"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022845dcec7d8e241aea0c471baf42516c9\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 11 APRIL 2024\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002271ba672cf0c74157b085f40f1b580cfa\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 11 APRIL 2024\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000002\u0022\u003EThe Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000004\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022cebd614556084fe6ba2de0e69c65d4ad\u0022\u003EKarakia/PRAYERS\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022360b1f5e8f9d4b008d4ce6d384f5f98d\u0022\u003EKarakia/PRAYERS\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u0022fec1b99d09fe47acb8dd57169f2fb3f5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fec1b99d09fe47acb8dd57169f2fb3f5\u0022\u003EBARBARA KURIGER (Deputy Speaker):\u003C/span\u003E Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the King and pray for guidance in our deliberations that we may conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00221c4d8ee0dded43be930ebfdc5a0a64af\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002240961a897c13406185aeb5d2f193cb12\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u0022934e89c4fd964384892c1239eb3a258b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022934e89c4fd964384892c1239eb3a258b\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Today, the House will adjourn until Tuesday, 30 April. In that week, the House will consider the first reading of Te Pire m\u014D \u014C-R\u0101kau, Te Pae o Maumahara/\u014C-R\u0101kau Remembrance Bill, the second reading of the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill, and will begin the 10-hour annual review debate. On Tuesday, there will be a 60-minute debate for the House to acknowledge the passing of Efeso Collins.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e4d471c0c9bf4c14a063416a39e14688\u0022\u003EPetitions, Papers, Select Committee Reports, and Introduction of Bills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00221e7a561456b84762b6eef350ce3f04cc\u0022\u003EPetitions, Papers, Select Committee Reports, and Introduction of Bills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022\u0022 data-id=\u00222b42850c2fdb40bc9fd2813dff89f3a5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222b42850c2fdb40bc9fd2813dff89f3a5\u0022\u003ECLERK\u003C/span\u003E: Petition of Lance Priestley requesting that the House regulate how much profit Woolworths and Foodstuffs, and the supermarkets they operate, can earn in a financial year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u00222f118197e95347359b13757c9dc2374c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222f118197e95347359b13757c9dc2374c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That petition stands referred to the Petitions Committee. Papers\u2014none today. Select committee reports? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022\u0022 data-id=\u00220e1c2b0e57394a3583410e4943f8eb4e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220e1c2b0e57394a3583410e4943f8eb4e\u0022\u003ECLERK\u003C/span\u003E: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EReports of the Finance and Expenditure Committee on the:\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBItemSL1\u0022\u003EReserve Bank of New Zealand, Financial Stability Report, November 2023\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBItemSL1\u0022\u003EReserve Bank of New Zealand, Monetary Policy Statement, February 2024\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereport of the Health Committee on the Ministry of Health, Long-term Insights Briefing 2023\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereports of the Social Services and Community Committee on the\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBItemSL1\u0022\u003Epetition of Hope Cotton\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBItemSL1\u0022\u003Epetition of Juliana Carvalho.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022ca3e50636a794ed386e5437554e8afc2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ca3e50636a794ed386e5437554e8afc2\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Those reports are set down for second reading. Other matters for consideration\u2014introduction of bills.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022\u0022 data-id=\u0022cf2c12c57f5544008117af056b6b00b1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cf2c12c57f5544008117af056b6b00b1\u0022\u003ECLERK\u003C/span\u003E: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003ERepeal of Good Friday and Easter Sunday as Restricted Trading Days (Shop Trading and Sale of Alcohol) Amendment Bill, introduction\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EConsumer Guarantees (Right to Repair) Amendment Bill, introduction.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u002207b70d7961184c21aa21d2097aee5650\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002207b70d7961184c21aa21d2097aee5650\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Those bills are set down for next sitting day. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002204910872e73b4e468d1aca3e0d904038\u0022\u003EOral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a1d4566cc88f469a84572bc0f8249aee\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002218f56c97ecd548d282086eea7d415666\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 1\u2014Finance\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022 data-id=\u002281a4347b47ed4207913d820bace7ef8f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002281a4347b47ed4207913d820bace7ef8f\u0022\u003ENANCY LU (National)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: What recent reports has she seen about the economy?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022 data-id=\u002205a0cb1980bc4ae79dfc5a27597c76bc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002205a0cb1980bc4ae79dfc5a27597c76bc\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E Yesterday, I saw that the Reserve Bank\u2019s monetary policy committee agreed to leave the official cash rate at 5.5 percent. The committee noted that consumer price inflation is currently above the 1 to 3 percent target range and that a restrictive monetary policy stance remains necessary at this time to bring inflation back within the band.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220c4351969cd2430790de9b0c45bffe65\u0022\u003ENancy Lu\u003C/span\u003E: When will inflation be back within the 1 to 3 percent target?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223a8f11dfe4fd433eb08389654095f413\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: New Zealand has had a cost of living crisis in recent years, with inflation being over 7 percent for most of 2022. Inflation has been falling since then, and the monetary policy committee is confident that inflation will return to within the 1\u00A0to\u00A03 percent band in this calendar year. It is also consistent with the economic outlook Treasury published alongside the Budget Policy Statement two weeks ago.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222d271033482c4e419f47c02223c95af1\u0022\u003ENancy Lu\u003C/span\u003E: Can fiscal policy have an inflationary impact?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022372c3bb0e5184f409c6047bec2d249fa\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: Yes. Strong growth in Government spending can have an inflationary impact when the economy is operating above capacity and interest rates are restrictive. Recent history gives us a very salient example of exactly that. The issue of\u00A0the interaction between fiscal policy and monetary was discussed at the recent monetary policy committee meeting. On the basis of the forecasts in the half-year update and the\u00A0commitments outlined by the Government in the recent Budget Policy Statement, the committee noted that Government spending is expected to decline as a share of the\u00A0economy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228aa26df3b604448f9aa1e7615138a79d\u0022\u003ENancy Lu\u003C/span\u003E: Has the battle against inflation been won?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002258af439715a64d97950317d982675c2e\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: No, I would not say that. While the Reserve Bank is making progress in the battle against inflation, it still currently remains outside the target band,\u00A0and further work is required to keep future inflation near the 2 percent mid-point. In the\u00A0Budget Policy Statement, the Government signalled a policy of ongoing fiscal\u00A0consolidation to bring revenue and expenses back into balance and also to support\u00A0monetary policy to bring inflation within target and maintain it there. We want to see inflation continuing to come down so that interest rates can eventually follow\u00A0them, giving New Zealanders cost of living relief and allowing the economy to start growing again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e8162f8bb36a483ea8a652e9b1cdd355\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 2\u2014Finance\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022 data-id=\u0022e1beddd325e04175aa5cfe643c6c5b85\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e1beddd325e04175aa5cfe643c6c5b85\u0022\u003EHon BARBARA EDMONDS (Labour\u2014Mana)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: Can she confirm that she told the Finance and Expenditure Committee this morning that the Government would be borrowing more in the future, and how much is the Government intending to borrow?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022 data-id=\u002225c91f52c253436fa60d47e09c2e4813\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002225c91f52c253436fa60d47e09c2e4813\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E No, I did not say that. I checked the transcripts, and, as has become a habit from this member, she\u2019s paraphrased me in a way that is inaccurate. When we read the transcript, we find that the reason that she may\u00A0not have heard my actual words is that she was interrupting continuously. In fact, what the case is is that what I said was, yes, we will be borrowing, that should not\u2014[Interruption] In fact, what I said was that, yes, we would be borrowing. That should not be a revelation to the member, because, since the dawn of time, Governments have\u00A0borrowed in order to finance their activities. If the member wants information about the bond issuance that the Government is doing over the forecast period and wants\u00A0to learn a bit more about how that works, she can go to the Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update on page 45, where it outlines those intentions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002286b930dfb4804631a2ce251826e36c00\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Speaker\u2014supplementary.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cb86120330774cb9acd9329772ff2498\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Just wait for your friends to quieten down.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223dbca3b975bf4323a9f06aedd9fd2a3e\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: Would the borrowing for day-to-day costs, as confirmed by the Minister in the Finance and Expenditure Committee (FEC) today, be higher or lower if she had not restored interest deductibility and was not pursuing her tax cut package?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b651daca4f0143e994c270090502a13f\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: This Government has set a clear goal of having net core Crown debt reduce as a proportion of GDP, in stark contrast with other members in this House, including the one who just asked a question, who said that she would be comfortable with debt increasing. So the position we have is a member opposite who is concerned, suddenly, about structural deficits, and what I would point out to her is that if the Government continued the pattern of extraordinary ineffective spending that has been the case in recent years, the structural deficit and, therefore, borrowing would have to grow considerably. I can also say\u2014[Interruption] I am trying to help the member with the answer to the question\u2014that we have committed to a lower operating allowance than that committed to by the previous Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224184d7651df849a1bea23daee97004c5\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: Does she accept that if she did not restore interest deductibility or pursue tax cuts, debt would be at least $11 billion lower, with all things being equal?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222f4a992d3ddd4e0bb81fdd2508b51ba1\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: Well, with all things being equal, we would be continuing to plough billions more dollars into wasteful programmes. And the deal we did with New Zealanders was this: we said we\u2019re going to spend their money more effectively, we\u2019re going to reduce the amount of money on back-office bureaucracy, we\u2019re going to stop subsidies for private firms to decarbonise, and we\u2019re going to take those savings and we\u2019re going to invest them in tax relief. What the member now wants the House to accept is that we would do one without the other. Actually, if she\u2019s saying that Labour\u2019s suddenly woken up and thinks savings are a good idea, then what a great revelation that is!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e86fc7b9222b4e418e348b9d737eb395\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: Does she accept that ANZ senior economist Miles Workman is correct that there is a counterfactual that if the Government did not deliver those tax cuts, and cut spending as it says it will, it would offset the economic drivers of higher debt, as reported in Stuff?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002280dca20e1fd54ceb856b434140973949\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: I have seen the ANZ\u2019s response to the Budget policy update, in which it identified that the fiscal track and the approach being taken by the incoming Government is more restrictive on spending than the last Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226b7a68b9cd3546f08bea426a5dbc79f9\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: How can she possibly say that she is not borrowing to pay for her tax package when she confirmed to FEC today that, ultimately, it is all funded from the same place?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022376944e1eda5458aa3ca82e44746132e\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: Because I am not borrowing for our tax package. Because what we are doing is\u2014[Interruption] They either want the answer or they don\u2019t, I guess.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022173ea60f9f384c4db9fb29252d59fe6b\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: Does she agree with Nicola Willis, who promised to achieve a surplus in 2026-27, reduce Government debt by $3.4 billion compared with the Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Update, not borrow for tax cuts, not cut front-line services, and introduce no new taxes, and are there any promises she doesn\u2019t intend to break?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228918aa74bafc4978b5c5be292b5f917c\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: Not only do I agree that we will keep our commitments, what I also agree is that it is a very good thing that this Government was elected, because if it wasn\u2019t, we would be continuing as a country down a path of deepening structural deficit, of escalating debt, of wasteful spending, and of high inflation, and I am so glad that the adults are back in charge.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bd4fb74a530648a487d33c380c880e5c\u0022\u003EHon Chris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: What reports has she received about alternative approaches to borrowing and debt?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228a87909cfe0244d4bf2f8cca5880e4c7\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I have seen a report from Radio New Zealand that said that Labour\u2019s finance spokesperson, Barbara Edmonds, said a future Labour Government would consider taking on more debt. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225b7e66fe2ed745c0902afe2fd5751d1c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I know that today is the last day of a long sitting block, but that sort of\u2014[Interruption] No one\u2019s gone from the House yet, but they may well be close.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227f337e10ea5241c996180c49736be9df\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 3\u2014Agriculture\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022 data-id=\u0022f7768b75ae5c47b0820446f9b5d58e68\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f7768b75ae5c47b0820446f9b5d58e68\u0022\u003ETANYA UNKOVICH (NZ First)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Agriculture: What recent announcements has he made?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022 data-id=\u0022e62b8a1844a44b9ba5d03d974ef634a7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e62b8a1844a44b9ba5d03d974ef634a7\u0022\u003EHon MARK PATTERSON (Associate Minister of Agriculture):\u003C/span\u003E In line with recent announcements, on Monday, myself alongside Minister McClay and local Wairarapa MP Mike Butterick embarked upon our first of our nationwide woolshed meetings, in the Wairarapa. We met with a significant turnout. Not only will we be outlining Government plans and priorities, we will also be seeking feedback. This Government is actually committed to listening to our farmers, primary sector, and rural communities. Over the next few months, we will be undertaking over 20 of these meetings, from Northland through to Southland. Of special interest to me is seeking input in relation to reviving New Zealand\u2019s strong wool sector.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002211544c88a0e942dc983ad459e9a83337\u0022\u003ETanya Unkovich\u003C/span\u003E: What engagements has he had with the sector?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022436910e191cd4ef4985c76fc5bab22a7\u0022\u003EHon MARK PATTERSON\u003C/span\u003E: Recently, I convened a meeting of key industry leadership. These individuals came from both the commercial sector and, crucially, within farming leadership. This is a group that has, for far too long, had their views poorly canvassed. From this meeting, I have tasked this group with establishing a pathway to a united and recognised industry voice. They are also tasked with exploring alternative pathways to market, capable of delivering much higher returns back behind the farm gate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002266edc11a344a4e0e973dbcfe771caed5\u0022\u003ETanya Unkovich\u003C/span\u003E: What other actions is he taking?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002274230770e657404c9ec5af86988e4c80\u0022\u003EHon MARK PATTERSON\u003C/span\u003E: Next week, I\u2019m taking New Zealand wool to the world. I will be leading a delegation of New Zealand wool manufacturing businesses to the International Wool Textile Organisation (IWTO) Conference in Adelaide. We aim to capitalise on the significant increased trend back towards natural and sustainable fibres. These end uses span from traditional carpets and upholstery to exciting new innovations like 3D-printed acoustics and pigments from wools, broken down into their component parts. Only by increasing demand in high-value end uses will we lift returns to our farmers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bd8384ac1ced444881c2a4b30709d70b\u0022\u003ETanya Unkovich\u003C/span\u003E: What benefit will this bring?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022372666757d784998b1646a7c0cb34f37\u0022\u003EHon MARK PATTERSON\u003C/span\u003E: This is the first time, actually, that New Zealand wool has been specifically featured at the IWTO\u2014it is quite a big deal. This represents a significant opportunity to showcase the attributes of New Zealand wool and the innovation of New Zealand\u2019s wool manufacturing capability to a large international audience. I am determined that the New Zealand wool sector will make a significant contribution to deliver on the coalition Government\u2019s agreement of doubling our exports in the next decade.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d760d1cb1dbe42ab8fee1d9fff8f3b2c\u0022\u003EHon Damien O\u2019Connor\u003C/span\u003E: To the Minister: why did he and his colleagues remove ministerial oversight of the Overseas Investment Office, that will mean that more funds go into foreigners\u2019 hands for the planting of pine trees?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002283bedf557c124692ba4892a1729a12f9\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Wait\u2014just a minute. I mean, there\u2019s been a lot of comment my way about\u00A0the appropriateness of answers to questions, but, similarly, questions should relate to the\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f237eb19b2764bcba479e7ff7b53a7fd\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d114080000524c3093c98fc3c5011fe9\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, you can have your point of order when I\u2019m finished. The question was \u201CWhat recent announcements has he made?\u201D, and if you\u2019re asking about what they have done, that may not be a recent announcement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002220e632a066ce488083ea9be41da30d40\u0022\u003EHon Members\u003C/span\u003E: It was a recent announcement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f1a62e9179bb4c19af03ca497f9a76b5\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225deeda958f304b949c0a7da6c860046a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, well, in that case\u2014no, no; no, sit down. In that case, we\u2019ll carry on. Ask the question again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022471dee54-f59e-4497-b3d3-c39044ce7169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b6d4a98e249e4d01a80e6f4ac0a96f67\u0022\u003EHon Damien O\u2019Connor\u003C/span\u003E: To the Minister and his colleagues: why was there a recent announcement that ministerial oversight of the Overseas Investment Office would be removed, which means more farms will be sold to foreigners to be planted in pine trees?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228b142286b3c848b983316259ad064bdc\u0022\u003EHon MARK PATTERSON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, that\u2019s speculation on the member\u2019s part, but I\u00A0would invite the member to address the question to Minister Penk, who is the relevant Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002223308b7e3b8d4546bcdabf44330ea0fa\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 4\u2014Environment\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022 data-id=\u0022151ff9eb34804b07aca1c6ed8cd0ccdf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022151ff9eb34804b07aca1c6ed8cd0ccdf\u0022\u003ELAN PHAM (Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for the Environment: Does she agree with advice from officials in the Our Land 2024 report that \u201CAn extractive approach to land reduces nature\u2019s ability to sustain itself and provide for us, putting our economy and livelihoods, food system resilience, natural ecosystems, and quality of life at risk\u201D; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022 data-id=\u00226a14fff17e4546b1b4e41b21ab7391e4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226a14fff17e4546b1b4e41b21ab7391e4\u0022\u003EHon PENNY SIMMONDS (Minister for the Environment):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker, and I thank the member for her question. I agree that we need to care of our land and our natural ecosystems. This Government absolutely believes that taking a balanced approach is necessary to best support our economy and livelihoods, food system resilience, natural ecosystems, and quality of life.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227df455d63c0e46c59e5b4bc82d61186a\u0022\u003ELan Pham\u003C/span\u003E: Is she concerned that extractive industries will soon be able to bypass the environmental protections in New Zealand law, including the Resource Management Act, the Wildlife Act, the Conservation Act, and the exclusive economic zone Act through the Government\u2019s proposed fast-track process?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bcf87995f6c549fd8b94a40ceec53c97\u0022\u003EHon PENNY SIMMONDS\u003C/span\u003E: The fast-track consenting bill is before the select committee at this time and so it would be inappropriate for me to make any comment on that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022771afb8290564caa88fe99a1b884adb7\u0022\u003ELan Pham\u003C/span\u003E: What advice, if any, was she invited to provide to Cabinet on the environmental risks of allowing extractive industries to fast track projects which are likely to harm natural ecosystems?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fd881174a68b4e4ba96df473d0439129\u0022\u003EHon PENNY SIMMONDS\u003C/span\u003E: I know that the member is very interested in the report and the data that is in the report and, absolutely, policies and decisions that we will be making in the future will be informed by the data and the information that is in this report.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c429e7f6181140d1b33b2dd443b7b032\u0022\u003ELan Pham\u003C/span\u003E: Is she concerned that having a Minister for the Environment outside Cabinet, and no environmental Cabinet committee, means that considerations about the environmental impact of laws and policies are not being given proper weight in the Government\u2019s decision making?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cc122129335e472e94625ab7248782e4\u0022\u003EHon PENNY SIMMONDS\u003C/span\u003E: No, I\u2019m not. As a Government, we are absolutely committed to protecting the resources, and this simply shows that we have a range of Ministers that are interested in environmental factors. We will be taking an evidence-based approach to our decision making. So we welcome this report and the data that\u2019s within it that will inform our decisions going forward. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022833118d470f4424b98824b5d47015d93\u0022\u003ELan Pham\u003C/span\u003E: Is she concerned that she has been left out of the decision-making process in the Government\u2019s Fast-track Approvals Bill, despite other Ministers being given the power to override legislation that is her ministerial responsibility?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d2995873-613f-4202-a773-5ea2d57cc953\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022000ecc0d17154daf85b08c130a4f2e5a\u0022\u003EHon PENNY SIMMONDS\u003C/span\u003E: Not at all. I\u2019ve been very involved in the process, and we are consulting widely and, as we work together as a Cabinet, I\u2019ve said that there is a wide range of Ministers who have important interest in the environment, and I\u2019m pleased to be one adding to those voices.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00225e1ba52f27b94185a2af1f877cb1d3a9\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 5\u2014Social Development and Employment\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022 data-id=\u00226dcea13199c541fdbc5fb713d8fb8396\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226dcea13199c541fdbc5fb713d8fb8396\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI (Labour\u2014Kelston)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Social Development and Employment: What advice has she received from the Ministry of Social Development that informed the Government target of reducing jobseeker benefits by 50,000 by 2030?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022 data-id=\u002222e29a42ac7c4193be4e37d3e4dea60a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002222e29a42ac7c4193be4e37d3e4dea60a\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON (Minister for Social Development and Employment):\u003C/span\u003E I\u2019ve received lots of advice from the Ministry of Social Development (MSD) to inform the ambitious target of ensuring more New Zealanders reap the rewards and opportunities a job provides. It\u2019s not possible to go through all the advice in the time to answer an oral question, including advice about the substantial increase in jobseeker benefit recipients over recent years and how the target means reversing this trend.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220c70af0f057542a6926f1d125d77aee8\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Did the Ministry of Social Development recommend the target of 50,000, and, if not, who did?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002236beb772717f4025b25401bf95cf2cf6\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: A number of scenarios have been looked at in terms of coming up with a target. We\u2019ve balanced it with being really ambitious in terms of\u00A0supporting the number of people into employment, and I\u2019m really proud to have landed on 50,000.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f4e6c65559ad4a03a2e06fc278c7823f\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Will those on jobseeker support - health condition or disability be excluded from the proposed 50,000 reduction; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d0bccd99af3043efbf374a726e3e1110\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: All job seekers deserve the same opportunities to get support and service to focus them on the rewards that work provides. We don\u2019t discriminate. We want to use every single day that is available to support people towards work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022981a179ef05243c38d537cc7dc85f779\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: How does she intend to reduce the amount of people on jobseeker support - work ready by nearly 50 percent at a time when unemployment is expected to rise?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d06147e81110418faa21259f56ff65d4\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: I accept that we are in really challenging economic conditions that we have inherited as a Government, but I don\u2019t shy away from the fact that every person who is either on jobseeker benefit now or may lose a job in the coming weeks and months ahead, MSD, the welfare system will be far more active in supporting people to be ready for work or in work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220e96b78fa1604102bd0bb2368cd14ea4\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Will the reduction of 50,000 beneficiaries be purely based on those who exit into work, or will they also include those who exit because they go to prison, move overseas, change relationship status, reach age of eligibility for superannuation, or, sadly, die, and, if all of the above, why does she keep saying the target is about supporting people into work?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224118cd6d8efe4fbb99e2596ecbcda8f8\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: We have nearly 190,000 people today on the jobseeker benefit. This Government is absolutely and deliberately focused on supporting people into employment, and the way we measure our success is to have 50,000 fewer people on the jobseeker benefit by 2030. It won\u2019t be easy, but it is a challenge that this Government embraces because we know the opportunities that having a job provides.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229751eee49b8048738caf13946b9e55ac\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. I want to know whether or not the exits of 50,000, or reduced number of 50,000 beneficiaries\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e2b262f155604b48a672a0f59a009592\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: This is not the way to get the answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022af7feebd68134dd7a217aa79a485e7a0\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I don\u2019t think that she addressed the question, Mr Speaker. Do you want me to explain why, or no?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220cd4b5e269be4798a0b95de1f220d865\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The problem rule is this: that people asking a question may not get the answer they want, but for them to explain why the answer they wanted hasn\u2019t been given is not part of the Standing Orders arrangements. So what I will do is, as much as I\u2019ve looked at another question I was asked to yesterday, I will look at the Hansard and make a call on that point. But I\u2019ll tell you what, to be fair and reasonable, have a supplementary that doesn\u2019t come off your list.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002209defddab37b4d99a52039ab6547f236\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: OK. Will the reduction of 50,000 beneficiaries be purely based on those who exit benefit into work?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221f5274a42b114606b9dbd21d15b54848\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: I don\u2019t think I can be any clearer. This is about those who are currently on the jobseeker support benefit\u2014not main benefits; jobseeker support. We want to see 50,000 fewer people receiving the jobseeker benefit support by the year 2030.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227fb23999b1364173b2c4ab45cb7a620f\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 6\u2014Housing\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022 data-id=\u0022213f00f680a64256ac20f405c5ac5fc1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022213f00f680a64256ac20f405c5ac5fc1\u0022\u003EJOSEPH MOONEY (National\u2014Southland)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Housing: What recent announcements has he made on steps to improve the rental market?