"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022083d149043d540cb94040e83e7cb683b\u0022\u003ETUESDAY, 28 MAY 2024\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00229250331871e74d21b2dcf8ae3c4effbd\u0022\u003ETUESDAY, 28 MAY 2024\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000002\u0022\u003EThe Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000004\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00220235774161694c5e85494f453470e38a\u0022\u003EKarakia/Prayers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002227d2dd3cfd014b998169c87be195ea3b\u0022\u003EKarakia/Prayers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022db7fcb82-2c50-44e1-9f32-d9138c14006e\u0022 data-id=\u00226b71f5fe23f341f2883dff234f89beda\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022db7fcb82-2c50-44e1-9f32-d9138c14006e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226b71f5fe23f341f2883dff234f89beda\u0022\u003ELEMAUGA LYDIA SOSENE (Labour\u2014M\u0101ngere):\u003C/span\u003E Tatou ifo ma tatalo. Le Atua Silisili ese e, matou te sulaina lau Afio mo fa\u2019amanuiaga ma tofi ua e fa\u2019au\u2019uina ai i matou. E lafoa\u2019i ni o matou lagona ma manatua ta\u2019ito\u2019atasi i le amana\u2019iaina o le Masiofo o Peretania. Matou te tatalo ina ia tonu ma fa\u2019amaoni fuafuaga ma fa\u2019ai\u2019uga uma i totonu o lenei Maota Fono. Ia talosia ta\u2019ita\u2019i o lenei M\u0101l\u014D ina ia maua le t\u014Df\u0101 mamao, le fa\u2019apalepale ma le agamal\u016B, au\u0101 le manuia ma le filem\u016B o Niu Sila. O le matou tatalo lea, e ala atu i le suafa pele o Iesu Keriso. Amene.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f246eeabdaab4acbb836d7c9cdb21296\u0022\u003EPetitions, Papers, Select Committee Reports, and Introduction of Bills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c4832444a94c40bb9c50e052bf9e4ac9\u0022\u003EPetitions, Papers, Select Committee Reports, and Introduction of Bills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022b940843c6f6d4275ba2e6fcdfc7f5c97\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b940843c6f6d4275ba2e6fcdfc7f5c97\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022\u0022 data-id=\u0022daf9de28645f42deb9b56407898fc06e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022daf9de28645f42deb9b56407898fc06e\u0022\u003ECLERK\u003C/span\u003E: \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EPetition of Steven Price requesting that the House impose mandatory cumulative sentencing for the killing of more than one person\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Epetition of Bex Howells requesting that the House urge the Government to pay a stipend to people while they train in healthcare, education, and social work professions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022398746245e51475cb4cd766fedcdf31a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022398746245e51475cb4cd766fedcdf31a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Those petitions stand referred to the Petitions Committee. 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responding to an emergency, and \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereport of the Controller and Auditor-General Insights into local government: 2021\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereport of the Health Committee on its scrutiny plan for the 54th Parliament\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereports of the Justice Committee on the\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003ECorrections Amendment Bill, and the\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n  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id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereview briefing on the 2022-23 annual review of Outdoor Access Commission\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003Ereport of the Transport and Infrastructure Committee on its scrutiny plan for the 54th Parliament.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022caa35c0790e5447794cb258b4eb29540\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022caa35c0790e5447794cb258b4eb29540\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The bills are set down for second reading. The scrutiny plans, the briefings, and the report of the Controller and Auditor-General are set down for consideration. No bills have been introduced.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00223b2eae222ca04afeb823e5a3f97e1d7b\u0022\u003EUrgent Debates Declined\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022631469674c1b4c1d928a9f95f2a0ddf7\u0022\u003EEgypt-Israel Peace Treaty 1982\u2014New Zealand Deployment to Monitor\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022f3f25f360e964251bad92775cd061087\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f3f25f360e964251bad92775cd061087\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I have received a letter from the Hon Marama Davidson seeking to debate under Standing Order 399 the role of the New Zealand deployment to monitor the 1982 Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty. Not every ministerial announcement will give sufficient grounds for an urgent debate. I do not think that the two-year extension on such a long-term commitment warrants setting aside the business of the House today. The application is declined.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00226ee8834077ce4b769b2eac6891d035f4\u0022\u003EOral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00222bdd46989fbb458597df4761feffad3a\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c54e66fa1dd047438306b9f08e2e46fb\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 1\u2014Prime Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022 data-id=\u0022e7f61a949d22420dbca4277c5bf4a90d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e7f61a949d22420dbca4277c5bf4a90d\u0022\u003EDEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader\u2014Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Talofa e te P\u012Bka. Does he agree with all his Government\u2019s statements and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022 data-id=\u002276c30a7ab2a845b7b33ef5a485ea7080\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002276c30a7ab2a845b7b33ef5a485ea7080\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON (Prime Minister):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, and especially our commitment to support working families with the cost of living crisis through tax reduction. After 14 years, this is a Government that is finally delivering income tax relief to hard-working New Zealanders in the Budget. The last Government\u2019s response to inflation was more spending, more taxes, and more debt. We\u2019re getting wasteful spending under control so that we can rebuild the economy and get New Zealand back on track.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022342a52da736145969a56a73b973ac6a4\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: What did he mean when he stated on Waitangi Day 2024 that the obligations Te Tiriti imposes \u201Con both sides will always be with us.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002205ba89a32ab54f579a9019e1279894a4\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry, I didn\u2019t hear the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eafbd481bea94ea7afb7c47a177af342\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Repeat the question if you don\u2019t mind.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022054e4904aa674c0ba01cad0b3dceff70\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: What did he mean when he stated on Waitangi Day 2024 that the obligations Te Tiriti imposes \u201Con both sides will always be with us.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c7cd3a3ad9364b67bd85baa04b1ad293\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, just that\u2014that it\u2019s actually the founding document of New Zealand; we\u2019ll continue to honour it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c21d5ad7f52a4d23983ed1dc7b8a89a3\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: How is removing references to Treaty principles from over 40 pieces of legislation meeting his Tiriti obligations?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022103e4a43c013421a96d0f96b4ab953ca\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I think that question mischaracterises what we\u2019re doing. What we\u2019re asking for is, actually, making sure that when there are references to the Treaty in legislation, that it\u2019s actually very specific to the application of that legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bdd363d5b64243258322a3c327874754\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: How do policies such as the Fast-track Approvals Bill, the Treaty Principles Bill, the removal of section 7AA from the Oranga Tamariki Act, the ministerial alienation of te reo M\u0101ori, and the disestablishment of M\u0101ori wards and the M\u0101ori Health Authority meet the Crown\u2019s obligations to Te Tiriti o Waitangi?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002259d8e201f2a546da99f72b2ce38cb3b6\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I reject the characterisation of that question. What I\u2019d say to you is I could take each of those issues and say why we\u2019re making the changes that we are. We don\u2019t believe a M\u0101ori Health Authority actually delivers better health outcomes for M\u0101ori\u2014period. We think there\u2019s other ways to deal with that. We think we can do that through working and partnering with local iwi health organisations, as an example. So I just\u2014you know, that\u2019s our position, we\u2019re very clear about it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223b8757b4e5fb4b1289f39824abfcb028\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: What actions will his Government be taking to uphold his\u00A0obligations to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in response to Israel\u2019s continued assault on civilians and children in Rafah, including the murder of over 50\u00A0people last night?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022429aeb58efe4444b99273b79b36211e0\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I think you heard us declare in February\u2014and we partnered with both Australia and Canada at the time\u2014that we did not want to see Israel undertake military operations in Rafah, because it would have catastrophic implications and impact on people. Obviously, we are a country that upholds international law and we expect Israel to be compliant with the ICJ ruling.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002279e4d21b160643b9ba318a402a15a9db\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Is it the Prime Minister\u2019s view that MMP has delivered far greater representation of M\u0101ori in this Parliament than any other left-wing, woke idea or\u2014dare I say it\u2014ethnic preference idea?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022769a3190e56343c7a0bb5a9d812cad47\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m incredibly proud of the M\u0101ori representation we have in this Cabinet.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002247c4f2fdfd2447b7b27dee90de4dc2ae\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. I wonder, Mr Speaker, whether you\u00A0could indicate what ministerial responsibility the Prime Minister has for previous election results.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ee755e3877df437fa05b9cd1d46df026\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s very true\u2014he has none. But he was asked if he would reflect upon a situation, and I think the question, when it says \u201Call statements\u201D, \u201Call actions\u201D, etc., allows that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002258285674493d492f927ea1b7a05c6ab3\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 2\u2014Finance\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022 data-id=\u0022fb2ee25b3a684b02a479d6e1149855e6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022fb2ee25b3a684b02a479d6e1149855e6\u0022\u003ESTUART SMITH (National\u2014Kaik\u014Dura)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: What recent announcements has she made about the Budget?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022 data-id=\u002251883ee401164720a503477e52e465f9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002251883ee401164720a503477e52e465f9\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E Yesterday, I joined the Prime Minister to outline further details of the Budget 2024 savings programme. In the same way that households have adjusted their budgets and their spending, as a Government we have had to do the same. Ministers have gone line by line through the funding they are responsible for to evaluate whether it represents the best use of precious taxpayer dollars. As I said yesterday, this line-by-line process has uncovered more than 240 individual saving initiatives for inclusion in Budget 2024. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c4efffafee464981af211ae300290d00\u0022\u003EStuart Smith\u003C/span\u003E: What will the savings be used for?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221ebd1031-ea10-4c3d-bb56-2cd99528ae91\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223f3198360e1145c397e83f52b6db6bf0\u0022\u003EHon Willow-Jean Prime\u003C/span\u003E: Landlords. [Laughter]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226a8f54788bd641d7afcde0e3191db3f3\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: The savings will be used for two things\u2014the members opposite laugh at the New Zealanders who are paying higher rates of tax than they have in 14 years, because it\u2019s their view that they can always spend it better than New Zealanders can in their own families. But on this side of the House, we are making savings so that they can be both used to provide long overdue tax relief for hard-working New Zealanders and also be used to invest in Government priorities, including front-line services. On Thursday, members will see examples of careful reprioritisation in almost every area of Government, freeing up cash to go towards things\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221ebd1031-ea10-4c3d-bb56-2cd99528ae91\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002279c823265a0547f9852aeb452e016484\u0022\u003EHon Willow-Jean Prime\u003C/span\u003E: And all the children in Oranga Tamariki?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228aecc0424a284c44a9759fb8eb979b9a\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014like training additional teachers\u2014well, if the member opposite wants to talk about children, let\u2019s talk about the young people who will benefit from the Gumboot Friday mental health counselling session that her side of the House seems to oppose\u2014and additional funding for surf lifesavers. We are making active choices to stop some areas of spending so that we can redeploy those funds to better uses.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c4c1b7d6f3294697a9bc9f6a948d681b\u0022\u003EStuart Smith\u003C/span\u003E: Where have savings been made?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229c2886e7af7d484693faed663a3661be\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: That will be announced in the Budget, and I can tell the member that the Government has already announced decisions to stop some lower-value spending. This includes finding $442 million in savings at Corrections so we can reinvest in our prisons and front-line corrections officers; finding $99 million from within the New Zealand Defence Force to reinvest in defence personnel and equipment; stopping work on the income insurance scheme, another name for a job tax; stopping work on so-called industry transformation plans; stopping work on Lake Onslow; repealing the Clean Car Discount; exiting the Crown\u2019s contribution to Let\u2019s Get Wellington Moving, otherwise known as \u201CLet\u2019s Slow Wellington Down\u201D; and continuing the school lunch programme left unfunded by the outgoing Government, and delivering it in a way that saves taxpayers approximately $107 million a year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225ab381fd026e431ea589e946b6a7ab5c\u0022\u003EStuart Smith\u003C/span\u003E: What announcements has she made about the impact Budget 2024 will have on the job losses in the Public Service?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d3515315fda04b3b88c78f5c9b360271\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: The increase over the past six years in the number of back-office Public Service roles was unaffordable and needed to be reined back. According to the most recent advice I have received, the Government\u2019s baseline savings exercise will remove around 2,250 roles from Government departments, as well as closing around 1,150 vacancies. Further savings initiatives additional to our baseline exercise will remove a little over 500 roles. The number is subject to change and will remain so after Budget day. My heart goes out to anyone losing their job but Budget 2024 has required us to carefully reprioritise taxpayers\u2019 dollars. The members on the opposite side of the House seem to think there\u2019s a magic money tree at the end of the garden\u2014or at least, if it\u2019s not at the end of the garden, that magic money tree is New Zealand taxpayers whose pockets they never give up on fleecing. But we, on this side of the House, have reprioritised funding to support more workers on the front line, including nurses, doctors, police, teachers, and corrections officers. The list goes on, and I\u2019ll have more to say on Thursday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022612488055fa44e5c8c0812e4f53ef3f0\u0022\u003EHon David Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Will the Government stop trying to save New Zealanders money after this Thursday\u2019s Budget, or will it continue looking for ways to find efficiencies and do more with less for the benefit of hard-working Kiwis every day from the Budget onwards?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dce48c1cca65455cad0709eed670489a\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: What an excellent question from the Minister, because this is the new normal. We are a Government that every day, every week, every Budget will strive to make the most impact out of every taxpayer dollar. That\u2019s what New Zealanders do in their own household budgets, that\u2019s what small businesses do in their own businesses, and that\u2019s what a good Government should do too.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002262c11f9201784d1bace49145c7051af5\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 3\u2014Prime Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022 data-id=\u0022d000785b6b2d4dfaa9b743c38b22f908\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d000785b6b2d4dfaa9b743c38b22f908\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRIS HIPKINS (Leader of the Opposition)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Talofa lava. Does he agree with the then Leader of the Opposition, Christopher Luxon, who stated on 19\u00A0September 2023, regarding the National Party\u2019s proposed tax cuts, that \u201Cfor an average household income family with young kids, that would mean $250 a fortnight\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022 data-id=\u002215ae77af26ea4aeaaa9f359b209efe85\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002215ae77af26ea4aeaaa9f359b209efe85\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON (Prime Minister):\u003C/span\u003E In the context that that statement was made, yes, and I can confirm that this Government will be delivering tax relief in this year\u2019s Budget, supporting Kiwis with the cost of living, with more detail to come on Thursday. And like him\u2014though I don\u2019t agree with Labour\u2019s tax policy at the election; he\u2019s already flip-flopped on capital gains tax, and my bet is he\u2019s going to flip-flop on GST too.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022578b857bb03b416987d838563f9b7216\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: How many families will benefit from $250 a fortnight in tax cuts as a result of this year\u2019s Budget?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002273d848e7786c4b55b181965866692216\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: As your former finance Minister used to say, \u201CTwo more sleeps to go.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ec3cefbc14574771bd08da4f2004e894\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: How many extra dollars per week will a minimum-wage worker keep, thanks to his Government\u2019s tax cuts?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228129206154de4ca293929753233bd055\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Again, you\u2019ll have to wait till Thursday, but what I can say to that member is that this is a Government that believes, after 14 years, that working New Zealanders, low and middle income workers, the same people the Labour Party and the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions used to care about, actually need support. And I\u2019d just encourage that member and his party and say, vote for the tax relief that we\u2019re going to be delivering on Thursday evening.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022682d5557169349918a0945ee94081ae4\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Can he confirm that according to the National Party\u2019s own tax calculator, which has mysteriously been removed, minimum-wage workers can expect an additional $2 a week?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225fedf01ae7a942bba7753390a44d7849\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, again, the member will have to wait until Thursday, but what I appreciate is the question about the tax calculator, because I do want to say to the few people that are watching this broadcast today, get on board, go check out the official tax calculator on Thursday, and see how much benefit you\u2019re going to get.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cb4289351c7d456ca7b576053a3fe6f6\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: How many extra dollars per week will a typical property investor keep, thanks to the Government\u2019s tax cuts?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002251274d2df92a4a92a83874b097a882b5\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Again, that\u2019ll be dependent upon their individual circumstances, but what\u2019s great is that we have restored interest deductibility, we\u2019ve reduced the brightline test, and we\u2019re balancing laws between tenants and landlords so we get a greater supply of rental properties in the housing market.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ba0b9fe7f91b43f886123cf34a2cd5c1\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Can he confirm that a typical property investor can expect to keep an additional $288 per week per property, or 144 times what a minimum-wage worker can expect to keep?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a4736ced777f4a59a4226217ec1ba7fd\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, what I can confirm is that this is a Government that is going to solve the housing crisis, unlike his Government that had six years to do it and didn\u2019t deliver. We\u2019re here to deliver. We want an increase in supply in new houses being built, an increase in supply in rental properties, and an increase in supply in social housing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221da73b1900994371ae403f01f2d9a6d6\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Will he guarantee\u2014[Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002279aaf426ff6a494f8bd337d00b89f65d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Hang on. Wait on. Wait. OK.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022621ff8ad9ce14515a521cd698e44a9db\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Will he guarantee that this year\u2019s Budget will not lead the Reserve Bank to hike up interest rates again, leaving families worse off; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002274d174395b7f4755a3515b7f7e41ea9d\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, look, I really appreciate the member\u2019s interest in tax relief. It\u2019s the most animated I\u2019ve seen him discussing it. He had six years to deal with it. He didn\u2019t touch it at all. And I\u2019m just thinking of all those low and middle income workers out there that are working incredibly hard and still can\u2019t get ahead because of the economic vandalism and mismanagement that his Government created. And help is on the way on Thursday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fb01e7d75e904daa82fb00ce4b7ea9cd\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b239ea516cd640ddaeb99e84290569a4\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order\u2014I think I can anticipate\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002251dfa01283b14f2999d10d504291c94b\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Maybe I could just repeat it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bbedd793e7d2462c887df6aa448d7470\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Beg your pardon?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220a7ebedeeb8a4d3ea8d0475835686ecc\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Maybe I could just repeat it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002204578f44d674406ea76180e4ee2921eb\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I don\u2019t think you need to repeat the question, but I think the answer could be further elucidated.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221ce37e90102f475eaa09e3667f6373ab\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Very good.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f6f53f31db344cca827c864fee07d7a9\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Supplementary question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225a0f6190437c418486f225ced3fd710f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, the Prime Minister\u2019s going to\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002215318dc923b845acab51934c27720c29\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Can he repeat\u2014sorry, I missed\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022060a8fef91c04ab0928ec0895aea29f1\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: OK. Repeat the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002212f7a55d716d49e9bc073d3cb53fe852\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Will he guarantee that this year\u2019s Budget will not lead to the Reserve Bank hiking interest rates again, leaving families worse off; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220577cbe5ead24ba6a53eee9ddd518ccd\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: What I can say to him is our Budget is designed to lower Government spending, to lower inflation so we lower interest rates, get the economy growing, and we actually keep people in employment. The tragic reality of the previous administration was Government spending went up 84 percent, inflation hit an all-time high, interest rates hit an all-time high, the economy\u2019s in recession, and rising unemployment. The Reserve Bank has an independent\u2014we have an independent policy with the Reserve Bank.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dd6cefd5a2a64b909521a4f45cb290e7\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Can the Prime Minister assure the country that despite the economic crisis we inherited and despite the targeted expenditure and changes we\u2019ve made, we, nevertheless, are looking forward to a period where New Zealand will have more money in the economy than ever before but in the right places?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c1b130a9e8a84d47a2bf805e7ffa368f\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Absolutely. And I also appreciate the opportunity to help the member understand economics, which is when you increase spending, you increase domestic inflation; that lifts interest rates, that slows the economy down, and that raises unemployment. That\u2019s what we\u2019re trying to deal with. The root cause of the problem: inflation. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262b8609283f941148a20500cb83b0082\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I know that a few days before a Budget, the House is a little more animated than usual, but it\u2019s been particularly animated today. I\u2019d just suggest members keep it as calm as reasonably possible.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002289975fa1f9294e8b88b62ff6ee4d0ae7\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 4\u2014Prime Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022 data-id=\u00224e507979e7b24b04a7738a758c029cb4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224e507979e7b24b04a7738a758c029cb4\u0022\u003ECHL\u00D6E SWARBRICK (Co-Leader\u2014Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by his Government\u2019s statements and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022 data-id=\u0022135e84f4dd044406bceffcc0cfecd1e8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022135e84f4dd044406bceffcc0cfecd1e8\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON (Prime Minister):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, in the context they were given.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c3cf13f3c4db466d8d56187acdd48d3e\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Prime Minister believe that more coalmining and oil and gas drilling is consistent with a livable planet or meeting our climate goals, as he has said that he is committed to?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eb9b932d465349f4a6986606d7e3ad28\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, what I\u2019d just say to that member is I would encourage her to read an excellent speech given by the Minister for Resources, Shane Jones, in the last week. It\u2019s an actually thoughtful speech and it talks about the role that mining will play in New Zealand in helping us make that transition. Here\u2019s the deal: every electric vehicle (EV), every smartphone, every solar panel, every wind farm needs minerals. We can\u2019t just make them out of thin air.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fbd0b0ab7b6047d58205447ee2dee5f7\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: Is he aware that that very speech he\u2019s referencing of the Hon Shane Jones where he repeated the International Energy Agency\u2019s assessment that the world needs six times more rare minerals for green transition is premised on a rapid phase-out of fossil fuels and an end to coalmining?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022755c0f59e8d6443b9b370c960f9c3e0b\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Again, what I\u2019d say to you is that it\u2019s a very thoughtful speech and there\u2019s no way we can deliver our transition to a clean economy without minerals.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022856e07f0515246d8af0fe2f7ed8d4b5f\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: If he disagrees with the International Energy Agency and the independent Climate Change Commission and the world\u2019s top scientists that there is no future in fossil fuels or coalmining, from who is he actually getting his advice?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002200f652c324b44d728529b73dce4e09d1\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, look, I think the member would understand that actually mining is very important for helping us actually adopt EVs, to use smartphones, to adopt solar panels, and to make sure we get wind farms. We need minerals for that process and that transition.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002227fca151944e4fd8ae58d86f5815ec7d\u0022\u003EHon David Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Prime Minister have any advice for people who say they are opposed to mining but live a luxuriant lifestyle thanks to the benefit of it every single day of their life?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229e7e0fc26dba49b28643d0df0ec83b9f\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I\u2019d just encourage all leaders of political parties here in this House to support the oil and gas ban reversal and also support the fast-track legislation that\u2019s going through the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a50f30192c9c4a9882b23c8fc6625423\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with Standard \u0026amp; Poor\u2019s that \u201Cunabated mines face the risk of becoming stranded assets as the global economy works towards decarbonisation\u201D and his idea of \u201Ca modern, reliable infrastructure in New Zealand\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002221fae071ade04a03a58c9c3d13b8942c\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: I certainly agree with the last part of that question, which is I do want to see a modern, reliable infrastructure emerge here in New Zealand. That\u2019s why, again, I keep saying to the member that I encourage her and her party to support our fast-track legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022dbaac12b-3efa-4d95-a08d-f0f637a48bab\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a4355a3a3eb24514ad3800861187d40d\u0022\u003EChl\u00F6e Swarbrick\u003C/span\u003E: Does the Prime Minister think that sacrificing the habitat of the great spotted kiwi at the altar of coalmines is an accurate representation of his Government\u2019s economic and environmental policies?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d25e26c012af4052858c6cf0b15f542e\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Look, I reject the premise of that question, but what I\u2019d just say to that member is, look, here\u2019s the deal: we need minerals\u2014we need critical minerals\u2014in order to make the transition to a clean future. That\u2019s all that the Minister was putting out on the table in an excellent speech last week. I encourage all members to read it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222f0ebefc258f42fe8bdbdde1bd9885dd\u0022\u003EHon David Seymour\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Prime Minister aware that the ability to hold up colour laser-printed images all day, every day, in Parliament is reliant on a vast array of materials, from printer toner to the metal in the printer to the fibre-optic cables that transmitted the signal\u2014you name it, it all comes from mining\u2014and would the words \u201Chypocritical actions\u201D come to the Prime Minister\u2019s mind?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fdc1edcbc9884aeb9d46f98edece44be\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: I want to thank the Minister for his question and just say the irony was not lost on me.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aca605afca3e49ff88011bacaaed00c3\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Prime Minister\u2014[Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022edf23d4e0c75463089cb13dcb187f66e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Hang on. Wait on. Just listen. I know it\u2019s exciting\u201448 hours to go\u2014but just hold it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002226e60e9e959142f68e06a17d8a16fd96\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Prime Minister aware, in terms of the setting of future policy, that the latest records show that the Green MPs have the highest aviation expenditure record of every party in Parliament?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cd40a8266d1b4afabc0c57c2feb4c7d0\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No\u2014no responsibility. No responsibility for that. [Interruption] When you\u2019re ready\u2014question No. 5 in the name of Rima Nakhle. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a5c2d97a6cbe4393a5ddb5dcb24d88ef\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 5\u2014Housing\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022 data-id=\u0022132e5810adaf4d2ab28aab2f753a3f59\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022132e5810adaf4d2ab28aab2f753a3f59\u0022\u003ERIMA NAKHLE (National\u2014Takanini)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Housing: What announcements has he made regarding social housing places?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u0022ed1dc6329bde41b48e9dd5527a935bab\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ed1dc6329bde41b48e9dd5527a935bab\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Minister of Housing)\u003C/span\u003E: Last week, I was proud to announce that Budget 2024 allocates $140 million to funding 1,500 new social homes. This investment underlines the Government\u2019s commitment to housing New Zealanders in need in a fiscally sustainable way. We will be funding these places to community housing providers. They do an outstanding job housing people in need, currently providing over 13,000 social houses around New Zealand, and they have the capability, expertise, and desire to grow further. We\u2019re committed to growing the social housing sector.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002253e59b4b92a8466ba94a9088dee40c93\u0022\u003ERima Nakhle\u003C/span\u003E: When will he prioritise these new social housing places?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229c069cdb-968c-4f11-b126-92f9c655148b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221956496577604b788d15ee9aa55d5ac9\u0022\u003EShanan Halbert\u003C/span\u003E: 10 years\u2019 time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b98ba7c8cbd14205ac3e5c19edded216\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: No, in the next two years\u2014you should listen up, mate; I\u00A0answered that last week. Currently, social housing is procured from community housing providers on a project by project basis. What we have said is that around 500\u00A0new homes of the 1,500 will be allocated quickly, using the existing pipeline of community housing provider opportunities, with three objectives in mind: firstly, value for money from Government investment; secondly, contributing towards our target of getting people out of emergency housing motels; and a balanced approach between achievability and building capability in historically underserved regions. In short, this means we will be prioritising social housing places where it will make the biggest difference and get people out of motels.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224a5999cfa8b2459f8aa64efea9c13eac\u0022\u003ERima Nakhle\u003C/span\u003E: What about the rest of the 1,500 new places?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228a078abd60a742bdb6aa1767c63aa94f\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: The balance of the 1,500 places, which will be about a thousand, will likely be allocated using an active-purchaser approach, which officials will be developing throughout the rest of 2024. This is a concept developed in the independent review of K\u0101inga Ora, and it refers to the Government developing a much more sophisticated understanding of current and future housing needs at a national, regional, and cohort level; taking a social-investment approach to improving housing outcome; and, potentially, outcome-based contracts. Subject to ministerial agreement, officials will be looking at developing longer-term strategic partnerships with some community housing providers to achieve specific social and housing outcomes, rather than looking at single proposals one by one.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002277d996052f8f46f987e655a28b5c6c49\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 6\u2014Finance\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022 data-id=\u002224015d205cf74184ade5f045e8778cd2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002224015d205cf74184ade5f045e8778cd2\u0022\u003EHon BARBARA EDMONDS (Labour\u2014Mana)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: Malo le soifua manuia, Mr Speaker. Does she stand by her statement, \u201CThese savings and revenue initiatives are the same as those in the National Party\u2019s tax plan, with some adjustments to reflect coalition agreements\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022 data-id=\u00221ff620e879554b46929671bb769bd316\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221ff620e879554b46929671bb769bd316\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS (Minister of Finance):\u003C/span\u003E I stand by the full statement I made in question time last Tuesday, which was, \u201CTax relief in the Budget will be fully funded through savings and revenue initiatives. These savings and revenue initiatives are the same as those in the National Party\u2019s tax plan, with some adjustments to reflect coalition agreements. There will also be other savings in the Budget [and] these savings will be directed towards Government priorities, including front-line public services.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d82e069c8cfc41e4a303dc5a9729c5be\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: Where in the coalition agreement does it say that the international visitor levy will increase?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225974c70ac0864e0d8334390d7b5c7332\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: It doesn\u2019t.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022882d0638215440afba41ab67c27c415e\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: Where in the coalition agreement does it say that she will introduce or consider a tax on utes as outlined in advice received by the Minister of Revenue?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228f1436eb98c641abbe666fa7d6699175\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s not being considered. Now, I can see that the member is very interested in the funding of our tax plan. So what I want to announce to the House is that those interested in that can look forward to the Budget matters document, which will be released on Thursday. I can advise the member that\u2014I think it\u2019s page 3 or 4 of that document\u2014there will be an itemised outline of the savings and revenue measures being used to support our fully funded tax package that\u2019s going to put cash back in the pockets of hard-working Kiwis.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d32c3b2421914503a52a955e219274f6\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: Will she commit to funding the 13 new cancer treatments promised in her fiscal plan; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ddb089e4b99141dba33635f85730c29f\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: I have told that member a few times over the last few weeks that she will have to await Budget day to find the full set of commitments that we are progressing. There\u2019s two comments that I would make. The first is we are a Government that was left with a massive hole where funding for the Pharmac budget should have been\u2014they left massive fiscal cliffs so that we have already announced our commitment to a $1.8 billion boost for Pharmac. The second thing I would say is that across the coalition agreements that the National, New Zealand First, and ACT parties have formed, there are a number of commitments and not all of them will be delivered in our first Budget.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b706f52c2a7e442bbbee1b54ad4cb339\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: Will the Minister be hosting a social services budget lock-up this year; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ecbc3ac0a9a240cebdc323a1c17a3575\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: No.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261725fea-7d5e-4d1f-8fd3-e5779bb7a14d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002284c132e9992e45149fef622e8683bfca\u0022\u003EHon Barbara Edmonds\u003C/span\u003E: Has she taken down the tax calculator because she knows New Zealanders will not receive the $250 per fortnight in tax cuts that they had promised?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222cea8bc506a44e8280d80b30423e20df\u0022\u003EHon NICOLA WILLIS\u003C/span\u003E: No. There will be an official Government tax calculator. It will be hosted on the Treasury website, it will be available from 2 p.m. on Thursday, and you should go and check it out.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022311990782fb6462a9f7bfae708a57302\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022311990782fb6462a9f7bfae708a57302\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Question\u2014[Interruption] Just wait for a minute. When are you ready? [Interruption] Do you want to take the conversation outside? [Interruption] All right, so we\u2019ll just try for a bit of quiet and have question No. 7 from Laura Trask.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022607a78f1c6f745a9975186a5332e054c\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 7\u2014Education\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022 data-id=\u0022f5e335956fc8486e807fb7d36096e9d4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f5e335956fc8486e807fb7d36096e9d4\u0022\u003ELAURA TRASK (ACT)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Education: What progress has he made in making student attendance data more available?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022 data-id=\u00229fc27664edb748aea7a09e130d42c388\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229fc27664edb748aea7a09e130d42c388\u0022\u003EHon DAVID SEYMOUR (Associate Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E On 7 May, I announced a new online data dashboard which makes daily attendance data available to the public and parents in a more timely way. The interactive dashboard will be updated once a week to show a national average and also regional breakdowns of how many students attended school each and every day. [Turns laptop toward members of the House]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b262b492d7ff4c82ba3480a8dc0e172f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I can\u2019t see that from here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b9bed14d50e94764a660dcc3e614ac27\u0022\u003EHon DAVID SEYMOUR\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Speaker, I\u2019m sure that you should have gone to Specsavers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002203732f5dfee04c3580fc9b63f54d6e1d\u0022\u003ELaura Trask\u003C/span\u003E: How will publishing attendance data help improve school attendance?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002217bb7cebfb2a42838efaaf93f606f9a1\u0022\u003EHon DAVID SEYMOUR\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it is critical that we create a sense of national focus on what is perhaps one of our biggest long-term problems in New Zealand\u2014not enough students attending school. Publishing the data each week for daily attendance creates that focus but also allows us to better understand the data. So far this term, we\u2019ve seen that there is a real problem with fewer students attending each Friday. We\u2019ve also seen a gradual decline in attendance over the last four weeks, which we might attribute to the winter season where more and more people have been calling in sick. Understanding this kind of data, while not currently encouraging, will allow us to take a more proactive approach to increasing attendance. I\u2019d also like to point out that in the last week to Friday 24, 90.8 percent of schools reported their data voluntarily, and this is a fabulous development. It started off closer to 85 percent. We\u2019re now at nearly 91 percent of schools voluntarily reporting their data. We will aim for 100 percent when it becomes mandatory next year. But we are finally being honest about the problem, getting the data required to solve it proactively so that we can get students back to school, which is far more than the previous Government did, where Jan Tinetti was\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022510b793fe80c4ef680165d2445986fb4\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s enough, thank you. If you want more questions, that\u2019s enough. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b6b6b75d407445ec88e00ab54ea975db\u0022\u003ELaura Trask\u003C/span\u003E: What is the daily attendance rate that schools should aspire to?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227e22bb95-9afb-449c-bcd2-de9fd4f2277c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f732c9cf489d47d2a3bd4b05319c4d8c\u0022\u003EHon DAVID SEYMOUR\u003C/span\u003E: This Government has set a goal that by 2030, 80 percent of students will be attending school at least 90 percent of the time. That compares with term 4 last year, when only 46 percent reached that target, and term 1 this year, where the figure was closer to 53. To get to 80 is going to be an enormous effort and that\u2019s why it is paced out over the coming six years. However, the question was in relation to daily attendance rate. When you have 80 percent of students attending 90 percent of the time, you actually require a daily rate of approximately 94 percent. I\u2019ll also just correct what I\u00A0said earlier; I was relaying term 3 and 4 last year, not term 4 last year and term 1 this year in the earlier part of my answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022347a50f954684b708717ded5f21569c9\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ll just remind the Minister that this is question time for relatively concise answers, not long dissertations that might be more in the nature of a general debate speech. Laura Trask. No more? Oh, OK, that makes it better.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227d9b507df78148ffa0f8d9ba86a72bf8\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 8\u2014Housing\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022 data-id=\u00227b98d1cb71e64c00997f6fb20fc737ad\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227b98d1cb71e64c00997f6fb20fc737ad\u0022\u003EHon KIERAN McANULTY (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Housing: Talofa lava, Mr Speaker. Does he stand by his statement that the review into K\u0101inga Ora was \u201Cthorough\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u00222eb91438285349d1b825df27dd42962e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222eb91438285349d1b825df27dd42962e\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Minister of Housing):\u003C/span\u003E Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dab51fce47aa48b98d90dfaea224151b\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: How is it thorough when the organisation under review has stated, \u201CThere was relatively limited engagement with our organisation, leading to some review conclusions appearing to be based on analysis informed by anecdotes rather than independently considering the performance of the organisation.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222467b5fc89294340bfcb2db9219222d5\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, that, unsurprisingly, is K\u0101inga Ora\u2019s perspective. I prefer the findings of the independent review.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022060e028b6ffa413c938e523e2218304b\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: How is it thorough\u2014[Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225c3ed4b8021642fdad88290b66eed342\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Just wait for quiet. OK.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea2d33e718e24627a6573a05ee29f22d\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: How is it thorough when he in paragraph 56 of the relevant Cabinet paper omitted that there were serious and credible concerns raised in K\u0101inga Ora\u2019s response, instead stating, \u201Cthe Board is broadly comfortable with the review recommendations\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022baba9e6287994dc0bb355248214d1b07\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Because, unsurprisingly, I didn\u2019t agree with K\u0101inga Ora\u2019s perspective on the review.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229ae488dd4d694f379c4802a763e1dc0d\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: When did he approach Sir Bill English to chair the review into K\u0101inga Ora?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d92e708d7b9541828b701eeeee597bd7\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Sir Bill and I talked soon after the election about whether or not he could help out in reviewing K\u0101inga Ora. Ultimately, that is what happened, alongside two other very credible and expert reviewers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b3b4fb024c234898a8671523b1ebf761\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: Did he advise Sir Bill English not to involve K\u0101inga Ora in the review?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228c8c3c2ee00e4e73b57df5cefe77f795\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: No, and they were involved in the review. He met with K\u0101inga Ora alongside community housing providers, a range of people in the social sector, developers, and builders across a range of organisations in the social sector.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022175d15ef075043a18f793abf9ff15f47\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: How can he be confident this was a credible report when it ignored serious and credible concerns raised by K\u0101inga Ora, the details of which were omitted in the Cabinet paper, and he instructed the review not to involve K\u0101inga Ora?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220d166618f591494f9dbe516b1cf0f6c6\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, there are a number of factual inaccuracies there. Firstly, I didn\u2019t ask the reviewers not to involve K\u0101inga Ora\u2014you should have listened to my last answer. The reviewers did talk to K\u0101inga Ora. And in relation to the first part of his question, the concerns that the member relays as apparently or purportedly credible and serious are not credible and serious. I appreciate that the member wishes to defend the record of K\u0101inga Ora under the last Government; this Government has a different attitude to that, and the public can see for itself the financial disaster that is that organisation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f12da0af-dc73-4870-8f77-1d50a75eb44c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e1c98883b98e4f6faf9cb01d863de5ec\u0022\u003EHon Nicola Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Would it be fair to say that K\u0101inga Ora\u2019s perception of itself and its unblemished excellence is somewhat different from the perception that communities have of K\u0101inga Ora\u2019s approach to stakeholder engagement, is somewhat different from the approach harassed tenants have of the way K\u0101inga Ora deals with those matters, is somewhat different from the perception that those in the building and construction industry have from K\u0101inga Ora\u2019s gold-plated approach to development, and is it in fact the case that the only people defending K\u0101inga Ora are the Labour Party?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bbb5b2d4762e44379b59a5ec7e8b84f7\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The Minister may answer only one of those questions, but not the last one.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002228ffde1230cd49f9b2108c0947309bcb\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, one of the great tragedies of the last few years is that the social\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022853c7dfc96394eeda5f4be61a04b478b\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: This Government!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022489a763048f5479faf2b7a43c29d637a\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: We\u2019ve been in office for six months; you really want to talk about your six years\u2014good grief! One of the great tragedies of the last few years is that the social licence for social housing, which plays a very important role in housing vulnerable New Zealanders, has been eroded due to K\u0101inga Ora. Our Government seeks to rebuild the social licence to house vulnerable people in communities and make sure they have a warm, dry home. That\u2019s the focus of our Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002227f370b2b545482caefb0f0dacba9a4f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Just wait for the House to go quiet.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022352f22f1b1a14e3b80031bc1accbf3f9\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Can I ask the Minister as to why should the M\u0101ori people and the M\u0101ori language suffer the ignominy of a disastrous housing policy and a name given to it by someone else in this Parliament?