"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00225c5a202e639c468f905e592d0c02dc4a\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 7 APRIL 2022\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d11d3016ba00493d83e8122237e6e7f2\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 7 APRIL 2022\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000002\u0022\u003EThe Deputy Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000004\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022faacd5202bf74e86a757dc6be0e2fa4f\u0022\u003EKarakia/Prayers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022313d99495cc642c98dda5c2fe42a9b2d\u0022\u003EKarakia/Prayers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022917bb38c01e7412d9783b5d1742d9b64\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022917bb38c01e7412d9783b5d1742d9b64\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: E te Atua kaha rawa, ka tuku whakamoemiti atu m\u0101tou, m\u014D ng\u0101 karakia kua waihotia mai ki runga i a m\u0101tou. Ka waiho i \u014D m\u0101tou p\u0101nga whaiaro katoa ki te taha. Ka mihi m\u0101tou ki te Ku\u012Bni, me te inoi atu m\u014D te \u0101rahitanga i roto i \u014D m\u0101tou whakaaroarohanga, kia m\u014Dhio ai, kia whakaiti ai t\u0101 m\u0101tou whakahaere i ng\u0101 take o te Whare nei, m\u014D te oranga, te maung\u0101rongo, me te aroha o Aotearoa. \u0100mene.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen, and pray for guidance in our deliberations, that we may conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom and humility, for the welfare, peace, and compassion of New Zealand. Amen.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002230115508f8b444fea8ebce5a026feadb\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002256bf05fc7e2248fc9d32f55f5f10942f\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022823ceb9ecef44a268221f905e7913e33\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022823ceb9ecef44a268221f905e7913e33\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Next week, the committee stage of the Appropriation (2020/21 Confirmation and Validation) Bill, or the annual review debate, will begin. Ministers covering 14 different portfolios will participate that week. Other legislation to be considered will be the remaining stages of the COVID-19 Response (Courts Safety) Legislation Bill, and the third reading of the Protected Disclosures (Protection of Whistleblowers) Bill. On Wednesday, a two-hour debate on the report of the Finance and Expenditure Committee on the long-term fiscal position will replace the general debate, and, on Thursday, the House will consider another motion to approve COVID-19 orders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u0022712a6a24fda2421293bbd84fa4aa671c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022712a6a24fda2421293bbd84fa4aa671c\u0022\u003ECHRIS BISHOP (National):\u003C/span\u003E I thank the Leader of the House for that update. I wonder if he could advise on when item No. 24 on the Order Paper, the Kermadec Ocean Sanctuary Bill, which is now approaching its sixth anniversary of being on the Order Paper, will see some progress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u002219e96ba6b3ec4f869262ab29c2e32a5a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002219e96ba6b3ec4f869262ab29c2e32a5a\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Of course, it may have seen speedier progress if the last Government had not botched the process in the first place so badly. But in the fullness of time, at the appropriate moment, I\u2019m sure that the House will turn its attention to that again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022 data-id=\u00221a105f99400e49bebeb1fe96ec9a8110\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227c215736-b512-41de-8f0c-6c5543fcfce7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221a105f99400e49bebeb1fe96ec9a8110\u0022\u003EHon JAMES SHAW (Co-Leader\u2014Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I wonder if the Government\u2019s had time to ruminate on the Organic Products Bill, a sufficiently low item No. 19 on the Order Paper, given that it was presented to the House in March 2021?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u00229d3910318bb14d9f8e7acca6c5cd3ac8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229d3910318bb14d9f8e7acca6c5cd3ac8\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E I can confirm that the organics bill does still remain on the Government\u2019s work programme, and we are intending to make further progress on it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00226829b5c0c4a6439aa98ab3dea774922d\u0022\u003EPETITIONS, PAPERS, SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS, AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLS\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f5516a8ba82346dea2595110cfd52ac9\u0022\u003EPETITIONS, PAPERS, SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS, AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLS\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022e4d623ab56d7454986bfc3bc099deb66\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e4d623ab56d7454986bfc3bc099deb66\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No bills have been introduced. Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022\u0022 data-id=\u0022a74cf70ee70748a49336d4b390335315\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a74cf70ee70748a49336d4b390335315\u0022\u003ECLERK\u003C/span\u003E:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EPetition of Malcolm Richards, requesting that the House ban the use of Electroconvulsive Therapy (ECT) in New Zealand\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Epetition of Andrea Menzies, requesting that the House remove GST from all essential food items and hygiene products but leave GST on non-essential \u201Cjunk food\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u00222422f2a120f5458f84e1de6af6f2d320\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222422f2a120f5458f84e1de6af6f2d320\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Those petitions stand referred to the Petitions Committee. Ministers have delivered papers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022\u0022 data-id=\u0022b7a00103f06b4b199f94d6e698758f7d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b7a00103f06b4b199f94d6e698758f7d\u0022\u003ECLERK\u003C/span\u003E: Government responses to the reports of the Health Committee on the petition of Sarah Teare and the petition of Denise Astill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022d0554e8364de454b86731828de888463\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d0554e8364de454b86731828de888463\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Those papers are published under the authority of the House. A select committee report has been delivered for presentation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022\u0022 data-id=\u0022003a6420294a49d1851fe500aca77aa0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022003a6420294a49d1851fe500aca77aa0\u0022\u003ECLERK\u003C/span\u003E: Report of the Finance and Expenditure Committee on the Statement on the Long-term Fiscal Position, the Long-term Insights Briefing, report of the Controller and Auditor-General, commentary on He Tirihanga Mokopuna 2021.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u002210386516fa7e410d9cf32ce77a000bf2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002210386516fa7e410d9cf32ce77a000bf2\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The report is set down for consideration.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022fd81ea960a264ec696592328901001b3\u0022\u003EOral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a02dc2ff74ab41b38e4766e453a49d52\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d84dff8e782c437a88dac0f481bd9ed5\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 1\u2014Education\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225cf229a9-8722-46b2-a37e-b528e075be7d\u0022 data-id=\u00228e5f97762dd949ff8587808e605ab6d3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225cf229a9-8722-46b2-a37e-b528e075be7d\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228e5f97762dd949ff8587808e605ab6d3\u0022\u003EANGELA ROBERTS (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Education: What is the Government doing to encourage healthy drinks in schools?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022743b5d8ebd4146f9807a28df3853c835\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022743b5d8ebd4146f9807a28df3853c835\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS (Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E This morning, I announced that we\u2019re beginning public consultation on a proposal for primary schools to only offer healthy drinks. We know that, if kids eat and drink well, there are a myriad of benefits and good outcomes for learning. While some schools have already seen these results and chosen to put their own healthy drinks policies in place, we want to hear what people think about whether we can replicate those benefits across all primary schools and all young people, parents, and teachers. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225cf229a9-8722-46b2-a37e-b528e075be7d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b114d9cc25b84c789010a4e36cbaaffa\u0022\u003EAngela Roberts\u003C/span\u003E: Why does the Minister consider a greater emphasis on healthy drinks in schools to be important at this time?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222eb4702656fa45b5b3d2777fcfb63539\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: Research shows us that dental decay is now the most common disease reported amongst children in New Zealand, and rates of obesity amongst CHILDREN have increased significantly between September 2020 and August 2021. Further, sugar-sweetened beverages account for more than a quarter of a child\u2019s sugar intake here in New Zealand. That\u2019s why we want to ask what people think about all primary schools offering only healthy drinks\u2014healthy drinks being defined as \u201Cwater, milk, and non-dairy milk alternatives\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225cf229a9-8722-46b2-a37e-b528e075be7d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022068f3488faa44a9a8ffda11538e2b6a1\u0022\u003EAngela Roberts\u003C/span\u003E: What is his approach to healthy drinks in secondary schools?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022484862fbe3c9459d903b42eb7b9aee59\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS HIPKINS\u003C/span\u003E: The initial proposal\u2014the one that we\u2019re consulting on\u2014is for healthy drinks in primary schools. Evidence shows that the earlier in a child\u2019s development that healthy habits can be encouraged, the better. However, the Government is also considering whether a similar policy could be considered in the future in secondary schools, and we want to get feedback on that as well, including from schools and communities, about what barriers might exist to implementing such a policy. The consultation\u2019s being run by the Ministry of Education; it is open for eight weeks up until 2 June.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002209dfe3bc21584828b5227debd6f57d3d\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 2\u2014Social Development and Employment\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022 data-id=\u0022813acb55540f459f8764e259c9210a86\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022813acb55540f459f8764e259c9210a86\u0022\u003EDEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader\u2014Te Paati M\u0101ori) (remote)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Social Development and Employment: Does she agree with the Child Poverty Action Group, who said in October 2021, \u201Cin the face of abundant evidence that the stop-gap measures initiated in the first 2020 lockdown for low-income families were nowhere near enough, this year, unbelievably, the Government has done even less\u201D; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022 data-id=\u0022bfdefa5e6d874c4aa83c027c21adc33c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bfdefa5e6d874c4aa83c027c21adc33c\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI (Minister for Social Development and Employment):\u003C/span\u003E No, I don\u2019t agree with the statement. This Government has made once-in-a-generation increases to incomes for those on a benefit and is continuing to lift incomes for New Zealand families. Our 1 April changes benefited over 1.4 million New Zealanders. However, supporting low-income families is about more than just income support, which is why the Government has a wide range of initiatives that will benefit families, including building more social housing, free doctors\u2019 visits, lunches in schools, and free period products. On top of that, as part of our COVID response, we have set up our care in the community model in order to effectively meet the needs of people and wh\u0101nau while in self-isolation. This is a Government that has successfully supported New Zealand families through a global pandemic, with measures like the wage subsidy, main benefit increases, and lifting the minimum wage. But, as I\u2019ve always said, we recognise we have more to do.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226e83a0a8d5b14f4290ac59bb2a45e1fb\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: What is she doing to ensure food security for wh\u0101nau as we come into winter, given that vegetable prices increased 19 percent in the year to September 2021 and food box usage more than doubled, and that we know the situation will now be much worse with even higher inflation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a1a06a88b90e4454b8d029d5f1cd2e8d\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI\u003C/span\u003E: The support for food security in New Zealand stretches back before we experienced the inflationary increases that we\u2019re experiencing at the moment. I think back to Budget 2020, when we put $32 million towards our food secure network, the first time that there\u2019d been that level of investment. And, with regard to supporting families to be able to self-isolate safely, we\u2019ve also invested millions of dollars into our care in communities programme across the country. If we look at our food security budget, of the about $30.1 million in total funding, that\u2019s only a portion of the care in community funding. But food security is front of mind for us, and we\u2019ve absolutely acted in a myriad of ways over the course of our time in Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002268c7902c14324bf7a8c34199b0ceee56\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: Does she stand by the Government\u2019s decision last year to not bring in further lockdown-related benefit increases or double the winter energy payment, and will she take a different approach this year and at least double the winter energy payment?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d14237513b448a7aab8d3210068165c\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI\u003C/span\u003E: The benefit increases that we have seen are a once-in-a-generation increase. They reverse the cuts that were made back in 1991. They do respond to the Welfare Expert Advisory Group\u2019s recommendations with regard to increases to benefits. I do recognise that it was two years on, but we went above and beyond for families that have children. On top of that, we didn\u2019t just increase benefits. On 1 April, that member would have seen that we increased the family tax credit, we increased the minimum wage to $21.20, and, on top of that, we see a reasonably significant increase for superannuitants as well. These are the families that needed to have targeted assistance during this time. And so, yes, we stand by our decisions as a Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002227ef0593d5cb4541951f4193482df9b7\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: Will she ensure that all low-income wh\u0101nau are eligible for Working for Families payments, and, if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022268425c280b145e59f6375dfbe631a1b\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI\u003C/span\u003E: There\u2019s criteria in place with regard to Working for Families. I do encourage all wh\u0101nau to check that they are accessing what they are eligible for with regard to Working for Families, but also, with respect to supplementary supports through the Ministry of Social Development, I\u2019m always concerned that there\u2019s, potentially, families out there that are not accessing supports like accommodation supplement or child-care assistance. We do have an eligibility calculator on the website now so wh\u0101nau can check for themselves what they might be eligible for. We want to support any wh\u0101nau that is experiencing hardship at this time. With regard to further changes to Working for Families, we have said publicly there is a review of Working for Families under way, but that didn\u2019t stop us from increasing the family tax credits on 1 April.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221c98652e441d4034a5a704379630741b\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: Does she accept the statement of Dr Renee Liang that \u201CThe populations most affected by COVID and most likely to die from it are those living under socio-economic strain and indigenous populations.\u201D and, therefore, agree that means Government has a responsibility to urgently lift incomes and reduce costs for low-income wh\u0101nau such as through benefit increases, tax relief, and much quicker increases in the minimum wage?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a7ca7b9e199a42b9ac881194548b615e\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: In so far as the Minister has responsibility for that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022389ef76021154c51877940d2518471bc\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI\u003C/span\u003E: That was a very long quote. For the main part, yes, I do agree. We do recognise that low socio-economic wh\u0101nau often have that intersection with regard to a range of other population groups, which means that often they are more at risk with regard to things like COVID. With respect to the actual initiatives that have been mentioned, we have done many of those things, if not all of them. We have lifted incomes for beneficiaries; also, for low-income workers, with respect to the minimum wage; also, put more money into the pockets of students and superannuitants, and those are the targeted groups I believe that member was referring to, and they have absolutely been front of mind for us alongside\u2014can I just add, disabled people here in New Zealand. They have been absolutely front of mind for us with regard to every action we have taken in response to the pandemic.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a1e4930ad04c4dc5a166529521e45f1d\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 3\u2014Prime Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022 data-id=\u00220e2e1c7c080e4e34a422e9e6c443bafe\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220e2e1c7c080e4e34a422e9e6c443bafe\u0022\u003ENICOLA WILLIS (Deputy Leader\u2014National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Does she have confidence in all of her Ministers?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022 data-id=\u002221ce8bc6c2204b7f9f8c6e5ed961759d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002221ce8bc6c2204b7f9f8c6e5ed961759d\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Deputy Prime Minister) \u003C/span\u003Eon behalf of the Prime Minister: Yes. In particular, I have confidence in Ministers who have helped deliver 3.2 percent unemployment, more than 5 percent annual average economic growth, a reduction in the indicators of child poverty across the board, and a world-leading COVID-19 response\u2014to name a few. I also have confidence in Ministers who have prioritised the safety of our communities by significantly increasing police funding by $450 million since we took office. I stand by Ministers who are supporting the police to deploy 700 more organised crime staff to bust gangs. I\u2019ve got confidence in Ministers who are progressing legislation through this House that will give police more tools to address gang violence. And, finally, I have confidence in Ministers who\u2019ve understood and prioritised the need for more police, which is why we have put 1,400 more cops on the front line.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224a7d3f3302df4824aeb978b9c7b2874d\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Was it acceptable for the police Minister to dismiss media questions about a blowout in police response times saying, \u201CI\u2019m not kind of prepared to step into that.\u201D and \u201CI\u2019m not over the detail of that.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c6318af8d97c4b838798676366775708\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, in the 13 years that I have been in the House, I have heard each and every police Minister refer to matters as being operational matters. What I haven\u2019t been able to hear, until recently, is the $450 million extra that this Government has put into the police, the 1,400 front-line cops that this Government is supporting the police with. That\u2019s the difference.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225ab72c2071c9433ea49df1f27bb826d8\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Is it the Prime Minister\u2019s position that the Minister of Police should take no interest in police operational matters relating to how long it takes for a New Zealander to get a police officer to come and see them when they report a crime?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dc4f9158bd054162b8a23b81e6767eec\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: The Minister of Police has the job of overseeing the police portfolio, which means making sure they have the resources they need to do the job. So, rather than the last National Government, who froze police funding, the police Minister\u2019s overseeing a $450 million increase in that. We\u2019ve got 1,400 more cops on the front line. The police Minister has the confidence of the Prime Minister because she is overseeing record levels of investment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e3d2a32880304d87902655679772b4d5\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: So is it the Prime Minister\u2019s position that all the Minister of Police needs to do is sign off on the funding and the press releases and take no interest in the results that are delivered?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022861662ed275748c69a6cf3d8065a3d70\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: No, the Minister of Police takes a great deal of interest in the results that are delivered. For example, the results that have been delivered by Operation Bloodhound, which was announced today, with more than 30 people arrested associated with gangs in the eastern district, 30 firearms being taken out of the hands of gang members and associates, and large amounts of cash being seized, with approximately $100,000 taken from a gang headquarters in Napier. That\u2019s something that the Minister of Police is taking a significant interest in.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022af27f021ffb44ba4b014c83dea52f748\u0022\u003EHon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Has she seen any reports suggesting that one in eight of New Zealand\u2019s police was involved in protecting New Zealand Parliament, and has she seen any further criticism that, in fact, more police should have been involved earlier on in that operation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a38ed5ff101f4270af5d6c356780a11e\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: I think all members of the House would be grateful for the role that the New Zealand Police have played throughout the time of COVID-19, and particularly in protecting this building here and the people who work around it. We should be grateful for the role that New Zealand Police are playing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c5c1399dd5547b49b73ec5d60e95043\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Prime Minister aware that the average response time for police has more than doubled, and is it seriously her position that this is not a matter the police Minister should take an interest in?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228ecd2631fcda44978635ce6b466235d5\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: As I said, in answer to earlier questions, the police Minister takes her role seriously in making sure that the police have the resources that they need to be able to support and protect New Zealanders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002217cd003b41e14414907d05f2b8da0c8a\u0022\u003EHon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Has the Prime Minister seen reports that the numbers just referred to in the question that she has just answered were taken in the context of a significant COVID-19 outbreak while a number of police\u2014up to one in eight of our police\u2014were involved in protecting New Zealand\u2019s Parliament?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227da2e169e1124ffe9ab8739c43c6c84a\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: The police force in New Zealand have played a significant role in protecting New Zealanders through COVID-19\u2014that has included not only work at managed isolation and quarantine but also work around borders and also work around this building here. The New Zealand Police Force have had a very difficult job to do through a very stressful time of COVID-19, and we should all be grateful to them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221898bd1c8e3749809ce5215a5b834b49\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Does it concern the Prime Minister that the Leader of the House was able to provide more detail about police response times than the Minister of Police, and is this the standard that this Prime Minister is prepared to accept?