"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022103c39d79cb745c180f2727abb583765\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 8 JUNE 2023\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00221ab9ca1ccbfd431f8642281c0e1d571d\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 8 JUNE 2023\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000002\u0022\u003EThe Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000004\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c557fed42d194c0e99c08b81fb1f61c3\u0022\u003EKarakia/Prayers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227e92e66896d245a6b50e1285e2069d33\u0022\u003EKarakia/Prayers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u002290b40cc20e014db5803bb99dee8d2d3c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002290b40cc20e014db5803bb99dee8d2d3c\u0022\u003EGREG O\u2019CONNOR (Deputy Speaker):\u003C/span\u003E Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the King and pray for guidance in our deliberations, that we may conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002267fe29c3610349c1badd5676f498bb83\u0022\u003EVisitors\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228ef21eea5583432e9f01e141a0b35363\u0022\u003ECommonwealth Parliamentary Association\u2014UK Branch Delegation\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u002257b1451a70ea4734953a0dbcc290e552\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002257b1451a70ea4734953a0dbcc290e552\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m sure that members would wish to welcome the Rt Hon Dame Maria Miller MP, Chair of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association UK Branch, and her accompanying delegation, who are present in the gallery.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f5933045698b40cb97cd525db5df3626\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002265f0da81c1b440958dad65100bdafbe2\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022 data-id=\u00228b4fda0c54f046efa9c647acbb1cbd15\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228b4fda0c54f046efa9c647acbb1cbd15\u0022\u003EHon KIERAN McANULTY (Deputy Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Today, the House will adjourn until Tuesday, 20 June. In that week, legislation to be considered will include the first readings of the Emergency Management Bill, the Ng\u0101ti Hei Claims Settlement Bill, and the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill; the committee stages of the Business Payment Practices Bill, the Charities Amendment Bill, the Deposit Takers Bill, the Fuel Industry Amendment Bill, and the Worker Protection (Migrant and Other Employees) Bill; and the remaining stages of the Grocery Industry Competition Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022 data-id=\u0022626b062dc988429faaa401b84a37bd44\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022626b062dc988429faaa401b84a37bd44\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOODHOUSE (National):\u003C/span\u003E I thank the acting leader of the House for that update. I\u2019m sure he\u2019ll agree that, given the way select committees and report-backs are going, it\u2019s going to be an extremely busy July and August, in the lead-up to the adjournment of this Parliament. While I know it\u2019s the Business Committee\u2019s prerogative, can I encourage the acting leader to ensure that where there are plans for urgency and extended sittings, they are signalled well in advance in order that they can be planned for?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022 data-id=\u0022ab7171cdcafe42dfa04a15decf6f572d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ab7171cdcafe42dfa04a15decf6f572d\u0022\u003EHon KIERAN McANULTY (Deputy Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, the member is well within his rights to encourage me to do that, but we will, as we always do, wherever possible, give as much notice as possible.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002252050683cf58475f9907ac8a56c6e35d\u0022\u003EPetitions, Papers, Select Committee Reports, and Introduction Of Bills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022042eee2bc79641728eeb0f304b372d3a\u0022\u003EPetitions, Papers, Select Committee Reports, and Introduction Of Bills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u002269dda80876d94b4186687548c4b239ff\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002269dda80876d94b4186687548c4b239ff\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. No papers have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. Select committee reports have been delivered for presentation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022\u0022 data-id=\u00224d5cf01bbd5f46a3b899d7af4040be38\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224d5cf01bbd5f46a3b899d7af4040be38\u0022\u003ECLERK\u003C/span\u003E:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EReports of the Finance and Expenditure Committee on the:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBItemSL1\u0022\u003EInland Revenue Department, Long-Term Insights Briefing 2022\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBItemSL1\u0022\u003EReserve Bank of New Zealand, Monetary Policy Statement, May 2023, and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBItemSL1\u0022\u003EWater Services Legislation Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereports of the Health Committee on the:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBItemSL1\u0022\u003E2021-22 annual reviews of the Health Promotion Agency, the Taranaki District Health Board, and the Whanganui District Health Board, and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBItemSL1\u0022\u003Epetition of Millie Grant: Place a purchase limit on pharmaceuticals such as paracetamol in supermarkets\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereport of the Justice Committee on the Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Community Participation) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereport of the Petitions Committee on the petition of Patricia Fabish and the Sensible Sentencing Group Trust: Stop editing Victim Impact Statements in New Zealand, and the\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereport of the Regulations Review Committee on the second interim report Complaint about the E-Scooters (Declaration not to be motor vehicles) Notice 2018.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022fc6df729a55e4dbbb6f13d829659bc2e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fc6df729a55e4dbbb6f13d829659bc2e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The bills are set down for second reading. The Long-Term Insights Briefing, Monetary Policy Statement, and interim report on the complaint are set down for consideration. The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of a bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022\u0022 data-id=\u0022ffa390a5df454868b53e92e6e5c95984\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ffa390a5df454868b53e92e6e5c95984\u0022\u003ECLERK\u003C/span\u003E: Employment Relations (Protection for Kiwisaver Members) Amendment Bill, introduction.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u002274369af8f09c4fa182c2aff75801b043\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002274369af8f09c4fa182c2aff75801b043\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That bill is set down for first reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b5a699d8ecba4b4db610694a4aeb5000\u0022\u003EOral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022fd937c0b7bb04b51980b466367529c14\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a5844fb5876e44ac94fbafd5f87dc9c6\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 1\u2014Prime Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022 data-id=\u00223a501f8dee274c5db98ba70277866608\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223a501f8dee274c5db98ba70277866608\u0022\u003ENICOLA WILLIS (Deputy Leader\u2014National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: On what dates, if any, did the Cabinet Office communicate with the Prime Minister or the Office of the Prime Minister since November 2020 regarding Hon Michael Wood\u2019s shareholdings?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u00224e323343405c42acb32dd3ea6b6c8270\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224e323343405c42acb32dd3ea6b6c8270\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for M\u0101ori Crown Relations: Te Arawhiti):\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Prime Minister: The Cabinet Office has not communicated with the Prime Minister or his current office prior to last week. I am advised that the previous Prime Minister was informed that the Hon Michael Wood was in the process of divesting shares in Auckland Airport and Contact Energy as part of the annual reviews of ministerial interest in November 2021 and November 2022. She was also informed he had divested his shares in March 2021; however, this was incorrect advice. In February 2022, the then chief of staff was informed by the Cabinet Office that they had provided advice to the Hon Michael Wood about divesting, and that the Minister had advised he was in the process of divesting the shares.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002295e8aa1011f54d5686e2ee03bf89bbce\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Why, despite an entire year passing between checks from the Prime Minister as to whether or not the shares had been sold and no action having been taken, were those shares not registered on the official conflict of interest register?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002210558112fab041e1a84be7d94edafa90\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: There is no question that he should have done it quicker. I\u2019m not going to defend his failure to do it when told he should have followed the advice, and he accepts that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002245a89bbf23284e30805e54f4433ca12b\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. The answer there was referring to the Minister\u2019s actions. Nicola Willis was asking about the actions taken by the Prime Minister\u2019s office and Cabinet, and it hasn\u2019t been addressed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022714da919d43c4b378198fe08a75b00c3\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I agree, and I ask Nicola Willis to ask the question again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002274725c58c9914f2099c1c609087275fd\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ll do my best to use the same words. Why, despite a year passing between the Prime Minister first being made aware of the shareholding and those shares not being divested, were they not registered on the official register of conflicts of interest?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002243baab155e234f14be642d92381127e2\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: There is an investigation being conducted by Sir Maarten Wevers, and I believe it is appropriate to let that investigation run its course, and we\u2019ll find out all the information we need to know in due course.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a1d6f4af22c84049aec93400fdfd36d1\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The investigation being mentioned is about a member as a member of Parliament. Members can ask about their ministerial responsibilities and Cabinet responsibilities, so the Minister has not addressed that part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f8bc8cf8318949059c59dcce0ebd097e\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: I believe the Minister did declare his shares in the register in 2022.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221185ab15746c48b0b5cbdb9ec3b4c709\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Why, in 2021, did Minister Wood not declare his shares on the ministerial declaration of conflicts of interest when not only he knew that he hadn\u2019t sold them but the Cabinet Office knew, the Prime Minister knew, and nothing was done about it?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002201337923427741168cb3ac6fbb2d900a\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Again, there is no question that the Minister should have done it quicker and I\u2019m not going to defend his failure to do so. He should have followed the advice that he got, and he accepts that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b9a812c36a6745b8b8f14f555c1e8d7e\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Prime Minister retain confidence in the Cabinet Office\u2019s process for managing conflicts of interest when 2\u00BD years went by in which a conflict of interest was not declared or registered, despite the Cabinet Office being aware it existed?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a97b612a15e9497780108aa27c3ecad3\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bbb76eed95e3429da00a2f6b00cadbfa\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: What sort of standards exist in this Government that a Minister can have a conflict of interest for 2\u00BD years, not declare it, not manage it, and that person remains a Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022edfc011e1c0548a79aab5110ab3315a3\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Again, I\u2019m not going to stand here and defend the Minister\u2019s actions. He knows that he should\u2019ve declared those interests sooner. He accepts that advice.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222e2b52e8e1f1408588fdd1582ca486a3\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Prime Minister aware that not only did the Minister mismanage his pecuniary interest register and his Cabinet declaration but he also misled a journalist in July 2021; when specifically asked if he had any pecuniary interests he had not declared, he expressly said he had not\u2014is that acceptable?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a339d2ffe1f94d46af81dc576a9c7fe2\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: There is a part of the question that probably should not have been mentioned. Every member should be aware that the pecuniary interest process is separate to the Cabinet. So I would ask the Minister to respond to the part of the question that dealt with the Cabinet processes and the ministerial process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022448135d8446b4d39bfcb8443303af76d\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: I am advised that the Minister has answered questions in terms of what he understood was accurate at the time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229f95f3ab1fe1460e9dd4b60b808cd268\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Prime Minister think it was accurate?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002286567863c9ff42b680c77d040dfa8fcb\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Prime Minister, they\u2019d have to take the Minister\u2019s word for that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226f48e437b2a9453db66318e20b42aed2\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Why is this Prime Minister prepared to accept the word of an individual who, over the course of 2\u00BD years, claimed they were selling shares but failed to do so, was given 12 reminders to do it, said they were doing it, hadn\u2019t done it, and today, we\u2019re told, won\u2019t even front to media to talk about it\u2014why does that person remain a Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220ec35db65fa540839efb3312e50ae9c2\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Well, on behalf of the Prime Minister, that\u2019s the very reason that he\u2019s been stood down from his transport portfolio.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022040658f0cb504e438b43ba6133e678f3\u0022\u003ENicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Why does he remain the Minister of Immigration, the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety, the associate finance Minister, and the Minister for Auckland issues?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ee97b11c0ccf4f6ab960aa2a3b4209d6\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Because he\u2019s proven himself to be very competent in all of those portfolios that she\u2019s mentioned. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c60d3abd0ba3430eb9b13c406dca26f3\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 2\u2014Energy and Resources\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b398827c-6bf5-403e-90dc-ff03205302a5\u0022 data-id=\u002259c384737bfa4e909a4c3c11ccc61391\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b398827c-6bf5-403e-90dc-ff03205302a5\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002259c384737bfa4e909a4c3c11ccc61391\u0022\u003EHon AUPITO WILLIAM SIO (Labour\u2014M\u0101ngere)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Energy and Resources: How is the Government supporting communities to be more energy resilient?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022 data-id=\u002265cfa386f27f4ed2809784c81b0a4e72\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002265cfa386f27f4ed2809784c81b0a4e72\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Energy and Resources):\u003C/span\u003E Through Budget 2023, the Government has committed to extending our successful community energy programme partnering with local organisations, including iwi, to deliver more community-based, renewable electricity projects. My intention is for this funding to enable at least 2,000 additional households to benefit from renewable electricity generation. The loss of electricity following the Auckland floods and Cyclone Gabrielle highlighted the importance of building resilience in our electricity system, especially for small and isolated communities, and our Government is committed to continuing to deliver the support to build resilience. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b398827c-6bf5-403e-90dc-ff03205302a5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002268c38adcbd7742e9b22918243f38cae7\u0022\u003EHon Aupito William Sio\u003C/span\u003E: What type of projects will be delivered as a result of this Budget 2023 funding?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d6a7241c9464a3db91c954afccfc347\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: We are investing in community energy projects such as wind power and solar generation and batteries that will improve energy security. This will support target communities to get secure, renewable, and affordable energy. Many of these projects will enable a reliable supply of renewable energy, growing their resilience to natural hazards when power lines go down, and reducing their power bills.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b398827c-6bf5-403e-90dc-ff03205302a5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bafadef8aefa4ec9ae76651eb36a17bd\u0022\u003EHon Aupito William Sio\u003C/span\u003E: What support has the Government already delivered for community-based, renewable electricity projects?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221d90ed492d4f407698ca7b9f4cb359a8\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: Through our M\u0101ori and Public Housing Renewable Energy Fund, we\u2019ve delivered 30 renewable energy projects, with a further 12 currently under construction. When all of these projects are complete, 435 homes will benefit. We\u2019ve rolled out solar photovoltaic systems on 170 public homes across New Zealand, including in Wellington, Hawke\u2019s Bay, Whang\u0101rei, Nelson, Gisborne, Auckland, Hamilton, and Christchurch. Some households funded with solar and battery systems reported they could keep the lights on when the local area was without mains power for five days following Cyclone Gabrielle.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b398827c-6bf5-403e-90dc-ff03205302a5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221ccf19fc64b14e47be2aaf75615c1681\u0022\u003EHon Aupito William Sio\u003C/span\u003E: In addition to improving energy resilience, what other benefits are provided by community-based, renewable electricity projects?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002282c3bf7f6eff48078de0df04367e3148\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: Our Government\u2019s funding through successive Budgets has helped increase energy resilience\u2014particularly in small and isolated communities\u2014and reduced power bills. Early reports from completed projects show all households are experiencing significantly reduced power bills, by in some cases up to 50 percent, which provides immediate financial relief for those families.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b398827c-6bf5-403e-90dc-ff03205302a5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bec2b2a545c544cc8d02d6a74a2e5922\u0022\u003EHon Aupito William Sio\u003C/span\u003E: Where can people find out more about community energy?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226b1a3de7458749a388fd4b1be6dc320b\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: Ara Ake, New Zealand\u2019s future energy centre, which was established by the Government in 2019, has recently launched its Community Energy How to Guide, which provides advice for communities interested in developing community energy. The guide, available on Ara Ake\u2019s website, demonstrates how community-scale projects can align with the grid to improve resilience, reduce costs, and lower emissions. I want to congratulate Ara Ake for their hard work on this project.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ca59253f750340e485061984c92688c3\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 3\u2014Auckland\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u00227db3de122c254ca3b5a46f92ba542978\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227db3de122c254ca3b5a46f92ba542978\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Auckland: Does he stand by all his statements and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022 data-id=\u0022ce3e652f1505481296ac5c3943f5029d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ce3e652f1505481296ac5c3943f5029d\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOOD (Minister for Auckland):\u003C/span\u003E Yes. In their context, I stand by my statements and actions as Minister for Auckland.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bee6da3d489a4ca3908ed8e699238763\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Regarding his statement yesterday that he stood by his statements to the Cabinet Office about his personal shareholdings in Auckland International Airport, what exactly did he tell the Cabinet Office following their 6 and 27 March 2023 requests to dispose of the shares?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fb6f8c264d0248a58542bc1a252a6570\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOOD\u003C/span\u003E: I would have to check the records fully, but I do not believe I have provided a formal response to those emails.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b68134c7a6684786936f737df597734c\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Was he arrogant enough to think he didn\u2019t need to follow the rules?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ee7e7a2b6db64b2c9ec5b89315cd3a66\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOOD\u003C/span\u003E: No, but I have acknowledged and will acknowledge again that it was a serious error on my part not to be sufficiently focused on this matter. As of today, I have taken action on that by selling the shares.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220ed469919b914c1c8d0caf74c9527d42\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Has he contacted Jonathan Milne at Newsroom since February to correct the false statement he gave him two years ago that he had nothing more to declare beyond his pecuniary interest list\u2014a list that did not include his Auckland International Airport shareholding?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220bd29707c83c424eb92c25df9684b9a1\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ll ask the member to rephrase the question. I\u2019m mindful that there\u2019s an investigation on this very matter. It\u2019s entirely up to the member, though. It does leave it open, though, for the Minister\u2014whether or not that\u2019s his responsibility as the Minister of Auckland affairs. But if you want to ask it in a different way, that may be in order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002242f663fd87df47798436cccc5ab7cddc\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Just a point of order, Mr Speaker. I did say \u201Csince February\u201D\u2014since he\u2019s been Minister for Auckland\u2014and it\u2019s a duty of all Ministers to, as Minister for Auckland, he\u2019s responsible for international connectivity\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226d89610c40594261ad6c8ce53b3c5a70\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: But his pecuniary interests are not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022081203d53dbd4e33a6325462b8b1698c\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: No. No, no\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002282b074bc46164c119ff2b857832a56f2\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s right; that\u2019s what you said.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223a0895a4e6c047fa89169fd67d403c82\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Has he contacted Jonathan Milne at Newsroom since February to correct the false statement he gave to him more than two years ago?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022effef5c323aa423fa72ac9aabe16cfdc\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOOD\u003C/span\u003E: No, and I reject the characterisation in the member\u2019s question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227087618f11914343bcbd033466de2854\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Well, which part of the statement does he reject?