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u00226906966676f34ca49d27dbcc12a58483\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226906966676f34ca49d27dbcc12a58483\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Minister of Housing):\u003C/span\u003E Today, I\u2019ve announced changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to encourage landlords back into the rental property market. We are reintroducing 90-day no-cause terminations for periodic tenancies, returning landlords\u2019 notice periods for ending a tenancy to 42 days in certain circumstances, and we are reintroducing landlords\u2019 ability to give notice to end a fixed-term tenancy at the end of a term without giving a reason. We know that waging a war on landlords just ends in pain for tenants\u2014part of the reason why rents have gone up by $170 a week in the last few years. We want to bring balance back to the rental market and bring landlords back into the market.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f8e8ea9464094ea1b0c30d8904e09a97\u0022\u003EJoseph Mooney\u003C/span\u003E: How will reinstating 90-day no-cause terminations improve conditions for renters?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002205fb79d6654f48c0a09c48271ba14bd9\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, over the last few years, we have heard from many landlords that without the backstop of 90-day no-cause terminations, they\u2019re just unwilling to take a chance on tenants who might have otherwise missed out on the rental market\u2014people leaving prison, for example; people with criminal records; or people at the edges of the rental property market. Giving landlords the backstop of being able to end a tenancy will mean more of them giving people a fair go with the reassurance that if things don\u2019t work out, they can end the tenancy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a4d071fce701415ab40da647e2933c38\u0022\u003EJoseph Mooney\u003C/span\u003E: What will these changes mean for Queenstown?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d52e6c4a0c3495d9206969e113750de\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, very positive changes for Queenstown. One of the effects of the 2020 changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to, basically, make the ending of a fixed-term tenancy almost automatically roll over to a periodic tenancy was the complete reduction in the number of landlords being willing to offer short-term rentals in a market like Queenstown. Instead, landlords decided it was all too hard, and instead those properties ended on Airbnb, actually, which has contributed to people sleeping in tents down by the foreshore in Queenstown, and other cases of hardship. I\u2019m also advised that there are other holiday hotspots where this happens, including Waiheke Island and places like Dunedin with the student rental property\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ac35d4fbc1d9444db5b35c1855a220ff\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: Come to Waiheke, Bish\u2014I\u2019ll show you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002246b59f9b06754815800f6c08ee838ab0\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, well, I just mentioned Waiheke; it\u2019s exactly the point I\u2019m making. So we are going to change that law back to what it was, which will mean that fixed-term tenancies mean fixed term.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253958f14-2b54-4d1c-bfac-7b3ea85e1c2b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e8171a7a37b24b9ba801b80b05aa40a7\u0022\u003ETamatha Paul\u003C/span\u003E: Can he guarantee that wh\u0101nau won\u2019t be kicked out of rental homes and the neighbourhoods that they\u2019re connected to as a result of the policies that he has announced today?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227edcc259f2384890bc9a6cb81bfa4d0e\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, no Minister can guarantee anything in Parliament, as that member knows, but what I would say is landlords don\u2019t kick out good tenants. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dec1281140b14ac198235c83f2abb847\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: We\u2019re just waiting.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225f4d9b4fe58043b2a74258309a864814\u0022\u003EJoseph Mooney\u003C/span\u003E: What else is the Government doing to fix the housing crisis?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022360ea48cb735412988bef7ca162d638e\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the Government has a five-point plan to fix the housing crisis. We need improvements to the rental market to make it easier to be a landlord and to be a tenant, but most fundamentally we need to smash the urban limits that are holding our cities back, fix infrastructure settings, and introduce incentives for cities and regions to go for growth. My colleague Minister Chris Penk is working on building and construction changes. We are going to deliver better social housing, and, most importantly, we are going to fundamentally reform the Resource Management Act 1991. Where the last Government failed, we will succeed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224ec837a8bcb1449590f1a4759e8e980d\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 7\u2014Media and Communications\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u0022254e1ea88fbb4b78b4b5cfa46a69c973\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022254e1ea88fbb4b78b4b5cfa46a69c973\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Media and Communications: Does she stand by her statement, \u201CMedia plays a very, very important role in our democracy\u201D; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022 data-id=\u002275e604a4886d49df88b44f41308af7d7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002275e604a4886d49df88b44f41308af7d7\u0022\u003EHon MELISSA LEE (Minister for Media and Communications):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, the media provides an important role in disseminating information and content for the benefit of New Zealand. I\u2019d like to take this opportunity to actually say it has been a deeply distressing time for many journalists, production staff, and longstanding members of the media community this week, and my deepest sympathies lie with them and their families as they navigate the situation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a9002778a35348cebf0c461c8fc96b35\u0022\u003EHon Willie Jackson\u003C/span\u003E: Why, given that statement and the unfolding crisis in the media sector, is there nothing for the media sector in the Government\u2019s full second-quarter action plan?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224c5ade2a40334317a2280ee88797acc1\u0022\u003EHon MELISSA LEE\u003C/span\u003E: The impact of the commercial decisions made by TVNZ and Newshub and other media operators across New Zealand is incredibly sad and I want to acknowledge how much of a distressing time it is for everyone involved. I\u2019m focused on helping the industry modernise and innovate so the industry can be more profitable going forward. There is no silver bullet to fix the current situation that TVNZ and Warner Bros. Discovery are facing at the moment. There is a process under way, and I\u2019ll have more to say when that process has concluded. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f5ad912e0da64ad784ab7ef1daf1fd4c\u0022\u003EHon Willie Jackson\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister think she has the confidence of the media sector, and, if so, what does she say to former TVNZ boss and TV3 political editor Bill Ralston, who, I quote, said, \u201CThe Minister has no idea what she is doing\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002201f43318d3f54fb8882901ff4bc7fff7\u0022\u003EHon MELISSA LEE\u003C/span\u003E: I can say that the sector can have confidence in the Government who actually listen to the people. I take no pleasure in the situation happening in Warner Bros. Discovery and TVNZ. There are challenges across the sector, like in many other parts of the New Zealand economy, due to the cost of living crisis. I am committed to working with the sector to support them to modernise and innovate so they can be more commercially viable. There is a process under way, and I\u00A0will have more to say once that process has concluded.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dfaecbe2d57c4c86ad9610c2f0c3cec1\u0022\u003EHon Willie Jackson\u003C/span\u003E: Who is correct, the former TV3 head of news Mark Jennings, who said, the Minister Melissa Lee is \u201Call at sea\u201D and \u201Cappears to have no vision \u2026 at all.\u201D or the very respected Newstalk ZB presenter Heather du Plessis-Allan, who said the Minister is \u201Cweird and shady\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fadb38bb73814bc5913a80b75941c482\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Look, you don\u2019t have to answer either of those. Got another question? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002237fd4a5a8e044225b7feda832cbd27a7\u0022\u003EHon Willie Jackson\u003C/span\u003E: Is it the case that, actually, the Minister has no plan, no one\u00A0supports or believes her, and she has to wait until Winston Peters gets back to do her\u00A0job for her?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224e53b6b1cc794019b789e926cea3883e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: You can answer one part of that multi-legged question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002218f9e3ea-81c5-4414-af48-d6bb843a9227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002225484cbfeaca42a4af8ecff46d618224\u0022\u003EHon MELISSA LEE\u003C/span\u003E: No. I have no responsibility for that member\u2019s comments as\u00A0well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aa94c69f9bc14c6e80395489b48a9117\u0022\u003EHon Willie Jackson\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister really have confidence in continuing in the job, given the fact that she has confessed to being \u201Cboring\u201D, \u201Cinarticulate\u201D, and \u201Cnot a magician\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022698566f43a8b43999eab762c7c8ad161\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, that\u2019s not a reasonable question. Try again. Try again. [Interruption] Hang on, just a minute. The member knows that personal reflections aren\u2019t the way in which we operate in this House. Without losing any of your allocation, if you wanted to ask a different question, that would be fine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002286d5d4ec22324ccb9394a90ab6dcc60f\u0022\u003EHon Willie Jackson\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Speaker, these are quotes from her.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222cb088db7a3247fa8628181a4fc6feb8\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, they may be, but they\u2019re still presented in a manner that is reflective of an individual, which we don\u2019t do in this House. So would you like to ask another question? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002239f84cb0ea6846c7b4905080d3d788f9\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: No. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022385c9802ff604248a044e0db5dadbae8\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, are you sure? [Interruption] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022984ee377a34444388b69aa1195cec4e2\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: I think he made his point, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002223c38824ab52483dbc39a747a15b925b\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, but\u2014just a minute\u2014he\u2019s sort of run out of broadcast.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a83af7109b4240c49e322ded0f9d3ae2\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 8\u2014Education (Partnership Schools)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022 data-id=\u0022d0709fd002204c09811b3a224e4fce5c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d0709fd002204c09811b3a224e4fce5c\u0022\u003EDr LAWRENCE XU-NAN (Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Education (Partnership Schools): Does he agree with the Public Health Communication Centre Aotearoa report on Ka Ora, Ka Ako that \u201Cthe evidence is clear: Ka Ora, Ka Ako alleviates hunger and less hunger improves school achievement\u201D; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022 data-id=\u00225e625fb4568f4311b39d091d5b86318d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225e625fb4568f4311b39d091d5b86318d\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN (Minister of Internal Affairs)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Associate Minister of Education (Partnership Schools): I haven\u2019t reviewed the report in detail, but I can say that there are some benefits to the taxpayer-funded school lunch programme and that we will be funding for a revised programme, something that the Labour Government failed to fund\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ef11d0379f7943319a609f5342000c08\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No need to reference any other party in regard to Government policy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002230c98d28d93347bea517b19adcba9a87\u0022\u003EDr Lawrence Xu-Nan\u003C/span\u003E: Can he guarantee that the quality, nutritional value, and the number of students receiving free lunches will not decline because of these cost-cutting measures?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002209f9eae22f5e4b43a278889c944fd5aa\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, the Government is committed to looking at the evidence and improving the cost-effectiveness of the\u00A0taxpayer-funded school lunch programme after the previous Government left it unfunded from 2024.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229bc85242ba9541a7b0798dd3a688164c\u0022\u003EDr Lawrence Xu-Nan\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022214bb5b98af24020bc2bb5b0066659ce\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Stay on your feet. Dr Lawrence Xu-Nan.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e82fd7036cab4c5a81be7881c40293aa\u0022\u003EDr Lawrence Xu-Nan\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry, you just mentioned before that the Minister should not be attacking the previous Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e06d10cc97e14972a25d453b7c162d5d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, but you would have listened to me in the last few days. It\u2019s not unreasonable for a Minister to talk about a situation that has been inherited, and the Minister did not step outside that requirement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225e6f4494696f43bdb4abd85a9416a915\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: To the second point of the member\u2019s question, I think a lot of people see Ka Ora, Ka Ako as a way of achieving other social goals, like improving nutrition. That may well be the case, but we don\u2019t fund the Ministry of Education for health reasons, just like we don\u2019t fund health for education reasons. This Government is committed to ensuring that we are putting the policy, with cost-effectiveness, into place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d13059ee346f43feb6c7467f53d4e93f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Dr Lawrence Xu-Nan\u2014you get three.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a1213fbd7ca346ad8f919a53e45b4461\u0022\u003EDr Lawrence Xu-Nan\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree, then, that we have a collective responsibility to ensure that no child goes hungry in Aotearoa?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ed0fb006d33045e8819ac899ba9422b4\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: I think it\u2019s common sense, and multiple international evaluations tell us, that students benefit from receiving food at school. But for the Ka Ora, Ka Ako programme itself, we have limited evidence of its impact on attendance and achievement, and it\u2019s very important for us as a Government that we are focusing on attendance and achievement at the heart of our education policies.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002298be869842d6415aaaf6cfd09428a05f\u0022\u003ELaura Trask\u003C/span\u003E: What correspondence has he received on the programme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229a15012f3fb640daa984a57f321fb13a\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, one teacher has told my\u00A0office that\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fb6aa3266d354b8db17fe6c38579ff1d\u0022\u003EHon Jan Tinetti\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, one teacher.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d54bd285af174aacbd6db02edca62151\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014\u201COnly about 40 percent of the students take up the offer of a free lunch.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a3c8843c1bfc4a2da479dc0b426e969e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Just stop for a minute. Just stop. Let them\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fb70bc4ea1964d108ec3d6e4e260b95a\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: This is what an evidence-based decision-making Government looks like.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220a74bcc2870f47a0aa9711ed6d7f3446\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, good. Well, it only takes one person to walk out of here, too, so please answer the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225d8b00c14a294c2db33242984f62f8df\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: Once again, on behalf of the Minister, one teacher has told my office that \u201COnly about 40 percent of the students take up the offer of a free lunch, depending on what is on offer. The majority of what is taken ends up in the garbage. The college then gives away the remainder to local churches and the iwi. I agree that this needs to be targeted.\u201D Another correspondent has written that so much food is left over from one local school that some of it ends up as pig food.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022299053244b434ad7aad34e0a5949f360\u0022\u003EHon Dr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. I happen to have Parliamentary Practice in New Zealand with me\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f36aedac8ee047b78c71a29d9850548a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry, you\u2019re going to have to speak into your microphone. I didn\u2019t hear any of that. Sorry, look, points of order are heard in silence.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002227ecc2ee4a1745f2b9573c0297d78b3d\u0022\u003EHon Dr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: The member quoted from a piece of correspondence to the Minister, and at paragraph 50.6.2, it makes clear that that correspondence is an official document, and even if she doesn\u2019t have it with her in the House, I would ask that she\u00A0table it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cc98b7036edd49d6b4bc3883cb9dd14d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, you can ask all you like, but the House won\u2019t be doing that. So we\u2019ll move now to\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bee84ed385244986a50f75fccf75e92f\u0022\u003EHon Dr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: Speaking to the point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222c6010d5755d4d97988a194d55070391\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Are you speaking to your own point of order? I\u2019ve ruled on it. I have ruled on it\u2014well, a few times I have.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002256eb7d785bfe40498f1bfb9d7cbfce17\u0022\u003ERicardo Men\u00E9ndez March\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order. I seek leave for the Minister to table the correspondence\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002277ff657894404c1a882376039fde4e99\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Wait a minute. Wait on. Just a little bit of order. I know you get excited about these things. What do you want to do now? You say, \u201CPoint of order.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002210867206917a4039ac297eef032fd31f\u0022\u003ERicardo Men\u00E9ndez March\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228ac9ff08dbb44e56aaf0e239a4b4b94a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: And I say, \u201CPoint of order, Ricardo Men\u00E9ndez March\u201D, and you say\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ebe7d3d63d2b45c983168ef02c4dcfff\u0022\u003ERicardo Men\u00E9ndez March\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. Thank you for recognising my eagerness. I seek leave for the Minister to table the correspondence she just quoted in the previous answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221406042db4944c93b201eb037d042e45\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, are you seeking leave on behalf of another member? I don\u2019t think you are. So you\u2019re seeking leave on your own behalf?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bfe9ca8f47ce403c821d09c54e02efe4\u0022\u003ERicardo Men\u00E9ndez March\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m just seeking leave myself. I didn\u2019t believe that it needed to be the person asking the question who needs to\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b0543ccfca4b4930a9035cc7f4426cd2\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I don\u2019t think that\u2019s quite how we can progress this one.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ccf3668652974a0f9a7f8323871afa6c\u0022\u003EDr Lawrence Xu-Nan\u003C/span\u003E: If we\u2019re taking\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aa41792cab3340a1aa316b552dad0c1c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry\u2014wait. Dr, please wait till we get a bit of quiet in the House. OK. Away you go.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229a07fcdbfc3949f885bb7a0b6f143e66\u0022\u003EDr Lawrence Xu-Nan\u003C/span\u003E: If we\u2019re taking individual correspondence, what would the Minister say to student Malachi Iafeta, who said the school lunches mean \u201CStudents are\u00A0a bit more active during class, they\u2019re healthier. I know some students who didn\u2019t\u00A0come to school because they didn\u2019t want to, and the food has really given them a reason and has actually made them study\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222b7ae77c1e8d4fb996fb324e25a68317\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, I thank the member for his question. We can also respond with equal evidence and correspondence from another relief teacher, who said\u2014and I quote\u2014\u201CI\u2019m a relief teacher at a low-decile school in West Auckland and I can assure you that less than half of the free Government lunches are eaten by the children. They are regularly eaten by only about a quarter of most of the classes, and the rest are binned.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002229ec91939df8443e948c1ff5c88efdd6\u0022\u003EDr Lawrence Xu-Nan\u003C/span\u003E: Then what does the Minister say to the wh\u0101nau of \u0101konga at Tikipunga kura, who said that if their tamariki could not access school lunches, they would feel \u201Cdisheartened, as not all student wh\u0101nau have the ability to provide lunches for their tamariki\u201D, and \u201Cdevastated, because money is tight\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c96f8ef5471a4df3b2cfced931c62e7d\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, what I would say to those people who have corresponded with that member is that this Government is committed to the Ka Ora, Ka Ako programme; however, what we\u2019re committed to is cost-effectiveness of the programme. We shouldn\u2019t be looking at extending how much money we are spending, but we should be looking at making sure it\u2019s going to the right places.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224b50302922b943c6bdc07b76b6911ddc\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 9\u2014Transport\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b9dc1924-4df4-4d8f-91ec-8a0f29348308\u0022 data-id=\u0022752f741180d749978a6ab953a5cdef78\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b9dc1924-4df4-4d8f-91ec-8a0f29348308\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022752f741180d749978a6ab953a5cdef78\u0022\u003ETIM COSTLEY (National\u2014\u014Ctaki)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Transport: What recent announcements has he made on speed limits in K\u0101piti?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022 data-id=\u002234d58f91135a4918ad63957cdedb510f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002234d58f91135a4918ad63957cdedb510f\u0022\u003EHon SIMEON BROWN (Minister of Transport):\u003C/span\u003E Great news. On Tuesday, I announced that the New Zealand Transport Agency has proposed to increase speed limits on the Mackays to Peka Peka and Peka Peka to \u014Ctaki sections of the K\u0101piti Expressway to 110 kilometres per hour, with consultation on these changes beginning 22 April. This road of national significance, started by the previous National Government, was designed to a safe standard suitable for 110 kilometres per hour, and enabling these expressways to have this speed limit is part of this Government\u2019s plan to speed up our economy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b9dc1924-4df4-4d8f-91ec-8a0f29348308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002226b9fff5fa8d42edbf54b32943c9a4af\u0022\u003ETim Costley\u003C/span\u003E: What reports has he seen on the safety benefits of the K\u0101piti Expressway?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002282e912c94b824eae810c873104e5c5c6\u0022\u003EHon SIMEON BROWN\u003C/span\u003E: This particular road, which is having a proposal to increase the speed limit to 110 kilometres per hour, is incredibly safe; started by the last National Government, designed and constructed to a high safety standard. Since the expressway opened, no one has died in a crash on this expressway, and there\u2019s been a 70 percent reduction in roads in the K\u0101piti district. The coalition Government is committed to delivering safe and new roads of national significance across the country to get people and freight where they need to go, quickly and safely.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b9dc1924-4df4-4d8f-91ec-8a0f29348308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022941eb355e94f45b7b8003afe759fab19\u0022\u003ETim Costley\u003C/span\u003E: How does the proposed change of speed limit on the K\u0101piti Expressway fit in with the Government\u2019s plan to get New Zealand moving again?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002255d0b7a4-a2c9-4c38-9b77-475311a48a89\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228f271324ebcf472fa7abc64467c529e6\u0022\u003EHon SIMEON BROWN\u003C/span\u003E: Well, the coalition Government is stopping the previous Government\u2019s blanket speed limit reductions and is enabling new and existing roads of\u00A0national significance to have speed limits of 110 kilometre per hour. Rather than forcing people to slow down, our plan ensures that, when speed limits are set, economic impacts, including travel times and the views of road users and local communities, are taken into account alongside safety.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c77f69577acd4d83b979436aeac8be52\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 10\u2014Justice (Firearms)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022 data-id=\u0022b46d4b7185f74c2b913c54c0d46092a2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b46d4b7185f74c2b913c54c0d46092a2\u0022\u003EHon Dr DUNCAN WEBB (Labour\u2014Christchurch Central)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Justice (Firearms): Does she stand by all of her statements and actions in respect of firearms reform?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002258baa209-edaf-42a5-92d6-b2613c144bfb\u0022 data-id=\u0022cfbd46183b9545878b39cbe4caa581d4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258baa209-edaf-42a5-92d6-b2613c144bfb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cfbd46183b9545878b39cbe4caa581d4\u0022\u003EHon NICOLE McKEE (Associate Minister of Justice (Firearms)):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, especially my statement regarding the fact that semi-automatic firearms were never banned under his Government. The fact of the matter is that there are over 6,600 licensed firearm owners in New Zealand who have licence endorsements which can allow them to possess a semi-automatic firearm. Semi-automatic firearms were never banned under that member\u2019s Government; many were merely transferred on to other firearm licence endorsements such as \u201Cprohibited\u201D, \u201Cpistol\u201D, and \u201Ccollector\u201D endorsements, among others.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002267c9cc68971e472da2731b4602fdcbb6\u0022\u003EHon Dr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: Does she stand by her statement regarding reintroducing semi-automatic weapons like those used in the Christchurch mosque attack: \u201CI\u2019m not reintroducing anything. Those firearms [are] already here. In fact, we have 6,600 people who have endorsements to be in possession of those firearms\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258baa209-edaf-42a5-92d6-b2613c144bfb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f7724e5b584544fa86df8b67aff470d9\u0022\u003EHon NICOLE McKEE\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, I do stand by that statement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022df187d5a121d4db183039696931d5306\u0022\u003EHon Dr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: Who is correct in relation to high-powered semi-automatic rifles: the police Minister when he said, in response to written questions, \u201CAs [of] 1\u00A0March 2024 there are 328 persons authorised to possess and use (including firing live\u00A0ammunition) a prohibited firearm for the purposes of pest control\u201D, or the Minister when\u00A0she said, \u201Cwe have 6,600 people who have endorsements to be in possession of\u00A0those firearms\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258baa209-edaf-42a5-92d6-b2613c144bfb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227ab4c349ff2445788fef2fc01f80d88d\u0022\u003EHon NICOLE McKEE\u003C/span\u003E: Both those statements are correct. But the way that the member has asked the question, I think he needs to go and have a look at the difference between the endorsements and prohibited licences, because, yes, there are 328 pest controllers out there, but there\u2019s also a large number of members of the licensed firearms community that can still use those prohibited firearms. Now, there is a difference between what Brenton Tarrant used and what is a centre-fire semi-automatic, and I suggest, if the member would like, I can give him some education in differing and understanding what they both are.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022acd7e103ce6f4ae6b361943b5c5748ce\u0022\u003EHon Dr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: Why did she say that \u201Ccurrently, over 6,600 New Zealanders are licensed to possess semi-automatic firearms\u201D when asked by Mark Cameron in this House on 27 February 2024 \u201CWill her Government allow competitive shooters to use semi-automatics for sporting purposes?\u201D when the question was clearly referring to high-powered semi-automatic rifles which are prohibited for such events?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258baa209-edaf-42a5-92d6-b2613c144bfb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002285c6e95c98ea42f4bbcdbb9a4877f333\u0022\u003EHon NICOLE McKEE\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m very confused by that question. For one, there\u2019s no such thing as a high-powered semi-automatic\u2014we have rim-fire; we\u2019ve got centre-fire. And if I may, Mr Speaker, all firearms that are in the wrong hands of the wrong people can actually make damaging and catastrophic effects. But I just kind of wonder\u2014I\u2019m more than happy to sit with the member and work through so that he understands the differences between our different endorsements: prohibited, restricted, and endorsements.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223b1b8926edb746d2ab4ef8cfa9dbe191\u0022\u003EMark Cameron\u003C/span\u003E: What comments has she seen from the Police Association?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258baa209-edaf-42a5-92d6-b2613c144bfb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002269524e3685c34e54a3343b215f9b7590\u0022\u003EHon NICOLE McKEE\u003C/span\u003E: I did see a comment from Mr Cahill that read \u201Cshe is using these figures to try and suggest that semi-automatic firearms are already widely available when they\u2019re not\u201D. I would suggest that Mr Cahill cease trying to mislead the public. After working adjacent to the firearms community for many years, he will be well aware that semi-automatic firearms can be owned on a number of licence types and licence endorsements.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6489ff5-e18c-4c19-958d-3cec5c52c0cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d66a6db1fff34c8e909b95866849de1d\u0022\u003EScott Willis\u003C/span\u003E: What sport does the Minister believe centre-fire semi-automatic firearms are suitable for?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258baa209-edaf-42a5-92d6-b2613c144bfb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221288c465a1e247fbaf0f7627205f91c7\u0022\u003EHon NICOLE McKEE\u003C/span\u003E: My personal opinion on what I have not taken to Cabinet yet is not a discussion for the House at this stage. When it comes to looking at whether or not there will be, in addition to the sporting exemption that we already have for some users\u2014such as pistols, for example\u2014it needs to be a decision that is made by Cabinet. As yet I\u2019ve not had advice on that position, and I\u2019m not ready to take that position to Cabinet.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aa7479e7a8444c76960d7c047b2dddfb\u0022\u003EHon Paul Goldsmith\u003C/span\u003E: Does she stand by her statement, \u201CThis Government is the adult in the room, and we are committed to finding a solution to this issue for the benefit of public safety and practical regulation.