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea9afbf0cc8248c1b857c2d627ace377\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, what concerns me is that a National Party who froze police funding, who did not provide police with the resources that they need, can stand up here, in this House today, and lecture this Government. This Government is proud of the fact that we\u2019ve invested for 1,400 more cops to be on the front line, 700 cops dedicated to organised crime, and we\u2019re busting up gangs\u2014including Operation Bloodhound, that we saw today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222506c8b09e534f9d80666f74082d86ff\u0022\u003ESimeon Brown\u003C/span\u003E: $2.75 million to the gangs.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002272f98dd5ce9c4fe5966414dba6e0da14\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Has she\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002222c6a02863c84ce3b6047c3806fa7c3a\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! No. Simeon Brown, you will stand, withdraw, and apologise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c9d4c44dabef471db4d81fb8f7fc170d\u0022\u003ESimeon Brown\u003C/span\u003E: I withdraw and apologise.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222fdba7ba89584e0b9bd44cfe9f01e657\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Has she or her office bothered to even have a conversation with the Minister of Police to encourage her to get across the detail of the significant matter in her portfolio?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022df32e72f87c24d7e9c23c66d3a1dc365\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister: the Prime Minister and her office engage on a daily basis with Ministers, and, during those engagements with the Minister of Police, I\u2019m sure the Minister and the Prime Minister have shared the fact that we are proud of a New Zealand Police Force that, just today, has broken up gangs in the Hawke\u2019s Bay, in the eastern district; that is part of Operation Tauwhiro that seized over 1,500 firearms, arrested over 1,200 people, seized over 50 kilograms of methamphetamine, and conducted 900 searches under warrant. That is what you get when a Government properly funds the police and doesn\u2019t freeze funding for the police.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b6f395f07d7d41d8911c43f06b751e32\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 4\u2014Environment\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022 data-id=\u00228757fe6324e240aeb8201d64587e09e9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228757fe6324e240aeb8201d64587e09e9\u0022\u003EBARBARA EDMONDS (Labour\u2014Mana)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for the Environment: What announcements has the Government made about supporting the restoration of waterways?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022 data-id=\u00224da4b62bc1e94de6aaf5eccba408c303\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224da4b62bc1e94de6aaf5eccba408c303\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER (Minister for the Environment):\u003C/span\u003E Today, the Government announced a Jobs for Nature project in partnership with Porirua City Council, Ng\u0101ti Toa, and Sustainable Coastlines to restore the health of the Porirua Harbour. Porirua Harbour is the largest estuary in the lower North Island and once was plentiful with pipi, mussels, oyster, and tuna. I\u2019ve just come back from the estuary. It is obvious that the tens of thousands of tonnes of sediment from road and subdivision earthworks and some agricultural practices are degrading the estuary. Remedial action is clearly needed, and I commend the efforts of the local community.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022620565c01efe41cebd89fbbb5821866f\u0022\u003EBarbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: How will the Jobs for Nature project support employment and improved environmental outcomes in Porirua?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002279a22c08255d417e9fc3d4388671a525\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: This is a long-term project. It will plant some 630,000 plants in many kilometres of riparian planting and fencing, as well as fund weed and pest control. An integral part of the programme is providing training and skills that improve capability. The funding will also support the Integrated Catchment Management Plan. Fine-scale LiDAR data for every stream and all parts of the harbour, enabled by the Provincial Growth Fund, is helping drive down costs for this project while also assisting developers in the community. Coupled with the training, this project is driving productivity upwards as well as improved environmental outcomes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ef27df33795c42e184728a137e328cc2\u0022\u003EBarbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: How is the Jobs for Nature programme tracking in its first 18 months?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ded26221a82844fea8154216a409c89f\u0022\u003EHon DAVID PARKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it\u2019s having a significant impact on the environment and our communities over the last year and a half it\u2019s been running. As of December 2021, the programme has funded over 380 projects, with more than 7,000 people employed. This progress is great to see. Across all these projects, over 4 million plants have gone into the ground, with many freshwater habitats being restored. It\u2019s leveraging council, private sector, and community action to help clean up our environment and improve our waterways.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00221bca26f0659347d5a857e16ce813cb07\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 5\u2014Housing (Public Housing)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u002272ed7e0390454f6aa1754ad942a56450\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002272ed7e0390454f6aa1754ad942a56450\u0022\u003ECHRIS BISHOP (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Housing (Public Housing): How many people were on the Housing Register in September 2017 compared to today, and what is the median wait time for people on the Housing Register to be housed in public housing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022 data-id=\u0022d906ffdf3edb413ba6f1b97e312c6e9b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d906ffdf3edb413ba6f1b97e312c6e9b\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS (Associate Minister of Housing (Public Housing)):\u003C/span\u003E The housing register reflects the strong emphasis that we have placed on people coming forward and telling us if they need housing support, and the long-standing failure to build the homes New Zealanders need that we inherited. The register has increased by 20,485 applications since September 2017, when there were 5,844 applications. The median days to house is 234. Since September 2017, we have housed 29,501 households, and in that time we have overseen record building consents, up 25 percent on 2021, added over 8,900 new public homes, and we are on track to deliver the 18,000 additional public and transitional homes to be built and delivered by 2024.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220e3cc9f873e44a58bcba977a37be1dba\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Does she think that rent increases of $150 a week since 2017 have contributed to the housing register quintupling since 2017?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002216e0be06f3cc4b4bbdc3995fd26f635a\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: There are a range of considerations when addressing the issue of the register and the wait times, and one of them is the fact that we inherited a housing crisis that the previous Government ignored and we are determined to fix. We\u2019re making good progress, but it will take some more time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002226edd6920afd4fd8afd4816bef215fac\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Just in reference to the last part of her answer\u2014that we need more time\u2014has she been advised as to when the housing register will return to the levels it was in September 2017, and, if so, what is it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225c2429aa16204ecf9a4597c573b1970c\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: There is no acceptable number. We want to ensure that people are housed in affordable, warm, dry housing, and that\u2019s why this Government has committed to building more public housing. We do that because we want to ensure that, when people feel the need, they can come forward to the Ministry of Social Development and express their need for housing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c90ccd65c7d1495cbb3fda31fd6d3796\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. It was quite a specific question, which was whether or not the Minister had received advice as to when the housing register numbers will decrease back down to 2017 levels. It was a reference to the Minister\u2019s first supplementary answer in relation to the Government needing more time. I\u2019m seeking to find out exactly how much more time they need and when that might be.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fed4f9620e844b699ffc0746130c1144\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The Minister did speak to part of that. I\u2019m not sure she mentioned if it was official information. Maybe the Minister would like to clarify.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c0b3df4cd3764ca9804101c5a1f47109\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: No.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228102e2bf7e304d18a7dc6fb4b578acbf\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: How many children are living in emergency housing whose families are on the housing register?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022692aec82611b423f94e0a363e0b42a64\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: It\u2019s never acceptable for children to be in emergency housing, and that\u2019s why what we are doing is ensuring that we build more public housing. It would be important for the member to recognise that emergency housing is part of another delegation, and I would welcome the opportunity, if the member wishes to choose it, for the member to put that question in writing and I would pass it on to the Minister who is responsible for that work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221029b9f53a534c4687fbab5f490e106d\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. It\u2019s correct, somewhat oddly, that the Minister for Social Development and Employment is responsible for emergency housing but the Associate Minister of Housing (Public Housing) is responsible for the housing register. And my question was: how many children are living in emergency housing whose families are on the housing register? The Minister does have responsibility for that, and I\u2019d ask you to get her to address the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002263924f835413408ca7580d49a67f3e5e\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I actually think she did, but I\u2019ll give the member one more supplementary. There\u2019s enough doubt for him to explore that again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c300ec54ac1a4eee8e852e1ee5d17daa\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Has she been advised as to the increase in the number of children who are living in emergency housing whose families are also on the housing register, and, if so, what is it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d98b73506cd14414b120814e27901d6d\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: As I\u2019ve just said, we are talking about two different responsibilities here. My role in public housing is to ensure that we provide sufficient housing for our people on the public housing register to move off. The circumstances of that is that people come to us with a range of needs. If the member would like to know if people are in emergency housing, I can pass those questions on to the Minister responsible. That member should put his question in writing to me.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a1dd68e9d01f4dc4adf9d2e4230c698a\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Why is the Minister not across the detail of her portfolio to the extent where she does not know how many children are growing up in motels who are on the housing register that she is responsible for solving or addressing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a3d3a4c1c55144f69673cec6992fc634\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: There are a range of circumstances that people on the housing register are in, including whether they have been living in substandard homes, whether they have been dealing with life circumstances that have made things very difficult for them. My role is to ensure that we support the build of housing so that we can move people from the register into warm, dry, safe, affordable accommodation, and that\u2019s what this Government is doing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227ddbe5ed9050414bb17407671610af97\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Has she had a conversation with the Associate Minister of Housing Marama Davidson regarding her open letter calling for rent controls, and, if she has had a conversation, in that conversation, did she suggest to the Associate Minister that, as a Minister of the Crown, she perhaps had some responsibility and some influence over Government housing policy, such that she wouldn\u2019t need to write an open letter to the Prime Minister of the Government in which she serves?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002215c251f3d763466fb2fc63a10cfa42bc\u0022\u003EHon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. Clearly, the Minister answering this question is not responsible for the subject matter that the member has raised.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fce54c61961f422abc94bb42e23a78fe\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order. The question was around whether or not she had a conversation with the Associate Minister of Housing Marama Davidson. The Minister is definitely responsible for a conversation she\u2019s had with their Associate Minister, I hope.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d403d1e3beea422ba03f0d1221b0542b\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, but on the other hand\u2014[Members interjecting] Order! No, your question went on to include issues and factors that the Minister is not responsible for. She can answer the first part of the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b5774af4b58e4e838bf0b47b2b4e8bed\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order. We are in a bit of a difficulty here, because the Associate Minister of Housing Marama Davidson has written an open letter to the Prime Minister, and my question is a very simple one, which is whether or not Minister Williams, in the Associate Minister role\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dd60ea3ba6af410fa7917e9491720fed\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, I heard what the question was, and I\u2019ve made a ruling. [Members interjecting] No, sit down. No one\u2019s speaking to the point of\u2014I have made a ruling and the Minister can address the first part of the question, in so far as she\u2019s responsible for it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002267ed4b8e7f2f401c901b1034b94aa996\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Mr Speaker. I have conversations with Minister Davidson all the time on a range of issues concerning housing, concerning family and sexual violence, and a whole range of other concerns.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022129633ab0aac4020a53cffa690347fb1\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, just seeking your advice with regards to that line of questioning that\u2019s just occurred. It was incredibly confusing, because incorrect assertions around people\u2019s portfolios were made and the wrong responsibilities\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224b6d6db0acec410280676ecf72839d52\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, that is not a point of order. That is not a point of order. You cannot take a point of order to seek advice. I\u2019ve made the ruling, and that ruling stands.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d01124c5cfd54c31970f5ff562dfe79d\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 6\u2014Internal Affairs\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002217bfa49a-da49-4001-9466-0b4bfd70b3f3\u0022 data-id=\u0022ed5d6b2422404dd494fe84b1a238501e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002217bfa49a-da49-4001-9466-0b4bfd70b3f3\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ed5d6b2422404dd494fe84b1a238501e\u0022\u003EDr EMILY HENDERSON (Labour\u2014Whang\u0101rei)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Internal Affairs: What work is the Government progressing to reduce gambling harm in vulnerable communities?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022 data-id=\u0022c8aea6a320fd4534bb5140649bf1ef8a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c8aea6a320fd4534bb5140649bf1ef8a\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI (Minister of Internal Affairs):\u003C/span\u003E I have announced a review of the regulation of class 4 gaming machines, otherwise known as \u201Cpokies\u201D. Pokies are known to be the most harmful form of land-based gambling in Aotearoa, with one in five players considered to be at risk from gambling harm. The review, which is now under way, aims to target and reduce harms experienced by some who use pokies, and those close to them. As the Minister of Internal Affairs, I am committed to ensuring our regulations are working to reduce harm as much as possible, and we have the necessary enforcement tools for non-compliance.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002217bfa49a-da49-4001-9466-0b4bfd70b3f3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f5a1e11f539d49888de3077f06743aad\u0022\u003EDr Emily Henderson\u003C/span\u003E: Why is a review of class 4 gambling machines needed?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ceaf237cf7944b318e47e4c91b2e9a82\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI\u003C/span\u003E: Harm caused by pokies gambling contributes to the majority of referrals to gambling treatment providers. We know it\u2019s a major cause of second-hand gambling harm experienced by a gambler\u2019s wh\u0101nau and friends. Data from the 2020 Health and Lifestyles Survey indicates that about 10 percent of New Zealanders use pokies. While some may consider pokies a form of recreational fun, for far too many Kiwis and their families they cause serious mental, financial, and social harms. We also know that gambling harm tends to adversely affect those who can least afford it and may already be experiencing social or financial challenges. That is why I\u2019m taking action to ensure our legislation is fit for purpose and appropriate interventions are in place to reduce harm.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002217bfa49a-da49-4001-9466-0b4bfd70b3f3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022506dbdb5809745f597aab3549235f0f7\u0022\u003EDr Emily Henderson\u003C/span\u003E: What is in scope of the review?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002208fa6c9dedab457c89586787ad19e46d\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI\u003C/span\u003E: The review will bring greater clarity around what venues need to do to identify and support at-risk gamblers. We\u2019re also looking at pokie machine features and technology options, as well as strengthening enforcement for non-compliance. There is a focus on prescriptive tools that will discourage continuous harmful gambling. The discussion document is publicly available now, and I encourage anyone who has been affected by gambling harm, or knows someone who has, to make a submission. We have a chance to improve lives and make meaningful change. Feedback from public consultation, in addition to harm treatment providers, societies, and gambling venues, will help us create regulations informed by gamblers, their wh\u0101nau and friends, and people who work with those experiencing harm.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002277da9286ca814d96a9c3abab74f91507\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 7\u2014Police\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022 data-id=\u00229e6613da3f4b4faa984c01a8d0192791\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229e6613da3f4b4faa984c01a8d0192791\u0022\u003EHon MARK MITCHELL (National\u2014Whangapar\u0101oa)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Police: Does she stand by her statement regarding the reported blowout in police response times, \u201CI am not over the detail of that\u201D; if so, why?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022 data-id=\u002214a82f85c664430d95170b2bb0a56cc5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002214a82f85c664430d95170b2bb0a56cc5\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS (Minister of Police):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, in the context my statement was made. There are a number of points I would like to confirm to the member in regards to police response times. Response times for emergencies have remained stable, with the median response time in urban areas around eight minutes over the past four years. The response times significantly fluctuate during the year and across New Zealand, and tend to be higher over the summer period. There have been unprecedented pressures on the police due to multiple COVID outbreaks, which have had a significant impact on police resourcing and response times. As a Government, we are committed to support police, and that\u2019s why we have invested significantly in police resourcing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dc923206a8e644d881850b5099b733be\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: Does she believe it is acceptable that some Kiwis are waiting nearly two hours for police to respond to serious incidents?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223ed9666bea98477f9688c65f73b53bf9\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: No, I do not, but what I am supportive of is the fact that, despite the fact that police have been significantly impacted by COVID\u2014the temporary COVID spike\u2014they have been working significantly to support the members in this House. They have been working at managed isolation and quarantine (MIQ). The numbers that were reported in the Official Information Act request that the member has been referencing relate to February 2022, when these conditions were at their peak. And, despite all the pressures on the police, they were still able to deliver an emergency response that was within or around eight minutes, which is within the same kind of time over the last four years. So it has not significantly increased. And that is because they have been supported by this Government to deliver, because we have put 1,400 extra cops on the beat and invested heavily in them by adding $450 million into supporting police.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222cc2b65749084128bb0644828f9ca7c2\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: Did crime increase or decrease over the COVID spikes?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ed9302b17e9645ca8d8d2c56a973f659\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: There are two different priority areas that the police respond to: priority 1, which is the emergency response time, which I\u2019ve already said has stayed around eight minutes regardless of the pressure on the police. The second part of their priorities\u2014priority 2\u2014has seen an increase, and that has primarily been in the area of family harm. We know that some of the most significant and important calls to the service are in the family harm area, and our police respond. And they do that because they have been supported by this Government with an extra 1,400 police on the beat and record investment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d6e8e20cc0d84b14b38bb58a1613abdb\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. In her response, the police Minister referred to COVID spikes as being a reason for an increase in police response times, and I asked her a very clear and direct question: \u201CHas crime increased or decreased during the COVID spikes?\u201D She didn\u2019t address that at all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002293b1b2b180b14f318dbf3af652bc9f53\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, she did.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f1c9ff0b42624ae8949027d7e7cd7ea7\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: Is there a link between an increase in gang violence and a reduction in police response times?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022593fb247da40401aaecaef6ca9112fb0\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: Has the member got some research that indicates that? In my view, Operation Tauwhiro\u2014taking 1,000 gang arrests, taking 1,500 gang firearms off the streets, and taking 52 kilos of gang meth\u2014is just one example of the work that the New Zealand Police do every single day to break the back of the gangs in this country. I find every single time that member stands in this House, he criticises the work of the New Zealand Police. And I back the police, this Government backs the police, and we do it by ensuring they have the investment they need to do the work that they need.