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223e1b06efc0044f51b1fc8e8e42e8bfdc\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, just\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002267a65e298812417599fd0409deb8b586\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: If you want to make it clear\u2014one more time\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262f5cd3e6b3b49ba9ce8aedfadbb8c09\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, no. My point was I actually didn\u2019t hear what you were saying. Those microphones don\u2019t tend to come back this way. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ee664122a0fd43228da0a41cf9c6eeee\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m very sorry. Could the Minister advise us as to why the M\u0101ori people, and, dare I say it, the esteem of the M\u0101ori language, have suffered from the ignominy of a disastrous housing policy such as K\u0101inga Ora, which has seen so many people without a home in a country they thought they could get a home in?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221f8a9e96f99d45e6b83ec9d09dd2cdeb\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, sadly, the name K\u0101inga Ora has become synonymous up and down the country with poor housing outcomes and a poorly performing organisation. That is the tragedy and that\u2019s my point around the erosion of social licence. This Government is committed to social housing for New Zealanders in a financially sustainable, fiscally responsible way, and in a way that partners with the community sector and people actually on the ground who need support and who are out there doing the mahi and doing such an important job for New Zealanders. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c9eb265f906948349305db5db87d62c3\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 9\u2014Prime Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022 data-id=\u0022d1df060740794a1d9f004fab95c50dab\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d1df060740794a1d9f004fab95c50dab\u0022\u003EHon MARAMA DAVIDSON (Co-Leader\u2014Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by his Government\u2019s statements and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022 data-id=\u002221782fc154c24c9ca0088e5438a4dd24\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002221782fc154c24c9ca0088e5438a4dd24\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON (Prime Minister):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, and in the context they were given.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c632a1e86c0f439f993babff81e9c5a5\u0022\u003EHon Marama Davidson\u003C/span\u003E: Does he stand by his statement that \u201Cwe have well-established processes for managing ministerial conflicts of interest\u201D, and, if so, how many times have those \u201Cwell-established processes\u201D been used during the development of the Fast-track Approvals Bill?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002205e01fc18e854cd5914de815132cd2fe\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Yes, we do. And as I said before, and as you\u2019ve heard the Minister for Infrastructure say, the process is before select committee. If there\u2019s any sensible builds and improvements that can be made to the legislation, we\u2019ll happily take that on board. But we make no apologies for adapting something that David Parker brought in the previous Government to actually fast-track and get things done in this country. We\u2019re going to build things.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022df7006dbab6648e689a1e575017c58af\u0022\u003EHon Marama Davidson\u003C/span\u003E: Was a process for managing perceived or real conflicts of interest used in relation to the previously undisclosed dinner Minister Jones had with coalmining executives, including those from Te Kuha coalmine project, and, if not, why\u00A0not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220c024442717148a7bbd7e28ee8c5e612\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: What I\u2019d just say to the member is that we\u2019ve got a bill that\u2019s through the select committee process right now. We\u2019re taking feedback in the select committee process to see if it can be strengthened. If there\u2019s anything that people think that we can improve, we\u2019re happy to take that on board. But I make no apologies. We are going to stop the talking and we\u2019re going to get things done in this country. New Zealanders are expecting us to deliver more infrastructure, more windfarms, more renewable energy. And I keep calling on that member and her party to support this legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002288d648c30dd14199856cafa3b21c1505\u0022\u003EHon Marama Davidson\u003C/span\u003E: Was a process for managing perceived or real conflicts of interest used for the Minister for Oceans and Fisheries\u2019 dinners with fishing executives who may be looking to use the fast-track consenting process and who have previously donated to Minister Jones\u2019 election campaigns, and, if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a11a471f92b1426293e790523bd764f9\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I reject the premise of the question. We have processes in place to manage conflicts. But, most importantly, we are going to get this fast-track legislation done because it matters to New Zealanders. It improves the economic productivity of this country, it improves social outcomes, and it improves environmental outcomes too.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226dc8e4693b59479a92b65ab7746c6cbe\u0022\u003EHon Marama Davidson\u003C/span\u003E: Will the Prime Minister commit to changing the Fast-track Approvals Bill so that the panel has ultimate decision-making powers to prevent any conflicts of interest in decision making, considering a Minister in his Cabinet was lobbied by the mining industry before the bill was even introduced?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c8999f570cd14a9692cf44f066324a56\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, again, the member didn\u2019t listen to my earlier answers to earlier questions which was that the Minister for Infrastructure has said that he is open to sensible changes to the legislation that can improve it. But, again, I\u00A0make no apologies. We are going to get things done because we\u2019re not going to spend the time like the last six years of a Labour-Greens Government that just talked a lot, a lot of bumper stickers, and didn\u2019t get stuff done. New Zealanders want delivery; they want things to happen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002205d31f5b7454423d84e57a8db59bc074\u0022\u003EHon Marama Davidson\u003C/span\u003E: What would constitute a conflict of interest under the Cabinet Manual if none of these instances from his Ministers warrant concerns from the Prime Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225c0e6735c5884cdbb6fe39a129e2d058\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: Look, again, I just say to the member: we have policies, as you well know, through the Cabinet Office for managing conflicts, perceived or real. I would just encourage that member maybe to think and focus on managing her own personnel, not ours.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e5623e3be6f4452eb816a89b3cdff83f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Supplementary question\u2014the Rt Hon Winston Peters. The House will hear the question in silence.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f3d5cb649f6e430d89b807ccab5b507f\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: Did any of your Ministers get $350,000 in taxpayers\u2019 charity money, fail to declare it, and when challenged, shouted by way of defence \u201CThat\u2019s racism.\u201D\u2014did any of your Ministers commit that sin?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ea31fdd3-90e9-47d7-92a4-20b6a3109eef\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220ea335e7242b41319ba21cc2835cbb90\u0022\u003ERt Hon CHRISTOPHER LUXON\u003C/span\u003E: No. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002272998f438dc04746ad108f0f0e160e66\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Question No. 10\u2014Carl Bates. Just wait for a few minutes. [Interruption] OK, we\u2019ll try now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000208\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a242e9d6db57461d892a073c84ce585a\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 10\u2014Education\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022 data-id=\u00221c5b4dc6214d4481b036bcb28ea1aa3f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221c5b4dc6214d4481b036bcb28ea1aa3f\u0022\u003ECARL BATES (National\u2014Whanganui)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Education: What recent pre-Budget education announcements has she made?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022 data-id=\u0022810d7572038b4bd8b7012f96ddeb04e4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022810d7572038b4bd8b7012f96ddeb04e4\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD (Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E Last week, I announced $53\u00A0million over the next four years to attract, train, and retain teachers\u2014the greatest asset that we have in our education system and an essential part of our plan to lift student achievement. This investment will support an additional 1,500 teachers into the workforce and help to give our kids a world-leading education. Budget 2024 is unashamedly about the front line, and you don\u2019t get more front line in education than the teachers who stand at the front of the classroom every day, shaping the lives of our young people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022476dbe899d0340f5b5894bc5ce9b71bf\u0022\u003ECarl Bates\u003C/span\u003E: Why is investment in teacher training a priority for this Government?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002241c6020da8ca4047a7ea9090c39629a6\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Multiple recent reports indicate that the system is letting teachers down. Newly graduated teachers do not feel confident, supported, or prepared for the classroom. We\u2019re also faced with a projected shortage of up to 680 secondary school teachers in the next three years. The Education Review Office (ERO) found that half of our\u00A0graduating teachers felt unprepared for the classroom. This Government is listening. Lifting achievement means investing in our teachers and improving the delivery of initial teacher education and developing the workforce of the future, and that is a priority for this Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002273b8bb68612b4aedae9686f7188c2165\u0022\u003ECarl Bates\u003C/span\u003E: What will this investment in the front line deliver?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022364f2953c6524abcbe0e46ab9446290e\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: This funding includes 1,200 new on-site teacher-training places, a stipend for the trainees, contribution towards their tuition fees, and funding to support host schools. ERO recently reported that trainees who spend two or more days per week in schools were more prepared to enter the classroom upon graduation. On-site training provides an opportunity to spend more time in the classroom and to incentivise people with\u00A0specialist skills and high-quality graduates to consider training as a teacher while receiving a stipend towards their cost of living and having their fees contributed to. We\u2019re also investing in relocation grants for an additional 300 overseas teachers, supports for schools in early childhood education with teacher recruitment costs, and 670\u00A0scholarships and awards for teachers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226ba3f579d84c42419e8da7b9afe61485\u0022\u003ECarl Bates\u003C/span\u003E: What feedback has she seen about this announcement?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222dc9038de98e49cb8a9e1cc3a437f898\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ve received strong support from the education sector. Post Primary Teachers\u2019 Association president, Chris Abercrombie, said, \u201CIn-class training is a really good option and it\u2019s a really good step from the Government to be looking at addressing the supply issue.\u201D One new teacher, Hugo Miller, said, \u201CI would have loved [to have spent] more time in schools.\u201D\u2014during his in-class training\u2014\u201CI really took so much away from that and from the guidance of a mentor teacher or an associate teacher.\u201D, and David Ferguson, the principal of Westlake Boys High School, said that their experience with on-site training was a real success. He also said, \u201CWe think by exposing trainees to more in-class practising, watching really good teachers teach, that\u2019s a better way of preparing them than being at university full time.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002267c4276d58da4d2a803e2f6fc5ceca54\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 11\u2014Education\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022 data-id=\u0022e08dd3ab4951456aa76cd0f5ca1eef29\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e08dd3ab4951456aa76cd0f5ca1eef29\u0022\u003EHon JAN TINETTI (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Education: Talofa, Mr Speaker. How many, if any, teachers will lose their jobs due to cuts to Reading Recovery?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022 data-id=\u00221977423e4a244f719d53d0e654aabfa4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221977423e4a244f719d53d0e654aabfa4\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD (Minister of Education):\u003C/span\u003E I recently announced $67\u00A0million of investment into structured literacy approaches to ensure that Kiwi kids are learning to read using evidence-based approaches proven to lift achievement and close the equity gap. As a result of this, reading-recovery contracts due to expire at the end of this year will not be renewed as this Government commits to consistent use of best practice in our schools. Teaching staff who are employed under the ministry-allocated 271 full-time equivalent reading-recovery roles have already been offered the opportunity to retrain using structured approaches to literacy, and many have already taken up this offer. The ministry advise that, therefore, current reading-recovery teachers may not necessarily lose their jobs.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225e0b1bd1188248afa1eeafafacf70ab3\u0022\u003EHon Jan Tinetti\u003C/span\u003E: How many children will lose access to reading recovery as a result of cuts to the reading recovery programme and its teachers?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c719a7a2ef664fbba561218132c896cc\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, good news: this Government is introducing a tier 2 and 3, which is small group and one-on-one interventions using structured literacy so all children at primary school who are falling behind in their reading will have access to proven methods of intervention consistent with classroom teaching and structured literacy intervention.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f3fce7b76e45474f838f5c3a85acd0ba\u0022\u003EHon Jan Tinetti\u003C/span\u003E: Is the Minister aware of the Government\u2019s own report that found that children who partake in the reading recovery programme made double the normal progress expected; if so, why is she cutting the successful programme?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002243e8efc98b254baa9dc4a81076b974e8\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: I will not continue to fund a programme that, at the core of its philosophy, believes in teaching children the habits of poor readers. That research that that member is quoting is taking a look at reading recovery compared to what they\u2019re doing now, which is a little sprinkling of structured literacy. So what we know is when you do structured literacy, you get better results. So how about we just do structured literacy and see what happens, because we know the evidence backs that up.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225c085c67f9034b9ebe9eda6e54ccdd60\u0022\u003EHon Jan Tinetti\u003C/span\u003E: What does she say, then, to Professor Janet Gaffney, who led the introduction of reading recovery at Illinois successfully, where structured literacy programmes were the programmes of the day, and said, \u201CBecause reading recovery teachers plan based on the child\u2019s strengths, it doesn\u2019t matter what classroom programme is happening, the individual nature of the remedial programme means that observation and assessment drive the teaching.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002248c60b6331cf4397aa851dae0f53fe0c\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ll go back to my main point that I made in my last answer. At the heart of reading recovery, they believe in teaching children the habits of poor readers. The three-cueing system: look at the picture, guess the word. Those are the habits of poor readers. We know from all of the evidence from structured literacy in-class teaching that the need for remedial reading drops by up to two-thirds. So we know that structured literacy is the approach that\u2019s going to work for most of our kids. I would also like to quote a very\u00A0learned person, in fact a very learned teacher, who said that structured literacy was one of the best things that she had seen in her lifetime of teaching. And that person was Jan Tinetti. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229da56058e4f74743ae74b7d1928e710b\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s enough.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ee0e7b165084402486a56d480e3d10cd\u0022\u003EHon Jan Tinetti\u003C/span\u003E: Will she guarantee that any future remedial reading programme will be funded at the same amount as reading recovery and have the same, if not better, results than reading recovery?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229a95414f74484f5898fffc1e75848be8\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Absolutely.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022299d5b68f22c4969b0ac69598f13b6f3\u0022\u003EKatie Nimon\u003C/span\u003E: What has she heard from parents about the shift away from reading recovery interventions towards structured literacy?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002285cc076fe8e046879c0c04f909d7022d\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: What a timely question. I was in the airport at Wellington yesterday heading down to see the Secondary Principals\u2019 Association of New Zealand conference people, and I was approached by a mother whose young son, she told me, had dyslexia. In year 8, he was reading between a year 1 and year 2 level. With a structured literacy intervention, he gained that entire primary school\u2014six years of reading\u2014so that he was ready to start high school, using a structured literacy intervention. That is the result I want to see for all Kiwi kids who are falling behind in their reading\u2014evidence-based structured literacy approaches that are proven to work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229eef65cd-ce82-441c-af1b-954ea0782a04\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c38f41ed7f564534a8e9efafecb060e3\u0022\u003EHon Jan Tinetti\u003C/span\u003E: What does she say to Paula, who is one of the very many reading recovery teachers who have contacted me and will be losing her job at the end of the year, who says, \u201CWhy would you take trained teachers away from those students who need them the most?\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228543db7ec01842d6a11aa18fd64680fc\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: Well, my message to that woman is firstly, thank you so much for being a teacher. We value you. The ministry has already contacted all of those reading recovery teachers, offered them retraining in evidence-based structured literacy, and many of them are taking that up. So what I would say to that teacher is \u201CPlease take up the opportunity to retrain in structured literacy and be part of the tier 2 and tier 3 interventions using a structured literacy method.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221bf32f13e4b84d9fa93292e8ddbd107b\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: To the rescue.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002271902daf39a940518a5495a725d10358\u0022\u003EHon Chris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Do\u2014ha, ha!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c1c17c1b1f2d48818ddda31963b6cc1a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Is that a question?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022506b9875964e45c899027b203fa2caba\u0022\u003EHon Chris Bishop\u003C/span\u003E: Does the structured literacy method teach children, for example, to sound out and say the sentence \u201CShooting fish in a barrel.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e439b4c72233400aa76f4bb8406b24d8\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: We\u2019ll go to Dr Carlos Cheung.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002210576112fbf2442d94965e6ce9d8a6ea\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 12\u2014Mental Health\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022587eeeae-8af5-4e11-ac7f-a7690f9c7c3a\u0022 data-id=\u0022bcd68dfa1a7c49dca3aa1aca620e77ef\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022587eeeae-8af5-4e11-ac7f-a7690f9c7c3a\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bcd68dfa1a7c49dca3aa1aca620e77ef\u0022\u003EDr CARLOS CHEUNG (National\u2014Mt Roskill)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Mental Health: What comments has he seen regarding his recent announcement about Gumboot Friday?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022 data-id=\u00226ed3be05282f44a192d62c163066aae8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226ed3be05282f44a192d62c163066aae8\u0022\u003EHon MATT DOOCEY (Minister for Mental Health):\u003C/span\u003E Budget 2024 will provide $24\u00A0million over four years to contract the I Am Hope Foundation to provide young people aged between five to 25 years with free mental health counselling services through the Gumboot Friday initiative. This will enable Gumboot Friday to provide more than 15,000 young New Zealanders access to free mental health counselling services each year. We know that mental health issues are one of the biggest issues facing New Zealanders each year. This announcement will play a vital role in enabling young people with mild to moderate mental health needs to access counselling services earlier. So that\u2019s why it was heartening to read so many supportive comments about this announcement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022587eeeae-8af5-4e11-ac7f-a7690f9c7c3a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224591382f76da4dbe8346c8e9c2e6d721\u0022\u003EDr Carlos Cheung\u003C/span\u003E: What other comments has he seen?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226920d200a4694f4fa3635c624b37378e\u0022\u003EHon MATT DOOCEY\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m advised MPs\u2019 inboxes and social media accounts have been overwhelmed with positive feedback following this announcement. Comments I\u2019ve read include Melanie from Thames, who commented, \u201CGreat. There are a lot that need it too. Get behind the initiatives that are already working.\u201D Rachel from Wellington said, \u201CThis is fantastic news. This is a great investment in our young people.\u201D Finally, Sandy commented, \u201CThis is a wonderful organisation, and much kudos to Mike King for hanging in there. Great to see my tax going to a worthy cause.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022587eeeae-8af5-4e11-ac7f-a7690f9c7c3a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f55030f7f32b4ecc8addbbc355f55a7c\u0022\u003EDr Carlos Cheung\u003C/span\u003E: Do any comments stand out for him?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022242e5a3a37ef400bb10c7efee4ff6e56\u0022\u003EHon MATT DOOCEY\u003C/span\u003E: Yes. One prominent New Zealander who was a self-described Labour supporter and donor said, \u201CThe issue here needs to be focused on the\u00A0fact that every cent that has been given to Gumboot Friday will be going to consultations for young people at the earliest signs of potential mental health issues. This is the ambulance at the top of the cliff rather than at the bottom, and there is a huge need for that.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225fdad5bd21e2481bbdcbdb3c8a34bca4\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. I take it by your silence that you\u2019re ruling that it\u2019s OK for Ministers to refer to someone\u2019s donor status in an answer. Therefore, is it OK for the Opposition to question someone\u2019s donor status in a question? Because if it\u2019s acceptable for a Minister to refer to someone\u2019s donor status in an answer, then it must be acceptable to ask that in a question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225001d9b3e3404d5e9bb1187e59035a2f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I think there have been quite a few questions relating to donor status just recently. All I could say\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002254ce7b0c43574ac1a89b1d1a38e44f4c\u0022\u003EHon Shane Jones\u003C/span\u003E: It\u2019s envious!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224a46c4638b4f469493b1b04c44d1f978\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: If you don\u2019t mind\u2014Mr Jones, if you don\u2019t mind. No, the one in front! What he was doing was quoting from a text that had been sent to him. Now, that is reasonable. Whether it becomes reasonable in a question, of course, is quite a different matter\u2014it must comply with the Standing Orders and Speakers\u2019 rulings. But this is not a particular Speaker\u2019s ruling that I\u2019d rely on for any future questions. Any other questions on this matter?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022587eeeae-8af5-4e11-ac7f-a7690f9c7c3a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002244a796305317411bac029c61c4fdf038\u0022\u003EDr Carlos Cheung\u003C/span\u003E: Why is the Government funding front-line mental health services for young people?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022500d06c86aa0469a90a37d4101b6d52e\u0022\u003EHon MATT DOOCEY\u003C/span\u003E: A report by the Auditor-General earlier this year found that despite a $1.9 billion investment into mental health by the previous Government, young people in need of mental health support are waiting longer to access care. This new funding will enable at least 15,000 young people to access free mental health counselling services through the Gumboot Friday platform every year. This Government is committed to better mental health outcomes for our young people and to getting more money out of Wellington and into the front-line services like Gumboot Friday that are already delivering.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022587eeeae-8af5-4e11-ac7f-a7690f9c7c3a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002257b0a0fe41b7440d8520615b6390c50e\u0022\u003EDr Carlos Cheung\u003C/span\u003E: What reports has he seen regarding the return on investment for Gumboot Friday?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022895e1f6bacc140739258fe69d7fca3c1\u0022\u003EHon MATT DOOCEY\u003C/span\u003E: Gumboot Friday is a longstanding and proven organisation that addresses the needs of our communities on the ground. A 2023 ImpactLab assessment found that every $1 invested in I Am Hope results in a social return to New Zealand of $5.70. This Government has committed to improving mental health and addiction outcomes for New Zealanders and is investing in this through Budget 2024.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aed260be-c954-464b-bb75-85579e53d05a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aac1493a1bc04f65b9a586be6498ee98\u0022\u003EHon Dr Ayesha Verrall\u003C/span\u003E: Did any other mental health charities have the opportunity to bid for the $24 million contract?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002214effc64351643ef8d9bfd7b9790b55b\u0022\u003EHon MATT DOOCEY\u003C/span\u003E: Two more sleeps to go.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228f49b5a61c784432bf47d1c271877a6c\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. That question concerned an announcement that the Government has already made, not something that the Government may or may not be talking about on Budget day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002209c6bc169e2d4597a54625b2f2f6479e\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think we\u2019ll have the question asked again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022aed260be-c954-464b-bb75-85579e53d05a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022623437fd8a134d799fe51d0b39e5f3b2\u0022\u003EHon Dr Ayesha Verrall\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, Mr Speaker. Did any other mental health charities have the opportunity to bid for the $24 million contract?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eb65fa6ce291464f9d13c476cd31d3cf\u0022\u003EHon MATT DOOCEY\u003C/span\u003E: Two more sleeps to go.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221dbd2811-8e58-4ffb-848d-31c0eaa9690a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227adaf185a6164f1289fa98cbac025086\u0022\u003ERt Hon Chris Hipkins\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223d31652ecee043969c116614e382c854\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Give me a few seconds to come to it. I think the point is the question, when it was asked, was asked in the past tense about what happened at a particular time. It\u2019s a reasonable question and it is not dependent on an answer on something that happens in in a couple of days\u2019 time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022 data-id=\u00226b2fefe9fe424763925db0aad3c92bce\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022ee649aea-c6fa-4610-9fcf-5c4bb2d3cd33\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226b2fefe9fe424763925db0aad3c92bce\u0022\u003EHon MATT DOOCEY\u003C/span\u003E: The commitment to Gumboot Friday was a coalition agreement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u002261f2182ef48b44e7967ce3a1aa3f7181\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002261f2182ef48b44e7967ce3a1aa3f7181\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I declare the House in committee for consideration of the Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022eb72761c978447218d8c6c6b0c84a471\u0022\u003EWhakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00221c8009e425ff448597fba12875c42c25\u0022\u003EIn Committee\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00225be20c70b7db45d5b1ac1bd65527808f\u0022\u003EPart 1  Preliminary matters, historical account, acknowledgements and apology, and settlement of historical claims\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u0022ae8583e720c547d9bb2022afe3d3dbcc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ae8583e720c547d9bb2022afe3d3dbcc\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: Members, the House is in committee on the Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill. We come first to Part 1. This is the debate on clauses 3 to 21, \u201CPreliminary matters, historical account, acknowledgements and apology, and settlement of historical claims\u201D. The question is that Part 1 stand part. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EPart 1 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022bc66f0f138494959bd0c5bfd28fc8034\u0022\u003EPart 2  \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000269\u0022\u003ECultural redress\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u002297e43ec5d2cc4d07a83f1810e95eacbb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002297e43ec5d2cc4d07a83f1810e95eacbb\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: Members, we now come to Part 2. This is the debate on clauses 22 to 117, \u201CCultural redress\u201D, and Schedules 1 and 2. The question is that Part 2 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EPart 2 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002222bd815ff7a3474491380dbe6da4777b\u0022\u003EPart 3  \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000273\u0022\u003ECommercial redress\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u0022febc308a4bb74b00abfeb30071be594a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022febc308a4bb74b00abfeb30071be594a\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: Members, we now come to Part 3. This is the debate on clauses 118 to 159, \u201CCommercial redress\u201D, and Schedule 3. The question is that Part 3 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EPart 3 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c19d6dda81af43668d107107a81077cd\u0022\u003EPart 4  \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000277\u0022\u003ENatural resources arrangements\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u00229876585caa69433fb747323a88a110c2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229876585caa69433fb747323a88a110c2\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: Members, we now come to Part 4. This is the debate on clauses 160 to 178, \u201CNatural resources arrangements\u201D, and Schedule 4. The question is that Part 4 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EPart 4 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00224e32afed042c4a21afee82a09b955593\u0022\u003EPart 5  \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000281\u0022\u003EGovernance reorganisation and taxation matters\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u0022952da78d3a5d43e88944c1a6727c801f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022952da78d3a5d43e88944c1a6727c801f\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: Members, we now come to Part 5. This is the debate on clauses 179 to 209, \u201CGovernance reorganisation and taxation matters\u201D. The question is that Part 5 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EPart 5 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002258b7b998f7cd405ca8cf535593202139\u0022\u003ESchedule 1\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u0022ab27176bfc6a4698ba5b76726b678116\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ab27176bfc6a4698ba5b76726b678116\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that Schedule 1 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003ESchedule 1 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022aab608a9a4014966b859eb7de00f6b99\u0022\u003ESchedule 2\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u00224a9464174abe4b1eb93c8c367ba6e686\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224a9464174abe4b1eb93c8c367ba6e686\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that Schedule 2 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003ESchedule 2 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000290\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002227fd710d3ff14cce87ce51af4fda57e7\u0022\u003ESchedule 3\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u0022d7adda9ea0d54b42a9f0be25e0a7306b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d7adda9ea0d54b42a9f0be25e0a7306b\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that Schedule 3 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003ESchedule 3 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002215ef40a80c79419a937128814b39b227\u0022\u003ESchedule 4\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u00224256597b07184a8db6ce62b8e0f49062\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224256597b07184a8db6ce62b8e0f49062\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that Schedule 4 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000295\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003ESchedule 4 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000296\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f20c3a0dea994b2d83d29bf0f9f1fae6\u0022\u003EClauses 1 and 2\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u00226581d37bcd924a55858f72fe65a85746\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000297\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226581d37bcd924a55858f72fe65a85746\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: Members, we now come to our final debate: clauses 1 and 2. This is the debate on clauses 1 and 2, \u201CTitle\u201D and \u201CCommencement\u201D. The question is that clause 1 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EClause 1 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u0022e13643565e684b7d99d216bafecbedce\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e13643565e684b7d99d216bafecbedce\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that clause 2 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EClause 2 agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EBill to be reported without amendment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EHouse resumed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u0022b14bd108f3b94acdbbed39e1f71f77ee\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b14bd108f3b94acdbbed39e1f71f77ee\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: Madam Speaker, the committee has considered the Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill and reports it without amendment. I move, That the report be adopted. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003EReport adopted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022 data-id=\u002299eaad9a27ae4ce6a1b9b9482cfae543\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002299eaad9a27ae4ce6a1b9b9482cfae543\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: In accordance with the determination of the Business Committee, this bill is set down for third reading immediately. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002213c7c39023b14ae086b5c804a02be9ef\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u0022af3e1c3f050b40f7a939d717d73cde92\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022af3e1c3f050b40f7a939d717d73cde92\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I present a legislative statement on the Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b7148964b8b7495e8b0aa6159efb92ed\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: That legislative statement is published under the authority of the House and can be found on the parliamentary website.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223b9d50ac9c45474797533df3c8d25f94\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH\u003C/span\u003E: I move, That the Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill be now read a third time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ETihei mauriora!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ETe Whare e t\u016B nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Te papa i waho nei t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Te mana whenua o t\u0113nei rohe, kei te mihi. E ng\u0101 t\u012Bpuna o te p\u014D, haere haere haere. Haere ki te w\u0101hi ngaro, haere haere. E ng\u0101 k\u0101wai Rangatira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E[Tis the breath of life!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThe House standing, greetings to you. The land outside, greetings. The indigenous people of this region, I salute you. Dear ancestors of the night, farewell. Farewell to the unseen realm, farewell. To our esteemed leaders, greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI\u2019m pleased to stand here to support the Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill at its third reading. Today marks 184 years since rangatira of Te Whakat\u014Dhea signed Te Tiriti o Waitangi in \u014Cp\u014Dtiki on 27 and 28 May 1840, and one year since Te Whakat\u014Dhea signed their deed of settlement with my predecessor the Hon Andrew Little. Welcome to you all to your House today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s 138 years since the Crown confiscated 144,000 acres of Whakat\u014Dhea land and moved its people to the \u014Cpape Native Reserve. Te Whakat\u014Dhea took their first petition to Parliament 110 years ago to seek an inquiry into the confiscation of their land. Many more petitions followed. In response, in 1949, the Whakat\u014Dhea M\u0101ori Trust Board was established by legislation and the iwi received \u00A320,000 in the compensation. With this money, the trust board bought a farm and began the work of re-establishing the Whakat\u014Dhea economic, social, and cultural infrastructure.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EIn 1996, 28 years ago, the Whakat\u014Dhea M\u0101ori Trust Board agreed a deed of settlement with the Crown for the comprehensive settlement of the Whakat\u014Dhea Treaty claims. The claimant community rejected this deed of settlement and it was never put into ratification. Te Whakat\u014Dhea recommenced negotiations in 2003. At the end of 2016, the Crown recognised the mandate of the Whakat\u014Dhea Pre-Settlement Claims Trust to negotiate a Treaty settlement on behalf of Te Whakat\u014Dhea. Today, 184 years since the Treaty was signed in \u014Cp\u014Dtiki, we renew the relationship between Te Whakat\u014Dhea and the Crown.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI offer this time line to the House today so that we can understand just how long the journey has been for Te Whakat\u014Dhea. I ask the House to think of those who have passed and the efforts of many Te Whakat\u014Dhea who have worked tirelessly across the generations to reach this day. I want to acknowledge Graeme Riesterer for his leadership of the Whakat\u014Dhea Pre-Settlement Claims Trust, as well as Robert Edwards, chair of the Whakat\u014Dhea M\u0101ori Trust Board. The Whakat\u014Dhea M\u0101ori Trust Board will be dissolved by this legislation and its assets and functions transferred to Te T\u0101wharau o Te Whakat\u014Dhea to lead Te Whakat\u014Dhea into the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI acknowledge the trust board\u2019s leadership over the 75 years of its existence, during which it laid the foundations for the future prosperity of Te Whakat\u014Dhea. I also acknowledge the trustees of the post-settlement governance entity, Te T\u0101wharau o Te Whakat\u014Dhea, in particular the new chair, Arihia Tuoro. Te T\u0101wharau is made up of hap\u016B and general representatives, people who have supported the settlement and some who did not. I know that all of you will work together in the best interests of the people to make the most out of the settlement and the opportunities that lie ahead.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI acknowledge those who were on the front line of those negotiations over the past 7\u00BD\u00A0years. Maui Hudson and Jason Pou brought Te Whakat\u014Dhea aspirations to the table and worked with the chief negotiator, Glenn Webber, and his officials, including Te Arawhiti, who have worked hard to assemble an outstanding package. My predecessors the Hon Chris Finlayson and the Hon Andrew Little, along with other Ministers of the Crown, made significant and bold decisions to make this settlement happen, including the development of a new redress mechanism reserving marine space for Whakat\u014Dhea to support their pioneering work in the aquaculture industry. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EFinally, and most importantly, I acknowledge the many people of Te Whakat\u014Dhea who have travelled to Wellington today to witness this important milestone, and those who could not be here in person. I welcome you to this House again. While many have passed on over the century of struggle towards this day, you and your descendants carry their memories into a more prosperous future. As I said in the introduction to our greeting a couple of hours ago, it\u2019s great to see all the generations here celebrating this momentous occasion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EAs I noted in the second reading, last week, I personally became aware of the tragic history of the Crown and Te Whakat\u014Dhea in the 1990s when I was studying for my Master\u2019s in history under the supervision of a historian who would be familiar to many of you: Judith Binney. My thesis was on the life of William Colenso, an early Christian missionary printer. In the course of that, I came across Colenso\u2019s 1871 pamphlet Fiat Justitia, or Let Justice Be Done, which he wrote in the turbulent backgrounds to the events surrounding V\u00F6lkner\u2019s death at \u014Cp\u014Dtiki and the people of Whakat\u014Dhea being caught up with that. That was a powerful pamphlet, and it actually sparked an interest for me in this difficult period of history and also in those core concepts of justice that he stood up for and which, ultimately, we are acknowledging here today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ETe Whakat\u014Dhea lost much in the confiscation of their land and in the war the Crown waged on their people. Before the Crown\u2019s invasion of \u014Cp\u014Dtiki, the people of Te Whakat\u014Dhea had developed a burgeoning agricultural industry to supply the growing settlement of Auckland. This included infrastructure in roads and ships and a windmill built by Ng\u0101ti Ira leader Hira Te Popo. Much of this was destroyed by the Crown forces in the invasion. Whakat\u014Dhea have lived with the aftermath of these devastating acts ever since. It\u2019s past time for the Crown to make redress. This settlement provides financial, commercial, and cultural redress funds totalling $100 million. The deed and the bill provide the transfer of 33 cultural redress sites. The deed and bill include acknowledgments of the Crown\u2019s breaches of the Treaty of Waitangi and an apology from the Crown to Te Whakat\u014Dhea.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EMost of all, this settlement is a platform for the current and future aspirations of the people of Te Whakat\u014Dhea. The redress will help Te Whakat\u014Dhea continue to develop their economic base, continue the good work in providing housing and industry in \u014Cp\u014Dtiki so their people can return home to live and work, and continue their efforts to develop their culture and revive their language. It\u2019s my hope that this settlement can form the basis of a new future for the people of Te Whakat\u014Dhea and a renewed relationship with the Crown founded in the Treaty of Waitangi. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u00223eff2e1ca67748219a071d6b7ca29977\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223eff2e1ca67748219a071d6b7ca29977\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: Ko te p\u0101tai kia whakaaetia te m\u014Dtini.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E[The question is that the motion be agreed to.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022 data-id=\u0022291b50198e374e889a421779114be919\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022291b50198e374e889a421779114be919\u0022\u003ERt Hon ADRIAN RURAWHE (Labour): \u003C/span\u003EK\u0101ti r\u0101 t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. Whakapiri ana \u0101ku mihi ki te mihi o te Minita ki a koutou Whakat\u014Dhea kua tae mai ki t\u0113nei Whare an\u014D. N\u014D reira, koutou katoa ng\u0101 wh\u0101nau me ng\u0101 hap\u016B. Ng\u0101ti Rua, Ng\u0101ti Tamahaua, Ng\u0101ti Patumoana, Ng\u0101ti Ng\u0101here, Ng\u0101ti Ira me Te \u016Apokorehe. T\u0113nei ahau e tuku mihi atu nei ki a koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003E[Well, then, greetings everyone. I\u2019d like to add my acknowledgments to the Minister\u2019s in\u00A0regards to you, Whakat\u014Dhea, who have arrived here again to this House. And so greetings to you all and your wh\u0101nau and people. Ng\u0101ti Rua, Ng\u0101ti Tamahaua, Ng\u0101ti Patumoana, Ng\u0101ti Ng\u0101here, Ng\u0101ti Ira me Te \u016Apokorehe. I acknowledge you all sincerely. Thank you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI always think that the third reading of a claims settlement bill is a good opportunity to talk about the future, and the Minister also spoke about the future. You ask yourself why do claimants, do iwi, go through this long process for redress, not compensation. We\u2019ve heard on many occasions in this House from members who say what the magnitude of the loss was compared to the relatively small redress that we get\u2014it\u2019s not compensation\u2014and ask ourselves, \u201CWhy would you do that?\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI\u2019ve been in the, I was going to say fortunate position\u2014maybe unfortunate position\u2014of being a negotiator for a settlement, and I have also sat on this side and seen the passage of legislation go through. I can speak for myself. I know why I did it; I know why my wh\u0101nau, hap\u016B, and iwi did it. It was for our future generations. We felt we were giving them the opportunity to move forward to a situation that gave them options and opportunities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EWe all know that by going through this process, we don\u2019t have to pass the burden of carrying the historical breaches of the Treaty to the next generation. Don\u2019t be mistaken, though\u2014they\u2019ll have their own burdens to carry. I hope one of them is addressed by them coming back and relooking at what we have done. I sincerely hope that happens. I think, for our collective future, that must happen. We must look at how these Treaty settlements have been valued, how we have progressed from them. Have they been good, bad, or indifferent? That\u2019s one for future generations to look at. They also need to look at relativity as well\u2014relativity between the settlements\u2014because some are a lot better than others, one would have to say.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI think it\u2019s also an opportunity to look at\u2014well, for me, anyway\u2014the apology, and, in third reading speeches, I usually talk about the apology. On this apology and this settlement, I want to focus particularly on the last paragraph of that apology, and it says, \u201CLet us look forward to a future of prosperity for the people of Whakat\u014Dhea and move towards it together in a spirit of good faith, partnership, and respect for te Tiriti o Waitangi/the Treaty of Waitangi.\u201D, which is lovely. It\u2019s really good. But it\u2019s only really good if this House makes sure that it upholds that apology and that this House does not do anything\u2014does not pass any legislation\u2014that impacts negatively on Whakat\u014Dhea. I say that today in an environment that we are all currently under of not really knowing what\u2019s going to happen in terms of Treaty clauses that exist in current legislation\u2014the value of those principles, whether you believe in them or not. That apology only means something for Whakat\u014Dhea if this House upholds its obligation to this apology.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI mentioned before that your tamariki and mokopuna will have their own burdens to carry; let\u2019s hope that that\u2019s not one of them. I implore this House to make sure that when it\u2019s considering legislation on any issue to do with Te Tiriti o Waitangi\u2014whether it is removing clauses from legislation, minimising the value of those clauses, minimising the value of Te Tiriti o Waitangi\u2014they think twice about doing that and they remember this day that they voted for the third reading of the Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill and they know that that is in that bill. That\u2019s what I implore everyone to do.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a434482b-7ac1-4862-9ce7-13e63289dee3\u0022\u003EI really have nothing further to say, except to say to all of Whakat\u014Dhea that I wish you all the best. It has been far too long for this day to come for you. You have seen other settled iwi doing really well, growing their settlement assets. As I said in my second reading speech, I admire the Whakat\u014Dhea M\u0101ori Trust Board for what they have done in growing the assets that they\u2019ve had. Just imagine if they had had all of this as well. I\u2019ll leave it there. N\u014D reira, huri rauna, huri rauna. Kia ora mai t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022 data-id=\u002228e33e5baa1c4d56b5d117daf051988c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002228e33e5baa1c4d56b5d117daf051988c\u0022\u003EHon MARAMA DAVIDSON (Co-Leader\u2014Green):\u003C/span\u003E E te M\u0101ngai, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. E t\u0113nei Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Ki a koutou ng\u0101 iwi me ng\u0101 hap\u016B o te Whakat\u014Dhea, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. Ng\u0101 hap\u016B, Ngai Tamahaua, Ng\u0101ti Ira, Ng\u0101ti Ngahere, Ng\u0101ti Patumoana, Ng\u0101ti Ruatakena, me \u016Apokorehe. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker, and this House, greetings. To you, the people of Te Whakat\u014Dhea, greetings to you all. The nations, Ngai Tamahaua, Ng\u0101ti Ira, Ng\u0101ti Ngahere, Ng\u0101ti Patumoana, Ng\u0101ti Ruatakena, and \u016Apokorehe.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EAcknowledging the interwoven and overlapping interest among the hap\u016B and Whakat\u014Dhea and that this is an incredibly significant day for so many reasons\u2014of course it\u2019s an incredibly significant day. But as I was remembering exactly how long the mahi to this day has taken, it\u2019s not even since 2016. I was reminded again, reading through the history of the deed of settlement, that, actually, back in the early 1990s when Whakat\u014Dhea initiated and wanted to see some recognition for the many grievances and the Crown breaches of Te Tiriti, particularly in the iwi rohe, there was a go for a comprehensive settlement in the early 1990s. And then iwi members raised concerns that the negotiators had gone beyond their mandate and the settlement package was insufficient.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EAnd this is always quite a difficult k\u014Drero to have, because the mahi, the passion, the positive vision, and the dreaming that takes place from iwi when they are reaching a settlement has to be upheld and understood for incredible generational strength, while, at the same time, there is absolutely nothing. There is no level of settlement in a contract that can fully ever recognise the mamae that has been caused. And I immediately think of the complete scorched earth plunder policy that was particularly taken by the Crown as part of the mamae and the breaches.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EBut I think what I am trying to remind my colleagues across the House is when we talk about iwi being generous and patient, my goodness do we acknowledge in this case for Whakat\u014Dhea and hap\u016B that this is an incredibly significant day today. So much mahi, so many people from the start of way back in the 1990s, this initial k\u014Drero, who are no longer with us, and so much mahi done to get to this point.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI wanted to focus on the mahi and the visions and aspirations in this third reading speech, and also, in this third reading speech refer the House back to my second reading speech, which was where I again repeat and acknowledge the valid concerns that have been raised by hap\u016B, including \u016Apokorehe and Ng\u0101ti Ira. But I note in my submissions, it wasn\u2019t just that. There were and are valid concerns\u2014concerns that many of the select committee members raised questions about at select committee, concerns that I have put on record in my second reading speech that I am accountable for in my support to this bill for Whakat\u014Dhea to be able to move through this part of the dreams and aspirations that you have, recognising that no bill, no settlement, can ever be the fulfilment of those moemoe\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo I wanted to acknowledge that with the mahi that was put into this settlement, the Greens have always been very, very clear that Te Tiriti was never supposed to be a transactional and a settlement approach. It is and has always been in the vision of all of our t\u016Bpuna that it is about an enduring relationship, where the Crown\u2014as Mr Adrian Rurawhe has already said\u2014must continue to honour its partnership agreement, and at the centre uphold the mana motuhake and the tino rangatiratanga of Whakat\u014Dhea over its lands and peoples. And that Whakat\u014Dhea has acknowledged time and time again that it has mahi to do in terms of bringing together and keeping together the whakapapa connections across all of the hap\u016B, and noting those valid concerns that were raised by hap\u016B under the settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EThat is for the Crown to continue to uphold; that Te Tiriti is about partnership and enduring relationship, and not transactional settlement. In saying that, this settlement needs to be acknowledged and the apology and the harm that this settlement is attempting to at least address in some way. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EJust quickly, I think, for the purpose of reminding ourselves why this day is so important, remembering the Crown invading and occupying parts of Whakat\u014Dhea rohe\u2014things like the failure to return the body of Tio Te K\u0101hika after he had been killed and desecrated and the obviously great distress that that causes; Crown failure to act in good faith in its treatment and execution of Mokomoko, of course a rangatira of Whakat\u014Dhea. And last week at the second reading, I was very grateful and privileged to be able to sit with Mokomoko uri up here in this House to acknowledge the significance of this bill going through. Also, there was the failure to protect Whakat\u014Dhea from becoming virtually landless due to the ongoing and cumulative effects of the Crown\u2019s acts, omissions, breaches, and harm; the failure to actively protect te reo M\u0101ori and encourage its use, and the widespread displacement of Whakat\u014Dhea uri and descendants to whanaunga, to reo, and to tikanga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003ESo, with those breaches, then, the ability for Whakat\u014Dhea to be able to move through this piece of legislation I know is going to play a significant role in the mokopuna moemoe\u0101 and the aspirations that you all told us time and time again at the submission hearings\u2014the dreams that you all hold collectively for the descendants of many generations to come now and to come under this settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EMy colleague who\u2019s next to me right now\u2014Mr Steve Abel\u2014is going to, as tangata Tiriti, pick up on the importance for P\u0101keh\u0101 of what happens through the whole negotiations, through the settlement laws, the legislation, and why it is important for P\u0101keh\u0101 to understand that M\u0101ori continue to be hopeful and continue to be generous in how we settle these claims. But that should never let tangata Tiriti off the hook for the enduring requirements and relationships that are going to be required, not just from Crown but from tangata Tiriti all over. And, yes, mokopuna of Whakat\u014Dhea, tangi mai\u2014this is your House, this is your bill, this is your day for all the mokopuna, and I really welcome you. I saw some babies and I, more importantly, am hearing the babies, including through question time, which I personally welcome. Hearing the mokopuna is exactly the reason why we are here, so tangi mai p\u0113p\u0113, tangi mai mokopuna. This is yours, this is your legacy, this is your day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI\u2019m finishing with\u2014and I forgot to mention in my second reading speech\u2014the fantastic van that took us on some of the site visits when the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee was down there. I believe we had Matua Robert in our van. I think we had Danny and Vaughn and Graeme and Dickie and Arahia, perhaps, in our van\u2014some fantastic mahi from all of you. We started at the Hiona St Stephen\u2019s Church, which became, of course, connected with what happened to Rev. Carl V\u00F6lkner and all of the consequences from those events. So some of the places that we went are, for me, the strongest memories of connecting my heart and mind to some of the significant places of Whakat\u014Dhea.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a5f0fe84-01e8-4eb3-a590-0025017c4243\u0022\u003EI think I did mention in my second reading speech that Ng\u0101ti Ira actually took us out to Te Tarata p\u0101, where select committee members could see for ourselves both the expanse of that whenua, and hear the history and what happened there while being on the land\u2014well, there\u2019s nothing that can substitute for that in understanding the role. And we had a beautiful lunch at the mussel farm\u2014a very beautiful lunch that day\u2014and we were hearing and seeing the factory workers and how important that is going to be under this settlement. So I just wanted to give my awhi and aroha to you all and wish you the best of luck in your future. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u002268074b845f9d436ab04ec17d3fd59cd3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002268074b845f9d436ab04ec17d3fd59cd3\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: Aroha mai. Kua pau te w\u0101 ki te mema. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E[I\u2019m sorry. The member\u2019s time has expired.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022 data-id=\u00228c9d8aa648de4c208bf3abda7d88b601\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228c9d8aa648de4c208bf3abda7d88b601\u0022\u003ECAMERON LUXTON (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. It\u2019s a pleasure to rise on this third reading. I was able to speak on the second reading of the Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill, and I talked a lot about the history in there, but I want to start with how important it is to have an apology written down in a bill such as this. That really does mean that a side takes ownership of what had happened\u2014that the Crown agrees about what had happened and the responsibility that the Crown had for these historical travesties that took place. This has been a long time coming, as we\u2019ve heard the other members of the House speaking tonight say, but it has been a long journey that Whakat\u014Dhea has had\u00A0to\u00A0take in multiple iterations to seek justice. I am proud to be speaking on the third reading for the ACT Party in support of this bill, to give our shoulder to your effort of seeking justice.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003EAs I say, it\u2019s been a long time in the history of what had happened in the \u014Cp\u014Dtiki district and the surrounds. As I said in my second reading, these stories were something that I\u2019d heard from down the coast where I grew up in Papamoa, Kuhawaea, and I knew some of the stories, but to have it laid out in the narrative, as it is in this bill, so that you can actually see what was done and the hurt that was caused and really understand why an apology is the least that can be done.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003EOn Saturday, I drove across up the Motueka Gorge and drove through the whenua that is that of Whakat\u014Dhea. I drove through in the early morning and saw the beautiful sunrise and the stars and the moon and the hills and the green grass. It is a paradise, and it was a paradise in 1864 and it was burnt in 1865, 1866, and for 180 years after. To lose a connection with such an amazing place, such a beautiful place, and such a part of you must only hurt. This bill does not return all of this. It doesn\u2019t go near addressing, as the previous speaker, Marama Davidson, said, a full compensation. It\u2019s only a token of what could be done, but I hope that the things inside this bill\u2014as crass as it is\u2014the commercial settlement and the ability to rebuild an economy base and a business and a future for your people that brings people back to the land that is yours, to have a reconnection, to take part in that beautiful place and that paradise that is the whenua that was taken away. The land is a gorgeous place, and you\u2019re a gorgeous people to be so gracious in accepting an apology.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003EI hope that future generations will look back at what was done tonight\u2014as the member Adrian Rurawhe had said, I hope we look back and are proud of what the Government and Whakat\u014Dhea have agreed and that people feel that they are being addressed going forward, in perpetuity; people feel that the past has been accounted for, if not paid but accounted; they\u2019ve been acknowledged, but we can actually look forward to a future in Te Moana o Toi, to a place where we\u2019ve got all the abundance that God\u2019s gift of our land can give and that we no longer treat it as people have in the past but, again, treat it as people treated it in the great past.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003EI look forward to future drives through your rohe, seeing what Whakat\u014Dhea can do, seeing how \u014Cp\u014Dtiki and the district can thrive, and, Whakat\u014Dhea, you\u2019re going to be an essential, core, undivided part of that. I\u2019m still a young man, I hope, and I\u2019m looking forward to being an old man and seeing what you can do. So thank you very much.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u00229ced1d300d9d411e80f4d0ef675136c1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229ced1d300d9d411e80f4d0ef675136c1\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E A k\u0101ti, e ng\u0101 uri a Whakat\u014Dhea. Koutou kua hoki mai i roto i t\u0113nei wiki. I k\u014Dnei an\u014D ruarua noa iho \u014D koutou m\u0101tua n\u014D te wiki pahure ake nei, kua tae m\u0101totoru mai ai koutou ki waenga tonu i a m\u0101tou. Ng\u0101 uri a Muriwai, a T\u016Bt\u0101mure, a Tarawa n\u0101na w\u0101na m\u014Dkaikai i tuku ki roto i t\u014D koutou wai puna. N\u014D muri noa nei ka whakaingoatia \u014Cp\u014Dtiki mai i Tawhiti. N\u0101 reira t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D r\u0101 koutou. Me te mahara ake i te roa o te hikoi te t\u0101roaroa o te huarahi kua pau i a koutou kia tae mai ai ki waenga tonu i a m\u0101tou i t\u0113nei r\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI ahau i te kura i T\u012Bpene he mea tono mai e \u014D koutou m\u0101tua, w\u0101 koutou tauira i te kura i Hato P\u0113tera. Ruarua i tae mai ki waenga tonu i a m\u0101tou. Otir\u0101 he kete n\u014D m\u0101tou i \u014D m\u0101tou wh\u0101torotorohanga haere i roto waenga tonu i a M\u0101t\u0101tua T\u016Bhoe Whakat\u014Dhea Apanui w\u0113r\u0101 p\u0101nga o te ao M\u0101ori. He iwi Motuhake an\u014D koutou. \u014C koutou whare he pae moko. \u014C koutou kaum\u0101tua he mea ako ki roto i ng\u0101 \u0101huatanga me ng\u0101 ritenga o ng\u0101 karaipiture. \u0112ngari k\u012Bhai rawa koutou i wareware ki ng\u0101 kupu whakarite me ng\u0101 taonga tukuiho mai i te ao kohatu. K\u0101tahi ka whakam\u0101renatia i roto i te kauhautanga haeretanga a Te K\u014Dti i waenga tonu i t\u0113n\u0101 moka kei t\u0113r\u0101 pito kei te Ika a M\u0101ui he mea whakam\u0101rena ng\u0101 taonga mai te ao kohatu ki ng\u0101 kura taonga n\u0101na i tiritiri n\u0101na i ruirui kua riro ko koutou \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata whakamutunga hei mau haere hei p\u012Bkau hei amo i ng\u0101 ritenga me ng\u0101 taonga m\u014D te p\u016Btea whakanakonako m\u014D te kete e k\u012B ana ki ng\u0101 taonga o te ao wairua. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira i a t\u0101tou e mihi nei ki a koutou i t\u0113nei rangi, ehara i te mea he mihi \u0101-oneone \u0101nakenake. Ehara i te mea he mihi \u0101-ture \u0101nakenake. Otir\u0101, m\u0101tou ng\u0101 kaik\u014Drero e whai toto M\u0101ori ana i whakatupungia ai i roto i \u014D m\u0101tou k\u0101inga M\u0101ori, rekereke o \u014D m\u0101tou kuikuia. He m\u014Dhio n\u014D m\u0101tou ko t\u0113nei whakataunga i t\u0113nei r\u0101 he whakataunga \u0101-tinana, he whakataunga \u0101-hinengaro, he whakataunga noki \u0101-wairua. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira ko te mahi m\u0101 m\u0101tou \u0101 t\u014Dna w\u0101 me p\u0113hea r\u0101nei te wairua e mumura tonu ai? Kaua rawa atu e titiro ki te Karauna e muramura ai t\u014D wairua. Kaua rawa atu e titiro ki te Karauna e koi tonu ai te hinengaro. Otir\u0101 t\u0101tou me titiro ki a t\u0101tou an\u014D. E pai ana te werowero, e pai ana te whakatumatuma kia kaua rawa atu te Karauna e \u0101rai tonu e whakaoruoru tonu i te huarahi kua rite hei haere m\u0101 t\u0101tou. Otir\u0101 i te mutunga, m\u0101 roto i t\u0113nei whakataunga me ng\u0101 pitopito whenua kua oti te whakahoki atu.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EHe m\u014Dhio n\u014D m\u0101tou ehara te mea ko te katoa t\u0113nei kahore. Otir\u0101 t\u0113nei rawa te tauira i whakaritea m\u014D t\u0113n\u0101 iwi m\u014D t\u0113n\u0101 iwi otir\u0101 \u014D koutou maha tonu ng\u0101 taonga kei \u0101p\u014Dp\u014D. Kei te Moana a Toi. E hari ana au ka oti i a koutou i t\u0113nei rangi ng\u0101tahi me m\u0101tou. Me te whakamahara i a koutou mea ake nei taro ake nei m\u0101tou ka tae mai ki waenganui i a koutou te rapu me p\u0113hea r\u0101nei te p\u016Btea ng\u0101tahi ka kitea ka whakang\u0101oa ng\u0101tahitia e koutou, e m\u0101tou. Katahi ka whai mana t\u0113n\u0101 kupu e karangahia nei ko te co-invested. Whakang\u0101o tahi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EM\u0101tou e hae ana i roto i Te Tai Tokerau i te nui o te p\u0101rai mahi p\u016Btea kei t\u014D koutou aroaro kei te Moana nui a Toi. Ahakoa \u014D koutou t\u0113r\u0101 whanaunga tarar\u0101 \u014Dku, a Vitasovich e haere mai ana ki te rapu i ng\u0101 p\u012Bpi k\u016Btai i waenga tonu i ahau i Te Oneroa-a-T\u014Dhe. Otir\u0101 koia t\u0113n\u0101 ko te huarahi hei haerenga m\u0101 t\u0101tou. Mahi tahi, t\u0113tahi iwi ki t\u0113tahi k\u0113 atu. Me whakarite he tauira hou kia riro ko t\u0101u ko t\u0101ku ng\u0101 k\u012Bwai o te kete. M\u0101u t\u0113tahi, m\u0101ku t\u0113tahi k\u0101tahi ka whakak\u012Bia ng\u0101tahitia e t\u0101tou. He taro, he m\u0101taitai, he oranga kei roto i t\u0113n\u0101 kete. N\u0101 koia t\u0101ku e mihi ake nei ki a t\u0101tou i t\u0113nei r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[Well then, dear descendants of Whakat\u014Dhea, you all who have returned within this week. Last week, there were not many of your elders here. You have arrived today in great numbers. The descendants of Muriwai, of T\u016Bt\u0101mure of Tarawa, he who sent his subordinates to your sacred pool. It was only later on, the name \u014Cp\u014Dtiki mai Tawhiti was bestowed. And so, greetings to you all, and also not to forget the enduring walk that you have experienced to be here with us today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EWhen I was schooling at T\u012Bpene, I was sent by your elders; your kin were schooling at Hato P\u0113tera. Only a few came to us. We were fortunate to have been to M\u0101t\u0101tua, T\u016Bhoe, Whakat\u014Dhea, and Apanui, those M\u0101ori communities. You are indeed a nation of your own. Your houses were M\u0101ori. Your elders were schooled in the teachings of the scripture. But you also didn\u2019t leave behind the metaphors and the heritage of the old ways. And then both were married together and taught by Te K\u014Dti within those parts of this country. The old knowledge and his wisdom were married together and disseminated, and you are some of the last of our people to hold fast to these sacred teachings. To convey these customs and wisdoms in order to fill your wealth with correct spiritual measures. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ESo, as we acknowledge you today, these acknowledgments are not just words. These acknowledgments are not only part of our rules. Furthermore, we the speakers have M\u0101ori blood ties and were also raised within M\u0101ori communities, raised at the ankles of our grandmothers. We are well aware that these settlements are a settlement for the physical, a settlement for the mind, and also a settlement of the spirit. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EAnd so our responsibility is that later on down the track, how do we still keep the spirit strong? Don\u2019t ever let the Crown be the reason to keep you sharpening your mind. Let us look within ourselves. It is OK to challenge, it is OK to be defiant, so that the Crown will not block the pathway set for you all. At the end of the day, it is within this settlement and the lands that are given back to you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EWe all know this is not speaking on behalf of everyone, no. But this is the example set aside for that iwi, and that iwi, and for you as well, there is a future to look forward to. It is the great ocean of Toi. I am happy that we are here today to settle this together. And to remind you that soon we will come to you to discuss how the funding will be implemented, we will meet and speak to this together. Only then will the term \u201Cco-invested\u201D have true meaning. Together. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EWe in the North are quite envious at the funding and projects that you have before you, at the great ocean of Toi. And that kin of mine, Vitasovich, who is here at Te Oneroa-a-T\u014Dhe looking for pipi and k\u016Btai. And that is the pathway for us. Work together, one iwi with another. We need to show an example on how to fill all our baskets. For you, for me, and then together we will fill it. Taro, seafood, there is success in that basket. Hence why I am here acknowledging you today.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EAs I have said in our M\u0101ori language, the passage of this bill reflects a long and perilous journey for this iwi, an iwi that stands in the ranks of the m\u0101t\u0101mua, the senior positions, senior personalities, deep-steeped in the M\u0101ori world. A sad history, but a history that I reflected in our M\u0101ori language can be brightened by looking forward and that can be improved by a constructive level of engagement, as was the case with my friends on the other side of the House. At one level, we are combatants, adversaries, in the context of politics, but we are all here to, in a patriotic sense of duty, grow the wealth, the prosperity, and robustness of us all on this journey.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EIt was Parekura Horomia and Michael Cullen who, in 2005-06, took us to \u014Cp\u014Dtiki, where it became evident that one day we would have infrastructure built in \u014Cp\u014Dtiki. But it couldn\u2019t be done without the acquiescence or the support of Whakat\u014Dhea.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EOf course, that goes back earlier, in terms of the Helen Clark Government, when a Klondike\u2014a race for space\u2014took place around the coastline of New Zealand and an area that was focused upon by the entrepreneurs, by the strategists of that time, was to lock up coastal space off the rohe of Whakat\u014Dhea. Sealord originally showed some interest, but they disappeared. A cast of Lord knows how many people from the Orient came, and that soon disappeared. Then, eventually, working with some of the local P\u0101keh\u0101 kiwifruit farmers, local farmers, the initiative was funded to create an aquaculture industry for Whakat\u014Dhea, and it\u2019s that, which I\u2019ve referred to in our M\u0101ori language, that we have to build upon, because in a number of these areas, the model of Treaty settlements is, by and large, confined to the mana whenua boundaries. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThat\u2019s fine if your mana whenua, or asserted mana whenua, is the entirety of Te Wai Pounamu, or you have the good luck and serendipity of enjoying the fruits of the golden triangle. But if you live on an isolated part of this country, as is the case where I hail from in the very Far North, or are Whakat\u014Dhea, we need to be strategic and work collaboratively with the Crown and other private sector investors to make the resources that we have at our doorstep more valuable and turn them into a flow of goods and services. That is not only important to you and I in our own country but desirable to a global market.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI am very confident that once the dust settles around this settlement, there\u2019ll be the inevitable smoothing-out processes, you will seize the opportunity and work and build on the collaborative nature of the mahi that has been carried out over the last three to five years and create New Zealand\u2019s largest and most profitable and most desirable new platform of marine, blue ocean growth, otherwise known as m\u0101taitai, ng\u0101 k\u016Btai, ng\u0101 kuku, ng\u0101 porohe\u2014koia t\u0113n\u0101 te kupu i \u2018hakatupungia ai m\u0101tou m\u014D te k\u016Btai i a m\u0101tou i te nohinohi i roto i \u014D m\u0101tou k\u0101inga me \u014D m\u0101tou kuikuia. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EN\u0101 reira ng\u0101 mihi ki a koutou, e R\u014Dpata, e Te K\u0101haut\u016B, \u014D koutou tu\u0101kana kua pau ki te matemate, \u014D koutou m\u0101tua e m\u0101takitaki mai ana i a t\u0101tou i roto i t\u0113nei rangi. E maringi mai ana te roimata? T\u0113r\u0101 pea, engari meinga ko t\u0113n\u0101 roimata ehara ko te roimata t\u016Bp\u0101paku engari ko te roimata hari. \u0100p\u014Dp\u014D he huarahi ka kitea hei whakahihiko i te \u0101huatanga o \u0101 t\u0101tou tamariki kia minamina mai ai r\u0101tou kia t\u016B rangatira ai, \u0101-M\u0101ori, \u0101-tangata o roto o Aotearoa, \u0101-hapori, \u0101-pakihi, engari kia t\u016B tangata. Kia kaua rawa atu e haere, t\u0101mia, whakataimahangia ana e ng\u0101 k\u012Bhau o muri. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EKei te whiti te r\u0101 ki te ihu o te waka kei mua i a t\u0101tou. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou, kia ora t\u0101tau katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E[Otherwise known as shellfish, mussels, porohe\u2014that is the word that we were raised with for mussels when we were little in our homes with our grandmothers. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EAnd so greetings to you all, Robert, Te K\u0101haut\u016B, your seniors who have all passed on, your parents\u2019 generation who are watching us today. Are years being shed? Perhaps, but make that tear not be a tear of bereavement but instead a tear of joy. Tomorrow a path with be discovered to excite the circumstances of our children so that they will aspire to stand in nobility, as M\u0101ori, as people in Aotearoa, as communities, as businesses, but as confident people. So that they don\u2019t ever go along being oppressed, having difficulties imposed upon them by the sprits in behind. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThe sun is shining on the prow of the canoe in front of us. Thanks and greetings to you and all of us.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u0022c002c989d6f04960a856599018404b81\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c002c989d6f04960a856599018404b81\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: The next call is a split call between the Green Party and the National Party.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022 data-id=\u0022f14c351269c8453389f742986f609623\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f14c351269c8453389f742986f609623\u0022\u003ESTEVE ABEL (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora, Mr Speaker, thank you. Whakat\u014Dhea\u2014kia ora, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. In the context of the people defending their land, a man by the name of Mokomoko was wrongly accused of murdering the missionary V\u00F6lkner, and he was taken to Mt Eden Prison and he was hanged. His infamous words were, \u201CTake this noose from my neck that I may sing my song.\u201D I recall when I was first inducted into this Parliament in 2020 with Rawiri Waititi that Rawiri referenced this ancestor and said that he would make a claim for us to no longer have to wear ties in this House, in his reference to that ancestor when he gave his maiden speech. I am very sad that I was not able to be here for that maiden speech, but I remember that very well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003EAs I said in my second speech, the purpose of these settlements is to take the noose from the neck of M\u0101ori, the noose of colonisation. I indeed hope that this bill does this to some extent. The evils of Crown actions are not in contention. Sometimes, when you see a confused look on a P\u0101keh\u0101 or tangata Tiriti face, it is because when the wrongs that have been done today to M\u0101ori are protested against\u2014rightly\u2014by M\u0101ori, P\u0101keh\u0101, because we are ignorant of our history, don\u2019t understand. What is so important about these settlements, in part, is that they lay out the history\u2014the truth\u2014from a tangata whenua M\u0101ori perspective, from the perspective of Whakat\u014Dhea. It is told to us, it is laid bare, and, frankly, it is terrible reading. It makes one sick to the heart and sick to the stomach to see the atrocities committed by the British soldiers on behalf of the Crown against Whakat\u014Dhea.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003EThe ongoing taking of land, denying of resources, denying of customary entitlement, denying of the mana motuhake and the tino rangatiratanga is, rightly, to some extent, acknowledged and laid out in this very bill, in this deed of settlement, in the bill that will pass its third reading tonight. These words get locked in the history books of this House, and that is an important thing. And I call on all my fellow tangata Tiriti and P\u0101keh\u0101 to go and read this history. You will see a frequent pattern and you will see the incredible generosity and forgiveness of our tangata whenua partners in Te Tiriti o Waitangi. You will see the endless patience, you will know that you go to any marae in this nation and despite all the wrongs done, you will get \u201Chaere mai, haere mai, haere mai\u201D\u2014three times welcome. And it breaks my heart, because that is the generosity of tangata whenua M\u0101ori. And we are the beneficiaries of that generosity, as tangata Tiriti.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003ETe Tiriti o Waitangi is a profound basis on which to build a nation, and in this apology the Crown says that it \u201Cbetrayed that trust by waging war and confiscating Whakat\u014Dhea land in a raupatu for which the Crown alone is responsible.\u201D, and it goes on to lay out the\u00A0apology.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003EThere can be no legitimacy in our nationhood if it is not set in a principle of justice for M\u0101ori. We must know our history honestly and understand its impact to this very day. If we do not, then we will also not recognise the perpetuation of those injustices in the policy actions of today. I wish that this settlement goes some way to removing the noose from the neck of Whakat\u014Dhea, that you may sing your song. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022 data-id=\u0022cb04ddcc79484e3ba33fbcefe6c3c07c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cb04ddcc79484e3ba33fbcefe6c3c07c\u0022\u003EJOSEPH MOONEY (National\u2014Southland):\u003C/span\u003E Ki ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata o Whakat\u014Dhea e huihui mai nei, ki ng\u0101 hap\u016B e ono, Ng\u0101i Tamahaua, Ng\u0101ti Ira, Ng\u0101ti Ng\u0101here, Ng\u0101ti Patumoana, Ng\u0101ti Ruatakena, Te \u016Apokorehe. Nau mai haere mai ki t\u014D koutou Whare. He h\u014Dnore nui t\u0113nei ki au kia tautohu ai te p\u0101nui tuatoru o te pire.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003E[To the multitudes of Whakat\u014Dhea who are present here, to the six major tribes Ng\u0101i Tamahaua, Ng\u0101ti Ira, Ng\u0101ti Ng\u0101here, Ng\u0101ti Patumoana, Ng\u0101ti Ruatakena, Te \u016Apokorehe, welcome here to your Parliament. It is an honour for me to speak to this the third reading of the bill.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s an honour to rise to speak on the third reading of the Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill, and to acknowledge and recognise all of the members of Whakat\u014Dhea who are here today, and all those who are in distant parts of the country or around the world who will be listening to this, either now or in the future. I wish to acknowledge the incredibly hard work, and generations of work that have actually gone into getting us to this place here today for what will be a historic event that will complete tonight.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003EWe should acknowledge all of those who\u2019ve worked on the negotiation, both past and present. I acknowledge the previous Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations, the Hon Andrew Little, who I see is here today, for the work that he\u2019s done previously in the previous Government, and the present Minister who\u2019s completing this, the Hon Paul Goldsmith, and it speaks to the cross-party nature of this incredibly important work that New Zealand has done. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003ESeen around the world, I think, it is quite unique in that New Zealand has got an agreement between all political parties that we need to acknowledge the wrongs that were done in the past, we need to atone for them as best as we can, we need to create some space to apologise formally from the Crown for all the wrongs that were done in the past, and we need to provide for some economic base that the people\u2014in this case, Whakat\u014Dhea\u2014can use to create a future for themselves and for those who follow. And this is ultimately about creating a future for the people of Whakat\u014Dhea and a place where all of us can\u2014and I mean all people in this country\u2014come together and create a future for our children. Because that\u2019s, fundamentally, I think, one of the most important jobs that all of us have here in our time on this planet Earth, and in this country\u2014to build a better future for those who come after us. And that, fundamentally, is what this is about.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003EIn terms of acknowledging the past history, it\u2019s been touched on by previous speakers before me; I\u2019ll only touch on it briefly in the time I have available to me. But I think it\u2019s worth noting that in May 1840, seven Whakat\u014Dhea rangatira signed Te Tiriti o Waitangi, the Treaty of Waitangi, and by 1864 had developed a thriving agricultural economy, constructing a shipping fleet and trading extensively with the growing Auckland settlement. Whakat\u014Dhea embraced technology, built infrastructure, and developed political organisations to deal with economic and social change.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003EUnfortunately, after Crown forces landed in Tauranga in early 1864, things went wrong. In terms of the history, what happened was Whakat\u014Dhea joined other iwi in expeditions to support the K\u012Bngitanga. A number of Whakat\u014Dhea rangatira were killed, creating a considerable leadership vacuum in Whakat\u014Dhea. And then Carl V\u00F6lkner of the Church Missionary Society was hanged at \u014Cp\u014Dtiki in March 1865 after a meeting called by visiting Pai M\u0101rire missionaries, who demanded his death. Whakat\u014Dhea rangatira unsuccessfully argued that he should be spared, but the Crown held Whakat\u014Dhea responsible and that led to Crown forces invading Whakat\u014Dhea rohe in September 1865, and all of the deep injustices that followed in the losses of land, rangatiratanga, and language as well\u2014te reo M\u0101ori.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222170b5bd-171f-4d9f-bfa6-cab72178f108\u0022\u003EI just want to touch briefly on the value of te reo M\u0101ori. We\u2019ve had a huge project over the last few decades to rebuild this in our country. And I was fortunate recently to visit Taiwan and just get some perspective on the broad connection that has to our region, actually, because te reo M\u0101ori is part of the Austronesian languages. And one of my colleagues spoke some Tongan and M\u0101ori in Taiwan to one of the indigenous tribes that we visited, and they still, after a few thousand years, understood some of the words that she was using. And just connecting that we have this connection from Madagascar, on one side, to the Easter Islands and Hawaii, on the other, and Philippines, Taiwan to the North. So there\u2019s an incredible connection across New Zealand. Thank you, Mr Speaker. It\u2019s a pleasure to speak in support of this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022 data-id=\u002283f487b7da304220934c9baa30822933\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002283f487b7da304220934c9baa30822933\u0022\u003ERIMA NAKHLE (National\u2014Takanini):\u003C/span\u003E I rise on this profound occasion, an occasion that has been like a mirage in the distance for so many people over so many years. In rising, I recognise a history of indescribable pain, of unthinkable injustice, and of heart-wrenching ignominy for the people of Whakat\u014Dhea, but also for our nation as a whole. I rise to convey my heartfelt support of the Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill in its third and final reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EAllow me to extend a warm welcome to everyone in the gallery today, most of whom are part of the wider Whakat\u014Dhea wh\u0101nau, including the unstoppable Dickie Farrar, chief executive of the Whakat\u014Dhea M\u0101ori Trust Board, the hard-working Donald Riesterer, the forward-thinking Danny Paruru\u2014actually, I\u2019m not sure if I\u2019ve seen you today\u2014and the awe-inspiring Matua Robert Edwards. Welcome, all of you. Haere mai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EI hold the privilege and responsibility of serving on the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, chaired by my friend and colleague the MP for Northcote, Dan Bidois, who isn\u2019t here with us today because he\u2019s on paternal leave, blessed with a little Bidois. Dan took a deep interest and care as we, the new M\u0101ori Affairs Committee for the 54th Parliament, navigated our way through this bill, the first we had inherited as a committee. The Whakat\u014Dhea Claims Settlement Bill gives effect to the deed of settlement signed between the members of Whakat\u014Dhea and the Crown in May 2023. With a population of about 17,000, the Whakat\u014Dhea iwi is based on the Eastern Bay of Plenty\u2014and I would like to acknowledge the MP here, Dana Kirkpatrick for East Coast, and, of course, Cushla Tangaere-Manuel\u2014with a land interest of about 200,000 hectares, and comprises of six\u00A0hap\u016B. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EEach Treaty settlement has its own unique story. The Whakat\u014Dhea story spans over 180\u00A0years, beginning with the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi on this day, May 28, in 1840. Clause 8 of the settlement bill that we are discussing today outlines an agreed historical account, and sets the basis for the Crown\u2019s acknowledgment and apology in clauses 9 and 10 respectively. The historical account states that by 1864, as mentioned earlier by my colleague, Whakat\u014Dhea had developed a thriving agricultural economy, and had constructed a shipping fleet, which was trading prolifically with the growing Auckland settlement at the time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EBut matters turned horribly in 1865, when the Crown held Whakat\u014Dhea responsible for the death of missionary Carl V\u00F6lkner, and proceeded to punish Whakat\u014Dhea by declaring martial law, and adopting a disgusting scorched earth approach. The Crown\u2019s forces looted, plundered, and destroyed almost all in their midst. They enacted the only cavalry attack in New Zealand\u2019s history, and the lives of 45 men and women were tragically stolen as a result at Te Tarata P\u0101. Even reservation was established on confiscated land in \u014Cpape, where many people of Whakat\u014Dhea were forced to relocate to. Unsurprisingly, the once thriving Whakat\u014Dhea economy and infrastructure was, effectively, destroyed. This is but a fraction of the suffering inflicted upon the people of Whakat\u014Dhea. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EAlthough there is so much that has taken place in the Whakat\u014Dhea plight over 150\u00A0years, I will bring us to the more recent history for the purposes of this bill. In the 1990s, there was an unsuccessful attempt to settle, and after much soul-searching within Whakat\u014Dhea\u2014and, dare I say, within the Crown as well\u2014Treaty settlement negotiations began anew, under the Hon Christopher Finlayson, continued by the Hon Andrew Little, and now under the care of the Hon Paul Goldsmith. As I mentioned earlier, the bill is the first Treaty settlement that I have been directly involved with, and, in honesty, the process has been one that has moved me deeply and caused me to, at times, lay awake at night in reflection and contemplation; reflection on how the people of Whakat\u014Dhea live and carry on alongside their generational mamae\u2014like two parallel universes existing side by side\u2014and contemplation on the raw emotions that underpinned the submissions on this bill, both in support and in opposition.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EIt would be remiss of me to not acknowledge those voices who opposed the progression of this bill, in particular Matua Te Rua Rakuraku, whose sad but kind eyes I will never forget. When the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee travelled to \u014Cp\u014Dtiki in March of this year to hear the oral submissions, the depth of emotion behind all of them indeed stirred me. But, ultimately, I was able to see clearly, and I say this with all due respect\u2014that this Treaty settlement is for the greater good of Whakat\u014Dhea, and that the destination point always was, and always will be, a brighter future for the mokopuna of Whakat\u014Dhea.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EAs I mentioned in my second reading address on this bill, the Treaty settlement confers redress in financial, cultural, and commercial form to Whakat\u014Dhea. This settlement, in particular, is a trailblazer\u2014in two ways: first, that it confers 5,000 hectares of marine space to go to Whakat\u014Dhea for aquaculture endeavours; and two, that it allows for the Waitangi Tribunal to continue its Waitangi Tribunal district inquiry Wai 1750 pertaining to Whakat\u014Dhea, and to make findings, but not recommendations; two firsts of its kind in a Treaty settlement. I\u2019d like to, here, acknowledge Glenn Webber, Jacob Pollock, Jason Pou, and Maui Hudson for the mahi they did in facilitating these innovative solutions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EWhakat\u014Dhea is engraved in my heart for many reasons, but mostly for showing me what forgiveness can look like. And here I\u2019d like to acknowledge Dr Te Kahautu Maxwell, who I first witnessed many years ago at a Waitangi Tribunal on expressions of mana wahine in traditional M\u0101ori society. I was captivated, actually. I asked my friend Anne Kendall: \u201CWho is this gentle man?\u201D I\u2019d like to quote you, Doctor, because your submission helped with the struggles I was facing in terms of listening to the different submissions. This is translated: \u201CAllow te Whakat\u014Dhea to again stand in nobility. Allow te Whakat\u014Dhea to again be warmed by the rays of the sun, like te Whakat\u014Dhea has been waiting to do for 157 years. Allow te Whakat\u014Dhea to again be te Whakat\u014Dhea. Do not forget, I will never forget the mistreatment of the Crown, of myself, of te Whakat\u014Dhea, not ever, but allow te Whakat\u014Dhea to enter into the world of light, to rejuvenate te Whakat\u014Dhea, to cure its ailments, to return to me my health, my soul, my sovereignty\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EThank you, Whakat\u014Dhea, for your manaakitanga, for your lessons, and for your aroha. I honestly pray with all my heart that you can go forward into that brighter future that Dr Maxwell spoke about. I commend this bill to the House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022 data-id=\u00225d130964ecf245fd9542bd8f8790373d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00225d130964ecf245fd9542bd8f8790373d\u0022\u003EHon GINNY ANDERSEN (Labour): E te M\u0101ngai o te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 koe e te P\u012Bka, ko te mihi tuatahi ki te atua n\u0101na nei ng\u0101 mea katoa. Ko te mihi tuarua ki te Whare e t\u016B nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. \u0100piti hono t\u0101tai hono te hunga mate ki te hunga mate, \u0101piti hono t\u0101tai hono te hunga ora ki te hunga ora. Ka huri ahau ki a koutou, ng\u0101 hap\u016B o Whakat\u014Dhea, nau mai haere mai ki t\u014D t\u0101tou Whare. Nau mai haere mai ki t\u0113nei r\u0101, ko te r\u0101 o te p\u0101nuitanga tuatoru o t\u014D koutou pire. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002280383349407746228d1999aa184e68c6\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Madam Speaker. The first acknowledgment is to the God who created everything. Second acknowledgment to this standing House, greetings. The dead to the dead, the living to the living, the lines are joined. I turn to you, the people of Whakat\u014Dhea, welcome to our House. Welcome to this day, the day of the third reading of your bill. Thank you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EFirst of all, I would like to acknowledge te huarahi roa rawa atu [the long enduring pathway] that Whakat\u014Dhea have been on from the beginning of time until this point, right now, in time. There has been a long road of wrongs and hurt committed by the Crown to bring us to this point. The cumulative effects of that are recorded well in the bill that lies before this House today, and very well recorded in the Crown apology to Whakat\u014Dhea as well. Your settlement process started as far back as the 1990s. It has been a road indeed to bring us to this point in time. I would just like to, in English, give a warm mihi to all of you and to acknowledge the weight of history that you carry into this House today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003ELike my colleague Adrian Rurawhe, I would like my final speech on this bill to be one of hope; to be one of looking towards the world of light and the future that awaits not only you but the generations to come. But before I do that, I just have one thing I need to get off my chest. So there\u2019s going to be one negative point about the process of the Treaty settlement process that I would like to put down in this third reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EI first read of your history over 20 years ago when I was a new negotiator for the Office of Treaty Settlements, and I very quickly came to terms with the Crown\u2019s policy of what was the preference to only negotiate with large natural groups. I guess I would like to say that I saw firsthand how damaging and difficult that policy could be, and that Whakat\u014Dhea saw that up close and continues to feel the pain of that policy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EMy boss quit because of that policy. I was like one or two months into my first job in Wellington, and my boss quit and resigned as a result of him protesting to Ng\u0101ti Manawa, Ng\u0101ti Whare being tried to be shoehorned together and they were not. So right from the get-go, there were issues with how that policy was implemented and the feeling that it conveyed more hurt and pain in some instances when the efforts were trying to alleviate those.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EI would like to talk about the redress of kotahi rau miriona t\u0101ra [$1 million] and that that sum is there for the future and the sustenance of Whakat\u014Dhea and for your young people to take full advantage of. I note there are 33 vesting sites as well as part of the cultural redress. But one of the things I think is most exciting is the opportunities for aquaculture that lie ahead. The fact that there are 5,000 hectares of space in the coastal marine area and that only Whakat\u014Dhea may apply for those permits, I think that is a great opportunity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EBut with that, it is incumbent upon all of us to make sure our moana stay beautiful and clean and are able to be utilised for kai moana. There\u2019s no good having aquaculture if we don\u2019t have a water system that takes our paru water away and keeps our clean water clean. So your future is also reliant upon the decisions that happen in this country to make sure we look after the quality of our water, our beaches, and our kai moana.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EI would like to wrap up, I guess, by acknowledging that the apology written in your bill is detailed. It carries a lot of weight and it really clearly calls out the wrongs that have happened and the systematic separation of a people with their land and the devastation that has caused. I think it\u2019s incredibly important that we record that in this House, in legislation, not only so that we can tell those stories to our children but so people can read that in the years and years to come. Those words that are always so haunting to me, \u201CTangohia mai te taur\u0101 i taku kaki kia waiata au i taku waiata.\u201D [\u201CRemove the noose from my neck so that I can sing my song.\u201D] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EMy hope is that this settlement is a warm protective cloak for rangatahi to nourish and nurture them for the future; that you use this to, as the words of Rima Nakhle say, bring you into the full Te Ao M\u0101rama and take advantage of all of the opportunities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003EThere has never been a more challenging time for our rangatahi in this day and age in terms of the risks they face, the social media that broadcasts it, the substances available, and the fast cars. It\u2019s a scary world for our rangatahi, and I truly hope that this warm cloak provides the comfort, the sense of standing in your place and knowing who you are, and getting strength from your community to set those young people up as strong as they possibly can to face those struggles and to face their future strong and proud. N\u014D reira, he mihi mahana ki a koutou katoa. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022 data-id=\u0022bf75a861de2a468fb98e7c97933ea356\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bf75a861de2a468fb98e7c97933ea356\u0022\u003EGREG FLEMING (National\u2014Maungakiekie):\u003C/span\u003E Wh\u0101ia wh\u0101ia te ara matua. Wh\u0101ia wh\u0101ia te ara atua. Whakatikaia, whakatika. Whakam\u0101ramatia kia ora, whakam\u0101ramatia kia tau. \u012Ahoa o ng\u0101 mano, atua Kotahi, he r\u0101kau whakaora, he tokotoko whakahaumaru he rau oriwa. Ko te mauri o te rangi ka hono, ko te mauri o te papa ka tau. Tau mai te mauri whakamanamana. Tau mai te mauri whakam\u014Demiti. \u0100mine. Ae. \u0100mine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EKi ng\u0101 hap\u016B e ono o Whakat\u014Dhea e huihui mai nei m\u014D t\u0113nei rangi t\u012Bno whakahirahira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. I t\u0113r\u0101 wiki i k\u014Drero ahau e p\u0101 ana ki ng\u0101 w\u0101hi e toru o ia pire whakatau. Ko te tuatahi ko te h\u012Btori, tuarua m\u014D te whakap\u0101ha, tuatoru ko te puretumutanga. T\u0113nei te p\u0101nui tuatoru n\u0101 reira ka k\u014Drero i t\u0113nei r\u0101 e p\u0101 ana ki te w\u0101hi tuatoru. Ki te hua o t\u0113nei whakaaetanga. Ko te t\u016Bmanako. Ka huri in\u0101ianei ki te reo P\u0101keh\u0101 kia m\u0101rama ai \u014Dku whakaaro ki ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata katoa. Kei te mutunga o taku k\u014Drero ka hoki ki te reo o te whenua nei. Ki te reo o te rongopai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003E[Pursue the right pathway. Pursue the pathway to god. Be it with righteousness. Be it with good health and enlightenment. Almighty God, the one ruler, a tree of life, a tokotoko of shelter, an oriwa leaf. The power of the skies unite with the powers of the land. Bestow upon thee power of strength. Conjure the power of god. Amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003ETo the six nations of Whakat\u014Dhea who are here on this special day, greetings to you all. Last week, I spoke to the three parts of the settlement bill. The first is the history, the second is the apology, and the third is the redress. This is the third reading and so I will speak today about the third part, to the benefits of this settlement. I hope. I now speak in English so that you can all understand my thoughts. At the end of my speech, I will return to the language of this land. To the language of peace.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EI said, last week, that the primary reason that I sought to come to this House was to advocate for the flourishing of communities, and none more so than iwi and hap\u016B. I\u2019ve spent my life doing everything I can to help people and families navigate the obstacles that life has thrown at them, and there are none in this land that have endured as much for as long as have our very first communities, which is why I so delight in what we are doing today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EI\u2019ve seen firsthand the impact of Treaty settlements, the ability they bring for iwi to build homes, to start businesses, to fashion schools, to deliver medical services, to directly assist their wh\u0101nau, and to see language and tikanga flourish anew; the ability, the space, the resources to genuinely pursue tino rangatiratanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EOver this past summer, I read Dr Ned Fletcher\u2019s book titled The English Text of the Treaty of Waitangi. It\u2019s an astonishing piece of work, one that I would urge every member of this House to thoughtfully engage with\u2014as I would Dr Sam Carpenter\u2019s many articles over the past decade. These researchers and others have done the painstaking work to help us understand the context, the complexities, and the beautiful simplicity of what our ancestors signed, that sun-drenched day in 1840 and in the months that followed, including your t\u016Bpuna.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EWhat is, I believe, incredibly clear is that tino rangatiratanga was the very essence of what was agreed to and that tino rangatiratanga, the ability and the authority for every iwi to pursue its own flourishing, to care and provide for its own people, remains, as it was then, the very best hope of those communities today. And that is the hope that permeates, that drives, and that emerges from a Treaty settlement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EThere was a fantastic picture this morning at the mihi whakatau of what might come after a Treaty claim is settled. Whakat\u014Dhea occupied most of the room, and there were just two rows of Government officials, and we were facing them. Behind the Government was another large space, and that was filled with all the waiting food. Our kaum\u0101tua, Kura, finished the proceedings by thanking Whakat\u014Dhea for their grace and love and then said, \u201CWell, the food\u2019s ready over there, so can I just ask the Crown to get out of the way?\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EThis is the first settlement I\u2019ve had the privilege of working on, and I still can\u2019t believe it\u2019s Whakat\u014Dhea. I was in Vancouver, Canada, 10 years ago next month, with my then 13-year-old daughter. It was Canada\u2019s national holiday, and Annabelle and I biked through Stanley Park to where wagons of fruit were loaded with every kind of summer berry you could imagine. We collected what seemed like several tonnes and, for the next hour, gorged ourselves. But there was something even sweeter than the berries; beside our picnic was a group of young adults swapping continuously between French and English. They were effortlessly bilingual. I don\u2019t think they were even conscious of what they were doing. It just emanated from them. A dream was planted in my heart, that day, that has grown ever since. And when I think of what that could look like in New Zealand, of where that could be, my imagination turns to \u014Cp\u014Dtiki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EThat March weekend, when we as a select committee visited you, I got a glimpse of vision of what could be. You see, my own journey with the reo has been most skilfully watered and most graciously tended by one of your own: Anameka Paenga. Go easy on her husband next week, Doctor. And, right now at Te W\u0101nanga Ihorangi, she is doing the same for my son. Imagine an \u014Cp\u014Dtiki where the reo sings in every home and every school and on every farm. I know it already does, but imagine if it was everywhere, where it rolled like a river and flowed like a never-ending stream. And imagine an \u014Cp\u014Dtiki where every family flourishes in its identity, where your businesses and farms on both land and sea abound so that every family prospers, where your schools are the envy of the country, your community is marked by grace and peace. I know this is your vision. I\u2019ve heard the ache in each of your k\u014Drero.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EUncle Robert returned home 21 years ago to retire. Instead, he was called to bring together the people of Whakat\u014Dhea that their community might thrive again. Today, that first part of that vision is realised, and that\u2019s why this is such an extraordinary moment, for, after generations of struggle, Whakat\u014Dhea enter a new season. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003ELast week, I read to you in the language of our land and heavens, the Government\u2019s apology for the pain inflicted. That apology and the history it addresses are now written for ever into the records of this House, and they will never be forgotten. And now we get to look forward. That\u2019s the beauty of reconciliation, of forgiveness, of hope. None of us need to be bound by the past. We are formed by it. But by the grace of Atua, we get to choose our tomorrow, and that\u2019s what Whakat\u014Dhea have done. You\u2019ve chosen to craft a new future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EThis morning, Te Kahautu called for the lament, the loss, the suffering to be brought forward. And then he said this: \u201CKua tae mai te w\u0101. T\u0113nei te w\u0101 o te whakapono, o te t\u016Bmanako, o te rangim\u0101rie.\u201D The time has arrived. Now is the time for faith, for hope, for peace. In last week\u2019s second reading, Shane Jones spoke of the centrality of your Ringat\u016B faith to the strength and identity of Whakat\u014Dhea. He\u2019s right. It emanates from you. It is the foundation of who you are, and it is why you have such capacity to forgive, to believe, and to hope.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003ELast night, as I was praying for you, my heart\u2019s thoughts turned to the prophet Joel, to the words he spoke from his God to the people in their sadness. They are a promise to you: \u201C\u0101 ka meinga e ia te ua, t\u014D mua ua, me t\u014D muri ua, kia heke iho m\u0101 koutou i te marama tuatahi. \u0100 ka kapi ng\u0101 patunga witi i te witi; ko te w\u0101ina an\u014D me te hinu o ng\u0101 waka, p\u016Brena tonu. \u0100 ka whakahokia mai e ahau ki a koutou ng\u0101 tau i k\u0101inga e te m\u0101whitiwhiti ... Ka kai noa atu an\u014D koutou, ka m\u0101kona, ka whakamoemiti hoki ki te ingoa o Ihow\u0101, o t\u014D koutou Atua, m\u014D tana mahi whakam\u012Bharo ki a koutou: e kore an\u014D t\u0101ku iwi e whakam\u0101 \u0101 ake ake.\u201D He sends you abundant showers, both autumn and spring rains, as before. The threshing floors will be filled with grain. The vats will overflow with new wine and oil and milk and mussels. I will repay you for the years the locusts have eaten. You will have plenty to eat until you are full, and you will praise the name of your God, who has worked wonders for you. Never again will my people be shamed. Whakamoemiti ki te Atua o te tino rangim\u0101rie. Kor\u014Dria ki t\u014Dna ingoa tapu. \u0100mene. [Thanks be to the God of absolute peace. Glory to his sacred name. Amen.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022 data-id=\u0022deb6e7c2ee9749f6af5ad85eb842537e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022deb6e7c2ee9749f6af5ad85eb842537e\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: This is a split call.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022 data-id=\u0022a587942d119f4651a6a751af00db6113\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a587942d119f4651a6a751af00db6113\u0022\u003EHon PEENI HENARE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare. To my uncle Te Kahautu, whose plaudits are well earned here in the House today, he might not have seen, but my tuakana and I\u2014Rawiri\u2014went out into the lobby to talk about how we talk about the time over the next wee while, while we continue to read the bill, and Rawiri said to me, \u201CPeeni, don\u2019t get greedy with the time.\u201D He said, \u201CYou\u2019ve already got Mataatua waka; don\u2019t take anything else.