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258baa209-edaf-42a5-92d6-b2613c144bfb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022407c7a30056142238d16677bd33e517e\u0022\u003EHon NICOLE McKEE\u003C/span\u003E: Absolutely. We are definitely the adult in the room. In the 2018-19 year, there were 2,076 conviction charges for firearm-related offences, but in the 2022-2023 year, this has increased to 2,588. This is a 24 percent increase. New Zealanders have not been made safer by the rushed firearm laws, and this Government is wholly committed to righting the wrongs for the past for the benefit of public safety and practical regulation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022076ffe2f818f409aac8875d8d23e0fd6\u0022\u003EHon Dr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: Does she agree with Tom Mauser, whose son was killed in the Columbine school shooting, when speaking of semi-automatics being used for sport shooting: \u201CI understand that there are people who have fun firing these weapons \u2026 But, we have to get beyond fun and we really have to consider the danger.\u201D; if so, why is she distracting from the debate on the danger of semi-automatics by suggesting they\u2019re more widely available than they really are?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258baa209-edaf-42a5-92d6-b2613c144bfb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ae4ddb32c71d4d32ad975d011dbcb8c3\u0022\u003EHon NICOLE McKEE\u003C/span\u003E: My sympathies go out to all of the families that have been affected by the Columbine shooting, but it is of an important note that we are not America, we do not have their laws, and our laws and legislation will be relative to what we have here in New Zealand and the use of those firearms.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002259b59166dac44d24ba14d70771a3ada4\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 11\u2014Housing (Social Housing)\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d64de4c1-ef68-477e-9c50-db5cbdf99404\u0022 data-id=\u002276cb0d4426f448b7ada63b66a94f51d5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d64de4c1-ef68-477e-9c50-db5cbdf99404\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002276cb0d4426f448b7ada63b66a94f51d5\u0022\u003ETOM RUTHERFORD (National\u2014Bay of Plenty)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Housing (Social Housing): What recent announcements has the Government made about emergency housing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022 data-id=\u00221ac66070af3146e3a5807c69621339f5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221ac66070af3146e3a5807c69621339f5\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA (Associate Minister of Housing (Social Housing)):\u003C/span\u003E It is calamitous to see so many wh\u0101nau in emergency housing, and we\u2019ve recently announced a target of 75 percent reduction of the number of households in emergency housing by 2030. We want emergency housing, motels, and other accommodation to be a last resort, for a short period of time, for those in genuine need.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d64de4c1-ef68-477e-9c50-db5cbdf99404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222fe5d9a4fb0c4114a898ee9b6d69b2f0\u0022\u003ETom Rutherford\u003C/span\u003E: How realistic is the 75 percent reduction in emergency housing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b1d598477c1c4482af9bc693d2ad9b3c\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: The target is deliberately ambitious. We want wh\u0101nau and tamariki to have safe, warm, and nice homes. Emergency housing should be a last resort, for a short period of time, for those who genuinely need it. The mahi is not a quick fix\u2014it\u2019s hard mahi. It requires sustained and coordinated effort, something that, in our role as the K\u0101wanatanga, as the Government, we are committed to do, and setting a target, rather than talk, focuses attention.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d64de4c1-ef68-477e-9c50-db5cbdf99404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b99a60a9acc747748b77a1fd02448b02\u0022\u003ETom Rutherford\u003C/span\u003E: What are the kinds of things the Minister will be doing to meet this target?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d2565cc6e9e44677ab329b0127c46796\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: Tamariki are a big focus. No one wants to see tamariki, our children, growing up in these motels. And the K\u0101wanatanga has announced a priority one category for wh\u0101nau with tamariki who have been in emergency housing for 12 weeks or more, prioritising them on the social housing register. As my learned sentinel the Hon\u00A0Chris Bishop has most recently said, to end New Zealand\u2019s cataclysmic housing crisis, we need to use many tools to increase housing supply and to enable more homes and houses for all New Zealanders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d64de4c1-ef68-477e-9c50-db5cbdf99404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e79f781041a34aac8d94d4f3f942e7e1\u0022\u003ETom Rutherford\u003C/span\u003E: Why is there a target for emergency housing and not another part of the housing system?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002270f00f34c332453fa9620175d215517c\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: Emergency housing is the basis of a target because that\u2019s where we think we can have a significant impact on vulnerable New Zealanders. Long-term, large-scale use of emergency housing is a social, moral, and cultural catastrophe. We can make an impact right now by prioritising tamariki in emergency housing\u2014like a mother and her three tamariki who moved into a home in T\u016Branganui-a-Kiwa recently, who said, \u201CAt one stage, we were all living in a tent in a friend\u2019s backyard. That\u2019s where we were when Cyclone Gabrielle struck, and that backyard got flooded. I\u2019ve been grateful to have a roof over our heads, even though it has been very cramped and restrictive. Four of us living in a small bedroom in a studio has been challenging.\u201D Kia kaha t\u0101tou. Mauri ora. [Let us all be strong. Power and wellbeing (to all).]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227c86bcf4929d4ed286c1ab8b7e167724\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 12\u2014Veterans\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u0022e09ef09f292b44939794cda00487f16e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e09ef09f292b44939794cda00487f16e\u0022\u003EGREG O\u2019CONNOR (Labour\u2014\u014Ch\u0101riu)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Veterans: Does he agree with RSA National President Sir Wayne Shelford that \u201CNew Zealand has legislation that is discriminatory and inadequately provides for New Zealand\u2019s veterans of military service\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022 data-id=\u002269d63e78063c4a6e9a825c0a800bc151\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002269d63e78063c4a6e9a825c0a800bc151\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW BAYLY (Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister for Veterans: I want to thank the member for his question, and I also want to acknowledge all those who have served in the New Zealand Defence Force. I\u00A0agree that there are improvements which can be made so we can provide more support for veterans. I would like to acknowledge the Royal New Zealand RSA for their consistent advocacy for veterans in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002231e945bef5ca4d3e86995eec0fd25cb0\u0022\u003EGreg O\u2019Connor\u003C/span\u003E: What will the Minister, given that it is two weeks until Anzac Day, be telling those veterans who have been removed from the waiting list for Veterans\u2019 Independence Programme (VIP) services?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022540744b09bc1418197e81f973b457779\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW BAYLY\u003C/span\u003E: Well, first of all, I dispute the premise of that question. What has happened is that all those who have served\u2014the Chief of Defence has reallocated the staff to process the unacceptable backlog of health claims for those veterans with medical conditions associated with their service. And the reason he has done that is the dreadful legacy that the previous Government has left us to deal with, because it\u2019s taking up to 361 days to process these medical claims, and it is an outrageous situation for New Zealand veterans.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e677f918e4f64676b7ae4888174e7656\u0022\u003EGreg O\u2019Connor\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Minister accept that less services will be available to veterans now as a result of the decision not to proceed with the applications of those on the waiting list?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002273417513faeb4920b48cff443117259d\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW BAYLY\u003C/span\u003E: I dispute the claim that there will be less services available.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c22e1dfb23c74c3e899f72ef6e3fe47c\u0022\u003EGreg O\u2019Connor\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Minister prepared to guarantee funding to the RSA to provide the services currently provided by the Veterans\u2019 Independence Programme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002201f29b0d8eae434998e84a2d297a97bd\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW BAYLY\u003C/span\u003E: In terms of funding, the veterans at the moment receive about $131 million for covering pension costs, and there\u2019s another $30 million for administering the schemes, including the VIP scheme that the member talks about. That funding is something that\u2019s under review, in terms of whether that could be increased, but that level of funding is something that keeps and supports New Zealand veterans, and it is rightly so.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a9e7b5184b7d4e80bca7a582b959383b\u0022\u003ETe Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00222076fe4140784b06ac4b68929992dc6d\u0022\u003EFirst Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u00228c433786843f4071b5c32716d4c093a2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228c433786843f4071b5c32716d4c093a2\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I present a legislative statement on Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua Claims Settlement Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226d4c7b193fdf49608b6528f52159f388\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That legislative statement is published under the authority of the House and can be found on the Parliament website\u2014kua t\u0101ngia taua tau\u0101ki \u0101-ture i raro i te mana o te Whare, \u0101, ka kitea ki te pae tukutuku a te P\u0101remata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022287049d05e6146578bd94e003f284912\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH\u003C/span\u003E: I move, That Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua Claims Settlement Bill be now read a first time. I nominate the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee to consider the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ET\u0101kiri mai ana te ata, ki runga o ng\u0101kau m\u0101rohirohi. K\u014Drihi ana te manu kaupapa. Ka ao, ka ao, ka awatea. T\u012Bhei mauri ora. E mihi ana ki a koutou kua tae mai nei, e te hunga karanga o te kaupapa o te w\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. E mihi ana ki te hunga mate. Haere, haere, haere atu r\u0101. Ki a t\u0101tou te hunga ora, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EE mihi ana ki a koutou kua tae mai nei, i runga i te karanga o te kaupapa o te r\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113na koutou katoa. E mihi ana ki te hunga mate. Haere, haere, haere atu r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EKi a t\u0101tou te hunga ora, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou. Kia whakam\u0101nawatia te mana o \u0113nei whenua, ko Te \u0100tiawa, ko Toa Rangatira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. T\u0113nei m\u0101tou te K\u0101wanatanga e mihi nei ki te kaupapa o te w\u0101, e Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, Uenuku, Tamakana, Tamahaki, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E[The dawn rises on a stout heart. The morning bird sings. It is day. The breath of life expelled. I greet you all who have arrived, those of you who have come for the purpose of the day. Thank you. I acknowledge those who have passed on. Farewell. And to those of us in the world of the living, I acknowledge us.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI greet you all who have arrived, those of you who have come for the purpose of the day. Thanks and greetings to all of you. I acknowledge those who have passed on. Farewell.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EAnd to those of us in the world of the living, I acknowledge us. I acknowledge the authorities of these lands, Te \u0100tiawa, Toa Rangatira, greetings to all of you. We, the Government, acknowledge the purpose of this time. Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, Uenuku, Tamakana, Tamahaki, thanks and greetings to all of you.]\u00A0\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EIn July last year at Raetihi Marae, Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, representing the interests of Uenuku, Tamakana, and Tamahaki signed a deed of settlement with the Crown. Today, there are members of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua watching from the public gallery who have travelled to Wellington for the occasion of the first reading. There are many more members of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua who are watching this first reading online from their rohe and around the motu. I extend a warm welcome to you all and thank you for being here with us, both in person and online, to witness the first reading of your bill. The first reading represents a valuable opportunity to reflect on the relationship between Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua and the Crown.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EIn May 1840, 15 rangatira signed the Raukawa Moana Treaty sheet at Whanganui, including Te Peehi T\u016Broa and his son Te Peehi P\u0101koro T\u016Broa. They expected a relationship with the Crown that was based on fairness, justice, and honour, and that their tino rangatiratanga over their lands and taonga would be protected. Instead, the Crown did not uphold the promises it made, and Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua have paid the price for our nation\u2019s development. Large tracts of their land were purchased or taken for public works, including for the North Island main trunk railway line to create scenic reserves, for defence purposes, for electricity generation, and for two of New Zealand\u2019s national parks. By the 20th century, the iwi of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua were virtually landless, yet they have worked tirelessly with strength and perseverance to retain their language, their tikanga, and their identity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EIn 2015, the Crown recognised the mandate of Uenuku Charitable Trust to represent the people of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua to negotiate a comprehensive historical Treaty of Waitangi settlement. An agreement in principle was signed in 2018. On 29 July 2023, Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua deed of settlement, Te Tihi o te Rae, was signed at Raetihi Marae following a ratification process by Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua claimant community. I\u00A0thank the people of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua for their perseverance and patience during this journey to achieve this signing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EWe remember and pay tribute to Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua t\u012Bpuna who have suffered grievances, and we acknowledge the leaders and loved ones of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua who have passed away over the course of the settlement; it\u2019s been a long journey since the first Wai claims were submitted in relation to this claim in the 1980s, and they have waited a long time to be heard.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI acknowledge and thank the negotiators, the Chair of Uenuku Charitable Trust, Aiden Gilbert; the lead negotiator, Chris McKenzie; and negotiators Paora Haitana and Steve Hirini. I also wish to recognise the work of their legal counsel, Deborah Edmunds. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI acknowledge the people of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua of Uenuku, Tamakana, and Tamahaki, and I acknowledge their patience throughout the settlement\u2019s negotiations, which were long and sometimes difficult.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EOn the Crown\u2019s side, I want to acknowledge my predecessors, the Hon Andrew Little and the Hon Christopher Finlayson. I\u2019d also like to thank our chief Crown negotiator, Katherine Gordon, for her hands-on leadership throughout these negotiations. I also want to thank the former chief Crown negotiator, Rosemary Banks, for her work on the early part of the negotiations. I also have a significant number of ministries and agencies who have been involved in the settlement, and I would like to thank you all for your support.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ETe Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua Claims Settlement Bill seeks to give effect to the settlement package as outlined in the legislative statement. The settlement includes financial and commercial redress valued at $21.7 million and cultural redress funding of $6.85 million; the return of sites of cultural significance, including three sites that will be jointly vested in Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua and neighbouring iwi; 12 commercial properties, including Crown Forestry land at Erua and the former prison site at Waikune; recognition of the vision of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua to establish an eco-sanctuary at Pokaka to reinvigorate native flora and fauna, including an overlay classification and conservation management redress; the right to nominate a member of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua to the Tongariro Taup\u014D Conservation Board and the establishment of a strategic advisory committee to ensure that they have governance-level engagement on conservation issues; relationship redress with a range of Crown agencies including the National Emergency Management Agency\u2014a first in Treaty settlements. This will give both parties an opportunity to work together to coordinate local responses to emergencies in both Tongariro and Whanganui National Parks.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThe deed of settlement also recognises the importance to Uenuku, Tamakana, and Tamahaki of the Tongariro National Park and Whanganui National Park, including the maunga Ruapehu, Tongariro, and Ng\u0101uruhoe. The deed records the Crown\u2019s commitment to negotiate collective redress over the national parks in good faith.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EToday is about looking forward while acknowledging the past and the long and difficult journey it has taken to get here. The redress contained in this bill provides a foundation that will benefit the people of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua for generations to come. It will support them in their future endeavours and in realising their aspirations for their iwi. Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, this is the first reading of three, and I look forward to hosting you again, here, to support the passage of your legislation through the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI consider that the bill should proceed without delay to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. I commend this bill to the House. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022f43f725805044fd791a9ab3868a7156d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f43f725805044fd791a9ab3868a7156d\u0022\u003ERt Hon ADRIAN RURAWHE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Kor\u014Dria, hareruia ki a Ihowa o Ng\u0101 Mano, t\u016Bauriuri, wh\u0101ioio k\u012B tonu te rangi me te whenua i te nui o t\u014Dna kor\u014Dria. Whakapaingia t\u014Dna ingoa i te ao, i te p\u014D, i ng\u0101 w\u0101 katoa. T\u012Bhei mauri ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EE tika ana kia whakapiri i taku mihi ki ng\u0101 mihi ka tukuna atu ki a Te Atiawa, Taranaki wh\u0101nui i te r\u0101 nei. Ki a koutou kua tae mai, Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua. Ng\u0101 uri o Uenuku Tamakana Tamahaki. Ko koutou \u0113nei, ko ahau t\u0113nei, ko t\u0101tou \u0113nei. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, nau mai, haere mai. Whakatau mai r\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[Glory, hallelujah to God of the many, of the masses. The land and skies are full of His glory. We praise His name at all times. Health and vitality to all of us.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EIt is appropriate that I add my acknowledgments to Te Atiawa and the wider Taranaki tribe today. To you who have arrived today, Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, the descendants of Uenuku Tamakana Tamahaki\u2014that is you, that is me, that is us\u2014I acknowledge you and welcome you. Be settled here. Thank you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s a great honour for me to speak to the first reading of this settlement legislation for an iwi that I whakapapa to. My whakapapa to this iwi is through my grandmother Iriaka R\u0101tana, who was a member of this House as well, from 1949 to 1969. It\u2019s a real honour for me to speak to this piece of legislation on her behalf because her people, my people, have arrived here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI\u2019m also proud to wear my p\u0101kohe taonga. It will for ever be a reminder to me of this day. P\u0101kohe is actually included in this legislation under one of the mechanisms, as part of this legislation allows the post-settlement entity to be able to go and collect p\u0101kohe from the riverbeds in certain agreed areas, along with a number of other cultural materials that are important to this iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI want to talk about the iwi for a little moment, because many people might not have heard of Uenuku, Tamakana, and Tamahaki. Actually, that\u2019s one of the breaches of the Treaty by the Crown. The identity of this iwi is part of the grievance, in my opinion, and it\u2019s really important that those names are heard in this Whare. It\u2019s important that the hard work that went in over a long, long period of time to get to this day is acknowledged.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge a couple of people: Robert Cribb\u2014affectionately known as Uncle Boy Cribb. I want to mention him, because he passed away last year and he would have loved to be here. But I mention his name, because\u2014and my wh\u0101nau know this\u2014I\u00A0am quite Ng\u0101 Wairiki Ng\u0101ti Apa - centric. I was the chair of that side of me for quite some time. I used to turn up to different meetings representing Ng\u0101ti Apa, and Uncle Boy would be there representing as well. I knew exactly what he was going to say every time I saw him: \u201CYou know you\u2019re Tamahaki, eh?\u201D \u201CYes, Uncle, I know that. But I\u2019m here representing my koro, not you.\u201D But I wanted to mention his name so that his name goes into the Hansard\u2014that\u2019s why.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI also want to acknowledge Aiden Gilbert. E te tu\u0101kana, ng\u0101 mihi atu ki a koe. I say\u00A0that because it\u2019s been a long, hard road, and I know you have carried a lot. So I\u00A0acknowledge that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003ESome people say that this process is flawed, and it is. But one of the things that every iwi that goes through this process has to ask themselves is what can this process deliver and what can it not deliver, and they ask themselves the important question: can we live with that? Dozens of iwi before this iwi, Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, have made that decision to do it, and so we come today for this. Some will say that this is a pittance, and that\u2019s OK\u2014that\u2019s their opinion. But let me tell you that dozens of iwi that have come through this process and have flourished, and that is my aspiration for you as well. You should not be left behind.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EThe other thing too we asked ourselves is make sure that we don\u2019t allow the next generation to carry the burden of the intergenerational trauma caused by the breaches to Te Tiriti by the Crown. We have an obligation to make sure that they don\u2019t have to carry it. We have an obligation to make sure that what they do is enjoy the benefits of this settlement and that they have the responsibility to grow the settlement asset for future generations as well, and I\u2019ve got no doubt about it that, with the tenacity of the likes of Aiden Gilbert and others, that will happen. So that\u2019s actually my main message for this.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226c3e9e05326f458b87c937fa84f13fcd\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: It was a very long one! \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002297a3b32df0d5468a8311706a50a3aa9a\u0022\u003ERt Hon ADRIAN RURAWHE\u003C/span\u003E: I won\u2019t add to what the Minister has said. The Minister has covered everything. The cultural redress\u2014and there\u2019s a lot. It\u2019s a huge amount of cultural redress. I\u2019ll mention one: the cultural revitalisation. The first one was actually negotiated by Ng\u0101ti Apa. In any settlement, that was the first one ever done. This one is six times bigger, and I congratulate Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua for getting that amount of cultural revitalisation. That\u2019s going to make a huge difference. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003ESo, to all of you, I\u2019m going to leave it there. Ka nui te mihi aroha atu ki a koutou i\u00A0runga i te tukunga iho o r\u0101tou m\u0101 e te W\u0101hi Ngaro. N\u014D reira koutou, t\u0101tou ng\u0101 uri o Uenuku Tamakana Tamahaki t\u0113nei te mihi ake. T\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[My compassionate thanks to all of you with respect to the heritage left behind by ancestors and God. And so to us, the descendants of Uenuku Tamakana Tamahaki, I acknowledge you. Thank you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022 data-id=\u00220a82c914379f40f2b63101a5fb800bff\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220a82c914379f40f2b63101a5fb800bff\u0022\u003ESTEVE ABEL (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Ng\u0101 mihi nui, Uenuku tangata, uri of Tamahaki and Tamakana. When I heard the weeping of your whaea in the p\u014Dwhiri today, it was profoundly moving, and it felt like the grief of 200 years, and\u00A0it could not but touch us to hear that level of feeling. You have been wronged, and you have been taken from and disrespected, and today, this House acknowledges that wrong.\u00A0The Crown is here to acknowledge that it has taken part in that wrong and it has\u00A0committed that wrong, but once again it is you who shows generosity, because\u2014pardon me, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228dcc7d1e2b434f1baf6720f0f31b4a41\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, no, I got you\u2014you\u2019re right.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002290ca7d77c66847fdbbbe16a754559f35\u0022\u003ESTEVE ABEL\u003C/span\u003E: It is Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua that shows generosity, because you come here at short notice to restore the honour of the Crown. Again, it is the generosity of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge that these settlement processes are divisive for iwi; we hear this time and again throughout the motu. I\u2019ll quote you, Mr Gilbert\u2014I hope you don\u2019t mind\u2014because you put it so succinctly: no iwi would say redress was enough. \u201CWhat is enough? [It is] never going to be enough if we measure things. If we do calculations and equate things, these are just crumbs off the table. But the healing has to start \u2026 as long as the Crown doesn\u2019t continue to do wrong. In the 10 years of doing negotiations, they were still tripping over themselves and continuing to do what they did to us historically as people. Therein lies the challenge.\u201D Mr Gilbert, you said the settlement means \u201Cwe can say who we are and speak for ourselves.\u201D So I want to acknowledge that this recompense is a tiny fraction of what was lost, and if this process has been divisive, I hope that today marks the beginning of your binding back together.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003EIf there is not justice for M\u0101ori, there can be no legitimate place for tauiwi in these lands. We, as Te P\u0101ti K\u0101k\u0101riki, stand by that principle of justice for M\u0101ori. We are not content with the idea of full and final settlements, I just want to say, but I want to salute you for your commitments, among other things, to this principle of healing that you speak of and acknowledge that it must be on the basis that the Crown does no more harm. That is the challenge to all of us in this House, that we take seriously the ending of the harm being done to iwi and to M\u0101ori and to hap\u016B throughout this nation, and of the policies that undo and take away the self-determination of iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003EI also want to salute your efforts to restore the mana of the nature and the wildlife in your rohe. One of the terrible pathologies of colonisation is the destruction of nature. As an ecologist, it breaks my heart to think of what has been destroyed and lost: the magnificent forests of the central North Island and other parts of the nation, and the wildlife and the birds. I wish you all the greatest success in restoration of the k\u0101k\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003EHere, today, we stand, we acknowledge the wrong that has been committed, and we bless you on your journey for healing. We as a House unanimously acknowledge that there is a way forward for this nation in recognition of those wrongs and in making amends for those wrongs. However small those amends are, the intention must be to bind us together in relationship for the good of the future. Kia ora koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022 data-id=\u0022268d02ae0a4c4eee9258d5301c8b03d4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022268d02ae0a4c4eee9258d5301c8b03d4\u0022\u003EMARK CAMERON (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Before I open my introductory remarks to Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua Claims Settlement Bill speech, I just want to acknowledge my wonderful researcher Tangi Gardiner, who worked very, very diligently and hard on this to help me understand this settlement process. I also want to mihi to those here today and all the ancestors that you bring with you in spirit. We acknowledge the time it has taken to get here, the people who are, and all of those that are not able to be here with us today but are physically somewhere else in the country. We hope this settlement will allow you the resources, time, and space needed to heal and move forward together.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003EOur aim today is to acknowledge the wrongs of the past and to make the necessary legislative changes required to allow iwi, hap\u016B, and all the people hurt by the actions of the Crown the long-awaited apology that you all deserve. This bill acknowledges that by the signing of Te Tiriti o Waitangi in Whanganui in May 1840, the ancestors of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua sought to build a partnership based on fairness, justice, and honour. The bill acknowledges that the Crown breached that agreement and failed to protect iwi, hap\u016B, and wh\u0101nau in Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003EI mentioned the tragedy between the Moutoa Island, where wh\u0101nau were fooled to pick between the K\u012Bngitanga and the Pai M\u0101rie, and the protection of European settlers. We want to acknowledge that this tore apart the region, separated families, and caused loss of life and trauma to both sides.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003EThe battle of \u014Choutahi caused the death of multiple ancestors of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua. Both situations breached the agreement that the iwi made with the Crown and eventually led to the rushed purchasing of some 411,196 acres, in which the Crown has acknowledged they moved with\u2014and I quote\u2014\u201Cunreasonable haste\u201D. The iwi was never offered any opportunity to object to confiscations and ended up losing ownership of multiple blocks of land, including their ancestral mountain.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003EWe also stand here to acknowledge, today, that in the second half of the 20th century, Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua children who attended Crown-established schools were punished for speaking their own language and this has contributed towards the decline in te reo M\u0101ori among iwi and Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua people. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022489d736b-2629-4bc7-8d38-6319c7797a33\u0022\u003EContrary to popular belief, ACT has always supported the Treaty settlement process. The Treaty is a good, fantastic founding document that brings us all, as Europeans and M\u0101ori, together, so we all support this historical Treaty settlement process. We believe in this process. It is a good process, and we are glad that we are able to make it right, make good the wrongs of our past, and move forward as one nation. We support full and fair and final Treaty settlements and are glad to stand absolutely in support of this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u0022d740e1f121a64ebeab5ec3587c157bcf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d740e1f121a64ebeab5ec3587c157bcf\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou e te Whare, hei t\u012Bmatanga, kia t\u016Bkuna atu e ahau ki a koutou ng\u0101 uri a Aotea waka, Uenuku me \u0113r\u0101 atu o ng\u0101 torotoronga i waenga tonu i t\u014D t\u0101tou ao M\u0101ori e noho mai n\u0101 i raro i te maru o t\u014D koutou maunga, i roto noki i \u0113r\u0101 papa k\u0101inga i k\u014Drerotia ai e te kaik\u014Drero whakamutunga. N\u0101 reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. He nui noa atu ng\u0101 k\u014Drero p\u0113nei kua oti i ahau n\u014D roto i ng\u0101 tau ka hia r\u0101nei te tini te p\u0101hemo kua riro ko koutou hei mihinga m\u0101 m\u0101tou i t\u0113nei r\u0101. Otir\u0101, hei aha m\u0101 m\u0101tou \u0101-kanohi, mihi atu ki a koutou. Pai k\u0113 me whakamahara i roto i te Whare te r\u0101rangi o \u014D koutou t\u016Bpuna, o \u014D koutou m\u0101tua n\u0101 r\u0101tou te p\u012Bkaunga nei i h\u0101pai i poipoi i t\u014D r\u0101tou w\u0101. Kua riro ko koutou te hunga kua whakaritea hei whakatutuki i t\u0113nei pito o te kaupapa. N\u014Dreira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[Greetings to the House. Firstly, I would like to acknowledge you all, the descendants of Aotea waka, Uenuku and the other M\u0101ori kin of ours that live under the shade of your lofty mountain. And also to those villages that were acknowledged by the previous speaker. Salutations to you all. There are many such sentiments that I have expressed within the many years that have past, you are the reason for my sentiments today. Therefore, I stand here face to face to acknowledge you. I would also like to remind us here in the House of the responsibilities that were upheld and taken care of by your ancestors and your elders in their time. The responsibility is now on you lot to take care of at this end of the matter. And so thank you, thank you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ENew Zealand First stands to acknowledge that we, obviously, will support this settlement. I\u2019ve said in our reo that a number of us have been involved in this journey\u2014in my case, since 1986, as the translator for Matiu Rata\u2019s lawyer David Baragwanath in the original Muriwhenua fisheries claims that kicked off in 1986, along with Sir Graham Latimer and the Maunganui claim. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EBut, today, we are referring to the tangata whenua from that part of the North Island which I regarded as the coldest that God ever put breath into. During the 1990s, my wife and I would occasionally go to this area, because my wife was a niece of the Sonny Pehi wh\u0101nau, and quite a few Ng\u0101puhis married into these people in this part of Aotearoa. Of course, the Pehi wh\u0101nau produced New Zealand\u2019s famous champion boxer. I can assure you, to get on the wrong side of the wh\u0101nau of my late wife demonstrated you learn about the ability of boxing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ESo there\u2019s a great deal of warmth today in the House. In a funny way, this is quite a complicated settlement. Although it\u2019s modest in fiscal size, its complication derives from the many instruments that are in here. I want to read into the record that on page 79, in clause 114, I have finally found some tangata whenua who agree with minerals: p\u0101kohe; \u014Dnewa; mat\u0101 t\u016Bhua, which we call obsidian; paru.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EIn fact, I recently was in Te Arawa, where they have perfected healing with the various paru Waiariki, one-uku, clay. In the 1980s, it was Baye Riddell and Manos Nathan, the son of the famous M\u0101ori Battalion leader Uncle Ned Nathan, who was captured in Crete and was nursed back to life by his wife\u2019s people. He eventually married one of their wh\u0101nau, and they\u2014his son\u2014were the people in the 1980s who revived the utilisation and, quite frankly, evolved the utilisation of uku into clay pottery. They were supported by the Navajo, who came at that stage in the 1980s and stayed on our marae in Tai Tokerau, when those links were very, very strong and very, very fresh. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EPapa hoanga, sandstone, and kokowai\u2014these are elements of the earth; these are elements of our identity. In Te Tai Tokerau, we have one such clay called pukepoto, and it\u2019s the only clay that was used by my grandmother\u2019s generation to create the blue effect of mixing clay with the preparation of various plant materials. Not surprisingly, Matua Shane Jones was wildly distracted on other things. However, I do remember that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ESo e te wh\u0101nau, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. This is when I say it is complicated, because it represents a great deal of responsibility to monitor and to exercise oversight in terms of\u00A0the multiple pieces of land and the statutory representations that are reflected in this\u00A0Act,\u00A0which you have to share with a number of your neighbours. So, for those of us who have a longstanding involvement in the M\u0101ori political economy, we know that, number\u00A0one, it\u2019s not easy, and, number two, if it\u2019s not carried out in an efficient manner, it can be very, very burdensome.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EHowever, today, in this first reading, as the bill travels through the huarahi of your legislature, I stand on behalf of New Zealand First, and I must, before I sit, acknowledge the earlier Ministers. We have Minister Goldsmith here and Minister Little, but also, obviously, Minister Finlayson dedicated a great deal of his time as well, not only to this settlement but to a host of others. So Godspeed, and we will see you at the other end of this parliamentary journey. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022 data-id=\u00229e59f030b842464daf57a46c09d6c4ee\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229e59f030b842464daf57a46c09d6c4ee\u0022\u003ETAKUTAI TARSH KEMP (Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori\u2014T\u0101maki Makaurau):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, e te P\u012Bka. Matua, Tama me Te Wairua Tapu, ng\u0101 Anahera Pono ko te M\u0101ngai hei tautoko mai. \u0100e.\u202F\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker. Father, Son and the Holy Ghost, the Angels and the Prophet that guides us. Amen.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003EAs we stand here today, as a mokopuna of Ng\u0101 Rauru, Ng\u0101ti Maniapoto, and M\u014Dkai P\u0101tea, I mihi to the wh\u0101nau of Tamahaki, Tamakana, and Uenuku. To the kuia, kaum\u0101tua, the dedicated negotiators, hap\u016B leaders, and the vibrant wh\u0101nau who have tirelessly worked and walked the long path that has led us to this point of historical acknowledgment and settlement, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003EThe journey here has not been without its immense challenges and profound mamae that has been endured by a people across generations. This pain, this mamae, is acknowledged here today with the understanding that no settlement can truly compensate for the losses and suffering. However, it is with hope and a forward-looking spirit that we see this settlement as a pivotal step towards justice, healing, and prosperity of our people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003EDelving into the heart of our history, the story of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua is one of resilience, of unity, and of unbreakable connection to the whenua. From the mid-19th century, our ancestors lived, farmed, and hunted across the central North Island; their lives intrinsically woven into the history of Tamahaki, Tamakana, and Uenuku ki Manganui-o-te-Ao through whakapapa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003EWhen the Treaty of Waitangi was signed in 1840, there was an expectation of fair treatment, justice, and honour; yet what followed was a series of events that would see Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua and its people face confiscation, conflict, and a disregard for the agreements that were supposed to be protected to them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003EFrom the Crown\u2019s strategic land grabs without consultation in the 1870s to the confiscation of the North Island main trunk railway without consent in the 1880s and the resulting land losses for public works throughout the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the impacts have been profound and enduring.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003EThe present struggle is a continuation of its legacy. The Crown\u2019s negotiation tactics and politics are working to divide and rule, sidelining and ignoring the voices of our wh\u0101nau and hap\u016B. The Treaty settlement process, ironically, has become a breach of the Treaty itself, a symbol of colonisation\u2019s enduring legacy of shifting goal posts until we forget who our opposition is.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003EIt is our continued commitment to you, our wh\u0101nau, our people, that Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori will unequivocally continue to fight for Te Tiriti o Waitangi in this House. As the only Tiriti-centric party, we will continue to hold this Government to account. Whilst the Tiriti settlement is just another clip of the ticket, their true commitment to your settlement, the settlement of the Taranaki maunga, and settlements to come will only be judged through their actions. Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori asserts that the justice can only come through the assertion of tino rangatiratanga through self-management, self-determination, and self-governance over all our domains. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003EIt is time to transcend the Treaty settlement process, to restore mana to tangata whenua and establish our own processes for retaining our lands and rights. Te Tiriti o Waitangi is a covenant to be honoured, not settled. Our ancestors signed Te Tiriti before any breaches occurred, under the understanding of a partnership and shared sovereignty that is yet to be realised.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003EWe will not settle for mere fractions offered in settlements. We will continue to be the unapologetic voice for a Tiriti-centric Aotearoa, for an Aotearoa hou, striving for a future where our mokopuna can experience the true partnership envisaged by our t\u016Bpuna. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002256295840-7a18-46fb-bbb3-164ac3edf716\u0022\u003EToday is about acknowledging the path we have walked, the challenges faced, and\u00A0the steps towards justice and self-determination. It is about celebrating the resilience, strength, and the beginning of a new chapter in the proud story of Te Korowai o\u00A0Wainui\u0101rua, Tamahaki, Tamakana, and Uenuku. Ka nui te aroha ki a koutou katoa.\u00A0Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022 data-id=\u0022046d33cd64014bec98ad2faff1ceda2e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022046d33cd64014bec98ad2faff1ceda2e\u0022\u003EDAN BIDOIS (National\u2014Northcote):\u003C/span\u003E T\u012Bhei mauri ora. E ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 reo, e ng\u0101 iwi, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Te Whare e t\u016B nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Te papa e takoto nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Ng\u0101 mate, haere, haere. Ka mihi ki te iwi k\u0101inga ki Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, nau mai, haere mai. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003E[Health and vitality to all. To the esteemed guests, the voices, the tribes, I acknowledge you all. To the House that stands here, thank you. To the land that lies here, thank you. To those who have passed on, farewell. I acknowledge the home tribe of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, welcome. Thank you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s my pleasure to rise and make a contribution to this debate today and to welcome our guests from up North, the principal iwi, today. Uenuku, Tamakana, Tamahaki, welcome to you, and it\u2019s our pleasure to be here with you today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EI\u2019d also like to acknowledge your t\u016Bpuna, who cultivated and hunted on the land that this settlement is recognising. I\u2019d also like to acknowledge the rangatira and the son who signed the Treaty\u2014and I might get this wrong\u2014Te Rangiwhakarurua, and the expectation that they had for fair treatment, equal citizenship, justice, and mana, and it\u2019s that expectation that the Crown has failed to live up to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to also acknowledge Ministers Andrew Little and the Hon Paul Goldsmith, and also the Rt Hon Adrian Rurawhe, who whakapapa to your rohe. My question might be: what iwi does he not whakapapa to in Aotearoa?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EThis is a historic occasion. This is the 101st settlement that comes before this House. It is also a historic occasion for the iwi of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, because this has been some years in the making. This bill gives effect to the deed that acknowledges the actions of the Crown and that those actions breached the Treaty, leading to land confiscation and the iwi becoming nearly landless\u2014virtually landless\u2014the mana that was taken away, and also the mamae that was caused, as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EThe provisions of this deed give effect to an amount of redress\u2014financial redress\u2014and I\u2019d like to acknowledge it is a pittance for the amount of land that was confiscated. The land in question is over 600,000 hectares\u2014and that is the same, actually, with all settlements that have gone before this House in that no settlement can really address the actions that the Crown has made. But, in the spirit of bipartisanship, as my colleagues on the other side have said, the hope is that this goes some way to acknowledging the past but also enabling your iwi to focus on the future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EIt is that chance to heal and focus on the future that I look forward to hearing, as the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, which is where this bill goes after today\u2014I really look forward to the submissions. I\u2019d like to encourage members here today and members online to make a submission on that bill, because I look forward to hearing some of the historical accounts but also to hearing the aspiration, and I\u2019d like to extend an invitation. If you would like us to come up to your rohe and hear those submissions in person\u2014the select committee, that is\u2014we\u2019d welcome that, but we will leave that in your court. But, on behalf of the committee, we extend that invitation to visit your rohe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003ESo it is my pleasure to stand on behalf of National and on behalf of the select committee for M\u0101ori affairs to commend this bill to the House. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u002222fe5088f7b3455aab10a5b1b61b479c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002222fe5088f7b3455aab10a5b1b61b479c\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E E mihi ana ki a koutou, te wh\u0101nau, kua tae mai nei i t\u0113nei w\u0101, i whakarangatira i te Whare. He h\u014Dnore nui ki te t\u016B i mua i a koutou i t\u0113nei w\u0101. T\u0113nei te tino mihi ki a koutou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[I acknowledge you all, the family, who have arrived here at this time, and honoured the House. It is a great honour to stand before you at this time. This is a true acknowledgment of you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWell, it\u2019s lovely to have the wh\u0101nau here. I was listening to Shane Jones earlier, talking about his experiences. It\u2019s lovely when we have Minister Jones on song with us. It\u2019s really been that sort of week\u2014we\u2019re all on song together. Unity and love has come through the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cfbc8e6c616d457ea61587dc09bae949\u0022\u003EJenny Marcroft\u003C/span\u003E: \u201CKumbaya\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228b61ba4296d5462ba2e777ce8e767ba0\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, \u201CKumbaya\u201D, as Jenny Marcroft said. It\u2019s been quite a week, so it\u2019s lovely to have wh\u0101nau here to tautoko this kaupapa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EThese are the types of kaupapa we do come to whakakotahi for\u2014unite for. Last night, we had a special event here that a lot of our wh\u0101nau will not have seen, where our Pasifika people came in and the House united\u2014well, most of the House\u2014which is how it should be. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EYou wouldn\u2019t know when we go through these Treaty bills that there has been angst over kaupapa M\u0101ori over the last few months, and I always look at it and I think it\u2019s a bit of a shame because I do see the human element from all members on these sorts of kaupapa. These sorts of kaupapa touch people\u2014they really touch people. They touch something in people\u2014the injustice of what happened to our people. As myself and the Hon Peeni Henare know, and we know this process as well as anyone up there, you went into this process 35 years ago\u201435 years ago our people went into this process. It\u2019s a long time to wait for justice\u2014a long time to wait for justice. So when you come here and the wh\u0101nau honour us with their presence, we should remember the type of struggle that has gone on with our kaum\u0101tua and our kuia before us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI was listening to Minister Jones talking about the minerals stuff. I thought that that was really lovely, what he was talking about. He didn\u2019t talk about his minerals strategy, though, but he talked about\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002260474dfb44854a0eae68dc66965fb947\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That didn\u2019t relate to the bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225124e2ad34584daf89d15052933e5ecb\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: No, that\u2019s true, Madam Speaker\u2014that\u2019s true. He didn\u2019t talk about his minerals strategy, but he did a lovely analogy in terms of the tikanga of the minerals and the reo\u2014as we all know, he\u2019s an expert, and he\u2019s very clever in that area. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EBut the bill acknowledges so much of what we\u2019ve gone through. You know, I was looking through it and just acknowledging what happened with our reo\u2014with our language. In just simple paragraphs like \u201CThe Crown acknowledges that in the second half of the twentieth century, Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua children who attended Crown-established schools were punished for speaking their own language and this has contributed to the decline of te reo M\u0101ori among the iwi of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua.\u201D\u2014and just to have that in a settlement means so much, doesn\u2019t it? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EIt means so much, because sometimes when our people talk about our parents or our t\u012Bpuna being beaten for speaking M\u0101ori, they are challenged over that. They are challenged over that. Peeni Henare knows it, as does Shane Jones. These two are both experts in our language\u2014Tama Potaka, also\u2014and they know of the history and the background. We love to see that in settlements like this, and I was reading and I thought that that\u2019s not in all settlements. But it\u2019s an acknowledgment, and what that does to an iwi is that it crushes an iwi, because all of a sudden, you only have so few people who are M\u0101ori language - proficient. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESo this is only the first reading, and we\u2019ll tautoko this all the way through. But I just want to say to wh\u0101nau who have come here today that it\u2019s just wonderful to participate in the process. I mihi to our M\u0101ori Affairs Committee chair, Dan Bidois, over there, and the former Ministers Andrew Little and Chris Finlayson, and Minister Goldsmith for us always being able to find a way through things, let common sense prevail, and let our people have the opportunity to develop. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESo just a short call today to tautoko our iwi and tautoko the kaupapa today. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022 data-id=\u00229b948dd47d3a41bbb4a20b1cad957a1c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229b948dd47d3a41bbb4a20b1cad957a1c\u0022\u003ESUZE REDMAYNE (National\u2014Rangit\u012Bkei):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EKo Ruapehu te maunga\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EKo Turakina ta awa\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EN\u014D Rangit\u012Bkei ahau\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EKo Dossor Redmayne toku wh\u0101nau\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EKo Suze t\u014Dku ingoa\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003ET\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003E[Greetings, everyone.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003ERuapehu is the mountain\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003ETurakina is the river\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EI am from Rangit\u012Bkei\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EDossor Redmayne is my family\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003ESuze is my name\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EThank you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EI must start by acknowledging the descendants of Tamahaki, Tamakana, and Uenuku who have come to Parliament today for the first reading of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua Claims Settlement Bill. I also acknowledge the hurt, the sacrifice, and the sheer hard work they endured over many years to get here. I pay tribute to the kuia and kaum\u0101tua who are no longer here, who also fought hard, and who were among the first to submit claims to the Waitangi Tribunal in the 1980s. They have waited a long time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EWhen the Uenuku Charitable Trust, representing Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, and the Crown signed an agreement in principle in July 2023, trust chair Aiden Gilbert, who is here today, recounted a story of old. It was the story of four symbolic gifts given to the Prime Minister Michael Joseph Savage at Parliament in 1936 by Tahup\u014Dtiki Wiremu R\u0101tana, the founder of the R\u0101tana Church. R\u0101tana first presented Savage with three huia feathers representing M\u0101ori. They were protruding from a potato, which symbolised the land taken from M\u0101ori, leaving them unable to grow their staple crop. A pounamu hei tiki tiki represented M\u0101ori mana and prestige, which had also been lost. A pin with a star and crescent moon was the symbol of the R\u0101tana Church. His final gift: a broken gold watch, handed down to R\u0101tana by his grandfather. It represented the broken promises of the Crown. It was time to give back their land.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EIt is said that these items had such a profound impact on Savage that when he died in 1940, they were buried with him. It is fitting that Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua\u2019s agreement in principle was signed at the Rautahi marae, watched over by the R\u0101tana Church on the hill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EThe people of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua have waited a long time. Nau mai haere mai ki te Whare P\u0101remata. Now is their time. This settlement is a significant milestone for my people of Uenuku, and I\u2019m especially proud to speak to the first reading of this bill as the member of Parliament for the mighty Rangit\u012Bkei. Together, their story is a painful story of conflict and loss, grievances, and injustices. It is a history of large-scale loss of ancestral land, land taken to facilitate the logging of the great Waimarino forest, and to facilitate the construction of the main trunk line which helped to build the colony\u2019s towns and cities, which helped to build New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EThe bill acknowledges breaches of Te Tiriti o Waitangi, which literally left hap\u016B and iwi landless, and caused significant and ongoing socio-economic harm. The symbolic division of the Whanganui River at Pipiriki, with Whanganui to the south, and the three hap\u016B of Uenuku, Tamahaki, and Tamakana to the north\u2014those to the north were labelled \u201Chauhau\u201D, or rebels, by the Crown. They endured the stigma of the \u201Chauhau\u201D label, and they endured the subsequent painful divisions between the iwi and the iwi of Whanganui.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EI acknowledge this bill has been a long time coming, and it hasn\u2019t been without its challenges. Although Tamahaki, Tamakana, and Uenuku are distinct tribal entities, they are tightly connected through whakapapa, and a shared history. In negotiations, they demonstrated manaakitanga as a people, and as iwi. In the words of Raetihi\u2019s Eliza Piu, \u201CAt the end of the day, Suze, we\u2019re all related. We\u2019re all wh\u0101nau, and that\u2019s the most important consideration\u201D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EI would also like to mention something else I heard during the course of my conversations with people involved in this protracted and complicated process. Treaty settlements are not just a gravy train for M\u0101ori; they honour redress for M\u0101ori, but they\u00A0also provide huge economic, social, and wellbeing benefits for all, across communities, and, in this case, across the mighty Rangit\u012Bkei. They are a springboard for hope, progress, and prosperity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003EToday begins the next chapter of acknowledging the people of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua and their mana whenua, of acknowledging my people of Uenuku, the God of the rainbow. I tautoko them all. I support them, and I\u2019m incredibly proud to speak for them on this momentous day. Together, they can finally see the future. Today is a rainbow day. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022 data-id=\u0022b5d7e096aa3b4545856a446b4c1de88c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b5d7e096aa3b4545856a446b4c1de88c\u0022\u003EHon PEENI HENARE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Tupu mauri ora ki te whei ao, ki te ao m\u0101rama, tihewa mauri ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti, e tautoko atu ana i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero ki te hunga mate. N\u014D reira e \u014Dku rangatira, ng\u0101 mana nui kua whakaemi mai nei ki raro i te maru o Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, t\u0101pirihia \u014D t\u0101tou mate ki te t\u0101huhu k\u014Drero o t\u014D t\u0101tou Whare e t\u016B nei, kia tukuna atu e te Whare te mihi, te poroporoaki atu i te hunga mate. N\u0101 kua wahaina mai \u0113tahi o r\u0101tou kua riro atu ki te p\u014D, heoi an\u014D kotahi tonu te k\u014Drero ki te hunga kua riro atu: haere mai, haere.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKa whakahokia mai ng\u0101 r\u0101rangi k\u014Drero ki a t\u0101tou katoa, e ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 tapu, e ng\u0101 tini whanaunga, e tika ana ng\u0101 k\u014Drero a t\u014Dku matua nei, a Shane: te maha hoki o Ng\u0101puhi, o Te Taitokerau ki roto i a koutou. I heke iho ki roto i a koutou ki te mahi r\u0113riwei, ki te mahi whakat\u014D paina, whakatopa w\u0101hie, \u0113n\u0101 mahi katoa hei hanga i te t\u016B\u0101papa o ng\u0101 mahi \u014Dhanga ki roto o Aotearoa nei. N\u014D reira koina t\u0101ku e mea atu ana ki a koutou, e \u014Dku whanaunga, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, nau mai, haere mai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ENau mai, haere mai i roto ki t\u0113nei mahi kua mea atu \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 mema o te Whare nei, \u0101 he uaua. Engari ki te nuinga, k\u012Bhai r\u0101tou i tino m\u014Dhio ki te uauatanga o te huarahi i takahia n\u0101 e koutou ki roto i ng\u0101 tau maha. N\u014D reira e tautoko atu ana i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero, kua tae mai koutou, kua roa rawa t\u0101 koutou takahi i t\u0113nei huarahi, n\u0101 kua tae mai koutou ki t\u0113nei, te p\u0101nuitanga tuatahi o t\u0113nei pire. K\u0101re e kore e tautoko atu ana i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero a te Minita, te H\u014Dnore Paul Goldsmith, ko te hiahia kia whakatere ake t\u0113nei kia oti pai ai te p\u0101nuitanga tuatoru ki roto i t\u0113nei Whare kia whakamanahia t\u0113nei pire, kia tahuri ake he ture ka whakamanahia e te Whare P\u0101remata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira haere mai e ng\u0101 tini whanaunga. Kua \u0101hua kata pai au, me pono taku k\u014Drero ki a koutou. Kua rongo atu ahau i te ng\u0101kau rangim\u0101rie ka tau ki roto i t\u0113nei Whare, me te k\u012B a \u0113tahi, \u201CPai t\u0113nei mea te Tiriti o Waitangi, pai t\u0113nei mea te mahi ng\u0101tahi a te Karauna me te M\u0101ori.\u201D Engari kua rongo atu ng\u0101 taringa o te ao M\u0101ori ki roto i ng\u0101 marama kua pahure ake nei he mea kino t\u0113nei mea. He mea kino te co-governance e k\u014Drerohia ake nei. \u2018tahi ka kitea ki roto i te pire, ka k\u012B atu, \u201C\u014C, he huarahi pai t\u0113nei.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira e harikoa ana ka whakamanahia ki roto i t\u0113nei ture. Heoi an\u014D t\u0101ku e mea atu ana ki ng\u0101 mema o t\u0113nei Whare, te k\u014Drero ki roto i a au, o Ng\u0101puhi, e mea atu ana p\u016B ana a roto, k\u0113 ana a waho. N\u0101, ko te ngako o t\u0113r\u0101 k\u014Drero i te rangi nei, kua rongo atu i te kare \u0101-roto o te ng\u0101kau o ng\u0101 mema o te Whare nei. Engari kua kite atu i te w\u0101 o te k\u014Dwhiringa p\u014Dti, e hoa, he teka ka puta mai i te waha. Me te k\u012B atu, \u201CHe mea kino t\u0113nei mea te mahi ng\u0101tahi a te Karauna me te M\u0101ori.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EE mea nei t\u0113nei mahi e mahingia e m\u0101tou ko te co-governance t\u0113n\u0101. N\u0101 kua kite atu i t\u0113nei w\u0101, \u201C\u014C, he mea pai ki roto i t\u0113nei pire.\u201D N\u014D reira e mihi atu ana ki a koutou, e ng\u0101 whanaunga. Kua whai w\u0101hi ake ki roto i ng\u0101 mahi a ng\u0101 tari K\u0101wanatanga. N\u0101 kua k\u014Drerohia mai n\u0101 e te Minita m\u014D aua tari K\u0101wanatanga, n\u0101 kua whiwhi t\u016Branga koutou i roto i ng\u0101 mahi ki roto i t\u014D koutou ake rohe, me taku harikoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKua \u2018hakatutukihia ki roto i te pire, me te hiahia kia whakaranea ake ki te motu wh\u0101nui. N\u014D reira e mihi atu ana ki a koutou, me te k\u012B atu kei konei tonu m\u0101tou hei tautoko ake i t\u0113r\u0101 wh\u0101inga matua kua wh\u0101ia e koutou. N\u014D reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti kua k\u014Drero mai te Whare m\u014D te \u0101huatanga o te p\u016Btea, me te hiahia kia kite atu i te whakarauora i ng\u0101 tu\u0101kiritanga M\u0101ori ki roto i a koutou, te reo M\u0101ori\u2014\u0113n\u0101 mea katoa. Engari ko t\u0101ku atu ki ng\u0101 mema o te Whare nei, me kaua te Kawanatanga e p\u014Dh\u0113h\u0113, e, kua p\u0101hi te whutup\u014Dro ki t\u0113tahi atu, kei a r\u0101tou k\u0113 ng\u0101 take nui o te ao. Kei konei tonu te K\u0101wanatanga hei \u0101rahi i ng\u0101 mahi e arahingia nei e te K\u0101wanatanga hei oranga m\u014D te katoa. Kaua e tukuna atu m\u0101 te iwi; anei w\u014D rahi, an\u0101 ka nui t\u0113n\u0101. Ko te k\u012B kei konei tonu te mahi a te K\u0101wanatanga m\u014D te oranga o te katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira ka nui t\u0113nei m\u0101ku. Ko te hiahia kia kite atu i a koutou ki roto i te roanga ake o t\u0113nei haerenga o te pire. E mihi atu ana. Kia pai ai t\u014D koutou hokinga atu ki te w\u0101 k\u0101inga. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare. Kia ora t\u0101tou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E[Vitality flourishes in the emerging world, the world of enlightenment, it is the breath of life.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWell, I support the statements to those who have passed on. And so, my noble leaders, the great authorities that have gathered beneath the mantle of Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua, add our dearly departed to the apex beam of our House that stands here, so that the House may extend its greetings and farewells to the deceased. Some of those who have passed into the night have been conveyed here, and there is but one thing to say to those who have passed on: rest in peace.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ELet the lines of discourse now return to all of us, the authorities, the consecrated, my many relations, the statements made by my sire, Shane, are true: there are many Ng\u0101puhi, many from Northland among you. They made their way down to you to construct railways, to work in pine plantations, cutting firewood, all of those employment opportunities to lay the basis for economic activities in New Zealand. So what I say to you all, my relations, thanks and greetings, welcome, welcome.