"\u003C!DOCTYPE html\u003E\u003Chtml xmlns:xlink=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink\u0022 xmlns:xsi=\u0022http://www.w3.org/2007/XMLSchema-instance\u0022 xmlns:mml=\u0022http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML\u0022\u003E\n  \u003Chead\u003E\n    \u003CMETA http-equiv=\u0022Content-Type\u0022 content=\u0022text/html; charset=utf-16\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cmeta name=\u0022viewport\u0022 content=\u0022width=device-width, initial-scale=1\u0022\u003E\n  \u003C/head\u003E\n  \u003Cbody style=\u0022font-family:sans-serif; font-size:100%;\u0022\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000001\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d3911ca2326a43baa63ae46b28d11986\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 30 JANUARY 2025\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000003\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00223100f93550a846a790d1d0aeaccf38aa\u0022\u003ETHURSDAY, 30 JANUARY 2025\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000002\u0022\u003EThe Speaker took the Chair at 2 p.m.\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000004\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022454bb20b6fb64e36890d0d5c57de1bdf\u0022\u003EKarakia/Prayers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000006\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022a67644532427409a834c2766ab92a0dd\u0022\u003EKarakia/Prayers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u0022f164dbc33c5d4728bfe0e09a95d601f5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000005\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f164dbc33c5d4728bfe0e09a95d601f5\u0022\u003EBARBARA KURIGER (Deputy Speaker):\u003C/span\u003E Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the King and pray for guidance in our deliberations, that we may conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000007\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022cbe5f2d0279c4a1a90c9cf3493dd1a95\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000009\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e1a2451eb38346e18aec9bd8131580ad\u0022\u003EBusiness Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u00226b263a12423649128cf2a6023bb42c9c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000008\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226b263a12423649128cf2a6023bb42c9c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I call the Hon Chris Hipkins\u2014sorry, Chris Bishop. That\u2019s the second day in a row. I withdraw and apologise. I must have Hipkins on the brain or something! I call the Hon Chris Bishop.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u00221a944b8b363b4163a8d28aa99e816f6c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000010\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00221a944b8b363b4163a8d28aa99e816f6c\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Leader of the House):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. Welcome back to all members. Today, the House will adjourn until 11 February. In that week, we will complete the debate on the Prime Minister\u2019s statement. We will also have the second readings of the Customer and Product Data Bill and the District Court (District Court Judges) Amendment Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000011\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002282a2369d7453434f98bf440f5a4639c3\u0022\u003EPETITIONS, PAPERS, SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS, AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLS\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000013\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022013b8cdb5fc54823965acc428fe8251a\u0022\u003EPETITIONS, PAPERS, SELECT COMMITTEE REPORTS, AND INTRODUCTION OF BILLS\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022c9973ac2d4124ad0982a7011e88526d0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000012\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c9973ac2d4124ad0982a7011e88526d0\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. A paper has been delivered for presentation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022\u0022 data-id=\u0022ddcfb571d2ab4e65bb913096cfb54092\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000014\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ddcfb571d2ab4e65bb913096cfb54092\u0022\u003ECLERK\u003C/span\u003E: 2023-24 annual report for the Teaching Council of Aotearoa New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u00220014ed9b9abc4ddba88c7d9b08a10ce0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000015\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220014ed9b9abc4ddba88c7d9b08a10ce0\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That paper is published under the authority of the House. No select committee reports have been delivered for presentation. No bills have been introduced.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000016\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002278586adfd9f842f7990c046a83441e94\u0022\u003EOral Questions\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000017\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022d00971770d4b43c18d06264bc9d0a201\u0022\u003EQuestions to Ministers\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000018\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b35c5a5a4a0d49198cfe3e4b50d562cb\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 1\u2014Health\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022 data-id=\u0022e5942b378e21439db649852bd6fa4553\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000019\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E1. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e5942b378e21439db649852bd6fa4553\u0022\u003EH\u016AHANA LYNDON (Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Health: Does she stand by her statement that \u201CNicotine is incredibly addictive\u201D; if so, what evidence-based actions, if any, has she taken to support people to quit nicotine?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022 data-id=\u0022612000d591d04d12bf01f122d8a96242\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000020\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022612000d591d04d12bf01f122d8a96242\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO (Associate Minister of Health):\u003C/span\u003E Nicotine is incredibly addictive; there\u2019s not a single person in this House who would dispute that. Unfortunately, yet again, the members opposite continue to conflate two different issues, so I will try again to clarify. Smoking kills. It harms nearly every organ of the body, causing cancer, heart disease, stroke, lung disease\u2014the list goes on. But let\u2019s be clear. Nicotine is what keeps people smoking; it is not what makes it deadly. That\u2019s why this Government is focused on supporting smokers to manage their addiction to nicotine by accessing lower-harm nicotine products as alternatives to cigarettes. This has been standard practice for a considerable period of time. Once smokers have successfully quit, stop smoking services are able to support individuals to shift their focus to quitting vaping.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000021\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002298c0356c3cd24a11943b759000fa1354\u0022\u003EH\u016Bhana Lyndon\u003C/span\u003E: Why is her Government funding RELX vapes as smoking cessation devices when unlike all other smoking cessation tools, they have not been approved by Medsafe and have not been through a robust procurement process?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221a12c94893794888bea8c0f0b0db48e0\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO\u003C/span\u003E: The procurement process has been complied with. The product is completely compliant and safe. It is supplied by a company with no affiliations to the tobacco industry and it is a completely compliant product and is New Zealand - owned. The issue that we are talking about is that this product is being funded by the innovation fund as a tool to apply to alternative products that will help smokers quit smoking. It is only provided through quit smoking services and only to adult smokers and only to those who have committed to a programme of quitting smoking.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000023\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c8951e8c99ba4d71a5e18efe7695fc68\u0022\u003EH\u016Bhana Lyndon\u003C/span\u003E: Does she acknowledge that RELX determined an unusually high nicotine content for these vapes compared to approved smoking cessation tools, making them more addictive, and therefore maximising RELX\u2019s financial gain?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000024\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022af6ffb78563c48cb80fc2a30dd12d894\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO\u003C/span\u003E: Yet again we are conflating the issues. We are talking about a product that is less harmful than smoking and therefore will allow long-term addicted smokers to quit smoking.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000025\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a6845bb9cc7b47dda12050c3007deb2d\u0022\u003EH\u016Bhana Lyndon\u003C/span\u003E: What is her response to leaked recordings of RELX employees stating, \u201CWe\u2019ve made effing bribes in New Zealand and Australia.\u201D and \u201CThat\u2019s the thing, right? Especially in difficult markets or markets with heavy strict regulations, all you have to do to circumnavigate them is to go into the grey channels.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000026\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022235a7cb807ed48fc99dd502c21c3abf3\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Speaker, could she repeat the question? I\u2019m not sure what the question was.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000027\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a0e0025de04148d8ab88323bb5b3be4e\u0022\u003EH\u016Bhana Lyndon\u003C/span\u003E: What is your response to the quote? [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000028\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d8a0539cc43b4122a87a1d7f88ec0402\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: We\u2019ll hear the question again in silence, but I think that some care needs to be taken over the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000029\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002230d7b7f77160441c9db5907e88765fb9\u0022\u003EH\u016Bhana Lyndon\u003C/span\u003E: What is her response to the leaked recordings of RELX employees stating, \u201CWe\u2019ve made effing bribes in New Zealand and Australia.\u201D and \u201CThat\u2019s the thing, right? Especially in difficult markets or markets with heavy strict regulations, all you have to do to circumnavigate them is to go into the grey channels.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000030\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002285026475f81045ddb1f8e09bec87ef8d\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO\u003C/span\u003E: My response to that summation of quotes is the fact that she\u2019s missed out the section where the people in the recording are saying \u201CNo, no, no. That\u2019s not what we do.\u201D and also that this is a 2023 recording in Singapore, which has no connection to New Zealand markets or New Zealanders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000031\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e4870d40013e4fcd9fbe91376143ffa8\u0022\u003EH\u016Bhana Lyndon\u003C/span\u003E: What is her response to leaked recordings of\u2014[Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000032\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228cb8e2eebd40473685237428ef504ea1\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Hang on. Wait on.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000033\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e9102a2ef2e247f49209c0862212da42\u0022\u003EH\u016Bhana Lyndon\u003C/span\u003E: What is her response to leaked recordings of RELX employees stating, \u201CI\u2019m talking about making, like, Government payments.\u201D and in response, \u201CWe don\u2019t do that visibly in Australia and New Zealand, but Government payments are not a problem for us because these are extremely\u2014how do I put it\u2014subtle.\u201D?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000034\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226f51c03d49c9440e9a8ddf7258505dbf\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO\u003C/span\u003E: The inference that this New Zealand Government has received bribes is abhorrent and I reject the premise of that question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000035\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ebaee3923b4d459580c6ee9921d24251\u0022\u003EH\u016Bhana Lyndon\u003C/span\u003E: Will she ensure the procurement process for RELX vapes undergoes independent investigation in light of these comments from RELX employees, and if not, how will she address the concerns from New Zealanders about the procurement of these devices?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000036\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022252f79ecf3b9425e84170150aa32ae8e\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO\u003C/span\u003E: I have met with officials today. I\u2019m confident in the procurement processes. We have produced a product that will allow smokers to quit smoking, and we stand by that programme of work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000037\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022dfef6c1c55664684a0bf7be10544a7c6\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 2\u2014Customs\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022 data-id=\u0022e3f54e10fa694f4aa07e775147787e0d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000038\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E2. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e3f54e10fa694f4aa07e775147787e0d\u0022\u003EJENNY MARCROFT (NZ First)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Customs: What updates can she provide about the New Zealand Customs Service\u2019s efforts to improve services using technology?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022 data-id=\u0022f92b49c4d1b340fd9c114dbc08f932c4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000039\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f92b49c4d1b340fd9c114dbc08f932c4\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO (Minister of Customs):\u003C/span\u003E I am pleased to announce that the New Zealand Customs Service, who are an exemplary Government department, recently announced that more travellers are now using the digital traveller declaration than the paper version. Everyone entering New Zealand must complete a declaration, and Customs and its border partners have worked tirelessly to encourage Kiwis and overseas visitors to use the declaration, which can be done 24 hours in advance of travel, rather than on board a flight, and makes it easy to fill out multiple declarations before getting off a plane. Downloading the New Zealand Traveller Declaration app has additional benefits for families and frequent travellers. The digital declaration delivers better public services by supporting efficient processing by border agencies, and streamlining passengers\u2019 experience entering New Zealand. I would encourage everyone to give the digital declaration a go the next time they return to New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000040\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224cfe3c6f9bde492b8c9179c5c16c3959\u0022\u003EJenny Marcroft\u003C/span\u003E: What other technology improvements are delivering better services for passengers arriving to or departing New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000041\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e023e9b1d6f749c0bed39de7fb4bf505\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO\u003C/span\u003E: From September last year, e-passport holders from all 27 EU member States became able to use e-gates on arrival to and departure from New Zealand. This expansion means that travellers from 37 countries have access to automatic border processing in New Zealand. This represents over 85 percent of all arriving and departing travellers. I\u2019m also advised that Customs is finalising plans to progressively open e-gates\u2019 access to remaining visa-waiver countries. Seamless and efficient border processing not only improves traveller experiences, it also frees up front-line customer staff to increase their focus on critical tasks, like assessing high-risk travellers.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000042\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022340bdb484d2c43feafb3b5ce847b8631\u0022\u003EJenny Marcroft\u003C/span\u003E: Are technology improvements also supporting New Zealand businesses?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000043\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cc5ec04511744832b5a0d43aeab0dbb5\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO\u003C/span\u003E: In the environment of saying \u201Cyes\u201D and committing to economic growth, Customs has made significant progress in making it easier for businesses to spend less time on paperwork, and more time focused on their business. Last year, Customs launched the alcohol Excise Duty Estimator on its website, and updated duty alcohol application forms and permits. Both of these updates aim to support businesses to make excise-related information easier to understand and more readily available. In addition, the launch of the MyCustoms account platform in June last year delivered improved accessibility, with deferred payment account holders given the ability to view their balance and transactions, download statements, and immediately access the information that they need online. Customs\u2019 deferred payments scheme allows importers to defer payments on their Customs\u2019 charges, consolidating them into a monthly invoice. This frees up cash flow, and means low-risk imports can move across the border faster. I\u2019m advised that further options for online services are being developed, with the aim of being rolled out for clients later this year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000044\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d152ae0444d3472f901a4f2d02f1ad27\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That answer was excessively long. So I\u2019m sure the next one will compensate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000045\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022468b357035784f8e9dc28fc22ddb6f5a\u0022\u003EJenny Marcroft\u003C/span\u003E: What feedback related to technology improvements has been received by Customs that she\u2019s aware of?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000046\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022feb2e3ca-4ad3-4c7c-9958-b10d28c83bc8\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ba0d7b487d8b432ba7331045fff502ac\u0022\u003EHon CASEY COSTELLO\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019ve been advised that the digital advances made by Customs are being positively received and providing improved efficiencies for both Customs\u2019 operational needs, as well as the public using their services. Further stakeholders that Customs work with, such as airlines and fast freight and Custom brokers, are all enthusiastic about the agency\u2019s development of digital services.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000047\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022274b09d8678d47209afef5f040fbd830\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 3\u2014Prime Minister\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022 data-id=\u00220482eb00f2134030959cee54423cf13c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000048\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E3. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00220482eb00f2134030959cee54423cf13c\u0022\u003EHon CARMEL SEPULONI (Deputy Leader\u2014Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his Government\u2019s statements and actions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022 data-id=\u0022de349da5f54342698c5c2246f3ae3196\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000049\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022de349da5f54342698c5c2246f3ae3196\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS (Deputy Prime Minister)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Prime Minister: Yes.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000050\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224e4661ea3c234f1598ba1ec2c7dc742f\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Why did the Government approve the purchase of $575,000 worth of vaping products from RELX, a company accused of bribing the New Zealand Government?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000051\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226024366e8213429f8aabadbaf37fdc56\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: As that member was just told, the date of that so-called phone call was to a Government that she was a member of with the help of the Greens in 2023. So any implication of a bribery comes straight back to her own back door. Now, having dismissed that because I don\u2019t believe it did happen in that way\u2014I think it\u2019s a typical Green fiction\u2014the reality is that the product works and all evidence says so. It says so in other countries, and we\u2019re in the first three in the world in reducing cigarette smoking and we should salute that because we\u2019re ahead of our target now.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000052\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225dbb682137ed4984b8f0c5fffee3df70\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I think it is important, as I\u2019ve raised a number of times, that when the Deputy Prime Minister is answering on behalf of the Prime Minister, he makes that clear. It makes it difficult for the Opposition subsequently to hold the Prime Minister to account on comments that were made\u00A0on his behalf when it\u2019s so easily dismissed as \u201CI didn\u2019t say that.\u201D There is a requirement in Speakers\u2019 rulings that Ministers answering on behalf of others make that clear before they\u00A0answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000053\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223a9dca59cc39490ebf4d8a5b8a261601\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you. Another supplementary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000054\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228ff8c869ffa14504b04e89e2f3fd9574\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Can he confirm whether any Minister or official was aware of the bribery allegations against RELX before the procurement of these vaping products?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000055\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022704eca5fa416418dbe8dc1d74ad8938d\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: We most definitely cannot confirm that because we weren\u2019t in Government at the time; she was.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000056\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cccefc3ce41c4d3da1e5601ad5e06cb6\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Was a formal tender process followed for selecting a vaping supplier at Health New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000057\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225ce0afd2c59846c795afefeb7ba4ce8c\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Could you say that again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000058\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226531009abbc04c238ac03a06dc0d5a81\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Ask the question again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000059\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225da6f79cc6b84527bbd42e87fd0bf99b\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Was a formal tender process followed for selecting a vaping supplier at Health New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000060\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227913cc0f5b8b4beba35ab0ed146c16e4\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: The Minister in charge has had a review today and she\u2019s given that answer to a prior question in this House already.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000061\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222d63804c5c474d009842c8d909a961ce\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Does he believe it is appropriate for Health New Zealand to use taxpayer money to purchase products from a company with a documented history of regulatory breaches?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000062\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223bbacdd3161148f88b8a32e1fc65b20d\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Well, again, if that is the case, then that Minister and her colleagues owe us an explanation as to how they began the process in the first place.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000063\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d2b648a947714592b9f07f9c94859a40\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Can he confirm whether any Minister, official, or Government agency has had undisclosed meetings, correspondence, or lobbying interactions with RELX or it\u2019s representatives?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000064\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b49354ddae8b42dfb71e13e311931944\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: I have to tell that member that many of us on this side have never heard of that company before today, and for such an inquiry to be answered we would need to have it on notice so we can go and find out and give you an honest answer in this House. Bear this in mind, though: the survey that began this process was done when she was in Government in 2021, and it said that the evidence says that smoking goes down as the less harmful vaping goes up. She got that information and she was acting on it then. Why the change in policy from the Opposition now?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000065\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228b9a357623964bd4a149e15f2faaa76b\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Can the Prime Minister rule out that any Government officials, Ministers, or parties in this Government received direct or indirect benefits from RELX or its affiliates in relation to that purchase; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000066\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227d6724fdb22f4260aa8797d89fd9354a\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: I am very grateful, as it turns out, for the Greens\u2019 disclosure today, because the year 2023 says that everything about this question relates to their time in office. So we can\u2019t account just for our side without finding out about her side. So perhaps we can come back next week and answer the question, having made full inquiries of the Labour Party and the Green Party.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000067\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224f4a601d61e84fc5a2cf2b2ad99c4a13\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Does he have confidence in Associate Minister of Health Casey Costello\u2019s handling of this procurement process, given the lack of transparency and due diligence?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000068\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220f49b095ef3e4787b0f44478475bb6b9\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: Sometimes, you know, you can give an answer; you take a horse to water, but you can\u2019t make it drink. The answer is profoundly in her own court. This began in 2023 when they were responsible. They started the process and all of a sudden, now, all sorts of allegations are falsely made and probably taken up by a very compliant media as part and parcel of the future history of this matter, but none of it will be true. Yes, I do have confidence in the Minister, total confidence in the Minister, because she\u2019s got an impeccable record on matters like that, as a former policewoman.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000069\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002252adf863bedd459496cf63745c16669c\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: Will he commit to an independent public inquiry into the influence of the tobacco and vaping industry on its smoke-free policies; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000070\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002224c0af5be4e44a809dbd022a1594e0f4\u0022\u003ERt Hon WINSTON PETERS\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019d barely be able to explain why they\u2019re going to have an inquiry when the tobacco companies are screaming blue murder that they\u2019re being treated unfairly. Can\u2019t that member get through her head what\u2019s actually happened here? You\u2019ve got the insinuation, and the facts are a thousand miles away from them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000071\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002214e14ecc020e435095686c5504086655\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 4\u2014Transport\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022 data-id=\u0022963b755598f84a1eaa5609fe149006e9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000072\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003E4. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022963b755598f84a1eaa5609fe149006e9\u0022\u003EMIKE BUTTERICK (National\u2014Wairarapa)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Transport: What reaction has he seen to the announcement yesterday that the previous Government\u2019s speed limit reductions are being reversed by 1 July 2025?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u0022d290e87c544b4e94a0418a859a0bc764\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000073\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d290e87c544b4e94a0418a859a0bc764\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Minister of Transport):\u003C/span\u003E There\u2019s been a fantastic response due to yesterday\u2019s announcement around the reversal of the untargeted blanket speed limit reductions. For example, Transporting New Zealand saying they are \u201Cpleased to see the programme of speed limit reversals getting underway\u201D and \u201Cchanges will reduce journey times and help avoid dangerous behaviour by frustrated drivers.\u201D It was good to see that Masterton Mayor Gary Caffell, His Worship, told Morning Report \u201Cthe three-minute saving journey [time] meant a lot for transport firms, ambulances and emergency services like the fire brigade.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000074\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221da780ef8a2d49678ac106c13b5da44f\u0022\u003EMike Butterick\u003C/span\u003E: What feedback has he seen regarding the economic growth potential of this announcement?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000075\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b7cb5316c8ab463db6542ee8b8f9b4dc\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, we are very focused in this Government on speeding up economic growth and these measures will make a difference. Time savings make a difference across the country when it comes to making it easier to get from A to B. Transporting New Zealand said their members have been frustrated by blanket speed restrictions; the impact of increased journey times and increased freight costs were not adequately considered. New Zealand Couriers said that speed limits are an issue for couriers. The answer to unlocking growth in this economy is not one silver bullet policy; it\u2019s hundreds of different actions like this one taken across Government to speed New Zealand\u2019s economy up.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000076\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022958117d8d4784d759dd43f6803561904\u0022\u003EMike Butterick\u003C/span\u003E: Has he seen any feedback from Wairarapa locals about the speed limit reversal on State Highway 2?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000077\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002210d157a87f0f420ba78fae23f3b7de27\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: It was interesting on Wednesday, in Featherston. We stopped in for a quick cup of coffee on the way back over the hill, to a claim from locals about the reversal of State Highway 2. I quote Pat Fairhall, who told media he travels in it a lot: \u201Cthe previous reduction \u2026 had made the journey very slow, \u2026 with a central barrier in place, it was possible to drive safely at higher speeds.\u201D Angus Stokes, in Wairarapa, said \u201CIt was a good change. It\u2019ll help speed things up with traffic and stuff like that.\u201D The Mayor of South Wairarapa: \u201Cabout time\u201D\u2014very concise and very correct. And I have seen the views of another Wairarapa resident, who told media yesterday he was pleased to see the speed limits go up and had, in fact, tried himself to get the limits changed and he was very annoyed at the New Zealand Transport Agency (NZTA). But a change of Government has put that situation right and I\u2019m pleased to make sure that Kieran McAnulty\u2019s day was made on Wednesday.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000078\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ff4813dd89004d5c8d0f96f824c45cd3\u0022\u003EHon Dr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order. That was\u2014[Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000079\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228afdd71b4ce846aca7c786e6024df251\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Let me just call you, for a start. Point of order, Duncan Webb\u2014to be heard in silence.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000080\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f7fc7ac3-5ce1-43ca-8cd6-dbb0941bf3ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224f89c8c1a9434b918ae92a5f2341f21f\u0022\u003EHon Dr Duncan Webb\u003C/span\u003E: I did pause because I was hoping you\u2019d intervene, but that was a wholly gratuitous attack on a member, using a patsy question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000081\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225696539a73b04bf395e2639408c9c0b8\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: One of the things that\u2019s been very interesting in the last few days is the heightened sensitivity that some people have to various\u2014[Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000082\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224a723fe2693a4e528a2bd63818c7fb74\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: That\u2019s right. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000083\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227ac06ce67bbb41e6ae5e240ac7cf492f\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014excuse me\u2014comments that have been made in the House. I\u2019ve looked through the Standing Orders, I\u2019ve looked through the Speaker\u2019s rulings, I\u2019ve found 10 that could touch on this, but none of them anticipate the degree of sensitivity that appears to be there at the present time. So I will be inviting the Standing Orders Committee to look at that in due course, but I think it\u2019s very hard to say that if someone stands to congratulate another member on something they\u2019ve said, that somehow that\u2019s having a go at them. The public simply would not understand that. I think it also makes this Parliament less than the place of free speech and expression that it should be. Thank you for your concern, but we\u2019ll move on. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000084\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00225665380b-62fd-4d75-85e0-0ed801a402e0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ac1dc829176d4b2ca477c1dc5ba70039\u0022\u003EMike Butterick\u003C/span\u003E: What are the next steps in the reversal of the last Government\u2019s blanket speed limit reductions?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000085\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea98a8d41a7a40d2a4575418dfb2684b\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: The Land Transport Rule: Setting of Speed Limits 2024 requires NZTA and councils to reverse the speed limits lowered since January 2020 on several categories of road by 1 July 2025. Thirty-eight speed limits on State highways are being reversed to their previous higher speed limit, and there\u2019s further consultation on a further 49. I encourage New Zealanders participate in this consultation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000086\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00227e6ad5aea2ab4b07a2b596688485a5e2\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 5\u2014Internal Affairs\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022 data-id=\u0022ee09a75069ca4229bcfb6aa59735ce04\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000087\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003E5. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ee09a75069ca4229bcfb6aa59735ce04\u0022\u003ELAURA McCLURE (ACT)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Internal Affairs: What recent reports has she seen about the processing of citizenship applications?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022 data-id=\u00229450b51184cb400b8f28459efed0252c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000088\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229450b51184cb400b8f28459efed0252c\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN (Minister of Internal Affairs):\u003C/span\u003E The Department of Internal Affairs processed 54 percent more citizenship applications in December 2024 than were completed in December the year prior: 5,661 individual citizenship applications were completed last month\u2014more than any other month in 2024. I have asked the department to focus on improving outcomes for new New Zealanders and I\u2019m pleased to see progress being made.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000089\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223aa8e8b815e948ed9e2c9dab69b480f2\u0022\u003ELaura McClure\u003C/span\u003E: What does this mean for the backlog of citizenship applications?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000090\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002248078a244f2e4ffca6ac65f1ba4935d8\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: The number of work-in-progress applications is consistently decreasing, from 28,544 when I took office in November 2023, to 18,749 as of last month\u2014a drop of 34 percent. The oldest applications being picked up for processing are now from late March 2024.