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u0112ngari ka t\u016B t\u0113nei uri a Te P\u0101puni r\u0101ua ko T\u0101peka kia mihi atu ki \u014Dku rahi o Te Whakat\u014Dhea kua tat\u016B iho mai nei ki runga i t\u0113nei kaupapa whakahirahira rawa atu. Inanahi r\u0101 i tae atu ahau ki \u014Cmarumutu kia kite atu i te takotoranga o \u014Dku m\u0101tua \u014Dku t\u016Bpuna. N\u0101 runga i te m\u014Dhio ka p\u0101nui te Whare i t\u0113nei pire, tana p\u0101nuitanga tuatoru ki roto i te whare i te r\u0101 nei. Hei whakam\u0101 i t\u014Dku wairua, hei whakam\u0101 i t\u014Dku kiri, hei tauawhi i t\u014Dku mauri kia mahi i \u0113nei mahi porotiki, \u0113nei mahi t\u014Drangap\u016B. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti kua ora mai an\u014D, kua ora mai an\u014D i te kitenga atu i \u014Dku t\u016Bpuna ki roto o \u014Cmarumutu ki roto o Te Whakat\u014Dhea. E te p\u0101pa, e Te Kahautu kua rongo atu ahau i te k\u014Drero a t\u014Dku matua a Shane Jones e meingia ana, \u0101e, e tangi, engari kaua i te tangi m\u014D te t\u016Bp\u0101paku. Heoi an\u014D t\u0101ku atu ki a koe, e taku matua, koin\u0101 te pai o te reo M\u0101ori. Ka t\u012Bkina atu e ahau te kupu roimata. He aha t\u0113nei mea te roimata? He tohu o te mamae, he tohu o te aroha, he\u00A0tohu o te mokemoke, he tohu o te harikoa. Ko aua \u0101huatanga katoa o te tangata ka kapohia e t\u0113nei kupu iti nei, a roimata. N\u014D reira ki ng\u0101 puna roimata, ki a koutou katoa e kawe nei i te roimata o te w\u0101 k\u0101inga ki t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 whare, e mihi atu ana, e tangi atu ana. K\u0101ti, e te M\u0101ngai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E[However, I, the descendant of Te P\u0101puni and T\u0101peka, stand to acknowledge my people of Te Whakat\u014Dhea who have assembled here on this auspicious occasion. Yesterday, I travelled to \u014Cmarumutu to see the geography of my elders and my ancestors. Knowing that the House will read the third reading of this bill here in the House today. To cleanse my spirit, to cleanse my skin, and to settle my nerves and do politics. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EAnd so feel well. I feel well having seen my elders at \u014Cmarumutu, in Te Whakat\u014Dhea. Dear sir, Te Kahautu, I hear what my Uncle Shane has said, it is OK to cry. But don\u2019t cry the mourn for our loved ones. However, what I have to say to you, sir, that is the beauty of the M\u0101ori language. If I speak to the word \u201Croimata\u201D. What is this thing \u201Croimata\u201D? It means hurt. It means love. It means lonely. It means happiness. All those emotions of a person can be described in this one word, \u201Croimata\u201D. And so to the pool of tears, to you all who are carrying the tears of our people to this House here, I acknowledge you, I sympathise with you.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI was reading the bill here, and the part that stuck out to me the most says, on page 4, \u201CIn our view, delaying the bill would frustrate the will of [Te] Whakat\u014Dhea\u201D, so I don\u2019t wish to continue any longer\u2014I\u2019d hate for my relations to be frustrated even further\u2014but I will finish and conclude my contribution with the words I said in the second reading, and I\u2019ll say it in M\u0101ori and I\u2019ll translate it: t\u0113nei mea te whakapapa e kore e taea te karo [our genealogy can never be cast aside]\u2014the beauty of our genealogy is it can never be cast aside. That\u2019s the strength that I know Te Whakat\u014Dhea will take into the future, and I wish them all the very best on this journey and say to them, m\u0101 te atua koutou e man\u0101ki e tiaki kia tae pai ai koutou ki te w\u0101 k\u0101inga [may the god look over you, protect you on your return home]. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, kia ora t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022 data-id=\u00229fb6d5aecd7a4032a1597e0c80f32c5a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229fb6d5aecd7a4032a1597e0c80f32c5a\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: The next call is also a split call, and I understand an arrangement has been made for it to be a 10-minute call and there is no objection.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022 data-id=\u0022339061e845dc497cbb2f6b7e1b97aedc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022339061e845dc497cbb2f6b7e1b97aedc\u0022\u003ERAWIRI WAITITI (Co-Leader\u2014Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou. E Te Whakat\u014Dhea, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou e hui tahi nei i t\u0113nei r\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou i te \u0101huatanga o t\u0113nei whakariterite o t\u0101tou. Ka roa nei t\u0101tou e whanga mai ki t\u0113nei r\u0101. Ka roa nei \u014D t\u0101tou m\u0101tua t\u012Bpuna i te p\u014D e whanga mai kia ara an\u014D hoki w\u0101 r\u0101tou mokopuna, a Te Whakat\u014Dhea. E kore au e ngaro, e kore au e ngaro. Hakoa ng\u0101 aup\u0113hitanga o te w\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000436\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EKotahi noa iho te mahi i t\u0113nei r\u0101. Ko te takutaku, ko te whakamoemiti. Kua oti ng\u0101 k\u014Drero. Kua oti ng\u0101 mihi. N\u014D reira e ng\u0101 \u0101ritaritatanga a te Matua Tangata, e ng\u0101 toenga o ng\u0101 tamariki a Iharaira. Kotahi noa iho te mahi i t\u0113nei r\u0101. He whakamoemiti. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000437\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EKia \u012Bnoi t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000438\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EHe h\u014Dnore, he kor\u014Dria, he maung\u0101rongo ki te whenua, he whakaaro pai ki ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata katoa, \u0101mine. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000439\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EE Ihowa, e te Karaiti, e te Wairua Tapu, t\u0113nei m\u0101tou \u0101u pononga e tuku whakamoemiti, whakawh\u0113tai atu ki a koe i runga i te \u0101huatanga i waihotia e koe i te w\u0101 i a Mohi, i te w\u0101 i a Aperehama, i \u0101 r\u0101ua e patu nei i te R\u0113me Tapu i a koe, tae ake r\u0101 ki t\u014D tama kotahi, ki a Ihu Karaiti, e maringi ana tana toto ki runga i te whenua. I r\u012Bpekatia ia, e Ihowa, e t\u014D m\u0101tou Matua, hei puru toto, hei here toto m\u014D m\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000440\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EKia aroha mai koe ki \u014D m\u0101tou h\u0113, ng\u0101 ngoikoiretanga, h\u012Bangatanga katoa. Kauparea atu \u014D m\u0101tou hara kia tarea e m\u0101tou te noho h\u0101koa ki mua i t\u014Du aroaro i t\u0113nei r\u0101. Ka tiki ake au i ng\u0101 kupu a te waiata a P\u0101ora, e mea ana ko te karakia whakapakoko, ko te makutu, ko te mau\u0101hara, ko ng\u0101 whawhai, ko ng\u0101 tauwh\u0101inga, ko ng\u0101 riri, ko ng\u0101 totohe, ko ng\u0101 wehewehenga, ko ng\u0101 t\u012Btorehanga, ko ng\u0101 hae, ko ng\u0101 k\u014Dhuru, ko ng\u0101 haurangitanga, ko ng\u0101 kakainga, me ng\u0101 mea e rite ana ki \u0113nei, me k\u014Drero wawe ahau \u0113nei mea ki a koutou, me p\u0113r\u0101 me t\u0101ku i k\u014Drero ai i mua: te hunga e mahi ana i ng\u0101 mea p\u0113nei, e kore r\u0101tou e whiwhi ki te rangatiratanga o te Atua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000441\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EKo ng\u0101 hua ia o te wairua ko te aroha, ko te hari, ko te maung\u0101rongo, ko te manawanui, ko te ng\u0101wari, ko te ng\u0101kaupai, ko te whakapono, ko te ng\u0101kau m\u0101haki, ko te ng\u0101kau ka taea te p\u0113hi. Kahore he ture i r\u012Bria ai \u0113nei mea.\u00A0\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003ETe hunga ia o te Karaiti kua r\u012Bpekatia e r\u0101tou te kikokiko, me \u014Dna hihiritanga, me \u014Dna hiahia i te mea e ora ana t\u0101tou i roto i te wairua, kia haere an\u014D t\u0101tou i roto i te wairua. Whakar\u0113rea e t\u0101tou te kor\u014Dria huakore, te whakap\u0101taritari t\u0113tahi ki t\u0113tahi, te hae a t\u0113tahi ki t\u0113tahi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000443\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EE Ihowa, e te Karaiti, e te Wairua Tapu, whakarongo ki ng\u0101 whakamoemiti, ki te ng\u0101kau hihiko, ki te ng\u0101kau a Te Whakat\u014Dhea kua whakawh\u0101iti nei ki roto i t\u0113nei Whare ka roa nei e aup\u0113hi nei i a t\u0101tou. T\u0113nei, e Ihowa, e t\u014D m\u0101tou Atua, te whakamoemiti atu ki a koe i runga i te \u0101huatanga i waihotia e \u014D t\u0101tou m\u0101tua t\u012Bpuna i te p\u014D.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000444\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EKia h\u012Bkina ng\u0101 taumahatanga, kia h\u012Bkina te kapua ka roa nei e whakapura nei i a Te Whakat\u014Dhea, kia h\u012Bkina te haki o Ingarangi ka roa nei e whakatakotoria ki runga i t\u014D iwi, i a Te Whakat\u014Dhea i t\u0113nei r\u0101. Kia whai an\u014D hoki a Te Whakat\u014Dhea i te m\u0101ramatanga, \u0101 t\u0101tou mokopuna m\u014D ng\u0101 r\u0101 e haere ake nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000445\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EWhakataiepangia a Te Whakat\u014Dhea ki t\u014Du mana whakaora hei \u0101rai atu i ng\u0101 whakawainga o te ao, a te kikokiko, a te R\u0113wera, a te \u016Bpoko ariki a kiriweti me te porohae kia noho ko koe te Atua kei mua, kei muri, kei t\u0113tahi taha, kei t\u0113tahi taha o m\u0101tou i ng\u0101 w\u0101 katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000446\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003ET\u0113nei m\u0101tou, e Ihowa, e t\u014D m\u0101tou Atua, te whakamoemiti atu ki a koe, n\u0101hau an\u014D hoki a Te Whakat\u014Dhea i arahi ki runga i ng\u0101 huarahi, ki ng\u0101 kapua i te rangi kia tae pai mai ki t\u0113nei huihuinga o m\u0101tou i t\u0113nei r\u0101. E kore te waewae tutuki e tutuki, kia tiakina r\u0101tou i a r\u0101tou e h\u012Bkoi ana i runga i ng\u0101 tiriti p\u016Bkohu t\u0101iri o P\u014Dneke, \u0101, i t\u0101 r\u0101tou whakahoki atu ki \u014D r\u0101tou k\u0101inga.\u00A0\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000447\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003ETiakina r\u0101tou, e Ihowa, e t\u014D m\u0101tou Atua. Tukuna mai ko t\u014D Wairua Tapu, ko t\u014Du mana whakaora, ko t\u014D ringa whakakaha ki runga i a Te Whakat\u014Dhea i t\u0113nei r\u0101. H\u012Bkina, h\u012Bkina ng\u0101 taumahatanga ka roa nei e whakataumaha nei i a t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000448\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira e Ihowa, e t\u014D m\u0101tou Atua, t\u0113nei m\u0101tou te whakamoemiti atu ki a koe i runga i te ingoa o t\u0101u tama, o Ihu Karaiti, t\u014D m\u0101tou kaiwhakaora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000449\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EE ko te waiata a R\u0101wiri e waru tekau m\u0101 rima.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EE Ihowa kua aro mai koe ki t\u014Du whenua; kua whakahokia mai e koe a H\u0101kopa i whakaponongatia nei. Kua murua e koe te kino o t\u014Du iwi, kua h\u012Bpokina e koe \u014D r\u0101tou hara katoa. Kua whakak\u0101horetia katoatia e koe t\u014Du weriweri. Kua tahuri atu koe i te \u0101ritaritatanga o t\u014D riri. Whakahokia ake m\u0101tou, e te Atua, o t\u014D m\u0101tou whakaoranga. Ka whakarongo atu ahau ki t\u0101 te Atua, ki t\u0101 lhowa e k\u014Drero ai, n\u014D te mea hoki m\u014D te rongo mau \u0101na korero ki t\u014Dna iwi, ki t\u014Dna hunga tapu hoki kaua ia r\u0101tou e hoki atu ki te wairangi. He pono e tata ana t\u0101na whakaoranga ki te hunga e wehi ana i a ia, kia noho ai te kor\u014Dria ki t\u014D t\u0101tou whenua. Kua t\u016Btaki te mahi tohu r\u0101ua ko te pono. Kua kihi ki a r\u0101ua te tika me te rongomau. E tipu ake te pono i te whenua, e titiro iho te tika i te rangi. \u0100e ka homai e lhowa te mea pai, ka tukua mai \u014Dna hua e t\u014D t\u0101tou whenua. Ka haere te tika ki mua i a ia, hei whakaatu i a t\u0101tou ki te ara o \u0101na h\u012Bkoinga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EI te timatanga te Kupu, i te Atua te Kupu, ko te Atua ano te Kupu. I te Atua ano t\u0113nei Kupu i te timatanga. N\u0101na ng\u0101 mea katoa i hanga; kahore kau hoki t\u0113tahi mea i kore te hanga e ia o ng\u0101 mea i hangaia. I a ia te ora; ko te ora te m\u0101ramatanga m\u014D ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata katoa. I roto i te p\u014Duri te m\u0101ramatanga e whiti ana, heoi k\u012Bhai i mau i te p\u014Duri. Kor\u014Dria ki t\u014D ingoa tapu, \u0101mine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EE Ihowa, e pono m\u0101u m\u0101tou e p\u012Bkau, m\u0101u an\u014D hoki \u0101 m\u0101tou p\u014Duritanga e w\u0101hi, [Inaudible] o ng\u0101 mea hara katoa e iri nei i te ao. Kor\u014Dria ki t\u014D ingoa tapu, \u0101mine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EE Ihowa, whakap\u016Bmautia mai t\u014Du m\u0101ramatanga ki a m\u0101tou, \u0101u pononga, i t\u0113nei r\u0101 n\u0101 te mea n\u0101u te rangi me te whenua, ka whakap\u0101oho ana koe i runga i te kare o ng\u0101 wai, \u0101, ka k\u012B koe, \u201CKia m\u0101rama\u201D, n\u0101 ka m\u0101rama. I muri ka hang\u0101 e koe te tangata kia rite ki a koe te \u0101hua, na i reira ka puta t\u0101u manaaki kia huhua, kia tini, kia kapi katoa te whenua i \u0101 k\u014Drua, \u0101, hei rangatira k\u014Drua m\u014D ng\u0101 mea katoa i te whenua k\u012Bhai i mau tao, tae noa mai ki t\u0113nei r\u0101.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E[Inaudible] otir\u0101 e kore e puta noa mai te oranga m\u0101 te inoi anake, m\u0101 te noho puku. Ae r\u0101, manaakitia mai m\u0101tou, e Ihowa, i t\u0113nei r\u0101. Kor\u014Dria ki t\u014D ingoa tapu, \u0101mine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000455\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EKia whakapaingia ki a koe, e Ihowa, e t\u014D m\u0101tou Matua nui i te rangi, n\u014Du hoki te nui, te mana, te kor\u014Dria, te wikit\u014Dria, te h\u014Dnore, n\u014Du hoki ng\u0101 mea katoa i te rangi, i te whenua, n\u0101u an\u014D hoki te rangatiratanga e kore nei e mutu. Ka whakamoemiti atu m\u0101tou ki a koe m\u014Du i waihotia hei upoko m\u014D ng\u0101 iwi katoa o t\u0113nei ao, kia whakapaingia e koe i t\u0113nei w\u0101 haora hoki, \u0101, \u0101ke tonu ake. Kor\u014Dria ki t\u014D ingoa tapu, \u0101mine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000456\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E[Inaudible] e te Atua i t\u014D hunga tapu e noho iho nei i te rangi kia tata t\u014Du ringa ki te whakaora i a m\u0101tou ki te whai i ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata r\u0101nea i t\u014Du aroaro e r\u0101weke ana i te riri e nui ana t\u014D mahi tohu. E pai ana koe, e Ihowa, i ng\u0101 mea katoa i runga i a m\u0101tou t\u0101u manaakitanga. Kor\u014Dria ki t\u014D ingoa tapu, \u0101mine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003ET\u0113tahi w\u0101hi o te inoi a te Ariki. E t\u014D m\u0101tou Matua i te rangi, kia tapu. Kia tapu t\u014Du ingoa, kia tae mai. Kia tae mai t\u014Du rangatiratanga, kia meatia. Kia meatia t\u0101u e pai ai ki runga i te whenua ki rite an\u014D ki t\u014D te rangi, ka whakamoemiti. Ka whakamoemiti nei hoki m\u0101tou ki a koe, ki te whakakor\u014Dria ki t\u014D ingoa tapu, \u0101mine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EE te Atua, tahuri mai \u014Du taringa, whakarongo mai ki \u014D m\u0101tou inoi kua ngaro atu koe i a au e tangi atu nei. Anga mai, titiro ki a m\u0101tou e p\u014Dkaikaha nei, e tangi nei hoki. Kor\u014Dria ki t\u014D ingoa tapu, \u0101mine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EE te Atua, whakatuwheratia mai ng\u0101 k\u016Baha o te tika, o te pono, o te m\u0101ramatanga, o te ora ki a m\u0101tou, \u0101u pononga, i t\u0113nei r\u0101. M\u0101 m\u0101tou an\u014D hoki koe e whakamoemiti, e whakakor\u014Dria ki t\u014D ingoa tapu, \u0101mine. Kia ora t\u0101tou.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E[Greetings, all. Te Whakat\u014Dhea, greetings to us all here meeting today. Greetings to us in regards to the matter at hand. We have been waiting for this day for a long time. Our ancestors of the night have been waiting for their descendants, Whakat\u014Dhea, to arise for a very long time. We will never be lost\u2014we will never be lost. Despite the suppression of the time.\u00A0\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EThere is only one thing left to do today. It is to recite karakia, it is to express gratitude. Enough has been said. The acknowledgments have been made. Therefore, to the irascibleness of the Mortal Father, the children of Israel.\u00A0There is only one thing left to do today. It is to express gratitude.\u00A0\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000462\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003ELet us pray.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000463\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EHonour, glory, peace on earth, goodwill to all people, amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000464\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EO God, the Christ, the Holy Spirit, we, your servants, offer thanks and praise to you in the manner that you left in the time of Moses, in the time of Abraham, and their sacrifice of the Sacred Lamb to you, including your only son, Jesus Christ, whose blood was spilt on to the land. He was crucified, oh Lord, our father, to be a bandage and tourniquet for us.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000465\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EForgive us our sins, our weaknesses, and all of our deceits. Avert our sins so that we may gladly sit in your presence this day. I quote the words of the psalm of Paul, that says the worship of idols, sorcery, animosity, conflict, rivalry, conflict, contention, separation, division, jealousy, murder, inebriation, gluttony, and things like this, I must confess all of these things to you, it should be as I said earlier: those that execute such actions will not receive the kingdom of God.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EThe fruits of the spirit are love, joy, peace, resoluteness, patience, virtue, faith, humility, and the heart that can be suppressed. There is no law that conflicted with these things.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EThe people of Christ whose flesh was crucified by them, and his desires, and his needs because we are alive in spirit, let us continue on in spirit. We cast out conceit, inciting strife amongst each other, and jealousy of each other.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000468\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EO God, Christ, and Holy Spirit, listen to our prayers, to our invigorated hearts, to the heart of Te Whakat\u014Dhea who have assembled here within this House, which has oppressed us for so long. We, o God, our Father, praise you in the manner that was bequeathed to us by our forebears who have passed into the night.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000469\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003ELet the difficulties be lifted, let the cloud that has long blinded Te Whakat\u014Dhea be lifted, let the flag of England that has laid upon your people, Te Whakat\u014Dhea, be lifted this day. So that Te Whakat\u014Dhea may pursue understanding, and also our grandchildren for the days to come.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000470\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EEncircle Te Whakat\u014Dhea with your healing power to ward off the temptations of the world, of the flesh, of the Devil, the paramount lord of bad temper and envy so that you, o God, are before, behind, and at each side of us at all times.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000471\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EWe, o Lord, our God, praise you who lead Te Whakat\u014Dhea along the roads and the clouds in the sky in order to arrive safely to this assembly of ours this day. The foot that stumbles will not stumble, protect them as they walk along the streets of Wellington that lay heavy with fog, and as they return to their homes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000472\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EProtect them, o Lord, our God. Issue forth your Holy Spirit, your healing power, and your strengthening hand upon Te Whakat\u014Dhea this day. Lift, lift the difficulties that have plagued us for so long.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000473\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EAnd so, o Lord, our God, we praise you in the name of your son, Jesus Christ, our saviour.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000474\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EThe psalm of David eighty five.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000475\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EYou, Lord, showed favour to your land; you restored the fortunes of Jacob. You forgave the iniquity of your people and covered all their sins. You set aside all your wrath. You turned from us your fierce anger. Restore us again, our God, and put away your displeasure toward us. I will listen to what God the Lord says; he promises peace to his people, his faithful servants, but let them not turn to folly. Surely his salvation is near those who fear him, that his glory may dwell in our land. Love and faithfulness meet together; righteousness and peace kiss each other. Faithfulness springs forth from the earth, and righteousness looks down from heaven. The Lord will indeed give what is good, and our land will yield its harvest. Righteousness goes before him and prepares the way for his steps.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000476\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EIn the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of all people. And the light shines in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000477\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EO God, in truth you carry us, you also sunder our dejection, [Inaudible] of all sinful things that are suspended on the world. Glory to your holy name, amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000478\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EO Lord, make permanent your light upon us, your servants, this day because heaven and earth is yours, and you floated above the ripples of the waters, and you said, \u201CLet there be light\u201D and there was light. And later mankind was created by you in your image, and at that point your care was such that they multiplied and became numerous, and all the land was covered by you, and you are lord over all things on the land that did not take up the spear, to this very day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000479\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E[Inaudible] indeed wellbeing will not come from prayer and fasting alone. Yes indeed, care for us, o Lord, this day. Glory to your holy name, amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000480\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EBlessed be your name, o Lord, our great Father in heaven, yours is the greatness, the power, the glory, the victory, the honour, and all things are yours in heaven and on earth, yours is the eternal kingdom. We praise you who have left for us the head of all peoples of the world, blessed be you at this time, and forever and ever. Glory to your holy name, amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000481\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E[Inaudible] o God your holy company that reside in heaven so that your hand may be close to us to save us in order to pursue the many people in your presence that manipulate conflict, great are your instructive actions. You are good, o Lord, in all things is your care upon us. Glory to your holy name, amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000482\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EAn excerpt from the Lord\u2019s prayer. Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed. Hallowed by thy name, cometh. Thy kingdom come, be done. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven, we praise. We praise you to glorify your holy name, amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000483\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EO God, turn to us your ears, listen to our prayers, you have become lost to me in my grief. Face us, look upon us in our struggles and our grief. Glory to your holy name, amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000484\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003EO God, open wide the doors of righteousness, truth, light and life to us, our servants, this day. We will praise and honour your holy name, amen. Greetings to all of us.]\u00A0\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u002248e733e8789d4d61ad4f69765665628f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000485\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002248e733e8789d4d61ad4f69765665628f\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Bit of a hard act to follow there, brother. Jeez\u2014jeez!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000486\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e2b1880d14834166b9b72052ba4ab11a\u0022\u003ERawiri Waititi\u003C/span\u003E: It\u2019s not an act.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000487\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225e9644266c1e4c6ca900b15672cd11f1\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: I realise that. \u0112ngari tuatahi e mihi ana kia koutou Whakat\u014Dhea. Tae mai nei i t\u0113nei w\u0101, i whakarangatira i a m\u0101tou i t\u0113nei w\u0101. Mihi ana ki a koutou. He w\u0101 roa \u0113ngari, ka mutu t\u0113nei haerenga. K\u0101ore i te tiki te mahi whakataunga \u0113ngari, ka whai w\u0101hi tonu te whakataunga m\u014D ng\u0101 reanga hou, n\u014D reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000488\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[Firstly, acknowledgments to you, Whakat\u014Dhea. Arrived here today, we are honoured that you are here today. Thank you all. It has been an enduring time; however, it has come to an end. The settlement wasn\u2019t made right, but the settlement will benefit the future generation, and so greetings to you all. Thank you everyone here today.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000489\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWe\u2019re very lucky in the House to have that type of contribution, in all seriousness, from the member Rawiri Waititi\u2014from your member, Whakat\u014Dhea. That type of karakia or k\u014Drero has never been done in the House, so I mihi to my good mate and whanaunga Rawiri for putting that forward in the House, because that is what it\u2019s all about. So mihi ana ki a koe, Rawiri.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000490\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWhen I was looking at this kaupapa, and I\u2019ve been listening to some of the k\u014Drero today\u2014some magnificent k\u014Drero\u2014I think the Whakat\u014Dhea kaupapa is the best example of how badly the Treaty settlement process went. I\u2019m not talking about the recent settlement, Minister; I\u2019m talking about the history. I\u2019m talking about 1995, when our good friend Ranginui Walker said no\u2014he said no to this process. He said no because he said that the Crown picks winners, the Crown picks who they negotiate with, the Crown has all the numbers, and the Crown decides the final p\u016Btea. Rangi said that in 1995, I think it was, and they waited 20 years for any justice to come back their way. They got put to the back of the line. That was his punishment and that was their punishment for daring to try and negotiate with the Crown.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000491\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESee, we still talk about that type of thing\u2014we all talk about it now, which is really good\u2014but have things really changed? We have Treaty negotiators here: Rawiri, Deb, and others who have been involved\u2014has the system really changed? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000492\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI remember this so well, and I spoke about it the first reading, because I interviewed Ranginui over this on radio when he was alive. He was quite tortured by it, because at one level he was proud of what he did for all the wh\u0101nau here, but he felt some guilt because the tribe got put to the back of the queue. So I say today, when we look at the settlement, let\u2019s try and learn something, I suppose. Let\u2019s try and learn something, because there\u2019s been some beautiful k\u014Drero today\u2014particularly the last karakia, k\u014Drero, from Rawiri Waititi, which was absolutely exceptional. But if we don\u2019t learn anything from the Ranginui Walkers, I don\u2019t know what we learn.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000493\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EThen I listened to Shane Jones today, too, and I thought it was beautiful. It was the same Shane Jones who keeps rubbishing the Waitangi Tribunal, and they want us to shut the tribunal down. I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s the same Shane Jones I\u2019m talking to sometimes, because I love Shane Jones sometimes and then I hate him some other times. You know, we love Shane Jones when he\u2019s in that mode, and then he goes into the media with his mate David Seymour and they talk about closing down the tribunal.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000494\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EThe tribunal should be alive for ever and a day. It does not shut down just because we complete Treaty settlements. If we shut if the tribunal down, are we saying we\u2019re going to trust the Crown for ever and a day? That\u2019s not what the tribunal was about. I need our Minister of Treaty Negotiations to not listen to Shane Jones and to listen to myself and Peeni Henare and Rawiri Waititi. Don\u2019t listen to Shane Jones\u2014he\u2019ll just waffle on with Winston\u2019s carry on, you know.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000495\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESo I say today that we do these settlements with beautiful k\u014Drero from all sides of the House, but we\u2019ve got this sort of cloud hovering over us. I see that on Thursday, Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori is running their protests, and good on them, I say. But we have a cloud over us and something doesn\u2019t feel right as we push through these settlements, and then we start losing M\u0101ori rights here, there, and everywhere. It doesn\u2019t seem right. Are these the same people whom I\u2019m listening to, going \u201CHere\u2019s some great k\u014Drero from ACT, great k\u014Drero from National.\u201D, and yet we have M\u0101ori rights under threat.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000496\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESo I say to our people who are here today that this is the completion of a journey, but it might be the start of another one. It might be the start of another one because we have M\u0101ori rights under threat and we have the tribunal being attacked every second or third day by two Ministers who should know better\u2014particularly Mr Jones. I say to our people that we must get ready. We must get ready and we must continue this, because just because things shut down, it doesn\u2019t mean that the tribunal shuts down. It doesn\u2019t mean M\u0101ori rights are shut down. It doesn\u2019t mean that the fight doesn\u2019t go on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000497\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESo mihi ana ki a koutou\u2014well done. I see Dudu K\u0101haut\u016B up the back there. We tautoko your whanaunga out the back here, behind us\u2014the kaihaut\u016B. He gave it to us at the Treaty settlement thing when we didn\u2019t turn up, and we remember that. He said, \u201CWhere\u2019s my nephew Peeni?\u201D\u2014ae, Peeni? Well, he\u2019s right here, Dudu, and we absolutely tautoko\u2014we just got caught up that day, ae, brother? He made sure he embarrassed us. The M\u0101ori Party said, \u201CYes, where\u2019s Labour?\u201D They were into it straight away. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000498\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EBut I want to mihi to you too, brother, up the back there, and to all of you who\u2019ve come here today\u2014you know, these are special times for this House. For all parties, these types of settlements bring the best out in everyone\u2014you know, you don\u2019t really see us at each other\u2019s throats. I\u2019m probably the only one who keeps booting the other side, you know\u2014I can\u2019t help it. But I also recognise that when you hear some of the k\u014Drero coming out from some of these MPs on the other side, you can see that they\u2019re conflicted\u2014you see? There are some real obligations in terms of our people and getting through the Treaty settlements process, and then that conflict because Winston\u2014you know how he is. Actually, Ranginui was quite a supporter of Winston\u2019s, wasn\u2019t he?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000499\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EBut, anyway, thank you everyone. It\u2019s been lovely to make a contribution. Special k\u014Drero today, as I said, from all sides of the House\u2014all the best to everyone. T\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, \u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tou katoa. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000500\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[This is my warm salutations to you. Thank you, all, and also, greetings to us all. Kia ora.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022 data-id=\u002205cbd30b78444ac1a4b1492511883a1c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000501\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002205cbd30b78444ac1a4b1492511883a1c\u0022\u003EDANA KIRKPATRICK (National\u2014East Coast):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. Willie, that\u2019s a hard act to follow. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000502\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003ENg\u0101 mihi ki a koutou e te iwi o Whakat\u014Dhea, m\u014D t\u014D koutou kaha me t\u014D koutou manawa nui i t\u0113nei kaupapa whakahirahira. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003E[Greetings to you, the people of Whakat\u014Dhea, for your strength and your resilience in this important initiative. Greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EIt is indeed an honour to be the last and final speaker in this House in this long, protracted, and difficult claims process for the people of the mighty Whakat\u014Dhea rohe. I welcome them to the House of Representatives to hear the third reading of their Treaty settlement bill. I\u2019m privileged to walk alongside these people as part of the incredible East Coast electorate, and I acknowledge the presence of some of their esteemed leaders today. Uncle Robert Edwards, happy 91st birthday to you for next month, in a couple of weeks\u2019 time. Te Kahautu Maxwell, Arihia Tuoro, Dickie Farrar\u2014welcome back to the House. Graeme Riesterer, acknowledged not only as a longstanding Whakat\u014Dhea board member but also for your journey through both the previous, abandoned settlement and this most recent 20-year journey alongside the aforementioned, as well as your contribution as the chair of T\u016B Ake and then the pre-settlement trust.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000505\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003ECan I acknowledge Danny Poihipi, a kaum\u0101tua of Ng\u0101ti Ngahere te hap\u016B and Bruce Pukepuke from Te Upokorehe for his contribution to the history of Whakat\u014Dhea, and all kaum\u0101tua who have been a part of both journeys as well\u2014and Tahu Taia, a longstanding trust board member, who has waited patiently for this point in time. As always, we recognise the t\u016Bpuna who have not seen this day come to fruition, for the work and commitment to their iwi over centuries. There\u2019s a small list of others who\u2019ve played a big part\u2014well, actually, there\u2019s a long list of others, for me today, who\u2019ve played an enormous part in this task, including: Kate Hudson, Vaughan Payne, Josie Mortensen, Julia Williams, Johnny Hata, Bella Williams, the komiti whiriwhiri team, and Danny Paruru, who assisted with the research and k\u014Drero. Of course, we recognise the work done by the Hon Chris Finlayson, the Hon Andrew Little, negotiators for the Crown Jake Pollock and Glenn Webber, and for Whakat\u014Dhea, Maui Hudson and Jason Pou. The collective determination, wisdom, and vision of all of these people has seen this iwi dig deep over the years and achieve well beyond expectation despite the atrocity of the past.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000506\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EI want to touch briefly on the settlement terms today and then focus on tomorrow and what lies ahead for this iwi in \u014Cp\u014Dtiki, the little town where there is so much good happening, and so very much of it at the hands of all of these people. This settlement will now transfer the asset liabilities and care of the people to the post-settlement governance entity Te T\u0101wharau o Te Whakat\u014Dhea, a new entity with representatives from all hap\u016B to administer the future for the Whakat\u014Dhea people. In that settlement lies the secret to the next 10 years for the future of employment, economic return, and commercialisation in \u014Cp\u014Dtiki, because, as I mentioned last week, the vision and strategic nous of these people in buying a wee dairy farm in 1946 was a catalyst for change. They didn\u2019t know at the time what it would do, but it crystallised the thinking of self-sufficiency, of commercial enterprise, and investment. And when Te Kahautu Maxwell\u2019s father told him that the iwi would have to farm the sea, it set them on a path that should be celebrated and now, with the settlement of their claims, catapulted into the next phase.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000507\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EWhakat\u014Dhea is a founding partner in the establishment of the Whakat\u014Dhea mussel factory, as part of the entity that is now the country\u2019s largest open-ocean mussel farm, with access to an expansive open-water space, global markets, and a purpose-built processing facility that can take product from around New Zealand. At inception, Whakat\u014Dhea owned just under 10 percent of shares in the aquaculture entity, and now, as part of this settlement, the Crown Regional Holdings Limited shares will transfer to the iwi, increasing its shareholding to just under 48 percent and, as a result, increasing the return on investment for you as the people of Whakat\u014Dhea. The story of the mussel factory and aquaculture is now part of the modern history of this iwi, and it was Te Kahautu Maxwell who told us, in his submission to the hearings, that his father told him the iwi had no land and so they must farm the sea. You learnt to do that. And so, through significant lobbying, capital raising, dogged commitment, that\u2019s what they did.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000508\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EThe iwi partnered where it needed to, sold shareholdings in the company, and built what was then a fledgling company in the heart of regional New Zealand. It is now the biggest full-time employer of people in the rohe, with nearly 200 people, and kaum\u0101tua Uncle Robert Edwards said at its inception in 2014, \u201CWe are all Whakat\u014Dhea. No matter who we are, we are all one.\u201D And the local people supported the entity, with more than 197 local families buying shares in that entity. In fact, the story goes that when the capital raise was started, a local grandmother and grandfather\u2014and you will know who this is\u2014bought $10,000 worth of shares for their wh\u0101nau with their life savings. The whole family was part of that decision, and the mokopuna paid off the shares with their pocket money. This is what brings a stringent sense of pride and belonging to the wh\u0101nau and community for their ownership and dedication to the factory and all that it stands for. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000509\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EThe connection of Whakat\u014Dhea to the ocean now traverses a new opportunity and a new era. The share transfer in the settlement arrangement, with them having sole access to 5,000 hectares of seabed for aquaculture, is a game-changer. This will see the next 10\u00A0years strategically focused around growth and further commercialisation to provide for their people in many different ways. By 2034, the next 10 years, it expects to be employing in the order of 320 people, be operating out of the new harbour entrance, have many more vessels in the ocean, and will fair be pumping along.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000510\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EWe should never forget that the raupatu, the horrific treatment of the Whakat\u014Dhea t\u016Bpuna, and the considerable damage done to the iwi, the hap\u016B, their reo, and m\u0101tauranga were real and atrocious. But, as they have told us so many times, they were determined not to live in the past but to focus on the future for the betterment of all of their people, no matter who. In the very wise words of kaum\u0101tua Uncle Robert, which were almost written for today, \u201CThe future opportunity,\u201D he said, \u201Cbelongs to us all. What we do today will define the future, and we must stand united with one voice, one mind, one people for the future before us. We live in dignity, with humility and courage, and we are proud of who we are.\u201D And you\u2019ll get no argument from us on that one. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000511\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EWhen we went to the submissions hearings in \u014Cp\u014Dtiki in February, it was evident the hospitality of these people was next level. They were generous with their time and their hearts, and I now have a hydrangea cutting growing at home from the wonderful women I now call my \u201Chydrangea aunties\u201D, and I shall cherish that; it will remind me always of my first Treaty settlement hearings, of the deeply humbling experience it has been, and how much, as a country, we have to learn of our history, sometimes literally in our own backyard. It has been an honour and a privilege to join the very last chapter of the settlement and to walk alongside these fine people in the last part of this journey that has taken since 1914.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000512\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EToday is about the people of Whakat\u014Dhea, the end of a long and protracted journey that will have left many, many weary but that now can bring a sense of clarity and a sustained focus on the opportunities to fulfil the next stage of their success. To the kaum\u0101tua who are here today, who have steered this waka to this landing point, this is a significant achievement that now marks a point in time. As you chart the next part of your centuries-long voyage, we wish you well. I know this iwi and its post-settlement entity will do everything and everyone at Whakat\u014Dhea proud and that this next step in the long and detailed history of the iwi has been a long time coming. Today, in this House, we see the leaders of yesterday honoured, those leaders of today here as part of this historic point in time, and the leaders of tomorrow included, as rangatahi, tamariki, and the mokopuna brought and in this House today. What an incredible way to mark the final step in this settlement process for you as a people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000513\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EThis part of the journey is nearly complete. There\u2019s just that long, long bus ride back home to \u014Cp\u014Dtiki to get through! But there, as Whakat\u014Dhea, as one, you will design your future aspirations, holding the inspiration from your t\u016Bpuna in your hearts and with you all the way. Stand tall; go well. You have brought dignity and grace in the face of extreme adversity. We wish you all the very best. Kia kaha. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000514\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000515\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228ba11b3f-65ea-4f86-92e4-fe78ea522647\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022 data-id=\u0022e85d4b3524cc4be1aaa914cee6cab812\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000516\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e85d4b3524cc4be1aaa914cee6cab812\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: Excuse me, can I call for order in the gallery, please. Order in the gallery\u2014order in the gallery. There is permission for a waiata. The gallery is not the place for speeches, thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000517\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003EWaiata\u2014\u201CE kore au e ngaro\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000518\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003EHaka\u2014\u201CK\u012B mai nei koe\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000519\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002209213bb9709d4d7da1d4f7c29e8efb3d\u0022\u003ERawiri Waititi\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022 data-id=\u0022d0bf105c0a08438d949fe25f90709311\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000520\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d0bf105c0a08438d949fe25f90709311\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry, we\u2019ll just wait for the gallery to clear. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000521\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229ae3c0d52db442a58581038eb7e8a732\u0022\u003ERawiri Waititi\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000522\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224a7a1e453211402dab9f208bab3579e7\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: We\u2019re just waiting on the gallery to clear. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000523\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bc87f6ca016e44a891a4fa1f9f2af7fc\u0022\u003ERawiri Waititi\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Madam Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000524\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022137626b127e64dc3aad1ff97a12db1db\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: I hear you; I\u2019m just waiting on the gallery to clear. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022 data-id=\u0022194be74807c949faa2c1cb1baa6e0786\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000525\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022194be74807c949faa2c1cb1baa6e0786\u0022\u003ERAWIRI WAITITI (Co-Leader\u2014Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori):\u003C/span\u003E Kei te pai the gallery; we\u2019re in the House now. I call a point of order, Madam Speaker. I find it extremely insulting that\u00A0one of our rangatira was cut off\u2014which is part of the protocol of the waiata today. I call for an apology from the Speaker today, to Te Whakat\u014Dhea, for rudely interrupting what was\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000526\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022666f0dce35e642448dcb9edd6f35e3c8\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: Excuse me, that\u2019s not a point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000527\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002294b5da20399c4711847f43a7ad24d1a0\u0022\u003ERAWIRI WAITITI\u003C/span\u003E: No, no\u2014that was a point of order. Absolutely, because I take umbrage to that. I am insulted by that, as is Whakat\u014Dhea. So I call for the Speaker to apologise to Whakat\u014Dhea before they leave this Chamber. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022 data-id=\u0022f2a170fbc33f4c3f8fe8c0727e3ede00\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000528\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e29c400e-467a-4398-818d-270ef48b80cf\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f2a170fbc33f4c3f8fe8c0727e3ede00\u0022\u003ESTEVE ABEL (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Speaking to the point of order, Madam Speaker. The purpose of these settlements is to acknowledge the wrongs of the Crown\u2014to acknowledge the constant trampling and insults committed against M\u0101ori and direct losses. In this process, which is a meaningful one for the iwi who have come and agreed to this settlement, there is an opportunity for the Crown to actually receive the dignity offered by the iwi in the making of the apology, and yet in the whole process we find we keep committing further harm and insult. That moment then was a completely unnecessary interruption and an affront to an otherwise very dignified and positive process, and I support the call for you to make an apology. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022 data-id=\u0022ddae20750b9a456b9d399aead21a295e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000529\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ddae20750b9a456b9d399aead21a295e\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: What I will do is consult with the Speaker on the way forward. It\u2019s common practice for permission to be granted for a waiata. It is not the position for members of the gallery to make further speeches. So thank you. I will take it up with the Speaker. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022 data-id=\u002217f816c1faa54aa7b9fc202b985b1d82\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000530\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002217f816c1faa54aa7b9fc202b985b1d82\u0022\u003EDEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader\u2014Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori):\u003C/span\u003E Speaking to the point of order. Madam Speaker, what we allowed was to give you warning. You didn\u2019t use any of your cultural support that you could have to have ensured that the mana of this kaupapa and the mana of our iwi was respected. There was a very wrong done here today, and they must be apologised to before they leave. Otherwise, the very process which every party supported today has been takahi. I please ask that you consider\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022 data-id=\u0022c05494fae3d848c2bd377eec875555f7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000531\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c05494fae3d848c2bd377eec875555f7\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: There is also tikanga in this House that I have to uphold. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000532\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002247699dde4cec4c8ab0562659d314636a\u0022\u003EHon Willie Jackson\u003C/span\u003E: Madam Speaker, speaking to the point of order. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000533\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221795bc98e1f642078da007a41a0b29c8\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: Is this a different point of order, Willie Jackson? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u0022f60f6642326340de85e87f3ee6f81cde\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000534\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f60f6642326340de85e87f3ee6f81cde\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E No, no\u2014speaking to this. I need to give a position to support the motion from Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori. This is not about trying to get one up on you; this is about tikanga, and our people have been slighted. They\u2019ve come from a long way away, and we ask you to respect the request from Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori that an apology be given to our people. We tautoko that from this side. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u0022e3d81383717a47ecac13b587a7ab0495\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000535\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e3d81383717a47ecac13b587a7ab0495\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Speaking briefly to the point of order, I think it would be worth the House just dialling down a touch. My read of the situation, having watched it quite carefully, was that no offence was intended by you, Madam Speaker, I\u2019m sure. My sense is that it was more just a misunderstanding around what was intended to happen and what members thought was likely to happen at the conclusion of the third reading speech. So I understand\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000536\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002282663d9e4e864354bc920380d44a41f1\u0022\u003ERawiri Waititi\u003C/span\u003E: No, Chris\u2014no, Chris. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000537\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224c7412d46ca7416ca19e883766d1c0be\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I\u2019m trying to be helpful here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000538\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bf56f0f4be754df180e7f935a381dcc1\u0022\u003ERawiri Waititi\u003C/span\u003E: We\u2019ve been misunderstood for the last 180 years. Come on\u2014all it is is an apology.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000539\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022192a4d48d2ab4b8bbd666c991969527d\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: I accept where you\u2019re coming from. I\u2019m just trying to say that in the spirit of the third reading of this very important settlement, I think it would be worth just everyone just taking a breath and dialling it down a touch, because I don\u2019t think the Speaker intended any offence. I think it would be a shame if we left the third reading and moved on to the later items of business in a spirit where there was acrimony across the Parliament, because I actually think there\u2019s unanimous agreement for reconciliation. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022 data-id=\u00227b8e7ef57ede4e369e7d43735c2aa1f0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00227b8e7ef57ede4e369e7d43735c2aa1f0\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you. I call on Government order of the day No. 2.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u0022bfbd485cc2ef47aca771d9822052f634\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000541\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bfbd485cc2ef47aca771d9822052f634\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Minister responsible for RMA Reform):\u003C/span\u003E Madam Speaker, I present a legislative statement for the Resource Management\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000542\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002205d3cf6670434ee0affa4f6132e267f5\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, kei te h\u0113, kei te h\u0113. [That\u2019s wrong, that\u2019s wrong.] You\u2019re wrong. You cannot sit there and bring our wh\u0101nau here to settle Te Tiriti\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000543\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d83c8a5-2f48-4991-9c45-b1a6060daedd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eeb6dc3f5f4b40deab6be2a4499fee17\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Maureen Pugh)\u003C/span\u003E: Order! \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225fb08759425b4729b445350eb6fd88d8\u0022\u003EDebbie Ngarewa-Packer\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014and then you behave like this. You\u2019re wrong. No wonder our people are coming here on Thursday\u2014you\u2019re wrong. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022582514bf947d4b699d640b0ba7427296\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000545\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022582514bf947d4b699d640b0ba7427296\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: All right. So arguments have been heard from both sides. My job is to protect the tikanga of this Parliament\u2014[Interruption]\u2014this Parliament. It is the Parliament of all people in New Zealand and there is no intention to offend anybody in the upholding of its own tikanga, and tikanga does not allow for speeches from the gallery. It never has. On that basis, we will now proceed, and for those who do not want to accept that, well, unfortunately, no change can be made. [Interruption] Call it as you want it. So we\u2019re proceeding with the previously called bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000546\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e33a8532b1074d08a2e860139da7f9d7\u0022\u003EResource Management (Freshwater and Other Matters) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000547\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b8ab565ab3064862b08148257324f086\u0022\u003EFirst Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u002267ad35ff6c4d49a1b46f42c63482d5a2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000548\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002267ad35ff6c4d49a1b46f42c63482d5a2\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Minister responsible for RMA Reform):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I\u2019ll just start again. I present a legislative statement for the Resource Management (Freshwater and Other Matters) Amendment Bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000549\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EI move, That the Resource Management (Freshwater and Other Matters) Amendment Bill be now read a first time. I nominate the Primary Production Committee to consider the bill. At the appropriate time, I intend to move that the bill be reported to the House by 30 September 2024.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000550\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EFor too long, New Zealand\u2019s farmers have been tangled up in red and green tape which\u00A0has prevented them from unlocking productivity on their own farm. We need to\u00A0acknowledge that New Zealand\u2019s farmers are some of, if not the, best in the world. Burying them under unnecessarily and unreasonable burdensome piles of regulations and\u00A0compliance requirements is harmful for our economy\u2014makes very little sense. This Government backs New Zealand farmers to make sensible, pragmatic choices which boost their productivity on their own farms and to protect the environment at the same\u00A0time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000551\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EGetting Wellington out of farming is an important part of our plan to get the economy back on track. We are committed, as a Government, to unlocking development and investment in infrastructure, housing, horticulture, aquaculture, forestry, and mining whilst ensuring the environment is protected. To enable this growth and to support our primary sector, we are delivering on our promise to improve resource management laws and reduce regulatory burdens.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000552\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EAs the House knows, we are taking a phased approach to resource management law reform. We are currently in phase two, and this started with the introduction of the fast-track, one-stop shop approvals bill which is currently before the Environment Committee and it\u2019s partly because the committee is extremely busy with that bill\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000553\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220af48a2ae0814b15bcc6b955438fc5cf\u0022\u003EGlen Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: You can withdraw it if you like.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000554\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022eca053bfd78a4cc58bdae614497e16f0\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: No, no chance of that, Mr Bennett. The electorate for which Mr Bennett used to be the representative will discover that many of the projects and many of the benefits of the fast-track bill apply to the great electorate of New Plymouth, as will other electorates around the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000555\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003ESo we\u2019ve started with fast track, and today this is the first of two resource management bills which make urgent time-critical changes to the system. This is resource management bill one: quick, targeted changes to give certainty to councils and resource consent applicants to enable economic growth in key sectors including farming, mining, and other primary industries. Resource management bill two, we are working away on and we will have more to say about that in due course\u2014that will be a more substantive bill and will also make targeted changes to the resource management system, but also national direction.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000556\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003ESo let me run through the details of the bill. There are six key changes. The first is in relation to the National Policy Statement on Freshwater Management (NPS FM). The bill proposes to exclude the hierarchy of obligations in the NPS FM from resource consenting. This will address concerns about the way it\u2019s being applied while a review and replacement of the freshwater management policy statement is undertaken. Regional councils will be obligated still to give effect to this\u2014the NPS FM, including the hierarchy\u2014in their policy statements and plans. This is about individual resource consents having the hierarchy of obligations applied to those individual resource consent applications. That was never the intention of the NPS FM. There is some evidence that that is what is happening, and so we are clarifying that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000557\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EThe second is in relation to stock exclusion regulations. It repeals the problematic and contentious low-slope map and associated requirements from stock exclusion regulations, reducing costs for farmers. Regional councils and farmers will decide where stock needs to be excluded based on risk and a catchment-focused approach, and this will be a good benefit for our farming community.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000558\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EThe third thing it does is in relation to intensive winter grazing. It repeals the permitted and restricted discretionary activity regulations and associated conditions for intensive winter grazing from the National Environmental Standards for Freshwater. Regional councils tell us there\u2019s been a significant improvement in winter grazing practices around the country. Farmers are proactively making better decisions about where they plant crops and how they manage winter grazing. Sector groups have confirmed their continued and collective commitment to work alongside farmers and regional councils to ensure good outcomes. Winter grazing will instead be managed through freshwater farm plans, regional council plans, and farmers following good management practices as outlined in the winter grazing module.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000559\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EThe fourth thing it does is in relation to consenting pathways for coalmining. The bill aligns the provisions for coalmining with other mineral extraction activities under the NPS IB\u2014the National Policy Statement on Indigenous Biodiversity\u2014the National Policy Statement on Freshwater Management, and the National Environmental Standards for Freshwater. So the bill extends the consenting pathway for coalmines to new coalmines and removes the sunset clause on consent pathways for thermal coal. This means that coalmines will have to meet the same tests and requirements to manage their environmental effects as similar activities. As the Hon Shane Jones would no doubt point out if he was here, coal is required for food production, energy security, and industrial production such as steel manufacturing. If it\u2019s not mined domestically, all we do is import coal and steel with potential flow-on costs\u2014increasing greenhouse gas emissions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000560\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EFifthly, the bill suspends for three years the requirements under the National Policy Statement for Indigenous Biodiversity for councils to identify new significant natural areas\u2014SNAs\u2014and include them in district plans. It also extends some implementation time frames until 31 December 2030. This is so we can do a full review of the operation of SNAs and changes made before the existing regulations are locked in through council decisions. Criteria in the NPS IB sought to standardise the approach for identifying our most important biodiversity areas, but there are real concerns amongst many communities that the criteria is capturing areas with less significant natural biodiversity, placing undue restrictions on how land is used.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000561\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EWe recognise that landowners are already investing time and resources in protecting native biodiversity, and we take an approach, on this side of the House, which works collaboratively and in conjunction with landowners and incentivisation of this work rather than restricting what they can do with their land. Now, that\u2019s what a property rights - based approach does. I want to acknowledge Associate Minister Hoggard for the important work he is doing in this area, as in so many other areas across the coalition between the ACT Party, the National Party, and the New Zealand First Party. There\u2019s a real collective drive and commitment to sorting out our resource management laws.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000562\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ff8fda4fe1994edf8f8fb3164d02cf12\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Attack the environment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000563\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229b465a833e654bf498f02f6effecf0d1\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Finally\u2014I\u2019m just going to choose to ignore that comment. Finally, the bill speeds up the process for\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000564\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220068ce8e6f0f4cd48a806f507def419d\u0022\u003EHon Rachel Brooking\u003C/span\u003E: Just like all the advice you\u2019re given. Maybe you want to look at the supplementary analysis report.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000565\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c26ac726be3e41b599e5e004e02771b1\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it\u2019s easy to ignore when you didn\u2019t actually hear it, but no doubt you\u2019ll have your say.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000566\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EFinally, the bill amends the process for developing or amending national direction. This is a really important change. The process costs too much and takes too long around national direction. It\u2019s typically a two-year process to amend items of national direction, as other members in the House will know. We now have a suite of national policy statements sitting under the Resource Management Act across lots of sectors of the economy, and it\u2019s important that there\u2019s an expeditious process for making changes to that national direction. So there are targeted and technical changes to speed up the statutory time frame and evaluation reporting requirements. It streamlines and simplifies the process for amending a national environmental standard, a national planning standard, a national policy statement, or indeed the New Zealand Coastal Policy Statement.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000567\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EWe intend to progress a suite of national direction changes next year to unlock development and investment in infrastructure, housing capacity, agriculture, horticulture, aquaculture, forestry, and mining while achieving good environmental outcomes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000568\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c99d052d573144809064bd6d6c8e0174\u0022\u003EHon Rachel Brooking\u003C/span\u003E: Destroy the environment. Keep going. Fast track\u2019s not enough.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000569\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002225653f82ab5d424eb7bb583e637993a7\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: I hear the member over the other side going on simplistically and tritely about destroying the environment. This is not about that; this is about simplifying and reducing the red tape that holds our economy back, particularly our primary sector, from growing. I reject the proposition that you can have the economy or you can have the\u00A0environment. Actually, modern economies that grow look after the environment and modern economies that are growing quickly\u2014that provide jobs and growth for their people\u2014provide the prosperity and the revenue to do all sorts of things in the environment that we would want to do. But much of what the environment requires is investment, is\u00A0resource.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000570\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003EUltimately, when the size of the economic pie is growing, investment can go into cleaning up lakes and waters, for example, in remedying waste sites that have previously been the province of harmful waste. But all of that takes resource. This is why economies that are poor tend to be the worst environmental vandals. Economies that are wealthy and prosperous tend to look after the environment, and there\u2019s a direct correlation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000571\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003ESo members opposite want to have a trite debate about the economy versus the environment. We have a more sophisticated and nuanced approach on this side of the House. We can grow the economy, reduce our emissions, look after the environment\u2014all at the same time. That\u2019s what this bill does. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u00222b530b9d1a04491c844d3fe7a6d9462c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000572\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222b530b9d1a04491c844d3fe7a6d9462c\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Greg O\u2019Connor)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that the motion be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022 data-id=\u0022abee39f82c624b6aa8508b82c1491157\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000573\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022abee39f82c624b6aa8508b82c1491157\u0022\u003EHon RACHEL BROOKING (Labour\u2014Dunedin):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I can assure the Minister responsible for RMA Reform that I\u2019m not interested in having trite discussions, but what I have heard a lot of here has been trite. Now, first of all, this bill is being sent to totally the wrong select committee. It is going to primary production, and I have nominated the Environment Committee. I think that is where this bill should go to, because, of course, it is about amending the Resource Management Act (RMA), and what committee has always considered things to do with the Resource Management Act? Oh, that would be, of course, the Environment Committee that should be considering this, because the regulations that are being amended by this bill are to do with protecting the environment and improving the environment by stopping pollution. It\u2019s all very well to say that you need investment to clean up the environment once it\u2019s polluted, but, of course, the best and most efficient thing to always do is to stop that pollution from occurring in the first place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000574\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EWhat is the pollution we\u2019re talking about? Well, a lot of it is sediment run-off into our rivers. Do our trading partners care about clean rivers? Yes, they do. Do our citizens care about clean rivers? Yes, they do. Do we want swimmable rivers? Yes, we do. This is the point of a lot of the regulations\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000575\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002220ef91193404430092f491e4781d0a89\u0022\u003EGrant McCallum\u003C/span\u003E: Farmers care too, by the way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000576\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002257a97f07c82c4936b69cf0490276ac7c\u0022\u003EHon RACHEL BROOKING\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014that are up for amendment today. I\u2019m hearing farmers want clean rivers too\u2014excellent news. I\u2019m very pleased to hear that, and they should be talking to the Environment Committee about that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000577\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003ENow, of course, the other irony is that most of the changes\u2014the Minister just said that there are six main changes. Of those six, five of them are amendments to regulations. There is no need for primary legislation to make these changes. The sixth one, of course, is about how those regulations are made in the first place, and a lot of that is taken from the now-repealed Natural and Built Environment Act. The Minister often says that his legislation can be done swiftly because it is modelled on that of Labour\u2019s. In terms of fast-track, that is totally wrong, because, of course, the fast-track bill that we have before us at the Environment Committee has nothing about the environment in its purpose. It is all about the facilitation of development, and that overrides all of our environmental regulations that are there to protect our environment from pollution. However, in this case, the only amendment to the RMA that is actually needed by primary legislation is similar to what was in that Natural and Built Environment Act\u2014not exactly the same\u2014and it should be considered by the specialist committee, the Environment Committee, but no, it appears to be going to the Primary Production Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000578\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EI also note that the Minister talking to us is the Minister of resource management reform. Making changes to regulations is not the reform of the resource management system. I note that the Minister for the Environment was not even involved in the press release about these changes, which is mind blowing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000579\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003ENow, we know that this Government has some real problem with Te Mana o te Wai. One of the changes to the regulations here is that that Mana o te Wai hierarchy doesn\u2019t apply to consents. We see in the documents supplied with the bill that the officials have said we don\u2019t even know if this is a problem. We don\u2019t even know if consents are being stopped, because the Te Mana o te Wai hierarchy is being considered in those consents. There have been a couple of cases where it was mentioned, but likely those consents would\u2019ve been not granted\u2014refused\u2014based on environmental outcomes. So there\u2019s very little analysis about that point, but then we see in the bill, in the explanatory note, that there are going to be many further changes to this national policy statement on fresh water around Te Mana o te Wai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000580\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EI want to pause here and remind members about this hierarchy. It is, first, the quality of the water body that comes first. Second comes the ability for humans to use that water\u2014so things like drinking water; that\u2019s important. Third is the consumptive use\u2014that\u2019s the ability to make money from the water. How can there be any discussion of rebalancing that hierarchy unless you intend for profit to come over the environment and to come over people? It is outrageous that there\u2019d be any talk of going further with that, but that is what this Government is happy to do, and it just terrifies me, the state that our environment will be in when we come back to Government.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022 data-id=\u002295df4c395e864e9c9c6af3f5bb6de15f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000581\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002295df4c395e864e9c9c6af3f5bb6de15f\u0022\u003ELAN PHAM (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. When I joined this Parliament, I was really heartened to learn of and also experience the immense privilege that we have here to actually access information in this place. I know especially for my colleagues across the House that is even more accessible when the Public Service can actually go to work and do the consultation, get the data, get the evidence that Ministers need to actually make truly informed decisions. I want to raise that today in the context of this Resource Management (Freshwater and Other Matters) Amendment Bill, because this bill makes a mockery not only of this Government\u2019s claim that they care about data and evidence but it also makes a mockery of their duty of care that Kiwis expect of their Government when it comes to responsible governance for te taiao, or our environment, and within that, Kiwis\u2019 rights to actually have their say.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000582\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022\u003ESo I want to begin there on the consultation aspect, because official advice across these supplementary analysis reports make it clear that the Government simply has not had the time or the care about what Kiwis would have to say on these bills. Let\u2019s take, for example, the coalmining aspect. There was official advice that said there was no time for consultation, none with iwi M\u0101ori, no assessment of the Treaty impacts, including on the Crown\u2019s Treaty settlements or commitments. For the amendments that have to do with fresh water, consultation was \u201Climited\u201D, and the limited feedback that they did receive from iwi M\u0101ori was \u201Cone of disappointment and frustration\u201D and concern about the potentially irreversible negative impacts on freshwater quality. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000583\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022\u003ESo that\u2019s a bit of a taste of what the Government might have heard if they did take the time to go out for public consultation before getting to this stage. But let\u2019s go back to the data and evidence part of what this Government cares about and ask what the experts actually say. Because when these changes were first announced, 50 of Aotearoa\u2019s top freshwater experts and leaders were so concerned about it that they actually organised and wrote a letter to the Prime Minister and Ministers, clearly and concisely stating their concerns. I want to quote them here: \u201CNew Zealand\u2019s rivers, lakes, and aquafers are in a dire state. \u2026 The country\u2019s freshwater policy, including Te Mana o te Wai, is the result of decades of public concern and policy development. To weaken this now, would be to take the country and our communities backwards.\u201D That\u2019s just the freshwater aspect of this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000584\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022\u003EThe rest of it contains a litany of shortsighted environmental destruction. I wanted to take the example of the coalmining aspects, because I couldn\u2019t quite believe my eyes when I read the supplementary analysis report for this bill on \u201Camending the consenting pathway for coalmining in or around wetlands and significant natural areas\u201D. This, I might add, is in addition to the three-year suspension for actually identifying these significant natural areas for councils. The advice from officials made it clear that it is not possible to quantify how many new coalmines or extensions for existing coalmines would be affected by the proposed changes\u2014that there is a risk of irreparable damage to, and loss of, wetlands if a consent pathway is to be provided.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002246269786-ecb4-40e2-972a-e287c495bdec\u0022\u003EI don\u2019t know where to start with this aspect of the bill, other than to say the science is crystal clear that if we want to prevent a future filled with climate catastrophe and extreme weather, then fossil fuels need to stay in the ground. Protecting nature or keeping fossil fuels in the ground is not some woke idea or whatever the latest culture war buzzword is; it\u2019s about the scientific fundamentals of human survival on this planet that we call home. When this Government won\u2019t listen to the science, the evidence, to iwi M\u0101ori, or to the public, we have a serious threat to our future in our hands, and the only solution is to get organised, get loud, and make our voices heard. On Saturday, 8 June, we\u2019ll be heard. Thank you, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u002259daef8808004bb183267062471ccb62\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000586\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002259daef8808004bb183267062471ccb62\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Greg O\u2019Connor)\u003C/span\u003E: The Hon Andrew Hoggard\u2014you\u2019re taking this full five-minute call?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00226cac9fcd-1934-4007-b10a-4b9d301a0af1\u0022 data-id=\u00223b81f4f0afc2498692647adcd3cc2cbd\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000587\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226cac9fcd-1934-4007-b10a-4b9d301a0af1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223b81f4f0afc2498692647adcd3cc2cbd\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW HOGGARD (Associate Minister of Agriculture):\u003C/span\u003E Yes, five-minute call. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I\u2019d like to speak to three components of this bill that I\u2019ve had involvement with. Those are the provisions around significant natural areas, the rules around stock exclusions, and the winter grazing component.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000588\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226cac9fcd-1934-4007-b10a-4b9d301a0af1\u0022\u003ENow, before I do, we\u2019ve heard a bit about how this is going to be the end of nature in New Zealand from the other side, despite these people previously protesting and getting all aggrieved about being accused of being at war with farming, yet these words clearly demonstrate they\u2019re still at war with farming. Up and down the country, farmers are taking care of biodiversity on their farms, making changes to winter grazing practices, all before any regulations came about. Since 2003, 25,000 kilometres of riparian margins have been fenced off. That\u2019s just by the dairy sector alone that we\u2019ve measured; we haven\u2019t measured all the work that\u2019s been done on the sheep and beef farms up and down the country. I\u2019m seeing more and more of that on a regular basis. If you added that all in, I am sure you would probably double that number.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000589\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226cac9fcd-1934-4007-b10a-4b9d301a0af1\u0022\u003ETurning to the proposed changes around the mapping of significant natural areas, this comes from the ACT-National coalition agreement. \u201CThis suspends the requirement to identify new SNAs by councils while we review how SNAs are managed in the future.\u201D There have been numerous concerns from many landowners around the implication of having significant natural areas (SNA) on their land. For many, it\u2019s the principle of their property rights being trampled on and where this might go in the future with zero compensation or recognition of those property rights. For many, there is the question around, \u201CIs this really significant?\u201D. When you\u2019re a landowner on the West Coast of the South Island where around 86 percent of the land is included in the Department of Conservation estate, you are quite justifiably scratching your head going, \u201CWhy the hell is my half a hectare so vital that all these restrictions need to be placed on me?\u201D Haven\u2019t we already protected quite a significant amount of the land in this region already?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000590\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226cac9fcd-1934-4007-b10a-4b9d301a0af1\u0022\u003EThen there is that word, \u201Csignificant\u201D. We see numerous examples of what could generously be called \u201Cscrub\u201D being viewed as significant. Going forward, we need better definitions of what \u201Csignificant\u201D is and we also need a much better carrot-type approach to\u00A0improving biodiversity on private land as opposed to the Opposition\u2019s favoured \u201Cgo to stick\u201D method.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226cac9fcd-1934-4007-b10a-4b9d301a0af1\u0022\u003EThe previous stock exclusions, low-slope map, and its various evolutions have proven once again that one-size-fits-all from Wellington isn\u2019t the solution. There would have been extensive properties forced into financially crippling fencing programmes. Think of all the farms you see on Country Calendar. These are the sort of farms that would be put out of business by having to do all this. These are not farms that are having an impact on water quality. Instead, many of these farmers looking at these regulations, their only option was to go into pines, which is not what we\u2019re wanting. Many regions also had longstanding stock exclusion rules that made sense for these regions. As I mentioned, the dairy sector had already been long-time engaged in this job.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000592\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226cac9fcd-1934-4007-b10a-4b9d301a0af1\u0022\u003EI mentioned the changes around the winter grazing regulations. Once again, it was a one-size-fits-all approach from Wellington. Farmers have made significant gains in the last four to five years in how they manage this practice and we have seen great uptake of the winter grazing module. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000593\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226cac9fcd-1934-4007-b10a-4b9d301a0af1\u0022\u003EAll the current and soon-to-be previous regime did was add cost by forcing a regulatory burden on councils and farmers. The biggest frustration many had with this system was the fact that there was supposed to be an alternative pathway for Farm Plans. However, what we got instead was not fit for purpose. It was costly, complex, and also overlooked in a practical sense all the existing Farm Plans that were out there. Having a farmer-focused Farm Plan system is where I truly believe we will turn the dial forward on improving water quality outcomes out there in regional New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000594\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00226cac9fcd-1934-4007-b10a-4b9d301a0af1\u0022\u003EThis Government is committed to ensuring we have a fit for purpose system that doesn\u2019t create duplication of paperwork and that provides farmers with good knowledge and plans on how they can make a difference in their catchments. That is the way forward, not an endless stream of green tape from Wellington. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022 data-id=\u0022c6f36b3e62e34003a5466f392a5e7a72\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000595\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c6f36b3e62e34003a5466f392a5e7a72\u0022\u003EHon MARK PATTERSON (Minister for Rural Communities):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. \u201CThe end of [the] war on farming\u201D is how Federated Farmers have responded to this piece of legislation getting introduced to the House. This is a critical piece of legislation for our agricultural sector, and I congratulate Minister Bishop on bringing it forward and actually expediting it through as the first tranche of Resource Management Act reform in what is a much bigger body of work to try to undo the mess that we have inherited in this space.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000596\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003ERachel Boyack, I can say to you, the Primary Production Committee is absolutely the right committee to be seeing this legislation go through there. It is the fact that the Environment Committee stuffed it up so badly the first time around because there weren\u2019t enough farmers or people that understood the implications of the things they were signing off that we\u2019re in this place now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000597\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003ESo, farmers: we are freeing them from the tyranny of one-size-fits-all regulation being imposed on them by Wellington, and we are fulfilling those promises of getting Wellington out of farmers. Farmers do care about the environment, and to say anything else\u2014I absolutely dispel that sentiment for anyone that may be raising it in this debate. Grant McCallum, the Northland MP, and I spoke the other day at the Aotearoa New Zealand catchment collective. There are 290 catchment groups now in this country. They have proliferated throughout from Southland to Northland. This is actually people on the ground doing things\u2014fencing, riparian planting, restoring wetlands, and dealing with it at a catchment-level solution. The Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, Simon Upton, has just come out with a report on this, and he has said that the catchment-level solution is the only way forward here, that regulations that work within farm boundaries, catchments, and ecological systems do not.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000598\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EThere has been a quantum shift\u2014a quantum shift\u2014on management practices on farm, around things like intensive winter grazing. We have recognised that some of the practices of the past have fallen short, and that has been acknowledged by regional councils, which has given us the trust to take the measures that we have. And there is real oversight of this. We have fly-overs in Otago and in many parts of the country. You\u2019re actually monitored from the air to make sure that you are complying with good management practices, and you\u2019re exposed if anyone\u2019s trying to cut corners; they\u2019re picked up. They\u2019re intensively managed by the regional council and often Dairy New Zealand, Beef \u002B Lamb New Zealand, and Federated Farmers, and they\u2019re working with those farmers\u2014actually doing stuff\u2014but we\u2019re leaving the farmers that are following good practice alone. We\u2019re letting them get on with the job. We\u2019re not imposing heavy compliance and cost on them to do what they do when they\u2019re doing it well. It will be a risk-based approach, and it will be locally driven with local solutions. We will be getting to the same place in environmental outcomes. We will be just doing it in a different and more practical way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000599\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EThe Te Mana o te Wai provisions that also have been referenced, they are incredibly problematic. That was an incredibly powerful piece of planning legislation. It was a vague, catch-all term that could have meant anything. It could have shut down any farming operation for any reason. It had no place in a resource management setting where real lives, real livelihoods, real communities were on the line.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000600\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022bf71a65e-c9f0-4856-902f-1a15c4274e94\u0022\u003EThe significant natural areas\u2014and I commend Minister Hoggard on his work there. That wasn\u2019t an attack on property rights. We are a property-rights Government across this side of the House. There are hundreds of thousands of hectares of native vegetation, particularly on our sheep and beef land, much of it in QEII Trust, much of it preserved for perpetuity. Farmers care about this stuff. Genuinely significant natural areas may need to be captured. That is a piece of work that was going on. The low-slope maps, the stock exclusion, that was incredibly onerous on high-country farmers\u2014little or no environmental outcomes. We trust our farmers. We\u2019ll back them. Thank you, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022 data-id=\u0022ef0d878b783b46228033ea1d900e68eb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000601\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ef0d878b783b46228033ea1d900e68eb\u0022\u003EHon SCOTT SIMPSON (National\u2014Coromandel):\u003C/span\u003E Well, thank you very much, Mr Speaker. As the newly hatched, bright-eyed, shiny chair of the Environment Committee, I\u2019m very happy to support this piece of legislation going to the Primary Production Committee, because I think that is a very good place for this piece of legislation to go.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000602\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ENow, we\u2019ve heard a little bit\u2014not much but a little bit\u2014of concern from the Opposition parties about why this bill, in their view, might be a bad thing. But I want to put to members of this Chamber, and also anyone that may be listening at home on their crystal sets or watching on television, they will be able to take reassurance from the fact that this is a good piece of legislation that brings a degree of sanity and purpose back to resource management in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000603\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ESo, for the last six years, we had a regime that thought Wellington knew best. They thought that they knew best. They thought that shiny, painted people sitting in front of computer screens looking at Google Maps of landscapes and slopes and things like that, they thought that those people had a better understanding of land, of catchment areas, of resource, of land slopes and all those sorts of things than the farmers and people who worked that land. Well, we take an entirely different view. It\u2019s always been our view in the National Party, and I know that it is also the view of our hard-working and very collegial coalition partners, that a catchment-by-catchment approach is the best.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000604\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ENow, I heard the Hon Mark Patterson making a comment in his presentation just a few minutes ago about the very good report released just last week by the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment\u2014none other than the Rt Hon Simon Upton, a former member of this House who knows a bit about this kind of stuff. He has said, without any hesitation in his very good report, that actually a catchment-by-catchment approach is entirely the right approach.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000605\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003ENow, on this side of the House, we don\u2019t take the view that matters relating to the environment and use of land are a binary equation, that it\u2019s either one or the other. We think that actually there is a potential for us as a smart nation with clever people who have a regard and concern for our natural environment, to also be able to protect, maintain, and enhance that natural environment while at the same time encouraging a development, encouraging proper and appropriate land use that encourages the wealth and prosperity of our entire nation to give us the economic performance and strength that we need to provide for that maintenance, protection, and enhancement of our natural environment. Because without a thriving, growing economy, none of that other good stuff that we need for our environment can occur.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000606\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s often said in this House, and something that I think the Green Party members often forget, that it\u2019s very hard to be green when you\u2019re in the red\u2014very hard to be green when you\u2019re in the red. I know that on that side of the House, on the Opposition, they have only three policy objectives. There are only three things that they ever consider when it comes to policy, and that is either to tax it, make it compulsory, or to tax it again\u2014no; ha, ha! So, actually, the third one is to ban it. So it\u2019s tax it, make it compulsory, or ban it. Those are the only three policy options when it comes to anything in relation to the environment. We take a far more broad view of that. In fact, this piece of legislation is part of a coalition agreement we\u2019ve entered into with the ACT Party. So we\u2019re fulfilling that, but it\u2019s also part of a broader three-phase plan that is to entirely reform our resource management landscape and our way of administering by statute and regulation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000607\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThe first step, of course, was to repeal the hopelessly inadequate Labour legislation; the natural built and environment, and spatial planning pieces of legislation that would have only made things worse\u2014that would have only made things worse.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000608\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThe second step is of course to introduce the fast-track consenting system so that we can get things done in New Zealand, and that is currently before my select committee and we\u2019re working our way through that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000609\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002298dbeffa-e059-49d5-8bbf-579cbaead9a3\u0022\u003EThen, of course, the third part will be ultimately to amend or develop an entirely new resource management statute that will actually achieve the objectives that we see on this side of the House that, as I said, are not a binary option\u2014it\u2019s not just the environment or development; it is actually both. We think that as a smart, nimble nation and a smart, nimble Government, we can achieve both those objectives.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022 data-id=\u00222eaed2318efd4417a138bd30e54ac52c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000610\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222eaed2318efd4417a138bd30e54ac52c\u0022\u003EHon JO LUXTON (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I just find it quite fascinating that the member who just took their seat, the Hon Scott Simpson, praised this fantastic report by the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment and yet that side of the House took absolutely no notice of his views on the fast-track Resource Management Act (RMA) bill. I find that quite fascinating.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000611\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003EWhat I also find quite fascinating is that there are a couple of things that members opposite have brought up that I actually kind of agree with. I agree that our New Zealand farmers are some of the most environmental farmers around the world. I also agree that catchment groups are doing some fantastic work. The Minister who introduced the bill mentioned that winter grazing practices have improved.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000612\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003EMinister Hoggard also talked about the fact that there are farmers who have been making improvements on their properties and around waterways for many years\u2014that is also true, and I absolutely 100 percent agree with that. However, whether it be in agriculture, whether it be in the corporate world, there are always going to be those laggards who let everybody else down who is doing the right thing. The purpose behind the regulations that were introduced by the previous Government was to help to pull those laggards into line because they were dragging the rest of the sector down.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000613\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003ENew Zealand is very, very proud of our clean, green image; our beautiful, pristine waterways\u2014we trade off the back of that. That is why we are able to sell our product to the world: because of our clean, green image. I do genuinely worry that this piece of legislation is somewhat short-sighted. I seriously hope that it doesn\u2019t come back to bite this Government in the backside.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000614\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003EThe other thing that I am concerned about with this piece of legislation is the consultation process\u2014the member from the Green Party touched on this\u2014and the fact that iwi and tangata whenua don\u2019t feel that they have been consulted with in a way that is meaningful for them. One of the things that I did notice in the regulatory impact statement is that they felt that the engagement process has been inadequate for reasons including insufficient information, lack of time, and that decisions appeared to have already been taken, which was in reference to a letter from the Minister Responsible for RMA Reform to support this view. Because of this limited engagement and the uncertain impact on the proposal on fresh water, it\u2019s difficult to assess, as noted in the regulatory impact statement, whether or not the Treaty principles of partnership and active protection have been met. So, once again, iwi and tangata whenua are not being consulted with properly on something that has huge impact for them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000615\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002226b88bf1-f634-40e7-8019-e75cc483ace7\u0022\u003ESo, whilst I have agreed with some of the comments that have been made opposite with regard to the great work that our farmers are doing, I am concerned about the lack of consultation. It\u2019s something that we are seeing time and time again from this Government, consultation legislation that is being rushed. I do worry that there will be serious unintended consequences as a result of rushed legislation. Thank you, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022 data-id=\u002239f99b2287f445829f67f4f71b81c018\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000616\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002239f99b2287f445829f67f4f71b81c018\u0022\u003EMIKE BUTTERICK (National\u2014Wairarapa):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. On Saturday, 14\u00A0October 2023, the war on farmers ended. To the 360,000 people from across the country who are involved in the primary sector and who form the backbone of our economy, including those from the mighty Wairarapa, Central Hawke\u2019s Bay, and the Tararua: thank you. Thank you to those who grow our grains, our fruits, and our vegetables; to those who milk the cows; to those who grow our meat. Thank you to all those that support our farmers and growers: the mechanics, the vets, the accountants, the retailers, manufacturers, labourers. Thank you to everyone else involved. Thank you to the farmers\u2014all of you\u2014for your commitment to being amongst the most carbon-efficient farmers in the world. Thank you for taking our food and fibre to the world. Thank you for your export dollars, which help to pay for the roads, the schools, and the hospitals we need. Thank you for keeping the farm gate open whilst members of the other side of the House vilified your industry. The reality is we need you now more\u00A0than ever, given the near $100 billion debt that we\u2019ve been left with by those same members over\u00A0there. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000617\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003EWe have the opportunity to make improvements to the Resource Management Act and slash the red and green tape, as my esteemed colleague so aptly put previously. This will allow those that, like I said, are the backbone of the country to do what they do best, and that\u2019s just get on with it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000618\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003EChanges to the National Policy Statement on Freshwater Management will allow us to find better ways to achieve the outcomes we continually look for. Those regulations have added cost, stress, and little in positive change or practice that wasn\u2019t already happening on farms across the country. This is the same for the winter grazing regulations, which have never been fit for purpose and again added cost and stress without significant or positive results being seen over and above what was already happening before those regulations were introduced.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000619\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003EWe need to recognise that those who work, live, and play on the land want to see an improvement in the environment\u2014and they already invest in this. There\u2019s many examples, as the Minister said. The 25,000 kilometres of waterways already fenced off\u2014almost 100 percent of all waterways on dairy farms are fenced off. The 2.8 million hectares of woody vegetation that\u2019s already on our farm lands. The amazing work the catchments continue to do\u2014close to 300 of them\u2014and the Queen Elizabeth II (QEII) National Trust covenants are a perfect example. Let\u2019s be clear: we didn\u2019t need regulation or law for our farmers to want to do this. The 5,000th QEII covenant was registered in the Wairarapa very recently.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000620\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003EStifling businesses that utilise the land to produce both local and export products is not in the best interests of all of the people in this country. The assumption that the environment will get worse typifies the previous administration\u2019s narrative that the farming sector are villains. On this side of the House, we don\u2019t hold that view. We trust our farmers. We back our farmers. We can grow our economy. We can get Wellington out of farming. We need to let our farmers farm and, at the same time, continue to look after our environment, as they have always done. The war on farming is over. We\u2019ll get the sector back on track. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022 data-id=\u00224554a59ecf4647c291fba042e6ab7cb5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000621\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224554a59ecf4647c291fba042e6ab7cb5\u0022\u003EGLEN BENNETT (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Today, yet again we have legislation that is introduced to this House which shows the Government\u2019s disregard for our environment and for fresh water. I take offence when I hear people in this Chamber talking about the war on farmers, something that we never did. I heard a previous member talk about \u201CWell, go and see.\u201D What do I know? Well, I know a lot, because I live in Taranaki. I know the challenges. I leaned in and listened. I leaned in and I spent time sitting around kitchen tables in farms all around the electorate of New Plymouth in Taranaki, trying to understand the complexities and how this works, to get it right.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000622\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EBut we look at this piece of legislation, and I do see it as a war and an attack on nature, an attack on our fresh water. An example is Te Mana o te Wai. Te Mana o te Wai\u2014the sacredness of water\u2014which, of course, is the thing that gives life to us. We need to make sure that we get our fresh water right. We need to make sure that we get our soils right within the water systems, ensure around the animal welfare that we need to provide in terms of the water.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000623\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EWe worked hard. I hear lots of rhetoric around everything sort of coming out of Wellington\u2014the bureaucrats sitting here with their pens, pushing them. Well, I remind the other side and the Government that it was the Labour Government that put funding into the catchment communities in the last term, who ensured that they were strong and thriving. I see those in Taranaki and I see them working well. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000624\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EAs we hear the attacks that we seem to have on farmers, I wonder about our wetlands. If there\u2019s any attack that is being used within this legislation, it is on our wetlands. Do you know that 90 percent\u201490 percent\u2014of our wetlands have been lost since we arrived. Ninety percent. So when I see the attempt to put coalmines on wetlands to ensure the degradation, the destruction of more of our wetlands, of the few that we have left, I think this is dangerous.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000625\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EBut I see that side of the House seems to fraternise with the coal industry, and that\u2019s their thing. I guess that\u2019s something that we\u2019re going to have to watch and follow as the weeks and months progress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000626\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EThis is a backward step yet again. As the Hon Chris Bishop said at the start, these are just some quick, targeted changes, just repealing a few things and there\u2019s more to come. We\u2019re in challenging times. Our environment needs us. Our water needs us. We need to fight this and we need to fight hard. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00222837c142-c937-468e-9984-bc646d066687\u0022 data-id=\u0022d0863315c0ed4724b9080c8ed6c9cbe1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000627\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222837c142-c937-468e-9984-bc646d066687\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d0863315c0ed4724b9080c8ed6c9cbe1\u0022\u003EDr HAMISH CAMPBELL (National\u2014Ilam):\u003C/span\u003E It\u2019s my pleasure to rise and speak on the Resource Management (Freshwater and Other Matters) Amendment Bill in the first reading. I\u2019m proud to stand and represent the farmers of Ilam\u2014all 300 of them! But in all seriousness, this is a serious topic. Freshwater reforms actually go right to the heart of our resource management and what we are going to do with it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000628\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222837c142-c937-468e-9984-bc646d066687\u0022\u003EWe are navigating this challenging situation. When we do face these challenges, we must not forget the crucial role our primary producers play in this country and in our society. We require them three times a day\u2014breakfast, lunch, and dinner\u2014to be able to put food on the table. It\u2019s essential that we allow them to have access to water for their production. It\u2019s key to ensuring our food security, our economic prosperity, and a sustainable future for all. If you are a farmer or you are a horticulturalist and you\u2019re growing something, you need water to be able to make that food to be able to reach its full maturity. It doesn\u2019t matter whether you\u2019re a farmer, a grower, an orchardist, the backbone of agricultural sector, we work tirelessly to ensure that there\u2019s food on our table, crops in our field, and livestock on our farms. However, the ability to produce food and fibre heavily relies on the access to water. As I know, as an orchardist myself, when it comes to that summertime, we need that water, otherwise all our inputs for a whole year can go to waste if we can\u2019t get our fruit up to size. It puts our livelihoods at risk and also our food supply as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000629\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222837c142-c937-468e-9984-bc646d066687\u0022\u003ENow, the changes to this bill are focused on changes that will take effect quickly to give certainty to councils and to consent applications. Unfortunately, a lot of the previous reforms have just added cost and complexity but have gained very little for our environment. I think we need to be very clear that it\u2019s not a binary situation. We can produce food, we can look after our environment, and it is a win-win situation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000630\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222837c142-c937-468e-9984-bc646d066687\u0022\u003EWe can stand here and legislate things. We can stand here and change the rules, but we need to think of what\u2019s actually happening at the coalface. I think that is what has been missing over the last six years. Regional councils cannot process that absolute volume of consent applications that are required for the winter grazing. Our farmers wouldn\u2019t be able to actually do that because they\u2019d be waiting for the paperwork to come through.