaty through its principles, now we\u2019re going to look at the Treaty itself.\u201D So I want to recognise that and recognise the hard work that was done around that by our officials in Parliamentary Counsel. Even though it wasn\u2019t actually changed, I just wanted to identify the significance of that in the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000523\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EAnd, of course, we know that, in terms of housing, our M\u0101ori communities are the communities that are the least well-off, the least likely to own their own home, the most likely to be paying a large portion of their income in rent, and, sadly, the most likely to have precarious housing or no housing at all. Again, it is identified here that one of the functions is to support and enable the aspirations of M\u0101ori in relation to urban development. It\u2019s really important to recognise that this isn\u2019t about home ownership alone; this is about creating homes for people to live in, in the way which is best for them given their life circumstances and given the time where they are in their lives\u2014whether that be in a rental or in some other shared accommodation arrangement, which we haven\u2019t really discussed but we absolutely need to explore, or whether it be through home ownership of one kind or another.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000524\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EAlso recognising the empowerment and the recognition that K\u0101inga Ora will be able to partner with others, including local bodies. So in clause 13, the \u201CFunctions of K\u0101inga Ora\u201D, there were some changes made in there just to expand on the ability of K\u0101inga Ora to enter into those relationships, including entering into financing relationships\u2014for example, with local authorities, which we know happens on occasion already, and other entities. \u201COther entities\u201D is a broad brush indeed; whether it be a commercial provider who wants to get into the social housing area or even, conceivably, other housing, or simply a commercial development that needs some additional assistance. Well, if they\u2019re providing houses for New Zealand, I\u2019m sure the Minister would listen carefully to them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000525\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003ESo financing is one of the things, but also partnerships. It\u2019s important to recognise the, again, vast and undefined array of partnerships that we could have here. A fantastic idea that ownership across the board, whether it be public-private, public-community, whatever it might be\u2014it\u2019s all here. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000526\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003ESo this is yet again a fantastic example of the Government taking one of those truly tough problems, getting it, and getting on and solving the problem; not solving it for the next election, because we know there\u2019s still going to be need for houses in a year\u2019s time, but solving it for three, 10, and 30 years. It is a framework where we can get on and put people in homes\u2014homes that are right for them, homes that are good for New Zealanders, and I am very proud to commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229884e8e8-651f-4f48-a429-70b72d5e2821\u0022 data-id=\u002280d78827b8f84ed496791bfe4939765b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000527\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229884e8e8-651f-4f48-a429-70b72d5e2821\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002280d78827b8f84ed496791bfe4939765b\u0022\u003ESARAH DOWIE (National\u2014Invercargill):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you very much, Madam Speaker, and I rise to take a short call\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000528\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d9cceaa205334c9ea8294e1f88f21e9c\u0022\u003EKiritapu Allan\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, Sarah will be in favour of this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000529\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229884e8e8-651f-4f48-a429-70b72d5e2821\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ae0d207d3ef24f0bb55a653c46552395\u0022\u003ESARAH DOWIE\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014on this bill in opposition. I take a short call because I am mindful that the whip is dutifully whipping and also because this bill simply doesn\u2019t warrant filibustering or any great discussion, the reason being because it is a shell of a bill and it is a waste of time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000530\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229884e8e8-651f-4f48-a429-70b72d5e2821\u0022\u003EBut the one thing that I will say\u2014the one positive thing that I will say\u2014is that it is a pleasure to follow after Mr Duncan Webb, who has recently acquired the chairmanship of the Environment Committee and he has been a very good chair, of course. But I will pull him up on a couple of things in his contribution. The first thing he said was that the submitters were not polished. Well, I disagree. I think that the submitters were very, very passionate about providing houses for those in need and providing affordable housing. But the one thing that I noticed about the submitters was that their submissions actually went wider than the brief of the bill, because they were so passionate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000531\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229884e8e8-651f-4f48-a429-70b72d5e2821\u0022\u003EAnd therein lies the problem, because this bill is merely shifting the deckchairs on the Titanic. It is simply about merging Housing New Zealand, HLC, and the failed KiwiBuild\u2014the gift that kept on giving to us, of course\u2014into one without a proper structure around it, without delving into the nitty-gritty about how this Government is going to provide affordable houses for those in need. I mean, this is a product of this Government: very good at the high level, very good at the expectations, very good at manoeuvring around targets and then dropping them altogether. It\u2019s all very well to talk about Government policy statements but there was never any effort\u2014and there still is no effort in this\u2014to drill down to the nitty-gritty about how the provision of houses is going to work. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000532\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229884e8e8-651f-4f48-a429-70b72d5e2821\u0022\u003ENow, there is mention of a sister bill, a follow-up bill, as to how that will be brought about, but again we have seen one effort in KiwiBuild fail\u2014the goal was 10,000 houses within 10 years; admitted by the Government that that was overly ambitious\u2014and we come back to the problem, which is the Resource Management Act. There is a failure by that Government to admit that it needs some real work. Again, we\u2019ve got a working group that\u2019s going to look at it but no real, clear detail about how that Government will fix it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000533\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229884e8e8-651f-4f48-a429-70b72d5e2821\u0022\u003EThere are housing issues across this country now and it is because councils have failed to look strategically at land, to rezone, and then provide incentives for developers\u2014developers who know how to provide housing properly and at low cost\u2014to go in and build houses and provide more choice for people on the ground. And of course more houses means the prices are forced down and it is more of a competitive market.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000534\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229884e8e8-651f-4f48-a429-70b72d5e2821\u0022\u003EI am getting the nod from \u201CMr Whip\u201D and I have been told to finish up and sit down. But all I can say is that this bill is woeful. It is woeful. We need action and we\u2019re not getting it and hence I oppose this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022 data-id=\u00224245998679d94d17aca01c568e1695bc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000535\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224245998679d94d17aca01c568e1695bc\u0022\u003EMARAMA DAVIDSON (Co-Leader\u2014Green):\u003C/span\u003E Well, I\u2019m going to try and avert my eyes from being whipped! I\u2019ve got 10 minutes. I\u2019m pleased to even hear the Opposition\u2014although, I don\u2019t know; have we managed to bring them to actually use the words \u201Chousing crisis\u201D yet? They didn\u2019t last term. I think they\u2019re saying \u201Cissues\u201D. We got them to \u201Cissues\u201D. I\u2019m pleased to hear at least some collective acknowledgment across the House of the mass, profound problem and crisis that we are facing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000536\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f912483fd718400dab5f042579b4c99a\u0022\u003EAngie Warren-Clark\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s right.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000537\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b0b8d62dd6c647839364c674625f79a6\u0022\u003EMARAMA DAVIDSON\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah. Well, we haven\u2019t quite got to \u201Ccrisis\u201D for all of us in this House, but we\u2019ll get there. Yeah, we\u2019ll get there\u2014\u201Cissues\u201D is a step. It is dire and profound and we need to do all we can. It is wicked, it is dynamic, and we need to do all we can to try and fix this. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000538\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EThis, the K\u0101inga Ora\u2014Homes and Communities Bill, is working to mainstream, to pull together, the development capacity of Government and to work in partnership to try and have a coordinated and streamlined approach, to be able to have an overview of where we need to be building, how, what kind of homes and communities, how we will do it with the community\u2014that\u2019s key; that\u2019s absolutely key\u2014and a range of issues.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000539\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ELet me just begin by acknowledging very briefly what the bill is trying to do. As I said, it pulls together urban development authority into a work stream. In effect, it is setting up the housing and urban development agency, pulling together Housing New Zealand, HLC, and most of the KiwiBuild unit, as I said, to try and get this overview and coordinated strategic approach.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo it\u2019s clear we need to do things differently, and we absolutely need to set some certainty and sense of security for community, for community housing providers, for iwi housing providers, for the construction industry, and for contractors\u2014industry-wide, actually. We need to set this security and certainty and also be clear with just ordinary folk, actually, that we\u2019re on this, that we admit and acknowledge that this is a huge issue\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000541\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022695677bcf0ab4af7a38c4a2e643a4cd5\u0022\u003EKiritapu Allan\u003C/span\u003E: Hear, hear!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000542\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cb9fa049554b487d896cbfa30c90bb79\u0022\u003EMARAMA DAVIDSON\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014and we are\u2014ha, ha! The member Kiritapu Allan is motivating me to no end! It\u2019s fabulous\u2014it\u2019s fabulous. A few of us did not see the House for only a few hours between last night and this morning.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000543\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo, the challenges: industry capacity and certainty, climate change, environmental degradation. How do we build in a way that maximises how we want to protect our environment but also understands that we\u2019ve got to build more and we have got to do it in a way that is sustainable? We are facing challenges of affordability not just of homes\u2014whether it\u2019s mortgages, whether it\u2019s buying a home or renting a home\u2014but also the affordability of the types of homes our people live in and whether they can afford to heat them or maintain them or stay healthy in them. We are facing challenges of security of tenure, and that is not just if people are renting or leasing; that is also people who are on precarious employment conditions and salaries and/or wages and incomes, including benefit incomes, who are not sure for how long they are going to afford living in their homes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EWe have challenges of social licence, where any developments that we face come under, as they should, scrutiny from communities, and we are looking for a way to have those conversations so that two, three, five years into the plans, we don\u2019t come across some blocks\u2014that we have cleared the way with our communities, with our ordinary folk, to get a sense of taking us all together in building more homes. We have got the challenge of health, of homes not being up to scratch today to be able to keep kids out of hospital, to be able to keep our elderly safe and well. We are facing the challenge of accessible homes, so that we universally can access our homes and they are appropriate\u2014we can get into the bathroom and the shower, depending on what level of mobility we have\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000545\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e60c1237-5e2d-4d0a-9678-ab10db67d1b7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f48153f132f54e4789fd5e3478accd3a\u0022\u003EAngie Warren-Clark\u003C/span\u003E: What age we are.