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWelcome into this endeavour that has been called difficult by many of the members of this House. But for the majority, they don\u2019t truly know the difficulty of the path that has been followed by you for many years. So I support the comments, who have arrived, you have been walking this path for a very long time, and you\u2019ve arrived at this, the first reading of this bill. Without a doubt, I support the statements of the Minister, the Hon Paul Goldsmith, and the desire to accelerate these proceedings so that the third reading can be successfully accomplished within this House so the bill may be enacted, and become a law enacted by the House of Parliament.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ESo welcome to my many relations. I kind of had a good laugh, if I\u2019m honest with you. I felt the tranquillity of the heart within this House, and the comments of some: \u201CThe thing, the Treaty of Waitangi, is a good thing; this thing, the collaboration between the Crown and M\u0101ori, is a good thing.\u201D But the ears of M\u0101ori society have heard in recent months that it\u2019s actually a bad thing. This co-governance that has been spoken about is a bad thing. Then it\u2019s seen within this bill, and it is then said, \u201COh, this is a good approach.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ESo I am happy that it is being enacted within this legislation. However, what I say to the members of this House, the saying among my people, of Ng\u0101puhi: what is on the inside is different to what is on the outside. Now, the gist of that phrase that\u2019s relevant today is, I\u2019ve felt the emotions of the heart of the members of this House. But we saw at the time of the general election, bro, it was lies that came out of their mouths. And it was said, \u201CThis thing, the collaboration of the Crown and M\u0101ori, is a bad thing.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EIt is an instance of this thing that we did, known as co-governance. Now, it is now seen as, \u201COh, it\u2019s a good thing within this bill.\u201D And so we acknowledge you, my relations. You have opportunities made available to you within the activities of Government agencies. Now, the Minister has spoken about those Government agencies, you have positions within the activities inside your own region, and that pleases me. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EIt has been achieved within the bill, and also the desire that it be duplicated nationwide. So I acknowledge all of you, and I say that we are still here to support that principal goal that you all have pursued. So I acknowledge you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWell, the House has spoken to us of those financial matters, and the desire to see the revitalisation of M\u0101ori identity amongst you, the M\u0101ori language\u2014all of those things. But what I would like to say to the members of this House is that the Government should not mistakenly believe, oh, the rugby ball has been passed to someone else, and they instead have responsibility for the great issues of the world. Don\u2019t leave it for the iwi; here is your portion, and that\u2019s enough. I say that Government activities are still here for the benefit of all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EAnd well, that\u2019s enough from me. I would like to see you all on the rest of the passage\u00A0of this bill. I acknowledge you. Have a good journey home. Thank you, Madam Speaker. Thanks to all of us.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022 data-id=\u00228275b4fe15274af293c536cd97792cee\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228275b4fe15274af293c536cd97792cee\u0022\u003ECARL BATES (National\u2014Whanganui):\u003C/span\u003E E ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 reo, e ng\u0101 iwi, rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. I just want to acknowledge the presence of those connected with Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua and their mahi and their work over many years to get to this moment today, to those both present and those who have passed, to enable this bill to come before the House, the 101st M\u0101ori settlement bill to be put before this House. As has been already acknowledged, things change quickly down here sometimes, and we acknowledge you making yourselves available to be here on such a significant day, and really just want to acknowledge and honour that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EI also would like to acknowledge and honour the work of the Ministers\u2014Minister Little, Minister Goldsmith\u2014in supporting the Crown\u2019s work to enable us to be here at this point today. I also would like to just acknowledge my connection to Whanganui and the shared awa that we live, learn, and grow beside.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EThe purpose of this bill is to seek to give effect to certain matters contained in the deed of settlement signed on 29 July 2023 by the Crown and by Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua. When it was signed in July last year, Minister Little acknowledged that you were amongst the first to submit claims to the Waitangi Tribunal 35 years ago, in the 1980s, and you have waited a long time for this day\u2014in my world, literally a lifetime. I can only imagine the pain and the heartache that you have gone through over the last three decades to get to this point that we\u2019re here today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s an absolute privilege to rise and speak last on this bill. The significance of the journey of this legislation through this House\u2014through our House, through your House\u2014is not lost on me this afternoon. Indeed, this evening, I will drive home to Whanganui and I will pass through Whangaehu, where your t\u016Bpuna signed Te Tiriti o Waitangi so many years ago.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EAt the p\u014Dwhiri earlier today, as we hongi-ed, one of your kaumatua said to me, \u201CA familiar face.\u201D As we k\u014Drero-ed afterwards, I discovered that his mokopuna plays T-ball and goes to school with my son. I share this to acknowledge our shared connections to the Whanganui awa, and because much of what has been said today is about looking to the future for Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua and, I hope, looking forward to the future for all the people connected to the Whanganui awa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EIn going through the bill, I noted several of the properties being returned to iwi for your governance and oversight include the Tangahoe scenic reserve and Ramanui Scenic Reserve, both located in the rohe I have the privilege of representing as the member of Parliament for Whanganui. I hope to have the opportunity to visit these scenic reserves with you at some stage in the future. It is a credit to mana whenua that public access, that recreational use, reserve status, and existing rights will be maintained through this bill, and I just want to honour and acknowledge you for that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EThe significance of what this means for Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua I am sure I\u00A0cannot express in words for you this afternoon in this House. My hope, though, is that the little mahi\u2014compared to what you have done and gone through\u2014that this House undertakes to ensure the passage of this bill will create a brighter future for you and for your mokopuna and that it creates a brighter and better foundation for our next generation to grow together, for your children\u2014like your Louie and my Angus. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EBill read a first time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u00224c126bb185be42c6ba675a3ca164e349\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224c126bb185be42c6ba675a3ca164e349\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Now, we\u2019ve just got one more technicality to work through. The question is, That Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua Claims Settlement Bill be considered by the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EBill referred to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u00226d2b6c322abc445dab78d708007ce234\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226d2b6c322abc445dab78d708007ce234\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ve been informed that there has been permission today for guitars to be taken into the gallery and for a waiata after this reading. Welcome. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EWaiata\u2014\u201CHe H\u014Dnore\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u0022b425dd74e55a406e85b7070167c685cc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b425dd74e55a406e85b7070167c685cc\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Kia ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b42b0aee7fca471cae71d7d6a4d49485\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022dcf8ddc4d1e44ff5beddf12979e7f802\u0022\u003ESecond Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u00228f79aed6c275410d93aaf0f60f30adcf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228f79aed6c275410d93aaf0f60f30adcf\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I present a legislative statement on the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c1834b08398f40abac9a323ac4946352\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That legislative statement is published under the authority of the House and can be found on the Parliament website. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a7f99ececf744e8b9b2b0d457112aa8b\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH\u003C/span\u003E: I move, That the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill be now read a second time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ETihei mauriora! Te Whare e t\u016B nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Te papa i waho nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Te mana whenua o t\u0113nei rohe, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Te hunga mate, haere, haere, haere. Haere ki te whenua o ng\u0101 t\u016Bpuna. Te hunga ora, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. Ka mihi ki ng\u0101 maunga k\u014Drero, ki ng\u0101 awa rangatira, ki te whenua taurikura o Ng\u0101ti Paoa, e ng\u0101 k\u0101wai rangatira, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E[The House that stands here, greetings. The land we are on, greetings, the protectors of this region greetings to you all, the deceased farewell. Farewell to the homeland of your ancestors. To the living, greetings to all of us. I acknowledge the fabled mountains, the noble rivers, and also to the cherished lands of Ng\u0101ti Paoa, dear esteemed leaders, salutations to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThis bill gives effect to the deed of settlement signed by Ng\u0101ti Paoa and the Crown in March 2021. The deed of settlement settles all the remaining historical Treaty of Waitangi claims of Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Ng\u0101ti Paoa are an iwi with an interest that includes Mahurangi, T\u0101maki-makau-rau, the Hauraki Plains, gulf islands, and parts of Waikato. The historical claims of Ng\u0101ti Paoa relate to the Crown\u2019s actions that led to the loss of life and devastation caused by hostilities, as well as by the operation and impact of the native land laws and continued Crown purchasing that left Ng\u0101ti Paoa virtually landless.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThe bill comprises five parts, including cultural and commercial redress and the Crown\u2019s apology. I look forward to describing the bill in greater detail at its third reading. We remember and pay tribute to the t\u016Bpuna and many generations of Ng\u0101ti Paoa who suffered from historical Crown acts and omissions and who are not here today to see those grievances redressed through this settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI acknowledge the many members of Ng\u0101ti Paoa who have passed away over the course of the settlement and for whom justice did not come soon enough. I also wish to acknowledge the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Iwi Trust as the post-settlement governance entity for Ng\u0101ti Paoa who have been entrusted with taking this settlement forward on behalf of the iwi to realise their aspirations for the future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EOn the Crown\u2019s side, I acknowledge the chief Crown negotiators, Michael Dreaver and the Hon Rick Barker. I also acknowledge my predecessors, the Hon Chris Finlayson and the Hon Andrew Little, for their significant contributions to this Treaty settlement. I thank the Crown agencies and local authorities for your support in progressing this settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThe bill was referred to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee on 21 June 2023. The committee received and considered 351 submissions on the bill and heard oral evidence from 25\u00A0submitters. I\u2019d like to extend my thanks to the committee for their work in the consideration of the bill. The committee recommended two main amendments to the bill as a result of submissions that relate to two Waitangi Tribunal claims, Wai 365 and Wai 968. Wai 365 is a historical claim currently listed to be settled in full through the bill. On review, the claim is listed in the Ng\u0101i Te Rangi and Ng\u0101 P\u014Dtiki deed of settlement as a claim to be settled in part. Accordingly, the committee recommended the bill be amended so Wai 365 is only settled in part in the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EA named Wai 968 claimant submitted in support of the bill but requested Wai 968 be removed and instead settled in full by the Ng\u0101ti Tamater\u0101 settlement. After consultation with affected parties, it was agreed that Wai 968 should be removed from this bill and be appropriately settled in full by the Ng\u0101ti Tamater\u0101 Treaty settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThe committee also recommended some minor and technical amendments to ensure consistency with other Hauraki iwi settlement bills. A large number of submissions were received on the transfer of the farm on Waiheke Island from the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Trust Board to the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Iwi Trust. This has been a point of contention amongst Ng\u0101ti Paoa descendants, resulting in various legal challenges and an attempt at mediation between the two entities. The committee does not propose any changes to the bill in relation to the Waiheke farm.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThe committee acknowledged the different strongly held views on this issue, but concluded that, on balance, the interests of Ng\u0101ti Paoa descendants are best served by the farm being vested in the post-settlement governance entity, the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Iwi Trust, alongside the other assets listed in this bill. The committee strongly encouraged the trustees involved to find a path forward together for the benefit of the people they are elected to serve. I support the committee\u2019s view on this.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI\u2019m satisfied with the committee\u2019s recommendation as they will ensure the redress addressed in the Ng\u0101ti Paoa deed of settlement can be properly implemented through the bill. This reading today is another important step in the settlement process before the third reading that will result in the full and final settlement of Ng\u0101ti Paoa\u2019s historical Treaty of Waitangi claims. I look forward to hosting Ng\u0101ti Paoa here for that occasion and to honour the steps the Crown has agreed to take towards reconciliation. I commend the bill to the House. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u002249d83497aacc47cdb362b480dda37c2a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002249d83497aacc47cdb362b480dda37c2a\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Ko te p\u0101tai kia whakaaetia te m\u014Dtini.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E[The question is that the motion be agreed to.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022 data-id=\u0022e2526e538c9345b5bc44dd3612f417f0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e2526e538c9345b5bc44dd3612f417f0\u0022\u003EHon PEENI HENARE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Tihe w\u0101 mauri ora. E te tuakana, koutou e ng\u0101 uri o Ng\u0101ti Paoa kua tae mai nei ahakoa te p\u0101nuitanga tuarua o t\u0113nei pire. E tika ana ko koutou k\u0113 t\u0113n\u0101 i k\u014Dkiri i te Kaupapa mai i t\u014Dna t\u012Bmatanga. Ae, me tae mai ki roto i t\u014Dna p\u0101nuitanga tuarua. K\u0101ore e kore ka hoki mai an\u014D hei te otinga ake o te p\u0101nuitanga tuatoru. N\u014D reira Ng\u0101ti Paoa, whakairihia mai ng\u0101 kete k\u014Drero ki runga o te t\u0101h\u016Bh\u016B o t\u014D t\u0101tou Whare hei akiaki, hei \u0101rahi nei i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero a ng\u0101 mema o te Whare P\u0101remata, e te tuakana. Koutou o te w\u0101 k\u0101inga ki roto i a T\u0101maki Makaurau, nau mai haere mai, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Ka tahuri atu ahau ki te reo p\u0101keh\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E[Tis the breath of life. Dear brother, you and the people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa who are here present, despite it being the second reading of this bill, you have worked on this matter since its inception. And you are here during its second reading. No doubt you will return for the third reading. So then, Ng\u0101ti Paoa, bring forth your baskets of knowledge here to the ridgepole of our House, to support and assist the speeches made by the parliamentary members of this House. Dear brother, you and your people of T\u0101maki Makaurau, I\u00A0welcome you all here. I will speak now in English.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThank you, Madam Speaker, for this opportunity, and I acknowledge the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations for his contributions, and I think, too, a good pr\u00E9cis about some of the challenges that have come through this particular settlement. It\u2019s well known that in T\u0101maki-makau-rau and right across T\u0101maki-makau-rau and further boundaries that extend to the limits of T\u0101maki-makau-rau, settlements are particularly difficult because of overlapping interests. The fact that many tribes from right across the country either found home there after colonial settlement or called it home before colonial settlement is the matter for debate, the matter for whakapapa, and the matter for many discussions held between iwi, which is complicated even further when iwi present their case to the Crown in what can only be regarded, and has been explained many times in this House, as a very tricky Treaty settlement process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge Ng\u0101ti Paoa. I want to, like the Minister, acknowledge those officers and those of the iwi who sat down and worked very hard\u2014over recent years, in particular\u2014to make sure that this settlement has arrived to the space where it is now. Quite often, you receive a large number of submissions on settlements. This particular settlement received significantly more than one might expect from other settlements\u2014for example, this settlement that we just had with our wh\u0101nau from Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua. I\u2019m sure there will be a number of\u2014what do you call it?\u2014representations made to the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. But this one in particular was a challenge and the Minister\u2019s already described what some of those challenges were. I\u2019m glad that the committee made the recommendations that they did, and Ng\u0101ti Paoa will continue to make sure that the Crown holds up their end of the bargain, and especially considering the work that Ng\u0101ti Paoa did to ensure that this particular bill could continue to progress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EMadam Speaker, I started in this House alongside yourself in 2014, and one of my first speeches in the House was on the first reading of the original agreement that was entered into by the Hon Christopher Finlayson, and it was contentious at the time. If I recall correctly\u2014call it youthful naivety\u2014I was stood down, or sat down, in that particular contribution, which is quite rare on these occasions when we consider Treaty bills. But such was the difficulty of the Ng\u0101ti Paoa settlement bill. So I\u2019m really proud, actually, as the former member of T\u0101maki Makaurau who sat and watched the progression of this bill to where we are today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThere is still more work to be done, if I consider the overlapping interests across T\u0101maki-makau-rau. The bill sets out some of the mechanisms that Ng\u0101ti Paoa and other iwi can use\u00A0to engage with local authority and central governmental authority. One of the challenging things that I know iwi, in particular, engage in, but can often be usurped through courts, is\u00A0a more tikanga-based approach to the way that iwi work with each other in T\u0101maki-makau-rau. When we talk about overlapping interests, it isn\u2019t the first desire of iwi\u00A0to go to the\u00A0court to settle it. The first desire of iwi is to sit down as relatives, as neighbours, acknowledging a shared whakapapa and a shared history\u2014to be able to avoid the expensive\u00A0costs of court and the long-winded nature of the court process. So I\u2019d like to still encourage that, as T\u0101maki-makau-rau looks to settle others that are still in the region of T\u0101maki-makau-rau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThe bill here describes well the area that Ng\u0101ti Paoa call home. It\u2019s as far north as Mahurangi or M\u0101huhu-ki-te-rangi\u2014for those of you who don\u2019t know, further north of\u00A0Auckland\u2014of course, extending out into the Hauraki, and, in particular, into the home of Ng\u0101ti Paoa at Maungarei and at Mokoia, which I think is really important. And why\u00A0I mention that\u2014and my whanaunga up here will know the story well; of course, as a descendant of Ng\u0101puhi\u2014is that Ng\u0101puhi played its role as it came into\u00A0T\u0101maki-makau-rau in some of the tricky dynamics that exist today between the iwi, whether it\u2019s the Waikato to the southern boundary or Ng\u0101ti Wh\u0101tua to the northern boundary, and the role that Ng\u0101puhi played. And I want to acknowledge, in particular,\u00A0what took place on Mokoia\u2014and my tu\u0101kana knows the story well about Ng\u0101puhi\u2019s role at that particular battle.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI know this is the second reading and I support the words of Minister Goldsmith when we say we want to continue to push this particular kaupapa along. But I thought it an opportunity\u2014at least from the Labour Party\u2014through a 10-minute call, to be able to just extend our contribution a little bit more, with the hope to fulfil the expectations of Ng\u0101ti Paoa that this House deliberates on these particular pieces of legislation with a very keen eye to getting it right. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ESo, on that note, I won\u2019t carry on any further other than to say e te tuakana, koutou o Ng\u0101ti Paoa kua tae mai nei. Ko te manako nui kia pai ai t\u014D koutou hokinga atu ki te w\u0101 k\u0101inga kia tutataki an\u014D t\u0101ua ki raro i te maru o m\u0101unga Rei \u0101 t\u014Dna w\u0101. Me te hiahia kia haere tonu t\u0113nei Kaupapa. He aha ai? Hei oranga m\u014D t\u014D koutou iwi, m\u014D t\u014D t\u0101ua iwi. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E[Dear brother, and the people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa who have arrived here, I wish you a safe return to your home until we see each other again under the shade of the lofty Rei mountain. My wish is that this bill will push on forward. Why? To bring welfare to your people, to our people. Thank you, thank you, kia ora everyone.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022 data-id=\u0022b99e08331b9146ba8f4f1df5b5ded038\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b99e08331b9146ba8f4f1df5b5ded038\u0022\u003EH\u016AHANA LYNDON (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora, Madam Speaker. E mihi atu ana au ki taku matua Hauauru me taku tuakana Herearoha hei kanohi m\u014D taku iwi o Ng\u0101ti Paoa ki roto i te whare i t\u0113nei rangi m\u014D t\u0113nei te p\u0101nuitanga tuarua o te pire whakataunga m\u014D te iwi o Ng\u0101ti Paoa n\u014D reira ka mihi atu ki a r\u0101ua, ki a t\u0101tou katoa. He uri ahau o Patuone. Patuone i moe i a Riria Takarangi. E takoto ana ki roto i a Haukapua ki runga Takarangi. Taku taha o Ng\u0101puhi. Ng\u0101 herenga whakapapa kei waenganui i a Ng\u0101puhi me Ng\u0101ti Paoa. An\u014D ka whakaaro ahau ki taku taha o Ng\u0101ti Wai ki roto o Mahurangi, ki runga i a Aotea, \u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 herenga whakapapa an\u014D ki taku iwi o Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Huru ki Ng\u0101ti Rongo i roto o Mahurangi an\u014D. \u0112r\u0101 o ng\u0101 whakapapa, \u0113r\u0101 o ng\u0101 k\u014Drero tukuiho ka mihi atu. Ki runga i ng\u0101 tini karanga maha ki waenganui i a t\u0101tou, ki runga i te here aroha, ki runga i te ng\u0101kau tapatahi m\u014D t\u0113nei te whakataunga kereme o te iwi o Ng\u0101ti Paoa. E mihi atu nei, e mihi atu nei. T\u0113nei iwi o Ng\u0101ti Paoa he iwi tere waka. E ai ki te k\u014Drero mai Matakana ki Matakana. Me mau ahau i taku p\u014Dtae o Hauraki, he uri t\u0113nei n\u014D Ng\u0101ti Whanaunga. N\u014D reira e tika ana a Hauraki e mihi atu ki a Hauraki. Me whakaaro an\u014D ki te waitohutanga o te Tiriti o Waitangi ki runga i te Karaka i reira aku t\u016Bpuna o Ng\u0101ti Wai i waitohu i te Tiriti o Waitangi taha o Ng\u0101ti Paoa t\u016Bpuna. N\u014D reira ka mihi. Me huri ahau ki roto i te reo p\u0101keh\u0101 kia kuhu katoa aku hoa o t\u0113nei Whare P\u0101remata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E[I would like to acknowledge my uncle Hauauru and my sister Herearoha representing our people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa in the House today for this second reading of the settlement bill for Ng\u0101ti Paoa, I acknowledge them both, and us all. I am a descendant of Patuone. Patuone slept with Riria Takarangi. In the resting place at Haukapua on Takarangi. My connections to Ng\u0101puhi. My connections between Ng\u0101puhi and Ng\u0101ti Paoa. I also like to mention my connections to Ng\u0101ti Wai of Mahurangi, on Aotea, those genealogical links and history. I acknowledge the many kin amongst us, together with unity, together with foresight for this settlement claim of Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Salutations. Ng\u0101ti Paoa are a seafaring people. As the saying goes, Matakana to Matakana. I shall wear my Hauraki hat, a descendant of Ng\u0101ti Whanaunga. And so that is right, Hauraki acknowledges Hauraki. I need to mention as well the singing of the Tiriti o Waitangi at Karaka, in which my ancestors of Ng\u0101ti Wai signed Te Tiriti o Waitangi alongside the Ng\u0101ti Paoa people. And so salutations. I shall now speak in English so that my colleagues of the Parliament can understand.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EI stand on behalf of te R\u014Dp\u016B K\u0101k\u0101riki and share sentiments of support for this, the second reading of the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill. As I shared in my initial mihi, as an uri of Ng\u0101puhi, as an uri of Ng\u0101tiwai, Ng\u0101ti Rongo, and Mahurangi, and also as an uri of Ngaati Whanaunga, I stand in tautoko.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EI want to reflect on loss and the losses for Ng\u0101ti Paoa over many generations, and think about T\u0101maki-makau-rau and the thoroughfare. I shared that Ng\u0101ti Paoa are a seafaring people. They were an iwi whai rawa [a wealthy tribe] and they were rich with abundance in T\u0101maki and across their tribal rohe. In 1820, a missionary by the name of Butler visited Mokoia on the T\u0101maki inlet\u2014and I quote\u2014\u201CTheir houses are superior to most I\u2019ve met with. Their stores were full of potatoes containing [many] thousands of baskets and they had [many] very fine hogs.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003ENow, Butler, who must have climbed Maungarei\u2014Mount Wellington\u2014shared that he saw 20 villages in the valley below, and with a single glance beheld the greatest portion of cultivated land he had ever met in one place in New Zealand. He iwi whai rawa a Ng\u0101ti Paoa [Ng\u0101ti Paoa are a wealthy people] and that\u2019s where the loss is, because, as we have heard from the Waitangi Tribunal, the tribes of Hauraki were left virtually landless due to the acts and omissions of the Crown, retaining only 2.6 percent of their tribal estate in 2024. The hara sits on te K\u0101wanatanga, who have made the people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa mai Matakana ki Matakana\u2014virtually landless\u2014within their own tribal territories. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EThe economic loss, the opportunity for Ng\u0101ti Paoa to maintain what they had at Mokoia across their tribal territories, across the islands was lost because the Crown failed to protect them, to retain sufficient lands for their people to thrive and grow. The Crown failed to protect them from the rapid alienation, Crown purchases, Native Land Court, public works takings\u2014you name it, Ng\u0101ti Paoa suffered it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EThese are what this settlement is trying to provide, a tiny iti p\u012Bhi\u2014a small piece\u2014of\u00A0redress for the people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa. N\u014D reira e tangi tonu ana taku ng\u0101kau ki taku\u00A0iwi\u00A0o\u00A0Ng\u0101ti Paoa, p\u0113r\u0101 i a Ng\u0101ti Hei. \u0112nei iwi o t\u0101tou Parehauraki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E[And so the heart is still in mourning for my people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa, likewise with Ng\u0101ti Hei. These people of ours of Parehauraki.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003ESo I stand here with a heavy heart as I support this legislation but tangi for the people of Hauraki, for today I wear my Hauraki hat. I stand in my Haurakitanga and mihi to the people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EThe settlement package of rua tekau m\u0101 toru me te h\u0101whe miriona t\u0101ra [$23.5\u00A0million] and 12 sites vested in the iwi\u2014is that enough? I question it: 184 years since the signing of Te Tiriti o Waitangi and they get $23.5 million and 12 properties vested in the iwi. Is that enough? Is this a process that is fair? No\u2014k\u0101hore\u2014it is not. As we have heard, this is about building a pathway to thrive and look to build an asset base, but it\u2019s 184 years - plus of loss for te iwi o Ng\u0101ti Paoa, and so I tangi for that. Co-governance, co-management of sites\u2014that should be a right, and these sites should be in the name of Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EM\u0101 r\u0101tou e tohutohu me p\u0113hea r\u0101tou e whakahaere i \u0113nei whenua taurikura \u014D r\u0101tou. N\u014D reira e mihi ana ki a koe, e Herearoha me t\u014D whakahaere i t\u014D t\u0101tou iwi. Me koe an\u014D hoki e te matua, e te Rangatira, Hauauru i \u0101rahi i te iwi ki roto i t\u0113nei whakataunga. Me taku mihi an\u014D ki a M\u014Drehu Wilson kua ngaro atu nei. E mihi ana ki a ia, ng\u0101 pokowhiwhi nui o t\u0113r\u0101 tangata e kawe nei i te taimahatanga o te iwi o Ng\u0101ti Paoa kia tutuki i te whakataunga kereme o t\u0113nei iwi o t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E[Let them decide for themselves how they manage their regional lands. And so I acknowledge you, Herearoha, and your management of our people. And you as well, sir, Hauauru who lead the people in this settlement. I also acknowledge our departed M\u014Drehu Wilson. I acknowledge him and his huge shoulders to carry the responsibilities of our people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa to succeed in these settlement claims for our people.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EMay I mihi to Ng\u0101ti Paoa in the good faith that Ng\u0101ti Paoa iwi has stood in the claims process, because, for my whakapapa, we have overlapping interests and we have had disputes, but the Hauraki Collective aside, and that settlement, this is about Ng\u0101ti Paoa and Ng\u0101ti Paoa\u2019s leadership that came to the t\u0113pu. May I reflect, on behalf\u00A0of my iwi of Ng\u0101tiwai, and the overlapping interests and the way with which the hui, through tikanga M\u0101ori, we came together as peoples, recognising our whakapapa connections but also our differences, as we are different, but we are whanaunga. Through those meetings on our marae in Ng\u0101tiwai and then both in the tribal territories\u00A0of Ng\u0101ti Paoa, agreements were made, and those agreements were based on a tikanga-led process. Waiho te K\u0101wanatanga ki waho. [Put the Government aside.] Leave the Crown out and let us settle it as whanaunga. I celebrate the way with which Ng\u0101ti Paoa leadership came into those meetings. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EAhau nei n\u0101 [personally], I\u2019m just an uri. I was watching on the outside. I\u2019m a kaitautoko. But as kaum\u0101tua leadership came to bring our people together, agreements were made, so I mihi to the leadership of Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Three years ago, since the signing of the agreement at Wharekawa Marae in Kaiaua, I remember when my elders of Ng\u0101tiwai went to support Ng\u0101ti Paoa on that very special day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003ESo these settlements are not about justice for Ng\u0101ti Paoa, because the Crown settlement policy does not provide the pathway for full reparations for loss of Ng\u0101ti Paoa iwi and te Iwi M\u0101ori, but what it does provide is an opportunity for a commencement of growth, knowing the journey of Ng\u0101ti Paoa and the tribes of Hauraki, and acknowledging Ng\u0101ti Hei, who came through this House earlier this week, and the support of the iwi, ahakoa ng\u0101 piki me ng\u0101 heke [despite the ups and downs.