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000631\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222837c142-c937-468e-9984-bc646d066687\u0022\u003ENow, let\u2019s be clear: we do care about the environment. I want to do a big shout-out to our farmers. We have heard others all around this House making a big shout-out to our farmers, but usually there\u2019s a \u201Cbut\u201D in there and we always know what\u2019s before the \u201Cbut\u201D. I don\u2019t think I\u2019m allowed to say it in this House, unfortunately, but I think we know where we\u2019re going. So 98 percent of farmers have excluded stock from waterways, with around 25,000 kilometres of fencing erected, while 94 percent of farmers have buffers around their waterways to filter contaminants. We are talking about farmers who have been innovative. They know their land, they know what they can do, they can know how to improve it. Just think about how far our farming practices have come over the last 50\u00A0years. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000632\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222837c142-c937-468e-9984-bc646d066687\u0022\u003EI just also want to make a shout-out to our researchers and AgResearch and the New Zealand Institute for Crop and Food Research, who have done work over water flows and all sorts of things. It is great that we have such talent here in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000633\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222837c142-c937-468e-9984-bc646d066687\u0022\u003EWe are going to get to the same point with or without these extra regulations\u2014this extra complexity which is just adding cost to our farmers who are already under the pump. I will just point out that there\u2019s been a recent report from the University of Canterbury which has revealed that 24 percent of New Zealand\u2019s native vegetation\u2014that\u2019s about 2.8 million hectares\u2014is estimated to be on our sheep and beef farms. Just pointing out how much our farmers care for the environment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000634\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00222837c142-c937-468e-9984-bc646d066687\u0022\u003EA blanket, one-size-fits-all, heavy-handed regulation doesn\u2019t actually suit anybody. But I don\u2019t think anybody in this Chamber will argue when I say we need to look at our resource management in this country. It\u2019s in desperate need of an update, and this bill is our first step in that process as we go. We will be backing our farmers. They are the world\u2019s best producing farmers that we have. We need to have safe produce, we need to have a good environment, and we can have both of these things. Therefore, I recommend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00224a20d1a132544257b38872ed147d72e9\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the Resource Management (Freshwater and Other Matters) Amendment Bill be now read a first time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 68\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 49; ACT New Zealand 11; New Zealand First 8.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 49\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 34; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 15.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000635\u0022\u003EBill read a first time.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u00223d5fd90c12a2446cab0116c537e90827\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000636\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223d5fd90c12a2446cab0116c537e90827\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Greg O\u2019Connor)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is, That the Resource Management (Freshwater and Other Matters) Amendment Bill be considered by the Primary Production Committee.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u0022be7001912a4b44abb16d9f707084bb89\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the motion be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 68\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 49; ACT New Zealand 11; New Zealand First 8.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 49\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 34; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 15.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000637\u0022\u003EBill referred to the Primary Production Committee.\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000638\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b024a11b43f6457a94d3ff17ab9704c3\u0022\u003EInstruction to Primary Production Committee \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u0022bc793292115d4a9da6e8ae508aa34773\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000639\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bc793292115d4a9da6e8ae508aa34773\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister of Justice)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister responsible for RMA Reform: I move, That the Resource Management (Freshwater and Other Matters) Amendment Bill be reported to the House by 30 September 2024.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u00228e3bd90d1a844b598afa0760286f1e64\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the motion be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 68\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 49; ACT New Zealand 11; New Zealand First 8.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 49\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Labour 34; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 15.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u0022bcf2f48d63d14c3cad48b52b6c699e8c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000640\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bcf2f48d63d14c3cad48b52b6c699e8c\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Greg O\u2019Connor)\u003C/span\u003E: The time has come for me to leave the Chair. The House is adjourned until 7.30 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000641\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003ESitting suspended from 5.57 p.m. to 7.30 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000642\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00229af3e05ce91e4c38a3740bae66799c35\u0022\u003ENew Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income (Controlling Interests) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000643\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a447626edb1e4300a343e72d26efb96e\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000644\u0022\u003EDebate resumed from 9 May.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022 data-id=\u0022d9f434387dfd4c408c54aac19e196c1d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000645\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d9f434387dfd4c408c54aac19e196c1d\u0022\u003EANDY FOSTER (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E I\u2019m delighted to rise to this third reading of the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income (Controlling Interests) Amendment Bill. It\u2019s been a very disruptive sort of debate, but, finally, we\u2019ve got to this point, and we will actually get this through and into law. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000646\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EThis is really about the Guardians of the New Zealand Superannuation Fund being able to take controlling interests in entities other than things like real estate, which they\u2019ve always been able to do. Currently, that is prohibited by section 59 of this Act. Really, what this bill is about is reflecting the growing size and maturity of the New Zealand Superannuation Fund. It\u2019s something that\u2019s supported around the House, which is great, it\u2019s non-controversial publicly\u2014I think we only had six submissions on it\u2014and the bill, frankly, is common sense.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000647\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s interesting that when we started this reading, the fund scale was about $72 billion to $74 billion. The last I looked this evening, it\u2019s getting closer to $75 billion, so if we keep going on, it\u2019ll be even bigger. Removing section 59\u2014at the moment, that section constrains the Superannuation Fund\u2019s ability to invest in some New Zealand entities, including in major infrastructure projects, and, really, what this is about is it\u2019s allowing our Superannuation Fund to invest more in our present while it\u2019s also investing in our future. It\u2019s spreading its wings.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000648\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EJust in passing, I\u2019d like to mention the other major Government-aligned investment vehicle, which is the ACC, which currently has about $47 billion under management. So that\u2019s quite a lot between the two of them. Both of them are dealing with future liabilities on behalf of New Zealanders, but both are investments in our collective future but also in our collective present if we manage them well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000649\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EBut we\u2019ve heard some discussion, during this debate, suggesting investing in particular projects within New Zealand, and while that might be great to do that, what we cannot do is we cannot direct the fund to do that. The Superannuation Fund must never be subject to instructions by politicians for whatever reasons. Section 64 of the Act is very clear on that. The Minister can give advice, can give directions, but only having consulted the Guardians, and the Guardians don\u2019t have to take any notice, effectively, only just say what they\u2019ve done in response, or not done in response.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000650\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EBut, during the second reading, our Green colleague across the way there Dr Lawrence Xu-Nan leaned into this issue, and I\u2019ve got to say that I wasn\u2019t particularly comfortable with that, because he said \u201Cwe really would encourage the \u2026 fund to be guided in their activities \u2026 to divest from fossil fuels and the requirement for a portion of the fund to be targeted towards social impact investments, including emission reduction, as well as aligning with the Government\u2019s goal of net-zero carbon by 2050.\u201D They\u2019re all very good things\u2014all very good things\u2014but no, no, no to any interference in the Superannuation Fund Guardians\u2019 ability to do their job.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000651\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EBut I was pleased to see the same member in this third reading express some confidence in the fund\u2019s environmental, social, and governance (ESG) credentials, and I\u2019m going to come back to that later on. So I hope the Green Party does realise, through this debate, that, actually, it can trust the Guardians of the Superannuation Fund to do a really good job, not only in terms of giving us a good return but also in terms of responsible investment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000652\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EMinister Willis, when introducing this reading, talked about nation-building infrastructure, and, yes, there is an opportunity there. The Guardians, at the moment, invest about 14 percent of the fund in New Zealand assets and only about 1 percent of it in New Zealand infrastructure. However, that\u2019s actually overweighted, because the fund\u2019s own annual report says that a benchmark portfolio would only be about 5\u00A0percent weighted in New Zealand. So it\u2019s actually already doing that, and diversification is a fundamental principle of good investment. In fact, the fund\u2019s most recent annual report is titled The Wisdom of Diversity, and they were talking not only about people but diversification of investment. The fund is always going to have the substantial majority of its investments in other parts of the world. But let\u2019s not forget that even if they\u2019re investing in other parts of the world, that is drawing income into New Zealand, it\u2019s helping our balance of payments, and that is contributing positively to our standard of living.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000653\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EI also wanted to note that the fund makes money, in considerable part, through this thing called capital gain. That\u2019s gain in the value of stocks, shares, real estate companies, etc., and that\u2019s the same as KiwiSaver. They gain a lot of their return, or our return, through capital gain. It\u2019s the same as many Kiwis do in investing for our collective future. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000654\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003ECapital gains are not evil. They occur over time and through inflation. They\u2019re nominal. They are about protecting and enhancing the real value of assets over time, and achieving capital gains is not without risk and cost. Capital gains incentivise saving and investment, and that is, without doubt, a good thing, certainly if you want to grow the economy and help address housing-supply shortages. Indeed, without capital gains, many investments simply would not happen. Incentivising investment rather than consumption is also a good thing for our balance of payments, which is one of our greatest financial weaknesses, especially because we keep borrowing from the rest of the world, day after day, to pay for our living standards.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000655\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EBut the fund is already doing some excellent nation-building. It invests in productive farming, and since 2019, under the Labour - New Zealand First coalition, the Guardians have been responsible for the $300 million Elevate New Zealand venture fund, which is about growing emerging businesses, which I think is a fantastic thing. But, fundamentally, the fund is about delivering the best possible risk-adjusted return. Now, that may or may not allow investing in nation-building infrastructure, but the judgment must be made by\u00A0the Guardians\u2014not by politicians trying to put weight on the Guardians, but by the\u00A0Guardians.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000656\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EIn the New Zealand investment environment, if the returns in New Zealand are poor, if we could collectively create an environment that the Guardians don\u2019t think is worth investing in, guess what! They and a whole lot of other people will invest somewhere else, and that is not good for the future of New Zealand, because capital is very, very mobile. So the better our governance, the better our stability, the better our integrity, the better our protection of property rights, the better our productivity, our infrastructure, our education system, and our tax and our regulatory systems are, the more attractive we are not only to the super fund but to all investors, whether they are New Zealanders or overseas people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000657\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EBut, back to the fund. The independence of the Superannuation Fund and its Guardians is essential, and section 58 on that is absolutely clear. It says that \u201CThe Guardians must invest the Fund on a prudent, commercial basis and, in doing so, must manage and administer the Fund in a manner consistent with\u2014(a) best-practice portfolio management;\u201D. They need to \u201C[maximise the] return without undue risk to the Fund as a whole;\u201D, and they must \u201C[avoid] prejudice to New Zealand\u2019s reputation as a responsible member of the world community.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000658\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to say that we are in very, very good hands, and a little history might demonstrate this very, very well. The fund\u2019s clear objective is to offset the growing cost of superannuation on the taxpayer. But there are a lot of assumptions built into this. The fund is projected to pay, on average, about 16 percent of the total cost of superannuation\u2014get this\u2014between 2040 and 2090. So I know Tom Rutherford spoke earlier about saying this is future stuff, but, Tom, I can assure you that you\u2019ll be benefiting from this a long, long time before that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000659\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d64de4c1-ef68-477e-9c50-db5cbdf99404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022684a233eaabe45d3860a3ffaf453e9bb\u0022\u003ETom Rutherford\u003C/span\u003E: I can\u2019t wait\u2014after my 40 years here!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000660\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea35dd26899e4e1da1dc2d77c74b17ac\u0022\u003EANDY FOSTER\u003C/span\u003E: I think you can wait for a little bit.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000661\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EThe Government made an initial investment of $2.4 billion in 2003, and the fund has performed exceptionally well. The average annual return since then has been 9.9 percent before tax but after costs. The Government has invested just $26 billion since 2003, and it\u2019s now worth, as I said, approaching $75 billion. That\u2019s a pretty darn good return. It\u2019s $40 billion more than the cost of the debt borrowed to invest it. So I would say to the folks, particularly on this side of the House, don\u2019t take another holiday from investing in that fund, because it\u2019s been a good investment. The return is $16 billion to $17 billion above the passive benchmark fund, and we need to keep on with it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000662\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EIn short, the Superannuation Fund has delivered an outstanding performance, and, wait, it gets better. The fund has received a large number of awards, and this goes to the ESG side of things. They fall into three areas, and together they tell you that our Superannuation Fund is right at the top of the game. In each of the last three financial years\u20142022, 2023, and 2024\u2014it is ranked the world\u2019s top-performing sovereign wealth fund\u2014top-performing sovereign wealth fund\u2014based on a 10-year return. So over 10\u00A0years, it has been the best in the world. That is something to be very, very proud of. It\u2019s also an exemplar recognised for quality of communication\u2014again, over a whole decade of performance. Also the fund is very highly regarded as a responsible ESG investor with a suite of related awards.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000663\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003ESo I think the fund is performing exceptionally well. Really, what I\u2019m saying is we should keep on relying on the legislation we\u2019ve got there, which is to let the Guardians of the fund get on and do the job that they are doing so well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000664\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003ELook, I\u2019d like to make two final points. First, it was really interesting to look at a list of sovereign wealth funds. Of the 88 funds I looked at, 37\u2014including our Superannuation Fund\u2014are described as \u201Cnon-commodity\u201D, 14 were based on minerals, and 36 were based on oil and gas, and the biggest of those, of course, were the Norwegians, who have a very, very high standard of living. They have the highest use of electric vehicles, but where do they get a lot of their wealth from? Selling oil and gas to other people.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000665\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003EThe last thing I wanted to say is that during this third reading\u2014again going back to Dr\u00A0Lawrence Xu-Nan, he touched on superannuation eligibility, and he said that it would be good if recent migrants were eligible for superannuation more quickly than the 10-year residency requirement we\u2019ve currently got. Actually, he\u2019s slightly wrong on that, because this bill actually says that it\u2019s between 10 and 20, depending on the age of the person that\u2019s come in. But I completely disagree with him, because if we start doing that kind of thing, then the health and superannuation costs will really count against migrants of, should we say, more mature age being attracted to New Zealand. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000666\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003ESo I commend this bill to the House, and I\u2019m looking forward to it being passed into law tonight. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229fa4845f-2fb3-4c2c-828a-40a363d3a159\u0022 data-id=\u00229a905f0fe57a486d9fc2513428175611\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000667\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229fa4845f-2fb3-4c2c-828a-40a363d3a159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229a905f0fe57a486d9fc2513428175611\u0022\u003ECELIA WADE-BROWN (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. It\u2019s a pleasure to support the third reading of this bill and, in broad terms, to agree with my colleague across the\u00A0House. Superannuation is the only benefit that\u2019s not means-tested. Its near universality is admirable, but it\u2019s not perfect. But we\u2019re talking about widening the power of the Guardians of New Zealand Superannuation, not about eligibility, today. It\u2019s strange\u2014almost an anomaly\u2014to do a better job within the existing economic system without a capital gains tax, a wealth tax, nor an inheritance tax. None of those are changes we\u2019re going to see on Thursday, so I don\u2019t have to worry about how many sleeps it is till Budget day.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000668\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229fa4845f-2fb3-4c2c-828a-40a363d3a159\u0022\u003EBut I would like to disagree with the points made about leaving it totally up to the Guardians. At the moment, there are a number of existing excellent exclusions. Despite the connections with the tobacco industry, I have not seen any member of the coalition arguing that we should get rid of the exclusion that stops the New Zealand Superannuation Fund Guardians investing in the tobacco industry. I have not even seen Ministers from parties that are not particularly keen on frogs trying to get rid of the exclusion on companies processing whale meat.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000669\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d64de4c1-ef68-477e-9c50-db5cbdf99404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002295b2f805ad1d48f7bd2b7e82c50d1087\u0022\u003ETom Rutherford\u003C/span\u003E: All right, come back to the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000670\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229fa4845f-2fb3-4c2c-828a-40a363d3a159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f40d4833db294df0ad6d9771137cf26a\u0022\u003ECELIA WADE-BROWN\u003C/span\u003E: These are exclusions that exist now, and we would have liked to have added more exclusions. That is absolutely the topic of the bill, and it could have been the topic of improved amendments. I haven\u2019t even noticed people bringing forward the idea that it\u2019s radical that the Guardians do not invest in developing settlements in Israeli occupied territory. I just think it\u2019s completely inconsistent to say we want them to do the total judgment, we don\u2019t want any thought about investment in fossil fuels or more renewable energy when we\u2019ve already got some really strong exclusions. My suggestion is that certain members on the other side of the House have not read the existing bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000671\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229fa4845f-2fb3-4c2c-828a-40a363d3a159\u0022\u003EI do think it\u2019s important that we get the best return and, like reinsurance councils, I\u2019m sure that these long-term investment funds will not wish to invest in stranded assets and will almost certainly continue their very good returns by not investing in coal or gas or oil. We also understand that the New Zealand Super, like most benefits, although super is not being cut, superannuitants are not being asked to prove that they\u2019re still over 65\u00A0every year, as people receiving disability benefits are. We think it is useful that increasing the effectiveness of the Super Fund may go a little way towards, in the long term, improving the options for increasing superannuation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000672\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229fa4845f-2fb3-4c2c-828a-40a363d3a159\u0022\u003EIt is a pleasure for once to speak to a bill that is going to have unanimous agreement, if not unanimous comprehension, in this House. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022 data-id=\u0022bb9dbf0061e445f580deb15420a2ca25\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000673\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bb9dbf0061e445f580deb15420a2ca25\u0022\u003ESTUART SMITH (National\u2014Kaik\u014Dura):\u003C/span\u003E Well, thank you very much, Mr Speaker. It is a pleasure to speak on the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income (Controlling Interests) Amendment Bill. I\u2019ll come back to the \u201Ccontrolling interests\u201D in brackets a little later.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000674\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EWe have a great Super Fund. It\u2019s actually got $60 billion to $70 billion worth of assets now\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000675\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022389ca7c965e745e5b696c26cd94a69e0\u0022\u003EAndy Foster\u003C/span\u003E: $75 billion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000676\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022987e53a516384608bb1a42636e6a5592\u0022\u003ESTUART SMITH\u003C/span\u003E: $65 billion?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000677\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227dbfbd83-6770-4555-8477-85fa01511504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c0f356d5ce4e4b31b52004457b5961a8\u0022\u003EAndy Foster\u003C/span\u003E: $75 billion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000678\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b9bb465d0545411b99b5f0d3770bbd94\u0022\u003ESTUART SMITH\u003C/span\u003E: $75 billon\u2014OK, it\u2019s gone up. That\u2019s inflation for you. I knew it was bad, but I didn\u2019t think it was that bad. Crikey! Well, there you go. I just looked at my\u00A0speech notes from the previous time, so clearly either that was a long time ago or inflation really is bad. The Super Fund is a huge asset for New Zealand. Regardless of whether there\u2019s $4\u00A0billion or $5 billion in it somewhere else, it is actually a great asset for New Zealand. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000679\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EWhat this bill seeks to do is to allow the Super Fund to be able to take a controlling interest in a company. Now, what does that mean? What is a controlling interest? Well, I went to the Companies Act 1993 to find out what that is, and \u201Ccontrol\u201D is defined in section 7. I won\u2019t bother you with all of the words, but, basically, it really means that a company has the ability to make the appointments on the board of the company without anyone else\u2019s\u00A0support.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000680\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EBut I think it\u2019s a little bit more complicated and nuanced than that, in that having up to 20 percent of the shares in a company may well be, in some cases, defined as a controlling interest because all of the other shareholders had very small parcels and aren\u2019t able to conglomerate together in a unified way, whereas a large entity like the Super Fund holding 20 percent could be a controlling interest. So they never got in that situation because they never sought to do that, and that was because they were set up originally to make investments for a return on those investments and not to own companies. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000681\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EWhile you could understand why they would be required to do that, time has moved on. Not only has time moved on for the Super Fund but in New Zealand, in our case, we actually now have very shallow equity markets and we lack capital and, actually, we have one of the poorest foreign direct investment levels in the OECD.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000682\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003ESo what that means is that companies in New Zealand that want to grow and need capital to do so have got limited choices. Yes, they can borrow money, absolutely, but capital and taking equity stakes in companies\u2014often what comes with the equity is the expertise and it enables those companies to grow. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000683\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EAs you know, I came from the wine industry, so I\u2019m going to give you a bit of a wine industry example. The wine industry would not be what it is today if it were not for foreign direct investment. Those companies that bought investments and bought their capital and invested in New Zealand wineries also bought a route to market, a route to market that would be very difficult to build out quickly. In fact, it takes years to do that, and it particularly does if you\u2019re going to sell at the top end of the market.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000684\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EWhile New Zealand wines are not at the very top of the market as such, on the pyramid, they are right up near the top as relatively small volumes and at quite high values. To actually build a market in that sector\u2014it doesn\u2019t matter what the product is; that is a really difficult thing to do. I think that\u2019s why foreign direct investment is really important.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000685\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EBut we still have this resource here in the Super Fund that has a lot of capital. I can give you an example of one of the potential capital investments that the New Zealand Superannuation Fund could invest in, which, if we hadn\u2019t made this change, I think would be unlikely, and that is in the offshore wind project that they have been associated with, with Copenhagen Infrastructure Partners.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000686\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003ESo if they\u2019re partners and they\u2019re 50:50 partners, is that a controlling interest? I\u2019d argue it is. Anyway, I think that\u2019s a huge project and it would be very difficult to see how anyone else in New Zealand could grow that. Copenhagen Infrastructure Partners don\u2019t have to come to New Zealand. They have $300 billion dollars\u2019 worth of investments and so they can invest their money anywhere; offshore wind is a big industry. But what makes it attractive for them to invest is being close to where the machinery would be built, and that\u2019s in Europe predominantly or in the United States, and all the equipment to put these things in place. You don\u2019t just go out there with a boat with a part of a tower and drop it over the side; it\u2019s quite a complicated business. There\u2019s a lot of associated machinery and skills that go with that, and having an offshore partner like that would be really helpful. But for them to come here, the hook for them was having someone like the New Zealand Superannuation Fund to be a joint partner with them and also having the ability to engage with the Government of New Zealand, because we don\u2019t have any regulations around offshore wind, so I think all those things fit together.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000687\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EThe New Zealand Superannuation Fund doesn\u2019t confine itself to\u2014oh, by the way, I\u2019ll give you some stats for that particular wind farm. Initially, it\u2019s going to be 1 gigawatt\u2014that\u2019s what they think they would like to do. A gigawatt, for scale, is about the size of the Huntly power station. I imagine, though, that that 1 gigawatt they\u2019re talking about is the actual installed capacity. If you have a capacity factor of something like 60 percent to 70 percent, you\u2019re talking about 600 or 700 megawatts. So that\u2019s quite a lot of energy, but it could potentially go to 2 gigawatts. So there\u2019s plenty of area out there that they think suitable where they\u2019re looking to put that in place, so that\u2019s quite a significant investment if they come that way. Actually, I\u2019d better correct myself. I did say $300 billion; they\u2019ve got $25 billion, Copenhagen Infrastructure Partners, invested in offshore wind projects. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000688\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003EThe Super Fund actually also invests in vineyards. They\u2019ve bought some significant vineyard assets in Marlborough. They\u2019re not making wine; they\u2019re owning land and either growing the grapes themselves and managing that or getting someone to do that on contract. They\u2019ve put some investments in that area. I\u2019m pretty sure they\u2019ve invested in Hawke\u2019s Bay in apples, and I know they\u2019ve invested in kiwifruit and I know they\u2019re looking at investments in apples further afield.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000689\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003ESo they are significant players in the New Zealand scene and it\u2019s something that I think we should be very proud of, actually. We do have large companies like Cooperative, as it happens, like Fonterra and other entities like that\u2014Air New Zealand as well\u2014but they are busy in their own businesses, not looking to broaden out their investments into other fields and, therefore, to allow our economy to grow. Particularly now where we are, we have to move\u2014we don\u2019t want to do away with our agricultural roots, by any means, but we do need to take a tech focus now and build off those good agricultural-producing entities in New Zealand and industries that have really built our economy. We need to take the next step, and that next step is going to require money and lots of it and a really significant player that has the ability to attract the people with the relevant skills to manage and develop those industries that they invest into.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000690\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022094b0ff4-e404-451b-b4a9-ad12bd4dee56\u0022\u003ESo I\u2019m really very pleased to support this bill. I\u2019d like to finish briefly\u2014the former speaker, Celia Wade-Brown, I don\u2019t quite agree with everything she says in terms of investments. I think investments should be made based on the return on those investments, not on what they\u2019re doing. She made a reference to oil and gas, which I don\u2019t agree with. It doesn\u2019t matter whether I did agree with it or not; it should be for the investment company to decide what they want to invest in based on the fundamentals that they see in that entity. If they don\u2019t like oil and gas, that\u2019s fine; they don\u2019t have to invest in it. But they shouldn\u2019t be beholden to anyone else for their decisions as long as they\u2019re within the law and they\u2019re investing for the betterment of New Zealand. With that, I commend the bill to the House. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022 data-id=\u0022baa6c2671921402291ba7acee8f9a112\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000691\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022baa6c2671921402291ba7acee8f9a112\u0022\u003EHon Dr DEBORAH RUSSELL (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E The House is in somewhat\u2014well, not even furious, but just solid agreement on this bill, that it is a good bill and that it should be passed into law. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000692\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022\u003EI do want to remind the House of just some of the features of the New Zealand Superannuation Fund. I want to remind the House that for a long time it had and still continues to have a nickname. It\u2019s known as the Cullen fund, and that is because it was set up originally by Michael Cullen, when he was the Minister of Finance, in order to ensure that we had sufficient funds, not to pay all of New Zealand\u2019s superannuation costs in the future, but, really, to smooth out the cost of New Zealand superannuation and, in particular, to deal with what we think will be the peak years of demand on New Zealand superannuation when it has the largest impost on our Budget each year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000693\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022\u003ENow, at the moment, New Zealand superannuation costs about $19 billion a year. That amount is predicted to go up, and it will go up not just in absolute terms but as a proportion of the Budget each year. If we are to stick with universal superannuation, which has a huge number of benefits, and if we are to retain it at age 65\u2014which is possibly not so important for people here in this House, where we do a job sitting at a desk and giving speeches and engaging in meetings, but it\u2019s very, very important for people whose bodies are exhausted by physical labour\u2014we need to find some way to fund superannuation out into the future, and that is what the Cullen fund helps to do. It was set up by Sir Michael Cullen and it has earned a substantial return, a return that was, alas, forgone in the years when the previous National Government decided not to keep on putting funds into the New Zealand Superannuation Fund. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000694\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022\u003EHowever, the fund started again after the election of the Labour Government in 2017, and it now does control about $70 billion worth of assets. But the Guardians of New Zealand Superannuation are looking for higher returns. They are looking for ways to ensure that we continue to earn good returns on the funds that are invested and that is why it is now appropriate to enable them to take controlling interest in some entities, and this is precisely what this bill does.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000695\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022\u003EThe interesting thing is that the former Minister of Finance Grant Robertson, who got this particular piece of legislation going\u2014when he was getting it under way, he consulted Sir Michael, sometime before Sir Michael died, about whether or not this was something that Sir Michael had had in his vision for the fund. Sir Michael did say that, actually, it was probably about time that the range of investments that the Guardians could make was actually expanded, and the reason for expanding it is primarily to ensure that the Guardians can earn a better return on the fund. It\u2019s not to make particular investments because they happen to suit someone else here in New Zealand because they might build a bit of infrastructure or they might create a route to market, or whatever. It\u2019s to ensure that the Superannuation Fund itself earns a decent return. That\u2019s the objective of the Superannuation Fund. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000696\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002212d74f81-b1f7-4b51-9fb4-8f9481477192\u0022\u003ESo this bill simply enables all that. It enables the Guardians to earn a greater return. It is a good bill. It was started by the Labour Government before the previous election. It has been picked up and continued by the National - ACT - New Zealand First Government. It\u00A0is a bill with which we all agree, and I don\u2019t think there\u2019s any further need to debate it. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a00bf4f5-c63a-49a0-b0e1-d3b37311377b\u0022 data-id=\u0022ad43c06549dc48408904b5f8caccbf23\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000697\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a00bf4f5-c63a-49a0-b0e1-d3b37311377b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ad43c06549dc48408904b5f8caccbf23\u0022\u003ECATHERINE WEDD (National\u2014Tukituki):\u003C/span\u003E I rise to support this New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income (Controlling Interests) Amendment Bill because it aligns with this Government\u2019s plans to strengthen our economy and provide for our ageing population. The fund adds to Crown wealth, improves the ability of future Governments to pay for superannuation, and reduces the tax burden of the cost of superannuation on future generations of New Zealanders. Passing this bill will promote operational efficiencies. It will help ensure the New Zealand Superannuation Fund\u2019s assets are being managed in the best way possible and provide benefit to all New Zealanders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000698\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a00bf4f5-c63a-49a0-b0e1-d3b37311377b\u0022\u003EThe New Zealand Superannuation Fund has been very successful, as we\u2019ve already heard tonight. It\u2019s grown and matured, and it\u2019s at a stage where we need to take that next step to grow that fund further so we can sustain our ageing population. I was very, very impressed during the select committee annual reviews with the success of this fund and the huge potential that it has. We\u2019ve already heard tonight that the fund sits at over $70\u00A0billion and is projected to reach $110\u00A0billion by the end of the decade. It really has a healthy return of 11.9 percent\u2014so huge opportunity for investment. Removing the control restriction provides the Guardians with added flexibility around the implementation of the investment strategy. This approach is consistent with the Guardians\u2019 mandate to invest the fund on a prudent commercial basis and, in doing so, managing the fund in a manner that is consistent with best-practice portfolio management.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000699\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a00bf4f5-c63a-49a0-b0e1-d3b37311377b\u0022\u003EI think there are big opportunities to invest here in New Zealand. We\u2019ve heard many times that we\u2019ve got a huge infrastructure deficit, so to open this fund up for more investment here will be great. It\u2019s timely to take this opportunity to look at some of the investments we\u2019ve already seen from the Superannuation Fund, and that\u2019s opportunities in agriculture, where the fund has already been investing, as we\u2019ve already heard a little bit tonight, from dairy investments to a diverse portfolio including horticulture, viticulture, and hops, with the portfolio exceeding about $1\u00A0billion\u2014so, really positive for agriculture investments. And, of course, our primary industries have been struggling recently with a lot of red tape and regulation, so opening up more capital could be very beneficial. As we have already heard, and as my colleague here spoke about the wine industry, we actually heard from New Zealand Winegrowers just the other day. We see huge opportunity for investment in the wine industry. They see it as a $2.29 billion industry at the moment. It has grown by 13 percent, and the industry has actually grown from 35,000 hectares to 41,000 hectares. Hawke\u2019s Bay, where I\u2019m from, is a huge winegrowing region.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000700\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a00bf4f5-c63a-49a0-b0e1-d3b37311377b\u0022\u003EI would actually just like to commend also the chair of the Finance and Expenditure Committee, Stuart Smith, for his cellar door tasting amendment bill, enabling cellar doors to charge for tastings. It\u2019s this type of legislation which supports our wine industry. During these discussions with the winegrowers, we also heard how supportive they were of some of our Government\u2019s direction, which is about reducing red tape and regulation. It\u2019s supporting water storage and, of course, infrastructure because getting bottles of wine to the port as fast as possible and out to the markets is very, very important. Coming from Hawke\u2019s Bay, it\u2019s heartening to see that we\u2019ve got this Government investing in our roads of national significance and the four-lane expressway in Hawke\u2019s Bay, which will get that wine to port faster. This is beneficial when we are investing in our infrastructure.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000701\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a00bf4f5-c63a-49a0-b0e1-d3b37311377b\u0022\u003EThey were also very happy to see us out in the world, looking at more market access and investment opportunities, because, as we\u2019ve already heard, capital investment in New Zealand, in our agriculture sector particularly, which creates a lot of our exports and wealth in this country, is really, really important. We need to be an attractive option for investors, and that is why this bill is really important. I talk about these industries because this bill will enable the Guardians to diversify investment. That\u2019s not just offshore but it\u2019s focusing investment at home here. We need to get on top of our infrastructure deficit, and opening up more capital opportunities will be positive. This is why I\u2019m very, very supportive of this bill, and I would like to commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u00224b0fd222d6da4c2b99f5dba02edf59ea\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000702\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224b0fd222d6da4c2b99f5dba02edf59ea\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: The next call is a split call\u2014Helen White\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225ec01d23-b55e-45b9-a668-d3bf14212126\u0022 data-id=\u0022957ec22286cd4f638df07ecc8d9413e5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000703\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225ec01d23-b55e-45b9-a668-d3bf14212126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022957ec22286cd4f638df07ecc8d9413e5\u0022\u003EHELEN WHITE (Labour\u2014Mt Albert):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I am really pleased to take a call on this bill because I was on the Finance and Expenditure Committee as it was going through, and it was something that I learnt a lot about and I really enjoyed learning about, because it was really a story of great success and security for the country, and it started with Sir Michael Cullen setting up this fund. I want to end where my friend and colleague the Hon Deborah Russell ended, which is with the people who this will impact on, the people who work really hard and get worn out.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000704\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225ec01d23-b55e-45b9-a668-d3bf14212126\u0022\u003EBut I want to start at the beginning, because it is important that the fund wasn\u2019t set up with this particular mechanism in it, because there was a cautiousness about the situation. Those Guardians have done a good job of being independent to making prudent choices, and they\u2019ve built up a fund. They\u2019ve, basically, frankly, run out of things to invest in, in lots of ways, without being able to move to a controlling interest. Now, there\u2019s some really good things that happen when you have a controlling interest with regard to other investors. That\u2019s one thing I learnt in the process of looking at this bill, was that other investors will come alongside if the Guardians throw their weight behind and invest in something. That makes sense. The Guardians do due diligence, they come in, they\u2019re a very stable investor, and so other investors will be attracted to things that we need in this country\u2014infrastructure, etc. So I do think there\u2019s an element of double duty going on here, when other investors can come along and invest behind the Super Fund, investing in something, and we can have investment in our own needs in this country while growing the wealth of the country.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000705\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225ec01d23-b55e-45b9-a668-d3bf14212126\u0022\u003ENow, that kind of long-term view of the Super Fund is something that I do need to set in a context, because it\u2019s not always been like that. This particular fund has not been treated as valuable as it should have been at certain times. After the global financial crisis, there was a freezing up of investment by the Government in the Super Fund. Now, if we had kept investing, there would have been $20 billion more in this fund today. We would have been so much better off as a country as a result\u2014$20 billion. The fund is about $70 billion now. So $20 billion is a fair whack if we had kept investing at that time. I hope that the lessons have been learnt. It\u2019s not a case of blame, really; it\u2019s a case of really understanding that this is a very important fund, and we need to treat it with respect. We never need to do that again, because we\u2019ve got an ageing population and we have a fund here that is a taonga, and we need to protect it and look after it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000706\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225ec01d23-b55e-45b9-a668-d3bf14212126\u0022\u003ESo I\u2019m comfortable, having been on the committee, with the changes that are being made and the cautiousness. I take the comments that were made about how we should not be standing in this House and deciding what the fund invests in. But I\u2019m also confident that the Guardians have taken a really long-term view of those investments, and a responsible one, and that the approach that they\u2019ve taken\u2014I\u2019m heartened by the comments of Matt Whineray in 2017. I\u2019d just like to remind the House of those. He said at that point when they were divesting out of fossil fuels, when they stopped doing that, he said we think climate change represents a material risk that is not being properly priced into the market\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000707\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225ec01d23-b55e-45b9-a668-d3bf14212126\u0022\u003EThat means that the people and the Guardians in the fund have priced in that risk. They have thought about it, they are thinking in the future, and I wonder whether from that we could do well as a Government, as a Parliament, to learn the lesson here. These investments that we make in fossil fuels\u2014when we restart things like oil and gas\u2014we are taking a dreadful toll on our communities because these are risky investments. They\u2019re not sound. I doubt very much that the independent guardians will be investing in any such investments; they will be making sound judgments. I\u2019d love to see them do things like a dry dock, which would help the Auckland Harbour get cleaner and it would help the Whang\u0101rei community. I\u2019d love to see them get behind. But it will be their decision, and they will make a prudent decision. I\u2019m very happy to commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022 data-id=\u00228f27ae9144ea4199b360e83707f029c7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000708\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228f27ae9144ea4199b360e83707f029c7\u0022\u003ERYAN HAMILTON (National\u2014Hamilton East):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. It\u2019s a real pleasure to speak on this. I\u2019m actually really excited to speak on it tonight. I must give credit where credit is due and also acknowledge Sir Michael Cullen on his work on this and also, of course, KiwiSaver, which is truly a blessing to the future of this country. So I do acknowledge that, and some of the k\u014Drero of the previous speakers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000709\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003EOne thing that I\u2019m really excited about with this bill is the fact that it removes existing control restrictions and\u2014the keyword here\u2014opens the New Zealand Superannuation Fund to a broader array of investment partners and opportunities, particularly in strategic infrastructure, deepening the capital markets for local transactions. I\u2019m very keen on infrastructure, as is this party, and anything that we can do to promote better infrastructure investment. We know we\u2019ve campaigned on infrastructure funding and financing, special purpose vehicles, tolling, foreign investment, value capture\u2014all that stuff\u2014but if we can get it right within our own country, with our own investment portfolio, I think that\u2019s really exciting. And, of course, as we know, the fund is increasing and so is the life expectancy of New Zealanders. So it\u2019s important that we have a commensurate investment strategy and regime that meets that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000710\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003EThe Finance and Expenditure Committee (FEC), which I\u2019m now pleased to be a part of, has recommended that we pass this bill without amendment\u2014and, obviously, this has clear cross-party support. It\u2019s a pragmatic solution and something which I\u2019m really keen to support also. I also just note that the FEC report said that this draft legislation goes a step further in freeing up the fund to exert control over active operating companies, and would therefore \u201Crepresent a meaningful change to what the Guardians could do.\u201D I\u2019m all about meaningful change, as is this party.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000711\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003EBut what I really want to speak on tonight is, I guess, an analogous correlation to what this bill represents. I can\u2019t help but think of it compared to a hot bubble bath. Bear with me, Mr Speaker, while I give you an example. You can imagine on a cold night, you\u2019ve got a bit of a chill, and you come home and you think, \u201CGosh, I\u2019d love to hop in a big, deep bubble bath.\u201D There\u2019s a few things that make a bubble bath quite good, and I\u2019ll just share a few of them. One is the temperature of the water. The temperature of the water, it\u2019s very important\u2014and the depth of the water too, because if you want a bath, you can imagine, you don\u2019t want a shallow, stink bath; you want a deep bath with good hot water.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000712\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003EThe other things which make a bath good [Interruption]\u2014if I could; there\u2019s a bit of noise on this side of the House\u2014is a good bubble mixture, Mr Speaker, because you\u2019ve got hot water, deep temperature. Bubbles, you know, contribute to it, and, ideally, if they\u2019re perfumed\u2014that helps too, the aroma of the bath. And also the lighting: if the lighting is dimmed a little bit, or even no light, or candlelight is actually quite good too. Also, perhaps, a little bit of music, Mr Speaker. So you\u2019ve got a deep bubble bath, the right temperature, good perfumed bubbles\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u0022a6648a0850424ca9bd3a4f752c5d8ff4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000713\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a6648a0850424ca9bd3a4f752c5d8ff4\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: Is there any of that wine investment along there, as well?