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000091\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022771df9c5c69849289906ea5b0c1e9781\u0022\u003ELaura McClure\u003C/span\u003E: How has this improvement been made?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000092\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c5690cd9c48c4c4f81401da2829c3d0b\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: Increasing the efficiency of the Department of Internal Affairs and improving the delivery of core services is one of my key priorities as Minister. The department has been working to cross-skill their staff across citizenship, passport, and digital identity or RealMe applications to better respond to the fluctuations in demand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000093\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00228f20b644-642a-4c85-ade9-d5af32dc690b\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002204216210c05246f8bd234df815696d21\u0022\u003ELaura McClure\u003C/span\u003E: What communication have you had from the public about citizenship wait-times?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000094\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002266f06e7e-afa8-457f-a105-048b86a13282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022741b7eef8bf04d5eafc45edd019343ab\u0022\u003EHon BROOKE VAN VELDEN\u003C/span\u003E: I have heard from many people who are applying for citizenship about the impact that long wait times have on them and their families. I know this can be tough on those who have lived and worked in New Zealand for many years and want to take that next step of becoming a New Zealand citizen. I\u2019m pleased to see progress in reducing the backlog of citizenship applications, and I will remain focused on improving outcomes in this area. Congratulations to all new New Zealanders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000095\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u002232f428a9250a4aa694044c4acf61377e\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 6\u2014Finance\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022 data-id=\u002243937c5f6d8e4b19be8c7a034d45cc8e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000096\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E6. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002243937c5f6d8e4b19be8c7a034d45cc8e\u0022\u003EHon Dr MEGAN WOODS (Labour\u2014Wigram)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Finance: When did she ask for advice on the purpose and performance of State-owned enterprises, and what does she intend to do with any assets she deems to be underperforming? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u0022f34573ce4e51475fa7bfc61bca04e6e2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000097\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f34573ce4e51475fa7bfc61bca04e6e2\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Associate Minister of Finance)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister of Finance: Ministers in this Government regularly seek information on the performance of Government entities. This is so we can drive better performance, meaning better services for New Zealanders and, potentially, higher dividends. When the Government took office in November 2023, Treasury proactively advised in its briefing to incoming shareholding and responsible Ministers (BIM) that Ministers should consider being clearer about the purpose of the Crown\u2019s ownership of several Government-owned companies. Treasury noted that \u201COECD guidelines recommend that countries also set out an \u2018ownership policy statement\u2019, and many OECD countries do so,\u201D. That BIM has been released publicly. Shareholding Ministers accepted Treasury\u2019s suggestion and agreed to receive advice on the issue. In answer to the second part of the question, if an entity is underperforming, then Ministers would look to improve its performance. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000098\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002277a8d4ab49b2410a961d46a7a0e5e12d\u0022\u003EHon Dr Megan Woods\u003C/span\u003E: Did she inform the wider Cabinet that she had initiated this work? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000099\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225684d8b425cb42ea8152e8941411836d\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: We don\u2019t talk about what happens in Cabinet, but it is certainly true that other Ministers in addition to the Minister of Finance, such as the Minister for State Owned Enterprises (Minister for SOEs) and other Associate Ministers of Finance, have been, in some cases, receiving advice on that. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000100\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bf5ce3ff476443ee9ca68b8b7e3abe77\u0022\u003EHon Dr Megan Woods\u003C/span\u003E: Were all her Associate Ministers of Finance receiving this advice? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000101\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002270e902c254b64c71ad01c73bef4f3198\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister of Finance, I couldn\u2019t honestly give the member an answer that I was sure was accurate, because I\u2019m not the Minister of Finance. But on behalf of the Minister, what I can say is that the Minister for SOEs has received advice, alongside the Minister of Finance, because in most cases the Minister for SOEs is a shareholding Minister in some Government companies\u2014as the member will know from her own time\u2014and Associate Ministers of Finance have received papers. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000102\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224c6524b305084e618bc41af2786c9604\u0022\u003EHon Dr Megan Woods\u003C/span\u003E: Does she agree with Treasury, which said yesterday that Crown entities account for half the Government\u2019s deficit, and does she consider the sale of those entities could improve the deficit? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000103\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224fce4e9c390f4982bc3bad63b2dcf958\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it is definitely true to say that improving the performance of Crown entities would make a material difference to the Government books, and that is one of the reasons why Ministers have agreed to receive advice, as advised by the Treasury, on ownership policy statements. In relation to Crown entities and the Crown books, ACC, for example, is a large driver. However, it is not Government policy to sell ACC. It is Government policy to improve its performance. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000104\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022012394dd63af4f36a1d8acb5039d93b0\u0022\u003EHon Dr Megan Woods\u003C/span\u003E: Does the contribution to the deficit play a role in her consideration of whether the Government is doing a good job in managing them? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000105\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226da4e9fcf58d4f3e9494424923cd7484\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: No. What drives the Government\u2019s interest is improving the financial situation of the country and improving the living standards for all New Zealanders. The Crown owns a significant number of assets and companies. Ministers are keen to drive improved financial performance of those companies and those assets. That is one of the reasons why Ministers have received advice on ownership policy statements, and\u00A0I note that those countries well-known as Friedmanite, monetarist bastions like France, Germany, Korea, Norway, and Sweden have ownership policy statements for their Government assets. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000106\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fda987c1e77c43bea34a19a93166998c\u0022\u003EHon Dr Megan Woods\u003C/span\u003E: Does she consider it is good value for money to run down State assets, sell them to the private sector, and then repurchase them at a later date at an inflated price? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000107\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ea0155e0c27d491abd3fb6b54a576944\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, there are about three or four hypothetical statements within that, and none of those things are Government policy. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000108\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f89e2cdf5fd2451097df2f42a3904a24\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 7\u2014M\u0101ori Crown Relations: Te Arawhiti\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022 data-id=\u002245528d15063141b086cafbdc7cab0172\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000109\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003E7. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002245528d15063141b086cafbdc7cab0172\u0022\u003EHANA-RAWHITI MAIPI-CLARKE (Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori\u2014Hauraki-Waikato)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for M\u0101ori Crown Relations: Te Arawhiti: Does he agree with the Prime Minister that Crown-M\u0101ori relations are \u201Cprobably worse\u201D under the coalition Government?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022 data-id=\u0022799bcf0d040047d39cec1f826f6a43b7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000110\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022799bcf0d040047d39cec1f826f6a43b7\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA (Minister for M\u0101ori Crown Relations: Te Arawhiti):\u003C/span\u003E I te ao, i te p\u014D, e tika ana te k\u014Drero a te Pir\u012Bmia. T\u0113nei \u0101huatanga, te K\u0101wanatanga, p\u0113r\u0101 i ng\u0101 p\u0101ti o t\u0113nei Whare me ng\u0101 mema P\u0101remata: he w\u0101 ka tae mai, he w\u0101 ka hoki ki te k\u0101inga. Engari me toit\u016B te Tiriti ki te \u0101ke \u0101ke.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000111\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ET\u0113nei \u0101huatanga, te hononga i waenganui i te Karauna me ng\u0101 iwi M\u0101ori, ng\u0101 hap\u016B M\u0101ori, he w\u0101 ka piki, he w\u0101 ka heke. I \u0113nei r\u0101 tata nei, kua kite hoki i te p\u0101heketanga e p\u0101 ana ki te pire m\u0101t\u0101pono Tiriti, engari \u0101 te r\u0101 nei ka kitea hoki t\u014Dna whakarewanga i ng\u0101 mahi e p\u0101 ana ki Te Pire Whakatupua, ar\u0101 tae atu ki te whakahoutanga o te M\u0101ori Purposes Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000112\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E[At all times, the Prime Minister\u2019s statements are true. This characteristic of the Government, similar to the parties of this House and the members of Parliament: there is a time to come here, and a time to go home. But the Treaty must remain for ever and ever. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000113\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThis characteristic, the relationship between the Crown and the M\u0101ori peoples, the hap\u016B of the M\u0101ori, there are times when it rises and times that it falls. In recent days, a slide has been observed related to the Treaty principles bill, but today its rise will be seen with the actions related to the Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill\u2014i.e., including the amendment of the M\u0101ori Purposes Bill.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000114\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b4111a847a6c483caab5bd746a51cd3d\u0022\u003EHana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke\u003C/span\u003E: Does he agree with his statement that \u201Cte iwi M\u0101ori and Te Tiriti are fundamental to the country\u2019s past, present, and future\u201D; if so, why is he supporting the Regulatory Standards Bill, which would limit the role of Te Tiriti o Waitangi in future legislation?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000115\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a61482b59e3345f383c6d2d67c9d2161\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: Ae, e tino tautoko ana au i t\u0101ku k\u014Drero ai, me te mea nei, t\u0101ria te w\u0101 ka rongo hoki ki ng\u0101 k\u014Drero a te Pir\u012Bmia; t\u0101ria te w\u0101, m\u014D t\u0113r\u0101 pire, ka kitea hoki t\u014Dna whakatinanatanga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000116\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E[Yes, I absolutely support what I said, and, similarly, in time we will hear the statements of the Prime Minister; in time, with respect to that bill, we will see its enactment.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000117\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220ef5a38c-0ef7-4d68-8621-dcbb47077e6e\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222041a3e274d7492696aa0727a8dc1c42\u0022\u003EHana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke\u003C/span\u003E: Did he advocate for the inclusion of M\u0101ori issues in the Prime Minister\u2019s statement, considering that the Prime Minister has admitted what the M\u0101ori-Crown relationship is worth under his Government?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000118\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002268a79016ca4d4297a99e8f4474d671f3\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: The content of the Prime Minister\u2019s speeches is for the Prime Minister, not for Tama Potaka.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000119\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022678137079d954dd8af1c652b2a380362\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 8\u2014Housing\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022 data-id=\u002245fed11929f6478796c28fe2b134358f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000120\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E8. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002245fed11929f6478796c28fe2b134358f\u0022\u003EHon KIERAN McANULTY (Labour)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Housing: Does he stand by his answer to oral question No. 9 yesterday that \u201Cthose people who have a genuine need for a short-term stay in temporary accommodation known as emergency housing have a pathway to do that\u201D; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022 data-id=\u0022416f25d70830437d8fb8b93ce603577b\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000121\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022416f25d70830437d8fb8b93ce603577b\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA (Associate Minister of Housing):\u003C/span\u003E Ki te arero o \u014Dku t\u016Bpuna, \u0101na, i te nuinga o ng\u0101 t\u0101one o Aotearoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000122\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E[In the language of my ancestors, yes, in the majority of the towns and cities of Aotearoa.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000123\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002262cb98a4b8734a42bf440fdf7b87d1a5\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: How does he reconcile that with numerous front-line providers telling him at the Community Housing Aotearoa Conference 2024 that the policy changes he brought in are stopping those with genuine need getting into emergency housing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000124\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ee4f4ef6b9804e2aacb5e47c368963f3\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: We have been very clear about the process through which the assessment of genuine need is undertaken, and we\u2019re very confident that the officials are undertaking that process in a pono and tika manner.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000125\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221a504bcbfb0b4d21959494d9af9cb204\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: How does the young mother and her four-month-old in Tauranga, who was told she can\u2019t apply for emergency housing and is now living in a tent, not have genuine need?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000126\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022481f6afac0734da8bd1875b4b12e3ca2\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: In relation to that particular example, without further information, it\u2019s very hard to respond fully, and I\u2019m sure that is a matter that should be dealt with at an operational end, and I encourage that to be followed up.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000127\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dd2cb1815210463db8473eb5f963c645\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: How does the man in Christchurch who was discharged from hospital, denied emergency housing, and readmitted to hospital after complications from sleeping in his car not have genuine need?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000128\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229927e65da6274e8e9a1dc6ae6d4e26c5\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: Again, that\u2019s a very specific example, and without further context, it\u2019s very difficult to respond to that. But those with genuine need for short-term stay in temporary accommodation in most cities and towns have a pathway to do that. And with that, as this House knows, as this House understands, there is a responsibilities framework in place. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000129\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022db26a2d50b014026969db812a1ad1951\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Sorry\u2014stop, Minister. Let me make it very clear that the complaints that have been around about various comments made in the House have all come from interjections across the House and then responses to them. Interjections should be rare and reasonable. It\u2019s the one thing Standing Orders and Speakers\u2019 rulings are quite firm on, and so I\u2019m reaffirming that. Please refrain from the sort of barrage that was coming from one sector of the Opposition during that last question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000130\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022edec212fe1b94144b03866476e2e7b49\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: How do the mother and her children in the Wellington region, who, despite having fled domestic violence, are now sleeping rough and were still prevented from applying for emergency housing, not have genuine need?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000131\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bdb548a0ea5b41a089fe76d93df091ff\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: Again, what I want to reiterate is that there are a lot of New Zealanders doing it really tough, particularly with the cost of living and the economic recession that we\u2019ve inherited. But our teams and our officials will continue to work very hard and closely with people in difficult situations to ensure that they have the appropriate support, whether or not that\u2019s in emergency housing or transitional housing or elsewhere. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000132\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222a74e684b2c84feba728019f684ec54a\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: Supplementary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000133\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c0f214ea852e4c6ba210de59807dad7b\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yep, but I just want to state again that I\u2019m not going to listen to that sort of general attempt to drown out anybody answering a question. Questions are asked in silence. They should be listened to respectfully.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000134\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bd5621f0c3c94a76b244230a4b340651\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: Thank you, sir. How many examples will it take for the Minister to admit that there are fewer people in emergency housing, not because the need has reduced but because he has stopped those in genuine need accessing emergency housing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000135\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e2d58d67be744c71919ee642bdeabd7d\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: As we are all aware, we are very proud of the steps that we\u2019ve taken to ensure that there\u2019s a reduction in the numbers of people living in emergency housing from over 7,000\u20147,000\u2014people in December 2023 to 1,131 at the end of December 2024. Now, we understand that there are some people doing it very tough, and we have ensured that there is a reset to deliver better public services and emergency housing. Those examples that the member has given\u2014we encourage him to work with those people to encourage them to work with our officials to ensure the appropriate support.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000136\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229eefec6abf27402fbf73290618beeb47\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: They tried. You shut them out. What a disgrace. You should be ashamed, Tama\u2014absolutely ashamed. They\u2019re on the street, man.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002297ff424e1781402aa8a82f663b004fc2\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Excuse me. You might be wanting to say those things, and you\u2019re entitled to say them, but at the right time and in the right context. I would ask, once again, that people refrain from what, effectively, is a form of heckling. I\u2019ve been very liberal on it. But quite clearly, the reaction to the last two days means that can no longer continue. So I\u2019m just giving fair warning that that sort of response is not going to be permitted moving forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000138\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00229bcdd8d74f7a4107aac6637d75da6b78\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 9\u2014Social Development and Employment\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022 data-id=\u0022d22dcc9915e0491a862e19501ce2235f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000139\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003E9. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d22dcc9915e0491a862e19501ce2235f\u0022\u003ESUZE REDMAYNE (National\u2014Rangit\u012Bkei)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Social Development and Employment: What reports has she seen on employment in New Zealand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022 data-id=\u002244cb9869beca4b3cb8d2ab2700514f48\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000140\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002244cb9869beca4b3cb8d2ab2700514f48\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON (Minister for Social Development and Employment):\u003C/span\u003E Stats NZ\u2019s monthly employment indicator released this week showed the number of filled jobs increased on a seasonally adjusted basis in December. This was the second month in a row of job growth, with more than 7,000 jobs added to the New Zealand economy during November and December. And it was encouraging to see the jobs picking up again were in\u00A0areas linked to international tourism, such as transport, hospitality, and recreational services. This followed the Ministry of Social Development\u2019s (MSD) latest quarterly benefit stats, which shows more than 33,000 people cancelled their jobseeker benefit because they found work in the second half of 2024, which is a 22 percent increase on the same six months in 2023.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000141\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ce4005c749fd4db9908a51a0185c2a35\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: How many more people on benefit is the question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000142\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f4c8f9a539874a74b38c07aaebd8fd65\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: When the House is quiet, the question can be asked.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000143\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d3d1ec96f3ad429d92c10707246cb8cd\u0022\u003ESuze Redmayne\u003C/span\u003E: What does the Government take from these numbers?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000144\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229e114e36382246a39fc29b1114cf4531\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: While it\u2019s a difficult time for those who are looking for work, we are cautiously optimistic that the labour market is on the verge of a revival, following years of low growth and rising unemployment that began in 2022. It is encouraging that our unemployment rate is sitting around the OECD average, at about 5 percent. It is clear that New Zealanders are still feeling the effects of years of wasteful Government spending that fuelled high interest rates, but they can take comfort that our Government\u2019s efforts to grow the economy, create more jobs, and reduce the number of people relying on jobseeker benefits is having a positive impact.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000145\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002209100c7462284221a0fc9f188f4a6652\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: More people on benefit; more people leaving the country.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000146\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227754cc647db04df9861c6e0e4995b511\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: We\u2019re waiting for the member to be quiet.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000147\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e7ab0266898a44868db9384d873ab211\u0022\u003ESuze Redmayne\u003C/span\u003E: Why is reducing the number of people on jobseeker benefits important?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000148\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fd6e20d7196a4306872e67619f5657b2\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: Because our Government understands that we cannot afford to have 12 percent of our working-age population relying on welfare. If we want to live in a country with rising incomes and more job opportunities, we need to get back to valuing work and self-responsibility. Under the last Government, the forecast for how long someone under the age of 25 would be on a benefit over their lifetime blew out to more than 20 years. If we don\u2019t act now, too many of our children will spend the bulk of their working lives on welfare, while the rest grow up contributing more and more of their earnings to support them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000149\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d06f295ef28b4d7897dd576800836eaa\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Question No. 10\u2014Kahurangi Carter\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000150\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ca141a7e59c54cc4a653c1e4338df71f\u0022\u003ESuze Redmayne\u003C/span\u003E: Supplementary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000151\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022890b836a71744771b41402250fee2ecf\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, you\u2019ve got to be fast out of the blocks, but OK, I\u2019ll allow it, but we\u2019ll get a short answer, I hope, because the last one was quite long.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000152\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257c0c650-e6a0-4475-b66d-5281ede8b1e3\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d26994ec30b9477fa0feef86ff7b7adc\u0022\u003ESuze Redmayne\u003C/span\u003E: What are the Government\u2019s plans to support more people on welfare into work?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000153\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022385173610a8b4591a7aaacd737b8660e\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: Our Welfare that Works reforms have already reset the benefit system, putting a greater focus on accountability and supporting people with the steps they need. This year, we will introduce even more changes designed to keep beneficiaries seeking employment, including new non-financial sanctions to keep beneficiaries taking reasonable steps to enter the workforce, and granting jobseeker support for six months at a time. We\u2019re gearing up the welfare system to make the most of the forecast improvement in economic growth by providing MSD with the tools and focus to reduce benefit dependency and support more people into work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000154\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c29468fba9404eafb5f22bd7c5fda98a\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 10\u2014Disability Issues\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227a31ee40-34c3-42b0-9459-7a7e9c815d6a\u0022 data-id=\u0022eace5bb94b384c5db0a21d2610fd5691\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000155\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a31ee40-34c3-42b0-9459-7a7e9c815d6a\u0022\u003E10. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022eace5bb94b384c5db0a21d2610fd5691\u0022\u003EKAHURANGI CARTER (Green)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister for Disability Issues: Does she accept that she has ministerial responsibility for advocating on disability issues?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022 data-id=\u00223e7486a2aef649d6857bcda9a0e8a2fc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000156\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223e7486a2aef649d6857bcda9a0e8a2fc\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON (Minister for Disability Issues):\u003C/span\u003E Yes. That is why we\u2019ve provided a record $1.1 billion funding boost to Disability Support Services in Budget 2024. It\u2019s also why we took immediate action to stabilise the disability support system. Our Government is determined to build a fair, sustainable, high-quality disability support system that delivers better outcomes for disabled people and their families.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000157\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a31ee40-34c3-42b0-9459-7a7e9c815d6a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022f87c9871d64a45439ae387ab392279d2\u0022\u003EKahurangi Carter\u003C/span\u003E: Has she advocated for disability issues to ensure that our core democratic processes, such as select committees, are accessible to all New Zealanders; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000158\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022709aa1dbc712431085dd4dd999d58b32\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: I recognise that for disabled New Zealanders there are significant challenges across accessing places of work or visits, including our Parliament, and I know that Speakers in previous years have provided greater access for New Zealanders with disabilities to participate in our democratic process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000159\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a31ee40-34c3-42b0-9459-7a7e9c815d6a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002204acebdfdae547dcb5792b3c9bb46275\u0022\u003EKahurangi Carter\u003C/span\u003E: Has she advocated for disability issues to ensure that the Government\u2019s no-cause eviction policy coming into effect today does not harm disabled people; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000160\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d7fc6543ebdb41329500270fd1ae7d38\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: There are a number of issues that are brought to the attention of Whaikaha, and we are building a work programme at the moment to ensure that disabled New Zealanders have greater access to employment, transport, housing, and a wide range of other areas.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000161\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a31ee40-34c3-42b0-9459-7a7e9c815d6a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022208f76359df644afaa9a6d251afc09a6\u0022\u003EKahurangi Carter\u003C/span\u003E: Did she advocate for disability issues when she brought in new benefit sanctions that will push more disabled people into unsuitable work and require disabled people on job seeker to reapply for their benefit twice as often; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000162\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c4c0afdb15f94553bdbe9fb48c23d226\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: I can absolutely say that the Minister for Disability Issues proudly advocates with the Minister for Social Development and Employment advocates, and they very much share the overwhelming desire to see more New Zealanders in employment, including disabled New Zealanders. I don\u2019t have any lower expectation that disabled people shouldn\u2019t be in work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000163\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a31ee40-34c3-42b0-9459-7a7e9c815d6a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c79836dfa8d3476dae18c86574c4f5db\u0022\u003EKahurangi Carter\u003C/span\u003E: Did she advocate for the 80 percent of young people who will be\u00A0eligible for being sent to a boot camp who have a mental illness or disability; if not, why not?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000164\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225e99a06ecd814eacbeba260f4e892e82\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: As I said, our Government is really proud about the fact that we want to see disabled New Zealanders participate and live fulfilling lives in employment, in education, in housing, and in moving about New Zealand in the way they should. Where there are challenges, we see that we will provide equal opportunities for them to get ahead and overcome the challenges they face.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000165\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a31ee40-34c3-42b0-9459-7a7e9c815d6a\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d897d54ab5c54d10944b43d8a72092f5\u0022\u003EKahurangi Carter\u003C/span\u003E: Can she tell the House what she has done to meaningfully engage with the disabled communities, such as responding to correspondence and attending events in her ministerial capacity?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000166\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a68928ea-9dd8-4a30-8e2c-a0f49dfc8bea\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221bcf587ecdb64aa0a59058bef64c5722\u0022\u003EHon LOUISE UPSTON\u003C/span\u003E: Absolutely. I have met with so many disabled people, families, and carers over the period of time I\u2019ve been the Minister, as well as with their organisations, the Disabled People\u2019s Organisations Coalition, and right now, just on Monday this week, new consultation has opened on the next recommendations of the review into Disability Support Services, so that we can improve access for disabled people. It opened on Monday. A consultation document is available. I\u2019d encourage that member, through her networks, to ensure that people who are accessing Disability Support Services participate in that consultation process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000167\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022b26acafe711a4a78856b2b55e41b0184\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 11\u2014Housing\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229188988b-e79b-4381-969a-982d0ebdb3ca\u0022 data-id=\u00223b71b168fa154b1c890b267a4ac87efb\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000168\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229188988b-e79b-4381-969a-982d0ebdb3ca\u0022\u003E11. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223b71b168fa154b1c890b267a4ac87efb\u0022\u003EPAULO GARCIA (National\u2014New Lynn)\u003C/span\u003E to the Associate Minister of Housing: What recent announcements has he made about emergency housing?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022 data-id=\u00226bed29661cb9421eab7343c133d84b51\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000169\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226bed29661cb9421eab7343c133d84b51\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA (Associate Minister of Housing):\u003C/span\u003E Large-scale, long-term use of emergency housing was a social, moral, and fiscal catastrophe. We campaigned on ending this cataclysmic situation. When we came into office, we set Target 8 to reduce the number of households in emergency housing motels by 75 percent by 2030; blue shoots, but this was achieved in 12 months. Furthermore, what this meant in reality is a reduction in people living in emergency housing from over 7,000 under the previous Government, to 1,130 today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000170\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229188988b-e79b-4381-969a-982d0ebdb3ca\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226ed1bc352812420e8d3874a49184821b\u0022\u003EPaulo Garcia\u003C/span\u003E: How have you achieved this target?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000171\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002277d3f319b64f4da6a79aaca694a8f378\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: It\u2019s amazing what can be achieved by doing the basics well: first, identify a target, Target 8; second, focus on policy primarily ensuring that children aren\u2019t growing up in emergency housing, Priority One; third, invest funding in Budget 2024 to support the target being delivered and to keep households out of emergency housing and support those in emergency housing to get out into more secure housing.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000172\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d144814cc7dc49a18a4efdb6bbf6bf35\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: To save money\u2014that\u2019s all this is about: saving money.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000173\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227656f3f8c46642f09b631934428c6390\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Just a moment. For the balance of this question, the answers will be heard in silence.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000174\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229188988b-e79b-4381-969a-982d0ebdb3ca\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225da9448d0cb144649ad4f6744b1a7ebc\u0022\u003EPaulo Garcia\u003C/span\u003E: Where are the people who have left emergency housing going?