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022531c525cd6ae4b84858df6229820dfe1\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOOD\u003C/span\u003E: Firstly, that was not a statement that I made as the Minister for Auckland. Secondly, I have acknowledged that over this period of time, I was not across all of the detail but I\u2019ve never deliberately made a false statement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002207134a2594d44faca8201faa4c01e9b3\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Why did he say yesterday that he commenced the process of selling the shares in early 2022, when apparently he had made a commitment to the Cabinet Office to sell them from December 2020\u2014more than a year earlier?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022098b8334-57f8-4062-bac6-bfbc3474e88e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c4556fe91cd4bc3a57e0b347d9c2ef7\u0022\u003EHon MICHAEL WOOD\u003C/span\u003E: At that earlier point, I had commenced the process\u2014that did not proceed as far as it should have. I more fulsomely began that process in early 2022. Again, I regret that I did not complete that process. As of today, I have undertaken the necessary action and sold those shares.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002219ac3a104953421ea384cb650c243303\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 4\u2014Housing\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022 data-id=\u0022579d7de9f1e44520b8fc8fefe49da2cd\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022579d7de9f1e44520b8fc8fefe49da2cd\u0022\u003EHon MEKA WHAITIRI (Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Housing: Does she have confidence in the operations of the Temporary Accommodation Service in Hawke\u2019s Bay following Cyclone Gabrielle?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022 data-id=\u002268694d0fbc1b4fac9e4468be2625c3a9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002268694d0fbc1b4fac9e4468be2625c3a9\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Minister of Housing):\u003C/span\u003E Yes. Through Budget 2023, the Government put in an additional $70 million through Vote Housing to deliver up to 400 relocatable cabins in four rohe, including Hawke\u2019s Bay, to temporarily house wh\u0101nau displaced by the severe weather events. Government agencies are currently working through the contracts for these units, including up to 100 units in Hawke\u2019s Bay, with delivery through Ng\u0101ti Kahungunu or its hap\u016B organisations. In terms of the Temporary Accommodation Service (TAS) appropriation, I can also report that three Portacabins have arrived in Wai\u014Dhiki today. TAS has also reported good progress in relation to a project to place relocatable homes on \u014Cmahu Marae land in Hawke\u2019s Bay.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002216b07cb0f35b41ee937e9ea17f0f76d2\u0022\u003EHon Meka Whaitiri\u003C/span\u003E: Has she heard of reports that in the last week the Temporary Accommodation Service has evicted wh\u0101nau from accommodation in Hawke\u2019s Bay at extremely short notice, including calling the police?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002259ea77b3aad94fe5860066a6cffb13c2\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: It would not be appropriate for me to speak on individual cases in the House, but if the member would like to provide me with her concerns in writing, I\u2019m happy to work with her directly. But, generally speaking, what I can say is TAS does have an eligibility criteria and performs a needs assessment on all registered households to ensure that we can support the households who have found themselves displaced, and, in some cases, lost everything following a natural disaster. Following a needs assessment, it may become apparent that a household does not meet the criteria, and another Government agency would be best placed to assist. TAS then works with that agency to ensure a household transitions smoothly from TAS to them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002256a900c9a01142cdb764fafe3e387f98\u0022\u003EHon Meka Whaitiri\u003C/span\u003E: What assurances, if any, can she give these wh\u0101nau who have lost their homes from the cyclone that they will be guaranteed the accommodation they need, particularly given that land categorisation in Hawke\u2019s Bay is still being consulted on?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262d3aae560c44812bad9db763d3a296d\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS\u003C/span\u003E: What guarantees I can give are the answers that I gave in my primary question: that those households that are eligible for TAS assistance, there is currently already plenty of supply in the area and more is coming, that we\u2019ve made the commitment, and, as I said to the member in the answer to the primary question only today, three more cabins have arrived.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f96cdca1-b63c-4602-b2b3-276f58ebb518\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228f81268a1e344da197717d7d50553161\u0022\u003EChris Penk\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. I seek the leave of the House to table a letter from me to the Minister for Cyclone Recovery, dated 19 May, highlighting issues of housing insecurity post - cyclone and flood issues, and also the reply which came from the Minister of Housing in relation to the same issue.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220e625049fe044665a3b47b7b604f0101\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any objection? There appears to be none. It may be tabled.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EDocument, by leave, laid on the Table of the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b7bf61380e32482ea68d36f7e6d9a596\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 5\u2014Prime Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022 data-id=\u0022cf35dd1683b34a3ba6abebb773a46906\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cf35dd1683b34a3ba6abebb773a46906\u0022\u003EDAVID SEYMOUR (Leader\u2014ACT)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: On what specific dates since November 2020, if any, did the Cabinet Office communicate with the Prime Minister\u2019s office regarding Hon Michael Wood\u2019s shareholding in Auckland Airport, and who in the Prime Minister\u2019s office, if anyone, was aware of the shareholding prior to last week?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022fbc3794a504f402b895b97a4f2329693\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fbc3794a504f402b895b97a4f2329693\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister for M\u0101ori Crown Relations: Te Arawhiti)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Prime Minister: On behalf of the Prime Minister, I have answered the first part of the question in response to question No. 1. For the second part of the question, no one currently in the Prime Minister\u2019s office was aware of this issue prior to last week.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002238771fecdc2f41e5ab86bcade0152e97\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. It was a question on notice. It requires more than simply being addressed. If the Minister answering on behalf of the Prime Minister is clearly aware, because he\u2019s certain those people no longer work there, then surely he should identify those people at least by title.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f98edd9d093c4c1083730d95f1987187\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, I agree. As the member said, it was on notice. We did hear some dates yesterday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226c17d94b5b2a4bab8c142e805bca182e\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: And today, and the positions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221ff722bccc9148898d6ebee3c7388d8b\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bbca0f6fbd2f4c63b2a1af57d290f2ba\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I\u2019ve ruled on it. I don\u2019t know if the member heard them\u2014he might have said them. But if you\u2019ve got them there\u2014well, I\u2019ll give the member an extra two questions, and he can flesh them out a bit further.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224ce198e38fce4a578c028a33a9d06897\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002224ac3e53c7fc4140b1b61939bee317aa\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: A new point of order?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002229d8c9e753aa4685b4d8e33db97f729d\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Yes. The dates were said in answer to Question No. 1. It\u2019s not for me to determine or for us to determine whether or not his hearing is good enough to hear it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002205da93bdf34340d48659fee623831ae1\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: This is not a supplementary question. This the primary question. Do you want another opportunity to answer the primary question, or are we going to add extra supplementaries?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022beb1a341313947efb194c9202e9e0371\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ll repeat the answer to question No. 1, Mr Speaker: on behalf of the Prime Minister, the Cabinet Office has not communicated with the Prime Minister or his current office prior to the last week. I\u2019m advised that the previous Prime Minister was informed that the Hon Michael Wood was in the process of divesting shares in Auckland Airport and Contact Energy as part of the annual reviews of ministerial interests in November 2021, November 2022. She was also informed he had divested his shares in March 2021. However, this was incorrect advice. In February 2022, the then chief of staff was informed by the Cabinet Office that they had provided advice to the Hon Michael Wood about divesting, and that the Minister had advised he was in the process of divesting the shares. Point of order, Mr Speaker. I think that Question No. 1 fully answered it, and I referred\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228850fd58b21b4e6ebe6ec1c761fea47d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! I will be the judge of relevance. Do you have a further supplementary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022da1ab5294d3542ca971e87f712d4a23d\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Mr Speaker; I do. How can New Zealanders trust this Government when for 2\u00BD years Michael Wood knew, the Cabinet Office knew, the Prime Minister\u2019s office knew, and it turns out the Prime Minister\u2019s chief of staff knew for part of the period but nothing was done about this blatant conflict of interest even when Michael Wood was making decisions that were relevant to his holding in Auckland International Airport?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002202a9ee30fa2b438cb5fdae03c539402a\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Based on the advice that the Prime Minister of the time was given, she would have assumed that the matter was in hand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f2c56941d85144a49c5ae4542be014b8\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Why shouldn\u2019t New Zealanders assume the reason Michael Wood is still a Minister is that the Prime Minister\u2019s office is donkey-deep and complicit in his wrongdoing so has no moral authority to sack him?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c8084085552d454f83a02469ad475721\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The Minister can decide for himself whether he wants to answer that question\u2014I\u2019m standing up because clearly the question is out of order and was always going to lead to disorder in the House, but it\u2019s up to the Minister whether he wants to answer it or not\u2014obviously not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228a02ace93a0841bb8bf6cb3c87d7b736\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. I just wanted to clarify if you\u2019d still gifted those two additional supps.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cb76da2e2f634b5dad1587238ba1fb2f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, absolutely.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002283bb67d2a6f5434db1a6d2714d4cda11\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Prime Minister aware that a company director so negligent in declaring their interests and carrying on for 2\u00BD years would face severe penalties, and, if so, why should New Zealanders in business follow one set of rules when his Minister is let to follow another?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228a5094e4380f41b0894e63d6788b410e\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: The Prime Minister has made it clear that he\u2019s disappointed in the lack of action from Michael Wood, which is the reason he has been stood down from his transport portfolio.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022994005f2c3624be796588b4593f9f651\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: How are New Zealanders supposed to trust a Government when so much can go so wrong for so long, and yet, magically, it\u2019s never really anybody\u2019s fault?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223573414df38b4765b3f3e6a8a54e55dd\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: I reject that because Michael Wood has said that he failed to do what he should have done.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022dfee1fd1c17b4d0889948f722ddf4245\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 6\u2014Housing\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022 data-id=\u0022f2c25e9e18c941c18de2b1c47da324a1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f2c25e9e18c941c18de2b1c47da324a1\u0022\u003ECHL\u00D6E SWARBRICK (Green\u2014Auckland Central)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Housing: Is she satisfied that the UN-recognised human right to adequate housing of the approximately 1.4 million renters in this country is being met? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022 data-id=\u00224b2aefa2890849b2b8a498be742723a1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224b2aefa2890849b2b8a498be742723a1\u0022\u003EHon BARBARA EDMONDS (Associate Minister of Housing):\u003C/span\u003E The Government is committed to working towards everyone having adequate housing. The Government has undertaken a number of actions since 2017 to improve housing for renters, including implementing the healthy homes standards, which aim to make a significant improvement in the quality of Aotearoa rental homes; improving security of tenure by removing no-cause terminations; adding over 12,000 public housing places since 1 November 2017, with around 10,000 new builds; banning letting fees; banning landlords from setting rental bids; and limiting rent increases to once per year. The Government recognises that there is always more work to do in this space and we are working on it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ffc80151af944607b51fcc5c82d90afc\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: Does she believe that the exemptions for boarding houses and student accommodation in the Residential Tenancies Act are fit for purpose?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002293031d21b49e486f84718a802f1ee2ad\u0022\u003EHon BARBARA EDMONDS\u003C/span\u003E: The Government\u2019s long-held position on access to housing is that the most important action that the Government can take is to keep increasing supply and keep up our focus on improving standards, such as the healthy homes standards, which do not apply to boarding houses.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002240a99714e52b4697a50b4db71482d92a\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: When can renters expect property managers to be regulated, as consultation options were released by the Ministry of Housing and Urban Development over a year ago?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225c468947d0b7421e8b47acd9a6a33f6f\u0022\u003EHon BARBARA EDMONDS\u003C/span\u003E: I acknowledge the challenges for renters in the market. The landlord-tenant relationship is also regulated by the Residential Tenancies Act. The Government is committed to regulating residential property managers to protect both landlords and tenants, and work continues on this.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022154527e1256d4955bf77dd017fea2008\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: Is she aware that the United Kingdom is progressing a landlord registration scheme, and, if so, is she concerned that the exclusion of approximately 60 percent of rental homes managed by private landlords in the proposed New Zealand regulations puts us behind even the Conservative UK Government?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e7369f44fc7e43aba0c35b2eaea9cc85\u0022\u003EHon BARBARA EDMONDS\u003C/span\u003E: We are an evidence-driven Government, and when we look to the evidence, the best way to control rent is to bring on the supply of new housing. I acknowledge the challenges, again, for renters in the market. The Government is consistently considering what we can do to help people who are renting.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022733ada17ee4840749753cb61d5f70a51\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: How many renting New Zealanders will, this winter, contract preventable illnesses from substandard rental housing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002278d9436380a74919a66a385432e6e881\u0022\u003EHon BARBARA EDMONDS\u003C/span\u003E: I do not have the answer to that specific question. If the member would like to put it in writing, then I will try and respond to it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022db9228ac1698484eb1174b8f897ebe27\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 7\u2014Research, Science and Innovation\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226e419a18-df21-483e-9650-2aaee4e06211\u0022 data-id=\u0022ec02aa7e85fc4d99847f67e35763248c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e419a18-df21-483e-9650-2aaee4e06211\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ec02aa7e85fc4d99847f67e35763248c\u0022\u003EIBRAHIM OMER (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Research, Science and Innovation: What announcement has the Government recently made about investing in the science system?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022aed260be-c954-464b-bb75-85579e53d05a\u0022 data-id=\u0022eb0a4b5de30d4f48b889110076acf274\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aed260be-c954-464b-bb75-85579e53d05a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022eb0a4b5de30d4f48b889110076acf274\u0022\u003EHon Dr AYESHA VERRALL (Minister of Research, Science and Innovation):\u003C/span\u003E Budget 2023 positioned the New Zealand economy for a low-emissions, high-wage future, with a major investment in our science system. This includes the creation of three new multi-institution hubs to increase collaboration in research and science, association with the multi-billion dollar Horizon Europe research programme, and investing in our future research and science workforce.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e419a18-df21-483e-9650-2aaee4e06211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221756f7e1bbca42fdab1ab27612009602\u0022\u003EIbrahim Omer\u003C/span\u003E: Why is the Government investing in multi-institution research hubs?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aed260be-c954-464b-bb75-85579e53d05a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d82f8e028f241dc9aa0f3aa55c90a60\u0022\u003EHon Dr AYESHA VERRALL\u003C/span\u003E: Through Budget 2023, we are creating three multi-institution research hubs to bring scientists closer together to increase collaboration, ensure better use of expensive equipment and facilities, and position New Zealand to meet complex challenges and seize economic opportunities. These hubs will place greater emphasis on innovation and create an environment that helps start-ups to grow and become significant contributors to the New Zealand economy through stronger coordination of innovation and commercialisation activities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e419a18-df21-483e-9650-2aaee4e06211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002256699a681d7647dc9480de6e4aeb0ab4\u0022\u003EIbrahim Omer\u003C/span\u003E: How will the Government be supporting new talent in the science and research system?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aed260be-c954-464b-bb75-85579e53d05a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220e19cc9211e842c8a5b514cd7fc7305a\u0022\u003EHon Dr AYESHA VERRALL\u003C/span\u003E: This Government is committed to supporting new talent, addressing key domestic skills gaps, and improving career mobility. That is why, through Budget 2023, we are investing $55.2 million in research fellowships and to train more PhD students. The fellowships will help retain and develop more than 260 future research, science, and innovation leaders over the next 10 years. An additional fund for PhD students will provide certainty for researchers and improve the impact in applied science that these students get to take up.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226e419a18-df21-483e-9650-2aaee4e06211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bc3afacef56f4eaab0af9aae908bf05a\u0022\u003EIbrahim Omer\u003C/span\u003E: How will Budget 2023 support New Zealand\u2019s research to be showcased on the world stage?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aed260be-c954-464b-bb75-85579e53d05a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002243623a7644e04769a7ec8f788697d0a5\u0022\u003EHon Dr AYESHA VERRALL\u003C/span\u003E: Through Budget 2023, we are investing $37.6 million over four years in New Zealand\u2019s association to Horizon Europe. New Zealand\u2019s research will be showcased to the world as Kiwi scientists work alongside world-leading researchers to solve global challenges under the multibillion-dollar research programme. We will be one of the first non-European countries to offer our researchers access to the European Union\u2019s largest ever research and innovation programme on equal terms with European scientists. This is new funding for New Zealand science and underlines our commitment to building a modern, future-focused science and innovation system.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002201dcd211922d45f095fb471fadb9a8c7\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 8\u2014Police\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022 data-id=\u00229bb7f0b393c046b8b1157b2800d71648\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229bb7f0b393c046b8b1157b2800d71648\u0022\u003EHon MARK MITCHELL (National\u2014Whangapar\u0101oa)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Police: Does she stand by her statement, \u201CIt is my view that New Zealanders feel safer\u201D; if so, why?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022 data-id=\u0022d829527a47824074ac4acbd06205e684\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d829527a47824074ac4acbd06205e684\u0022\u003EHon GINNY ANDERSEN (Minister of Police):\u003C/span\u003E I stand by my full statement in the context of that time: \u201CIt is my view that New Zealanders feel safer with a Government on track to deliver 1,800 extra police.\u201D As the member is aware, we have now delivered over 1,800 extra police.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022303f510981a24bb79b4a894f1011cfb8\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: Why is crime increasing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fb828c01213846fcb099bbb24d08f87a\u0022\u003EHon GINNY ANDERSEN\u003C/span\u003E: There are a number of drivers of crime, and the member is well aware from the Estimates this morning that the two main drivers of crime that increase demand to the police service are both family violence and mental health.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ade588c3c76545739c8a2b57b391168d\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: How can New Zealanders feel safe when, since the member has become Minister of Police, gang numbers have grown by over 300?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022acfd2aadce68477c8a0fabb2de47757b\u0022\u003EHon GINNY ANDERSEN\u003C/span\u003E: I did not say that New Zealanders feel safer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f50ff94c58814415bdeff3aad6da526d\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: So is she saying that New Zealanders shouldn\u2019t feel safer?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fb27cf6c8dd14c2a8e83d2fd2557cbe3\u0022\u003EHon GINNY ANDERSEN\u003C/span\u003E: I have always been clear that what my statement was is that New Zealanders feel safer with 1,800 additional police than they did with fewer police. Those additional police on the front line mean that we have more services, we are quicker to respond, and we are able to provide more referrals into those key areas like family violence and mental health that are the underlying drivers of crime in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e2e26f82ac1c4a57b706e23bb3672f3d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I just want to remind Government members not to interject while a question is being asked.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226d8630a9a0c6430ab2700be040f8c21b\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: So, just to give the Minister the chance to really clear this matter up, does she think that New Zealanders feel safer now in New Zealand\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f5d71749-ae91-4af7-b2bd-77260398912a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f2fffc69830b499ea3ff133b81ee06c8\u0022\u003EHon David Parker\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. There was an inappropriate imputation at the start of that question that did not form part of the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002221fcd629fec644d5aa695c7def20454f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, and I would\u2019ve preferred to hear the whole question. Since becoming the Speaker, the way that I have run question time, according to the will of the House\u2014if that has changed, then the House should let me know\u2014I\u2019ll make a judgment at the end of it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002248a02a21-c1ac-4159-8789-485ad614bd01\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225231baa94b6047e6a778db2a4ca2ffc4\u0022\u003EHon Mark Mitchell\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Mr Speaker. Does the Minister think that Kiwis feel safer today than they did five years ago?