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000714\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002253b47c6b424f454f86e83510e3af0384\u0022\u003ERYAN HAMILTON\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014no light or low light with the candles. Yeah, no, this is coming to a real good comparison, Mr Speaker. And so\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000715\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a6489ff5-e18c-4c19-958d-3cec5c52c0cc\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022844df13a6d2244bbb6da1a98341c9124\u0022\u003EScott Willis\u003C/span\u003E: Glass of wine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000716\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221e850db7204d4d4b9fbd67868f40f8de\u0022\u003ERYAN HAMILTON\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, so a glass of wine, or potentially\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000717\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002252355184920848e68101417ca6b9a93d\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, 35 millilitres from the cellar door!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000718\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b7ddfda5fec14b40ad7c4d585b53263b\u0022\u003ERYAN HAMILTON\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, 35 millilitres, or a green mojito, or something like that, that you just top it off.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000719\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003ENow, that\u2019s what this bill will do: it\u2019s like the \u201CHot Bath Bill\u201D. And if you think: not having a controlling interest is like having that expectation to hop into that bath, and then getting into a bath when it\u2019s like\u2014you were excited to hop in the bath, and the plug\u2019s been leaking. You hop in and the water doesn\u2019t even cover your thighs, and the temperature is, like, tepid. The light\u2019s bright, like sterile, and it doesn\u2019t provide that atmosphere. The bubble bath is non-existent because there\u2019s no bubbles, and that would be a terrible thing, to hop into a bath.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000720\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003ESo, I guess, just to recap, you\u2019ve got a deep bath, hot temperature\u2014I\u2019m thinking 45-50 degrees\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000721\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022050deaefc0924c16ab8c40b07a8bee98\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: You call that a hot bath?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000722\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002294b52412-f97b-4bbd-8009-5dc49520f7f4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f2dc9618ff734a13a43317e1ee03a382\u0022\u003ERYAN HAMILTON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it could be hotter, but, you know, each to their own\u2014we\u2019re a party of free choice. Good bubbles, a good thick density of bubbles, good background music, the lighting dim, potentially flickering candlelight, soft background music, and then, possibly, a drink as well. This is as compared to a shallow, stink bath that\u2019s got leaking water. It\u2019s quite shallow. It\u2019s lukewarm, it\u2019s a bit chilly. And you\u2019re really looking forward to the bath, and it\u2019s a bit chilly. The water\u2019s leaking. The light\u2019s bright. There\u2019s no music. There\u2019s no bubble bath. Your spouse is yelling at you, potentially, and the kids are fighting in the background. But, Mr Speaker, this bath\u2014the controlling interest is like hopping into a bath that you have control of. It\u2019s like hot water. The bubbles\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022 data-id=\u002237093ae0087848cf8cf2ff61569aca42\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000723\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002237093ae0087848cf8cf2ff61569aca42\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: The member\u2019s time has expired. I don\u2019t know if that was in the bill, but maybe it should be. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002262ff759d-9586-405a-a6e6-208ad65adeb5\u0022 data-id=\u00229e270f31215446ef94cdc51cfe079861\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000724\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002262ff759d-9586-405a-a6e6-208ad65adeb5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229e270f31215446ef94cdc51cfe079861\u0022\u003ETANGI UTIKERE (Labour\u2014Palmerston North):\u003C/span\u003E Meitaki maata, Mr Speaker. Look, I thank the member for putting the House into a state of relaxation at this point in the evening. But, for the benefit of those who may be watching, we are now debating the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income (Controlling Interests) Amendment Bill. It\u2019s a pleasure to rise in support of this bill, a bill that enjoys cross-party support in Parliament, because this is a bill that will change the law and that will allow the New Zealand Superannuation Fund, colloquially known as the Cullen fund, to take an interest in an entity\u2014but not just any old interest, a controlling interest at that. That\u2019s because the time has come\u2014it marks the next step in the growth and development of the Cullen fund. But it also allows for the fund to play its part in doing its bit towards the future in terms of preparing the country in meeting the costs of superannuation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000725\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002262ff759d-9586-405a-a6e6-208ad65adeb5\u0022\u003EI note that we on this side of the House want to always give Kiwis certainty around their retirement, and so that\u2019s why we have, in terms of addressing this legislation, maintained the super age at 65. It is unfortunate that some members of parties in this House have not, perhaps, done the same, because it does assist in the sustainability of the fund and in the many years ahead.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000726\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002262ff759d-9586-405a-a6e6-208ad65adeb5\u0022\u003EThe Act as it currently stands does direct the Guardians of New Zealand Superannuation to do what they can to actually avoid funding\u2014in the sense of a controlling stake in an entity. The reason as to why that is in place is because the original purpose of the fund was to get exposure at the time, rather than to own businesses or have a controlling aspect in businesses or entities. So removing this limitation, which is exactly what this bill does this evening, will allow the Cullen fund to access a broader group of investment opportunities, including here in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000727\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002262ff759d-9586-405a-a6e6-208ad65adeb5\u0022\u003EEarlier, Mr Foster talked about the independence from political influence. The good thing about this bill is it doesn\u2019t make any changes in that regard, so Mr Foster is quite right.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000728\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002262ff759d-9586-405a-a6e6-208ad65adeb5\u0022\u003EBut this is a bill that will provide flexibility moving forward, and it will allow investment decisions taken by the Guardians to be a little bit more flexible, which is what we are wanting to achieve. It\u2019s wonderful that this does enjoy cross-party support. It is a bill that was introduced by the Labour Government. It\u2019s wonderful to see it through third reading. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022 data-id=\u0022bb79ed19070d4e55a20a3833f3331734\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000729\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bb79ed19070d4e55a20a3833f3331734\u0022\u003ENANCY LU (National):\u003C/span\u003E Mr Speaker, I stand before you to support the third reading of the New Zealand Superannuation and Retirement Income (Controlling Interests) Amendment Bill. At its core, the amendment seeks to empower the New Zealand Superannuation Fund by removing the limitations, thereby granting the Guardian\u2019s ability to take controlling stakes in the variety of entities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000730\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003ENow, the changes proposed to this bill are not merely admin, as it sounds, but are actually quite transformative. That aligns our Superannuation Fund in New Zealand with the global best practices, and positions our fund to capitalise on significant investment opportunities right here in New Zealand. In the modern investment environment, flexibility and strategic foresight are paramount. The current limitations for our fund in New Zealand have actually hindered the ability for the fund to fully capitalise on the dynamic and adaptable and flexible investment opportunities both domestically in New Zealand but also globally over the shore.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000731\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003ENow, the world of investment has evolved drastically over the last 10 and 20 years, and as a mature investment fund, the New Zealand Superannuation Fund must also evolve and catch up. It needs to be equipped with the ability to adapt to a modern economy and also to explore a wider range of investment opportunities, especially with those available in New Zealand. So by allowing the Guardians to take a controlling interest, we are actually allowing ourselves to align with the progressive trend, ensuring that our fund is not a passive speculator, but, actually, a very proactive participant in shaping the future and shaping the investments that it invests into.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000732\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003ENow, part of the bill actually talked about the champions of integrating ESG\u2014which is environmental, social, and governance\u2014criteria in the fund\u2019s investment decisions. So by enabling the Guardians to have that controlling interest, we are actually allowing the fund to have the ability to influence and shift investment decisions. Now, this approach aligns with global standards, but it also resonates with values of Kiwis in our country, in our community, by ensuring that our investment reflects our commitment to the environment, to social responsibility, and to ethical governance.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000733\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003ENow, during the select committee stages, we deliberated on the potential impacts of this bill and this is how I feel after we finished the select committee stage: which is the amendments that we are doing are enhancing the economic sovereignty of New Zealand. The Guardians will now, after passing this bill tonight, have access to a broader array of partnership opportunities that promises not only financial returns with but also a strategic benefit to our economy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000734\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003EDuring the submission stage, we\u2019ve also considered, heard, and debated the merit, and also arrived at a consensus across the House that respects the need to both grow our own investment and grow with safety and insurance. So I do want to take the opportunity to thank all the members on the Finance and Expenditure Committee who share similar thoughts and insights looking into the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000735\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003ENow, as I debated and researched about the fund and I looked into the fund\u2019s performance\u2014if I can quickly allude to, at the end of the 2023 financial year, the fund had returned 11.87 percent for the preceding 12 months, almost 8 percent for the previous five years, almost 11 percent per annum over the previous 10 years, and about 10 percent per annum since inception. These returns are actually in excess of the return of New Zealand Treasury bills. And guess what! The New Zealand Superannuation Fund is one of the few sovereign wealth funds in the world that actually pay taxes in their home country. So imagine this: by allowing the fund to do better, by allowing them to have more opportunity to invest, they bring more return for New Zealanders and they also pay more taxes in New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000736\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003ESo, with all of the above, I\u2019m actually very proud that I\u2019m part of the team and part of the committee to be seeing and supporting this bill through. So, in conclusion, this bill reflects that we now have a forward-thinking approach to our national investment. It also recognises the role that the fund has in providing long-term security to our superannuitants and improving the opportunities to enhance returns for all of New Zealand. So, in the step of developments to similar funds to the other parts of the world, I join all members across the House tonight and commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000737\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000738\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00224d4dae97-e385-42a3-9791-5440c8cc9b3c\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000739\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022ee7e06208733406080a6efb5de9f1cd5\u0022\u003ENg\u0101ti Tara Tokanui Claims Settlement Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000740\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022faa57d26a48c4d33aa661dbf5c6a3052\u0022\u003ESecond Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000741\u0022\u003EDebate resumed from 7 May.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022 data-id=\u002281cc379ac87f4eabacbd3dd7fb3e7aad\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000742\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002281cc379ac87f4eabacbd3dd7fb3e7aad\u0022\u003EHon PEENI HENARE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare; thank you for this opportunity. When we discuss the Treaty bills, we always look towards the second reading, which is always considered after the considerations of the committee; the good work that\u2019s done by the committee to make sure that members across the tribe and those impacted by the settlement\u2014and in this case, the settlement for te Pire Whakataunga Ker\u0113me a Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui\u2014it\u2019s a good opportunity to cover some of the issues, to discuss some of the matters in the bill, but more importantly how they relate to those that it affects the most.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000743\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWe saw most recently, of course, in the Whakat\u014Dhea settlement bill, which passed through its third reading this afternoon, expressions from hap\u016B about some of the dissatisfaction with their particular claims with respect to the bill. But there was a guarantee in there that the Waitangi Tribunal will continue the work it\u2019s doing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000744\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EIn the case of Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui, there\u2019s an opportunity here to support the claimants and those who are looking towards addressing the past, but also making sure that Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui puts itself in a good position into the future through settlements. It speaks of a number of protocols in the bill that will allow Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui to be able to progress their interests into the future. It was made clear through the submissions, and of course in the bill here this evening, that the hard work has been done. The negotiations have all but been completed. Of course, it\u2019s now up to this House to make sure that it progresses in a timely manner to allow Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui to get on with what they need to get on with. So it\u2019s my honour to have a short second reading call on this bill here this evening and commend it to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022 data-id=\u002290078b98fa704239863a656d90247129\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000745\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002290078b98fa704239863a656d90247129\u0022\u003ERIMA NAKHLE (National\u2014Takanini):\u003C/span\u003E I rise to give a k\u014Drero in support of this bill before the House right now, the Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui Claims Settlement Bill. We\u2019re in the second reading, as the speaker before me, Peeni Henare, just mentioned, and for the benefit of people watching from home, including my brother, whose birthday it is today\u2014happy birthday, Tony; I love you so much, but not taking away from the magnitude of this bill\u2014this bill will give legislative effect to the provisions requiring so in the deed of settlement signed between the Crown and Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui in June\u00A02022.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000746\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003ENow, if I may, just a brief background on a couple of areas\u2014first, a brief background on Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui, the iwi. Now, it\u2019s an interesting story. It\u2019s composed of Ng\u0101ti Tara and Ng\u0101ti Tokanui. They had distinct whakapapa back in the day, but they were joined over many generations through intermarriage\u2014[Receives water from member] thank you, my friend Tom Rutherford, great local MP\u2014and together created the iwi known today as Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui. Now, worth putting on record, I believe, also is that during the 19th century, Ng\u0101ti Tara rangatira described themselves primarily as Ng\u0101ti Koi, so if we ever see this reference with respect to speaking about this bill, just for the benefit of members and others listening, that also can refer to Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui. They\u2019re an iwi based around Paeroa in the Hauraki region, and they\u2019re one of 12 iwi and hap\u016B that have interests in the Hauraki region. The area of interest is centred around Paeroa and extends west into the Hauraki Plains and north to the base of the beautiful, breathtaking Coromandel Peninsula at Wharekawa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000747\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003ENow, just a little bit about the historical account which underpins this Treaty settlement. In essence, the history between the Crown and Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui is one of land confiscation, land acquirement through misgivings, and gross disrespect and disregard for tangata whenua. It\u2019s agreed that this kind of began around 1865, when the Crown confiscated almost 300,000 acres of land around the Tauranga area, thereby extinguishing all customary interests in the land. Some land was returned to other iwi by the Crown, but Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui had no land returned to them and did not appear to have signed the sale deeds or to have been paid by the Crown despite the fact that they had interests in the land that was included in the confiscation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000748\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EThere\u2019s so much\u2014there\u2019s so much history, and there\u2019s so much that took place\u2014but if I can come to a kind of summary, today just two acres, two out of all of Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui\u2019s original holdings agreement with respect to creating a gold mine, remain in M\u0101ori ownership. The reason why I share these historical backdrops is because it\u2019s important that they\u2019re put on record and that members of the House and listeners at home, including my brother, receive a clear picture as to the extent of the damage and the ripple effect that land confiscation has on iwi for generations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000749\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EComing back to our recent history and perhaps the impetus for this Treaty settlement, Ng\u0101ti Tara Tokanui formed the Pare Hauraki Collective in 2009, specifically for the purpose of negotiating a Treaty settlement. In 2011, a deed of settlement was initialled, but it wasn\u2019t until June 2022 that a deed of settlement was signed, and this portrays once again, as we reflected on today when we were talking about Whakat\u014Dhea and other Treaty settlements, how Treaty settlements span not only years but decades and, indeed, generations. The genesis of the negotiations for this Treaty settlement occurred under the stewardship of the Hon Christopher Finlayson, then the Hon Andrew Little, and now under the care of the Hon Paul Goldsmith.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000750\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EI look forward to the third reading when I would like to go into a little bit more detail about the past but also going into the future. We commend this bill to the House. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000751\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000752\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002239b9bac1-a992-4ccf-a473-9591aeb3a298\u0022\u003EBill read a second time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000753\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00222efa67d717cc480b972152c49ae4dcb2\u0022\u003EImmigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000754\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f7987d36013d433eacdb87929321904a\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022 data-id=\u0022a9748ffe8c2243699ee9879d008fa3d0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000755\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022a9748ffe8c2243699ee9879d008fa3d0\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD (Minister of Immigration):\u003C/span\u003E I present to the House a legislative statement to support the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000756\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d42e8cf-544e-415d-892b-f4ef8014d80f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f4e319cd16044c4da1a1e8bbbf87540e\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Teanau Tuiono)\u003C/span\u003E: That legislative statement is published under the authority of the House and can be found on the Parliament website.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000757\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002241b8acea47414911a16056bd3dc44417\u0022\u003EHon ERICA STANFORD\u003C/span\u003E: I move, That the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill be now read a third time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000758\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003EAs has been canvassed in previous debates, this bill has been introduced to the House to address potential legal risks to a mass arrival coming to New Zealand. In 2019, a review of the Immigration Act identified shortcomings in the existing mass arrivals provisions that presented some legal risk to the safe and effective management of a mass arrival, if one were to occur\u2014namely, the risk that the current deadline of just 96 hours is simply not enough time for an immigration officer to initially process a group, do security and identity checks, determine whether detention of a mass arrival group is necessary, and apply for a group warrant of commitment and have it heard and decided by a judge. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000759\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003EThat means that if a mass arrival group were to come to New Zealand and if there were a need to detain them, a hearing on a warrant of commitment might need to be held without legal representation for members of that group. This is a breach of their fundamental human right to natural justice, and I do not consider that to be an acceptable scenario. So, as a responsible thing to do, I have progressed this legislation through the House to address this legal risk.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000760\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003EThe bill and its subsequent amendments in the committee of the whole House will strengthen our immigration and court system and enable New Zealand to safely and securely manage a mass arrival, should one ever occur. Though I\u2019ve only been the Minister of Immigration since November last year, I have followed the debate and engaged with this issue of mass arrivals and I remain convinced that this is a responsible thing to do. The debate on this topic, both in Parliament and in the public sphere through the select committee process, has highlighted strong feelings that Kiwis have towards upholding human rights and natural justice. The debate so far has demonstrated the difficulty that many had in engaging with this complex issue right from the start, highlighting the need for clear and accurate information. I\u2019ll endeavour in my speech today to provide my parliamentary colleagues and the public with that information as clearly as possible to eliminate any confusion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000761\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003ETo those who remain concerned, let me assure you that our enduring commitment to upholding the fundamental human rights of all people remains intact. In that light, I\u2019d like to thank all of those who voted for the changes to the bill at the committee of the whole House stage. There were four changes that I proposed. The first change was to establish that a mass arrival group cannot be detained in prison or at a police station. The second change is to require an immigration officer to establish why any proposed detention is necessary; that any detention sought is for the least amount of time and is the least restrictive necessary; and how a proposed detention meets our obligations under the New Zealand Bill\u00A0of Rights Act, the 1951 Refugee Convention, and our other international obligations. The third change requires an immigration officer to report to the court weekly on a mass arrival group. The final change enables a judge to order that the location of proposed detention be changed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000762\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003EThese amendments will guide how Immigration New Zealand and the courts will operate in the event of a mass arrival and ensure that the right to natural justice and the right to not be arbitrarily detained are upheld. They were developed to allay the concerns of those who had submitted on the bill during select committee process and strengthen the human rights protections in the bill and reflect our longstanding reputation of upholding human rights.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000763\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003EI also want to touch briefly on the amendments put forward by my colleague the Hon Phil Twyford. I thank Mr Twyford for engaging with Minister Penk during the committee of the whole House. Mr Twyford\u2019s tabled amendment covered three things: that families could not be separated during detention, that a third-party organisation be engaged to monitor treatment and conditions of detention, and that time limits on detention be scaled according to the size of the group. I\u2019d like to reiterate what my colleague Mr Penk has expressed: that we wholeheartedly agree with the principles of those amendments\u2014namely that the detention should be for the shortest amount of time and the least restrictive necessary, and that they are safeguarded against bad treatment stemming from their detention. Unfortunately, we did not agree with the text of the amendment itself, and I\u2019d just like to touch briefly on why.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000764\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003ERegarding family separation: in no way do we want to separate families unless absolutely necessary. Unfortunately, there are some circumstances where it may be absolutely necessary, such as in instances of family and intimate partner violence, child trafficking, or where a real threat to security or the public has been identified.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000765\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003ERegarding independent monitoring. As outlined in committee, New Zealand already has a number of independent monitoring arrangements of immigration\u2014notably the Ombudsman and the Office of the Children\u2019s Commissioner as national preventative mechanisms under our obligations to the UN conventions against torture. These are trusted, independent Crown entities that are governed by legislation. I would implore members of the House to trust that they will execute their statutory functions appropriately.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000766\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003EAnd, finally, a scaled time limit system of detention wouldn\u2019t be appropriate for this legislation as there are many reasons, beyond just the fact of the size of the group that factor into why a group may need to be detained, including if members of a group have health issues or distrust of Government officials due to circumstances from their home countries, or if a mass arrival were to occur during the Christmas period, where many on the refugee bar may be on holiday or otherwise unavailable. A scaled system based on size doesn\u2019t always account for all of these factors. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000767\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003EI want to briefly touch on the security environment in which New Zealand operates, and, in particular, how this relates to the bill. We live in an increasingly disrupted and contested world. As was highlighted recently in the recently released national security strategy, New Zealand\u2019s geographic isolation is becoming less of a factor for bad actors. Critically, this includes people smugglers and transnational organised criminal elements\u2014groups that would be involved in organising ventures to New Zealand. These transnational criminal elements attempt to subvert the international rules-based system in which New Zealand operates and which we\u2019ve always supported. These are not ghosts or phantoms; these are real threats that we know for a fact have attempted to reach New Zealand and we need to be prepared.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000768\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022275c91f8-c6b8-42fd-b3ab-d8fc000dd41f\u0022\u003EWe also know that if a mass arrival were to occur, the stress it would place on our immigration and court systems and the challenges that it would bring would be immediate and severe. It is the responsible thing to do to ensure that we have a plan in place, that where there are deficiencies in that plan they are identified, and that those deficiencies be rectified. This piece of legislation is important to protect the human rights of vulnerable people who may arrive in New Zealand as part of a mass arrival and to uphold the integrity of our immigration and court system under what might be an unprecedented strain. Therefore, I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u00222ea90ba72e244cf3ba61ef046399a0ef\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000769\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222ea90ba72e244cf3ba61ef046399a0ef\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that the motion be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u0022d4a3041209904572bca41a9c5d74a182\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000770\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d4a3041209904572bca41a9c5d74a182\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Labour\u2014Te Atat\u016B):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. It\u2019s good to be back here in the Chamber debating this bit of legislation. I want to acknowledge the Minister, the Hon Erica Stanford, for her contribution and make a few final comments as the bill makes its way through to the conclusion of the third reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000771\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThe Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill makes a few tweaks to a system that was put in place, I think, back in 2013, if I remember correctly\u2014legislation that provides arrangements for the kind of processing of members of a mass arrival who might arrive in this country, presumably making it to these shores in a steel-hulled vessel. This bill excited vigorous debate, both at select committee and in the House here, and in the community of asylum seekers, refugees, and human rights advocates, who pay close attention to these issues. Why did it do that? Because locking up asylum seekers is not a good thing. Arbitrary detention of asylum seekers is not consistent with New Zealand\u2019s obligations under international law, and it is right that we should take this very seriously.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000772\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EI note that, when this bill was before the select committee, the National Party opposed it\u2014publicly at select committee and in the House\u2014and I note that the National Party in Government has changed its mind, presumably because it read the security briefings that\u00A0indicate that, actually, a mass arrival, while a very low-probability event, is not a no-probability event. And it is something that we must as a country take seriously and prepare\u00A0for.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000773\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EThere were four safeguards that we discussed in some detail in the earlier stages of the bill\u2019s progression through the House, and those safeguards emerged out of the select committee hearings. They were developed by officials and taken to Cabinet, under the former Labour Government, and agreed in principle. Now they are in the bill, and it was\u00A0Labour\u2019s position at the second reading and at the committee stage, and now at the\u00A0conclusion of this process, that we would only support the bill and vote for it if four\u00A0of those additional safeguards were included in the bill. In our view they are substantive. They make a significant difference. They will have the effect of minimising and limiting the degree to which members of a mass arrival are deprived of their liberty,\u00A0freedom of movement, and they bring judicial oversight to the whole process. And that is a good\u00A0thing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000774\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EI want also to comment briefly on the three extra amendments that I tabled in the committee stage, on behalf of the Labour Party, that the Minister referred to, and I regret, actually, that the Government has chosen not to support these amendments. The first one would have been a commitment in the legislation not to separate families. I take the Minister\u2019s point that there may be some particular circumstances where it would be very difficult not to, but I believe, actually, it would have been a pretty easy drafting fix to provide some space for those kinds of exceptional scenarios.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000775\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EI feel worse, actually, about the question of the independent monitor. It is true that, for example, the legislative mandate of the Ombudsman gives that office the job of monitoring the treatment conditions of people in prison, and so on. But the fact that the Ombudsman does do that work and could do it in this scenario doesn\u2019t mean it will. The Ombudsman is a completely independent Officer of Parliament and cannot be told what to do by the Government of the day. The fact that the International Committee of the Red Cross, and their New Zealand representative, the New Zealand Red Cross, routinely do this work of monitoring treatment conditions and conditions of detention internationally, including within immigration systems\u2014the fact that they do that and are international experts at it and could do it\u2014doesn\u2019t mean they will. There\u2019s no obligation to do it. Previous Governments did not have independent monitors of asylum seekers who were imprisoned while they were waiting for their cases to be heard. I\u2019m not aware that any independent organisations monitored their treatment of conditions. So I regret, Minister, that that second amendment wasn\u2019t taken up, and I honestly think it\u2019s a lost opportunity.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000776\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EIn terms of the amendment around the scaling of the amount of time allowed while a warrant of commitment is being sought, linking the number of persons in a mass arrival to the number of days allowed for that warrant of commitment application to be processed, the Minister\u2019s argument against that was that there may be other factors, like the health of the mass arrivals group, or if it took place at Christmas and therefore members of the refugee bar weren\u2019t available to help. I honestly don\u2019t think those are substantive objections. The calibration of the time allowed per number of people in the mass arrival, I think, could easily have been tweaked to allow sufficient flexibility. So I regret that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000777\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003EI want to finish with a point that I actually did make at the committee stage, and that is that the reason why we should be going the extra mile to put safeguards and judicial oversight and checks and guard rails in this process is that, left to its own devices, the bureaucracy won\u2019t always pay attention to those things. I remind the House again that for many, many years Immigration New Zealand was jailing asylum seekers\u2014not big numbers of them but nevertheless jailing asylum seekers\u2014while their claims were being assessed. There are documented cases of those asylum seekers suffering terrible trauma and abuse in our prison system. That was an egregious breach of New Zealand\u2019s obligations under international law, and Victoria Casey KC said as much in her report that our Government commissioned that led to a change in the policy\u2014that asylum seekers will not be held in Corrections facilities or Police facilities and there are extra safeguards in place to make sure that doesn\u2019t happen again unless there are particular security or risk-to-the-public issues.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000778\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003ESo that should be a cautionary tale for our system, and when we are creating a situation where asylum seekers who are convention refugees entitled to exactly the same protections and treatment as quota refugees\u2014when we are putting in place arrangements for them to be detained for periods of time, we should be going the extra mile in terms of putting in extra safeguards. We are willing to support this bill and vote for it now at the third reading on the basis of those four safeguards going in. But I do regret that the three amendments that we put up at the committee stage weren\u2019t supported. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022 data-id=\u00224f8bda0c9d1a42caa4e95e8487483d44\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000779\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224f8bda0c9d1a42caa4e95e8487483d44\u0022\u003ERICARDO MEN\u00C9NDEZ MARCH (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Of course it would be Labour and National politicians joining forces to create greater powers to detain asylum seekers arriving by boat. Let\u2019s make it clear: for all the talk and pandering about how this is human rights - enhancing, no credible human rights organisation has actually told politicians that they want this bill to go through. This includes the Asylum Seekers Support Trust, Amnesty International, Community Law, the NZ Council for Civil Liberties, the Red Cross, World Vision, Refugee Family Reunification Trust, the Refugee Council of New Zealand, and the Office of Human Rights Proceedings, as well as the Human Rights Commission and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000780\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003ELook, there is a small risk that there may be a mass arrival incident\u2014which in and of itself is political language. We\u2019ve chosen to call people escaping some of the most harrowing experiences that one can ever imagine, such as genocide and war and arriving by sea, \u201Cmass arrivals\u201D. But none of these organisations woke up and said, \u201COh, look, there\u2019s some security briefings that, perhaps, talk about the real risk of this happening. Let\u2019s not resource a judiciary. Let\u2019s not adequately resource the groups that work at the front lines with refugees and asylum seekers. Let\u2019s instead create detention regimes that, as those organisations have said and many experts have spoken about, will create a rights-diminishing regime that will also create a two-tiered treatment for asylum seekers.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000781\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003ESo it\u2019s really important that we make it clear that creating these detention provisions in the bill is a political choice; it does not need to happen. It does not need to happen to guarantee that asylum seekers and refugees are treated with dignity. It does not need to happen to ensure that everyone in our communities remain safe. This is a political choice that was brought about by the legacy parties. Many of those politicians who\u2019ve spoken throughout the debate have made a career, past and present, by scapegoating migrant and refugee communities in subtle or more overt ways.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000782\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EThe organisations who work at the front lines were constructive. They tried to take a harm minimisation approach by working constructively with members of the Opposition and the Minister of Immigration to plead for amendments and greater safeguards, but none of the organisations actually said the safeguards would create a decent enough regime. They realised that\u2014because the two legacy parties have teamed up to diminish the rights of asylum seekers\u2014they have to galvanise to increase those protections. The Green Party worked alongside some of these members of the community\u2014who intimately know the experiences of refugees and asylum seekers\u2014to better protect the rights of children, to ensure that disabled people would be treated with respect and dignity and that they would not be detained, particularly when detention would exacerbate their health conditions. We\u2019ve all supported amendments around greater supporting, and we would limit the reasons for detention to only managing security risks.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000783\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EThe reality is that the Government members are not interested in actually upholding the rights of asylum seekers or refugees. They want to pander to imported ideas from countries like the UK and other parts of the world that treat asylum seekers as a risk, as opposed to recognising the right to seek asylum and treating people with the respect and dignity that they deserve.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000784\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EThroughout the debate, we\u2019ve heard these soft reassurances around the rights of children, and we\u2019ve been told to just trust that because something is in the immigration operational manual, it\u2019s good enough. But the reality is that all these protections that exist in the immigration manual are easily subject to change. All it would take is a Minister like Shane Jones having the reins of the immigration powers. If we were to take anything from his contributions and interjections in the debate\u2014calling it continuously \u201Cboring\u201D and making fun of the debate rather than taking it seriously\u2014what\u2019s to say that he would not simply change the operational manual. If the Minister and the Government were serious about protecting the rights of children, they would have put it in the legislation, not left it in pieces of paper that are subject to change. If the pandemic showed us anything, it\u2019s how quickly the operational manual can change. So if the Government was serious about better protecting the rights of children\u2014in the bill that is already undermining the rights of asylum seekers\u2014these could have been put in legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000785\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EBut all that this showed was a Government that does not take the rights of asylum seekers seriously and is more concerned around jumping in with the Labour Party\u2014who\u00A0introduced this bill and who now are claiming that they have all these concerns despite having introduced the bill with little to no consultation with the refugee and asylum seeker sector. I think this speaks more to what was a political tool to scapegoat our communities and not actually take into account the very serious concerns that human rights organisations have.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000786\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EThe answer to the issue of arrivals coming in, as I said before, would have been to resource our community centres. I particularly want to shout out to the workers in the M\u0101ngere Refugee Resettlement Centre, because that has been spoken to as a centre that is expected to take up the burden of looking after people who would be arriving in the provisions that we\u2019re seeing in this legislation. The workers that I know who work with people in the M\u0101ngere resettlement centre are overworked, they\u2019re often tired, and they\u2019re caught trying to deal with people who\u2019ve undergone massive trauma and stresses. So to assume that, without additional resources, they\u2019ll be ready to deal with a large group of people arriving by sea\u2014who will have complex needs, who will have faced trauma, and who may have health conditions\u2014is, frankly, absurd. Without Budget commitments to adequately resource resettlement centres, all that we will be doing is putting those organisations at risk of being overwhelmed, rather than being supportive.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000787\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EThe Minister talked about managed isolation and quarantine staff facilities and hotels as areas that could be used, but, again, there\u2019s been very little to no consideration to the wellbeing of children and disabled people within those facilities. In fact, the Minister basically told us that we should just accept that any detention facility is better than being in the sea. I think people deserve far better than being told that they\u2019re lucky to not be stranded at sea and that instead they\u2019re going to be detained. Because, actually, what we are saying to people is that we don\u2019t care if you\u2019ve been escaping a genocide or a war, that, actually, the answer to those experiences is detention while we process your asylum seeker application. The truth is that that detention could worsen people\u2019s trauma, it could worsen people\u2019s health. We\u2019ve seen no commitments from the Minister around that additional resourcing that will be needed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000788\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s really important that parties from both sides\u2014National and Labour\u2014actually don\u2019t just pay lip service to the reports that we have had, including the Casey report. I think the Government could have\u2014and this report was spoken about by a Labour MP\u2014taken all of the recommendations, taken them in full, before even exploring this bill. Actually, a lot of what is in the Casey report would also create a fit for purpose system to deal with arrivals by sea of people who are often escaping some of the most unimaginable things that one could ever, ever, ever imagine.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000789\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003ESo the Green Party is proud to have been the only party to consistently speak against this bill, to consistently be on the side of human rights organisations and advocates. Despite what New Zealand First MPs may call \u201Cboring\u201D, we simply call it taking the lead from the experts. I would say most politicians here are not experts on issues affecting our refugee communities\u2014I would say most of us are not; very few MPs themselves come from those backgrounds. And therefore we have to lean on those experts, who are aware that there may be a risk of people arriving by sea escaping war and genocide\u2014because, surprise, greater conflicts around the world and climate change are exacerbating those same things. But the answer, which those human rights organisations have, is to resource the judiciary, resource the resettlement centres, not create a rights diminishing bill, and certainly not disguise the detaining of asylum seekers as caring for human rights. This is not what this bill is about. This is not a bill about caring about asylum seekers; this is taking the easy, politically expedient route, which is to create new detention mechanisms to diminish the rights of asylum seekers. The Green Party won\u2019t be supporting this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022 data-id=\u002296e92b35fc7a47b4bfd166475202495f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000790\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002296e92b35fc7a47b4bfd166475202495f\u0022\u003EDr PARMJEET PARMAR (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. I\u2019m taking this call on behalf of ACT in support of the third reading of the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill. I want to acknowledge all the changes that have been made to this bill in the committee of the whole House, and I want to thank all the members who contributed, and as this is the final reading, I, again, want to acknowledge the work that was done by the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee and everybody who contributed to make this bill, or bring this bill, in the form that it is now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000791\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003EAs we know, this bill is to change the Immigration Act 2009. It is to extend that time period that is there to process the applications for warrant of commitment from four days\u00A0to seven days and then giving the authority to judges to extend that to 28 days if really\u00A0needed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000792\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003ENow, it was very clear in the committee of the whole House that members wanted to see that the time line is as minimal as possible. So that change, I want to acknowledge that. If this kind of incident happens in New Zealand, mass arrival happens, the maximum numbers of days will be utilised, but this is to make sure that there is enough time for processing of those applications for the warrant of commitment. And this is to include the natural justice component for people who arrive, if it happens here in New Zealand. So I think allowing this extra time actually is a really good thing, because it will help us ensure that these people will have fair representation and we uphold our international obligations as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000793\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003ENow, in this regard, we also want to take into consideration the capacity that we have at the moment. And we know that the capacity that we have at the moment is not going to be sufficient if we had any incident of mass arrival, especially if hundreds of people arrive here in New Zealand. We have limited numbers of lawyers who specialise in this field, and we want to see that enough time is given to these people, because the current legislation says it\u2019s four days, and four days may not be enough time for hundreds of people to be represented in a fair manner. And also when we talk about the capacity, it\u2019s important to note that\u2014in terms of the resources that the Green MP talked about just now\u2014this is also part of making sure that the resources are available so that these people can be fairly dealt with. \u201CResources\u201D doesn\u2019t mean only buildings but \u201Cresources\u201D also means that those who are doing other things, important things, to keep our borders secure are not diverted to this job because all of a sudden we have this mass arrival.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000794\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003EAnd this will have impact at multiple levels. If I want to just highlight two, one is, of course, how these mass arrivals are dealt with if we don\u2019t have enough capacity and enough resources to give them a fair representation. The second level is about New Zealanders, because if something of this sort happens, it can make New Zealanders quite anxious if they see that the New Zealand Government, the Government of the day, is not prepared to handle that mass arrival. So this is also to give that signal that if anything of this sort happens, then, yes, we can handle it, because there will be enough time allowed for the resources to be made available to these people and be handled, and also our court systems can be managed. So it\u2019s not just immigration; it\u2019s also our court systems. And we have to also keep in mind our border security, and we don\u2019t want to divert all the staff to just deal with this if something of this sort happens.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000795\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003ENow, we know that our geographic location, of course, we always say, is good in some circumstances and not good in some circumstances. And, in this case, so far, our geographic location has been beneficial to us. But we cannot take it for granted. Things can happen. As we know, in the last few years, we have seen the numbers of those seeking asylum, around the world, increasing. So anything can happen. And these kind of things, when they happen, don\u2019t happen with much warning. So this bill is about ensuring that we are prepared for anything if something of this sort happens.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000796\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003ENow, I also want to, in this third reading speech, give the message that this bill is not about saying that New Zealanders are ready to welcome mass arrivals with open arms. That is not the message we want to give, but I want to acknowledge that people flee their country for many, many reasons. It could be political unrest, it could be a prosecution or other reasons, but sometimes people leave their home country because of economic reasons. And to those people, I would say don\u2019t fall in the traps of human traffickers, because human traffickers usually exploit vulnerable people. They will charge big sums of money and put people on these boats without caring about their wellbeing or even survival on that boat. And they are made big promises that they will arrive at the port and, then, all they have to do is seek asylum and they will be totally fine. So, to those people, I would like to give this message: do not fall in the traps of human traffickers, because New Zealand takes human trafficking very, very seriously. It is a crime, and there are good provisions in our immigration system, if you are looking for economic opportunities, to come to New Zealand through various visas that we have.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000797\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003ENow, for any mass arrival, of course they need to be processed individually, individual by individual, to see what their circumstances are. And talking about improving or increasing the capacity that we have at the moment\u2014the Green MP talked about the M\u0101ngere refugee centre\u2014it has been clarified in this bill that when we talk about \u201Cdetention\u201D in this bill, it doesn\u2019t mean a prison. So detention is basically going to be a place where they will be kept. It will be not as restrictive as one would imagine because of the term that has been used, and this was one of the concerns that came up during the select committee process as well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000798\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002258eae615-ef83-4df5-bace-6749bdd312a8\u0022\u003ESo this has been already addressed. Time line has already been addressed, and making sure that we uphold our international obligations in regards to human rights has been also clarified in the committee of the whole House. So the form of the bill that we have in front of us, actually, is quite a balanced way of going forward. Of course, we have to identify that there is a risk. This can happen, and as I said before, it can happen without any warning. We need to be prepared, and this bill is to make sure that New Zealand is prepared to handle these arrivals and also to give assurance to New Zealanders that if something of this sort happens, then we can handle it. But, on the other hand, I want to again emphasise on this that this is not to send any signal that New Zealand is, basically, willing to welcome mass arrivals with open arms if they are just being exploited by some human traffickers. So we need to be really careful here. So the ACT Party supports this bill, and we look forward to seeing it going through. Thank you.