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e6515c7ae72e49ed8d0d883598282e5b\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: What is the targeted time for priority 2 events?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bedb0ffa45b942e7bf84b7dae757d645\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: As soon as possible would be great, but the police have experienced\u2014particularly in February 2022, which is where that member is taking his particular information from. That was at a time when police were impacted by COVID. They are our front line. Not only were they impacted by COVID, they put themselves in harm\u2019s way of COVID all the time. They were off being isolated, there were hundreds of cops here protecting us, and they were in MIQ. Now, that is the time when that member chose to look at response times, and it is an absolute credit to the New Zealand Police that they were able to respond to emergencies in the same time frames, and that is because we have invested in police and they have the resources to do so. If it had been under National, where they froze budgets and they cut\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002263c57d7b05154b45adcedaf8c0e47655\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Order! I think that\u2019s been addressed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c1b31e574e2f424a81c5787b22cfd631\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. I am seeking your guidance on this, as my primary is very specific and it deals with response times, and I asked the Minister a very specific question\u2014\u201CWhat is the targeted time for priority 2 events?\u201D\u2014which she has spoken to, and she did not answer that question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002279db8b64-1f9b-4416-9b81-a12963db9cbf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226174f2ccfc994e5b9965261b3c45170e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: She did actually address the question. Although she did not give a specific time, she did address the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d224d04ac034ce2bb369a51c2a93871\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: Is a home invasion a category 1 or a category 2 offence?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002249487bcb17504219949716aa84557759\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: It\u2019s a significant category 1 event.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002242dcba168cc749f8b7e07ccc426e9dc2\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Minister sure about that?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c0e0c86e-e14d-4daa-9bc8-1b5a3d7defeb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022765d5b261e5f4204b59566575b023461\u0022\u003EHon POTO WILLIAMS\u003C/span\u003E: The police respond to category 1 events where there is a threat of harm to that person, and I would expect the police to be dealing with that as quickly as possible.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b6449084848f4654b6e345e59bee2cb3\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 8\u2014Social Development and Employment\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022 data-id=\u00229b711d01be1f4bcd8486ca10729c9904\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229b711d01be1f4bcd8486ca10729c9904\u0022\u003EKAREN CHHOUR (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E My question is to the Minister for Social Development and Employment\u2014[Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002255f2207f17374b9da18b8d979e625f80\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Sorry to interrupt the member. Interjections during questions are out of order. You know who you are. I\u2019ll let you start again, Karen Chhour.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022 data-id=\u002277a558f0d88343dbb708e6370203f07a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002277a558f0d88343dbb708e6370203f07a\u0022\u003EKAREN CHHOUR (ACT)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Social Development and Employment: Does she believe that jobseeker beneficiaries who fail to meet their work obligations should have their benefits reduced; if so, why were work-related benefit sanctions in the last quarter of the last year less than half what they were in 2019?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022 data-id=\u002294c18ba00f9b4964a8a349607a86f09d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002294c18ba00f9b4964a8a349607a86f09d\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI (Minister for Social Development and Employment):\u003C/span\u003E Only if it is appropriate to do so, and as a last resort. The Ministry of Social Development (MSD) has changed its way of working during COVID-19. Staff are more proactive with clients and offer more phone engagements, in line with the alert and traffic light settings. The member will notice the number of people sanctioned for failing to prepare for work has remained steady over this time period, and almost all the drop-off in sanctions is for failing to turn up to an appointment. This reflects the changed environment due to COVID-19, as well as increased Government investment in front-line work-focused case management. I\u2019d also like to point out the big drop in the number of parents with dependent children who are sanctioned. This fell from 1,980 in December 2019 to 579 in December 2021. MSD are working more closely with clients to understand the reason for their non-compliance and make it easier to re-comply if they have children. Our new ways of working have been successful. Last year, more people moved off a main benefit and into work than at any time since electronic records were kept, a trend which is continuing in 2022.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002203428b6e3a5a4341a5d5e2dc546b58fd\u0022\u003EKaren Chhour\u003C/span\u003E: If someone on jobseeker support does not have an exemption for health reasons and refuses to fulfil a suitable job vacancy, should they be able to stay on their full benefit with no consequences?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002252178e31acf94f2db9b34378c1bd0941\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI\u003C/span\u003E: Every person\u2019s situation on the benefit is different, and it\u2019s important that the Ministry of Social Development and the case managers recognise that. We also need to begin from the starting point of assuming that the vast majority of people who are on benefit do want to work. MSD\u2019s job is to support them into the job opportunities that are available, that are best suited to them, and work to ensure that the work they take up is sustainable and meaningful for them and good for them and their wh\u0101nau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002253431760b20149e6adee283c94ecd074\u0022\u003EKaren Chhour\u003C/span\u003E: Is it fair to use hard-working Kiwis\u2019 taxes to pay for 106,000 work-ready jobseeker beneficiaries when many industries are crying out for labour, with some having to shut their doors due to understaffing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022934a2134f3774754a5b085802059b174\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI\u003C/span\u003E: What is not fair is to use the politics of divide and rule by trying to pit those \u201Chard-working\u201D New Zealanders against people that are on benefit. Many of us in this House would have had a stint on benefit at some point in time. We\u2019re no longer on it. We didn\u2019t have the intention to stay on it. We always had aspirations to get out and work for ourselves and our wh\u0101nau, and that is what the vast majority of beneficiaries also have. There\u2019s also a cohort of New Zealanders who struggle to get into work for a range of other reasons, including health conditions and disabilities, and for far too long they have been under-invested in. It\u2019s not just about expecting the person on benefit to get off benefit and go and work. It\u2019s about a Government being committed to breaking down the barriers to them being able to take up employment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dc9bbcba88134eeea74905f92d35e421\u0022\u003EKaren Chhour\u003C/span\u003E: Why, when so many businesses need staff, have the average future years on a benefit risen from 10.6 years in 2017 to 12.4 years in 2021?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022af66412786ac444895dc323977b5eb9a\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI\u003C/span\u003E: I saw some recent information that came through to my office yesterday that actually saw there\u2019s been a reasonably significant increase in the number of New Zealanders who were exiting benefit and still in employment six months later. This is what we\u2019ve been focused on since day one in Government\u2014is not just seeing getting people off benefit as the win, which the previous Government saw as a win, regardless of where they went, but actually supporting them into sustainable, meaningful employment so that they are able to continue to work for them and their wh\u0101nau and, hopefully, with the right support, not return to benefit.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00226d147ec5c7124e0d9967ace23153b12b\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 9\u2014Transport\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229c069cdb-968c-4f11-b126-92f9c655148b\u0022 data-id=\u0022a6756bb98668437cbdeeb00d08a2f7bf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229c069cdb-968c-4f11-b126-92f9c655148b\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a6756bb98668437cbdeeb00d08a2f7bf\u0022\u003ESHANAN HALBERT (Labour\u2014Northcote)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Transport: What updates has he seen regarding the Government\u2019s Clean Car Programme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022 data-id=\u0022c9dc079124ce423383bb515be2a2a169\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c9dc079124ce423383bb515be2a2a169\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOOD (Minister of Transport):\u003C/span\u003E Very good news. I can confirm that the Clean Car Discount programme is off to an electric start, with already over 12,000 rebates processed and paid out. This means that more Kiwis are getting behind the wheel of more affordable zero- and low-emissions vehicles. With today\u2019s milestone, electric and hybrid vehicles now make up over 1 percent of New Zealand\u2019s light vehicle fleet, with monthly sales generally double or triple what we were seeing before the Clean Car Discount programme\u2014and we have strong endorsement from the Leader of the House as well. By choosing to purchase zero- or low-emissions vehicles, New Zealanders are collectively helping our nation transition to a cleaner and a more efficient vehicle fleet.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229c069cdb-968c-4f11-b126-92f9c655148b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002261bd8407aba84ccf9160897f89df716c\u0022\u003EShanan Halbert\u003C/span\u003E: What recent changes have been made to the programme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002269cbb62af0dd48d681f0bdbc926320e3\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOOD\u003C/span\u003E: Major changes came into effect from 1 April, whereby the rebates will be available to a wider range of used and new fuel-efficient hybrid and electric vehicles based on their fuel efficiency. This extension will help even more Kiwis to make the change to more efficient vehicles and\u2014given increased petrol costs\u2014will assist them in lowering their household costs. Everyone who\u2019s buying an imported vehicle now has more opportunities to join our efforts to clean up our fleet, reduce emissions, and make our country more resilient against energy shocks. Our Government has a comprehensive policy in response to the climate emergency, focused on the critical task of decarbonising the transport system\u2014not just myopically building more roads.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229c069cdb-968c-4f11-b126-92f9c655148b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aaef06066ebf4438abd61b9f4d605f0c\u0022\u003EShanan Halbert\u003C/span\u003E: How is the programme helping Aotearoa New Zealand achieve our emissions targets?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222894248316dd43c3a5793e2d3551eeba\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOOD\u003C/span\u003E: New Zealand sits at the end of a long supply chain and risks becoming a dumping ground for the world\u2019s highest-emitting vehicles without these policies. The clean car scheme is helping to expedite the transition of our vehicle fleet, and doing so is putting a massive dent in our vehicle emissions, which make up 43 percent of New Zealand\u2019s carbon dioxide emissions. Over the life of a car, clean cars are proven to have lower costs in the long run once maintenance and fuel costs are taken into account, meaning they save Kiwis money as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a4a90082e7e4466aa890b0f185ac545c\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 10\u2014Immigration\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022 data-id=\u00229cd382fa67dd4091b597a8f1dcb75d57\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229cd382fa67dd4091b597a8f1dcb75d57\u0022\u003EERICA STANFORD (National\u2014East Coast Bays)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Immigration: Are there migrant doctors or nurses currently in New Zealand who are not eligible to apply for the 2021 Resident Visa, and, if there are, will he change the criteria so that all migrant doctors and nurses are eligible to apply to stay in New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022 data-id=\u0022ea247c4a80c348cd968f176a3735b4ad\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ea247c4a80c348cd968f176a3735b4ad\u0022\u003EHon KRIS FAAFOI (Minister of Immigration):\u003C/span\u003E The 2021 resident visa (R21) provides a one-off and streamlined pathway to residence for over 165,000 migrants. To meet the very simple and straightforward eligibility criteria, applicants must be on an eligible work visa and then either be settled, working in a scarce role, or be highly skilled. We did this to provide certainty to a large number of workers and their employers. It\u2019s almost certain that there are migrants in New Zealand working in health who may fall outside the criteria due to their being on either a student or working holiday visa. The focus of the 2021 resident visa was to secure those already working in New Zealand on a work visa. I\u2019m pleased to say that of the 90,000 applications that we have already received, over 2,500 applications have come from people working in health and aged care; this includes 775 registered nurses, 946 personal care assistants, 83 pharmacy technicians, 69 aged or disability carers, and 21 general practitioners\u2014all people working in health who will have certainty of residency very soon.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b401d13d9511420dba23592ad4cdf932\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: Does he honestly believe that the hundreds of nurses who are now working in our hospitals should miss out on the 2021 residency visa just because they were on a student visa last year while completing their New Zealand nursing degree, given that we are 4,000 nurses short?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002285d7d5bf14e84113bdc8ca6f8ca84fcf\u0022\u003EHon KRIS FAAFOI\u003C/span\u003E: As I said, the 2021 residency visa is a one-off and streamlined visa process. The eligibility for that\u2014or the applications close for that in July. That does not mean residency will disappear altogether, and I will remind the member that those people who want to stay in the country and whose skills we need will be able to apply under normal conditions when we return our focus back to normal conditions and away from the focus on the resident visa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229e4c33583c10409d99c5d58a1a136086\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Minister telling migrant doctors and nurses who are not eligible for R21, who are packing up and leaving New Zealand right now, that they should wait for some indeterminate date in the future that he won\u2019t say before they know if they are eligible for residence?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002260c38dd0afc44d2fa6ccd0bf92875a55\u0022\u003EHon KRIS FAAFOI\u003C/span\u003E: No; they are the words of the member asking the question. What I\u2019m saying is that there is a one-off visa opportunity for the people who are eligible. For those who are not and we need their skills, we still want you and we need your skills in the country, and, when we return to normal residency settings, they can apply.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227fe184966523447d9e0ab7a1c00713eb\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Minister willing to lose New Zealand - trained migrant nurses to offshore markets over a visa technicality that he has the ability to fix, when we are 4,000 nurses short across our DHBs and aged-care facilities?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229e499cc4ade74dfca74b24d85264abcb\u0022\u003EHon KRIS FAAFOI\u003C/span\u003E: My message to some of the people who the member may be advocating for is that we need your skills and, while you may not be eligible for residence under the one-off 2021 residency scheme, we want to make sure that you can remain in the country and that you\u2019ll have the opportunity to do that when our focus of processing and applications moves away from the residency visa process and to the normal residency process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c56e1a9b38ba4035bf273d2c33a79507\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: Why is he so hung up on sticking to the R21 visa rules, rather than being flexible to allow doctors and nurses the option to apply for the residency visa now to stop them leaving New Zealand, when we have a critical shortage of healthcare workers?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224e9b51a4d15f4ca3845c19fd49579eab\u0022\u003EHon KRIS FAAFOI\u003C/span\u003E: The 2021 residency visa, as I mentioned at the outset, was, we believe, open to about 110 applicants and, we forecast, to about 165 individuals as a whole when we get to that stage. They are a very broad criteria to make sure that we secure the workforce that has helped us through the last two or three years. That does include a lot of critical healthcare workers. I would say to those who are likely\u2014and some warm congratulations because you will soon be residents, and to those who aren\u2019t eligible that we still need your skills and, when we move our focus away from the current resident visa to make sure we can get those applications done quickly and secure that workforce, that you\u2019re almost likely to be eligible for residency under the normal settings when we get back to those settings.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f13c3a8b3031413d9a0015cb71295e7b\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: Supplementary question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d6bcf76f6cda4d2fb448fcbb00d8166f\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m sorry; the National Party has run out of supplementaries.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002290ea1538-43e8-4257-bd80-df3ccd1e5f27\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222ead2e61510540ae9d1613313bbee83b\u0022\u003EHon Kris Faafoi\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, again?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002292788d76f42442caa922def0985e7642\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022318760b3109b4d26b104f6fd8f5d1008\u0022\u003EChris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. In light of the glee with which the Minister of Immigration greeted that, perhaps we could have another one or two supplementaries to continue the fun.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022510da74774e24af1b51be5f07f919379\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No. [Interruption] Order!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002248c7c61f4aa145bf948f71dd13ac28cf\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 11\u2014Commerce and Consumer Affairs\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cc477162-e622-4c94-add7-36a586729e51\u0022 data-id=\u002238902b12a14045ea865ed6e35e138e7e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc477162-e622-4c94-add7-36a586729e51\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002238902b12a14045ea865ed6e35e138e7e\u0022\u003ENAISI CHEN (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs: What recent announcements has he made regarding business transparency?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022 data-id=\u00226844e2afaafb4625a652163622657ff1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226844e2afaafb4625a652163622657ff1\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK (Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs):\u003C/span\u003E Good news: on behalf of the Government, I\u2019ll be introducing a bill which will crack down on global and domestic criminals who use businesses to hide money-laundering for tax evasion and the financing of terrorism. The changes we have committed to making will make it easier to see who owns or controls a company\u2014that is, who the beneficial owners are. This is about striking the right balance. We want to ensure we don\u2019t leave the door open for criminals to take advantage, whilst at the same time we want to preserve our well-earned reputation for ease of doing business.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc477162-e622-4c94-add7-36a586729e51\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220b64d173a58f4dfc8c803b50195d4dc7\u0022\u003ENaisi Chen\u003C/span\u003E: Why is it important that the Government acts?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bb146e88287844aa9ede5b7b913a15f2\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: The changes we\u2019re making sit in line with the Government\u2019s national security priorities to help identify threats, risks, and challenges to New Zealand\u2019s security and wellbeing. It\u2019ll also help to bring us in line with other jurisdictions. The Pandora and Panama papers highlighted some key vulnerabilities, which need to be addressed. New Zealanders deserve to know who they\u2019re doing business with.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cc477162-e622-4c94-add7-36a586729e51\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222a54806237314fca921d6ea941bbc889\u0022\u003ENaisi Chen\u003C/span\u003E: So what changes has he proposed?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225bbd9f26-fdb0-4b85-a836-0fc46e1bba3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f20c515d3ffe476f8a6e5daf654270d6\u0022\u003EHon Dr DAVID CLARK\u003C/span\u003E: When searching the Companies Register, it can be difficult to see the complete picture of a company\u2019s ownership structure. A unique identifier number or serial number will be assigned to all beneficial owners, directors, and general partners of limited partnerships. It\u2019ll mean the Companies Office will be able to confidently link individuals with all the entities they\u2019re associated with, and this will be publicly available. Also, the use of a director\u2019s residential address has previously been a proxy for an individual identifier, but it has not always worked effectively, especially where someone had multiple addresses. The implementation of the unique identifier system will make linking connected interests much simpler. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022dcb45dcf43f64b598b22e892e10a26e5\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 12\u2014Housing\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022 data-id=\u002298563391dc884b00afa73d600395aaa7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002298563391dc884b00afa73d600395aaa7\u0022\u003ECHL\u00D6E SWARBRICK (Green\u2014Auckland Central)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Housing: Does she agree that rent prices are contributing to hardship; if so, what steps, if any, will she take to lower them?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022 data-id=\u0022b5cfa9e0da434b9e983bb56e2fdc4571\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b5cfa9e0da434b9e983bb56e2fdc4571\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Housing):\u003C/span\u003E In answer to the first part, like all fixed household expenses, rent can be a cause of material hardship for some people. This is why our Government has been working hard to improve household incomes, including increasing Working for Families tax credits, the minimum wage, benefits, and superannuation; indexing benefits annually to the increases in wages; and increasing the accommodation supplement from 1 April 2018. In response to the second part of the question, the Government has taken steps to specifically improve affordability for renters, including limiting rent increases to once per year, prohibiting landlords from seeking rental bids, and banning letting fees, but ultimately, the best way to lower rents is to increase the supply of affordable housing. It is important to recognise that rent increases are driven by long-run supply shortages in the housing market. This is the housing crisis that has been decades in the making, and it\u2019s why this Government is so focused on delivering new supply. For example, the national increase for the Statistics New Zealand rents price increase for the year to February 2022 was 4.6 percent. In regions like Auckland and Canterbury, which have had a lot of residential building activity, and, therefore, increased supply, rents increased by 2.7 percent in Auckland and 3 percent in Canterbury for the same period.