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229564a750d78340fcb7885d62f28cdb60\u0022\u003EHon GINNY ANDERSEN\u003C/span\u003E: I cannot speak on behalf of all New Zealanders, but what I can say is that the police in New Zealand are far better resourced than they have ever been. This means we have more resources in our front line to respond to the pressing demands that are on police, and it means we have better investment in those services in mental health and family violence, through Te Aorerekura, to get ahead of those problems that are driving crime within our communities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f8f41f2795634324aa1bdd24fb1a5808\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 9\u2014Social Development and Employment (M\u0101ori Employment)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022 data-id=\u002230ead1cac0ad4bb9b1d0a5d237ac29ff\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002230ead1cac0ad4bb9b1d0a5d237ac29ff\u0022\u003EARENA WILLIAMS (Labour\u2014Manurewa)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister for Social Development and Employment (M\u0101ori Employment): How is the Government supporting rangatahi into training and employment opportunities?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u002281574700c7b74fa4b3dc381276cbb8df\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002281574700c7b74fa4b3dc381276cbb8df\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Associate Minister for Social Development and Employment (M\u0101ori Employment)):\u003C/span\u003E The Government is continuing to support rangatahi in providing more funding into new M\u0101ori trades and training in He Poutama Rangatahi programmes across the country. We\u2019re backing 52 new M\u0101ori kaupapa employment and training programmes, which will help M\u0101ori into further training, sustainable employment, or progress within their chosen careers. Last week in Dunedin, I announced a further $67.1 million to be invested in M\u0101ori trades and training in He Poutama Rangatahi programmes, supporting over 4,000 M\u0101ori across Aotearoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c97d4efab0e042dc89d6b44683bb334c\u0022\u003EArena Williams\u003C/span\u003E: What does this funding mean for rangatahi M\u0101ori?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022209000c2dfdc43afa4206affd38737ef\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, as we know, M\u0101ori are disproportionately disadvantaged in the labour market, and this is why this Government has a specific focus on improving M\u0101ori employment opportunities and outcomes. Programmes like He Poutama Rangatahi and Whakaw\u0101tea te ara Poutama are delivered by providers with a connection to the rangatahi and their wh\u0101nau, and they\u2019ll tailor the programme to meet specific needs and provide wraparound support. We recognise that communities know their people, and community-linked service providers are best placed to deliver on this important mahi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b3b6a0b3308643b8916812198dc1d1f3\u0022\u003EArena Williams\u003C/span\u003E: How is this investment impacting the lives of rangatahi and their wh\u0101nau?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228075e06ef4034238b5754203b2f20482\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: These programmes are not simply about getting people into employment; they all provide wraparound services that support participants to address social issues and support life changes that impact positively both for them, their wh\u0101nau, and the community. We know that intensive support and upskilling will be needed to get young people, in particular, into work, so we\u2019ve worked with providers to co-design programmes to address the need. Programmes can include but are not limited to mentoring, alcohol and drug awareness, reconnecting with whakapapa, and mental health support, such as counselling, life skills, literacy, and numeracy support.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b464a62e-d900-452a-b842-e3cf4ccc6149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f7afa8c620b0455d840bcb28d019c981\u0022\u003EArena Williams\u003C/span\u003E: How effective have these programmes been for rangatahi M\u0101ori?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d6dc152724874ba8b47487f49f0b66f5\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, all good news again: 5,548 young people have gone into employment, education, or training\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022106966ef-8cc3-434a-9dbe-dd76b708c2a1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022edb5e6ce6a9a45a485480bbffd360287\u0022\u003EHon Andrew Little\u003C/span\u003E: How many? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002228b8373f6eb54874b5b74d966c154f23\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: \u20145,548\u2014since 2018; 71 percent of all participants who complete their programmes enter employment, education, and/or training, so it\u2019s going well in that area; 820 participants have enrolled in the M\u0101ori Trades and Training Fund, and 635 have gained employment outcomes, or 77 percent, and 85 percent of whom have been in employment longer than six months. It\u2019s all good news. We\u2019re doing some wonderful work with young people. M\u0101ori trade training\u2014all going well for Te Ao M\u0101ori at the moment. Kia ora, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022681fe2e45f7548f99efbe16b5449adad\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 10\u2014Corrections\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229d892f20-579d-4c43-8247-7ab72c4f7c2e\u0022 data-id=\u0022e015a4a2706d4a8e88707bfec773198b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229d892f20-579d-4c43-8247-7ab72c4f7c2e\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e015a4a2706d4a8e88707bfec773198b\u0022\u003ETONI SEVERIN (ACT)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Corrections: Does he think that assessing a prisoner\u2019s psychological state when they enter prison is important for understanding their rehabilitation needs, and does he also think that assessing a prisoner\u2019s literacy and numeracy skills is important for understanding their education needs?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022 data-id=\u0022e6d1066e2a444544b41aa077d2e0a69d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e6d1066e2a444544b41aa077d2e0a69d\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS (Minister of Corrections):\u003C/span\u003E I think that both things are important in a prison context. I note that delivery of these services has been affected in recent times as Corrections\u2014like many others\u2014has faced challenges with COVID-19 and, more recently, staffing levels. However, I am advised that in the case of psychological reports, Corrections has also made improvements in their approach to risk assessment and is increasingly focusing its psychologists into treatment units and mental health teams. This means that more targeted assessment and support is taking place. Likewise, in the case of literacy and numeracy assessments, I\u2019m advised that Corrections has streamlined the recording of assessments conducted, reducing the number of needless reassessments conducted, and has also seen an increase in the learners recorded in the NZQA database as having a qualification at level 1 of the New Zealand Qualifications Framework (NZQF) or higher, resulting in fewer prisoners requiring assessment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229d892f20-579d-4c43-8247-7ab72c4f7c2e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220b86295477154ace93c3cadee4d6fbb3\u0022\u003EToni Severin\u003C/span\u003E: Is it acceptable that Corrections has done 2,776 fewer psychological assessments on prisoners in 2022-23 compared to 2017-18 and has fallen almost by 38 percent, and how can Corrections know what psychological support prisoners need if they\u2019re not assessing them?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002252f3df0431a54700aab9fd496f6fa5ea\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: Well, again, there\u2019s about three or four questions in that question. Not every person managed by Corrections will require an assessment by a psychologist or is willing to engage with a psychologist. As I said in the answer to the primary question, furthermore: a reduction in these numbers is to be expected, given improvements in Corrections\u2019 approach to risk assessment to ensure that people in prison are not unnecessarily assessed; and an increasing distribution of psychologists in prisons towards treatment and mental health support, targeting support where it is needed. They are also interim numbers, so do not account for a full financial year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229d892f20-579d-4c43-8247-7ab72c4f7c2e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221f14cb78b340493fa19c4b5db5b48b06\u0022\u003EToni Severin\u003C/span\u003E: Is it acceptable that Corrections completed 61 percent fewer literacy assessments and 63 percent fewer numeracy assessments of prisoners in 2022-23 compared to 2018-19; and how can Corrections know what education support prisoners need if they\u2019re not assessing them?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d491cbd0a0fa47dc8f5b8389f6c1df9a\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: As I said in the answer to the primary question: reduction in these numbers is to be expected, given Corrections has streamlined the recording of assessments conducted, reducing the number of needless reassessments conducted; and has also seen an increase in learners recorded in the NZQA database as having a qualification at level 1 of the NZQF or higher, resulting in fewer prisoners requiring assessment. It\u2019s important to note that the interim figures for 2022-23 are already higher than the previous year, so we are making progress returning to pre - COVID-19 levels.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229d892f20-579d-4c43-8247-7ab72c4f7c2e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ec9f8ce7c636462e8291863a7910560d\u0022\u003EToni Severin\u003C/span\u003E: How is it possible that Corrections is doing far fewer psychological, numeracy, and literacy assessments than five years ago, when there are 38 percent fewer sentenced prisoners behind bars?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022802874a3-deca-48b7-9d33-9087058892f5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a44a43bea52148ce994337887b0bc91e\u0022\u003EHon KELVIN DAVIS\u003C/span\u003E: As I said in the answer to the primary question: reduction in these numbers is expected, given Corrections has streamlined the recording of assessments, reducing the number of needless assessments, seeing an increase in learners recorded in the NZQA database as having a qualification at level 1, and resulting in fewer prisoners requiring assessment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022856773a2348d4b28b1225b8bbbbf9645\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. I\u2019m sorry. Due to the Hon Andrew Little shouting across the aisle, I literally couldn\u2019t hear what the Minister was saying and I actually did want to hear it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223b29115763df42749453f6ef8698e7cb\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, I could say that about a number of questions just about every single day. I\u2019ve ruled previously that clearly the House is telling us that it doesn\u2019t want to hear.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002266e9ff72a903441ca18183305fbab1e8\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: But\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002269a9c69deaeb40d08f35caacdb2b8ab9\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, I know what you\u2019re going to say. But you can\u2019t have it both ways. Robust, to me, means both sides of the House. You can\u2019t be complaining about one side when, actually, the side that you\u2019re sitting on also does the same. If the House wants a different way, happy to hear it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225f05e0b7e969497da30795ad4d0b63e5\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Well, Mr Speaker\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cbce5f18a1eb4483b82cc8143c9a676f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: A new point of order, or commentary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dfc52f84f7074dd6b9bd2d3262e5bf2e\u0022\u003EDavid Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: No. I wonder if that particular question might be repeated. If Mr Little can just contain himself, we might hear the answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00220fedde1964c14e3cad74ba151fed57b6\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 11\u2014Education\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022 data-id=\u0022efdd3e06f62b4a6793b89100650af465\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022efdd3e06f62b4a6793b89100650af465\u0022\u003EERICA STANFORD (National\u2014East Coast Bays)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Education: Does she stand by all her statements and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022 data-id=\u0022da196996b4cf4e90b4e9db889ec5dee4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022da196996b4cf4e90b4e9db889ec5dee4\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI (Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E In the context in which they were given, yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002299da1083109d485fa9f03c7de2519a69\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: On what date did the Minister first possess any knowledge or awareness that the term 3 attendance data could be released on the same day as the Government\u2019s truancy announcement on 21 February?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b268977fdbb148b89c96bb22b3aa402b\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Speaker, I\u2019m in a little bit of a difficult position here and I\u2019m going to seek your guidance on this because this is actually currently before the Privileges Committee, to which they haven\u2019t had the report come back to the House. So I\u2019m not certain what I can say in this House or not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c83012b4-3939-4753-80fc-1956a3e2bd1e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d319449900714f81be9be46b374cd5f6\u0022\u003EHon Michael Woodhouse\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to that point, Standing Order 243(1) goes to the question of confidentiality of select committee proceedings, and the Privileges Committee is subject to these Standing Orders: \u201CThe proceedings of a select committee or subcommittee other than during the hearing of evidence are not open to the public and remain strictly confidential\u201D. Now, we\u2019ve had an hour before the committee, where the Minister gave evidence in public, in front of the committee, in front of thousands of people watching around the country, and it\u2019ll be on the 6 o\u2019clock news tonight. I can\u2019t see how that could possibly meet the terms of the confidentiality Standing Orders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cd958d1440404d38a381eae618f8d485\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m going to allow that question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221125a1f521e3423c9bf19d1c58eb2c89\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI\u003C/span\u003E: Can the member repeat the question, please.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f0df55641c2a44b4acdc626e2140fcec\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: On what date did the Minister first possess any knowledge or awareness that the term 3 attendance data could be released on the same day as the Government\u2019s truancy announcement on 21 February?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228a673ae492c04a48b3fc24bd791bf3a0\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI\u003C/span\u003E: I would have to say that, from my recollection, I didn\u2019t have that knowledge until the data was actually released. That was on 23 February, I believe\u2014I haven\u2019t got that information in front of me, but I\u2019m willing to correct that if I have got that wrong.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002220085bdcac354a5cb3efbc3a7944dd9b\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: Why did she definitively tell The AM Show on 21 February that \u201Cterm 3 data is going to be released today by the Ministry of Education\u201D if she had no certainty the attendance data would be released that day?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228cf5ff0f094c4c3790c73a6c77d984df\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI\u003C/span\u003E: That was in the heat of a media interview. I genuinely had no knowledge of when that data was going to be released.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b5ccfc7bd20644b2adf40ed50286c76a\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: Why, in a later interview on Breakfast on the same\u2014[Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222b886907f694437ebfd9e45b478a7b4a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Order! Sorry, can you just start the question again? I couldn\u2019t hear.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228135e941126e4387bd6b359ee5518d80\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: Why is it, on the same day after the AM Show, she stated on the Breakfast show that the data would be released that day or the following day?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a79b459f9e2e4ef6b586a1cb3b6bd30a\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI\u003C/span\u003E: Same reason\u2014exactly the same reason. I genuinely had no knowledge of when that data would be released. I was being interviewed by the media at that particular time. As I said in the committee this morning, I actually had a hope that the data would be released at some point.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002234d5ac8b97bb4566a68ffb26f5774bc1\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Minister making a habit of saying things that she suspects or doesn\u2019t know is true and then standing by them?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229944d2b0aa174302a4397cb09fcbe06a\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI\u003C/span\u003E: No.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002210fd91d74aad48efb52cee8b07934888\u0022\u003EErica Stanford\u003C/span\u003E: Why, when the Minister read emails on 5 April showing the Minister\u2019s office had input into the delaying of the attendance data, didn\u2019t the Minister at that point immediately correct her answer when the House sat the next day?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022935bbcc949fc48e3bbe63ce32ff15ab5\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI\u003C/span\u003E: As I said in the select committee this morning, that was when I started to have some questions around that. I wanted to talk about that with my staff at the time, but then we were going to rise for the recess. At that point in time, I didn\u2019t have the opportunity over the recess\u2014I was on a ministerial trip to Ottawa and Washington. I was going to come back and have that conversation with my staff on 1 May, and then other events happened, such as a letter from yourself.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a451b9f02a4448a8af24d00ef2904fae\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 12\u2014Emergency Management\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022 data-id=\u0022d56e6be406794406b9ce40f7762e71f5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d56e6be406794406b9ce40f7762e71f5\u0022\u003EJAMIE STRANGE (Labour\u2014Hamilton East)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Emergency Management: What recent announcements has he made on emergency management?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022 data-id=\u002289ab3ad4f65441c8bcccdc66c2326ab0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002289ab3ad4f65441c8bcccdc66c2326ab0\u0022\u003EHon KIERAN McANULTY (Minister for Emergency Management):\u003C/span\u003E Yesterday, the Government introduced legislation to modernise our emergency management system. It takes on the lessons from previous responses to natural disasters, including the Christchurch and Kaik\u014Dura-Hurunui earthquakes, and other emergencies. The Emergency Management Bill replaces the two decades of the Civil Defence Emergency Management Act 2002. It is my hope that the select committee process will be able to incorporate any lessons that emerge from the Auckland floods and Cyclone Gabrielle.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002248659d597b564498b2e8fa1b2241fe69\u0022\u003EJamie Strange\u003C/span\u003E: What are the key changes in the bill?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e87aed8c1086433697219171d7ba778b\u0022\u003EHon KIERAN McANULTY\u003C/span\u003E: The key changes include clarifying roles and responsibilities across the system at national, regional, and local levels; requiring civil defence emergency management group plans to identify and engage with communities that are disproportionately impacted by emergencies; recognising the important role M\u0101ori play in Aotearoa New Zealand\u2019s emergency management system; and enhancing M\u0101ori participation at all levels\u2014national, regional, and local, and across strategic planning and operational activity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c2e823af-22b7-4411-8b12-14d7b43680ea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223fbe48b911514be8b9e01dbd32cb10d4\u0022\u003EJamie Strange\u003C/span\u003E: Why is it important for emergency responses to continue to be locally led?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225ab6ddc2971d44bb96f7b6de716753c9\u0022\u003EHon KIERAN McANULTY\u003C/span\u003E: The strength of our emergency management system is that it is locally led, regionally coordinated, and centrally supported. The changes in the bill build on this strength. Locals know their communities best. They know the risks and they are first on the ground when disaster strikes. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00220b2e37d4f2594a6185ed4114bf313ff5\u0022\u003ESpecial Debates\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022824c8a82d7db4f14ae22b587ce441918\u0022\u003ELocal Issues\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022e3ab4e8834754f9da945d35cea54ddfa\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e3ab4e8834754f9da945d35cea54ddfa\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Members, we now come to the debate about local issues, arranged by the Business Committee under Standing Order 80. Can I just let members know that there\u2019s no particular order, but times have been allocated per party.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022 data-id=\u002234c777a0950d486f92154e6fc2966b72\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002234c777a0950d486f92154e6fc2966b72\u0022\u003EMELISSA LEE (National):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the House take note of local issues.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003EThank you very much, Mr Speaker. It\u2019s a great pleasure to rise in this debate. It is my very first time to talk about local issues, and I\u2019d like to talk about the Mt Albert electorate, which was in fact the former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern\u2019s electorate. She\u2019s no longer there, and since then, as the list MP who looks after the Mt Albert area from the National Party, a lot of the community have been in touch, more so than normal. One of the biggest issues that they contact me about is actually law and order and the victimisation in our suburbs, and I\u2019m sure that my colleague Helen White probably also hears about this. The issue of victimisation in the Waitemat\u0101 area has actually gone up tremendously, as well as in Auckland City.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003EI had the Hon Mark Mitchell in the electorate last Friday for a law and order public meeting, which was well advertised, and the room at the Mt Albert Senior Citizens Hall was pretty full and there were people who wanted to discuss issues. One of the stories that a father brought to the meeting was actually really, really moving and touching. He was very emotional, actually, because he was away overseas, and his wife and his daughter had been held up in a home invasion by people with hammers who were threatening them. When he got back, he felt helpless and powerless, and he raised this issue with the police, who were there\u2014and I\u2019d like to take this opportunity to thank the area commander, Alisse Robertson, who came to the meeting to address the meeting and answer questions about the police actions on this lawlessness.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003EWe have had quadruple the number of ram raids in New Zealand. Apparently, there has been a 465 percent increase in the last two years, and the majority of those caught doing these actions\u201470 percent of them\u2014are under the age of 18 years old. The Government has actually spent $6 million on crime prevention, on fog cannons and bollards, but it seems nothing is actually working\u2014well, not effectively, anyway. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003ERetail crime costs this country more than $1 billion a year, and I have to say that when the Minister of Police, Ginny Andersen, earlier answered a question that Mark Mitchell asked her, she said the police are more resourced than ever before. That might be true statistically, but I\u2019d like to urge the Minister to reconsider her answer, considering the fact that front-line police actually feel the brunt of these increases in ram raids and lawlessness in our country, and in every shift of police that I meet with, they are short staffed. They have police, front-line officers, who are away because of stress and because of mental health issues as a result of this lawlessness that they have to actually face day in, day out.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003EThe thing is that this Government doesn\u2019t seem to be dealing with it. The majority of the complaints, apart from the sheer amount of lawlessness that we face in Mt Albert\u2014I mean, we\u2019re talking about the local dairies, or the local coffee shop. There\u2019s Handpicked Coffee Roasters, for example, on New North Road; Stewart Dawsons at St Lukes, the murder of Lena Zhang Harrap in Mount Albert itself, and, obviously, Janak Patel in Sandringham last year, in November. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002256d79365a4c44a2eb4c758296fff8cb4\u0022\u003EHon Scott Simpson\u003C/span\u003E: Labour is soft on crime. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d75ead8514e446e9b05c0b8d2c52a832\u0022\u003EMELISSA LEE\u003C/span\u003E: I mean, we are facing softness in our justice system. \u201CLabour is soft on crime.\u201D is what I\u2019m hearing from the people in Mt Albert, and I\u2019m sure Helen White is actually getting that from the constituents as well, because they feel that we\u2019re not doing enough. They feel that there are not enough police to actually come to their aid. The justice system, they feel, is actually hitting the offenders with a wet bus ticket instead of being harsh so that they understand that they are not supposed to do these actions. The victims are the biggest worry that I have, because when people are victims of home invasion or they\u2019re victims of ram raids, it lasts a long, long time for them to actually get over the crime, and I think this Government needs to do more in this space. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022a0e40c2b495e4f508efa98fea8d3350d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a0e40c2b495e4f508efa98fea8d3350d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Before I give the next call, I just want to remind members that this is a local issues debate. It shouldn\u2019t venture off too far into general policy areas, and I\u2019ll be listening very carefully to this.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u00220736383c93c148ff9a80a9ea45904df1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220736383c93c148ff9a80a9ea45904df1\u0022\u003EGREG O\u2019CONNOR (Labour\u2014\u014Ch\u0101riu):\u003C/span\u003E I stand today to speak on a very local issue, although, saying that, it is something that vicariously members in this House will be involved in. As they fly home tonight to their various locations, I invite them to look out the window as your plane crosses the wonderful \u014Ch\u0101riu electorate, and the wise among you will have noticed that there\u2019s been a change in flight track. A flight that used to go straight up the harbour now turns left and goes across Khandallah, Johnsonville, and Broadmeadows, bringing with it new issues, not least of all is new noise. This, of course, has been the result of changes\u2014operational changes\u2014that are impacting directly on the electorate. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003ENow, Wellington is a wonderful city, it has an airport really very close to its centre, and, of course, there are always going to be issues with airport noise. Having previously lived in the eastern suburbs, I understand that it\u2019s something that many people in different suburbs around airports in New Zealand live with. However, this issue is a change. Recently, Airways have introduced a new flight path and it\u2019s around the DMAPS system. The DMAPS is the Wellington Divergent Missed Approach Protection System. Again, for members who often land at Wellington Airport, when flights currently land, there is a four-mile gap between the flight taking off and the flight landing. That distance being reduced means there is an increased chance, on a missed approach, that the missing plane will actually connect with one that has just taken off. Therefore, a new flight path has been created, and that now goes left so that the planes are on different flight paths, and this is the issue I wish to speak about today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003EAs a local MP, it\u2019s always a little bit of an issue. There\u2019s often a displacement issue involved here, because when noise moves to one part of the city, often it comes from another. However, in this case, the flights were further over the harbour under the old approach. Under the new approach, they are actually now hitting land much lower and much more closely causing this issue. Now, the decision was made by Airways to bring this approach in, and more importantly a decision was made not to consult with locals. One monitor was put in place that did pick up what was thought to be acceptable noise. However, it was introduced on 1 December 2022. No notification was made. The first notification was when Wellington Airport put on their public site that this was actually occurring. But until the complaints started coming in, and considerably more noise was noticed by residents, only then was it seemingly noticed that this change needed to be addressed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003EA local group of residents known as Plane Sense have done an excellent job of coming together and now looking at what has happened, and there will be a public meeting on this shortly. The main issue\u2014and this is an issue that, while it is very much a local issue, all should be aware of\u2014is that when an operational change is brought about like this for purely operational reasons, if some sort of template had been put over the rationale, it would have instantly become obvious that there was going to be some kickback from locals. Now, I don\u2019t want any other Wellingtonians or anyone else to say this is a group of nimbies. It is not. These are people that directly\u2014literally, their houses now, in many cases, are shaking with the effect of these new flight paths. So it has actually brought about considerable change to the lives of many people in this area. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s not going to be a simple matter of just reprogramming the computer to put this back to the old way. What\u2019s going to happen now is that, as a result of pressure by myself and the local group, there will be monitoring stations put in place, four of them in Johnsonville, Broadmeadows, and Khandallah, and it is very likely that\u2014and I\u2019m confident, as are many in this group and many in my electorate\u2014the noise level results that will be monitored will be considerably higher than were predicted. In this case, there will be need for Airways and Wellington Airport to get back to the drawing board and actually start ensuring that, if you\u2019re going to bring in these operational changes, however well intentioned, there needs to be consultation with the local community, so at least, if nothing else, they can be prepared for this and some sort of mediation, some sort of remedial action, can be taken. Thank you for this opportunity to speak to this, to what is, I believe, a very, very local issue. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022e6eaea7761bf41c59d85b330d7d6cb6f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e6eaea7761bf41c59d85b330d7d6cb6f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I understand Dr James McDowall would like a four-minute call. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ff1ad5a3-e02a-4ffe-a961-ef69bdaee1c9\u0022 data-id=\u0022f7f3ca6546604d51a3dafad57558af95\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ff1ad5a3-e02a-4ffe-a961-ef69bdaee1c9\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f7f3ca6546604d51a3dafad57558af95\u0022\u003EDr JAMES McDOWALL (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. Anyone who travels to Wellington by road knows that Transmission Gully delivers a safer and more reliable journey time than the old State highway did. Not only was the old highway heavily congested at the best of times, it was often closed by waves breaking across the road and by, unfortunately, head-on collisions resulting in severe injuries and fatalities. The 15,000 trucks and cars that used to crawl along the vulnerable two-lane coastal road now travel on a four- and six-lane highway separated by concrete barriers. With that traffic redirected to a new, safe road\u2014much nicer road\u2014the lovely coastal towns on the K\u0101piti Coast can become destinations rather than just another set in a series of traffic lights on a State highway. This shows how good infrastructure can deliver social, economic, and environmental benefits. So, then, why have the sponsors of Let\u2019s Get Wellington Moving, a behemoth $7.4 billion road-to-nowhere project, failed to look up the road and learn some lessons from Transmission Gully?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ff1ad5a3-e02a-4ffe-a961-ef69bdaee1c9\u0022\u003EFor Let\u2019s Get Wellington Moving\u2019s total $100 million spend, all they have managed to tangibly produce is a $2.4 million pedestrian crossing near Wellington Airport. A slightly old joke about how to make a small fortune: in this case, take a large fortune and give it to Let\u2019s Get Wellington Moving. I go to Wellington Airport quite a bit, and I haven\u2019t seen a single person using that pedestrian crossing, which is probably a good thing, because it\u2019s in the middle of a busy thoroughfare which is congested enough. It is the most shameful waste of public money on a transport project since the now-cancelled Auckland bike bridge. As my colleague Simon Court, ACT\u2019s transport spokesperson, said recently, \u201CIf spending money was a medal-winning achievement, then Waka Kotahi, the Greater Wellington Regional Council, and Wellington City Council would share the podium.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ff1ad5a3-e02a-4ffe-a961-ef69bdaee1c9\u0022\u003EACT would cancel this project and go back to basics. The Basin Reserve flyover project\u2014declined by a planning committee or tribunal\u2014was meant to unlock traffic congestion and enable efficient public transport between the city and the eastern suburbs, which includes the airport. Instead, Let\u2019s Get Wellington Moving pretends that a light rail to the south coast and sterilising the \u201Cgolden mile\u201D with a parade of buses is somehow going to help the long-suffering citizens of Wellington get to where they need to be. The \u201Cgolden mile\u201D aspect of this project will result in more than a decade of construction work and disruption for local businesses, especially retail, and they will become less accessible as a result\u2014just like the retail businesses affected in Auckland by the City Rail Link. Wellingtonians should be asking what they\u2019re getting for the \u201Cgolden mile\u201D project. They can already walk these routes. They can bike. They can take buses if they choose to do so. All this project will do is take away the most flexible point-to-point option that is using a private vehicle.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ff1ad5a3-e02a-4ffe-a961-ef69bdaee1c9\u0022\u003EThen there\u2019s the safety element: people leaving bars on Courtenay Place late at night, for instance, all of a sudden can\u2019t get a taxi or an Uber just outside the entrance, and, presuming the bus isn\u2019t going anywhere where they need it to go, the only option is to walk down a potentially dodgy, dimly lit side street to try and find a more useful transport option. This project is based on ideology that would be embraced by the likes of the Restore Passenger Rail protestors who glue themselves to roads and motorways in Wellington, causing chaos and frustration for motorists and bus users alike. The priorities are all wrong. They should be getting Wellingtonians to and from places that they need to work and to take their families with them, but instead they\u2019ve focused on delivering the Government\u2019s carbon reduction agenda. That is the same Government that can\u2019t even electrify its own fleet.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ff1ad5a3-e02a-4ffe-a961-ef69bdaee1c9\u0022\u003EACT agrees with the seven councillors now who have no confidence in this multibillion-dollar transport plan. It\u2019s an outrageous waste of public money. The wheels have fallen off, and it needs to go. Sadly, what we have is a green activist dream. It\u2019s got nothing to do with getting Wellington moving; in fact, it is completely the opposite. Thank you, Madam Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022 data-id=\u0022a4e3b5cfee454db5b114b098f18276a4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a4e3b5cfee454db5b114b098f18276a4\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON (National\u2014Coromandel):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. I rise in this local debate as the member of Parliament for Coromandel to speak on behalf of the people who live in the Coromandel, who do business in the Coromandel, and who visit the Coromandel, to talk about the fact that we are now into nearly 5\u00BD months of the main arterial Coromandel Peninsula Road, State Highway 25A, remaining closed and causing enormous heartache, inconvenience, and grief to all those people who love the Coromandel.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ENow, it was just yesterday that we finally, after 5\u00BD months, had confirmation of the commercial consortium that is going to be engaged to build the bridge that will span the chasm, which was the drop out in the highway that closed that road back in January of this year, following wet weather and heavy weather damage caused by Cyclone Hale and then, subsequently, by Cyclone Gabrielle. So, since that period of time, the good people of Coromandel have been left in very uncertain circumstances. Their day-to-day lives are inconvenienced; cost and time is added to any and all travel across the peninsula to and from the eastern seaboard. Visitors have stopped coming in the large numbers that they would normally do. In fact, just last weekend, on the King\u2019s Birthday weekend, it was noticeable how few people were actually in the Coromandel spending time and money in an economy that so desperately relies on people coming and spending their hard-earned dollars in our patch. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EBut it\u2019s not just across the Coromandel peninsula, in my electorate, that has been bruised, battered, but not beaten; further south from the peninsula, just last week, more homes were inundated and flooded by heavy weather at Waih\u012B Beach, and my thoughts and condolences go to those people who\u2019ve had their lives and their homes impacted so negatively. Then, further south again, close towards \u014Cmokoroa and Katikati, at the southern end of my beautiful electorate, traffic and roading issues are again causing enormous delays and frustration and lost productivity to people travelling on State Highway 2, who are impacted by the construction of a cycleway on the Wairoa Bridge just north of Bethlehem in Tauranga. So, for weeks now\u2014indeed, it\u2019s been a month or more\u2014there have been incredibly long peak-hour traffic delays, leading to massive inconvenience to people in \u014Cmokoroa, Katikati, and anyone travelling on that piece of State Highway 25. So these are issues that in my electorate\u2014roading, weather, access to infrastructure\u2014are crucial matters. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EFor nearly 5\u00BD months, we have been told that it would be early 2024 before State Highway 25 was reopened. I have been consistently saying that that road needs to be opened sooner than that. It needs to be opened before Christmas. The people of the Coromandel need to have certainty so they can plan their lives, so they can plan their businesses, so they can organise matters that are so important to them\u2014and we don\u2019t have that certainty. Now, the Government has been saying it will be early 2024 before that road was reopened. Well, I want to tell this House that I think we have been led down a merry path by the current Government, because, in response to a written question, we find out that\u2014and this is question No. 14088, which was answered by the Minister of Transport; well, the then Minister of Transport, the Hon Michael Wood. He says that, of the options that are being considered for the road\u2014and he gives some time frames: the bridge option has an estimated duration of 12 to 14 months before completion; 12 to 14 months. By my calculations, that takes us well into at least this time next year, June next year, 2024, or possibly into August, September, or even October of next year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EFor the good people of the Coromandel, that is simply unacceptable, and I want to encourage this Government, the New Zealand Transport Agency, and, indeed, our local Thames-Coromandel District Council to apply more pressure for an urgent solution to the roading problems and hassles and disruptions that are causing such grief to the people that live in, love, and enjoy the beautiful Coromandel.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002296f5f6b7-c116-477e-88a9-ea17aa616886\u0022 data-id=\u0022430eb0e32225476bbdd09ca3c85af418\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002296f5f6b7-c116-477e-88a9-ea17aa616886\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022430eb0e32225476bbdd09ca3c85af418\u0022\u003EINGRID LEARY (Labour\u2014Taieri):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. I\u2019m delighted to tell you about the Hillside railway workshops and how they are transforming South Dunedin, but, perhaps more importantly, what economic benefits they open up for the region. In doing so, I\u2019d just like to acknowledge the late Jim Kelly from the Rail and Maritime Transport Union\u2014which I am a member of\u2014who worked so tirelessly for the revitalisation of the workshops, and I also acknowledge my predecessor the Hon Claire Curran.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002296f5f6b7-c116-477e-88a9-ea17aa616886\u0022\u003EIn 2012, the previous National Government said that they were going to, effectively, close down Hillside, and 90 jobs were lost. That was quite a different feeling from the days of 1935, when there were 800 workers working in the workshops to help build train carriages. Many of my constituents are descendants of those workers, so there was a real sense of pessimism and depression in the area. But thanks to investment by our Government of $105 million over several Budgets, the wagon assembly will be revitalised, and now we can see the visible difference on the skyscape in South Dunedin. We can see buildings going up.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002296f5f6b7-c116-477e-88a9-ea17aa616886\u0022\u003EI was walking through there recently with the Minister of Finance, the Hon Grant Robertson, and then again with the Prime Minister, and there is just a great sense of excitement. There are men and women construction workers. There are about 200 construction jobs happening to make the workshops come to fruition, and the lead contractor, I\u2019m very proud to say, is Calder Stewart, based in my electorate, in Milton, who have got a fantastic track record for doing this type of work. When Hillside is up and running, the locomotive mechanical workshop will be able to work on 21 locomotives at one time, and it will be able to assemble 1,500 wagons over three years. There will be 45 new jobs, 10 percent of which will be through apprenticeships or trainees, and when the office block is finished, there\u2019ll be 170 staff on site. So the future is looking bright, and parts of Hillside will be operational next year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002296f5f6b7-c116-477e-88a9-ea17aa616886\u0022\u003EBut what I think is so exciting is that this speaks to the revitalisation of rail generally. I am hoping it means that we will eventually see a strategy around port and rail that will see the South Island able to act autonomously, so if we get border closures such as through events like COVID, we will be able to have alternative ports and rail for New Zealand to be able to continue those supply chains. My dream for my electorate is to have an inland port, such as what we\u2019ve seen in Hamilton with the work that my colleague Jamie Strange did there to help get that investment happening. That is a real game-changer. It means we can get trucks off the road. At the moment, we\u2019ve got trucks coming into Dunedin at the rate of about one every eight minutes, I\u2019m told by one of the unions. The port is creaking with the logs that are there, and we are seeing excavation happening in the port as the big ships come in to try and move those logs off. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002296f5f6b7-c116-477e-88a9-ea17aa616886\u0022\u003EIn order for this to happen, I do think there will be need to be a streamlining of consenting, because there is a willingness across the electorate to have some kind of inland port, but there\u2019s a number of consents that have to be gone through, and when people have a vested interest\u2014such as Dunedin City Council or the Invercargill City Council\u2014in having a port, they may not necessarily support an inland port, which is a great proposition. So I think, perhaps, in the future, we could look at economic development, and at streamlining that so that electorates like mine can take advantage of it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002296f5f6b7-c116-477e-88a9-ea17aa616886\u0022\u003EThe other element to all of this is just rail and the part that Hillside in particular has played in the history of South Dunedin. We have a fantastic industrial heritage story, and I\u2019m really proud that KiwiRail has committed to keeping one of the buildings. It\u2019s using what\u2019s called, I think, the \u201C1920 building\u201D\u2014but it was actually built in the 1870s\u2014as a storage site. That\u2019s fantastic. There is another managers\u2019 building that\u2019s being used by the unions, which has got a little bit of a question mark over it, and negotiations are ongoing with a local group about whether that building, or parts of it, can be saved. I\u2019m really keen that the story of that building is kept alive and well, and I\u2019m really grateful to KiwiRail for the engagement that they\u2019ve had with the local community. It\u2019s just all a great-news story. Hillside Workshops are transforming South Dunedin.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022 data-id=\u0022f2778f3ea18d4c898c37a694b09cdca0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f2778f3ea18d4c898c37a694b09cdca0\u0022\u003ERICARDO MEN\u00C9NDEZ MARCH (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. I\u2019m really pleased to see the Mt Albert electorate getting a bit of love today, and rightfully so, because the electorate is a network of communities, each with their identity. We\u2019ve got so many families who have long, deep roots in the community and who are deeply invested in the changing electorate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EIndeed, it is an electorate that is changing, with housing developments and young families raising children changing the landscape. This is why it\u2019s so important that we all get behind supporting the many schools and organisations who are calling for the Inner West Projects to be resumed. It is a project that has a seven-year - plus history, receiving commitment and funding from both National and Labour Governments, yet Auckland Transport hasn\u2019t gotten on board with actually doing what is needed. It\u2019s a project that will deliver improved cycleways in areas such as Grey Lynn, Westmere, and Point Chev. It was due to start last year but, unfortunately, it was recently paused and is now in peril of actually not going ahead in the way that was planned.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EThe problem, though, is that as our schools, communities, and other advocates are calling for improved transport infrastructure, the project stalled at a time when 34 mature trees were felled\u2014at a time when we know the importance of tree protection in our communities and the importance that good transport infrastructure and tree protection plays in protecting our communities from flooding events, which Mt Albert saw at the beginning of the year. So now our communities are faced with the challenge of having mature trees being felled for the project. Yet, without the cycleways\u2014that would have actually given greater safety for the children of Mt Albert, who in a great proportion walk or cycle to school. The children themselves who cycle to school and the young adults who cycle to school have spoken out in favour of this project and how important it is for them to be safe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EI did want to quote a Mt Albert local, Radha Patel, who studied at Western Springs College, who talked about the need to move on quickly with this project to prevent further tragedies and for young people to not be injured on their way to school. They talked about the fact that \u201CWe can\u2019t wait for a tragedy to happen before we start valuing and prioritising the lives of students in our community.