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EThrough the claims and the negotiations process, as a mokopuna of Hauraki, on\u00A0behalf of te R\u014Dp\u016B K\u0101k\u0101riki, we support the second reading of the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims\u00A0Settlement Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Paoa ki uta, Ng\u0101ti Paoa ki tai, Ng\u0101ti Paoa tua o te pae o Matariki. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou t\u0113n\u0101 koutou kia ora t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E[Ng\u0101ti Paoa inland, Ng\u0101ti Paoa onshore, Ng\u0101ti Paoa beyond the veil of Matariki. Thank you, thank you, thank you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022 data-id=\u002212bacc6e4e50484fb091dd0e7db4f8e0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002212bacc6e4e50484fb091dd0e7db4f8e0\u0022\u003ELAURA TRASK (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora. I\u2019d like to extend a mihi from the ACT Party to the iwi, the hap\u016B, the wh\u0101nau who join us today and the ancestors you have brought with you. We\u2019re glad to be able to support this historic Treaty settlement. The settlement contains acknowledgment of Crown breaches of Te Tiriti o Waitangi, the Treaty of Waitangi, and its principles, including the confiscation of land by the Crown, the impact and operation of native lands and laws, and Crown purchasing that left Ng\u0101ti Paoa virtually landless and undermined their economic, social, and cultural development.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003EIn October 1863, HMS Miranda shelled the Ng\u0101ti Paoa village P\u016Bkorokoro. Later that year, in December, the Crown militia made a surprise attack on a group of 40 to 50 M\u0101ori, which included Ng\u0101ti Paoa ancestors. Ng\u0101ti Paoa has constantly been forced to choose sides and face huge amounts of land confiscation and alienation. Their lands were confiscated, their culture suppressed, and their economic prospects stifled. No land had been returned to Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003EToday, we get to hear the second reading of this historic bill and celebrate the return of\u00A012\u00A0sites of cultural significance and financial and commercial redress valued at $23.5\u00A0million, along with a wide range of other commercial, cultural, and relationship items. We hope that this redress allows the nearly 5,000 members of Ng\u0101ti Paoa to come together, support each other, and heal from the harm acknowledged in this bill today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003ELet us honour the iwi, their resilience, their stories, and their aspirations. May this settlement pave the way for healing, unity, and a brighter future. Let us remember that\u00A0reconciliation is not a single act but an ongoing commitment. We are glad to see\u00A0this bill moved through the House. We understand it has taken far too long for this\u00A0reconciliation to take place. ACT is proud to support this bill. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022 data-id=\u0022f5d1ef72ce7a4fe2ae62cdc307d3a19a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f5d1ef72ce7a4fe2ae62cdc307d3a19a\u0022\u003EJENNY MARCROFT (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E E te P\u012Bka, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. E t\u016B ana ahau he uri n\u014D Te Tai Tokerau ki te mihi atu ki ng\u0101 uri o Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Ka nui aku mihi maioha ki a koutou Ng\u0101ti Paoa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Ka mihi ahau hoki ki ng\u0101 rangatira o Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Ko Morehu Wilson, moe mai, moe mai, moe mai r\u0101 e te rangatira. Hau\u0101uru R\u0101wiri, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Ka mihi ahau ki a t\u0101tou kua tae mai ki te tautoko te kaupapa o te rangi nei. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E[Madam Speaker, greetings to you, greetings to us all. I stand as a descendant of the Northland nation to acknowledge you, the descendants of Ng\u0101ti Paoa. I\u2019d like to express my grand salutations to you, Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Thank you, thank you, thank you all. I also acknowledge the esteemed leaders of Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Morehu Wilson, farewell, farewell, farewell, dear leader. Hau\u0101uru R\u0101wiri, greetings to you, sir. I\u2019d like to acknowledge us all who have arrived here today in support of this matter. Thank you, thank you, thank you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EIt is a privilege and a humbling experience to ever be involved in this House and\u00A0speaking to claims settlement bills, and this is no different\u2014the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill. New Zealand First stands in support of the bill and in support\u00A0of Ng\u0101ti\u00A0Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EI began my mihi, mentioning Hau\u0101uru Rawiri and also Morehu Wilson. Morehu was the historian for Ng\u0101ti Paoa who passed away two years ago, and I feel, as this is the first opportunity I have spoken to this bill, to acknowledge him and also the fact that he was a St Stephen\u2019s old boy. So my colleague the Hon Shane Jones, also a St Stephen\u2019s old boy, wanted me to acknowledge that as well. Also, I must acknowledge all of the people who turned out for Paoa over the many, many, many years\u2014decades, in fact\u2014over a very difficult period over those years; decades trying to get back on your feet. This is a milestone, another step forward towards being back on your feet.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EBut now it\u2019s really important so that the young people of Paoa know who they are, and this is a step in terms of their history moving forward. The aspiration that the next generations\u2014that the young people\u2014will be healthy and will be wealthy so that they have full-spectrum health and wealth as it will come and flow once the settlement process is concluded.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to acknowledge the Ministers, and there have been three of them who have\u00A0shepherded this bill. It started off with the Hon Christopher Finlayson, then through to the Hon Andrew Little, and now sits with the Minister the Hon Paul Goldsmith. So,\u00A0hopefully, we can bring this in for a landing very soon\u2014you\u2019ve waited\u00A0far too long. I\u2019d just like to mention the Hon Peeni Henare, who mentioned the overlapping interests in T\u0101maki-makau-rau. That is something that all of us who live in Auckland, in T\u0101maki, are aware of. Through research and learning more about Ng\u0101ti Paoa, I was able to see more of that picture in in terms of how difficult it has been to get to this stage in the House today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EAcknowledging the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and the work that you have done considering submissions from 351 interested groups and individuals, and you heard oral evidence from 25 submitters. In a little moment, I will come and swing around to a couple of those submissions which I feel are really important and so I want to acknowledge them in the House shortly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Paoa are mana moana people. I have been told that, I have seen it, I believe it, and I\u00A0really want the House to understand what that means. I can give you an example today of what mana moana people mean. We have this invasive seaweed called Caulerpa, which is inhabiting and strangling the seabed in the Hauraki Gulf. Ng\u0101ti Paoa took it upon themselves to reach out. They found an incredibly unique way to try and smother that nasty little critter\u2014that nasty pest\u2014and so, with the help of Bremworth, have rolled out pure wool mats on to the seabed to suffocate. That is really something which could end up being a lifesaver for the Hauraki Gulf, so I\u2019d like to applaud all of your people who\u2019ve been involved in that. That, in fact, could be something that we could take internationally, and you have been part of that. That is something absolutely worthwhile, looking forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EMahurangi is one of your areas. I\u2019m currently a resident and have been for the last 20-odd years in Matakana. Because I grew up in Rotorua, whenever I say I\u2019m from Matakana, they go, \u201COh, Matakana Island.\u201D No! Matakana ki Matakana. So it\u2019s wonderful to also have that connection with you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EWhen I look at some of the detail of the bill\u2014and I won\u2019t really go into too much because a lot of that has been traversed already\u2014what I would like to speak to is: I\u2019ve worked in a council in Auckland, and, during my time there, the Ng\u0101ti Paoa settlement was in select committee and the council was obviously involved with some of this land which has been returned to Ng\u0101ti Paoa. So they\u2019ve made some submissions which I\u2019d like to acknowledge\u2014the council\u2014and I hope that they have been a willing partner in sharing in the process of acknowledging the grievances and then the redress that is part of this Treaty settlement. So, well done, Auckland Council.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EI did really enjoy my time that I was in the Auckland Council, working with John Hutton and also with the M\u0101ori team which was led by Herewini Te Koha. They were a great team and also I got to know fairly well one of the councillors Corinne Leone\u2014one of Ng\u0101ti Paoa\u2019s rising stars\u2014and she also submitted on the bill. She wanted to tautoko the leadership of Ng\u0101ti Paoa Iwi Trust, and that, basically, was in their hands to speak on behalf of all of the people to support the bill for the iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EI have a very dear friend from broadcasting who\u2019s also Ng\u0101ti Paoa: Mihingarangi Forbes, who I absolutely respect and admire.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002280281f258c0147509ebe5cab415c2cc0\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Good lady.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f8f8e4ffa8f54fe7b97c4ab16979c8a0\u0022\u003EJENNY MARCROFT\u003C/span\u003E: She is a very good lady, absolutely. She wanted me to include, as part of my submission, something which she has had a lot of mamae\u2014it\u2019s been part of her journey\u2014and that is around the reo. Mihi\u2019s great-grandmother Paerau Anaru Te Whet\u016B died at age 48 from heart disease caused by childhood rheumatic fever. Her daughter, who\u2019s Mihi\u2019s grandmother, Nora Forbes, died at 58.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003ENow, Nora was the last native speaker of te reo in Mihi\u2019s line. Her son, Mihi\u2019s father, is bereft of his language. None of his eight siblings speak their native tongue. Of the 20\u00A0grandchildren, just two of them speak te reo M\u0101ori, and Mihi is one of them. Te reo M\u0101ori has enriched her life; it has given her access to her whakapapa, to Ng\u0101ti Paoa history; and with te reo M\u0101ori, she\u2019s able to stand proudly in T\u0101maki-makau-rau as tangata whenua. So I mihi to you: ng\u0101 mihi. Now, the trauma of loss of language is something that I know from my wh\u0101nau, and this is part of the journey of healing which comes through these Treaty settlement bills. We can put a stake in the ground. We can say, \u201CThat was then; this is now.\u201D, and we can move forward collectively, as a people, together.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EFinally, in concluding part of Mihingarangi\u2019s story, her uncles now sit in the second row while the next generation holds the paepae. The beautiful voices of her aunties are not heard at the gate. They know how to host, obviously\u2014they were raised to welcome, but not on the marae. Their karanga is silent. So I am hopeful that it is Mihingarangi\u2019s voice that fills that space and of her children that will come after her.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003ESo it\u2019s time Paoa begins to heal; to revive Ng\u0101ti Paoa reo, their customs, tikanga specific to their hap\u016B. In conclusion, in the House today, as Parliament puts its politics to the side\u2014which is quite a relief from time to time\u2014once again, we\u2019re able to be a living part of an example to the world of how to resolve historical grievances.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003ESo, with the second reading of the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill, today marks that\u00A0next step forward towards the aspirations of the people of Paoa: to reaffirm the prosperity\u00A0and holistic wellbeing of their people. It\u2019s an honour\u2014it is a privilege\u2014to bring the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill on its second reading in for a landing. I commend this bill to the House. No reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u0022f54117c5b6d74bf5a5b76c059fba1687\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f54117c5b6d74bf5a5b76c059fba1687\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you. Just before I call the next speaker, I understand for purposes of broadcasting in the House that the Speaker always has the microphone and I didn\u2019t want to interrupt the last speaker. But when we have specific guests in the gallery, I\u2019m not sure that members understand how much their voices carry around the House\u2014certainly comes up here. So could we just keep conversations to a bit of a minimum around the House, because I\u2019m sure it just isn\u2019t helpful in the House. Thank you. This is a split call, and I now call Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022 data-id=\u0022aef7961cfe524c248ee1ae4d0c073579\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000436\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022aef7961cfe524c248ee1ae4d0c073579\u0022\u003EHANA-RAWHITI MAIPI-CLARKE (Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori\u2014Hauraki-Waikato): \u003C/span\u003ET\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koe e te P\u012Bka, otir\u0101 t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 t\u0101tou e te Whare. Tuatahi ake e tuku ana i te reo karere ki a koe, Jenny, i t\u014D k\u014Drero reo reka i ng\u0101 karere o Mihing\u0101rangi me t\u014Dna wh\u0101nau. He k\u014Drero huhua i p\u0101 ki te ng\u0101kau, otir\u0101 he hononga t\u014Dku ki t\u0101na tam\u0101hine, ar\u0101 ki a Te Ahipourewa. N\u014D reira ka nui te mihi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000437\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EHoturoa, Hotuope, Hotumatap\u016B, Hotu \u0101rahi i te waka i Pikopiko-i-whiti-nui, kia m\u0101takitaki ki uta, kia m\u0101taratara ki tai. Ng\u0101toroirangi kei te ihu o te waka.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000438\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003ET\u0113n\u0101 te tira ka t\u016B, ko te tira n\u0101 T\u016Brora, n\u0101 Rereahi, n\u0101 Korehe, n\u0101 T\u016Brongo. T\u0113n\u0101 te tira, te tira oti ana, tira ka t\u016B. T\u0113n\u0101 toetoe n\u0101 Haka, n\u0101 Hau\u0101. Tira ka t\u016B, t\u0113n\u0101 oti.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000439\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003ETen\u0101 te tira ka t\u016B, ko te tira n\u0101 T\u016Brora, n\u0101 Rereahi, n\u0101 Korehe, n\u0101 T\u016Brongo. T\u0113n\u0101 te tira, te tira oti ana, tira ka t\u016B. T\u0113n\u0101 toetoe n\u0101 Haka, n\u0101 Hau\u0101. Tira ka t\u016B, t\u0113n\u0101 oti.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000440\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EKo Kohukohunui te maunga, ko Piako te awa, ko T\u012Bkapa te moana, ko Te Haup\u0101 te\u00A0tangata.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000441\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EE ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 reo, e ng\u0101 k\u0101rangarangatanga maha, nei noa te reo whakamiha ki a koutou kua karapinepine mai i roto i t\u0113nei Whare i te rangi nei. In\u0101 te h\u014Dnore nui m\u014Dku ki te t\u016B ki te waha i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero m\u0101 Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori m\u014D t\u0113nei pire.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Paoa ki uta, Ng\u0101ti Paoa ki tai, Ng\u0101ti Paoa ki tua o te pae o Matariki. Ko ng\u0101 uri o ng\u0101 waka o Tainui waka, o Te Arawa. Kei aku whanaunga o Paoa, ko te uri o Ng\u0101ti Mahuta t\u0113nei, Ng\u0101ti Mahuta Takaroa e mihi atu ki a koutou. Kei aku parepare, Pare Hauraki, Pare Waikato, ko Kotuiti te waka i whakakotahi i a t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000443\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EAnei te mema o Hauraki-Waikato, te kaitiaki e tautoko ana i t\u0101 koutou haere ki runga i te moana t\u012Btoki o ng\u0101 whakatau whenua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000444\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Madam Speaker, indeed greetings to us all in this House. First, I\u2019d like to offer a few words to you, Jenny, for the beautiful words in the messages of Mihingarangi and her family. There were many statements that touched the heart, and indeed I have a connection to her daughter, to Te Ahipourewa. So, many thanks.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000445\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EHoturoa, Hotuope, Hotumatap\u016B, Hotu that lead the vessel from Pikopiko-i-whiti-nui, to be seen from shore, and to feel the cold at sea. Ng\u0101toroirangi stood at the prow of the\u00A0canoe.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000446\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EThat is the assembly that stands, the assembly affiliated to T\u016Brora, to Rereahi, to Korehe and to T\u016Brongo. That is the assembly that stands, the assembly that is complete, the assembly that stands. That is the dune grass of Haka and Hau\u0101, the assembly that stands, that is complete.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000447\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EKohukohunui is the ancestral mountain, Piako is the river, T\u012Bkapa is the sea harbour, Te Haup\u0101 is the leader.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000448\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003ETo the authorities, the representatives, the relatives, and your diverse backgrounds, this is the voice of welcome to you who have gathered here inside this House today. It is a great honour for me to stand and open the speeches for The M\u0101ori Party about this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000449\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Paoa inland, Ng\u0101ti Paoa at sea, Ng\u0101ti Paoa beyond the frontier of Matariki. The descendants of the waka of Tainui, of Te Arawa. To my relations of Paoa, here is a descendant of Ng\u0101ti Mahuta, Ng\u0101ti Mahuta Takaroa that greets you. To my defenders, on Hauraki the Coromandel Peninsula, in the Waikato Basin, Kotuiti is the waka that unites us.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EHere stands the member for Hauraki-Waikato, the custodian that supports your journey on the ocean bordered by t\u012Btoki trees, the ocean of land settlement.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EAs a kaitiaki of Hauraki-Waikato, it is my absolute privilege to k\u014Drero on the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill. I would also like to acknowledge the three previous settlements that have come through the House this week: Taranaki maunga, Ng\u0101ti Hei, and Te Korowai o Wainui\u0101rua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003ET\u0113n\u0101 koutou T\u012Bkapa moana, koutou e noho ana ki T\u0101huna, ki Wait\u012B.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003E[Greetings to you, T\u012Bkapa sea inlet, you who reside at T\u0101huna and Wait\u012B.]\u00A0\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EAs I\u2019ve said earlier in the week, I have absolutely been dreading when it would come time for me to speak to settlement claims. Why? Because it is one of the most heartbreaking and sensitive issues we face as mokopuna of raupatu. Being a descendant of raupatu doesn\u2019t mean just giving a five-minute speech; it is weaved and entrenched in our DNA. We sing about it. We cry about it. We haka about it. We are about it 24/7.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000455\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EI can just imagine the many tears, sweat, and blood it has taken for Ng\u0101ti Paoa to get to this point. I want to acknowledge how hard the Treaty settlement process can be. It is so exhausting, that people die to get settlements across the line. I understand how challenging and difficult the Treaty process can be. The Treaty process in itself is actually a breach of Te Tiriti o Waitangi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000456\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EWhen I mean I understand it, I truly mean I understand it. I have whakapapa to my grandfather, who, a long time ago, didn\u2019t support Treaty settlements, alongside our rangatira Eva Rickard\u2014and then, on my mum\u2019s side of Ng\u0101puhi, had wh\u0101nau like Haydn Solomon, who worked with the key negotiators in the settlement. So, in the words of our esteemed tohunga P\u0101p\u0101 Rereata M\u0101kiha, I agree 100 percent with both sides. Now, that\u2019s even more so, because I\u2019m Tainui, Waikato, and Ng\u0101puhi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EHowever, in the wise words of Moana Jackson, treaties are not settled; they are honoured. Treaty settlements are not full and final; they are just the beginning for open doors for mokopuna like myself to come through. Te Tiriti is a document that is a foundation of a living, evolving relationship between tangata whenua and the Crown. Both parties of Te Tiriti must continually strive to meet those obligations it sets out and implements in the three articles, in everything we do. Te Tiriti settlements, they are just the beginning. They stand to honour the mamae, loss, and grievances. They are the stepping stones towards moving into an Aotearoa Hau for future generations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira kei aku whanaunga, kei Ng\u0101ti Paoa, t\u0113nei te reo mihi o Ng\u0101ti Mahuta, o Ng\u0101ti Wh\u0101wh\u0101kia, Ng\u0101ti Mahuta Takaroa e mihi kau atu ana ki a koutou katoa. T\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 t\u0101tou e te Whare.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003E[And so, my relatives, Ng\u0101ti Paoa, this is the voice of greeting of Ng\u0101ti Mahuta, Ng\u0101ti Wh\u0101wh\u0101kia and Ng\u0101ti Mahuta Takaroa that acknowledges you all. Greetings to all of us in this House.]\u00A0\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022 data-id=\u0022eb44505c77be4c72a16d1940acc0d74d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022eb44505c77be4c72a16d1940acc0d74d\u0022\u003ESTEVE ABEL (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. I stand to speak in support of\u00A0the Ng\u0101ti Paoa settlement and to tautoko what has been said by members across the\u00A0House. Here, there are so many parts you can read in these deeds that articulate the unrelenting winds and seas of bad that were done to Ng\u0101ti Paoa: the confiscations, the raupatu, the wars, the taking of land, the acquisition of land by hook or by crook. The land was lost, drained, stripped bare. Even the rivers changed course. Iwi members were killed during the Crown invasion of Waikato in 1863. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Paoa had interests in the vast swathes of land confiscated by the Crown in the following years. By 1865, the Crown introduced new laws creating individual title over iwi land. Most of the land was sold or taken under the Public Works Act by the end of the 20th century. The Crown drained and developed the Hauraki wetlands, altering the course of the Waihou and the Piako rivers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000462\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003EI have a particular reference to what happened in Hauraki, because it was up the Waihou River that Joseph Banks and James Cook took a longboat when they first arrived to these lands. Banks, being a botanist, took a particular interest in the magnificent trees that stood on the Hauraki Plains and the kahikatea\u2014\u201Cng\u0101 uruora\u201D, as Geoff Park describes it in his book\u2014was a source of food and nourishment for the iwi on the plains, who managed the plains for access of food as well as for gardens and production of food. Those magnificent kahikatea trees were so straight and huge with their buttressed roots that for the men of the British navy, their eyes opened wide, because they saw an opportunity to refurnish that navy with timber for shipbuilding.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000463\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003EIt turned out the kahikatea was not good for shipbuilding\u2014although kauri was, and other of the native trees\u2014and most of that kahikatea forest was burnt. What was left was destroyed in the draining of the Hauraki Plains, and then what was still left was cut down and turned into butter boxes for our export dairy industry at the beginning of the 20th century, because kahikatea puts no aroma or taint into the butter. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000464\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003EWhat little was left of those magnificent forests was logged indiscriminately up until, really, the 1960s and 1970s, and this is just one of the harms of the impact of a highly extractive colonial interest that destroyed a magnificent native environment and indigenous forests, with huge impacts on the ability of iwi to maintain their cultural practices\u2014their means of self-sustenance and food production that were traditional. But iwi quickly were able to produce food by other means. Indeed, as it is noted, in 1841 in T\u0101maki, it was Ng\u0101ti Paoa who provided the food to the settlers there, bringing Te Tiriti o Waitangi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000465\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003ESo we stand here and we must acknowledge the loss and the harm done. We must acknowledge that it\u2019s the Crown that has done that harm that has wronged Ng\u0101ti Paoa, and here we make some small amends for that. But, really, as has been spoken by others in the House, the deeper challenge to us as a nation is to uphold Te Tiriti o Waitangi through ongoing relationship and justice. This is not a thing that has a full stop at the end of it; this is a thing that must go on if we are to have a viable, a meaningful, and a legitimate society in this land. That\u2019s what we stand here for today, and we commend this deed to the House. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022 data-id=\u00226c8614bcf0e245bb856d941a17ba0569\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226c8614bcf0e245bb856d941a17ba0569\u0022\u003EDAN BIDOIS (National\u2014Northcote):\u003C/span\u003E E te M\u0101ngai\u2014Madam Speaker\u2014it\u2019s a pleasure to rise to take a call in the second reading of the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill. I\u2019d like to start out by acknowledging the officials from Te Arawhiti for your work. Thank you very much. Michael and Glenn, the negotiators; the Ministers, past and present; Mr Goldsmith, and Andrew Little. I\u2019d like to acknowledge the hard-working M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, past and present, for their work in getting this bill to the second reading today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EThe Ng\u0101ti Paoa area of interest is quite expansive. It covers a vast area from the Kaimai Ranges to the Waikato, large parts of Auckland, up to Wellsford, Waiheke, and even parts of the Coromandel. And I might be biased, but perhaps the area of interest that is probably most good is the area of Northcote, which comes under that area\u2014the mighty area of Northcote. But it is a vast area of land, and the purpose of this bill, which really has been canvassed by the House today, is to acknowledge the past through an apology, acknowledge the past wrongs from the Crown over 160 years ago, and to try to make amends so that this iwi can focus on the future. Now, acknowledging that this iwi has three competing or additional claims that they\u2019ve got before the Waitangi Tribunal and they\u2019ve got other interests that they\u2019re wanting, but this bill seeks to make amends and address some of those wrongs. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000468\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EA part of the select committee process\u2014which we picked up as a 54th Parliament, but, actually, the 53rd Parliament was part of\u2014the committee received 351 submissions and there were 25 oral submissions that were heard. There were a bunch of technical amendments to the bill, but two major changes which I wish to highlight for this House today. The first was with respect to claim Wai 968 and the recommendation from the select committee to remove the clause, to remove Wai 968 from the bill. The second area of change was with respect to moving Wai 365 from one clause of the bill to another, and this was to reflect the fact that Wai 365 is only partially settled by this bill before us today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000469\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EThe other issue I wish to talk about for the House, which I must say we received quite a lot of correspondence on, was with respect to the Waiheke Station Trust. Now, there is a provision in this bill that transfers the assets that are in this trust to the new post-settlement governance entity. We received quite a lot of correspondence that this should not be done and that the assets of this trust should stay with the current Waiheke Station Trust. We received much correspondence from the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Trust Board to that effect, and, essentially, we rejected their claim to do so under the grounds that\u2014and I wish to remind the members who are coming in and hearing this online that the beneficiaries of the same trust, the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Trust Board, are the same descendants of Ng\u0101ti Paoa. So transferring the assets from one trust to another doesn\u2019t change, in fact, the people who benefit from that trust, which is descendants of Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000470\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003ENow, the iwi trust that was designated as a post-settlement governance entity was ratified in 2013 and the trust board didn\u2019t actually participate in this process. They did challenge this process in the courts, and that failed. So the members of the select committee were satisfied that the impact from transferring the assets from the Waiheke Station Trust to the new post-settlement governance entity will actually be beneficial for all those descendants of Ng\u0101ti Paoa. That is probably the biggest issue that I wanted to talk about today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000471\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EOther areas that I wish to just remind the House of are the main provisions of the bill, which essentially vests 12 cultural heritage sites significant to Ng\u0101ti Paoa. There\u2019s also some commercial and financial redress, just roughly about $24 million. I\u2019d like to remind members and this House that it is a small pittance that doesn\u2019t actually give justice to the confiscation and the mamae that has been impacted, but this amount, hopefully, can enable Ng\u0101ti Paoa to focus on the future. Who knows what that asset base can be 10 years from now, after this bill goes through and is signed into law?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000472\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003ESo that is with respect to the financial redress. There is an apology as part of the\u00A0deed of settlement that is given effect to in the bill, and also a whole bunch of other\u2014perhaps minor, in respect to what I\u2019ve talked about\u2014provisions of the bill.\u00A0It\u00A0is with pleasure to report that this bill was passed in select committee unanimously, reported back to the House, and it is my pleasure to commend this bill. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101\u00A0koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u0022cdbb6b95c3204d029ff62d8716e2febf\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000473\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cdbb6b95c3204d029ff62d8716e2febf\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E As I said earlier, it\u2019s wonderful that we\u2019re all in unison and love at this particular time of the week\u2014it\u2019s not often that everybody falls all over each other. I think it was set last night with our Pacific brothers and sisters who turned up; beautiful night last night when everybody\u2014well, we were just about all in love last night, but the Nats, sadly, spoilt the party again, couldn\u2019t come to the party. That was sad, but these Treaty settlements, as I said, bring the best out in us and everybody seems to find their human side.