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002246c8053cc49e4458aca02e8a1308302d\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: How long, specifically, will it take for rents in Aotearoa to become affordable, with the Minister\u2019s aforementioned supply-side interventions alone, noting that one quarter of renters currently spend more than 40 percent of their income on housing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229686fcd1f0114947b3f5d96b883664f1\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: I think we find consensus through just about every economist in the country that will point to our current rental and housing crisis being a supply-side problem, amongst other things, but I think if you have a look at, for example, the Green Party\u2019s aspiration to limit rent increases to 2.8 percent, as put out in their policy today, I think we can see that we\u2019ve actually seen Auckland, through a supply-side intervention, already performing better than that, with rental price index increases limited to 2.7 percent.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226f8bb3a9f20d4198a0e7ce214b0e07e4\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: Will the Minister seriously consider rent controls, or would she prefer to rely on the discretion of landlords to lower rents to affordable levels out of the goodness of their hearts?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226b49c0507c85449aa5eaa4f86d413cd7\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: I think we can point to a suite of policies that our Government has already put in place, like limiting to once a year, stopping bidding and letting fees, but I also point the member to Shamubeel Eaqub\u2019s comment, who said that rent controls can have an unintended effect of slowing down the supply of housing in the rental market. He said, \u201CIt seems like a deceptively simple thing to do: just stop rents rising and everything will be fine \u2026 But it isn\u2019t that simple, there are known consequences. It means that we are likely to have fewer rentals.\u201D We have a housing crisis in New Zealand because we do not have enough houses, and our Government is absolutely committed to supply-side solutions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fd70dc443ac042f5be2f16aff4611a23\u0022\u003ERicardo Men\u00E9ndez March\u003C/span\u003E: How long does she expect it will take for all the people on the public housing waiting list to have a suitable secure and affordable home to live in?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228c2e9737252b410eb66bf6346408de58\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: We have a public housing build programme that is the largest of any Government since the 1970s. One of the points of both sadness and frustration for us as a Government, however, is that we are making up for the squandered opportunities of the previous Government. Not only did they end up with 1,500 fewer houses than they started with, but if they had built at the same rate as we did, there would be over 22,000 more public houses in New Zealand today, accounting for 85 percent of the current waiting list. So, while we are pulling every lever, unfortunately we are playing catch-up for the gutting of public housing by the previous National Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cb4947744a4d468c85747b2cb20526fa\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry, before the member asks a question, can I ask the Hon Kris Faafoi to stop shouting behind the Minister answering the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022373f881be8d64f82beaec9855b16662c\u0022\u003ERicardo Men\u00E9ndez March\u003C/span\u003E: Does she believe she is pulling all the levers to fix the housing crisis, and, if so, will she consider an in-house construction entity to increase the supply of public housing, as proposed by FIRST Union in its A Ministry of Green Works for Aotearoa New Zealand report?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c954e7f5825d4f4096d96a4c898194d2\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: Our Government is under no illusions about the size and the complexity of the housing crisis. It is decades in the making, and there is no one single simple fix to the housing crisis. We have to be combining both supply and demand levers, and we have to make sure that we\u2019re exploring every opportunity. I think that we can see that we are already starting to see the green shoots of some of that activity. If we look to Auckland and we look to Canterbury, we can see that we have had significantly lower rental price index increases in those centres because they are also the centres that have had increased supply of housing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022490d9e4e8ea74231b58b7382b020d924\u0022\u003ETe Pire m\u014D te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o te K\u0101hui o Matariki/Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002214ee233f28854723995c438f16fb3447\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022 data-id=\u0022633027e1c427432d80fcfb1ad58a3274\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022633027e1c427432d80fcfb1ad58a3274\u0022\u003EHon KIRITAPU ALLAN (Associate Minister for Arts, Culture and Heritage):\u003C/span\u003E Ka t\u0101paea e au te tau\u0101k\u012B \u0101-ture o Te Pire m\u014D te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o te K\u0101hui o Matariki/Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E[I table the legislative statement for Te Pire m\u014D te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o te K\u0101hui o Matariki/Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002287ffdad0ffb74b14896a7438484982d3\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That legislative statement is published under the authority of the House and can be found on the Parliament website.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a743f49694844b1e99971989aa2289cd\u0022\u003EHon KIRITAPU ALLAN\u003C/span\u003E: E m\u014Dtini ana au, Kia p\u0101nui tuatoruhia i t\u0113nei w\u0101 Te Pire m\u014D te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o te K\u0101hui o Matariki/Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EKia ara ake a Matariki i te huapae e tika ana kia hoki ng\u0101 mahara ki te hunga kua riro ki te P\u016Btahi-nui-o-Rehua. I t\u0113nei r\u0101 whakahirahira, ar\u0101 te p\u0101nuitanga tuatoru o te pire kia hoki ng\u0101 mahara ki \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 pou o Te Ao M\u0101ori kua ngaro i te tirohanga kanohi. Ko P\u014Dhutukawa te whet\u016B i hoki ai e mahara ki te hunga mate. Kia k\u012B ake au ka nui te mokemoke i konei ki a Ahorangi Te Moana-nui-a-Kiwa Jackson ki a Kahurangi Temuranga Batly-Jackson, ki a T\u0101 Harawira Gardiner otir\u0101 ki t\u014D r\u0101tou tira haere katoa kua tangihia kua mihia r\u0101tou, haere atu r\u0101 ki te huinga o te kahurangi. Whakar\u0113rea mai m\u0101tou ki muri nei ki te p\u012Bkau tonu i t\u0101 koutou i mahia ai ki te whakatinana hoki i t\u0101 koutou i wawata ai. Ki a t\u0101tou te hunga ora, t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EKa nui te hiamo o taku ng\u0101kau ki te p\u0101nuitanga tuatoru otir\u0101 te p\u0101nuitanga whakamutunga o te pire m\u0101na nei e t\u016B ai te hararei t\u016Bmatanui e whakanuia ai Te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o Te K\u0101hui o Matariki, Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill. Ko te hararei t\u016Bmatanui tuatahi t\u0113nei e aro ana ki te m\u0101tauranga me te tikanga M\u0101ori. He tino rerek\u0113 an\u014D t\u0113nei i ng\u0101 hararei t\u016Bmatanui katoa kua noho mai e tohu ana i te aronga k\u0113 o t\u014D t\u0101tou motu. Ko te t\u016Bmanako k\u0101hore e whakaarohia te hararei nei hei r\u0101 whakat\u0101 noa, engari hei w\u0101 k\u0113 e t\u016Bhonohono an\u014D ai t\u0101tou, t\u0113tahi ki t\u0113tahi ki te wh\u0101nau me ng\u0101 hoa ki te taiao an\u014D hoki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EKa kawea mai a Matariki te tau hou M\u0101ori, te w\u0101 e whakanuia ai kaua e ng\u0101i M\u0101ori anake engari e ng\u0101 iwi puta noa i Aotearoa. He whakar\u0101popoto a Matariki m\u014D Ng\u0101 Mata o te Ariki. E k\u014Drero ana m\u014D ng\u0101 whet\u016B e iwa e m\u014Dhiotia ana ko Te K\u0101hui o Matariki, ka ara ake i te huapae i waenganui takurua, T\u0101whirim\u0101tea. I nga r\u0101 o mua ko Matariki te tohu o te w\u0101 pai katoa ki te h\u012B ika ko te mahi m\u0101taitai ki te tanu r\u0101kau, ki te hauhake ki te kohi kai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EHe aha koia te mea nui o Matariki, \u0101, ko wai ng\u0101 whet\u016B e arahi ana i a t\u0101tou? Ko Matariki t\u0113n\u0101, ko Tupu\u0101rangi, ko Waipunarangi, ko Wait\u012B, ko Tupu\u0101nuku, ko Ururangi, ko Wait\u0101, ko P\u014Dhutukawa, ko Hiwa-i-te-rangi te whet\u016B tata katoa ki taku ng\u0101kau. Kia paku tirohia r\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EKia tirohia ko Matariki, ko ia te whaea o ng\u0101 whet\u016B e waru o te k\u0101hui. M\u0101na t\u0101tou e hono ki te noho ora, ki te hauora, e k\u012Bia t\u014Dna k\u014Drero ko Matariki te huarahi ki te oranga tangata. Ka huri ki a P\u014Dhutukawa. E hono an\u014D t\u0113nei whet\u016B ki te hunga mate, ki te hunga mate kua riro mai i te aranga ake o Matariki i te tau o mua atu. Tupu\u0101nuku, n\u0101na ko ng\u0101 kai o te whenua, ka whawh\u0101ria o te ringa, te whawh\u0101ria r\u0101nei e te ringa, ko t\u014Dna k\u014Drero ko \u2018Hauhake t\u016B ka t\u014D Matariki\u2019. Kia t\u014D a Matariki, kia hauhaketia ng\u0101 kai o te m\u0101ra kua kainamu ki te Takurua. Tupu\u0101rangi, n\u0101na ko ng\u0101 kai ka ahu mai i te rangi ko te manu t\u0113r\u0101. Ko t\u014Dna k\u014Drero ka kitea a Matariki kua maoka te hinu. Kia ara k\u0113 a Matariki kua m\u014Dmona te kerer\u016B e ng\u0101 hua o te ngahere, kua huatia kua rere te hinu kua hoatu ki tah\u0101 huahua. Wait\u012B e hono an\u014D ki te wai M\u0101ori me ng\u0101 tini katoa ka rere i ng\u0101 wai, i ng\u0101 manga, i ng\u0101 roto. Ko t\u014Dna k\u014Drero \u2018Ka kitea a Matariki ka rere te korokoro\u2019. I konei kua rere te korokoro i te moana kua piki i ng\u0101 wai M\u0101ori ki tuku paratau. Wait\u0101. E hono an\u014D t\u0113nei whet\u016B ki te moana. E tohu ana i te huhua o te kai ka kohia ki tai kia t\u016B mai ia ki te huapae o te moana m\u0101na e kukume ng\u0101 tai o ng\u0101 waipuke. Waipunarangi, ko te k\u014Drero m\u014Dna ko ng\u0101 wai ka t\u0101puapua mai i te rangi e k\u012Bia ai ko \u2018Matariki t\u0101puapua\u2019. Ururangi. Ko ng\u0101 hua \u0113nei o te takiw\u0101 kei a Ururangi ng\u0101 hau o te tau. Hiwa-i-te-rangi, te whet\u016B whakamutunga o te k\u0101hui, ko ia ka kawea mai i ng\u0101 painga o te tau hou. Ka whakairia atu ng\u0101 wawata, ng\u0101 koingo o te ng\u0101kau ki a ia i runga i te t\u016Bmanako ka ea katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EHeoi, ka huri au i konei ki te whakamihi i te K\u0101hui Arotake i te K\u0101wanatanga e whai mana t\u016Bturu ai te pire. Kei a koe e te manukura o te k\u0101hui ko koe t\u0113r\u0101 Ahorangi Rangi\u0101nehu Matamua. Ko te tohunga o Te M\u0101ramataka, ki a Rereata M\u0101kiha, Te M\u0101t\u0101puputu o Te Tau ki Aotearoa m\u014D t\u0113nei tau 2022. Ki a Hoturoa Barclay Kerr, k\u014Drua ko Jack Thatcher. Kua roa k\u014Drua e takahi ana i te au o te moana i te arahina e ng\u0101 whet\u016B i te rangi. Kei a koe T\u0101kuta Ruakere Hond e manaaki i ng\u0101 taonga tuku iho o Te Tai Hau\u0101uru, ko Puanga t\u0113r\u0101. Ki ng\u0101 w\u0101hine tokorua o t\u014D r\u014Dp\u016B, ng\u0101 mana wahine t\u0113r\u0101 o Te Wai Pounamu o Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu ki Victoria Campbell k\u014Drua ko T\u0101kuta Pauline Harris. E m\u012Bharo ana ki a k\u014Drua eke ki ng\u0101 taumata o te p\u016Btaiao o te m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori. N\u0101, ng\u0101 kaiarataki nei i kohikohi i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero a \u014D r\u0101tou iwi me \u0101 r\u0101tou tikanga o te tau hou. Ka whakahono i aua tikanga ki te pire nei. Ka nui te mihi ki a koutou katoa. Mei kore ake koutou i tika ai ng\u0101 huarahi i wh\u0101ia i hua mai ai ko t\u0101 t\u0101tou taonga hou an\u0101, te pire nei m\u014D Te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o Te K\u0101hui o Matariki, Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill. Ka mihi r\u0101 te ng\u0101kau e kore e mutu ng\u0101 mihi kia koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EHe r\u0101 nui whakaharahara t\u0113nei m\u014D Aotearoa nui tonu, m\u014D ng\u0101 whakatipuranga katoa, tae atu ki ng\u0101 reanga katoa k\u0101ore an\u014D i wh\u0101nau mai. Ka tupu r\u0101tou i runga i te m\u014Dhio e noho m\u0101t\u0101mua mai ana te m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori ki te whenua arohanuitia ana e t\u0101tou t\u014D t\u0101tou k\u0101inga, t\u014D t\u0101tou \u016Bkaip\u014D e t\u016B tangata ai r\u0101tou i te mata o te whenua. E Te M\u0101ngai, n\u014Dku te h\u014Dnore ka t\u0101paea i konei Te Pire ki Te Whare nei, \u0101, kei raro.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003E[I move, That Te Pire m\u014D te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o te K\u0101hui o Matariki/Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill be now read a third time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EWhen Matariki rises on the horizon, it is appropriate that we remember the group that have been taken to Canis Major. On this important day, that is the third reading of this bill we should remember some of the stalwarts of the M\u0101ori World who have passed from our sight. P\u014Dhutukawa is the star of remembrance for those who have passed. I have to say they will be greatly missed here, Professor Te Moana-nui-a-Kiwa Jackson, Dame Temuranga Batly-Jackson, Sir Harawira Gardiner, and to their whole travelling party, we weep for you and we mourn you, may you rest in peace in distinguished company. We are left behind to carry further what you have achieved, to bring your dreams to fruition. To us, the living, I acknowledge you all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EI am really excited about this, the third and final reading of the bill, which will create a public holiday to be commemorated, Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill. This is the first public holiday that focuses on M\u0101ori knowledge and customary practice. It is also very different from all the other current public holidays, a sign of the changing direction of our country. It is hoped that this holiday will not be thought of as just a day off but as a time of connection for us all, one to another, to family and friends and also to the environment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EMatariki conveys the M\u0101ori New Year, a time to be commemorated, not just by M\u0101ori but by all people in New Zealand. Matariki is an abbreviation for the Eyes of the God. It talks of the nine stars known as Pleiades, which rise on the horizon in the middle of winter. In days gone by, Matariki was the sign that it was a good time to fish, to gather seafood, to preserve wood, and to harvest and gather food. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EWhat indeed is the importance of Matariki and who are the stars that guide us? Matariki is one, the others are Tupu\u0101rangi, Waipunarangi, Wait\u012B, Tupu\u0101nuku, Ururangi, Wait\u0101, P\u014Dhutukawa, and Hiwa-i-te-rangi, which is the star closest to my heart. Let\u2019s take a brief look at them all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003ETake Matariki, she is the mother of the other eight stars of the cluster. She connects us all to the living, to health, her story described as Matariki, the pathway to wellbeing. Turning to P\u014Dhutukawa, this star connects to those who have passed, those who have passed since the rising of Matariki in the previous year. Tupu\u0101nuku, from where comes food from the land by the work of the hands, described as \u2018the harvest ends when Matariki sets\u2019. Until Matariki sets, harvesting food from the gardens should continue until close to Takurua. Tupu\u0101rangi, from where the food of the sky comes, that is the birds. As the story goes, when Matariki is seen, the game is ready. If Matariki has already risen, the New Zealand pigeons are fat from the fruits of the forest, the game is cooked and stored in its own fat in calabashes. Wait\u012B connects us to fresh water and the myriad tiny creatures that run there, in the streams and the lakes. It is said that when Matariki is seen, the lamprey migrates. The lamprey moves from the sea to climb in fresh water to spawn. Wait\u0101\u2014this star connects to the sea. It signifies the abundance of food collected from the coast when it rises on the horizon of the sea and it is also associated with flood tides. Waipunarangi is associated with the rain that creates pooling of water and is known as the pools of Matariki. Ururangi\u2014the fruits of the season that belong to Ururangi are the winds of the year. Hiwa-i-te-rangi, the final star of the cluster, the star that carries the promise of prosperity into the new year. Dreams and desires are sent to this star in the hope that they will all be fulfilled.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EI turn now to acknowledge the M\u0101ori Advisory Group, which has given the bill real authority. A huge thanks to the leader of the group, Professor Rangi\u0101nehu Matamua. Thanks also go to the M\u0101ori Lunar Calendar expert Rereata M\u0101kiha, who is the Senior New Zealander of The Year for 2022. Also to Hoturoa Barclay Kerr and Jack Thatcher. For a long time, the two of you have been travelling the currents of the seas under the guidance of the night sky. To you, Ruakere Hond, who has taken care of the treasures handed down on the West Coast regarding Rigel. To the two women of your group, women leaders from the South Island and Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu, Victoria Campbell and Dr Pauline Harris, I admire your ascendancy to the heights of the science in m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori. So these guides gathered together the stories of their tribes and their customary New Year practices. These practices have been interweaved into the Bill. A wholehearted thank to you all. We were fortunate to have you to straighten the path for us to follow which has produced this new treasure, Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill. My heart expresses never-ending thanks to all of you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a8cab3e3-b023-4ce7-9f4b-2c4137029057\u0022\u003EThis is a very important day for New Zealand at large, for all generations including those as yet unborn. They will grow up in the knowledge that m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori has a primary place in the land that is loved by all of us, our home, our real home, so that they may hold their heads high in this world. Mr Speaker, it is my honour to hereby present the bill to The House, thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u002214d4d9bd0bd048a1a837c414e790ed2f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002214d4d9bd0bd048a1a837c414e790ed2f\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (National):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. Your microphone doesn\u2019t seem to be working, but that\u2019s a matter for you\u2014ah, you turned it off! Thank you very much, and my pleasure to speak on this Te K\u0101hui o Matariki public holiday bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ELook, we on the National Party side of the House are very supportive of having this celebration of Matariki recognised as a public holiday\u2014it\u2019s important and, I think, timely and right that, amongst our public holidays, we have one that recognises Te Ao M\u0101ori, and Matariki is as good a suggestion as any. So we\u2019re very supportive of it and looking forward to celebrating on 24 June 2022. That all makes very good sense\u2014you know, it\u2019s the middle of winter and it\u2019s going to be cold, but it gives people a chance to reflect on what\u2019s going on, reflect on the impact and contribution of Te Ao M\u0101ori in our national identity and who we are and where we come from. It gives an opportunity for kids to learn about the stars and the traditions and the stories connected with public holidays\u2014so that\u2019s all great.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EOur concern around this bill is quite a natural one, which is to say it\u2019s our view\u2014and it\u2019s our humble view\u2014that, rather than adding another public holiday to our list, this should have been brought in replacing one of the current ones. And this Government will say, \u201CWell, pooh-pooh to you\u201D, because they sort of see Government as some kind of Father Christmas role where Government Ministers come along and they puff out their chests and they say, \u201CAren\u2019t we wonderful, aren\u2019t we kind, aren\u2019t we generous, you people? You can have another public holiday on us!\u201D It\u2019s very easy for Grant Robertson to rock up to his office and sign his little pen and just say, \u201CYes, everybody, we\u2019ll have another public holiday.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EIn fact, I\u2019m a little bit surprised he hasn\u2019t come up with five public holidays\u2014why not? Why not? That\u2019s my point: it\u2019s so easy. You can just whip the pen out and say, \u201CYes, have another public holiday, because we want everybody to be happy.\u201D\u2014as if there is no cost, there\u2019s no consequences from this, and it\u2019s part and parcel of what this Government\u2019s been doing on a regular basis over the past few months; all things which people no doubt enjoy but, ultimately, we as a country need to pay for it. There is no sort of magic, and I think of the small-business operators, I think of the small little-cafe owners struggling\u2014and they have been struggling throughout the COVID crisis that we\u2019ve had particularly, but they\u2019ve been struggling for a long time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022241dcdb3992e4784830b1dca82527ea0\u0022\u003EHon Kelvin Davis\u003C/span\u003E: Because no one goes to a cafe on their day off!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022023c29689b8747a9a84508ea882667e6\u0022\u003EHon Peeni Henare\u003C/span\u003E: No one drinks coffee on a holiday?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a6c1362394d9444d9f252a1ac1a419c2\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH\u003C/span\u003E: The members opposite mock, and they sit there and they say, \u201COh, isn\u2019t this just a joke? I mean, why shouldn\u2019t we just be having extra public holidays? Why shouldn\u2019t we be using our ministerial pens to give new opportunities, to give things away?\u201D\u2014money that they are not giving away. This is not them giving people a public holiday; it\u2019s passing a law that forces other people to give extra days off. And, ultimately, the regulatory impact statement, and so forth, talks about the potential costs of $377 million to $448 million\u2014a trifling matter, obviously, to the other side of the House; not something to be remotely concerned about! And, in the context of a country needing to strengthen its economy at a dangerous time internationally, where we\u2019re facing, astonishingly, unexpectedly, over the last few years, the retreat of globalisation, the disruption of international trade\u2014for a small trading nation like ours\u2014these are troubling times. The best thing we can be doing is concentrate on how we strengthen our economy so that we can continue to enjoy the living standards that we have over a long period of time and, actually, build on them so that New Zealanders can look after themselves and their families\u2014and they\u2019re the things that we\u2019re concerned about over here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s very easy for Ministers, like I say, to come in, puff out their chests, and say, \u201CAren\u2019t we fine? Here\u2019s another holiday. Isn\u2019t this great, aren\u2019t we special, aren\u2019t we lovely people?\u201D and expect other New Zealanders\u2014the business owners particularly\u2014to pay for it without any consequences. And our simple point is: yes, let\u2019s celebrate Matariki; yes, we agree with that; it\u2019s a good idea, and it is appropriate for New Zealanders to reflect on Te Ao M\u0101ori, celebrate this and talk about it\u2014we agree with it. But let\u2019s just, at this difficult time, consider replacing one of the current public holidays so that we\u2019re not adding additional pressure on our small businesses and our economy at a difficult time for the country. And, I think, actually, most New Zealanders, on reflection, would consider that a reasonable course of events.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ESo thank you, Mr Speaker, for the opportunity, and we\u2019d be interested to hear the debate coming from the other side. Thank you very much.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022 data-id=\u00228d5405350b0844d29a0315c5cd105309\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228d5405350b0844d29a0315c5cd105309\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E It\u2019s always a pleasure to follow on from my Ng\u0101ti Porou whanaunga \u201CP\u0101ora\u201D Goldsmith! There\u2019s nothing like a sign of how supportive you are: you don\u2019t make it halfway through your speech, you\u2019ve got your hands in your pockets all the way through your speech, and you keep shrugging your shoulders. Mr Goldsmith might do very well to reflect a little on the importance of what we are discussing today, because, when he spoke, he made it sound like it was some kind of lottery, what day we might choose for there to be a celebration of Matariki and for there to be a public holiday\u2014as if we could have picked any day! We could have picked today\u2014could have picked December, could have picked any day of the year! In actual fact, this is not that at all; it is not just another holiday. This is a celebration of Aotearoa New Zealand. This is a recognition of tikanga M\u0101ori, of Te Ao M\u0101ori view of the world, and a celebration of who we can be as a nation. It\u2019s not just about picking a day, Mr Goldsmith. It\u2019s not just about making sure that New Zealanders can have another day off. It\u2019s about building a culture in New Zealand where we understand and appreciate one another and where we understand the history and the heritage of how we have got to this point.