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000546\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002273935efcda6f4d3e906f806446924b3f\u0022\u003EMARAMA DAVIDSON\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014or whether we\u2014absolutely\u2014can move between levels in multilevel homes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000547\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EWe are facing the challenge of being able to appropriately respond to diverse needs. That includes multigenerational\u2014I\u2019ve got four generations in my whare at the moment. We are facing the challenge of multigenerational and diverse needs, and the responses and the types of homes\u2014well, not just the types of homes; the types of communities that we are needing to think about with a modern, future type of joined-up thinking to be able to set this country on the right path. We have not been on the right path yet. We have plonked buildings on pieces of land ad hoc. That\u2019s as far as the strategic planning went: let\u2019s plonk a house there, let\u2019s plonk a house there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000548\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EWe need to connect our communities with linked-up, affordable, efficient public transport routes. We need to, and this is why the bill addresses it, make sure we are building with social licence\u2014building with social licence. I see the select committee wanted to make explicit the community engagement mention\u2014that\u2019s great. Social licence includes M\u0101ori interests and the Treaty of Waitangi being upheld. When we work with communities, including with M\u0101ori, the results are fantastic, and this Government understands that there\u2014oh, look, I\u2019ve done well\u2014are actually groups who have been doing this well, who have been able to build affordable, healthy, well-designed homes and communities, and we recognise that we can work with their expertise and their experience. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000549\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EWe need to understand that part of the construction industry and building industry barriers were about building the wrong sizes and types of homes, and so that\u2019s why Government has to take a role, because the Government will be able to lead\u2014with community providers, with not-for-profits\u2014to build those right types and sizes of homes that the market simply wasn\u2019t able to. That\u2019s where we ran into some trouble, as well: contractors were undercutting themselves and ended up flourishing quite a bit from that. That\u2019s why a Government-backed\u2014well, what is that? That\u2019s where a public-good focus has to come in, and that\u2019s how we will get the ball rolling to provide the right sized homes and the right designed communities. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000550\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo the Greens support this, and we look forward to continuing to contribute the principles, the criteria, the guidelines that we all need so that we don\u2019t have to face this in another, what, 30, 40 years and go, \u201CWhoops, we weren\u2019t thinking long enough. We weren\u2019t thinking far out enough.\u201D So the Greens absolutely look forward to\u2014and continuing to work with our Ministers across the House to help give us the most enduring and sustainable plans that we can come up with. Thank you. I got there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022 data-id=\u00229c62885f65c1406685e88ce7ced9cb66\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000551\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229c62885f65c1406685e88ce7ced9cb66\u0022\u003EERICA STANFORD (National\u2014East Coast Bays):\u003C/span\u003E [Clears throat] Excuse me; I haven\u2019t spoken for a while. Thank you, Madam Speaker. I\u2019m pleased to take a relatively short call on the K\u0101inga Ora\u2014Homes and Communities Bill. The previous speaker, Marama Davidson, was a really good example of why MPs need a decent sleep and not to finish at 1 o\u2019clock in the morning. The first point she made was that all we need to do on this side of the House is admit there\u2019s been a crisis and that\u2019ll fix everything\u2014because that\u2019s what this Government tends to think, is that as long as we admit there\u2019s a crisis, that\u2019s doing something about it. Well, where did that get us, admitting that there was a crisis, with this Government? It got us KiwiBuild: the biggest failure of public policy in the history of New Zealand, most likely. That\u2019s what happens when we get words like \u201Ccrisis\u201D out of this Government. Admitting that there is a problem isn\u2019t a fix of a problem, and we get ridiculous ploys like KiwiBuild. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000552\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003ENow we get this bill, which is just, as two previous speakers have said\u2014and I\u2019ll say it again, because it gets a good rise out of the other side of the House\u2014rearranging the deck chairs, because all we have is a bill that is very, very light on detail, and some of the submitters that we had in committee made that point. So all we can do is, really, speak quite broadly rather than in great detail, because there is really a lack of detail. The bill seeks to establish K\u0101inga Ora as a Crown public-housing landlord to lead and coordinate housing and urban\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022 data-id=\u0022c68c40093ba84d35b1776743dbfb07ee\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000553\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c68c40093ba84d35b1776743dbfb07ee\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Ruth Dyson)\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m very sorry to interrupt the member, but this debate is interrupted and is set down for resumption next sitting day. The House stands adjourned until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 17 September 2019. Have a good four days away. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000554\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003EDebate interrupted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id201909128d26258a6a7c42b4a85193d8342f1400000555\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002275a05f96-2474-4c90-a6ea-cf7b5798e03e\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 6 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"