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022 data-id=\u002252d5cc08745049cb8e8ee07a77cbc4e7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000799\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002252d5cc08745049cb8e8ee07a77cbc4e7\u0022\u003ETANYA UNKOVICH (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. I rise on behalf of New Zealand First in support of the third reading of the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill. Irregular maritime arrivals present a complex challenge to New Zealand\u2019s immigration system, demanding a delicate balance between humanitarian obligations and national security imperatives. As a nation, we must ensure that our borders remain secure whilst upholding our commitment to treating migrants with dignity and respect. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000800\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003EThis bill aims to amend the Immigration Act 2009 to enable New Zealand to manage irregular maritime arrivals in an orderly and safe manner while protecting the rights of all who are involved. It has been noted by many that the risk of a mass arrival reaching New Zealand is actually low. However, while the risk is low, it is not zero. It is possible, hence the need to be prepared, and in the introduction of this bill we are showing that New Zealand is now taking the necessary steps to be prepared. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000801\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003EThe sad reality is that there are victims of exploitation. The sad reality is that there are people out there who are willing to manipulate, and this is something that they choose to do to people who are so vulnerable in our community. This bill is necessary to ensure that there are sufficient protections in place for those who are vulnerable. Now, this bill is a practical and logical step in the right direction, and it is preparing us and it\u2019s also sending a message to the world that we are prepared and would be prepared. And we are demonstrating that we are taking action.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000802\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003ENow, I won\u2019t go through all of the amendments. There are a number of amendments, but I will mention a few. One is to extend the time for the District Court to consider a mass arrival\u2014the warrants. And this will ensure a fair legal process and it will respect the natural justice principle. Now, this bill also clarifies entry requirements for members of mass arrival groups, and it also ensures the detention of such individuals is limited and consistent with refugee rights.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000803\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003EAt the heart of New Zealand First\u2019s approach lies a steadfast commitment to protecting New Zealand\u2019s sovereignty and ensuring the safety and wellbeing of its citizens. We believe in a robust immigration system that not only safeguards our borders but also reflects our values of fairness and compassion. By supporting this bill, New Zealand First recognises the importance of striking a balance between our humanitarian obligations and the need to safeguard our nation\u2019s security. By working collaboratively to enact this meaningful immigration reform, we can ensure that New Zealand not only remains safe but also a welcoming and a prosperous nation for all of our residents.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000804\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003EAs already mentioned in previous readings by various members, detention in the bill does not equate to imprisonment but refers to safe accommodation options like the M\u0101ngere Refugee Resettlement Centre that has already been mentioned this evening. Now, it was emphasised that the bill aims to protect both national security and the human rights of migrants, ensuring that they receive the necessary support and care upon their arrival, which in many cases was very stressful.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000805\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022b21beb09-9d9b-4414-9bb1-ddba249459d5\u0022\u003ENew Zealand First has a commitment to uphold the principles of fairness and due process. Hence, on behalf of New Zealand First, I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022 data-id=\u002298135e4ee1284eab8d9199610483dab5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000806\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002298135e4ee1284eab8d9199610483dab5\u0022\u003EDr LAWRENCE XU-NAN (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. Let\u2019s be clear: this bill is a technical solution on a hypothetical scenario while masking a much larger issue\u2014an underlying issue\u2014of chronic court underfunding.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000807\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003EAs we have heard before, we could mask things by saying that we are here to uphold the refugees\u2019 human rights; we are here to reaffirm our commitment under the convention relating to the status of refugees and under the relevant international obligations. However, as we have heard before from my colleague, no refugee organisations who actively work with refugees on a daily basis have asked for this and have wanted this.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000808\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003ESo what does it mean for this particular bill? When we were at the committee of the whole House stage, we explored various options around this bill. For us, as the Greens, we put up four Amendment Papers\u2014none of which were accepted but they were done in a way to address some of the issues that we see with this particular bill as it stands today in the third reading.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000809\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003ESome of them we have already talked about around the commitments that the Government have, or the commitment in the event that something does happen, and I\u00A0think it has been mentioned multiple times that this is a hypothetical situation with a very low chance of actually occurring, in which case, at the committee stage, when we asked about additional and alternative hypothetical situations where our facilities\u2014the facilities that people have talked about that uphold the rights of these refugees\u2014are full due to other events such as another pandemic or other major events happening in the city at the time, no other commitments were able to be made that these facilities are appropriate for, to name a few, children and also disabled wh\u0101nau. This is something that they were not able to make a commitment on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000810\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003EIn terms of the bill, there are additional specificities that I would like to bring up because you will hear people talking about 28 days\u2014that\u2019s the maximum amount of time that the people coming here will be held in detention centres. But that is on the basis of the application being made, which would have already taken 96 hours\u2014i.e., four days. So let\u2019s be clear that what we\u2019re looking at here is a maximum of over a month, of 32 days, as being the absolute maximum. Also, there has been no indication or suggestion as to where people will be housed in those first 96 hours because the commitment made in terms of the suitability of the detention centre is only made when a judge makes a ruling.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000811\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003EThe other level of specificity I would like to address is this notion that the reason we\u2019re doing this is because of the fact that the District Court does not have the capacity for this. However, in clause\u00A09, an amendment to section 317AB on \u201CLimited period for decision on mass arrival warrant\u201D, we are seeing that the judge will, in fact, need to make decisions twice and have the doubling handling effect of saying \u201Cwithin the seven days [it] was made\u201D\u2014that it cannot be made within seven days and have to make an alternative ruling much, much later\u2014and there\u2019s been no modelling on the resources it will require for District Court to do this.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000812\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223cc9806d-f7ef-4e23-a218-442f20bf8591\u0022\u003ESo, in short, this bill has a lot of loopholes. No one asked for this. It\u2019s a hypothetical situation. It doesn\u2019t gain anything other than the fact it violates the rights of these refugees who are arriving in Aotearoa in this situation. So the Green Party will not be supporting this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022 data-id=\u00222cbbf3da39e04a928edfcdea3ac22af3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000813\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222cbbf3da39e04a928edfcdea3ac22af3\u0022\u003EKATIE NIMON (National\u2014Napier):\u003C/span\u003E I\u2019m pleased to be speaking on the third reading of the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill. This is a bill we\u2019ve discussed and debated at length over the last wee while. I think that the greatest point that has been made across all of these debates is that while it is a low probability, it is high risk, and it\u2019s something that we need to prepare for. So we\u2019ve heard from members opposite about what they see as not being necessary or what shouldn\u2019t be done. Ultimately, if we don\u2019t address this and something does happen, we are not preparing our system to be able to prepare for it, and that is what is most fundamental here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000814\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022\u003ESo the member opposite said that this is hypothetical. What I worry about is if we don\u2019t address this and the hypothetical becomes reality, what then? Imagine people coming to New Zealand, as it says in the bill, on one or more craft\u2014you know, a vessel that comes to New Zealand via sea\u2014let\u2019s just say, and arriving in the Far North, Grant McCallum\u2019s electorate. This is hypothetically, let\u2019s just say, the most likely place for a craft to arrive. Now, we\u2019re expecting the District Court to be preparing and providing for these people. Now, this is 30 people or more, and we were, unless we change this bill, expecting this all to be dealt with within four days. It is absolutely impossible.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000815\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022\u003ENow, what we are doing with this bill is providing the people that inevitably come to New Zealand in a state of distress\u2014we have no way of knowing in what way they are going to arrive, how many, or where. We need to prepare for the situation that may occur, and that is what we are doing in this bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000816\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022\u003ESo let\u2019s just say they arrive in the northern beaches of the northernmost point of the North Island. How does our District Court system work with that? We have only 40\u00A0qualified lawyers for this particular situation in the whole country. Our court system has to be able to be prepared to work with these people. We need somewhere for them to be housed, looked after, health checks, identification\u2014all of the processes that that come in place. We can\u2019t assume that they come in the best of health. There is triaging that might need to occur. All of these things need to come into account. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000817\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022\u003EI remind members opposite that have been so opposed to this bill that this is not a target of time; this is an allowance of time that enables us to do the right thing for these people that come into New Zealand when and if they do arrive. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000818\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022\u003ESo what we can\u2019t assume with the escalating situations around the world is that this isn\u2019t more and more inevitable. We talk every day about New Zealand being the perceived safe haven in the South Pacific. We talk all the time about how lucky we are to be in the bottom corner of the world, but, actually, that poses a great, I suppose, attraction to a lot of people, and that is something we need to be prepared for. If we\u2019re putting ourselves under pressure where we do wrong by these people when they come to New Zealand, that is a situation we will all regret if we don\u2019t do something about it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000819\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022\u003ESo to allow ourselves 96 hours from initial arrival\u2014or arrest and detention; let\u2019s just use the terminology\u2014to then be able to determine the application and go through the process, following 28 days after that to go through the full process, this is giving us the space to be able to do the right thing by these people. It\u2019s not to say, \u201COh, we don\u2019t have to do anything for another 28 days.\u201D That is not the point. We are giving our system the space and the options to do this properly, to give people that come into New Zealand under distressing circumstances\u2014very much likely with trauma; that has been discussed on all sides of the House\u2014the process that they deserve, and, of course, at the same time, the treatment that they need, which is very likely in this circumstance.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000820\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022\u003EI think that we need to be very aware that we can\u2019t assume that they come to New Zealand in a manageable size of 30; it could be 500. That is something that we have to be prepared for. What we don\u2019t want to see is that in, say, two or three years\u2019 time when the inevitable does happen, we haven\u2019t made this change, and, as a result, we are scrambling to make this work and we are making the wrong decisions, we are making fast decisions, we\u2019re making rushed decisions, or we put people in further distress as a result.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000821\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002230f9e8fe-eafb-4967-8d4d-306525ae2340\u0022\u003EI think it\u2019s really important to home in on the fact that when I mentioned the 40 lawyers qualified to represent a mass arrival group, this is a direct result of the fact that this is not a situation we currently deal with. So every single thing in this bill that\u2019s being proposed to amend the current law is not to address a situation we\u2019re already dealing with but is something that may happen. So to be talking about the fact that this is hypothetical\u2014absolutely, this is hypothetical, but this bill aims to address the hypothetical until it becomes a reality. What we cannot be doing is sitting here in urgency on the day that it happens, trying to rush through law so that we can better support the people that arrive in New Zealand. That is exactly what it is here that we need to be doing in preparation for potentially the inevitable\u2014the low probability but high-risk event. We need to be making these changes that do the best by people that do end up coming to New Zealand under distressing circumstances. So, with that, I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a503e324-3a0b-4efd-bf44-ec6740ec9a62\u0022 data-id=\u002247a134a7ce0a4bff8902c0ee81af05d1\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000822\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a503e324-3a0b-4efd-bf44-ec6740ec9a62\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002247a134a7ce0a4bff8902c0ee81af05d1\u0022\u003ECAMILLA BELICH (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. It\u2019s a slightly unusual situation today with this bill because often when we\u2019re debating bills, they\u2019re bills that we want to see enacted because we think the enactment of the law will improve the legislative situation in New Zealand. But I think we\u2019re all agreed across the House that this bill is one that we would all like to see never have to happen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000823\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a503e324-3a0b-4efd-bf44-ec6740ec9a62\u0022\u003EWe don\u2019t want to see people smugglers coming to New Zealand, putting vulnerable people in harm\u2019s way, and we certainly don\u2019t want to see them put through further distress. But, unfortunately, although\u2014as many members have reflected on in this particular case\u2014this is a situation that hasn\u2019t occurred, there is not a zero risk of it occurring. So that is why this bill is in front of us.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000824\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a503e324-3a0b-4efd-bf44-ec6740ec9a62\u0022\u003EI think we can all reflect on the current instability globally at the moment\u2014due to conflict, due to climate change\u2014that may result in more mass arrivals, not just in New Zealand but in other countries where we do know they are grappling with these issues. I know that this is a controversial piece of legislation and I want to acknowledge that. I think it\u2019s really good that we have a democracy where potential pieces of legislation which do come across important human rights issues are challenged, and that there are submissions and involvement by civil society and also with parties across the House making sure that when we do place some limits on people\u2019s freedoms, even people who have just arrived in New Zealand, these are balanced and necessary and are not stepping\u00A0too far over lines that they shouldn\u2019t do in relation to human rights, because it is that serious.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000825\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a503e324-3a0b-4efd-bf44-ec6740ec9a62\u0022\u003EWe also face a difficult situation, because of the low probability of this occurring\u2014although not a zero probability\u2014in terms of being able to resource for such a situation. We heard that there are issues in resourcing, I acknowledge those. I think we would all like to see more resourcing in our courts. We would all like to see the amazing work at the M\u0101ngere Refugee Settlement Centre be supported. I know that they do incredible work and I\u2019ve seen that when I visited there. I also think it just provides quite a challenge for us when we don\u2019t know where or when the situation would occur, to be able to\u2014even if we\u2019re in that position to resource it properly, it\u2019ll be very difficult.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000826\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a503e324-3a0b-4efd-bf44-ec6740ec9a62\u0022\u003EI think that there are a number of changes that have been made to this bill which do make it a better bill than when it was first introduced, and I know that that came through some measures that Labour took in Government and also some that have been brought through the House under Erica Stanford as the current Minister. I think those are commendable changes. I will briefly touch on them: making sure that someone is detained for the least amount of time, making sure that the detention meets the obligations under the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990, making sure that it meets New Zealand\u2019s obligations under the 1951 Refugee Convention, making sure that there\u2019s a report to the court at least weekly, making sure that the judge has overview of the location, and also, very importantly, making sure that a prison or a police station is not used as a form of detention. This is absolutely not about punishing people who might arrive due to the actions of people smugglers; it is about making sure that they\u2019re treated with dignity and respect if they do arrive.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000827\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a503e324-3a0b-4efd-bf44-ec6740ec9a62\u0022\u003EI am disappointed that the amendments put forward by my colleague Phil Twyford weren\u2019t accepted. I think those are amiable and would have further improved this bill, ensuring that families be not separated. We\u2019ve seen that overseas\u2014I don\u2019t think that is acceptable. Also, inserting a third-party organisation to monitor terms and conditions. And also limiting\u2014I think his final one was limiting the amounts of time for detention based on the size of the group. I think those would have further improved this bill, and I would look to Governments on both sides of the House, when they are in the position to make changes, to consider those further changes. I think if we did have a mass arrival, we should revisit this piece of legislation and make sure it is fit for purpose.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000828\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a503e324-3a0b-4efd-bf44-ec6740ec9a62\u0022\u003ESo I think we all take this very seriously, and I take on board the criticisms of this. We will be supporting this bill, but would recommend that it\u2019s monitored very closely\u2014especially in the situation, which I hope never occurs, that it may be utilised.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022 data-id=\u0022c1de613b703848e2820b5f4caba478d6\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000829\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c1de613b703848e2820b5f4caba478d6\u0022\u003ECARL BATES (National\u2014Whanganui):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. It\u2019s my pleasure to rise this evening and speak in this third reading of the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill. I just want to acknowledge the work of the Minister of Immigration in getting this through the House, something that wasn\u2019t able to be achieved under the previous Government. We\u2019re now getting it delivered and getting this risk management framework, essentially, in place, to ensure that in the circumstance that we have the occurrence of a mass arrival, we have a framework and a structure to deal with it. Essentially, that\u2019s what this bill is about.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000830\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EThere\u2019s been a lot of talk this evening about taking it seriously. I think it\u2019s important that everyone who\u2019s watching this debate this evening\u2014and watched the first and second readings and the committee of the whole House stage\u2014appreciates how seriously the Government and the members of the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee that would have been responsible for this on the Government\u2019s side are here this evening. We are engaged in making sure that we get this framework in place. As part of that process, there have been four amendments that have been brought to the House and passed by the\u00A0committee, to date, under the Minister\u2019s leadership. They are important to making sure that we have the right framework in place, and the Minister spoke to those earlier this evening.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000831\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003ELet\u2019s look at what this framework is, essentially, about. Currently, should there be a mass arrival event, there\u2019d be 96 hours in which the legal profession would have the ability to come together and support those asylum seekers, to do the necessary processes in order for their applications to go in and their status to be determined. And it\u2019s simply not practical. It\u2019s not practical, because we\u2019re talking about people and their families\u2014men, women, and children who have travelled across the seas in boats that are probably unlikely to be in any good shape for that journey. They are highly likely to be malnourished, highly likely to have significant mental health challenges or social challenges from that crossing, and upon arrival on our shores they will need those challenges supported\u2014before we even start talking about the legal process that they\u2019ll be going through.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000832\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EAlong with that, we\u2019re talking about whether or not there are actually enough lawyers in place to be able to support that mass arrival process in the first place, and the reality is there simply aren\u2019t. There\u2019s about 40 lawyers, as I understand it, across the nation, who would have the ability to be mobilised to support an event like this. Should it occur, for example, on a Friday night, that they land at Ninety Mile Beach\u2014as was suggested earlier\u00A0this evening by my colleague the MP for Napier, Katie Nimon\u2014in the grand electorate of my colleague the MP for Northland, that would take a couple of days out of that 96\u00A0hours before the lawyers had even got the opportunity to start working. It\u00A0simply isn\u2019t practical.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000833\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EI don\u2019t want to see this happen. None of us want to see this happen. It\u2019s unbelievable, actually, that our colleagues across the House\u2014and I\u2019m not speaking about my Labour colleagues, but some of the others\u2014have made suggestions that we actually want this to happen, or the sort of attitude that we\u2019re not taking this seriously. I tell you what I find extremely difficult to take seriously: this idea that we should somehow have a whole lot of lawyers on standby, a whole lot of places on standby, ready to support this should it occur, so that it can happen in 96 hours. At the same time, those same members opposite are talking about how this is unlikely to happen in the first place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000834\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s a little bit like Budget week\u2019s come early, because it seems to me that those members opposite think that there\u2019s a bottomless pit of money that could be spent on hiring a whole lot of asylum seeker lawyers, training them up, and having them ready to support an event that is highly\u2014or not highly but certainly unlikely, has a low probability of happening; not something that we want to happen but something that we need to make sure there\u2019s a framework in place for. The idea that we should just resource them, that we should just appropriate it, I just can\u2019t take seriously. It is simply nonsensical to suggest that as a Government we should be doing that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000835\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EThere is a reason why there are a small number of lawyers in this country that would have the ability to support a mass arrival, a group, should it arrive on our coastline, and that\u2019s because it\u2019s unlikely. There\u2019s not a huge amount of this work. If we had to be in a situation that we didn\u2019t pass this legislation, that we didn\u2019t put in a framework that enables us to manage this risk, however unlikely it is, we\u2019d be in here under urgency trying to pass a piece of legislation that would end up being retrospective, and those same members opposite would have a problem with that. It\u2019s because those members opposite simply do not understand how to make decisions, create practical frameworks, and ensure that we\u2019ve got the sort of legislation in place to support this sort of event, should it happen, and I\u2019m sure we\u2019re going to hear much more of that unnecessary bravado from members opposite in the days to come this week. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u0022816dafdfe9af4ed5bc50320781ae67ce\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000836\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022816dafdfe9af4ed5bc50320781ae67ce\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: This is a split call, and I call the Hon Rachel Brooking.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022 data-id=\u0022f1aa543a4d95477d943909f9863ac381\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000837\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f1aa543a4d95477d943909f9863ac381\u0022\u003EHon RACHEL BROOKING (Labour\u2014Dunedin):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Madam Speaker. It\u2019s useful to be talking about a bill about planning, in a sense, and planning for something that nobody wants to happen, with it being a mass arrival by a craft, which, of course, could be a plane or a boat. We\u2019re very proud of the fact that we can now settle 1,500\u00A0refugees in New Zealand, and we have a very wonderful facility. People work helping refugees in\u00A0Auckland learn about what it is to live in New Zealand, and all the benefits that come with that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000838\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EI\u2019m also happy to be talking about a bill that has been amended in the committee of the whole House stage, and there have been some very useful amendments at that stage. My colleague Camilla Belich touched on many of those. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000839\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003EOne that I\u2019ll just note, in clause 12, is the amendment to section 330, which is \u201CApproval of premises for purpose of immigration detention\u201D. At the moment in the Immigration Act, it says that \u201CThe chief executive may approve any premises for the purpose of detention under this Act.\u201D Then what happened? One of the changes in the committee of the whole House was that it now says, \u201CDespite subsection (1), the chief executive may not approve a police station or prison as a place that may be used to detain 1 or more members of a mass arrival group\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000840\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227535d92-0798-4e04-be80-9e91b53610e2\u0022\u003ESo that\u2019s an important change. Perhaps it should say \u201Cmust not approve\u201D, but it\u2019s clear in the context of the legislation that police stations and prisons are not to be used, and that\u2019s an important change. I commend the bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022 data-id=\u002284c051b0a6d04d13a6b6951fd7c31e50\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000841\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002284c051b0a6d04d13a6b6951fd7c31e50\u0022\u003EMIKE BUTTERICK (National\u2014Wairarapa):\u003C/span\u003E Good evening, Madam Speaker. I previously spoke about what this bill was really about. Firstly, it was about risk and management of it, should a mass arrival occur\u2014that risk that could potentially manifest itself as a threat to our own national security and also the risk that could very well be a reality to those that may arrive. I also talked about due process and the need to have a fair and equitable process in place, and about the need to have a plan to enable timely access to legal advice to allow for fair representation and applications to be considered, and I also spoke about how this Government is practical and sensible enough to change our position. We\u2019d previously held a position of opposition to this bill. However, once we were able to access what was previously considered confidential information, we did change our position and now support this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000842\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003EAlthough there\u2019s a low likelihood of mass arrivals to New Zealand, we\u2019re living in a false paradise to assume that a mass arrival won\u2019t occur. Who are we kidding? You\u2019ve only got to look at what\u2019s happening around the world\u2014the political unrest, the conflicts, the persecution\u2014and you very quickly realise that there is an elevated risk of a mass-arrival event occurring here, and a failure to anticipate and plan for this would be a mistake. A failure to plan would simply be a plan to fail.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000843\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003EThis bill\u2019s not about imprisonment or incarceration, as some members on the other side of the House would have us believe; nor is it about saying that immigrants are dangerous to this country. I\u2019d reiterate the value that immigrants add to our communities and to our economy, with the culture and the values that they bring with them, and I\u2019d acknowledge all that they add\u2014certainly, in the many recent visits I\u2019ve had in the Wairarapa, in the Tararua, in the Hawke\u2019s Bay, with many, many groups. They\u2019ve been nothing short of inspirational, and I\u2019m incredibly privileged to have been welcomed into their families, their lives, and their communities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000844\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003EThis bill is not about scaremongering and misinformation. It\u2019s about one thing only: having sensible, pragmatic legislation that allows us to have a balance\u2014a balance between detaining any mass arrivals while ensuring they also have a right to access legal advice and representation to support their applications.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000845\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003EI spoke previously about allowing extra time. That\u2019s not a negative; it\u2019s common sense. This bill is about protecting those arrivals\u2019 rights, along with ours, and having a right to put forward a case to remain in New Zealand\u2014again, in the unlikely event of a mass arrival. The current time frames are entirely impractical. Security and health-screening checks are likely to need significantly more time to complete, and allowing more time will ensure that judicial decision makers are afforded all the information that they need to make a fair and considered decision which has taken into account every relevant piece of information.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000846\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003ETo finish, I\u2019d like to reiterate that whilst initially, as a party, we didn\u2019t support this amendment bill, we\u2019ve made sure to now expedite this process. As my colleague Carl Bates mentioned before, the previous Government that introduced this bill had the means to pass\u00A0it and had the ability to deliver it into law, but they didn\u2019t. Well, we will deliver it. We are the Government of delivery. We\u2019ll finish the job. We\u2019re back on track. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022 data-id=\u0022204a45a5c8c14dfc8bf5e4fb12dc376e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000847\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022204a45a5c8c14dfc8bf5e4fb12dc376e\u0022\u003EHon JENNY SALESA (Labour\u2014Panmure-\u014Ct\u0101huhu):\u003C/span\u003E Talofa lava. Happy Samoan Language Week. Manuia le V\u0101iaso o le Gagana Samoa. I appreciate this opportunity to debate the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill. This bill came through the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee. We received over 300 submissions. Most of them were either in opposition or in strong opposition against this bill. Only four were in support. I would like to acknowledge the Minister of Immigration, the Hon Erica Stanford, for taking on board a lot of the concerns that so many of the submitters made during the select committee process, and making quite a number of changes to safeguard this bill and to ensure that this amendment bill that we have before us is much improved.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000848\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003EPeople seeking asylum, and refugees, who come to Aotearoa New Zealand, whether they come by boats or whether they come by plane, they have certain protections under the 1951 Refugee Convention as well as the 1967 Protocol relating to the Status of Refugees.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000849\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003EThe 1951 Refugee Convention recognises that, by virtue of fleeing persecution often in urgent and dire circumstances, people seeking a safe haven may be forced to enter a country without the required documentation, and without the legal authorisation that they often need before entering another country. But we\u2019ve been concerned about what happens when refugees and asylum seekers come to our country, which is why a few years ago we commissioned a review on this issue.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000850\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003EThis review was completed by Victoria Casey KC, and she made several recommendations to improve the asylum and refugee processes, and to ensure that they are aligned with both New Zealand\u2019s legal standards as well as our international obligations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000851\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003EI won\u2019t go through all of the recommendations that she made, but I would just like to highlight a few. One of the recommendations that Victoria Casey KC made is, first, that detention should only be used as an exceptional measure of last resort. Detention must be individually justified, and regularly reviewed in order to ensure that it remains necessary.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000852\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003EI believe that adding additional safeguards to the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill, especially in the complex and often challenging landscape that immigration deals with\u2014we\u2019ve heard from many of the speakers at the first reading, second reading, and third reading, that the likelihood of a boat arriving in the shores of Aotearoa New Zealand is actually very low. However, we believe that it\u2019s still crucial that if such an event were to occur, we balance the need for national security with our commitment to human rights and to ensuring that we uphold the dignity of all the people that arrive.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000853\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003EOne of the other recommendations that Victoria Casey KC made is that we should protect the family unity and children\u2019s rights. I want to point out that this is also an amendment that my colleague the Hon Phil Twyford tried to make, but, unfortunately, it didn\u2019t go through.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000854\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003EVictoria Casey recommended that detention practices should prioritise keeping families together, and ensure that the rights of our children are fully upheld. This includes providing appropriate facilities and support services for the children and families to minimise the impact of detention on their wellbeing. We should ensure that family members are kept together, especially if they are detained. We know that the separation of families, particularly parents and children, can have devastating emotional and psychological impacts. We\u2019re concerned at the fact that this bill actually does not ensure\u00A0that families will be kept together. Children should not be subjected to the same\u00A0conditions, we believe, as adults in detention. Their rights to education, to recreation, and\u00A0to psychological support must be prioritised. Ensuring that our children\u2019s\u00A0rights are\u00A0upheld in detention not only complies with our obligations against international conventions but it also, I believe, reflects on our compassion and our humanity as a society.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000855\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d14b1afe-2069-41e4-96fa-c8dc81a991a4\u0022\u003EIt is unfortunate that the extra safeguards did not go through, but I concur with my colleague Camilla Belich that if indeed the event of a mass arrival is to occur sometime in the future, hopefully we can revisit these issues. Malo le soifua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022 data-id=\u00221446b03b01094f9295490fb5ea0f1a1d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000856\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221446b03b01094f9295490fb5ea0f1a1d\u0022\u003EGRANT McCALLUM (National\u2014Northland):\u003C/span\u003E It\u2019s a great privilege to rise to make the final contribution to this very important debate on the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill in its third reading. We\u2019ve heard some contributions tonight where members have highlighted that they\u2019ve thought that it\u2019s unlikely to happen, and, yes, it is unlikely. But it\u2019s really important that we are ready for that situation where desperate people\u2014and we\u2019ve only got to look around the world today\u2014are in situations where they just feel they\u2019ve got nothing to lose but to try and get in a rust bucket of some description and head towards a place like New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000857\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022\u003EWe need to be ready for them, because they could turn up, and it\u2019s highly likely if they do manage to come across the seas, as our forebears did in various types of boats in the past, and if they manage to come to this country, they could easily end up in a place like Ninety Mile Beach, which has been mentioned before, in the great area of Northland. Then these people would be here, and we\u2019d have to look after them and make them feel welcome and treat them appropriately.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000858\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s really important to remember that what we\u2019re trying to do when they come here is to make sure that we can actually deal with them, and so the increased time frames that we\u2019ve allowed are really, really important. It just allows the processes to flow through. It\u2019s absolutely vital that we do that, because we don\u2019t want a situation where we\u2019ve got\u00A0people turning up here and we\u2019re not prepared legally to cope with it, because that would just lead to all sorts of problems. That is not the sort of country we want them to come into.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000859\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022\u003ENow, if they turn up here and we haven\u2019t got the legal right to detain them while we process them, we assess their health and their mental health, and we probably feed them, because I suspect they would probably be short of food for the time they\u2019ve come across the Tasman Sea\u2014all those sorts of things have to be taken into consideration. It\u2019s really, really important. It\u2019s for these reasons that we\u2019re passing this bill, so that we are seen as a country that\u2019s ready to deal with these situations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000860\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022\u003EAs the bill has progressed through, we\u2019ve made some adjustments which have been well thought out. I commend the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee for the work they did, mainly in the previous Parliament, obviously. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000861\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022\u003EThe safeguards establish that we require an immigration officer to establish, in making an application for a group warrant of commitment, why the proposed detention is necessary. They\u2019ve got to establish that the detention sought is for the least amount of time and is the least restriction necessary to achieve the outcomes\u2014right? The proposed detention actually now meets the Government\u2019s obligations under the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act, which was something that was a concern for many. The proposed detention meets New Zealand\u2019s obligations under the 1951 Refugee Convention and our other international obligations because we\u2019re a good citizen of the world and we want to be seen that way. That\u2019s very really important. It requires an immigration officer now to report to the court weekly, unless that is varied by a judge during a period of warrantless detention of a mass arrival group.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000862\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022\u003EThese are just pragmatic, sensible changes\u2014OK? It allows a judge to order the location specified in the application of group or warrant of commitment to be varied to allow for this to all work smoothly. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000863\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s really important that New Zealand fulfils its obligations to people that are so desperate to come here and can make them feel as welcome as we can and process them appropriately. It\u2019s really, really important. I feel really proud to be part of a Government and part of a Parliament that is actually dealing with this properly. I\u2019m disappointed that some parties have opposed this. It\u2019s very disappointing to see that the Green Party have decided to oppose it, and I commend the Labour Opposition for their support on this bill. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000864\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002244967dc4-6cc7-4567-b8ef-cc3a9b354544\u0022\u003EI commend my colleagues for their speeches and, on that, we\u2019ll leave it there. I\u2019d like to now commend this bill to the House. Thank you, Madam Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca id=\u002205b0660d03f5444999036cd385f17e43\u0022 name=\u0022division\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EA party vote was called for on the question, That the Immigration (Mass Arrivals) Amendment Bill be now read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EAyes 102\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENew Zealand National 49; New Zealand Labour 34; ACT New Zealand 11; New Zealand First 8.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003ENoes 15\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EGreen Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 15.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp class=\u0022HpsDivision\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsItem\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000865\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000866\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00228bd7a0ed299f4c0da0fbfea1f480fb02\u0022\u003EM\u0101ori Fisheries Amendment Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000867\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f194d2f642934860b80da838f591c345\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022 data-id=\u0022f6eed9bb43f94b009507414c8033935b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000868\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f6eed9bb43f94b009507414c8033935b\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES (Minister for Oceans and Fisheries):\u003C/span\u003E I present a legislative statement on the M\u0101ori Fisheries Amendment Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000869\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002233ff1dea9a2f4a3facc28708d909d9bd\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That legislative statement is published under the authority of the House and can be found on the Parliament website.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000870\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a45f661880b84869b191bae07101b881\u0022\u003EHon SHANE JONES\u003C/span\u003E: I move, That the M\u0101ori Fisheries Amendment Bill be now read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000871\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ETe Iwi M\u0101ori have extensive interests and rights throughout the motu in terms of holding financial and commercial stakes in the fishing industry\u2014nigh on 40 percent of annual catch entitlement for fish stocks in our quota management system. The bill, which we address in the context of the third reading this evening, is a small contribution to a magnificent suite of options that I have the privilege of bringing to improve fisheries management in New Zealand. Much more will follow. However, tonight this bill assigns to M\u0101oridom a greater autonomy over their fisheries assets. It\u2019s designed to boost productivity and efficiency.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000872\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EIt needs to be said that this bill reflects considerable input from iwi, traceable back, as I\u2019ve said in an earlier contribution to the House, to the Tim Castle report of 2014-15, which itself was traceable back to the passage of legislation 12 years earlier. That was designed to enable the fisheries commission to undertake an operational review. After a number of years having passed, the product of that review is this particular piece of legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000873\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EIt enables the mandated iwi organisations to take more direct control of Te Ohu Kai Moana and Aotearoa Fisheries Limited (AFL). It changes governance arrangements of the settlement entities to make them consistent with each other in standard governance practices. It cancels voting shares in AFL and converts those income shares to ordinary shares which will be allocated to mandated iwi organisations, and it simplifies the process for trading within the M\u0101ori pool quota and other such interests.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000874\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003ENaturally, we must acknowledge the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee and those who have contributed to the development of the bill: mandated iwi organisations, recognised iwi organisations, and representative M\u0101ori organisations, who took their time to make contributions to the bill. The latter category of M\u0101ori organisation caused some whitewater. However, it needs to be noted, from the very beginning of the M\u0101ori fisheries journey, representative M\u0101ori organisations, colloquially known as urban M\u0101ori organisations, have been a part of the infrastructure. That will continue as a consequence of this bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000875\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI also want to recognise the trustee of the fisheries settlement for driving this kaupapa. In another life, I was not a supporter, but circumstances change and roles have to be fulfilled.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000876\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EOn the matter of changing the electoral college, which was created as an intermediate step enabling the 60- or 70-odd iwi to appoint and remove directors, this now moves to a direct level of responsibility between the various iwi and the peak body\u2014you could say it shortens the distance. Some submitters expressed concern that the changes would diminish the role of representative M\u0101ori organisations. That concern has been addressed without fatally wounding the importance of iwi organisations in the future governance of this important organisation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000877\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EThere may or may not be future reviews of the Act. As the bill introduced provides for such a thing to take place, some submitters were concerned that such reviews could be undertaken by default. But when those reviews do take place, it\u2019s important that independent reviewers are involved and that the ability to continue with such activity is legally mandated. However, such a level of review will now only take place when iwi pass a special resolution not to hold a review.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000878\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EOn the basis of the change to require the Crown to take all reasonable steps within its authority to introduce the bill, I am happy to share with the House that we are at the final stages. On the matter of issues related and changes in the committee of the whole House, I draw our attention to increase the time frame by which M\u0101ori iwi organisations can lease their annual quota entitlement. Historically it\u2019s been five years. It has been changed, and that is to enable M\u0101ori iwi organisations to achieve the full potential over a different period of time in terms of the utilisation of such rights.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000879\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EI think it\u2019s important\u2014given that we\u2019ve had a historic day with the Whakat\u014Dhea settlement and we have addressed one of the more modest settlements in Hauraki\u2014to acknowledge that there\u2019s still much more to be done in the area of M\u0101ori fisheries. Although M\u0101ori are key contributors to the fishery, no single stakeholder\u2019s interests are beyond the\u00A0importance of the sustainability of the actual resource. There is a host of opportunities for the various iwi to engage with the civil service to ensure that the perspectives and priorities that different iwi have\u2014whether it\u2019s Ng\u0101i Tahu, concerned about the change in the temperature of the water, the migration of the delicacy of the Tai Tokerau otherwise known as t\u0101mure or snapper now down around\u2014perish the thought!\u2014Greymouth. This reminds us that the changes being made today place a duty on Te Ohu Kai Moana to be a fair, legitimate, and tenacious advocate for M\u0101ori, because, whether we like it or not, this resource is facing huge challenges, challenges driven through climate change, challenges driven through technology, but, most importantly, challenges to the very social licence that\u00A0underpins fisheries. Sadly, a host of those challenges, from time to time, are driven by\u00A0falsehoods and misinformation, but the responsibility to correct that now lies with the peak bodies, of whom this Te Ohu Kai Moana entity is one.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000880\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f44431ef-b505-4e94-9f57-a60b0a569bf7\u0022\u003EIf iwi want to enjoy greater control over the affairs related to their investments in fisheries, they need to be proactive. They need a strong organisation that they feel they have control and authority over. But change and improvement will not come in the absence of quality information, constant vigilance, and ongoing advocacy. That is the challenge in a post-settlement environment for iwi organisations and their stewardship in terms of our natural resources. I am confident that this bill is a significant step towards enabling iwi to\u00A0enjoy rangatiratanga in that context and increase the productivity of that full and final\u00A0settlement, which was entered into in 1992 in the days of Jim Bolger. On that note, I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u0022f80078af29ae42e0afaf4c548a32280c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000881\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f80078af29ae42e0afaf4c548a32280c\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Members, the time has come for me to leave the Chair. The House will adjourn, and resume at 2 p.m. tomorrow.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000882\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EDebate interrupted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20240528d30617a2495e4e61b6969845afc5d390000883\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 9.58 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"