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003EWhen the suggestion was floated, and it came through in the Labour Party\u2019s manifesto in 2020, I believe it was part of a number of measures that we put in place that give better recognition of who we are in Aotearoa New Zealand today and who we can be. And, for me, it very much sits alongside the introduction of New Zealand history into the Curriculum in our schools, because, as part of that work we will, for example, understand more about the way in which people came to be in Aotearoa New Zealand\u2014the role that Matariki and the stars played in our navigators finding their way to New Zealand. So, as we build up that understanding of our collective histories, we can start to then say, \u201CWell, how do we reflect that in our society?\u201D We reflect that through more people learning te reo M\u0101ori, we reflect that through more people understanding their histories, and we reflect that through taking a day, with Matariki, and saying, \u201CThis is the day when we will acknowledge that. We will come together and talk about what lies ahead in the new year.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003EKa puta a Matariki, ka rere a Wh\u0101nui, ko te tohu t\u0113nei o te tau hou: Matariki reappears, Wh\u0101nui starts its flight, being the sign of the New Year. This is an opportunity to understand and reflect on the year that has been and the year that will come. The brighter the stars are, I understand, and the clearer they are, that means how abundant the harvest will be. In June this year, we will see bright and clear stars, because the harvest will be abundant for New Zealanders as we come through COVID and we find a time to celebrate this important part of our nationhood.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003EMr Goldsmith spoke about the impact on small businesses, and this has been a very tough time for small businesses right across New Zealand, particularly those in the hospitality and the tourism sector. They will be welcoming the fact that New Zealanders, in June this year, will be able to go out\u2014and, as my colleague Kelvin Davis said, \u201CNo one drinks coffee on a holiday, do they?\u201D They go out and they go to cafes. They travel around New Zealand, they visit their friends and their wh\u0101nau, and they spend their money with those hospitality and tourism operators. But the National Party\u2019s solution here\u2014the National Party solutions that they put forward during the debate on this bill\u2014was to get rid of Labour weekend; was to take Labour weekend off New Zealanders. And I want to make sure that all New Zealanders know that the National Party put up an amendment during the committee stage of this bill to get rid of Labour weekend, to take Labour Day off New Zealanders. That\u2019s the approach\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002250fd02ec54c242fa85f6723987c6fb90\u0022\u003EHon Kelvin Davis\u003C/span\u003E: They hate workers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022639a02bf49604599ac3bee2aee85a40b\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014exactly, Mr Davis\u2014working people, for whom Labour weekend represents the sign that they work hard, the 40-hour week; the fact that we recognise, every single year, the importance of that. National wanted to take that off New Zealanders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022acb54f83d9fb433ca91fcee455529463\u0022\u003EHon Members\u003C/span\u003E: Shameful.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226007dc96-f459-4cdd-9972-4fde2c994088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022caaf379ae36b40dea18d410ae27f23c6\u0022\u003EHon GRANT ROBERTSON\u003C/span\u003E: Shameful indeed. On this side of the House, we\u2019re extremely proud of the fact that we are taking steps to recognise who we are as Aotearoa New Zealand, and, I believe, te K\u0101hui o Matariki public holiday bill is an important step in that. It sits alongside a number of other steps that will make sure that New Zealanders and future generations of New Zealanders grow up understanding more about themselves, more about their history. This is a great day of celebration for Aotearoa New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022 data-id=\u00224f053cd6ce764e2eb8ef55a773a1aa65\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224f053cd6ce764e2eb8ef55a773a1aa65\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON (National\u2014Coromandel):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Minister of Finance was quick to criticise the body language and the posture and the pose of my colleague the Hon Paul Goldsmith, but anyone watching\u2014in this Chamber and beyond\u2014the body language of the Minister of Finance would know he did not have his heart in it. He did not have his heart in it, because he\u2019s really good at being addicted to spending and addicted to borrowing and addicted to making light with taxpayers\u2019 money, actually.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ESo I want to pick up on the comments that my colleague the Hon Paul Goldsmith made in his contribution in his third reading speech. He made the point that on this side of the House we support, endorse, and accept that this is a good idea, actually, to have a holiday marking Matariki. It\u2019s part of what is the heritage of our country, and it should be appropriately marked. But we humbly suggest that at a time of economic concern\u2014some would say crisis\u2014when there is a well-accepted, now, cost of living crisis, and the squeezed middle of New Zealand society is being squeezed even harder, the Government should be careful in the way that it is administering and stewarding New Zealanders\u2019 hard-earned taxpayer dollars.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ENow, there\u2019s no cleverness in actually giving things away. There\u2019s no cleverness in making things free. But most of us know\u2014I\u2019m sure that Government members maybe don\u2019t know this, but most people know; certainly most voters know, most taxpayers know, most business people know\u2014that there isn\u2019t anything for free. Everything comes at a price, at a cost, and someone pays.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ESo, yes, great, have another public holiday. This legislation increases the number of statutory public holidays that we have in New Zealand from 11 to 12. There would be some\u2014there are certainly some on the Government benches\u2014who say, \u201CWell, look, you know, just keep creating public holidays. People love it.\u201D Look, I\u2019m the member of Parliament for the beautiful Coromandel. We love long weekends in the Coromandel. People come from all over the countryside and they do come and spend time and money in electorates like mine. From my point of view, and for the hospitality and tourist providers in my electorate, that\u2019s a good thing. We welcome that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EBut we all know that those people who do come and spend time and money during a long weekend are usually business people or employees, or they are people who are contributors to our economy elsewhere than just coming to the beautiful Coromandel to buy coffee and have a lovely brunch somewhere around the beautiful electorate of mine. They know that if they are an employee of a manufacturing business, for instance, their employer will be having to pay them as if they were at work that day. So there is a cost\u2014there is a cost to business and there is a cost to us as a society.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s the condescending derision that comes from the Government that I find most difficult to accept on this side. They seem to think that there isn\u2019t an associated cost with it, and they seem to just have no respect or regard for other people\u2019s money. That\u2019s really the big problem with socialism. This is not just about the granting of another public holiday; this goes to the fundamental difference and principle of a socialist Labour Government that actually wants to spend other people\u2019s money with abandon, in a reckless way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ENow, surely it makes sense over the last couple of years to be more prudent and more careful and less reckless with taxpayers\u2019 money. But no, we have a Government that has taken it upon itself to spend more, borrow more, print more money than any Government in the history of this nation\u2014and there have been some justified reasons for that. But no prudence and caution around the impacts not only for us and our generation but for the next generation and the generation that will follow, and it will be our children and grandchildren who end up paying for most of their working life for the spending, borrowing, and printing of money that has occurred over the last couple of years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ESo this is just another example. Yes, great, Matariki\u2014have the public holiday. That\u2019s all good. But at least give some consideration to balancing it out a bit. We have a number of public holidays that maybe have ceased to be relevant in terms of the culture and heritage and understanding of our society. My good friend and colleague Paul Goldsmith suggested in an earlier debate that maybe we consider looking at removing Labour Day. That\u2019s probably something that should at least be considered. I don\u2019t think this Government even considered it. In fact, what we know from the impact statement and speeches and contributions made at earlier stages of this legislation passing through the Parliament\u2014we know that, actually, no consideration has been given by this Government to even thinking about rationalising the range of statutory public holidays in New Zealand. I think that\u2019s an opportunity lost and an opportunity missed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EWhat we do know is that the regulatory impact statement has calculated that something close to half a billion dollars will be the net dollar cost. Now, in the great scheme of things, half a billion dollars on a day\u2019s public holiday may not seem much to the Government. It certainly doesn\u2019t seem much to the finance Minister, Grant Robertson. He\u2019s used to spending much larger amounts of money than that, and he\u2019s addicted to it. He just keeps doing it. But what I\u2019m saying to members of the Government and to anyone that is listening this afternoon is that I think our Government needs to be more careful, more prudent, and more assiduous in terms of deciding how it is that hard-working taxpayers\u2019 finances and money is spent. This is a laudable, good example of a public holiday\u2014don\u2019t have any problem with that at all\u2014but at least some consideration should have been given to a debate, a conversation, consideration of a rationalisation of the number of public statutory holidays we have.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ESo this piece of legislation will be passed by the Government, using its absolute majority in this Parliament. That\u2019s the democracy that we live in, and that\u2019s their right and privilege, for the meantime, to be able to do that. I think that this is just another example of them using that in a way that they see fit. We choose to take a different view. In a democracy, that\u2019s not a bad thing\u2014to have differing views. But what is a bad thing is not having the discussion, not having the debate, and not having the opportunity to at least rationally talk about a range of options that are available to us. That\u2019s the sad thing in our democracy\u2014it\u2019s when there isn\u2019t a debate, there isn\u2019t a discussion. Frankly, far too little discussion on far too many important public issues has been the hallmark of this Government\u2019s administration. Thank goodness it\u2019s coming to an end very shortly. Thank you very much for your time and consideration, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u002238be97e5766149c5b83b0521d78cc341\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002238be97e5766149c5b83b0521d78cc341\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for M\u0101ori Crown Relations: Te Arawhiti):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 ko e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare. He taku h\u014Dnoretanga t\u0113nei ki te t\u016B ki te k\u014Drero m\u014D te pire m\u014D te hararei t\u016Bmatanui m\u014D Matariki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EHei t\u012Bmatanga k\u014Drero m\u0101ku e Rangi t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koe, ko koe te kaihaut\u016B o t\u0113nei kaupapa, n\u0101u nei m\u0101tou o Te K\u0101wanatanga i arataki i roto i t\u0113nei kaupapa. Haramai te \u0101hua o \u014D m\u014Dhioranga, te h\u014Dhonutanga, te wh\u0101nuitanga o \u014D pukenga \u014D m\u014Dhioranga e p\u0101 ana ki t\u0113nei kaupapa, ar\u0101 m\u014D Matariki. Taku tino p\u014Duri kia rongo ai i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero whakah\u0101wea o te \u0100pitihana e p\u0101 ana ki t\u0113nei kaupapa. E ai ki a r\u0101tou he hararei noa iho, engari ko m\u0101tou, ko t\u0101tou he kaupapa nui t\u0113nei hei whakanui i a t\u0101tou o Te Ao M\u0101ori, \u014D t\u0101tou tino t\u016Bpuna, \u014D t\u0101tou tikanga, \u014D t\u0101tou kaupapa, w\u0113r\u0101 t\u016B\u0101huatanga e kore e taea te \u0100pitihana te whakaine kei roto i \u014D r\u0101tou ake whakaaro. N\u0101 reira e Rangi, mihi kau ana ki a koe, mihi kau hoki ki te k\u0101hui i mahi tahi i a koe p\u0113r\u0101 i a Rereata, i a Hoturoa, i a Jack, i a Pauline, i a Victoria, Ruakere, w\u0113r\u0101 tohunga o Te Ao M\u0101ori kei roto o w\u0113nei kaupapa. N\u0101 reira tino ataahua, ng\u0101 mahi n\u0101 koutou i mahia. Kua rongo ahau i t\u0113tahi o te \u0100pitihana e t\u016Bwaharoa ana ki a koe i a au e k\u014Drero ana. T\u0113r\u0101 t\u0113tahi \u0101huatanga o te whakah\u0101wea o te \u0100pitihana ki t\u0113nei kaupapa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EN\u0101u nei i k\u012B mai ki ahau e Rangi, ko t\u0113nei kaupapa he kaupapa hei hokinga maumaharatanga, me hoki whakamuri me whakaaro whakamua hei takat\u016B m\u014D te tau hou e t\u016B mai nei, he w\u0101 hoki t\u0113nei hei \u0101ta noho, hei \u0101ta whakaaro.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira, i runga i w\u0113r\u0101 tikanga o \u014D t\u0101tou t\u016Bpuna e tika ana kia huri ng\u0101 whakaaro ki te tau kua pahure ake nei me r\u0101tou kua wehe atu i a m\u0101tou ar\u0101, ko w\u0113r\u0101 ng\u0101 ingoa i whakahuatia e te tuahine r\u0101, i a Kiritapu ar\u0101 ko te m\u0101m\u0101 o Willie, T\u0101 Harawira Gardiner, ar\u0101 ko Moana w\u0113tahi o r\u0101tou kua huri tuar\u0101 ki a m\u0101tou. He w\u0101 tika kei roto i \u014D t\u0101tou tikanga kia whakaarohia, kia maumaharatia i a r\u0101tou, n\u0101 reira r\u0101tou ki a r\u0101tou ko t\u0101tou ki a t\u0101tou, t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E[Greetings, Mr Speaker. This is my honour to stand and to talk to this bill regarding the Matariki public holiday. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003ETo begin, I acknowledge Rangi, you were the helmsman for the initiative, steering us of the Government through this issue. Your knowledge, the depth, the breadth of your skills, and the knowledge on this subject that is Matariki is unparalleled. I was very saddened to hear the belittling remarks of the Opposition about this initiative. They think this is just a holiday, but for us, for all of us it is a big issue, a celebration of the M\u0101ori World, of our important ancestors, our customary practices, those things that the Opposition cannot measure under their philosophy. Therefore, I acknowledge you, Rangi, and I acknowledge the group that worked with you, those such as Rereata, Hoturoa, Jack, Pauline, Victoria, Ruakere, those experts from the M\u0101ori World in these fields. From that was produced some beautiful work. I heard one of the Opposition yawning at you while I was speaking. That is one feature of the degrading behaviour of the Opposition towards this issue.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003ERangi, you told me that this time is a time to remember, to look back and to look forward and to prepare for the coming New Year, it is also a time for peace and reflection. Therefore, under the practices of our ancestors, it is right that we look back to the previous year and to remember those who have left us, those whose names were spoken by my sister Kiritapu there, the mother of Willie, Sir Harawira Gardiner, and Moana are some of those who have passed on. It is an appropriate time under our customary practice to think about and remember them, and so let the dead be with the dead and let the living be with the living, greetings one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EI would like to start my English contribution in this debate by first of all acknowledging Rangi Matamua, who has been our guide throughout this whole kaupapa of determining how te hararei t\u016Bmatanui o Matariki should go. And one of the things that he was most adamant about through the development of this was that this was not just a holiday; this is about the celebration of us as M\u0101ori\u2014in fact, as us as New Zealanders. This is something unique to Aotearoa that we can revel in, that we can enjoy, that we can use as a nation-building opportunity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EInstead, what we get from the Opposition are words like this\u2014in fact, I\u2019ll quote Harete Hipango, \u201CThe National Party does not diminish the importance of Matariki.\u201D; all we have heard today is the diminishing of Matariki. Paul Goldsmith in his contribution said that this is just throwing treats around. He said, \u201CIt\u2019s just another public holiday.\u201D They haven\u2019t listened to anything that M\u0101ori have said about Matariki. Another member of the Opposition said, \u201CWe will celebrate Matariki but it is a mistake.\u201D Another member of the Opposition said that this is a luxury. These sorts of comments are, as we say in M\u0101ori, whakah\u0101wea. Whakah\u0101wea means to belittle, to despise, to show contempt, to degrade, to undermine, and that is all we have heard from the Opposition\u2014the belittling, the despising, the degrading, and the undermining of something that is really important to M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThey have just reduced it to a commodity\u2014it is all about money. Well, let me tell you what the tourism industry was saying during COVID in the meetings I had with them\u2014listen up. The hospitality and the tourism industries were actually asking for more three-day weekends, because they know that when there are three-day weekends, people do travel around the country, they do spend, and it does grow the economy. But the Opposition, of course, are in denial, because in their minds this is all about money and a day off. They haven\u2019t listened to anything that M\u0101ori have said.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220e88723585484240b4fdff4fc11844a3\u0022\u003ESimon Watts\u003C/span\u003E: No, you\u2019re not listening.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226348e6555583400ebf2ca7b1a0627999\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: That member over there, who has nothing to say other than stupidity, needs to stand up and talk to M\u0101ori, go into our context, our spaces, our places, and hear what it actually means to M\u0101oridom. This whole country doesn\u2019t just run on P\u0101keh\u0101 time. This is about us as a nation doing something together and enjoying and lifting up M\u0101oridom, our tikanga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003ESimon O\u2019Connor, in his speech earlier, was probably one of the worst. One of the things he said was that we shouldn\u2019t use Matariki because it\u2019s a M\u0101ori name. He explored the use of the term \u201Cthe seven sisters\u201D\u2014because a M\u0101ori name is not good enough for Matariki but an English term is. Then he played around with \u201CPleiades\u201D\u2014I think is the word. So a M\u0101ori word is not good enough to use; English: maybe. But then he said he wants to use a Greek term because we can all relate to Greek mythology and the Greek gods\u2014that it\u2019s so important to us. Here\u2019s the clincher: then he said maybe we could use\u2014and I think this must be a scientific name\u2014Messier 45, and sounds messy too when he\u2019s saying it. He said it is a name that is more neutral.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThis shows how much contempt the National Party has for anything M\u0101ori. They want to neutralise our culture, our tikanga, our kaupapa. How can any member of Parliament stand here and say, \u201CHow about using this as a neutral name?\u201D, neutralising M\u0101ori tikanga, M\u0101ori language, M\u0101ori kaupapa? That does describe the attitude of the National Party, yet Harete Hipango said the National Party does not diminish the importance of Matariki. They all then set about diminishing everything about Matariki. They don\u2019t want to use the M\u0101ori name. They want to just talk about it being a public holiday as if it\u2019s just\u2014takahia kia noa, takahia kia noa [just belittle it, just belittle it].\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThey don\u2019t want to celebrate anything that\u2019s M\u0101ori. But they want to stand in the M\u0101ori seats, of course, so we hear\u2014they want to stand in the M\u0101ori seats. I\u2019m looking forward to that. I\u2019m looking forward to holding their track record up against them when they stand in the M\u0101ori seats, and this belittling of Matariki is just another example of the track record of the National Party, having nothing good to say about, and no support whatsoever for, anything that\u2019s M\u0101ori, and it\u2019s a disgrace on them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EBut let\u2019s come back to Matariki and what we\u2019re all going to enjoy on 24 June. There is going to be a build-up to the day. There is going to be a celebration down here at Te Papa. It is going to be a celebration for all New Zealanders and I invite the National Party to come down and be part of something that\u2019s bigger than their narrow minds and their narrow thinking.