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000474\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI was listening to Jenny Marcroft talking about Mihingarangi and the reo, the M\u0101ori language journey. So much of that is recovered in these settlements and acknowledged in these settlements\u2014really proud of Mihi and the work she\u2019s done through the years. But you find that often within different groups as they look at the trauma of the language, the loss of language, and you find only one or two of them are kaik\u014Drero, or speakers. So that\u2019s why we\u2019ve had our M\u0101ori language renaissance, revivals all around the country\u2014so important. Ng\u0101ti Paoa\u2019s another example of that huge loss in terms of te reo M\u0101ori, but you will see now, as our rangatahi come through\u2014and they come through and we see them here in the House as they\u2019ve journeyed through\u2014how important the reo is. I just want to mihi to Mihi, not just for her language but for her advocacy, and I played a little bit of a role with her, facilitating a few things with Ng\u0101ti Paoa over the last couple of years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000475\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EThese journeys are always tough. I was listening to Hana, and it\u2019s really tough when one side of your family\u2019s protesting and the other side of the family is negotiating the Treaty settlement, but that\u2019s a reality for a lot of wh\u0101nau M\u0101ori. My own family have been a classic example: they\u2019re all absolutely opposed to the Treaty settlement process, and my uncle Syd Jackson, Uncle Moana Jackson, who were my father\u2019s brothers and some of the strongest advocates ever in terms of kaupapa M\u0101ori, but also supported our people when they had to do settlements. So we\u2019ve talked about that at length during the week, and it\u2019s good that the House can come together at these sorts of times, particularly after question time, because that can be a bit of a raucous time, and you wouldn\u2019t think it was the same House, actually.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000476\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EBut I just want to say, as this is only a second reading, that it\u2019s incredibly important that we acknowledge the tribe, the iwi. We want to acknowledge Kerrin, our mate Kerrin Leoni, who\u2019s on the super-city council\u2014first M\u0101ori woman elected on to the Auckland Council\u2014from Ng\u0101ti Paoa, a strong advocate. We want to mihi to her for her advocacy for her people. I thank Dan Bidois and the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee for processing this through, and, obviously, the current Minister, Minister Goldsmith, and former Ministers Little and\u2014[Interruption] Who?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000477\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b017dd8e4df44c648f9e6488f0949d6f\u0022\u003EHon Scott Simpson\u003C/span\u003E: Finlayson.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000478\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224ccc59d3acb44c388a2cab715289c012\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, he gets enough acknowledgments, Chris Finlayson\u2014jingos! But without doubt, he did a very good job, too. So just being in the second reading, I want to acknowledge this, tautoko this kaupapa, and we look forward to the final reading when Ng\u0101ti Paoa people will receive their final dose of justice. N\u014D reira, t\u0113nei te mihi ki a t\u0101tou katoa. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022 data-id=\u0022dffb09d2ab88490eab46e57c8a856d34\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000479\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022dffb09d2ab88490eab46e57c8a856d34\u0022\u003ERIMA NAKHLE (National\u2014Takanini):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. It is with quiet pleasure that I stand up and speak in support of this bill, the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill. I\u2019m honoured to be on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. It is an honour and it is a privilege, and I am grateful to my colleagues on the committee, most of whom have a beautiful M\u0101ori background, for accepting me\u2014the \u201CLebo\u201D on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000480\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003ENow, the basic purpose of the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill is to give effect to some of the elements of the Ng\u0101ti Paoa deed of settlement, which was signed on 20 March 2021 by Ng\u0101ti Paoa, between Ng\u0101ti Paoa and the Crown. The deed is the final settlement of all historical Treaty claims of Ng\u0101ti Paoa, resulting from acts of the Crown or omissions of the Crown prior to 21 September 1992.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000481\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EThis settlement deed includes an agreed historical account and Crown acknowledgments which form the basis of the Crown apology to Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Ng\u0101ti Paoa will receive redress that includes financial and commercial redress valued at around $23.5\u00A0million, along with a range of other commercial, cultural, and relationship items. But no amount of money will do anything to come close to erasing the pain and the suffering that the ancestors of Ng\u0101ti Paoa have been through, and not just the ancestors but those living right now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000482\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EWhat I\u2019m appreciative as well about the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill is that it\u00A0includes also the return of 12 sites of cultural significance. A couple of days ago when\u00A0I spoke in the House, I referred to how, with our M\u0101ori brothers and sisters, everything they do with respect to their culture\u2014or to our culture, because I\u2019m here\u2014has significance. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000483\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003ESo what are these 12 sites of cultural significance? I feel it\u2019s important to list them here in the House. My colleagues have done such a great job of talking about the technicalities of the bill. Allow me to list the 12 sites of cultural significance in this Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill. The first is Hine-nui-o-te-paua. It\u2019s 2 hectares as a fee simple for a papak\u0101inga, which is a very, very important form of establishment that I\u2019ve seen be established around when I go along with some of my friends to the blessings, and I think it can do such great wonder for the people involved with residing at these beautiful establishments.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000484\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EKaiaua School property: 2 hectares. It\u2019s subject to a leaseback to the Ministry of Education. M\u0101whitipia, M\u0101\u2014be patient with me, my friends. M\u0101whitipana: 1.9 hectares as a recreation reserve. Omaru: 40.6 hectares as a recreation reserve. Paoa Ururoa: just under half a hectare as a historical reserve. Paoa Ururua: 1.6 hectares as a recreation reserve\u2014and this is all very important. Paoa Whanake, 2 hectares for a local marae; Papakura P\u0101\u2014go, South Auckland!\u2014as a scientific reserve; Pokai Wawahi Ika, 2.3 hectares; and three other lands of cultural significance as well. I\u2019m pleased about that, and, again, nothing really goes close to erasing the suffering of the past, but this does that little bit where there\u2019s sites that will be vested back to Ng\u0101ti Paoa where cultural significance is in these sites, and our people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa can build again for the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000485\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003ENow, I\u2019d like to bring attention to who this settlement bill affects. Well, Ng\u0101ti Paoa comprises about 3,500 official members, as per census figures. As mentioned earlier by this great chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, the MP for Northcote, Dan Bidois, the area of interests for Ng\u0101ti Paoa referenced in the deed of settlement, the tribal land, stretches along the western shores of the Hauraki Gulf and the eastern suburbs of\u00A0Auckland, and it comprises islands in the T\u0101maki Strait, including Waiheke, and reaches across to the Coromandel Peninsula, and more. And so it will come as no surprise to the House that the Ng\u0101ti Paoa rohe encompasses some of the most majestic, breathtaking, and awe-inspiring places in our beautiful country, including, but not limited to, my beautiful electorate of Takanini.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000486\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EIndeed, many of the Auckland-based MPs fall within the Ng\u0101ti Paoa rohe, including, as I said, Takanini, the only home I have known since moving here to Aotearoa New Zealand over 12 years ago. So I would like to thank you, Ng\u0101ti Paoa members, including the many mates I have back in South Auckland and East Auckland, for your manaakitanga. I would also like to make particular mention of my dear friend Frank Haimona, a Ng\u0101ti Paoa child, who, through his work with our tamariki and rangatahi in Takanini within the Ng\u0101ti Paoa tribal land, ensures the essence of his homeland is cared\u00A0for by the children for their futures\u2014from planting trees all over the land to cultivating the fruit, vegetables, and herbs in their m\u0101ra kai they have established in Takanini. Frank lives by what he was taught by his Ng\u0101ti Paoa t\u012Bpuna: connect the children to their whenua and culture, and they will strive. And this is what underpins the bill before us today to strengthen the future of Ng\u0101ti Paoa for their future, their mokopuna. Mokopuna is what drives the kaum\u0101tua and the kuia who have suffered so much to get this settlement to where it is today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000487\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to end my contribution today with a quote from one of the many submitters who shared their k\u014Drero and their whakaaro to this bill. Lorna Rikihana said to us, \u201C \u2018Whakapapa is history, and history is whakapapa\u2019 so our mana whenua holds firm and strong from our taunaha whenua t\u016Bpuna to all our descendants living today. We are not dead, but survive as living legacies, carrying our mokopuna forward in these changing times of the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill.\u201D The benefits of this settlement bill will be available to all members of Ng\u0101ti Paoa wherever they may live. Thank you to all who took place in bringing us to where we are today. I acknowledge Te Arawhiti. But I acknowledge even more, as I said, the kaum\u0101tua and the kuia, some of whom now rest in peace, that reaching a settlement was one of their dreams, not for their own benefit, but for the benefit of their future. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022fd939d6e513140869aea05f2262fe6c6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000488\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fd939d6e513140869aea05f2262fe6c6\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The next call is a split call. I call Cushla Tangaere-Manuel.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022 data-id=\u00225ed15959ac89418fb715c467a8057649\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000489\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225ed15959ac89418fb715c467a8057649\u0022\u003ECUSHLA TANGAERE-MANUEL (Labour\u2014Ikaroa-R\u0101whiti):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te M\u0101ngai, otir\u0101 t\u0113n\u0101 rawa atu t\u0101tou katoa kua huihui mai i t\u0113nei p\u014D. N\u014Dku te whiwhi, e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare, ki te t\u016B ki te tautoko i t\u0113nei pire, ar\u0101 te Pire Whakataunga Ker\u0113me a Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000490\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003ET\u0113nei te mihi atu ki a koutou, ng\u0101 uri o Ng\u0101ti Paoa kua tae mai i t\u0113nei ahiahi. Kua tae mai \u0101-tinana, \u0101, r\u0101tou kua tae mai \u0101-wairua, kia tau tonu t\u0113nei waka ki uta m\u014D koutou, otir\u0101 m\u014D \u014D koutou uri whakatipu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000491\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003ET\u0113nei te w\u012Bw\u012B N\u0101ti e tangi atu nei ki a koutou, Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Ko m\u0101tou o Ng\u0101ti Porou ka noho ki r\u014D puihi, ar\u0101 tino isolated. I runga i t\u0113r\u0101, k\u0101re i raupatungia \u014D m\u0101tou whenua. Kei a m\u0101tou tonu \u014D m\u0101tou whenua ahakoa e k\u012B ana i te k\u014Dti, kei a m\u0101tou tonu \u014D m\u0101tou whenua. Ko te take o taku tangi ki a koutou, me p\u0113hea te M\u0101ori ka t\u016B hei tangata whenua m\u0113n\u0101 k\u0101re e taea te t\u016B ki runga i t\u014Du ake whenua? N\u0101 reira me whakatika ka tika. Me p\u0113hea te tangata whenua e taea te karanga ki tana wai m\u0113n\u0101 kua tangohia ng\u0101 wai i t\u014D koutou whenua? Kei te tangi te ng\u0101kau ki a koutou, ki a r\u0101tou kua wehe atu, \u0101, ko te t\u016Bmanako kia whakatika ka tika m\u014D ng\u0101 uri whakatipu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000492\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003EHeoi an\u014D r\u0101 kua oti i aku hoa o roto o te Whare nei ng\u0101 mihi, n\u0101 reira ko t\u0101ku te mihi hoki ki ng\u0101 Minita n\u0101 r\u0101tou t\u0113nei pire i kawe i roto i t\u0113nei Whare, ar\u0101 ko Finlayson t\u0113r\u0101, ko Little, t\u0113nei hoki te mihi atu ki a Paul Goldsmith n\u0101na i kawe kia whakawhiti whakaaro t\u0101tou i te r\u0101 tonu nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000493\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003EI rongo m\u0101tou, ki te tango te whenua i te tangata, ehara ko te whenua anake ka tangohia. Ka tangohia te reo, ka tangohia ng\u0101 tikanga, ka tangohia hoki te hononga o te tangata ki t\u014Dna whenua. \u0100, i runga i t\u0113r\u0101, kua kite m\u0101tou te maha o ng\u0101 M\u0101ori kua ngaro i t\u0113nei ao. Ka noho ngoikore ana, k\u0101ore te nuinga e kite i te hononga engari kei reira tonu te hononga. Ki te tangohia te whenua, ka ngaro te M\u0101ori. N\u0101 te mea ko te whenua ko m\u0101tou, ko ng\u0101 wai ko m\u0101tou tonu. Ko Papat\u016B\u0101nuku, ko Ranginui t\u0113r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000494\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira me whakatika i ng\u0101 h\u0113 o te Karauna ka tika. Me whakatika te mana o te wai ka tika. Me whakatika kia whai k\u0101inga ng\u0101 mokopuna a Ng\u0101ti Paoa ka tika, kia taea r\u0101tou ki te t\u016B ki te whakahua i t\u014D r\u0101tou reo i runga i t\u014D r\u0101tou ake whenua, ki te whakamahi i \u0101 r\u0101tou tikanga i runga i \u014D r\u0101tou ake marae, ki te whai mana r\u0101tou hei mana whenua o Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000495\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003EE te M\u0101ngai o te Whare, k\u0101re au e p\u012Brangi kia t\u014Droangia \u0113nei k\u014Drero. Kua roa nei a Ng\u0101ti Paoa e whawhai ana, e tatari ana kia whakatika i ng\u0101 h\u0113 o te Karauna. N\u0101 reira k\u0101re e p\u012Brangi kia t\u014Droangia, kua roa nei te w\u0101, tae noa ki t\u0113nei w\u0101. Ko t\u0101ku he mihi atu an\u014D ki a koutou o Ng\u0101ti Paoa i tae \u0101-tinana mai, koutou i whawhai m\u014D t\u014D koutou iwi. He mihi hoki ki a r\u0101tou kua wehe, r\u0101tou k\u0101re e kore kua tae \u0101-wairua mai i t\u0113nei r\u0101. He mihi hoki ki ng\u0101 uri whakatipu o Ng\u0101ti Paoa n\u0101 te mea ko r\u0101tou ng\u0101 tamariki mokopuna e whakarongo mai ana, e m\u0101takitaki mai ana i t\u0113nei ahiahi, ka puta i a r\u0101tou ng\u0101 hua \u0101 koutou m\u0101 i whawhai m\u0101 r\u0101tou kia taea e r\u0101tou te t\u016B i runga i \u014D koutou whenua, ki te taha o \u014D koutou moana, \u014D koutou awa, te whakahua i \u014D koutou tikanga i roto i t\u014D koutou ake reo.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000496\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003EHei whakakapi, he mihi hoki ki te komiti, ar\u0101 kei te kite atu au i a koe, Tiamana Dan, koutou i whakaae i t\u0113nei pire. N\u0101 reira i runga i ng\u0101 mihi kua oti i a au, n\u014Dku te h\u014Dnore, e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare, ki te whakaae i t\u0113nei pire. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000497\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker, indeed greetings to all of us who have assembled here this evening. It is my good fortune to stand in support of this bill, the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000498\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003EThis is also an acknowledgment of you, the descendants of Ng\u0101ti Paoa who have arrived here this evening. Those who have come in person, and also those who have come in spirit, so that this canoe makes landfall for you, indeed for your flourishing descendants. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000499\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003EHere is a true, blue Ng\u0101ti Porou that grieves for you, Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Us in Ng\u0101ti Porou, we live in the bush, so we are very isolated. And because of that, our lands were not confiscated. We remain in possession of our land even though the court is full, we are still in possession of our lands. The reason that I grieve for you is: how can a M\u0101ori stand as tangata whenua if you are unable to stand on your own land? So that must be corrected. How can the people of the land call to their water if the water has been removed from your land? My heart cries for you, for those who have passed away, and my hope is that this should be corrected for the growing descendants.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000500\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003EHowever, my colleagues in this House have already made the necessary acknowledgments, so I will acknowledge the Ministers responsible for carrying this bill through this House; that is Finlayson, Little, and I would also like to acknowledge Paul Goldsmith who brought it here so that we could exchange ideas this very day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000501\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003EWe have heard that if you take the land away from someone, it is not only the land that is taken. The language is taken, customary practices are taken, and the connection that the person has with their land is also taken. And, due to that, we have seen many M\u0101ori that are lost in this world. They remain listless, the majority don\u2019t see the connection, but the connection is still present. If the land is taken, the M\u0101ori people are lost. Because we are the land, we are the very waters. That is Papat\u016B\u0101nuku and Ranginui.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000502\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003ESo the mistakes of the Crown must be corrected. The power of water must be corrected. It must be corrected so that the grandchildren of Ng\u0101ti Paoa will have a home, so that they can stand and express their language on their own land, to enact their customary practices on their own marae, so that they have their own power as the terrestrial authority of Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003EI don\u2019t want to drag out these comments. Ng\u0101ti Paoa have been fighting for a long time and waiting for a long time for the mistakes of the Crown to be corrected. So I don\u2019t want to drag this out, it\u2019s been a long time up until now. What I\u2019d like to do is again acknowledge those who have passed on, those who have without a doubt come here in spirit today. I also acknowledge the growing descendants of Ng\u0101ti Paoa because they are the children and grandchildren that are listening, that are watching this evening, and the prosperity that you fought for on their behalf will come to them so that they may stand on your lands, beside your oceans, your rivers, and to express your customary practices in your own language.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ad7ccb58-34d9-4340-9b9d-6523bc4dda32\u0022\u003ETo conclude, I also acknowledge the committee; I see you, Chairperson Dan, and all of you that approved this bill. And so with regard to the acknowledgments that I have made, it is my honour to support this bill. Greetings to all of us.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022 data-id=\u0022cda3d78cc62a4d4bb668859cb4178053\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000505\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cda3d78cc62a4d4bb668859cb4178053\u0022\u003EGREG FLEMING (National\u2014Maungakiekie):\u003C/span\u003E E te M\u0101ngai, e tautoko ana au kia tautoko ai t\u0113nei whakaaetanga i waenganui i te iwi o Ng\u0101ti Paoa me t\u0113nei Whare, te Whare o te K\u0101wanatanga. Ki au, ki \u014Dku whakaaro, t\u0113nei te tino mahi a t\u0113nei Whare n\u0101 te mea ko t\u0113nei te mahi o te rongomau, kia rongomau ai i waenganui i ng\u0101 iwi o t\u0113nei motu. Ahakoa te wh\u0101nui o te mamae, ahakoa te wh\u0101nui o te wero, kia whai atu ai t\u0113nei Whare i t\u0113r\u0101 momo rongomau. N\u0101 reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou e ng\u0101 kaiwhiriwhiri o t\u0113nei whakaaetanga. Ko \u0101 koutou mahi te mahi a te Atua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000506\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EMe ng\u0101 mihi hoki ki ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata o te iwi o Ng\u0101ti Paoa. E ai ki ng\u0101 k\u014Drero a te mema o mua, ahakoa i te tinana \u0101e r\u0101nei, i te wairua, i te tinana hoki n\u0101 te mea t\u0113nei pire e p\u0101 ana ki te whai atu I te whakap\u016B\u0101wai o t\u014D iwi, \u0101e.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000507\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira k\u0101ore e t\u016B ki konei ki te k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki ng\u0101 taipitopito o t\u0113nei pire, i whakatakotoria \u0113r\u0101 taipitopito e ng\u0101 mema o mua. Engari ko t\u014Dku t\u016Bmanako, ko t\u014Dku wawata i t\u0113nei r\u0101 ko te k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki t\u014Dku wheako o te moana me ng\u0101 motu me te whenua hoki o Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000508\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003E[To the Speaker, I am in support of the support for this agreement between the people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa and this House, the House of the Government. To me, in my opinion, this is the real work of this House because of this endeavour of peace, that there be enduring peace between the people of this nation. Despite the breadth of the anguish, despite the breadth of the challenge, this House should pursue that type of peace. And so I acknowledge the negotiators of this agreement. You do God\u2019s work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000509\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EGreetings also to the people of the iwi of Ng\u0101ti Paoa. According to the comments of the previous member, whether they are here in person or in spirit, because this bill concerns the pursuit of the flourishing of your people\u2014yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000510\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EAnd so I do not stand here to speak about the details of this bill, those details were laid out by the previous members. But my hope, my dream today, is to speak about my experience of the ocean and the islands and the lands also of Ng\u0101ti Paoa.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000511\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EWhen I first graduated from Victoria University, I had the pleasure of living for a couple of years at the end of the Mahurangi Peninsula, where I looked out, literally every day, on the moana and the motu of Ng\u0101ti Paoa. Most evenings, I would kayak out to Moturekareka and motu Kitekite. I remember, one night, coming back through the moonlight\u2014literally, the moon was on my back, and it was from the island heading back to the end of the peninsula. As I kayaked through there\u2014it is a memory that\u2019s wedded into my mind, and it came to my mind as I read this bill\u2014every time that I dipped the oar in, that fluoro-green phosphorescence would come up, and the life that it spoke of. That was what came to mind today, when I read of this bill, and that was a picture for me of what I hope and pray for this bill, and the fresh start that it might be, for the people of Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000512\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EI have also been privileged to spend time on the island of Rotoroa, Rotoroa Island, and also, just last month, I was on Motuihe. And everywhere I go there, the wairua is there, as it was this past Saturday morning, when I was invited to the opening blessing\u2014even though it was at four in the morning\u2014of a new housing project in Mount Wellington. As their kaum\u0101tua and kaikaranga led us through the blessing, I was again privileged to sit within the wairua and to hear the calls of Ng\u0101ti Paoa, and that is the primary reason why I stand here today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000513\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EThe details of this bill have been well canvassed. I more than anything want to mihi to the people for whom this bill exists, what this is all about, which is their flourishing. That is the purpose of these settlement bills. As has been said, eloquently, by previous speakers, these bills do not seek to wash away the sins of the past\u2014that can never be done. Rather, what they do is acknowledge that when mana motuhake is restored, a new future is promised, a new future beckons. For that reason, it is my absolute privilege, as a member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, as a member of this Government, to stand in the awa of many Governments before and, resoundingly, recommend this bill to the House. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022 data-id=\u0022a19793e867a3470cb92d10ddc1432685\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000514\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a19793e867a3470cb92d10ddc1432685\u0022\u003EHon RACHEL BROOKING (Labour\u2014Dunedin):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It\u2019s a great privilege to be able to speak, as the member for Dunedin, on the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill today. Obviously, I\u2019m from a place very far away from Ng\u0101ti Paoa, but my father was very lucky to grow up and spend his high school years at the college that his father started at, Mahurangi College, at the top of the rohe. So I acknowledge what the previous speakers have said as well, about the beautiful part of the country that this is and the importance to all those who live there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000515\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EI also want to touch on the overlapping interests in this part of the country as well and how that has taken a very long time for this bill to end up here today, having its second reading. That, we\u2019ve heard, has not been easy. There\u2019s been a lot of people involved in this process who have passed in that time, and I want to acknowledge all of their work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000516\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EI also want to acknowledge the Hauraki Gulf in general. I\u2019ve been lucky to be part of\u2014both on the Environment Committee and previously as a Minister\u2014the Hauraki Gulf/T\u012Bkapa Moana Marine Protection Bill. And I want to acknowledge, of course, all the important work that Ng\u0101ti Paoa has done in that part of the country, and continues to do, with r\u0101hui and other work that we\u2019ve heard about from other speakers\u2014that\u2019s well needed. Also the work of the Ministers, going through many administrations, which just goes to the amount of time that has taken with these processes, from Chris Finlayson to Andrew Little to now Paul Goldsmith. Of course , with all of those people, there come many officials and the processes before that even starts. And even more than all of the officials, all of the people have been involved from the iwi. And what a lot of work\u2014almost there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000517\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EThe bill itself has some very important provisions, and one of those is the acknowledgments. These are long and they start at page 12 of the bill, at clause 9. I just wanted to pay particular attention to some of those because this is very sober reading when we read the acknowledgments, and, of course, when we get to the apology as well. But, at subclause 17 of clause 9: \u201CThe Crown acknowledges that environmental changes in pollution since the 19th century have been a source of distress and grievance for Ng\u0101ti Paoa. In particular, the Crown acknowledges that modifications to the course of the Piako River and its tributaries since the 1890s have drained resource-rich wetlands, destroyed Ng\u0101ti Paoa w\u0101hi tapu, and caused significant harm the kaimoana sources relied on by Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u201D That reflects many terrible actions over many years, and it\u2019s important that it\u2019s addressed in this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000518\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EThere are other acknowledgments. We\u2019ve heard a powerful speech before from Jenny Marcroft, about the distress when people lose their language, and that\u2019s included in the acknowledgments as well. We\u2019ve heard about land being taken, and, of course, the other environmental destructions in the environment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000519\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EWe go to the apology, then, at clause 10, that includes: \u201CThe Crown profoundly regrets its failure to protect Ng\u0101ti Paoa from the rapid alienation of land in the decades following the signing of Te Tiriti o Waitangi/the Treaty of Waitangi and the loss of life and the devastation caused by hostilities arising from its invasions of lands south of the Mangat\u0101whiri.\u201D And it goes on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000520\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EBut my point is that these are very serious issues, and I can\u2019t imagine the amount of emotion that\u2019s gone in to all of the work that has led up to this bill, from all of the people affected by what\u2019s happened over these many, many years.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000521\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EI also note that some of the claims that are part of this bill lead to different acknowledgments in different pieces of legislation, such as the Resource Management Act and the Conservation Act. This is very important in the current political context. There is a lot at stake for our environment at the moment, and it seems that the only way things can be protected is if they are in settlement legislation. So it\u2019s important that this piece of legislation continues through the House and that you have those safeguards.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000522\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003ESo, again, thank you for the opportunity to speak on this. I wish everybody well in continuing with this piece of legislation so it can have its third reading. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022 data-id=\u0022f65f161d067d45e3a9a7964d00033974\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000523\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f65f161d067d45e3a9a7964d00033974\u0022\u003EDANA KIRKPATRICK (National\u2014East Coast):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. Kia ora. He h\u014Dnore nui m\u014Dku ki te k\u014Drero ki a koutou katoa. He mea nui ki ahau te t\u016B i mua i a koutou me te whakanui i a koutou. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000524\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003E[Hello. It is an honour for me to speak to you all. It is important for me to stand before you and celebrate you all. Thank you very much.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000525\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s a privilege for me, indeed, to rise and stand and take a call on this significant bill for Ng\u0101ti Paoa. I\u2019d like to acknowledge Ng\u0101ti Paoa, a very proud iwi from the North and bordering on the Hauraki Gulf, on the Auckland side, as far south as Te Aroha. It is indeed a beautiful part of Aotearoa, and I\u2019d like to acknowledge the deep pride and connection to their whenua. In the 2013 census, which was the information that was provided, there were 3,500 members of Ng\u0101ti Paoa, but I am sure there are many more now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000526\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EAs a member of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, I\u2019m beginning my journey of understanding the historical events, the raupatu, and terrible atrocities that have found us in this House today, in the second reading of this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000527\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003ETo recap, this deed was signed by Andrew Little at Kaiaua, but there were many years of work that went before, years of discussion and negotiation. Whilst many of us are new to this work, we must pay tribute to the many who showed true fortitude, commitment, and dedication to their cause. Leadership is everything in these kinds of negotiations, and Ng\u0101ti Paoa has shown that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000528\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EMany of these people involved right from the beginning of this negotiation and working through the claims into a deed will not have been able to see the finalisation of their claim, and we hope that they can now rest more easily, knowing that the extreme effort they made will pave the way for a better future for their wh\u0101nau, their communities, their tamariki, and their mokopuna both here and those yet to come.