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000175\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022017a4e61a3f3415785f9af0459fcd723\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: When we came into Government, we knew where there were around five out of 10 households\u2014where they were going; we now know where over eight out of 10 households are going once they exit emergency housing. We also know that over 900 households, with nearly 2,000 tamariki, have gone into social housing as a result of Priority One. They are no longer contained in dark, dank emergency housing on places like Ulster Street in Hamilton and Fenton Street in Rotorua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000176\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227bdeb610b5b7470faec9560364178f18\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Now they\u2019re in cars.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000177\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e97aa3d5199e4876b6950e9cd7d5edaf\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: Officials are continuing to improve their insights on this matter.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000178\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022af55e0c91b3544e59a744f882bb0976c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Was there some aspect of what I had previously said that the member on the end of the front row did not understand?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000179\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229188988b-e79b-4381-969a-982d0ebdb3ca\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226580042137bc4118aa0aa3e40e36dd7c\u0022\u003EPaulo Garcia\u003C/span\u003E: What are your plans now that you\u2019ve achieved this target?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000180\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fc977df2cfe64d0b94f125a37336b4f2\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: Blue shoots\u2014this mahi\u2019s just started, and there\u2019s a lot more to do. We will continue to focus on maintaining performance against the target, keep actively monitoring and reporting on the target to ensure that these gains are sustainable. I\u2019m proud of the start that we\u2019ve made to get people out of emergency housing, but there\u2019s a lot more mahi to do, particularly with those who are continuing to live in very difficult situations. Kia\u00A0ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000181\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022f968ec18adbb4e72a1a67221e579fd4c\u0022\u003EQuestion No. 12\u2014Immigration\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022 data-id=\u0022c5979841bc464b8686f855afe72a0f95\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000182\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E12. \u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c5979841bc464b8686f855afe72a0f95\u0022\u003EHon PHIL TWYFORD (Labour\u2014Te Atat\u016B)\u003C/span\u003E to the Minister of Immigration: Did she direct her officials to ensure Pacific labour-sending countries were consulted before the changes to the Recognised Seasonal Employer scheme were announced in August last year?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022 data-id=\u0022cbb981698c0d4702b76740902582c198\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000183\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022cbb981698c0d4702b76740902582c198\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP (Minister of Housing)\u003C/span\u003E on behalf of the Minister of Immigration: From my recollection of conversations at the time, I directed my officials to ensure that the Pacific Recognised Seasonal Employer (RSE) countries were advised of the changes before they were publicly announced. Due to a miscommunication between officials, this did not happen. An apology for this was communicated to representatives of the relevant countries. Our relationship with our Pacific partners is a significant and important one and it was not acceptable that they found out about the changes through the media. I have been clear with my immigration officials that we need to ensure this does not occur with regard to any future changes to the scheme.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000184\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220517f9a9480649d1ab0a5d9fe7802e2e\u0022\u003EHon Phil Twyford\u003C/span\u003E: How is informing Pacific Governments of a decision that is already made consultation and not just a heads-up?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000185\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c3a88c42-f60b-4cf9-8065-8bfb80a020eb\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002245c64ee525c2410ba0990ef45884f178\u0022\u003EHon Carmel Sepuloni\u003C/span\u003E: It\u2019s a good question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000186\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222521bbdc4edf4af7b7cf6ab1b31d1db8\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: Well, it is a good question, but here\u2019s a good answer.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000187\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002237a99b65-4919-4800-830d-3dd7c920d5cd\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002257a6ed93817940c08607d6bdd54a1d5d\u0022\u003EHon Dr Megan Woods\u003C/span\u003E: Is this on behalf of the Minister?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000188\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220e89088b30d14fdda806b4d573c491e9\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, I am advised that in 2023 the previous Government advised Pacific RSE countries one hour before the announcement was made. I am further advised that in 2021 the previous Government did not consult Pacific countries at all before the announcements were made.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000189\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022e37376d502424d1daf96975838d461cb\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. Taking into account your guidance to the House previously, that was a straight question, and the answer had nothing to do with what this Government has done\u2014not mentioned once. The answer was simply about what that Minister viewed the previous Government do to. Now, I\u2019m not coming at this, as you may see, as a sensitive position. This isn\u2019t compliant with what\u2019s required. [Interruption]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000190\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222d090bd5a4214ad8bbca65f118b6835d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Excuse me. Someone will leave the House if there\u2019s an outburst during a point of order.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000191\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c3107df737e6486a8404babb45d3f29f\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: My point in its most basic form is that question was not addressed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000192\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221305f8b7aa744a27969c3d6e3d6b2c07\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Well, I think if you were to have a look at Speakers\u2019 ruling 180/4, you might find that it is not unreasonable for someone to answer a question in relation to previous Government actions, particularly if it\u2019s relating to a question about their action in the same area. Is there another supplementary?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000193\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222a682c10c8544c05abcd6599fa6f900d\u0022\u003EHon Phil Twyford\u003C/span\u003E: There is. Does she accept that the failure to consult on policies that reduce the benefits Pacific countries get from the Recognised Seasonal Employer scheme risks damaging our relationship with our Pacific partners?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000194\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226b3204539db04bdeb5c28b1ed37f1c62\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: I don\u2019t think it risks damaging the relationship, but, on behalf of the Minister, it is definitely true that Pacific RSE countries should have been informed of Cabinet\u2019s decision. That did not take place and apology for this has been communicated to representatives of the relevant countries. As I said in my primary answer, our relationship with the Pacific is very important.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000195\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00223d49aeac-8adf-497b-9400-ab7bb077bb8d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bc1a29aec8a14afdb8ce0078c1b35cbc\u0022\u003ERt Hon Winston Peters\u003C/span\u003E: In terms of consultation, can the Minister confirm that despite that, foreign affairs was in constant contact with the relevant Pacific Island countries in 2024, and on the issue of the Recognised Seasonal Employment scheme\u2014something started by you know who in 2007\u2014and so in that context they were being brought up to date all the time\u2014oh, and one thing: having never heard from anybody from foreign affairs in the three years before that?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000196\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bf396b25b9a44b0999a673feb525e66d\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, I think the member asking the question knows more about foreign affairs than I do, so I will take his word for it. But it is definitely true to say that the Minister of Foreign Affairs has been an extremely active foreign Minister in the Pacific, rebuilding those very important international relationships.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000197\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002268b9f1f1760b4a6fb08ec36550f78cb6\u0022\u003EHon Phil Twyford\u003C/span\u003E: Was the failure to consult Pacific Governments before the announcement the fault of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, as she told the select committee yesterday?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000198\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00226638cdcb7f524d67a98156ad564b83f3\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, collectively, ministry officials across Government did not do as the Minister made clear. However, I would contrast the regrettable situation that happened in relation to 2024 with the actions of the previous Government on two occasions when once they were never told at all and the other time they found out an hour before.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000199\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cbc37df2-57ae-4536-94ed-a2e39eecd585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002201855fcefbd54c3a826f7c88ee58b4b4\u0022\u003EHon Phil Twyford\u003C/span\u003E: On what date did she direct her officials to ensure that there was consultation with Pacific Governments on cutting the pay of RSE workers?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000200\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002257e41e9d-285b-4fb3-847d-a63820ae7137\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022613831d8341445cbaeff4e15751fd6a1\u0022\u003EHon CHRIS BISHOP\u003C/span\u003E: On behalf of the Minister, I don\u2019t have the specific day and time. If the member wants to know that, he can put it down in a written question. The decision was announced in August last year. So interpolating from the facts as I understand it, it would have been around that time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000201\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225ac6c48049ef4a5f9fee60d7843bb429\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I took your advice and looked up the Speaker\u2019s ruling that you mentioned. I think there might be a misunderstanding. That\u2019s about questions to chairpersons of select committee. Could you clarify which one you\u2019d like me to look at, please?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000202\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022dab3c8f0e7d54d30b082aef77d1575c2\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, that is the one. The distinction between chairperson of a select committee and\u2014well, the actual point is there are Speakers\u2019 rulings from both Speaker Smith and Speaker Mallard and they are the rulings. A Government cannot be constrained from mentioning matters to do with a previous Government if it relates to questioning that they are currently undertaking. And if that\u2019s a new ruling, it\u2019s a new ruling, but that\u2019s the way I see it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000203\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a1f7bbd1-b6ae-41c0-963b-dbe1251f5540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d1da184a1629472fbb74f25ddad4c1be\u0022\u003EHon Kieran McAnulty\u003C/span\u003E: I just wanted to know which one you were referring to\u2014that\u2019s all. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225261e7eaeef24088979ae1c1bc857d96\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That brings to an end oral questions, and we move now to Government orders of the day. I might just take a short pause while those who have to leave the House are able to do so rapidly, quietly, and without discussion.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000206\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cbr\u003E\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000207\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u002282ae1099322f4ab7a04a65c098ebe6ff\u0022\u003EDebate on Prime Minister\u2019s Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224b9b965af10c416887d6e7c90a2caa98\u0022\u003EDebate on Prime Minister\u2019s Statement\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000208\u0022\u003EDebate resumed from 29 January.\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022 data-id=\u0022494c55c5010045acb426a7771633fae0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000210\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022494c55c5010045acb426a7771633fae0\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA (Minister of Conservation):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau e hui nei me ng\u0101 t\u0101tarakihi o t\u014D t\u0101tau atanga k\u014Dhatu. Maunga Taranaki, Taranaki Maunga, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou te kake mai m\u014D t\u0113nei r\u0101 whakahirahira. Te hunga ngaro, haere atu r\u0101, k\u0101piti ki a t\u0101tou e hui tahi nei.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000211\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E[Greetings to us gathered here with the offspring of the glorious rock, Mount Taranaki, Taranaki Maunga, greetings to you who have come here on this great day. To the departed, farewell, together with those of us who are assembled here.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000212\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ETwelve months ago, the Prime Minister delivered his first state of the nation speech and asserted Aotearoa New Zealand as the best country on this side of Papat\u016B\u0101nuku\u2014planet Earth\u2014and any other planet, for that matter. When he wakes in the morning, he\u2019s thinking about the country we are going to create for our own tamariki and mokomoko to live in. We won\u2019t shy away from the challenges that have arisen like rain clouds hung over a storm that hung over our incoming Government: rampant inflation; out-of-control interest rates, with the highest level in more than a decade putting more pressure on wh\u0101nau throughout the country. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000213\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe Prime Minister made it clear that we will be making tough choices. Tough choices would be made to set us on a path of economic growth to improve the lives of M\u0101ori and, indeed, all New Zealanders. We won\u2019t wait 16 years and we\u2019ve started to deliver some progress well within 16 months: growth, forecast to reach over 2 percent in 2025; business and consumer confidence rising, with average mortgage interest rates falling for the first time in over three years; and wh\u0101nau seeing key reforms in housing, infrastructure, health and safety laws, and planning rules that will drive productivity and empower local businesses.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000214\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s primarily through strong economic growth that we will need to lift incomes, deliver quality public services, and improve equality of opportunity and equal citizenship for M\u0101ori. Many cohorts of M\u0101ori have disproportionate challenges with health, housing, and education.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000215\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ENational-led Governments in the past have worked very hard to deliver better outcomes for M\u0101ori and all New Zealanders. And on Treaty issues, we started the process 30 years ago with the historic Tainui settlement in Waikato and have negotiated many, many settlements since then. We need to crack on and deliver more of those. In the last year, we have advanced eight Treaty settlements with the stewardship of Minister Metek\u014Dura Goldsmith and I look forward soon to delivering the \u014C-R\u0101kau bill, which will return the land to the t\u012Bpuna and iwi at \u014C-R\u0101kau and those that fought there. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000216\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ECompleting Treaty settlements is a priority for this K\u0101wanatanga. They\u2019re critical to help facilitate the future prosperity of iwi, hap\u016B, and all New Zealanders. You can see, in Waikato, in particular, Kirikiriroa, the amazing work that Waikato-Tainui have been doing not only to support the growth, health, wealth, and wellbeing of their own people but also of the entire region and the entire country\u2014amazing potential.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000217\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThink about this: it is reported that the economic delta, the difference of the M\u0101ori dimensions of the New Zealand economy compared to the rest of the New Zealand economy is around 60 percent on both a revenue per capita indicator and an asset per capita indicator. If we get to equality of opportunity, that amounts to a nearly $40 billion gap in revenue and a nearly $140 billion asset gap. Narrowing this delta, this economic delta, in our view will contribute significantly to M\u0101ori household incomes and the productivity of iwi and M\u0101ori assets and to tax revenue, and reduce spending on welfare and social services. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000218\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EWe aim to facilitate better conditions for M\u0101ori economic growth using levers that align with improving GDP per capita and reducing legislative and regulatory burdens; in places like M\u0101ori land, improving the legislation, facilitating change there and helping with better productivity; effectively engaging with more iwi and M\u0101ori organisations and businesses who seek to make a massive contribution to the infrastructure re-imagination in New Zealand; and, of course, the productivity of iwi- and M\u0101ori-owned businesses, particularly in high-export markets.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000219\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EWe are on the right path to supporting growth. As we know, over 20 significant iwi- or M\u0101ori-led partner projects are in the fast-track process, spanning a variety of industries that will help rebuild the economy, boost renewable energy, grow infrastructure, develop aquaculture and mining, and build homes to fix the housing crisis\u2014like the Beachlands South development, which many of our whanaunga iwi who are here today are invested in out on the coast from Clevedon; the Muriwhenua aquaculture project up in Te Tai Tokerau, involving many of the Te Hiku area iwi; the Ng\u0101ti Waewae housing project in Arahura; and the Ng\u0101i Tahu industrial land development in Christchurch\u2014all part of the fast-track process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000220\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EWe seek to facilitate better conditions for boosting that economic growth and will fire up Aotearoa New Zealand to be a small leading advanced nation with greater equality of opportunity. We will not achieve that if we don\u2019t support M\u0101ori economic growth in a prudent, reasonable, and absolutely passionate manner. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000221\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EWe\u2019re going to cut through red tape, make it easier to hire, expand, or launch new ventures, and I\u2019ve got Minister Bayly who\u2019s really focused on doing that in the Companies Act. We\u2019re also seeking to grow partnerships in the housing space and recently announced $82 million in addition for housing projects across the motu, some of which are led by very close whanaunga of ours\u2014for example, the whanaunga brother of the member for Te Tair\u0101whiti, Patrick Tangaere, and George Reedy on the East Coast doing some housing down at Kaiti. Kia ora. Thank you. Our Going for Housing Growth plan will see affordable homes to be built, planning rules simplified, and major projects fast-tracked.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000222\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EWe also know that a lot of wh\u0101nau continue to do it very tough under the cost of living crisis we\u2019ve inherited, and M\u0101ori are disproportionately affected by that. It\u2019s our responsibility as the Government, as representatives of regions and people throughout this country to grow equality of opportunity and equal citizenship for wh\u0101nau and for M\u0101ori. This year, we\u2019ll continue to implement the social investment approach under the wise guidance of Minita Willis, Manu P\u016Btea, to drive better results for Government\u2019s investment in social services and improving outcomes for wh\u0101nau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000223\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EGrowing equality of opportunity means working harder to break cycles of disadvantage, more hard evidence, more power in the hands of communities, and a much clearer focus on outcomes for money spent. It means taking a harder look at education and employment and committing ourselves to ambitious targets to do better. For example, we know that many, many of our young people, our tamariki, find it hard to go to school. The attendance rate\u201440 percent of tamariki M\u0101ori didn\u2019t make it to school regularly last year. But we do know that in some instances and some examples, like Te Wharekura o Kirikiriroa in Hamilton, they have an amazing attendance rate\u2014over 80 percent regular. This is in a decile 1 school over on Enderley near Five Cross Roads. Phenomenal.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000224\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EWe also know when we came to office, thousands of wh\u0101nau members were living in dank, dark emergency housing, and we\u2019ve worked very hard to ensure that tamariki and mokopuna come out of that housing, particularly those that have been there for 12 weeks or more. We\u2019ve seen, after making decisions and really focusing ourselves on action, that nearly 3,000 tamariki have come out of emergency housing in the last 12 months. I think that\u2019s progress. That\u2019s what I think. Others, they just like to make catcalls and criticisms, but I think that\u2019s progress.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000225\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EGrowing equality of opportunity\u2014we need to support our m\u0101hita, our kaiako, and kura, and we\u2019ve done that by helping with introducing a clearer curriculum, a better approach to structured literacy and numeracy under the Manu M\u0101tauranga Erica Stanford, a smarter assessment in reporting, and improved teacher training. This has been rolled out in phases, of course. Starting in term 1 this year, schools and kura will teach the updated English and te reo rangatira curriculum grounded in evidence-based structured literacy. These are our future rangatira and we are here to tautoko them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000226\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EI look forward to the reopening, reimagination, and restart of Tipene, St Stephen\u2019s, in Bombay on 6 February next week, and the mahi that Nathan Durie and Yvette McCausland-Durie have been undertaking over many years with the stewardship of Joe Harawira and others\u2014Awi Riddell; haere atu r\u0101\u2014to ensure that that kura comes back into action.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000227\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EGrowing equality of opportunity means that when our tamariki and mokopuna graduate, we\u2019ve created the right economic conditions for them to gain employment, own a business, earn a decent income, and set the course for their lives. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000228\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe challenge, or one of the challenges, we face when we talk about the equality of opportunities to equal citizenship is the social delta that exists between\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000229\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223fdc3fd788514291bc885a33e3b2b07a\u0022\u003EHon Willie Jackson\u003C/span\u003E: What does that mean?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000230\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002250951364a95e4713b5232f4fe9f2332e\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014our communities and the rest of New Zealand. What that means, for the member from\u2014oh, no; I don\u2019t think he actually represents the region, but what that means is that there is a difference of around $2.5 million to $5 million per annum if we move the income of M\u0101ori from here to the average income of the rest of New Zealand.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000231\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ENow, that is worth fighting for, because that enables our wh\u0101nau to make careful choices about their health and wellbeing, their enterprise, their education, and a whole range of other matters. But ensuring that our wh\u0101nau, our tamariki, our mokopuna are engaged in education, whether it be m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori or some other m\u0101tauranga, is very important to narrow that delta.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000232\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EWe have potential. Actually, we\u2019ve delivered on potential. We only have to go to places like Hamilton\u2014Willie, you\u2019re allowed to come here sometimes. We\u2019re right in the middle of the Asia-Pacific, a liberal democracy with well-established institutions. We\u2019re a vibrant, multicultural, multi-iwi nation, actually, and we will build strong on our bicultural foundations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000233\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EAs I said earlier on, toit\u016B Te Tiriti, ehara i te mea toit\u016B te reo o t\u014D t\u0101tau hoa a Willie. [maintain Te Tiriti, but I do not mean to say maintain the language of our mate, Willie.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000234\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe Government can\u2019t do this alone, and it\u2019s actually not just for us. It\u2019s actually for everyone to work together in that kotahitanga moment to bring the success of our mahi tahi and our kotahitanga under the Treaty together. Ng\u0101 mihi ki a t\u0101tou katoa. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u0022e26087b5b093462abb18e009828ccb2e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000235\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e26087b5b093462abb18e009828ccb2e\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Oh, he got a clap\u2014he got a clap. Mihi ana ki ng\u0101 whanaunga kua tae mai nei i t\u0113nei w\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tau katoa. [I acknowledge the many kinspeople who have arrived here today, greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000236\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI suppose a lot of people will be wondering what we\u2019re talking about here. We\u2019re talking about a response to the Prime Minister\u2019s speech, and that was all lovely stuff from the Minister for M\u0101ori Development. The question I\u2019ve got from us is: why didn\u2019t the Prime Minister say one thing about M\u0101ori? Like, just one thing\u2014one thing! He didn\u2019t even mention the word \u201CM\u0101ori\u201D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000237\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EHere we had this charismatic, exciting Minister for M\u0101ori Development trotting out his boring speech that has been written by his researchers. Couldn\u2019t get off his notes. I was thinking about it, and I thought I\u2019m not going to read my speech today\u2014I\u2019m not going to read my speech today\u2014because after hearing that boring speech, I was thinking \u201CWhy didn\u2019t the Prime Minister mention M\u0101ori?\u201D Well, there you go, his M\u0101ori MPs. I mean, as everyone knows, I\u2019m not a person to get too personal in the House here! But I need to take a little bit of time here, because a lot of our people are here and they want to know who\u2019s representing them, who their representatives in Government are, so I thought I might just introduce them, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000238\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWe have MacLeod over there\u2014and I\u2019ve got to take it easy. I know he\u2019s got a few aunties up in the audience there. I want to congratulate him because he\u2019s just been promoted to the chair of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. Well done, and if you can remember to clear your campaign expenses at the next election, you might actually become a Minister. He\u2019s a promising individual\u2014$186,000 in debt, but never mind. He replaced my friend\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000239\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022514a3562dfe54401acc8c13a9b8b31f7\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, I\u2019m going to stop the member there and remind him of the comment he made earlier in his speech that he doesn\u2019t get involved in this sort of personal politics that so many others do\u2014so I\u2019ll hold him to that. We are debating, as he said, for this House to understand the Prime Minister\u2019s statement and I want to hear his response to that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000240\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022705cb4896f784d2898376adeaa8ae1a6\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Well, my response to the statement is this. Why didn\u2019t the Prime Minister talk about M\u0101ori things?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000241\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWhat I\u2019m saying today is: look at who his M\u0101ori MPs are. Now, we\u2019re looking over there at Mr MacLeod, and he replaced my good friend Dan Bidois. I mean, he\u2019s so promising and I think he\u2019s one of the best young M\u0101ori MPs around. I want to apologise to Mr Bidois today, because I think I called him an Italian once and he was a Frenchman. But I know he\u2019s got a big future\u2014I know he\u2019s got a big future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000242\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EShane Reti is not here, though. He is the most principled of the M\u0101ori MPs\u2014of that there is no doubt\u2014because he didn\u2019t want to deliver this Government\u2019s terrible Health budget: underfunding, under-resourcing this country. Shane Reti is one of the best\u2014one of the best\u2014and I want to mihi to him today. I haven\u2019t had a chance to wish him all the very best.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000243\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EBut hey, there\u2019s help on the way, because we have a young brown hope and he\u2019s the new Minister for the South Island. He might be able to help you out, Mr Speaker. His name is\u2014what is his name? James Meager. He\u2019s a good man, James. I congratulated him. I was really proud of James, you know. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000244\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225cd78f4a555d4bfe9048599644edfc52\u0022\u003ERawiri Waititi\u003C/span\u003E: H\u0113mi\u2014James. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000245\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022489ee9e144e04a4c8442c36b13a8c12b\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Eh? No, I interviewed him and I think there\u2019s a lot of hope for M\u0101ori. I think there\u2019s a lot of hope for M\u0101ori in the National Party, because when he was interviewed, James was interviewed by a real young, brilliant interviewer. I think his name was Hikurangi Jackson or something! Anyway, he was interviewed by this brilliant young interviewer. And when James was asked what\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000246\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00220f7d126e-c18d-4466-9ebe-d424ae5c4bf6\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c161f4f7c1d84db8b03b4ebbf12a73c9\u0022\u003ERawiri Waititi\u003C/span\u003E: Matt Doocey\u2019s the best M\u0101ori over there!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000247\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b4b8b4ab8aec49d6a755da8ae48fee30\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: No, Rawiri, listen. When James was asked, \u201CWhat\u2019s it like to be M\u0101ori?\u201D\u2014you know, what\u2019s being M\u0101ori to you, what does that mean\u2014James\u2019 response was, \u201CWell, I don\u2019t know but I\u2019ll check in my diary later on and, and I\u2019ll work that into my schedule.\u201D He\u2019s going to go right to the top. That boy could be the Prime Minister of the National Party. With that sort of response, there\u2019s no doubt he\u2019s got a big future in the National Party! I do wish James Meager\u2014I\u2019m serious. I told him to have a listen in today. He\u2019s a good young man. All the best to him.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000248\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWithout doubt the shining star of this National Party is the one and only Tama Potaka; there\u2019s no doubt about it. Minister Potaka\u2014you know, he\u2019s trying his best, but, as you heard today, he\u2019s about as exciting as a rock, and one day he\u2019s going to have to learn to come off those notes. I see my old friend Mahara Okeroa here; he knows about this sort of stuff. He needs to talk to Mahara. He\u2019s got a bit of charisma, a bit of excitement. I think the Minister\u2019s problem is some of his mates\u2014I was thinking Jamie Tuuta, Julian Wilcox, Che Wilson\u2014maybe that\u2019s the problem, Minister, in terms of what you\u2019re doing at the moment. But I just want to wish all these people, all these M\u0101ori, all the best. That\u2019s what our people are looking at today. No wonder the Prime Minister didn\u2019t mention M\u0101ori in his speech.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000249\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EFrom a serious perspective, there\u2019s one M\u0101ori who deserves a mention today, and that is, of course, Mr Potaka\u2019s very good friend David Seymour. It is a shame on this Prime Minister and a disgrace in terms of this Government that they haven\u2019t put him in line. He deserves to be straightened out. I am so proud of our people and all New Zealanders who are coming forward in terms of these Treaty submissions. And we have a Prime Minister who doesn\u2019t mention the Treaty principles in his speech; all he can say is, \u201CWe\u2019re the \u2018yes\u2019 Government\u2014we\u2019re the \u2018yes\u2019 Government.\u201D Why doesn\u2019t he just put David Seymour in line? We think that Seymour\u2019s either wilfully blind or wilfully deaf because he consistently says \u201CI don\u2019t know what they\u2019re talking about. Can someone explain it to me?\u201D Hundreds, thousands of people are explaining it to him. They are saying very clearly \u201CYou are trying to break the special relationship that M\u0101ori had with the Crown. You are trying to break article 2 rights.\u201D It\u2019s as simple as that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000250\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EThose are not special rights. Those are not privileged rights\u2014our people are not privileged. If we were privileged, we wouldn\u2019t die seven years earlier than everyone else. If we were privileged, we wouldn\u2019t be 50 percent of the prison population. If we were privileged, we wouldn\u2019t be three times more unemployed than P\u0101keh\u0101 people. This rubbish\u2014this lie\u2014about us being a special privileged people must stop, and it\u2019s the Prime Minister\u2019s job to get this ACT Party in line. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000251\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s the Prime Minister\u2019s job to support our people. When 60,000-plus people\u2014it might be 80,000\u2014turn up at this Parliament, what is the response from the Prime Minister in his speech? Nothing. Not a word in terms of M\u0101ori\u2014not a word in terms of M\u0101ori. Nothing about what Seymour is doing. He is not managing a coalition. That is his responsibility, that is his obligation, and Seymour is causing mayhem out there. I\u2019m proud\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000252\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022bca9d3d891c14231b46fa77b0441d915\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Remember that there are rules about\u2014you use the member\u2019s full name, not just the\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000253\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022871be94db3f145b385ea7da3c3ca930e\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: David Seymour, Mr Speaker\u2014David Seymour. Tama Potaka\u2019s a good friend and relation! There is an obligation\u2014[Interruption] I\u2019m sure you\u2019d concur with me, Mr Speaker\u2014a bit of decorum, please. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000254\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220df4a89b6e7944e6a823236218956497\u0022\u003EHon Tama Potaka\u003C/span\u003E: Point of order, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000255\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b0d60fdaa65047b0b3f7f8694ebf8ec4\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, now he\u2019s getting all touchy and sensitive\u2014oh my, e noho. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000256\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022ee94e6a73bba4e838d32b874e0c9e1a9\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Whoa! Before I take the point of order from the Hon Tama Potaka, can I just explain to the gallery that the rules are that the gallery can\u2019t participate in the debate. I understand that people will involuntarily laugh at something that\u2019s found to be humorous, but please don\u2019t comment back. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000257\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002215cc91cf302f449a992938a1daab5bdf\u0022\u003EHon Tama Potaka\u003C/span\u003E: The allegation of a relationship that is completely fallacious should be rescinded.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000258\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022aba2b3125db94a5db841092bd8c1c565\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Yeah, I think that\u2019s a fair comment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000259\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022a2a7ad39e3084e339ac2fc7a6d3d203f\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: OK, OK. I don\u2019t want to really upset the Minister, but can I say there is an obligation on\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000260\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022d09229d18fc843bcbd33e323a4249f84\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Just\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000261\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022167f58a1b15d4475b5dadc6c04d513ee\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: I\u2019m coming back to the Prime Minister\u2019s speech\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000262\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00220d37c499cce048b989794a3a09f02341\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Hang on\u2014whoa, whoa! Just withdraw, and then we\u2019ve got it all tight\u2014yeah.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000263\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225341b30edd884e00b78ca5c4375985a1\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, withdraw, and apologise too\u2014do you want me to? I apologise to my good friend the Minister; I know he\u2019s a sensitive soul.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000264\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI really need just to come back in my last couple of minutes to this Prime Minister\u2019s speech being so important, so crucial. We want some leadership here. We want him to manage the coalition. We want him to manage the ACT Party, who are causing mayhem out there in terms of New Zealanders at the moment. I\u2019m so proud of all our people who are rolling up\u2014wonderful submissions from people like Ani Mikaere; Kiritapu Allan this morning did a great submission, really, really good; Chris Finlayson\u2014you know, right across the spectrum, we\u2019re getting these wonderful submissions. Get them in line, and get your New Zealand First mates in line, Mr Speaker. They\u2019re causing mayhem right now. They\u2019re running a\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000265\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c3ce5e0978b146d89e6be0ec58ca2d6d\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: No, hang on\u2014whoa, whoa, whoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000266\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00224d66ca59219a4b49a4956ec0e1557420\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: They\u2019re not causing mayhem? OK. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000267\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022cac179074c4a4206b9fbdf50be40a016\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: You know that I don\u2019t take a political position. I even consider you a friend, so for goodness\u2019 sake, don\u2019t start.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000268\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002226fbf7525c1d4cca838af1c250de17c7\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: But we want a Prime Minister to manage and to organise. He calls them the \u201Cyes\u201D\u2014\u201CWe are the \u2018yes\u2019 party.\u201D Well, we know this. It\u2019s yes to the tobacco companies, right? It\u2019s yes to the lobbyists. Who else is it a yes to? It\u2019s yes to anything that ACT and the New Zealand First Party\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000269\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002270922799e41f41ff844c92e956887159\u0022\u003EHon Member\u003C/span\u003E: Landlords.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000270\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022445fc75679854be28e43c5d117831bd6\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: \u2014to landlords\u2014but, most of all, what we\u2019ve heard lately is that it\u2019s yes to privatisation. That\u2019s what this Prime Minister\u2019s said, and he\u2019s saying \u201COh no, not in this term.\u201D We know more than anyone how bad that can go. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000271\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWe will never go down that track, and we need a Prime Minister who will stand up and say no to privatisation, who will support New Zealanders, and who will support hard-working Kiwis right across the spectrum, who are in fear of that type of policy. We have seen Rogernomics in H\u0101wera, we\u2019ve seen it in P\u0101tea, we\u2019ve seen it in Porirua, and we\u2019ve seen it in M\u0101ngere\u2014New Zealanders struggling. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000272\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWe ask the Prime Minister on this day to stand up, not just for M\u0101ori, but for all New\u00A0Zealanders. Now\u2019s the time. Labour absolutely opposes this Government. Kia ora, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022 data-id=\u0022bfbdf0b907d1481ca0cad65ee62282d0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000273\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bfbdf0b907d1481ca0cad65ee62282d0\u0022\u003EHon SIMON WATTS (Minister of Revenue):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That this debate be now adjourned.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000274\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000275\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022713ccc5b-7ff0-4fa5-ab58-4780620184fe\u0022\u003EDebate interrupted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000276\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e2ea8abc34f749fb8535bc338d05c263\u0022\u003EAppointments\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000277\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00225902e6c395e64827b4b86e2ccbdd5dbf\u0022\u003ERepresentation Commission\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u00226e8bc9c12d5e425082fee6eb9ded86c5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000278\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226e8bc9c12d5e425082fee6eb9ded86c5\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister of Justice):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That, under section 28(3)(b) of the Electoral Act 1993, for the purpose of determining the boundaries of the M\u0101ori electoral districts, this House nominate Derek Tinia Fox of Opoutama to be appointed as a member of the Representation Commission representing the Opposition.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000279\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000280\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u0022c127c793ea5f4102998c23cf603da842\u0022\u003ETe Pire Whakatupua m\u014D Te K\u0101hui Tupua/Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000281\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e73c9418626b45ceaebb15f4bd5784e4\u0022\u003ESecond Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u0022674692b725e54102ae041cf0af63d0ae\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000282\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022674692b725e54102ae041cf0af63d0ae\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I move, That the Te Pire Whakatupua m\u014D Te K\u0101hui Tupua/Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill be now read a second time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000283\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000284\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EBill read a second time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000285\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00229de66f105c174cbeae82d39a50f80229\u0022\u003EInstruction to Committee\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u0022f70114f1cfe6417c9f0840ec82e72a24\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000286\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f70114f1cfe6417c9f0840ec82e72a24\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E Point of order, Mr Speaker. I seek leave of the House, despite the determination of the Business Committee, for it to form a committee of the whole House immediately to consider the tabled amendment in my name, which addresses some technical cross-reference changes, and to debate the bill as one question.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022166f39011fcb47ef84bcb4e731ce94f2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000287\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022166f39011fcb47ef84bcb4e731ce94f2\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any objection? There is none. I declare the House in committee for consideration of the bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000288\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00221fe6bf9736154c33b00edb57ddad9b30\u0022\u003EIn Committee\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000289\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022db66bde72689484cb1eb71796570e601\u0022\u003EParts 1 to 9\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000290\u0022\u003E, Schedules 1 to 5, and clauses 1 and 2\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u0022bc075399b7ac4032a7db483db3fbefa0\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000291\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bc075399b7ac4032a7db483db3fbefa0\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Barbara Kuriger)\u003C/span\u003E: Members, the House is in committee on Te Pire Whakatupua m\u014D Te K\u0101hui Tupua/Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill. The House has resolved to form a committee of the whole House to consider a tabled amendment in the Minister\u2019s name and to debate the bill as one question. The question is that Parts 1 to 9, Schedules 1 to 5, and clauses 1 and 2 stand part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u0022617f33c136484fbb89631ee16da8ff6e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000292\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022617f33c136484fbb89631ee16da8ff6e\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E The Parliamentary Council Office, through quality assurance processes, identified seven incorrect cross references within Te Pire Whakatupua m\u014D Te K\u0101hui Tupua/Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill\u2014for example, where a reference to section 86(3) was intended to be section 87(3). The tabled amendment corrects these minor and technical drafting errors.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022 data-id=\u00229a2dca27803f4a63a9a82f9b12100ffe\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000293\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00229a2dca27803f4a63a9a82f9b12100ffe\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Barbara Kuriger)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that the Minister\u2019s tabled amendments be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000294\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EAmendments agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp 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id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000298\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00222af5b726e32940caac62a5459d4c5e97\u0022\u003ECHAIRPERSON (Barbara Kuriger)\u003C/span\u003E: Mr Speaker, the committee has considered Te Pire Whakatupua m\u014D Te K\u0101hui Tupua/Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill and reports it with amendment.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000299\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000300\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003EReport adopted. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022e9254c08d4c8418c8139907ce375ba65\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000301\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e9254c08d4c8418c8139907ce375ba65\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: In accordance with a determination of the Business Committee, the bill is set down for third reading immediately.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000302\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00228f09a7df51e74cfcbf36ca623e689c70\u0022\u003EThird Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022 data-id=\u0022ac9eb1dc4aee43c0bfb3367e6504062e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000303\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ac9eb1dc4aee43c0bfb3367e6504062e\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH (Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations):\u003C/span\u003E I present a legislative statement on Te Pire Whakatupua m\u014D Te K\u0101hui Tupua/Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000304\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221038f5d2b8eb4839a42dae8bc7128e84\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That legislative statement is published under the authority of the House and can be found on the parliamentary website.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000305\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00223615ef0bdc4d4599bf7f4e70593d6ec3\u0022\u003EHon PAUL GOLDSMITH\u003C/span\u003E: I move, That Te Pire Whakatupua m\u014D Te K\u0101hui Tupua/Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill be now read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000306\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ETaranaki Maunga, Taranaki whenua, Taranaki t\u0101ngata, ng\u0101 iwi o Taranaki, nau mai, haere mai. He r\u0101 tino nui t\u0113nei m\u014D koutou, he r\u0101 tino nui hoki m\u014D Aotearoa. N\u0101 koutou te kaha me te manawanui, n\u014D reira, rau rangatira m\u0101, t\u0113nei taku mihi atu ki a koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000307\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003E[Taranaki Mountain, Taranaki lands, Taranaki people, Taranaki tribes, welcome. This is a big day for you, this is also a big day for New Zealand. You have shown strength and perseverance, so, to the assembled chiefs, this is my acknowledgment to you, greetings, greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000308\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI begin by acknowledging Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki today. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou. Today is a historic day for Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki and Te K\u0101hui Tupua and for the people and the communities of the Taranaki region. Taranaki Maunga will have its name restored, and the park will be called Te Papa-Kura-o-Taranaki. I offer a warm welcome to Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki, who are here to mark the passing of this bill into law. It was great to spend time with you this morning, on what I thought was a wonderful occasion. I want to start by thanking the many speakers, who spoke so eloquently and passionately. Without you, these arrangements would not have been possible. I thank you for the fortitude and patience in reaching this significant milestone, and we join you in remembering the leaders and loved ones who have passed on before they were able to witness today\u2019s milestone.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000309\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EToday\u2019s remarks mark the final stage in the progression of the Taranaki Maunga arrangements with the Crown. It\u2019s an immense pleasure and a privilege to be standing before you today, supporting the bill\u2019s enactment. Today, it\u2019s appropriate to pay special tribute to the t\u016Bpuna of the eight iwi of Taranaki for the grievances they have suffered. Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki negotiators brought the wairua of their t\u016Bpuna to the negotiating table, and I want to thank the leader negotiator, Jamie Tuuta, for his wisdom and leadership in advocating for justice for Te K\u0101hui Tupua. I also acknowledge Liana Poutu, Hemi Sundgren, Marty Davis, and Haimona Maruera for the enormous responsibility of negotiating these arrangements with integrity. I also need to acknowledge the tireless work of Tihi Anne Daisy Noble, who was part of the negotiating team. While Daisy is no longer with us, I have no doubt that her contribution will never be forgotten.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000310\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EI want to thank Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki for your kindness towards officials throughout this process. Given your history with the Crown, officials were honoured to have your trust and understanding these past nine years. I acknowledge Katherine Gordon for her significant contribution and leadership as Chief Crown Negotiator. I thank my ministerial colleagues for their work and support, and in particular the Minister of Conservation, Tama Potaka, who jointly oversaw the Taranaki Maunga arrangements alongside me. I acknowledge the previous Ministers of Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations and Conservation who have been part of this work. I see Andrew Little in the House. I also want to thank Te Arawhiti and the Department of Conservation officials who worked long hours to develop and finalise arrangements.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000311\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThe bill gives effect to Te Ruruku P\u016Btakerongo, the Taranaki Maunga collective redress deed, to recognise the collective cultural redress over t\u016Bpuna maunga o Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki and the national park currently known as Egmont National Park. As kaitiaki for ng\u0101 maunga, the arrangements in the bill are designed to enable Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki to fulfil their intergenerational responsibilities in relation to their t\u016Bpuna maunga. The mountains of Taranaki are central to the identity of Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki and are special to all New Zealanders, especially to those living in the Taranaki region. The national park will be renamed Te Papa-Kura-o-Taranaki, and it will remain within the national parks system. A firm condition for the Crown is that all New Zealanders will be able to continue to visit and enjoy this most magnificent place for generations to come. It has been agreed that access to the mountain will not change. This is the land of Sir Edmund Hillary, and many New Zealanders love climbing mountains and enjoying the nurtured beauty of the park.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000312\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThrough the eight individual settlements for the iwi of Taranaki, the Crown promised that it would return to negotiate collective redress over the maunga. Today, the Crown fulfils this agreement. For generations, Taranaki Maunga and its surrounding ranges have been a central pillar for the iwi, hap\u016B, and wh\u0101nau of Taranaki. The mountain has long been an honoured ancestor, a source of physical, cultural, and spiritual sustenance and a final resting place. In 1770, Captain Cook sighted Taranaki Maunga while sailing down the western coast of the North Island. Cook decided to name the mountain Mt Egmont after the Earl of Egmont, who had a been a key supporter of Cook\u2019s voyages. Neither Cook nor Egmont ever made landfall in Taranaki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000313\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003ESince the signing of the Treaty, in 1840, Crown acts and omissions have caused Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki significant grievance. Following the establishment of European settlements in the 1840s, the Crown began to purchase land in the Taranaki region, but M\u0101ori in Taranaki became concerned when the Crown became acquiring land from individuals and groups, often without the consent or knowledge of key leaders in the wider community. In 1860, the Crown used military forces to complete its purchase of the land in Waitara, which was the spark that led to wars between the Crown and M\u0101ori. In 1865, the Crown unfairly punished M\u0101ori by confiscating 1.2 million acres of Taranaki land, including the mountain. The Crown\u2019s breaches of Te Tiriti mean that an immense and compounding harm has been inflicted upon wh\u0101nau, hap\u016B, and iwi of Taranaki, causing immeasurable harm over many decades.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000314\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EDuring the century that followed, the Crown repeatedly ignored the rights and interests of tangata whenua of Taranaki in relation to their ancestral mountain. Following the confiscation, the Crown failed to create most of the reserves it promised. After further protest by M\u0101ori in Taranaki, the Crown returned some reserves but refused to include most of the mountains, instead proclaiming them as a forest reserve and, later, a national park. The Crown then established management regimes which ensured that trampers, skiers, and hunters were involved in the park management but made no such provision for tangata whenua. Traditional M\u0101ori practices associated with the mountains were banned, while tourism was promoted. Pests such as possums were introduced and led to destruction of the native forest in some parts.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000315\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EIn the early 1970s, Taranaki M\u0101ori sought to become involved in the park management, to have the mountain\u2019s traditional name reinstated, and to have ownership of the mountains returned. Some of the proposals were initially supported by Government, then abandoned. Provisions for M\u0101ori involvement in the management of the Egmont National Park were eventually enacted in 1977, and in 1978 the Crown promoted legislation that returned Taranaki Maunga to the Taranaki M\u0101ori Trust Board but immediately returned it to the Crown ownership for the purposes of a national park. The gift and the vest-back arrangements that were put in place by the Act were a source of grievance to many Taranaki M\u0101ori ever since. To address this, on the effective date of the bill, the Mount Egmont Vesting Act 1978 will also be repealed.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000316\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EToday brings a close to Treaty negotiations between the Crown and iwi of Taranaki. I look forward to the future of Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki and the Crown in their roles of upholding and protecting the health and wellbeing of Te K\u0101hui Tupua. Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki, as you entered Parliament today and are sitting here in the gallery now, embody your ancestors, the many generations who have passed on, your people now and into the future, and I thank you for being here today. When enacted, this bill will further empower the efforts of Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki and will mark a new beginning in the relationship between the Crown and the proud and resilient uri of Taranaki. I look forward very much to visiting Taranaki to deliver the Crown apology in the near future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000317\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002253f86481-33c1-48b2-893b-c11cc0bd673d\u0022\u003EThis is a special day, and it is an opportunity to right the wrongs going back, as I said in this speech, 250 years to the renaming of the mountain and many, many events in between. This is a special day, and I want to thank everybody for taking the opportunity to be here. I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022c1427d768aff4a5b93f0ab690471169a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000318\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c1427d768aff4a5b93f0ab690471169a\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that the motion be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022 data-id=\u0022ff5a5cd4a8ce4714a39f319447ce7fe3\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000319\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022ff5a5cd4a8ce4714a39f319447ce7fe3\u0022\u003EHon GINNY ANDERSEN (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare. Tuia te mana t\u016Bpuna i Nukuroa, tuia te rangi ki runga o Taranaki maunga, paiheretia te muka t\u0101ngata ki ng\u0101 uri o r\u0101tau m\u0101 kua tahuri atu ki te p\u014D, ka ao, ka ao, ka ao ki a t\u0101tau katoa e pae nei. Ko te mihi tuatahi ki te Atua n\u0101na nei ng\u0101 mea katoa, ko te mihi tuarua ki te Whare e t\u016B nei. \u0100piti hono, t\u0101tai hono te hunga mate ki te hunga mate. \u0100piti hono, t\u0101tai hono, te hunga ora ki te hunga ora. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa ki ng\u0101 iwi o Taranaki: Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi, Ng\u0101ruahine, Ng\u0101ti Maru, Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, Ng\u0101ti Ruanui, Ng\u0101ti Tama, Taranaki Iwi, Te \u0100ti Awa. Ko t\u0113nei te mihi mahana ki a koutou katoa, n\u014D reira t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau katoa. Ko Taranaki he pou herenga waka, he pou herenga iwi, he pou herenga kaupapa, ko ia hoki te puna i heke mai ai te tangata, e kore e mimiti te puna h\u014Dpurupuru. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000320\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker. Bind the ancestral authority at Nukuroa, bind the sky above Mount Taranaki, tie together the thread of humanity to the descendants of those who have passed into the night. It is dawn and it comes to us gathered here. The first greeting is to God the creator of all things, the second greeting is to the House standing here. We join together the connections to the deceased. We join together the connections to the living. Greetings to the tribes of Taranaki: Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi, Ng\u0101ruahine, Ng\u0101ti Maru, Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, Ng\u0101ti Ruanui, Ng\u0101ti Tama, Taranaki Iwi, Te \u0100ti Awa. This is my warm greeting to you, thus greetings, greetings, greetings to us all. Taranaki is the pillar that anchors the canoes, that connects the tribes and connects our missions. It is also the wellspring from which people descend, a wellspring that will never run dry. Greetings.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000321\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to pay some acknowledgments first, and I know that I won\u2019t capture everybody, but I\u2019ll do my best to recall those I know personally. Jamie Tuuta and Liana Poutu, how hard you have worked throughout your lives to bring us to this day, and I know that all of those people around you who have supported you and done all of those hours and weeks and months and years of work to bring Taranaki iwi to this point in time. I\u2019d like to acknowledge all of those people here who have come on that journey and those who have passed along the way. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000322\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003EI would like to acknowledge the former Ministers for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations. When I first worked for Margaret Wilson, she was the Minister when Taranaki iwi were first entering into negotiations. Mark Burton was then the Minister; Christopher Finlayson, when National took Government; Andrew Little; and then it was Paul Goldsmith. We\u2019ve also had Ministers of Conservation from the Green Party\u2014Eugenie Sage\u2014and also Willow-Jean Prime, who was the Minister of Conservation who signed the agreement at Aotearoa Marae and \u014Cwae Marae. They are all part of this journey, as well. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000323\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003EWhen I first came to Wellington back in 2002 and got my first job here, it was right in the middle of the multiple negotiations happening with Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi and with Ng\u0101ti Tama. I was a new policy analyst, and I was so amazed to learn about your history and to sit in meetings and understand some of the wrongs that had gone on in Taranaki\u2014raupatu, in particular. So I\u2019m very proud to be able to be part of this journey and to speak today. It\u2019s an important day for us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000324\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003ETaranaki Maunga has always been more than just a mountain. It is an ancestor, a protector, and a source of strength for the iwi hap\u016B in Taranaki. It has shaped the identity, the culture, and the spiritual wellbeing of generations before and for generations to come. Personally, I\u2019m always amazed at the striking form of Taranaki. It rises so sharply, so close to the ocean\u2014I think that\u2019s what takes your breath away\u2014and often the clouds sit on its shoulders like a korowai itself. It\u2019s a beautiful mountain, and it\u2019s a proud part of New Zealand. But its history tells of a deep injustice, and that is what brings us here today. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000325\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003EFrom the 1840s, as European settlement grew in Taranaki, so did the pressure on M\u0101ori land. M\u0101ori initially engaged with the settler economy, but concerns quickly arose as the Crown began acquiring land in a way that ignored collective decision-making, ignored local leaders, and ignored the local communities. It often went against the wishes of those who spoke so loudly against what was happening. These tensions came to a head in 1850, when the Crown used military force to seize Waitara, sparking war, and in 1865, the Crown compounded this injustice by confiscating 1.2 million acres of M\u0101ori land, including Taranaki Maunga itself. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000326\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003EFor over a century, the rights of the people of Taranaki were disregarded. Promises were broken, reserves that were meant to be for M\u0101ori were not delivered, and when those reserves were provided, they did not include Taranaki Maunga itself. Instead, the mountain was declared a forest reserve and, later, a national park, without any recognition of tangata whenua who had always cared for it. M\u0101ori were locked out of decision making, traditional practices were banned, and tourism activities that harmed the environment were encouraged. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000327\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003EDespite these injustices, the people of Taranaki never gave up. From the 1970s onwards, there was a strong push to restore the mountain\u2019s traditional name, and to regain ownership and play a role in its management. Personally, I loved that bumper sticker that said \u201CWho was Egmont, anyway?\u201D\u2014I had one of those. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000328\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003EWhile some progress was made in 1977, with legislation allowing M\u0101ori involvement in the national park, and then, in 1978, the return of the mountain to the Taranaki M\u0101ori Trust Board, these steps fell well short of partnership. What this bill does is it creates a legal personality for Taranaki Maunga. Te K\u0101hui Tupua will be formally recognised in law as a living, indivisible, whole entity that encompasses Taranaki Maunga and its neighbouring peaks, Pou\u0101kai and Kaitake, from summit to surrounding lands, including both their physical and spiritual elements, as well. In doing so, Te K\u0101hui Tupua will also be granted a legal personhood, a recognition that reflects the deep connection iwi have always held with their tupuna maunga. This means Te K\u0101hui Tupua will have its own legal identity with rights, responsibilities, and protections, and that is acknowledging its status as more than just a landscape. It is an ancestor, a source of life, and a guiding presence for the people of Taranaki. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000329\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003EWhile this new legal status is centred on the national park, it extends well beyond its borders, in keeping with the iwi perspective of their mountain. Importantly, this recognises that it does not impact on private land or exchange existing laws outside the park. Instead, it ensures that the mountain and all it represents are safeguarded with the respect and authority it deserves for generations to come. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000330\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003EThere is an irony here, and I hear the voice of Uncle Willie in my head\u2014I always try to quieten it, but it\u2019s quite loud. This is a bill that takes real steps to acknowledge the status of Taranaki iwi as tangata whenua, while we on the Justice Committee sit for hours and hours to hear submissions on the Treaty principles bill, which takes active steps in an attempt to remove the tangata whenua status of M\u0101ori. Some of those ACT Party submitters are going to be real cross when they find out their coalition Government just gave Taranaki Maunga a legal personality. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000331\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003ENg\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki, you continue to lead the way in reconnecting with your mountain. Through environmental restoration, pest control, revival of indigenous flora and fauna, and the integration of m\u0101tauranga M\u0101ori, you are ensuring that Taranaki Maunga is protected for future generations, and I thank you for that. Your resilience and determination remind us all that true justice requires more than recognition; it requires action, partnership, and an unwavering commitment to honouring who you are. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000332\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022c21f4beb-20c4-4b12-bc6f-fdc931e2dc96\u0022\u003EI believe that the Taranaki Maunga collective redress will have benefits wider than just for Taranaki iwi. I believe it will build a better future for all New Zealanders for generations to come. N\u014D reira, he mihi mahana ki a koutou katoa. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou\u00A0katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u002277ddbef6833f4897a98a39228c59c63c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000333\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002277ddbef6833f4897a98a39228c59c63c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: This is a split call. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022 data-id=\u0022046db9c454d24decb1992a4506e984b8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000334\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022046db9c454d24decb1992a4506e984b8\u0022\u003EH\u016AHANA LYNDON (Green):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te Pika. Otir\u0101 t\u0113n\u0101 koutou taku rahi o Taranaki. Taranaki, he puna wai e kore e mimiti, ka koropup\u016B tonu, ka koropup\u016B tonu. Koia m\u0101tau, ng\u0101 mema P\u0101remata, ka t\u016Bohu ki mua i a koutou i t\u0113nei w\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000335\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EE taku iwi o Taranaki, aroha mai ki t\u0113nei K\u0101wanatanga, aroha mai ki ng\u0101 t\u016Bkinotanga ki runga i a koutou, ki runga i nga uri m\u014D \u0113nei o ng\u0101 rau tau tonu. Te rongo i te k\u014D atu i te kotahi miriona eka te rahi o ng\u0101 whenua kua raupatu i a Taranaki, ka aroha. Tangi ana te ngakau m\u014D te whakaaro e p\u0101 ana ki t\u0113nei maunga tapu, maunga whakahirahira, he mea n\u0101 te K\u0101wanatanga i t\u0101hae, i raupatu i a koutou. I t\u0113nei rangi kua whakaturengia kia hoki mai ki a koutou. N\u014D reira, kia aroha mai ki t\u0113nei Whare Paremata nei, ki \u0113nei o ng\u0101 ture, p\u014Dh\u0113h\u0113 K\u0101wanatanga nei, engari kua tae ki te w\u0101 kia whakatikangia. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000336\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker. Greetings to my people of Taranaki. Taranaki is a wellspring that will never run dry, but will continue to bubble forth. Here we are, as members of Parliament, we bow our heads to you at this time. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000337\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003ETo my people of Taranaki, I am sorry on behalf of this Government, sorry for the abuses visited upon you and upon generations across these centuries. Experiencing the loss of over 1 million acres of land that was confiscated, it is tragic. My heart cries when reflecting on this sacred mountain, this majestic mountain, that was stolen by the Government, confiscated from you. On this day, it is legislated to return to you. Thus, this Parliament House is sorry for this piece of legislation, this misguided Government, but the time has come to correct it.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000338\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EI stand before the House and I am heavy in considering the way with which to address this bill. It\u2019s a feat to get to this point, \u0101e? Nine years of negotiations to see the return of the maunga, but I think even greater is the raupatu or the t\u0101hae of our name. Our place names are so important, so when we\u2019ve had Egmont and now in\u0101ianei haere atu r\u0101 Egmont, in\u0101ianei hoki mai r\u0101 Taranaki Maunga [now, depart Egmont, now welcome back Mount Taranaki], what is in a name? We need to consider that as this House, because when we think of Pito-one, we think of Koror\u0101reka, we think of Te Kamo\u2014places of significance for iwi M\u0101ori. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000339\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EA name matters, so this ture honours the people of Taranaki Maunga, ng\u0101 iwi e waru, kia whakahokia te ingoa, kia motuhake te ingoa ki roto i te ture, ki mua i te K\u0101wanatanga, m\u014D te kaunihera, engari m\u014D koutou tonu. [the eight tribes, so the name is returned, the name is enshrined in legislation, before the Government, for the council, but also for you as well.] I pay tribute to those who have negotiated and demonstrated such tolerance for the Crown\u2014such tolerance in that you have been patient in negotiating this settlement for the people. And to the Ministers\u2014\u0101e, Matua Anaru Iti, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, koutou o te K\u0101wanatanga o t\u0113nei w\u0101, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou [yes, Andrew Little, greetings to you, and the Government of the day, greetings]\u2014te iwi M\u0101ori has been very gracious. Te iwi M\u0101ori has been very patient with this Whare K\u0101wanatanga, ka tika ng\u0101 mahi, and today this is about putting things right. This is about putting things right and honouring our ancestors, who have lost so much\u2014the landlessness of the people of Taranaki. Finally, kua hoki mai te maunga, kua hoki mai te ingoa, kua whakat\u016Bhia t\u0113tahi r\u014Dp\u016B hei r\u014Dp\u016B whakahaere i t\u014D t\u0101tau maunga me ng\u0101 whenua katoa n\u014D reira t\u0113nei ra ka mihi. [the mountain has returned, the name has returned, a group has been established as an administrating body for our mountain and all the lands, thus I acknowledge this.] \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000340\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EI am taking a split call to share time with my cousin Benjamin Doyle, but I cannot stop thinking about the raupatu. Kei reira tonu, kei mua i te aroaro, ki runga i taku rae tonu, me t\u0113nei maunga hoki. E tika ana me hoki mai, me hoki mai me te toru tekau m\u0101 rima miriona t\u0101ra m\u014D te whakahaere. \u0100e, e tika ana. Haere tonu, haere tonu, pauhia te penehini kia k\u012B te waka ki te whakahaere i \u0113nei o ng\u0101 whenua me Taranaki Maunga. E mihi atu ana ki ng\u0101 kaiwhakahaere o t\u0113nei kaupapa, otir\u0101 ng\u0101 iwi katoa me taku whakaaro e p\u0101 ana ki a te awa tupua i te tuatahi, awa tupua me ng\u0101 uri o te Urewera. Ko Taranaki Maunga t\u0113tahi atu tauira m\u014D m\u0101tau o te Tai Tokerau, m\u0101tau, m\u014D te iwi M\u0101ori tonu. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000341\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E[It is still there, at the front on mind, on my brow, with regard to this mountain. It is proper that it should be returned, returned with $35 million for administration. Yes, it is proper. Going forward, spend the money as fuel for the vehicle to administer these lands and Mount Taranaki. I acknowledge the leaders of this matter, and all the people, and I reflect on te awa tupua and the descendants of the Urewera district. Mount Taranaki is another example for us of the North, and for the M\u0101ori people generally.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000342\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EIn considering personification and whakat\u016Branga, to put into legislation the recognition of Taranaki Maunga being our tuakana\u2014that is what we are. We are the t\u0113ina as t\u0101ngata, and it is recognising the special connection that the iwi of Taranaki have long had and now the Crown is finally catching up.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000343\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003ESo, while my comments are short, it is an honour\u2014it is an absolute honour\u2014to stand here before you, considering the loss, but what today brings, a new day of manawhakahaere for the people of Taranaki me te K\u0101wanatanga kia t\u016B tonu t\u0101tau m\u014D te rangatiratanga, kia t\u016B tonu t\u0101tau m\u014D te mana M\u0101ori motuhake, me te mihi an\u014D ki a koutou, ng\u0101 iwi o Taranaki. [and the Government to stand together for rangatiratanga, to stand together for M\u0101ori authority, and to acknowledge you, the tribes of Taranaki.] Ka heke iho. Kia ora. [I resume my seat. Good wishes.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022 data-id=\u002283584c0c7125457fb6d968d73fd1f07d\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000344\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002283584c0c7125457fb6d968d73fd1f07d\u0022\u003EBENJAMIN DOYLE (Green):\u003C/span\u003E E te M\u0101ngai, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. E rere ana te mihi ki te whenua, ko Papat\u016B\u0101nuku te m\u0101reikura o t\u0113nei ao. Ki ng\u0101 tini atua, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. He mihi maioha, he mihi mahana hoki t\u0113nei ki a koutou, ng\u0101 iwi o Taranaki kua tae mai i t\u0113nei r\u0101. Ka tuku hoki te mihi ki ng\u0101 tini mate kua haere tonu ki te tua o te \u0101rai, ki te p\u014D, ki te okiokinga i \u014D t\u0101tau t\u016Bpuna, haere, haere, haere atu r\u0101. Ki a koe hoki, Mount Egmont, haere tonu atu. Nau mai, he tika atu kia hoki mai koe, Maunga Taranaki maunga, e te tuakana ki te mahau o \u014D t\u0113ina. He manawa piharau. E ng\u0101 mana whenua, ko Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi, ko Te \u0100ti Awa, ko Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, ko Ng\u0101ti Tama, ko Ng\u0101ti Maru, ko Ng\u0101ruahine, ko Ng\u0101ti Ruanui koutou ko Taranaki Iwi, karanga mai, karanga mai, karanga mai. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000345\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022\u003E[Mr Speaker, greetings. I send my acknowledgments to the land, to Papat\u016B\u0101nuku, the sacred female essence of the world. To the many deities, greetings to you all. This is a greeting of affection and warmth to you, the tribes of Taranaki who have assembled here today. I give acknowledgments to the many deceased who have passed beyond the veil, to the night, to the resting place of our ancestors, depart and travel well. To you as well, Mount Egmont, depart. Welcome, it is appropriate that you return Mount Taranaki, to the platform of your juniors. You have shown great endurance. To the people of the land, Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi, Te \u0100ti Awa, Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, Ng\u0101ti Tama, Ng\u0101ti Maru, Ng\u0101ruahine, Ng\u0101ti Ruanui, and Taranaki Iwi, call forth and greet us.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000346\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022\u003ETaranaki Maunga, you are the never-ending spring that replenishes your people. You will continue to flow\u2014you will continue to flow. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000347\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022\u003EWe M\u0101ori are descendants of te taiao. We are mokopuna of ng\u0101 maunga. It is our inherent and perpetual link to this cosmological whakapapa which allows us to connect to our ancestral turangawaewae. Woven like aho and whenu of the t\u0101niko, our people are an inseparable element of the environment\u2014the younger siblings, or t\u0101ina, of the manu, the ngahere, ng\u0101 uri katoa o T\u0101ne Mahuta. [all the descendants of T\u0101ne Mahuta.] With humility and respect, we look to our ancestors, our tu\u0101kana, for guidance. It is our responsibility to listen to their call and, in turn, to act as kaitiaki of their domains.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000348\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022\u003ETe P\u0101ti K\u0101k\u0101riki acknowledges the ecological wisdom of tangata whenua, the original custodians of these lands. We acknowledge you, ng\u0101 iwi o katoa o Taranaki. We seek every day to honour Te Tiriti o Waitangi by upholding the tino rangatiratanga of M\u0101ori, and we\u2019ll relentlessly pursue a vision of mana \u014Drite\u2014equity\u2014as promised in article 3 of Te Tiriti o Waitangi. For this reason, it is our honour to be here with you all and to tautoko this bill, which goes a small way towards addressing the immense suffering and loss that you have experienced at the hands of the Crown.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000349\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022\u003EA name is a taonga, and to have that taonga erased, assimilated, and suppressed is an act of deliberate colonial violence. It is a severance of whakapaka, an attempt to eradicate the very thing that locates and connects us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000350\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022\u003EThe Crown sought to name and claim our w\u0101hi tapu, our takiw\u0101, as a strategy of cultural genocide. Returning our ingoa to these lands should not be viewed as a gift, nor is it an act of generosity; it is a simple matter of making right a terrible wrong. He whakatika.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000351\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022\u003EThere will be a day when our mokopuna know only the true names of this land, Aotearoa. There will be a day when the mana me te mauri o ng\u0101 maunga me ng\u0101 awa [mana and the mauri of the mountains and the rivers] are protected, cared for, restored, and respected, not as resources to be exploited but as taonga, as tu\u0101kana, as t\u016Bpuna. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000352\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022\u003EE ng\u0101 mokopuna o Taranaki Maunga, t\u0113nei he mihi aroha nui ki a koutou, he whakawhetai hoki. Hoki mai r\u0101 te ingoa pono o Taranaki Maunga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000353\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022d088ed10-ea30-49bf-892c-b67c5121038f\u0022\u003E[To the descendants of Mount Taranaki, this is a loving acknowledgment to you, and thanks. We welcome back the true name, Mount Taranaki.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022 data-id=\u0022c0fecb2c7154470bb33c2fac4814a3e4\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000354\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c0fecb2c7154470bb33c2fac4814a3e4\u0022\u003ECAMERON LUXTON (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I am privileged to rise and speak on behalf of the ACT Party in this third reading of Te Pire Whakatupua m\u014D Te K\u0101hui Tupua/Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill, which restores the name \u201CTaranaki Maunga\u201D. I\u2019d just like to quickly say that I am not yet at my 40th year of life, and I can remember at some point in my childhood hearing the arguments in the world about whether \u201CEgmont\u201D should stay or \u201CMount Taranaki\u201D should stay, and, to be honest with you, I actually thought that that had already happened. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000355\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003ESo to stand here as someone from the Bay of Plenty, not from Taranaki, who did not partake as strongly with your conversations that have been happening, understanding the hurt and the effort that has been going into getting this ingoa back, it\u2019s fair enough that this is an emotional moment for any of you who feel it. I wish I had known sooner that this name hadn\u2019t been changed back.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000356\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003ETo the negotiators who have worked hard on the Crown side, and that of Ng\u0101 Iwi o Te Taranaki, you guys have done a good job here to try and bring sides together, repairing damage that has been around for a long time. Rights have been trampled by the Crown; violence, injustice has been given out; the Crown has told lies and damaged te mana, the respect, that it claims but, perhaps, didn\u2019t deserve. These damages may never be repaired. Reading through the historical account in the bill about what has happened in Taranaki is something that New Zealanders are learning about but not, perhaps, enough. I would like to also note that I read with some pleasure in there that this is not a full historical account, because how could you ever take full account of what has happened? The Crown has committed horrendous acts, and this is but a small, small part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000357\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003EMy colleague Benjamin Doyle raised a good point that this is not giving the name back. The name was taken, and this is restoring a name\u2014and haere atu ki te p\u014D, Egmont. [go into the darkness, Egmont.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000358\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003EI believe quite strongly in property rights. I think they are a sound, strong way to form a society, and I\u2019m glad to see in this bill that the Minerals Act is going to have some sections ignored so that the true managers and kaitiaki of te maunga will be able to use stones and other resources that have been exempted without having to go to the Crown or to council or anybody to ask for a resource management consent\u2014because, you know, people want to be able to use what\u2019s special to them, just for any reason, without needing to justify it to somebody else. I think that is a great part of this bill, although a minor part.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000359\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003EI don\u2019t want to use up a lot of time on this, but I do want to tell a small story. As I say, I\u2019m from the Bay of Plenty, and I\u2019d never actually been to the Taranaki before I was elected.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000360\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00225840d1f272ba43dd8a96cc265ba1d3f3\u0022\u003EHon Members\u003C/span\u003E: Oh!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000361\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00228412b116bd95477799c45379a52a4251\u0022\u003ECAMERON LUXTON\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, sorry about that. But I have been now. So, anyway\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000362\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00222ca9e0d8da7143ff987db64d60413f96\u0022\u003EGlen Bennett\u003C/span\u003E: Outrageous!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000363\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00229d60a909a35a445da93f9c92be6c0b2c\u0022\u003ECAMERON LUXTON\u003C/span\u003E: Outrageous, right? I have been now. But the closest I\u2019d got to seeing it was standing on\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000364\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022fd0019d2b54f4989802b2dda2e4b3fac\u0022\u003EHon Willie Jackson\u003C/span\u003E: Don\u2019t take Seymour there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000365\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022cfc7092e-b202-4acf-aa9c-8aebd551cc39\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00227fff4993bc67485d9b0090d8ade4e1b9\u0022\u003ECAMERON LUXTON\u003C/span\u003E: To be fair, I was there with him. I was standing on Ruapehu and looking out towards Mount Taranaki and seeing it out there, and oh my goodness it\u2019s glorious from afar. But, wow, when I was standing below it and watching the land where the water has come off the mountain and carved channels, so even though it looks flat, you know there are deep historical markings in the land, with the bush that it has and the imposing manner in which the mountain stands above all of Taranaki\u2014I can see why the people of Taranaki are so proud of their maunga here. You should be proud to have this right and responsibility that I am sure, and, I know, ng\u0101 iwi o Taranaki will take seriously to be the kaitiaki of this maunga in this bill. Mr Speaker, thank you very much.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022 data-id=\u0022bc5007a317c949138c4cca5a781a9384\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000366\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022bc5007a317c949138c4cca5a781a9384\u0022\u003EJENNY MARCROFT (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E E te P\u012Bka, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. E ng\u0101 iwi o Taranaki, Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi, Ng\u0101ruahine, Ng\u0101ti Maru, Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, Ng\u0101ti Ruanui, Ng\u0101ti Tama, Taranaki Iwi me Te \u0100ti Awa, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. E t\u016B ana ahau he uri n\u014D te Tai Tokerau, ki te mihi atu ki a koutou. Ka nui \u0101ku mihi maioha ki a koutou. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Ka mihi ahau ki ng\u0101 rangatira me ng\u0101 m\u0101reikura o ng\u0101 iwi o Taranaki, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Ka mihi ahau hoki ki a t\u0101tau kua tae mai ki te tautoko i te kaupapa o te rangi nei. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000367\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E[Madam Speaker, greetings. To the tribes of Taranaki, Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi, Ng\u0101ruahine, Ng\u0101ti Maru, Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, Ng\u0101ti Ruanui, Ng\u0101ti Tama, Taranaki Iwi, and Te \u0100ti Awa, greetings to you all. I stand as a descendant of the North to acknowledge you. I give many warm acknowledgments to you. Greetings to you all. I acknowledge the chiefs and the noble women of the Taranaki tribes, greetings to you all. I also acknowledge all of us gathered here to support the issue of the day. Greetings to you, to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000368\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EI am absolutely humbled and honoured to speak on behalf of New Zealand First in support of Te Pire Whakatupua m\u014D Te K\u0101hui Tupua/Taranaki Maunga Collective Redress Bill. This bill recognises the Crown\u2019s historic breaches of the Treaty in relation to Taranaki Maunga, including the confiscation of 1.2 million acres of Taranaki lands. The national park, including Taranaki Maunga and the surrounding peaks will be vested in a legal person named Te K\u0101hui Tupua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000369\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EThe entity that will act on behalf of Te K\u0101hui Tupua will have eight members on it\u2014four appointed by iwi, four appointed by the Ministry of Conservation\u2014and it will be called Te T\u014Dpuni K\u014Dk\u014Drangi and the national park management plan will be called He Kawa Ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000370\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EFor generations, iwi have sought to have the name of the maunga restored, and today in the House, the Taranaki Maunga redress bill achieves this vision. It should be a very proud day for you, as it is, I\u2019m sure, for everyone in this House to be a part of bringing to an end a chapter of much sadness. But I think when we look back at what does personhood mean, we see we have a precedent already. In 2014, Te Urewera was delisted as a national park to become the first ecosystem in the world to be recognised as having legal personhood. In the same way that they\u2019re imbued with rights, powers, duties, and liabilities of a legal person, the Whanganui awa became the first river to be recognised as an indivisible and living being\u2014the first river in the world to be granted legal personhood status\u2014and, today, that status is also endowed upon Taranaki Maunga. Today, with the passing of this bill, the highly regarded and treasured lands of Taranaki will be granted legal personhood status.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000371\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EMany in the House will make comment and run through the narrative of historic breaches that the Crown has made against Taranaki iwi, but I\u2019d like to not add to that k\u014Drero. I\u2019d like to shift my focus to something that\u2019s maybe more uplifting, because we need to put the past in the past, once that apology has been made and once the Crown has set a new pathway forward together with the iwi.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000372\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EWe look at M\u0101ori legend, and as a Ng\u0101puhi growing up in Te Arawa, I learnt many of Te Arawa\u2019s legends, so in doing some little research for my contribution today, it was great to actually find out more about the legends around Taranaki Maunga. I think it\u2019s a beautiful story of a maunga on the central volcanic plateau who fell in love with another mountain, a beautiful female mountain, when he was centred in the centre of the North Island alongside Ruapehu, Tongariro, and Ng\u0101uruhoe. He fell in love with Pihanga, a beautiful mountain covered in forest. Taranaki fought with Tongariro for Pihanga\u2019s favour, but, unfortunately, was defeated and fled west, and his tears created the Whanganui awa. He rested, but the\u00A0Pouakai Range blocked his path and he became petrified, and he ended up where he sits\u00A0today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000373\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EThe mountain\u2014the maunga\u2014is said to cry for Pihanga when covered in rain clouds. The mountain is said to display itself to Pihanga during spectacular sunsets, and I have seen many of those sunsets from my sister\u2019s farm. She is on the coast in P\u0101tea, and what a stunning visual display of that mountain for all to see, particularly those who are artists. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000374\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EFrom across New Zealand for all time, the maunga has been an inspiration for art, and we only have to look no further than probably one of the most well-known artists\u2014he certainly claims a lot of p\u016Btea when his art is sold\u2014Colin McCahon. One of his last paintings in 1980 was a painting called A painting for Uncle Frank, and it was two pieces of landscape, side by side. One was a painting from the north, and the other part was a silhouette of Taranaki Maunga shrouded in cloud. That\u2019s a beautiful painting.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000375\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EAlso there is the majesty of that mountain. It has called for many a mountaineer to go and traverse it, along with the odd day tramper as well, but probably our most famous mountaineer, Sir Edmund Hillary, climbed it for the first time at the age of 24. It was when he was in military training that he first scaled Mount Taranaki. In fact, he went and climbed it a hundred more times, and I suppose Taranaki Maunga was part of why he managed to summit Everest. He had a famous saying when he summited Everest: \u201CWe knocked the bastard off.\u201D Well, he did that a hundred times with Taranaki Maunga, but it was his quote that I particularly like, which I think is applicable to Taranaki Maunga, and this is what Sir Edmund Hillary said: \u201CIt is an act of worship just to sit and look at high mountains.\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000376\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EI\u2019d just like to also mention\u2014and it would be remiss of me, as a New Zealand First member, not to mention\u2014Matua Shane. Sometimes he does manage to put his p\u016Btea where his waha is. He has in fact been with the Provincial Growth Fund, making sure that the region of Taranaki got its fair share. The Taranaki Crossing, the enhanced visitor experience on the maunga, upgrading the tracks, a new bridge, a new visitor hut, and the development of an improved, safer visitor centre as part of the Taranaki Crossing was because of the Provincial Growth Fund. He also wanted me to mention that he has put money into upgrading 23 marae in the Taranaki region, and may he long continue to do that. I hope he makes sure that we can get some more p\u016Btea out there to you from him with the Regional Infrastructure Fund.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000377\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to conclude where, in a M\u0101ori cultural context, we normally begin when we introduce ourselves, and the first point we make in our pepeha is to name our maunga. Well, my maunga is Whakarongorua, and for those of you here today, you now have the name of your maunga restored, so what a beautiful blessing that is. We use our maunga, as we begin our pepeha, because it\u2019s that connection to the physical and spiritual place that we call home. It represents the most significant and foundational element of our ancestral land. That connection with that physical landscape and our roots within our tribal territory are so important. The maunga is considered that source of life, sustenance, and protection. That is why it\u2019s a starting point when we introduce ourselves in the M\u0101ori cultural context.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000378\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EIn conclusion, I\u2019d like to acknowledge the mana of Taranaki iwi here in the House today. I acknowledge your maunga, Taranaki Maunga, your ancestor, and after nine years of negotiations with the Crown, this phase concludes another chapter. I hope that from this point you are able to release the pain of the past, to be set free to imagine a new and better tomorrow for all of Taranaki iwi. I humbly commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022 data-id=\u00228bb6b0bf1266466e8654947d8109843c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000379\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00228bb6b0bf1266466e8654947d8109843c\u0022\u003EDEBBIE NGAREWA-PACKER (Co-Leader\u2014Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te P\u012Bka. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000380\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EMaunga Taranaki e t\u016B mai r\u0101, \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000381\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003Ee t\u016B mai r\u0101 Maunga Taranaki, e t\u016B mai r\u0101, e t\u016B mai r\u0101, \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000382\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003Ep\u014Dwhiritia r\u0101, p\u014Dwhiritia r\u0101 ng\u0101 waka, ng\u0101 waka, ng\u0101 mana, ng\u0101 reo kua huihui mai nei. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000383\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003E[Mount Taranaki stand forth, \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000384\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003Estand forth Mount Taranaki, stand forth, stand forth, \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000385\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003Ewelcome, welcome the canoes, the canoes, the authorities, the voices that are gathered here.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000386\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003ET\u0113n\u0101 koutou e te wh\u0101nau. It reminds me that Huirangi always wondered why Sir Edmund Hillary scaled our maunga. He would often say, \u201CThere\u2019s no kai up there.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000387\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EI\u2019m extremely conscious that I have the privilege to talk today. I\u2019m extremely conscious I have the privilege, as a mana wahine, as a mokopuna o Taranaki, and there are many voices before me. There are all of our t\u016Bpuna who we saw arrive today, and I particularly think of our kui Moerewarewa. I particularly think of Tihi and of those represented today by the many faces who couldn\u2019t be here from Taranaki. I humbly mihi to you all for your patience and your aroha to being here. I also remember the fact that you got on buses together as, actually\u2014Jamie\u2014a sign of unity, so there you go. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000388\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EI also want to mihi to te P\u0101ti K\u0101k\u0101riki, who have allowed me an extra five minutes to be able to mihi to such an important kaupapa, which is our maunga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000389\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EI am also conscious of what Ruakere Hond said today: \u201CI t\u0113nei r\u0101, kua puta a Taranaki i te herehere.\u201D\u2014today, Taranaki is freed from the shackles. It\u2019s freed from the shackles of muru raupatu. Today, Taranaki, our maunga tupuna, is released from the shackles of injustice, of ignorance, and of hate. Today, we also liberate with our aroha. In our de-chaining and de-shackling, we also liberate the rest of Aotearoa, in correcting this deep, evil past, and reminding the Governments of today that our taonga are never yours to take or abuse, and that we will always have another generation to continue on the legacy of aroha\u2014of aroha and peace for all of Aotearoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000390\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EThe theft of our maunga has been one of the greatest injustices of colonisation, and I know I\u2019m telling you what we already lived and know. I know that we were all raised not only under the breath of our maunga\u2014there is no air like the air that our maunga has, there is no whenua like the whenua in Taranaki, and there is no legacy for rights and justice like there is in Taranaki. The tireless fights, petitions, activations, negotiations\u2014there is a resilience and, sadly, we are all born highly politicised.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000391\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EThere was also recognition in the Taranaki tribunal reports\u2014which I take every opportunity in this House to mention\u2014of the kaupapa tuatahi of the Waitangi Tribunal, which noted that what happened to Taranaki M\u0101ori in the 1860s as being akin to holocaust, and I say that because there is a deep confusion still in the landscape of Aotearoa of what we are about. Dame Tariana was brave and she mentioned it, and I did in my maiden speech. It is not to cause discomfort and hate; it\u2019s actually just to remind what this young culture has behind it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000392\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EWe were never privileged to experience this. We were never privileged surviving this muru raupatu. It has taken this place way too long to acknowledge this and, sadly, that speaks to many ongoing struggles that we see in Aotearoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000393\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EThe bill doesn\u2019t return ownership. Every day of my life, of our t\u016Bpuna\u2019s life, of my mokopuna\u2019s life, our maunga looked over us as we lived within the State that chose to control, rename, and strip from our w\u2019akapapa. But let me be really, really clear: our t\u016Bpuna never ceded sovereignty over our maunga\u2014no raupatu, no Act of Government, no colonial decree could ever sever our connection with our maunga. We grew up knowing there was nothing anyone could do to make us any less connected, so I\u2019m extremely proud of our negotiators, because we\u2019re a tough audience to please.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000394\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EToday, we affirm what we\u2019ve always known: our maunga is and never was a Crown asset. It is our t\u016Bpuna, living breathing embodiment of our identity, our kawa, our tikanga, our w\u2019akapapa as Taranaki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000395\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EThis has always been about our mokopuna. This is where we want to be in a place where, today, in Aotearoa, our mokopuna never have to fight or normalise seeing our taonga and our resources exploited, mined, and destroyed for twilight industries. Our mokopuna have the right and interest to be who they are.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000396\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EI want the nation to understand that the debates that are going on in Aotearoa are actually about us being able to remember what we came from and how we simply haven\u2019t landed at the same place. We\u2019re not victims; we are survivors of muru raupatu, and that meant that we arrived at a different time. But do not be mistaken about what it is that\u2019s going on within Taranaki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000397\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EI want to talk about the next dawn, because upstairs are some of the most brilliant, innovative, creative, unique, dynamic, motivational, and inspirational people I\u2019ve ever known in the world\u2014and if you think they\u2019re great, you should see their mokopuna. What we have up here is a community that, despite and in spite of, has rebuilt not only the economy of Taranaki but also our belief in ourselves.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000398\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EI just want to share with you\u2014because I know this is a deeply heavy day\u2014how we\u2019ve lifted, how we live light, how we continue to live in the spirit of Tohu and Te Whiti. We have rebuilt infrastructure, and Parihaka, in international passive resistance, stands strong and continues to be unique and show what kotahitanga does. Our reo, our whare w\u0101nanga, Te Ataarangi, T\u0101 M\u0101ui P\u014Dmare, T\u0101 Rangih\u012Broa Buck, te P\u0101tea M\u0101ori Club are all international kaupapa that continue to teach and educate the world on solutions of unity and kotahitanga. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000399\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EWe have housing initiatives that every iwi are doing uniquely. We are our own solutions, living proof. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000400\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EWe have taiao kaupapa; they\u2019re actively at every submission. It\u2019s not lost on me that Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki are presenting on Monday against the Treaty principles bill, and we are also here, giving aroha to the motu. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000401\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EWe have our own educational tautoko. We lead in primary sectors: agriculture, horticulture, and fish. With Parininihi ki Waitotara, we have our own iwi initiatives. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000402\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EWe have rangatahi delegations that go to Stanford University; they come back and they are digital natives. They are some of the most talented, amazing rangatahi. We have our own kura kaupapa, w\u2019are kura, kohanga reo, where there\u2019s nothing that we didn\u2019t lose that we can\u2019t rebuild. We are hosting\u2014and this is the most political kaupapa going on in Taranaki at the moment\u2014Matatini, whether we\u2019re wearing white or black, and I\u2019m wearing red, just so you all know! \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000403\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003ENg\u0101 purapura waihotanga o Aotea utanga nui [the seeds left by the heavily laden Aotea canoe], we are our own strength, and every day, our rangatahi, you can see, are great orators, sportspeople, and videographers. They are the most talented rangatahi in the world, in spite of and despite of. When we accept the 1 percent of these settlements and when we sit there and we show we don\u2019t have special treatment, our long-term investments are performing better than those that have had local council long-term perpetual funds, we go out and we rebuild ourselves, and we dust up and we dust off.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000404\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EI think today is about taking a real serious look, as Ruakere said in his k\u014Drero, that we, as the maunga and maunga people, are here to make sure we look after everyone in Aotearoa. There\u2019s not a single kaupapa that you can find in Taranaki that isn\u2019t inconclusive. The 1 percent that we accept\u2014and I know that everyone\u2019s going to endorse this, and some are here to think that the Tiriti is a closure; it is about honouring Te Tiriti; it never expires, just like our mokopuna, and just like the stance of our maunga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000405\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EToday was always about our mokopuna, and after listening to our Te Kanawa Wilson and our connection to Te Ka\u2019ui Maunga, we must always remember we never stand alone, even our maunga. We are interconnected in w\u2019akapapa in ways you could never know.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000406\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00227a76db18-baa4-41c1-b366-89e2c753a1e7\u0022\u003EFinally, I want to share again what Ruakere said this afternoon: \u201CTo maunga, to whenua, to tangata, a strong maunga\u2014strong mountain\u2014strong whenua\u2014strong land\u2014and strong tangata\u2014strong people.\u201D N\u014D reira, i te \u0101huatanga o t\u0101 t\u0101tau tipuna, ng\u0101 mihi aroha ki a koutou kua tae mai. [Thus, with the aspect of our ancestor, loving acknowledgments to you who have come here.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022 data-id=\u0022caa43490e54144568e5b673225c6800a\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022caa43490e54144568e5b673225c6800a\u0022\u003EGREG FLEMING (National\u2014Maungakiekie):\u003C/span\u003E Ko hea, ko hea t\u0113r\u0101 maunga e t\u016B mai\u00A0r\u0101? Ko Taranaki pea, ko Taranaki pea. Nukunuku mai, nekeneke mai ki taku aro, kikini ai. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000408\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EKei ng\u0101 iwi e waru o Taranaki Maunga, Ng\u0101ti Tama, Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, Ng\u0101ti Maru, Te \u0100ti Awa, Taranaki Iwi, Ng\u0101ruahinerangi, Ng\u0101ti Ruanui, Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. N\u014Dku te m\u0101ringanui ki te t\u016B ki te aroaro o te mana o Taranaki wh\u0101nui me te mihi atu ki t\u014D koutou koro, ki a koro Taranaki, m\u0101 t\u014Dna whakamana m\u0101 te pire nei, n\u0101 te mea koin\u0101 te mahi o t\u0113nei pire. Ehara t\u0113nei hei hanga i t\u014Dna mana. E k\u0101o. He mana t\u014Dna mai r\u0101 an\u014D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000409\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EHeoi m\u0101 t\u0113nei pire e whakatangata ai ia, he wairua t\u014Dna, he mana t\u014Dna, ae r\u0101 ko Taranaki Maunga t\u0113r\u0101. Ki \u0113tahi, he rerek\u0113 t\u0113nei pire. He huanga te nuinga o te m\u0101ramatanga. Kaua ko te m\u0101ramatanga o Tohu r\u0101ua ko Te Whiti, engari ko te m\u0101ramatanga P\u0101keh\u0101 k\u0113, ar\u0101 ko te Enlightenment. He pire t\u0113nei e tino nukunuku, e nekeneke te whakaaro ki te taiao me te wairua i te ture. Heoi, ki a au, ko te hua o te tino m\u0101ramatanga, kia m\u0101rama ai t\u0101tau o te wh\u0101nui, te h\u014Dhonu, te roa, me te tiketike o t\u014D t\u0101tau ao. K\u0101ore e whakaiti te ao, e whakam\u014Dmona te ao. Ehara he mea t\u0113nei kia wehi ai, engari \u0113tahi wa, \u0113tahi horopaki, k\u0101ore e \u0101whina \u0113nei momo mea, n\u0101 reira ka huri toku reo aianei kia m\u0101rama ai t\u0101tau. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000410\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003E[Which is that mountain standing yonder? It is Taranaki perhaps. Move it forth to my presence, so that I may pinch it. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000411\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003ETo the eight tribes of Mount Taranaki, Ng\u0101ti Tama, Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, Ng\u0101ti Maru, Te \u0100ti Awa, Taranaki, Ng\u0101ruahinerangi, Ng\u0101ti Ruanui, Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi, greetings to you all. It is my good fortune to stand in the presence of greater Taranaki to acknowledge your elder, koro Taranaki, who is being recognised through this bill. This does not create his mana. No. His mana has existed from ancient times. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000412\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EThis bill makes him a legal person, he has his own spirit, his own mana, that is indeed Mount Taranaki. To some people, this bill is unusual. There are benefits within the enlightenment\u2014not the enlightenment of Tohu and Te Whiti, but the Western Enlightenment. This bill moves and alters the way one thinks about the environment and its spirit within legal settings. For me, the benefit of this enlightenment is that we may see the breadth, the depth, the length and the heights of our world. This does not make the world smaller, it enriches the world. This is not something to fear, but some times and some contexts do not assist these matters, so I shall switch my language now so that we may all understand.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000413\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EI listened last week to a P\u016B K\u014Drero podcast conversation between Te Rawhitiroa Bosch and Eru Kapa-Kingi. \u0100taahua t\u014D r\u0101ua reo. [Their language was lovely.] They were talking about the difference of taking a M\u0101ori approach to CrossFit\u2014k\u0101ore he whakapakari te tinana anake. [\u2014it is not just about developing one\u2019s body.] Eru was explaining it\u2019s not just about exercising the body; it\u2019s about recognising the full dimensions of the person, their spirit, their identity, and the role in that of language and expression of culture. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000414\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EFrom their k\u014Drero, I was reminded of T\u0101 Mason Durie\u2019s framework of holistic health that\u2019s now used enthusiastically across our health, education, and welfare sectors. It\u2019s an understanding of full health, of hauora, that is rooted within this whenua and under this rangi.\u00A0Te Whare Tapa Wh\u0101 recognises not just our physical health but also our social, mental, and spiritual health. It considers the relational, emotional, and spiritual state of a person as being essential to their physical health. Ki a au, koir\u0101 te awenga o te pire nei\u2014for me, that\u2019s the effect of this type of legislation. It\u2019s about taking a hauora approach to our mountains, our rivers, and our forests. It\u2019s about tiakitanga\u2014caring, protecting, and preserving in its\u00A0fullest sense\u2014and I believe it resonates with us all because, deep down, we all know there\u2019s so much more to this world. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000415\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EI spoke to this last year in the second and third readings of the Samoan citizenship bill, when I had the opportunity to thank their community for reminding us every day of the full dimensions of a truly rich life, of the deep reality of the relational and of the spiritual. It\u2019s why the legends of old speak to us as they do. It\u2019s why we\u2019re so moved by the stories of Tolkien and Lewis, of mountains and forests alive. We are filled with wonder. We sense the thin spaces. We are in awe, and from that awe, we are better humans. We take better care of our world. We listen more carefully.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000416\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EOne Sunday last June, before our select committee hearings in New Plymouth, we were welcomed on to Taranaki Maunga. I shared lunch with Wharehoka and Emere Wano, and in the afternoon I walked up to the ski field with Tane Houston, a true mountain of a man. Nui t\u014D p\u0101hau e hoa, nui ake t\u014D ng\u0101kau i te pu\u0101wai ki t\u014D koro me ona uri taioho. [You have a big beard, friend, but your heart is bigger with regard to your elder and his descendants.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000417\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003ETane, our conversation that day spoke more powerfully to this bill than anything I\u2019ve encountered. The way you spoke of Taranaki, the depth of care you had for him, the genuine excitement you shared for everyone to experience him, and the vision you shared for how life giving and life restoring Taranaki is for the rangatahi whom you bring to the maunga, it was something else. Your heart clearly beat in sync with Taranaki\u2019s, and it brought to life for me what we are doing here today: officially recognising the mana of Koro Taranaki and putting in place a genuine hauora approach to caring for him. You spoke of the fauna, the seasons, the trails, the creeks, the summer in a way that added whole dimensions to what I\u2019d seen in the mountain before. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000418\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EAll of this came flooding back to me last week when I was speaking with one of the local MPs, for Taranaki shares his great mana across many electorates. I had asked Barbara \u201CKurika\u201D\u2014you see, Kuriger becomes M\u0101ori in terms of your pronunciation, Madam Speaker. It shares today\u2014\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000419\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u00221cc298d664784fb1a9d188c42d962364\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: I think it might be the same in Swiss, actually.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000420\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002211ae22fc0bb2421193b814be7f7a1c5f\u0022\u003EGREG FLEMING\u003C/span\u003E: Give it a go! I asked her how her summer barbecue conversations had gone explaining this kind of bill to her so many quizzical constituents. She said that she would sum it all up by telling them, \u201CWe take care of Taranaki\u2019s wellbeing and he takes care of us.\u201D\u2014\u201CM\u0101 m\u0101tau a Taranaki e tiaki, \u0101, m\u0101 Taranaki m\u0101tau e tiaki.\u201D \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000421\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EI a au e whakaaro e p\u0101 ana ana ki Taranaki, ka huri \u014Dku whakaaro ki ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata o Taranaki e whakaahuatia ahau\u2014whenever I think of Taranaki, my thoughts turn to the people of Taranaki who have shaped and formed me these recent years. At the first reading of this bill and in my maiden speech, I spoke of my friend Te Waka McLeod. He uri ia o Ng\u0101ti Mutunga r\u0101ua ko Te \u0100ti Awa. [She is a descendant of Ng\u0101ti Mutunga and Te \u0100ti Awa.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000422\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EShe\u2019s the one that first invited me into a world which I did not know, even though it knew me. I vividly remember the first time staying at her marae, \u014Cwae Whaitara, and the vividness of my dreams that night as I lay beneath the whakairo of her t\u016Bpuna. It was Te Waka, who years earlier had shared with me a dream of her own in which she saw me standing in front of a large gathering of kaum\u0101tua speaking to them in te reo M\u0101ori, and I\u2019d laughed. If you\u2019d known me then you\u2019d understand what a wild dream that was. Te mutunga k\u0113 mai o te aroha noa o te Atua. [The true expression of the love of God.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000423\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EA few months later, I was at Wahapakapaka when she received her moko kauae. That evening we gathered for dinner at Frederic\u2019s and I found myself seated beside the moko ringatoi who had just given Te Waka her moko. This guy wasn\u2019t immediately stoked to be in my company, but two hours later we had started a friendship that has shaped and challenged me in ways I find hard to explain. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000424\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003ERangi Kipa and I couldn\u2019t come from more different worlds, and yet we share the same vision for Aotearoa. In Rangi, there is a generosity and patience and grace that beckons invitation. I know those of you who know him are going \u201CSeriously? In Rangi Kipa?\u201D, but there is. At an intellectual level, our understandings seem incompatible. But when nako speaks to nako, when wairua speaks to wairua, when we pause and really listen to one another, \u0101ta whakarongo [really listen]\u2014the kind of action Bishop Whakahuihui Vercoe called us all to on that sacred day at Waitangi in 1990: \u201CThen we find ourselves in a thin space, a place that changes us, a place that unites us.\u201D That\u2019s what I find it\u2019s like\u00A0with Te Waka and Jay Ruka and Hamuera Tamihana and Puna Wano-Bryant. Kei te mihi ki a koutou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000425\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EIn my experience, this is the \u0101hua of Taranaki\u2014strength, patience, generosity, and grace\u2014and he, Koro Taranaki, stands there majestically. He invites, and today this House, formally, at last acknowledges him.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000426\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003ELast November, after many years of yearning, my friend Te Waka finally had a child: Kahukura Te Hapai o Te Rangi M\u0101horahora. Could there be a more beautiful name\u2014and now it\u2019s in the Hansard.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000427\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002285fe3993699f4c62acd1bc6f7f8aeeaa\u0022\u003EHon Willie Jackson\u003C/span\u003E: Can you say it again?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000428\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u002266e2c50e2b034cd68975335b957ab7ff\u0022\u003EGREG FLEMING\u003C/span\u003E: Oh, I will. Kei te mihi ki a koe, Kahukura. Ko koe he taonga tuku iho n\u014D te Atua, he uri koe o koro Taranaki. T\u014D ingoa e k\u014Drero ai o te \u0101hua o t\u014D koro. I a au e rongo ana i t\u014D ingoa m\u014D te w\u0101 tuatahi, i huri \u014Dku whakaaro ki te \u0101hua o t\u014D iwi, o t\u014D maunga, o t\u014D koro. Ko Kahukura ko te matua tipuna o Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, \u0101, m\u0101 Taranaki t\u0101tau e h\u0101pai, m\u0101 Taranaki e piki ai t\u0101tau ki te rangi, m\u0101 Taranaki m\u0101tau e m\u0101horahora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000429\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EKoir\u0101 t\u014Dku wheako mahana o ng\u0101 uri o Taranaki, m\u0101 r\u0101tau ahau e mihi mai ki t\u0113tahi haerenga ki te ao M\u0101ori, he haerenga e k\u0101kahutia t\u014Dku m\u0101ramatanga o te wh\u0101nui me te h\u014Dhonu o t\u0113nei whenua, o t\u0113nei rangi. N\u0101 reira, he uri ahau o te m\u0101horahora o Taranaki. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000430\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003E[I acknowledge you, Kahukura. You are a treasure from God, a descendant of your elder, Taranaki. Your name describes the nature of your elder. When I heard your name for the first time, my thoughts turned to the nature of your tribe, your mountain, your elder. Kahukura is the founding ancestor of Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, and Taranaki will uphold us, Taranaki will enable us to ascend to the heavens, Taranaki will treat us with generosity. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000431\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EThat is my warm experience of the descendants of Taranaki, who have guided me on a journey into the M\u0101ori world, a journey which has enriched my understanding of the breadth and depth of this land and this sky. Thus, I am a descendant of the generosity of Taranaki.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000432\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221573c6f8-999b-434d-8bde-a47a586ee0f0\u0022\u003EI am a descendant of your generosity, and that is why it is my greatest honour to, with all my wairua, commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u0022679c40c05ad34470905266bb0e1345f7\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000433\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022679c40c05ad34470905266bb0e1345f7\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Ki aku whanaunga kua tae mai ki te whakanui i t\u0113nei kaupapa, t\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou. He h\u014Dnore nui ki te t\u016B i mua i a koutou. Ki a k\u014Drua, Jamie, Liana, ng\u0101 mihi ki a k\u014Drua m\u014D \u014D k\u014Drua mahi \u0101taahua. N\u014D reira, t\u0113nei te mihi, i whakarangatira i a m\u0101tau i t\u0113nei w\u0101. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tau katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000434\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E[To my kinspeople who have arrived here to celebrate this matter, I acknowledge you. It is a great honour to stand before you. To you, Jamie and Liana, I acknowledge you for your wonderful work. Thus, I acknowledge that you have blessed us today. Greetings to you, greetings to all of us.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000435\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s been a beautiful day there, Madam Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000436\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002261720d2e-5b1d-4742-b4f0-30424316ccc1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022118bfc680f3e42f48d86a1ddc59da4f9\u0022\u003EDEPUTY SPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Let\u2019s keep it that way. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000437\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022c6f36cf6ac2b45c6937807e9d83f9fdf\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON\u003C/span\u003E: Yes\u2014might read my speech now! But it has been a beautiful day, and I think that these are the types of kaupapa that do bring the House together. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000438\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI want to congratulate the Minister for shepherding this through. Well done to our Minister and particularly, obviously, our previous Minister Anaru over here\u2014Anaru Little\u2014who did a great job for us when we were in Government. We\u2019re really proud of Andrew\u2019s work. It\u2019s not easy to organise our people, and that\u2019s why we always put a P\u0101keh\u0101 in charge of Treaty settlements\u2014it\u2019s sort of been a bit of a strategy of ours in Labour because we\u2019re all related. But I\u2019m really proud to see this go through, so I do want to acknowledge the present Minister and the former Minister.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000439\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge\u2014and I missed it in my mihi\u2014Tariana Turia, who was the MP too for the area. So many here would have been playing a part in her tangi, and I want to mihi to the Turia wh\u0101nau at this stage, because we know that they\u2019re under this taumahatanga at the moment. I think we all send our aroha to them.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000440\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EBefore I get into some of the other side of this settlement\u2014and I think everyone\u2019s explained brilliantly how important it is and what it means\u2014I do want to address the elephant in the room. I know that with these types of kaupapa, we do whakakotahi for the kaupapa and we try not to get too political. But it is real, and I think Debbie Ngarewa-Packer talked about it and Ginny Andersen talked about it. When we are doing such beautiful settlements, we\u2019re under this huge cloud at the moment, and that\u2019s a real problem. As M\u0101ori, it\u2019s a real dilemma for us as M\u0101ori, because we have to negotiate with whoever the Government is. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000441\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI always say to our people that you\u2019ve just got to do the business. You\u2019ve got to negotiate, but you\u2019ve got te ao M\u0101ori at high alert here. We heard that from Rahui Papa the other day at R\u0101tana P\u0101 and I believe Jamie Tuuta was saying something today in the whaik\u014Drero, and it\u2019s not easy\u2014it\u2019s not easy when you\u2019re under a cloud. Here, we all come together for this kaupapa, and we\u2019ve got one party who wants to dismantle our constitution. They want to dismantle our constitution, and so we have to work our way through that. It infuriates me that that is still proceeding. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000442\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI want to say to all our people today that I\u2019m proud and Labour are proud\u2014all of the Opposition are proud\u2014of the way we have handled ourselves through this kaupapa, with a lot of dignity, and we get on with the business. Today is a tribute to that, and I want to mihi to everyone. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000443\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EAs some of you know out there, I too am a mokopuna of Taranaki. I know that some of you don\u2019t want to accept that, but my good friend Mahara Okeroa was always the reminder to me when we were MPs from 1999. He would always say, \u201CDon\u2019t you forget Taranaki\u201D\u2014that Batley side\u2014\u201Cand Ng\u0101ti Tama and everything else.\u201D, and I think that these times are sometimes sombre times, but there\u2019s so much to celebrate in terms of Taranaki and there are so many people and personalities to celebrate. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000444\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI\u2019ve talked about Jamie and Liana and their leadership, and I want to congratulate you both. We know how hard it is, Jamie, with you being the leader of just about everything and the chair of everything. We couldn\u2019t quite get you to stand for Labour, because we know that the p\u016Btea wasn\u2019t high enough, but I want to congratulate you, brother. I want to congratulate you. You\u2019re one of the true personalities, without doubt, of Taranaki and one of their leaders.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000445\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI want to congratulate my cousin Dion Tuuta, too, for his great mahi. Dion is my cousin. Our grandparents are brothers and sisters, believe it or not\u2014you didn\u2019t know that did you? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000446\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EYou see, I\u2019m hooked into this iwi. They\u2019re very, very close to me\u2014all my wh\u0101nau on that Batley side\u2014and I remember the great personalities who were great leaders and advocates. I remember my Auntie Hana Te Hemara, whom young Hana over here\u2014oh, she\u2019s out of the room now\u2014was named after, who put the M\u0101ori language petition up. She was one of the great fighters for Taranaki and for te ao M\u0101ori. My friend and relation Amokura Panoho\u2014is she here today? I hope she\u2019s here today\u2014yeah\u2014and she\u2019s been in my ear for years, I tell you. She drove me crazy sometimes, and she should have been an MP\u2014a fantastic advocate.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000447\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EMy good friend Dalvanius Prime, whom I had a lot to do with, as Deb Ngarewa did\u2014we did a lot of things in terms of M\u0101ori music; one of the great advocates for Taranaki. Howie Tamati\u2014my mate, who continually was in my head, telling me how useless rugby was. I want to mihi to him today. Mahara Okeroa was a great advocate for your people\u2014for our people. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000448\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI want to mihi to Ruakere and the Hond wh\u0101nau, and I\u2019m sure you\u2019re here somewhere\u2014kia ora\u2014and I remember well his parents, Pat and Jeff. He comes from great stock, our Ruakere\u2014one of the great academics and speakers of M\u0101ori in this country. Mihi nui ki a koe, e te whanaunga, for your mahi in terms of trying to cross over, trying to get everyone to understand what M\u0101ori messaging is all about. Well done to you and to your wh\u0101nau, Ruakere. It\u2019s a privilege to have you here today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000449\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI want to remember my old mate Te Kauhoe Wano, who was a huge part of my life when I was running our M\u0101ori radio set-up in Auckland. He\u2019s very, very special to me. When I was pretty sick years ago, he was my biggest supporter, and I always remember him when Parihaka comes around. Of course, his brother Whare Wano is up there, who\u2019s one of the great leaders of Taranaki. Whare, mihi nui ki a koe, e hoa. Yeah, I reckon you\u2019ve done a great job there\u2014you and your wife doing the business. I\u2019m still looking for a house, actually, to stay during Matatini, Whare, so if you can front up with something there, that\u2019d be terrific. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000450\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ESo many of these Taranaki people have been my wh\u0101nau and my friends, and probably my best mate has been a fella called Bernie O\u2019Donnell, who\u2019s up there in the audience. I mention Bernie not last because he\u2019s the last person, but I\u2019m very proud of him\u2014I\u2019m very proud of him. I\u2019m proud of him because of his upbringing, because he\u2019d been a ward of the State. I\u2019m proud of him because he made his life in the city with us. He worked in the freezing works with me and has been my friend since we were 18 years old, and I\u2019m proud of him because he stood up to all those iwi fundamentalists like Jamie Tuuta and all that lot, you know, and he talked about urban M\u0101ori rights. He made his name\u2014my brother up here\u2014in the city, and strong and tough. As I said, he was probably responsible for my union career, because he nominated me as a delegate in 1982\u2014wasn\u2019t it, Bernie? \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000451\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI\u2019m really proud of him, and what makes me even prouder is that he\u2019s gone home and he\u2019s working with the New Plymouth District Council. He\u2019s taken his p\u016Bkengas home and is talking to them about the Treaty, helping them with their reo, and I think that\u2019s the challenge for all our iwi. It\u2019s how do we keep that crossover going\u2014how do we keep incorporating our people who are not at home, who can\u2019t come back to New Plymouth but who live in the Poriruas and who live in the M\u0101ngeres? They\u2019re proudly iwi, but they don\u2019t have the resources and the funding to get home, and I think, Jamie, Liana, those are some of the challenges we face going forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000452\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003ECongratulations to my whanaunga today. It\u2019s just a lovely day, and I was just thinking about all those wonderful people who\u2019ve been part of my life and who will continue to be part of my life and who\u2019ve made Taranaki proud and, I think, make us all proud today. T\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou, he h\u014Dnore nui t\u0113nei. T\u0113nei te mihi ki a koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 an\u014D t\u0101tau katoa. [This is my acknowledgment to you. It is a great honour. This is my acknowledgment to you, greetings to you, greetings to us all.] Kia ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022 data-id=\u0022c438d5332a47453888970df262c0cebc\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000453\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c438d5332a47453888970df262c0cebc\u0022\u003EDAN BIDOIS (National\u2014Northcote):\u003C/span\u003E T\u012Bhei mauri ora. E ng\u0101 mana, e ng\u0101 reo, e ng\u0101 iwi, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Te Whare e t\u016B nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe, te papa e takoto nei, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. Ng\u0101 mate, haere, haere, haere atu r\u0101. Ka mihi ki te iwi k\u0101inga, ng\u0101 iwi o Taranaki. Nau mai, haere mai, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000454\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003E[The living spirits stirs. To the authorities, the voices and the tribes, greetings. The House standing here, greetings, the land lying here, greetings. To the deceased, depart and go well. I acknowledge the local tribe, the tribes of Taranaki. Welcome and greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000455\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s a pleasure to be here today. I\u2019m not going to do what Willie Jackson did and explain my connections to Taranaki\u2014I don\u2019t have any\u2014but it\u2019s truly an honour to be here today to witness this most historic occasion. Indeed, it\u2019s been an honour to help shepherd this bill through Parliament as the chair of M\u0101ori Affairs Committee at the time, to be welcomed to your rohe, to visit your maunga, to hear your submissions. I wish to thank you for your hospitality, your generosity, and your fine kai.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000456\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003ETo understand the significance of the maunga to your communities has been a great privilege\u2014to the past, to your t\u016Bpuna, to your wh\u0101nau and your lives in the present, and to your mokopuna in the future. What you see every morning and night is what your t\u016Bpuna saw hundreds of years ago, and it will be what future generations see many hundreds of years later. To me, the maunga\u2019s significance is clear in terms of providing sustenance, spiritual connection, wellbeing, and connection to your t\u016Bpuna. I am on record in this House as saying Taranaki Maunga is the most beautiful maunga in all of Aotearoa, and I stand by that statement. It is a beautiful maunga, and it has been a great privilege to visit it as part of the select committee process.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000457\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EAs members from across this House have signalled, this is a historic day. This is actually the 100th settlement, or collective redress bill, that this Parliament is due to pass, and I know that many of you have waited too long\u2014160 years\u2014for this moment. This bill, in terms of its details, explains the historical account of what the Crown did. It issues an apology, provides resource contributions. It creates a living person\u2014Te K\u0101hui Tupua\u2014and a legal entity to act on behalf of that legal person. It changes the name of the maunga and gives access to the iwi for certain facilities on the maunga. But, most importantly, it is a chance for the Crown and this Parliament to acknowledge the past and right the wrongs of the past so that the iwi of Taranaki can focus on the future. And the future looks bright for Taranaki. Under this bill, there will be a new arrangement that will enable input from iwi and the Department of Conservation (DOC) into the management of the maunga, to unlock the potential of the maunga for many areas\u2014economically, socially, and environmentally\u2014to ensure that the maunga is taken care of well into the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000458\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EI do wish to acknowledge the concerns that were raised in the select committee process, in particular those from local mountain clubs and the uncertainty caused. My message to them is clear: concessions will continue, the process for new concessions is clear and transparent, and the intent is for public access to continue in perpetuity. But Parliament can\u2019t legislate for relationships, and one thing I noticed, and my members on the select committee noticed when we were there, was that there was a real willingness of iwi of Taranaki to engage with those mountain clubs in the future. To them, I\u2019d say: engage the iwi and I\u2019m sure your issues will be addressed in the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000459\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EI just want to wrap up and acknowledge the many, many people who have brought this bill to where it is today: former Minister Andrew Little and current Ministers Paul Goldsmith and Tama Potaka. I\u2019d like to acknowledge the members of the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee, and the local MPs, who worked hard to ensure that they were kept abreast of the bill and made time to hear the submissions as well. Negotiators Ian Hicks, Hannah Morris from Te Arawhiti, Andrew McLennan from DOC\u2014I always get the name confused; sorry, Andrew. The clerks from the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee: Tui, Paquita, and Louis, thank you for your hard work in arranging select committee visits. To Jamie, maybe we can get you to run for the National Party sometime in the future! To Hemi and Liana, thank you for what you do for your communities.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000460\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f429fecb-a955-4d95-8105-e5144e651204\u0022\u003EIt is a great day for this Parliament and one of the rare occasions when this Parliament agrees in unison on the path forward. We welcome back the restored name \u201CTe Papa-Kura-o-Taranaki\u201D. We say haere r\u0101 to \u201CMount Egmont\u201D, and we say haere mai, hoki mai to \u201CTe Papa-Kura-o-Taranaki\u201D. I commend this bill to the House. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022 data-id=\u0022f2ce6c944d374aadb3f158886c774f77\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000461\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022f2ce6c944d374aadb3f158886c774f77\u0022\u003EGLEN BENNETT (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E He h\u014Dnore, he kor\u014Dria ki te Atua, he maung\u0101rongo ki te whenua, he whakaaro pai ki ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000462\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003E[Honour and glory unto God, peace on earth and goodwill to all people.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000463\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EIt is always an interesting day to stand in this House and to have a collective, supportive approach to a piece of legislation. As the Hon Willie Jackson more than alluded to\u2014he talked about it\u2014this is a House of contradictions, at times. In the morning, MPs in this place, in the Justice Committee, are debating the Treaty principles bill, and in the afternoon we are sitting here in connection, in solidarity, supporting this piece of legislation. And no, Willie Jackson, my couch is not available, by the way!\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000464\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EAs I look at and consider what this means for all of us in the gallery, all of us around Taranaki, all of us around Aotearoa, and all of our ancestors and wh\u0101nau around the world, I think we need to consider that this place, even though it has done so much harm and has hurt so many people, can also be a place that brings hope\u2014or, should I say, allows hope, because we are not the deliverers of hope; we\u2019re the people who create opportunities, I think, for us as a community to then be the instigators, the creators of hope in the future together. This place can be argy-bargy, it can be a place where the contest of ideas crash\u00A0head-on, and I\u2019m glad that as we sit and we ponder today, we stand in unity together. This is a scary place but it can actually be a place that brings us together and allows hope to come.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000465\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EI want to acknowledge our ancestors\u2014your ancestors\u2014as we had our mihi whakatau earlier. To see in the gallery this afternoon photos of those who have gone before us, to think of those who are in our hearts and our minds right now, who are no longer with us, recently passed or passed decades or centuries ago\u2014we acknowledge those people because they have brought us to this place\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000466\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EI listened earlier and heard about and read about what happened in the late 1970s, in my lifetime, when the generosity that the Government allowed you to have was returned and then taken away again. I really consider that we need to see the way we move forward and continue to grow and bring our communities, bring our cultures, and bring Te Tiriti together.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000467\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003ENow, many people consider the fact that the breaches of the Crown, the challenges of a century or two ago, are those things that many people, if you walk down the streets of New Plymouth, will say, \u201COh, well, that was in the past.\u201D But as we know, in the last decade there have been things done on your beautiful maunga that were not right, that broke tikanga\u2014things like barbecues at the top and ashes left behind and fires lit\u2014things that my P\u0101keh\u0101 ancestors need to apologise for.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000468\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EToday, I want us to consider about how we move forward from here\u2014how do we move to a place 15 years away from the commemoration of the signing of Te Tiriti o Waitangi? What is my responsibility and my response? As I leave this place this afternoon, it is to continue to educate myself and continue to educate my people, because so often I listen and I learn and I realise that you were all waiting for me to catch up\u2014you\u2019re all waiting for my people to hurry up and get on the waka together.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000469\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00221cd33f16-add4-4363-a2d4-f457841a5c4c\u0022\u003EToday I want to acknowledge the iwi of Taranaki: Ng\u0101ti Tama, Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, Taranaki Iwi, Te Atiawa, Ng\u0101ti Maru, Ng\u0101ruahine, Ng\u0101ti Ruanui, Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi\u2014the settlements you\u2019ve been through, also the Parihaka Reconciliation Bill, and now we are here. How do we move forward? I commit to working with my people that we can be good Te Tiriti partners, that the legacy that I will leave is that my people are educated and understand that we can walk together to 2040.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022 data-id=\u0022731f14b3e8354cddb9403818249e11d9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000470\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022731f14b3e8354cddb9403818249e11d9\u0022\u003ECARL BATES (National\u2014Whanganui):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. Ko Ruapehu te maunga, ko Whanganui te awa. N\u014D Whanganui ahau. Ko Carl Bates taku ingoa. Ko mema P\u0101remata Whanganui. T\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000471\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003E[Greetings to you all. Ruapehu is the mountain, Whanganui is the river. I am from Ruapehu. My name is Carl Bates. I am the member of Parliament for Whanganui. Greetings to you all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000472\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EI want to take the opportunity to start off by welcoming those from Ng\u0101 Iwi o Taranaki from across Taranaki to this House today. As one of the four directly elected representatives of yours in this House, along with my colleagues Debbie Ngarewa-Packer, Barbara Kuriger, and David MacLeod, I welcome you to this House, as your directly elected representatives, as I say, will play a role in the future of this legislation here.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000473\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EJenny Marcroft referenced the story of Taranaki Maunga, and indeed it\u2019s one that I shared in my maiden speech. I was going to reference it this afternoon because it doesn\u2019t fall lightly, or the sort of context of that story, the journey of Taranaki Maunga down the Whanganui awa, up the South Taranaki coast, ultimately to the place that it now lays\u2014connects with the journey of personhood that\u2019s been taken through this House of Representatives, with Te Awa Tupua being passed in 2017 and now the passing of this legislation today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000474\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EThese days in this House are significant. They\u2019re milestones. They\u2019re days that are not easily forgotten and are certainly taken with a heaviness by all members here on the floor. I was reflecting, coming into the House today, on the words of Minister Goldsmith earlier today when he spoke about Egmont 250 years ago, sailing past and deciding to call this mountain \u201CEgmont\u201D, and that many of us will be the last generation that will know what Mount Egmont was or meant or the context that it holds. Today, down here in Wellington, my six-year-old son Angus has been spending the last couple of days of the school holidays and he will only know this maunga as Taranaki Maunga, and I think that is significant and something for us all to treasure.