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003EThis is going to be something that in years to come is going to grow. It\u2019s going to become even better and a greater part of what is Aotearoa New Zealand\u2019s culture and history, and I\u2019m very proud to be part of a Government this has finally recognised a day that we can celebrate as a country but a day that is definitely M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u0022749f13c65bca4dd08d83fd115da201de\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022749f13c65bca4dd08d83fd115da201de\u0022\u003ETEANAU TUIONO (Green) (remote):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te P\u012Bka, otir\u0101 t\u0113n\u0101 koutou i te Whare. \u2018Matariki t\u0101puapua. Matariki ahunga nui. Matariki hunga nui\u2019. N\u014Dku an\u014D te whiwhi ki te mihi atu ki t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 ture, t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 pire m\u014D Te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o Matariki, me te oranga on\u014D kei te aro an\u014D t\u014D t\u0101tou, he hararei an\u014D e whakanui atu i t\u014D t\u0101tou nei ao M\u0101ori, e whakanui ana i t\u014D t\u0101tou m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori me \u014Dna oranga katoa. Ehara t\u0113nei e p\u0113r\u0101 ki a Kirihimete, ki te Aranga, i te mea n\u014D t\u0101wahi k\u0113 \u0113r\u0101 hararei, n\u0101 reira t\u0113nei hararei i tipu ake me t\u014Dna m\u0101tauranga taketake, i tipu ake ki konei ki Aotearoa. N\u014D reira, e tautoko ana m\u0101tou ng\u0101 K\u0101k\u0101riki ki t\u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EHe nui ng\u0101 akoranga i ahu mai i ng\u0101 whet\u016B o Matariki. I rongo au i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero m\u014D te whet\u016B o Wait\u012B, t\u0113r\u0101 whet\u016B e aro ana ki ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga o te wai M\u0101ori. Ng\u0101 k\u014Drero m\u014D Wait\u0101 t\u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 whet\u016B e aro ana ki kohinga kai ki te wai tai ki te moana. Heoi, i a au e haere ana ki te motu ki ng\u0101 hui o Matariki ki roto i ng\u0101 tau, i t\u012Bmata \u0113ra momo hui me te, \u0101, ki raro i te tirohanga o P\u014Dhutukawa, te whet\u016B i whakaarohia ki a r\u0101tou m\u0101 kua whet\u016Brangihia, kua whet\u016Brangihia p\u0113r\u0101 i te k\u0101hui o Matariki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira i te p\u0101nuitanga tuarua i t\u0113r\u0101 wiki i mihi au ki Kahurangi June Jackson, e mihi au ki T\u0101 Wira Gardiner, heoi ki roto i te wiki kua pahure ake kua hinga t\u0113r\u0101 o t\u0101tou Te Moana-nui-a-Kiwa Jackson, ki a Moana Jackson. Ko ia t\u0113tahi e kaha ki te whakatinanahia i ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga o te tino rangatiratanga me te mana motuhake. Me te mea an\u014D i taka mai t\u0113r\u0101 m\u0101tauranga mai i t\u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga, n\u014D reira me mihi atu ki a ia, ka tika. T\u0113 taea e au, k\u012Bhai au i whai w\u0101 ki te haere atu n\u014D taratahi ki t\u014Dku k\u0101inga ki raro i ng\u0101 waeture o te Kowheori, heoi an\u014D ko t\u0101ku ng\u0101kau ki reira. I a t\u0101tou e whakaaro ana ki ng\u0101 akoranga i ahu mai i a P\u014Dhutukawa, i a t\u0101tou e whakaaro ana ki te hunga kua pahure ake me whai whakaaro an\u014D ki ng\u0101 akoranga i waiho mai r\u0101tou ki a t\u0101tou, te hunga ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EI p\u0113r\u0101 ana a Moana Jackson i te w\u0101 i te ora. I p\u0113r\u0101 ana ia i te w\u0101 o te hinga, i a ia e t\u012Braha ana ki tana marae ki Matahiwi. Kei te aro Te Ao M\u0101ori ki \u014Dna \u014Dh\u0101k\u012B, \u014Dh\u0101k\u012B e rua. Te tuatahi kia kaua e hareruia Karaitiana ki t\u014Dna tangihanga, kia kaua karakia te kaikarakia karaitiana ki t\u014Dna tangi me te aro i \u014D t\u0101tou nei whakaaro ki \u014D t\u0101tou nei \u0101tua M\u0101ori. Me te mea an\u014D me whai whakaaro, me \u0101hei te wahine ki te t\u016B ki te marae. N\u014D reira me mihi atu au ki t\u0113ra o ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga. Me p\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tou ki roto i ng\u0101 tau kei te haere mai, ng\u0101 akoranga i waiho ake mai p\u0113r\u0101 ki a Moana Jackson ki a t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003ENo reira, i a au e aro ana ki ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga ki t\u0113r\u0101 marae ko te wahine tuatahi i t\u016B ki runga i te marae, ko te Minita i h\u0113para ana t\u0113nei pire i t\u0113nei w\u0101, n\u014D reira e mihi atu au ki te H\u014Dnore a Kiritapu Allen, n\u0101na noa i k\u014Dkirihia t\u0113nei pire ki roto o ng\u0101 tukanga o te P\u0101remata, n\u014Dna noa te h\u014Dnore ki te t\u016B ki te tuku whaik\u014Drero ki te marae \u0101tea ki te Matahiwi marae, otir\u0101 t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D ki t\u014D m\u0101tou nei rangatira a Marama Davidson, t\u014D m\u0101tou nei rangatira wahine i whai w\u0101hi ia ki te t\u016B ki runga i taua marae. Ko te manako n\u014Dku nei kia kaua t\u0113r\u0101 momo tikanga hoki ki te moe. Kia oho tonu t\u0113r\u0101 tikanga i te mea i a t\u0101tou e hoki an\u014D ki \u014D t\u0101tou nei akoranga mai \u014D m\u0101tou t\u012Bpuna kua m\u014Dhio k\u0113 t\u0101tou kua p\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D te mana o te wahine, n\u014D reira, ko Moana Jackson p\u0113r\u0101 i te w\u0101 i te ora, i p\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D i te w\u0101 o te mate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira te p\u0101p\u0101 Moana Jackson, haere atu r\u0101, haere atu r\u0101, haere atu ki t\u014D tuakana Syd, haere atu r\u0101 ki a Eva, ki Te Miringa, ki a p\u0101p\u0101 Niko Tangaroa, r\u0101tou an\u014D i pup\u016B ake t\u0113r\u0101 whakaaro o te tino rangatiratanga i waiho ake i roto i Te Tiriti o Waitangi, me t\u014Dna tuakana He Whakaputanga i hainatia e \u014D t\u0101tou nei m\u0101tua t\u012Bpuna i te tau 1835, ng\u0101 tau e rima i mua i te hainatanga o Te Tiriti o Waitangi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EIn\u0101ianei i a au, i a m\u0101tou o te Komiti Whiri Take M\u0101ori t\u014Dna t\u0113nei waimarie i haere mai T\u0101kuta Rangi Matamua ki te k\u014Drero i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki te oranga o t\u0113nei ture, \u014Dna piringa ki roto i o t\u0101tou nei taiao, i te mea ehara t\u0113nei i te hararei noa, kei te tautoko au i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero i k\u014Drerohia i mua i a au. He hararei o te maumahara ki te hunga kua wehe atu, heoi an\u014D he hararei kia whakanui te noho o te tangata ki roto i te taiao, te noho o te tangata me \u014Dna piringa ki te taiao. I te w\u0101 o \u014D t\u0101tou nei t\u016Bpuna, i kaha r\u0101tou ki te whai i ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga te whakatere moana, tae atu r\u0101 ki te p\u0101nui i ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga o ng\u0101 whet\u016B. I p\u0101nuihia i \u0101hei r\u0101tou ki te whai i ng\u0101 tohu ki roto i te taiao m\u014D te h\u012B ika, te w\u0101hi an\u014D m\u014D te hauhake m\u0101ra.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira, ko Rangi Matamua t\u0113r\u0101 i k\u014Dkirihia n\u014D reira me mihi atu au ki te katoa o t\u014Dna ohu, ki a Rereata M\u0101kiha, ki a Hoturoa, ki a Jack Thatcher, ki a Ruakere Hond, Pauline Harris me Victoria Campbell. N\u0101 \u0113ra momo pukenga, o \u0113r\u0101 momo pukumahi ka whai oranga t\u0113nei ture ki roto i \u014Dna \u0101huatanga katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EI a au e whakarongo ana ki ng\u0101 k\u014Drero he nui ng\u0101 oranga ki roto i ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga a te takiw\u0101, i te mea, m\u0113n\u0101 kei te aro t\u0101tou ki \u014D t\u0101tou nei wh\u0101nau ki Taranaki kei raro i te maru o te maunga t\u012Bt\u014Dhea kei te whai r\u0101tou i te whet\u016B o Puanga \u014D t\u0101tou nei whanauka m\u0101 t\u0113tahi atu m\u0101ka ki te Ng\u0101i Tahu ko Puaka t\u0113r\u0101 i whai r\u0101tou. He tikanga an\u014D ki te N\u014Dta i te mea he rerek\u0113 te taiao ki ia takiw\u0101. N\u014D reira, ki roto i t\u0113r\u0101 ka taea te whakapakari t\u014D t\u0101tou nei tuakiri \u0101-rohe, t\u014D t\u0101tou tuakiri \u0101-taiwhenua. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EM\u0101 runga i t\u0113r\u0101 ko te t\u016Bmanako ka whai w\u0101hi ka taea ki te t\u016Bruhi haere, ko te t\u0101poi haere ki roto i ng\u0101 takiw\u0101 puta noa i a Aotearoa ki te ako i \u014D r\u0101tou nei tikanga, te ako i \u014D r\u0101tou nei p\u016Br\u0101kau, te ako i \u014D r\u0101tou nei piringa ki te taiao. He oranga an\u014D t\u0113r\u0101 m\u014D t\u0101tou katoa, M\u0101ori mai, Tauiwi mai kia m\u0101rama an\u014D he aha te h\u012Btori kei raro ng\u0101 rekereke o t\u0101tou nei waewae, kei reira to oranga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EI a au e whakarongo ana ki \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 k\u014Drero mai i \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 mema o Te P\u0101remata, k\u0101ore i te pai ki t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 pire, me p\u0113nei ana taku nei k\u014Drero ki a r\u0101tou. Me wh\u0101nui te tirotiro, me wh\u0101nui te aronga. Me wh\u0101nui t\u014D t\u0101tou nei whakaaro m\u014D te tuakiri o t\u014D t\u0101tou nei motu wh\u0101nui, i te mea he ao an\u014D kei tua i te h\u014Dhonu o te p\u016Bkoro. He ao an\u014D kei tua i t\u0113nei mea te p\u016Btea. He ao an\u014D kei tua i t\u0113nei mea te kohi moni. M\u0101 runga i t\u0113r\u0101 taha ka taea e t\u0101tou te r\u0101rangi i ng\u0101 ahurea katoa o t\u0101tou e noho ana, e karangahia ko Aotearoa ko t\u0101tou nei k\u0101inga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EHeoi, ki te ora an\u014D t\u0113nei \u0101huatanga ki roto i \u014D t\u0101tou nei kura me kaha Te T\u0101huhu o Te M\u0101tauranga ki te hoatu ng\u0101 rauemi, i rongo k\u014Drero au kua t\u012Bmata t\u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 mahi n\u014D reira me kaha ki te h\u0101pai i te \u0101hei o ng\u0101 pouako ki te whakanunui i \u0113nei m\u0101tauranga i te mea, m\u014D \u0113tahi, he hou \u0113nei k\u014Drero. N\u0101 t\u0101tou i haere ana ki ng\u0101 Kura Kaupapa M\u0101ori, \u014D t\u0101tou nei tamariki ki ng\u0101 Kura Kaupapa M\u0101ori, kua roa te w\u0101 i whakanui ana m\u0101tou, otir\u0101 t\u0101tou pea i ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga o Matariki. He mea tauhou ki \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 Kura Auraki, n\u014D reira, te mea nui me t\u012Bmata me ng\u0101 tamariki mokopuna, me t\u012Bmata me ng\u0101 rangatahi. Me hoatu ng\u0101 rauemi ki ng\u0101 Kura Auraki mai, M\u0101ori mai, kia puaki t\u0113r\u0101 whakaaro.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EHeoi an\u014D m\u0113n\u0101 kei te whakaaro t\u0101tou i ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga o Matariki kei roto i te horopaki o te huringa o te \u0101huarangi, kei roto i te horopaki me te m\u014Dhio ko t\u0101tou te hunga tangata he w\u0101hanga noa iho o te ao wh\u0101nui, he w\u0101hanga an\u014D ki t\u014D t\u0101tou taiao, n\u014D reira me m\u0101tua m\u014Dhio mai t\u0101tou ko t\u0113nei he ara kia ako te piringa o te tangata ki te whenua, te piringa o te tangata ki te awa, te piringa o te tangata ki te maunga, te piringa o te tangata ki te katoa o te hunga e noho ana ki te ngahere, n\u014D reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E[Greetings, Mr Speaker, and to all of you in the House. The pools of Matariki. The great mounds of Matariki. Matariki of many people. I once again am fortunate to be able to acknowledge this law, this bill regarding the Matariki public holiday, with the satisfaction that it focuses on\u2014it is a holiday that celebrates our M\u0101ori world and our M\u0101ori knowledge with all its benefits. This is not like Christmas or Easter, because those holidays came from overseas, but this holiday with its associated traditional wisdom developed here, in New Zealand. Therefore, The Greens support that aspect.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EThere is much to be learnt about the stars of Matariki. I heard the stories about the star Wait\u012B, which is concerned with fresh water. The stories of Wait\u0101, the star concerned with the collection of food from salt water, from the sea. However, as I travelled around the country to gatherings for Matariki, those sorts of gatherings began with the observation of P\u014Dhutukawa, the star thought of in relation to those who have become stars in the heavens like the Matariki cluster.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EIn the second reading last week, I acknowledged Dame June Jackson and Sir Wira Gardiner; however, in the past week, Te Moana-nui-a-Kiwa Jackson, known as Moana Jackson, has also fallen. He was one who was committed to the realisation of sovereignty and independence. He has also increased our knowledge about these things, therefore I must acknowledge him. I wasn\u2019t able to attend as I was isolating at home under the COVID regulations; however, my heart was there. As we think about what P\u014Dhutukawa can teach us, as we think about those who have passed away we should also be mindful of what we, the living, can learn. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EMoana Jackson was like that when he was alive. He was also like that in death, as he was lying at his marae, Matahiwi. The M\u0101ori World is cognisant of his dying wishes, his two dying wishes. Firstly, there should be no Christian hallelujahs at his funeral, there should be no Christian prayers at his funeral, with the focus on our M\u0101ori gods. And also, we should be attentive and allow women to speak on the marae. Therefore, I must acknowledge that aspect. That should continue in the years to come, the learning left for us by the likes of Moana Jackson.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003ETherefore, as I look at the functions on that marae, the first woman to speak on the marae was the Minister who is currently shepherding this bill, therefore I acknowledge the Hon Kiritapu Allen, who has progressed this bill through the parliamentary processes and who had the honour to stand and deliver a formal speech on the marae at Matahiwi, also acknowledgments should go the Hon Marama Davidson, our female co-leader who also took the opportunity to speak on that marae. My desire is that that practice should not go back to sleep. That practice should be kept alive because as we return to the learning passed down from our ancestors we already know that that woman possessed authority, so Moana Jackson continued to teach us in death as he had in life.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003ESo to my uncle Moana Jackson, may you rest in peace beside you brother Syd, go to Eva, to Te Miringa, to uncle Niko Tangaroa, those who kept the thinking about sovereignty at the forefront, that was left in the Treaty of Waitangi and its older sibling the Declaration of Independence, which was signed in 1835, five years prior to the Treaty of Waitangi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EAs we of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee were lucky enough to have Dr Rangi Matamua come along to talk to us about the benefits of this law, its connections to our environment, for this isn\u2019t just a holiday and I support those speakers who spoke before me. It is a holiday to remember those who have passed; however, it is also a holiday to celebrate the place of people within the environment, the place of people and their connections to the environment. In the times of our ancestors, they were keen sailors which read the features of the stars. They were read so they were able to follow the signs in the environment regarding fishing and harvesting the gardens.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003ETherefore, Rangi Matamua is the one who drove this forward, so I must acknowledge him and I must also acknowledge his working party, Rereata M\u0101kiha, Hoturoa, Jack Thatcher, Ruakere Hond, Pauline Harris, and Victoria Campbell. It is through their skill and hard work that this law holds many benefits in all its aspects.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EAs I was listening to the stories, there were many benefits related to the different regions because, if we look at our family in Taranaki at the base of the barren mountain, they follow the star Rigel, and for our relations in Ng\u0101i Tahu, they also follow Rigel. It is a different practice in the North because each region is different. Therefore, this means we are able to strengthen our regional identities, our rural identities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EWith this in mind, the hope is that opportunities will be taken to travel around to the different regions all over New Zealand, to learn their practices, and to learn their stories and their connections to the environment. There are benefits there for all of us, Ma\u014Dri and Tauiwi, to understand what the history is underneath our heels, there is the benefit.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EAs I was listening to some of the comments from some members of this Parliament who do not like this bill, this is what I have to say to them. Broaden your gaze, broaden your focus. We must all broaden our thinking about the identity of our country at large because there is another world beyond a deep pocket. There is another world beyond that of finance. There is another world beyond making money. It is with this we are able to align all the cultures living in New Zealand and who call it home.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EHowever, if this initiative is to gain traction in our schools, the Ministry of Education must be forthright in resourcing, it is my understanding that work has begun, therefore we need to support the enablement of teachers to expand on the knowledge because, for some, this is new information. For us who went to M\u0101ori immersion schools, or for those of us whose children attend those schools, we have been observing Matariki for a long time. This is totally new for some of the mainstream schools, therefore the main thing is we must start with the children and the grandchildren, we must start with the young people. We must give those resources to both mainstream schools and M\u0101ori schools so that idea can be manifested.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EHowever, if we look at Matariki in the context of climate change, in the context and knowledge that we, as a group of people, are only a part of the wider world, a part of our environment, we should first realise that this is a way of learning about the connection of people to the land, the connection of people to the rivers, the connection of people to the mountains, the connection of people to all of our biodiversity. Therefore, greetings one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022 data-id=\u00220407e25da2fd4e1699a0d34692dc8aa4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220407e25da2fd4e1699a0d34692dc8aa4\u0022\u003ECHRIS BAILLIE (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I rise on behalf of ACT to take a short call on the third reading of Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill, a bill we don\u2019t support, not because we don\u2019t think it\u2019s a great initiative, a great idea, but only because the country just simply can\u2019t afford it. I say short call because I know this bill is going to go through today, and the ideology of this Government will once again take precedence over common-sense, basic economics. And even a slight understanding of the effects on businesses of these continued attacks just make it so difficult to make a living for businesses to pay their staff and just survive.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003ELast week, I read out a letter from a refrigeration company, which said, that they are increasing their fees due to inflation, minimum wage increases, and the cost of fuel over the last year. I got another one last Friday; it says, \u201CEvery endeavour has been made to hold to our current pricing. The time has finally arrived where we are unable to do so any longer, and, regretfully, an increase of 5.9 percent will take effect from 1 April. The recently announced statutory adult minimum wage increase, raising it from $20 to $21.20 has meant an additional increase to our services where the majority of our labour force will fall into the new bracket.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003EThese things are real. They\u2019re not just made-up names that people use to justify an argument. To hear the rhetoric coming from all Labour MPs, having learnt from the grand master Grant Robertson that everything\u2019s fine, businesses are being looked after, added costs, minimum wage, extra holidays, extra sick days\u2014but what doesn\u2019t actually affect them, just makes those who actually have businesses and business experience and going through the pain, shake their heads in disbelief.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003ELast week, we got a lecture from a Labour backbencher who said that some businesses will find it tough, but that what they don\u2019t understand is that while they have to pay more on the minimum wage, those people will go out and spend the extra money in the community. It\u2019s just so simplistic and just so wrong. If she was still in business, I know she\u2019d have a different view.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003EKiri Allan told us during the committee stage that businesses actually wanted the extra holiday, wanted to pay time and a half, wanted to pay a day in lieu, were rapt about the extra KiwiSaver costs, and wanted to not be able to trade. I suspect she spoke to a tourism operator in Gisborne and not the retailers who will be forced to pay this extra without any extra income.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003EACT thinks it\u2019s a great idea to celebrate Matariki, a very significant event and an occasion that certainly deserves its own special day. The cost of recreating a 12th public holiday is estimated to be around $450 million. ACT believes that if the Government wants to indulge in another holiday, it needs to identify a holiday to be removed from the calendar. I thought I\u2019d quickly go through the options.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003ENew Year\u2019s Day\u2014the start of the year; that\u2019s pretty significant. Then there\u2019s the day after New Year\u2019s Day\u2014maybe for those who enjoyed New Year\u2019s Eve too much. Are we going to have a day after Matariki? Waitangi Day\u2014a highly significant day, where we all agreed that all citizens of New Zealand have the same political rights and duties. Then we have Good Friday and Easter Monday, a Christian celebration. It\u2019s interesting\u2014I wonder how many Labour MPs took an affirmation and not the oath on the Bible. We have Anzac Day, to me the most important, relevant, and meaningful, where the New Zealand armed forces, including more than 2,000 M\u0101ori in the Pioneer Battalion joined the rest of the world against a common foe. Then we have Labour Day. It\u2019s been celebrated in New Zealand since 1890, when, in 1840, builder Samuel Parnell won an eight-hour day in Wellington\u2014quite an achievement. Then we go to Christmas day. It\u2019s relevant to our Christian community. And Boxing Day, which dates back hundreds of years, where a Christmas box was given to workers by those who could afford it. That\u2019s a nice idea but is it really relevant today?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003EThen we get to the Anniversary Days, celebrating the settling of our districts throughout New Zealand. This year, Auckland had their Anniversary Day six days before the Waitangi holiday. Hawke\u2019s Bay this year will have their Anniversary Day a week after school holidays. Nelson was also on 31 January, just a week before Waitangi, and it\u2019s a real nuisance for schools starting the year, very unsettling. So maybe they can go. Or maybe we replace them with other very significant events in our history. Maybe replace Nelson Anniversary Day with Te Rauparaha\u2019s clashes with Rangit\u0101ne or Ng\u0101ti Kuia in 1827. We need an accurate history of New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003EACT appreciates the significance of Matariki for all New Zealanders. The use of the stars in the migration of M\u0101ori to New Zealand around 800 years ago is of great significance and really should be taught in school history classes. Abel Tasman used the same stars about 400 years later, along with James Cook after that, and they were used in the migration of all cultures to this beautiful country. What a fantastic story we have to tell.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003EI\u2019ll finish with a quote from a man who did more for M\u0101ori than anyone in this House will ever do and who I\u2019m sure would have welcomed the acknowledgment of Matariki. The late historian Michael King said, \u201CP\u0101keh\u0101 New Zealanders who are committed to this land and its people are no less \u2018indigenous\u2019 than M\u0101ori.\u201D All New Zealanders will celebrate Matariki on 24 June, including ACT, but we can\u2019t support this bill. Thank you, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022 data-id=\u00222514d22374a94d43b3b21a2da3e353b9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222514d22374a94d43b3b21a2da3e353b9\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Housing):\u003C/span\u003E There are very few points in New Zealand history when this House has come to consider the days on which we will mark our nationhood. We can point to 1899, when this House made a decision to honour Labour Day as a public holiday. We can point to 1920, when this House decided that Anzac Day was a day befitting of a public holiday to mark out who we are as a people. We can point to 1973, when this House decided that Waitangi Day, 6 February, was a line and a mark in the sand that we should put, as a nation, to mark out who we are as a people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003EI find it deeply saddening that, given the opportunity, this House cannot lift\u2014on the other side of the House\u2014the debate beyond squabbling over the issues of the day: of the minimum wage increases, of the cost of fuel brought on by a war in Ukraine. What we are debating here is about marking out who we are as a people in 21st century New Zealand. I am immensely proud that we as a Government are doing this; we are taking the time to consider what it means to be a New Zealander in the 21st century.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003EBy training, I am a New Zealand historian, and I value that education that I received. At school, I learnt about Tudor and Stuart Britain: good knowledge and an education I am pleased I received. But one of the things I am so pleased about is that this Government has taken the moves to ensure that New Zealanders at school will learn their own history. And celebrating Matariki is an important part of acknowledging the unique place in which we live here in Aotearoa, located in the Pacific, where we pay our respects to the land, where we pay our respects to the people, and where we pay our respects to our history.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003EIt is a time for us to reflect\u2014traditionally, Matariki was a time for planting and planning activities\u2014for valuing our past, and, importantly, preparing for our future. I think us given a chance as a Chamber to put into legislation\u2014into the statute book\u2014a day when we cannot only celebrate our past but plan for our future is something that we have a duty as parliamentarians to take the debate up a notch on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003EWhat we\u2019ve had is cries from the National Party to have a more neutral day. They want to have a more neutral name\u2014that Matariki somehow is loaded; it is not neutral. So what we have heard from Simon O\u2019Connor is that we should indeed look to the name of an 18th century French astronomer to name this day after\u2014this would be more fitting for a country at the bottom of the South Pacific celebrating a day rooted in the Polynesian traditions of the stars; this somehow would be more fitting.