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000529\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003ENational has always supported this bill, and is pleased to continue to do so. Previous Ministers: of course, the Hon Chris Finlayson KC made a significant contribution, which was then followed by the Hon Andrew Little, who completed the deed and was there for the signing and then the first reading through the House, to the select committee stage. In fact, negotiations began in 2011, when iwi members gave a mandate to negotiators to progress a comprehensive settlement with the Crown. An agreement in principle was reached in 2011, and following 10 long years, the deed was signed in 2021. I would like to just make mention and thank Te Arawhiti for their work in getting this bill to this stage; the select committee, both past and present; the negotiators; and everyone who has been involved to this point.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000530\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EThe Ng\u0101ti Paoa Claims Settlement Bill is intended to be the final settlement of all historical Treaty claims of Ng\u0101ti Paoa, resulting from acts or omissions by the Crown prior to 21 September 1992. It is made up of a package that includes an agreed historical account and Crown acknowledgments, which form the basis of an apology to Ng\u0101ti Paoa; cultural redress, including the vesting of 12 sites in the Ng\u0101ti Paoa area of interest, which you\u2019ve already heard from my colleague Rima Nakhle; a financial redress of a total of $23.5 million; and a commercial redress involving the purchase of some Crown properties.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000531\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Paoa are a maritime people, as has also been mentioned today, with their origins to the Te Arawa and Tainui waka. Their area of interest includes Mahurangi, T\u0101maki-makau-rau, the Hauraki Plains and gulf islands, and parts of Waikato. The 2018 census subsequently estimated that Ng\u0101ti Paoa had 4,800 members\u2014so there you go.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000532\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EBack in 2009, the Crown proposed a regional approach to four Treaty settlements to iwi and hap\u016B, including Ng\u0101ti Paoa, with interests in the Kaipara, T\u0101maki-makau-rau, and Hauraki regions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000533\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EOver the course of the 20th century, almost all of Ng\u0101ti Paoa\u2019s remaining land was alienated to private purchasers and the Crown. Land was also taken under the Public Works Act, and these public works processes sometimes meant p\u0101 and w\u0101hi tapu sites were destroyed. In 1908, the Crown authorised a project to drain and develop the Hauraki wetlands, and, over the following years, the Crown altered waterways, drowned the wetlands, and changed the course of the Waihou and Piako rivers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000534\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EBy the end of the 20th century, only 27 percent of Ng\u0101ti Paoa spoke te reo. The decline of Ng\u0101ti Paoa tribal structures and the loss of te reo M\u0101ori meant that the kaum\u0101tua felt they lost the m\u0101tauranga of their iwi and their whenua and the ability to pass it on to their tamariki. In the 20th and 21st centuries, like many iwi around the country, Ng\u0101ti Paoa experienced declining health and many inequities and accessibility issues.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000535\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EIn the select committee stages of the hearing of this bill, there were a number of submissions worth mentioning, and I want to just focus on a couple that came through. This one from Tania Tarawa, who said in her submission in the concluding remarks \u201Cat the signing of the Ng\u0101ti Paoa Deed of Settlement at Wharekawa Marae [she] spoke about our vision for the future [and] About the promise of a new day and the dawn of a new tomorrow. Ng\u0101ti Paoa has lost and suffered much but perhaps the worst has been the erosion of our identity and the fracturing of our relationships. We are desperate for this process to be over. We are ready to build our own future and restore our cultural narratives back to ourselves. We anxiously await the time when what remains of our precious whenua will be returned to us and our mokopuna may be connected once again to the places that are our birthright. Most of all,\u201D she said, \u201Cwe want to and need to rebuild our relationships with each other and let go of the hurts of the past. The passage of the bill through the House will be the marker point that begins that journey for us.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000536\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EOf course, we\u2019ve already heard of some of the great words of Mihingarangi Forbes, who also submitted to the process and has had a long association of whakapapa to Ng\u0101ti Paoa. She said the trauma of language loss plays heavy in her wh\u0101nau\u2014and my colleague Jenny Marcroft alluded to that. But what she said at the end was \u201CIt\u2019s time Ng\u0101ti Paoa begins to heal, to revive our Ng\u0101ti Paoa reo, our own customs and tikanga specific to our hap\u016B.\u201D\u2014and, therefore, she supported the bill and its journey through the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000537\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EGlen Tupuhi, the trust chairman, described the settlement process as long and challenging, but ultimately a defining moment in Ng\u0101ti Paoa\u2019s history. His statement underscored the significance of the settlement in marking a new beginning for Ng\u0101ti Paoa, allowing them to rebuild their estate and legacy while acknowledging the ongoing work to address other parts of their settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000538\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EThere were many great submissions to the process that were heard by my colleagues, and I would like to just acknowledge all of those submitters who took the time and made the journey to come and speak and to be part of that process. It is sometimes difficult, challenging, emotional\u2014and it\u2019s just one part, I think, of the start of that healing process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000539\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EAs I said on Tuesday when I spoke to the Ng\u0101ti Hei claims\u2014the second reading for that bill\u2014there is no redress, no property, no amount of money, no apology that will ever be enough for those who have gone before us. It takes time, dedication, and the patience of a saint to calmly and methodically work through the claims process. I can only imagine the countless hours of discussion and negotiation that have brought us to this point, the sleepless nights, and the pain that comes with explaining the historical injustices that have been.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EIn my part of the country, the East Coast, particularly Tair\u0101whiti\u2014and my friend Cushla Tangaere-Manuel spoke earlier about this\u2014and also in the Eastern Bay, which forms part of my electorate, I\u2019ve seen firsthand the clarity that comes with finalising this long-held objective of Treaty claims. What I have also seen, both at home and around the country, is a growing mana; a confidence to own the issues, to provide solutions, and bring opportunity for jobs, apprenticeships, and the unlocking of potential in iwi. Whether that is the ability to now buy property, buy farms or commercial entities, the opportunities now come to Ng\u0101ti Paoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000541\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EThe monetary value is not huge in the daily sense, but empowerment is invaluable and the return of culturally significant sites and the ability now to have aspirations, hope, and to be the owners of their own destiny is powerful on its own\u2014long-awaited and a tribute to those who have gone before who won\u2019t see the future this iwi can now bring to itself.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000542\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EI urge Ng\u0101ti Paoa to look up, hold their heads high, and take a deep breath. The past\u00A0can\u2019t be changed, but Ng\u0101ti Paoa can now define how it moves forward. My colleagues and I wish them all the very best. They have come a long way to get to this point. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000543\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EBill read a second time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000545\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00226b8633709c5a48e29971dda887f9236f\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income (Controlling Interests) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000546\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00227341510c2eb94a4ca4f0902a24d5d79e\u0022\u003ESecond Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022 data-id=\u002232b6cdbb07464017a4d9126bc8f746b8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000547\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002232b6cdbb07464017a4d9126bc8f746b8\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income (Controlling Interests) Amendment Bill be now read a second time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000548\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022080a62f6a575494fa7c1846a8c17ef17\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That legislative statement is published under the authority of the House and can be found on the Parliament website.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000549\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222ec05c06de9f4f7b8aa098d39cc2414d\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: This bill amends the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Act 2001. It was introduced last year to Parliament by the previous Minister of Finance, the Hon Grant Robertson, and at that time when I rose to speak, I\u00A0was cautious in my support for it and urged that it go through a full select committee process. The bill has now gone through that process and, today, the Government is in a position to support its passage through this House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000550\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EThe bill repeals and replaces the current sections 59 to 59B of the Act, which currently stop the New Zealand Superannuation Fund from taking a controlling stake in entities. That was a key provision of this Act when it was enacted, and it reflected the then early stage of the fund and the fact that it wasn\u2019t mature along the investment cycle. It is now in a very different place. The Superannuation Fund has now got extensive investments, both here in New Zealand and internationally, and is far more mature in terms of both its size, its scale, and its capability. It is in line with that that it is now appropriate that the fund will from time to time consider more complex asset classes for investment and will take a lead investor role. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000551\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EThese amendments in the Act remove a restriction that will now allow the New Zealand Superannuation Fund to take a controlling stake in entities in the future, and I\u00A0think it\u2019s obvious to members of the House that that opens a lot more possibilities for the kinds of investments that the super fund can make. I would say, particularly here at home, there has been much discussion about the fact that we have significant infrastructure needs in this country, that funding and financing those infrastructure needs will not all be met directly from the Crown because not all of those assets need sit directly on the core Crown balance sheet. It is likely that an entity like the New Zealand Superannuation Fund would in future choose to invest in a controlling entity in these sorts of assets and many other sorts of assets where it believes it can get a good return, consistent with the investment principles.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000552\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EThis bill does balance out, I think, the concerns that many in this House will have had that by opening up this potential, there could be politicisation of the way in which the fund invests. So the bill also adds a requirement that the Guardians\u2019 statement of investment policy standards and procedures must include details of the governance framework for the implementation and operation of controlled entities. At the same time, it amends Schedule 1AA of the Act to require that within 10 years, as part of the review, a review of these amendments be made.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000553\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EIt also ensures\u2014and I think this is important\u2014that where there is a controlling investment made by the fund, it does not result in that entity then being treated as part of the Crown, and therefore subject to the obligations that are intended for public sector organisations. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000554\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003ESo, as I said, the select committee considered the importance of the Guardians being able to invest directly in a wide range of investment opportunities in New Zealand but also considered what was required to preserve its independence. The select committee was satisfied that the Guardians will, with this amendment, be able to seek out further investment opportunities, and, in particular, have more flexibility both when entering a holding and exiting a holding\u2014that is to say that, at the moment, the Superannuation Fund can be restricted from entering even a partial holding in an entity if it thinks there is a risk that changes to the ownership structure of that entity in future could leave the Superannuation Fund incidentally with a controlling interest from which it is barred from having in law, and that is also to say that there may be circumstances in which the Superannuation Fund would be forced to exit an asset, even though it was meeting its investment criteria, because of this restriction in the law.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000555\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EI think it\u2019s important to note that enabling controlling interests in this way is not something unusual. In fact, it brings the New Zealand Superannuation Fund in line with many global peers. As I said earlier, typically as sovereign wealth funds mature and develop internal expertise, develop a wider portfolio of investments, more of its capital gets managed in-house rather than through secondary funds.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000556\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003ESimilarly, we have seen here that the New Zealand Superannuation Fund, in the past 20 years, has grown that in-house expertise by developing internal procedures and processes to manage direct investments, and it believes it has reached a point where it is capable of taking this lead investor role with the ability to take a controlling interest in businesses.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000557\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003ESo when we come to this question of the Guardians\u2019 independence, I\u2019d note that the select committee commented that the proposed amendments aim to supplement existing protections in the Act to ensure independence from public or ministerial pressure. I agree with the select committee\u2019s finding in that regard. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000558\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EThe bill in no way weakens or alters the Guardians\u2019 independence from political influence in relation to investment decisions, which is provided for in section 64(2) of the Act, and to ensure appropriate oversight, the bill requires the board of the Guardians to include in the statement of investment policy standards and procedures the details of their\u00A0governance framework for the implementation and operation of controlled entities. I think this provision provides an extra level of transparency and assurance about the circumstances and ways in which the fund would make such investments.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000559\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EI\u2019d note that the select committee commented that the 2019 statutory independent review of the Guardians done by Willis Towers Watson was positive and commented favourably on the Guardians\u2019 governance model and its approach to considering domestic assets for investment. This, I think, should give the House confidence that this\u00A0is, in fact, a mature entity that has the processes and systems in place to ensure it\u00A0makes good investment decisions into the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000560\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EThe select committee noted that by allowing the Guardians to take a controlling interest in more active operating companies, it will actually widen the portfolio that it can invest in. This could actually be particularly important in a counter-cyclical way, which is to say that, at times, if the economy is in difficulty, having a long-term enduring investor able to invest in stakes in businesses at that time could be beneficial to the fund. The select committee also commented that the proposed inclusion of requirements for the governance of controlled entities in the Guardians\u2019 own primary investment documents should operate flexibly but also be a binding set of rules to help mitigate the risks of taking controlling interests.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000561\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EI believe that, ultimately, removing the control restriction will enable the New Zealand Superannuation Fund to access a wider group of viable investment partners and opportunities, that this could, in the long run, lead to better investments on behalf of New Zealanders and investments that can withstand short-term fluctuations in valuation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000562\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003EFinally, I would say that all of this is consistent with something that is very important and that we should not ever, I believe, step away from in this House, which is that the Guardians\u2019 mandate is to invest the Superannuation Fund on a prudent commercial basis, because, actually, the purpose of the fund is to ensure maximum returns over the long run to support the payment of New Zealand\u2019s superannuation into the future. We do not step away from that principle, but making these amendments today, we will allow the Guardians to manage the fund in a manner consistent with best-practice portfolio management.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000563\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003ESo, in closing, the passage of this bill will promote operational efficiencies and will help ensure the New Zealand Superannuation Fund\u2019s assets are being managed in the best way possible. Given, actually, how big the New Zealand Superannuation Fund is on the Crown balance sheet, these changes do actually have potential for material gains, I believe, for our economy. So I thank the select committee for its consideration of the bill, and I commend the committee\u2019s report to the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022d474cc8127f740009064ec1198c9dc5a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000564\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d474cc8127f740009064ec1198c9dc5a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that the motion be agreed to. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022 data-id=\u002248f406f8e6654b7f8b915dfa3277477b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000565\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002248f406f8e6654b7f8b915dfa3277477b\u0022\u003EHon BARBARA EDMONDS (Labour\u2014Mana):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to acknowledge the Minister of Finance\u2019s comments in relation to her support in, obviously, bringing this bill to the House. She set up quite neatly how the view of the cautious support in the first reading has now come to full support of the bill, and I do want to acknowledge when we do agree on things. So thank you, Minister, for your comments in relation to the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000566\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003EThe bill had its first reading just over a year ago. As part of the policy development for this bill\u2014because it was subject to a review, an earlier review\u2014the previous Minister of Finance, the Hon Grant Robertson, wanted to check in with Sir Michael Cullen, who was the founder of the New Zealand Superannuation Fund. He wanted to check in with him about his views about this because he wanted to ensure that\u2014you know, was this the intention and purpose? Because it was very clear that, when the fund was first put in, the ability to have controlling interests were not part of that element; it was not part of the initial Act as it was introduced. Then, obviously, with the review, they allowed for what are called \u201Cfund investment vehicles\u201D, which could take a controlling interest in some entities, such as land, as I understand it, and some particular rural vehicles. But he wanted to go back to Sir Michael and just be able to check base with him to say, \u201CIs this what you were thinking of at the time when you established this fund?\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000567\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003EI do want to pay tribute to Sir Michael, because it wasn\u2019t long after that that Sir Michael did pass away. When the Hon Grant Robertson went to Sir Michael and asked him, he agreed it was time. It was not the right time when the fund was first established, because, at that time, they wanted to ensure that the purpose of the fund was to grow as fast as possible to meet the expectations needed to, basically, build its bank. Then, as things slightly change over the years, the fund has exceeded all expectations for what the Guardians of New Zealand Superannuation had wanted\u2014so it\u2019s actually gone past that. So Sir Michael said, \u201CNow is about right. Now is about the time to be able to make that policy change.\u201D So I do want to acknowledge the late Sir Michael Cullen for, first of all, his founding of the fund, and then, second of all, for his careful advice that he gave to the previous Minister of Finance, the Hon Grant Robertson.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000568\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003EAs the Minister has set out, there are some peculiarities with this particular bill. As members of this House will know, the Official Information Act (OIA), basically, covers most official information of Crown entities and of Crown agencies. But this particular bill has a very purposeful exclusion from the OIA, and that is, again, to ensure that the private sector part of the fund is not subject to the OIA and treated in the same ways, that the information\u2014which would probably be highly commercially sensitive\u2014is not subject to that Official Information Act request.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000569\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003EThe bill also does require there are five-monthly reviews of the super fund and how it functions. The bill does talk to\u2014basically, the 10th-year review of this particular bill coming in is to ensure that that review takes a backward look to ensure that it is tracking\u00A0the way that it should be in the 10 years after the bill gets passed. It\u2019s good to have those checkpoints.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000570\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003EI also want to briefly support some of the changes that the Finance and Expenditure Committee\u2014sorry, more commentary that they had. They were really careful to ensure that they weren\u2019t overstepping the mark, because they wanted to\u2014as members have said in the House previously and through the select committee process\u2014ensure that the Guardians stay as a separate and independent entity, and they wanted to make sure they didn\u2019t overstep that mark, which is why one of the considerations that the Finance and Expenditure Committee thought about was in relation to some of the amendments to section 61. That was whether it should remain in the primary legislation or whether they should enact secondary legislation. But, again, the members basically considered that, no, it was necessary to keep it as part of the bill as introduced. So I just want to acknowledge the Finance and Expenditure Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000571\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003ESo there\u2019s not much more I can add on this part of the bill. Obviously, if there is an intention that we need to have another look to ensure that the revised-track version of the bill in the committee of the whole House stage, if it needs to be done, then we will consider that at that particular stage. Otherwise, this side of the House, the Labour Party, does commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022 data-id=\u00226a4aa210bafb47a091010fe596b2ed0b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000572\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226a4aa210bafb47a091010fe596b2ed0b\u0022\u003EDr LAWRENCE XU-NAN (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I\u2019m speaking on this particular bill, which amends the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income Act 2001, and this is the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income (Controlling Interests) Amendment Bill, second reading. And, in this particular case, the Green Party supports this bill. I don\u2019t know if I can ever get over just how much of a mouthful some of these amendment bills can be!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000573\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003EIn terms of this particular bill, when we were looking at this bill, as the previous speakers have stated, this was something that the Green Party supported through first reading, and this is something that was spoken on by our previous spokesperson for senior citizens, Ricardo Men\u00E9ndez March. As this was going through the Finance and Expenditure Committee\u2014and, again, the previous speaker, the honourable Minister Nicola Willis, has already mentioned in terms of some of the considerations that the select committee has taken. This is particularly around some of the risks and the benefits, and risks of removing the restrictions on these particular controlling interests, and in terms of constraining the guardian investment mandate in the legislation as well as the Guardians\u2019 capacity to use controlling interests effectively and responsibly.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000574\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003EIn this particular case, I think one of the things I would like to address, again, like the previous speakers have spoken on, is that it is, essentially, amending something\u2014it is amending section 59 of the principal Act, allowing it to be a broader scope in terms of the way that the Guardians are able to manage some of these funds. But, as the previous speaker, the Hon Barbara Edmonds, spoke on the Guardians\u2019 present use of the fund investment vehicles\u2014and this is something that I would like to kind of point out, in particular\u2014currently, the Guardians are able to use the FIVs, the fund investment vehicles, as a tool, as well as being able to acquire controlling interests in assets such as rural lands and real estate. I think this is something that the Green Party is really, really interested in. One of the things we would like to see\u2014a missed opportunity, when it was going through select committee\u2014is that we\u2019re able to divest more towards productive investments, as opposed to speculation investments. I think that is something that will be beneficial to Aotearoa\u2019s economy on the whole.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000575\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003EIn particular, in this case, we noticed that the Guardians of New Zealand Superannuation could have a substantial and greater influence over our economy, and, given that it\u2019s such a large potential investor, we really would encourage the particular fund to be guided in their activities into funds such as statutory directives to divest from fossil fuels and the requirement for a portion of the fund to be targeted towards social impact investments, including emissions reduction as well as aligning with the Government\u2019s goal of net-zero carbon emissions by 2050.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000576\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003EI think one of the other things I would like to point out, in this particular case when we\u2019re looking at the Superannuation Fund, is that although it was established in 2001\u2014led by Sir\u00A0Michael Cullen, in this particular case. Although there are several exclusions that the New Zealand Superannuation Fund (NZSF) does not invest in\u2014such as tobacco, such as any sort of cluster munitions and anti-personnel mines, some of the Grasberg mines in Papua, whale meat, etc., etc\u2014we would like to just point out that although this is something that is mentioned in the 2009 Willis Towers Watson report, that, yes, there were positive findings on the Guardians\u2019 governance model. But we would like to point out that, previously, this particular NZSF has been seen and has faced criticism from investing into a series of companies\u2014actually, 24 companies\u2014at the cost of $100 million that has supplied combat aircraft to the Myanmar junta, which is currently a very hot topic and also a topic that\u2019s very close to Myanmar communities in Aotearoa. And this is, again, something to be cautionary about when we\u2019re looking at how the fund is used, and particularly as we expand the scope of that fund through the amendment to section 59.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000577\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003EI think one other thing that I would like to point out, in this particular case\u2014and this is, again, one of those opportunities where Aotearoa is really looking ahead and then thinking about the future of Aotearoa, and particularly the future of our senior citizens, and, in this particular case, by having something like this particular fund. One of the things I would also like to mention is the broader vision of this fund and of superannuation in Aotearoa to support our senior people as they\u2019re heading into retirement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000578\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003EThis is something that we would like to see, by opening up funding opportunities as a controlling investment that we\u2019re able to continue, as Te Ara Ahunga Ora, the Retirement Commission, said\u2014that we would like to see the superannuation age being kept at 65, as opposed to being increased to 67. Because, to be perfectly honest, the people who will be harmed by this particular increase, as we see, will be people such as myself\u2014the millennials who are already burdened by the cost of living; by the lack of ability to afford a warm, dry, safe home that we can call our own; and also by student debt. So, in this particular case, we will see that my generation will be the generation that suffers if we see that age being increased in terms of our superannuation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000579\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003EOn top of that, another thing to also consider is, as we\u2019re looking at the model of the Superannuation Fund and particularly being able to invest and have greater returns, as the Minister of Finance suggested, we\u2019re also looking at opening up that possibility and also addressing the fact that there are sections of our communities\u2014particularly those with significant and recorded and evidence-based lower life expectancy\u2014that may never enjoy the superannuation at the age of 65, like our M\u0101ori, like our Pasifika communities. And the fact that when we\u2019re looking at\u2014particularly women, in general, are also more likely going to get lower superannuation, as a result because of the fact that we do see things like the gender pay gap, we do see that a lot of our women are in unpaid care work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000580\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003ESo I think a lot of these just state that the importance of something like the New Zealand Superannuation Fund and what it could achieve and how it could provide for our people in Aotearoa. And with that, the Green Party commends this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000581\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002224fbf32149cc49adb4ee8bc47b8b77b9\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: This debate is interrupted and set down for resumption next sitting day.\u00A0The House stands adjourned until Tuesday\u2014sorry, I\u2019ll just turn the page over\u201430\u00A0April, 2 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000582\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003EDebate interrupted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000583\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 6.01 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id202404111fc556a6152b48dd84c7c760ad9847af000584\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"