\u201D Back then, when she was advocating on this project, she delivered a petition with several thousand signatures to her local board. This project has support from schools such as the Newton Central School, Grey Lynn School, Westmere School, Western Springs College, Pasadena Intermediate School, and Point Chevalier School. It just shows that there\u2019s a deep level of investment from our communities for council to move on in partnership with central government, alongside local businesses and communities, to provide decent transport infrastructure.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EThis is important. Having a connected city and a connected Mt Albert electorate is important, particularly when there are housing projects that will bring new families into the area, with places like Carrington Road seeing greater density of housing, which will be good for the climate and good for the people. Yet, without the transport infrastructure in place, it actually risks not creating the cohesive communities that we need. It is more important now than ever that we all rally behind improved infrastructure projects. In relation to the housing projects nearby, it is really important that, as we build greater density, central government also provides funding for community venues to go alongside it. Often with K\u0101inga Ora projects, what is happening is that there\u2019s commercial spaces to go alongside the public housing projects and then communities have to compete with commercial entities to be able to provide the social services and goods to create thriving, cohesive communities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EThose are key solutions to the general feedback that people just want safe communities around them. As other members may want to talk about whistle-blowing comments on crime and justice, it\u2019s the good infrastructure and safe communities and listening to the young adults, the children, and the schools who are calling for this that we all have to listen to, and we will continue\u2014hopefully, all of us\u2014advocating for decent infrastructure in Mt Albert.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022 data-id=\u00226967e790b7e545ce9f944c29df691c8d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226967e790b7e545ce9f944c29df691c8d\u0022\u003EHon MEKA WHAITIRI (Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. It\u2019s a real privilege to take a call in this local debate. I want to talk about two particular orchards. I want to talk about Ng\u0101i Tukairangi Trust and W\u012B Pere Trust. These two orchards, despite being devastated through both Hale and Gabrielle, are finalists in this year\u2019s Ahuwhenua horticultural awards, which are on tomorrow evening in Tauranga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI want to talk particularly about Ng\u0101i Tukairangi Trust: it\u2019s 106 hectares, mainly kiwifruits and apples, in \u014Cmahu, and if people had watched Gabrielle and the devastation, \u014Cmahu was one of those images we saw on televisions where the banks came over and the marae and the urup\u0101 were completely flooded out. Well, this particular orchard is just up the road from the devastation of that river. They also called for volunteers because it was their first cropping of kiwifruit, and they called for local volunteers because their crops were deemed to be unusable. This was their first crop of beautiful kiwifruit, and I answered the call, like many, to go there and help to take the fruit off the trees. It was devastating, because there were millions and millions of dollars that we were picking to drop on the ground. I\u2019m really proud that they are one of the finalists in this year\u2019s Ahuwhenua awards, so I want to mihi out to Ratahi Cross and to all the owners and the chairs of this particular orchard: 106 hectares in \u014Cmahu. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EThe other orchard I want to mention is W\u012B Pere, which is a 79-hectare mixed-hort operation in T\u016Branga-nui-a-Kiwa flat areas. It has kiwifruit, persimmons, citrus, blueberries, and apples. Again, another one of our great orchards throughout my electorate devastated through recent flooding, but they still find themselves being classed as a finalist in one of the longest-running horticultural pastoral awards in this country. Can I just acknowledge that Ahuwhenua was created by Sir Apirana Ngata and Lord Bledisloe back in 1933, so it is New Zealand\u2019s oldest continuous horticultural and pastoral awards system. So I wanted to stand up and acknowledge these particular orchards that are in the final. But I also want to pay a tribute to Whiritoa Orchards, which is located in Te Teko, because they\u2019re the third finalists.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s important that when we are talking about local issues\u2014particularly as we\u2019re trying to deal with the aftermath of Gabrielle\u2014we still have some gems that come through. These two local gems are mine, which is why I want to draw attention to that and say that, despite some of our challenges in our electorate of Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti, we\u2019ve got these amazing operations that employ local people, that are on whenua M\u0101ori, and that operate in a very M\u0101ori kaupapa way, and they should be celebrated.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003EI also want to talk about the young growers who are also nominated for tomorrow\u2019s award. I want to acknowledge Alix Te Kere, Erica Henare, and Grace Rehu. The reason why I want to acknowledge all of them is because Alix is Ng\u0101ti Kuhungunu, Ng\u0101ti Tu, Ng\u0101ti Maru, Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto; Erica Henare is Ng\u0101ti Kuhungunu, Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto; and Grace Rehu is from Rangit\u0101ne. So these people whakapapa to my electorate of Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti, which is why it makes it especially pleasing for me to stand and put a spotlight on the positivity, despite some of the challenges of the people throughout Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti, but I particularly draw our attention, and this House\u2019s attention, to our ability to grow good things. I come from an area that grows great food and grows great people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022073496a0-73b7-426f-97f8-916bd542b0fa\u0022\u003ESo it has been a delight to acknowledge Ng\u0101i Tukairangi Trust, Whiritoa Orchards, and, of course, W\u012B Pere, as the shared 2023 Ahuwhenua horticultural finalists for this year, and our young Alix Te Kere, Erica Henare, and Grace Rehu. Despite our challenges, we have these gems amongst us, and it\u2019s important that this House takes the time, like I have done, to acknowledge them. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022 data-id=\u0022f3d351aafad9468bb693c1a46e6f6c8e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f3d351aafad9468bb693c1a46e6f6c8e\u0022\u003EPAUL EAGLE (Labour\u2014Rongotai):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. I want to talk about the electorate of Rongotai, here in Wellington, and who can\u2019t talk about it when the incumbent has a majority of 19,207 votes? But can I just divert for a minute and acknowledge those five vulnerable citizens who died in the blaze at Loafers Lodge on Tuesday, 16 March, and I know that on the 15th of this month at St Paul\u2019s, at 5.30 p.m., there will be a memorial service there. Can I thank all of my colleagues for the mahi and for the compassion that you have put in for those people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EToday, I want to talk about the best part of the electorate. Wellington\u2019s south-east? No, it\u2019s R\u0113kohu, Wharekauri, the Chatham Islands, and I too want to start with an acknowledgment, to Mrs Raana Tuuta, who was the recipient of a Queen\u2019s Service Medal in the recent King\u2019s Honours List. I want to acknowledge her work of more than 60 years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EFor those who land on the Chathams at the Inia Wiremu Tuuta Memorial Airport, you will see her smiling face, and\u2014she won\u2019t mind me saying this\u2014at 85, she\u2019s still working there. She\u2019ll probably make you a cup of tea if the plane\u2019s a bit late. But none the less, she\u2019s wired to serve, and, certainly, she\u2019s been on the Chatham Islands County Council, on that Department of Conservation conservation board, she\u2019s taught kapa haka at Te One School there, but, most of all, I think she runs a farm still and looks after the golden oldies. So, if any of you get down there for lunch, the mutton\u2019s in the oven, the blue cod and the crayfish are out, and it\u2019ll be Raana Tuuta who is serving you. So you are truly deserving.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EI digressed for a minute there, but I want to now talk about the four entities on the island, and they are the Chatham Islands Council, the Chatham Islands Enterprise Trust, Hokotehi Moriori Trust, and Ng\u0101ti Mutunga O Wharekauri Iwi Trust. They are the four entities who make up the Chatham Islands and provide that on-island leadership. It\u2019s been demonstrated through an investment strategy\u2014a mechanism produced and led by them to say, \u201CThese are the bread and butter things that we need for Chatham Islanders.\u201D, and the first thing\u2014and I want to thank all of those four stakeholders for their mahi\u2014is the broadband. Many of you won\u2019t know that, up until 18 months ago, you couldn\u2019t make a cellphone call on that island. They didn\u2019t have a broadband network\u2014the basics. They couldn\u2019t make calls from their farms out on the coast, out on the water, or just everyday life\u2014the basic things that we take for granted. That\u2019s been put in place for $11 million. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EThe key thing, though, is that the Chatham Islands are now in the jet age. Thanks to that runway extension put in there by the Ministry of Works all those years ago, and thanks to the enterprise trust for their leadership, there\u2019ll be a jet plane about to land on that island. So that\u2019s a significant thing, too.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EBut I say that the biggest thing is the renewable energy: $10 million to ensure that they can decarbonise the island. But, more than that, this is about making sure that their power bills, which are some of the highest in the world, are cut in half or slashed even further. I want to just read out something from one of the islanders. She said, \u201CWhen power is so expensive per unit, those on fixed income, be it sickness, superannuation, or similar\u2014something has to go. Wh\u0101nau here are paying up to $800 for their power in winter. We have a wood-range fire with a wetback, a wood fire in the lounge, a gas range for cooking, no electric water, and still our power bill is roughly $400 to $500.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003EThese are some of the costs that are affecting our people\u2014New Zealanders living 800 kilometres offshore\u2014and those that tried to save power had damp homes, leading to deteriorating health. \u201CHeating the stars\u201D is their favourite saying, as housing repairs for many are needed. These are the things that are really making a difference for everyday New Zealanders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022217f4585-f6ef-408d-9318-8a6b8506920b\u0022\u003ECan I finish by acknowledging Owen Pickles, the retiring chief executive of the Chatham Islands Council, with 53 years of local government service and 21 years as the chief executive. He was sent there to sort the council out, close it down, or look at another option. What he did was he came up with a viable alternative through a Crown appropriation. We\u2019re all paying for the council to operate, but it\u2019s the right thing to do because they want to govern themselves, and so they should. All the best to you, Owen, and your wife, Lynette. Kia ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022 data-id=\u0022f0bf89884aaf457db62446d07b70837b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f0bf89884aaf457db62446d07b70837b\u0022\u003EHARETE HIPANGO (National):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise to take a call in this local issues debate as the member of Parliament for the National Party based in Te Tai Hau\u0101uru. Te Tai Hau\u0101uru is the Western M\u0101ori seat, that has an extensive history, and I have t\u016Bpuna whose photographs are in the hallway for having been the first member of Parliament for Western M\u0101ori, Paetahi Takarangi Mete K\u012Bngi. So I stand in this local issues debate in the context of being local, with w\u2019akapapa to Te Tai Hau\u0101uru, and also as issue, as uri, as a descendant of my forebears who have been members of Parliament in this House for Western M\u0101ori formerly, now Te Tai Hau\u0101uru. So I stand to take a call in this local issues debate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003ETe Tai Hau\u0101uru is a M\u0101ori seat. It is the second-largest of the seven M\u0101ori seats, which encompasses nine to 10 general seat electorates. The geography of Te Tai Hau\u0101uru, to give context in terms of the local issues\u2014and the Rt Hon Adrian Rurawhe is the member of Parliament elected as the representative for Te Tai Hau\u0101uru. So, in speaking to this House as a M\u0101ori member of the National Party, and as M\u0101ori standing in a M\u0101ori seat in the upcoming elections, we always reference and connect with w\u2019akapapa, our genealogical, ancestral ties. I am uri, I am issue, of many of the tribes, and there are some 42 tribal entities within this vast electorate, to give context to the scale and the size.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EI also whanaungatanga\u2014I have relationships, I network, I have those connections which are important right throughout the electorate, which starts at the bottom end of Te Ika-a-M\u0101ui, the North Island, in Mana-Porirua. Then, it stretches up, weaves through the western coast; Te Tai Hau\u0101uru, encompassing Whanganui, Taranaki, up to Southern Waikato. So it extends as far as Waikato to Put\u0101ruru, and T\u012Brau is the upper point and reach, and then it weaves its way back down through T\u012Brau, Put\u0101ruru, Tokoroa, Mangakino, the western reach of the Taup\u014D lake, through to Wai\u014Duru, Taumarunui, encompassing Te K\u016Biti\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d90b5d5fa3104bf5bf522434ca9b685f\u0022\u003EBarbara Kuriger\u003C/span\u003E: Kia ora!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221f39f877d49945be9112cdea19d53977\u0022\u003EHARETE HIPANGO\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014down through to Taihape\u2014with my colleague Barbara Kuriger, MP for Taranaki - King Country\u2014Marton, Rangit\u012Bkei, and again connecting Palmerston North, Manawat\u016B, down through, swerving Paraparaumu, the K\u0101piti coastline, and then rejoins in Mana-Porirua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002277aaf1af45ce4d4488754bce13969e63\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa)\u003C/span\u003E: Great. If the member can come now to the local issue. Now that we\u2019ve got the geographical picture, come now to the local issue. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002203d6a89ca3dc47f8988b04b8c0934efd\u0022\u003EHARETE HIPANGO\u003C/span\u003E: That is a local issue, and it is about sharing that with members of the public listening in, because the expanse of our electorates in M\u0101ori seats is huge, as are the local issues. So my two colleagues who spoke in the House before\u2014the Ahuwhenua awards. There are many of those\u2014trusts, M\u0101ori entities\u2014within that vast electorate of Te Tai Hau\u0101uru who will be present there; w\u2019akapapa relationships.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EThe local issues that are impacting on that vast geography and vast demography of our communities: our people are labouring under this Labour Government. Cost of living: our wh\u0101nau are trying to feed each other. Cost of living: our wh\u0101nau are struggling to pay the bills. Access to health services has deteriorated and worsened. Mental health: I was in the local hospital of Whanganui, supporting one of our locals in terms of being able to access those services. Hospital care also has worsened under this Government. W\u2019akapapa and relationships are so important, and these are issues that are impacting on those 10 general seat electorates encompassed within the one M\u0101ori seat. We know that M\u0101ori struggle and that the challenges are greater. I heard my colleague talking about the cost of power bills. This is the reality. Our wh\u0101nau are struggling.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022868f3a11-6a23-474f-a25e-6bc1d4c6e93f\u0022\u003EThe relationships are extensive, the issues are extensive, in terms of how it\u2019s affecting our wh\u0101nau to be able to put kai on the table, to feed and to be nourished. So, in addressing that, I say, importantly, that an advocate for our communities must be bold, must be brave, and must challenge this Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022 data-id=\u002222bc53cf776c421584da926d5052825b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002222bc53cf776c421584da926d5052825b\u0022\u003EKAREN CHHOUR (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. It is a pleasure to stand up and talk about local issues; it\u2019s been a while since I last spoke to this issue. At the time, the issue was around chip seal on roads, and that seemed to be one of the biggest issues in my area. But, unfortunately, when I\u2019m going around the streets now, talking to people in the shops and in public meetings, the number one concern when I ask, \u201CWhat would you like us to be speaking about to make sure that we\u2019re actually representing what\u2019s on your mind?\u201D is crime. Crime is on the minds of the people in Upper Harbour, on the North Shore side of Auckland.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022\u003EWe\u2019ve had lots of incidents at the moment where people are actually telling me they\u2019re scared to walk the streets at night; they\u2019re not sure if they\u2019re going to be safe. I\u2019m hearing from parents that are scared to send their kids to their after-school jobs in the supermarkets in concern about whether they\u2019re going to come home having been assaulted, or whether they\u2019re going to come home having been verbally assaulted to the point where they\u2019re actually in tears, not wanting to go to work the next day. This is all in the beautiful area of North Shore. I\u2019ve heard stories even in my backyard about cars getting stolen, tools getting stolen to the point where fathers are waking up at the littlest sound because they can\u2019t get to sleep at night. They\u2019re scared for their families, and their mental health is deteriorating. These are the stories I\u2019m hearing in my local area.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022\u003EProbably the biggest crime is around ram raids on the North Shore, and the fear this is causing for the staff and even for people visiting these areas. We\u2019ve had Albany mall with a daytime ram raid, we\u2019ve had Glenfield Mall with a daytime ram raid, and we\u2019ve had ram raids in Takapuna just down the road from a local police station. People are saying, \u201CWhy is this happening? Why are we not safe in our streets on the North Shore of Auckland at the moment?\u201D I\u2019ve also heard stories from staff where they\u2019re scared to actually confront the issues in a retail space. And these are young people and they shouldn\u2019t have to be dealing with this, and they\u2019re talking about working at the front end of a retail store. They may have someone that comes in and decides to shoplift or comes in and decides to verbally abuse them. When they do stand up to this kind of behaviour, one staff member told me that the person came back and sought revenge and actually followed one of the staff members into a bathroom and beat them up\u2014actually sought revenge for a staff member just doing their job.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002286ae9a20-33bd-4912-8dc1-5b4eb670be44\u0022\u003EThis is what\u2019s happening on the North Shore in Auckland, and it\u2019s actually really sad. I\u2019d like to see us go back to the place where we just feel safe and feel like we\u2019re all looking after one another.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u00220cafe8f7f8214180bf53baa0378fe11b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220cafe8f7f8214180bf53baa0378fe11b\u0022\u003ETEANAU TUIONO (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. Happy World Oceans Day, everybody. It\u2019s important to think global but also act local, and that thought came to me when I was visiting up north. Like many urban-born Ng\u0101puhi, I like to go up north to remind my relatives what I look like. I think some of them can\u2019t forget me fast enough, but I had the privilege of going up there and hanging out with one of my whanaunga, Reina Penney. She took me for a bit of a tiki tour around the Hokianga and Northland. If you\u2019re looking for a good Green voice to represent you in this place, check out my whanaunga Reina\u2014good heart for the environment, good heart for the community\u2014and also my other whanaunga standing for Te Tai Tokerau, H\u016Bhana Lyndon, my whanaunga there from Pehi\u0101wiri Marae. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EWe went for a bit of a wander around and we actually stopped at the Kohukohu Pub\u2014a very classic pub, a very nostalgic pub. It was like the hotel in \u201CHotel California\u201D\u2014you can check out any time you like, but if you don\u2019t leave, you might miss the ferry to R\u0101wene! The locals there were so passionate about the area; they were so passionate about the harbour. I was chatting to one guy; he was rocking his Red Bands, and I\u2019d like to have Red Bands myself, but I\u2019m waiting for the green bands to come in so I can stay on point and stay on brand! But they were talking about all the sediment that has been going into the harbour. They were talking about the environmental impact and damage done through the years, through the decades\u2014the human sewage that has been going into the harbour; really heart-breaking stuff. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EWe went and visited people and they continue to talk about this stuff. It reminded me that, actually, a few years back, I was in Waitangi with the locals that organised the h\u012Bkoi on Waitangi Day to protest, to push back, and to raise awareness about it\u2014to raise awareness about all this t\u016Btae and tiko going into the Hokianga Harbour. Going into the Hokianga Harbour\u2014it\u2019s disgraceful. It\u2019s disgraceful because it tramples on tikanga M\u0101ori. It tramples on the history of that place, because there\u2019s a really deep, deep, meaningful history in the Hokianga. It is the place where Nukutawhiti came with the Ng\u0101tokimatawhaorua. It\u2019s the place where Ru\u0101nui came with the M\u0101mari waka. It\u2019s the place where the Hokianga got its name\u2014Hokianga Whakapau Karakia. We\u2019re exhausted with karakia because of the situation that was happening there\u2014so very, very deep, deep history there. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EAlso, it is one of the places where the Treaty of Waitangi was signed, where people gathered together to sign that founding document of our country. So there\u2019s a rich history there; there\u2019s a rich culture there. Then, of course, there\u2019s the people themselves\u2014the people that love that place, that love that area, that have been pushing for, I understand, more than 40 years to stop the practice of putting human sewage or putting sewage into the wai. Places like the Hokianga are like p\u0101taka kai. They are like food baskets for the area, and to have human sewage in there is just not acceptable. So I would encourage all the councils\u2014the Far North District Council, the Northland Regional Council body\u2014to sort it out and to sort it out now. People have been waiting for long enough to get this situation sorted out. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EHaving said that, I do think that there is a role here for central government\u2014there is a role here for central government. We can\u2019t just leave it for the affordable water services stuff to roll out and to maybe land and happen. There\u2019s something that must be done now. There must be something to do within that transitional phase. You can\u2019t just kick the can down to the affordable water services processes when we don\u2019t know how the dice are going to end up in October\u2014right? So, between now and then, it is important that the Government stump up some support to help the transition, because they\u2019re doing other stuff in other places around Northland and looking at other strategies around finding land-based solutions but also other ways of dealing with waste water within the short term as well, while you get to that place. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003ESo I would like, once again, to acknowledge all of the work of the people of the community up in Hokianga, and also right across the north there as well, people that have been holding e mauri o te wai, i te mea ko t\u0113r\u0101 te \u0101hua o t\u0101tou. Kia pai te mauri o te wai, e pai ana te mauri o te moana, e ora ana te mauri o te tangata. N\u014D reira Hokianga Whakapau Karakia, anei ng\u0101 K\u0101k\u0101riki e mihi ana ki a koutou katoa. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou e te Whare.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E[people that have been holding te mauri o te wai, because that is how we are. When the life force of the water is good, the life force of the ocean is good, and the life force of humanity is healthy. So Hokianga Whakapau Karakia, here are the Greens greeting all of you. Greetings to all of us in the House.