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003EAs a footnote, I think it is important to note that not only did Messier also give the name to the star cluster but he also, in 1769, published what today would probably be called a hagiography memoir where he was attempting to curry favour with the emperor at the time\u2014Napoleon\u2014when he linked the sighting of the great comet with the birth of the emperor. A neutral name in New Zealand? This is more relevant to us as a nation in 20th century Aotearoa New Zealand? This is where the National Party have taken the debate. They\u2019ve also said that not only should we name it after 18th century French astronomers or that we should name it according to Greek traditions rather than our own M\u0101ori and Polynesian traditions\u2014that somehow that is more relevant for us as a nation here in Aotearoa\u2014but they\u2019ve also shown just how small-minded they can be.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003ELet\u2019s have a look at the facts. This is way more than a holiday, and I want to acknowledge the k\u014Drero that my colleague Kelvin Davis had about this. We cannot reduce this to just being about a holiday, in the same way that Waitangi Day becoming a holiday on 6 February was not just about a holiday and a day off. It was a stake in the ground of who we are as a people and what we choose to celebrate. We do not begrudge other nations with their national days. I have never heard the National Party begrudge Independence Day in the United States\u2014a day that is important to that nation for reasons within itself. And that is what this is about: days that are important to us as a nation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003EBut I think we all know that New Zealanders could do with another public holiday in winter. We do have a much-needed gap in that midwinter area, where it will be important not only for people\u2019s wellbeing but also for the economy. I think one of the things where we\u2019ve heard ACT and we\u2019ve heard National railing is that the sky is going to fall in from an economic perspective. I ask them to look at some evidence, to look at the facts; let\u2019s have a look at how we figure within the OECD for public holidays. Well, we are in the low to middle range for public holidays, with 18 countries having more than us and 12 countries having fewer. So I do not think this makes us an outlier\u2014that we are still only, at best, in the low to middle of the pack of the countries to which we would compare ourselves in terms of public holidays.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003EWe also can see the analysis that accompanies this bill is that, actually, this could indeed have a net benefit impact on the economy, because public holidays are when people go on holiday, public holidays are when people tend to go out, and public holidays are when people tend to spend money. So let\u2019s have a grown-up conversation about this. Let\u2019s think about who we are as a people, who we are as a nation, and not belittle this House and the opportunities that it gets only every few decades to consider matters such as this and nationhood.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003EI\u2019ve really enjoyed the \u201Clet\u2019s sub it out\u201D game that we\u2019ve seen from the National Party and ACT on this. So Labour Day, according to many members of the National Party, is no longer relevant. Obviously, the fact that we celebrate working people, the fact that we celebrate the eight-hour day, the fact that we celebrate those crucial wins\u2014that\u2019s not relevant anymore; that is not relevant! We\u2019ve heard from ACT that maybe we could take New Year\u2019s Day or the day after, and I thought Paul Goldsmith got dangerously close to literally being the Grinch and suggesting Christmas in his contribution to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003EI do not think that the Opposition parties have given this bill the serious debate that it deserves. It will be a shame and a blot on this House when people come to read the Hansard of the debate around this. When we look at the Hansard around the establishment of Anzac Day, I may not agree with everything that was said in those debates, but I read those speeches and respect them for the thought that had gone into them. When I read the speeches around the establishment of Waitangi Day, or New Zealand Day, as it was called\u2014the debates in 1973\u2014again, I do not agree with everything that was said in those debates, but I do not see people not taking it seriously and not giving it the due regard that it requires. Lifting the debate after whether or not we are going to steal Labour Day and whether or not we would rather name the day after an 18th century astronomer is not befitting of our nation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022 data-id=\u002279ec21b1f0234192bb1210e5bc32b16f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002279ec21b1f0234192bb1210e5bc32b16f\u0022\u003ESIMON WATTS (National\u2014North Shore):\u003C/span\u003E On behalf of National and as a member of Parliament for North Shore, it is my pleasure to take a short call on the Matariki public holiday bill today. I want to say, just first up, that National very much support, in concept, having a Matariki public holiday. The M\u0101ori New Year and a celebration of that special day for all New Zealanders is an important opportunity for us as a country to come together and honour some of our important history for all New Zealanders. This holiday, obviously, honours how M\u0101ori navigated using the stars back in the past in order to come to this great country, and we acknowledge the importance of this public holiday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022\u003EAs a father of two young boys, both at primary school, I enjoy, along with my wife, the much involvement that they have with this holiday at their school and the other celebrations that we have in our local community of the North Shore around this day. So I want to make it very clear that the concept of Matariki as a public holiday is a concept that we support. However, the challenge that we have, and we are opposing this bill, is for the reason that the party of this Government on that side of the House has not been able to tell us what they will do or take away instead of this. The simple reason is because New Zealand has been, and is currently, going through a significant economic shock as a result of COVID-19. And if you separate the concept that we should have a public holiday for Matariki, which I said the National Party supports, the conversation then leads to how do we effect that change? And the challenge that we have put on the table is the cost of this public holiday, to the economy and to businesses in New Zealand, is in the region of just under half a billion dollars at a time when our economy is under significant pressure.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022\u003EA couple of weeks ago, Minister Robertson and Minister Nash received a letter from Mark Wilson, the owner of The Grange in Takapuna. It was on behalf of 450 businesses nationwide across this country who employ nearly 10,000 people in the hospitality sector. Mark wrote a letter on behalf of those individuals because they are all struggling. The hospitality sector is struggling significantly because this Government has not supported them. They have left them out in the cold and they continue to do so today. And the cost of this public holiday, in absence of taking another one away or finding the savings from business somewhere else\u2014such as reducing the cost burden that has been placed by this Government on them\u2014places the cost of this holiday squarely at the feet of our business community. And while we support the public holiday, we do not support increasing costs and increasing burden on our business community. Why? Because they are hurting and they employ hard-working Kiwis in this country and do not deserve that extra burden right now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022\u003ESo what we have simply asked the Government to do is to identify what other public holiday they will take away to replace this. We support that. We would work, absolutely, with the Government in order to come up with that process. But you don\u2019t get anything for free. There is a cost to adding one additional day. So, quite simply, take another one away and everyone would be happy. But this Government has failed to take any accountability around making that decision. It is easy to spend money, but it is very difficult to make it, and that side of the House have no idea in terms of the pressures that our business community are currently under\u2014and particularly our hospitality sector.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022\u003EI want to go back to that letter to Minister Robertson and Minister Nash. Their reply to those 450 businesses was a copy-and-paste letter from both of them. The letters from both of those offices was pretty much similar, in a copy and paste, and Minister Nash even attached an attachment which was some mental health phone numbers that the businesses might wish to consider if they were suffering from stress and anxiety as a result of financial pressure on these businesses. That is completely unacceptable. It is completely out of touch, and it shows that this Government on that side of the House has no appreciation for the pain and agony that many Kiwis in our country are currently facing as a result of failure by that Government to take action when it really counts. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022\u003EAnd so what we are talking about today\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u00229304073ee3d8428ea9ad6bb597f9b466\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229304073ee3d8428ea9ad6bb597f9b466\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! The member\u2019s time has expired.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022 data-id=\u00224236e4e0d2384b3a802f6681cce7298f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224236e4e0d2384b3a802f6681cce7298f\u0022\u003ERAWIRI WAITITI (Co-Leader\u2014Te Paati M\u0101ori) (remote):\u003C/span\u003E K\u014Dk\u014Dmako, k\u014Dk\u014Dmako. Ko te hau tapu e rite ki te kai n\u0101 Matariki. Tapa reireia koia tapa tapa konunua koiana tukua, h\u012B au\u0113 h\u012B. Ko Matariki te kait\u014D i te hunga pakeke ki te p\u014D\u2014Matariki draws the frail into the endless night.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EE te tokotoru, T\u0101 Wira, Te Kahurangi Temuranga Jackson, T\u0101kuta Moana Jackson. Whoatu r\u0101 koutou ki te p\u014D e t\u014Dia ai e Matariki. Waiho m\u0101tou ki muri nei e takitaki ana i te hau tapu e \u014D nei te hau k\u0101inga. K\u0101ti ake.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E[To the three of you, Sir Wira, Dame Te Kahurangi Temuranga Jackson, and Dr Moana Jackson. Go ahead into the night, drawn by Matariki. Leave us behind to recite in the hautapu ceremony as the response from home. Enough.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EWhat a momentous occasion this is for Aotearoa. Since the first celebrated public holiday, which was an anniversary day in 1843, it\u2019s only taken 180-odd years to have a day that celebrates the essence of what it is to be M\u0101ori. I celebrate this kaupapa as a policy win for Te Paati M\u0101ori. I congratulate the Hon Kiritapu Allan and Labour and their courage to achieve this outcome. It is still a shameful stain on this country that M\u0101ori kaupapa or m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori is still too brown or too native to acknowledge.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EE te whanaunga e Rangi, n\u0101 koutou te hinu o t\u0113nei pire i tunu kia maoa. Hotu, Jacko, Ruakere, Rereata, Victoria, Pauline, nei r\u0101 a Autahi ngutu t\u0101peru e t\u0101rake mai nei, e mihi nei. Ko Matariki te whet\u016B e arataki e!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E [To my relation Rangi, all of you have prepared and cooked this bill, like a game bird, to perfection. Hotu, Jacko, Ruakere, Rereata, Victoria, Pauline, this is Canopus of the pouting lips, shining alone, paying tribute. Matariki will guide you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EMatariki will guide you. Matariki is an annual reset, therefore an opportunity for our country to reset our nation\u2019s compass. It allows us to acknowledge our past to inform our future. We have a huge window of opportunity to look at a more progressive, equitable, and equal future for Aotearoa. As Matariki prepares to reveal what the coming year may have in store for us, our nation\u2019s reset is imperative. It is time for constitutional reset, for constitutional transformation that is rooted in the binding contract that is Te Tiriti o Waitangi. This will not only inform the way we do things but will underpin the values in which we do them. Tirohia Matariki te whet\u016B o te tau e whakamoe mai r\u0101 \u2013 e homai ana rongo\u2014look at Matariki, star of the year, preparing to sleep up there. It signals this news.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EFor many of our wh\u0101nau out there, constitutional transformation is not high up on the priority list of things to do, because we\u2019re trying to feed our babies and wh\u0101nau, put a roof over their heads, trying to pay the rent and the doctors\u2019 fees, or trying to find mahi\u2014simply living in an oppressive colonising State. Matariki is the reset for reclaiming our mana motuhake and our tino rangatiratanga to be able to, as M\u0101ori, make our own decisions once again, to work out our own destiny, to exercise what is called in international law the right to self-determination. I express this to the House and to our people: e te iwi M\u0101ori, matike mai! [to the M\u0101ori people, stand up!]. Matariki is our reset. Matariki is our New Year. Matariki is our dawn. Matariki is the reawakening of our indigenous truth whose time has come. Kua tae k\u0113 te w\u0101, m\u0101 M\u0101ori an\u014D a M\u0101ori e k\u014Drero, m\u0101 M\u0101ori an\u014D a M\u0101ori e rangatira. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E[The time has already come when M\u0101ori themselves should speak for M\u0101ori, M\u0101ori themselves should ennoble M\u0101ori.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira, I conclude my contribution to this debate with the words of the great M\u0101ori composer Tuini Ng\u0101wai: Shine down thy glowing light o Matariki on to Mother Earth as a guiding light for this land. Nurture the bloom that it may blossom and on it benefit for the poor and the needy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EHorohia e Matariki\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003Eki te Whenua\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003ETe m\u0101ramatanga m\u014D te motu e\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EKia tipu he pu\u0101wai h\u014Dnore\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EM\u014D te pani, m\u014D te rawakore e\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EM\u014D te rawakore e.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E[Spread your light oh Matariki\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EOn to Mother Earth\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EAs a guiding light for the country \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EMay an honourable bloom grow\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EFor the poor, for the needy.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EI commend this bill to the House. Kia ora t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022 data-id=\u0022ca192754006b4aeb83f8f34abfee9280\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ca192754006b4aeb83f8f34abfee9280\u0022\u003ERINO TIRIKATENE (Labour\u2014Te Tai Tonga):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou \u014Dku rangatira. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou i t\u0113nei r\u0101 nui whakahirahira. E t\u016B tautoko ahau i te pire i t\u0113nei p\u0101nuitanga tuatoru i t\u0113nei r\u0101, kaupapa nui whakahirahira Te Pire m\u014D Te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o Te K\u0101hui o Matariki. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EKa huri t\u016B me mihi ki ng\u0101 mate huhua o te w\u0101 \u2013 ko T\u0101 Wira t\u0113r\u0101, ko te wh\u0101nau o Te Kahurangi me te m\u0101reikura o te wh\u0101nau Jackson, \u0101e, ng\u0101 mate huhua o te w\u0101 kua haere koutou ki \u2018Matariki k\u0101inga kore\u2019. Kua whet\u016Brangitia koutou. \u0100piti hono, t\u0101tai hono. Ko te hunga mate ki te hunga mate, \u0101piti hono, t\u0101tai hono. Ko t\u0101tou te hunga ora ki a t\u0101tou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003E[Greetings, Mr Speaker, and to my respected colleagues. Greetings, on this very important day. I stand to support the third reading of this bill, a very important bill, Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI turn now to acknowledge the many deaths of this time\u2014Sir Wira is one, the esteemed Dame of the Jackson family another\u2014yes, the many deaths of the time who have gone to \u2018homeless Matariki\u2019. You have become stars in the heavens. The lines are unbroken. Let the dead rest with the dead. The lines are unbroken. To us, the living, greetings, greetings, greetings one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI am so proud to be able to speak in support of this momentous bill, Te Pire m\u014D te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o te K\u0101hui o Matariki/Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill, in this third reading. I was bedazzled by the soaring kupu kauhau and almost\u2014I could hear harmonies coming from the other side from Rawiri over the television set. It\u2019s wonderful to have the tautoko\u2014wonderful to have that tautoko for this bill. Great as the oratory and the waiata may be, the actual mahi of actually getting this bill done and passed through this House solely rests with this Government. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge Minister Allan\u2014all the Ministers that were involved in this bill. We took this bill to the motu at election time, and over 50 percent of the motu gave us the endorsement to not only give us the mandate to have the privilege of governing but also to be able to follow through and enact this legislation. So I\u2019m very proud that we are following it up with the mahi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge the importance of this bill because this bill is not just another public holiday; this bill is a M\u0101ori public holiday. First and foremost, we need to celebrate that. This bill is about honouring m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori, honouring the place of te Iwi M\u0101ori, who we are in Aotearoa, and it\u2019s something that all of Aotearoa can share. Come 24 June, there are going to be celebrations up and down the motu all over because this is such a wonderful indigenous home-grown statutory holiday that we are enacting. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EWe\u2019ve heard, quite sadly, in the debate\u2014typical of the other side; they always know the cost of everything, but they know the value of nothing. The value that we are getting as a country from the passage of this legislation is beyond the cost-benefit analysis. We\u2019ve looked at the\u2014I\u2019m not going to even go into the economics, because we hear this every time we bring these positive measures into the House. This is great for Aotearoa. This is great for te Iwi M\u0101ori and for everybody, because it\u2019s not just an extra holiday but we know the benefits that will flow from this are going to be enormous\u2014the economics that will be generated from 30 years and beyond, forever. Our country will celebrate a long weekend right through June and July, around that period. It\u2019s already mapped out, so we can plan ahead. This is going to be absolutely fantastic for Aotearoa. I\u2019m so proud. I\u2019m so excited for all of our iwi, puta noa i te motu [all around the country]\u2014all of the different traditions and practices that we have, which are all coming to life and will be just so revived from this piece of legislation, from this holiday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI know that my wh\u0101nau of the South, Te Wai Pounamu, Te Tai Tonga, we celebrate in our own ways\u2014Puanga and the rising of the Puanga and the ushering in of our mahinga kai seasons and the changing of the seasons into the frosts of the winter. We\u2019ll be able to share our k\u014Drero, share our practices, with our whanaungas right across the motu, and with New Zealand Aotearoa at large. This is a fantastic piece of legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI remember when a similar bill, I guess, to this was the\u2014we heard from the other side about when we enacted the Mondayisation of Anzac Day. Oh, we heard the shrieks from the other side\u2014the sky was going to fall in! Oh, how bad it\u2019s going to be for business! Is anyone saying that now that we\u2019ve had 10 years hence of Mondayisation, when it does fall, for Anzac Day? Of course not. It\u2019s absolutely fantastic. Kiwis are actually really enjoying those days. They\u2019re opening their wallets, they\u2019re getting out there, and they\u2019re enjoying the time together and the benefits that flow to the wairua of wh\u0101nau to be able to have that extended break. I mean, that\u2019s immeasurable, and that\u2019s the benefits that will be happening. Using Anzac Day is a classic example of that. No one\u2014no one\u2014is moaning about how bad the Mondayisation of Anzac Day has been. And the same will apply to this holiday\u2014the same will apply to this, mapping out 30 years into the future and beyond.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThis is a landmark piece of legislation, and I want to acknowledge the m\u0101tauranga that has come together to guide us through the drafting and the planning ahead that is embodied in this bill. Dr Rangi Matamua and the expert advisory group, thank you so much for your leadership on this important kaupapa. I know my whanaunga Victoria played her bit too there within the group, and she is very proud to bring a southern flavour to your important mahi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ESo this is a tremendous bill. I mean, when I heard the members opposite talking about the options about which holiday to ditch or\u2014it\u2019s just ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. But one thing I did pick up on was none of those holidays\u2014well, every holiday that was read out, none of them had M\u0101ori times, apart from Waitangi Day. But everything was all P\u0101keh\u0101. The day after the day after New Year\u2019s Day is a public holiday. Who really cares about that day?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EThis day, this day which we are enacting\u2014which I would like to say: Te R\u0101 Aro ki a Matariki. Remember that\u2014Te R\u0101 Aro ki a Matariki. That is the name for this special day, and that name will be carried not only by us but by our children and our mokopuna hence, and that will be part and parcel of who we are as a country. I\u2019m really looking forward to just seeing how this evolves, because this is so important for us as a country, as a nation, in terms of our identity, who we are, our unique history, our Treaty bicultural roots that we are founded on. All of that can be given expression and celebration through the enactment of this bill and the creation of this new public holiday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003EI\u2019m really so delighted with this. I\u2019m looking forward to joining in the celebrations come 24 June. I\u2019ll be down in the mighty South with our big mountain and we\u2019ll be definitely celebrating hard, as will Glen up in Taranaki, with the big mountain there, and all the big mountains and the big rivers and the big celebrations that will be taking place. It\u2019s a cause for celebration\u2014it really is a cause for celebration.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002281825190-fd5d-4ed0-bb80-f12f3c93e653\u0022\u003ESo, with that, once again, can I commend all who have been involved in this bill, from the Minister to everybody that\u2019s been involved. This is making a difference for our country forever through the creation of this statutory holiday, which we will enact very shortly: Te R\u0101 Aro ki a Matariki. So, with that, I add my tautoko and I commend this bill wholeheartedly to the House. Kia ora t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022 data-id=\u002211d5960f85614eecae8a667f9caa6a5a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002211d5960f85614eecae8a667f9caa6a5a\u0022\u003EHon DAVID BENNETT (National):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. First of all, I just want to pay tribute to Willie Jackson and his family and wh\u0101nau, special families in the history of New Zealand that have given a lot to this country. So we pay tribute to your family.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EI thought that was an excellent speech from the last speaker, Rino Tirikatene. Nobody can fault exactly what he said. Basically, the time has come in New Zealand\u2019s history for us to recognise in a positive way our M\u0101ori culture and history, which often is somewhat in a controversial way through Waitangi Day. This would give a different way that we can all recognise and partake in a special celebration of M\u0101ori culture and history.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EOn this side of the House, we\u2019re also very much aware of the need to have that balance, with the need to actually be able to have that enjoyment of a country that has a balance between respect and understanding of culture\u2014and, as I say, the time has come for a holiday like this\u2014but, on the other side, we also need to make sure that we have the ability as a country to actually progress and be able to have a system that enables us to actually, basically, fund the country going forward. So there is that quid pro quo, you could say, of \u201CDo we take another day away?