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000475\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EI want to just acknowledge the feedback that my colleagues took on board from us as the local members of Parliament through the select committee process. We shared some of the feedback that was being received, and that\u2019s already been referenced by my colleague Dan Bidois. But this legislation does bring a new set of k\u014Drero that\u2019s going to commence, as, I suppose, in my language, this new situation is put into practice. It\u2019s going to require trust, collaboration, work, and engagement across iwi, Crown, the Department of Conservation, council, and mountain users.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000476\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003EIn my maiden speech, I also referred to another little quote that I learnt as a youngster, as a Scout climbing on Taranaki Maunga a few years back, and that was \u201CTake only photos and leave only footprints\u201D. I think, in many ways, the spirit of that language is one that I know will be part of the k\u014Drero that will happen as we look forward.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000477\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u00229634e377-7e76-4353-9662-fb444eb2ec9d\u0022\u003ELast year, I had the opportunity to visit Aotea Marae with Minister Potaka and we had somewhat of a robust k\u014Drero. I look forward to the opportunity to visit again both Aotea Marae and others across both the Whanganui electorate and Taranaki as we go through this process that will come as this legislation is turned into practice. It is an honour and a privilege to commend this bill to the House this evening.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022 data-id=\u002213346e01d69b425a8076b32bfb5a1fd8\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000478\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002213346e01d69b425a8076b32bfb5a1fd8\u0022\u003EHon PEENI HENARE (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te M\u0101ngai o te Whare. E kara, e Ruakere, ka whai whakaaro ake ahau me p\u0113hea r\u0101 t\u0113nei hei t\u012Bmatanga k\u016Brero ki roto i te kaupapa kua whakak\u0101hui t\u0101tau i te r\u0101 nei. Me k\u012B p\u0113nei ki t\u014D t\u0101ua tupuna, ki a Taranaki, e Taranaki, n\u0101u taku arero M\u0101ori i t\u014Dt\u014Dia mai i taku ng\u0101kau kia puta ki te whai ao, ki te ao m\u0101rama. E te maunga, e Taranaki, n\u0101u taku ng\u0101kau kia puta ake ki te ao m\u0101rama hei tirohanga m\u0101 te katoa. N\u0101u, e Taranaki, taku t\u016Bnga hei whakam\u0101nawa ake ki a koe i t\u0113nei rangi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000479\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EE ng\u0101 uri, e ng\u0101 whanaunga, huri noa i t\u014D t\u0101tau whare, me he tuanui kore ki runga i t\u0113nei whare ka kite atu koutou te h\u0101uaua ki waho r\u0101. K\u0101ore e kore, ka whai whakaaro te M\u0101ori he aha t\u0113nei tohu o te ua. He hokinga mahara ki te hunga kua riro atu ki te p\u014D, he t\u0101nga manawa ki roto i ng\u0101 p\u0113hitanga o te w\u0101. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000480\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti, ka tahuri ake aku whakaaro ki \u014Dku r\u0101t\u0101 t\u016Btahi, ki \u014Dku nohoanga tiro atu i te rangi awatea, ki a r\u0101tau kua wehe atu ki te p\u014D, ka k\u012B ake ahau kia haut\u016B t\u014D koutou waka, \u0101, ki te makuru o taku mahara, kia pako ai te rangi, kia tauwahi ake ki runga o Pauahi, ki runga o te rerenga t\u014Dpuni, ki runga an\u014D hoki i a m\u0101ramatanga, kia puta ake ng\u0101 uri e k\u014Drero ana i te r\u0101 nei i te m\u0101ramatanga i kawea nei e te hunga wairua ki roto i ng\u0101 tau maha kua pahure ake nei. Ko ng\u0101 ingoa kei \u014Dku ngutu, e \u014Dku rangatira, ko te hunga rongonui kua rangona e m\u0101ua ko taringa i te r\u0101 nei, an\u0101, kua k\u014Drerohia e t\u014Dku matua a Wiri ki te \u0101huatanga ki a Kahurangi Tariana Turia, koia ko te whakatinanatanga o t\u014Dna awa me \u014Dna k\u014Dpikonga katoa. Ahakoa kua riro atu, kei runga tonu i te pae o mahara. Ka whai whakaaro ake ahau ki t\u0113tahi o ng\u0101 t\u0101ngata rongonui rawa atu ki roto i a au, ar\u0101 ko Huirangi Waikerepuru. Ahakoa kua k\u014Drero mai a Taranaki Wh\u0101nui n\u0101 r\u0101tau t\u0113r\u0101 kaum\u0101tua, ka k\u012B ake ahau, k\u0101hore, n\u014D roto mai i a au, o Ng\u0101puhi. Engari ko ia kei te k\u016Brae o aku mahara i t\u0113nei w\u0101 tonu. N\u0101, ka tahuri ake ki t\u0113tahi atu o ng\u0101 tino kaum\u0101tua rongonui o te k\u0101inga o Taranaki, an\u0101, ki a Tiki Raumati. Hoki ake aku mahara ki te t\u0101ima i mate te kaum\u0101tua r\u0101 me te totohe o te iwi kei hea te takotoranga whakamutunga o t\u0113nei kaum\u0101tua, me tana hiahia kia takoto ki waenganui i te hunga n\u0101 r\u0101tau t\u014D koutou whenua i t\u0101hae. He aha ai? Hei tohu maharatanga m\u014D te hunga P\u0101keh\u0101, hei tohu maharatanga m\u014D ng\u0101 reanga me ng\u0101 whakatipuranga e haere ake nei. K\u0101ti, ka tangi tonu te ng\u0101kau ki a r\u0101tau kua wehe atu ki te p\u014D. Ki roto i te reo o Ng\u0101puhi, ka k\u012B ake ahau, haere mai, haere. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000481\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u0101, ka whakahokia mai ng\u0101 r\u0101rangi k\u014Drero ki a t\u0101tau, te hunga ora. E te tuakana e Jamie, k\u014Drua tahi ko t\u014Dku tuakana ko Hemi me te tuahine, Liana, ka mea mai taku matua ki a au i mua i t\u014Dna matenga, \u201CE Peeni, ko koe t\u0101ku k\u016Bmara kino nei te kawa, waiho m\u0101 t\u014D iwi koutou e whakareka ake.\u201D Kei konei m\u0101tau e whakareka ana i a koutou, e \u014Dku k\u016Bmara. N\u0101 koutou \u0113nei mahi taumaha, ki te whakatutuki i ng\u0101 moemoe\u0101 \u014D t\u0101ua m\u0101tua, \u014D t\u0101ua t\u016Bpuna. N\u014D reira e mihi atu ana ki a koutou engari k\u0101ore i te mea ka mihi ki a koutou anake, engari ki te tini, ki te mano e h\u0101pai nei i t\u0113nei kaupapa, t\u0113nei ka mihi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000482\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti, ka whakaaro ake ahau ki te \u0101huatanga o ng\u0101 k\u014Drero kua rangona e m\u0101ua ko taringa i te r\u0101 nei e p\u0101 ana ki t\u0113nei kaupapa. Ko \u0113tahi, ka k\u012B ake ahau e p\u016B ana a roto, e h\u0113 ana a waho. Ko \u0113tahi ka k\u012B ake ahau ka kite a \u201CPeeni i te kokonga o te ng\u0101kau.\u201D Ko \u0113tahi ka k\u012B ake ahau k\u0101ti r\u0101 t\u0113nei mahi t\u014Drangap\u016B, t\u0113nei mahi p\u014Dheahea rawa atu o te mahi porotiki. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000483\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EH\u0101unga r\u0101 ko \u0113n\u0101 whakaaro, koia ko te kaupapa kua karanga hui ai t\u0101tau i te r\u0101 nei kia whakanui ake i te hunga e noho mai ana ki runga nei, ki \u014D r\u0101tau wh\u0101nau, ki \u014D r\u0101tau t\u016Bpuna n\u0101 r\u0101tau t\u0113nei kaupapa i t\u012Bmata i te hia tau ki muri. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000484\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKo te \u0101huatanga o \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 k\u014Drero me k\u012B p\u0113nei ake ahau ki te Whare, kua rongo atu ahau i te k\u014Drero o \u014Dku ake n\u014D roto o Ng\u0101puhi me tana hari, me tana koa kua takoha e ia me t\u014Dku matua, a Matua Shane, i te rahi p\u016Btea ki ng\u0101 whare huhua katoa ki roto o Taranaki. \u0100e, me mihi ka tika. Engari me p\u0113nei pea t\u0101ku k\u014Drero ki a t\u0101tau, ahakoa te papai o taku whare, he aha te take o taku whare mehemea e h\u0113manawa ana ahau. Ahakoa te \u0101taahua o taku whare, he aha te take mehemea kei te p\u014Duri tonu ahau. Ka waiho ake t\u0113n\u0101 whakaaro ki a t\u0101tau, e \u014Dku rangatira, i te r\u0101 nei. Ko ng\u0101 nawe, ko ng\u0101 mamaetanga katoa o te ao M\u0101ori, ka kore e ea i te rahi p\u016Btea, ahakoa te nui, te iti r\u0101nei o te rahi. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000485\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EKua rongo atu ahau i \u0113tahi o ng\u0101 k\u014Drero e kimi atu ana i te whakapapa ki roto i a kouotu o Ng\u0101puhi, n\u0101, kua rongo koutou, koutou o Ng\u0101puhi. Ki te hunga e m\u014Dhio ana ki t\u0113r\u0101 k\u014Drero tinihanga, \u0101e, ka kata. An\u0101, ko ng\u0101 p\u0101nga katoa kei waenganui i a t\u0101tau koinei taku hari i te r\u0101 nei, kua ara mai an\u014D. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000486\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI rongo atu ahau i te k\u014Drero a t\u014Dku whaea, a Deb nei, mo te kaha o te r\u014Dp\u016B kapa haka o P\u0101tea. Ka hoki \u014Dku mahara ki t\u014Dku tupuna, ki a H\u0101mi Paraima, ka hoki taku mahara ki t\u014Dku matua, ki a Dalvanius Paraima. Ko ng\u0101 uri o M\u014Dtatau i haere atu ki roto i a koutou kia tuituia te herenga whakapapa ki waenganui i a t\u0101ua. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000487\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EN\u0101, koinei te take ka whakaaro ake an\u014D au, e te, e kara, e Ruakere, ki te \u0101huatanga o t\u014Dku maunga, o M\u014Dtatau. N\u0101, ko te kaupapa e p\u0101 ana ki a Taranaki i te r\u0101 nei, e mihi atu ana. Me p\u0113r\u0101 an\u014D ka tika ki roto i \u014D t\u0101tau k\u0101inga katoa, huri noa i te motu wh\u0101nui. E mea ana \u014Dku m\u0101tua, t\u016Bpuna ko t\u014Dku maunga o M\u014Dtatau koia ko te tatau ki te reinga, te tatau ki \u014D t\u0101tau m\u0101tua, t\u016Bpuna. \u0100e m\u0101rika, he tapu kei roto i t\u0113r\u0101 k\u014Drero. \u0100e m\u0101rika, he mauri tangata, he mauri tupuna, he mauri atua ki roto i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero e p\u0101 ana ki t\u014Dku maunga. Me p\u0113r\u0101, ka tika ki ng\u0101 maunga huri noa i te motu wh\u0101nui kei k\u012Bia he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000488\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EK\u0101ti. E te M\u0101ngai o te Whare, kua kite atu ahau kua \u0101hua tata pau te w\u0101 ki a au nei. E \u014Dku whanaunga o Taranaki, \u0101 taihoa ake nei ka tau te ao M\u0101ori ki runga i a koutou m\u014D Te Matatini te take. Ko te hiahia kia hur\u014D katoa te ao M\u0101ori ki ng\u0101 whakaotinga o te kaupapa kua whakak\u0101hui t\u0101tau i te r\u0101 nei. Kia rangona e te ao M\u0101ori, e te ao wh\u0101nui, ng\u0101 waiata, ng\u0101 haka, i ng\u0101 k\u014Drero katoa e p\u0101 ana ki t\u014D koutou k\u0101inga. N\u014D reira, karanga mai ki te motu wh\u0101nui ka tau ki runga i a koutou \u0101 te marama e t\u016B mai nei. Ka mutu te kaupapa ki roto i a au o Waitangi, ka tere te h\u014Diho ki waenganui i a koutou hei whakanui ake i t\u014D t\u0101ua ao M\u0101ori. Ko reira an\u014D t\u0101tau mihi ki a t\u0101tau an\u014D, ko reira an\u014D t\u0101tau tangi tahi ki \u014D t\u0101tau mate, kei reira an\u014D t\u0101tau e whakahua ake i te kaupapa kua hui mai nei t\u0101tau i te r\u0101 nei. N\u014D reira, ko t\u0101ku k\u014Drero whakamutunga ki a koutou, e kara, e Ruakere, haere hoki atu koutou ki te w\u0101 k\u0101inga ki runga i ng\u0101 manaakitanga o te W\u0101hi Ngaro, \u0101, taihoa ake nei t\u0101tau katoa hui tahi ai, noho tahi ai. T\u0113n\u0101 koe, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou. E te M\u0101ngai o te Whare, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tau katoa. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000489\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Madam Speaker. Friend, Ruakere, I have been thinking about how to start my speech about the topic that we have gathered for today. I should say thus to our ancestor, Taranaki, you drew forth my M\u0101ori tongue from my heart to the world of potential and light. To the mountain, Taranaki, you gave me my heart to come forth into the world of light to be gazed upon by all the people. It was you, Taranaki, who enabled me to stand here today to celebrate you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000490\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ETo the descendants, to the kinspeople across our House, if there was no roof over this House, you would see the rain falling outside. Without doubt, M\u0101ori would reflect upon the meaning of the rain. It is a recollection of those people who have passed away, it is respite from the pressures of the day. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000491\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThus, my thoughts turn to my lone-standing r\u0101t\u0101, to the places where I gazed upon the dawn sky, to those who have departed to the underworld, and I say let your canoe be safely steered, to the abundance of recollection, so the heavens may crackle upon the location at Pauahi, on the close journey, on the basis of enlightenment, so that the descendants who are speaking today may experience the enlightenment borne by the departed through the many years gone by. The names that come to my lips, my chiefs, include the famous people who we have heard about today\u2014that is, my elder Willie has spoken about Dame Tariana Turia, she who was the personification of her river and all its bends. Although she has departed, she remains firmly in our minds. I think of one of the best-known people within my tribe\u2014that is, Huirangi Waikerepuru. Despite the claims of Taranaki Wh\u0101nui that this elder is from their tribes, I say, no, he is from my tribe of Ng\u0101puhi. Notwithstanding, he is at the forefront of my mind on this occasion. Now, I turn to one of the most well-known elders across Taranaki, to Tiki Raumati. My thoughts return to the time this elder passed away and the debate with the tribe as to where the final resting place of this elder should be, in light of his wish to be buried among the people who stole your lands. Why? As a reminder to P\u0101keh\u0101 people. As a reminder to the generations that follow. Enough, my heart still mourns those who have departed to the afterlife. In the language of Ng\u0101puhi, I say come forth, and depart. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000492\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ENow, I return to the commentary about us, the living. To my elder sibling Jamie, together with my elder sibling Hemi and sister Liana, my father said to me before his death, \u201CPeeni, you are the most sour k\u016Bmara, it shall be for your people to make you sweeter.\u201D We are here acknowledging you to make you sweeter, my k\u016Bmara. You have carried these difficult duties to fulfil the dreams of our parents and our elders. Thus, I acknowledge you, although not just you but the many people who have supported this matter. I acknowledge you. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000493\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ESo I reflect on dimensions of the speeches that I have heard today about this matter. Some I describe as well-intentioned but poorly delivered. Some I\u2019d say that Peeni can see the depths of feelings from the heart. Some I\u2019d say stop playing politics, it is foolish to make politics. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000494\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003ENotwithstanding those thoughts, this is the matter that has called us together today to celebrate the people sitting above in the gallery, their families, and their ancestors who began this matter so many years ago. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000495\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EWith regard to some of the speeches, I have this to say to the House: I have heard the speech of my kin from Ng\u0101puhi and their pleasure to note the provision of significant funding for housing initiatives across Taranaki, together with my elder, Matua Shane. Yes, this should be acknowledged. But I say this to us: despite the quality of the house, what is the benefit of my house if I am distressed? Despite the fine appearance of my house, what is the benefit if I am still depressed? I leave that, though, with us today, my chiefs. The ills and the pains of the M\u0101ori world will not be resolved by funding, regardless of how large or small it may be. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000496\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI have heard some of the speeches seeking out whakapapa connections with you within Ng\u0101puhi\u2014yes, you have heard that, you of Ng\u0101puhi. To the people who understand that faux pas, yes, you will giggle. I say I am pleased today that all the connections among us have been raised up to be celebrated. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000497\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EI have heard the comments by my elder, Deb, about the prowess of the P\u0101tea M\u0101ori Club. My thoughts return to my ancestor, H\u0101mi Paraima, and my thoughts return to my uncle, Dalvanius Paraima. These are the descendants of M\u014Dtatau who went among you to make the whakapapa connections between us. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000498\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EThus, my friend Ruakere, I reflect upon the aspect of my mountain of M\u014Dtatau. The matter of the day relates to Taranaki, and I acknowledge that. It would be proper to take this approach across all of our settlements, right across the nation. My parents and elders described my mountain of M\u014Dtatau as the entranceway to the underworld, the passage of our parents and elders. Indeed, there is sacredness in that narrative. Indeed, there is the vital essence of humankind, of our ancestors and deities in the narrative about my mountain. The same is true of our tribal mountains, across the nation, so they may be personified. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000499\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e77494a0-1be1-432f-b492-fd160f4c119d\u0022\u003EEnough, I see that my time is running short. To my kinspeople from Taranaki, shortly the M\u0101ori world will descend upon you for Te Matatini. I hope that the M\u0101ori world celebrates the achievements associated with this matter that we have gathered here today to address, so that the M\u0101ori world, and the wider world, may hear the songs, the haka, all the narratives about your home. Thus, welcome the nation who will come upon you in the upcoming month. When the matters within my domain of Waitangi are complete, the horse shall speed to you to celebrate our M\u0101ori world. There we shall greet each other again, there we shall weep again for our deceased, there we shall discuss again the matter that we have assembled here for today. This, as my final message for you, my friend Ruakere, return home with the blessings of the Almighty, and soon we shall meet again and spend time together. I greet you, I greet you all. Mr Speaker, greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022 data-id=\u002266baf1e0428b4cf395eb288235976eea\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000500\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002266baf1e0428b4cf395eb288235976eea\u0022\u003EDAVID MacLEOD (National\u2014New Plymouth):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te M\u0101ngai. Tamarau n\u014D runga i te rangi, heke iho ki raro ki te whakamaremare, t\u0113 tatari ai ki te hurahanga o te t\u0101pora o Rongouiroa, taku kuia \u0113, taku kuia \u0113, te ara o taku tupuna i t\u014Dia ai au ko Te \u0100ti Awa n\u014D runga i te rangi, ko te toki te tangatanga i te r\u0101, taringa mang\u014D ko te kete nei, ue ha, ue ha. \u0100, t\u012Bhei mauri ora. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000501\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker. Tamarau from upon the heavens, descending to te whakamaremare, without waiting for the cooking basket of Rongouiroa to be uncovered, my grandmother, my grandmother, the pathway of my ancestor whereby I was brought forth through Te \u0100ti Awa of the heavens, the adze that loosened the sun, the shark\u2019s ear in the kit. Indeed, indeed. It is the sneeze of life.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000502\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EThis ngeri I\u2019ve just recited recounts the origins of a number of iwi o Taranaki\u2014specifically those of the Tokomaru waka and descendants of Awanui\u0101rangi. The reasons why I recited this ngeri was to remind everyone that mana whenua, tangata whenua, here in P\u014Dneke and the greater Wellington region and, indeed, across the strait to the top of the South Island, o Te Tauihu, have strong connections back to Taranaki also. There are many wh\u0101nau, hap\u016B down here in these parts who have ancestral links back to Taranaki and whose wh\u0101nau reside here as a result of the heke, or the migrations, that took place particularly between 1822 and 1833. It\u2019s also an important occasion for the tangata whenua of the land that I stand on today.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000503\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EThe eight iwi of Taranaki\u2014Ng\u0101ti Tama, Ng\u0101ti Mutunga, Te \u0100ti Awa, Taranaki T\u016Bturu, Ng\u0101ruahine, Ng\u0101ti Maru, Ng\u0101ti Ruanui, and Ngaa Rauru Kiitahi\u2014have all been waiting a very, very long time for this redress to occur. All eight completed their own individual settlements, and, now, the attention appropriately turns to addressing the historical injustices and recognising the importance of Taranaki Maunga and its surrounding peaks to tangata whenua. There are other peaks, or t\u016Bpuna, also included in this address, other than Taranaki\u2014the likes of Panitahi, also known as Fanthams Peak. To the south of Taranaki and on the northwestern side we have Pou\u0101kai and Patuha and Kaitake.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000504\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EAs you could imagine, there are many legends about Taranaki, and some of them have already been mentioned today. But I did want to mention that Taranaki had a name prior to Taranaki, Pukeonaki, and I heard that mentioned today\u2014I think it was Ruakere that talked of that. Pukeonaki was the name when he was standing near T\u016Brangi, prior to having a bit of a k\u014Drero and a bit of a fisticuffs with Tongariro. The name Taranaki originated from the first ancestors of the Taranaki iwi\u2014or the first ancestor\u2014and that was o Taranaki T\u016Bturu. His name was Rua Taranaki, and he travelled high up into the source of the Hangatahua stream, or the Stony River, where he ceremonially anchored the mountain to have his name.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000505\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EWhen Captain James Cook sailed past on 10 January 1770, the mountain that he saw already had a name, and one can only imagine the distaste to M\u0101ori to learn he had been given a new name from some mate back in England. But, thankfully, only a short time\u2014a short time; 216 years!\u2014later, Taranaki was brought back as a dual name. It wasn\u2019t until 2020 that the name Mount Egmont was appropriately removed, and the mountain will, now, only be known as Taranaki Maunga.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000506\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EThe Parliament of New Zealand met for the first time on 24 May 1854 in Auckland, and it was only a very short time later, in 1865, that the 53 MPs of the then Parliament proclaimed 1.2 million acres of Taranaki land, including Taranaki Maunga, confiscated. Coincidentally, that happened to be the same year that Parliament moved from Auckland down here to P\u014Dneke Wellington. It has taken a subsequent 160 years since then to get this redress before us today\u2014160 years of M\u0101ori tangata whenua, uri o Taranaki, not being able to authentically connect to their t\u016Bpuna.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000507\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003ESeeing the wonderful developments at the Ng\u0101ti Ruanui Stratford Mountain House and the soon-to-be-opened Ng\u0101ruahine Dawson Falls Lodge provides great examples and a glimpse of the very positive outcomes M\u0101ori can provide for all. And there\u2019s more to come soon with the proposed redevelopment of the North Taranaki centre, which will hopefully begin soon and be owned and managed by tangata whenua.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000508\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EFor far too long, M\u0101ori have been excluded from Taranaki Maunga. Having M\u0101ori at the decision-making table makes absolute sense, and allowing tangata whenua to genuinely connect with their t\u016Bpuna and allow meaningful interaction will help pave the way to a very good future. It is impossible to ignore the wrongdoings of the past and the scars they leave; they are deep, and there are many over a long time. But I am confident that if we concentrate our effort and focus on the future and the mana of the maunga is recognised in a M\u0101ori way and not just as a landscape, future generations will prosper in a spiritual, cultural, and physical way.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000509\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003ETaranaki Maunga shapes the physical landscape of our region, and it provides a rich store of biodiversity. Our weather is largely defined by our maunga. It has over 530 named tributaries and streams that flow from it, and it is an often-photographed landscape from space. Taranaki has some of the most fertile land in New Zealand, accompanied by a plentiful amount of rainfall and sunshine\u2014it\u2019s not always raining. It\u2019s a very special place to visit, a place to get away from the hustle and bustle of our busy lives. There are many recreational options up there\u2014from half-hour walks to more adventurous multi-day tramps, including stays at various huts. During winter, you can ski on the Manganui field when there\u2019s snow, and, of course, you can attempt to climb to the top.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000510\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EUnfortunately, though, many people have lost their lives on our maunga. In fact, the records to 2017 show that 84 people have lost their lives, with it being classed the second most dangerous maunga behind Aoraki when it comes to fatalities. It is one of those places. When you look at its peaks, it looks so close, it looks stunning, it looks so easy to climb, but, tragically, some get caught out by the changeable weather, lack of preparedness, the technical ability required, or simply underestimate the fitness required. It\u2019s a place to be respected in more ways than one.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000511\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EIt\u2019s also a great place for education. I can fondly remember at primary school going to Konini Lodge and learning about flora and fauna, learning how pests affect our biodiversity, learning how not to get lost when tramping, learning what to do when you do get lost, and also daring to bathe in the ice-cold waters at the base of Dawson Falls, o Te Rere o Noke, and then spending hours trying to thaw.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000512\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EToday marks a very special day for ng\u0101 iwi o Taranaki. It is the start of a healing process, a start of a new beginning, a start of new hope. This bill is the 100th settlement to take place, and it is the third to use the concept of a legal personality. I could talk about some of the details of the redress, but that\u2019s been well mentioned already. But I do want to join the acknowledgment and the mahi of those that were part of the negotiating process\u2014both on the Crown side and also on the iwi side. I do wonder, though, what Jamie Tuuta is going to focus on now. I was once told that he had more chairs than Harvey Norman. Maybe he could buy a furniture business\u2014I don\u2019t know\u2014or maybe he could actually come down here. I\u2019ll help you out, Jamie, but just don\u2019t get me in charge of your donation returns. We won\u2019t go there.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000513\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EThere are many leaders of Taranaki in the gallery, today, and we see them all here. Only one thing I do think of is au\u0113 if the bus crashes\u2014boy, what would that actually say?\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000514\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EI also acknowledge the Hon Chris Finlayson, Eugenie Sage, Willow-Jean Prime, Andrew Little, and Paul Goldsmith for their leadership but, mostly, I would like to acknowledge the many who worked so hard and for so long for better outcomes for Taranaki M\u0101ori and, indeed, M\u0101ori katoa who are no longer with us today. Having lived in Taranaki all my life, I feel humbled and privileged to speak on this bill that means so much to so many from the place that I call home. It is the righting of a wrong, but it\u2019s also an opportunity for us to move forward with great hope, free from muru raupatu. N\u014D reira, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 koutou, t\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000515\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000516\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EBill read a third time.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000517\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EWaiata\u2014\u201CTukutuku roimata e\u201D\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000518\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EHaka\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000519\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u0022e5b4599ad6b94d9987a7d8ae0b9e14db\u0022\u003EAppointments\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000520\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00224f21d6ecb433418382fa1ee89ebf7e20\u0022\u003EChief Ombudsman\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022 data-id=\u0022d9248db4b1784dc394af0d113387ddd2\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000521\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022d9248db4b1784dc394af0d113387ddd2\u0022\u003EHon ANDREW BAYLY (Minister of Commerce and Consumer Affairs) \u003C/span\u003Eon behalf of the Leader of the House: I move, That, under sections 3(1) and 5(1) of the Ombudsmen Act 1975, the House recommend to the Governor-General that John Richard Allen be appointed as an Ombudsman for a term of 5 years and that, under section 3(4) of the Ombudsmen Act 1975, upon taking up the office of Ombudsman, John Richard Allen be appointed as Chief Ombudsman with effect from the date that the incumbent Chief Ombudsman vacates the position.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000522\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EThe Officers of Parliament Committee has presented a report to the House recommending the appointment of John Richard Allen as Chief Ombudsman. The Office of the Ombudsmen plays an important role in upholding New Zealand\u2019s democratic systems. It is an organisation that is able to undertake a number of inquiries following requests from members of the public. One of the most prominent roles is its application of the Official Information Act.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000523\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EMr Allen is the chancellor of Te Herenga Waka\u2014Victoria University of Wellington, and the chief executive of WellingtonNZ. He\u2019s a former chief executive of the New Zealand Racing Board, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, and the New Zealand Post Group.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000524\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EI want to thank the Officers of Parliament Committee for their work in selecting the new Ombudsman. Mr Allen\u2019s nomination was supported by all parties across the House, and I wish him all the best for his term as Ombudsman.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000525\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022859e13f9-33bb-41bb-b2f0-d848eaf25407\u0022\u003EIt is my personal pleasure to make these opening remarks about his appointment. As I\u2019ve said, it\u2019s a very important role, and it\u2019s good that we have a person of high calibre to take this role. I fully endorse it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u0022aebae191f3d34ad09946697ad349200e\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000526\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022aebae191f3d34ad09946697ad349200e\u0022\u003EGREG O\u2019CONNOR (Labour\u2014\u014Ch\u0101riu):\u003C/span\u003E I rise to express the Labour Party\u2019s support for the motion to appoint John Allen to this position. I\u2019ve been fortunate to be part of the Officers of Parliament Committee, led ably by yourself, Mr Speaker, which made this recommendation. I have to say, the quality of the applicants for the position was extremely high, and the successful applicant was always going to have to display outstanding qualities to distinguish themselves from this group. I thank those who took the time to prepare and subject themselves to the selection process; however, the cross-party committee, which made this recommendation, worked diligently and collegially in coming up with this recommendation, and I commend my fellow committee members.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000527\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003EI\u2019ll now turn to the recommended appointee, John Allen. Mr Allen\u2019s strong public service will serve him well for the role, having been the chancellor of Te Herenga Waka Victoria University of Wellington, the chief executive of WellingtonNZ, NZ Post, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, and the New Zealand Racing Board. This wide range of positions has not only exposed Mr Allen to contact with organisations which are an important part of the infrastructure of New Zealand locally and internationally but it also means he has a range of contacts at many levels of New Zealand society, something that will be an asset in this position.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000528\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003EThe Ombudsman\u2019s role is an essential one in reassuring New Zealanders that their concerns around the operation of the Public Service can be dealt with from outside that same service. This independence is assured by the fact that the office reports directly to Parliament and not to the Public Service. The outgoing Ombudsman, Peter Boshier, has done a very good job of raising the profile and scope of the office, and, on behalf of the Labour Party, I am confident Mr Allen will consolidate and enhance this position. I wish to congratulate Mr Boshier for his service and we wish him well.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000529\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003EIn an era when information on individuals is increasingly available on social media platforms, again it is essential that private citizens have a champion to protect their interests both in obtaining information and preventing abuse of the same, and the Ombudsman\u2019s office is that champion. I\u2019m again happy to commend Mr Allen to this position. I commend John Allen to the position of Ombudsman.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022 data-id=\u0022c104f56bc29c4c088f2d2c2aff41bb25\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000530\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c104f56bc29c4c088f2d2c2aff41bb25\u0022\u003ERICARDO MEN\u00C9NDEZ MARCH (Green):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you so much, Mr Speaker. On behalf of the Green Party, I would like to congratulate John Allen on his appointment to the role of Chief Ombudsman. Nau mai, haere mai. The Ombudsman is an Officer of Parliament independent of Government; likewise, the office staff are not public servants. I should note that the word \u201Combudsman\u201D in Swedish actually means grievance person. The role of the Ombudsmen in the legislation under which they operate, the Official Information Act, is critical in providing a route to follow when people feel aggrieved by a response from Government agencies.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000531\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002219ed20db-5d6c-4464-9327-6cdd072bb4fe\u0022\u003ETransparency is important in a free and democratic society. The Ombudsman website has incredibly good, detailed information for members of the public to help understand why they should be aware of the role and how they can interact alongside that. The role of the ombudsman was really well exemplified by the outgoing Chief Ombudsman, Judge Peter Boshier. We thank him for his outstanding work in the role, for being a champion for transparency and for the rights of our communities when it comes to holding Government to account. We look forward to working with John Allen and wish him all the best in this new role.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022a910e826-1964-4e6b-bdb6-958820a11514\u0022 data-id=\u00226f25bb3e05ba4639854450b7b70acc5c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000532\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a910e826-1964-4e6b-bdb6-958820a11514\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00226f25bb3e05ba4639854450b7b70acc5c\u0022\u003EJAMIE ARBUCKLE (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you. I rise on behalf of New Zealand First to support the new appointee, John Allen, to the Chief Ombudsman\u2019s position. I was one of the Officers of Parliament Committee that was part of the decision making for this over the past year. As the Labour Party member has said, that process was a very robust process, and it was something that I really enjoyed being a part of. The appointee, Mr Allen, has had a long career in the public sector, in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, the Racing Board, and New Zealand Post. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000533\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a910e826-1964-4e6b-bdb6-958820a11514\u0022\u003EWhat I did want to talk about was the office and say that it is actually independent, and it\u2019s something that we must have a lot of trust in. There is a high level of confidence that we need in the Ombudsman\u2019s office, so the leader or the chief of that office needs to be someone of the highest skills and someone whom people have a high level of trust in. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000534\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a910e826-1964-4e6b-bdb6-958820a11514\u0022\u003EThe Office of the Ombudsman is something that we look to for fairness for all New Zealanders. As we know, it looks into complaints and makes various investigations, and it reports on a lot of different avenues of New Zealand society. Its function is something that\u2019s very, very important. It was formed in 1962, but we also learnt through the process that the complexity of the office has changed a lot over the years, and the amount of cases that it deals with has very much grown. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000535\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022a910e826-1964-4e6b-bdb6-958820a11514\u0022\u003EI wish Mr Allen all the luck in his new role, and New Zealand First throws our support behind him. We also thank the outgoing Chief Ombudsman, Peter Boshier, for his duty and for how he has dealt with that office over a number of years and made it into something that I think most New Zealanders are very much proud of. Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002227600399-0a88-4371-a784-b5a7bc7afc37\u0022 data-id=\u002225a2b19d55764effbfac697210667842\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000536\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227600399-0a88-4371-a784-b5a7bc7afc37\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002225a2b19d55764effbfac697210667842\u0022\u003EMARIAMENO KAPA-KINGI (Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori\u2014Te Tai Tokerau):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe, Mr Speaker. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou e te Whare. I\u2019m just going to take a slightly different angle to this speech, particularly because\u2014absolutely to acknowledge John coming into the role. But what I think can platform somebody into a new role is when what they\u2019ve left behind is in good nick. My view would be, after being part of the appointment group, that is most certainly shown in the process, and I want to make a point of that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000537\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227600399-0a88-4371-a784-b5a7bc7afc37\u0022\u003EI want to make a point of the fact that Peter Boshier, in his whole approach to the Ombudsman role and his office, he did two things\u2014he did a bunch of stuff, but two of the things he did really well, I think. He took the office to the people. He expanded the capacity in that team. He grew the team and he grew the capability in that team. It needed that at the time, just so we know. He did that very, very well, so that you\u2019ve got a sizeable team there of about 240 people. That\u2019s a lot of capability to grow and then to be able to serve our whole nation, so I want to mention that.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000538\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227600399-0a88-4371-a784-b5a7bc7afc37\u0022\u003EThe other thing that he did remarkably well in my view\u2014particularly in M\u0101ori communities, he took his office out, he took his team out, he sat with wh\u0101nau. He came all the way to Te Kao. Nobody comes to Te Kao. There\u2019s only 10 people that live there\u2014no, there\u2019s a few more. But he brought him and his office out, particularly with a focus on engaging with tangata whenua, and it was noticed, certainly, when I first met him back when he was Judge Boshier and then, of course, as the Ombudsman in his role.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000539\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227600399-0a88-4371-a784-b5a7bc7afc37\u0022\u003EI think what he\u2019s been able to do is leave a strong setting for John. So in the process of the interviews and then appointing John, what I think John\u2019s going to find in it is that he\u2019s got a strong platform to do his work. You\u2019ll see already his history in the public sector, so he\u2019s ready to go. In my view, I think he\u2019ll pick up those particular aspects of the role that Peter Boshier was able to set up and actually accelerate and elevate the work, because it is such integral and critical work.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000540\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002227600399-0a88-4371-a784-b5a7bc7afc37\u0022\u003EI just want to make those remarks. I congratulate John amongst all the people that were interviewed. I\u2019m glad of the appointment. I think it\u2019ll do well, and I commend this idea and this result. Thank you, Mr Speaker.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022 data-id=\u0022809992947e59467b8da8a4faadaec23c\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000541\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022809992947e59467b8da8a4faadaec23c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: Most appropriate comments. Before I put the question, I\u2019d like to add my congratulations to John Allen and join in the other compliments that have been offered to retiring Ombudsman Peter Boshier. Time will give us an opportunity to better reflect on and recognise that service.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000542\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003ECan I also congratulate the members of the Officers of Parliament Committee. Often there\u2019s a lot of criticism of the way Parliament works, but the process that was involved there, involving all parties across the Parliament, was, I think, quite exemplary and recognises that all members of this House appreciate the importance of an open democracy and, therefore, the role of the Ombudsman. With that, the question is that the motion be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000543\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003EMotion agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n    \u003Cdiv class=\u0022HpsHansard\u0022\u003E\n      \u003Cp\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsProceedingHeading\u0022\u003EBills\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000544\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubjectHeading\u0022 id=\u00225593933bc0404c6aa275726070b916e9\u0022\u003EM\u0101ori Purposes Bill\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000545\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsSubproceedingHeading\u0022 id=\u00229045fdd4dff945c6a68345dcdef4299a\u0022\u003EFirst Reading\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022 data-id=\u0022e859b62cc4a243e9bc6417d2fbae44b5\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000546\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e859b62cc4a243e9bc6417d2fbae44b5\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA (Minister for M\u0101ori Development):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora t\u0101tau e noho nei i t\u014D t\u0101tau Whare. [Good health to us all sitting in our House.] I present a legislative statement on the M\u0101ori Purposes Bill.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000547\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022e6b4dc55-3561-49a8-a871-ae005354ef90\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b4f9e0b7086943b795e82f8cd101ce3c\u0022\u003ESPEAKER\u003C/span\u003E: That legislative statement is published under the authority of the House and can be found on the Parliament website.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000548\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsBy\u0022 id=\u0022b7fafd719f5e44ef85415b9684a53471\u0022\u003EHon TAMA POTAKA\u003C/span\u003E: I move, That the M\u0101ori Purposes Bill be now read a first time. I nominate the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee to consider the M\u0101ori Purposes Bill. At the appropriate time, I intend to move that the bill be reported to the House by 30 July 2025.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000549\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThis bill proposes a suite of minor, technical, and non-controversial amendments to M\u0101ori affairs legislation to provide entities with greater autonomy and decision-making power. Though the amendments on the bill are minor and technical in nature, they will have a significant impact on M\u0101ori entities by removing red tape, administrative burdens, and modernising the enabling legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000550\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EModernising legislation aligns with the Government\u2019s aims of delivering better public services by meeting good Government responsibilities\u2014K\u0101wanatanga responsibilities. This bill will ease administrative burdens by removing unnecessary legislative restrictions, lowering both compliance and administrative costs. It also supports M\u0101ori economic development, as lowering compliance costs and reducing the resources needed to meet legislative requirements will allow entities to focus on growth and innovation, which can contribute to a stronger economy.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000551\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe bill is being developed in consultation with M\u0101ori entities across the motu, their input instrumental in ensuring the legislation will better meet the needs of M\u0101ori communities both now and into the future. It reflects the evolving aspirations of M\u0101ori and ensures that the Crown continues to honour its commitments. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000552\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe bill contains provisions that update and streamline a range of existing statutes. It proposes amendments to eight Acts and five regulations, as well as the repeal of three M\u0101ori Purposes Acts.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000553\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EFirst, the bill amends the Maori Community Development Act 1962\u2014very well known\u2014which established the New Zealand M\u0101ori Council, M\u0101ori Wardens, and community officers. The amendments to this Act and the associated Maori Community Development Regulations will allow M\u0101ori associations to hold meetings electronically and appoint co-chairpersons, which is what many of our entities like to do, as well as giving them greater choice and flexibility in how they manage their affairs.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000554\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ESecond, the bill amends the Maori Purposes Fund Act 1934\u201335 and the Maori Purposes Fund Regulations 1937\u2014very old; nearly 100 years old. The Act established the Maori Purposes Fund, which provides grants and loans for a range of activities for the benefit of M\u0101ori. These include the promotion of health, education, arts and crafts, social and economic welfare, and, of course, the preservation of te reo M\u0101ori. Modernising the Act will provide better mechanisms for administering the funds. The amendments will allow electronic meetings, something of a new age; remove the requirement for resolutions to be signed by letter or telegram; and enable the chairperson to call special meetings\u2014technical amendments that you\u2019d expect to enable these hui to go a bit more efficiently. The bill also contains an amendment to modernise the requirements for presenting the annual report and associated documents to this House. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000555\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThird, the bill amends the Maori Soldiers Trust Act 1957, which was established for the benefit of M\u0101ori First World War veterans, and a scholarship fund to commemorate the services of the late T\u0101 Apirana Ngata for M\u0101ori. Modernising the Act will allow the trust to operate in a modern day context and better serve the descendants of M\u0101ori soldiers. Amendments to the Act will modernise the appointment, removal, and resignation of this committee, an appointment procedure for committee members, modernise meeting provisions to allow for electronic meetings, and modernise the procedure for the preparation and disclosure of the annual financial statements.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000556\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EFourth, the bill proposes changes to the Maori Trust Boards Act 1955, something I studied a lot many, many years ago. That Act made provision for trust boards to administer funds, land, and other resources for M\u0101ori communities. Modernising the Act through amendments will strengthen the purpose of the M\u0101ori trust boards by addressing outdated administrative processes and making it easier for trust boards to fulfil their purpose. Amendments will do this by allowing trust boards to advertise board nominations online\u2014new age; by changing requirements so that any newspaper advertisements only need to be for one day; providing for electronic meetings and, again, co-chairpersons; allowing the board to set the remuneration for the secretary; clarifying the process for filling extraordinary vacancies; and updating obsolete references.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000557\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe fifth set of amendments are to the M\u0101ori Trustee Act 1953. The amendments to this Act, and the regulations of 2009 associated with it, support the goals of the M\u0101ori Trustee by modernising legislation, removing administrative barriers, plus allowing the M\u0101ori Trustee to operate more efficiently, and I welcome the support of the M\u0101ori Trustee in this matter.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000558\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe amendments will reduce the administrative burden on the Trustee by adding a threshold for when the Trustee must report to account holders on interest on distributable income, and also change how distributable income from common fund investments is calculated. Finally, it will also modernise the language and terms in the Act.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000559\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EThe sixth set of amendments relate to Te Ture m\u014D Te Reo M\u0101ori 2016 / the M\u0101ori Language Act 2016. The Act established Te M\u0101t\u0101wai as an independent statutory entity to provide leadership on behalf of iwi and M\u0101ori, to lead the mahi around the Maihi M\u0101ori, and in their role as kaitiaki of the M\u0101ori language. The Act\u2019s purpose is to support the partnership approach to the revitalisation of te reo M\u0101ori. Amendments to this Act include raising awareness of revitalisation activity, and encouraging, supporting, empowering iwi and\u00A0M\u0101ori as learners and speakers of te reo as a purpose of Te M\u0101t\u0101wai, and creating regulatory powers so that the names and make-up of k\u0101hui can be changed easily\u2014can\u2019t wait to see some of my own iwi actually included on the schedule. The name of a court can be updated in the schedule of courts where te reo M\u0101ori may be spoken. Finally, an amendment provides for electronic meetings, and, again, co-chairperson arrangements. Consequential amendments have also been made to the M\u0101ori Television Service (Te Aratuku Whakaata Irirangi M\u0101ori) Act 2003.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000560\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EFinally, Te Ture Whenua Maori Act 1993\u2014a very important Act which reflects a long history to address challenges facing M\u0101ori land owners and the management and governance that goes with that. The Act as it currently stands aims to create practical solutions that enable M\u0101ori land owners to make decisions that best serve their aspirations while ensuring whenua M\u0101ori is protected. In addition to the amendments to the Act itself, the bill amends the Maori Incorporations Constitution Regulations 1994 and the Maori Reservations Regulations 1994. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000561\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ECollectively, the amendments in this bill will add to the history and the herstory of Te Ture Whenua Maori Act and benefit M\u0101ori landowners by allowing trusts, incorporations, and reservation trusts to meet electronically and have co-chairperson arrangements, modernise outdated terminology, and address technical issues such as allowing the M\u0101ori Land Court to exercise powers under the Property Law Act relating to easement and covenant provisions, with respect to M\u0101ori freehold land and any other land that the application is related to in the court. Finally, it will also give the M\u0101ori Land Court the same powers, as set out under Part\u00A02 of the Contract and Commercial Law Act, as other courts when considering contractual matters before it.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000562\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003EIn addition to the amendments I\u2019ve talked about today, the bill also repeals the M\u0101ori Purposes Acts of 1937, 1939, and 1945\u2014it\u2019s a tidy-up of the statute book as those Acts no longer have any operative provisions.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000563\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002232601127-a1e9-4ba0-b6af-99865a84a209\u0022\u003ETo summarise, the bill proposes a number of minor, technical, and non-controversial amendments, which, if enacted, will enable M\u0101ori entities to improve and operate more effectively and efficiently without the unnecessary red tape and administrative burden. While the amendments in this bill are minor and technical in nature, they will have a big impact on the ability of M\u0101ori organisations to get on to do the mahi and to exercise their responsibilities in the vein and in the realm of rangatiratanga. We have a duty to ensure legislation is current, fit for purpose, and addresses present and future needs. I\u2019m confident that the amendments in this bill will do just this, and I look forward to the support of other members of this House. With those final words, I commend the bill to the House. T\u0113n\u0101 t\u0101tou katoa.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u0022e03a4af027694440bfbe8815db845266\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000564\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e03a4af027694440bfbe8815db845266\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Greg O\u2019Connor)\u003C/span\u003E: The question is that the motion be agreed to.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022 data-id=\u0022c0e08b07d62f4381ac7df7c470f9e863\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000565\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022c0e08b07d62f4381ac7df7c470f9e863\u0022\u003EHon WILLIE JACKSON (Labour):\u003C/span\u003E Kia ora t\u0101tou. Kia ora, Mr Speaker. This is not a particularly controversial bill at all. It\u2019s something that, obviously, we should all be supporting so that we are able to get our communities up to scratch. This has been lagging for too long, and it\u2019s something that we should have probably dealt with too, so I commend the Minister for getting on with the business. It is really important that we get up to speed in some areas. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000566\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EI would ask the Minister to have a think\u2014I\u2019m happy to work with him on it\u2014and to have a look at the Maori Community Development Act 1962 and updating that in terms of the electronic areas and the chairperson arrangements. But the Maori Community Development Act of 1962 is an area that the Minister will know has been a little bit controversial in the last few years as we\u2019ve had different organisations\u2014the M\u0101ori wardens, the New Zealand M\u0101ori Council\u2014speaking about mandate and about who should be representing them. I\u2019d be happy to spend some time with the Minister to go over that and some of the k\u014Drero that we went through with the New Zealand M\u0101ori Council and with the M\u0101ori wardens. That\u2019s the thing with the Act: we\u2019re talking about an Act from 1962 being pertinent and relevant in 2025. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000567\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWhile we\u2019ve got some of the technical side set up and people should be able to now, as we all know, carry out their meetings and their business online, there are other areas, I think, that the Minister might want to get into with regard to mandates and who\u2019s representing whom. I\u2019m not an advocate for taking away the New Zealand M\u0101ori Council\u2019s right to represent M\u0101ori wardens, but that is something that needs to be traversed by the Minister\u2014we\u2019ve put a lot of time in there in terms of the Maori Community Development Act\u2014and really have a look at it and at whether it\u2019s absolutely pertinent and relevant in 2025. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000568\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EWe\u2019re glad too to see our Te Ture m\u014D Te Reo M\u0101ori / M\u0101ori Language Act updated, clarifying the purpose of Te M\u0101t\u0101wai. It\u2019s important that not just the co-chair arrangements and support for our te reo M\u0101ori revitalisation be addressed, but what must also be addressed is the Government\u2019s response to Te M\u0101t\u0101wai. When I was the Minister, we had regular meetings with our M\u0101ori organisations, and so it\u2019s good to clarify that. But we need to whakatinana this kaupapa. We need to strengthen it a bit more, so that on top of that we would like to see the Minister\u2019s commitment in terms of the funding for our reo M\u0101ori. It\u2019s good that we got this kaupapa up, but we need to get kaupapa up where we\u2019re seeing meaningful funding going into some of our really, really important initiatives. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000569\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EM\u0101ori Television is not on this. We\u2019ve got the Maori Soldiers Trust Act, the Maori Trust Boards Act, the M\u0101ori Trustee Act, and Te Ture m\u014D Te Reo M\u0101ori. Te Ture m\u014D Te Reo M\u0101ori is applicable in a general sense, particularly in terms of how we cover the reo in terms of M\u0101ori Television and in terms of M\u0101ori radio. We want to hear from the Minister what is his plan, what is his rautaki, and what is his strategy in terms of advancing funding and p\u016Btea for our iwi radio network and for our Whakaata M\u0101ori. It\u2019s not just about ticking a box and getting things going in a technical sense. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000570\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022f317ee7d-f040-44ec-8f2f-ad0a9f206d75\u0022\u003EGenerally, obviously, this is a kaupapa that we, as the Opposition, would always support because this is something that we would have done too if we were the Government. I commend the Minister for getting on with it and we support this bill going forward. Kia ora t\u0101tou. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022 data-id=\u0022271916c5c3eb44a88863fc66988df446\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000571\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022271916c5c3eb44a88863fc66988df446\u0022\u003EH\u016AHANA LYNDON (Green):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te P\u012Bka. E t\u016B ana ahau ki te tautoko i t\u0113nei pire m\u014D te R\u014Dp\u016B K\u0101k\u0101riki hoki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000572\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003E[Thank you, Mr Speaker. I stand to support this bill on behalf of the Green Party.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000573\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EOn behalf of the Green Party, I stand in tautoko alongside colleagues of the House for the M\u0101ori Purposes Bill, knowing that it\u2019s an omnibus piece of legislation that covers a range of legislation that has been, I guess, dated\u2014had limited the ability of organisations to do their business in these modern times. I think they were still faxing and required to post out their mail, some of the groups. But now, with the amendments that have been made, it will support all of our groups impacted here to be able to be stronger and better, now and into the future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000574\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EWhen I consider the Maori Community Development Act and the way that they can now have their hui electronically and also to have co-chair arrangements\u2014yay, awesome. Also the Maori Purposes Fund and the regulations around the purpose, but also the way that they can have hui and the models\u2014great, again.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000575\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EWe\u2019ve heard in the past some of the challenges of legislation that is not appropriate and has not moved with the times. This type of legislation\u2014just coming through quickly and making these amendments\u2014really, ultimately, will help the organisations.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000576\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002228503e94-a5c6-4364-92b7-dc1da041fc50\u0022\u003EWhether it be tidying up the use of te reo M\u0101ori in legislation, whether it\u2019s about enabling co-chair arrangements and the ability for organisations to have more flexibility in hosting meetings, being able to make decisions, and moving beyond telegraph and post, it\u2019s great to see we\u2019ve come to this point in time in 2025. On behalf of te R\u014Dp\u016B K\u0101k\u0101riki, I stand and we tautoko. Kia ora.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022 data-id=\u0022e42f2911e2f041669ecbdd9663151d74\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000577\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022e42f2911e2f041669ecbdd9663151d74\u0022\u003EJENNY MARCROFT (NZ First):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker. I rise on behalf of New Zealand First in support of the Ma\u014Dri Purposes Bill. As said by everyone so far who\u2019s contributed to this conversation we\u2019re having about the Ma\u014Dri Purposes Bill, put up by the Hon Tama Potaka, there was wide support for it, which is great to hear. It continues the theme of the day, really, which is great to be a part of.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000578\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EAs the Minister noted in his contribution, this M\u0101ori Purposes Bill will provide a suite of minor and technical amendments to remove some of the unnecessary administrative burden so that these organisations are able to focus on growth. And it\u2019s good to see that Labour and the Green Party will also be supporting the legislation.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000579\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EAn omnibus bill\u2014and the M\u0101ori Purposes Bill, in particular\u2014is all about tidying up amendments in legislation. Often they\u2019ve been characterised as a wash-up bill. In fact, previously the M\u0101ori Purposes Bill in previous iterations, in previous Parliaments, has been called the \u201Cthe boil-up bill\u201D. Everything gets chucked in the pot. And what a delight it is when it\u2019s time to sit down and have your kai, particularly if there\u2019s watercress. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000580\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EI\u2019d like to mention a few of the things in this bill just very briefly. In terms of New Zealand First, we\u2019ve consistently stood for policies that enhance equality, equity, fairness, and efficiency within New Zealand\u2019s legislative framework. We recognise the significance of M\u0101ori economic development and cultural revitalisation and the impact it has on the nation\u00A0as a whole. We believe also in practical solutions to improve governance, reduce administrative burdens, and ensure resources are utilised effectively for the benefit of all.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000581\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EWe support the bill because it\u2019s going to reinforce fairness and transparency by modernising the legislation that does, in fact, impact on M\u0101ori governance and economic opportunities. These amendments will promote autonomy and efficiency for the M\u0101ori organisations. Reducing that administrative burden and requirement\u2014bringing ourselves into the future, or at least 2025, by enabling electronic meetings and things. People do still have fax machines. It\u2019s actually unbelievable. Not many, but a few. But now having meetings electronically\u2014I know when I was part of my hap\u016B\u2019s governance team, meeting always in the north. A lot of travel to do that but to be able to do it by Zoom or other means made it so much easier to ensure people actually attend those meetings. And that\u2019s a good thing, really.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000582\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u0022676b0bc5-331b-4818-b261-ecf892d0bf23\u0022\u003EOn that, I am pleased to be supporting this bill, the M\u0101ori Purposes Bill. I commend it to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002262828428-6565-42b4-bd4d-fa3b12531f88\u0022 data-id=\u0022b91b56db7e5646bf892623ad7f1fb963\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000583\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002262828428-6565-42b4-bd4d-fa3b12531f88\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u0022b91b56db7e5646bf892623ad7f1fb963\u0022\u003ESIMON COURT (ACT):\u003C/span\u003E Thank you, Mr Speaker, The ACT Party commends this bill to the House. It\u2019s largely a technical bill, an omnibus bill for minor technical amendments to M\u0101ori affairs legislation. Modernising legislation, reducing administrative burdens, and increasing autonomy for M\u0101ori entities\u2014that\u2019s all in line with ACT values and with what this coalition Government supports. Absolutely commend it to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022 data-id=\u002258eb5628fb4045119ee6f09669ddf4a9\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000584\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u002258eb5628fb4045119ee6f09669ddf4a9\u0022\u003ET\u0100KUTA FERRIS (Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori\u2014Te Tai Tonga):\u003C/span\u003E T\u0113n\u0101 koe e te P\u012Bka. Otir\u0101 t\u0113n\u0101 r\u0101 t\u0101tau katoa. Kei te Whare t\u0113nei t\u016Bnga tuatahi \u014Dku hoki nei ki t\u0113nei Whare me \u014Dna whakaritenga, kawenga, e mihi tonu ana. Tika ana kia mihia te hunga k\u0101tahi an\u014D ka wehe ake nei i t\u014D r\u0101tau rironga i a te maunga o Taranaki. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000585\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022\u003EHoki rawa mai ki t\u0113nei pire m\u014D ng\u0101 mahi whakawhanake i ng\u0101 rawa o te iwi M\u0101ori. Ka tika r\u0101 m\u014D t\u014D t\u0101tau Whare, me kaua r\u0101 t\u0101tau e tuku i ng\u0101 ture kia k\u014Dhatu r\u0101 an\u014D k\u0101tahi whakatikahia ai. Kua roa te iwi M\u0101ori e whanga ana kia whakahouhia ng\u0101 ture e eke ai ng\u0101 whakaritenga o t\u0113n\u0101, o t\u0113n\u0101 o ng\u0101 huinga t\u014Dp\u016Btanga M\u0101ori, ng\u0101 kaporeihana M\u0101ori e eke ano ai r\u0101tau ki te karamatamatatanga o t\u0113nei mea te whakawhanake i ng\u0101 rawa, e mihi ana.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000586\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022\u003E[Greetings to us all here. To the House, this is my first stand in this House with its practices and responsibilities, so I acknowledge it. It is appropriate to acknowledge the people who have just now departed as they have regained their mountain, Taranaki.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000587\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022\u003EReturning to this bill about developing the asset base of the M\u0101ori people, it is appropriate for our House that we do not allow laws to become petrified before we update them. M\u0101ori people have been waiting some time for the laws to be updated so that the practices of each M\u0101ori incorporation can achieve the heights of development of the asset base, so I acknowledge this.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000588\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022\u003EMr Speaker, t\u0113n\u0101 koe. It\u2019s good to be back. I stand to take this call just to raise a couple of additional thoughts, not to reiterate things that have already been said. The bill is indeed a good step forward, but I would think that the House is a lot more advanced than just leaving bills to become so decrepit that we\u2019re making changes to allow things to be done online in this day and age. But, in essence, these things need to be done, and there are many significant M\u0101ori organisations that have obviously waited a long time for that to happen. That\u2019s good, but we also feel that it\u2019s a missed opportunity. It\u2019s a missed opportunity to open a broader discussion around the M\u0101ori development needs of some of the significant M\u0101ori organisations of the country who have obviously been stymied for a long time. M\u0101ori development is a key thing in the development of the whole country, so it should be something that\u2019s on the top of Tama Potaka\u2019s list.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000589\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022\u003EWe also note that many of the issues that M\u0101ori are raising and have raised are from within the development field, and many others like Te Tiriti compliance and the ability of M\u0101ori to develop M\u0101ori land unhindered are things that need to be brought to the table for discussion. These are all things that enhance everyone\u2019s lives and, indeed, the production and economy of the country as a whole.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000590\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022\u003EAlthough this discussion is open here in this omnibus-type fashion, we hope that this discussion is continued on and broadened out. Discussion on the needs, the supports, the inputs required, the resources, and the capability required to enhance the continued development of the M\u0101ori economy is something that bodes well for the future of all in Aotearoa. As we\u2019ve recently seen at the close of last year, it\u2019s $119 billion. I\u2019m sure a few tweaks to some legislation in this House would help unleash that to reach new heights.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000591\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022\u003EWe invite that discussion. We invite that discussion and we hope that the Minister continues his good work, keeps these regulations and legislative conditions up to speed with where the modern world is operating at, and that the discussion around the development of the M\u0101ori society, economy\u2014the lot of it\u2014becomes a focus for the Government leading into this year.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000592\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022\u003EN\u014D reira e tautoko ake nei Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori i t\u0113nei o ng\u0101 pire, tuku nei ki te Whare. Kia ora t\u0101tau.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000593\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002287c850cf-18f6-4be0-935a-0e24e0a352ae\u0022\u003E[Therefore, Te P\u0101ti M\u0101ori supports this bill and commends it to the House. Greetings to us all.]\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022 data-id=\u00224853dd2eb7e74730b2070930a39f061f\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000594\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00224853dd2eb7e74730b2070930a39f061f\u0022\u003EDAVID MacLEOD (National\u2014New Plymouth):\u003C/span\u003E Mark this day. I actually agree with the member T\u0101kuta Ferris. I think, indeed, what he talks about with regards to maximising the potential of M\u0101ori land, the M\u0101ori economy, all that sort of stuff\u2014absolutely. I can\u2019t argue with that. Clearly, we\u2019ve got some other pressing issues as well but, hopefully, that is something that the Government can turn its mind to in the short-term future.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000595\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EThis M\u0101ori Purposes Bill has been well traversed. The Minister gave a very good opening of what this bill actually does and the many Acts that it affects, and basically the modernising of how M\u0101ori entities can get on with their business makes absolute sense. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000596\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EI do note the numerous former M\u0101ori Purposes Acts of 1939, 1945, and 1973 are also going to be repealed as a result of this, because they no longer have any operative provisions in them. But this makes sense. \u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000597\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002231e14629-7251-4b68-9f90-22b71db0b1c1\u0022\u003EI\u2019m very pleased for it to be coming to a committee that I\u2019ve been newly elected to the chair of, the M\u0101ori Affairs Committee. We will look forward to opening up for submissions as soon as we can and allowing people to provide their thoughts and support, or even if they\u00A0feel that there is some strengthening of what this bill actually has to do, as well. With that, I commend this bill to the House.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\u003Ca name=\u0022member\u0022 data-type=\u0022article\u0022 data-memberid=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022 data-id=\u00223dde2d9513924dbfa64bb6794de02c56\u0022\u003E\u003C/a\u003E\u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000598\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsByToc\u0022 id=\u00223dde2d9513924dbfa64bb6794de02c56\u0022\u003EASSISTANT SPEAKER (Greg O\u2019Connor)\u003C/span\u003E: This debate is interrupted and set down for resumption next sitting day. The House stands adjourned until 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 11\u00A0February. Have a good weekend, everyone.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000599\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003EDebate interrupted.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n      \u003Cp id=\u0022id20250130b04fd18b62a74b039f4569e30dcef9ba000600\u0022\u003E\u003Cspan class=\u0022HpsNormal\u0022 id=\u002202e74c40-9529-4e15-adc2-c032eadc2205\u0022\u003EThe House adjourned at 5.56 p.m.\u003C/span\u003E\u003C/p\u003E\n    \u003C/div\u003E\n  \u003C/body\u003E\n\u003C/html\u003E"