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022db7fcb82-2c50-44e1-9f32-d9138c14006e\u0022 data-id=\u0022855c930f01374791bccfbd651b8fe69e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022db7fcb82-2c50-44e1-9f32-d9138c14006e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022855c930f01374791bccfbd651b8fe69e\u0022\u003ELEMAUGA LYDIA SOSENE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. It\u2019s a real pleasure to take a call on this special debate on local matters. Last night, I was given the opportunity to make a contribution to the Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Exemption for Race Meetings) Amendment Bill, and I do want to acknowledge the member Ian McKelvie. But this is about local matters, and I wanted to report to the House with regards to alcohol in our local community. It\u2019s really just to highlight where we\u2019ve come.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022db7fcb82-2c50-44e1-9f32-d9138c14006e\u0022\u003EI\u2019m going to roll back a bit: in 2012, the then National Government passed the Sale and Supply of Alcohol Act 2012. Basically, what that meant was that businesses could come into our local area and consumers were able to come into their shops and purchase alcohol and take it off the licensed premises. Well, back in 2013, a shop called\u2014oh, it escapes me now. But anyway, they set up shop across from one of our local high schools, Southern Cross Campus\u2014straight across from the school gate. Now, the issue of alcohol in our area of M\u0101ngere at that time in 2013\u2014there were just far too many issues with regards to alcohol. One of the issues for our community was that our young people, who were actually probably 14, 15, 16 at the time, actually looked about 21, 22, 23. So they were able to purchase under age, but we couldn\u2019t prove it at the time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022db7fcb82-2c50-44e1-9f32-d9138c14006e\u0022\u003ELong story short, the new Sale and Supply of Alcohol Act 2012 enabled businesses to do that, so there was nothing illegal about that activity. I just wanted to highlight that, in the community, we were able to collaborate; we were able to work as a partnership. And, as a resilient community, individuals and community leaders came together and they worked with the then local council board people and mobilised, and, basically, they got involved when there were new licences and, because of the legislation, were able to object to those new licences.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022db7fcb82-2c50-44e1-9f32-d9138c14006e\u0022\u003EI wanted to highlight that there is a good news story, and it is about participation as a community. It is about education that there is a place for alcohol, but it\u2019s just that if there are far too many licences and it is far too accessible for our young people, then sometimes our young people don\u2019t have the maturity to make good decisions. So I wanted to report that, as a result of the community leaders, as a result of parents who wanted to mobilise and object, the process that was under the district licensing Act enabled the community to be empowered, to come together, and be able to participate to give their lived-experience voices for why it is not a good thing to have an alcohol shop across from a school gate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022db7fcb82-2c50-44e1-9f32-d9138c14006e\u0022\u003ESo what I wanted to bring to the House was that I have really been involved in the process, like our member Aupito William Sio. We have appreciated the Government\u2019s assistance by way of the police, by way of Te Whatu Ora, by way of also Minister of Justice Kiri Allan, who has come to our community, who has listened to the issues, and who has helped the community to understand the legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022db7fcb82-2c50-44e1-9f32-d9138c14006e\u0022\u003EI just want to end off by acknowledging the individuals in our community who have led the charge in terms of educating the community, when they\u2019re not happy with an off-licence in our community, about what they can do as a community. I want to acknowledge the Communities Against Alcohol Harm. I want to acknowledge papa Trevor, nana Glenn\u2014who actually comes to the hearings in her walking frame, but she is a very vibrant and educated nana who has helped the community object to the too many liquor licences. But understanding the legislation and collecting better evidence has enabled the community to come together in M\u0101ngere and be able to put their case forward as to why they would object to those off-licences. So, just as I end off, I wanted to thank all the locals that are involved in this process and thank them and acknowledge them. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022 data-id=\u0022e0c88aac5db04caba686f90c0f4bf830\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e0c88aac5db04caba686f90c0f4bf830\u0022\u003ESIMON O\u2019CONNOR (National\u2014T\u0101maki):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. I\u2019m very pleased to talk about the local issues in the great and proud seat of T\u0101maki. It\u2019s an amazing community, wonderful suburbs, incredibly vibrant\u2014it doesn\u2019t matter if it\u2019s Glenn Innes to \u014Cr\u0101kei, Glendowie to Mission Bay and everything in between\u2014a wonderful community. One of the things I find most striking about the good people of T\u0101maki is that I never go to sleep wondering what they think! They are always very clear and explicit. So I just want to take the short time I have here today to raise what are several of the local issues, if you will, and then a few of the wider community issues, if I might. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EFirst and foremost on people\u2019s minds of late is, unfortunately, crime, but there\u2019s a negative and a positive story to this. The negative is the likes of our shops on Melanesia Road. Three of them were hit recently\u2014a bakery, a cafe, and a fish and chip shop; the owners have been there 37 years\u2014and this is absolutely terrible. A jewellers store has been hit recently as well, and those are only four examples of over 45\u201445\u2014that I know of that I proudly\u2014not proudly; sadly\u2014have to go and visit.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EWhy I wanted to share this is not simply because crime is a prevalent and major issue to the people of T\u0101maki but because the local community is stepping up. Now, we\u2019d much prefer that the Government did, but the local community is stepping up with the formation of our Eastern Bays community patrol, which I had the pleasure of being part of\u2014I want to stress that\u2014and helping to set up. I want to just acknowledge the likes of Bayleys, La Vista, Siri Thai, Kawa Dojo, and most recently the Pigeon\u2014locals will know what I\u2019m referring to; the famous Pigeon Racing Club there in St Heliers\u2014who all have been donating money to assist the community patrol to operate. That\u2019s been really, really important.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EAround crime has also been the issue of all these dirt bikes. I actually want to say thank you to the police who did the operation over the weekend. Granted, it was out \u014Ctara way, but those who live in and enjoy the likes of Tamaki Drive know the scourge that these motorcycles are. I\u2019d just like to say in this local issues debate that I\u2019d like to see further and more police operations, including in my electorate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003ELocals, too, are very pleased with National\u2019s recent changes around housing intensification. It\u2019s been one of those pieces of policy which I, obviously as a party member, have mentioned in the community. The community in turn has been very clear to me that having three-storey houses right up to the boundary was not something that they wanted. We in T\u0101maki already see a lot of intensification which is under the Unitary Plan, and that\u2019s having an impact itself without going further. So locals are very pleased with that change, and I\u2019m pleased to have played my part there. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EThe other aspects are around roading. If you\u2019re a local and you\u2019re, like me, going down Elstree Avenue or Apirana Avenue or, God forbid, you\u2019re trying to go through the new roading change in Mission Bay, it\u2019s a nightmare. So this is a plea to Auckland Transport and others to get their act in order. We as locals are tired of the endless cones, the endless disruptions that just go and on and on. We want to see that change.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EIn my last minute, I just want to turn to a couple of our local communities, just to acknowledge them. I\u2019ll have to move quickly because we only have a minute and a half left. I was very pleased to work with our local New Zealand Chinese community. I joined them on Sunday night to acknowledge the massacre in Tiananmen Square. These are very strong, proud people who came out to speak for freedom and democracy, and I just want to thank them. Our local Iranian community in T\u0101maki held some of their biggest protests in Mission Bay to continue the solidarity\u2014I know that goes across the House; many MPs are involved\u2014and to continue to call out what is happening there. I want to also acknowledge our Afghan community. I\u2019ve had a lot to do with them, particularly during the evacuation out of Kabul, for various reasons. There are quite a number of them all through the electorate, but quite a wonderful grouping in Glen Innes, and I just want to acknowledge them and say they are not forgotten, particularly around their need for visas. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003EThat segues me on to both the Ukrainian and Uyghur communities. I had the pleasure, actually, over the weekend to meet Abduweli. He is one of the foremost linguists in the Uyghur language and a great activist who is here in New Zealand. It was a real pleasure to meet him. For both our Ukrainian and Uyghur communities, for me, opening up the visa categories to allow those groups and families in is a no-brainer, in the same way it should be, actually, for Hong Kong people, many of whom continue to reach out to me with my work with the Inter-Parliamentary Alliance on China. These are no-brainers to me and something that New Zealand should do, and I can certainly say, as the MP for T\u0101maki, we would welcome more people. But I say to those communities that not only do I represent the people of T\u0101maki but I\u2019m pleased to represent as best I can their voices as well. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022acf78260-1a45-46a5-bc98-1a34a13ec1d1\u0022 data-id=\u002202ff7f66e1d44c0483d4d066facedcd3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022acf78260-1a45-46a5-bc98-1a34a13ec1d1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002202ff7f66e1d44c0483d4d066facedcd3\u0022\u003EDAN ROSEWARNE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Mr Speaker, thank you. I just want to address an issue that has been brought to my attention by my community in the Waimakariri electorate, and that is youth vaping. School principals, concerned parents, and even children from local schools have contacted me to express their concerns around the growing problem around vaping, particularly with young people, and rightly so. There was an outcry within my community of Woodend when a specialist vape retailer just opened across from the school. And to make matters worse\u2014I took the kids out during recess on their bikes; we went down Petries Road, across Main North Road, State Highway 1, to the local park there\u2014littered throughout the bark were disposable vapes. There was a whole lot of kids playing there\u2014you know, three-year-olds\u2014and there was the risk there that young toddlers would pick up the disposable vapes, try and emulate what they had seen from their siblings, or maybe their parents, and they could use it, particularly because there\u2019s no safety mechanism on there. That kind of really resonated with me at the time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022acf78260-1a45-46a5-bc98-1a34a13ec1d1\u0022\u003ELet me be clear: this is not about preventing people that smoke to come off\u2014you know, to take up vaping as a mechanism to quit. It\u2019s all about preventing young people from taking up the habit from scratch and becoming addicted lifelong to vapes. Of concern, in 2021, 26 percent of students from years 9 to 13 had tried vaping, and then in 2022, 18.2 percent of year 10 were actually vaping on a regular basis. I mean, even beyond these stats, you just ask any school principal out there, not just in my community but probably any community, and they will tell you that it\u2019s actually becoming a huge issue. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022acf78260-1a45-46a5-bc98-1a34a13ec1d1\u0022\u003EThe rise in specialist vape retailers in our community is a driving trend. We\u2019re seeing more vape stores open, and more dairies and gas stations are also selling vapes. Just in 2022 alone, there was a 40 percent increase in the number of speciality vape stores. It\u2019s a huge issue because it may be that it\u2019s harmless in comparison to smoking, but they are highly addictive and there\u2019s actually more nicotine in a vape than there is in a cigarette. Myself, I gave up smoking back when I was a young soldier in 2005\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225b6b1d74-9e5e-42ba-a922-85b0ea7f5ab6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c8415239204948efb5d5c8d71bb1c8ed\u0022\u003ESimon O\u2019Connor\u003C/span\u003E: Can\u2019t be that long ago.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022acf78260-1a45-46a5-bc98-1a34a13ec1d1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220cbe670756c54f8ba91301d2553f57f0\u0022\u003EDAN ROSEWARNE\u003C/span\u003E: It can\u2019t be that long ago. But, you know, that was some time ago. Even now, sometimes I\u2019ll wake up feeling gutted with myself because I started smoking. I\u2019d actually just dreamt about having a cigarette, and it just shows how addictive nicotine can be\u2014and that was a cigarette. Some vape products actually have twice the amount of nicotine in them. So that can have a huge impact on actually pulling out of that addictive habit. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022acf78260-1a45-46a5-bc98-1a34a13ec1d1\u0022\u003EVapes can also have a huge impact on cardiovascular health. It also means that young people will get into it. There was a bit of a trend there where people say, \u201CHey, it\u2019s not as bad as smoking.\u201D But we actually don\u2019t know about the long-term health implications that vapes have, and we\u2019ve heard things about popcorn lung, and particularly with flavours where we actually don\u2019t know what chemicals are inside them. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022acf78260-1a45-46a5-bc98-1a34a13ec1d1\u0022\u003EI have children around about that age where some of their friends are starting to vape. I was actually very impressed with Woodend School in particular, who decided to run a petition and get out there in the community and raise concerns with the local MPs. Just quickly, what I\u2019ll bring up is this map here, and that there is Kaiapoi central, and in Waimakariri there are currently nine vape retailers, of which eight have opened up in the last two years. You\u2019ll see that the location is near schools, and the red area on this map has a deprivation index level of 10. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022acf78260-1a45-46a5-bc98-1a34a13ec1d1\u0022\u003EIt seems like there\u2019s an overall strategy among the companies behind these vape retailers: they\u2019re actually switching lanes from tobacco products and opening up in vulnerable areas. This is something of particular concern in Waimakariri. I\u2019m particularly proud of the announcement that Labour and the Government have released about those boundaries around schools, and I\u2019m really looking forward to hearing back from the community with their thoughts on the new policy and continuing this push to prevent it in our communities. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022 data-id=\u0022da5d00845f994842bf26a8393d0e84be\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022da5d00845f994842bf26a8393d0e84be\u0022\u003ECHRIS BAILLIE (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. Despite what anyone says, Nelson is the sunniest place in New Zealand. It\u2019s got the best beaches, skiing is an hour away, and there are rivers to kayak in. We\u2019ve got apples, kiwifruit, but, most importantly, we\u2019ve got hops that grow abundantly and help this country\u2019s economy tick along.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003EThose industries have done it tough over the last five years. Like small businesses, they\u2019ve had to deal with unprecedented increased costs and have found employing workers more and more difficult. It\u2019s sad to see so many retail and hospitality businesses close despite huge efforts from their owners. They need to know that we tried to provide some sanity, and we\u2019re as frustrated as them. We also have a council that increased rates on some commercial businesses up to 52 percent in the middle of a pandemic\u2014just no idea. But Nelson business owners are tough, and I\u2019m sure the vibrant city I grew up in will return.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003ELike all of New Zealand, crime is rising in Nelson. Police do a fantastic job keeping it under control in difficult and increasingly difficult circumstances, but there is an ever-growing underbelly that threatens to disrupt the idyllic and traditionally safe lifestyle of Nelsonians. In April 2017, there were 56 gang members in the Tasman region. Police knew who they were and generally what they got up to. Now, there are 196. That\u2019s a 250 percent increase in gang members in the Tasman District in the last six years, while police numbers have increased 12 percent. At the last count, there were eight differing gangs in Nelson, and we\u2019re seeing them more and more, riding the streets like they own the place. Why? Because they can.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003EI was a general duties constable when community stations started to be shut down, when police hierarchy consulted with front-line officers who told them it could only end badly. The police\u2019s definition of consultation is \u201Cto fairly inform\u201D, which is the same definition that the current Government uses. I worked out of Stoke community station, a suburb five kilometres out of Nelson. We knew the bad guys, whatever their age, their tags on walls, the school they went to, the cars they drove, and who made up their family. Any new crime wave, burglaries, or cars stolen, the first thing we would ask is \u201CWho is new in town?\u201D All offences were dealt with; no matter how small, there were consequences for that offending. Offenders were held accountable. Police numbers are important, but police knowledge is more important, and experienced members are not appreciated enough\u2014and the public felt safe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223e43c957-a2f1-43cf-baf7-5b77358e038b\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to talk about Nelson\u2019s fantastic schools or the great, mighty Tasman Mako. But I\u2019ll just end with: Nelson is the best little city in New Zealand, and we need to keep it that way by voting ACT on 14 October.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022 data-id=\u002257c0cc9ca7604c3dacc69465d1e4fd85\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002257c0cc9ca7604c3dacc69465d1e4fd85\u0022\u003EGLEN BENNETT (Labour\u2014New Plymouth):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora, Madam Speaker. I just want to remind the previous speaker, Chris Baillie, that New Plymouth is actually the sunniest city in New Zealand\u2014I hate to bring it up, but it is\u2014for the second year in a row. Nelson, I think, hasn\u2019t been for a long time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EWe\u2019re talking local issues this afternoon, and bringing it into my electorate of New Plymouth, I often sort of think more about the local possibilities and the issues that arise but also the possibilities that come with that. So I want to talk this afternoon around branching out to a low-carbon economy. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EIn our rural sector in Taranaki, it\u2019s about looking at ways and means to do things differently. Taranaki is an awesome place to live, to work, to play, and to create. It\u2019s a place where our economy and our businesses thrive and grow, and as we have to work and shift to a low-carbon economy and shift to a low-emissions future, we need to be at the ready and at the forefront. That is the issue, but that is the possibility that we have for our region.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003ENow, as part of the Taranaki 2050 Roadmap, we were looking at how we co-design with our local people for our local region. There were some key things that came out of that for us to explore, and I\u2019m grateful that as a Government we\u2019ve taken note of that and we\u2019re implementing them. I\u2019ll shortly mention the Hon Damien O\u2019Connor and the work he\u2019s done for our region, and continues to do, but those key themes were things such as a strong and sustainable environment. They were around education options that move and flow with our changing world. They were about attractive jobs, around the lifestyle that we love, in the sunniest place in New Zealand, and also about leading the way in sustainable low-emissions energy, and a region that looks out for each other and cares for its people\u2014those were things that we as a community said were important as we move forward. We have the issue of decarbonisation, we have the issue of looking at how we diversify our agricultural sector, and we are on the game and moving forward with our Taranaki 2050 Roadmap. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003ENow, Branching Out has been a big part of that, and I was really grateful back in 2020 for the Hon Damien O\u2019Connor, the Minister of Agriculture, to put some money into our region and to look at what Branching Out could do\u2014how do we look at our food and fibre sector and its future, and how do we diversify it? Currently, we have such fertile and wonderful land, but so often it\u2019s only in just one thing, and that\u2019s our dairy industry, so we looked at ways and at the opportunities, and what we could do to diversify that. It\u2019s saying yes to our agriculture, yes to our farmers, but also yes to how we can look at different ways of using the lands that they have. We engaged catchment communities, funding more than 200 of them around Aotearoa, but also in our own region, ensuring that we had support from catchment communities, and where they could share ideas, they can innovate, they can improve their waterways, and they could continue to build their communities. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EThe aim of the Branching Out project\u2014and we\u2019ve now honed it down; we were grateful at the last Fieldays, last November, to have the Minister of Agriculture, Damien O\u2019Connor, again put another $2.17 million of funding into Branching Out, looking at what the challenges and issues are, to say, \u201CLook, how can we find possible opportunities to move forward?\u201D So we\u2019re focusing on hemp fibre, on medical ingredients, on indigenous ingredients, on hops, on gin botanicals, and on high-value fruit crops. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s exciting when I get out and about and I talk to farmers and I talk to industry and I talk to those who are developing new ways of utilising their land, new ways of developing their businesses\u2014whether it be around trees, whether it be about using sheep for dairy, whether it be about developing avocado or kiwifruit on dairy farms, and whether it be about grains and legumes and vegetables or hemp fibres\u2014we\u2019ve got our wonderful industries like Shining Peak Brewing, like Juno Gin, who are all part of this plan to take an issue, which is decarbonising, take an issue which is a challenge for us, but then to find a possibility and a way forward. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EWe have fair-trade agreements in place. As a Government, we have four new agreements in the last five years, and three upgrades. We need to be competitive. We need to be competitive on the international market, and they are demanding green and sustainable products, and green and sustainable farming practices. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EThat\u2019s why I am encouraged and grateful to be the MP for New Plymouth who has seen an issue and a challenge and is now embracing the possibilities of the future. We are branching out to a low-carbon economy, and I am excited.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022 data-id=\u00220593ab04909d4edfa3f929e42d87819b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220593ab04909d4edfa3f929e42d87819b\u0022\u003ETAMA POTAKA (National\u2014Hamilton West):\u003C/span\u003E E mihi ana ki a K\u012Bngi Tiare, ki a K\u012Bngi T\u016Bheitia hoki. [I greet King Charles and King T\u016Bheitia.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EHamilton West is best. We\u2019re moving off Surf Highway 45 and back to State Highway 1. The people of suburbs like Frankton, Saint Andrews, Temple View, and The Lake are proud Kiwis and Hamiltonians. This weekend, our country\u2019s finest Super Rugby team, the Chiefs, host the Reds at FMG Stadium Waikato for the quarter-final. Anyone in this Chamber, including folks from Taranaki, are welcome to come to Kirikiriroa to support our tourism sector, DMac, Clayton McMillan, and that fantastic team.