\u201D so that we actually can get the direction that I think that last speaker spoke of. And that\u2019s the point that many National speakers have been making today: that there is a cost with any additional holiday, and that cost, at a time when there is high inflation and other issues, is a cost which is upon New Zealanders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EIn respect of that last speaker\u2014and I know Willie Jackson will do a very great oratory now to finish off\u2014the message that he gave, I think, is the right one: that, as a country, we are developing and the time has come to recognise an appropriate way. And it\u2019s getting that balance right which is the essence of the future of New Zealand going forward, and it\u2019s getting the balance at the right time and the right place. So thank you, Mr Speaker, and I just want to acknowledge the great speeches that have been heard today. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u0022cf3e7e004f57421c9c94534ffbdfce6a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cf3e7e004f57421c9c94534ffbdfce6a\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Minister for M\u0101ori Development):\u003C/span\u003E E te iti e rahi te katoa e mihi mai ki taku wh\u0101nau, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou i whakarangatira i t\u0101 m\u0101tou wh\u0101nau, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EHe tika me mihi ki a koe e Rangi m\u014D t\u014D kaha e hoa ki te k\u014Dkiri i t\u0113nei kaupapa. He rawe, rawe t\u014D mahi, ahakoa ng\u0101 piki me ng\u0101 heke ahakoa he tini ng\u0101 whakaaro o te r\u014Dp\u016B Nahinara, kia \u016B tonu ki te kaupapa e mihi ana ki a koe. Kei te tino whakah\u012Bh\u012B Ng\u0101ti Porou, oh no! T\u016Bhoe\u2014T\u016Bhoe\u2014i t\u0113nei w\u0101 e hoa. E mihi ana, mihi ana ki a koe me \u014D hoa i k\u014Dkiri te kaupapa, Victoria, Pauline, Jack, taku hoa tawhito Rereata, Ruakere. I tino waimarie a m\u0101tou ki te kite i te mahi rawe ki te k\u014Dkiri i te kaupapa. Mihi ana ki a koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EKo t\u0113nei he kaupapa tino whakahirahira m\u014D t\u0101tou te iwi M\u0101ori me ng\u0101 iwi katoa, me ng\u0101 iwi katoa, mihi ana, mihi ana ki koutou. Ki a koe e te tuahine. Tino waimarie koe ki te k\u014Dkiri t\u0113nei kaupapa, e mihi ana ki a koe me t\u014D t\u0101tou Pirimia i t\u0113nei w\u0101. Kua wareware tana k\u014Drero i te t\u012Bmatatanga o t\u0113nei rautaki. Tino m\u0101ia, nui tana kaha ki te k\u014Dkiri ki te tautoko t\u0113nei kaupapa. Ahakoa ki \u0113tahi he tino m\u014Drearea t\u0113nei kaupapa kia \u016B ia ki te kaupapa e k\u014Dkiri ia te kaupapa. E mihi ana i a koe e Te Pirimia, Jacinda. Koutou katoa i t\u0113nei w\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[To the small and the large, to everyone who acknowledged my family, thank you, thank you for honouring our family, once again, thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EIt is appropriate that I acknowledge you, Rangi, for driving this issue forward. Your work has been amazing despite the ups and downs, and despite the many opinions of the National Party, you have held your course, well done. Ng\u0101ti Porou is very proud\u2014oh no! I should say T\u016Bhoe\u2014T\u016Bhoe\u2014at this time, my friend. I acknowledge you and your colleagues who have driven this issue forward, Victoria, Pauline, Jack, my old friend Rereata, Ruakere. We have been very lucky to see the amazing work in promoting this initiative. Thank you all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EThis is a very important issue for us, the M\u0101ori people, and for everyone, for everyone, I acknowledge you all. To you, my sister. You are very lucky to be driving this initiative forward, and I would also like to acknowledge our Prime Minister at this time. What she said at the beginning of this strategy has been forgotten. She was brave and very enthusiastic to drive this issue forward. In spite of the strong apprehension from some quarters, she stuck to the task of advocating for this issue. I acknowledge you, Prime Minister Jacinda. To all of you at this time, greetings, greetings one and all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI did my poroporoaki to my wh\u0101nau yesterday, and I just want to thank everyone again for the support for the family. As I said, National gave mum a damehood, she always reminded me\u2014she always reminded me\u2014so thank you again. Thank you for those kind words\u2014before I say some unkind words about your strategy with regard to this kaupapa, and, of course, I have to turn to the ACT Party who have been terrible over the last few weeks.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EThis bill isn\u2019t just about a public holiday, as National and ACT have attempted to frame it; this is about identity. This is the flourishing of our cultural identity, which is at the very grassroots of our communities. Communities that, sadly, the ACT Party have forgotten. For David Seymour over there, Matariki is a public holiday; so, for the ACT Party, Matariki as a public holiday is cultural co-management and cultural co-governance in practice. Yes, OK, Mr Seymour. And the right are surprised that this sharing results in both sides of New Zealand doing well. It can happen. We believe in it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWhen we first announced the Matariki kaupapa, I remember my good friend Judith Collins\u2014who should probably still be the leader of the National Party\u2014without a doubt supporting this kaupapa. No doubt about it. Judith Collins remembers that I watched her go \u201COh no, what a beautiful kaupapa\u201D, Judith Collins said. But now, we\u2019re upside down, all around; they don\u2019t know whether they support Matariki, whether they support co-management. They\u2019ve forgotten Chris Finlayson\u2014I\u2019ll get to him shortly\u2014they\u2019ve forgotten him. And clearly they\u2019ve forgotten the words of the best leader they\u2019ve had over the last couple of years: the Hon Judith Collins. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b6b9aa16757d4b19a90bdae04217add0\u0022\u003EHon Judith Collins\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, leave me alone. Leave me out of it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002253fa4c08947a461292bd688ff9f86af2\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: M\u0101ori are\u2014we know this Judith, we know this\u2014M\u0101ori are sharing their gift of Matariki with P\u0101keh\u0101, and P\u0101keh\u0101 are finding a deeper sense of being a Kiwi through this cultural taonga. You found that, Judith\u2014that\u2019s why you got emotional and supported this kaupapa. But now, wanting a promotion back up the list, you\u2019ve forgotten what you said all those months ago.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022913bc08ec8e844b2945b9b574970e644\u0022\u003EHon Judith Collins\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. The kaupapa of this House requires members to be addressed fully; not by just their first name.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022348348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225129211223a743b980bccbed54e3e082\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, I will, actually, and it\u2019s not the first time I\u2019ve said this. It is correct. I might also add that the other names\u2014you might want to mention their full names for Hansard and for the record. That would be nice.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226749080f990d42aa9ced78ffda5e1e23\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Mr Speaker. My apologies to the Hon Judith Collins\u2014sensitive people, but kei te pai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002237f1e716633d4b1fab86f493a1ec9abc\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No\u2014no.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c55fa06834744cfc848e5459bbc792ed\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Kei te pai\u2014no?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221152a139e5a14f9c8dc724306473b6a6\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, and then you just carry on your speech, because any comment is a comment on the ruling, so that\u2019s out of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002281170a1f88ca4927b8f41a0afb149f89\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: My apologies\u2014my apologies, sir. Many non-M\u0101ori, Kiwi families now participate in Matariki festivals at schools, and they\u2019ve cherished the opportunity to reflect on the last year while casting hopes on the next year. There isn\u2019t a price on making Matariki a public holiday; the cost is in not having it. We saw on Parliament\u2019s lawns this year the dangers of isolation and fractured communities. Celebrations like Matariki are vital to reconnect those wh\u0101nau who have fallen off the edges. We need to celebrate and come together to start the healing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI believe we\u2019re crying out as a society right now. This is not the time\u2014and I\u2019ll direct us to the ACT Party\u2014to count lost dollars and bitter cents to find ways to denigrate Matariki; this is the time to build in good faith, without opportunism and without thinking that the party\u2019s lost 10 percent of votes to the National Party in the latest poll. It\u2019s time not to rebuild the vote but to try and work and build and work with communities. We look forward to a united nation. I was just on Te Karere, and they said, \u201COh, isn\u2019t it great the House are all working together?\u201D Well, they are not, because we have an opportunistic ACT Party and a National Party that has forgotten its history and its background. We\u2019re blessed to have matured, in my view, as a country where a M\u0101ori festival is embraced, respected, and shared by our fellow Kiwis. That\u2019s why I\u2019m hopeful that the co-governance debate that David Seymour is so desperately attempting to dog-whistle over will, in fact, lead to a reasonable, fair, and just conclusion, because I believe that Kiwis are less spiteful and mean-spirited than David Seymour and the ACT Party.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EThe fearmongering that some on that side of the House are trying to whip up is not in the spirit of partnership this country was founded on. If we can\u2019t celebrate Matariki in this home nation, well, where can we celebrate it? Where can we celebrate it? Our celebration of Matariki shouldn\u2019t come at the cost of another hard-won public holiday. To eclipse one by raising another is the very opposite spirit of Matariki. That\u2019s the spirit of the ACT Party, eclipsing one by raising another. Matariki is a shared cultural gift, and to impinge the mana of that gift by voting on which public holiday should be replaced, in my view, is crass.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EAs we celebrate this cultural achievement, this shared celebration, we must look to this ACT Party\u2019s co-governance referendum and prepare in good faith to debate. But I warn this party over here that the forces you unleash will be on you. M\u0101ori will come right after Matariki to debate the co-governance and co-management process, because we\u2019ve been waiting 180 years, as we\u2019ve been told by many people, to debate the promise of the Treaty. It is absolutely irresponsible, some of the k\u014Drero going on. Chris Finlayson, a Minister who was an architect of the co-governance and co-management infrastructure that people are now railing against warned Mr Seymour on Radio New Zealand that a referendum would bring the worst out in people, and that he wouldn\u2019t do a referendum. When Chris Finlayson is warning about being too corrosive, the entire country should be put on alert.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWe celebrate Matariki\u2014we celebrate it, because it\u2019s a coming of age of our country, where our culture can be celebrated in a nation of our people. It\u2019s incredibly moving to have watched New Zealanders grow and understand and appreciate the fullness and richness of our shared cultures and values. The House can come together for these types of kaupapa. As much as I attack the ACT Party or the National Party, we dream of the day\u2014and it has happened on the odd occasion\u2014where we can whakakotahi for the kaupapa. This is the right kaupapa to come together on. Rangi Matamua knows that. That\u2019s why he put this kaupapa down, and I thank him. I do thank you, brother, for your hard work and your dreams and your aspirations. He\u2019s a man who talks about kotahitanga, and it\u2019s something we should think about. Attempting to put a price on that is too cheap of a spirit for the moment. We keep calculating the dollars instead of working out the benefits.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EThis is a proud moment for our party. This is a proud moment for this Government. Again, I mihi to my tuahine over here\u2014Kiritapu Allan\u2014for advancing it, and to all of the members in our party. I mihi to the M\u0101ori Party too. Well done to them, but stop trying to say that it\u2019s your idea; it was always our idea, but we know the whanaungas, you know, they can\u2019t help themselves. I think that\u2019s that T\u016Bhoe side. But in terms of the M\u0101ori Party, well done to them. Well done to the Greens for supporting it. My only regret is that I wish my mother and uncle could have been both alive to see Matariki as a public holiday. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, \u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022cf0fccedaa364bc9909d2b2427d9d11b\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That Te Pire m\u014D te Hararei T\u016Bmatanui o te K\u0101hui o Matariki/Te K\u0101hui o Matariki Public Holiday Bill be now read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 77\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 65; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 10; Te Paati M\u0101ori 2.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 43\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 33; ACT New Zealand 10.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000369\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002211938fbfe45f404b9569aea2691390eb\u0022\u003EMaori Commercial Aquaculture Claims Settlement Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022869925601a5b4f3e962312e3bcf92d82\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000372\u0022\u003EDebate resumed from 31 March.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022 data-id=\u002226d4f0ad3e0f4f9fa4b5ea3d3ec28294\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002226d4f0ad3e0f4f9fa4b5ea3d3ec28294\u0022\u003EMARK CAMERON (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. Thank you for the opportunity to speak on the Maori Commercial Aquaculture Claims Settlement Amendment Bill. As I start, I just want to note the members on the other side of the House, in the previous piece of legislation, pontificating\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d730848e03ed4c568f4f171bcbe723d5\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! That bill is over. You speak to this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002206c496f6c5f94869912132be14979c61\u0022\u003EMARK CAMERON\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Mr Speaker. Look, this is a wonderful piece of legislation. I\u2019d like to speak to the third reading of this legislation. The bill is a small and concise piece of legislation and certainly gives certainty to iwi and property owners over the management of their assets.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003ENoteworthy is that no submitters explicitly opposed the bill, and the purpose of the bill by its design was succinct. It amends sections of the Maori Commercial Aquaculture Settlement Act 2004. The committee received 10 submissions: eight by iwi, one by aquaculture industry interest groups, and one by an individual. The bill as designed would ensure iwi can access their settlement assets within an appropriate time frame and, equally, improve the delivery of Crown aquaculture settlement obligations. I think this is deeply important. It supports iwi aquaculture aspirations as well as furthers the growth of the aquaculture industry.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003EIn previous iterations, it was noted by the member Mr van de Molen\u2014and I quote\u2014\u201CFish are the most rapid food protein dietary source.\u201D And I would wager Mr van de Molen is probably quite correct in that assertion. As was previously canvassed by other members when speaking on this bill, the aquaculture industry is worth some $600 million per annum and, arguably, employs approximately 3,000 people. Notably, as was offered during the select committee process, this industry could be worth billions, and I think this speaks to the wider concern and aspirations that those in the industry have for their asset certainty.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003EIn short order, the ACT Party absolutely supports this bill as it speaks to the rights and protections of private property assets and their wellbeing. We commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022 data-id=\u00229c718131180d428f8b7e31ed6b249430\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229c718131180d428f8b7e31ed6b249430\u0022\u003EARENA WILLIAMS (Labour\u2014Manurewa):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te P\u012Bka o te Whare. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou ng\u0101 mema. It\u2019s a privilege to speak on the Maori Commercial Aquaculture Claims Settlement Amendment Bill, which is a short bill that does a very specific job of making the legislation fairer, and it gives the ability to Te Ohu Kaimoana to make a very small and technical change using a limited power of discretion to be able to complete some of the settlements of aquaculture assets in regions where they would otherwise be held up. This is an important change for those iwi who have been waiting to realise the economic impacts of their settlements and to realise the ability to enjoy the gains of aquaculture that have been enjoyed all around the country where iwi are working with business to enjoy those assets. It\u2019s this particular inability of the iwi in those regions to reach agreement in accordance with the provisions of their settlement Acts about how regional aquaculture assets should be allocated among them that\u2019s the issue here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s right that Te Ohu Kaimoana, which plays a leadership role in M\u0101ori aquaculture and M\u0101ori fisheries assets is able to make these determinations, because they are experts. They play a role in the industry, which is world leading, in my view. They should be commended for advancing this legislation and their role in it, as well as dealing with all of the players in the industry.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022\u003EI also want to thank the member Tim van de Molen from the National Party for when he joined the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee to participate in the discussions of the committee on this bill. It\u2019s important that we are able to share views and share cross-partisan positions where we can, and this is certainly something where we all agree that it\u2019s important for iwi to be able to realise these assets in a timely way. It was good to be able to have those discussions with the member, who is passionate about this area, and I wish him all the best with his recovery.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s important that we realise, with this bill, that if no changes are made, settlement assets for iwi in those regions will remain largely held in trusts by Te Ohu Kaimoana indefinitely. That means that this trustee role will continue without any ability for people on the ground in these regions, whether they are members of the iwi or not, to enjoy the jobs created by these aquaculture settlements, and the economic benefits for these regions. So it\u2019s within everyone\u2019s interest that this legislation passes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s also in everyone\u2019s interest in these regions that the iwi involved in aquaculture settlements have a voice at the table. They have that through Te Ohu Kaimoana, which is a particular body of governance which I am very proud, as a member of this House, to say has cross-partisan support, that it has an important role in the governance of our fisheries assets in New Zealand. It is a great example of sharing the responsibilities of governance between iwi, between M\u0101ori, between the Crown, and with an interest to including all industry players in that. It\u2019s a great model and one we can use for other assets.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022\u003EAs I said, this is a technical bill, but it will not be, in any way, ignored by those iwi who are most affected by it, and by regional players in this. That\u2019s why I commend it to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022 data-id=\u0022df2dd80f08ff47deb165a83a695da911\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022df2dd80f08ff47deb165a83a695da911\u0022\u003EHon JUDITH COLLINS (National\u2014Papakura):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I\u2019m happy to support this bill as is the National Party. This really does address an issue whereby some settlements have not been able to be properly completed because of either disagreements or inability to reach settlements between different interests of iwi. That\u2019s holding everybody back so we need to just get on with it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003EI think, too, that what people may not be always aware of is that as we\u2019re talking about the kai moana in the sea, we\u2019ve got, right at the moment, technology and research science working very, very hard to actually have a lot of these stocks being able to be farmed. I was really amazed to hear, and to know, of fish such as h\u0101puku or kingfish now being able to be farmed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003EWe need to get past this arguing about these particular allocations, when we all agree we just need to get on with it, and at the same time, understanding that we do produce protein in New Zealand, we produce it very well, but, by the way, we need to actually just think a little bit broader than assets between particularly iwi or rights between that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002285ec30d4-6394-433a-a12e-2c4def705dd0\u0022\u003EI think that\u2019s one of the big issues here: the actual settlement system. The M\u0101ori treaties trust was established in 2004; that\u2019s a long time ago. While there are some iwi at the moment who haven\u2019t been able to access what they believe are their entitlements, everyone else is being held up too around those areas, so we just need to get on. We support this because we understand the need for this country to stop arguing about things between ourselves and just get on and start to grow the economy, because this country is going to be in desperate straits if we cannot do it better than what has been done over the last four years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022 data-id=\u00225405d5106ca04ab6b0b384c47647101d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225405d5106ca04ab6b0b384c47647101d\u0022\u003EPAUL EAGLE (Labour\u2014Rongotai) (remote):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare. It\u2019s a pleasure to speak on this, the third reading of the M\u0101ori Commercial Aquaculture Claims Settlement Amendment Bill. It\u2019s been a really good experience to be on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and seeing this through. Essentially, this provides for the full and final settlement of all M\u0101ori commercial aquaculture claims since September 1992.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EWe had submitters come in and clearly articulate the issues that were needed to be sorted and, essentially, the proposed changes will ensure that those aquaculture settlement assets are delivered to what are called iwi aquaculture organisations that wish to claim the assets it is agreed they are entitled to within a time frame. Secondly, it will protect those interests of the iwi who choose not to claim the aquaculture settlement assets they are entitled to within that time frame. And, of course, it assists the Crown, us, to fulfil its full settlement obligations. This is something that\u2019s been long overlooked. I\u2019m really happy that we\u2019ve been part of\u2014this Government put together an aquaculture strategy released in 2019 that recognises these issues, and I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022 data-id=\u002285688dd92f2b4e3ab2de3b4d21f0e578\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002285688dd92f2b4e3ab2de3b4d21f0e578\u0022\u003EHon DAVID BENNETT (National):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. There\u2019s general agreement between all the parties here, and I don\u2019t want to take too much time, because we can possibly finish it off in a quick way. It\u2019s a power that will actually benefit a lot of iwi and New Zealand in total. We looking forward to it passing through this House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022eaf79431-1033-44f1-a633-22633da52c0d\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u00223fd1d319cbff4b9bad13a86c42eaf0a4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223fd1d319cbff4b9bad13a86c42eaf0a4\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Members, it has come time for me to leave the Chair. The House stands adjourned until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 12 April 2022. P\u014D m\u0101rie.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 4.55 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20220407892407b0aa074e7e9e982920df48ac12000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"