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EWh\u0101nau, we\u2019ve got a lot of big challenges in Hamilton West. Why don\u2019t I start with Waikato Base hospital? Right now, the holistic health and wellbeing of the wh\u0101nau in Hamilton West communities is under extreme pressure. Waikato Base hospital is in Hamilton West\u2014it\u2019s under severe pressure. Wait times at the Waikato Base hospital: way up; A \u0026amp; E wait times have dramatically ballooned over the past couple of years. The Base hospital has been left off Labour\u2019s emergency department hotspot and winter preparedness plan despite ongoing reports of serious staff shortages: nurses shooting through to Brisbane and the Gold Coast; ambulance ramping and ambulance diversions to sibling electorates like Tauranga. Our hospital and our health need help. Our pharmacies aren\u2019t even part of the minor winter ailments plan\u2014outrageous. Every major health decision that\u2019s been made at the moment is making it harder for the Waikato Base hospital to do the job it needs to do. We need more surgical precision and timing for Hamilton West, and less decisions based on us playing the Operation board game.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ECrime: Hamilton West is known as the ram raid capital of New Zealand. Ram raids, aggravated violence, and crime\u2014both in homes and businesses\u2014are at a rate higher than nearly everywhere else in Aotearoa. Children feel unsafe, parents feel unsafe, communities feel unsafe, seniors and superannuitants feel unsafe, and businesses feel unsafe. Like Puneet Singh down in Frankton, the Irvine Street dairy. Just before Christmas last year, his dairy worker\u2014fog cannon aside; there was a fog cannon in there\u2014had his hand chopped off by a machete. Absolutely outrageous. A week later, his wife had a miscarriage. Kei te aroha ki a r\u0101tou. [Condolences to them.] We need real action and real change to re-instil safety in all our neighbourhoods in Hamilton West, and not just Chamber talk. In Waikato, gang numbers have far outstripped police numbers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe cost of living, again, in Hamilton West: phenomenal rise in mortgage payments for the average mortgage holder\u2014$380 per week. Financial hardship has been normalised in Hamilton West. Some young people\u2014I caught up with them recently down on Primrose Street in Dinsdale; two young ladies\u2014paying $500 a week between them for a two-bedroom unit; struggling to live but keen to work, play, pray in Hamilton West. They wanted to stay in Hamilton\u2014as many reasonable people like to do\u2014but, with costs and rent going up, Australia\u2019s starting look really appealing. The cost of living is actually made even harder by Countdown Nawton shutting down in August. Countdown is shutting down a store in Hamilton West, making it harder for people to get there to buy their food, to buy vegetables, to buy their meat, to actually live their lives. Now they have to drive all the way over to Dinsdale or into Te Rapa or into town to get their basic needs. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EWe\u2019ve got some outstanding schools in Hamilton West: Nga Taiatea, Melville High School, Te K\u014Dpuku High, and also Fraser High School\u2014many primary schools. These schools have challenges, like Melville High School\u2014it\u2019s still in prefabs from the 1960s, and we\u2019re waiting for the Government to come and say, \u201CYes, we are going to replace those prefabs as you join up to make a composite school with Melville Intermediate.\u201D It\u2019s little wonder, for me, while we\u2019ve seen a system that\u2019s spent $1 billion extra a year and hired 1,400 extra public servants, there is no change to the educational output and outcome in Hamilton West. In fact, putting Hamilton Girls\u2019 High School aside, the university entrance achievement rate for all the secondary schools in Hamilton West is between 15 and 23 percent: 15 and 23 percent of students in Hamilton West\u2014Hamilton Girls\u2019 aside\u2014get university entrance. That is outrageous.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EEmergency housing: when you come to the game this weekend, you\u2019ll see everything that you need to see down on Ulster Street. Again, the highest amount of emergency housing\u2014emergency motels\u2014across the country is in Hamilton West. I met a young lady called Everest the other day. She\u2019d been living at eight motels with her four kids over two years. She\u2019d finally made it to transitional housing\u2014fantastic. Eight motels in two years\u2014that\u2019s the life that people in Hamilton West lead. It\u2019s a motel battleground.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EHamilton West has hope, but it\u2019s not in the current administration. That hope has faded as people have faced the cost of living crisis, the law and order issues, and a crumbling education and health system. But we\u2019ve still got the rugby. All hail the Chiefs and Chiefs Manawa. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022 data-id=\u00226d4493a1805840eaa7290045251db925\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226d4493a1805840eaa7290045251db925\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa)\u003C/span\u003E: We have two more calls left, and that\u2019s divided in two between the National Party and the Labour Party.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022 data-id=\u002253c1a15147a64bcda743b1d667ff7a12\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002253c1a15147a64bcda743b1d667ff7a12\u0022\u003EPENNY SIMMONDS (National\u2014Invercargill):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you very much, Madam Speaker. Thank you. I want to speak on a matter that\u2019s very dear to my heart, and that is the disastrous impact of centralisation and the creation of the mega-merger of the polytechnics and Industry Training Organisations, Te P\u016Bkenga, on the Southern Institute of Technology (SIT) in my electorate, Invercargill. I want to talk about four things that are impacting on them, particularly the zero-fees scheme which was put in place in 2001 and is in jeopardy through Te P\u016Bkenga, the impact on international students, on accommodation, and also on the community of SIT.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022\u003ESo, firstly, the zero-fees scheme was brought in in 2001. It is under jeopardy because of Te P\u016Bkenga\u2019s decision making around this\u2014so, not Southland, not Invercargill, not SIT making this decision but rather Te P\u016Bkenga making a decision. In 2000, $7.25 million of community funding was put into SIT to enable the zero-fees scheme; that came from philanthropic entities, from the local authorities, and from businesses and families in Invercargill to enable the zero-fees scheme to be put in place. It took the size of SIT from just around 1,400 fulltime-equivalent students up to over 4,000 fulltime-equivalent domestic students. The impact on Invercargill, the businesses in Invercargill, and the community of Invercargill was significant, and the financial impact of that was also significant in terms of the millions of dollars that were then circulating in the Southland community.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022\u003EThe second point is the impact of Te P\u016Bkenga on international students, and that has been a diminishing of the number of international students that SIT is able to attract, because Te P\u016Bkenga is making decisions about what fees will have to be charged so that they are uniform right across the country. So SIT cannot take advantage of a lower cost of living in Southland, and SIT cannot promote itself with any cheaper fees; it must have the same fees as throughout the country. That is meaning reduced numbers of international students, and that is impacting on our domestic students, who are not getting exposed to students from across the world and preparing them much better for a global economy when they graduate. It\u2019s also hurting our community in terms of those students were out working in our healthcare facilities: they were out working in our retail outlets, and so our whole community is suffering from that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022\u003EWe at SIT were about to build 33 apartments just when the change or the mega-merger occurred. SIT had the funding, the consents, the land, the plans, the specifications, all the money there to spend $23 million on building these apartments, and that was stopped by Te P\u016Bkenga. So they added to the shortage of rental accommodation in Southland.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022\u003EOur community has suffered: our Stags, our Steel, our Sharks were all sponsored by SIT; Te P\u016Bkenga has not allowed that sponsorship to continue, again hurting our community. Te P\u016Bkenga has damaged our community. It is a centralisation that does not help Southland.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b8550e1a-ed25-44a2-b0e2-b0a8d52a7a80\u0022 data-id=\u00223aa06c207dc94a89a42d3ba0a8247d30\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b8550e1a-ed25-44a2-b0e2-b0a8d52a7a80\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223aa06c207dc94a89a42d3ba0a8247d30\u0022\u003ERACHEL BOYACK (Labour\u2014Nelson):\u003C/span\u003E It\u2019s a pleasure to rise and take a call this afternoon about one of the biggest and most important projects in Nelson, and that is the new Nelson Hospital.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b8550e1a-ed25-44a2-b0e2-b0a8d52a7a80\u0022\u003EGrowing up in provincial New Zealand in the 1980s and 1990s, I spent a lot of time at provincial hospitals. Thankfully, it wasn\u2019t because I was sick; it was because my father, Jonathan, held senior management roles at New Zealand hospitals throughout the 1980s and into the early 1990s. He finished his career in New Zealand as the chief executive of the Manawatu-Wanganui Area Health Board before moving to the UK to take up senior roles in Birmingham. As a young girl, I would spend time visiting has offices, attending marae for consultation with iwi about M\u0101ori health initiatives, and going to what I thought at the time were very boring openings of new buildings. In fact, I look back with great pride now on a photograph of myself aged eight, alongside my father and Sir Paul and Lady Beverley Reeves, at the opening of a new building at Wanganui Hospital.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b8550e1a-ed25-44a2-b0e2-b0a8d52a7a80\u0022\u003EMy family aren\u2019t known for our medical prowess. My father wasn\u2019t a doctor; he has accounting qualifications. My mother is a doctor, but definitely not the kind you would want to call on in a health scare\u2014sorry, Mum. What my family is known for is getting things done. We take great pride in making projects, stories, and events happen. My formative years as that young girl, observing people like my dad and then health Minister Helen Clark getting things done for the people of New Zealand, definitely stirred in me a desire to get things done for our community.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b8550e1a-ed25-44a2-b0e2-b0a8d52a7a80\u0022\u003EAs the MP for Nelson, the biggest project I have on my list of things to do is the rebuild of Nelson Hospital. It\u2019s the biggest capital project in a generation, and we\u2019ve been waiting decades for it. We are approaching one of the biggest milestones for this project: the final stage in the project\u2019s approval process. The programme business case is going through the Te Whatu Ora board for approval, and then to Cabinet within the next two months.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b8550e1a-ed25-44a2-b0e2-b0a8d52a7a80\u0022\u003ENelson is at the top of the list, across New Zealand, for a new hospital, and I want to acknowledge one of our former health Ministers, David Clark, for the groundwork he laid to make this project happen. David Clark commissioned a study of all hospitals across New Zealand, and it was found that Nelson Hospital was in the worst condition of all of them. That has helped us make the case for this important funding. The George Manson building\u2014most of it will come down. The Percy Brunette building will be refurbished. I\u2019m really proud that, prior to the Budget, James Shaw announced that all coal burners at New Zealand hospitals will be replaced by 2025. I know that Nelson Hospital is working very steadily towards a new energy centre in 2024 as part of our rebuild.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b8550e1a-ed25-44a2-b0e2-b0a8d52a7a80\u0022\u003EI spoke to a former member of the Nelson Marlborough District Health Board who said to me how important it was that we don\u2019t cut corners on this project\u2014that, in previous years, funding was given but it was not enough for what was needed to ensure that Nelson had the best facility possible. I\u2019m really proud, as the local MP, to have secured the first funding for this important project in Budget 2022 after decades of waiting for it. Very shortly, we will have the full story in place. I hope my dad will be proud of me when we get to turn that first sod for our amazing new hospital. But, most importantly, I know that Nelsonians will benefit from having the best facility possible and will celebrate when the first baby is born in our new hospital, when the first surgery is performed, and when the first patient walks through the new emergency department.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b8550e1a-ed25-44a2-b0e2-b0a8d52a7a80\u0022\u003ELabour is the party that builds hospitals, and I\u2019m proud to be the local MP that has secured the first round of funding for the most important project that our community will see in a generation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022 data-id=\u00226b5c6797066e4c678b179c2115473449\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226b5c6797066e4c678b179c2115473449\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Jenny Salesa)\u003C/span\u003E: The time for this debate has expired.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00226621ef1fd490423b90947ed99aa07e76\u0022\u003EStanding Orders\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022510f1e109b3d4a248172f40ee6c5ce75\u0022\u003ESessional\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022 data-id=\u0022a878e688a64442368f86260d6cd171da\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a878e688a64442368f86260d6cd171da\u0022\u003EHon KIERAN McANULTY (Deputy Leader of the House)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Leader of the House: Thank you, Madam Speaker. I move, That the following rules be adopted, with effect from 12 June 2023: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E1\tSittings of the House\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(1)\tThe House sits as follows:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003ETuesday and Wednesday: 2 pm to 6 pm and 7.30 pm to 10 pm\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003EThursday: 2 pm to 6 pm.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(2)\tOn a Tuesday and a Wednesday, the sitting is suspended at 6 pm until 7.30 pm.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(3)\tStanding Order 46 is suspended.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E2\tEffect of extended sitting hours and urgency\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(1)\tWhenever a sitting on a Thursday has been extended under Standing Order 56, the sitting is suspended from 6 pm to 7.30 pm, is suspended at 10 pm, and resumes at 9 am the following day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(2)\tWhenever urgency has been accorded, and the Government has advised the Business Committee of the intention to move on a Thursday to accord urgency to business, the sitting on that Thursday is suspended between 6 pm and 7.30 pm and between 10 pm and 9 am.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(3)\tStanding Orders 56(4)(b) and 58(2)(b) are suspended.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E3\tCasting of party votes and proxy votes on Thursdays\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(1)\tOn a Thursday, from 5 pm until that sitting adjourns,\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(a)\tthere is no limit on proxy votes that may be cast by a party,\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(b)\ta party that consists of five or fewer members, if not present in the Chamber, may have votes cast on its behalf by the leader or whip of another party, and\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(c)\tan Independent member, if not present in the Chamber, may have their vote cast on their behalf by the leader or whip of a party.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(2)\tStanding Orders 144(5) and (6) and 146 are read accordingly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E(3)\tThis rule does not apply to a sitting that has been extended under Standing Order 56 or in respect of which urgency has been accorded.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E4\tBusiness Committee determinations\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003ERules 1 to 3 do not affect the Business Committee\u2019s powers to determine hours or arrangements for sittings and to adjust or waive the limit on proxy votes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d3923f79b2d6417fa0173c4fd4003514\u0022\u003EHealth and Safety at Work (Health and Safety Representatives and Committees) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022706d0a16f9914ab5884b85d1da8c05e3\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000366\u0022\u003EDebate resumed from 31 May.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022 data-id=\u0022a5464a2df49049619054eb15dae2bf44\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a5464a2df49049619054eb15dae2bf44\u0022\u003ETAMA POTAKA (National\u2014Hamilton West):\u003C/span\u003E He aha te mea nui o te ao? He t\u0101ngata, he t\u0101ngata, he t\u0101ngata. [What is the greatest thing in the world? It is people, it is people, it is people.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThere have been some tragic accidents and incidents at workplaces all around the country, particularly on farms, forests, near railways, and driving on roads. Getting to mahi and home safely is the priority for all today and every day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EKei te mihi ki te wh\u0101nau o Tim van de Molen me tana tuahine. T\u0101iki e. [I acknowledge the family of Tim van de Molen and his sister. It is done.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ENational opposes this bill. As a former health and safety manager of Tainui Group Holdings in\u2014you know it\u2014Hamilton West, I appreciate the chance to listen to and speak to this matter: the third reading of the amendment bill. Thank you to the Hon Michael Wood for his diligence here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EComing into health and safety as a young legal zealot, convinced about me being right all the time, I was confronted with the iwi, corporate, and business reality, which focuses often on the potentially oxymoronic objectives of manaakitanga and profit. However, through the guidance of leading sentinels of that great tribe of Waikato Tainui\u2014people like the Hon Koro W\u0113tere, Kingi Porima, and Pokaia Nepia, coupled with the steely determination of the Tainui Group Holdings, officialdom like John Spencer, Tania Simpson, and Mike Pohio\u2014I was able to see through the sometimes foggy lens of health and safety to practical and workable solutions to achieve those noble objectives of manaakitanga and profitable business. Hazard and risk identification: the Excel spreadsheet that defined my Microsoft Excel career; health and safety engagement with representatives, with committees, with others who are interested in this subject; subcontractor management\u2014that little black hole that many property developers fall into.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EI recall one exciting example when we were building The Base retail centre out at Te Rapa in Hamilton West, and a subcontractor decided that he was going to use an acetylene torch up next to an air conditioning unit. So at the first week of opening The Base, we had to shut it down for a few hours because one person decided, as a subcontractor, he could do that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EAnother great example was a place where many of us have been to, actually. It\u2019s called the Auckland Airport, and out at the Auckland Airport, Tainui Group Holdings built a beautiful hotel called the Novotel Auckland Airport. There\u2019s another one coming called the Pullman Te Arikinui, and when we built that hotel, one of the subbies had a great idea to go cruising on his bulldozer and digger and hit the main gas main of the Auckland Airport and shut it down for four hours. That\u2019s the type of experience and excitement I had to contend with as a health and safety manager of Tainui Group Holdings. It wasn\u2019t like that jet fuel line there, Mr Cameron.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EHealth and safety training and education are a fundamental part of health and safety, and emergency procedures, which became as important to me as my fitness regime with Johnny Gillet of CrossFit Waikato: a few press-ups. The proposed legislation introduces more regulatory fog, reminding me of early morning runs alongside the Waikato River\u2014haven\u2019t done those for a while\u2014dense fog, wet fog, Hayes Paddock fog, and St Andrews Golf Club fog; dangerous hazards for risks and under-stretched and slow runners like me, and perhaps others who sit here in the backbench of the National Party.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThis proposed legislation does not eliminate, isolate, or minimise hazards and risks prevalent in small businesses. The bill is more about K\u0101wanatanga than manaakitanga. Not only that, it actually downplays one of the six foundations of the Treaty principles, that being p\u016Bkengatanga or expertise\u2014the expertise that actually exists in many small and medium enterprises (SME) to deal with health and safety issues, without Big Brother watching every day and telling people what to do.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe bill seems more about ticking an election manifesto\u2014oh, that\u2019s right; that\u2019s what it is. \u201CWhat is right for small and medium enterprises? Health and safety reps\u2014tick. Whakapapa profiling in ACC legislation\u2014tick. More tax for wh\u0101nau trusts\u2014tick. Cat wash solutions for showers\u2014tick. But potholes\u2014don\u2019t worry about them.\u201D Probably the most dangerous health and safety risk presented to most businesses in this country today\u2014nothing being done. \u201CLet\u2019s not fix the number one health and safety issue, but instead load more compliance on to businesses\u201D, and that\u2019s where we\u2019re at right now. \u201CDon\u2019t worry about the p\u016Bkengatanga or the expertise around health and safety that already exists there. Let\u2019s make sure that every business, no matter how many employees they have, have the chance to spend more money on health safety.\u201D Folks\u2014all of us\u2014there are only two more ticks we need this year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe election of one or more representatives on request by a worker replaces the existing provision whereby a person conducting a business or undertaking (PCBU) is not obliged to elect representatives if there are more than 20, and not deemed a high-risk industry. Another provision that\u2019s proposed requires the establishment of a health and safety committee on request by five workers or a health and safety representative. This is unnecessary. Moumou w\u0101, moumou k\u014Drero, moumou pire ki te p\u014D. [Waste of time, waste of discussion, waste of a bill to the darkness.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ENational set the limit at 20 employees because adding more compliance\u2014and especially for the 105,000 small and medium enterprises that this is going to influence who fall under the rubric of this legislation\u2014makes it harder for human resource to ideate, to innovate, to invent things, and market and sell them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThere is minimal evidence that I have seen that shows how low-risk SMEs are not already dealing with health and safety issues in a prudent and reasonable manner. This bill does not add de minimis costs. The Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment is saying that it is about $1,500 an employee on an average wage to train up, days away from work, and productivity loss therein. Business New Zealand and the Employers and Manufacturers Association have both submitted against the proposed legislation so far, and the regulatory impact statement demonstrates that consultation with the SME sector prior to developing the bill was very, very marginal.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ESMEs generally are not unreasonable PCBUs. They know that a productive and incentivised workforce is critical for their own profitability, manaakitanga, and future. Businesses like Tainui Group Holdings crack into the mahi and organise their people to be trained around health and safety for the good of the business, not to fulfil some election manifesto check box.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ESo, alas, we vigilantly and diligently oppose this bill in being, yet again, an inefficient use of limited parliamentary resource and my time, on a closing Thursday afternoon. I concur with my party colleagues who have spoken about this bill already, with reference to the well-known song by North Shore singer Kings, \u201CDon\u2019t Worry \u2018Bout It\u201D:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EAll that really mattered was the company I got\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EAnd everything else was just a hand inside the clock\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EAnd now getting insta-famous for a Like is not a shock\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ESnapchat strangers for a boost is all you got\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s funny when the times changed\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EBut for some of us it never changed\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EI\u2019ve got great company today\u2014I had a couple of birthday friends last night\u2014but this bill adds more regulatory fog. My limited experience in health and safety, as a health and safety manager, suggests that we empower businesses, give them the respect they deserve, and facilitate them to do business on reasonable terms, and not forced by legislation to meet unwise manifesto aspirations. Mimicry is the best form of flattery. Get things done. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225cf229a9-8722-46b2-a37e-b528e075be7d\u0022 data-id=\u00222644376c62cb414e82a3b603e763a462\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225cf229a9-8722-46b2-a37e-b528e075be7d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222644376c62cb414e82a3b603e763a462\u0022\u003EANGELA ROBERTS (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E I\u2019m very humbled to rise and take the final call on the third reading of the Health and Safety at Work (Health and Safety Representatives and Committees) Amendment Bill. I proudly stand here and honour the fact that we are delivering on manifesto commitments. We are making workplaces safer for our workers. We are not apologising for that; we are proud of that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225cf229a9-8722-46b2-a37e-b528e075be7d\u0022\u003EWe\u2019ve heard a lot\u2014it\u2019s really funny, I kind of anticipated what the debate was going to be about\u2014that this bill is unnecessary, that we have these small businesses that have really strong, healthy cultures where health and safety can be managed and looked after and attended to. Well, great news: it isn\u2019t compulsory. In those firms where workers are already a part of a healthy health and safety environment, they will not feel the need to require this of their employer. So rest assured.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225cf229a9-8722-46b2-a37e-b528e075be7d\u0022\u003EIt is interesting that the limit has been set at 20 and that, below 20: nothing to see here, folks. But actually, you are 57 percent more likely to suffer an injury if you\u2019re in a small firm of around 20, and you\u2019re 23 percent more likely to suffer a serious injury. So to give half a million workers access to the right to organise around health and safety is critical.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225cf229a9-8722-46b2-a37e-b528e075be7d\u0022\u003EIt does improve productivity; when you invest\u2014I keep hearing the word \u201Ccost\u201D, and it really makes me upset\u2014we\u2019re talking about investing in workers. When we invest in them, they participate in health and safety, they take responsibility for the things that they do, they\u2019re engaged, they own the health and safety environment, and you are more likely to have retention of well-trained staff that are healthy, and you are less likely to have days off work. Our whole economy is less likely to have people who cannot work. They are less likely to have people who are going to be under-employed. There will be lives saved. I\u2019m really, really proud to say that we are standing here today delivering another manifesto promise to our workers in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225cf229a9-8722-46b2-a37e-b528e075be7d\u0022\u003EI just need to say: we thank the officials and we thank everyone on the committee and everyone who has contributed\u2014submitters, workers, and businesses alike. But I just need to take a moment to recognise the significant leadership and perseverance of our fabulous Minister, the Hon Michael Wood, who has led so much change for workers, for our economy through this Government. I want to acknowledge that in the House today. It is his leadership that has seen this come to this moment. Thus, I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022a8c052dc0adb40cab19d478793f25a4c\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the Health and Safety at Work (Health and Safety Representatives and Committees) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 75\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Te Paati M\u0101ori 2; Kerekere; Whaitiri.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 39\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 29; ACT New Zealand 10.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000394\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00225ade08c2e4fc4c478508c46f0a24d4f5\u0022\u003EAmended Answers to Oral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b343347cb8d847a0b422e59c566a0a79\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 11 to Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022 data-id=\u00227228def68e194c13826bcbf4b4f9ad5a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227228def68e194c13826bcbf4b4f9ad5a\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI (Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E I seek leave to correct an answer to oral question No. 11 today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f7dbc34251974a939ac0462aa743badb\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Leave for that purpose is sought. Is there any objection? There is no objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d49e4b0d7b3b4237a3c01845ebc2180b\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Speaker, when I said that the data was released on 23 February but that if I was wrong, I would come back and correct it\u2014I\u2019d like to correct the date to 22 February.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00222c61360ff1bc466c9f911bb955f76815\u0022\u003ECrown Minerals Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00224bfce5f391b4487db7b65e7e67546f88\u0022\u003ESecond Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022 data-id=\u00222be6a5725a3e49e4ad08130d17319544\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222be6a5725a3e49e4ad08130d17319544\u0022\u003EHon Dr DUNCAN WEBB (Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister of Energy and Resources: I present a legislative statement on the Crown Minerals Amendment Bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022128406e8dad446f3b202e93fee83bffb\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That legislative statement is published under the authority of the House and can be found on the Parliament website.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f9f2cbb4749043b9bfb35962abd070ce\u0022\u003EHon Dr DUNCAN WEBB\u003C/span\u003E: I move, That the Crown Minerals Amendment Bill be now read a second time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThe Government commenced a two-part review of the Crown Minerals Act 1991 in 2018. Tranche one of that review was completed later that year, and it gave effect to the Government\u2019s policy to end future offshore petroleum exploration and confine any future onshore developments to the Taranaki region only. In progressing tranche two, the Government decided to focus first on the biggest issues and risks: the Crown Minerals (Decommissioning and Other Matters) Amendment Act was passed in 2021. This strengthened the Crown Minerals Act (CMA) to help mitigate the risk to the Crown and other third parties from having to undertake and fund decommissioning in the future. No one wants to see a repeat of the events surrounding the T\u016B\u012B oilfield, where the operator liquidated and the Government had to step in and pick up the bill at the cost of the taxpayer. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThis bill aligns the Crown Minerals Act with wider Government policy while maintaining its current role, which is for the economic development of Crown-owned minerals within New Zealand for the benefit of all New Zealanders. This bill concludes tranche two of the review by proposing amendments to remove the promotional intent in the purpose of the Crown Minerals Act, and to improve permit and licence holder engagement with iwi and h\u0101pu. The bill also seeks to clarify decommissioning-related provisions. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EBefore speaking about the bill\u2019s proposed changes to the purpose statement, it\u2019s important to understand some of the context about the Crown Minerals Act and how it fits in with wider Government objectives. The Crown Minerals Act was amended in 2013 to attract investment in our petroleum and minerals sector. A purpose statement was added, which is \u201Cto promote prospecting for, exploration for, and mining of Crown owned minerals for the benefit of New Zealand.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003ESince 2013, the strategic and wider regulatory environment in which the Crown Minerals operates has evolved. Climate change is an increasing focus, as is the use of an intergenerational lens in decision making. New Zealand has domestic targets to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions, with carbon emissions to reach net zero by 2050. We\u2019ve set an aspirational target of 100 percent renewable electricity generation by 2030. Our 2022-25 emissions reduction plan sets out strategies and actions needed to contribute to the global effort to limit global warming. The Government is also progressing the development of the New Zealand Energy Strategy, which will set the direction for New Zealand\u2019s path to a low-carbon economy and signal pathways away from fossil fuels. While fossil fuels continue to play an important role in keeping the lights on today, we know the future will be bright and look different.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EWhilst it is important that the Crown Minerals Act sustains investor confidence to continue the development of Crown-owned minerals where appropriate, its current focus on promotion allows limited flexibility in the choices available to the Crown, particularly in the context of a transition away from fossil fuels. So this bill makes changes to the promotional intent. The main proposal is to change the word \u201Cpromote\u201D in the purpose statement to \u201Cmanage\u201D. That will neither require nor prevent the development of Crown-owned minerals. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThe key intended effect of the removal of this promotional intent is to increase flexibility in relation to when and how often future public tenders for petroleum exploration permits take place. An updated Crown Minerals Act that no longer promotes the extraction of fossil fuels will sit better alongside Government policy that is moving New Zealand towards a greener, low-emissions future, but the Crown Minerals Act will continue to play an important role. These amendments will not change the fundamental role of the Crown Minerals Act, which is to allocate development rights to Crown-owned minerals in a way that increases economic benefits to New Zealand. The Crown Minerals Act will continue to operate within a wider Crown minerals regulatory system that includes environment, health and safety, and climate change laws. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThe bill also proposes changes to improve permit and licence holder and permit applicant engagement with iwi and hap\u016B. Feedback from iwi and hap\u016B has been that engagement with permit and licence holders under the CMA is variable. Engagement with iwi and hap\u016B is not always prioritised by permit and licence holders, the quality of engagement is inconsistent, and there can be a lack of transparency.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThe bill proposes a number of changes to create more certainty around engagement expectations. It proposes amendments that will provide iwi and hap\u016B with opportunities to review and discuss annual iwi engagement reports that are currently required from tier 1 permit holders. It will enable regulations to specify minimum content requirements for those reports. It also proposes to clarify the feedback from hap\u016B and iwi on past permit or licence holder engagement as a consideration when the Minister makes a permit allocation decision.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThe bill also makes decommissioning-related clarifications to support interpretation of the Crown Minerals (Decommissioning and Other Matters) Amendment Act 2021. It is important that the provisions introduced through the 2021 Act are clear to enhance certainty to both industry and the New Zealand public. For these reasons, the bill proposes to clarify that assessments can be carried out to consider a person\u2019s financial and technical ability to decommission, and that decommissioning obligations apply to all persons regardless of status and apply to all persons, such as applicants, licence holders, or transferees.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThe bill was referred the Economic Development, Science and Innovation Committee on 22 November 2022 and 334 written submissions and 17 oral submissions were made, and I want to thank that excellent select committee for their work and consideration of this bill. I want to thank those who took the time to submit with all of their feedback.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EFour amendments to the law have been recommended by the select committee to address matters raised by submitters. First, the select committee has recommended that a proposed change to the purpose statement actually be removed. That change would amend the focus of the purpose statement from \u201Ceconomic efficiency\u201D to \u201Cadministrative efficiency\u201D. Since administrative efficiency is already expected, the select committee thought the proposed change does not add value and should instead be removed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003ESecond, the select committee has recommended an amendment to the provision relating to how the Minister considers feedback from iwi and hap\u016B. The introduction version of the bill stated that \u201Cthe Minister may consider feedback from iwi and hap\u016B when assessing permit applications.\u201D The select committee recommended that \u201Cthe Minister must have regard to feedback from iwi and hap\u016B about the applicant\u2019s engagement where that is provided in engagement reports or in annual meetings, and the Minister may have regard to other feedback.\u201D This change makes it clearer about how the Minister considers feedback from iwi and hap\u016B when assessing permit applications.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThe third recommendation from the select committee is to delay commencement of one provision. The commencement date for all provisions in the introduction version of the bill was set to be the day after the bill receives Royal assent. The select committee recommended that the provision outlining how the Minister has regard to feedback from iwi and hap\u016B comes into effect on 1 April 2024. This date aligns with the start of the next reporting year for engagement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThe select committee considered that all stakeholders would benefit from some time to understand the proposed change and that it would also allow permit and licence holders some time to make changes to their engagement and reporting before they submit their next reports.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThe fourth and final recommendation from the select committee was that a regulation-making power should be added that allows for time frames to be prescribed when engagement reports are passed for permittable licence holders to iwi and hap\u016B and back. That will give clarity to all those involved to streamline the feedback process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003EThe select committee process has led to a better bill; I thank the select committee for that, and I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u00221a4c50f053164b03b986b4dad467821d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221a4c50f053164b03b986b4dad467821d\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that the motion be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022 data-id=\u0022cd44395b6d6743f383be4aa2a7f1a361\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cd44395b6d6743f383be4aa2a7f1a361\u0022\u003ESTUART SMITH (National\u2014Kaik\u014Dura):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. It is a pleasure to speak on the Crown Minerals Amendment Bill, and I too would like to thank my fellow members on the Economic Development, Science and Innovation Committee, and the chair, Naisi Chen, who is in the Chamber today. The National Party does not support this bill and nor did it support all of the amendments. However, we did not seek to block those amendments; we could\u2019ve, and sent the bill back to the House unchanged and not recommended to pass. However, we didn\u2019t want to be obstructive, and so in the spirit of cooperation we committed to be cooperative on this matter.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EHowever, I do have some serious reservations about this bill, and it\u2019s interesting that the Minister, the Hon Duncan Webb, made a few references in his speech to climate change, intergenerational issues, transition away from fossil fuels, etc., and moving to a greener economy. That is the refrain from across the world by environmentalists, but they forget one thing\u2014they forget one thing\u2014the only way to transition is actually through minerals. We require more minerals, not less, in a greener, if you like, economy, in an electrified economy. For example, in the humble cellphone we have gold, copper, silver, tantalum, tungsten, aluminium, lithium, cobalt, silicon, tin, potassium, indium, aluminium, gallium, neodymium\u2014these are quite hard, some of these\u2014samarium, nickel, and praseodymium.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d4344b639c9f4707b0070c64e9a82893\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Such chemistry.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228eeab21314b74af1bcd6b651fd386d9d\u0022\u003ESTUART SMITH\u003C/span\u003E: Such chemistry, yeah. That\u2019s just one of our consumables. If you go to an electric vehicle (EV), it\u2019s a similar story, a lot of those minerals, and it\u2019s actually a significant amount\u2014six times more minerals needed in an EV than a conventional vehicle. Things like wind turbines: an average wind turbine takes 220 tonnes of coal to make that wind turbine. All of these things come from minerals. All of these things have to be mined. The extractive industries are essential to any transition that we have. Renewable energy, particularly the intermittent renewable energy of solar and wind\u2014they are really diffuse sources of energy. That means that we have to have a lot of plants all around the country, small wind turbines or solar panels, to extract anywhere near the energy levels that we need\u2014all dependent on minerals. We all want to transition, but we have to be realistic. The National Party is realistic, and that\u2019s why we stand here against this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EOne of the major changes in this is clause 4, which alters the purpose of the principal Act, which the Minister alluded to. It\u2019s no longer including the requirement for the Crown and the Minister to \u201Cpromote prospecting\u201D and instead going to \u201Cmanage prospecting\u201D, etc.\u2014and exploration and mining. The Minister mentioned the oil and gas ban, which I have said many times in this House had a chilling effect on the sovereign risk profile of New Zealand. It is a significant issue for us now in a world where, accessing capital for anything\u2014renewable projects or anything, actually\u2014we are now seen as a much higher risk. It\u2019s not that they think that we\u2019ll default, but they have to price that risk\u2014far better to actually go to some other country with a lower risk profile and put their money there. They have voted with their cash, essentially. So that has left us in a much more difficult position than we would otherwise be.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EThe issue about consulting with iwi\u2014I don\u2019t have an issue with that at all. All of the mines I\u2019ve been around\u2014unlike the Minister, actually, I have been down two gold mines and I\u2019ve been to several other mines and some mines that are in the process of being reinstated after the mining has finished. The work that goes on in those projects, I\u2019m not sure if you\u2019re aware, on the West Coast or anywhere else, when a mine has come to the end of its life, the people that come in to restore it\u2014and bear in mind they have to have significant bonds to ensure that they live up to their obligation\u2014those people are passionate environmentalists. They are employed by mining companies, but their job is not to penny pinch; their job is to meet the criteria that they are required to under the law. So trying to go and really steer a horse by its tail, by trying to slow down the permitting process\u2014Mr Speaker, I don\u2019t know if you\u2019ve had much to do with horses, but I have. I can tell you, steering a horse by the tail is a good way to get kicked and it\u2019s not really effective in getting a good direction. So I think that is where we\u2019re going wrong here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003ESo those mining companies do a great job in getting their land back to where it was prior to mining, as best can be. We have to accept that our existence on this Earth does change things\u2014where we trade, we leave a footprint. The best thing we can do is to ensure that that footprint disturbs as little as possible. And I can assure you, they are doing that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EIn regard to iwi engagement\u2014all of those mining companies, it\u2019s in their best interests to engage with iwi. They do that anyway\u2014relationships, absolutely. However, there will be times when iwi have little to do with that particular. And that\u2019s where my rub with this comes. Actually, the Treaty of Waitangi, under article 2\u2014and I\u2019m just going to quote the Waitangi Tribunal, who say, \u201Cguaranteed M\u0101ori the undisturbed position of their properties, including their lands, forests, and fisheries, for as long as they wish to retain them.\u201D That\u2019s great\u2014fantastic. But so do other people. And I think I\u2019ve had this conversation before\u2014ahik\u0101roa, I think, is the term\u2014I have a relationship with the land, as I\u2019m sure you do. Why are our rights not the same as anyone else? I really object to this provision. It should be those that are affected parties and interested parties. It should not be based on ethnicity. It should not be based on a particular iwi or anything else. If they are an interested party, they will be identified as that anyway. It\u2019s nonsensical to put this in the law, it doesn\u2019t make sense, and it\u2019s just a crazy situation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EPermits and permitting is what New Zealand Petroleum and Minerals are supposed to do within the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment. They have been slowing down, I suspect, in the view of trying to do their bit for climate change. The processing of permits and the mining sector\u2014it\u2019s been an appalling performance that we have seen to date. Whether it\u2019s deliberate, I don\u2019t know. I have to assume that it might be, given that one permit application I\u2019m aware of has been almost five years\u2014five years\u2014in the processing of that permit, and I\u2019m not aware if it\u2019s been either granted or declined at this stage. I can tell you, as of December 2022, there were 16 permits that were sitting within New Zealand Petroleum and Minerals\u2014just sitting there, languishing. Miners tell me they are finding these issues all the time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EI spent time at Stockton mine\u2014I\u2019m sure you know where that is. We\u2019re talking, here, about emissions, and we hear a lot about that from the other side of the House. Coal from Stockton lowers global emissions. Coal from Stockton is used by steel mills to lower their coal input into making steel. It\u2019s not the emissions here that are important; if you really care about climate change, you\u2019d care about global emissions, not the emissions in your patch. Yes, we can have an influence and we should. But when we have coal of a quality that comes from Stockton\u2014the metallurgical coal used to make steel and other products like carbon for carbon fibre\u2014that should be able to be extracted and sent to those countries to help lower their emissions to make high-quality steel. That might end up in a wind turbine that we put up here in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EI think we have lost sight of the ball, here. Look, everyone cares about climate change and dealing with that, but let\u2019s get our facts right. Let\u2019s approach this in a way that\u2019s sensible and actually is going to have the most effect, not do something that is simply signalling our virtue and beating our chests rather than focusing on the issue at hand. I cannot commend this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u0022dab7bcff83a045a78ec29b947e9cfd2a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022dab7bcff83a045a78ec29b947e9cfd2a\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The time has come to suspend this debate\u2014this is all wrong, let\u2019s get my wording correct for this time of the night. The debate is interrupted and set down for resumption the next sitting day. The House stands adjourned until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 20 June. Thank you for your work this week.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003EDebate interrupted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202306089b0e2925b51846018847e2a2525271cb000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 4.55 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"